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Charles Johnson  May 3, 2019 • 6:15:00pm
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Charles Johnson  May 3, 2019 • 6:17:05pm

Really missing CuriousLurker tonight. She brought something special to LGF, and there’s a hole where she used to be.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 6:17:27pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

So weird that people still have this image of LGF as a hotbed of anti-Muslim sentiment. That shit was like 15 years ago!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 3, 2019 • 6:18:11pm

re: #3 teleskiguy

So weird that people still have this image of LGF as a hotbed of anti-Muslim sentiment. That shit was like 15 years ago!

People who were kicked out years ago and still hold resentment. It’s not that they think of us that way, they want to portray us that way.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 6:19:01pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Aminah, peace be upon her. I really miss her, too. She taught me a lot of things about saying and doing things on the internet. And we had a good time joking with each other on Twitter.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 3, 2019 • 6:19:35pm

Bloody hell!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 3, 2019 • 6:20:34pm

re: #6 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Bloody hell!

But it’s too soon to talk about gun control or mental health coverage.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 6:22:02pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 3, 2019 • 6:23:21pm

re: #7 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

But it’s too soon to talk about gun control or mental health coverage.

It’s no accident that the Putin influence machine is so cozy with the NRA. They want us to kill each other off. Wayne LaPierre is a traitor and a monster.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 3, 2019 • 6:24:07pm

re: #9 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

It’s no accident that the Putin influence machine is so cozy with the NRA. They want us to kill each other off. Wayne LaPierre is a traitor and a monster.

Ugh. The guy looked like a slimy dickweasel even when I was pro-NRA. Now that I want to utterly destroy the whole organization, he’s basically a mass murderer.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 3, 2019 • 6:24:58pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Really missing CuriousLurker tonight. She brought something special to LGF, and there’s a hole where she used to be.

Yes indeed. Among other things she taught me how to take down the Islamophobes on the internet. Absolutely made me a better blogger by calling me out on some bullshit from time to time. And we made encouraged one another each other to be better photographers.

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bd (Emergency!)  May 3, 2019 • 6:26:47pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Really missing CuriousLurker tonight. She brought something special to LGF, and there’s a hole where she used to be.

Us too Charles, us too.

I think that CL would be horribly bored and distressed over the quality of the right wing trolling of this country.

Used to be a time when our opposition would try and hide their ignorance and racism and outing them actually helped expose the cause.

Now, no one cares that the flat-earth embracing, climate change denying, anti-vaccinating, racist, anti-non-approved Christian, ancient alien believing, democracy hating, fascist cheering, amoralistic, generally stupid ass bigoted hicks run the country anymore.

CL is missing what I hope is the worst of it.

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Charles Johnson  May 3, 2019 • 6:26:47pm

I really like both Conor Oberst and Phoebe Bridgers on their own, but I’m just not feeling their duo project. I mean, come on. Two great voices singing everything in unison?

Unison’s cool and everything. But not all the way through every damned song.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 6:27:33pm

re: #10 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ugh. The guy looked like a slimy dickweasel even when I was pro-NRA. Now that I want to utterly destroy the whole organization, he’s basically a mass murderer.

Must be nice to have a $400K annual clothing allowance.

Meanwhile I buy off the racks at Penney’s…

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 6:28:07pm

This has been up for a week or so, Kragar’s been retweeting this everyday. Went to the site, and no one had donated yet! So I put up a C-note. First GoFundMe where I’m the very first donor!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 3, 2019 • 6:28:51pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

I really like both Conor Oberst and Phoebe Bridgers on their own, but I’m just not feeling their duo project. I mean, come on. Two great voices singing everything in unison?

Unison’s cool and everything. But not all the way through every damned song.

Preach it. Gotta have some harmony in there. Plus, it makes it harder for a sound guy if I have to blend two people singing the same notes all the time.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 6:31:18pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

Correction: It’s been up for *two* weeks.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 6:31:34pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

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This has been up for a week or so, Kragar’s been retweeting this everyday. Went to the site, and no one had donated yet! So I put up a C-note. First GoFundMe where I’m the very first donor!

I put $25 in the till for his daughter.

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bd (Emergency!)  May 3, 2019 • 6:31:47pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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Always astonished how the people always demanding apologies are the people who are least likely to accept one.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 6:33:31pm

Left hanging on the last thread because y’all moved on without me:

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

re: #361 Anymouse 🌹

Thank goodness Nebraska doesn’t exist any more. /s

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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 6:35:28pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

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This has been up for a week or so, Kragar’s been retweeting this everyday. Went to the site, and no one had donated yet! So I put up a C-note. First GoFundMe where I’m the very first donor!

He should swing by and post this stuff. Donating right now.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 3, 2019 • 6:39:40pm

Our corporate tax structure is socialist. When will Republicans stick it to those socialists?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 3, 2019 • 6:40:16pm

re: #22 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

Our corporate tax structure is socialist. When will Republicans stick it to those socialists?

Ugh. Mike Pence, that fucking asshole. So disappointed that he is going to speak at my alma mater’s commencement.

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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 6:40:35pm

re: #22 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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Our corporate tax structure is socialist. When will Republicans stick it to those socialists?

I think we should label that fascist.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 3, 2019 • 6:41:27pm

My good news.

My daughter applied to a bunch of graduate schools (Master of Public Health). She just got accepted to her number one choice: Yale. But that’s not even the best part. She called up the dean and asked for more scholarship $. They doubled the original offer. Another great part of the program is that since she is interested in law and health she gets to take a few courses at Yale Law School (my ex and I both joked that she is going to meet her future husband there). Anyway I’m a proud dad and things like this keep me going. Did I mention my daughter got into Yale.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 3, 2019 • 6:42:39pm

re: #25 I Would Prefer Not To

My good news.

My daughter applied to a bunch of graduate schools (Master of Public Health). She just got accepted to her number one choice: Yale. But that’s not even the best part. She called up the dean and asked for more scholarship $. They doubled the original offer. Another great part of the program is that since she is interested in law and health she gets to take a few courses at Yale Law School (my ex and I both joked that she is going to meet her future husband there). Anyway I’m a proud dad and things like this keep me going. Did I mention my daughter got into Yale.

That’s so amazing! Congratulations, you have every right to be proud.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 6:44:24pm

re: #23 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ugh. Mike Pence, that fucking asshole. So disappointed that he is going to speak at my alma mater’s commencement.

That blows donkey balls. At my father’s graduation when he got his PhD at Denver University, Gail Norton - Secretary of the Interior under G.W. Bush - spoke. She talked about “healthy forests initiatives” to prevent wildfires. Basically she was like “we need to ramp up logging big time, no trees, no fire!” It was pretty stupid, I could see my pops’ eyes roll to the back of his head a few times while she spoke.

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sagehen  May 3, 2019 • 6:45:17pm

re: #14 Joe Bacon 🌹

Must be nice to have a $400K annual clothing allowance.

Meanwhile I buy off the racks at Penney’s…

TPM usually sticks to politics and policy, but they had one human interest story years ago that I remember fondly.

Jack Abramoff was an exceptionally large man. Like, almost fat-retired-NBA player size. Which is why he wore bespoke suits from a specialty DC tailor.

When he was sent to prison… a dozen of his suits were at the tailor shop, almost finished and partially paid for.

TPM had a reader who by happy coincidence was EXACTLY THE RIGHT SIZE. He was also to buy all those suits for about 10% of their usual price. He was so very, very pleased… especially since he was of an income bracket that can usually only buy one or two suits a year at the Big & Tall Shop.

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makeitstop  May 3, 2019 • 6:45:20pm

re: #25 I Would Prefer Not To

My good news.

My daughter applied to a bunch of graduate schools (Master of Public Health). She just got accepted to her number one choice: Yale. But that’s not even the best part. She called up the dean and asked for more scholarship $. They doubled the original offer. Another great part of the program is that since she is interested in law and health she gets to take a few courses at Yale Law School (my ex and I both joked that she is going to meet her future husband there). Anyway I’m a proud dad and things like this keep me going. Did I mention my daughter got into Yale.

That’s great news! Congratulations to both you and your daughter.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 6:45:52pm

plz rload #27, it’s not Gail Collins, she a columnist, it’s Gale Norton.

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wrenchwench  May 3, 2019 • 6:45:56pm

re: #25 I Would Prefer Not To

Did you say Yale?!?!

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 3, 2019 • 6:46:09pm

re: #26 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s so amazing! Congratulations, you have every right to be proud.

Thanks. I’m looking forward to visiting. I’ve heard the pizza is good.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 3, 2019 • 6:46:22pm

re: #27 teleskiguy

That blows donkey balls. At my father’s graduation when he got his PhD at Denver University, Gail Collins - Secretary of the Interior under G.W. Bush - spoke. She talked about “healthy forests initiatives” to prevent wildfires. Basically she was like “we need to ramp up logging big time, no trees, no fire!” It was pretty stupid, I could see my pops’ eyes roll to the back of his head a few times while she spoke.

The thing is, there’s actually been a big uproar about this. Years ago, former Indiana Senator Evan Bayh was invited. There was a big kerfluffle, and he wound up not speaking (it’s unclear to me whether he declined the invite or it was revoked). Despite the huge backlash from alumni across the country, the university administration has steadfastly backed the Vice President, and I can honestly say I’m kind of ashamed to be a graduate right now.

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sagehen  May 3, 2019 • 6:47:47pm

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹

Left hanging on the last thread because y’all moved on without me:

He doesn’t question Nebraska’s existence; but Ben Sasse has furrowed his brow in disapproval, and even said a few uncomplimentary things out loud. Therefore, Nebraska is no longer entitled to FEMA assistance.

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sagehen  May 3, 2019 • 6:50:41pm

re: #22 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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Our corporate tax structure is socialist. When will Republicans stick it to those socialists?

The Fire Department is super-socialist. Same for interstate highways, federally-subsidized insurance for nuclear power plants, reduced-price grazing fees on public land and low-low-low royalty rates for mining on federal land.

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sagehen  May 3, 2019 • 6:51:34pm

re: #25 I Would Prefer Not To

My good news.

My daughter applied to a bunch of graduate schools (Master of Public Health). She just got accepted to her number one choice: Yale. But that’s not even the best part. She called up the dean and asked for more scholarship $. They doubled the original offer. Another great part of the program is that since she is interested in law and health she gets to take a few courses at Yale Law School (my ex and I both joked that she is going to meet her future husband there). Anyway I’m a proud dad and things like this keep me going. Did I mention my daughter got into Yale.

SHE’S RORY GILMORE!!

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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 6:52:43pm

re: #27 teleskiguy

That blows donkey balls. At my father’s graduation when he got his PhD at Denver University, Gail Norton - Secretary of the Interior under G.W. Bush - spoke. She talked about “healthy forests initiatives” to prevent wildfires. Basically she was like “we need to ramp up logging big time, no trees, no fire!” It was pretty stupid, I could see my pops’ eyes roll to the back of his head a few times while she spoke.

No free oxygen would definitely end all fires.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 6:52:54pm

re: #25 I Would Prefer Not To

Congradumalashuns to your daughter! I hope she does well at Yale.

You may now commence bragging.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 3, 2019 • 6:54:02pm

re: #37 Belafon

No free oxygen would definitely end all fires.

Fun fact: All living creatures are, technically, on fire. Granted, for 99.999% of them it is a very slow-burning fire, but we are consuming oxygen to produce energy.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 6:54:24pm

re: #35 sagehen

The Fire Department is super-socialist. Same for interstate highways, federally-subsidized insurance for nuclear power plants, reduced-price grazing fees on public land and low-low-low royalty rates for mining on federal land.

Oh, but lolbitarians just love their “muh roads” memes. (Check Google Image Search.)

There is a whole lot of dumb there.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 6:55:28pm

Orange fuckmook is watching TV.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 3, 2019 • 6:55:58pm

re: #41 teleskiguy

Orange fuckmook is watching TV.

