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1
Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 6, 2019 • 8:55:14pm

Impeach the bastard. Now.

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Targetpractice  May 6, 2019 • 8:57:01pm

GOP & Trump: “Sure, we think Mueller should testify. We believe he can offer more to understanding this report that totally exonerates the White House.”

Mueller: “Alright, I think Barr totally spun my report’s findings and…”

G&T: “WE DON’T NEED TO HEAR ANYTHING FROM MUELLER! IT’S ALL OVER, TRUMP WAS EXONERATED, WE NEED TO MOVE ON!”

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Anymouse 🌹  May 6, 2019 • 8:57:36pm

Left behind (like the movie) on the last thread:

Oh, boy, creationists are mad at Pat Robertson for throwing creationism under a bus.

Wow, when you’ve lost Pat Robertson … saying he’s an atheist and adopting “man’s pagan religion.”

Ken Ham does not understand “atheism,” “pagan,” or “religion.”

(Goes to Utah Outcasts, caution for coarse language, 10:14)

Creationists Are SUPER MAD at Pat Robertson

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 6, 2019 • 9:09:44pm

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹

“You know, this universe that we live in is about 14 billion years old and there’s no question about it,” Robertson claimed. “And we have tremendous geological records and all the rest of it. And that 6,000-year stuff just doesn’t compute. But we, as Christians, we need to know the truth.”

In describing the vastness of the universe, which He attributed to the hand of God, he then told viewers with a chuckle, “Let’s give God the credit for what He did and not try to limit Him to 6,000 years.”

Good Lord. Pat Robertson sounding almost rational??? We are totally through the looking glass here.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 6, 2019 • 9:10:48pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

Next up, he declares himself an atheist.

On second thought, no, we don’t want him.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 6, 2019 • 9:12:44pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

“You know, this universe that we live in is about 14 billion years old and there’s no question about it,” Robertson claimed. “And we have tremendous geological records and all the rest of it. And that 6,000-year stuff just doesn’t compute. But we, as Christians, we need to know the truth.”

In describing the vastness of the universe, which He attributed to the hand of God, he then told viewers with a chuckle, “Let’s give God the credit for what He did and not try to limit Him to 6,000 years.”

Good Lord. Pat Robertson sounding almost rational??? We are totally through the looking glass here.

He’s still a RWNJ, but he’s never believed in the young earth stuff.

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Belafon  May 6, 2019 • 9:18:53pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

“You know, this universe that we live in is about 14 billion years old and there’s no question about it,” Robertson claimed. “And we have tremendous geological records and all the rest of it. And that 6,000-year stuff just doesn’t compute. But we, as Christians, we need to know the truth.”

In describing the vastness of the universe, which He attributed to the hand of God, he then told viewers with a chuckle, “Let’s give God the credit for what He did and not try to limit Him to 6,000 years.”

Good Lord. Pat Robertson sounding almost rational??? We are totally through the looking glass here.

If I was going to believe in God, I would believe in the one who started things off 15B years ago with the snap of His fingers way more than one who created everything fully formed recently. The first one is actually way more powerful.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 6, 2019 • 9:19:12pm

For anyone who missed my earlier post about it, this past Saturday a tiny kitten ran up to me in our front yard. We’ve since taken her in. Since she came to us on May 4th, my wife suggested a Star Wars themed name. After considering many options we finally settled on one inspired by A New Hope.

Ladies and Gentlemen, meet Eisley. 🙂

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 6, 2019 • 9:27:05pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

For anyone who missed my earlier post about it, this past Saturday a tiny kitten ran up to me in our front yard. We’ve since taken her in. Since she came to us on May 4th, my wife suggested a Star Wars themed name. After considering many options we finally settled on one inspired by A New Hope.

Ladies and Gentlemen, meet Eisley. 🙂

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Clearly, she needs a buddy named Mos.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 6, 2019 • 9:27:12pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

For anyone who missed my earlier post about it, this past Saturday a tiny kitten ran up to me in our front yard. We’ve since taken her in. Since she came to us on May 4th, my wife suggested a Star Wars themed name. After considering many options we finally settled on one inspired by A New Hope.

Ladies and Gentlemen, meet Eisley. 🙂

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Isn’t Mos Eisley a wretched hive of scum and villany? /s

Pope Francis: You Don’t Want to Go There (goes to Juanita Jean’s)

Pope Francis warns hair stylists not to gossip.

Juanita Jean Herownself has a couple things to say about that.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 6, 2019 • 9:29:13pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

For anyone who missed my earlier post about it, this past Saturday a tiny kitten ran up to me in our front yard. We’ve since taken her in. Since she came to us on May 4th, my wife suggested a Star Wars themed name. After considering many options we finally settled on one inspired by A New Hope.

Ladies and Gentlemen, meet Eisley. 🙂

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As in the port?

Dude, you are so fucked. :-)

Mos Eisley spaceport.

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jaunte  May 6, 2019 • 9:32:05pm
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teleskiguy  May 6, 2019 • 9:40:38pm

whoa

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 6, 2019 • 9:46:22pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

whoa

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Am I wrong for finding all of those dresses hideously ugly?

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teleskiguy  May 6, 2019 • 9:48:51pm

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

Am I wrong for finding all of those dresses hideously ugly?

They’re supposed to be. The theme this year was “camp.”

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teleskiguy  May 6, 2019 • 9:50:08pm

Cardi B’s dress was a statement about menstruation, or so I’m told.

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teleskiguy  May 6, 2019 • 9:58:57pm

This is going to cause problems with hardcore Fuckface Von Clownstick supporters.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 6, 2019 • 10:00:03pm

re: #17 teleskiguy

This is going to cause problems with hardcore Fuckface Von Clownstick supporters.

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Does this mean Taco prices are going up?

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teleskiguy  May 6, 2019 • 10:04:02pm

Speaking of tacos, Wee Man sold everything and has embraced the van life, and his van is decked out nicely. He cooks a lot of tacos in the van.

Van Life with Wee Man | Converted Mercedes Sprinter

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 6, 2019 • 10:06:44pm

Sportspuck news: Colorado beats San Jose in Overtime. Winner take all Game 7 coming on Wednesday night.

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teleskiguy  May 6, 2019 • 10:16:56pm

re: #20 Eclectic Cyborg

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sagehen  May 6, 2019 • 10:24:25pm

So all you people listing horrible songs…

How is it possible nobody named Muskat Love? Or Afternoon Delight?

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 6, 2019 • 10:27:26pm

re: #22 sagehen

So all you people listing horrible songs…

How is it possible nobody named Muskat Love? Or Afternoon Delight?

Patches. (The one from 1962.)

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 6, 2019 • 10:28:23pm

re: #17 teleskiguy

This is going to cause problems with hardcore Fuckface Von Clownstick supporters.

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Well if they are the hard core prepper types, they know how to grow the damn things in a green house or hydroponically. Hell, I grew them both ways while learning how to grow pot.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 6, 2019 • 10:33:49pm

re: #22 sagehen

So all you people listing horrible songs…

How is it possible nobody named Muskat Love? Or Afternoon Delight?

I like Afternoon Delight.

(uncut music video, 3:02)

Starland Vocal Band - Afternoon Delight (1976) Uncut Video

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TedStriker  May 6, 2019 • 10:38:32pm

re: #19 teleskiguy

Speaking of tacos, Wee Man sold everything and has embraced the van life, and his van is decked out nicely. He cooks a lot of tacos in the van.

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Video

He’s sounds like he’s happy with it; good on him.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 6, 2019 • 10:42:32pm

Muskrat Love (Captain and Tennille, from their television show, 4:57, also commenting on Henry Kissinger)

Captain & Tennille MUSKRAT LOVE

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Hecuba's daughter  May 6, 2019 • 11:00:35pm

re: #6 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

He’s still a RWNJ, but he’s never believed in the young earth stuff.

Yep. He’s still a creationist but he has always slammed the YEC movement.

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teleskiguy  May 6, 2019 • 11:00:38pm

It’s my birthday. So whatever! Check out this noise! I think CuriousLurker would’ve loved it.

Desert Search For Techno Allah

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Hecuba's daughter  May 6, 2019 • 11:01:43pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

It’s my birthday. So whatever! Check out this noise! I think CuriousLurker would’ve loved it.

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Happy Birthday!! Have a great day — and a wonderful year!

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Dr Lizardo  May 6, 2019 • 11:02:33pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

And happy birthday!

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teleskiguy  May 6, 2019 • 11:03:07pm

I now have an expired state identification card, and I have to show up in person to the DMV to obtain a new one.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 6, 2019 • 11:03:09pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

It’s my birthday. So whatever! Check out this noise! I think CuriousLurker would’ve loved it.

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Happy birthday, SkiDude!

Happy Birthday!
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teleskiguy  May 6, 2019 • 11:05:39pm

I share a birthday with Bill Kreutzmann!

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teleskiguy  May 6, 2019 • 11:07:05pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

I now have an expired state identification card, and I have to show up in person to the DMV to obtain a new one.

That thing only got looked at by the cops three times in five years. Win!

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 6, 2019 • 11:10:20pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

Many happy returns!

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Hecuba's daughter  May 6, 2019 • 11:10:51pm

From downstairs — because I didn’t realize I was a couple threads behind

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

In 2005, Judge Kavanaugh had a net worth of $91K, with $10K in the bank and $25K in credit card debt:

In Feb. 2006, property records show he took out a $980K mortgage to finance the purchase of a $1,225,000 home — indicating a down payment of $245,000.

Is anyone investigating how Kavanaugh suddenly acquired his wealth? Or was the original report about his finances inaccurate?

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teleskiguy  May 6, 2019 • 11:12:38pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

That thing only got looked at by the cops three times in five years. Win!

They were all traffic stops. One for my light that lights up my rear license plate was out, one (one New Year’s Eve!) for not scraping my windows of frost adequately, and one for speeding. Two out of those three police encounters of mine involved women officers. And they were super cool.

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teleskiguy  May 6, 2019 • 11:14:24pm

re: #38 teleskiguy

And the dude officer was super cool too. I was let off with a warning in all three instances of cops looking at my now expired ID.

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teleskiguy  May 6, 2019 • 11:17:14pm
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Anymouse 🌹  May 6, 2019 • 11:20:55pm

re: #39 teleskiguy

And the dude officer was super cool too. I was let off with a warning in all three instances of cops looking at my now expired ID.

Last year I was pulled over on US-30 for speeding about a mile inside Nebraska from Pine Bluffs, Wyo.

I got a written warning, but mostly because I have the Gold Star Family plates on my car, veteran on my license, and I don’t think he really wanted to embarrass himself writing a speeding ticket for a Smart.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 6, 2019 • 11:25:41pm

re: #37 Hecuba’s daughter

From downstairs — because I didn’t realize I was a couple threads behind

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is anyone investigating how Kavanaugh suddenly acquired his wealth? Or was the original report about his finances inaccurate?

There was some questions raised about it before his nomination hearings, but nothing substantive came of it. Now that the Dems are in control, we can expect more serious actions to find out how Kavanaugh managed to become so flush with money so quickly.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 6, 2019 • 11:26:21pm

Worst song ever?
From the 1962 version of Lolita:

In his biography of The Ventures, Del Halterman quotes an unnamed reviewer of the CD re-release of the original Lolita soundtrack as saying “The highlight is the most frivolous track, ‘Lolita Ya Ya’, a maddeningly vapid and catchy instrumental with nonsense vocals that comes across as a simultaneously vicious and good-humored parody of the kitschiest elements of early-sixties rock and roll.”

Listen at your own risk:

Lolita Ya Ya (From the 1962 Kubrick Film ‘Lolita’)

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teleskiguy  May 6, 2019 • 11:38:12pm
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teleskiguy  May 6, 2019 • 11:40:34pm

I did it! Surpassed 150,000 Karma at LGF… ON MY BIRTHDAY!

I am an evil genius.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 6, 2019 • 11:41:19pm

re: #45 teleskiguy

I did it! Surpassed 150,000 Karma at LGF… ON MY BIRTHDAY!

I am an evil genius.

Fireworks.gif

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Anymouse 🌹  May 6, 2019 • 11:42:13pm

re: #45 teleskiguy

I did it! Surpassed 150,000 Karma at LGF… ON MY BIRTHDAY!

I am an evil genius.

I might be able to do the same … I’m closing on 150,000 and my birthday is the last day of the month.

Need lots of +100 votes.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 7, 2019 • 12:05:04am

Ethics in government.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 7, 2019 • 12:22:14am

re: #48 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

“leaves the appearance”? How about just stating “rewards a business partner,” NYT? Trump is a public figure. He can’t go over you for libel and win, unless he convinces the court you acted with malice. No one would believe the NYT is malicious toward Trump, not after three years of sucking up to him.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 7, 2019 • 12:46:42am

Juliette Kayyem at WaPo: Anti-vaxxers are dangerous. Make them face isolation, fines, arrests.

I love my children. And, if I’m in a gracious mood, I believe that parents who do not vaccinate their children love theirs as much as I love mine.

