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teleskiguy  May 2, 2019 • 9:12:03pm

I try not to repeat posts at LGF. I make an exception for this, the third time I’ve posted it today.

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2019 • 9:14:47pm

Meanwhile… The east coast of India is going through a catastrophe.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 2, 2019 • 9:23:06pm

From the last thread:

re: #120 EPR-radar

I have a great deal of sympathy for people who are disappointed by wanting things most people get that they will never have. There’s lots of ways that can happen, and the details are usually boring.

That sympathy ends the moment this disappointment is weaponized into all-consuming resentment.

That reminds me of Megan Phelps-Roper, who left the Westboro Baptist Church.

Her case is a bit different, since she was raised in their hatred from the day she was born. She now holds talks on extremist religious views. Her Ted talk is quite interesting; it details some of the horrid things she did both as a child and an adult. As an adult, she ran the church’s social media accounts, where she spread Westboro’s hatred on-line to Twitter and Facebook.

She notes that people started engaging with her to find out how she thought and why she thought like that, and then got her to start thinking herself why she thought that way.

It eventually resulted in her leaving, which caused her to be immediately disowned by her family. She sunk into poverty with no job skills or any real understanding of how the secular world actually works.

It took her a long time to get on her own feet.

(15:17)

I grew up in the Westboro Baptist Church. Here’s why I left | Megan Phelps-Roper

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 9:27:33pm

‘…Just as striking as Trump’s own crude efforts to humiliate, however, are the numerous examples of those who seem to abase or degrade themselves in their efforts to curry favor with the President. Such behavior, of course, has long been a bipartisan feature of life in Washington, where access to power can do bad things to the character of those who seek it. The Trump Presidency has produced more than its share of examples, however, given that getting and staying in this President’s good graces appears to require an extra helping of public obsequiousness, grovelling, flip-floppery, and over-the-top televised pronouncements.

This unseemly aspect of the Trump era was on full display at Wednesday’s Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, where both the committee chairman, Senator Lindsey Graham, of South Carolina, and Attorney General Barr went out of their way to appeal to the President, at the expense of their own credibility. Graham, who ran against Trump, in 2016, and called the future President a “kook” who was “unfit” to hold the office, opened the hearing by reading aloud text messages exchanged, in 2016, between two F.B.I. agents, who expressed the same fears about Trump that Graham had at the time. Graham then announced that he had not actually read the whole Mueller report, the contents of which he proceeded to dismiss.”

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Dave In Austin  May 2, 2019 • 9:28:20pm
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teleskiguy  May 2, 2019 • 9:34:23pm
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Belafon  May 2, 2019 • 9:38:59pm

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹

So, do we waste energy hating on her like the other woman, or does the other woman need to do TED talks before we ignore her?

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 2, 2019 • 9:41:43pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 2, 2019 • 9:48:01pm

re: #5 Dave In Austin

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That’s fucking glorious!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 2, 2019 • 9:48:02pm

A couple of us here were complaining about the lack of basic tech skills among the Olds. Here’s another example, from today in the office.

Subject: 61-year-old white male
Problem: Inability to print contents of email (sent by subject to himself)
Background: Subject needs to prepare end-of-term grade reports, which are Excel spreadsheets. Having marked student papers at home, subject recorded students’ grades in separate emails which he sent to himself to open and print out in the office. Files (plain text) looked like this:
Class 1 Class 2
Quiz 1 Quiz 1
Sally 23 Jacob 17
Bill 21 Sunshine 18
etc.
NOTE: Subject has a USB stick issued to him by our employer.
Treatment: Subject asked for help in printing out contents of email. Did not know how to copy and paste into a Word document for printing. Showed him shortcuts CTRL-A, CTRL-C, CTRL-V into Word document. On his own, subject did CTRL-V into a *new* email document. Had to point out necessity of copying into a separate Word document. At this point, subject was able to complete desired process.

Or so I assume, since I left for lunch about this time.

Subject also has been shown how to scan a document on the office copier-printer to save on his USB several times, but I had to do it for him *again* today.

Subject is leaving to teach at another college, so we’ll be spared his particular kind of techno-helplessness.

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jaunte  May 2, 2019 • 9:51:40pm

re: #10 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

As an old, I have to say I’ve mastered copy-paste-print, but I remain annoyed at my Photoshop CC rearrangement of basic commands like constrain proportions, and why is it hiding my selection handles?

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William Lewis  May 2, 2019 • 9:55:54pm

re: #10 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

A couple of us here were complaining about the lack of basic tech skills among the Olds. Here’s another example, from today in the office.

Subject: 61-year-old white male
Problem: Inability to print contents of email (sent by subject to himself)
Background: Subject needs to prepare end-of-term grade reports, which are Excel spreadsheets. Having marked student papers at home, subject recorded students’ grades in separate emails which he sent to himself to open and print out in the office. Files (plain text) looked like this:
Class 1 Class 2
Quiz 1 Quiz 1
Sally 23 Jacob 17
Bill 21 Sunshine 18
etc.
NOTE: Subject has a USB stick issued to him by our employer.
Treatment: Subject asked for help in printing out contents of email. Did not know how to copy and paste into a Word document for printing. Showed him shortcuts CTRL-A, CTRL-C, CTRL-V into Word document. On his own, subject did CTRL-V into a *new* email document. Had to point out necessity of copying into a separate Word document. At this point, subject was able to complete desired process.

Or so I assume, since I left for lunch about this time.

Subject also has been shown how to scan a document on the office copier-printer to save on his USB several times, but I had to do it for him *again* today.

Subject is leaving to teach at another college, so we’ll be spared his particular kind of techno-helplessness.

When we switched from X Terminals hooked to a Data General Unix server to Windows XP I expected some retraining would be necessary. However, one day shortly after we put the PC’s on the desks (first week IIRC) in place of the sadly missed X-Terms, I had a call from the corporate council’s office. He couldn’t get his floppy out of the computer or read it to print out the pleading he needed like the proverbial hour ago. I go into his office to discover he’d, somehow and I am not sure how to this day, put the 3.5” floppy into the tray of the CDROM drive and got it to close. I spent the next 30~45 minutes tearing the CDROM drive apart to rescue the floppy with the only copy of this legal document on it. I was successful in the end and this remains my most insane moment of not understanding tech that I’ve run into.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 2, 2019 • 9:56:02pm

re: #7 Belafon

So, do we waste energy hating on her like the other woman, or does the other woman need to do TED talks before we ignore her?

Megan Phelps-Roper went a long time before she did a TED talk.

As for the other woman from Deadbart and Daily Caller, after things calm down some for her we’ll have to see what happens. “Trust but verify” (thanks, Reagan) might apply.

Ms. Phelps-Roper was disowned by her family, but they didn’t threaten her safety. As big a collection of douchecanoes Westboro is, as far as I’m aware they have never engaged in threats (other than the usual Christian threat of hell) or violence.

There is also the addition Ms. Phelps-Roper didn’t choose to be in that family or church. She notes it was people reaching out to her on-line that caused her to start questioning her positions because they’d presented ideas she’d never heard before.

As others have noted here, social media is a two-edged sword; it can be used to radicalise people, and it can be used to deprogram them (as in the case of Ms. Phelps-Roper, or for that matter, Don Black’s son).

Time will tell about the other woman whether she is really seeking to change her ways or if she’s just biding her time between gigs.

What I took away from that article about her was not so much about her alleged change-of-heart, but how right-wing sites can suck people in. If she is sincere, she can provide a valuable insight into such places and what to do to counter them.

We’ll have to wait and see.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 2, 2019 • 9:59:29pm

re: #11 jaunte

As an old, I have to say I’ve mastered copy-paste-print, but I remain annoyed at my Photoshop CC rearrangement of basic commands like constrain proportions, and why is it hiding my selection handles?

I’m happy I managed to (mostly) master Outlook, Publisher, Word, and Paint.

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DodgerFan1988  May 2, 2019 • 9:59:36pm

No, no, no.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 2, 2019 • 10:05:02pm

re: #15 DodgerFan1988

Pay Attention To Me!!!2!!!1£1!!1one!!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 2, 2019 • 10:11:06pm

re: #15 DodgerFan1988

Exhibit #N>1,000,000 of someone with an inflated sense of self-importance.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 2, 2019 • 10:11:46pm
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Dave In Austin  May 2, 2019 • 10:11:51pm
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Dave In Austin  May 2, 2019 • 10:18:16pm
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ckkatz  May 2, 2019 • 10:20:58pm

From last thread:

re: #113 Dr. Matt

IANAL, but, when I read that statement, I am hearing:

1) That the information that they gathered was from a Foreign Intelligence investigation rather than a Criminal investigation.

As I understand it, the purpose, rules, handling and expectations of the quality of the information associated with a Foreign Intelligence investigation are very different. And are not expected to meet the same standards as those used in a criminal investigation.

And

2) That if a criminal investigation were to occur, it is likely to uncover chargeable offenses, either in a criminal court or in an impeachment trial.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 2, 2019 • 10:28:10pm

Don’t know, kid. Nobody’s ever lived that long.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 2, 2019 • 10:28:15pm

re: #19 Dave In Austin

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Forget it Dave, It’s 19th Century Fox!

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Dave In Austin  May 2, 2019 • 10:28:49pm

Susan Sarandon just put me in Twitter lockout for 7 days

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TedStriker  May 2, 2019 • 10:29:06pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Don’t know, kid. Nobody’s ever lived that long.

No one gets out of life alive.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 2, 2019 • 10:32:51pm

re: #24 Dave In Austin

Susan Sarandon just put me in Twitter lockout for 7 days

She’s in the same club as Ann Coulter, Talky Tami From The Twilight Zone and The Gun Girl.

Post a snarky tweet and you are on lockout after you delete your tweet.

I truly despise all of those CENSORED.

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2019 • 10:56:53pm

I’m seeing all kinds of praise for Buzzfeed’s essay about American nazi Katie McHugh.

Makes me sick. Katie is a fuck.

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2019 • 11:01:50pm

re: #27 teleskiguy

I’m seeing all kinds of praise for Buzzfeed’s essay about American nazi Katie McHugh.

Makes me sick. Katie is a fuck.

And yes, I know that the piece is a journalistic endeavor to figure out what’s going on with these nazis. And the Buzzfeed essay is well written, well researched.

FUCK THAT! A Buzzfeed writer obtained racist fuckhole Katie as a source, and exposed the alt-right little by little in her piece she wrote about fuckin’ racist fuckhole Katie.

Someone’s being played, and Buzzfeed has done an incredible job of promoting white supremacy by writing a 10,000 word essay about American nazi Katie McHugh.

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goddamnedfrank  May 2, 2019 • 11:07:51pm

Best advice I’ve heard in a minute.

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teleskiguy  May 2, 2019 • 11:10:16pm

re: #29 goddamnedfrank

This is absolute wisdom.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 2, 2019 • 11:17:17pm

I found somebody who vlogged their acid trip//hike in the hills. I’m so glad there was no Internet and no video of my LSD years.

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Ace-o-aces  May 2, 2019 • 11:41:11pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2019 • 11:44:04pm
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Teukka  May 2, 2019 • 11:49:49pm

re: #19 Dave In Austin

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If you don’t look carefully, it almost looks like one of the swords go through her. I hope a nutbar doesn’t get stochastically triggered by this…

What’s wrong with these people?

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Chrysicat  May 2, 2019 • 11:50:11pm

Hidden because of health whinging:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2019 • 12:02:37am

SpaceX abort.
Problem with the boat, not the rocket.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2019 • 12:10:27am

re: #36 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

SpaceX abort.
Problem with the boat, not the rocket.

Next attempt, tomorrow morning 02:48 am EDT

Also, Rocket Lab shooting a wee Electron rocket from New Zealand at 2:am EDT tomorrow

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goddamnedfrank  May 3, 2019 • 12:29:20am
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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 3, 2019 • 12:33:51am
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goddamnedfrank  May 3, 2019 • 12:37:51am

Rep Underwood is roommates with my Rep, Katie Hill, which technically makes me vicariously very proud.

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Chrysicat  May 3, 2019 • 12:46:15am
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goddamnedfrank  May 3, 2019 • 1:00:51am

As someone who has lost 30 lbs in approximately the last 4 months by walking a shit ton of miles per day on a keto diet this shit rings so fucking true.

My major motivation was test results that indicated I was sliding into pre-diabetes, and if I’m being honest I’m going to keep this going for another 40 lbs if I can. I’ve gone from a BMI of “obese” to “overweight” and would really like to dip into normal again, but the absolute last goddamned thing I’m gonna do is fast.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 3, 2019 • 1:05:29am

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

That kind of diagnosis got my brother-in-law and my sister-in-law off their butts and into daily walks. Both were overweight and he was diagnosed as pre-diabetic. They also radically changed their eating habits. While not exactly slender now, both successfully lost enough weight to be considered healthier and non-pre-diabetic.

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Patricia Kayden  May 3, 2019 • 1:09:15am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 3, 2019 • 1:09:18am

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

Also, Jack Dorsey is an over-privileged, egotistical asshole who ignores the fact that millions of people around the world “fast” because they regularly don’t have any food to eat. Rather than starving his skinny-ass self, he might consider alleviating food shortages with his considerable wealth.

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Patricia Kayden  May 3, 2019 • 1:17:39am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 3, 2019 • 1:21:41am

re: #46 Patricia Kayden

Patently illegal, IMO as a non-lawyer. It’s giving the duties of trained immigration officials and lawyers to border cops, similar to allowing beat cops decide whether a kid getting caught shoplifting should be shot and killed as he runs away.

Oh, wait …

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Patricia Kayden  May 3, 2019 • 1:24:52am

re: #47 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Trump has shown over and over again that he does not respect due process, the rule of law or precedent. He’s a fascist.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 3, 2019 • 1:32:45am

Let me guess, “NO!” is their answer.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 3, 2019 • 1:32:51am

re: #48 Patricia Kayden

Trump has shown over and over again that he does not respect due process, the rule of law or precedent. He’s a fascist.

Probably one major reason why he doesn’t want to fill so many jobs in the executive branch, but seems very keen on packing the courts with conservative judges. He’s also shown a disinclination to consider Congress as a co-equal branch of government.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 1:33:08am

re: #46 Patricia Kayden

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That is insane.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 3, 2019 • 1:37:01am

Top people.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 3, 2019 • 1:40:26am

re: #52 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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Top people.