It’s Friday night, which means only one thing: He’s leaving for Florida in the morning.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2019 • 6:57:27pm

Well, the good news is he’s only a PFC, so his scope of influence would normally be significantly reduced

“… “Imagine if young SS members and Hitler youth were given free range by Hitler to go into the country and root out all the old aristocrats (who by in large betrayed the Nazis) and all the old way of thinking,” Carver allegedly wrote in one message. “Would have been great.”

In another message, Carver allegedly wrote that it “would be a nice great thing” if “all the Jews disappeared tomorrow.”

In June 2017, Carver allegedly wrote that Dylann Roof — the white supremacist who massacred nine black worshippers at a Charleston, South Carolina, church — was “kinda low tier lol. Shooting up a geriatrics in a church is soft target shit, the reasoning and action isn’t bad.”

Carver also allegedly posted about his service in the military. “First sergeants are officially all homosexual Jews who will die during the revolution,” he wrote.

Three days before that message, he appeared to make another chilling statement.

“Soldiers, criminals and workers make the best Nazis,” he allegedly wrote. “Just a fact.” …”

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 6:57:28pm

This is fine.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 6:58:37pm

re: #33 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The thing is, there’s actually been a big uproar about this. Years ago, former Indiana Senator Evan Bayh was invited. There was a big kerfluffle, and he wound up not speaking (it’s unclear to me whether he declined the invite or it was revoked). Despite the huge backlash from alumni across the country, the university administration has steadfastly backed the Vice President, and I can honestly say I’m kind of ashamed to be a graduate right now.

The outrage needs to be accompanied by alumni telling the university “well, we guess you don’t need our endowments to the university then.” Without that, if the chancellor wants the VP, he’ll get the VP.

It would be wonderful if the majority of the student body walked out of the graduation ceremony on television.

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Charles Johnson  May 3, 2019 • 6:58:56pm
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Unshaken Defiance  May 3, 2019 • 6:59:58pm

re: #39 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Fun fact: All living creatures are, technically, on fire. Granted, for 99.999% of them it is a very slow-burning fire, but we are consuming oxygen to produce energy.

And Rust Never Sleeps

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 3, 2019 • 7:00:48pm

re: #45 Anymouse 🌹

The outrage needs to be accompanied by alumni telling the university “well, we guess you don’t need our endowments to the university then.” Without that, if the chancellor wants the VP, he’ll get the VP.

It would be wonderful if the majority of the student body walked out of the graduation ceremony on television.

I don’t know what will happen here. Because the majority of the alumni and students are “God-fearing Christians”, and because the popular perception is that Mike Pence is a “good Christian man” (Narrator: He is not.), I doubt that will happen. Obviously, commencement is too close for plans to change, and the Vice President will speak as the administration intended. The long-term consequences may yet be significant, but we will see.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 7:03:35pm

All 13 of King Crimson’s albums are available for streaming on Apple Music.

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Charles Johnson  May 3, 2019 • 7:06:30pm
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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 7:09:05pm

Meanwhile here in Nebraska:

Police cite Lincoln man who they say dropped gun, shot himself in the genitals (Lincoln Journal-Star)

It was a .22 pistol. The police arrested him for a prohibited person in possession of a weapon (felony) and illegal discharge of a firearm within the city limits (misdemeanour).

His name is Peter.

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DodgerFan1988  May 3, 2019 • 7:14:47pm

This man is evil.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 7:20:20pm

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹

Meanwhile here in Nebraska:

Police cite Lincoln man who they say dropped gun, shot himself in the genitals (Lincoln Journal-Star)

It was a .22 pistol. The police arrested him for a prohibited person in possession of a weapon (felony) and illegal discharge of a firearm within the city limits (misdemeanour).

His name is Peter.

We done got us another Darwin Award winner!

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 7:23:46pm

re: #53 Joe Bacon 🌹

We done got us another Darwin Award winner!

If he’s rendered sterile, then yes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 7:24:49pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

If he’s rendered sterile, then yes.

His Ding won’t Dong any more…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2019 • 7:25:21pm

re: #44 teleskiguy

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 3, 2019 • 7:26:01pm

re: #53 Joe Bacon 🌹

We done got us another Darwin Award winner!

The headline on Fark read, “Darwin just doesn’t give awards to the dead” or something similar.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 7:26:36pm

re: #56 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Fat chance that happens. Tweetler is dumping in his Depends right now while Vlad and his pals crack open another case of champagne.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 3, 2019 • 7:27:51pm

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹

Meanwhile here in Nebraska:

Police cite Lincoln man who they say dropped gun, shot himself in the genitals (Lincoln Journal-Star)

It was a .22 pistol. The police arrested him for a prohibited person in possession of a weapon (felony) and illegal discharge of a firearm within the city limits (misdemeanour).

His name is Peter.

Peter Stump perhaps?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 7:28:22pm

re: #57 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The headline on Fark read, “Darwin just doesn’t give awards to the dead” or something similar.

My favorite Darwin Award winner was the guy who was controlling a fireworks show, he tried to set off a charge, it didn’t fire so he looked into the tube to see why it didn’t shoot…you can guess the rest…

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Charles Johnson  May 3, 2019 • 7:29:29pm
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allegro  May 3, 2019 • 7:30:22pm

re: #28 sagehen

Jack Abramoff was an exceptionally large man. Like, almost fat-retired-NBA player size. Which is why he wore bespoke suits from a specialty DC tailor.

Until about maybe 6 months ago I can’t recall ever seeing this word used anywhere but old timey texts, and never in normal every-day conversation. In the last few months I’ve seen/heard it all over the place - this is the second time today I’ve seen it here. I even talked about it to a friend (a retired professional writer) a while back and he agreed that this is not a word he has ever seen commonly used before in his lifetime.

Is it just me?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 7:31:04pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

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My brainwashed Jesusbot relatives endlessly utter the same shit. And they keep insisting that Trump will arrest Hillary, Obama, Pelosi, Maxine and AOC over Pizzagate.

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Teukka  May 3, 2019 • 7:31:18pm

re: #57 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The headline on Fark read, “Darwin just doesn’t give awards to the dead” or something similar.

IIRC, the definition of a Darwin AwardTM is an individual who has supposedly contributed to human evolution by selecting him- or herself out of the gene pool via death or sterilization by his or her own actions, and an “at-risk survivor” is someone who has narrowly evaded sterilization or death by actions which if successfully having lead to sterilization or death would’ve incurred a Darwin AwardTM.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 7:32:50pm

re: #64 Teukka

IIRC, the definition of a Darwin AwardTM is an individual who has supposedly contributed to human evolution by selecting him- or herself out of the gene pool via death or sterilization by his or her own actions, and an “at-risk survivor” is someone who has narrowly evaded sterilization or death by actions which if successfully leading to sterilization or death would’ve incurred a Darwin AwardTM.

Like the West Virginia Pulpit Pimp Pastor who drank a cup of strychnine to prove his faith in JC…and 2 minutes later doing the Led Zeppelin Stairway To Heaven shit…

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 7:33:40pm

Mozilla just disabled a bunch of my add-ons, saying they do not comport to the new API in Firefox.

Going to the add-on manager, it now appears that Mozilla’s site is down.

Thanks guys.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 3, 2019 • 7:34:12pm

re: #60 Joe Bacon 🌹

My favorite Darwin Award winner was the guy who was controlling a fireworks show, he tried to set off a charge, it didn’t fire so he looked over the tube to see why it didn’t shoot…you can guess the rest…

I’m a professionally trained fireworks operator. I can tell you what would have happened if that guy had been on my show. In short: If the misfiring shell didn’t kill him, I would have.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 7:35:31pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

Hmm. Stinger missiles in the hands of al-Queda. I seem to remember that from the Reagan Administration.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 3, 2019 • 7:35:50pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 3, 2019 • 7:36:15pm

re: #67 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

FYI, the professional response to a misfire is, put a stick next to the tube to indicate it has misfired. All loaders and firers are to steer clear of tubes marked with sticks until they have been flooded. EVEN IF you see a shell launch from it, you don’t approach the tube until it’s been flooded.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 7:36:26pm
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Teukka  May 3, 2019 • 7:37:31pm

re: #69 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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And I can confirm @RealJamesWoods is not suspended.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 7:40:13pm

Oh wow…

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 7:44:15pm

re: #71 teleskiguy

Bell Curve 2: The Enstupiding.

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EPR-radar  May 3, 2019 • 7:46:27pm

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹

Bell Curve 2: The Enstupiding.

“race realism” of that filthy kind is what passes for thought among conservatives.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2019 • 7:46:51pm
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William Lewis  May 3, 2019 • 7:47:17pm

re: #62 allegro

Until about maybe 6 months ago I can’t recall ever seeing this word used anywhere but old timey texts, and never in normal every-day conversation. In the last few months I’ve seen/heard it all over the place - this is the second time today I’ve seen it here. I even talked about it to a friend (a retired professional writer) a while back and he agreed that this is not a word he has ever seen commonly used before in his lifetime.

Is it just me?

I’ve seen the word, especially in regards to custom firearms, all my life.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 3, 2019 • 7:48:42pm

re: #76 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

737/A320-class, in the river near a naval air base, means a mid-air emergency resulting in an emergency landing call. I’m guessing it wasn’t a MAX set to auto-crash mode.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 7:49:37pm

This needs to be purged. I used the long form.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 7:51:03pm

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹

Bell Curve 2: The Enstupiding.

Yeah and you can bet Andy Sullivan wants to get in to play the race card the same way that Tory Queen tried to attack Malcolm Nance on Hardball.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2019 • 7:52:11pm

re: #78 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

737/A320-class, in the river near a naval air base, means a mid-air emergency resulting in an emergency landing call. I’m guessing it wasn’t a MAX set to auto-crash mode.

Ran off the runway. P-8s (737) are stationed at NAS JAX

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allegro  May 3, 2019 • 7:52:14pm

re: #77 William Lewis

I’ve seen the word, especially in regards to custom firearms, all my life.

Huh. That’s interesting. Have you seen or used it outside of gun talk?

When I have seen it in old novels and such it was usually with respect to clothing, specifically men’s clothing.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 3, 2019 • 7:53:55pm

re: #81 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Ran off the runway. P-8s (737) are stationed at NAS JAX

I would have assumed that observers would have noticed the radar on a P-8, but that’s a fair point. Still, something went wrong and they did not go to space today.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2019 • 7:57:39pm

re: #83 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I would have assumed that observers would have noticed the radar on a P-8, but that’s a fair point. Still, something went wrong and they did not go to space today.

There is no obvious rader on a P-8, it’s an anti-submarine plane.
But, been confirmed it’s commercial. Seen plenty of charter flights landing at JAX over the years

(that’s the Jacksonville Mayor)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2019 • 7:59:43pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 3, 2019 • 8:00:13pm

re: #63 Joe Bacon 🌹

My brainwashed Jesusbot relatives endlessly utter the same shit. And they keep insisting that Trump will arrest Hillary, Obama, Pelosi, Maxine and AOC over Pizzagate.

From David Wohl twitter:

David Wohl Retweeted

Julio Gonzalez

My ‘Indicted by Summer’ Wish List:

1. Obama
2. The Clintons
3. Comey
4. Strozk
5. Lisa Page
6. McCabe
7. Clapper
8. Brennan
9. Rice
10. Yates

Is this too much to ask for?

It’s not just Jesusbots — it’s everyone who continues to support him. The real horror is that Barr may be trying to put this policy into action.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 8:00:20pm

re: #81 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Ran off the runway. P-8s (737) are stationed at NAS JAX

According to WJXT, this is a commercial airliner, not a Navy aircraft.

news4jax.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2019 • 8:00:45pm
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Unshaken Defiance  May 3, 2019 • 8:00:46pm

re: #67 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m a professionally trained fireworks operator. I can tell you what would have happened if that guy had been on my show. In short: If the misfiring shell didn’t kill him, I would have.

