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Dave In Austin  May 9, 2019 • 8:23:20pm

Good evening fellow travelers!

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Belafon  May 9, 2019 • 8:25:06pm

Someone took the audio from one of the Avengers Endgame trailers and put it over scenes from Nintendo games tied to Super Smash Bros:

Smash Bros. Ultimate - (Avengers: Endgame Style)

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 9, 2019 • 8:33:04pm

Trump is weak.

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Belafon  May 9, 2019 • 8:34:17pm

re: #3 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

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Trump is weak.

It might be, but Trump doesn’t know that. They shouldn’t bet on Trump actually knowing anything.

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Patricia Kayden  May 9, 2019 • 8:39:34pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 9, 2019 • 8:40:09pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 9, 2019 • 8:44:36pm

re: #4 Belafon

It might be, but Trump doesn’t know that. They shouldn’t bet on Trump actually knowing anything.

I have to believe that they think the election of Trump is conclusive proof that our governmental system is too flawed for any modern society to adopt and confirms that their approach is superior. It’s more likely that they believe that their concerted economic attack on his voter base will force him to compromise.

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gocart mozart  May 9, 2019 • 8:46:18pm
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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2019 • 8:48:59pm

re: #5 Patricia Kayden

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Which is the reason why Biden has surged and Bernie has fallen.

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gocart mozart  May 9, 2019 • 8:49:40pm
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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2019 • 8:51:02pm

re: #10 gocart mozart

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Bullshit Liz.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2019 • 8:51:51pm

You don’t get to accuse people of helping Putin when your president won’t even acknowledge Russian interference.

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gocart mozart  May 9, 2019 • 8:52:10pm
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mmmirele  May 9, 2019 • 8:55:23pm

I went over to see my mom and brother before I go to Japan on Saturday morning. I told my brother about the encounter with the 11 YO boy who told me that women who have abortions should be executed. My brother is WAY more conservative than I am and would be considered a soft pro-lifer. But after I told him, he said FUCK and then said that kids shouldn’t even know about abortion.* He had a disgusted look on his face. He wasn’t mad at me, he was mad that the kid knew about this. I’ve never seen my brother that pissed off about a political issue.

* I told him that at 11 I knew about abortion, but he reminded me that I was unusual. Which is true.

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gocart mozart  May 9, 2019 • 8:57:14pm
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gocart mozart  May 9, 2019 • 8:58:39pm
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Dr Lizardo  May 9, 2019 • 8:59:27pm

re: #15 gocart mozart

About the only folks I can think of that still prohibit usury are Muslims (granted, they’d argue that any form of interest is “usury” and there are ways around that in Islamic finance).

Christians? Hell, that idea went out the window long before I was born. As in, centuries before.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 9, 2019 • 9:00:24pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

You don’t get to accuse people of helping Putin when your president won’t even acknowledge Russian interference.

She’s doing a classic DARVO. The Cheney family has no ethics and, as a reminder, Cheney actually did shoot someone and the victim apologized. I do remain puzzled on why all these formerly staunch anti-Communists have fallen in love with Putin. Is it because Putin abandoned Communism and joined Oligarchs Intl?

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DodgerFan1988  May 9, 2019 • 9:01:40pm

Here comes the “it’s a joke, snowflakes” in 3-2-1.

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gocart mozart  May 9, 2019 • 9:04:07pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 9, 2019 • 9:08:39pm

New Space Race heating up:

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 9, 2019 • 9:10:34pm

quelle surprise.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 9, 2019 • 9:14:01pm

re: #21 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

New Space Race heating up:

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He should probably work on orbiting earth once first.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2019 • 9:14:33pm

re: #18 Hecuba’s daughter

She’s doing a classic DARVO. The Cheney family has no ethics and, as a reminder, Cheney actually did shoot someone and the victim apologized. I do remain puzzled on why all these formerly staunch anti-Communists have fallen in love with Putin. Is it because Putin abandoned Communism and joined Oligarchs Intl?

Putin is a nationalist who hates the EU. They are nationalists too.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2019 • 9:15:15pm

re: #19 DodgerFan1988

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Here comes the “it’s a joke, snowflakes” in 3-2-1.

Nice friends you got there Candece.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 9, 2019 • 9:16:41pm

All males should get vasectomies at birth. The procedure can be reversed when they marry the woman AND prove worthy of fatherhood. Any male that has the procedure reversed before then should get life in prison.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 9, 2019 • 9:23:22pm

re: #23 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

He should probably work on orbiting earth once first.

He is working on that. His engines are looking good. Their New Glenn orbital vehicle has apparently been moved to the back burner in favor of providing the BE-4 engine to ULA for the Vulcan rocket. BE-4 is well ahead of SpaceX’s comparable Raptor engine family in timing, and both are a generation ahead of the current SpaceX Merlin engine in technology.

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KGxvi  May 9, 2019 • 9:26:11pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Putin is a nationalist who hates the EU. They are nationalists too.

I think it’s a combination of nationalism, oligarchy, and his reactionary stance on most social issues. Basically, they see him as a fellow traveler.

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HappyWarrior  May 9, 2019 • 9:31:02pm

re: #28 KGxvi

I think it’s a combination of nationalism, oligarchy, and his reactionary stance on most social issues. Basically, they see him as a fellow traveler.

Agreed. They see him as an ally more than they do say Merkel since Merkel while conservative isn’t nationalistic, oligarchic, or reactionary.

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Belafon  May 9, 2019 • 9:40:46pm

re: #26 GlutenFreeJesus

All males should get vasectomies at birth. The procedure can be reversed when they marry the woman AND prove worthy of fatherhood. Any male that has the procedure reversed before then should get life in prison.

That’s almost as good as mine, which would require all women, mostly the rich, who fly out of the country on a ticket less than two weeks old to get a pregnancy test before they leave, and, if pregnant, to get another one on the way back. Why should poorer women be the only ones stuck with these laws.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 9, 2019 • 9:53:09pm

re: #30 Belafon

That’s almost as good as mine, which would require all women, mostly the rich, who fly out of the country on a ticket less than two weeks old to get a pregnancy test before they leave, and, if pregnant, to get another one on the way back. Why should poorer women be the only ones stuck with these laws.

If men want that little blue pill then they should be required to have a mandatory 72 hour waiting period during which they would be forced to watch videos outlining their responsibilities as a potential parent and see what penalties they will face if they fail to make child support payments on time.

Oh and toss in a mandatory ultrasound prostate exam while Doctors would be forced to recite a mandated speech about potential cancer coming from Viagra and Cialis…

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allegro  May 9, 2019 • 9:54:18pm

But wait! There’s more!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 9, 2019 • 9:55:39pm

re: #32 allegro

Bottom line—Women need to get the hell out of Alabama, Georgia and Ohio…

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Hecuba's daughter  May 9, 2019 • 10:04:27pm

re: #33 Joe Bacon 🌹

Bottom line—Women need to get the hell out of Alabama, Georgia and Ohio…

It might be effective if major corporations announce they are leaving those states as long as this legislation is in effect; but I doubt that any will take this step. After all, senior executives are free to travel to other states to take advantage of other laws. These states have a host of other issues including voter disenfranchisement, which directly led to the Georgia bill, which would never have seen the light of day under a Stacey Abrams governorship.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 9, 2019 • 10:05:06pm

re: #33 Joe Bacon 🌹

Bottom line—Women need to get the hell out of Alabama, Georgia and Ohio…

This is their way of keeping themselves in the dark ages, because no business or convention will ever move there again.

Well, maybe the NRA. And the Repugs.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 9, 2019 • 10:07:17pm

re: #34 Hecuba’s daughter

It might be effective if major corporations announce they are leaving those states as long as this legislation is in effect; but I doubt that any will take this step. After all, senior executives are free to travel to other states to take advantage of other laws. These states have a host of other issues including voter disenfranchisement, which directly led to the Georgia bill, which would never have seen the light of day under a Stacey Abrams governorship.

On the other hand… would you accept a job in one of those states? If your husband did, would you go with him? Corporations located there might find themselves with a serious worker shortage.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 9, 2019 • 10:12:54pm

re: #36 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

On the other hand… would you accept a job in one of those states? If your husband did, would you go with him? Corporations located there might find themselves with a serious worker shortage.

I am thinking of people who are already living and working in those states. Hopefully, this legislation discourages companies from relocating there. Georgia certainly has developed real problems. Downthread, there was discussion of the Delta campaign to harm unions — Atlanta seems to be sinking into the swamp.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 9, 2019 • 10:25:15pm
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Chrysicat  May 9, 2019 • 10:32:07pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 9, 2019 • 10:42:02pm

This is very interesting:
Newly discovered 1959 letter: Nixon feared American racism would drive world into the arms of the Russians

The 1959 letter was written on official Office of the Vice President stationary and was addressed to Mrs. M. S. Richardson in La Grange, North Carolina on the subject of school integration.

In the letter, Nixon made the case that domestic American racism could help the Russians win the Cold War.

“I am deeply concerned with the impact of racial division in terms of world power,” Nixon wrote. “Most of the people of the world belong to the colored races. They deeply resent any slurs based on race.”
“If we of the United States are considered racists, then we may lose to the Communist camp hundreds of millions of potential friends and allies,” Nixon explained. “That would leave us disastrously isolated in a hostile world.”
*snip*
Between his unsuccessful 1960 presidential campaign and his successful 1968 presidential campaign, Richard Nixon famously embraced the “Southern Strategy” of exploiting racial divisions for reasons of political expediency.
Last year, the New Republic published a piece explaining how decades of Republicans embracing a Southern Strategy led to Donald Trump’s domination of GOP primaries.

As I’ve mentioned before, the late unlamented Phyllis Schlafly first came to national prominence when she led a conservative “revolt” against the civil rights plank of the Republican platform at the 1960 GOP convention. Nixon learned the lesson and sold out his own principles with the Southern Strategy in 1968. That takes us in a direct line to the election of Trump in 2016.

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goddamnedfrank  May 9, 2019 • 10:47:02pm

re: #32 allegro

But wait! There’s more!

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The actual article says the consequence only occurs if the accused rapist is “proven innocent,” not “found not guilty.” That’s an important legal distinction since findings of innocence by a court are exceedingly rare. The obvious problem with what they’re doing here is that they’re singling out one type of false accusation (which disproportionately affects men because virtually all rapists are men) for extra criminal sanction, when making a false police report is already a crime and when those falsely accused can always seek their remedy via a civil defamation lawsuit. So, basically, this is just more patriarchal DARVO.

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sagehen  May 9, 2019 • 10:49:18pm

re: #40 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This is very interesting:
Newly discovered 1959 letter: Nixon feared American racism would drive world into the arms of the Russians

That was one of his arguments in the 1960 election:

1960 - Nixon on Civil Rights

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Anymouse 🌹  May 9, 2019 • 10:56:28pm

re: #33 Joe Bacon 🌹

Bottom line—Women need to get the hell out of Alabama, Georgia and Ohio…

This goes back to intersectionality in feminism (at least as I understand it).

Getting the hell out of Alabama, Georgia, or Ohio means the wealthy and middle-class might be able to do that, leaving poor women to the tender mercies of Movement Conservative. They are an acceptable sacrifice to anyone who argues “get out of Alabama.”

It’s the same argument liberals make about people should leave “flyover states.” Yanno, I don’t have that kind of money; my wife and I are an acceptable sacrifice.

And Movement Conservatism isn’t trying to make safe abortion unlawful in some states; they are trying to make it unlawful in the whole country. It won’t do you any good to move to Massachusetts or Colorado if it is suddenly illegal nationwide.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 9, 2019 • 10:59:59pm

Mammogram update behind hide bar if you’re bored by this sort of thing:

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 9, 2019 • 11:05:30pm

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹

This goes back to intersectionality in feminism (at least as I understand it).

Getting the hell out of Alabama, Georgia, or Ohio means the wealthy and middle-class might be able to do that, leaving poor women to the tender mercies of Movement Conservative. They are an acceptable sacrifice to anyone who argues “get out of Alabama.”

It’s the same argument liberals make about people should leave “flyover states.” Yanno, I don’t have that kind of money; my wife and I are an acceptable sacrifice.