Only the best. Drain the swamp.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 1:43:57am

Mr. Jim Wright (Stonekettle) has added to his “veteran worship” thread, now up to thirty tweets. I suspect it’s going to be turned into an article on his blog.

When I went to the hospital yesterday for my appointment with the Atomic Tit-Smasher 3000, I got a pleasant surprise.

They had all my paperwork at the breast health clinic. Medical records and payment information from the Veterans Administration. They needed my military retired ID card for verification. They needed my driver’s license (emblazoned with VETERAN in all capital letters) so if the VA stiffs them on the bill they can come after me for the money (I’m pretty sure that won’t happen).

What absolutely no one in the clinics said to me? “Thank you for your service.” It was wonderful. I hate that as much as Stonekettle does (but he has a giant platform which attracts wingnuts like bears to honey).

And he’s right about that: You have to “veteran” the right way or conservatives get upset with you.

One person in the thread told him if he didn’t want people commenting like that he should grow out his hair so it isn’t in a military haircut. He responded “You should smile more.”

Growing out you hair won’t do it either (mine is). It gets comments which he categorised as “you’re not doing veteran right.” Liberal? The same.

I encourage reading the thread and its comments.

On the other hand, I thanked the doctors and nurses for their service to me yesterday afternoon. That had a much more immediate effect on my life than anything I did in the Navy for them.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 1:59:08am
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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 3, 2019 • 2:07:13am

Wow, Kaiser took my blood today at 3 PM and the results are already online. I’m probably going to get a note from the doctor about my glucose and cholesterol. It’s what they put in food to make it taste good!

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 2:13:40am

re: #56 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

Wow, Kaiser took my blood today at 3 PM and the results are already online. I’m probably going to get a note from the doctor about my glucose and cholesterol. It’s what they put in food to make it taste good!

I hope that works out okay for you.

It’s a shame that all the foods which are really good are the ones which conspire to kill us. /s

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 2:28:03am

One hopeful sign on my drive to the hospital yesterday.

Along US-26 between Bridgeport and Scottsbluff there are several billboards posted by ranchers and farmers supporting Donald Trump. Ten or fifteen of them. All of them handmade and on their private property behind their barbed wire or electric fences.

Well, past tense. All of them are gone. Every single one.

I think maybe some of the folks around here are figuring out just how badly they got corkscrewed.

If that translates into votes for the Democratic candidate in the next election, great. If they decide not to vote, well, not as great, but those still aren’t votes for Trump.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 3, 2019 • 2:33:46am

HEH

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 3, 2019 • 3:15:57am

re: #59 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

As I recall, Rage Furby did the same thing in re: Gawker. I don’t recall now if it was complaint in federal court, where he had a lawyer, or the copycat complaint in state court, where he didn’t.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 3:35:57am

re: #59 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

HEH

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It might not have been utter incompetency of his lawyer.

Rep. Nunes threats to the newspaper and parody Twitter accounts might have been threats designed to silence opposition (and his bluff was called).

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 3:38:49am

re: #60 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

As I recall, Rage Furby did the same thing in re: Gawker. I don’t recall now if it was complaint in federal court, where he had a lawyer, or the copycat complaint in state court, where he didn’t.

He was suing Twitter, specifically after they banned him over calls to “take out” the Black Lives Matter activist in Louisiana. California tossed his suit and hit him with an anti-SLAPP judgement.

thehill.com

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Teukka  May 3, 2019 • 3:39:57am

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹

It might not have been utter incompetency of his lawyer.

Rep. Nunes threats to the newspaper and parody Twitter accounts might have been threats designed to silence opposition (and his bluff was called).

Isn’t that in violation of various SLAPP laws?

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Teukka  May 3, 2019 • 3:45:08am

Comic and on-topic satiric relief:

Facebook Post

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Chrysicat  May 3, 2019 • 4:09:33am
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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 4:13:46am

re: #63 Teukka

Isn’t that in violation of various SLAPP laws?

An anti-SLAPP law only applies in instances where you actually file a lawsuit. Threats to file a lawsuit don’t really apply.

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Chrysicat  May 3, 2019 • 4:13:48am

Also, don’t mind me; I’m just salty that yesterday I learned something I should have known for months—namely, that the Trump Admin is going to rewrite rules so that my medical policy may well be cancelled for “insurance fraud” (I have an “F” on my driver’s license and on my insurance policy, but retain ‘outdoor plumbing’ as I was never able to afford SRS before my mental-health issues made me unemployable. I don’t know how the revocation of gender-identity protection is going to affect my relationship with BrightHealth and I may have to call tomorrow and find out!)

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 4:14:04am

LOL

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Decatur Deb  May 3, 2019 • 4:25:06am

re: #67 Chrysicat

Your comment suggests that some level of surgical reworking would preclude the “fraud”. What standard sets the legal/insurance definitions? Is it national, local, or a medical consensus?

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 4:30:15am

re: #69 Decatur Deb

Your comment suggests that some level of surgical reworking would preclude the “fraud”. What standard sets the legal/insurance definitions? Is it national, local, or a medical consensus?

Most insurance is regulated by state governments. That said, with the right’s anti-trans crusade, that might give insurance companies the green light to try to cancel policies after taking people’s money.

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Patricia Kayden  May 3, 2019 • 4:31:13am
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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 4:32:52am

LOL, this article.

Measlesboat McScientologyface Quarantined In St. Lucia (Goes to Wonkette).

It turns out from a debunker of Scientology that the MV Freewinds has hid disease outbreaks from foreign port authorities in the past, hence the strong hammer down on the ship now. (The Freewinds is barred from leaving port now, and other nations have been notified.)

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Chrysicat  May 3, 2019 • 4:37:15am

re: #69 Decatur Deb

Your comment suggests that some level of surgical reworking would preclude the “fraud”. What standard sets the legal/insurance definitions? Is it national, local, or a medical consensus?

Honestly, two things. One, I wish I knew for sure; and two, like most things American it’s a combination of state and local authority. I have an “F” on my license because until 9/11 it was possible to get that changed at the state but not federal level if one presented a psychologist’s note stating that one would be in the process of transition; even then, that was insufficient for the Feds and they insisted on “THE OPERATION”.
It’s also possible that as long as nothing is amiss with male-only organs, it won’t be an issue, since women will be the ones being charged more once sex-specific insurance plans are restored.

Of course, in the long run, the evangelicals run the country through the king, and they want the people who’ve already had the surgery suppressed/executed and the rest forced to live in the gender traditionally associated with their birth sex. Shi’a Islam is better for transwomen than evangelical Christianity; Iran has no problem with someone opting into “inferior” status and I wouldn’t be surprised if, so we can perform our “proper” role as walking incubators, that country’s medical establishment would be working on giving us all functional reproductive systems.

Unfortunately, as indicated in my private post, I would be in trouble even if asylum became an issue for American-born transpeople, as I’m already pretty much incapable of caring for even myself for more than a couple of weeks. So sorry to be such a downer today, and I’m trying to figure out what my options are while my mom ignores that we’re in Munich in 1934 and my dad actively supports jailing the Sozialdemokraten.

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MsJ  May 3, 2019 • 4:39:07am
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Decatur Deb  May 3, 2019 • 4:39:40am

re: #70 Anymouse 🌹

Most insurance is regulated by state governments. That said, with the right’s anti-trans crusade, that might give insurance companies the green light to try to cancel policies after taking people’s money.

I’m afraid, then, of “50 states, 50 rules” and worse. There has to be a reliable agreement or the legal end gets unworkable. Don’t think we want Justice Kavinaugh to set it.

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Chrysicat  May 3, 2019 • 4:42:27am
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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 4:45:21am

re: #76 Chrysicat

If you are fortunate enough to have a Democratic rep, it is still worth calling them. It lets the rep know that there is support for the Democratic position on the ACA from his or her constituents.

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lawhawk  May 3, 2019 • 4:46:35am

re: #15 DodgerFan1988

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MsJ  May 3, 2019 • 4:47:35am

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

As someone who has lost 30 lbs in approximately the last 4 months by walking a shit ton of miles per day on a keto diet this shit rings so fucking true.

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My major motivation was test results that indicated I was sliding into pre-diabetes, and if I’m being honest I’m going to keep this going for another 40 lbs if I can. I’ve gone from a BMI of “obese” to “overweight” and would really like to dip into normal again, but the absolute last goddamned thing I’m gonna do is fast.

I am a hair away from 100 pound loss. I plan on going another 80. I want to be the oldest Kate Moss out there (and the least amount of weight on this knee the better. I am walking again [fairly well, at that] and I am doing everything in my power to keep moving under my own power. It’s a shame it took having this horrible injury to take control. But I am thankful it wasn’t a heart attack or stroke.)

Keto fucking rocks.

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lawhawk  May 3, 2019 • 4:50:15am

re: #59 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

It’s almost as though Nunes was making a show of being a tough guy, but when it came to actually paying a lawyer to serve the alleged defendants, he suddenly realized that he had to pay for the whole thing and that it would get real expensive, real fast, and that he had no chance of winning.

It was all bluster and BS in the hopes of getting cred among the know nothing right (check) and pissing off everyone else (check) and potentially exposing him and his lawyers to sanctions for filing frivolous lawsuits (check).

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 4:50:53am

Well, this is definitely a worse story than Twilight.

2 people infected with HIV after getting ‘vampire facial’ at New Mexico spa (goes to USA Today)

Anti-science woo is going to kill us.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 3, 2019 • 4:55:27am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹

Well, this is definitely a worse story than Twilight.

2 people infected with HIV after getting ‘vampire facial’ at New Mexico spa (goes to USA Today)

Anti-science woo is going to kill us.

Only a few of us. Survival of the fittest and all.

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MsJ  May 3, 2019 • 4:55:29am

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹

If you are fortunate enough to have a Democratic rep, it is still worth calling them. It lets the rep know that there is support for the Democratic position on the ACA from his or her constituents.

Critically important. They need to hear from us that we want them to do what they are doing.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 3, 2019 • 4:57:11am

News tidbit: I’ve maintained my own blog now for 13+ years and today discovered I had finally hit my storage limit, a measly 5 GB. I sent a message to my hosting company about boosting my storage. 5 GB is so puny now.

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jeffreyw  May 3, 2019 • 5:02:54am

Good morning!

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Decatur Deb  May 3, 2019 • 5:03:41am

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 5:03:59am

It’s buried way down in the article, but it’s there.

That would credit him with being a legitimate president (as only legitimate presidents can be impeached).

If enough people started trolling Trump with that, maybe he’d demand to be impeached.

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Barefoot Grin  May 3, 2019 • 5:04:47am

Wheat-Dogg, any big May 4th 100th anniversary goings on?

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 3, 2019 • 5:09:02am

re: #88 Barefoot Grin

Wheat-Dogg, any big May 4th 100th anniversary goings on?

The Chinese government has discouraged these, lest restless natives get any ideas to recreate the May 4th Movement. It’s been suggested the government gave us a long holiday weekend to encourage travel and discourage celebrations of May 4.

The 30th anniversary of the Tian’anmen Square protests comes up on June 4. That’s another anniversary the government would prefer no one remember.

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Barefoot Grin  May 3, 2019 • 5:16:02am

re: #89 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The Chinese government has discouraged these, lest restless natives get any ideas to recreate the May 4th Movement. It’s been suggested the government gave us a long holiday weekend to encourage travel and discourage celebrations of May 4.

The 30th anniversary of the Tian’anmen Square protests comes up on June 4. That’s another anniversary the government would prefer no one remember.

Interesting. Makes sense not to encourage what can get out of control. I think they regretted promoting anti-Japanese protests over the Diaoyu/Senkaku dispute when things got too heated.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 3, 2019 • 5:19:27am

re: #90 Barefoot Grin

Interesting. Makes sense not to encourage what can get out of control. I think they regretted promoting anti-Japanese protests over the Diaoyu/Senkaku dispute when things got too heated.

The Xi government, even more than the previous leadership, wants the people to be “harmonious,” that is, docile and submissive to the authorities. Large assemblies of people are only acceptable when sanctioned and organized by the Party. Impromptu assemblies alarm the Party, because it reminds the leadership what might happen if the economy goes sour.

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MsJ  May 3, 2019 • 5:21:03am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 3, 2019 • 5:22:21am

re: #92 MsJ

He might have trouble with his fellow prisoners if they happen to be PoC.

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Chrysicat  May 3, 2019 • 5:22:23am

re: #86 Decatur Deb

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MsJ  May 3, 2019 • 5:23:17am

We shall see.

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Barefoot Grin  May 3, 2019 • 5:23:55am

re: #91 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The Xi government, even more than the previous leadership, wants the people to be “harmonious,” that is, docile and submissive to the authorities. Large assemblies of people are only acceptable when sanctioned and organized by the Party. Impromptu assemblies alarm the Party, because it reminds the leadership what might happen if the economy goes sour.

Yeah, I remember the freak out over Falun Gong.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 5:27:55am

re: #95 MsJ

We shall see.

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Good. Play hardball with the bastard.

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lawhawk  May 3, 2019 • 5:29:59am

NYC subway bomber suspect Zazi was sentenced to 10 years prison (essentially time served) since his arrest in 2009 on plotting to bomb the NYC subway system with two coconspirators, one of which got life in prison.

He got a lenient sentence as a result of cooperating with authorities.

Documents filed Wednesday in federal court show that, in the years since his plea, Zazi has “provided critical intelligence and unique insight regarding al-Qaeda and its members, provided information that led to terrorism charges against numerous individuals, and testified as a witness in two terrorism trials in the Eastern District of New York, leading to successful criminal prosecutions and convictions.”

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 5:34:32am
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lawhawk  May 3, 2019 • 5:34:39am
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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 5:37:29am

re: #100 lawhawk

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And Barr will gladly help him.

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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 5:42:18am

cnn.com

Biden’s position on trade will continue to be a point of special emphasis for Sanders, who has been bothered by his rival’s efforts to present himself as a “union man,” while still — as he did this week — defending his support for NAFTA, the North American Free Trade Agreement.

Biden in Iowa said he did not regret his vote for NAFTA. Sanders opposed it and has called on President Donald Trump to “go back to the drawing board” on the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), his administration’s renegotiated version of the deal.

Sanders is going to make me support Biden. I don’t believe NAFTA does anything to unions. That’s all domestic politics. Trade is necessary even with a country as resource rich as ours.