The people we have that hang out here… I mean “fireworks operator” that’s pretty damn cool.

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William Lewis  May 3, 2019 • 8:02:19pm

re: #82 allegro

Huh. That’s interesting. Have you seen or used it outside of gun talk?

When I have seen it in old novels and such it was usually with respect to clothing, specifically men’s clothing.

For cloths, only custom suits. But guns? Almost all the classic English custom builders or Connecticut Shotguns here in the US were always called bespoke. The meaning is not so much special or custom as simply “made for someone specific”. Thus a bespoke shotgun would have a stock that had its pitch, drop, & cast all to a specific fitting.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 8:03:11pm

re: #67 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m a professionally trained fireworks operator. I can tell you what would have happened if that guy had been on my show. In short: If the misfiring shell didn’t kill him, I would have.

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William Lewis  May 3, 2019 • 8:04:01pm

re: #88 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

Shallow water, no breakup, no fire. That’s as best case as it gets.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 8:04:54pm

re: #86 Hecuba’s daughter

From David Wohl twitter:

It’s not just Jesusbots — it’s everyone who continues to support him. The real horror is that Barr may be trying to put this policy into action.

That’s the CENSORED list several relatives are posting!

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KGxvi  May 3, 2019 • 8:05:21pm

re: #92 William Lewis

Shallow water, no breakup, no fire. That’s as best case as it gets.

Any landing you can walk away from…

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goddamnedfrank  May 3, 2019 • 8:06:02pm

re: #67 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m a professionally trained fireworks operator. I can tell you what would have happened if that guy had been on my show. In short: If the misfiring shell didn’t kill him, I would have.

This is still my favorite fireworks fuckup.

Fire crackers in own pants!!! Hillarious

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 8:07:47pm

re: #95 goddamnedfrank

This is still my favorite fireworks fuckup.

[Embedded content]

I had a hunk a hunk of burnin’ love…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 8:15:24pm

re: #95 goddamnedfrank

This is still my favorite fireworks fuckup.

[Embedded content]

Lord Almighty,
I feel my temperature rising
Higher higher
It’s burning right thru my pants

Mr. Darwin
I’m dumb enough to set me on fire
My ding dong is flaming
I don’t know which way to go

Your sparks lift me higher
And I see that bright bright fire
You light my evening sky
With burning love

My pee pee is now
just a stump, a stump of burning love
just a stump, a stump of burning love
just a stump, a stump of burning love
just a stump, a stump of burning love
OWTCH!
just a stump, a stump of burning love
Aw, SHIT!
just a stump, a stump of burning love
just a stump, a stump of burning love…

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allegro  May 3, 2019 • 8:17:32pm

re: #86 Hecuba’s daughter

From David Wohl twitter:

It’s not just Jesusbots — it’s everyone who continues to support him. The real horror is that Barr may be trying to put this policy into action.

Isn’t Kamala Harris digging into this very thing?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2019 • 8:17:45pm

Yep, charter

“At approximately 9:40 p.m. today, a Boeing 737 arriving from Naval Station Guantanamo Bay, Cuba into Naval Air Station Jacksonville crashed into the St. Johns River at the end of the runway,” Naval Air Station Jacksonville said in a statement. “Navy security and emergency response personnel are on the scene and monitoring the situation.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 8:18:37pm

re: #98 allegro

Isn’t Kamala Harris digging into this very thing?

The fear I have is that Trump will suspend the writ of habeas corpus citing the precedent Lincoln used during the Civil War.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2019 • 8:35:05pm

150 on board, only 2 injuries.
Don’t often get better results from a plane crash

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Belafon  May 3, 2019 • 8:35:30pm

re: #100 Joe Bacon 🌹

The fear I have is that Trump will suspend the writ of habeas corpus citing the precedent Lincoln used during the Civil War.

And what do we do if he tries that? (Asked in a teacher voice, not a panic voice.)

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 8:38:02pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 3, 2019 • 8:43:05pm

re: #98 allegro

Isn’t Kamala Harris digging into this very thing?

That was certainly a key question that Barr “failed” to answer. Kamala sent a letter to the Justice Department’s inspector general on Friday, requesting further information:
cnn.com

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 8:46:08pm

CuriousLurker was mentioned up top. Man, I think b.d. might be right, she would have been bored and appalled at the mediocrity that has become the conservative movement.

There was a lot of Islamophobia way back in the day around these parts, for like, maybe four or five years, whatever. CuriousLurker showed up - a devout Muslim - and took these assholes on one-by-one. Destroying their bigoted arguments, chapter and verse. She changed this place. She made it better. She is so missed, gone too soon…

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unproven innocence  May 3, 2019 • 8:48:13pm

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹

Mozilla just disabled a bunch of my add-ons, saying they do not comport to the new API in Firefox.

Going to the add-on manager, it now appears that Mozilla’s site is down.

Thanks guys.

Mozilla let a cert lapse/expire.
You might consider alternatives such as Waterfox, PaleMoon, Basilisk, etc —which have
xpinstall.signatures.required false by default in about:config

Short of trying a different browser, consider that making that change manually in Firefox (where that entry is true by default) should undo the de-activation of your addons, but you likely would still not be able to update addons via Mozilla’s website. If/when they get their cert issue fixed, you should probably change it back to false true.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 8:49:05pm

CuriousLurker took *NO* bullshit. If you brought bullshit to her desk…

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Dave In Austin  May 3, 2019 • 8:58:30pm

This is painful….. Every time I hear or see this.

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Dave In Austin  May 3, 2019 • 9:00:53pm

Could you guys thank these guys….. I can’t

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Hecuba's daughter  May 3, 2019 • 9:00:55pm

re: #105 teleskiguy

Although I joined well after this site had abandoned its Islamophobia, I always looked forward to her insights. Her passing was a loss to us all.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 9:02:06pm

re: #110 Hecuba’s daughter

She was a deep thinker. She was fun. And she always posted cute cat tweets whenever possible.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 3, 2019 • 9:02:27pm
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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 9:04:38pm

Fuckface Von Clownstick just retweeted this, from 1 May.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 9:06:16pm

Fucking disgraceful. Just, I. I can’t

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Sufficient unto the day...  May 3, 2019 • 9:09:20pm

re: #62 allegro

The first time I encountered the word was in regards to Mass Effect 3 in 2012. They promised us that our choices in the first two games would radically alter the ending you experience.

We get six endings, actually three cinematic endings, since three of those cinematics are identical to others, just with a different tinting (Red, Green, Blue!).

“There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say any more than that…”

BESPOKE DOESN’T MEAN THE ENDING EVERYONE GETS, IT MEANS THE ENDING ONLY YOU GET, AND YOU MOTHERFUCKERS LIED ABOUT IT. Yes, I’m still salty about it seven years later. I hold grudges until they die of old age, and then I have them stuffed and mounted.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 9:09:35pm

The conservative movement in the United States is now NEENER NEENER NEENER with additional doses of hatred and cruelty to non-whites. It’s so fucking disgusting.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 9:13:59pm

re: #89 Unshaken Defiance

The people we have that hang out here… I mean “fireworks operator” that’s pretty damn cool.

Definitely cooler than “erotic Romance novel editor.” You get to blow stuff up.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 9:14:33pm

re: #113 teleskiguy

North Korea just tested some missiles. He had a phone conversation with Putin this afternoon. And he’s trying to find dank memes to own the libs.

We’re so boned.

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allegro  May 3, 2019 • 9:15:27pm

re: #115 Sufficient unto the day…

Never saw this amount of passion coming over the word “bespoke.” LOL (literally)

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Ace-o-aces  May 3, 2019 • 9:17:31pm

That’s my theory anyway.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 9:18:20pm

Somebody snorted so much coke he thinks he’s Johnny Otis!

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 3, 2019 • 9:18:24pm
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Sufficient unto the day...  May 3, 2019 • 9:18:53pm

re: #111 teleskiguy

And guinea pigs.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 9:19:26pm

re: #120 Ace-o-aces

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Ace-o-aces  May 3, 2019 • 9:19:26pm
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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 9:19:55pm

re: #123 Sufficient unto the day…

And guinea pigs.

YES!

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 9:20:05pm

Mayor Lenny Curry (R-Jacksonville, Fla.):

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 9:22:23pm

re: #123 Sufficient unto the day…

And guinea pigs.

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Sufficient unto the day...  May 3, 2019 • 9:24:29pm
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Ace-o-aces  May 3, 2019 • 9:27:53pm

re: #122 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

OTOH there’s something satisfying about Bolton’s plans being thwarted because Trump is such a limp noodle.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 9:30:55pm
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unproven innocence  May 3, 2019 • 9:32:03pm

re: #106 unproven innocence

OOPSIE. My suggestion on tweeking an entry in about:config in Firefox is applicable for ESR and developer flavors of Firefox, but NOT for standard release versions. I have verified that it re-enables addons (altho with warnings) for my Firefox version 60.6.1esr.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 9:37:26pm

re: #132 unproven innocence

OOPSIE. My suggestion on tweeking an entry in about:config in Firefox is applicable for ESR and developer flavors of Firefox, but NOT for standard release versions. I have verified that it re-enables addons (altho with warnings) for my Firefox version 60.6.1esr.

Firefox itself said that they intentionally deactivated them.
support.mozilla.org

They say they are modernising.

Note: Starting with Firefox version 57 released on November 14, 2017, only extensions built with this new technology will work in Firefox. A majority of the most popular add-ons are already compatible, so most users should not notice any changes.

If any incompatible extensions are installed, they will be shown in the Add-ons Manager as Legacy Extensions. Click the menu button Fx57menu and choose Add-ons (or enter about:addons in a new tab) to open the Add-ons Manager. Then click on Legacy Extensions. From there, you should be able to find recommended replacements for any legacy extensions. You can read more about this feature in this Add-ons blog post.

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retired cynic  May 3, 2019 • 9:39:28pm

Well… the midwestern rivers are all flooding, and that means the one I’m looking at across a field. I _think_ I’m safe here, but looking at topographical maps and flood stages and counting feet and looking at landmarks… Supposed to crest here early next week. Wondering how to safeguard my husband’s books and papers if the worst happens. Gah. I’m too old, and had to do this too many times. Each time I move, I think THIS time I’m above the flood mark…

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 9:42:27pm

re: #134 retired cynic

If I were you I would hope for dry conditions in the headwaters of the Missouri River. Who the fuck knows. It might snow like a motherfucker a few times in Idaho and Montana, and that will make things worse.

It happened in 2011.

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William Lewis  May 3, 2019 • 9:43:09pm

re: #134 retired cynic

I can understand. And yet, I’d rather live here in the midwest with too much fresh water than in the southwest with not enough…

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unproven innocence  May 3, 2019 • 9:43:23pm

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹

A nice feature of Waterfox is that it supports the legacy addons AND the newer stuff too.
waterfox.net
waterfox.net (addons)

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 9:45:13pm

re: #135 teleskiguy

If I were you I would hope for dry conditions in the headwaters of the Missouri River. Who the fuck knows. It might snow like a motherfucker a few times in Idaho and Montana, and that will make things worse.

It happened in 2011.

Also the headwaters of the South and North Platte Rivers (which flow into the Missouri).

Right now the North Platte is out of its banks here. A couple years ago there was so much snow in Wyoming they opened dams there and flooded everything downstream of where I live.

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retired cynic  May 3, 2019 • 9:45:31pm

re: #135 teleskiguy

It’s the Illinois I am looking at, and the water is coming down from up north. In ‘93, the Big One, it did come down the Missouri, and backed up the Illinois from the south.

re: #136 William Lewis

Thanks. Yes. I just wish I was about 10’ higher up the hill. The weather, she keeps a’changing…

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 9:45:47pm

I can remember two *biggest floods ever* in the Mississippi River Basin. Once when I was a kid, in 1993, and once much later, in 2011. Both started with a deep snowpack in the upper Missouri basin and then rapid melt in the spring followed by big rain events in the middle of the basins.