And Movement Conservatism isn’t trying to make safe abortion unlawful in some states; they are trying to make it unlawful in the whole country. It won’t do you any good to move to Massachusetts or Colorado if it is suddenly illegal nationwide.

I can afford to move and I think about moving out of Texas practically every day. I haven’t, and probably won’t, for a number of reasons:

-Inertia, frankly. I have lived in all kinds of places but I am about to turn 70 and I am not sure I have the energy, either physically or psychologically, to adjust to a new environment.
-I am temperamentally averse to giving up a fight and we are locked in mortal combat with the RWNJs here.
-Texas will probably turn blue within my lifetime. It will certainly turn blue, the uncertainty is the remaining time I have. I might fall over dead tomorrow or I might live another 30 years. We shall see.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 9, 2019 • 11:35:03pm

re: #45 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I can afford to move and I think about moving out of Texas practically every day. I haven’t, and probably won’t, for a number of reasons:

-Inertia, frankly. I have lived in all kinds of places but I am about to turn 70 and I am not sure I have the energy, either physically or psychologically, to adjust to a new environment.
-I am temperamentally averse to giving up a fight and we are locked in mortal combat with the RWNJs here.
-Texas will probably turn blue within my lifetime. It will certainly turn blue, the uncertainty is the remaining time I have. I might fall over dead tomorrow or I might live another 30 years. We shall see.

Texas will probably turn blue before Nebraska does, but our largest cities are more liberal than the rest of the state.

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goddamnedfrank  May 9, 2019 • 11:54:41pm

Aquarium update: My solution to the protein skimmer coming on too soon after a power outage was to plug it into one of this. It’s a wireless AC outlet & switch combo. The switch is a simple but clever piezo-electric design (no batteries) and when rocked it just spits out an RF code that signals the the outlet to change from one state to the other. I already had it installed as a way to lock out the sump cabinet ventilation fan when I didn’t want the timer switching it on, and noticed that it always came up in the off position when first plugged in or after an outage. So I just added a two way splitter and am using it to also keep the protein skimmer from immediately powering on and running wild after an outage when the sump water level is too high.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2019 • 12:20:19am

re: #32 allegro

But wait! There’s more!

so the Alabama abortion criminalization bill has an extra tacked on to the end of it wherein, if a woman reports being raped and they find the person she accused not guilty, SHE goes to jail, because it’s declared a false rape accusation

And then they will add a provision that a woman’s testimony is worth only half of a man’s (and a black person’s testimony 3/5 of a white’s)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2019 • 12:22:47am

re: #45 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I can afford to move and I think about moving out of Texas practically every day. I haven’t, and probably won’t, for a number of reasons:

A lot of people who want to move just cannot for financial reasons. A lot of other people might be dissatisfied with aspects of their state/region, but see other advantages that balance them out.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 10, 2019 • 12:42:52am

re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A lot of people who want to move just cannot for financial reasons. A lot of other people might be dissatisfied with aspects of their state/region, but see other advantages that balance them out.

The two most valuable things we own are our house and car (both free from debt).

Together, they cost far less than many people pay for a car or a house.

All the money we could get from both would not make a downpayment somewhere else.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2019 • 1:36:26am

re: #50 Anymouse 🌹

The two most valuable things we own are our house and car (both free from debt).

Together, they cost far less than many people pay for a car or a house.

All the money we could get from both would not make a downpayment somewhere else.

Much my situation here, the rent I pay for a large three-and-a-half-room apartment would not do for a single room in the big city.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 10, 2019 • 1:49:01am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Much my situation here, the rent I pay for a large three-and-a-half-room apartment would not do for a single room in the big city.

My sister is one of those who thinks I should move to “liberal California” rather than live where I do (which she calls “off the grid”).

I can’t afford a parking space in Burbank, let alone even an apartment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2019 • 2:13:00am

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹

My sister is one of those who thinks I should move to “liberal California” rather than live where I do (which she calls “off the grid”).

I can’t afford a parking space in Burbank, let alone even an apartment.

For me it was more of a personal lifestyle issue; moving to the big city (Frankfurt/Mainz metro area) would bring me closer to friends, jobs and the music scene, but I kinda like it here out on the Rhine in a village of 680 souls, for reasons that go beyond the cheap rent.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 10, 2019 • 2:17:24am

re: #53 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

For me it was more of a personal lifestyle issue; moving to the big city (Frankfurt/Mainz metro area) would bring me closer to friends, jobs and the music scene, but I kinda like it here out on the Rhine in a village of 680 souls, for reasons that go beyond the cheap rent.

Wow, you live in the big city then. /s

Cheap housing is not my only reason for living in a rural area, but it’s close to the top of the list.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2019 • 2:18:35am

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹

Wow, you live in the big city then. /s

Cheap housing is not my only reason for living in a rural area, but it’s close to the top of the list.

I did move to the big city, our last village had a population of 180

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Anymouse 🌹  May 10, 2019 • 2:23:30am

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I did move to the big city, our last village had a population of 180

Still bigger than mine.

I like things available in large cities, but the cost of living in them is just too high. (The largest cities I’ve lived in were from being stationed in them in the Navy: Virginia Beach - which is a lot larger now than when I lived there, and Jacksonville Beach.)

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Anymouse 🌹  May 10, 2019 • 2:28:54am

I don’t want to live with moonbats or wingnuts any more.

Product Promises to Detox Ex-Boyfriends’ Imprint Left on the Womb (Goes to Without a Crystal Ball at Patheos, an atheist blogger)

A vaginal product called the Goddess Vaginal Detox Pearl promises to help cleanse women’s wombs of their past sexual partners. The product sold online uses a combination of herbs and supplements wrapped into a tiny ball. Women are encouraged to shove the pearl up their vagina and pray away their ex’s bad energy.

According to an instructional video on the Goddess Detox website, the “CEO” Vanessa White instructs women on how to use the product.

White, who also goes by “Olanikeeosi” shills detox pearls that contain a variety of herbs and supplements. Some of the ingredients include Cnidium, Stemona, Motherwort, Angelica, and Rhizoma. She claims these herbs will reduce menstrual cramps, increase libido, kill parasites, remove toxins, and help women ‘Detox their Ex.”

(more)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2019 • 2:30:21am

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t want to live with moonbats or wingnuts any more.

Product Promises to Detox Ex-Boyfriends’ Imprint Left on the Womb (Goes to Without a Crystal Ball at Patheos, an atheist blogger)

(more)

coming soon; the Angel Bidet with the special purifying nozzle

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Teukka  May 10, 2019 • 2:32:58am

So, I was out a bit earlier, and happened upon this gull in the harbor… No fucks given as I took a pic at about a yards distance.

Lesser black-backed gull Larus fuscus
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Anymouse 🌹  May 10, 2019 • 2:38:02am

re: #59 Teukka

So, I was out a bit earlier, and happened upon this gull in the harbor… No fucks given as I took a pic at about a yards distance.

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The gull looks like its about to take your camera away from you if you don’t get it out of its face.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 10, 2019 • 2:50:45am

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹

I had a student by that name, so I was worried. Not the same woman, to my great relief.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 10, 2019 • 2:51:53am

re: #60 Anymouse 🌹

The gull looks like its about to take your camera away from you if you don’t get it out of its face.

Don’t fusc around with Larus fuscus.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 10, 2019 • 3:03:35am

Off to guide more Americans around Bernkastel-Kues on the Moselle.

The local scenery is another major reason I still live around here

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Teukka  May 10, 2019 • 3:15:32am

re: #60 Anymouse 🌹

The gull looks like its about to take your camera away from you if you don’t get it out of its face.

I know. Hence why no closer than that 1 yd-ish. Also, these are not small boids. Not that menacing apart from size and giving no fucks.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 10, 2019 • 3:22:45am

I had Home Economics in high school. I also had a mother and grandmother who taught me things like sewing on a button. Then wingnuts got hold of Michigan’s education system and bye-bye Home Economics.

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Patricia Kayden  May 10, 2019 • 3:53:08am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 10, 2019 • 3:57:14am

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹

I stopped paying attention when I saw the course of the complaints: The Daily Caller.

Stories like those are pointless. Millennials also don’t know how to check vacuum tubes or adjust the points in a distributor. Somehow, old farts believe these long-lost skills of theirs make them superior to the young’uns.

Meh.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 10, 2019 • 3:58:27am

re: #66 Patricia Kayden

Speaking of Europe and the UK, are they still getting divorced, or have they found a marriage counselor to help patch things up?

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Anymouse 🌹  May 10, 2019 • 4:02:11am

re: #66 Patricia Kayden

European youth fascist movement doesn’t consider itself fascist.

Why is it racists hate to be called racists, fascists hate to be called fascists, &c? Is it something inside that tell them that is wrong and they have to deny it?

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Anymouse 🌹  May 10, 2019 • 4:03:52am

re: #67 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I stopped paying attention when I saw the course of the complaints: The Daily Caller.

Stories like those are pointless. Millennials also don’t know how to check vacuum tubes or adjust the points in a distributor. Somehow, old farts believe these long-lost skills of theirs make them superior to the young’uns.

Meh.

Daily Caller is getting dragged on that thread, with comments like “Next time your printer doesn’t work I’ll be happy to come over and charge you $100 to refill your paper tray.”

The dragging is what makes that thread good.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 4:10:11am

re: #67 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I stopped paying attention when I saw the course of the complaints: The Daily Caller.

Stories like those are pointless. Millennials also don’t know how to check vacuum tubes or adjust the points in a distributor. Somehow, old farts believe these long-lost skills of theirs make them superior to the young’uns.

Meh.

We also don’t know how to use a telegraph.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 4:11:07am

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹

European youth fascist movement doesn’t consider itself fascist.

Why is it racists hate to be called racists, fascists hate to be called fascists, &c? Is it something inside that tell them that is wrong and they have to deny it?

I suspect deep down they know they’re wrong.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  May 10, 2019 • 4:11:13am

re: #28 KGxvi

I think it’s a combination of nationalism, oligarchy, and his reactionary stance on most social issues. Basically, they see him as a fellow traveler.

The problem with these types of nationalist fellow travelers is at some point their interests overlap and a big war results and many people get killed.

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steve_davis  May 10, 2019 • 4:13:44am

re: #18 Hecuba’s daughter

She’s doing a classic DARVO. The Cheney family has no ethics and, as a reminder, Cheney actually did shoot someone and the victim apologized. I do remain puzzled on why all these formerly staunch anti-Communists have fallen in love with Putin. Is it because Putin abandoned Communism and joined Oligarchs Intl?

re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A lot of people who want to move just cannot for financial reasons. A lot of other people might be dissatisfied with aspects of their state/region, but see other advantages that balance them out.

yeah. I detest South Carolina, but the cost of living is lower than it is in rural Ecuador, so with what I make, it’s tolerable.

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steve_davis  May 10, 2019 • 4:15:32am

re: #59 Teukka

So, I was out a bit earlier, and happened upon this gull in the harbor… No fucks given as I took a pic at about a yards distance.

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Apparently was in the process of taking a shit and just couldn’t be bothered with you.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 10, 2019 • 4:17:55am

re: #71 HappyWarrior

We also don’t know how to use a telegraph.

To be fair, I’m a ham radio operator so I can use Morse code.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 4:19:54am

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹

To be fair, I’m a ham radio operator so I can use Morse code.

Yeah but you’re not a Millennial. And I am.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 4:27:52am

re: #73 Rocky-in-Connecticut

The problem with these types of nationalist fellow travelers is at some point their interests overlap and a big war results and many people get killed.

Sounds like the two World Wars to me.Trump has talked about how nationalism is a good thing. It’s not.

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Teukka  May 10, 2019 • 4:28:04am

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹

To be fair, I’m a ham radio operator so I can use Morse code.

I’m a Techie, so so never got around to playing with keys and paddles. Maybe my signal to invest in such an implement and how to use it, and upgrade my license.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 10, 2019 • 4:30:46am

re: #67 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Millennials also don’t know how to check vacuum tubes or adjust the points in a distributor.

Ah, the old days of using a dwell-tachometer and strobe gun back on my first car (AMC Hornet)

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Anymouse 🌹  May 10, 2019 • 4:33:42am

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Yeah but you’re not a Millennial. And I am.

