Trump: Mueller Should Not Testify to Congress Because I’m Completely Innocent

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Trump has been yelling “NO COLLUSION” over and over. He’s even using it as his greetings and goodbyes — instead of “Hello” he yells “NO COLLUSION” two or three times in a row.

So, since Robert Mueller’s report completely exonerated him (narrator: actually, the report said specifically he was not exonerated), and concluded there was “NO COLLUSION” (narrator: actually, the report came to no conclusion about this), why in the world would he be so vehemently opposed to having Mueller testify publicly about it?

You know how when you see someone loudly, repeatedly proclaiming their innocence and lying about things that are easily checked, you just sort of know that person is guilty as hell? Yeah, that.

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147 comments

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 5, 2019 • 12:04:48pm

Laura Loomer’s life is completely ruined! Check out @goldengateblond’s Tweet:

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PhillyPretzel  May 5, 2019 • 12:06:39pm

DT is using if you tell a lie often and frequently it becomes true theory. While it may sometimes work for some I do not think it will work well for DT.

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Charles Johnson  May 5, 2019 • 12:06:55pm

re: #1 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Good grief, she is so incredibly annoying.

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sizzzzlerz  May 5, 2019 • 12:07:09pm

Hell, I’d invite him to testify just to see if it would cause trump to have a coronary.

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makeitstop  May 5, 2019 • 12:09:06pm

re: #1 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Laura Loomer’s life is completely ruined! Check out @goldengateblond’s Tweet:

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How pathetic is that? She can’t post racist shit on a web site, so her life is completely ruined?

I’d say if that’s the criterion, she didn’t have much of a life to begin with.

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jaunte  May 5, 2019 • 12:09:32pm
You know how when you see someone loudly, repeatedly proclaiming their innocence and lying about things that are easily checked, you just sort of know that person is guilty as hell? Yeah, that.

It’s weird how that propaganda technique of continually repeating a lie is countered by most normal human perceptions.

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Decatur Deb  May 5, 2019 • 12:13:14pm

re: #6 jaunte

It’s weird how that propaganda technique of continually repeating a lie is countered by most normal human perceptions.

Unless people crave the lie.

…man hears what he wants to hear,
And disregards the rest.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 5, 2019 • 12:13:51pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Good grief, she is so incredibly annoying.

Even Alex Jones was annoyed!

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Patricia Kayden  May 5, 2019 • 12:13:53pm
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makeitstop  May 5, 2019 • 12:13:59pm

This response…

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lizardofid  May 5, 2019 • 12:16:15pm

re: #7 Decatur Deb

Unless people crave the lie.

Man hears what he wants to hear,
And disregards the rest.

Lie la Lie

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 5, 2019 • 12:20:47pm

re: #1 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Laura Loomer’s life is completely ruined! Check out @goldengateblond’s Tweet:

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Long distance dedication to that ass!

Edith Massey - Big Girls Don’t Cry (7” Single 1982)

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Patricia Kayden  May 5, 2019 • 12:29:31pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  May 5, 2019 • 12:36:59pm

Question. Is anything or anyone preventing Laura Loomer from getting a job?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 5, 2019 • 12:38:27pm

re: #14 I Would Prefer Not To

Question. Is anything or anyone preventing Laura Loomer from getting a job?

Would you want to hire it for anything?

I wouldn’t

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jaunte  May 5, 2019 • 12:41:46pm

re: #14 I Would Prefer Not To

Question. Is anything or anyone preventing Laura Loomer from getting a job?

Sucker’s money for nothing.

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HappyWarrior  May 5, 2019 • 12:41:59pm

re: #14 I Would Prefer Not To

Question. Is anything or anyone preventing Laura Loomer from getting a job?

Yes, Laura Loomer.

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HappyWarrior  May 5, 2019 • 12:42:17pm

re: #16 jaunte

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Sucker’s money for nothing.

Goddamn.

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Patricia Kayden  May 5, 2019 • 12:51:50pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 5, 2019 • 12:53:06pm

re: #16 jaunte

She can sue all she wants. She cannot force a private forum to host her racism. Just like I can’t force Conservative websites/blogs to host my liberal/progressive/anti-Trump comments.