We’ll see this spring. It’s early yet.

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 9:46:43pm

re: #139 retired cynic

Oh shit, you’re not even in the Missouri Basin. My bad!

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retired cynic  May 3, 2019 • 9:46:54pm

re: #140 teleskiguy

GAH. I want to stick my head under my pillow. That won’t work. So I’m drinking, instead!

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 9:50:40pm

re: #142 retired cynic

Stay dry! You’re in my thoughts.

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retired cynic  May 3, 2019 • 9:51:18pm

re: #143 teleskiguy

Thank you! I’ll try my utmost!

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 9:58:16pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 10:00:58pm

Another Republican who needs to be recalled out of office…

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teleskiguy  May 3, 2019 • 10:02:52pm

A long time coming.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 10:04:40pm

re: #146 Joe Bacon 🌹

Another Republican who needs to be recalled out of office…

That’s the nutbar in the Washington State legislature from the wingnut part of the state.

Plenty of Republicans are fine with him.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 10:04:59pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 3, 2019 • 10:10:30pm

re: #130 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

OTOH there’s something satisfying about Bolton’s plans being thwarted because Trump is such a limp noodle.

I never understood Bolton accepting the position in the Trump administration. His prior positions seemed antithetical to everything that Trump promoted on foreign policy. It seems totally out of character for Bolton to defer to Putin or any foreign leader.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 10:13:57pm

UH oh!

Franky Graham Cracker is heading for his stash of kryptonite!

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 10:14:04pm

re: #150 Hecuba’s daughter

I never understood Bolton accepting the position in the Trump administration. His prior positions seemed antithetical to everything that Trump promoted on foreign policy. It seems totally out of character for Bolton to defer to Putin or any foreign leader.

Bolton’s not stupid. He can get his warfare freak flag flying with Trump, because Trump is so easy to manipulate.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 10:15:08pm

re: #152 Anymouse 🌹

Bolton’s not stupid. He can get his warfare freak flag flying with Trump, because Trump is so easy to manipulate.

Mr. Plato’s Retreat may be checkmated in Venezuela but there’s always Iran…

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 3, 2019 • 10:21:12pm

re: #62 allegro

Until about maybe 6 months ago I can’t recall ever seeing this word used anywhere but old timey texts, and never in normal every-day conversation. In the last few months I’ve seen/heard it all over the place - this is the second time today I’ve seen it here. I even talked about it to a friend (a retired professional writer) a while back and he agreed that this is not a word he has ever seen commonly used before in his lifetime.

Is it just me?

According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary people, it dates from 1607.
merriam-webster.com

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Dave In Austin  May 3, 2019 • 10:26:11pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 3, 2019 • 10:29:48pm

re: #147 teleskiguy

Hey, man. You been watching the Avalanche playoff games?

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 10:35:11pm

(video, 0:16)

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 3, 2019 • 10:35:29pm

Project Veritas as a partner?

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 3, 2019 • 10:41:22pm
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allegro  May 3, 2019 • 10:54:52pm

re: #154 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary people, it dates from 1607.
merriam-webster.com

Huh, again. Any thoughts on why it seems to be suddenly resurgent in use? I swear it’s not my imagination. Really.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 3, 2019 • 11:07:38pm

Yikes!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 3, 2019 • 11:08:14pm

re: #160 allegro

Huh, again. Any thoughts on why it seems to be suddenly resurgent in use? I swear it’s not my imagination. Really.

I remember seeing it pop up when I was reading one of Neal Stephenson’s novels (maybe Cryptonomicon?)about a decade and a half ago and my reaction was the same as yours. In fact, I had to look up the meaning at the time. It originally referred to custom-tailored men’s suits, and I reckon the term has been adopted so much by other makers of custom-made items that it now pops up more frequently than before.

After all, “bespoke” just sounds so much more refined and exclusive than “custom-made.”

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Sufficient unto the day...  May 3, 2019 • 11:10:12pm

re: #160 allegro

Because its fucking cool. Also, it is NOT your imagination.

books.google.com

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Anymouse 🌹  May 3, 2019 • 11:10:47pm

re: #160 allegro

Huh, again. Any thoughts on why it seems to be suddenly resurgent in use? I swear it’s not my imagination. Really.

It has been in occasional usage in the UK for a long time. It’s popping up again here.

For example, this article.

From Bridal Salons to Custom Gowns, Here’s Where Size Inclusivity Stands in the Bridal Industry (Goes to Harper’s Bazaar)

As the fashion industry plays catch up and strives to create more and more avenues of inclusivity, those who are seeking to be game-changers in the space are seemingly five steps ahead, and it’s giving brides all the more options in the luxury space. From bespoke customizations to digital platforms making size inclusivity a priority, a new energy for fashion—in bridal, and at every size—is on the horizon.

(more at the link on customising bridal clothes for inclusivity of so-called plus-size women).

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sagehen  May 3, 2019 • 11:28:16pm

re: #160 allegro

Huh, again. Any thoughts on why it seems to be suddenly resurgent in use? I swear it’s not my imagination. Really.

Because there’s a lot more conspicuous-consumption than there used to be?

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Chrysicat  May 3, 2019 • 11:33:06pm
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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 3, 2019 • 11:37:11pm

12 minutes to launch.

CRS-17 Mission

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2019 • 11:39:08pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2019 • 11:50:30pm

Max-Q
Vroom
No Boom

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2019 • 11:52:10pm

MICO
Stage Separation
SSSU

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Chrysicat  May 3, 2019 • 11:56:09pm

re: #167 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

Just looked up the mission on Wiki. Why on earth is it still using a 9 when Heavy has been in rotation for three years?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2019 • 11:59:02pm

OK, SpaceX just out did themselves with that booster landing video
Just awesome.
And yes, it’s on the boat

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 4, 2019 • 12:00:21am

re: #171 Chrysicat

Just looked up the mission on Wiki. Why on earth is it still using a 9 when Heavy has been in rotation for three years?

because they don’t need the Heavy for this payload?

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 4, 2019 • 12:02:47am

The ground based infrared camera of the landing burn was fantastic and the first stage camera had no dropout through the landing. Spectacular!

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teleskiguy  May 4, 2019 • 12:04:31am

That is a fuckin’ basketball game score. Fuck!

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teleskiguy  May 4, 2019 • 12:06:50am

re: #175 teleskiguy

Just shy of 280 points scored in a basketball game. Think about that.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 4, 2019 • 12:08:57am

re: #174 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

The ground based infrared camera of the landing burn was fantastic and the first stage camera had no dropout through the landing. Spectacular!

Yeah, the boat was only like 12 miles offshore from KSC, so that likely allowed them to transmit the video directly to a line of sight shore station, and not rely on a transmitter on the barge bouncing it off a satellite

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Chrysicat  May 4, 2019 • 12:09:58am

re: #176 teleskiguy

So does this mean the Nuggets are now on the losing end of the largest combined scores in regular-season and playoff history, or did someone manage to exceed 281 combined, despite not playing 68 minutes, at some point in the past?

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Chrysicat  May 4, 2019 • 12:11:54am

Also, since I was following “Jokic” trending myself and found this I had to respond:

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teleskiguy  May 4, 2019 • 12:13:00am

re: #178 Chrysicat

Don’t ask me. I haven’t a clue. I don’t really pay attention to that stuff. The numbers jumped out at me on Twitter so I shared here. I mean, 140-137 ??? Thems some fuckin’ points on the board at a basketball game!

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William Lewis  May 4, 2019 • 12:14:33am

re: #175 teleskiguy

Ah, basketball. All you need to do is watch the last two minutes and you’ll see everything important in the game… ;)

(Running, ducking & hiding ;) )

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Dave In Austin  May 4, 2019 • 12:19:37am

“Barr is so far up Trump’s ass he ran into Hannity……”

Mahar

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 4, 2019 • 12:21:54am

Here’s a follow-up to our discussion of teacher pay the other day. From US News & World Report via Edweek.

Teacher Salaries Fell 4.5% Over the Last Decade
The gender gap contributes to disparities in pay between teachers and similarly educated professionals.

usnews.com

“I am working hard so I can have money to pay for mortgage, insurance and all other expenses,” [Evelyn] Fabito says during a brief break on her way from one job to the next. In addition to her jobs at the elementary school and for the catering company, Fabito is a caregiver in a private home.

Already in 2019, educators have walked the picket lines, held sick-outs, marched and protested in Los Angeles, Virginia, Denver, West Virginia, Oakland, Kentucky and Sacramento - all in the last four months. The discontent on display follows a year rocked by educator unrest, in which teachers in places like Arizona, Kentucky, North Carolina, Oklahoma and West Virginia organized around the same issues of pay, class size and resources, and ultimately motivated thousands of educators to run for office in the 2018 midterm election.

There are some promising signs it’s making an impact on the profession.

The average classroom teacher salary for 2018-19 school year is projected to increase by 2.1 percent over the 2017-18 school year, from $60,477 to $61,730, according to the NEA report, in part because of the salary bumps negotiated in states and cities where educators spoke up.

“Educators don’t do this work to get rich,” [NEA President Lily] Eskelsen García said. “They do this work because they believe in students. But their pay is not commensurate with the dedication and expertise they bring to the profession.”

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Chrysicat  May 4, 2019 • 12:22:05am

re: #180 teleskiguy

Ah. I got my answer anyway, by finally searching “highest scoring playoff game” without the quotes.

The Blazers did win it, but it wasn’t this game. It was the last game ever in Phoenix’s previous arena, May 11, 1992, and the score was 153-151 in “only” 2 OTs.

Nuggets have to settle for losing the highest-scoring game ever, and losing the longest playoff game in the modern era.

And I actually do actively care about the Nuggets—and pretty much, in the NBA, only the Nuggets, with a little love for Portland itself.

Guessing I’m rare in here even just as an NBA fan.

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Chrysicat  May 4, 2019 • 12:23:06am

In other thoughts, does anyone know if Mozilla has fixed that certificate disaster for every last Firefox extension, or If I still have to reload the kludge should I find myself having to close the program?

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Chrysicat  May 4, 2019 • 12:26:47am

re: #181 William Lewis

Ah, basketball. All you need to do is watch the last two minutes and you’ll see everything important in the game… ;)

(Running, ducking & hiding ;) )

You better! :-P

Seriously, this one had much of its action before the OTs. The Nuggets have a player who’s in the type of shape that an average person is. He had to play 65 minutes, because every time he came out, Portland started on a roll.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 4, 2019 • 1:15:32am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 4, 2019 • 1:59:30am

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 4, 2019 • 2:02:59am

?

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 4, 2019 • 2:16:29am
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Amory Blaine  May 4, 2019 • 2:55:53am
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Dave In Austin  May 4, 2019 • 2:58:23am
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Dave In Austin  May 4, 2019 • 3:25:11am

The down thread is incredibly scary…… I mean I’ll call it “Drooling Nationalism”. That almost describes it.

There is almost a prophetic reverence when they talk about Il Douche. Some serious WTF.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 4, 2019 • 3:29:56am

re: #4 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

People who were kicked out years ago and still hold resentment. It’s not that they think of us that way, they want to portray us that way.

That is re: #3 teleskiguy

So weird that people still have this image of LGF as a hotbed of anti-Muslim sentiment. That shit was like 15 years ago!

That is how I firtst heard of this site, discussing the Danish Mohammed caricatures at moonofalabama. I pointed out that no matter how offensive or insensitive they might be, a death sentence against the publishers was even more offensive.

Somebody commented “Why don’t go post over at LGF?”

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Dave In Austin  May 4, 2019 • 3:30:46am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 4, 2019 • 3:54:17am

re: #196 Dave In Austin

O”Keefe is one of those guys who thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room. Probably everyone he hires thinks the same thing about themselves. But the bitter truth is, none of them are smart at all.

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Sufficient unto the day...  May 4, 2019 • 4:22:25am

re: #197 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

He is the smartest guy in the room…as long as there is no other living thing in the room.