You need a ham license. /s

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 4:36:17am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹

You need a ham license. /s

I also need to learn how to whale. Anyhow the whole Millennials are too stupid crap really gets old.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  May 10, 2019 • 4:39:49am

re: #80 Eric The Fruit Bat

Ah, the old days of using a dwell-tachometer and strobe gun back on my first car (AMC Hornet)

You Tube makes learning things easy. I rebuilt a vintage Porsche 911 engine based off a rebuild manual and You Tube videos. Also learned to tune dwell and dist advance based off You Tube.

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Dr Lizardo  May 10, 2019 • 4:53:17am

re: #78 HappyWarrior

Sounds like the two World Wars to me.Trump has talked about how nationalism is a good thing. It’s not.

Nationalism lead to the destruction of vast swathes of Europe in the Twentieth Century. Hell, Berlin still hasn’t recovered to its pre-WW2 population level and that war has been over for 75 years.

FFS, they’re still finding WW1 ordnance in parts of France and Belgium and there’s still part of the Verdun battlefield that’s closed off - now over a century since the guns of 1918 fell silent.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 4:57:12am

re: #84 Dr Lizardo

Nationalism lead to the destruction of vast swathes of Europe in the Twentieth Century. Hell, Berlin still hasn’t recovered to its pre-WW2 population level and that war has been over for 75 years.

FFS, they’re still finding WW1 ordnance in parts of France and Belgium and there’s still part of the Verdun battlefield that’s closed off - now over a century since the guns of 1918 fell silent.

Yep and Trump is so stupid that he doesn’t get that at all.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 10, 2019 • 5:00:43am

re: #85 HappyWarrior

Yep and Trump is so stupid that he doesn’t get that at all.

Nationalism is an age-old concept that was dying out as the 20th century came to close. The racists and fascists cling to it like a security blanket, because otherwise they have to admit their worldviews also belong in the dustbin. Trump is very much a child of the 20th century who can’t embrace the future.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 10, 2019 • 5:01:29am

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹

To be fair, I’m a ham radio operator so I can use Morse code.

Sadly, Google Translate doesn’t have a English to Morse translator.

This computer language reminds me of Morse Code.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 5:01:45am

Our country loves to call the French cowards. I would love to see how Americans would feel about war if we had two world wars in our backyards.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 5:02:26am

re: #86 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Nationalism is an age-old concept that was dying out as the 20th century came to close. The racists and fascists cling to it like a security blanket, because otherwise they have to admit their worldviews also belong in the dustbin. Trump is very much a child of the 20th century who can’t embrace the future.

Yeah unfortunately it’s become mainstreamed again.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 10, 2019 • 5:03:18am

re: #82 HappyWarrior

I also need to learn how to whale. Anyhow the whole Millennials are too stupid crap really gets old.

Yes it is stupid. In ancient days when I was young, there were things I didn’t know how to do.

Just because a millenial doesn’t know how to use an obsolete bit of technology doesn’t make them stupid.

You can flip it: I have no clue what to do with a smartphone other than use it as an expensive paperweight.

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Teukka  May 10, 2019 • 5:03:34am

re: #84 Dr Lizardo

Nationalism lead to the destruction of vast swathes of Europe in the Twentieth Century. Hell, Berlin still hasn’t recovered to its pre-WW2 population level and that war has been over for 75 years.

FFS, they’re still finding WW1 ordnance in parts of France and Belgium and there’s still part of the Verdun battlefield that’s closed off - now over a century since the guns of 1918 fell silent.

Us Finns still find ordnance the Germans left behind when we ran them out in 1944 (occasionally booby-trapped), as well as the occasional dud the Soviets dropped during the Winter and Continuation War. It was just a couple of years ago a person was killed and another critically injured after having found a grenade.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 5:04:49am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹

Yes it is stupid. In ancient days when I was young, there were things I didn’t know how to do.

Just because a millenial doesn’t know how to use an obsolete bit of technology doesn’t make them stupid.

You can flip it: I have no clue what to do with a smartphone other than use it as an expensive paperweight.

Exactly.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 10, 2019 • 5:05:50am

re: #91 Teukka

Us Finns still find ordnance the Germans left behind when we ran them out in 1944 (occasionally booby-trapped), as well as the occasional dud the Soviets dropped during the Winter and Continuation War. It was just a couple of years ago a person was killed and another critically injured after having found a grenade.

There’s still landmines all over Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia from the Vietnam War. Some of the former soldiers have volunteered to locate and disarm them, but it’s a slow process.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 5:06:38am

re: #91 Teukka

Us Finns still find ordnance the Germans left behind when we ran them out in 1944 (occasionally booby-trapped), as well as the occasional dud the Soviets dropped during the Winter and Continuation War. It was just a couple of years ago a person was killed and another critically injured after having found a grenade.

The World Wars in our history books. The world wars are in your lives. The Slovak village I stayed in last year was nearly burned at the end of the war as the Nazis retreated West I believe.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 5:08:19am

re: #93 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

There’s still landmines all over Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia from the Vietnam War. Some of the former soldiers have volunteered to locate and disarm them, but it’s a slow process.

We as Americans are fortunate that war hasn’t been on our soil in years. Yeah 9/11 I know but the daily grind of a war? Not in a long time. And that’s good for obvious reasons but it also I think impacts our international outlook.

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Targetpractice  May 10, 2019 • 5:15:53am

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹

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Boomers: “These youngin’s are so dumb that they can’t sew a button or change a spark plug! How are they gonna get through life without knowing these basic skills?!”

Also Boomers: “How am I supposed to make a call on this ‘smartphone’?”

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jeffreyw  May 10, 2019 • 5:16:02am

Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 5:17:50am

re: #96 Targetpractice

Boomers: “These youngin’s are so dumb that they can’t sew a button or change a spark plug! How are they gonna get through life without knowing these basic skills?!”

Also Boomers: “How am I supposed to make a call on this ‘smartphone’?”

I see Boomers and even Gen Xers crap on Millennials for not knowing cursive. I learned cursive. It’s not as useful as typing is.

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Targetpractice  May 10, 2019 • 5:19:04am

re: #98 HappyWarrior

I see Boomers and even Gen Xers crap on Millennials for not knowing cursive. I learned cursive. It’s not as useful as typing is.

I know cursive because I grew up in a small town at the tail-end of that teaching. I have people comment all the time on how nice my handwriting looks.

At the same time, I have plenty of horror stories about trying to take notes in college that were legible.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 5:24:58am

re: #99 Targetpractice

I know cursive because I grew up in a small town at the tail-end of that teaching. I have people comment all the time on how nice my handwriting looks.

At the same time, I have plenty of horror stories about trying to take notes in college that were legible.

We had it in Fairfax County. It was a pain tbh. I get why they taught it but Boomers, Silents, & Gen Xers are constantly whining about how Millennials can’t do certain things or that we do certain things.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2019 • 5:25:23am

moron has no idea what he’s talking about

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 10, 2019 • 5:29:19am

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron has no idea what he’s talking about

[Embedded content]The average 401(k) balance has SOARED since the bottom of the market - 466%. Wow!

How much of this was during Obama’s 8 years? I fucking hate this asshole. He term can’t be over soon enough.

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Belafon  May 10, 2019 • 5:30:01am

I, as someone who thinks Sanders should be gone, thinks it’s still to early to put a lot of stock in statements like this considering he’s polling fairly well, but:

Edit: The article does give data to the argument that not all of them will be around by the first debate.

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Teukka  May 10, 2019 • 5:37:29am
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Anymouse 🌹  May 10, 2019 • 5:38:16am

re: #98 HappyWarrior

I see Boomers and even Gen Xers crap on Millennials for not knowing cursive. I learned cursive. It’s not as useful as typing is.

That’s why I own a typewriter.

People older than me say my cursive writing is “like a girl’s.” They’ve never seen my mother’s or sister’s.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 5:49:27am

re: #103 Belafon

I, as someone who thinks Sanders should be gone, thinks it’s still to early to put a lot of stock in statements like this considering he’s polling fairly well, but:

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Edit: The article does give data to the argument that not all of them will be around by the first debate.

Well I think most people know how they feel about him now. His appeal imo is very limited.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 5:50:19am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

That’s why I own a typewriter.

People older than me say my cursive writing is “like a girl’s.” They’ve never seen my mother’s or sister’s.

Mine is awful. But that’s part of my Aspergers.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 10, 2019 • 5:51:49am

re: #106 HappyWarrior

Well I think most people know how they feel about him now. His appeal imo is very limited.

So was Trump’s — at least initially. But when you have too many candidates, the worst can emerge triumphant when the sane vote is fragmented.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 5:55:20am

re: #108 Hecuba’s daughter

So was Trump’s — at least initially. But when you have too many candidates, the worst can emerge triumphant when the sane vote is fragmented.

I don’t rule him out but Dem base voters are more moderate than GOP voters. But yeah he could emerge in a crowded primary. I just think it’s unlikeky.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 5:56:36am

It’s going to come down to Iowa and New Hampshire for him. He’s not going to win South Carolina and Nevada.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 10, 2019 • 5:58:03am

re: #108 Hecuba’s daughter

So was Trump’s — at least initially. But when you have too many candidates, the worst can emerge triumphant when the sane vote is fragmented.

I’m not sure there *were* any sane votes among the Republicans back then. Do you remember the other candidates vying for the nomination?

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Belafon  May 10, 2019 • 5:59:13am

re: #106 HappyWarrior

Well I think most people know how they feel about him now. His appeal imo is very limited.

Since he’s not the new candidate, a lot of people have their opinions about him. That does not translate into “won’t vote for him if he’s the nominee” though. At the same time, I think the article and it’s timing are a bit suspicious. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an article about that topic before. And for Bernie, he’s been kind of dropping out of the news. I’ve seen more articles about Harris and Warren and more diaries about them at DK. A small part of me thinks that this was timed to get his support angry again at the party not supporting him.

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Barefoot Grin  May 10, 2019 • 5:59:13am

I feel like the trade wars and tariffs are less about trade than try to create another global depression as predicate for creating a fascist America. [taking off conspiracy hat for the rest of the day, I promise.]

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DangerMan  May 10, 2019 • 6:01:59am

re: #15 gocart mozart

How did usury stop being a sin and become respectable finance? - Alex Mayyasi | Aeon Essays
Moneylending has been taboo for most of human history. So how did usury stop being a sin and become respectable finance?

when ‘they’ realized how much profit was in it

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Hecuba's daughter  May 10, 2019 • 6:02:36am

re: #111 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I’m not sure there *were* any sane votes among the Republicans back then. Do you remember the other candidates vying for the nomination?

Back then, Lindsey Graham was sane. You also had George Pataki, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie and Marco Rubio (Not necessarily great or competent people — but they were sane).

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 6:03:34am

re: #111 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I’m not sure there *were* any sane votes among the Republicans back then. Do you remember the other candidates vying for the nomination?

Correct. Cruz and Rubio weren’t exactly moderates. Neither was Kasich. He may not foam at the mouth but Kasich is still quite conservative.

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Belafon  May 10, 2019 • 6:03:57am

re: #114 DangerMan

when ‘they’ realized how much profit was in it

It’s the best way to separate the wealthy from the rubes.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 6:04:46am

re: #115 Hecuba’s daughter

Back then, Lindsey Graham was sane. You also had George Pataki, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie and Marco Rubio (Not necessarily great or competent people — but they were sane).

And how much of an impact did they have on the primary? Sans Rubio. They were all pretty done quickly. Cruz was Trump’s main competition.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 10, 2019 • 6:06:29am

re: #113 Barefoot Grin

I feel like the trade wars and tariffs are less about trade than try to create another global depression as predicate for creating a fascist America. [taking off conspiracy hat for the rest of the day, I promise.]

I think it reflects Trump’s total ignorance about trade. He adheres to a fantasy that he’s developed over the years. It’s also possible that Putin has been feeding him these ideas in an effort to burn down the rest of the world. After all, the only way to make Russia great is to destroy everyone else.

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Rightwingconspirator  May 10, 2019 • 6:07:49am

Diabolical.