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Decatur Deb  May 3, 2019 • 5:43:17am

re: #94 Chrysicat

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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 5:44:39am

re: #19 Dave In Austin

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They do realize that Bill was the bad guy, right?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 3, 2019 • 5:45:10am

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

I’ve gone from a BMI of “obese” to “overweight” and would really like to dip into normal again, but the absolute last goddamned thing I’m gonna do is fast.

Current scuttle-butt does suggest that extending your normal evening meal to morning meal to a 12-14 hour fast is beneficial.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 5:47:47am

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

As someone who has lost 30 lbs in approximately the last 4 months by walking a shit ton of miles per day on a keto diet this shit rings so fucking true.

My major motivation was test results that indicated I was sliding into pre-diabetes, and if I’m being honest I’m going to keep this going for another 40 lbs if I can. I’ve gone from a BMI of “obese” to “overweight” and would really like to dip into normal again, but the absolute last goddamned thing I’m gonna do is fast.

I’m not sure about this whole BMI thing.

The last time I was at the VA hospital they decided to calculate my BMI.

After weighing me (115#) and measuring my height (still 5’10”), they decided my BMI was 26.

My wife went off on the nurse: Are you kidding? Did you look at him?

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 5:50:45am

re: #102 Belafon

cnn.com

Sanders is going to make me support Biden. I don’t believe NAFTA does anything to unions. That’s all domestic politics. Trade is necessary even with a country as resource rich as ours.

Sanders seems to be interested in fighting the past rather than planning for the future.

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MsJ  May 3, 2019 • 5:53:17am

re: #101 HappyWarrior

And Barr will gladly help him.

As will every elected Republican. Every last one.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 3, 2019 • 5:57:05am

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

As someone who has lost 30 lbs in approximately the last 4 months by walking a shit ton of miles per day on a keto diet this shit rings so fucking true.

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My major motivation was test results that indicated I was sliding into pre-diabetes, and if I’m being honest I’m going to keep this going for another 40 lbs if I can. I’ve gone from a BMI of “obese” to “overweight” and would really like to dip into normal again, but the absolute last goddamned thing I’m gonna do is fast.

Good for you. I did not properly start adjusting diet until my A1C was high enough my doctor doubled my Metformin dose. And I was walking 10K steps/day and not really getting things under control. With the adjustment in medicine and diet I lost 15-20 lbs and also got the A1C into “controlled” range at least. Goal now is to try to lock both the exercise and diet regimes into a true habitual mode so that they feel “regular” and not like a chore. And I wouldn’t mind taking off another 15-20 lbs as well.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 5:57:18am

re: #108 MsJ

As will every elected Republican. Every last one.

Right but DOJ will make it even worse.

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lawhawk  May 3, 2019 • 5:58:43am

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹

That sounds like they computed the BMI wrong. Here’s a BMI calculator, and if you weighed 115 pounds, you’d be considered underweight with a BMI of 16.

nhlbi.nih.gov

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Scottish Dragon  May 3, 2019 • 6:01:26am
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Feline Fearless Leader  May 3, 2019 • 6:02:41am

re: #50 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Probably one major reason why he doesn’t want to fill so many jobs in the executive branch, but seems very keen on packing the courts with conservative judges. He’s also shown a disinclination to consider Congress as a co-equal branch of government.

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BlueSpotinAL  May 3, 2019 • 6:03:38am

re: #109 Feline Fearless Leader

Good for you. I did not properly start adjusting diet until my A1C was high enough my doctor doubled my Metformin dose. And I was walking 10K steps/day and not really getting things under control. With the adjustment in medicine and diet I lost 15-20 lbs and also got the A1C into “controlled” range at least. Goal now is to try to lock both the exercise and diet regimes into a true habitual mode so that they feel “regular” and not like a chore. And I wouldn’t mind taking off another 15-20 lbs as well.

Making the changes “regular” is important. I have gone to the gym or otherwise exercised every day since Jan 2, in addition to counting calories and reducing starch in the diet. No late night snacks unless I feel like I will die of starvation.

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MsJ  May 3, 2019 • 6:03:41am
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Feline Fearless Leader  May 3, 2019 • 6:09:21am

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹

One hopeful sign on my drive to the hospital yesterday.

Along US-26 between Bridgeport and Scottsbluff there are several billboards posted by ranchers and farmers supporting Donald Trump. Ten or fifteen of them. All of them handmade and on their private property behind their barbed wire or electric fences.

Well, past tense. All of them are gone. Every single one.

I think maybe some of the folks around here are figuring out just how badly they got corkscrewed.

If that translates into votes for the Democratic candidate in the next election, great. If they decide not to vote, well, not as great, but those still aren’t votes for Trump.

I generally eat breakfast once a week in a local diner* that is within walking distance. Quiet time for me to drink coffee, read stuff on the phone, and often end up eavesdropping on a conversation or two at nearby tables.

I don’t hear a lot of political discourse unless it’s a largish group of friends/co-workers having breakfast. Though today the limited amount of political talk I heard from a bunch of middle-aged men next to me is that the Barr/Trump excuse making is not flying with this bunch. (And it wasn’t flying with the group of men from the local auto dealership a few weeks ago either.)

* - I noted today that their parking lot was full of Volvo, Audi, Porsche, and pretty much no American make autos.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 3, 2019 • 6:10:54am

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹

It might not have been utter incompetency of his lawyer.

Rep. Nunes threats to the newspaper and parody Twitter accounts might have been threats designed to silence opposition (and his bluff was called).

If he actually served the complaint and kicked things off is that when discovery starts and he might end up really shooting himself in the foot?

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The Vicious Babushka  May 3, 2019 • 6:11:48am

re: #10 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

A couple of us here were complaining about the lack of basic tech skills among the Olds. Here’s another example, from today in the office.

Subject: 61-year-old white male
Problem: Inability to print contents of email (sent by subject to himself)
Background: Subject needs to prepare end-of-term grade reports, which are Excel spreadsheets. Having marked student papers at home, subject recorded students’ grades in separate emails which he sent to himself to open and print out in the office. Files (plain text) looked like this:
Class 1 Class 2
Quiz 1 Quiz 1
Sally 23 Jacob 17
Bill 21 Sunshine 18
etc.
NOTE: Subject has a USB stick issued to him by our employer.
Treatment: Subject asked for help in printing out contents of email. Did not know how to copy and paste into a Word document for printing. Showed him shortcuts CTRL-A, CTRL-C, CTRL-V into Word document. On his own, subject did CTRL-V into a *new* email document. Had to point out necessity of copying into a separate Word document. At this point, subject was able to complete desired process.

Or so I assume, since I left for lunch about this time.

Subject also has been shown how to scan a document on the office copier-printer to save on his USB several times, but I had to do it for him *again* today.

Subject is leaving to teach at another college, so we’ll be spared his particular kind of techno-helplessness.

I am A Old but I have a degree in Computer Science (such as it was in 1986) and a 30-year career in IT.

People really did think that their CD tray was a cup holder.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 3, 2019 • 6:15:02am

re: #12 William Lewis

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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 6:15:27am
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Old Liberal  May 3, 2019 • 6:15:46am

Just thinking this morning about forty five years ago when we had a power-mad criminal administration defying congress and many wondered if the rule of law would prevail. Those criminals Mitchell Haldeman Ehrlichman Magruder Agnew etc were professionals of corruption.

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DangerMan  May 3, 2019 • 6:18:30am

re: #39 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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The US State Dept allowed at least 7 foreign governments to rent luxury condos in Trump World Tower without approval from Congress, documents show.

It’s worse than “without approval”

They didn’t even notify congress

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 3, 2019 • 6:19:34am

re: #118 The Vicious Babushka

I am A Old but I have a degree in Computer Science (such as it was in 1986) and a 30-year career in IT.

People really did think that their CD tray was a cup holder.

Not all olds are tech-impaired, but it surprises me how many fellow teachers are still relying on paper and chalkboards. I started using computers in my classroom in 1985, because I had a personal computer as early as 1981, thanks to my dad.

I have people on staff who can’t open attachments reliably, and like the subject I mentioned here, create emails to send to themselves to print out in the office to manually type the contents into an Excel file. O_o

Then he needs help *every single time* to use the Excel file to calculate averages, because the totals have to be calculated out of a set points value.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 3, 2019 • 6:19:50am

re: #118 The Vicious Babushka

I am A Old but I have a degree in Computer Science (such as it was in 1986) and a 30-year career in IT.

People really did think that their CD tray was a cup holder.

^ This x1000. (I also have a 1986 CS degree and had a 30-year IT career.)

Time for some caffeine

I recall my father starting to learn PCs a bit in the mid-80s when he was issued one by ALCOA. It was a basic Mac he had at home, and I probably spent more time on it than he did.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 3, 2019 • 6:20:06am

re: #120 Belafon

Whales ain’t dumb.

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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 6:20:55am
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Scottish Dragon  May 3, 2019 • 6:21:17am

re: #123 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Not all olds are tech-impaired, but it surprises me how many fellow teachers are still relying on paper and chalkboards. I started using computers in my classroom in 1985, because I had a personal computer as early as 1981, thanks to my dad.

I have people on staff who can’t open attachments reliably, and like the subject I mentioned here, create emails to send to themselves to print out in the office to manually type the contents into an Excel file. O_o

Then he needs help *every single time* to use the Excel file to calculate averages, because the totals have to be calculated out of a set points value.

Excel really does kick my ass, I have to admit. I have never had occasion to use it enough where I had to master it…sigh.

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DangerMan  May 3, 2019 • 6:21:33am

re: #45 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Also, Jack Dorsey is an over-privileged, egotistical asshole who ignores the fact that millions of people around the world “fast” because they regularly don’t have any food to eat. Rather than starving his skinny-ass self, he might consider alleviating food shortages with his considerable wealth.

+ A bunch

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 3, 2019 • 6:23:07am

Note on my coffee-dipping cat. I asked the vet about it the other day when Tuxedo Cat was there to get her shots and a check-up. He thought it was interesting, did not know why she found coffee attractive, and recommended keeping her away from it.

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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 6:25:10am

re: #129 Feline Fearless Leader

Note on my coffee-dipping cat. I asked the vet about it the other day when Tuxedo Cat was there to get her shots and a check-up. He thought it was interesting, did not know why she found coffee attractive, and recommended keeping her away from it.

You don’t want her to get to the point where she wakes you up demanding coffee.

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MsJ  May 3, 2019 • 6:27:26am

re: #129 Feline Fearless Leader

Note on my coffee-dipping cat. I asked the vet about it the other day when Tuxedo Cat was there to get her shots and a check-up. He thought it was interesting, did not know why she found coffee attractive, and recommended keeping her away from it.

We have to keep our dog away from our coffee cups all the times. As soon as we walk out of the room, he’s on the end table lapping it up.

Every. Damn. Day.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 3, 2019 • 6:27:57am

re: #127 Scottish Dragon

Excel really does kick my ass, I have to admit. I have never had occasion to use it enough where I had to master it…sigh.

I’m not an Excel master, but I can make it do what I want, which is mostly gradebook stuff.

Some aspects of Excel drive me nuts. Creating charts is not always intuitive, and it takes several attempts for me to get a simple pie or bar graph to look the way I want. Excel also sucks for scientific work.

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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 6:28:03am
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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 6:28:25am

re: #111 lawhawk

That sounds like they computed the BMI wrong. Here’s a BMI calculator, and if you weighed 115 pounds, you’d be considered underweight with a BMI of 16.

nhlbi.nih.gov

That’s probably the correct calculation. Maybe the VA was using ounces instead of pounds or something.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 3, 2019 • 6:29:05am

re: #134 Anymouse 🌹

That’s probably the correct calculation. Maybe the VA was using ounces instead of pounds or something.

Troy ounces.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 6:30:30am

re: #133 Belafon

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MsJ  May 3, 2019 • 6:30:55am
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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 6:31:25am

re: #135 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Troy ounces.

BMI is also really outdated. I think it was developed in the 19th century.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 6:31:56am

re: #137 MsJ

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 6:33:55am

re: #135 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Troy ounces.

They’re going to put me on the gold standard. /s

Peter Thiel’s Palantir Was Used To Bust Relatives of Migrant Children, New Documents Show (The Intercept)

Libertarians love smaller government, except when they don’t. Theil all-in on deporting “those people.”

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MsJ  May 3, 2019 • 6:34:01am
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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 6:36:32am

re: #141 MsJ

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 3, 2019 • 6:37:50am

re: #141 MsJ

NO COLLUSION!! WITCH HUNT!!11ty!!

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 6:40:54am

Conservative PragerU Media Personality Caught on Video Saying Rape is ‘Hilarious’ (Mediaite)

Will Witt is a popular social media influencer and personality at the conservative nonprofit PragerU — a reactionary digital outlet known for its viral lecture videos, which often focus on combating progressive views on sexual politics and rape. One widely-shared PragerU video claiming there is “no evidence of a national campus rape epidemic,” for example, has earned the outlet notoriety.

Witt, who posted that PragerU clip on college sexual assault to his popular Facebook page, can be seen calling rape “hilarious” while holding down a young woman in a video sent to Mediaite. “Yo, Rape is hilarious,” Witt says into a camera while sitting on a water fountain and using both of his hands to hold a woman face-down in his lap.

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2019 • 6:42:26am
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MsJ  May 3, 2019 • 6:42:30am

This level of stupid honestly stuns me. I mean there is stupid and then there is this…a whole lot more than just stupid.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 6:42:52am

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹

Conservative PragerU Media Personality Caught on Video Saying Rape is ‘Hilarious’ (Mediaite)

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You know what’s hilarious, a right wing jackass who thinks he’s subversive.

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Scottish Dragon  May 3, 2019 • 6:44:07am

re: #132 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I’m not an Excel master, but I can make it do what I want, which is mostly gradebook stuff.

Some aspects of Excel drive me nuts. Creating charts is not always intuitive, and it takes several attempts for me to get a simple pie or bar graph to look the way I want. Excel also sucks for scientific work.

Generally need bespoke software for science applications.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 6:44:22am

re: #146 MsJ

This level of stupid honestly stuns me. I mean there is stupid and then there is this…a whole lot more than just stupid.

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I thought they were against political correctness. These two grifters.

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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 6:46:40am

re: #146 MsJ

This level of stupid honestly stuns me. I mean there is stupid and then there is this…a whole lot more than just stupid.

Someone should tell Trump only black people eat KFC.

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DangerMan  May 3, 2019 • 6:47:40am

re: #82 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Only a few of us. Survival of the fittest most everyone who is smarter than a box of rocks and all.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 3, 2019 • 6:48:06am

re: #148 Scottish Dragon

Generally need bespoke software for science applications.