Yeah, the plant on the desk counts too.

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BlueSpotinAL  May 4, 2019 • 4:38:54am

re: #181 William Lewis

Ah, basketball. All you need to do is watch the last two minutes and you’ll see everything important in the game… ;)

(Running, ducking & hiding ;) )

I don’t have the hour of time to watch the last two minutes. :)

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jeffreyw  May 4, 2019 • 4:44:12am

Good morning!

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DangerMan  May 4, 2019 • 4:52:24am

re: #31 wrenchwench

Did you say Yale?!?!

Boola boola

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DangerMan  May 4, 2019 • 4:57:47am

re: #64 Teukka

IIRC, the definition of a Darwin AwardTM is an individual who has supposedly contributed to human evolution by selecting him- or herself out of the gene pool via death or sterilization by his or her own actions, and an “at-risk survivor” is someone who has narrowly evaded sterilization or death by actions which if successfully having lead to sterilization or death would’ve incurred a Darwin AwardTM.

An at risk survivor gets another chance to qualify

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 5:22:14am

re: #194 Dave In Austin

The down thread is incredibly scary…… I mean I’ll call it “Drooling Nationalism”. That almost describes it.

There is almost a prophetic reverence when they talk about Il Douche. Some serious WTF.

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It’s a cult. And their hero has said notta about the state governments that have punished people for BDS. I don’t support BDS in regards to Israel fwiw but there is actual censorship going on there. Trump once again shows his lack of interest in being a leader by taking up these guys.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 4, 2019 • 5:35:38am

re: #197 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

O”Keefe is one of those guys who thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room. Probably everyone he hires thinks the same thing about themselves. But the bitter truth is, none of them are smart at all.

He was praised as a genius and as the vanguard of a new generation of guerilla journalists and it all went to his head.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 4, 2019 • 5:50:18am

That’s a great thing about being agnostic. You can stay at any hotel without worrying about any association with Beatles or other devil-worshipers.

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Targetpractice  May 4, 2019 • 5:53:43am

This is one of those headlines that you can’t help but laugh at:

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 5:55:19am

re: #205 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

That’s a great thing about being agnostic. You can stay at any hotel without worrying about any association with Beatles or other devil-worshipers.

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I would be thrilled if I stayed at a hotel and found out it had a Beatles connection but I gotta say, that’s a first, I’ve never seen the Beatles called satanist before.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 4, 2019 • 5:57:04am

re: #205 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

So, Satan screws with the heating and exhaust fans in hotels. Clearly, a priest needs to be called to perform an exorcism, and not the maintenance guys.

This I believe is the demonic hotel, in case y’all want to avoid it.

orbitz.com

And the reviewer seems to find fault with two other places he/she has visited.
tripadvisor.co.uk

Apparently doesn’t like “ginger/blonde” (sic) men either.

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wrenchwench  May 4, 2019 • 6:01:35am

re: #207 HappyWarrior

I would be thrilled if I stayed at a hotel and found out it had a Beatles connection but I gotta say, that’s a first, I’ve never seen the Beatles called satanist before.

Throwbacks. John Lennon once said (unknown date, I could have the quotation all wrong) that the Beatles were more popular than Jesus. Their albums were given the Salem witch treatment. Vinyl. On fire. Worse than books.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 4, 2019 • 6:04:10am

re: #209 wrenchwench

Throwbacks. John Lennon once said (unknown date, I could have the quotation all wrong) that the Beatles were more popular than Jesus. Their albums were given the Salem witch treatment. Vinyl. On fire. Worse than books.

Oh, yeah, I remember that! ‘Twas 1966.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 6:04:17am

re: #209 wrenchwench

Throwbacks. John Lennon once said (unknown date, I could have the quotation all wrong) that the Beatles were more popular than Jesus. Their albums were given the Salem witch treatment. Vinyl. On fire. Worse than books.

I do know about that. Just didn’t know people still thought that way. But yeah.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 4, 2019 • 6:07:35am

re: #211 HappyWarrior

I do know about that. Just didn’t know people still thought that way. But yeah.

There’s a certain kind of Xian who believes anyone not a member of their particular sect is by default a Satanist. It’s been a thing since, oh I dunno, 322 325?

EDIT: I got the year wrong for the First Council of Nicaea, but there were fractures as early as 306.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 6:08:50am

re: #212 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

There’s a certain kind of Xian who believes anyone not a member of their particular sect is by default a Satanist. It’s been a thing since, oh I dunno, 322?

Yeah and these are the people Trump constantly panders to and his VP/SoS are among em.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 4, 2019 • 6:15:35am

re: #213 HappyWarrior

Yeah and these are the people Trump constantly panders to and his VP/SoS are among em.

There’s also Betsy DeVos, Ben Carson, and a host of others.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 4, 2019 • 6:23:07am

My LG warshing machine decided to stop pumping water. I am going to pull out the old parts cannon and order a new pump. I’m expecting to find at least $1.39 in laundered money inside. Luckily I always carry my plumbers crack with me.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 4, 2019 • 6:27:55am

re: #207 HappyWarrior

I would be thrilled if I stayed at a hotel and found out it had a Beatles connection but I gotta say, that’s a first, I’ve never seen the Beatles called satanist before.

Happy I remember the Birch Church back in the 60s whose preacher called the Beatles disciples of Satan.

Mom’s preacher went out of his way to go after Gawdless Cher. Oh and that Pulpit Pimp had every Liberace LP ever made saying he was a divinely inspired man of Gawd who lived a straight arrow life.

Bottom line—Pulpit Pimps are living proof that religion makes you stupid—very very stupid!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 4, 2019 • 6:30:09am

re: #160 allegro

Huh, again. Any thoughts on why it seems to be suddenly resurgent in use? I swear it’s not my imagination. Really.

Words go in and out of fashion. Red Sea Reef tanks speak of using bespoke lights by AquaIllumination. No, it’s not your imagination.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 4, 2019 • 6:30:59am

re: #209 wrenchwench

Throwbacks. John Lennon once said (unknown date, I could have the quotation all wrong) that the Beatles were more popular than Jesus. Their albums were given the Salem witch treatment. Vinyl. On fire. Worse than books.

Yes the Birch Church back home did a Beatles record burning. And Merrill at the town record shop laughed at them because they came to his store and bought every Beatles record he had in stock. Which he promptly reordered when kids flocked to his store when he put up a big sign saying THEY’RE BACK!

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Teukka  May 4, 2019 • 6:31:28am


Simply “…”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 4, 2019 • 6:33:16am

re: #219 Teukka


Simply “…”

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Idiotcracy is here in these You Nighted States!

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wrenchwench  May 4, 2019 • 6:37:50am

re: #218 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes the Birch Church back home did a Beatles record burning. And Merrill at the town record shop laughed at them because they came to his store and bought every Beatles record he had in stock. Which he promptly reordered when kids flocked to his store when he put up a big sign saying THEY’RE BACK!

And Boomers as a consumer group was/were born. (Probably a little before that, but that’s a great example.)

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 4, 2019 • 6:43:58am

re: #218 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes the Birch Church back home did a Beatles record burning. And Merrill at the town record shop laughed at them because they came to his store and bought every Beatles record he had in stock. Which he promptly reordered when kids flocked to his store when he put up a big sign saying THEY’RE BACK!

Just like buying a Keurig machine and smashing it to own the libs.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 7:00:53am

re: #222 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Just like buying a Keurig machine and smashing it to own the libs.

Believe that’s the original version of that.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 7:02:13am

re: #216 Joe Bacon 🌹

Happy I remember the Birch Church back in the 60s whose preacher called the Beatles disciples of Satan.

Mom’s preacher went out of his way to go after Gawdless Cher. Oh and that Pulpit Pimp had every Liberace LP ever made saying he was a divinely inspired man of Gawd who lived a straight arrow life.

Bottom line—Pulpit Pimps are living proof that religion makes you stupid—very very stupid!

The Christian Right is so crazy isn’t it?

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wrenchwench  May 4, 2019 • 7:08:58am

re: #224 HappyWarrior

The Christian Right is so crazy isn’t it?

Never teach them how ‘boycott’ is done. Right now (and for decades, so far) they think it goes:

1.) Buy them all
2.) Make the items unusable
3.) Win!

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Old Liberal  May 4, 2019 • 7:09:09am

re: #224 HappyWarrior

The Christian Right is so crazy isn’t it?

They are very afraid of the terrible wrath of their loving god

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Old Liberal  May 4, 2019 • 7:11:26am

re: #226 Old Liberal

They are very afraid of the terrible wrath of their loving god

Being religious is like living with an alcoholic father. You never know which dad will show up.

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Teukka  May 4, 2019 • 7:24:31am

re: #219 Teukka


Simply “…”

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 7:30:11am

re: #225 wrenchwench

Never teach them how ‘boycott’ is done. Right now (and for decades, so far) they think it goes:

Yeah they have no idea how boycotts are supposed to be done. Funny genealogy note, I might be a distant cousin of the guy who coined the term- an Irish priest in County Mayo who was asking people to shun a very unpopular land agent. Turns out the landlord that agent worked for was my third grandmother’s brother’s landlord and the priest has the same last name as both third grand Nana and long ago Uncle Jim O’Malley.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2019 • 7:30:56am
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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 7:31:03am

re: #228 Teukka

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And these are Trump’s most devoted followers and he acknowledges them as such.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 7:32:47am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Last I saw California, NYC, DC, etc were all part of the United States. You don’t get to cry they deserve to be canceled out because you don’t like how they vote. And if you’re going to do that, you don’t get to include them in the economic numbers either where they far outperform the red deserts that Trump dominates.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 4, 2019 • 7:34:45am

offline for awhile. Writing time. May have more good news to share tomorrow. Did I mention my daughter is going to Yale?

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Teukka  May 4, 2019 • 7:35:43am

re: #231 HappyWarrior

And these are Trump’s most devoted followers and he acknowledges them as such.

This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.
— Admiral Josh Painter, “The Hunt for Red October”

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wrenchwench  May 4, 2019 • 7:41:01am

re: #233 I Would Prefer Not To

offline for awhile. Writing time. May have more good news to share tomorrow. Did I mention my daughter is going to Yale?

YALE?!?!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2019 • 7:42:20am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 4, 2019 • 7:43:18am

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wiggo wigga?

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 7:43:44am

Lre: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I think you could easily get Trump if it hasn’t already happened to get him to RT something with 88 in it.

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jaunte  May 4, 2019 • 7:44:05am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

Baseball Crank, your reliable supplier of bespoke “Republicans Must Win” maps.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2019 • 7:45:47am
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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 7:47:48am

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

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There’s plenty of conservatives who weren’t banned because not every conservative l threatens people on Twitter and engages in conspiracies about children being murdered.

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Belafon  May 4, 2019 • 7:47:52am

According to my wife, at the end of Endgame, someone said they saw:

Ben Mendelsohn, who was the Skrull leader in Captain Marvel. I may have to see the movie again to verify it.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 7:49:55am

I’m for free speech. I also know the difference between being banned for repeatedly abusive behavior on a website and the government putting people in jail for their beliefs.

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jaunte  May 4, 2019 • 7:51:45am
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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 7:52:23am

re: #244 jaunte

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Another day at the office.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 4, 2019 • 7:52:46am

re: #243 HappyWarrior

I’m for free speech. I also know the difference between being banned for repeatedly abusive behavior on a website and the government putting people in jail for their beliefs.

Free speech is saying, “I don’t like this movie. It sucks.” Free speech is not, “I hate this movie. We should burn down the producer’s house with him inside and then shoot the director.”

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 4, 2019 • 7:53:52am

re: #245 HappyWarrior

Another day at the office.

Another day of being grumpy Grampa. Everyone’s glad when he leaves the house.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 7:55:41am

re: #246 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Free speech is saying, “I don’t like this movie. It sucks.” Free speech is not, “I hate this movie. We should burn down the producer’s house with him inside and then shoot the director.”