Secret Hellfire Missile With Sword-Like Blades Made Mysterious Strike On Terror Leader In Syria
thedrive.com
he U.S. military, as well as the Central Intelligence Agency, are reportedly using a specialized version of the ubiquitous Hellfire missile that swaps out the explosive warhead for inert ballast and an array of sword-like blades that pop out right before it impacts its target

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 6:07:51am

re: #112 Belafon

Since he’s not the new candidate, a lot of people have their opinions about him. That does not translate into “won’t vote for him if he’s the nominee” though. At the same time, thought, I think the article and it’s timing are a bit suspicious. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an article about that topic before. And for Bernie, he’s been kind of dropping out of the news. I’ve seen more articles about Harris and Warren and more diaries about them at DK. A small part of me thinks that this was times to get his support angry again at the party not supporting him.

Right. I think it just shows you the disadvantage he places himself at by running against Obama. He doesn’t appreciate that Obama is liked and admired by Dem primary voters. That’s helping Biden. Now my hope is one of the others emerges with the argument that Obama was great but new ideas and perspectives are needed. And that’s why I like Harris, O’Rourke, Castro, Warren, Gillibrand, & Booker.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 6:08:50am

re: #113 Barefoot Grin

I feel like the trade wars and tariffs are less about trade than try to create another global depression as predicate for creating a fascist America. [taking off conspiracy hat for the rest of the day, I promise.]

I dunno but this is another reason I don’t like Bernie. He doesn’t understand how important trade is to fostering international relations.

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Belafon  May 10, 2019 • 6:09:05am

re: #113 Barefoot Grin

I feel like the trade wars and tariffs are less about trade than try to create another global depression as predicate for creating a fascist America. [taking off conspiracy hat for the rest of the day, I promise.]

Has someone explained 2008 and 1929 to him? Neither of those led to Republican dominance.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 10, 2019 • 6:09:37am

re: #118 HappyWarrior

And how much of an impact did they have on the primary? Sans Rubio. They were all pretty done quickly. Cruz was Trump’s main competition.

We don’t have a clue about what’s going to happen with the Democrats either. At this point in 2015, the assumption was that Jeb was going to be crowned, but he vanished very quickly when 2016 started.

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DangerMan  May 10, 2019 • 6:11:44am

re: #68 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Speaking of Europe and the UK, are they still getting divorced, or have they found a marriage counselor to help patch things up?

i think right now they’re in separate bedrooms

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 6:12:28am

re: #124 Hecuba’s daughter

We don’t have a clue about what’s going to happen with the Democrats either. At this point in 2015, the assumption was that Jeb was going to be crowned, but he vanished very quickly when 2016 started.

No we don’t. I just think comparing Sanders to Trump is wrong because there are substantial groups that are adamantly opposed to Bernie and I think Trump has shown why Bernie would be bad.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 6:18:13am

So though regarding Bernie and you can be damn sure his opponents will bring this up but he has a man on his staff that was convicted of embezzling from a union. The man in question is Latino. Weaver, Bernie’s longtime guy was asked about it and he accused the source the reported it of perpetuating systematic racism. I get that the guy served his time. But embezzling from a union? A lot tells me about how someone will govern by who they surround themselves with. It honestly is why Hillary’s 2008 campaign appealed to me less than Obama in 2008 and why HRC eight years later appealed to me more than Bernie and Trump obviously.

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Belafon  May 10, 2019 • 6:19:23am

re: #124 Hecuba’s daughter

We don’t have a clue about what’s going to happen with the Democrats either. At this point in 2015, the assumption was that Jeb was going to be crowned, but he vanished very quickly when 2016 started.

It’s also hard to compare the Democrats and Republicans becuase we allocate delegates differently. Winner-take-all hurt their non-Trump candidates.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 6:21:50am

re: #128 Belafon

It’s also hard to compare the Democrats and Republicans becuase we allocate delegates differently. Winner-take-all hurt their non-Trump candidates.

And our bases are different. I would also disagree that everyone thought Jeb was going to be crowned. Jeb hadn’t been on a ballot in 14 years. He was a nominal favorite I concede but I definitely thought it was possible that someone else like Cruz could emerge. I admit I didn’t see Trump but I definitely thought it was within the realm of possibility that they would nominate someone more further to the right. It’s going to depend how the debates go. I’m hoping that’s where the candidates I like will emerge.

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Belafon  May 10, 2019 • 6:23:10am

re: #127 HappyWarrior

Weaver, Bernie’s longtime guy was asked about it and he accused the source the reported it of perpetuating systematic racism.

“So, you’re saying, that if he was a white guy, what, he wouldn’t have been convicted?”

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lizardofid  May 10, 2019 • 6:23:52am

re: #119 Hecuba’s daughter

I think it reflects Trump’s total ignorance about trade. He adheres to a fantasy that he’s developed over the years. It’s also possible that Putin has been feeding him these ideas in an effort to burn down the rest of the world. After all, the only way to make Russia great is to destroy everyone else.

Yes, combined with the toxic combination of Steve Bannon and Peter (Death by China) Navarro.

Oh, and good morning!

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Dave In Austin  May 10, 2019 • 6:24:18am

So any bets that it could be a 50 Bleat, I mean tweet day?

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Hecuba's daughter  May 10, 2019 • 6:24:32am

re: #126 HappyWarrior

No we don’t. I just think comparing Sanders to Trump is wrong because there are substantial groups that are adamantly opposed to Bernie and I think Trump has shown why Bernie would be bad.

Democratic voters are sane but the Bernie cult is as fanatic and devoted as the Trump cult. Bernie could win by carrying 15% of the voters and driving the rest out.

But maybe not. I had lunch yesterday with a non-political friend who had a couple comments about 2020 — she cannot understand how intelligent people support Trump (and there are many in her husband’s family) and she really likes Mayor Pete.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 6:24:54am

re: #130 Belafon

“So, you’re saying, that if he was a white guy, what, he wouldn’t have been convicted?”

Ha!

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Belafon  May 10, 2019 • 6:26:45am

re: #133 Hecuba’s daughter

Democratic voters are same but the Bernie cult is as fanatic and devoted as the Trump cult. Bernie could win by carrying 15% of the voters and driving the rest out.

But maybe not. I had lunch yesterday with a non-political friend who had a couple comments about 2020 — she cannot understand how intelligent people support Trump (and there are many in her husband’s family) and she really likes Mayor Pete.

Bernie won’t win by carrying 15% of the vote unless all 20+ candidates stay in throughout the entire nomination process. If he wins 15% of Iowa, he only gets a fraction of the candidates. And that will really hurt him when the states get larger than Iowa and New Hampshire.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 6:27:04am

re: #133 Hecuba’s daughter

Democratic voters are same but the Bernie cult is as fanatic and devoted as the Trump cult. Bernie could win by carrying 15% of the voters and driving the rest out.

But maybe not. I had lunch yesterday with a non-political friend who had a couple comments about 2020 — she cannot understand how intelligent people support Trump (and there are many in her husband’s family) and she really likes Mayor Pete.

I just think you are overestimating his appeal. If he doesn’t win Iowa and New Hampshire. He’s finished. He won’t win Nevada and he’s not winning South Carolina. Plus you have more states that have switched from caucuses to primaries, so that hurts him too. Plus I think more people are seeing his weaknesses. Look at this way, I know plenty of people who supported him last time that want someone else. I don’t know anyone who supported Clinton that now want him. We’re not going to have the same cast of characters as we enter the primaries.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 6:27:58am

re: #135 Belafon

Bernie won’t win by carrying 15% of the vote unless all 20+ candidates stay in throughout the entire nomination process. If he wins 15% of Iowa, he only gets a fraction of the candidates. And that will really hurt him when the states get larger than Iowa and New Hampshire.

Exactly. Also the diversity of the states too. Bernie would have more luck in a Republican primary TBH structurally speaking.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 10, 2019 • 6:30:07am

re: #136 HappyWarrior

I just think you are overestimating his appeal. If he doesn’t win Iowa and New Hampshire. He’s finished. He won’t win Nevada and he’s not winning South Carolina. Plus you have more states that have switched from caucuses to primaries, so that hurts him too. Plus I think more people are seeing his weaknesses. Look at this way, I know plenty of people who supported him last time that want someone else. I don’t know anyone who supported Clinton that now want him. We’re not going to have the same cast of characters as we enter the primaries.

Our state Democratic party chair was a Bernie supporter in the last caucus.

Since then, she proposed and got passed a primary system for the party. While our caucus system allowed for absentee balloting, I think the primary will work better.

Sanders also does not have the support here he did last time.

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DangerMan  May 10, 2019 • 6:30:39am

re: #106 HappyWarrior

Well I think most people know how they feel about him now. His appeal imo is very limited.

bernie has at least one ‘problem’ now that trump also has - a record

trumps is his first term

bernie’s is his last campaign
(it should have been his legislative record, but that’s another story)

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 6:31:26am

re: #138 Anymouse 🌹

Our state Democratic party chair was a Bernie supporter in the last caucus.

Since then, she proposed and got passed a primary system for the party. While our caucus system allowed for absentee balloting, I think the primary will work better.

Sanders also does not have the support here he did last time.

Primaries work a lot better because people want to vote and be done with it.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 6:32:39am

re: #139 DangerMan

bernie has at least one ‘problem’ now that trump also has - a record

trumps is his first term

bernie’s is his last campaign
(it should have been his legislative record, but that’s another story)

More opponents too. That I think may prove to hurt Biden too but Biden is doing well now since Biden is correctly not dumping on Obama. Biden’s politically smart enough to know that Obama had he run for a third term would have won.

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Decatur Deb  May 10, 2019 • 6:35:57am

re: #80 Eric The Fruit Bat

Ah, the old days of using a dwell-tachometer and strobe gun back on my first car (AMC Hornet)

I’m about to adjust the points, gap the plugs and adjust the valve lash on my 73 LR. Have to get it done before Wife takes off to visit the kids in the 2018 Mommyvan.

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lizardofid  May 10, 2019 • 6:36:20am

re: #132 Dave In Austin

So any bets that it could be a 50 Bleat, I mean tweet day?

Given the start he’s off to, if the tariffs get any posh back on Faux, that may be “betting the chalk”.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 10, 2019 • 6:38:54am

re: #142 Decatur Deb

I’m about to adjust the points, gap the plugs and adjust the valve lash on my 73 LR. Have to get it done before Wife takes off to visit the kids in the 2018 Mommyvan.

The most mechanically-inclined thing I ever learned how to do was adjusting points and dwell on my 1976 Vega. I don’t miss doing that.

My 2013 Smart requires a whole lot less maintenance than any car I owned previously. 10,000 mile oil changes, no points in a distributor, much less trouble.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 10, 2019 • 6:39:50am

re: #136 HappyWarrior

I just think you are overestimating his appeal. If he doesn’t win Iowa and New Hampshire. He’s finished. He won’t win Nevada and he’s not winning South Carolina. ….

I am probably being over influenced by FB friends who are Bernie fanatics. It’s easy to slip into the belief that they represent a larger portion of population than their real presence because they are so dogmatic and vocal. And, of course, there is the adjacent fear that they will sabotage any non-Bernie candidate who ultimately gets the nomination.

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Jay C  May 10, 2019 • 6:39:59am

re: #106 HappyWarrior

Well I think most people know how they feel about him now. His appeal imo is very limited.

Except IMO, the big problem with Bernie’s “overestimated” appeal, is that said overestimation is mainly exhibited online: where, as we saw in 2016, efforts by a relatively small group of *activists* (OK, also “malevolent hackers”, but the difference can be slight sometimes) can have an extremely multiplied effect. Enough to skew intraparty opinion in ways which might not reflect actual political reality. Especially as the hardcore Berners seem to be as much of an obsessive personality-cult as the Trumprrhoids.