Yes. Graphical Analysis was a neat little program I used for my high school classes. It could calculate several kinds of best data fits and generate both data tables and graphs with ease. More advanced scientific work requires beefier software, maybe even FORTRAN, which still a thing.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 6:48:59am

re: #147 HappyWarrior

You know what’s hilarious, a right wing jackass who thinks he’s subversive.

Witt used to work for Turning Point USA.

From the same article:

Dennis Prager has his own history of controversial commentary on sex. In a 2008 column series titled, “When a Woman Isn’t In the Mood,” he argued wives should sexually submit to their husbands even if they are not in the mood because of personal issues like “female nature, childhood trauma, not feeling sexy, being preoccupied with some problem, [and] fatigue after a day with the children.” The 70-year-old has also argued that false sexual assault accusations are just as bad or worse than actual rape and has written that “given the expanded definitions of rape, not all claims of ‘rape’ are truly rape.”

Prager himself is a nationally-syndicated conservative talk show host (read propagandist).

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 3, 2019 • 6:49:09am

re: #146 MsJ

Would D&S call the cops out if they saw white people eating fried chicken in the park?

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 6:49:12am

Fox is hilarious. They engage in literal race baiting all the damn time and a white Dem rep brings a piece of chicken to call another white msn a chicken and FNC gets the only two black friends they have to call it a common idiom- racist. Old Rupert learned a lot from the USSR.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 6:49:36am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹

Witt used to work for Turning Point USA.

From the same article:

Prager himself is a nationally-syndicated conservative talk show host (read propagandist).

I know who Prager is. These people man.

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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 6:50:46am

re: #148 Scottish Dragon

Generally need bespoke software for science applications.

People who use Excel for scientific work should be using Matlab. When one of my coworkers took numerical analysis in the mid 90s, though, his school used Excel. It was probably very useful at showing what was going on, but it ended up teaching a whole lot of people that it could be done that way.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 6:50:49am

re: #150 Belafon

Someone should tell Trump only black people eat KFC.

KFC stock plunges as conservatives across the nation flock to Church’s instead.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 6:50:53am

re: #154 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Would D&S call the cops out if they saw white people eating fried chicken in the park?

D&S are going to lose their 15 mins eventually and they’ll be like that McHugh doing mea culpas once their money dries up and those wingnuts they thought were their friends stop calling.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 6:51:11am

re: #158 Anymouse 🌹

KFC stock plunges as conservatives across the nation flock to Church’s instead.

Popeyes is better than both.

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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 6:52:47am

re: #160 HappyWarrior

Popeyes is better than both.

Yes, but it’s obvious which one has been blessed by God.

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DangerMan  May 3, 2019 • 6:52:48am

re: #102 Belafon

cnn.com

Sanders is going to make me support Biden. I don’t believe NAFTA does anything to unions. That’s all domestic politics. Trade is necessary even with a country as resource rich as ours.

The only reason NAFTA 2 doesn’t pass now is the senate R’s disagree with trump on tariffs

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 6:56:32am

re: #161 Belafon

Yes, but it’s obvious which one has been blessed by God.

Yeah there is that.

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DangerMan  May 3, 2019 • 6:57:20am

re: #105 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Current scuttle-butt does suggest that extending your normal evening meal to morning meal to a 12-14 hour fast is beneficial.

Another says:
eat food, not too much, mostly plants

A moderate, well balanced diet doesn’t need much fine tuning

Otoh most any technique that helps someone get, and keep, the extra weight off is a good one

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DangerMan  May 3, 2019 • 6:58:01am

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹

I’m not sure about this whole BMI thing.

The last time I was at the VA hospital they decided to calculate my BMI.

After weighing me (115#) and measuring my height (still 5’10”), they decided my BMI was 26.

My wife went off on the nurse: Are you kidding? Did you look at him?

You’re not underweight, you’re overtall

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 6:58:51am

re: #165 DangerMan

You’re not underweight, you’re overtall

LOL. I’m insufficiently three-dimensional.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 3, 2019 • 6:59:14am

re: #123 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Not all olds are tech-impaired, but it surprises me how many fellow teachers are still relying on paper and chalkboards. I started using computers in my classroom in 1985, because I had a personal computer as early as 1981, thanks to my dad.

I have people on staff who can’t open attachments reliably, and like the subject I mentioned here, create emails to send to themselves to print out in the office to manually type the contents into an Excel file. O_o

Then he needs help *every single time* to use the Excel file to calculate averages, because the totals have to be calculated out of a set points value.

I had a co-worker doing accounting work for the department, who (we found out after she retired) would manually calculate everything and overwrite all the formulas in the spreadsheets set up for the purpose with her numbers.

(She also did all the closeout calculations for dozens of accounts, then filed them without actually taking the actions outlined in the closeouts, but THAT’s another horror story.)

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2019 • 7:00:23am

re: #15 DodgerFan1988

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:02:13am

re: #168 gocart mozart

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They came for Paul Joseph Watson?
Oh you mean he got banned by Facebook?
Yeah I gave like no shits because I’ve been to Auschwitz.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 7:02:57am

pbs.twimg.com

The UK’s Conservative Party loses about 40% of their council seats in elections last night. UKIP lost about eighty seats. Liberal Democrats pick up more than four hundred, Greens pick up more than one hundred, independent candidates picked up about three hundred fifty.

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DangerMan  May 3, 2019 • 7:07:15am

re: #159 HappyWarrior

D&S are going to lose their 15 mins eventually and they’ll be like that McHugh doing mea culpas once their money dries up and those wingnuts they thought were their friends stop calling.

Ie they need to find jobs

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:09:09am

re: #170 Anymouse 🌹

pbs.twimg.com

The UK’s Conservative Party loses about 40% of their council seats in elections last night. UKIP lost about eighty seats. Liberal Democrats pick up more than four hundred, Greens pick up more than one hundred, independent candidates picked up about three hundred fifty.

Lib Dems might be UK’s best hope. I’d take Vince Cable over Corbyn and May. I’m reading about the deputy of the LD tho, Jo Swinson, she’s more likely the future than Cable whom is 76.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:11:37am

re: #171 DangerMan

Ie they need to find jobs

Yep.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 7:12:55am

re: #159 HappyWarrior

D&S are going to lose their 15 mins eventually and they’ll be like that McHugh doing mea culpas once their money dries up and those wingnuts they thought were their friends stop calling.

Perhaps all they need to do is rebrand as “Buckeyball and Rayon.”

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:14:26am

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹

Perhaps all they need to do is rebrand as “Buckeyball and Rayon.”

Ha, I dunno. It’s pretty pathetic what they do though. I mean defending the Congressman with Nuremberg citizenship law beliefs who believes white nationalism isn’t a bad thing. Come the fuck on.

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William Lewis  May 3, 2019 • 7:15:41am

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 7:17:26am
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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 7:20:43am

re: #175 HappyWarrior

Ha, I dunno. It’s pretty pathetic what they do though. I mean defending the Congressman with Nuremberg citizenship law beliefs who believes white nationalism isn’t a bad thing. Come the fuck on.

Money can make people defend all sorts of crazy things. I wonder who finances them.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2019 • 7:21:07am
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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:22:51am

re: #179 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Gee Glenn, what was your first clue? // You’re just a fucking dumbass hack who thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room but was too busy jacking himself off into a frenzy because of his hatred of the Dem establishment to pay attention to what Trump was actually saying.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 3, 2019 • 7:22:57am

re: #167 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Sounds similar to my sitch here. It’s like people don’t realize why computers are called “compute -rs”.

My aforementioned co-worker texted me earlier this evening because his cursor stopped moving. I suggested restarting the computer. Didn’t help. So I suggested, if has a wireless mouse, maybe its battery is dead. If he has a wired USB mouse, unplug it, then plug it back in. One of those must have worked, because he said “thanks.”

This same guy seemed surprised that laptops can do just about everything a desktop can. I convinced him, as someone who moves around as EFL teachers do, to buy a laptop.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 3, 2019 • 7:24:37am

Damn it, Nancy! You’re losing me here. Of course it would die in the Senate. The point is to make a stand and get all those Republicans on record as voting NOT to impeach trump.

If we can’t start impeachment hearings against this asshole after all he’s done, there’s no point in keeping the impeachment rules on the books…because they are useless.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she still has reservations about initiating impeachment proceeding against President Donald Trump, whose administration evaded numerous congressional requests for information relating to his finances and staff this week.

At a press conference on Thursday, Pelosi justified her long standing reluctance to begin the impeachment process, calling it “the easy way out” for Republicans who are “complicit in the special-interest agenda,” because they know the effort would “end at the Senate’s edge.”

If Pelosi, as House Speaker, approves the process, an article of impeachment would have to get through a House vote. If an article passes in the House, two-thirds of the Senate would still have to vote to convict the president.

This means that at least 20 Senate Republicans would have to cross the party line.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:25:57am

re: #182 Eclectic Cyborg

Damn it, Nancy! You’re losing me here.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she still has reservations about initiating impeachment proceeding against President Donald Trump, whose administration evaded numerous congressional requests for information relating to his finances and staff this week.

At a press conference on Thursday, Pelosi justified her long standing reluctance to begin the impeachment process, calling it “the easy way out” for Republicans who are “complicit in the special-interest agenda,” because they know the effort would “end at the Senate’s edge.”

If Pelosi, as House Speaker, approves the process, an article of impeachment would have to get through a House vote. If an article passes in the House, two-thirds of the Senate would still have to vote to convict the president.

This means that at least 20 Senate Republicans would have to cross the party line.

Maybe she wants criminal prosecution after he leaves office. I disagree. I think you need both impeachment and that. I want impeachment but I want it done smartly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2019 • 7:25:58am

re: #161 Belafon

Yes, but it’s obvious which one has been blessed by God.

Chick-fil-a

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 7:26:47am

re: #179 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

And Greenwalt and his fanbois in the thread still manage to attack Democrats as somehow worse.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 3, 2019 • 7:27:21am

Can someone explain to me how the fuck Glenn Greenwald gets so much TV time?

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 3, 2019 • 7:27:44am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 3, 2019 • 7:28:39am

At this point, I am hoping Mueller will show up at the Judiciary hearing and lay the smack down on Trump and THEN maybe Dems will be motivated enough to impeach.

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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 7:29:29am

re: #182 Eclectic Cyborg

Damn it, Nancy! You’re losing me here.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she still has reservations about initiating impeachment proceeding against President Donald Trump, whose administration evaded numerous congressional requests for information relating to his finances and staff this week.

At a press conference on Thursday, Pelosi justified her long standing reluctance to begin the impeachment process, calling it “the easy way out” for Republicans who are “complicit in the special-interest agenda,” because they know the effort would “end at the Senate’s edge.”

If Pelosi, as House Speaker, approves the process, an article of impeachment would have to get through a House vote. If an article passes in the House, two-thirds of the Senate would still have to vote to convict the president.

This means that at least 20 Senate Republicans would have to cross the party line.

Or she’s seeing what people are saying:

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:29:40am

re: #186 Eclectic Cyborg

Can someone explain to me how the fuck Glenn Greenwald gets so much TV time?

Media loves a self fancied lefty that bashes the left.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:30:35am

re: #189 Belafon

Or she’s seeing what people are saying:

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I think so too. We do have to be aware of that. I think she wants to give Trump rope to hang himself with for the public.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:31:19am

I just don’t see how you can agree Trump did all this and still think he should be re-elected.

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2019 • 7:32:38am

re: #169 HappyWarrior

Hope that wasn’t offensive. He is acting like he is a persecuted victim of a crime against humanity.

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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 7:34:06am

re: #192 HappyWarrior

I just don’t see how you can agree Trump did all this and still think he should be re-elected.

There are the crazy people, but there are plenty of people who think that the election will fix it. And remember when people in Wisconsin tried to remove Walker out of the normal election cycle? Some Democrats voted for him to remain just because of th eprocess.

Pelosi and company are going to have to prove to a lot of people that doing impeachment when they know Trump won’t be removed is more than just politics.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 3, 2019 • 7:35:37am

Re: Pelosi and impeachent… I know Trump deserves to be impeached, but it would be even better if he was rejected handily by voters. That would kill his ego so hard. And when he refuses to give up the office, THEN he can be lead away in cuffs.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:35:37am

re: #193 gocart mozart

Hope that wasn’t offensive. He is acting like he is a persecuted victim of a crime against humanity.

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Nah, what is offensive is he thinks being banned from Facebook is anyway comparable to what the Jewish people experienced. He’s a fucking punkass loser who has no idea what oppression is because he like his movement is a professional victim who at the same time thinks he’s this badass. I was saying I didn’t give a shit because I’ve been to Auschwitz as well as Dachau and Sachsenhausen and I know what happened there and being banned from Facebook isn’t even close.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:36:35am

re: #195 GlutenFreeJesus

Re: Pelosi and impeachent… I know Trump deserves to be impeached, but it would be even better if he was rejected handily by voters. That would kill his ego so hard. And when he refuses to give up the office, THEN he can be lead away in cuffs.

I wonder if that’s the calculus Pelosi has. I don’t think we’re likely to get impeachment and a post presidency trial.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:37:47am

re: #194 Belafon

There are the crazy people, but there are plenty of people who think that the election will fix it. And remember when people in Wisconsin tried to remove Walker out of the normal election cycle? Some Democrats voted for him to remain just because of th eprocess.

Pelosi and company are going to have to prove to a lot of people that doing impeachment when they know Trump won’t be removed is more than just politics.

True, true. We need to talk about why impeachment needs to be used so future executives don’t do what Trump has done. I do wonder if Pelosi is considering that impeachment and possible post presidency criminal proceedings might be a bridge too far for the electorate.

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Jay C  May 3, 2019 • 7:39:22am

re: #182 Eclectic Cyborg

Damn it, Nancy! You’re losing me here.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she still has reservations about initiating impeachment proceeding against President Donald Trump, whose administration evaded numerous congressional requests for information relating to his finances and staff this week.

At a press conference on Thursday, Pelosi justified her long standing reluctance to begin the impeachment process, calling it “the easy way out” for Republicans who are “complicit in the special-interest agenda,” because they know the effort would “end at the Senate’s edge.”

If Pelosi, as House Speaker, approves the process, an article of impeachment would have to get through a House vote. If an article passes in the House, two-thirds of the Senate would still have to vote to convict the president.

This means that at least 20 Senate Republicans would have to cross the party line.

Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I agree with Madam Speaker’s tactics here. Rushing into an impeachment campaign right now (and, IMO, the right now part is the key) will only serve to:
1. Make “impeachment” the sole business of Congress/sole focus of the media for months on end.
2. Give Trump and his creatures months on end to try to poison the atmosphere with hysterical rhetoric (amplified by the RW echo-chamber at full volume)
3. Give said creatures time to try to rig the game even more than they already have.

In my formal opinion, as Some Random Guy on a Blog, the Dems would be better served by a policy of treating Trump’s eventual/possible removal as a siege, not a frontal assault. Concentrate on chipping away at this crooked Admin’s mendacious defenses; keep up promoting popular legislation (which Trump and the GOP can be handily painted as obstructing), and close the net on the crooks bit by bit - Barr is a handy first victim.

After All, Speaker Pelosi can always change her mind “on new evidence” re impeachment: and I think a vital piece of evidence is going be some polling data showing public support for impeachment moving away from the recent figure of 66-29 against .

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jaunte  May 3, 2019 • 7:39:48am

re: #196 HappyWarrior

But, but… he’s been Gaetzed!

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 3, 2019 • 7:40:17am

re: #195 GlutenFreeJesus

Re: Pelosi and impeachent… I know Trump deserves to be impeached, but it would be even better if he was rejected handily by voters. That would kill his ego so hard. And when he refuses to give up the office, THEN he can be lead away in cuffs.

This may be why so many are against Impeachment. They think it should be the prerogative of the voters to remove Trump from office.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 3, 2019 • 7:41:02am

re: #199 Jay C

What I’ve been saying all along: hearings now.

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makeitstop  May 3, 2019 • 7:42:38am

re: #182 Eclectic Cyborg

Damn it, Nancy! You’re losing me here.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she still has reservations about initiating impeachment proceeding against President Donald Trump, whose administration evaded numerous congressional requests for information relating to his finances and staff this week.

At a press conference on Thursday, Pelosi justified her long standing reluctance to begin the impeachment process, calling it “the easy way out” for Republicans who are “complicit in the special-interest agenda,” because they know the effort would “end at the Senate’s edge.”

If Pelosi, as House Speaker, approves the process, an article of impeachment would have to get through a House vote. If an article passes in the House, two-thirds of the Senate would still have to vote to convict the president.

This means that at least 20 Senate Republicans would have to cross the party line.

Head fake.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:42:48am

re: #201 Eclectic Cyborg

This may be why so many are against Impeachment. They think it should be the prerogative of the voters to remove Trump from office.

You do have to remember this. Nixon was already re-elected when Watergate happened. I wonder if that fact changed why the Dems of the 1970’s pushed for Nixon to be removed. Personally, I can see it from both sides here. But I think you need impeachment proceedings so future executives don’t do this. Now that said, they may be thinking and I’m inclined to agree that impeachment along with post-presidency criminal proceedings might be a bridge too far. And I agree with GFJ that Trump losing in the biggest re-election loss in years would be a huge blow to his ego.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 3, 2019 • 7:45:02am

Unemployment is now at a 50 year low. Trump somehow manages to keep winning on the economy month after month. I don’t understand it.

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2019 • 7:45:30am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 3, 2019 • 7:45:32am

re: #204 HappyWarrior

You do have to remember this. Nixon was already re-elected when Watergate happened. I wonder if that fact changed why the Dems of the 1970’s pushed for Nixon to be removed. Personally, I can see it from both sides here. But I think you need impeachment proceedings so future executives don’t do this. Now that said, they may be thinking and I’m inclined to agree that impeachment along with post-presidency criminal proceedings might be a bridge too far. And I agree with GFJ that Trump losing in the biggest re-election loss in years would be a huge blow to his ego.

THIS

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:45:46am

re: #205 Eclectic Cyborg

Unemployment is now at a 50 year low. Trump somehow manages to keep winning on the economy month after month. I don’t understand it.

It’s a ticking time bomb IMO.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 3, 2019 • 7:45:52am
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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:47:05am

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

THIS

Right and I think maybe Pelosi thinks there needs to be time to develop that argument. That’ and the other things I’ve said I think might explain her reluctance. I think she’s also worried that if the Republicans ever have the House with the a Dem President, they will try something like that out of revenge but as I said, we need to make it clear to the American people that Trump is a criminal.

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jaunte  May 3, 2019 • 7:47:08am

re: #205 Eclectic Cyborg

Unemployment is now at a 50 year low. Trump somehow manages to keep winning on the economy month after month. I don’t understand it.

The safety net is being dismantled, and one job isn’t enough for most people.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:47:40am

re: #211 jaunte

The safety net is being dismantled, and one job isn’t enough for most people.

Yep.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2019 • 7:49:09am

moron likes the NYT now

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:51:05am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron likes the NYT now

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They were spying on the Russians that went to your campaign. If I’m the FBI and I’m surveiling gangsters and one of them goes into a public official’s office. Oh and btw Donald, you’re a traitor. You’re worse than Benedict Arnold because Benedict Arnold at least had Saratoga. You were always a shitty American even before your dalliance with Vlad.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2019 • 7:52:21am

LOL, Mikey

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makeitstop  May 3, 2019 • 7:52:54am

re: #202 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

What I’ve been saying all along: hearings now.

Again - timing is everything.

The old advertising adage is ‘you don’t roll out a new product in the summertime.’ People aren’t paying attention.

What would do more damage - running impeachment hearings in July while everyone’s off at the beach, or having televised hearings every single day once the 2020 campaign is in full swing?

I’m completely in favor of taking small bites over the summer. Contempt of Congress trials for Barr and Mnuchin, criminal investigations into Eric Prince, maybe make Brad Parscale’s life miserable for a while. These would all serve to grab headlines over the summer, and they would be the perfect pre-game for the main event - impeachment hearings in September, that would drag on for six or eight months, like Watergate. That would put us in May 2020, and by that time Trump’s approval ratings will be in the (gold) toilet for good.

What better to take Trump off his campaigning game better than having to answer daily questions about the latest hearing revelations?

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 7:53:23am

re: #204 HappyWarrior

You do have to remember this. Nixon was already re-elected when Watergate happened. I wonder if that fact changed why the Dems of the 1970’s pushed for Nixon to be removed. Personally, I can see it from both sides here. But I think you need impeachment proceedings so future executives don’t do this. Now that said, they may be thinking and I’m inclined to agree that impeachment along with post-presidency criminal proceedings might be a bridge too far. And I agree with GFJ that Trump losing in the biggest re-election loss in years would be a huge blow to his ego.

On the issue of impeachment (the bill of charges and the vote in the House), hearings into whether there are any impeachable charges have to be held first.

Those hearings are being held right now, in very capable committees (witness Devin Nunes yesterday being held to the rules and sputtering uselessly).

If those committees find evidence of the sort of action which can support impeachment, Nancy Pelosi can immediately switch to moving the bill to the floor.

Just because it appears she isn’t considering impeachment doesn’t mean she isn’t. Since you only get one shot at the king, you’d better not miss.

Right up until a couple weeks before Nixon’s impeachment charges were ready to be brought to the House floor he had wide support. It was the hearings in committees which undermined that support, not the proposed charges themselves.

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jaunte  May 3, 2019 • 7:54:13am

Dispatches from Planet Glemwald

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:54:17am

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

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LOL, Mikey

Neither do you, Mike. Maduro can fuck off but you don’t give a shit about Venezuela and Venezuelans.

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makeitstop  May 3, 2019 • 7:54:18am

re: #205 Eclectic Cyborg

Unemployment is now at a 50 year low. Trump somehow manages to keep winning on the economy month after month. I don’t understand it.

Obama did a really good job. Simple.

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Scottish Dragon  May 3, 2019 • 7:54:58am

re: #189 Belafon

Or she’s seeing what people are saying:

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Similar statistic one month before Nixon was forced to resign.

Public hearings make the difference.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:55:20am

re: #217 Anymouse 🌹

On the issue of impeachment (the bill of charges and the vote in the House), hearings into whether there are any impeachable charges have to be held first.

Those hearings are being held right now, in very capable committees (witness Devin Nunes yesterday being held to the rules and sputtering uselessly).

If those committees find evidence of the sort of action which can support impeachment, Nancy Pelosi can immediately switch to moving the bill to the floor.

Just because it appears she isn’t considering impeachment doesn’t mean she isn’t. Since you only get one shot at the king, you’d better not miss.

Right up until a couple weeks before Nixon’s impeachment charges were ready to be brought to the House floor he had wide support. It was the hearings in committees which undermined that support, not the proposed charges themselves.

I’d say these are preliminary hearings. I’m not upset at her. I understand her pragmatic approach.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2019 • 7:55:35am

Baldrick has had enough

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:55:58am

re: #220 makeitstop

Obama did a really good job. Simple.

Trump literally portrayed the unemployment rate as being at Great Depression levels before he got elected. Hillary got called a liar time and time again and no one ever called Trump out on that in the media. And I’ll say it once again, HRC was right about Trump and Bernie was wrong, HRC correctly saw the unique danger Trump is and Bernie would have just treated Trump like Gen Eric Republican.

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DangerMan  May 3, 2019 • 7:56:50am

on diet exercise and other stuff:

one of the things i like about LGF is ideas are taken on merit. for the most part, unless you let it slip, i dont know who you are, where you live, what you look like, on and on. what you say speaks for itself without coloration.

today a number of folks mentioned how they are dealing with diet and exercise.

i’m a believer in the simple: weight loss is calories in less calories out and mostly balanced. if there are additional dietary factors, diabetes, cholesterol, kosher, vegan, whatever, yeah a little more thought is required.

i’m a believer in a ‘pretty good’ program you stick with is better than a perfect one you ignore.

and i’m a believer in easy, gentle changes with an eye toward the long term.

move: walk, run, bike, whatever. not gut busting, not heart pounding. just keep it up. 1 day a week, then 2, then 3, then…. for 5 minutes, then 10, then …..slow gradual increases.

or maybe your way needs to be 5 minutes every single day until it becomes ‘routine’, then you can add in days off. whatever works.

make it a part of your life and remind yourself daily, sometimes more than once, what you’re doing. i’ve been running for years and i still remind myself every singe day why it’s important, what i want from it.

because at those ‘other’ times - we act and react often without thinking. then we realize 20 minutes later what we just ate…or that we rolled over and blew off today’s walk.

try, test, adjust, tweak… look at the chart below. keep your eye on the long term trend. the daily ups and downs will break your heart.

after mrs dm had her lung surgery last year, she was told to avoid tomatoes and tomato sauces (long story). pasta and pizza omg! new recipes (google pasta without tomato sauce and wow, what a list), new thinking, it took a year and now it’s permanent and no going back. Deprivation would have failed.

Don’t be radical /drastic or faddist. Conversely, don’t pay lip service and kid yourself that you’re doing what you aren’t doing. Find a moderate, acceptable, livable, middle way with how you eat and how you incorporate exercise and you will be successful.

look back in a year and tell us.

i’ve lost 10# in the last year, 20 in the last 10 years, and 50 since my heaviest.
congrats to us every one

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jeffreyw  May 3, 2019 • 7:56:50am

re: #204 HappyWarrior

You do have to remember this. Nixon was already re-elected when Watergate happened. I wonder if that fact changed why the Dems of the 1970’s pushed for Nixon to be removed. Personally, I can see it from both sides here. But I think you need impeachment proceedings so future executives don’t do this. Now that said, they may be thinking and I’m inclined to agree that impeachment along with post-presidency criminal proceedings might be a bridge too far. And I agree with GFJ that Trump losing in the biggest re-election loss in years would be a huge blow to his ego.

There must be consequences now or the next chief exec will run wild for his entire term with no fear that he will be stopped. Perhaps this is at the bottom of Pelosi’s hesitance, that Trump, and others, will see that the chief exec can’t be stopped. An existential crisis for the US Constitution.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:57:57am

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

Baldrick has had enough

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I don’t blame him. As a student of British history, I’m a proponent of Clement Attlee as Britain’s greatest PM. Corbyn is awful. I know they obviously don’t care what I have to say but Corbyn is what’s keeping May in power by being the other side of shitty coin.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 7:58:18am

re: #226 jeffreyw

There must be consequences now or the next chief exec will run wild for his entire term with no fear that he will be stopped. Perhaps this is at the bottom of Pelosi’s hesitance, that Trump, and others, will see that the chief exec can’t be stopped. An existential crisis for the US Constitution.

That’s exactly why I support impeachment.

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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 8:00:09am

re: #204 HappyWarrior

You do have to remember this. Nixon was already re-elected when Watergate happened. I wonder if that fact changed why the Dems of the 1970’s pushed for Nixon to be removed. Personally, I can see it from both sides here. But I think you need impeachment proceedings so future executives don’t do this. Now that said, they may be thinking and I’m inclined to agree that impeachment along with post-presidency criminal proceedings might be a bridge too far. And I agree with GFJ that Trump losing in the biggest re-election loss in years would be a huge blow to his ego.

And here’s the calculus I worry about. Lots of people here and other “pay attention to politics all the time blogs” seem to think that impeachment will open people’s eyes. I don’t. I think most people get their news either from Fox or from friends. And when your news sources are that shallow, the only thing you think is that a conviction is an indication of guilt (most people think that being acquitted in a trial means you didn’t do the crime). So, in order to get most people to not think you’re playing games, you will need not just impeachment, but a conviction. Now, raise your hand if you think that the current Senate will convict Trump.

Too many of us think that impeachment will get all of the information out to people. It won’t. I work with people who think that having to put up with Trump is exactly the same as them having to put up with Obama. They’re not going to paying enough attention to the news to pick up all the details. Most of the time, Fox won’t even show them what was said.

So, we have to build up to needing impeachment. I don’t mind people calling for it, but Mueller and McGahn will need to testify first before it can even start.

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2019 • 8:00:21am

It’s a pretty good joke

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jaunte  May 3, 2019 • 8:00:46am
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MsJ  May 3, 2019 • 8:00:56am

re: #195 GlutenFreeJesus

Re: Pelosi and impeachent… I know Trump deserves to be impeached, but it would be even better if he was rejected handily by voters. That would kill his ego so hard. And when he refuses to give up the office, THEN he can be lead away in cuffs.

It would not kill his ego. Trump is a narcissist. The only thing that would do (alone) is make him scream FRAUD! THEY STOLE THIS FROM ME! And he would fully believe every lie he said.