Yep. Exactly.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 4, 2019 • 7:55:49am

re: #106 unproven innocence

Mozilla let a cert lapse/expire.
You might consider alternatives such as Waterfox, PaleMoon, Basilisk, etc —which have
xpinstall.signatures.required false by default in about:config

Short of trying a different browser, consider that making that change manually in Firefox (where that entry is true by default) should undo the de-activation of your addons, but you likely would still not be able to update addons via Mozilla’s website. If/when they get their cert issue fixed, you should probably change it back to false true.

That’s not what Mozilla said. They said they disabled all add-ons which do not comport with their new API.

I tried your suggestion. It does not work.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 7:58:27am

re: #247 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Another day of being grumpy Grampa. Everyone’s glad when he leaves the house.

Yeah. He’s always in a shitty mood. I would be too if I knew I was such a miserable bastard like that.

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jaunte  May 4, 2019 • 7:59:32am

re: #250 HappyWarrior

I wonder which toady has agreed to be cheated on the course today?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 4, 2019 • 8:01:24am

re: #251 jaunte

I wonder which toady has agreed to be cheated on the course today?

There will always be a sucker who begs to kiss Trump’s ass.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 8:01:29am

re: #251 jaunte

I wonder which toady has agreed to be cheated on the course today?

Barr maybe?

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jaunte  May 4, 2019 • 8:02:14am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

Barr doesn’t look like an ‘outdoors’ guy.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 8:04:19am

re: #254 jaunte

Barr doesn’t look like an ‘outdoors’ guy.

Hmmm then. But to be honest, outside the golfing, Trump isn’t exactly an outdoorsman.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 4, 2019 • 8:04:57am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

Curious how Maryland (!) shifted red.

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jaunte  May 4, 2019 • 8:05:04am

re: #255 HappyWarrior

I doubt he could walk 18 holes.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 8:07:02am

re: #256 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Curious how Maryland (!) shifted red.

Massachusetts too. It’s a stupid hypothetical.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 8:07:16am

re: #257 jaunte

I doubt he could walk 18 holes.

Yeah me neither.

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jaunte  May 4, 2019 • 8:15:44am
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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 8:18:48am

re: #260 jaunte

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It reminds me of Trump’s statements on Kim and Otto. He believed Kim Jong Un knew nothing about how Otto was being treated just like he seems to believe Putin has nothing to do with propping up Maduro.

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jaunte  May 4, 2019 • 8:19:21am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

He lies about everything. Everything.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 4, 2019 • 8:21:16am

re: #262 jaunte

He lies about everything. Everything.

You’re assuming he’s not so dim that he believes papa Putin that the Russians are going be hands off.

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jaunte  May 4, 2019 • 8:23:04am

re: #263 Colère Tueur de Lapin

It’s not a dim or not dim decision, it’s just that he’s picked his patron.

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jaunte  May 4, 2019 • 8:28:58am
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KerFuFFler  May 4, 2019 • 8:28:59am

re: #60 Joe Bacon 🌹

My favorite Darwin Award winner was the guy who was controlling a fireworks show, he tried to set off a charge, it didn’t fire so he looked into the tube to see why it didn’t shoot…you can guess the rest…

I’m partial to the winner who shoplifted a lobster. Too bad he shoved it down his pants. The store owner did not press charges as he figured the guy had been punished enough.

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mmmirele  May 4, 2019 • 8:29:19am

Elizabeth Warren is unafraid. She’s staking out the position that women are in charge of our own bodies. And she’s being attacked over it.

My response:

Oh, btw, I had tea (iced) with the woman who has, on previous Sundays of protesting, told me she loved me and that I was going to hell. I got to tell her about how CRAZY Scientology is. It helped that Scientology and its cruise ship fail boat have been in the news. It also turns out that I’m old enough to be her mother. I did get to tell her about how I was insulted by an allegedly pro-life nurse at 16, and how a next-door neighbor read me The Four Spiritual Laws (a little pamphlet by Bill Bright of Campus Crusade) mere moments after my mother was hauled off in an ambulance to have her stomach pumped after a suicide attempt. At 14, I was too shocked by what was going on with my mom to be insulted, but 45 years later, I told her that I thought taking advantage of a person’s grief and terror to push Jesus was just wrong. I hope I gave her something to think about.

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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 8:31:57am

re: #267 mmmirele

Elizabeth Warren is unafraid. She’s staking out the position that women are in charge of our own bodies. And she’s being attacked over it.

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Oh, btw, I had tea (iced) with the woman who has, on previous Sundays of protesting, told me she loved me and that I was going to hell. I got to tell her about how CRAZY Scientology is. It helped that Scientology and its cruise ship fail boat have been in the news. It also turns out that I’m old enough to be her mother. I did get to tell her about how I was insulted by an allegedly pro-life nurse at 16, and how a next-door neighbor read me The Four Spiritual Laws (a little pamphlet by Bill Bright of Campus Crusade) mere moments after my mother was hauled off in an ambulance to have her stomach pumped after a suicide attempt. At 14, I was too shocked by what was going on with my mom to be insulted, but 45 years later, I told her that I thought taking advantage of a person’s grief and terror to push Jesus was just wrong. I hope I gave her something to think about.

Such a stupid meme. Were Barbara Bush and Betty Ford and Governor Reagan who signed a liberal abortion law baby killers too or are these stupid memes only for pro choice Democratic women.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 4, 2019 • 8:37:35am

re: #267 mmmirele

You cannot reason someone out of a religious belief that a person reasoned themselves into.

There’s a reason atheists note that the best way to create atheists is to ask Christians to actually read the Bible cover-to-cover, rather than just listen to the abridged versions their pastor or priests read to them on Sunday.

If a person can get through all the incest, rape, slavery, genocide, hatred, &c in both the Old and New Testaments and says “yup, I believe this with all my heart, this is the word of God” that person needs to be opposed. That person does not deserve a place at the table of rational people.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 4, 2019 • 8:43:49am

re: #256 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Curious how Maryland (!) shifted red.

I’m sure Vlad’s kids are preparing to hack the machines to get Trump re-elected and Republicans get the House back.

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mmmirele  May 4, 2019 • 8:45:44am

re: #269 Anymouse 🌹

You cannot reason someone out of a religious belief that a person reasoned themselves into.

There’s a reason atheists note that the best way to create atheists is to ask Christians to actually read the Bible cover-to-cover, rather than just listen to the abridged versions their pastor or priests read to them on Sunday.

If a person can get through all the incest, rape, slavery, genocide, hatred, &c in both the Old and New Testaments and says “yup, I believe this with all my heart, this is the word of God” that person needs to be opposed. That person does not deserve a place at the table of rational people.

I can tell you what they say, because last Sunday I brought up the genocides in Joshua and how everyone was killed, at least according to the Biblical account. (N.B. Which probably didn’t happen.) I was told that they all deserved to die, even the infants, even the unborn, because they were horribly wicked people that “passed their children through the fire.” (Also, for the record, they couldn’t have been passing all their children through the fire, because that’s just a euphemism for human sacrifice.) So they do have occasions where, if God tells them*, it’s perfectly OK to kill fetuses.

You can’t reason with people like that. But I’m out there to remind them that they do believe in these things and people think they’re nuts. The woman I had tea with, she actually gave me credit for sticking to my guns and continuing to come out.

*ETA: This is known as “divine command theory” or “it can’t be wrong if God tells us to do it.” Blergh.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 4, 2019 • 8:53:45am

re: #271 mmmirele

I find it quite interesting you’re willing to go out to protest a church. At least the church you’re protesting actually owns up to what’s in the Bible and embraces it. Hypocrisy doesn’t seem to be an issue - they want to kill everyone they deem sinners just like the Bible says you’re supposed to do.

So-called liberal churches (those who whitewash the inconvenient parts of the Bible) I actually have more contempt for. They try to come up with “reasons” or simply ignore the genocidal rapey parts of their foundational text.

My ex-wife’s allegedly reasonable church’s teaching on love the sinner, hate the sin (used to bash gays and lesbians for being who they are) was why she divorced me over being possessed by demons for epilepsy.

I do not know of any church that does not believe demons are real and have some sort of control over people.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 4, 2019 • 8:54:49am

re: #264 jaunte

It’s not a dim or not dim decision, it’s just that he’s picked his patron.

Fair enough.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 4, 2019 • 9:03:35am

re: #273 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Fair enough.

Plenty of people seem to think that Donald Trump is just an idiot and has no idea what he’s doing or why.

That gives him an out (he’s an idiot).

I have not moved from my position that he knows exactly what he’s doing. It’s on purpose.

I’m off to bed; it’s past my bedtime.

I’ve been working on my article for the right-hand column on “so you thought you had breast cancer” but it turned out to be a hormone problem and now you can look forward to bra fittings. Yay.

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Teukka  May 4, 2019 • 9:03:44am

Excitement of the day in this lizardim’s neck of the woods. Attempted manslaughter/murder. Suspect in custody.

P.S.: Bumped into a couple of local righties across the street. Was taken aback when the first thing one the guys does is to claim that a “Green” (miljöpartiet) member did it all. What the unholy fuck is this world coming to?
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 4, 2019 • 9:06:19am

re: #274 Anymouse 🌹

Donald Trump is an idiot, but he’s an idiot who knows how to protect his own interests…to a point at least.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 4, 2019 • 9:06:20am

re: #275 Teukka

Excitement of the day in this lizardim’s neck of the woods. Attempted manslaughter/murder. Suspect in custody.

P.S.: Bumped into a couple local righties across the street. Was taken aback when the first thing one the guys does is to claim that a “Green” (miljöpartiet) member did it all. What the unholy fuck is this world coming to?

Conservatives in every nation must deny that it’s their ideology which generates the most murderers. To admit it is to admit conservatism is a murderous ideology.

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Ace-o-aces  May 4, 2019 • 9:06:59am
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HappyWarrior  May 4, 2019 • 9:10:37am

re: #278 Ace-o-aces

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He’s a lazy asshole.

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Old Liberal  May 4, 2019 • 9:13:23am

re: #274 Anymouse 🌹

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Done Ben Wrote  May 4, 2019 • 9:14:46am

re: #271 mmmirele

I can tell you what they say, because last Sunday I brought up the genocides in Joshua and how everyone was killed, at least according to the Biblical account. (N.B. Which probably didn’t happen.) I was told that they all deserved to die, even the infants, even the unborn, because they were horribly wicked people that “passed their children through the fire.” (Also, for the record, they couldn’t have been passing all their children through the fire, because that’s just a euphemism for human sacrifice.) So they do have occasions where, if God tells them*, it’s perfectly OK to kill fetuses.

A fine example of humans being more moral than God. For the most part, we don’t believe in punishing children for the crimes of their parents and grandparents.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 4, 2019 • 9:15:50am

re: #267 mmmirele

Elizabeth Warren is unafraid. She’s staking out the position that women are in charge of our own bodies. And she’s being attacked over it.

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Oh, btw, I had tea (iced) with the woman who has, on previous Sundays of protesting, told me she loved me and that I was going to hell. I got to tell her about how CRAZY Scientology is. It helped that Scientology and its cruise ship fail boat have been in the news. It also turns out that I’m old enough to be her mother. I did get to tell her about how I was insulted by an allegedly pro-life nurse at 16, and how a next-door neighbor read me The Four Spiritual Laws (a little pamphlet by Bill Bright of Campus Crusade) mere moments after my mother was hauled off in an ambulance to have her stomach pumped after a suicide attempt. At 14, I was too shocked by what was going on with my mom to be insulted, but 45 years later, I told her that I thought taking advantage of a person’s grief and terror to push Jesus was just wrong. I hope I gave her something to think about.

I saw the sick freaks who trashed your response. They’re so “pro-life” that they will turn their backs on kids who are starving, sick, abused and they will especially keep their mouths shut when it comes to child molesting priests and preachers!