ADD: and what HD said @ #145

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DangerMan  May 10, 2019 • 6:41:29am

cribbed this from the NYT comments on friedman’s op ed:

- We had a treaty with Iran that was supported by most Allies and Russia. This treaty had verification and the Iranians were complying. Trump broke the treaty not because it was a bad treaty, but because Obama made the deal. Now we are looking at a war with Iran.
- We had a treaty that pushed back on China. Called the Trans Pacific Partnership. Trump pulled out of the Treaty not because it is a bad treaty, but because Obama made the deal. Now we have a trade war that could destroy much of our Economy.
- We had healthcare that covered most Americans with affordable insurance. Trump has cut back the plan exposing many Americans to increased health risks and death sentences in some cases.
- We had a tax plan that was fair to most Americans. Trump added almost 2 trillion dollars to our national debt that gave breaks to the wealthy and took away deductions for owning real estate.
- We had admiration and respect from our Allies. Now America is seen as a pariah in Europe.
- The Economy was doing great before Trump. The tax cut is a temporary high that will end. Business cycles are real and the downside of the curve will arrive one day.

and people are over there supporting all this as proof of ‘best president evah’

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 6:42:04am

re: #145 Hecuba’s daughter

I am probably being over influenced by FB friends who are Bernie fanatics. It’s easy to slip into the belief that they represent a larger portion of population than their real presence because they are so dogmatic and vocal. And, of course, there is the adjacent fear that they will sabotage any non-Bernie candidate who ultimately gets the nomination.

Yeah I think you are. Don’t let confuse the most fanatical with what the average voter is. Not trying to be dismissive. Bernie could win a splintered primary but I really think it’ll come down to Biden and someone like Harris or Warren.

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DangerMan  May 10, 2019 • 6:43:12am

re: #145 Hecuba’s daughter

I am probably being over influenced by FB friends who are Bernie fanatics. It’s easy to slip into the belief that they represent a larger portion of population than their real presence because they are so dogmatic and vocal. And, of course, there is the adjacent fear that they will sabotage any non-Bernie candidate who ultimately gets the nomination.

if everyone would just vote for him, bernie would win //

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 6:43:13am

re: #146 Jay C

Except IMO, the big problem with Bernie’s “overestimated” appeal, is that said overestimation is mainly exhibited online: where, as we saw in 2016, efforts by a relatively small group of *activists* (OK, also “malevolent hackers”, but the difference can be slight sometimes) can have an extremely multiplied effect. Enough to skew intraparty opinion in ways which might not reflect actual political reality. Especially as the hardcore Berners seem to be as much of an obsessive personality-cult as the Trumprrhoids.

Right. Online can really make a big difference but I think he’s at a disadvantage this time since he has to run against other people. Other people who will call things out about him that the Clinton campaign may not have. Julian Castro already got him on his double standards on reparations.

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Belafon  May 10, 2019 • 6:43:27am

re: #147 DangerMan

cribbed this from the NYT comments on friedman’s op ed:

and people are over there supporting all this as proof of ‘best president evah’

Because all of those mean that the US isn’t on top, it’s just first among equals. And we can’t have that. Plus, none of those were keeping non-whites out of our country.

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DangerMan  May 10, 2019 • 6:46:15am

re: #150 HappyWarrior

Right. Online can really make a big difference but I think he’s at a disadvantage this time since he has to run against other people. Other people who will call things out about him that the Clinton campaign may not have. Julian Castro already got him on his double standards on reparations.

‘calling out’ bernie in 2016 had to come from clinton - the only other (real) candidate. and she tried real hard not to make it that kind of campaign

this time it can come from many places

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Teukka  May 10, 2019 • 6:47:39am

DAFUQ?

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 6:47:45am

re: #152 DangerMan

‘calling out’ bernie in 2016 had to come from clinton - the only other (real) candidate. and she tried real hard not to make it that kind of campaign

this time it can come from many places

Exactly. And you can be damn sure that he’s going to have to defend his record on guns more now.

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Belafon  May 10, 2019 • 6:50:35am

re: #146 Jay C

Except IMO, the big problem with Bernie’s “overestimated” appeal, is that said overestimation is mainly exhibited online: where, as we saw in 2016, efforts by a relatively small group of *activists* (OK, also “malevolent hackers”, but the difference can be slight sometimes) can have an extremely multiplied effect. Enough to skew intraparty opinion in ways which might not reflect actual political reality. Especially as the hardcore Berners seem to be as much of an obsessive personality-cult as the Trumprrhoids.

He’s got a few things going against him this time:
1. He can no longer be the “not Hillary” candidate. Everyone’s a not-Hillary candidate.
2. I think some of his lack of appeal is because he couldn’t influence his “supporters” in 2016.
3. 2020 isn’t 2016. We’re not coming off of a popular Democratic president. We have Trump.
4. The nominees he’s running aginst now offer way more than a binary choice. All of his strength (white male) are covered by other candidates, and lot’s of people have a candidate that is concerned about their issues, meaning they are more likely to participate than before.

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Decatur Deb  May 10, 2019 • 6:52:26am

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹

The most mechanically-inclined thing I ever learned how to do was adjusting points and dwell on my 1976 Vega. I don’t miss doing that.

My 2013 Smart requires a whole lot less maintenance than any car I owned previously. 10,000 mile oil changes, no points in a distributor, much less trouble.

I have to adjust the timing on it by ear, because civilian strobes can’t access the 24v EMP-proof ignition system. The spark plugs disassemble and are rebuildable, which is good because they are becoming rare.

(And yeah, I can swap the SSD on my laptops and tame the hybrid Win10/Linux OS.)

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 6:53:48am

re: #155 Belafon

He’s got a few things going against him this time:
1. He can no longer be the “not Hillary” candidate. Everyone’s a not-Hillary candidate.
2. I think some of his lack of appeal is because he couldn’t influence his “supporters” in 2016.
3. 2020 isn’t 2016. We’re not coming off of a popular Democratic president. We have Trump.
4. The nominees he’s running aginst now offer way more than a binary choice. All of his strength (white male) are covered by other candidates, and lot’s of people have a candidate that is concerned about their issues, meaning they are more likely to participate than before.

Yes. And honestly I really do think we underestimate that the Dem base is more moderate than online. But he’s also got a lot of shortcomings that aren’t ideological at all but are on him as a leader of people.

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Decatur Deb  May 10, 2019 • 7:03:24am

re: #153 Teukka

DAFUQ?

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Nostalgia.

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[deleted]  May 10, 2019 • 7:11:42am
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Belafon  May 10, 2019 • 7:16:31am

re: #159 garythat57

Are you a Democrat. get the latest book from
Michelle Obama called Becoming. show your support.
for more details.
please click the link below.
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I love Michelle, but we don’t need spam here. That’s why you’re getting a ding, first timer.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 10, 2019 • 7:18:39am

re: #155 Belafon

He’s got a few things going against him this time:
1. He can no longer be the “not Hillary” candidate. Everyone’s a not-Hillary candidate.
2. I think some of his lack of appeal is because he couldn’t influence his “supporters” in 2016.
3. 2020 isn’t 2016. We’re not coming off of a popular Democratic president. We have Trump.
4. The nominees he’s running aginst now offer way more than a binary choice. All of his strength (white male) are covered by other candidates, and lot’s of people have a candidate that is concerned about their issues, meaning they are more likely to participate than before.

How serious an effort did he really make to influence his supporters? He knew that if Hillary won, he would never have a serious chance to run again. So, wasn’t it in his interest to see her defeated? (Of course, since I continue to believe he is aligned with Putin — that would be an additional reason to see her defeated).

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 10, 2019 • 7:18:46am

re: #26 GlutenFreeJesus

All males should get vasectomies at birth. The procedure can be reversed when they marry the woman AND prove worthy of fatherhood. Any male that has the procedure reversed before then should get life in prison.

lol People. I posted that because it’s just as insane as what the anti-choice crowd is pushing in Ohio/Georgia etc. :)

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 10, 2019 • 7:19:10am

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Putin is a nationalist who hates the EU. They are nationalists too.

And they’ve decided that Putin being white and disliking minorities (ethnic or religious) is better than the part of the nation that tolerates them.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 10, 2019 • 7:19:31am

As if the pillows aren’t garbage, so are his politics.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 7:20:12am

re: #164 GlutenFreeJesus

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As if the pillows aren’t garbage, so are his politics.

I guess he needed more money for his grift.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 10, 2019 • 7:24:28am

re: #165 HappyWarrior

Wants that 2019 yacht. The 2018 is too old now.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 10, 2019 • 7:24:30am

re: #159 garythat57

You created an account just to post that? Go away.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 7:26:04am

re: #166 GlutenFreeJesus

Wants that 2019 yacht. The 2018 is too old now.

As I’ve said, the tax cut for a wealthy person means another yacht. For someone middle class, it means them being able to afford their health care more.

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Scottish Dragon  May 10, 2019 • 7:29:21am

My twitter is lighting up all over on this Baby Snidely Whiplash melt down.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 7:31:04am

re: #169 Scottish Dragon

My twitter is lighting up all over on this Baby Snidely Whiplash melt down.

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I don’t know who Andrew Neil is but a google search shows he’s definitely not on the left. Snidey Whiplash thinks anyone who doesn’t think like him is on the left.

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Scottish Dragon  May 10, 2019 • 7:33:06am

BBC dunking on Snidely now…

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 10, 2019 • 7:33:08am

re: #95 HappyWarrior

We as Americans are fortunate that war hasn’t been on our soil in years. Yeah 9/11 I know but the daily grind of a war? Not in a long time. And that’s good for obvious reasons but it also I think impacts our international outlook.

I would hold that part of what made an internationalist US foreign policy beneficial to the USA was that there was an understanding that it was better for the country in the long run to fight their wars on someone else’s soil than waiting for that war to come to yours.

Not so beneficial for the other person’s country perhaps, but also perhaps helped nip some bad developments in the bud. There is also the downside of getting involved in wars that should not have been entered at all; e.g. Vietnam.*

* - Reading has led me to the opinion that backing the French trying to reoccupy Vietnam as a colony was a bad move. That pretty much pushed the Viet Minh solidly into the Communist sphere. And the South Vietnamese government was one of those “we back an awful dictator since he is anti-communist” things. So the USA spent a lot of money and political capital trying to fight the tide of a nationalist movement that was pretty much going to win out in the long term.

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Scottish Dragon  May 10, 2019 • 7:33:32am
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gwangung  May 10, 2019 • 7:34:25am

re: #157 HappyWarrior

Yes. And honestly I really do think we underestimate that the Dem base is more moderate than online. But he’s also got a lot of shortcomings that aren’t ideological at all but are on him as a leader of people.

A) He’s not very flexible or dynamic; it took him until NOW to put up an anti-harassment policy when he was called out on it months ago
B) He makes questionable picks for his management team (e.g., Sirota, an unethical hack)
C) He builds a team that’s very sloppy on doing the little things (that’s Trumpian); his team structure doesn’t scale upward very well from an organization that’s OK for a small state.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 10, 2019 • 7:35:49am

re: #98 HappyWarrior

I see Boomers and even Gen Xers crap on Millennials for not knowing cursive. I learned cursive. It’s not as useful as typing is.

The only thing I do in cursive is my signature. I block print everything else I write, and it’s darn legible! (A result of technical drawing classes in high school I think, plus being raised by an engineer father. My brother also block prints everything as well.)

My printing was noticed at work as well since I was often assigned as scribe when stuff was being whiteboarded during meetings.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 10, 2019 • 7:36:00am

Not the Onion

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 10, 2019 • 7:36:05am

re: #174 gwangung

A) He’s not very flexible or dynamic; it took him until NOW to put up an anti-harassment policy when he was called out on it months ago
B) He makes questionable picks for his management team (e.g., Sirota, an unethical hack)
C) He builds a team that’s very sloppy on doing the little things (that’s Trumpian); his team structure doesn’t scale upward very well from an organization that’s OK for a small state.

Bernie has not yet realized his sell-by date was back in 2016.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 10, 2019 • 7:36:30am

What the fuck, California? I would expect this kind of shit from a red state but not from you.

(CNN) A San Francisco teacher who is on medical leave has to worry about more than just battling breast cancer.

On top of footing medical bills, she has to pay for a substitute teacher at Glen Park Elementary School.

All teachers receive 10 paid days of medical leave a year in the San Francisco United School District. If a teacher needs more time, they can get another 100 sick days — at a price. Under a 1976 California law, the cost for the substitute teacher will be deducted from the teacher’s salary.