But, I am quite confident in this fact: I love their children much more than they love mine. These anti-vaxxer parents — call them free-riders or even pro-plague — are putting my children and our communities at risk to cater to their erroneous belief that vaccinations would harm their children rather than contribute to the elimination of childhood diseases.

It is time we stop viewing the anti-vax movement and its adherents’ responsibility for the measles outbreak as a public health problem. With more than 700 reported cases confirmed in 22 states, it is now a public safety crisis, and the tools of public safety — arrests, fines, isolation — are absolutely necessary.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 7, 2019 • 12:59:19am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 7, 2019 • 1:10:02am

re: #51 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

Springy aluminum baseball bat (which helps the ball goes farther) meets safety glass (which is tempered and kinda springy.) OW!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 7, 2019 • 1:30:03am

Speaking of the rogue Starbucks cup on the Game of Thrones banquet table in the latest episode, Joseph Mallozzi* blogs about some other recent property errors.

A snickers bar on the console of a spaceship.
A plastic water bottle on the mantle of a Downton Abbey fireplace.
josephmallozzi.com

I’m sure others will recall other famous ones.

* He’s the genius behind Dark Matter and many other SF shows.

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CleverToad  May 7, 2019 • 3:05:42am

re: #32 teleskiguy

Happy birthday, and may the lines not be too long at the DMV…

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CleverToad  May 7, 2019 • 3:29:03am

Driving by again, though I’m not lurking from the hospital wi-fi now so am more likely to log in when I get a few minutes.

Pneumonia sucks.
Old age has no dignity.
Family can be a blessing, if you’re exceptionally lucky.

We brought my mom home on hospice Saturday morning. She was in the hospital from April 22nd (my sister’s birthday) to May 4th (my nephew’s birthday). We’re in the held-breath stage of waiting to see if she will rally for a few days or even weeks, if I’m lucky; or if she’s ready to let go and ebb out, after 94 years.

But she’s home. Mostly sleeping, but she knows where she is. She knows she’s had the five kids she raised and the one she adopted later around her. She’s had seven of her twelve grandkids visit; another is coming soon; and one great-granddaughter is here. My brother came in for a week; my sisters have been here since April 25th & 26th — one just had to leave, two will be staying till Friday. All of her kids were together to make the big decisions about her care, about when to get her home. As much as we disagree on politics and some major issues, we can pull together for a crisis. And enjoy each other’s company. That seems to be incredibly rare; she counts that as her major accomplishment in a crowded, sometimes chaotic, often painful life — she prides herself that her kids like each other.

No idea how my husband and I are going to manage if she rallies slowly and needs more help than I can give her when everyone HAS to go home, but the hospice folks are wonderful, and I’ll burn that bridge if I come to it. For now she’s home, and we can keep her comfortable. That’s the task at hand.

yours from a new battlefront,
tired toad

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Decatur Deb  May 7, 2019 • 3:41:45am

A Tale of Two Headlines:

Trump pardons the former soldier who was convicted of murdering an Iraqi prisoner
The Washington Post
Yesterday

Trump pardons ex-Army lieutenant convicted of killing suspected Al Qaeda terrorist in 2009
Fox News
Yesterday

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Decatur Deb  May 7, 2019 • 3:43:31am

re: #55 CleverToad

Get some sleep while you’ve got the backup—forget hosting.

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dell*nix  May 7, 2019 • 3:50:42am

re: #55 CleverToad

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boredtechindenver  May 7, 2019 • 4:01:37am

Worst Song ever

BOBBY GOLDSBORO =HONEY=

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nowherenorth2  May 7, 2019 • 4:10:17am

So the woman who posted a massive anti-muslim meme gets to keep her job as a county legislature. The Democrats framed it as racism and xenophobia, making valid points about freedom of religion and that, upon entering politics, they speech is scrutinized and they have to give up some rights of speech in lieu of the job.
The Republicans framed it as the Democrats are anti free speech and said it was not xenophobic, and that Democrats should be ashamed about their actions.

She used a public platform and her personal page to post an anti-islamic post, showing her xenophobic feelings towards rep. Omar especially and the Muslim religion, and yet has spun it that she is the victim now.

Just another day in the deep north of new york.

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CleverToad  May 7, 2019 • 4:14:37am

re: #58 dell*nix
Thank you

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CleverToad  May 7, 2019 • 4:23:37am

re: #57 Decatur Deb

Get some sleep while you’ve got the backup—forget hosting.

Doing my best. There’s a fridge full of food, and they’re fending for themselves so far. And I’ve only apologized for the state of the house a couple of times!

The living room looks like a toy store explosion — 4 1/2 year old great-niece Eden is having a grand time with my dolls and miniatures, a toy train, and the dollhouse my husband got me for my 63rd birthday this year. She’s the sunshine in these clouds — just wish Great-Grandma was well enough to watch her play. Mom kept saying she wanted to see Eden’s face when she laid eyes on that dollhouse.

Waiting for the next shift to show up in an hour or so. I’ll go crash then.

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Patricia Kayden  May 7, 2019 • 4:43:58am

re: #1 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Impeach the bastard. Now.

Speaker Pelosi still needs to be convinced to do that which is disconcerting. Sigh.

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jeffreyw  May 7, 2019 • 4:44:09am

Good morning!

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sagehen  May 7, 2019 • 4:55:34am

re: #63 Patricia Kayden

Speaker Pelosi still needs to be convinced to do that which is disconcerting. Sigh.

Patience, grasshopper.

Speaker Pelosi has never lost a floor vote… because she knows how to bring her caucus around before holding the vote, and when to strike. There were supposedly dozens of votes against her speakership, but then there weren’t. She got ACA passed when there weren’t enough Senators to pass it.

She’ll get it done. Just not today.

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Patricia Kayden  May 7, 2019 • 5:04:31am

re: #65 sagehen

I’m just feeling frustrated as to how Trump seems to be getting away with every dang thing.

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2019 • 5:05:42am

re: #65 sagehen

Patience, grasshopper.

Speaker Pelosi has never lost a floor vote… because she knows how to bring her caucus around before holding the vote, and when to strike. There were supposedly dozens of votes against her speakership, but then there weren’t. She got ACA passed when there weren’t enough Senators to pass it.

She’ll get it done. Just not today.

Here’s the thing: It’s not a singular vote that just happens and she needs to spend time building up support for. It is a vote that takes place after weeks or longer of hearings devoted to establishing the basis for each article of impeachment. That she won’t take the step of starting those hearings, instead settling for remarks like how Trump is “not worth it,” may be politically safe but it’s also giving the impression that the DNC is afraid of him.

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 5:19:38am

re: #11 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

As in the port?

Dude, you are so fucked. :-)

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It’s named after the good sibling, Algee Eisley.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 7, 2019 • 5:33:29am

re: #53 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Speaking of the rogue Starbucks cup on the Game of Thrones banquet table in the latest episode, Joseph Mallozzi* blogs about some other recent property errors.

A snickers bar on the console of a spaceship.
A plastic water bottle on the mantle of a Downton Abbey fireplace.
josephmallozzi.com

I’m sure others will recall other famous ones.

* He’s the genius behind Dark Matter and many other SF shows.

This cup generated so much publicity for Starbucks, I’m suspecting it was deliberate product placement.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 7, 2019 • 5:36:51am

If the GOP retains control of the Senate, the next president will face maximum obstruction. washingtonpost.com

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 7, 2019 • 5:49:50am

re: #70 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If the GOP retains control of the Senate, the next president will face maximum obstruction. washingtonpost.com

Didn’t Maximum Obstruction just win the Kentucky Derby, but got couped by Democratic stewards claiming something about rule of law?
///

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lizardofid  May 7, 2019 • 5:53:32am

re: #71 Feline Fearless Leader

Didn’t Maximum Obstruction just win the Kentucky Derby, but got couped by Democratic stewards claiming something about rule of law?

Yes. But that was because he veered hard to the right, endangering the lives of others by his actions……Oh…….

Never mind.

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sagehen  May 7, 2019 • 5:56:42am

re: #67 Targetpractice

Here’s the thing: It’s not a singular vote that just happens and she needs to spend time building up support for. It is a vote that takes place after weeks or longer of hearings devoted to establishing the basis for each article of impeachment. That she won’t take the step of starting those hearings, instead settling for remarks like how Trump is “not worth it,” may be politically safe but it’s also giving the impression that the DNC is afraid of him.

What do mean “not starting those hearings”?

Mueller is next week. McGahn they’ve subpoenaed, Trump wants to forbid it, but ultimately it’ll be McGahn’s decision. The tax returns question will go to the courts, and that can slow things down, but the law is clear.

Nancy is being methodical. She’ll get there.

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lawhawk  May 7, 2019 • 6:03:35am

re: #55 CleverToad

Hospice is one of those greatly underappreciated things, and depending on the organization, they may have the ability to provide assistance at home as well. One that I worked with was able to set up a live-in health care professional who could help with care, medications, etc.

I feel for you… and wish you luck and support in this most difficult time.

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2019 • 6:09:50am

re: #73 sagehen

What do mean “not starting those hearings”?

Mueller is next week. McGahn they’ve subpoenaed, Trump wants to forbid it, but ultimately it’ll be McGahn’s decision. The tax returns question will go to the courts, and that can slow things down, but the law is clear.

Nancy is being methodical. She’ll get there.

“Methodical” means slow, it means safe, it means getting lost in the noise that the White House pumps out on a daily basis. And it means working on the White House’s schedule, as every court challenge and every foot-dragging measure eats up time between now and next November. The DNC just won big last November on the promise to hold him accountable, not spend 2 years making the case for why voters should be the ones to pull the trigger.

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 6:14:33am

Imagine:

“The day after the White House released a stern statement announcing the immediate deployments of an aircraft carrier strike group and bomber wing to the Persian Gulf to deter an unnamed Iranian threat, Navy chief Adm. John Richardson was put in what has become a familiar position for the Pentagon brass: explaining a surprise White House statement on a controversial topic.

In response to National Security Advisor Advisor John Bolton’s Sunday evening statement that the forces were being dispatched to the Gulf in response to “a number of troubling and escalatory indications and warnings,” by Iran, Richardson said Monday that, essentially, the deployment was just business as usual.

“The Abraham Lincoln Strike Group was planned to deploy for some time now,” Richardson told the SeaAirSpace conference. He touted the Lincoln’s new route to the Gulf as an example of “dynamic force employment,” a new Navy tactic that is meant to surprise potential adversaries by having US ships show up off their coastlines without warning.

He didn’t explain how a White House press release is an example of tactical surprise.”

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 6:25:13am

re: #75 Targetpractice

“Methodical” means slow, it means safe, it means getting lost in the noise that the White House pumps out on a daily basis. And it means working on the White House’s schedule, as every court challenge and every foot-dragging measure eats up time between now and next November. The DNC just won big last November on the promise to hold him accountable, not spend 2 years making the case for why voters should be the ones to pull the trigger.

Here’s a question for you: How long did it take to go from the Saturday Night Massacre to the beginning of House impeachment proceedings?

Answer: 7 months, which was a little over two years past the actual break-in.

pbs.org

Washington time is not human time.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 7, 2019 • 6:27:38am

re: #25 Anymouse 🌹

I like Afternoon Delight.

(uncut music video, 3:02)

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Dad listened to that once.

He said he had to take a bath to scrub the Karo syrup off of himself.

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 6:28:27am
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DangerMan  May 7, 2019 • 6:37:29am

re: #48 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

By honoring Tiger Woods, President Trump leaves the appearance of using his office to reward a business partner

bullshit

“By honoring Tiger Woods, President Trump USED his office to reward a business partner”

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DangerMan  May 7, 2019 • 6:38:05am

re: #49 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

“leaves the appearance”? How about just stating “rewards a business partner,” NYT? Trump is a public figure. He can’t go over you for libel and win, unless he convinces the court you acted with malice. No one would believe the NYT is malicious toward Trump, not after three years of sucking up to him.

yet again i should have read one comment ahead…sigh

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piratedan  May 7, 2019 • 6:40:02am

re: #75 Targetpractice

they won on holding him accountable AND on putting forth legislation to address many concerns (which they have done and has languished in the Senate (as expected) and in the world of the media never gets mentioned again.

She’s fighting to do this right and while I want instant gratification, they’re following the rule of law when it comes to these things. Listen, I know Trump is guilty of multiple crimes, you know the same, but unfortunately there’s still a large segment out there that has been both sides and Faux News spun that believe that this POS is not only not guilty, hes the victim. The slow methodical pace of bringing forth these witnesses and the following of norms to get the information is not just “the way things are done” its also civics 101 in how Government is Supposed to work. Now this may be lost on the press and the knuckle-draggers among us but I believe Nancy is using the government itself against someone who is hell bent to destroy it to show that while the wheels of justice move slowly, they grind just as fine all the same.