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HappyWarrior  May 5, 2019 • 12:54:20pm

re: #20 Patricia Kayden

She can sue all she wants. She cannot force a private forum to host her racism. Just like I can’t force Conservative websites/blogs to host my liberal/progressive/anti-Trump comments.

Exactly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2019 • 12:56:49pm

re: #20 Patricia Kayden

She can sue all she wants. She cannot force a private forum to host her racism. Just like I can’t force Conservative websites/blogs to host my liberal/progressive/anti-Trump comments.

she’s not going to sue anyone…she’s just going to pocket all of that “legal defense” money

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 5, 2019 • 1:00:39pm

re: #14 I Would Prefer Not To

Question. Is anything or anyone preventing Laura Loomer from getting a job?

Laura Loomer.

EDIT: Annd I see someone beat me to it.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 5, 2019 • 1:08:15pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

Laura Loomer.

EDIT: Annd I see someone beat me to it.

Drives me crazy. She’s so fucking entitled. As far as I can see has never worked for anything in her life. Fuck her.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 5, 2019 • 1:09:30pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

re: #24 I Would Prefer Not To

Drives me crazy. She’s so fucking entitled. As far as I can see has never worked for anything in her life. Fuck her.

I agree.

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William Lewis  May 5, 2019 • 1:16:07pm

re: #24 I Would Prefer Not To

Drives me crazy. She’s so fucking entitled. As far as I can see has never worked for anything in her life. Fuck her.

Uh… no thanks?

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Patricia Kayden  May 5, 2019 • 1:19:29pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 5, 2019 • 1:21:52pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

I forget that these idiots are all about the grifting. You’re probably right.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 5, 2019 • 1:31:14pm

re: #1 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Laura Loomer’s life is completely ruined! Check out @goldengateblond’s Tweet:

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Laura Loomer is the Chuck C. Johnson of Pamela Gellers.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 5, 2019 • 1:33:01pm

re: #29 The Vicious Babushka

Laura Loomer is the Orly Taitz of Ann Coulter.

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makeitstop  May 5, 2019 • 1:44:36pm

Laura Loomer is the Tomi Lehren of Debbie Schlussels.

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Patricia Kayden  May 5, 2019 • 1:46:42pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 5, 2019 • 1:59:53pm

Can someone explain to me how Barr managed to skip that hearing and not be penalized for it?

Surely the Dems aren’t going to just let him walk away.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 5, 2019 • 2:00:30pm

Trump still has a lot of Executive aces up his sleeve and has not even begun to pull them out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 5, 2019 • 2:01:35pm

re: #30 Eric The Fruit Bat

Laura Loomer is the Orly Taitz of Ann Coulter.

Laura Loomer is the pure distilled essence of Sarah Palin

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2019 • 2:02:28pm

re: #33 Eclectic Cyborg

Can someone explain to me how Barr managed to skip that hearing and not be penalized for it?

Surely the Dems aren’t going to just let him walk away.

9 am Monday is almost here

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Belafon  May 5, 2019 • 2:02:48pm

re: #32 Patricia Kayden

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They’re not exactly talking about the same thing, though. We’re in that part of the car chase where the helicopter is just starting to follow the suspect. The car is ahead of the cops, going the wrong way on streets. He’s winning, of course, because you can see it on television.

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Jay C  May 5, 2019 • 2:17:29pm

Maybe OT, but any Lizards know a method of avoiding email spam-bombs?
My wife and I (we were the only names we recognized on the recipient list) just got about 350 bogus emails (no text, just a few numbers/letters) from unknown senders, sent in blocks of 50 or so. No links, fortunately, - and we blocked and deleted them, but it’s definitely a PITA. I’m guessing there’s not much that can be done, but thought maybe the LGF braintrust might know a way to avoid them.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 5, 2019 • 2:25:10pm

From an FB friend (restricted page)

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 5, 2019 • 2:28:09pm

re: #38 Jay C

Looks like you only option is to block the sender or senders.

Did a Google search for E-Mail bomber apps. There is a shit load of programs available.