The average daily cost of a substitute teacher in San Francisco is $203.16, San Francisco United School District spokeswoman Laura Dudnick said. In 2018, the average teacher salary in the school district, excluding benefits, was $82,024.37.

“This reflects California Education Code language related to extended sick leave that applies to all other school districts in California,” Dudnick said in a statement. “This is not unique to San Francisco. This is not a district-only rule.”

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gwangung  May 10, 2019 • 7:36:47am

re: #177 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Bernie has not yet realized his sell-by date was back in 2016.

Actually, the 1970s, because that’s where his world view dates back to…

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Scottish Dragon  May 10, 2019 • 7:39:51am

I would not have believed this, except I have heard and read multiple variations of this story from people who all experienced this kind of cheating by Trump on the golf course…

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Teukka  May 10, 2019 • 7:40:27am

re: #153 Teukka

DAFUQ?

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Update. My mom and me dug up the white/yellow/black flag in the video. Novorossiya. Same guys who are raising a stink in Luhansk and Donetsk “Peoples Republics”.

Novorossiya flag (one of them).
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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 7:40:46am

re: #174 gwangung

A) He’s not very flexible or dynamic; it took him until NOW to put up an anti-harassment policy when he was called out on it months ago
B) He makes questionable picks for his management team (e.g., Sirota, an unethical hack)
C) He builds a team that’s very sloppy on doing the little things (that’s Trumpian); his team structure doesn’t scale upward very well from an organization that’s OK for a small state.

Agreed on all counts.

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makeitstop  May 10, 2019 • 7:40:51am

re: #169 Scottish Dragon

My twitter is lighting up all over on this Baby Snidely Whiplash melt down.

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Does Baby Snidely always sound like he just took a hit off of a helium balloon? I LOLed at the very sound of his voice.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 7:42:00am

re: #172 Feline Fearless Leader

I would hold that part of what made an internationalist US foreign policy beneficial to the USA was that there was an understanding that it was better for the country in the long run to fight their wars on someone else’s soil than waiting for that war to come to yours.

Not so beneficial for the other person’s country perhaps, but also perhaps helped nip some bad developments in the bud. There is also the downside of getting involved in wars that should not have been entered at all; e.g. Vietnam.*

* - Reading has led me to the opinion that backing the French trying to reoccupy Vietnam as a colony was a bad move. That pretty much pushed the Viet Minh solidly into the Communist sphere. And the South Vietnamese government was one of those “we back an awful dictator since he is anti-communist” things. So the USA spent a lot of money and political capital trying to fight the tide of a nationalist movement that was pretty much going to win out in the long term.

Yeah I definitely think only viewing Vietnam and otehr places in Anti-Communism was a big mistake.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 10, 2019 • 7:42:10am

re: #176 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The helium crisis is no joke. It was foreseen years ago. This article is from 2015: peakscientific.com

Demand has exceeded the known supply — principally natural gas deposits. Aside from party balloons, the He shortage will also affect scientific research, specifically cryogenics and fusion research.

Ironically, if we had working fusion reactors, they could be used to make He from hydrogen.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 7:42:59am

re: #183 makeitstop

Does Baby Snidely always sound like he just took a hit off of a helium balloon? I LOLed at the very sound of his voice.

He always sounds that way. He looks like a teenager. I know we shouldn’t make fun of how people talk and look but he’s the one who does the stupid alpha male shit and mocks how his daughter runs so I don’t really mind mocking him for looking and acting like a teenager.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 10, 2019 • 7:44:07am

re: #145 Hecuba’s daughter

I am probably being over influenced by FB friends who are Bernie fanatics. It’s easy to slip into the belief that they represent a larger portion of population than their real presence because they are so dogmatic and vocal. And, of course, there is the adjacent fear that they will sabotage any non-Bernie candidate who ultimately gets the nomination.

The fact that there are (apparently a lot of) Bernie fanatics like that who would essentially ratfuck Trump into another term is a major reason I have no interest in supporting Bernie.

Fanatical “true believers” are the root cause of a lot of problems.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 7:45:55am

The problem with Ben Shapiro is he thinks he’s a lot more intelligent than he actually is. He doesn’t know his limitations. And he has a LOT of limitations. He thinks he’s this voice of a generation but he’s actually the oldest 35 year old you’ll ever meet.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 10, 2019 • 7:46:13am

re: #80 Eric The Fruit Bat

Ah, the old days of using a dwell-tachometer and strobe gun back on my first car (AMC Hornet)

Same with my 1970 1/2 AMC Gremlin base model!

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DangerMan  May 10, 2019 • 7:47:01am

re: #162 GlutenFreeJesus

lol People. I posted that because it’s just as insane as what the anti-choice crowd is pushing in Ohio/Georgia etc. :)

someone erased the snark tags

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DangerMan  May 10, 2019 • 7:48:43am

re: #170 HappyWarrior

I don’t know who Andrew Neil is but a google search shows he’s definitely not on the left. Snidey Whiplash thinks anyone who doesn’t think like him is on the left.

‘the left’, like so many other words is an all purpose smear

it doesnt mean anything any more

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DangerMan  May 10, 2019 • 7:51:37am

re: #174 gwangung

A) He’s not very flexible or dynamic; it took him until NOW to put up an anti-harassment policy when he was called out on it months ago
B) He makes questionable picks for his management team (e.g., Sirota, an unethical hack)
C) He builds a team that’s very sloppy on doing the little things (that’s Trumpian); his team structure doesn’t scale upward very well from an organization that’s OK for a small state.

and that’s merely management style - before even starting to discuss policy

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 7:52:00am

re: #191 DangerMan

‘the left’, like so many other words is an all purpose smear

it doesnt mean anything any more

Yep. It’s everything he dislikes.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 7:52:38am

re: #192 DangerMan

and that’s merely management style - before even starting to discuss policy

Right. I want a progressive agenda. I don’t want Bernie because he has no political leadership skills.

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Jay C  May 10, 2019 • 7:53:00am

re: #172 Feline Fearless Leader

I would hold that part of what made an internationalist US foreign policy beneficial to the USA was that there was an understanding that it was better for the country in the long run to fight their wars on someone else’s soil than waiting for that war to come to yours.

Not so beneficial for the other person’s country perhaps, but also perhaps helped nip some bad developments in the bud. There is also the downside of getting involved in wars that should not have been entered at all; e.g. Vietnam.*

* - Reading has led me to the opinion that backing the French trying to reoccupy Vietnam as a colony was a bad move. That pretty much pushed the Viet Minh solidly into the Communist sphere. And the South Vietnamese government was one of those “we back an awful dictator since he is anti-communist” things. So the USA spent a lot of money and political capital trying to fight the tide of a nationalist movement that was pretty much going to win out in the long term.

Agree pretty much with you re the origins of our involvement in Vietnam; except that Ho Chi Minh’s Vietminh movement had always been Communist from the get-go: which may or may not have been a factor in the US’ support for De Gaulle’s “recolonization” program in 1946, but was certainly a factor in how the war (which from the Vietnamese viewpoint was a 30-year struggle) developed from there…

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DangerMan  May 10, 2019 • 7:55:32am

re: #183 makeitstop

Does Baby Snidely always sound like he just took a hit off of a helium balloon? I LOLed at the very sound of his voice.

maybe that’s why the worldwide He shortage

re: #176 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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DangerMan  May 10, 2019 • 7:56:42am

re: #187 Feline Fearless Leader

The fact that there are (apparently a lot of) Bernie fanatics like that who would essentially ratfuck Trump into another term is a major reason I have no interest in supporting Bernie.

Fanatical “true believers” are the root cause of a lot of problems.

It is dangerous for the rest of us if you think you have the ultimate ideology

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 10, 2019 • 7:59:15am

re: #147 DangerMan

cribbed this from the NYT comments on friedman’s op ed:

and people are over there supporting all this as proof of ‘best president evah’

They say that because they love seeing Trump kicking colored people and LGBTQ people down.

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DangerMan  May 10, 2019 • 8:02:28am
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) tried to tamp down the political backlash over the Senate Intelligence Committee’s decision to subpoena Donald Trump Jr., urging the president “not to worry,” The Hill reports.

Said McConnell: “I know the president’s upset about that, but I think he ought not to worry about it. The chairman of the Intelligence Committee has already said the committee when it reports will find no collusion.”

this is stunning on multiple levels

- the subpoena is for Don Jr. - his testimony is not only gonna be about Don Sr. - he could hang himself in so many ways
- mitch is saying the committee already reached a conclusion - regardless of what information may still come out
- and they keep using that ‘no collusion’ as if it means something

gawd are we in trouble

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 10, 2019 • 8:02:43am

re: #195 Jay C

Agree pretty much with you re the origins of our involvement in Vietnam; except that Ho Chi Minh’s Vietminh movement had always been Communist from the get-go: which may or may not have been a factor in the US’ support for De Gaulle’s “recolonization” program in 1946, but was certainly a factor in how the war (which from the Vietnamese viewpoint was a 30-year struggle) developed from there…

True that they were - but they were pretty much the only even semi-organized anti-Japanese and anti-French group in the country. Which during WW2 got them support from the USA and the Republic of China. And their goal was the formation of a unified Vietnam. So post-WW2 I think I different course could have been taken that would I think have allowed for a “softer” landing so to speak with perhaps not as hardcore a government going into place. And Vietnam would probably have never allied with Communist China since China is pretty much a traditional enemy of Vietnam.

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gwangung  May 10, 2019 • 8:03:40am

re: #192 DangerMan

and that’s merely management style - before even starting to discuss policy

Heh….his fans yell it’s all word salad….

Sorry, folks…having good ideas is not enough…you have to be able to implement them.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 10, 2019 • 8:04:48am

Not much new here in this Bulwark article, it’s basically a Jacob Wohl’s greatest hits, but I did laugh so there’s that.

Jacob Wohl is the grifter’s grifter. If he’d been part of the Watergate crew, he would have broken into the RNC instead of the DNC. He is—and I do not say this lightly—the Eric Trump of dirty tricksters.

He’s Roger Stone without the class, Don Jr. without the intellect, Laura Loomer without the rage, Tomi Lahren without the breasts, Dan Bongino without the hair plugs, Diamond and Silk without the YouTube channel

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jaunte  May 10, 2019 • 8:05:16am
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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 8:06:13am

re: #201 gwangung

Heh….his fans yell it’s all word salad….

Sorry, folks…having good ideas is not enough…you have to be able to implement them.

To tell a little secret, I’m not even sold he’s all that on policy. Like listen. I’m all for reducing the price of college tuition. It IS a real problem. But it’s not the solve all that he thinks it is. His health care plan is all or nothing. 15 dollar minimum wage doesn’t solve the problems of underemployment that exist too. He’s simply not an effective leader. And I haven’t even talked about how he would deal with FP.

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DangerMan  May 10, 2019 • 8:08:07am

‘member this::

(and opposed to my last night’s gaffe, this is a real quote)

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Decatur Deb  May 10, 2019 • 8:12:06am

re: #185 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

The helium crisis is no joke. It was foreseen years ago. This article is from 2015: peakscientific.com

Demand has exceeded the known supply — principally natural gas deposits. Aside from party balloons, the He shortage will also affect scientific research, specifically cryogenics and fusion research.

Ironically, if we had working fusion reactors, they could be used to make He from hydrogen.

He is critical to cooling some consumer-level medical devices, like MRI. Such uses take about 20% of the available supply. Helium balloons make me cringe.

pureairemonitoring.com

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Hecuba's daughter  May 10, 2019 • 8:12:57am

re: #171 Scottish Dragon

BBC dunking on Snidely now…

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Someone posted the whole interview. Snidely is rude, offensive, and refuses to respond to legitimate questions. He is an absolutely appalling jerk. The attack on Jews who supported Obama is vile and dishonest beyond words. Is he really that ignorant or is he a sociopath, like the President he supports? Or maybe he is modelling himself after Trump since he has observed that style appeals to tens of millions of Americans — indeed the entire Republican base. Unlike Trump, he actually has command of the English language — but the results are just as destructive to American discourse.