Do I wish this was faster, yes, because every day that DJT (and the entire GOP that aided and abetting and condone and attempt to legitimize his actions) is there, more damage is done yet if there’s any basis to restore our government to what once was, it has to be done this way in order to one, restore faith in the system itself and to illustrate the power of law and order (as well as indicate its weaknesses).

Myself, I wish to see how the money and logistical assistance was coordinated with the GOP so we can see an end to certain careers of certain politicos who allowed this travesty to come into being, but I suspect I will have to wait even longer for that to come to light

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 7, 2019 • 6:40:52am

re: #59 boredtechindenver

Worst Song ever

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I remember when the Smothers Brothers goofed on that song. Dick gave a tour of the “Honey House” and Tom keeps blowing his nose with every exhibit…

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2019 • 6:41:24am

re: #77 Belafon

Here’s a question for you? How long did it take to go from the Saturday Night Massacre to the beginning of House impeachment proceedings?

Answer: 7 months, which was a little over two years past the actual break-in.

pbs.org

Meanwhile, in the current day, Trump shitcanned the one firewall (Sessions) to interference in the Mueller investigation five months ago, then appointed his own Bork in the guise of Bill Barr, a man who is actively muddying the water by arguing that Trump’s own attempt at such was simply his raising Mueller’s “conflicts of interest.”

Also, what happened in those seven months between the SNM and the beginning of proceedings? Answer: Grand jury indictments of co-conspirators in the cover-up and the release of the transcripts that allowed people a look at how Nixon acted behind closed doors. Well, we’re not getting any more indictments in the immediate future and Trump has so lowered the bar on his actions that there’s not much that could surprise us. So we’re instead left with this argument that we need to make the case to hold impeachment hearings just to hold hearings to make the case for impeachment.

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DangerMan  May 7, 2019 • 6:42:17am

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Juliette Kayyem at WaPo: Anti-vaxxers are dangerous. Make them face isolation, fines, arrests.

these people are obviously vulnerable, easily manipulated and not prone to critical thinking. they are objectively clueless.

they are crackpots because they ‘believe’, endorse and promote crackpot ideas.

loving their children has nothing to do with it

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 6:42:24am

re: #82 piratedan

Myself, I wish to see how the money and logistical assistance was coordinated with the GOP so we can see an end to certain careers of certain politicos who allowed this travesty to come into being, but I suspect I will have to wait even longer for that to come to light

And the only reason that will happen is if a large enough fraction of the public cares. A large portion of them will never care, because the power is too important. The middle third of the country can be persuaded, but it isn’t going to be easy.

Edited. I got a negation entirely wrong.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 7, 2019 • 6:46:13am

re: #84 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, in the current day, Trump shitcanned the one firewall (Sessions) to interference in the Mueller investigation five months ago, then appointed his own Bork in the guise of Bill Barr, a man who is actively muddying the water by arguing that Trump’s own attempt at such was simply his raising Mueller’s “conflicts of interest.”

Also, what happened in those seven months between the SNM and the beginning of proceedings? Answer: Grand jury indictments of co-conspirators in the cover-up and the release of the transcripts that allowed people a look at how Nixon acted behind closed doors. Well, we’re not getting any more indictments in the immediate future and Trump has so lowered the bar on his actions that there’s not much that could surprise us. So we’re instead left with this argument that we need to make the case to hold impeachment hearings just to hold hearings to make the case for impeachment.

Yes, and the Democrats were in the majority in both houses.

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DangerMan  May 7, 2019 • 6:47:26am

re: #73 sagehen

What do mean “not starting those hearings”?

Mueller is next week. McGahn they’ve subpoenaed, Trump wants to forbid it, but ultimately it’ll be McGahn’s decision. The tax returns question will go to the courts, and that can slow things down, but the law is clear.

Nancy is being methodical. She’ll get there.

‘those hearings’ would be actual impeachment hearings brought up in committee
(i assume)
right now we’re in what i would otherwise call every day, run of the mill, congresses job, oversight hearings mode only

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 6:47:56am

re: #87 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Yes, and the Democrats were in the majority in both houses.

There’s a diary over at DK that describes the biggest problem: McConnell has discovered that he can ignore every norm and will not be held accountable.

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2019 • 6:51:15am

re: #87 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Yes, and the Democrats were in the majority in both houses.

That shouldn’t be a consideration if we’re talking about accountability and the law. A prosecutor doesn’t poll the jury pool before he chooses whether or not to go to trial.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 7, 2019 • 6:54:18am
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Targetpractice  May 7, 2019 • 6:55:13am

re: #88 DangerMan

‘those hearings’ would be actual impeachment hearings brought up in committee
(i assume)
right now we’re in what i would otherwise call every day, run of the mill, congresses job, oversight hearings mode only

Indeed, we’re in a holding pattern right now, counting the days between hearings during which we’ve got a white noise of “Both Sides” reporting. To those of us who watched the hearing as it happened, Barr’s performance was a shambles and the case for obstruction was made stronger. For everybody who gets their daily dose of political commentary in bite-sized chunks at 6pm, Barr had some uncomfortable answers but overall it was the Dems being mean to the Attorney General.

It’s a bit hard to get people to take this shit seriously when there’s long pauses between “bombshells.”

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 6:55:24am

re: #90 Targetpractice

That shouldn’t be a consideration if we’re talking about accountability and the law. A prosecutor doesn’t poll the jury pool before he chooses whether or not to go to trial.

What do you think a grand jury is for?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 7, 2019 • 6:58:56am

Utah Outcasts goof off on the latest stupidity from radical Xtians!

(Yes, we caution for those “naughty” words)

Beware that 5G networks are opening a portal for the AntiChrist!

5G Internet Will Lead to the Antichrist

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 7, 2019 • 6:59:45am

It’s Tuesday, let’s start another international crisis with our long valued neighbor

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2019 • 7:00:57am

re: #93 Belafon

What do you think a grand jury is for?

On the federal scale, we call those “impeachment hearings.”

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 7:01:04am

re: #95 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

It’s Tuesday, let’s start another international crisis with our long valued neighbor

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Gah.

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2019 • 7:01:47am

re: #95 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

It’s Tuesday, let’s start another international crisis with our long valued neighbor

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Finally, we can lay claim to their most valuable resource: Maple syrup!

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The Vicious Babushka  May 7, 2019 • 7:01:53am

re: #55 CleverToad

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My mom passed away 2 years ago of pneumonia. We all thought she would recover & live to be 100, because she was super tough, like my grandmother. My sister was with her when she passed. She called me at work and I started to sob right there at my workstation.

A co-worker near me came over and hugged me. I had to interrupt my manager at a video conference by passing him a note: MY MOTHER JUST PASSED AWAY. He ended the meeting. Then the team had a moment of silence.

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 7:05:04am

I’m pretty sure Manchin will not vote to end the filibuster if Democrats retake the Senate unless things just go really south over the next year and a half. We’re going to have to have more than a one vote margin in order to do that.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 7, 2019 • 7:11:15am

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Dave In Austin  May 7, 2019 • 7:20:04am

Fuck you Mitch! Nope!

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The Vicious Babushka  May 7, 2019 • 7:20:35am

re: #102 Dave In Austin

Fuck you Mitch! Nope!

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2019 • 7:21:10am

Think we might save ourselves time if we just had a vote on ruling the entire administration in contempt of Congress. Unless there’s someone we think might be the one hold-out that will actually comply?

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 7:21:26am

re: #103 The Vicious Babushka

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I might despise him more than Trump TBH since he’s actually smart.

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2019 • 7:21:57am

re: #103 The Vicious Babushka

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GOP: “Russia is a very dangerous country!”

Donny: “Don’t let Vlad hear you say that!”

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2019 • 7:37:19am

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Jay C  May 7, 2019 • 7:37:30am

re: #95 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

It’s Tuesday, let’s start another international crisis with our long valued neighbor

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OK, it’s our Secretary of State, so I’ll choose some diplomatic language wrt to this statement: Is this idiot Pompeo a fucking moron - or a TOTAL fucking moron??
I’m no expert on maritime law, but even a glance at a Wikipedia map of the Northwest Passage shows that the bulk of the route passes between indisputably *Canadian* territory. Now I’m not sure of all the ramifications of exactly where and how the waterways/sealanes run wrt the landmasses, and who has sovereignty/jurisdiction over wherever, but one thing, even to this layman, seems fairly obvious. Dismissing Canadian interests re the Northwest Passage as “illegitimate” is imbecilic. Though about par for the Trump Administration….

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 7:38:22am

They’ll go out of their way to upset the Canadian government but never to even criticize Vlad.

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2019 • 7:43:23am
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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 7:45:34am

re: #110 gocart mozart

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Yep and has never admitted that he made any mistakes. Liz and all the Cheneys can kiss my ass.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 7, 2019 • 7:48:26am

re: #55 CleverToad

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Hecuba's daughter  May 7, 2019 • 7:52:26am

re: #100 Belafon

I’m pretty sure Manchin will not vote to end the filibuster if Democrats retake the Senate unless things just go really south over the next year and a half. We’re going to have to have more than a one vote margin in order to do that.

I am not a fan of ending the filibuster. There is a lot of evil the Republicans could have passed during Trump’s first two years in office if not for the filibuster facing them.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 7, 2019 • 7:52:47am

re: #110 gocart mozart

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When & where did @IlhanMN defend Hamas? Because she didn’t respond to Bullet Necklace’s fakeass gif? I’m getting so sick of this shit.

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2019 • 7:54:33am

Any other Republicans I should accuse of murder, today? I’m taking requests, phone lines are open.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 7, 2019 • 7:56:39am

re: #108 Jay C

OK, it’s our Secretary of State, so I’ll choose some diplomatic language wrt to this statement: Is this idiot Pompeo a fucking moron - or a TOTAL fucking moron??
I’m no expert on maritime law, but even a glance at a Wikipedia map of the Northwest Passage shows that the bulk of the route passes between indisputably *Canadian* territory. Now I’m not sure of all the ramifications of exactly where and how the waterways/sealanes run wrt the landmasses, and who has sovereignty/jurisdiction over wherever, but one thing, even to this layman, seems fairly obvious. Dismissing Canadian interests re the Northwest Passage as “illegitimate” is imbecilic. Though about par for the Trump Administration….

While Canada classifies the ‘thru Canada” passage as internal waters, most international maritime nations see it as an “international strait” with the right of “transit passage”. In the international view, Canada retains the right to enact fishing, environmental regulations and lawful fiscal & smuggling control. The way I picture the international view is similar to commercial air transit.
So, “some dispute” would be a reasonable view, but “illegitimate” is woefully ignorant.

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 7:57:01am

re: #103 The Vicious Babushka

“OK, McConnell, now that we’re all in agreement that the Russians were interfering with our election, you’ll be more than willing to help us figure out what they did, who helped them, and how we can prevent it in the future, right?”

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Hecuba's daughter  May 7, 2019 • 7:57:14am

re: #114 The Vicious Babushka

I think this was the tweet:

Ilhan Omar

@IlhanMN
How many more protesters must be shot, rockets must be fired, and little kids must be killed until the endless cycle of violence ends?

The status quo of occupation and humanitarian crisis in Gaza is unsustainable. Only real justice can bring about security and lasting peace.

46.7K
6:32 PM - May 5, 2019

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2019 • 7:57:16am

re: #114 The Vicious Babushka

Are you forgetting when she spoke out against the killing of Palestinian civilians while being a black woman wearing a hijab?

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2019 • 7:59:24am

re: #117 Belafon

“OK, McConnell, now that we’re all in agreement that the Russians were interfering with our election, you’ll be more than willing to help us figure out what they did, who helped them, and how we can prevent it in the future, right?”

“Will it involve robbing millions of people of the ability to vote?”

“…no.”

“Then piss off!”

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 8:00:01am

re: #113 Hecuba’s daughter

I am not a fan of ending the filibuster. There is a lot of evil the Republicans could have passed during Trump’s first two years in office if not for the filibuster facing them.

I’m not entirely a fan either, but all Democrats will be able to do is investigate if we don’t. McConnell and the GOP have declared war on our democracy. Until we beat them down and get rid of the current congressional “norms” like the Hastert rule, and prevent the Senate Majority leader from blocking legislation, we are going to have to be more aggressive there.

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Dr. Matt  May 7, 2019 • 8:00:38am

The View producers torch Meghan McCain and her husband in scathing tabloid tell-all

Producers from “The View” questioned co-host Meghan McCain’s recent sick days — which they suspect were timed to avoid talking about her father-in-law falling under an ethics investigation for his work in the Trump administration.

[…]

“She comes on the show daily and says she hates Donald Trump, and has benefited from the president’s attack on her late father,” one source said. “So for it to be revealed that her father-in-law not only works for the president, but is now under an ethics investigation, she was humiliated and conveniently sick for two days.”

What a disgusting family.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 8:02:10am

re: #122 Dr. Matt

The View producers torch Meghan McCain and her husband in scathing tabloid tell-all

What a disgusting family.

She’s two faced.