Some people have way to much free time on their hands.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 5, 2019 • 2:30:01pm

re: #39 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

From an FB friend (restricted page)

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What kind of business owner leaves a fucking gun on his counter where it is EASILY ACCESSIBLE BY CUSTOMERS?? Good fucking grief.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  May 5, 2019 • 2:33:54pm

re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg

What kind of business owner leaves a fucking gun on his counter where it is EASILY ACCESSIBLE BY CUSTOMERS?? Good fucking grief.

One who is about to become bankrupt.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2019 • 2:37:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2019 • 2:40:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2019 • 2:42:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2019 • 2:48:41pm
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PhillyPretzel  May 5, 2019 • 2:50:32pm

re: #46 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just imagine if she had done the same thing as to the last episode of Downton Abbey.

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Jay C  May 5, 2019 • 2:50:41pm

re: #40 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Thanks. I didn’t think there was much I could do: just hoping there was a lazy simple way to get rid of the spam….

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Teddy's Person  May 5, 2019 • 2:52:10pm

News to help restore my faith in humanity. I’m leaning toward Warren or Harris (don’t vote in the primary until March 2019), but this is nice.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2019 • 2:58:26pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 5, 2019 • 2:58:51pm

re: #39 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I have a more-than-usual interest in accidental discharges, since I am still occasionally annoyed by the 37 year old tunnel of scar tissue through my left leg.

Wikipedia Gun violence in the United States

In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 persons), and 33,636 deaths due to “injury by firearms” (10.6 deaths per 100,000 persons). These deaths included 21,175 suicides, 11,208 homicides, 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with “undetermined intent”.

It is quite striking, and I think under-reported, that a sizable majority of gun deaths are actually suicides. In their homicidal ignorance, gun humpers will say that suicide victims would just find another way, but nothing is as easy or as certain as a gun.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  May 5, 2019 • 3:01:18pm

So, guns enable both successful suicides and successful mass killings. 🤔

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2019 • 3:04:58pm

stollen…STOLLEN he says!

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makeitstop  May 5, 2019 • 3:05:41pm

Beto has hopped on the impeachment train.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 5, 2019 • 3:07:09pm

re: #52 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

So, guns enable both successful suicides and successful mass killings. 🤔

From the wikipedia article:

90% of all suicides attempted using a firearm result in a fatality, as opposed to less than 3% of suicide attempts involving cutting or drug-use.

That is a damning statistic. Not thousands, but hundreds of thousands, of people would be alive today if they hadn’t had access to guns.

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PhillyPretzel  May 5, 2019 • 3:07:17pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

Quick. Someone make a screen print before DT’s staff corrects the misspelling.

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DangerMan  May 5, 2019 • 3:09:09pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

stollen…STOLLEN he says!

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PhillyPretzel  May 5, 2019 • 3:10:01pm

re: #57 DangerMan

That looks good. :)

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Decatur Deb  May 5, 2019 • 3:18:40pm

re: #51 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

…but nothing is as easy or as certain as a gun.

You say that as though it were a bad thing.

(That’s a semi-joke of questionable taste, and their effectiveness is popularly overrated.)

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The Vicious Babushka  May 5, 2019 • 3:22:55pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 5, 2019 • 3:23:19pm

So has anybody else looked at the new HBO min-series Chernobyl?
Looks to be pretty intense.

Chernobyl (2019) | Official Trailer | HBO

Starts tomorrow.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 5, 2019 • 3:26:13pm

re: #61 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

So has anybody else looked at the new HBO min-series Chernobyl?
Looks to be pretty intense.

Chernobyl (2019) | Official Trailer | HBO

Starts tomorrow.

I was going to check it our. The trailer was good.

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Romantic Heretic  May 5, 2019 • 3:27:26pm

re: #32 Patricia Kayden

The world is not going to come to an end if America falls apart.

Man. Americans think they are so fucking special.

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uncah91  May 5, 2019 • 3:31:04pm

re: #48 Jay C

Thanks. I didn’t think there was much I could do: just hoping there was a lazy simple way to get rid of the spam….

Gmail is actually remarkable in how well it segregates mass, impersonal mailings from other stuff.

It might be possible to create a gmail account and forward everything from your current account to that one…

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Decatur Deb  May 5, 2019 • 3:37:18pm

re: #63 Romantic Heretic

The world is not going to come to an end if America falls apart.