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Anymouse 🌹  May 4, 2019 • 9:18:03am

Christian pastor Steven Anderson (kill the gays) has launched a new “conference” called “Make America Straight Again” to go after “reprobates.” Atheist vlogger Suris tears apart his positions about people who do not agree with Christianity are “not people” worthy of fair treatment by society.

He will have a whole host of pastors to speak about “sodomites” (his word) to protest Gay Pride week in Orlando.

He of course says this is “God’s view” on the matter.

Amongst other things, he uses the Naturalistic Fallacy to claim “gay is not normal” and then claims “they’re paedophiles” (a common conservative position as well as Christian position).

Sorry Orlando, you will have to host this douchecanoe along with a number of other of his fellow travelers who want to tell you how sinful you are and deserve to burn in Hell.

“We hate the things God hates” is a recurring theme in Christianity.

(video, 18:13)

Make America Straight Again?! WTF?!

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Old Liberal  May 4, 2019 • 9:18:42am

re: #281 Done Ben Wrote

A fine example of humans being more moral than God. For the most part, we don’t believe in punishing children for the crimes of their parents and grandparents.

Best part is many scholars think it never happened. So they could get off by saying “wasn’t real” but can’t do that with the book. So you justify genocide.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 4, 2019 • 9:18:58am

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mmmirele  May 4, 2019 • 9:25:29am

re: #272 Anymouse 🌹

I find it quite interesting you’re willing to go out to protest a church. At least the church you’re protesting actually owns up to what’s in the Bible and embraces it. Hypocrisy doesn’t seem to be an issue - they want to kill everyone they deem sinners just like the Bible says you’re supposed to do.

So-called liberal churches (those who whitewash the inconvenient parts of the Bible) I actually have more contempt for. They try to come up with “reasons” or simply ignore the genocidal rapey parts of their foundational text.

My ex-wife’s allegedly reasonable church’s teaching on love the sinner, hate the sin (used to bash gays and lesbians for being who they are) was why she divorced me over being possessed by demons for epilepsy.

I do not know of any church that does not believe demons are real and have some sort of control over people.

This is not the first church I’ve picketed. I picketed Mark Driscoll’s outfit in Scottsdale for the better part of a year in 2016, only giving up (and it was giving up, I was disgusted) after Trump was elected. And I picketed a church last year over their national leadership’s coverup of child sexual abuse. There are voices louder than mine (specifically Rachael Denhollander, who was the first to publicly accuse Larry Nassar of sexual abuse) going after Sovereign Grace, so it’s not so necessary at the moment.

And then there’s Scientology, but then again, they’re not a church. They’re a money-making outfit which sued the IRS into oblivion to get its tax exemption.

I believe some mainstream denominations (e.g. Episcopalians, some Methodists, some Lutherans, Disciples, etc.) would not believe in demons as disembodied spirits as you see them here. They’re all for mental health treatment and so on and they certainly aren’t holding prayer meetings and the laying on of hands to treat mental illness like so many churches do. But then again, these same people also don’t believe in the Evangelical/Calvinist penal substitutionary atonement theory. You know the one—God was so angry at us humans for being horrible horrible sinners that he had to execute his own son who was himself in order to deal with the sin problem. Of course, these guys will tell you how much God hates sin, but can’t explain, if Jesus is God in the flesh, how Jesus was able to be around all these dirty unwashed sinners for a few decades.

I don’t claim to be an orthodox Christian. I find the notion of disembodied spirits tormenting people to be preposterous, just as I find the idea of sitting down at a Scientology e-meter and trying to blow away thetans as part of auditing to be preposterous. But then again, I don’t believe the human Jesus was omniscient, etc., but a very human being.

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mmmirele  May 4, 2019 • 9:28:41am

re: #283 Anymouse 🌹

Well, Steve Anderson is pretty limited in where he can go, since the Netherlands barred him from entry, and that extends to the entire Schengen area. *smirk* He can go to Ireland, for now, but I could see the Irish government doing the same now that he’s banned from the Schengen area, the UK, South Africa, Botswana and Jamaica. Yes, Jamaica, which is very anti-gay but doesn’t want his brand of crazy on their white beaches.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 4, 2019 • 9:29:15am

re: #283 Anymouse 🌹

After Steven Anderson and his goons take out LGBTQ’s who will they go after next?

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Shropshire Slasher  May 4, 2019 • 9:31:01am

Well look at that, found half a hoop earring in the warsher pump housing, blocking the impeller.

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Dr Lizardo  May 4, 2019 • 9:33:33am

Great lecture here from Professor Nick Zenter about prehistoric supervolcanic eruptions fueled by the Yellowstone hot spot.

Filmed at Morgan Auditorium, Ellensburg, Washington on 17 April, 2019.

Supervolcanoes in the Pacific Northwest

Your weekend dose of science!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 4, 2019 • 9:44:14am

re: #283 Anymouse 🌹

Christian pastor Steven Anderson (kill the gays) has launched a new “conference” called “Make America Straight Again” to go after “reprobates.” Atheist vlogger Suris tears apart his positions about people who do not agree with Christianity are “not people” worthy of fair treatment by society.

He will have a whole host of pastors to speak about “sodomites” (his word) to protest Gay Pride week in Orlando.

He of course says this is “God’s view” on the matter.

Amongst other things, he uses the Naturalistic Fallacy to claim “gay is not normal” and then claims “they’re paedophiles” (a common conservative position as well as Christian position).

Sorry Orlando, you will have to host this douchecanoe along with a number of other of his fellow travelers who want to tell you how sinful you are and deserve to burn in Hell.

“We hate the things God hates” is a recurring theme in Christianity.

(video, 18:13)

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It’s only a matter of time before Anderson is outed.

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Teukka  May 4, 2019 • 9:44:36am

re: #283 Anymouse 🌹

Christian pastor Steven Anderson (kill the gays) has launched a new “conference” called “Make America Straight Again” to go after “reprobates.” Atheist vlogger Suris tears apart his positions about people who do not agree with Christianity are “not people” worthy of fair treatment by society.

He will have a whole host of pastors to speak about “sodomites” (his word) to protest Gay Pride week in Orlando.

He of course says this is “God’s view” on the matter.

Amongst other things, he uses the Naturalistic Fallacy to claim “gay is not normal” and then claims “they’re paedophiles” (a common conservative position as well as Christian position).

Sorry Orlando, you will have to host this douchecanoe along with a number of other of his fellow travelers who want to tell you how sinful you are and deserve to burn in Hell.

“We hate the things God hates” is a recurring theme in Christianity.

(video, 18:13)

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You can safely assume that you’ve created god in your own image when it turns out that god hates all the same people you do.
— Anne Lamott

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jaunte  May 4, 2019 • 9:48:22am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 4, 2019 • 9:57:42am

re: #283 Anymouse 🌹

Anderson and his pals are the same kind of Gawd-fearing Xtians who told me to my face that they were glad my son was killed in Iraq.

The Forced Birthers formed a gauntlet blocking a coworker from going into a clinic to get an abortion after her boyfriend beat her because she got pregnant. She asked coworkers to help her so I alone said I would go with her. And I won’t forget how Xtians told me I was going to hell and I will especially NEVER forget the child molesting priest who spit in my face right before we went in. Short eyes tried to provoke me to punch him. The same priest who wound up eventually killed in prison.

This is why I truly despise Xtians and I am so glad to see the latest surveys showing that young people are rejecting the Republican bullshit that these liars spread every Sunday in their brainwashing centers.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 4, 2019 • 9:57:46am

re: #293 jaunte

I’m sure Trump wouldn’t give two shits about not being on the ballot in California. It’s not like he’d ever win there.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 4, 2019 • 9:58:57am

re: #293 jaunte

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Now what if the California Republican Party makes Romney their candidate instead of Trump?

AND

Would write in votes for Trump be counted?

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jaunte  May 4, 2019 • 9:59:50am

re: #295 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t think it’s about what he thinks, It’s about furthering the question “what’s he hiding?”

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jaunte  May 4, 2019 • 10:01:37am

Thread:

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mmmirele  May 4, 2019 • 10:10:57am

I am completely shocked. Writer Rachel Held Evans, who started out in Evangelicalism but who moved from there into the Episcopal Church (and was vilified by many of her former co-religionists) has died. She was 37.

Rachel Held Evans, an influential progressive Christian writer and speaker who cheerfully challenged American evangelical culture, died on Saturday at a hospital in Nashville. Evans, 37, entered the hospital in mid-April with the flu, and then had a severe allergic reaction to antibiotics, as she wrote on Twitter several weeks ago. According to her husband, Dan Evans, she then developed sustained seizures. Doctors put her in a medically induced coma, but some seizures returned when her medical team attempted to wean her from the medications that were maintaining her coma. Her condition worsened on Thursday morning, and her medical team discovered severe swelling of her brain. She died early on Saturday morning.

slate.com

The article/obituary, by Ruth Graham, gives a pretty good overview of Held Evans’ religious trajectory.

I am completely stunned and shocked.

ETA: It’s now trending on Twitter.

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retired cynic  May 4, 2019 • 10:22:04am

re: #301 mmmirele

I am completely shocked. Writer Rachel Held Evans, who started out in Evangelicalism but who moved from there into the Episcopal Church (and was vilified by many of her former co-religionists) has died. She was 37.

slate.com

The article/obituary, by Ruth Graham, gives a pretty good overview of Held Evans’ religious trajectory.

I am completely stunned and shocked.

Oh, no! Even I knew who she was, and I know nothing about about current religious thought. I’m afraid that some jerks on the evangelical train will sadly pronounce that she suffered the wages of sin.

I had a dear friend die at about the same age of a similar thing, leaving a stunned husband and a very young daughter. It is a horrible, horrible thing.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 4, 2019 • 10:28:58am

Success, and it wasn’t a hoop earring, it was half a key ring.

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Teukka  May 4, 2019 • 10:36:27am
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Dave In Austin  May 4, 2019 • 10:39:45am

Why am I not surprised.

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Belafon  May 4, 2019 • 10:41:09am

re: #265 jaunte

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Yeah, but we’re going to need something Republicans disagree with.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 4, 2019 • 10:41:53am

re: #306 Belafon

Yeah, but we’re going to need something Republicans disagree with.

Which is a very tall order these days.

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jaunte  May 4, 2019 • 10:44:54am

Um.

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mmmirele  May 4, 2019 • 10:49:17am

re: #308 jaunte

I’m not going to answer a citizenship question if it’s on the 2020 census. I’m going to leave that sucker blank out of protest. And I think everyone else should, as well. It’s none of their g-d business.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 4, 2019 • 10:51:22am
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I Would Prefer Not To  May 4, 2019 • 10:51:55am

re: #309 mmmirele

I’m not going to answer a citizenship question if it’s on the 2020 census. I’m going to leave that sucker blank out of protest. And I think everyone else should, as well. It’s none of their g-d business.

I live in a house with musicians. Lots of people come and go. Some of them may show up on the form. Fuck trump.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 4, 2019 • 10:55:33am

re: #309 mmmirele

I’m not going to answer a citizenship question if it’s on the 2020 census. I’m going to leave that sucker blank out of protest. And I think everyone else should, as well. It’s none of their g-d business.

You could always answer: “Russian” and see what happens…

//

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 4, 2019 • 10:56:08am
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PhillyPretzel  May 4, 2019 • 10:57:41am

re: #309 mmmirele

Citizenship? I was born here in the US and so were my late parents. Does that make me deportable? ////

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Charles Johnson  May 4, 2019 • 11:01:24am
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DangerMan  May 4, 2019 • 11:04:51am

re: #315 Charles Johnson

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PS
She’s Canadian
Hes a Brit

Quaint that trump is concerned about the ‘rights’ of non-americans

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Chrysicat  May 4, 2019 • 11:05:19am

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(hidden because the top of the thread discusses things about me that some may think belong on Maury, not LGF. But the second tweet is a request for Kevin M. Kruse to tell me whether I’m right or paranoid about the rules to be a modern historian).