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 8:02:22am

re: #122 Dr. Matt

The View producers torch Meghan McCain and her husband in scathing tabloid tell-all

What a disgusting family.

Maybe they can change the show to “View Meghan McCain’s hypocrisy.”

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lawhawk  May 7, 2019 • 8:05:09am

re: #122 Dr. Matt

The View producers torch Meghan McCain and her husband in scathing tabloid tell-all

What a disgusting family.

The entire GOP is a cesspool. Drain the swamp? Trump drained all the worst of the GOP in to DC to maximize his graft, corruption, and to prevent the rule of law holding him or the GOP accountable.

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2019 • 8:05:16am

re: #124 Belafon

Maybe they can change the show to “View Meghan McCain’s hypocrisy.”

Which is only shorter than the realistic title “View the opinions of a woman nobody would give a shit about if she wasn’t the daughter of a Senator.”

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 8:05:21am

I honestly had no idea about these details regarding Meaghan’s husband.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 7, 2019 • 8:08:25am
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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 8:08:56am

re: #126 Targetpractice

Which is only shorter than the realistic title “View the opinions of a woman nobody would give a shit about if she wasn’t the daughter of a Senator.”

Yep.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 7, 2019 • 8:09:29am
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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 8:10:04am

re: #128 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I’m sure Berlin isn’t looking forward to having this end times nutjob. God I hope Germany has a great successor to Merkel. Merkel may be the greatest European leader of the past 25 years.

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2019 • 8:10:05am

Is a “Freebird argument” a meme popular with today’s yoots?

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Hecuba's daughter  May 7, 2019 • 8:10:11am

re: #121 Belafon

I’m not entirely a fan either, but all Democrats will be able to do is investigate if we don’t. McConnell and the GOP have declared war on our democracy. Until we beat them down and get rid of the current congressional “norms” like the Hastert rule, and prevent the Senate Majority leader from blocking legislation, we are going to have to be more aggressive there.

They can also appoint judges, since the standard filibuster rule has been discarded for that process.

Is the Hastert rule in effect when Democrats are in control? It’s just a mechanism that Republicans use to keep popular legislation from consideration in the House.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 7, 2019 • 8:10:30am

re: #32 teleskiguy

I now have an expired state identification card, and I have to show up in person to the DMV to obtain a new one.

Is Colorado going RealID, too? I thought I had lost my DL and instead of being able to replace it online, I was going to have to go to the DMV with a bunch of paperwork to prove I’m me.

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2019 • 8:10:40am

re: #130 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Wasn’t the GOP and Barr praising the work of Wray during the latter’s appearance before the Senate just last week?

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 8:10:43am

re: #130 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Trump is going to be raging about Wray soon enough. Wray has been surprisingly pretty independent minded.

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 8:12:55am

re: #133 Hecuba’s daughter

They can also appoint judges, since the standard filibuster rule has been discarded for that process.

Is the Hastert rule in effect when Democrats are in control? It’s just a mechanism that Republicans use to keep popular legislation from consideration in the House.

I was trying to say that we’re going to have to get Republicans to abandon those rules.

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Done Ben Wrote  May 7, 2019 • 8:13:27am

re: #103 The Vicious Babushka

Mitch McConnell.

May that name surpass “Benedict Arnold” as the greatest traitor to the United States. May his children change their names to escape the stain of their siring. May his grand-children and great-grandchildren become liberal champions of the poor and powerless as they attempt to regain their family’s honor. May he learn of their achievements only third- or fourth- hand, for their shunning of him.

May no child be named Mitch, for the terrible stigma of that name. May all McConnells hasten to assure strangers that they are no relation to the most infamous bearer of that name.

May association with the Republican Party that he lead become anathema. May “ex-Republican” become the kiss-of-death to any political hopeful. May every Republican achievement of his lifetime be undone. May restitution for those they have injured be swift.

And may he live a long life to see it all happen.

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DangerMan  May 7, 2019 • 8:13:51am

re: #117 Belafon

“OK, McConnell, now that we’re all in agreement that the Russians were interfering with our election, you’ll be more than willing to help us figure out what they did, who helped them, and how we can prevent it in the future, right?”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 7, 2019 • 8:14:17am
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retired cynic  May 7, 2019 • 8:17:38am

I assume everyone has heard this old chestnut, but FTR:

As a singer I sing at many funerals & I was recently asked by a funeral director to sing at a graveside service for a homeless man. He had no family or friends, so the service was to be at a Pauper’s Cemetery down by Harrisburg. As I was not familiar with the area, I got lost. Everyone that knows me knows I can be directionally challenged AND my navigation lost its signal.

I hate AT&T!!

Anyway, I finally arrived an hour late and saw that the funeral guy had evidently gone and the hearse was nowhere in sight. There were only the diggers and crew left and they were eating lunch. I felt bad and apologized to the guys for being late. I went to the side of the grave and looked down and the vault lid was already in place. I didn’t know what else to do, so I started to sing. The workers put down their lunch and began to gather around. I sang my heart and soul out for this man with no family and friends.

As I sang “Amazing Grace”, the spirit began to move and the workers began to weep. They wept, I wept, we all wept together. When I finished, I prayed a benediction and started for my car, my head hung low but my heart so FULL.

As I opened the door to my car, I overheard one of the workers say, “I’ve never seen nothin’ like that before and I’ve been putting in septic tanks for twenty years.”

Apparently, I was still lost….

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 8:19:49am

re: #141 retired cynic

I assume everyone has heard this old chestnut, but FTR:

I’m also assuming too stubborn to ask for directions, but it is funny. May your septic system be watched over by God.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 7, 2019 • 8:20:02am

re: #138 Done Ben Wrote

Mitch McConnell.

….
May association with the Republican Party that he lead become anathema. May “ex-Republican” become the kiss-of-death to any political hopeful. May every Republican achievement of his lifetime be undone. May restitution for those they have injured be swift.

And may he live a long life to see it all happen.

May the Republican Party die completely. May it be replaced by a party led by William Weld.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 7, 2019 • 8:20:50am
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Dr. Matt  May 7, 2019 • 8:21:33am

re: #140 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

My barracks wasn’t too far from where that plane sits now. I use to crab not too far from there.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2019 • 8:21:47am

re: #144 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This is EXACTLY why he stole the election. So he could do shit like this.

Court challenges coming in 3…2…1…

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 8:22:09am

re: #146 Eclectic Cyborg

This is EXACTLY why he stole the election. So he could do shit like this.

Court challenges coming in 3…2…1…

It’ll get to SCOTUS.

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Sufficient unto the day...  May 7, 2019 • 8:26:05am

A funny.

And a depressing/ominous

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 7, 2019 • 8:27:04am

Watching Chernobyl, need something lighthearted

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Hecuba's daughter  May 7, 2019 • 8:27:18am

re: #147 HappyWarrior

It’ll get to SCOTUS.

And SCOTUS will overturn Roe v Wade. I do not count on Roberts to do the right thing — and the other 4 GOP members will happily deprive women of their right to choose.

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2019 • 8:28:42am

re: #150 Hecuba’s daughter

And SCOTUS will overturn Roe v Wade. I do not count on Roberts to do the right thing — and the other 4 GOP members will happily deprive women of their right to choose.

I figure it’ll end up being a “states rights” majority, i.e. “the states have the right to smother your rights.”

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 8:29:18am

re: #150 Hecuba’s daughter

And SCOTUS will overturn Roe v Wade. I do not count on Roberts to do the right thing — and the other 4 GOP members will happily deprive women of their right to choose.

Yeah I’m not optimistic.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2019 • 8:36:02am

Y’all realize that Trump pardoned the soldier because he LIKED what the dude did to that Iraqi, right?

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 8:38:37am

re: #153 Eclectic Cyborg

Y’all realize that Trump pardoned the soldier because he LIKED what the dude did to that Iraqi, right?

Of course. I haven’t seen anything that Trump thinks that the guy was wronged by the legal process but rather Trump has a hard on for war crimes.

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2019 • 8:38:56am

re: #153 Eclectic Cyborg

Y’all realize that Trump pardoned the soldier because he LIKED what the dude did to that Iraqi, right?

So when does this guy announce he’s running for Congress as a Republican? Any open seats in OK?

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 8:39:17am

re: #153 Eclectic Cyborg

Y’all realize that Trump pardoned the soldier because he LIKED what the dude did to that Iraqi, right?

That was a big portion of it. But there’s also the “I’ve never done more for our soldiers while Democrats only care about those people” angle.

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2019 • 8:39:56am

Whee, another 400 point drop in the Dow thanks to Trump talking out of his ass again.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 8:42:46am

re: #155 Skip Intro

So when does this guy announce he’s running for Congress as a Republican? Any open seats in OK?

Yeah. Inhofe is 85 and could be retiring. Good catch.

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nines09  May 7, 2019 • 8:43:15am

re: #153 Eclectic Cyborg

Y’all realize that Trump pardoned the soldier because he LIKED what the dude did to that Iraqi, right?

You do realize if Trump was in office in 1968 William Calley would probably be awarded the Congressional Medal Of Honor?

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Jay C  May 7, 2019 • 8:43:28am

re: #116 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

While Canada classifies the ‘thru Canada” passage as internal waters, most international maritime nations see it as an “international strait” with the right of “transit passage”. In the international view, Canada retains the right to enact fishing, environmental regulations and lawful fiscal & smuggling control. The way I picture the international view is similar to commercial air transit.
So, “some dispute” would be a reasonable view, but “illegitimate” is woefully ignorant.

Yeah, reading up on the NWP, I can see that it’s not as clear-cut an issue as it might seem. But of course, this being the Trump Admin, what we get in the way of public statement is (as usual) “woefully ignorant” - seasoned with hackneyed belligerence about China (generally untrue) and Russia (true but legitimate interest).

In a saner world, maritime interests in the sub-Arctic would be worked out by an international agreement - but since there’s some small possibility that such an agreement might in some way constrain US bullying “sovereignty”, it probably won’t happen.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 8:44:15am

re: #159 nines09

You do realize if Trump was in office in 1968 William Calley would probably be awarded the Congressional Medal Of Honor?

God I can hear it now.

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Interesting Times  May 7, 2019 • 8:44:58am

Well, this thread is fucking depressing because it’s true :(

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2019 • 8:47:20am

re: #161 HappyWarrior

God I can hear it now.

“This guy got 22 of them. 22! That’s gotta be…that’s gotta be a record or something. I love tough guys like this. Love them. This is what happens when you have a President who supports the military, unlike the weak Democrats. You’d never see a Democratic President doing something like this. Never happen. But me? I know a hero when I see one and this man is an American hero. MAGA!”

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 8:50:40am

re: #163 Eclectic Cyborg

“This guy got 22 of them. 22! That’s gotta be…that’s gotta be a record or something. I love tough guys like this. Love them. This is what happens when you have a President who supports the military, unlike the weak Democrats. You’d never see a Democratic President doing something like this. Never happen. But me? I know a hero when I see one and this man is an American hero. MAGA!”

Yep sounds right.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 7, 2019 • 8:50:56am

re: #157 Skip Intro

Whee, another 400 point drop in the Dow thanks to Trump talking out of his ass again.

With any luck, trump will be able to tweet about the DOW closing above 26,000 by the end of the week.
Again

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 8:51:15am

Should add that he would complain about political coorectness.

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 8:52:58am

The news this morning kept pushing how some people believed there were inconsistencies in how that solders trial and conviction were held.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 7, 2019 • 8:53:40am

re: #165 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

With any luck, trump will be able to tweet about the DOW closing above 26,000 by the end of the week.
Again

And the ^VIX jumped up by 28%…

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Eventual Carrion  May 7, 2019 • 8:55:58am

re: #144 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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So insurance companies are going to start selling life insurance policies for these “children” at detectable heartbeat?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 7, 2019 • 8:58:08am
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Sufficient unto the day...  May 7, 2019 • 9:05:51am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 7, 2019 • 9:12:01am
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 7, 2019 • 9:12:51am

So the right-wing freaks are all moving over to Telegram?

“Can these republicans muster up the courage to say our names?” Loomer wrote to her Telegram followers. Noting that much of the attention in far-right and conservative circles has been devoted to portraying InfoWars reporter Paul Joseph Watson and actor James Woods as victims of alleged social media censorship, she added that conservative politics is a “men’s club.” Loomer even posted an open letter to Donald Trump on Telegram, pleading with him to help get her back on more significant social media platforms.

“My friends were my followers,” she wrote on Telegram. “Men only like me because I’m famous and have followers.”

Yiannopoulos, meanwhile, complained that Breitbart, the right-wing outlet where he once worked, wasn’t working hard enough to get him back on Facebook.

“If Breitbart still had any balls, it would be calling for mass civil disobedience,” he wrote on Telegram.

Telegram limits the audience size to 250,000 and is not visible unless you are part of the group. This cuts off the oxygen to these shitheels.

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sagehen  May 7, 2019 • 9:13:55am

re: #169 Eventual Carrion

So insurance companies are going to start selling life insurance policies for these “children” at detectable heartbeat?