Man. Americans think they are so fucking special.

It’s not that we’re so special, but we are the only country with a very large nuclear arsenal and fairly democratic institutions. So yes, the US is the best hope for the next few hundred years. That’s an obligation, not a boast.

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Jay C  May 5, 2019 • 3:37:26pm

re: #49 Teddy’s Person

News to help restore my faith in humanity. I’m leaning toward Warren or Harris (don’t vote in the primary until March 2019), but this is nice.

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A couple of nice things learned from that piece: one, I’m impressed that Pete Buttigieg volunteered for Habitat for Humanity, second, that he’d actually seek out Jimmy Carter, even if just to hang out: most Democrats seem to avoid old Jimmeh like a virus (though I think the attitude is more than reciprocated)

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Romantic Heretic  May 5, 2019 • 3:37:36pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

“When did America stop being great?” is the question I always ask when the orange citrus golem starts barking.

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Targetpractice  May 5, 2019 • 3:38:07pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

stollen…STOLLEN he says!

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The spelling mistake aside (what happened to auto-correct?), I’m rather curious as to what he means by 2 years being “stolen”? What does he think that the investigation his own DOJ started and was prosecuted by a member of his own party prevented him from doing something that he would have been able to accomplish otherwise?

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Jay C  May 5, 2019 • 3:40:21pm

re: #64 uncah91

Gmail is actually remarkable in how well it segregates mass, impersonal mailings from other stuff.

It might be possible to create a gmail account and forward everything from your current account to that one…

Thanks.
But my main email account IS gmail.
And I think the problem is fixed. For now, anyway.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 5, 2019 • 3:40:41pm

Oh hell. Death count is up to 41 in the Moscow plane crash.

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steve_davis  May 5, 2019 • 3:41:16pm

re: #61 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

So has anybody else looked at the new HBO min-series Chernobyl?
Looks to be pretty intense.

Chernobyl (2019) | Official Trailer | HBO

Starts tomorrow.

oh, tomorrow?! well hot damn. i thought from their little blurb on amazon that it was june 1st.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 5, 2019 • 3:41:50pm

re: #68 Targetpractice

The spelling mistake aside (what happened to auto-correct?), I’m rather curious as to what he means by 2 years being “stolen”? What does he think that the investigation his own DOJ started and was prosecuted by a member of his own party prevented him from doing something that he would have been able to accomplish otherwise?

He wants to shut it all down, but it’s too late.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 5, 2019 • 3:42:35pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 5, 2019 • 3:45:28pm

re: #71 steve_davis

oh, tomorrow?! well hot damn. i thought from their little blurb on amazon that it was june 1st.

Nope. Tomorrow

Bonus: Chernobyl: Save the Date trailer.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 5, 2019 • 3:46:28pm

re: #70 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Oh hell. Death count is up to 41 in the Moscow plane crash.

Thew Sukohi Superjet 100 family appears to be following the 737 MAX.

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uncah91  May 5, 2019 • 3:51:07pm

re: #69 Jay C

If it happens again, or you get more, you can try using a custom filter to find all the emails at once and mass delete them…

webapps.stackexchange.com

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goddamnedfrank  May 5, 2019 • 3:53:08pm

OMFG this thread!

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jaunte  May 5, 2019 • 4:01:27pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

they have stollen two years of my (our) Presidency (Collusion Delusion) that we will never be able to get back…..

This is Trump, creeping up on grabbing president-for-life status.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 5, 2019 • 4:02:14pm

re: #78 jaunte

This is Trump, creeping up on grabbing president-for-life status.

But we can’t even consider impeachment because of reasons.

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Decatur Deb  May 5, 2019 • 4:03:07pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

OMFG this thread!

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If shit had more RL consequences, there would be less shit.

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jaunte  May 5, 2019 • 4:03:15pm

re: #79 I Would Prefer Not To

He’s already got Franklin Graham agitating for adding two more years to this term. How long before all the magats start chanting it in unison.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 5, 2019 • 4:03:28pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 5, 2019 • 4:03:41pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

OMFG this thread!