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Charles Johnson  May 4, 2019 • 11:05:41am
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Chrysicat  May 4, 2019 • 11:06:27am

re: #317 Chrysicat

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(hidden because the top of the thread discusses things about me that some may think belong on Maury, not LGF. But the second tweet is a request for Kevin M. Kruse to tell me whether I’m right or paranoid about the rules to be a modern historian).

Fixed the ‘you’ in the non-private section so it reads ‘me’ as I intended it to…

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Shropshire Slasher  May 4, 2019 • 11:08:11am

re: #309 mmmirele

I’m not going to answer a citizenship question if it’s on the 2020 census. I’m going to leave that sucker blank out of protest. And I think everyone else should, as well. It’s none of their g-d business.

I tried that once with a different question. They just come to your door.

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Chrysicat  May 4, 2019 • 11:09:32am

re: #314 PhillyPretzel

Citizenship? I was born here in the US and so were my late parents. Does that make me deportable? ////

You know full well what I think their answer is, because I ranted about it almost two years ago—I think they intend to retroactively determine anyone who didn’t have two natural-born-citizen parents (not naturalised ones) is a naturalised citizen themselves, and that thus they can chain-strip citizenship from entire family lines, so yes, you would be.

And I really hope to be proven wrong.

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PhillyPretzel  May 4, 2019 • 11:13:20am

re: #321 Chrysicat

Same here. These “tests” are stupid. Immigrants are what made this country what it is today. DT with his ignorance is destroying this country.

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Chrysicat  May 4, 2019 • 11:13:52am

re: #321 Chrysicat

You know full well what I think their answer is, because I ranted about it almost two years ago—I think they intend to retroactively determine anyone who didn’t have two natural-born-citizen parents (not naturalised ones) is a naturalised citizen themselves, and that thus they can chain-strip citizenship from entire family lines, so yes, you would be.

And I really hope to be proven wrong.

Or no, wait, now I recall. “Children of already-naturalised citizens” are the only natural-born citizens, but that citizenship is only valid if the parent literally never committed even a misdemeanour—if they did, they ‘should have their citizenship stripped’ and now the child has to count as naturalised, not natural-born.

Still a way to chain-strip. And unlikely to be used on WASPS, slightly more so on white Catholics, and if someone’s brown, almost inevitable.

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mmmirele  May 4, 2019 • 11:14:40am

re: #320 Shropshire Slasher

I tried that once with a different question. They just come to your door.

I do know that. I had a friend who had a follow up where they wanted to know information about his house and he went through a huge tussle with them. But I won’t answer the question, and if they do show up at my door, I’ll make a point to answer it in my underwear. My parents didn’t have that question to answer in 1970 and 1980, and I didn’t answer that question in 1990, 2000 and 2010, and I won’t answer it in 2020.

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Charles Johnson  May 4, 2019 • 11:15:51am
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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 4, 2019 • 11:17:15am
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jaunte  May 4, 2019 • 11:18:18am

re: #326 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

Oh boy. I look forward to all that asbestos.

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mmmirele  May 4, 2019 • 11:18:30am

re: #321 Chrysicat

You know full well what I think their answer is, because I ranted about it almost two years ago—I think they intend to retroactively determine anyone who didn’t have two natural-born-citizen parents (not naturalised ones) is a naturalised citizen themselves, and that thus they can chain-strip citizenship from entire family lines, so yes, you would be.

And I really hope to be proven wrong.

You know why I won’t answer the question? Because I remember reading about what the Nazis did with the punch card technology they bought from IBM. Yeah, they tabulated information about their undesirables in a census and then used it. Fuck that noise, I’m not going to help the government on this one.

en.wikipedia.org (Iink goes to IBM and the Holocaust)

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jaunte  May 4, 2019 • 11:19:05am
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allegro  May 4, 2019 • 11:24:32am

re: #317 Chrysicat

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Belafon  May 4, 2019 • 11:27:01am

Free comic book day. At Madness comics in Plano, Kevin Sorbo is here. I don’t really care to see him.

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Charles Johnson  May 4, 2019 • 11:27:03am
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Belafon  May 4, 2019 • 11:27:22am

Jones Heder is here as well.

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Belafon  May 4, 2019 • 11:29:29am

re: #329 jaunte

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Which is fine, as long as the good side wins.

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Chrysicat  May 4, 2019 • 11:30:17am

re: #333 Belafon

Jones Heder is here as well.

You’d think Plano wouldn’t exactly welcome him. Yes, he’s a socon, but he’s still “not a Christian” by being LDS…

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Chrysicat  May 4, 2019 • 11:31:17am

re: #335 Chrysicat

Also, wow. Either the shop owner is an absolute ‘canoe, or they have no faith in their customer base not to be.

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Charles Johnson  May 4, 2019 • 11:31:29am
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Chrysicat  May 4, 2019 • 11:32:27am
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Charles Johnson  May 4, 2019 • 11:34:38am

A band I really don’t get, and don’t understand why they’re popular: Vampire Weekend.

They’re not awful like Nickelback. They’re just… meh.

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Chrysicat  May 4, 2019 • 11:35:46am

re: #339 Charles Johnson

A band I really don’t get, and don’t understand why they’re popular: Vampire Weekend.

They’re not awful like Nickelback. They’re just… meh.

What’s your take on Silversun Pickups, or Phoenix, or The Killers, if you’re out on VW?

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Old Liberal  May 4, 2019 • 11:37:54am

re: #309 mmmirele

I’m not going to answer a citizenship question if it’s on the 2020 census. I’m going to leave that sucker blank out of protest. And I think everyone else should, as well. It’s none of their g-d business.

I agree. Unless the Supreme Court says a no answer means not a citizen. Census data is not to be used for other purposes but of course we live in the Barr Kavanaugh era

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Old Liberal  May 4, 2019 • 11:39:59am

re: #320 Shropshire Slasher

I tried that once with a different question. They just come to your door.

You don’t have to answer all questions. Also can say “He’s not here”

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jaunte  May 4, 2019 • 11:40:58am
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Old Liberal  May 4, 2019 • 11:44:52am

From what I understand those in the know say that ongoing random census surveying is equal to or better than the 10 year census. But the 10 year is required by the constitution. Drumpfs gang is ill-prepared by some accounts. Might be a complete CF

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makeitstop  May 4, 2019 • 11:46:30am

re: #339 Charles Johnson

A band I really don’t get, and don’t understand why they’re popular: Vampire Weekend.

They’re not awful like Nickelback. They’re just… meh.

I’ve always used the word ‘twee’ to describe them. A couple of their songs are bouncy in a radio-friendly kind of way, but they never seem to put any muscle behind what they do. It’s all so…moderate, or something.

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makeitstop  May 4, 2019 • 11:49:12am

re: #340 Chrysicat

What’s your take on Silversun Pickups, or Phoenix, or The Killers, if you’re out on VW?

I like The Killers a lot. Brandon seems to be a good guy, and they write some pretty good songs.

Can’t speak to Phoenix, since I’ve probably only heard a couple of their songs ever. Silversun strikes me as a very light version of Smashing Pumpkins, right down to the initials. :)

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Belafon  May 4, 2019 • 11:52:22am

re: #336 Chrysicat

Also, wow. Either the shop owner is an absolute ‘canoe, or they have no faith in their customer base not to be.

Comic Con Fan Daze Dallas is this weekend, so they’re probably scraping the bottom of the barrel.

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ipsos  May 4, 2019 • 11:57:19am

re: #344 Old Liberal

From what I understand those in the know say that ongoing random census surveying is equal to or better than the 10 year census. But the 10 year is required by the constitution. Drumpfs gang is ill-prepared by some accounts. Might be a complete CF

The Constitution mandates a census every 10 years but does not prohibit doing one more often.

If the 2020 Census is a CF and we get a Democratic president and congress anyway, run a new Census again in 2022 and get it right.

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Charles Johnson  May 4, 2019 • 12:02:33pm
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PhillyPretzel  May 4, 2019 • 12:03:45pm

I just finished installing my portable A/C unit into my bedroom window. It is vacuumed out and tested. Then I cleaned up my room and reattached the Wi-Fi. I am ready for the hot season.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 4, 2019 • 12:13:34pm

re: #349 Charles Johnson

Heah?

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PhillyPretzel  May 4, 2019 • 12:15:40pm

re: #351 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

They do not know how to use the English language but in their own minds they have PhD’s.

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Teukka  May 4, 2019 • 12:18:25pm

Sadly, I concur with JJ. :(

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jaunte  May 4, 2019 • 12:30:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2019 • 12:30:41pm

re: #323 Chrysicat

Or no, wait, now I recall. “Children of already-naturalised citizens” are the only natural-born citizens, but that citizenship is only valid if the parent literally never committed even a misdemeanour—if they did, they ‘should have their citizenship stripped’ and now the child has to count as naturalised, not natural-born.

Still a way to chain-strip. And unlikely to be used on WASPS, slightly more so on white Catholics, and if someone’s brown, almost inevitable.

My grandmother, born in Pennsylvania, lost her American citizenship in 1918 when she married my grandfather (who was born in Budapest but not an American citizen) in NYC.
My grandmother was never granted back her citizenship, and she died in the late 1980s.
My paternal grandmother’s father left Ireland under circumstances I will not discuss right now, but went to Canada and then walked over the border to the USA, thus an ill eagle.

I’ve got lots of bases covered.

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jaunte  May 4, 2019 • 12:33:19pm
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allegro  May 4, 2019 • 12:37:26pm

re: #356 jaunte

That’s a shoe. On her head.

No further comment is needed.

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PhillyPretzel  May 4, 2019 • 12:37:46pm

re: #356 jaunte

Next to Britain’s Ascot the Kentucky Derby has some of the most outlandish hats and matching fashion.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 4, 2019 • 12:38:18pm

re: #342 Old Liberal

You don’t have to answer all questions. Also can say “He’s not here”

I live in a small town, I knew the person, and to be honest, it was kind of embarrassing.

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wrenchwench  May 4, 2019 • 12:41:33pm

re: #356 jaunte

[Unpopular take: … the Kentucky Derby…]

There was a sports segment on the news today where they spoke about horse doping (without calling it that) and all the recent horse deaths at Santa Anita, and the host said, ‘Does horse racing have a kind of problem say, like the NFL and CTE?’ For some reason I thought they were going to talk about jockeys, but no. Horses, and not their heads, either.

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Old Liberal  May 4, 2019 • 12:45:36pm

re: #359 Shropshire Slasher

I live in a small town, I knew the person, and to be honest, it was kind of embarrassing.

I worked door to door on the 2000 census in a big suburb. Didn’t know anyone so “he’s not here “ was effective on me.

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garzooma  May 4, 2019 • 12:46:04pm

re: #357 allegro

That’s a shoe. On her head.

No further comment is needed.

That picture is from the movie (worth seeing if only for DeNiro’s brief appearances). The picture on the right presumably is real.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2019 • 12:47:21pm

re: #354 jaunte

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 4, 2019 • 12:50:01pm

re: #356 jaunte

The people from the Capital in Hunger Games.

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Chrysicat  May 4, 2019 • 12:50:20pm
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jaunte  May 4, 2019 • 12:59:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2019 • 1:08:09pm
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steve_davis  May 4, 2019 • 1:08:46pm

re: #62 allegro

Until about maybe 6 months ago I can’t recall ever seeing this word used anywhere but old timey texts, and never in normal every-day conversation. In the last few months I’ve seen/heard it all over the place - this is the second time today I’ve seen it here. I even talked about it to a friend (a retired professional writer) a while back and he agreed that this is not a word he has ever seen commonly used before in his lifetime.

Is it just me?

it’s been around. I was tempted about 10 years ago to get a bespoke suit from Hong Kong. It’s gotten to where you can have your measurements taken here and they’ll tailor the suit for you there, then ship it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 4, 2019 • 1:10:21pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 4, 2019 • 1:20:38pm

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

2nd Amendment , Yeah, bro


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