Can we declare them a dependent on our tax returns? If I have a miscarriage at 8 weeks, will there be a full funeral with a memorial service, burial in consecrated ground, all the ritual that normally attends the death of a human being?

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 9:14:06am

re: #173 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

So the right-wing freaks are all moving over to Telegram?

Telegram limits the audience size to 250,000 and is not visible unless you are part of the group. This cuts off the oxygen to these shitheels.

Go ahead. Nothing’s stopping you. This will go over as well as the MAGA dating website.

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DangerMan  May 7, 2019 • 9:14:22am

re: #169 Eventual Carrion

So insurance companies are going to start selling life insurance policies for these “children” at detectable heartbeat?

ability to own property, contract, inherit, issuing ssn’s,

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2019 • 9:17:58am

re: #172 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

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*sigh* Another subpoena to toss onto the pile of them that will be put to the courts to rule on.

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Sufficient unto the day...  May 7, 2019 • 9:18:10am

re: #173 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

I had never heard of Telegram until now.

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wrenchwench  May 7, 2019 • 9:20:38am

Is there a competition for ‘Worst at Democracy’?

Are we ‘winning’?

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 7, 2019 • 9:23:51am

re: #177 Targetpractice

*sigh* Another subpoena to toss onto the pile of them that will be put to the courts to rule on.

Yep. All this is nothing more than a delaying tactic by this administration. Nancy needs to start allowing contempt citations to be issued and arrest warrants served.

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2019 • 9:25:34am

re: #180 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

She has no power to issue arrest warrants.

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wrenchwench  May 7, 2019 • 9:26:47am

re: #176 DangerMan

ability to own property, contract, inherit, issuing ssn’s,

Can an ectopic pregnancy be charged with murder?

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Patricia Kayden  May 7, 2019 • 9:27:01am

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

Hello Ms. Eisley! Welcome to the fray.

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Teukka  May 7, 2019 • 9:27:06am

re: #181 Skip Intro

She has no power to issue arrest warrants.

On a related note, keep tabs on the contemptors and make questioning also include questions about the contempt itself and their actions part of the hearing… semi-//

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nines09  May 7, 2019 • 9:27:16am

Tuesday
Oldie but Goodie. Search Raul Malo for some sweet vocals.

Back to spring chores

The Mavericks - Back In Your Arms Again

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Decatur Deb  May 7, 2019 • 9:29:25am

Needing a Wall Street guru here. Is it wrong to believe that the gyrations yesterday and today moved tens of millions of dollars from one holder to another?

Since the market is still fundamentally based on trust, how long will institutions place value on a wheel that can be stopped by a tweet?

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2019 • 9:31:44am

re: #186 Decatur Deb

How much does the Trump crime family make by shorting the market before the Don does something to tank the markets?

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Teukka  May 7, 2019 • 9:32:50am

re: #186 Decatur Deb

Needing a Wall Street guru here. Is it wrong to believe that the gyrations yesterday and today moved tens of millions of dollars from one holder to another?

Since the market is still fundamentally based on trust, how long will institutions place value on a wheel that can be stopped by a tweet?

Not that long unless there is profit to be had. And I doubt that people on that side of the aisle even is willing to consider that Il Douche’s actions may erode confidence in US markets.

My €.02 on them trying to blame the globalists/NWO/Obama/whateva for it when the consequences of their actions dawn on them.

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Decatur Deb  May 7, 2019 • 9:32:56am

re: #187 Skip Intro

How much does the Trump crime family make by shorting the market before the Don does something to tank the markets?

Check their income tax returns. I’m sure it’s in there somewhere.

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Teukka  May 7, 2019 • 9:33:39am

re: #189 Decatur Deb

Check their income tax returns. I’m sure it’s in there somewhere.

Well, we would if the Treasury would release them…

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 7, 2019 • 9:33:40am

re: #181 Skip Intro

She has no power to issue arrest warrants.

Agreed. But once the contempt charges are made, a warrant can be issued by the Courts.
She has to start allowing these charges to be made.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 7, 2019 • 9:35:07am

re: #191 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Agreed. But once the contempt charges are made, a warrant can be issued by the Courts.
She has to start allowing these charges to be made.

Barr contempt vote tomorrow. Two working days after the offense.

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2019 • 9:36:23am

re: #192 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Barr contempt vote tomorrow. Two working days after the offense.

Assuming Nadler doesn’t take up the DOJ’s offer for more “negotiations.”

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Teukka  May 7, 2019 • 9:38:28am

Breaking story out of Toulouse, France…
Gunman taken people hostage. Was wearing motorcycle helmet and a camera.

Edit: Changed to less questionable tweeter.

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DangerMan  May 7, 2019 • 9:40:29am

re: #177 Targetpractice

*sigh* Another subpoena to toss onto the pile of them that will be put to the courts to rule on.

imo the more they stonewall the more it becomes obvious that they are doing that - just stonewalling everything as a matter of course - and not individually on any constitutional basis or the merits of each one

will it matter? i hope so

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Sir John Barron  May 7, 2019 • 9:42:07am

re: #172 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

I thought the Mueller probe EXONERATED djT?

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DangerMan  May 7, 2019 • 9:42:17am

re: #187 Skip Intro

How much does the Trump crime family make by shorting the market before the Don does something to tank the markets?

hence the common and accepted history of using blind trusts

he said no, not gonna, and nobody gave a damn

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 7, 2019 • 9:44:31am

re: #187 Skip Intro

How much does the Trump crime family make by shorting the market before the Don does something to tank the markets?

It would be risky, since the market was only down a bit on Monday, the day after the Deadly Tweet.

And the market hasn’t so far been tanked in the long run — it has fluctuated a lot, but it’s not far off its historic high. Day traders are the only ones seriously affected.

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Decatur Deb  May 7, 2019 • 9:46:46am

re: #198 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

It would be risky, since the market was only down a bit on Monday, the day after the Deadly Tweet.

And the market hasn’t so far been tanked in the long run — it has fluctuated a lot, but it’s not far off its historic high. Day traders are the only ones seriously affected.

Let’s assume it’s not a conspiracy, just an out-of-control asshole with a megaphone. When does the unpredictability drive the bettors away?

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 7, 2019 • 9:48:23am

re: #193 Targetpractice

Assuming Nadler doesn’t take up the DOJ’s offer for more “negotiations.”

He will delay the vote if he gets access to the full report and all underlying documentation.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 7, 2019 • 9:48:44am

re: #193 Targetpractice

Assuming Nadler doesn’t take up the DOJ’s offer for more “negotiations.”

The time for “negotiation” is over.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 7, 2019 • 9:50:13am

re: #195 DangerMan

imo the more they stonewall the more it becomes obvious that they are doing that - just stonewalling everything as a matter of course - and not individually on any constitutional basis or the merits of each one

will it matter? i hope so

Nate Silver’s aggregated DT disapproval chart is up by a full percentage point since the weekend.

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2019 • 9:51:59am

re: #200 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

He will delay the vote if he gets access to the full report and all underlying documentation.

I’ll believe it when I see it.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 7, 2019 • 9:52:34am

re: #199 Decatur Deb

Let’s assume it’s not a conspiracy, just an out-of-control asshole with a megaphone. When does the unpredictability drive the bettors away?

Dunno, but his effect so far has been lots of short-term churning, nothing much longterm. The long-termers have no reason to bail, and the short-termers live off of the fluctuations.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 7, 2019 • 9:53:34am

re: #203 Targetpractice

I’ll believe it when I see it.

The good news is that you only need to wait until tomorrow.

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2019 • 9:54:46am

re: #205 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

The good news is that you only need to wait until tomorrow.

I wish I had your optimism.

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Interesting Times  May 7, 2019 • 10:02:00am

re: #206 Targetpractice

I wish I had your optimism.

I can’t for the life of me understand this sort of willful ignorance:

Cheeto Benito’s base is already more solidified that a deep-frozen fatberg!

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Teukka  May 7, 2019 • 10:03:28am

re: #194 Teukka

Update, according to Sud Ouest it looks like a robbery gone wrong rather than a terrorist incident at this juncture.

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makeitstop  May 7, 2019 • 10:06:49am

re: #193 Targetpractice

Assuming Nadler doesn’t take up the DOJ’s offer for more “negotiations.”

Contempt vote to go forward.

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darthstar  May 7, 2019 • 10:11:55am

Hey everyone…how’s things? Just got back yesterday after spending two days in a treehouse B&B. (Danehill Hygge House on airbnb). Nice to spend some time with my wife and Merle…the pain of Banjo’s passing is still pretty sharp but at least we’re not both busting into tears every time the other metions him…mostly.

Saw this non-related image and thought I’d share.

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darthstar  May 7, 2019 • 10:15:06am

Also, here’s Merle this morning.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 7, 2019 • 10:18:19am

re: #206 Targetpractice

I wish I had your optimism.

I’m glad I don’t have your urge to despair in advance (just in case it turns out you didn’t need to after all).

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2019 • 10:20:32am

re: #212 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

I’m glad I don’t have your urge to despair in advance (just in case it turns out you didn’t need to after all).

My cynicism ensures that when good things happen, it’s a pleasant surprise. Getting ones hopes up constantly only to have them dashed gets rather depressing after awhile.

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Mike Lamb  May 7, 2019 • 10:21:18am

re: #207 Interesting Times

I can’t for the life of me understand this sort of willful ignorance:

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Cheeto Benito’s base is already more solidified that a deep-frozen fatberg!

Yes, that kind of thinking needs to be phased out. His base isn’t leaving him, even if he was impeached and convicted. Anyone that decides to vote Trump because of impeachment proceedings was never voting for a Democrat either.

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darthstar  May 7, 2019 • 10:23:10am

When you need a jump start but your jumper cables are attached to some guy’s nipples back in the cave…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 7, 2019 • 10:26:05am
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DodgerFan1988  May 7, 2019 • 10:32:36am

Only a matter of time before Trump pardons “Patriot” Shawna Forde and Scott Roeder, gives Congressional Medal of Honor to George Zimmerman.

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 10:32:51am

re: #213 Targetpractice

My cynicism ensures that when good things happen, it’s a pleasant surprise. Getting ones hopes up constantly only to have them dashed gets rather depressing after awhile.

I’m pretty sure being depressed all the time is depressing as well.

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allegro  May 7, 2019 • 10:33:50am

I’ve mentioned this before but I’m gonna go back there. This is NOT the time for The Impeachment. It will happen, without any doubt in my mind, but timing is a Thing and I can’t think of anyone I trust more than Nancy to pull this off. She has proven herself time and time again.

We’re into May, end of the school year, just heading into summer when most Americans are otherwise distracted. Congress is guns blazin’ in some serious investigations and Trump cronies are in stonewalling overdrive. It’s the subject of newscasts, keeping this shit on the front-burner and building. More and more voices are coming out demanding action, such as all the former prosecutors signing on to the “yeah, Trump should be indicted” side. There will soon be more public hearings with Mueller. More and more of this damning information will become public and unavoidable even to those not paying direct attention. The longer Nancy holds on, the louder the demands.

Announce official impeachment proceedings in the fall when Americans are back into routine. Televise the hell outa the hearings so it is THE topic of conversation. Pound the GOP as enabling/assisting in this massive corruption on the campaign trails and in the debates to assist down-ticket and state races. Force GOP leaders and candidates to continue to try to defend the indefensible, looking more and more corrupt and ridiculous. Back McConnell into a tight fucking corner and make GOP Senators running for re-election sweat blood.

That’s the way I’d do it anyway.

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CleverToad  May 7, 2019 • 10:38:35am

re: #99 The Vicious Babushka

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Toad}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

My mom passed away 2 years ago of pneumonia. We all thought she would recover & live to be 100, because she was super tough, like my grandmother. My sister was with her when she passed. She called me at work and I started to sob right there at my workstation.

A co-worker near me came over and hugged me. I had to interrupt my manager at a video conference by passing him a note: MY MOTHER JUST PASSED AWAY. He ended the meeting. Then the team had a moment of silence.

{{{{VB}}}} What a way to find out — so very hard for you! At least I’m on the spot so when I dissolve into a blubbering heap, I don’t have to make it home afterwards.

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2019 • 10:38:42am
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Stanley Sea  May 7, 2019 • 10:38:52am

re: #211 darthstar

In addition to you guys, is Merle hanging in there?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 7, 2019 • 10:40:08am

re: #217 DodgerFan1988

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Only a matter of time before Trump pardons “Patriot” Shawna Forde and Scott Roeder, gives Congressional Medal of Honor to George Zimmerman.

Of note.
After he killed his naked prisoner, he ordered an NCO to burn the body.
I’m sure that was an act of “preemptive self defense” was to ensure that the zombie prisoner wouldn’t be a threat.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 7, 2019 • 10:44:03am

re: #157 Skip Intro

Whee, another 400 point drop in the Dow thanks to Trump talking out of his ass again.

re: #165 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

With any luck, trump will be able to tweet about the DOW closing above 26,000 by the end of the week.
Again

Looks like Donny may have a chance.
DJI is sub-25,900 right now

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Interesting Times  May 7, 2019 • 10:47:06am

re: #219 allegro

I’ve mentioned this before but I’m gonna go back there. This is NOT the time for The Impeachment. It will happen, without any doubt in my mind, but timing is a Thing and I can’t think of anyone I trust more than Nancy to pull this off. She has proven herself time and time again.