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She burned his dumb ass into the ground. So did Katelyn @transscibe

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2019 • 4:04:42pm

re: #80 Decatur Deb

If shit had more RL consequences, there would be less shit.

well, she has named and shamed him, and he’s deleted his twitter.
plus he’s in major shit with his employer (and most likely his wife as well).

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HappyWarrior  May 5, 2019 • 4:05:03pm

This isn’t going to be an easy transition of power is it)

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jaunte  May 5, 2019 • 4:06:20pm

Lou Dobbs, of course, going for the triple-unconstitutional backflip.

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Decatur Deb  May 5, 2019 • 4:07:13pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

well, she has named and shamed him, and he’s deleted his twitter.
plus he’s in major shit with his employer (and most likely his wife as well).

He’ll be missed, whoever he is.

Dixie Chicks - Goodbye Earl

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Belafon  May 5, 2019 • 4:07:30pm

re: #60 The Vicious Babushka

Those are Iowa plates.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 5, 2019 • 4:08:00pm

I can’t for the life of me figure out why someone would be parachuting there

Google map tinyurl.com

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Decatur Deb  May 5, 2019 • 4:10:25pm

re: #89 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I can’t for the life of me figure out why someone would be parachuting there

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Google map tinyurl.com

Two sport jump clubs in the JAX area. I’ve climbed out of one 80’ tree I didn’t climb into.

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Belafon  May 5, 2019 • 4:13:10pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

From her timeline:

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jaunte  May 5, 2019 • 4:13:24pm
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Belafon  May 5, 2019 • 4:14:23pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

This isn’t going to be an easy transition of power is it)

No. But the end of a fascist regime rarely is.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 5, 2019 • 4:15:21pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

Two sport jump clubs in the JAX area. I’ve climbed out of one 80’ tree I didn’t climb into.

But it’s not near any airport.
Ya skydive next to your airfield so you can make other jumps that day.
You also don’t jump a couple hundred meters from a major interstate interchange. For pretty obvious reasons

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Rightwingconspirator  May 5, 2019 • 4:16:56pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

This isn’t going to be an easy transition of power is it)

It will if we win big. Well easier for us than Trump.
(Perp walk)

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Rightwingconspirator  May 5, 2019 • 4:19:30pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

This isn’t going to be an easy transition of power is it)

I think Trump could be indicted the minute the election goes against him. The first lame duck minute. He may be unable to attend the inaugural, as in posting bail.

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Belafon  May 5, 2019 • 4:19:42pm

re: #82 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Yeah, let’s ask Clinton and Obama about lost years.

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Belafon  May 5, 2019 • 4:20:20pm

re: #96 Unshaken Defiance

I think Trump could be indicted the minute the election goes against him. The first lame duck minute. He may be unable to attend the inaugural, as in posting bail.

I think he’s a flight risk, and might be in fear for his life from Putin.

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Belafon  May 5, 2019 • 4:21:00pm

It’s a good thing one of the founders didn’t write was that the presidency has to be passed on.

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Decatur Deb  May 5, 2019 • 4:21:14pm

re: #94 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

But it’s not near any airport.
Ya skydive next to your airfield so you can make other jumps that day.
You also don’t jump a couple hundred meters from a major interstate interchange. For pretty obvious reasons

NAS about 5 mi away. A punchout, or the stirring tale of a bad student meeting a bad jumpmaster?

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Targetpractice  May 5, 2019 • 4:21:40pm

re: #97 Belafon

Yeah, let’s ask Clinton and Obama about lost years.

No shit. 6 years was spent on Whitewater alone, followed by 2 months of messing around with impeachment before he was acquitted. When does he get that time added to his presidency?

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2019 • 4:23:20pm

Actually I don’t think Putin has any real interest in harming Trump. Trump will be trouble for the US government and the country after he leaves office, and whether he is convicted of something or not. He will be a rallying point for disaffected nutjobs for years to come, and I expect he’ll continue to cause damage to the GOP since they’ve doubled down so much backing him they will have trouble for a few decades even starting to back away from it.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 5, 2019 • 4:23:37pm

re: #95 Unshaken Defiance

It will if we win big. Well easier for us than Trump.
(Perp walk)

Nope. We can win by a landslide or by the hair on our chinny chin chin. The narcissistic asshole will have to be removed by force come inauguration day.