It is amusing that Ben calls Neil, who is himself a right wing hack, a leftist. I suspect, though, that most serious Democrats would have had a far more civil exchange with Neil who probably expects a much more elevated discourse than modern day Republicans currently provide.

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Citizen K  May 10, 2019 • 8:14:21am

re: #207 Hecuba’s daughter

Someone posted the whole interview. Snidely is rude, offensive, and refuses to respond to legitimate questions. He is an absolutely appalling jerk. The attack on Jews who supported Obama is vile and dishonest beyond words. Is he really that ignorant or is he a sociopath, like the President he supports? Or maybe he is modelling himself after Trump since he has observed that style appeals to tens of millions of Americans — indeed the entire Republican base. Unlike Trump, he actually has command of the English language — but the results are just as destructive to American discourse.

It is amusing that Ben calls Neil, who is himself a right wing hack, a leftist. I suspect, though, that most serious Democrats would have had a far more civil exchange with Neil who probably expects a much more elevated discourse than modern day Republicans currently provide.

I can still never get past his Norman Batesean glare into the camera as he slouched forward.

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sagehen  May 10, 2019 • 8:15:53am

re: #170 HappyWarrior

I don’t know who Andrew Neil is but a google search shows he’s definitely not on the left. Snidey Whiplash thinks anyone who doesn’t think like him is on the left.

He’s the British equivalent of William F Buckley Jr.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 8:16:33am

re: #208 Citizen K

I can still never get past his Norman Batesean glare into the camera as he slouched forward.

I can’t understand why he’s popular. He’s smug. Not particularly intelligent. No sense of humor.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 8:17:12am

re: #209 sagehen

He’s the British equivalent of William F Buckley Jr.

Ah. Yeah so a liberal by the standards of the guy who sees himself as Millennial Bill Buckley.

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Decatur Deb  May 10, 2019 • 8:17:44am

re: #209 sagehen

He’s the British equivalent of William F Buckley Jr.

Two-bit snob with a two-dollar vocabulary?

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jaunte  May 10, 2019 • 8:18:04am

re: #207 Hecuba’s daughter

Ben is such a hack, whining about Andrew Neil going through things he’s said and posted, and having the nerve to ask questions about it.

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gocart mozart  May 10, 2019 • 8:19:01am
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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 8:19:41am

re: #207 Hecuba’s daughter

Someone posted the whole interview. Snidely is rude, offensive, and refuses to respond to legitimate questions. He is an absolutely appalling jerk. The attack on Jews who supported Obama is vile and dishonest beyond words. Is he really that ignorant or is he a sociopath, like the President he supports? Or maybe he is modelling himself after Trump since he has observed that style appeals to tens of millions of Americans — indeed the entire Republican base. Unlike Trump, he actually has command of the English language — but the results are just as destructive to American discourse.

It is amusing that Ben calls Neil, who is himself a right wing hack, a leftist. I suspect, though, that most serious Democrats would have had a far more civil exchange with Neil who probably expects a much more elevated discourse than modern day Republicans currently provide.

He lives in a right wing bubble. He hates liberal Jews because he’s at heart an insecure little jerk who wants the favor of the Evangelicals because he knows American Jews know his theories and rhetoric resemble the crap that’s been directed at Jews here and abroad for generations.

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DodgerFan1988  May 10, 2019 • 8:20:41am

re: #213 jaunte

Ben is such a hack, whining about Andrew Neil going through things he’s said and posted, and having the nerve to ask questions about it.

Reminder of how “Pro-Life” he is.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 8:20:41am

re: #212 Decatur Deb

Two-bit snob with a two-dollar vocabulary?

That yours DD? Because that’s the most apt description I’ve ever heard of Buckley.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 8:21:18am

re: #216 DodgerFan1988

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Reminder of how “Pro-Life” he is.

He’s a fucked up asshole who never resists an opportunity to be a bigoted shit.

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jaunte  May 10, 2019 • 8:21:28am

re: #216 DodgerFan1988

Vicious mini Ben.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 8:22:27am

re: #219 jaunte

Vicious mini Ben.

He thinks he’s more clever than Wohl and Loomer but they rot from the same fish.

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DangerMan  May 10, 2019 • 8:23:10am

re: #218 HappyWarrior

He’s a fucked up asshole who never resists an opportunity to be a lying bigoted shit.

just helpin out….

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 8:23:39am

re: #221 DangerMan

just helpin out….

True!

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jaunte  May 10, 2019 • 8:23:49am

It’s ridiculous to go on an interview and then demand the interviewer ANSWER MY QUESTION.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 8:24:30am

re: #223 jaunte

It’s ridiculous to go on an interview and then demand the interviewer ANSWER MY QUESTION.

When you jerk yourself off to your self importance as much as he does, it’s inevitable.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 10, 2019 • 8:26:39am

re: #215 HappyWarrior

He lives in a right wing bubble. He hates liberal Jews because he’s at heart an insecure little jerk who wants the favor of the Evangelicals because he knows American Jews know his theories and rhetoric resemble the crap that’s been directed at Jews here and abroad for generations.

There are very conservative Jews who hate Trump — Jennifer Rubin, Max Boot, and (gag) Bill Kristol. In this time of Trump, Max Boot wrote a paean to Obama , a man he never supported, because of the evil that is Trump.

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lawhawk  May 10, 2019 • 8:28:31am
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jaunte  May 10, 2019 • 8:28:44am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 10, 2019 • 8:29:01am

re: #225 Hecuba’s daughter

There are very conservative Jews who hate Trump — Jennifer Rubin, Max Boot, and (gag) Bill Kristol. In this time of Trump, Max Boot wrote a paean to Obama , a man he never supported, because of the evil that is Trump.

Those three helped drive the movement that got Trump elected. I can’t say I can make myself feel bad for them.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 8:29:21am

re: #225 Hecuba’s daughter

There are very conservative Jews who hate Trump — Jennifer Rubin, Max Boot, and (gag) Bill Kristol. In this time of Trump, Max Boot wrote a paean to Obama , a man he never supported, because of the evil that is Trump.

Rubin, Boot, & Kristol while conservative don’t attack American liberal Jews or question their Judaism, Ben does that and uses the same nativist bullshit that’s been used against Jews. That’s the difference here.

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ckkatz  May 10, 2019 • 8:29:38am

re: #100 HappyWarrior

We had it in Fairfax County. It was a pain tbh. I get why they taught it but Boomers, Silents, & Gen Xers are constantly whining about how Millennials can’t do certain things or that we do certain things.

Don’t feel bad. In the 1960’s we were cleaning out my great-aunt’s place after she passed away in her 90’s.

At one point my grandfather held up something that looked like a coffee mug and, with a sly smile asked, “Do you know what this is?”.

My response was “I dunno. A coffee mug?”

He cracked up and said “Nope, a chamber pot.”

I, apparently, was unfamiliar with the finer points of 19th century bathroom technology.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 8:30:07am

re: #228 Eclectic Cyborg

Those three helped drive the movement that got Trump elected. I can’t say I can make myself feel bad for them.

I don’t either but they at least don’t play Ben’s games.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 10, 2019 • 8:30:39am

My grandmother turns 92 today. Her memory is going but besides that she’s in reasonably good health for her age. I managed to get home to celebrate birthday 91 with her last year. Here’s hoping I make it back home soon to spend some more time with her.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 8:31:18am

re: #232 Eclectic Cyborg

My grandmother turns 92 today. Her memory is going but besides that she’s in reasonably good health for her age. I managed to get home to celebrate birthday 91 with her last year. Here’s hoping I make it back home soon to spend some more time with her.

Mine turns 92 this year too.

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gocart mozart  May 10, 2019 • 8:31:49am
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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 8:34:43am

re: #230 ckkatz

Don’t feel bad. In the 1960’s we were cleaning out my great-aunt’s place after she passed away in her 90’s.

At one point my grandfather held up something that looked like a coffee mug and, with a sly smile asked, “Do you know what this is?”.

My response was “I dunno. A coffee mug?”

He cracked up and said “Nope, a chamber pot.”

I, apparently, was unfamiliar with the finer points of 19th century bathroom technology.

Ha. Makes me realize something. My Dad’s grandfather was born before the telephone was invented-1874.

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ckkatz  May 10, 2019 • 8:35:32am

re: #84 Dr Lizardo

Nationalism lead to the destruction of vast swathes of Europe in the Twentieth Century. Hell, Berlin still hasn’t recovered to its pre-WW2 population level and that war has been over for 75 years.

FFS, they’re still finding WW1 ordnance in parts of France and Belgium and there’s still part of the Verdun battlefield that’s closed off - now over a century since the guns of 1918 fell silent.

Yup, and they’re even finding WW1 munitions in Washington, DC:

Almost 100 of D.C.’s most expensive homes will soon be screened for remnants of chemical weapons which were test-fired during World War I, WTOP has learned.

Letters have been sent to 91 homeowners in the Spring Valley neighborhood, providing details of how the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers will inspect their properties, as part of the decades-long cleanup of the World War I chemical weapons testing site on the grounds of American University.


91 homes in DC face testing for WWI chemical weapon remnants

Camp American University

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jaunte  May 10, 2019 • 8:37:19am
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lawhawk  May 10, 2019 • 8:38:00am

So, Trump sent B-52s to the Middle East as a deterrent/threat to Iran?

Let’s back up for a moment. What exactly is the threat? Iran’s responding to Trump essentially killing the JCPOA, and Iran is deciding that if the US withdraws, there’s no reason for Iran to comply with a deal that prevents Iran from doing what North Korea has done (go nuclear).

Trump’s response to this logical response is to ratchet up the rhetoric and move B-52s to the region? Except that they could still reach from Diego Garcia without putting our planes in harm’s way (stationing them locally means that they could be caught on the ground there). It’s transparent BS from Trump, and the Iranians are calling them out for it.

Trump’s gutting a deal that but for Obama’s name associated with it - is doing the job of constraining Iran’s nuclear program.

Meanwhile, Trump and Bolton are bumbling their way into an entirely preventable conflict because they both need to do something to deflect from the impeachment shit show that is still impending in DC.

Bolton and Trump both think they’re the smartest guys in the room, and neither are particularly smart - Trump is a con man who excels at lying to everyone with ever bigger lies. Surrounding himself with other liars doesn’t help.

Well, it helps Russia, who benefits from the chaos Trump sows. Everyone in the US? Not so much.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 10, 2019 • 8:40:40am

re: #171 Scottish Dragon

BBC dunking on Snidely now…

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Just in case anyone missed this, I’m posting it again.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 10, 2019 • 8:41:44am

While I’m at it, here’s another one

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 8:42:18am

re: #239 The Vicious Babushka

Just in case anyone missed this, I’m posting it again.

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As I said, he uses the same language that is used against Jews.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 8:43:09am

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

While I’m at it, here’s another one

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Oh man, that’s perfect. It gets down his self fellatio bs down pat.

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John Hughes  May 10, 2019 • 8:43:25am

re: #26 GlutenFreeJesus

All males should get vasectomies at birth. The procedure can be reversed when they marry the woman AND prove worthy of fatherhood. Any male that has the procedure reversed before then should get life in prison.

Looks like you’re a victim of Poe’s law.

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gocart mozart  May 10, 2019 • 8:43:31am
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DangerMan  May 10, 2019 • 8:44:33am

re: #232 Eclectic Cyborg

re: #233 HappyWarrior

my mom will be 91
she still lives in her own house, does her own shopping, cooking, driving (very local and she knows her limitations)

we are all really lucky

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jaunte  May 10, 2019 • 8:45:33am
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makeitstop  May 10, 2019 • 8:45:48am

re: #210 HappyWarrior

I can’t understand why he’s popular. He’s smug. Not particularly intelligent. No sense of humor.

Wasn’t he one of those ‘conservative prodigies’ that used to get led around on a leash to wingnut gatherings when he was a kid?

Former novelty, the pundit equivalent of a washed-up child actor.

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mmmirele  May 10, 2019 • 8:47:11am

I

One of my friends said that I’m an actual trouble source.