I see your point, though the main problem is, the longer she waits, the more this type of thinking sets in:

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 10:48:05am

re: #225 Interesting Times

I see your point, though the main problem is, the longer she waits, the more this type of thinking sets in:

I’m sure we can find a few people to tilt at windmills if they really want a spectacle.

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jaunte  May 7, 2019 • 10:50:24am
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sagehen  May 7, 2019 • 10:50:38am

re: #219 allegro

Televise the hell outa the hearings so it is THE topic of conversation. Pound the GOP as enabling/assisting in this massive corruption on the campaign trails and in the debates to assist down-ticket and state races. Force GOP leaders and candidates to continue to try to defend the indefensible, looking more and more corrupt and ridiculous. Back McConnell into a tight fucking corner and make GOP Senators running for re-election sweat blood.

That’s the way I’d do it anyway.

Convenient that any televised hearings for the next 90-120 days will be during summer vacation. When I used to watch the soaps, summer was the time for the big Young Love storylines ‘cause the daytime TV audience skewed much younger than the rest of the year.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 7, 2019 • 10:53:41am
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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 10:57:02am

re: #229 The Vicious Babushka

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Her family should sue the state of Texas.

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DodgerFan1988  May 7, 2019 • 10:59:23am

re: #229 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:00:31am

re: #231 DodgerFan1988

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And no justice happening.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 7, 2019 • 11:02:07am
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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 11:02:38am

re: #229 The Vicious Babushka

The cop seems to be angry that she knew her rights.

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2019 • 11:03:09am
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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:03:23am

re: #234 Belafon

The cop seems to be angry that she knew her rights.

Yeah. And then he lied about feeling threatened.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 7, 2019 • 11:04:11am

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:04:13am

re: #235 gocart mozart

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Says a lot these mediocre minds are what the right likes to consider intelligent and “edgy.”

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jaunte  May 7, 2019 • 11:05:27am
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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:05:37am

re: #237 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Yeah because being head of the Legal Services Corporation is nothing compared to being a model. This is also insulting to Martha Washington and Abigail Adams too and Betty Ford.

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DodgerFan1988  May 7, 2019 • 11:05:43am

re: #232 HappyWarrior

And no justice happening.

According to old tweets by Ben Shapiro, Steven Crowder, Carl Benjamin, James Woods, and Ted Nugent regarding the high-profile police shootings of African-Americans, “Justice was served.”

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:05:55am

re: #239 jaunte

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It’s always stupid hyperbole.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:06:19am

re: #241 DodgerFan1988

According to old tweets by Ben Shapiro, Steven Crowder, Carl Benjamin, James Woods, and Ted Nugent regarding the high-profile police shootings of African-Americans, “Justice was served.”

Yeah. They can go fuck off.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 7, 2019 • 11:06:52am

re: #235 gocart mozart

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Decatur Deb  May 7, 2019 • 11:07:41am

re: #237 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

“the most important and accomplished First Lady in American history, full stop.”

Mediocre overall, but she killed it in the swimsuit competition.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:08:48am

re: #244 The Vicious Babushka

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Apparently. I really hate what Bibi and his allies have done to the US-Israel relationship. To me, that relationship is supposed to be based on shared democratic values but now it’s your opinion on Bibi’s policy and Bibi is responsible for making that.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 7, 2019 • 11:11:21am

re: #245 Decatur Deb

Mediocre overall, but she killed it in the swimsuit competition.

Originalists still contend that surgical “enhancements” should be disqualifying

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2019 • 11:11:29am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2019 • 11:12:34am

re: #239 jaunte

Ah, the good old days when Spicers lying was the single most insane thing about this Administration.

The Dems have got to find a way to bring punishment for defying subpoenas. If they can’t, the Republicans now know they can get away with it.

And they’re going to keep doing it.

It will be the end of Congressional oversight.

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 11:15:42am

re: #249 Eclectic Cyborg

Ah, the good old days when Spicers lying was the single most insane thing about this Administration.

The Dems have got to find a way to bring punishment for defying subpoenas. If they can’t, the Republicans now know they can get away with it.

And they’re going to keep doing it.

It will be the end of Congressional oversight.

As long as McConnell is leading the Senate, it’s going to be a struggle. If we really like the rule-of-law, we’re going to have to change that next year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2019 • 11:16:56am

re: #234 Belafon

The cop seems to be angry that she knew her rights.

she was uppity…

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2019 • 11:17:17am

re: #250 Belafon

As long as McConnell is leading the Senate, it’s going to be a struggle. If we really like the rule-of-law, we’re going to have to change that next year.

I’m already preparing myself for a worst case scenario of the GOP keeping the senate and retaking the House. I’m in no way confident of a Blue wave next year.

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darthstar  May 7, 2019 • 11:17:22am

re: #222 Stanley Sea

In addition to you guys, is Merle hanging in there?

He is, thank you for asking. He has changed almost overnight…like he realizes he has a job to do. He’s been super sweet and far less demanding.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:18:53am

Lre: #252 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m already preparing myself for a worst case scenario of the GOP keeping the senate and retaking the House. I’m in no way confident of a Blue wave next year.

I’m more optimistic but we do have to prepare for the electorate having amnesia.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 7, 2019 • 11:19:06am

re: #89 Belafon

There’s a diary over at DK that describes the biggest problem: McConnell has discovered that he can ignore every norm and will not be held accountable.

I hope Kentucky shows him differently next year, but I’m not holding my breath.

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DodgerFan1988  May 7, 2019 • 11:19:29am

re: #234 Belafon

The cop seems to be angry that she knew her rights.

The ex-cop should be indicted for murder. Yes, Sandra Bland committed suicide but she was falsely imprisoned. False imprisonment is a felony and in the state of Texas if a death occurs in a commission of a felony, it’s first degree murder.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:19:44am

re: #255 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I hope Kentucky shows him differently next year, but I’m not holding my breath.

I just hope McGrath runs a grueling campaign and makes him sweat.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2019 • 11:20:08am

re: #254 HappyWarrior

L

I’m more optimistic but we do have to prepare for the electorate having amnesia.

and more Russian ratfucking.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2019 • 11:20:55am

re: #256 DodgerFan1988

The ex-cop should be indicted for murder. Yes, Sandra Bland committed suicide but she was falsely imprisoned. False imprisonment is a felony and in the state of Texas if a death occurs in a commission of a felony, it’s first degree murder.

Narrator: He won’t be indicted.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:20:56am

re: #258 Eclectic Cyborg

and more Russian ratfucking.

Yes. Definitely on the look out for that. Since it’s obvious the WH doesn’t care if they do it again.

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DangerMan  May 7, 2019 • 11:22:14am

re: #249 Eclectic Cyborg

Ah, the good old days when Spicers lying was the single most insane thing about this Administration.

The Dems have got to find a way to bring punishment for defying subpoenas. If they can’t, the Republicans now know they can get away with it.

And they’re going to keep doing it.

It will be the end of Congressional oversight.

choose your metaphor:

- giving them enough rope to hang themselves
- another brick in the wall

never interrupt your enemy…

house dems are letting the admin build their case for them

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 7, 2019 • 11:22:17am

re: #252 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m already preparing myself for a worst case scenario of the GOP keeping the senate and retaking the House. I’m in no way confident of a Blue wave next year.

That is pessimistic. 2018 was unprecedented in terms of midterm turnout, and Trump was not even on the ballot to motivate people to come out to vote. We heavily outnumber them; at best they are 46%.

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allegro  May 7, 2019 • 11:23:24am
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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:24:07am

re: #262 NO SMOCKING GUN!

That is pessimistic. 2018 was unprecedented in terms of midterm turnout, and Trump was not even on the ballot to motivate people to come out to vote. We heavily outnumber them; at best they are 46%.

Yeah. I’m more glass half full since he’s consistently polling below 50%. Just because people may be unsure on impeachment doesn’t mean they don’t want him gone.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 7, 2019 • 11:24:26am

re: #257 HappyWarrior

I just hope McGrath runs a grueling campaign and makes him sweat.

It would be nice if he had to spend all the money he raises in Kentucky and can’t spread it around to help his minions.

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retired cynic  May 7, 2019 • 11:24:44am

re: #240 HappyWarrior

Yeah because being head of the Legal Services Corporation is nothing compared to being a model. This is also insulting to Martha Washington and Abigail Adams too and Betty Ford.

ALL OF THEM!

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2019 • 11:25:02am

re: #261 DangerMan

choose your metaphor:

- giving them enough rope to hang themselves
- another brick in the wall

never interrupt your enemy…

house dems are letting the admin build their case for them

A case is great, but who will enforce the penalties?

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 7, 2019 • 11:25:08am

re: #252 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m already preparing myself for a worst case scenario of the GOP keeping the senate and retaking the House. I’m in no way confident of a Blue wave next year.

I could point to the changes in the polls, the increase in voters on the Dem side, court decisions overthrowing gerrymandering, and the special elections in deep red states/districts that have gone blue, but heaven forbid that I break the general gloom.

But also, don’t get complacent.

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DangerMan  May 7, 2019 • 11:25:13am

re: #263 allegro

Speaker Nancy Pelosi: “On the floor of the Senate, Senator McConnell is reported to be saying, ‘It doesn’t matter if we hear from Mueller, case closed, case closed.’ No, I don’t think so. I don’t think so.”

“if mitch wants to ignore what’s going on in front of him, put his fingers in his ears and go ‘la la la’, Mr. Mueller can come and talk to us.”

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:25:57am

re: #266 retired cynic

ALL OF THEM!

Seriously.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2019 • 11:26:40am

re: #268 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

I’m just in an especially cynical mood today.

I’m so sick of Republicans breaking the rules over and over and over again WITHOUT consequence.

It’s just fucking awful.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:26:58am

re: #268 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

I could point to the changes in the polls, the increase in voters on the Dem side, court decisions overthrowing gerrymandering, and the special elections in deep red states/districts that have gone blue, but heaven forbid that I break the general gloom.

But also, don’t get complacent.

You do understand that a lot were shellshocked by 2016. That said, you explain well why I’m glass half full.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 7, 2019 • 11:28:11am

re: #79 Belafon

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:29:19am

I also think Trump’s whole con puts him at a huge disadvantage that he didn’t have from the outside.

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jaunte  May 7, 2019 • 11:29:23am
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The Vicious Babushka  May 7, 2019 • 11:29:32am

re: #262 NO SMOCKING GUN!

That is pessimistic. 2018 was unprecedented in terms of midterm turnout, and Trump was not even on the ballot to motivate people to come out to vote. We heavily outnumber them; at best they are 46%.

The reason we did not overtake the Senate in 2018 is that not enough Republicans were up for reelection. We can do it next year.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:30:29am

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

The reason we did not overtake the Senate in 2018 is that not enough Republicans were up for reelection. We can do it next year.

Yep. Very favorable map for Republicans last fall that will be considerably less so in 2020.

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2019 • 11:30:48am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 7, 2019 • 11:31:37am

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

The reason we did not overtake the Senate in 2018 is that not enough Republicans were up for reelection. We can do it next year.

Then the Ds have to abolish the filibuster, or all they will pass is two reconciliation bills.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:32:01am

re: #278 gocart mozart

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You could actually do something about bullying instead of whining at your critics, Ms. Be Best who married one of the worst people in American history.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 7, 2019 • 11:32:59am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

Yep. Very favorable map for Republicans last fall that will be considerably less so in 2020.

But still not an easy map for the D’s to get to 50. And they have to.

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retired cynic  May 7, 2019 • 11:33:25am

re: #281 NO SMOCKING GUN!

But still not an easy map for the D’s to get to 50. And they have to.

51

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DangerMan  May 7, 2019 • 11:33:31am
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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:33:31am

re: #281 NO SMOCKING GUN!

But still not an easy map for the D’s to get to 50. And they have to.

Not easy, no but definitely possible.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 7, 2019 • 11:34:43am

re: #282 retired cynic

51

If they have the VP, they only need 50. Though the more the better, since one of them is Manchin.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:34:50am

re: #283 DangerMan

schumer and warren speak

I really want bad fortune to befall Mitch. I’ll take his last years spent in poverty, alone, & in prison.

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 11:35:06am

re: #281 NO SMOCKING GUN!

But still not an easy map for the D’s to get to 50. And they have to.

It isn’t easy, but it wouldn’t have been out of the ordinary to have lost six or seven seats in the senate last year with as skewed as the map was.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2019 • 11:36:30am

re: #286 HappyWarrior

I really want bad fortune to befall Mitch. I’ll take his last years spent in poverty, alone, & in prison.