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Interesting Times  May 5, 2019 • 4:27:12pm

re: #103 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Nope. We can win by a landslide or by the hair on our chinny chin chin. The narcissistic asshole will have to be removed by force come inauguration day.

My prediction is that GOPers will put out every stop imaginable to cheat their way to a win (e.g. throwing out absentee ballots from black voters like that NC congressional race, letting the Russians hack voter registration systems, etc).

All we can do is plan for it and figure out a workable method to fight back.

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lawhawk  May 5, 2019 • 4:27:53pm

re: #61 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

So has anybody else looked at the new HBO min-series Chernobyl?
Looks to be pretty intense.

Chernobyl (2019) | Official Trailer | HBO

Starts tomorrow.

I picked up the new book Midnight at Chernobyl at the library and didn’t even realize that the HBO miniseries was upon us.

I’d suggest reading the book as it gives even more depth to what happened and the aftermath. It’s 33 years after the fact, and most of the world has moved on. The kinds of factors that go into a disaster such as that are still around us. We have nuclear reactors nearing the end of their lives, equipment ages, and storage facilities are nearing capacity with no national repository here in the US. Natural disasters could also lead to nuclear disaster as we saw with Fukushima.

Hubris is one of the great dangers, and the book shows how that can end up as every bad decision was compounded by even worse ones, even if they were made with good intentions.

One of the interesting facts was that despite the graphite fire and the decision to dump sand, boron, and other chemicals to suppress the fire, it turned out very little actually hit the exposed reactor core.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2019 • 4:32:13pm

re: #87 Decatur Deb

He’ll be missed, whoever he is.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 5, 2019 • 4:35:59pm

re: #100 Decatur Deb

NAS about 5 mi away. A punchout, or the stirring tale of a bad student meeting a bad jumpmaster?

I could bet no one is sport jumping on a Sunday at NAS JAX with a 737 still in the river
Plus I know one one the skydiving airfields is Herlong on the West Side tinyurl.com , And, i would assume that if another one is used, it would be Craig tinyurl.com
And, if someone punched out of a military aircraft, we probably would have heard about it by now

Only thing I can possibly figure maybe some kind of promotional event. But, there’s really nothing even close

Also, Ive seen plenty of folks land off. I’ve landed off. And when I did, I landed next to the runway on the wrong end. Not damn near out of the county

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 5, 2019 • 4:36:13pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 5, 2019 • 4:37:02pm
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Targetpractice  May 5, 2019 • 4:37:05pm

re: #108 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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I felt a disturbance in the Farce, as if millions of wingnuts gnashed their teeth and then found out nobody gave a shite.

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lawhawk  May 5, 2019 • 4:40:55pm

Missed the NIN thread Charles… been a huge fan of NIN since Pretty Hate Machine came out.

Year Zero is a great album that encapsulates so much of what is going on now - The Beginning of the End, The Great Destroyer, and Survivalism (with Discipline on The Slip being the immediate follow up with the video making that explicit).

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Decatur Deb  May 5, 2019 • 4:41:13pm

re: #107 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The Knox MWR club got crappy support from the command. The AVN U6s had to drop us out in the tank ranges. We left a lot of student chutes in trees.

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Belafon  May 5, 2019 • 4:45:55pm

It’s Omarosa, but:

Omarosa accuses White House of destroying evidence

Rev. Al Sharpton is joined Former White House Official under President Trump, Omarosa Manigualt Newman. She claims the White house is holding on to boxes of her emails that she thinks congressional committees would probably like to see.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 5, 2019 • 4:49:22pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 5, 2019 • 4:50:49pm

re: #114 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 5, 2019 • 4:52:07pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

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re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 5, 2019 • 4:55:07pm
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Teddy's Person  May 5, 2019 • 4:55:15pm

From Mother Jones

The Trump Files: There Once Was a Horse Named DJ Trump

spoiler: nothing about this story will suprise you

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 5, 2019 • 4:58:20pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 5, 2019 • 4:58:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2019 • 5:01:37pm
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piratedan  May 5, 2019 • 5:05:56pm

re: #109 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

but how will she ever own the Libs that she is “destined” to own if she is denied access to them. It’s a Conservative’s gawd given right to pwn libs, and you are obviously infringing on said rights, it has to be there in the Constitution…../////////////////////////////////////////////