Narcissists do not think like normal people or have the capacity to look either inward or outward. It is solely about them at every turn. Good things they (had nothing to do with, they) did…bad things (that they caused) are only done to them.

Follow @HoarseWisperer on Twitter. He was married to a narcissist (pathologically speaking) and has really good - and fascinating - insight.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 8:01:07am

re: #229 Belafon

And here’s the calculus I worry about. Lots of people here and other “pay attention to politics all the time blogs” seem to think that impeachment will open people’s eyes. I don’t. I think most people get their news either from Fox or from friends. And when your news sources are that shallow, the only thing you think is that a conviction is an indication of guilt (most people think that being acquitted in a trial means you didn’t do the crime). So, in order to get most people to not think you’re playing games, you will need not just impeachment, but a conviction. Now, raise your hand if you think that the current Senate will convict Trump.

Too many of us think that impeachment will get all of the information out to people. It won’t. I work with people who think that having to put up with Trump is exactly the same as them having to put up with Obama. They’re not going to paying enough attention to the news to pick up all the details. Most of the time, Fox won’t even show them what was said.

So, we have to build up to needing impeachment. I don’t mind people calling for it, but Mueller and McGahn will need to testify first before it can even start.

We’re on the same page. I favor smart impeachment which would certainly include McGahn, Mueller, and others testifying.

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jaunte  May 3, 2019 • 8:01:53am

“…Another worker from the same vineyard, who also asked to remain anonymous in order to avoid reprisals, thinks the company pretends not to know.

“Yes, they know you are undocumented, because if you look (closely) at the Social Security papers that are handed to them, they’re false,” he said. “The process is simple. They give you your application, and they find a way for you to fill it out,” he added.”

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 8:01:54am

re: #230 gocart mozart

It’s a pretty good joke

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Pretty tame compared to the shit that elected Republicans did with Obama but we get it, you’re anti PC until your beloved Trump is the subject of mockery.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2019 • 8:02:33am
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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 8:04:03am

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sasse is the Mitt Romney of Susan Collins.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2019 • 8:07:36am

not your typical marching band routine

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Chrysicat  May 3, 2019 • 8:07:46am

re: #124 Feline Fearless Leader

^ This x1000. (I also have a 1986 CS degree and had a 30-year IT career.)

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I recall my father starting to learn PCs a bit in the mid-80s when he was issued one by ALCOA. It was a basic Mac he had at home, and I probably spent more time on it than he did.

Whereas mine bought a Mac Plus (not sure if he was allowed to use it for business purposes or not; I’m sure his employer—a Martin Marietta subcontractor—was a Mac office, but I don’t know if they allowed his home floppies in his desktop machine). I think my sister and I, elementary-aged to your college-grad, also used it more than Dad did. Combined, certainly, but possibly even individually. Even wasted way too much time on the breakout-clone, the billiard game and the Daleks game that game installed on it, especially before we got a NES at the end of ‘87.

And despite that, he’s forgotten most of what he knew about computer-literacy, and Mom has to enlist me as tech support every time she even wants to send a scan in email.

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makeitstop  May 3, 2019 • 8:11:26am

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

not your typical marching band routine

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That was intense. I got tired just watching.

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Sufficient unto the day...  May 3, 2019 • 8:11:45am
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Feline Fearless Leader  May 3, 2019 • 8:12:20am

re: #239 Chrysicat

My parents got to basic competency with email and using a printer and word processor since my mother was a great sender of letters and thus going to email made sense as it became popular.

About the only tech support I did for my mother was cleaning some viruses off her machine in the early 90s after her account sent me an email with an obvious trojan horse attachment out of the blue.

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2019 • 8:12:33am
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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 8:13:51am

re: #237 HappyWarrior

Sasse is the Mitt Romney of Susan Collins.

I’m sorry we inflicted him on you. It wasn’t my idea.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 8:14:28am

re: #244 Anymouse 🌹

I’m sorry we inflicted him on you. It wasn’t my idea.

You could have done worse I guess. i just hate his act.

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Jay C  May 3, 2019 • 8:15:55am

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

not your typical marching band routine

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OMFG! I watched that twice, and saw (I think) just two minor missteps in two minutes. Amazing - who’s their drillmaster? Frederick the Great?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 3, 2019 • 8:16:30am

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

Upding for Blackadder reference.

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MsJ  May 3, 2019 • 8:17:24am

re: #225 DangerMan

As someone who was unable to walk for four months last year and still have issues, I would sure love some help with this. My knees are shit so even my recumbent bike is a no go.

move: walk, run, bike, whatever. not gut busting, not heart pounding. just keep it up. 1 day a week, then 2, then 3, then…. for 5 minutes, then 10, then …..slow gradual increases.

Thoughts or suggestions would be very welcome!!!

For me, low carb is the only way I can go. Like an alcoholic or someone with drug issues has to abstain from drink or drugs I have to completely not eat bread (or some other high carb foods) because I cannot stop. For me, I follow an ultra low carb diet (lazy keto) which consists of protein and mostly green veggies. I stay away from high glycemic veggies (sweet potatoes, beets, etc.) as well as bread, pasta, rice, etc. While many consider this a fad, for me it is the easiest way to eat, to make decisions and I do not feel I am giving up much of anything because steak and lobster as a nice little dinner always works for me.

People are used to the western way of eating (which helped put me in the position I am in) and once I gave up all the high carb fillers, I not only lost weight but I feel so much better. My guts are much happier.

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MsJ  May 3, 2019 • 8:18:04am

re: #226 jeffreyw

There must be consequences now or the next chief exec will run wild for his entire term with no fear that he will be stopped. Perhaps this is at the bottom of Pelosi’s hesitance, that Trump, and others, will see that the chief exec can’t be stopped. An existential crisis for the US Constitution.

And next time they won’t be as incompetent as these clowns.

Agreed 100%!

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2019 • 8:18:10am
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lawhawk  May 3, 2019 • 8:19:01am

re: #248 MsJ

Swimming. You’d be able to get the cardio in without stressing your joints as much as say biking, jogging, or even walking.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 3, 2019 • 8:20:10am

re: #216 makeitstop

Again - timing is everything.

The old advertising adage is ‘you don’t roll out a new product in the summertime.’ People aren’t paying attention.

What would do more damage - running impeachment hearings in July while everyone’s off at the beach, or having televised hearings every single day once the 2020 campaign is in full swing?

I’m completely in favor of taking small bites over the summer. Contempt of Congress trials for Barr and Mnuchin, criminal investigations into Eric Prince, maybe make Brad Parscale’s life miserable for a while. These would all serve to grab headlines over the summer, and they would be the perfect pre-game for the main event - impeachment hearings in September, that would drag on for six or eight months, like Watergate. That would put us in May 2020, and by that time Trump’s approval ratings will be in the (gold) toilet for good.

What better to take Trump off his campaigning game better than having to answer daily questions about the latest hearing revelations?

The hearings we should be doing now will be preliminary to impeachment hearings proper. (Also too, the Watergate hearings — not impeachment hearings, as they were held in the Senate — started in May, and the nation was riveted. Summertime meant more free time to watch.)

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MsJ  May 3, 2019 • 8:20:17am

re: #228 HappyWarrior

That’s exactly why I support impeachment.

I support prison. Nothing less. Impeachment is a bullshit political process (yes, I agree he should be), but without actual consequences (Go Directly To Jail, Do Not Pass Go, and rot there you fascist motherfucker), it is meaningless in terms of other people wanting to emulate him and his actions.

Trump needs to go to prison and lose every fucking thing he owns. THAT will keep others from doing it (mostly, there will be others as stupid as trump, I am sure), but only real consequences…real world consequences…will stop it.

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BlueSpotinAL  May 3, 2019 • 8:20:37am

re: #193 gocart mozart

Hope that wasn’t offensive. He is acting like he is a persecuted victim of a crime against humanity.

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As the Ce-Lo Green song says: “F—-orget you!”

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 8:21:22am

re: #253 MsJ

I support prison. Nothing less. Impeachment is a bullshit political process (yes, I agree he should be), but without actual consequences (Go Directly To Jail, Do Not Pass Go, and rot there you fascist motherfucker), it is meaningless in terms of other people wanting to emulate him and his actions.

Trump needs to go to prison and lose every fucking thing he owns. THAT will keep others from doing it (mostly, there will be others as stupid as trump, I am sure), but only real consequences…real world consequences…will stop it.

I support prison too. Impeachment first and then prison.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2019 • 8:21:29am

re: #247 Eclectic Cyborg

Upding for Blackadder reference.

Tony said there is “no cunning plan for Brexit”.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 3, 2019 • 8:21:33am

re: #252 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

The hearings we should be doing now will be preliminary to impeachment hearings proper. (Also too, the Watergate hearings — not impeachment hearings, as they were held in the Senate — started in May, and the nation was riveted. Summertime meant more free time to watch.)

Yes, but there were far fewer channels on TV, no smartphones, internet, social media, video game consoles, streaming movies, etc, etc.

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DangerMan  May 3, 2019 • 8:22:28am

re: #197 HappyWarrior

I wonder if that’s the calculus Pelosi has. I don’t think we’re likely to get impeachment and a post presidency trial.

maybe not on the same ‘high crime or misdemeanor’ that (if we’re lucky) got the senate to vote him out

there’s still a lot of state level investigations going on - the foundation, tax fraud, bank fraud, etc

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 8:23:20am

re: #258 DangerMan

maybe not on the same ‘high crime or misdemeanor’ that (if we’re lucky) got the senate to vote him out

there’s still a lot of state level investigations going on - the foundation, tax fraud, bank fraud, etc

AG James in NY is someone that Trump and his family will be whining about shortly.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 3, 2019 • 8:24:34am

re: #257 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes, but there were far fewer channels on TV, no smartphones, internet, social media, video game consoles, streaming movies, etc, etc.

And greater than that the apparent complicity of the major media outlets in only caring for $. Plus the one network that is simply the GOP propaganda wing.

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MsJ  May 3, 2019 • 8:24:46am

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

not your typical marching band routine

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That was amazing!!! Wow.

I suddenly have a craving to watch Animal House again. :D

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DangerMan  May 3, 2019 • 8:28:02am

re: #211 jaunte

The safety net is being dismantled, and one job isn’t enough for most people.

unemployment is low, yes

so what you said plus
- ‘stagnant wages’
- the stock market is (directly) irrelevant to 48% of the country so n/a
- some tariff retaliation has taken it’s, ahem, toll

the ‘economy’ isnt doing all that well

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2019 • 8:28:09am
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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 3, 2019 • 8:31:11am

re: #248 MsJ

As someone who was unable to walk for four months last year and still have issues, I would sure love some help with this. My knees are shit so even my recumbent bike is a no go.

Thoughts or suggestions would be very welcome!!!

For me, low carb is the only way I can go. Like an alcoholic or someone with drug issues has to abstain from drink or drugs I have to completely not eat bread (or some other high carb foods) because I cannot stop. For me, I follow an ultra low carb diet (lazy keto) which consists of protein and mostly green veggies. I stay away from high glycemic veggies (sweet potatoes, beets, etc.) as well as bread, pasta, rice, etc. While many consider this a fad, for me it is the easiest way to eat, to make decisions and I do not feel I am giving up much of anything because steak and lobster as a nice little dinner always works for me.

People are used to the western way of eating (which helped put me in the position I am in) and once I gave up all the high carb fillers, I not only lost weight but I feel so much better. My guts are much happier.

Swimming?

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 3, 2019 • 8:32:49am

re: #253 MsJ

I support prison. Nothing less. Impeachment is a bullshit political process (yes, I agree he should be), but without actual consequences (Go Directly To Jail, Do Not Pass Go, and rot there you fascist motherfucker), it is meaningless in terms of other people wanting to emulate him and his actions.

Trump needs to go to prison and lose every fucking thing he owns. THAT will keep others from doing it (mostly, there will be others as stupid as trump, I am sure), but only real consequences…real world consequences…will stop it.

Successful impeachment means you don’t get the Presidential pension, I believe.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 3, 2019 • 8:35:28am

re: #257 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes, but there were far fewer channels on TV, no smartphones, internet, social media, video game consoles, streaming movies, etc, etc.

There weren’t hundreds, but there were 20 or more — more than one person could get through. And no smart phones, etc. meant people had to stay home if they wanted to watch. Which they did

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DangerMan  May 3, 2019 • 8:36:02am

re: #229 Belafon

And here’s the calculus I worry about. Lots of people here and other “pay attention to politics all the time blogs” seem to think that impeachment will open people’s eyes. I don’t. I think most people get their news either from Fox or from friends. And when your news sources are that shallow, the only thing you think is that a conviction is an indication of guilt (most people think that being acquitted in a trial means you didn’t do the crime). So, in order to get most people to not think you’re playing games, you will need not just impeachment, but a conviction. Now, raise your hand if you think that the current Senate will convict Trump.

Too many of us think that impeachment will get all of the information out to people. It won’t. I work with people who think that having to put up with Trump is exactly the same as them having to put up with Obama. They’re not going to paying enough attention to the news to pick up all the details. Most of the time, Fox won’t even show them what was said.

So, we have to build up to needing impeachment. I don’t mind people calling for it, but Mueller and McGahn will need to testify first before it can even start.

it’s the investigation, stupid (no not you)

and it’s way way too early to be guessing, predicting, or polling how the senate would vote before the evidence is even found and laid out

heck, the specific high crimes and misdemeanors havent even been spelled out yet

all the house is doing right now is it’s constitutional duty of oversight

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2019 • 8:40:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2019 • 8:43:32am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2019 • 8:44:15am
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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 8:47:25am

re: #249 MsJ

And next time they won’t be as incompetent as these clowns.

Agreed 100%!

I don’t know. Bush 1 > Bush 2 > Trump in terms of competence. They have a pretty clear trend going.

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Teukka  May 3, 2019 • 8:49:15am

re: #271 Belafon

I don’t know. Bush 1 > Bush 2 > Trump in terms of competence. They have a pretty clear trend going.

So what you’re saying is that next GOP prez will be a village idiot? Or a post?

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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 8:49:47am

re: #257 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes, but there were far fewer channels on TV, no smartphones, internet, social media, video game consoles, streaming movies, etc, etc.

And no Fox.

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Teukka  May 3, 2019 • 8:51:56am
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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 8:52:31am

re: #272 Teukka

So what you’re saying is that next GOP prez will be a village idiot? Or a post?

It’s not going to be Jell-O, that’s way too smart for them.