Maybe we could find him a nice fenced in area near the southern border?

//

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jaunte  May 7, 2019 • 11:36:42am
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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:37:25am

re: #289 jaunte

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Nope. Only takes responsibility for good things. Never takes responsibility for bad because he’s a gutless coward.

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jaunte  May 7, 2019 • 11:39:57am
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retired cynic  May 7, 2019 • 11:40:01am

re: #285 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If they have the VP, they only need 50. Though the more the better, since one of them is Manchin.

Yep, but if they don’t have the VP, worst case scenario, we need that 51+!

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DangerMan  May 7, 2019 • 11:44:42am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

Nope. Only takes responsibility for good things. Never takes responsibility for bad because he’s a gutless coward.

today is obama’s fault, no doubt.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:45:16am

re: #291 jaunte

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I really wish both were doing better. They’re both solid guys.

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DangerMan  May 7, 2019 • 11:47:02am

from twitter

to recap—
Trump is a genius but you can’t see his grades
Trump is healthy but you can’t see his medical report
Trump is rich but you can’t see his tax returns
Trump is innocent but you can’t see the unredacted report
Trump is honest but you can’t question the White House counsel

(And his tailor just made him a fabulous new suit, but only the righteous and bigly smart people can see it.)

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Decatur Deb  May 7, 2019 • 11:47:21am

re: #294 HappyWarrior

I really wish both were doing better. They’re both solid guys.

If Beto could deliver Texas, he would be an obvious running mate for a (ahem) more experienced lead.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:48:37am

re: #296 Decatur Deb

If Beto could deliver Texas, he would be an obvious running mate for a (ahem) more experienced lead.

He still could I think. Beto would definitely help in the SW.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 7, 2019 • 11:50:34am
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Skip Intro  May 7, 2019 • 11:51:12am

re: #282 retired cynic

51

52+ or Manchin will switch to R.

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Decatur Deb  May 7, 2019 • 11:52:38am

re: #299 Skip Intro

52+ or Manchin will switch to R.

And Doug Jones’ seat is almost certainly gone unless Roy Moore follows a voice from a burning bush and runs again.

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2019 • 11:55:01am

re: #297 HappyWarrior

Depends on who the niminee is. Beto would make sense as a running mate for Kamala or Warren. Biden or Bernie* would be wise to pick a minority or a woman or a black woman.

* Biden or Bernie won’t be the nominee. I’m giving odds of 10 to 1 if you want to put money on it. Send your bets to:

Illegal Gambling
c/o Charles Johnson
@ Little Green Footballs

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2019 • 11:55:32am

re: #294 HappyWarrior

I really wish both were doing better. They’re both solid guys.

Sadly, politics is very often a “Nice guys finish last” kind of business.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:55:37am

re: #301 gocart mozart

Depends on who the niminee is. Beto would make sense as a running mate for Kamala or Warren. Biden or Bernie* would be wise to pick a minority or a woman or a black woman.

* Biden or Bernie won’t be the nominee. I’m giving odds of 10 to 1 if you want to put money on it. Send your bets to:

Illegal Gambling
c/o Charles Johnson
@ Little Green Footballs

Kamala-Beto is my ticket now.

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Decatur Deb  May 7, 2019 • 11:55:51am

re: #301 gocart mozart

Warren/Beto

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:56:38am

re: #302 Eclectic Cyborg

Sadly, politics is very often a “Nice guys finish last” kind of business.

Yeah but they bring imo more to the table than some of the others ahead of them. I’d love for Beto or Julian to have a role in the executive branch.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:57:18am

re: #304 Decatur Deb

Warren/Beto

Warren/Castro I think would be better.

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Decatur Deb  May 7, 2019 • 11:58:08am

re: #306 HappyWarrior

Warren/Castro I think would be better.

Keeping a pretty low profile, right now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2019 • 11:59:02am

Warren has too much baggage. That Pocahontas shit would do her in, I’m telling you.

I’m fine with any combination of Beto/Harris/Castro.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 11:59:25am

re: #307 Decatur Deb

Keeping a pretty low profile, right now.

Either way, she’d do well with a Texan.

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2019 • 12:00:21pm

re: #300 Decatur Deb

And Doug Jones’ seat is almost certainly gone unless Roy Moore follows a voice from a burning bush and runs again.

Moore barely lost last time. He’s a shoe in this time around.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 12:00:50pm

re: #308 Eclectic Cyborg

Warren has too much baggage. That Pocahontas shit would do her in, I’m telling you.

I’m fine with any combination of Beto/Harris/Castro.

I’m worried about that too but I’m really impressed with her as a candidate. If it’s Biden, id pair him with Harris or another woman. I don’t trust Bernie at all and imo he’s in free fall mode.

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Decatur Deb  May 7, 2019 • 12:00:56pm

re: #310 Skip Intro

Moore barely lost last time. He’s a shoe in this time around.

Not if I can help it. And I will.

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KGxvi  May 7, 2019 • 12:03:45pm

re: #296 Decatur Deb

If Beto could deliver Texas, he would be an obvious running mate for a (ahem) more experienced lead.

Honest question, when was the last time that a VP nominee “delivered” states? I don’t think it’s happened in the modern (post-1960) era, has it?

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sagehen  May 7, 2019 • 12:04:44pm

re: #240 HappyWarrior

Yeah because being head of the Legal Services Corporation is nothing compared to being a model. This is also insulting to Martha Washington and Abigail Adams too and Betty Ford.

Even Ladybird Johnson. And all she did was convince people to plant wildflowers near highways so drivers would see prettier scenery.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 7, 2019 • 12:05:14pm

re: #303 HappyWarrior

Kamala-Beto is my ticket now.

Kamala/Cory

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 12:06:32pm

re: #313 KGxvi

Honest question, when was the last time that a VP nominee “delivered” states? I don’t think it’s happened in the modern (post-1960) era, has it?

I’m not sure. TBH the VP has increasingly been an important part of the executive branch which is why I think Biden got Obama praise whereas Palin did not for McCain.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 12:07:27pm

re: #315 The Vicious Babushka

Kamala/Cory

I like O’Rourke more but Cory is a great voice on criminal justice reform.

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jimmyvluv4u  May 7, 2019 • 12:07:43pm

Cthulhu/Azathoth 2020

Link

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2019 • 12:08:04pm

I’ve been checking the area animal shelter websites and found a possible new member of the family. Sent an email. Haven’t told MrBWS yet.
I was leaning toward an older dog, but this puppy is supposed to be good with dogs AND cats (this is very important) and the elderly coonhound desperately adores puppies and kittens or babies of any species (her maternal instinct never left her).
This pup is so cute, I suspect somebody may have already adopted him, but hope springs eternal.

Now I wait…

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William Lewis  May 7, 2019 • 12:08:39pm

So, I was tracking some info and it took me to an article on a web site that complained about my use of an ad blocker. Ok, I really wanted to read that article so I white listed it.

First ad that comes up? For an ad blocker… SMH :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2019 • 12:09:09pm

re: #314 sagehen

Even Ladybird Johnson. And all she did was convince people to plant wildflowers near highways so drivers would see prettier scenery.

and her hats…those were always stylish yet tasteful

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Decatur Deb  May 7, 2019 • 12:09:45pm

re: #313 KGxvi

Honest question, when was the last time that a VP nominee “delivered” states? I don’t think it’s happened in the modern (post-1960) era, has it?

Would have to research. Back when triceratops walked the land, it was a bit of a disgrace not to hold your state, and help in the region.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 12:10:37pm

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

and her hats…those were always stylish yet tasteful

She promoted the CRA-1964 too per Wiki.

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DangerMan  May 7, 2019 • 12:10:46pm

re: #314 sagehen

Even Ladybird Johnson. And all she did was convince people to plant wildflowers near highways so drivers would see prettier scenery.

compare the two wiki pages

be best
highway beautification

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2019 • 12:11:30pm

I’ve been trying to spread this rumor that Trump is a bastard child of a Nazi war criminal for almost two years and nobody helps push it. Fucking liberals and their “evidence” and “facts”

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KGxvi  May 7, 2019 • 12:12:15pm

re: #316 HappyWarrior

I’m not sure. TBH the VP has increasingly been an important part of the executive branch which is why I think Biden got Obama praise whereas Palin did not for McCain.

The evolution of the VP has been somewhat fascinating. It really started during the Truman administration when he realized FDR hadn’t kept him in the loop on stuff like WWII. So it’s not so much “wake up and call to check on the president’s health” but how much the president does really depends on the president.

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2019 • 12:12:27pm

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 7, 2019 • 12:13:41pm
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Decatur Deb  May 7, 2019 • 12:14:13pm

re: #313 KGxvi

(snicker) The modern era started in 1960. (snicker)

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 12:14:43pm

re: #325 gocart mozart

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I’m so sick of this shit directed at the children of immigrants.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 12:15:10pm

re: #328 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

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Mitch’s wife is also in Trumps Cabinet.

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KGxvi  May 7, 2019 • 12:15:52pm

re: #322 Decatur Deb

Would have to research. Back when triceratops walked the land, it was a bit of a disgrace not to hold your state, and help in the region.

The last time I can think of a VP pick being that sort of “expand the field” sort of pick was Edwards in 2004. North Carolina hadn’t voted for the Democratic ticket since 1980 (and didn’t in 2004). But otherwise most of the choices that I can think of weren’t the type that would change the map, as it were.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 12:16:39pm

re: #326 KGxvi

The evolution of the VP has been somewhat fascinating. It really started during the Truman administration when he realized FDR hadn’t kept him in the loop on stuff like WWII. So it’s not so much “wake up and call to check on the president’s health” but how much the president does really depends on the president.

Yeah FDR really didn’t prepare Truman at all. Makes his presidency all the more impressive imo. But I’d call the first modern VP, Nixon.

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KGxvi  May 7, 2019 • 12:17:04pm

re: #329 Decatur Deb

(snicker) The modern era started in 1960. (snicker)

I just mean as far as how our presidential elections work. That was the first year with actual primaries and where the VP picks (or for that matter, the presidential nominees) weren’t necessarily the result of backroom deals.

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2019 • 12:17:22pm

And here we go.

4 B-52s deploying to Middle East amid threat of “possible attack”

cbsnews.com

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 12:17:29pm

re: #332 KGxvi

The last time I can think of a VP pick being that sort of “expand the field” sort of pick was Edwards in 2004. North Carolina hadn’t voted for the Democratic ticket since 1980 (and didn’t in 2004). But otherwise most of the choices that I can think of weren’t the type that would change the map, as it were.

Edwards was such a disappointment. I thought he would help Kerry among blue collar workers. No evidence he helped at all.

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2019 • 12:17:54pm

re: #330 HappyWarrior

My mom was an immigrant, green card holder till the day she died. On my dad’s side I can trace back to 1644 New Haven Colony but I’m not a real American to these assholes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2019 • 12:17:54pm

I had no idea that there were LOOPHOLES that needed to be closed…

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DangerMan  May 7, 2019 • 12:18:36pm

re: #325 gocart mozart

Anchor baby refers to a child purposely born on U.S. soil to anchor the child’s citizenship. There is nothing pejorative or prejudicial about it. It accurately describes a phenomenon. Kamala’s parents didn’t purposefully anchor her here, but the circumstance & result R the same.

‘anchor babies’ are natural born citizens. <<<<<<<<<<<———— that there is a full stop.

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2019 • 12:19:02pm

re: #339 DangerMan

Are we really going to go through this shit again?

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 12:19:09pm

re: #337 gocart mozart

My mom was an immigrant, green card holder till the day she died. On my dad’s side I can trace back to 1644 New Haven Colony but I’m not a real American to these assholes.

My mom’s older aunts and uncles were born when mom’s grandparents were still resident aliens. It pisses me off too.

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KGxvi  May 7, 2019 • 12:19:45pm

re: #340 Skip Intro

Are we really going to go through this shit again?

It’s been a couple of months, so apparently

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2019 • 12:20:14pm

re: #336 HappyWarrior

Clinton/Gore won Tennessee in 1992.

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Decatur Deb  May 7, 2019 • 12:20:46pm

re: #334 KGxvi

I just mean as far as how our presidential elections work. That was the first year with actual primaries and where the VP picks (or for that matter, the presidential nominees) weren’t necessarily the result of backroom deals.

Critical example would be JFK taking Texas by 50.52%. That was all LBJ, and without it there would have been no Kennedy echo.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  May 7, 2019 • 12:21:24pm

re: #340 Skip Intro

We will always go through this again and again as long as there are Conservatives and people with skin darker than a latte.

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Teukka  May 7, 2019 • 12:21:24pm

Watching the first episode of the Chernobyl Miniseries. So far so good.

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DangerMan  May 7, 2019 • 12:21:47pm

re: #328 Dread Pirate Union AFL-CIO

The Senate Majority Leader argued in a speech Tuesday that the Democrats are continuing to relitigate the 2016 election results.

whether oversight and impeachment are ‘relitigating’ the last election, or a ‘coup’, or “overturning’ or whatever term you like, they are both nonetheless:

- constitutional
- and require the attention of congress by their oath of office

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 12:21:59pm

re: #343 gocart mozart

Clinton/Gore won Tennessee in 1992.