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Targetpractice  May 5, 2019 • 5:06:15pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

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All I really hear in Donny’s tweets is a man who is desperately trying to explain why he’s such a failure. The only piece of major legislation he championed has popularity worse than gonorrhea and the others failed miserably or (as in the case with the new infrastructure bill) are so handicapped by the deficits caused by the tax cuts that his own party opposes them. He wants so badly to run on being this economic genius, but the polls show only his base of deadenders think they’re somehow magically benefiting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2019 • 5:07:38pm
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plansbandc  May 5, 2019 • 5:07:48pm
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Feline Fearless Leader  May 5, 2019 • 5:08:14pm

Trump’s base is so hyped to “own the libs” and brown people they don’t realize how much harm it does to them at the same time.

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SteelPH  May 5, 2019 • 5:10:14pm

re: #126 Feline Fearless Leader

Trump’s base is so hyped to “own the libs” and brown people they don’t realize how much harm it does to them at the same time.

Or they simply don’t care. Or even delight in said harm.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 5, 2019 • 5:12:03pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

I saw somewhere this morning that something like 2/3s of the injured were people who fell down supposedly running to shelters. Not from the missile strikes

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2019 • 5:14:38pm
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Decatur Deb  May 5, 2019 • 5:15:25pm

re: #119 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

FDD—There is a photo of the guy rescued from the tree in JAX. It looks very much like a powered chute, the kind pioneered by Dan Poynter. Mystery solved if he just flew into the tree after a short-field takeoff with the soft ultralight.

news4jax.com

“The first report is always wrong.” —Army incident reporting mantra.

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Skip Intro  May 5, 2019 • 5:16:33pm

re: #92 jaunte

Anybody think the media is going to do this? Anybody think the cable shows are going to “examine” both sides of this?

Me: No on 1, hell yes on 2.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2019 • 5:20:52pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 5, 2019 • 5:21:57pm

re: #130 Decatur Deb

FDD—There is a photo of the guy rescued from the tree in JAX. It looks very much like a powered chute, the kind pioneered by Dan Poynter. Mystery solved if he just flew into the tree after a short-field takeoff with the soft ultralight.

news4jax.com

“The first report is always wrong.” —Army incident reporting mantra.

There’s a long straight parking lot just south of there too

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2019 • 5:22:27pm
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Teukka  May 5, 2019 • 5:23:11pm

re: #61 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

So has anybody else looked at the new HBO min-series Chernobyl?
Looks to be pretty intense.

Chernobyl (2019) | Official Trailer | HBO

Starts tomorrow.

re: #62 I Would Prefer Not To

I was going to check it our. The trailer was good.

re: #105 lawhawk

I picked up the new book Midnight at Chernobyl at the library and didn’t even realize that the HBO miniseries was upon us.

I’d suggest reading the book as it gives even more depth to what happened and the aftermath. It’s 33 years after the fact, and most of the world has moved on. The kinds of factors that go into a disaster such as that are still around us. We have nuclear reactors nearing the end of their lives, equipment ages, and storage facilities are nearing capacity with no national repository here in the US. Natural disasters could also lead to nuclear disaster as we saw with Fukushima.

Hubris is one of the great dangers, and the book shows how that can end up as every bad decision was compounded by even worse ones, even if they were made with good intentions.

One of the interesting facts was that despite the graphite fire and the decision to dump sand, boron, and other chemicals to suppress the fire, it turned out very little actually hit the exposed reactor core.

Decided to get HBO just to watch the series (and some others I find interesting). If the trailer is representative of the series, it looks to take a similar route to BBC’s “Surviving Disaster: Chernobyl”, but without the nerfing or cutting down to size of the BBC version.

I suspect that cries from the usual crowd about the miniseries that “exagerates the danker and the horor” etc. will be heard. Nope. From what I’ve heard, the producers, like the producers of “Surviving Disaster: Chernobyl”, had an explicit aim for accuracy, only this one won’t pull as many punches. But I won’t be surprised if after a bit, a survivor goes on record and says “It was that bad … and then add some”.