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jaunte  May 3, 2019 • 8:54:08am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2019 • 8:55:20am

re: #274 Teukka

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 3, 2019 • 8:55:46am

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

Who the bloody hell needs that many suits??

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Scottish Dragon  May 3, 2019 • 8:57:12am

re: #250 gocart mozart

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 8:57:52am

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

Who the bloody hell needs that many suits??

An elitist gun humper.

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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 8:58:54am

In January of this year, Otis R. Taylor Jr. wrote an article for the San Francisco Chronicle detailing the lives of 53-year-old Marie Mckinzie and 61-year-old Greg Dunston. The two have been together for over ten years and have been homeless in Oakland for the last six years. Mckinzie had been in a 20 year battle to get disability income. Both believed a victory was right around the corner and they would be able to move into an apartment with the potential money—specifically the back money that would have come with a legal win. Taylor wrote the article about how Mckinzie’s claim was finally dismissed in September, ending their hopes of finding housing.

The story touched a wealthy Alameda County resident, Terrence McGrath. He owns a $4 million home in the very exclusive Piedmont, California. Reading about the middle-aged couple sleeping in a building doorway moved McGrath enough to make a courageous decision. McGrath decided to find the two and open his home up to them.

He’s being nice. OTOH:

For the past three months, the two have been living in McGrath’s home in Piedmont. Mckinzie has a limp and Dunston walks stooped over, and the two are black. They have also lived for no less than six years on the streets of Oakland without a home. Since the two have moved in, local police have been getting calls about two suspicious black people walking around Piedmont—frequently sitting at the bus stop, waiting for their bus. This was something that McGrath anticipated and had sent an email to the police chief Jeremy Bowers explaining the couple would be living with him, writing “I am letting you know in case Piedmont PD gets a call about an African American couple walking in the neighborhood around Hampton or La Salle.”

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Teukka  May 3, 2019 • 8:59:26am

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

rather rude photoshop

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jaunte  May 3, 2019 • 9:00:18am

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

The NRA board let Wayne LaPierre charge $440,000 to the “nonprofit,” $200,000 of which was for suits.

One of the most pathetic things about wealthy people like this is their horrible lack of imagination about how to spend their excess cash, even when it’s other people’s money.

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gwangung  May 3, 2019 • 9:00:35am

re: #281 Belafon

He’s being nice, but:

So….INFURIATING. Beckys still trying to police black people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2019 • 9:00:52am

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

Who the bloody hell needs that many suits??

manafort

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MsJ  May 3, 2019 • 9:01:20am
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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 9:02:48am

re: #286 MsJ

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makeitstop  May 3, 2019 • 9:02:54am

re: #252 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

The hearings we should be doing now will be preliminary to impeachment hearings proper. (Also too, the Watergate hearings — not impeachment hearings, as they were held in the Senate — started in May, and the nation was riveted. Summertime meant more free time to watch.)

True. But the difference here is that Nixon had already been re-elected. Trump will be campaigning for his second term.

I’d rather see Trump being peppered with questions about his taxes or what he told McGahn to do or Ivanka’s involvement on the campaign trail. He’d probably get so fed up and frustrated, he’d either go into bunker mode or stop campaigning altogether.

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2019 • 9:03:34am

Book title contest

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 9:04:25am

re: #289 gocart mozart

Book title contest

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Make America Groan Again

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ckkatz  May 3, 2019 • 9:06:10am

I got an email saying that the New York Times has turned off their paywall May 3-5. You will need to set up an account there, though.

I am reminded of the Lyrics to Tom Lehrer’s “The Old Dope Peddler”:

He gives the kids free samples
Because he knows full well
That today’s young innocent faces
Will be tomorrow’s clientele

In truth, beyond the mendacious coverage of the 2016 Democratic candidate, and the continuing disingenuous coverage of Trump, the NYT does have a lot to recommend it.

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MsJ  May 3, 2019 • 9:09:18am

re: #289 gocart mozart

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Scottish Dragon  May 3, 2019 • 9:11:07am
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ckkatz  May 3, 2019 • 9:11:47am

re: #10 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I remember Excel (and before that, Lotus 1-2-3) spreadsheets being really popular with MBA students in the 1980’s. Because it allowed them to model things on the fly.

Of course, a lot of what was modeled probably did not need to be. And probably shouldn’t have. But that did work itself out, eventually.

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Scottish Dragon  May 3, 2019 • 9:13:36am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 9:14:01am

re: #137 MsJ

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Ah, KKKollins the Queen Of The Phonies…

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Scottish Dragon  May 3, 2019 • 9:14:25am
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Hecuba's daughter  May 3, 2019 • 9:14:42am

The Trump adventure, however it ends, has demonstrated that our Constitution is a meaningless piece of paper if the President is corrupt and the Senate is in the hands of the same party as the President, and equally corrupt. There was a time when Senators were jealous of the power and thought of themselves as independent politicians whose role was to represent their state and actually have fealty to the Constitution. This has been totally abandoned. As Andrew Jackson is reported to have claimed when he was displeased with a SCOTUS ruling: “John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!” Jackson was limited because he did not have the obeisance of a thoroughly complicit Senate.

Hearings will do nothing to persuade any MAGAts to change their minds. The House Republicans will do their best to divert and shelter their lord and master and the population will see what they want to see.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 3, 2019 • 9:15:23am

re: #288 makeitstop

True. But the difference here is that Nixon had already been re-elected. Trump will be campaigning for his second term.

I’d rather see Trump being peppered with questions about his taxes or what he told McGahn to do or Ivanka’s involvement on the campaign trail. He’d probably get so fed up and frustrated, he’d either go into bunker mode or stop campaigning altogether.

After the summer hearings, the impeachment hearings would have started up in the fall. If Nixon hadn’t resigned first.

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jaunte  May 3, 2019 • 9:16:13am

re: #297 Scottish Dragon

That made me think of a title for a new song: “I’VE GOT JESUS ON CAPS LOCK.”

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Hecuba's daughter  May 3, 2019 • 9:17:27am

re: #299 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

After the summer hearings, the impeachment hearings would have started up in the fall. If Nixon hadn’t resigned first.

He resigned because there were Republicans with principles. Unfortunately, the last such one died August 25, 2018.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 3, 2019 • 9:18:00am

re: #301 Hecuba’s daughter

He resigned because there were Republicans with principles. Unfortunately, the last such one died August 25, 2018.

True, but completely not my point.

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DangerMan  May 3, 2019 • 9:19:02am

re: #248 MsJ

As someone who was unable to walk for four months last year and still have issues, I would sure love some help with this. My knees are shit so even my recumbent bike is a no go.

Thoughts or suggestions would be very welcome!!!

For me, low carb is the only way I can go. Like an alcoholic or someone with drug issues has to abstain from drink or drugs I have to completely not eat bread (or some other high carb foods) because I cannot stop. For me, I follow an ultra low carb diet (lazy keto) which consists of protein and mostly green veggies. I stay away from high glycemic veggies (sweet potatoes, beets, etc.) as well as bread, pasta, rice, etc. While many consider this a fad, for me it is the easiest way to eat, to make decisions and I do not feel I am giving up much of anything because steak and lobster as a nice little dinner always works for me.

People are used to the western way of eating (which helped put me in the position I am in) and once I gave up all the high carb fillers, I not only lost weight but I feel so much better. My guts are much happier.

under wraps cause it might be boring to everyone else

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jaunte  May 3, 2019 • 9:19:04am
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Scottish Dragon  May 3, 2019 • 9:19:38am
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gocart mozart  May 3, 2019 • 9:21:20am
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ckkatz  May 3, 2019 • 9:22:33am

re: #304 jaunte

Still amused that they stiffed the North Koreans for $2 million. I am sure that this really boosted the Administration’s credibility for the ongoing negotiations.

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Scottish Dragon  May 3, 2019 • 9:24:20am
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Scottish Dragon  May 3, 2019 • 9:25:01am

re: #306 gocart mozart

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Artist put serious curves on the girlfriend’s gams….

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DangerMan  May 3, 2019 • 9:28:13am

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

The NRA board let Wayne LaPierre charge $440,000 to the “nonprofit,” $200,000 of which was for suits.

Suits he bought in Beverly Hills. Oh, and trips.

LaPierre only makes $1.4 million a year off of your donations, as of 2017 — obvi not enough to buy one’s own suits.

the question is how did the NRA report that 200k on its 990 (non profit equiv of a tax return)

some kind of legitimate expense? of the NRA? really?
i wonder what operational program they allocated it to

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wrenchwench  May 3, 2019 • 9:28:41am

re: #309 Scottish Dragon

Artist put serious curves on the girlfriend’s gams….

She looks kinda kipled…

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2019 • 9:29:25am

re: #297 Scottish Dragon

I was reminded of this song

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ckkatz  May 3, 2019 • 9:29:35am

re: #124 Feline Fearless Leader

I had a Techie blast from the past yesterday. I got a “proxy server” error on my desktop suddenly. I had not seen one of those for probably 15 years.

So I went through my usual response with MS Windows. First, reboot the computer, reset the router and optical endpoint(FIOS).

Not because they would necessarily do anything for this specific problem, but because with MS-Win, it would likely clean up a bunch of Windows stuff. (Clear out buffers, force reload of the correct software libraries, etc.)

When everything came back and I was still getting the rror, I verified that all the browsers were failing with this error. I suddenly remembered what I had done years before. I went into the Windows settings and unchecked a single box. (“Use proxy server”.) Problem fixed.

Not sure how it suddenly got checked. I have not screwed with those settings for a year or more. And have not added new software for over a month. I am assuming that some MS Windows update did it because some junior programmer thought that (reasons).

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2019 • 9:31:37am

re: #289 gocart mozart

Book title contest

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Dr. Matt  May 3, 2019 • 9:31:54am

re: #21 ckkatz

From last thread:

IANAL, but, when I read that statement, I am hearing:

1) That the information that they gathered was from a Foreign Intelligence investigation rather than a Criminal investigation.

As I understand it, the purpose, rules, handling and expectations of the quality of the information associated with a Foreign Intelligence investigation are very different. And are not expected to meet the same standards as those used in a criminal investigation.

And

2) That if a criminal investigation were to occur, it is likely to uncover chargeable offenses, either in a criminal court or in an impeachment trial.

I read it as number 2. Nonetheless, Mueller needs to get to Congress to testify.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 3, 2019 • 9:33:29am

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

not your typical marching band routine

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How do we know that video is not sped up?

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DangerMan  May 3, 2019 • 9:33:40am

re: #313 ckkatz

I had a Techie blast from the past yesterday. I got a “proxy server” error on my desktop suddenly. I had not seen one of those for probably 15 years.

So I went through my usual response with MS Windows. First, reboot the computer, reset the router and optical endpoint(FIOS).

Not because they would necessarily do anything for this specific problem, but because with MS-Win, it would likely clean up a bunch of Windows stuff. (Clear out buffers, force reload of the correct software libraries, etc.)

When everything came back and I was still getting the rror, I verified that all the browsers were failing with this error. I suddenly remembered what I had done years before. I went into the Windows settings and unchecked a single box. (“Use proxy server”.) Problem fixed.

Not sure how it suddenly got checked. I have not screwed with those settings for a year or more. And have not added new software for over a month. I am assuming that some MS Windows update did it because some junior programmer thought that (reasons).

happened here too last week (at&t uverse)

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  May 3, 2019 • 9:35:40am

re: #316 The Vicious Babushka

How do we know that video is not sped up?

I think it had to have been sped up. If you look at the sidelines, the crowds are moving at the same speed as the band is, which is impossible.

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wrenchwench  May 3, 2019 • 9:35:53am

re: #313 ckkatz

I am assuming that some MS Windows update did it because some junior programmer thought that (reasons).

Maybe it was MR. Windows update.

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TedStriker  May 3, 2019 • 9:36:02am

re: #316 The Vicious Babushka

How do we know that video is not sped up?

It is sped up, but I think the point of the video is the precision with which the band completes that complicated routine.

I was definitely impressed, that many people on the field, playing large, unwieldy instruments, pulling a routine like that off.

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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 9:37:39am

re: #313 ckkatz

I had a Techie blast from the past yesterday. I got a “proxy server” error on my desktop suddenly. I had not seen one of those for probably 15 years.

So I went through my usual response with MS Windows. First, reboot the computer, reset the router and optical endpoint(FIOS).

Not because they would necessarily do anything for this specific problem, but because with MS-Win, it would likely clean up a bunch of Windows stuff. (Clear out buffers, force reload of the correct software libraries, etc.)

When everything came back and I was still getting the rror, I verified that all the browsers were failing with this error. I suddenly remembered what I had done years before. I went into the Windows settings and unchecked a single box. (“Use proxy server”.) Problem fixed.

Not sure how it suddenly got checked. I have not screwed with those settings for a year or more. And have not added new software for over a month. I am assuming that some MS Windows update did it because some junior programmer thought that (reasons).

I’ve seen some non-Microsoft apps do that, because they’re being “helpful.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 9:38:36am

re: #276 jaunte

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Don’t forget that he’s also Slumlord Sean!

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DangerMan  May 3, 2019 • 9:39:50am

how many times has trump said “do it, if you get arrested i’ll pay your court costs” or “do it and i’ll pardon you” (manafort and probably others)

he may have also done this with barr, and there’s semi-serious talk about impeaching barr

he’s been AG LESS THAN THREE MONTHS

we all know what the pardon power was created for
and we see how it’s being used:

‘i know it’s illegal, *and* if you get caught, i’ll get you out of it’

and they’re all good with this as they sit idly by and watch

at least we’re finally seeing a few articles with “you can’t pardon yourself out of the crimes that got you the pardon power”

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jaunte  May 3, 2019 • 9:41:50am
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ckkatz  May 3, 2019 • 9:43:07am

re: #317 DangerMan

happened here too last week (at&t uverse)

Good to know that I was not singled out in getting the finger from the fickle finger of fate.

I suspect that there are a whole bunch of unhappy folks because of the unintended consequences of one person’s bad decision. I wonder what the total cost to the economy of diagnosing and fixing this is.

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ckkatz  May 3, 2019 • 9:44:01am

re: #319 wrenchwench

Maybe it was MR. Windows update.

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jaunte  May 3, 2019 • 9:44:17am
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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 9:45:05am

re: #328 jaunte

Next quarter’s profit.