Would Clinton have won TN without Gore tho? Clinton was the last national Dem that was competitive throughout the South. Obama was in parts and in fact more successful in some areas.

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DangerMan  May 7, 2019 • 12:23:31pm

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

I had no idea that there were LOOPHOLES that needed to be closed…

Democrats in Congress must vote to close the terrible loopholes at the Southern Border. If not, harsh measures will have to be taken!

you already declared an emergency. what else you got?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2019 • 12:23:51pm

the moron-in-chief will be so jelly…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2019 • 12:24:56pm

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

the moron-in-chief will be so jelly…

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jfc…that pavement looks like shit

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 12:25:01pm

re: #327 Skip Intro

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So, revolution then?

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KGxvi  May 7, 2019 • 12:25:18pm

re: #348 HappyWarrior

Would Clinton have won TN without Gore tho? Clinton was the last national Dem that was competitive throughout the South. Obama was in parts and in fact more successful in some areas.

Clinton was a Southern Democrat, and the first one nominated since Carter. Like Carter in 1976, he carried a whole lot of the South in both 1992 and 1996. I’m not sure how much of a factor being a Southern Democrat is anymore, but we also haven’t seen one since Gore in 2000 (and I’m not sure how many people really considered him a Southern Democrat). Basically, not sure if it’s a correlation or causation thing.

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2019 • 12:25:34pm

re: #352 Belafon

So, revolution then?

Or dictatorship. You decide.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2019 • 12:25:52pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2019 • 12:25:55pm

re: #335 Skip Intro

And here we go.

4 B-52s deploying to Middle East amid threat of “possible attack”

cbsnews.com

What are the odds we start bombing Iran the same day Mueller is due to testify before congress?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 7, 2019 • 12:26:46pm

Remember when forced birthers pretended Trump was wrong to say there had to be punishment for women who got abortions? They lied. Check out @MDBlanchfield’s Tweet:

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 12:27:24pm

re: #348 HappyWarrior

Would Clinton have won TN without Gore tho? Clinton was the last national Dem that was competitive throughout the South. Obama was in parts and in fact more successful in some areas.

The problem with the original question is you can’t truly prove it. But I would argue that Gore helped as did LBJ.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 7, 2019 • 12:28:01pm

Invasion?

State Department Live: @3:25 EDT

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 12:28:57pm

re: #353 KGxvi

Clinton was a Southern Democrat, and the first one nominated since Carter. Like Carter in 1976, he carried a whole lot of the South in both 1992 and 1996. I’m not sure how much of a factor being a Southern Democrat is anymore, but we also haven’t seen one since Gore in 2000 (and I’m not sure how many people really considered him a Southern Democrat). Basically, not sure if it’s a correlation or causation thing.

Yeah that’s true. TBH I think the SW is the future of the party. I’m not a huge Sinema fan in Arizona but her win over McSally was very impressive.

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DangerMan  May 7, 2019 • 12:28:59pm

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think it might be easier to count the small minority of former federal prosecutors who DON’T agree that the Mueller report shows Trump is a felon!

well now/today, sure.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 12:29:26pm

re: #358 Belafon

The problem with the original question is you can’t truly prove it. But I would argue that Gore helped as did LBJ.

He certainly didn’t hurt.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2019 • 12:30:00pm

lower insurance premiums? bawahahahahahaaaaaaa….no

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 12:30:06pm

re: #354 Skip Intro

Or dictatorship. You decide.

Because, if you’re going to use those images, there is nothing we can do short of overthrowing the system by force. Playing by the rules includes issuing a contempt ruling and getting a judge to issue an arrest warrant.

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Decatur Deb  May 7, 2019 • 12:30:10pm

re: #351 Backwoods_Sleuth

jfc…that pavement looks like shit

A Main Battle Tank puts about 70-80 tons on it.

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KGxvi  May 7, 2019 • 12:30:46pm

re: #358 Belafon

The problem with the original question is you can’t truly prove it. But I would argue that Gore helped as did LBJ.

There’s also a complicating factor of Perot in both 1992 and 1996. We know that nationally Perot’s vote in 1992 was fairly evenly split between Clinton and Bush supporters had he not been in the race. But we don’t know how that would have played out at the state level. Gore in 2000 got something like 47-48% in Tennessee while in a losing effort, which was about what Clinton won Tennessee twice with about the same vote.

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Belafon  May 7, 2019 • 12:32:15pm

re: #366 KGxvi

There’s also a complicating factor of Perot in both 1992 and 1996. We know that nationally Perot’s vote in 1992 was fairly evenly split between Clinton and Bush supporters had he not been in the race. But we don’t know how that would have played out at the state level. Gore in 2000 got something like 47-48% in Tennessee while in a losing effort, which was about what Clinton won Tennessee twice with about the same vote.

This probably would be a great Nate Silver question.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 12:32:34pm

re: #366 KGxvi

There’s also a complicating factor of Perot in both 1992 and 1996. We know that nationally Perot’s vote in 1992 was fairly evenly split between Clinton and Bush supporters had he not been in the race. But we don’t know how that would have played out at the state level. Gore in 2000 got something like 47-48% in Tennessee while in a losing effort, which was about what Clinton won Tennessee twice with about the same vote.

Ahhh. I never thought about that. Gore took a lot of heat for losing TN in 2000 but the state had politically moved to the right in his time as VP.

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sagehen  May 7, 2019 • 12:32:42pm

re: #313 KGxvi

Honest question, when was the last time that a VP nominee “delivered” states? I don’t think it’s happened in the modern (post-1960) era, has it?

They didn’t deliver States as such, but Dan Quayle and Sarah Palin and Mike Pence delivered evangelical voting blocs.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 12:34:34pm

re: #367 Belafon

This probably would be a great Nate Silver question.

One of my most interesting observations is my grandparents home county in PA. Went for Mondale and later Trump.

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Barefoot Grin  May 7, 2019 • 12:34:46pm

re: #337 gocart mozart

My mom was an immigrant, green card holder till the day she died. On my dad’s side I can trace back to 1644 New Haven Colony but I’m not a real American to these assholes.

Our first ancestor here on dad’s side left what is now Cambridge, MA to go to New Haven with Thomas Hooker….

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2019 • 12:34:51pm

I’m going to try to bring the political discussion here back into the current century if you don’t mind.

Why the Mueller testimony is not a sure thing.

Trump himself could not stop Mueller from testifying, but he could try to convince his attorney general not to allow his testimony. If the Justice Department were to change course and oppose Mueller appearing before Congress, lawmakers would have several possible options to try to bring him in anyway.

The first would be to wait until Mueller is a private citizen, although the special counsel’s office has given no indication when Mueller will leave the department.
The second would be to subpoena for his testimony.

In addition, the White House has another tool to try to limit Mueller’s testimony: claim executive privilege over certain elements of the report.

The White House waived executive privilege for the special counsel investigation and didn’t try to block anything in the release of the report — but the White House argues it has not waived executive privilege for Congress, and still reserves the right to invoke it with the legislative branch.

cnn.com

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 12:35:10pm

re: #369 sagehen

They didn’t deliver States as such, but Dan Quayle and Sarah Palin delivered evangelical voting blocs.

I always forget how the Evangelicals didn’t trust Poppy Bush at first.

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KGxvi  May 7, 2019 • 12:35:46pm

re: #360 HappyWarrior

Yeah that’s true. TBH I think the SW is the future of the party. I’m not a huge Sinema fan in Arizona but her win over McSally was very impressive.

Nevada and New Mexico seem to be fairly solidly blue, and most of southern California is running that way now too. So, I suspect that Arizona will probably flip in the next couple of cycles. As it stands now, there are Democrats holding 5 of 9 House seats in Arizona. But the GOP does have a trifecta at the state level (bonus: Arizona has a non-partisan redistricting committee)

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Teukka  May 7, 2019 • 12:36:04pm

re: #356 Eclectic Cyborg

What are the odds we start bombing Iran the same day Mueller is due to testify before congress?

Odds on, like, 10:1?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 7, 2019 • 12:37:06pm
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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 12:38:49pm

re: #376 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Remember when Trump was a dove and Clinton the hawk.

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KGxvi  May 7, 2019 • 12:38:56pm

re: #376 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Military action, against a nation that counts Russia among its allies? Even if POTUS wasn’t compromised by the Russian government, that would be a stupid decision.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 12:39:57pm

Military action is exactly what Maduro and by extension Putin want.

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KGxvi  May 7, 2019 • 12:40:05pm

re: #363 Backwoods_Sleuth

Aren’t auto insurance rates basically determined by how many cars are on the road and how often they are inclined to either go missing or collide with each other and/or other obstacles?

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Decatur Deb  May 7, 2019 • 12:40:32pm

Carter in 1976 did well enough in the South, but needed the Northern industrialized states. He won one of his biggest margins (12.4%) in Minnesota, home of Mondale.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2019 • 12:41:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2019 • 12:42:38pm

^^THIS^^

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 12:42:53pm

re: #381 Decatur Deb

Carter in 1976 did well enough in the South, but needed the Northern industrialized states. He won one of his biggest margins in Minnesota, home of Mondale.

1976 is one of the oddest post WWII maps.

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Teukka  May 7, 2019 • 12:44:23pm

re: #346 Teukka

Watching the first episode of the Chernobyl Miniseries. So far so good.

I totally can see why it has a 15 years age rating here in Northern Europe. This one opened with Legasov’s death. No punches pulled, tho not any hard punches yet, but my gut says they will ramp up the radiological horror per the minute. Nope. Not nerfed.

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KGxvi  May 7, 2019 • 12:45:30pm

re: #384 HappyWarrior

1976 is one of the oddest post WWII maps.

It was an odd election in general. A fairly conservative southern Democrat. A near floor fight at the GOP convention. And the ghost of Nixon hanging over the whole thing.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 12:46:05pm

re: #383 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

^^THIS^^

I see that I’m not the only one who sees My Lai parallels here.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 12:46:19pm

re: #386 KGxvi

It was an odd election in general. A fairly conservative southern Democrat. A near floor fight at the GOP convention. And the ghost of Nixon hanging over the whole thing.

Definitely.

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2019 • 12:47:52pm

re: #371 Barefoot Grin

Perhaps he knew Thomas and Rebecca Mix.

Thomas (he spelled his name “Meekes” in early records) came to New Haven, Connecticut sometime before 1647 when he is first mentioned in town records. Thomas and Rebecca married when she became pregnant and were called before the court July 3, 1649 “to answer to their sinful miscarriage in matter of fornication, with sundry lies added thereto by them both in a gross and heinous matter.” Thomas was ordered severely whipped and fined 5 pounds, and Rebecca was fined 10 pounds.

ref: “Records of the Colony and Plantation of New Haven, from 1638 to 1649”, transcribed and edited by Charles J Hoad ly, Hartford CT (Case, Tiffany and Co) 1857, p 480.

freepages.rootsweb.com

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2019 • 12:48:57pm

re: #389 gocart mozart

Perhaps he knew Thomas and Rebecca Mix.

freepages.rootsweb.com

Meanwhile all I’ve got is names and in some cases nothing at all beyond a certain point.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 7, 2019 • 12:51:03pm

re: #346 Teukka

Watching the first episode of the Chernobyl Miniseries. So far so good.

Watched it last night. The screen writers didn’t pull any punches and the acting is outstanding.

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Decatur Deb  May 7, 2019 • 12:51:24pm

Going to stick with an updated version of the “balanced” ticket—young/old, M/F, POC/White, regional disparity. Straight/gay is probably a wash until it becomes immaterial.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2019 • 12:54:32pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 7, 2019 • 12:54:58pm

re: #389 gocart mozart

Perhaps he knew Thomas and Rebecca Mix.

freepages.rootsweb.com

Whoa. (Yes, I think it was a pretty small community at the start.)

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 7, 2019 • 1:05:02pm

re: #385 Teukka

I totally can see why it has a 15 years age rating here in Northern Europe. This one opened with Legasov’s death. No punches pulled, tho not any hard punches yet, but my gut says they will ramp up the radiological horror per the minute. Nope. Not nerfed.

Spoiler

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plansbandc  May 7, 2019 • 1:07:32pm

Getting an http error 500 trying to load the new page.

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lawhawk  May 7, 2019 • 1:14:33pm

re: #266 retired cynic

It’s insulting to Edith Wilson, who essentially ran the nation when Woodrow had his stroke, and was telling everyone what Woodrow would have done (no one knows, since she controlled all the information).

It’s insulting to Eleanor Roosevelt, who fought to get the military integrated and other social causes while in the WH.

It’s insulting to every other First Lady.

But it’s par for the course where Trump does everything better (he doesn’t) and his wife gets the same hyperbolic treatment. Melania’s be best nonsense doesn’t even survive first contact with the tangerine toddler.


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