If I begin getting reports the miniseries is pure, unadulterated nightmare fuel, I’ll know it hit its mark.

My primary checkmarks are if it truthfully tells the sad story of Valery Legasov (they sure picked the right actor to portray him), the utter horrors of radiation sickness (already in 1908, Dr. Charles Allen Porter had stated in an academic paper,
the agony of inflamed X-ray lesions is almost unequalled in any other disease.”), and the utter desperation with which the liquidators and others acted.

Secondary checkmarks is if correctly tells the story of the three unsung heroes of Chernobyl: Alexey Ananenko, Valery Bespalov, and Boris Baranov. Those three saved Europe from a far greater disaster, because if they hadn’t felt their way in the dark to the valves which emptied the basement levels from water, the Chernobyl disaster would’ve been orders of magnitude worse, with something like a 3 to 5 Mt blast centered on Unit IV.

Those four are people who I will properly honor as the heroes they are if I ever face the situation of being able to visit their graves or meet them in person (Legasov and one of the divers are dead).

HBO, don’t you fucking turn out to have dropped the ball on me.

Bonus thing: You know the public announcement scene in the trailer?
Check this out: upload.wikimedia.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2019 • 5:27:47pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 5, 2019 • 5:29:37pm

Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time Short Eyes!

nydailynews.com

A prominent YouTuber who pleaded guilty to urging six underage girls to send him sexually natured videos has been sentenced to a decade behind bars.

The 10-year sentence came down Friday against Austin Jones, who has a large following as a singer on YouTube, including many fans who are teenage girls.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 5, 2019 • 5:36:49pm
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The Vicious Babushka  May 5, 2019 • 5:44:26pm

...

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2019 • 5:45:03pm

wonder if he saw Katrina’s tweet

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wrenchwench  May 5, 2019 • 5:46:10pm

re: #138 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Brunei says it won’t enforce gay death penalty after backlash]

Sometimes backlash works.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2019 • 5:46:21pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 5, 2019 • 5:48:54pm

re: #137 Joe Bacon 🌹

Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time Short Eyes!

nydailynews.com

A prominent YouTuber who pleaded guilty to urging six underage girls to send him sexually natured videos has been sentenced to a decade behind bars.

The 10-year sentence came down Friday against Austin Jones, who has a large following as a singer on YouTube, including many fans who are teenage girls.

I iZ So Confuzed??? A YouTuber is sent to prison for 10 years for persuading underage girls to sext him while a bus driver will serve no time for actually raping a 14 year old??? nytimes.com

Please someone — explain this to me. I know that case was discussed here a few days ago — but I am bewildered. I know — different jurisdictions. Does any of this make sense?

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 5, 2019 • 5:49:13pm

re: #138 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Bullshit. They will not FORMALLY execute anybody. They’ll either disappear or have an unfortunate accident/illness.

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Skip Intro  May 5, 2019 • 5:49:33pm

UPDATE: Dem Backpedals On ‘Tentative’ Mueller Date For House Judiciary Testimony

Well, that’s a real non-surprise.

huffpost.com

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The Vicious Babushka  May 5, 2019 • 5:57:15pm

I found my Twitter doppelganger

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Belafon  May 5, 2019 • 5:57:21pm

re: #145 Skip Intro

UPDATE: Dem Backpedals On ‘Tentative’ Mueller Date For House Judiciary Testimony

Well, that’s a real non-surprise.

huffpost.com

You might should read the article:

Rep. David Cicilline (D-R.I.), a member of the House Judiciary Committee, walked back his statement from earlier Sunday claiming that special counsel Robert Mueller had agreed to the “tentative date” of May 15 to testify before the panel.

Cicilline, during an appearance on “Fox News Sunday,” said representatives for Mueller had agreed to the committee’s proposed date, but warned there’s no “absolute guarantee” that the former FBI chief would show up to testify.

“Just to clarify,” Cicilline tweeted hours after his Fox News interview, “we are aiming to bring Mueller in on the 15th, but nothing has been agreed to yet. That’s the date the Committee has proposed, and we hope the Special Counsel will agree to it. Sorry for the confusion.”


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