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jaunte  May 3, 2019 • 9:46:00am
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goddamnedfrank  May 3, 2019 • 9:48:23am
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Scottish Dragon  May 3, 2019 • 9:48:37am

re: #331 The Vicious Babushka

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He really wants to call her an “uppity ni*clang!*…”

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William Lewis  May 3, 2019 • 9:49:39am

re: #297 Scottish Dragon

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Anyone so insecure in their faith as that one is pretty much hopeless.

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William Lewis  May 3, 2019 • 9:50:27am

re: #300 jaunte

That made me think of a title for a new song: “I’VE GOT JESUS ON CAPS LOCK.”

I saw a punchline last night of ‘My Pickup Truck is my Therapist” as a country song title.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 9:51:35am

re: #331 The Vicious Babushka

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Folks please report Dickhead David Wohl’s tweet because I can’t.

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DangerMan  May 3, 2019 • 9:52:14am

re: #326 ckkatz

Good to know that I was not singled out in getting the finger from the fickle finger of fate.

I suspect that there are a whole bunch of unhappy folks because of the unintended consequences of one person’s bad decision. I wonder what the total cost to the economy of diagnosing and fixing this is.

in my case it crept along
first it was an android phone (and like you it had been so long that i forgot what to do..)
then an android tablet
then another android phone
then finally a windows 7 and windows 10 desktop

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 9:52:35am

re: #300 jaunte

That made me think of a title for a new song: “I’VE GOT JESUS ON CAPS LOCK.”

No, it’s got STUPID in Caps Lock.

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Mattand  May 3, 2019 • 9:52:39am

re: #315 Dr. Matt

I read it as number 2. Nonetheless, Mueller needs to get to Congress to testify.

In all honesty, what good is that going to do at this point? I was listening to Bob Cesca’s podcast the other day, and he brought up something I’d been thinking for a while: that the Muller report is wishy-washy bullshit.

This is why I’m so sick of hearing what an “honorable, patriotic, holy man of honor” Muller is. Someone like that wouldn’t be pulling the whole “Well, I’m not not saying there was obstruction” garbage in the report that Muller is. IIRC, Cesca nailed the problem perfectly: Muller prepared this report as if this was a relatively normal policital environment, where Republicans have some inkling for the respect of law.

This is far from the case, and Muller is not stupid. Which always leaves me coming back to these ideas:

1) He is a typical modern Republican who puts party and power over country, and purposely fuzzed the report to protect Trump.

2) He is so rigid in regards to following the rules, his attitude is “I did everything by the book, and if this allows Trump and McConnell to turn the US into an autocracy/dictatorship, well, whaddya gonna do? I’m safe.”

3) He is genuinely and hopelessly naive and thinks his fellow Republicans will go “OMG, we were so wrong about Trump! We’ve got to do the right thing for the sake of the country!”

I don’t see any benefit to Muller testifying. He should, but I think it’ll be a corralary of what Barr did: a lot of shoulder shrugging and going “Yeah, the US is turning into Turkey or Russia, shruggie emoticon LOL.”

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DangerMan  May 3, 2019 • 9:53:28am

re: #328 jaunte

This is what kills me about GOP compliance in this moment.

Russia’s goal is not a permanent Republican majority. Russia’s goal is a weak United States.

So what the hell is the GOP end game here??

get as much as they can as fast as they can because they’ll never have to give it back

oh, and they dont give a damn about the future

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ckkatz  May 3, 2019 • 9:55:19am

re: #332 goddamnedfrank

I am just thinking back to the DnD groups I was in back in the 1970’s. Not only were there no ladies in it back then, but any guy that actually did have a girlfriend was not going to spend his time on DnD.

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DangerMan  May 3, 2019 • 9:57:00am

re: #331 The Vicious Babushka

.@KamalaHarris really comes off as a disrespectful bitch.

And that’s being kind.

THIS is what I was referring to upthread
re: #225 DangerMan about ideas standing on their own merit

take the transcript of the harris/ barr interaction
remove the names

hand it to this bozo and he never would have used the word ‘bitch’
likely not even ‘disrespectful’

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jaunte  May 3, 2019 • 9:58:47am
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ckkatz  May 3, 2019 • 10:02:17am

re: #337 DangerMan

in my case it crept along
first it was an android phone (and like you it had been so long that i forgot what to do..)
then an android tablet
then another android phone
then finally a windows 7 and windows 10 desktop

Sorry that you had to deal with the “creeping death” of your various tech devices.

It sounds like you do what I do. When one device stops working, go to the pile of older devices and pick up a different one.

And it sounds like Belafon was correct, then. That the problem was a non Microsoft software update. Possibly a browser?

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William Lewis  May 3, 2019 • 10:02:33am

re: #341 ckkatz

I am just thinking back to the DnD groups I was in back in the 1970’s. Not only were there no ladies in it back then, but any guy that actually did have a girlfriend was not going to spend his time on DnD.

Interesting. Early 80’s all my D&D groups had mixed gender and we’d all hang together both for gaming and partying. Some of the girls were there just to be able to be with their SO but some were there for the game. Champions worked well that way too.

Had more trouble finding players for Traveller or Runequest.

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lawhawk  May 3, 2019 • 10:04:43am
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DangerMan  May 3, 2019 • 10:06:09am

re: #344 ckkatz

Sorry that you had to deal with the “creeping death” of your various tech devices.

It sounds like you do what I do. When one device stops working, go to the pile of older devices and pick up a different one.

And it sounds like Belafon was correct, then. That the problem was a non Microsoft software update. Possibly a browser?

chrome across the board here
home page google was fine. even the searching worked. but none of the links.

and on the phones, i couldnt get some individual apps to connect - some did, some didnt

there was a lot of swearing here last week

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 3, 2019 • 10:06:33am

re: #343 jaunte

“FBI sent an attractive female investigator calling herself Azra Turk to London to probe Trump campaign links to Russia”

INVESTIGATOR NEEDED FOR SPECIAL OVERSEAS PROJECT

- No prior experience needed
- Must be under 30 and have slim figure
- Lighter skin tones preferred.
- Must be fluent in Russian
- Resemblance to Ivanka Trump a Plus

349
HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 10:08:25am

They had every right to investigate his campaign.

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retired cynic  May 3, 2019 • 10:09:33am

re: #79 MsJ

I am a hair away from 100 pound loss. I plan on going another 80. I want to be the oldest Kate Moss out there (and the least amount of weight on this knee the better. I am walking again [fairly well, at that] and I am doing everything in my power to keep moving under my own power. It’s a shame it took having this horrible injury to take control. But I am thankful it wasn’t a heart attack or stroke.)

Keto fucking rocks.

You are my hero. I have 100 pound goal, and am 40 pounds on the way…

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DangerMan  May 3, 2019 • 10:10:48am

re: #346 lawhawk

Breaking news: A 3-judge panel struck down Ohio’s congressional map, saying it is so excessively gerrymandered to benefit Republicans that it violates the U.S. Constitution.

this of course is good news for the future

and yet re: #340 DangerMan

they won all those elections since
they got their legislation and judges

and none of that gets undone after the courts basically said, “you cheated”

352
The Vicious Babushka  May 3, 2019 • 10:10:49am

JFC

353
jaunte  May 3, 2019 • 10:11:12am
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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 10:13:09am

re: #352 The Vicious Babushka

JFC

[Embedded content]

He’s completely fine with what Russia did because it benefited him. The evidence is right there in plain sight. Traitorous pig.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 10:13:40am

re: #353 jaunte

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Who else will he bend over backwards for Vlad? Fucking Putin enabler.

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jaunte  May 3, 2019 • 10:13:44am

A traitor AND a chickenshit.

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jaunte  May 3, 2019 • 10:14:31am
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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 10:14:38am

re: #356 jaunte

[Embedded content]

A traitor AND a chickenshit.

I wouldn’t be shocked if he “jokingly” asked Vlad if there was a way he could rid himself of this meddlesome Mueller. The motherfucker is owned by Putin.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 10:15:29am

re: #357 jaunte

[Embedded content]

That’s because they welcomed the Russian help every step in the way. Trump doesn’t think he did anything wrong.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 10:17:06am

Bad enough he won’t acknowledge the Russian interference was to his benefit but he has as far as I have seen won’t even acknowledge that there was Russian interference. Even his hackjob AG Barr acknowledges that.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2019 • 10:17:53am

Thread, 15 16 tweets and growing

Unthreaded tweet

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Charles Johnson  May 3, 2019 • 10:18:10am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 3, 2019 • 10:18:36am

re: #358 HappyWarrior

I wouldn’t be shocked if he “jokingly” asked Vlad if there was a way he could rid himself of this meddlesome Mueller. The motherfucker is owned by Putin.

Yeah, imagine if Mueller “mysteriously disappeared” just before he was due to testify?

364
HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 10:20:01am

re: #362 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Why any liberal or even leftist thinks this self-righteous asshole is an ally or friend to the left is beyond to me.

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Scottish Dragon  May 3, 2019 • 10:20:05am

re: #341 ckkatz

I am just thinking back to the DnD groups I was in back in the 1970’s. Not only were there no ladies in it back then, but any guy that actually did have a girlfriend was not going to spend his time on DnD.

Plenty of female role playing stuff now, but it tends to veer away from hacknslash.

366
HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 10:20:32am

re: #363 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah, imagine if Mueller “mysteriously disappeared” just before he was due to testify?

I don’t think it would happen but I bet Trump wishes he could make that happen.

367
Scottish Dragon  May 3, 2019 • 10:22:00am

re: #364 HappyWarrior

Why any liberal or even leftist thinks this self-righteous asshole is an ally or friend to the left is beyond to me.

Greenwald is a Jacobin.
He would be first in line to ring the tocsin bell and lead the sans culottes to grab the impure and bring them before the tribunals.

368
jaunte  May 3, 2019 • 10:23:35am
369
HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 10:23:52am

re: #367 Scottish Dragon

Greenwald is a Jacobin.
He would be first in line to ring the tocsin bell and lead the sans culottes to grab the impure and bring them before the tribunals.

Nah he’s a chickenshit. That’s why he hides out in Brazil. Not knocking Ex-Pats but Greenwald is a genuine chickenshit of a man.

370
HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 10:24:30am

God I would love to know what Vlad and his cronies say about Trump. They probably never dreamed that we would ever elect someone this pathetic.

371
jaunte  May 3, 2019 • 10:24:56am
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jaunte  May 3, 2019 • 10:25:45am
373
gocart mozart  May 3, 2019 • 10:26:48am
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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 10:26:52am

re: #371 jaunte

[Embedded content]

And this is what I mean when I try to point out how uniquely awful Trump is. Yes, Bush, Reagan, and Nixon were awful Presidents but their awfulness wasn’t done to appease a hostile foreign power that wants a weakened United States. And there is a difference.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 10:27:45am

re: #372 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Yeah no big deal, just the President of the United States discussing with a foreign leader- a hostile one at that whether he should let his former WH Counsel testify. These motherfuckers are selling us out in plain sight.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 10:28:57am

re: #373 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

There’s a reason why you were the inspiration for Officer Barbrady, Dennis. Sit down and shut the fuck up, you propagandist piece of shit. People like you are destroying this country with your fraudulent bullshit designed to appease a bunch of whiners who can’t accept demographic and political changes.

377
Scottish Dragon  May 3, 2019 • 10:30:06am

re: #369 HappyWarrior

Nah he’s a chickenshit. That’s why he hides out in Brazil. Not knocking Ex-Pats but Greenwald is a genuine chickenshit of a man.

Many of the Jacobins were ‘chickenshits’.

Jacques Herbert was a prime example. First to call for mass executions…screamed like a child as he had his own turn to be kissed on the neck by Mme Guillotine.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 10:32:45am

re: #377 Scottish Dragon

Many of the Jacobins were ‘chickenshits’.

Jacques Herbert was a prime example. First to call for mass executions…screamed like a child as he had his own turn to be kissed on the neck by Mme Guillotine.

Ah true. I must admit I’m not well versed in the French Revolution as I ought to be which is funny since it’s the catalyst for so much of the history I have studied and am most interested in.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2019 • 10:33:06am

re: #361 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Thread, 15 16 tweets and growing

[Embedded content]

Related

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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 10:33:25am

re: #351 DangerMan

this of course is good news for the future

and yet

they won all those elections since
they got their legislation and judges

and none of that gets undone after the courts basically said, “you cheated”

None of that get’s disappeared. A functioning legislature can fix that, and not continue it.

381
HappyWarrior  May 3, 2019 • 10:34:41am

re: #379 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Related

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Yeah because O’Keefe and his friends are morons. But that’s pretty disturbing. Prince is a military fascist who I think dreams of a Junta for our country. Both him and his sister are truly awful people.

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William Lewis  May 3, 2019 • 10:36:26am

re: #371 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Must have been time for Trumps 6 month performance review. Did your boss give you a good review Donny Littlehands?

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ckkatz  May 3, 2019 • 10:39:50am

re: #347 DangerMan

chrome across the board here
home page google was fine. even the searching worked. but none of the links.

and on the phones, i couldnt get some individual apps to connect - some did, some didnt

there was a lot of swearing here last week

The swearing thing was happening here too.

I primarily use FireFox.

But keep Chrome as the back up. I just assumed that Chrome hardcoded the google home page. That displayed correctly, but when it went to the search page with a search, it was failing.

I have not (yet… anyway) trouble with my android cell phone. But I suspect that I will need to look into it based on your information. Did you end resetting a proxy page there as well? Were you connecting via cell tower or via wifi?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 10:48:52am

re: #373 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

Coming from the bigot who endlessly trashed Maxine Waters when he spat out his hate on KABC.

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2019 • 10:52:28am
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Feline Fearless Leader  May 3, 2019 • 11:15:36am

re: #301 Hecuba’s daughter

He resigned because there were Republicans with principles. Unfortunately, the last such one died August 25, 2018.

I disagree with that. McCain’s principles only ran from his brain to his mouth. They only reached beyond that to his voting hand once or twice. (The healthcare vote being the primary exception.) Otherwise when the votes were counted he was lockstep with the GOP and pretty much providing cover for Trump and the GOP since the latter are simply less vocal and overt in their racism and corruption.

(And I also was a contractor with the FSLIC back in the late 1980s. When McCain was neck-deep in it with the Keating 5.)

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retired cynic  May 3, 2019 • 2:32:06pm

re: #152 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Yes. Graphical Analysis was a neat little program I used for my high school classes. It could calculate several kinds of best data fits and generate both data tables and graphs with ease. More advanced scientific work requires beefier software, maybe even FORTRAN, which still a thing.

Fortran! You are speaking my language!


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