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Eventual Carrion  May 10, 2019 • 8:47:29am

re: #171 Scottish Dragon

BBC dunking on Snidely now…

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He has a brain that would rattle in a dry gnat.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 10, 2019 • 8:48:32am

re: #207 Hecuba’s daughter

Someone posted the whole interview. Snidely is rude, offensive, and refuses to respond to legitimate questions. He is an absolutely appalling jerk. The attack on Jews who supported Obama is vile and dishonest beyond words. Is he really that ignorant or is he a sociopath, like the President he supports? Or maybe he is modelling himself after Trump since he has observed that style appeals to tens of millions of Americans — indeed the entire Republican base. Unlike Trump, he actually has command of the English language — but the results are just as destructive to American discourse.

It is amusing that Ben calls Neil, who is himself a right wing hack, a leftist. I suspect, though, that most serious Democrats would have had a far more civil exchange with Neil who probably expects a much more elevated discourse than modern day Republicans currently provide.

I still treasure the clip of Neil smacking down Alex Jones.

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Belafon  May 10, 2019 • 8:49:56am

re: #248 mmmirele

I have a t-shirt that says “In my defense, I was left unsupervised.”

Edit: I have plenty of other shirts with phrases. That’s just one that yours made me think of.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 10, 2019 • 8:50:56am

re: #249 Eventual Carrion

He has a brain that would rattle in a dry gnat.

Or make a parakeet fly backwards.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 8:52:56am

re: #247 makeitstop

Wasn’t he one of those ‘conservative prodigies’ that used to get led around on a leash to wingnut gatherings when he was a kid?

Former novelty, the pundit equivalent of a washed-up child actor.

Yeah I think so.

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gocart mozart  May 10, 2019 • 8:53:55am

re: #244 gocart mozart

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jaunte  May 10, 2019 • 8:54:36am
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ckkatz  May 10, 2019 • 8:55:52am

re: #238 lawhawk

So, Trump sent B-52s to the Middle East as a deterrent/threat to Iran?

Let’s back up for a moment. What exactly is the threat? Iran’s responding to Trump essentially killing the JCPOA, and Iran is deciding that if the US withdraws, there’s no reason for Iran to comply with a deal that prevents Iran from doing what North Korea has done (go nuclear).

Trump’s response to this logical response is to ratchet up the rhetoric and move B-52s to the region? Except that they could still reach from Diego Garcia without putting our planes in harm’s way (stationing them locally means that they could be caught on the ground there). It’s transparent BS from Trump, and the Iranians are calling them out for it.

Trump’s gutting a deal that but for Obama’s name associated with it - is doing the job of constraining Iran’s nuclear program.

Meanwhile, Trump and Bolton are bumbling their way into an entirely preventable conflict because they both need to do something to deflect from the impeachment shit show that is still impending in DC.

Bolton and Trump both think they’re the smartest guys in the room, and neither are particularly smart - Trump is a con man who excels at lying to everyone with ever bigger lies. Surrounding himself with other liars doesn’t help.

Well, it helps Russia, who benefits from the chaos Trump sows. Everyone in the US? Not so much.

Yup, Trump has brought war from peace.

In 2004 Iraq was an isolated broken country with the shell of a defeated army. Iraq can be summarized as a river valley.

Iran is almost as big as Alaska. It has a population of over 80 million.

Is about as far from us on this green earth as it is possible for one to go.

They lost near a million people in the Iran-Iraq War the last generation. And have the political will to do it again.

A war will likely shut down the Persian Gulf and it’s oil.

The Iraqi ruling leadership are philosophical allies of Iran. And are likely to side with it. Will we be able to get out our thousands of troops out there in time?

Iran borders Afghanistan and has lots of allies there. I suspect that we will be run out of Afghanistan by force. Look up the 1842 retreat from Kabul.

Jordan, Syria, and Kurdistan are a walk away from Iran. Further destabilization is not going to benefit them.

Russia will love it. Their oil production will be needed to replace the Persian Gulf oil. And anyone who resents our trashing the Middle East is going to cozy up to Russia.

Plus, the Europeans are going to give us a big nope.

At best, at the end of this, we will end up in exactly the same spot except major portions of the Middle East and hearts and minds there, will be flaming wreckage. With a lot of dead people and a lot of wasted treasury. And that assumes, the best.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 10, 2019 • 8:57:39am

re: #256 ckkatz

So what you’re saying is Iran would be like Iraq 2003 times ten?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 10, 2019 • 8:58:21am

re: #216 DodgerFan1988

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Reminder of how “Pro-Life” he is.

He wouldn’t say that if Trayvon was a fetus, preferably white…

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mmmirele  May 10, 2019 • 8:58:44am

re: #164 GlutenFreeJesus

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As if the pillows aren’t garbage, so are his politics.

His pillows are garbage. My brother bought some and was completely unimpressed.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 8:59:08am

re: #258 Joe Bacon 🌹

He wouldn’t say that if Trayvon was a fetus, preferably white…

Of course not. The same reason he only calls pro choice Democratic women supporters of infanticide.

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Sir John Barron  May 10, 2019 • 8:59:29am

re: #226 lawhawk

Not collusion! Not Illegal!!

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John Hughes  May 10, 2019 • 8:59:29am

re: #88 HappyWarrior

Our country loves to call the French cowards. I would love to see how Americans would feel about war if we had two world wars in our backyards.

Two world wars? Merely the climax.

In the Franco-Prussian war they fought a battle in my back yard. Literally in my back yard. There are are the bones of a thousand unidentified French and German soldiers buried in a monument a few hundred yards away from my house.

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Belafon  May 10, 2019 • 9:00:10am

re: #257 Eclectic Cyborg

So what you’re saying is Iran would be like Iraq 2003 times ten?

They didn’t mention the part where the Iranian terrain is way worse than Iraq from a military standpoint.

Edited

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 9:01:28am

re: #262 John Hughes

Two world wars? Merely the climax.

In the Franco-Prussian war they fought a battle in my back yard. Literally in my back yard. There are are the bones of a thousand unidentified French and German soldiers buried in a monument a few hundred yards away from my house.

Correct. I’m just saying that the memories of war are very real to your neighbors.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 9:01:57am

re: #263 Belafon

He didn’t mention the part where the Iranian terrain is way worse than Iraq.

Iran is less isolated than Saddam’s Iraq too. Geopolitically speaking.

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Old Liberal  May 10, 2019 • 9:03:04am

re: #74 steve_davis

yeah. I detest South Carolina, but the cost of living is lower than it is in rural Ecuador, so with what I make, it’s tolerable.

Have you personally been to rural Ecuador? Can’t see how anywhere in the US is cheaper.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 10, 2019 • 9:03:15am

re: #265 HappyWarrior

Iran is less isolated than Saddam’s Iraq too. Geopolitically speaking.

Yeah. Iran would be a mess. Bolton probably thinks he could drop a few nukes and end it quickly. WRONG.

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ckkatz  May 10, 2019 • 9:05:26am

re: #257 Eclectic Cyborg

So what you’re saying is Iran would be like Iraq 2003 times ten?

Yep, except even worse.

In 2004 Iraq really couldn’t do any major damage to us. At worst, some of our local allies might take a few hits. Iraq was in a box, and everybody knew it.

Today, a war with Iran could severely damage our geo-political standing, cost many times more casualties, damage our economy and those of most of the liberal world, and drive lots of folks into the arms of our adversaries, Russia and China.

The international and economic damage would take decades to repair. The loss of life and hearts and minds, generations. And that assumes that we even win the war while preserving our Constitution.

Sorry to be such a downer. :(

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DangerMan  May 10, 2019 • 9:06:35am

re: #259 mmmirele

His pillows are garbage. My brother bought some and was completely unimpressed.

my pillows are my pillows

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 10, 2019 • 9:07:44am

I’m not picky about pillows. As long as the firmness is where I like it and the pillowcase is thin, I’m happy.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 9:08:52am

re: #268 ckkatz

Yep, except even worse.

In 2004 Iraq really couldn’t do any major damage to us. At worst, some of our local allies might take a few hits. Iraq was in a box, and everybody knew it.

Today, a war with Iran could severely damage our geo-political standing, cost many times more casualties, damage our economy and those of most of the liberal world, and drive lots of folks into the arms of our adversaries, Russia and China.

The international and economic damage would take decades to repair. The loss of life and hearts and minds, generations. And that assumes that we even win the war while preserving our Constitution.

Sorry to be such a downer. :(

Correct. Iran has powerful friends.

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Belafon  May 10, 2019 • 9:12:25am

re: #271 HappyWarrior

Correct. Iran has powerful friends.

That and it’s really obvious who the aggressor would be.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 10, 2019 • 9:12:49am

Iran also has one of the worlds largest population of Muslims.

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jaunte  May 10, 2019 • 9:16:22am
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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 9:17:01am

re: #272 Belafon

That and it’s really obvious who the aggressor would be.

It would be a huge PR win for the regime.

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jaunte  May 10, 2019 • 9:17:38am
This doesn’t sound like the most efficient means of production.

Which means it won’t last beyond the time Republicans maybe stop doing favors for Russian oligarchs on our dime.

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Belafon  May 10, 2019 • 9:17:51am

re: #274 jaunte

Has no one ever heard of alchemy?!

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lawhawk  May 10, 2019 • 9:19:03am

re: #273 Eclectic Cyborg

Iran also has one of the worlds largest population of Muslims.

Of Shia; they are a minority among Muslims worldwide. That’s why the nuclear program is seen as a threat - to Sunni nations like Saudi Arabia. Saudis want a balance to Iranian nuclear ambitions, and Trump was going to give it to them.

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jaunte  May 10, 2019 • 9:20:20am
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ckkatz  May 10, 2019 • 9:20:24am

One last thought, then I need to go out and mow the grass.

What the heck does ‘winning’ in Iran even mean? All I see is a bunch of incoherent screaming and arm waving.

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DangerMan  May 10, 2019 • 9:21:01am

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 9:22:57am

I’m on the second part of the Mueller Report. There’s no question to me that he Trump obstructed justice. None at all.

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gocart mozart  May 10, 2019 • 9:23:27am
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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 9:24:33am

re: #283 gocart mozart

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You’re weak sauce, Ben. You just see everything left of you as “leftism” because you lived in the Breitbart safe space where everythign left of Bannon’s drunk ass was deemed left.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 10, 2019 • 9:25:16am

re: #279 jaunte

Oh, some people will tell him what’s wrong. He just doesn’t give a shit.

And how come farmers are the only people hurt by Trump that get a bailout?

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gwangung  May 10, 2019 • 9:25:27am

re: #274 jaunte

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Do I smell the odor of detergents in the Kentucky air?

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jaunte  May 10, 2019 • 9:25:45am

re: #283 gocart mozart

As I’m not familiar with him or his work,

Can a lie be any more obvious, Ben?
en.wikipedia.org

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 9:28:00am

re: #287 jaunte

Can a lie be any more obvious, Ben?
en.wikipedia.org

He equates criticism of the pro-life movement as “leftism” because he has no critical thinking skills. He probably doesn’t know that the justice who wrote the majority opinion on Roe was a Nixon appointee and known as a judicial conservative at the time of his decision. Justice Blackmun btw..

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jaunte  May 10, 2019 • 9:29:42am

“I know nothing about a man I agreed to sit down with for an interview, despite being able to find out about his history with a five minute online search.”

—Champeen Debater

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Scottish Dragon  May 10, 2019 • 9:35:14am

Jen Rubin lays it out:

Mr. Giuliani’s plans create the remarkable scene of a lawyer for the president of the United States pressing a foreign government to pursue investigations that Mr. Trump’s allies hope could help him in his re-election campaign.

Democrats should call this out for what it is: Betrayal of, and disloyalty to, the United States.
Beyond that, the House should expeditiously pass a law making it mandatory for a campaign to report all contacts with foreign officials, prohibiting solicitation of information or action from a foreign government for the purpose of influencing a campaign, and making it illegal to knowingly use material provided directly or indirectly from a foreign government in a campaign.

I am often asked whether the Republican Party can be rehabilitated. A party is made up of individuals; in this case, a group of elected leaders who uniformly invite foreign intervention in our election should be permanently disqualified from holding office. They have violated their oaths in the most egregious manner possible and cannot be entrusted with power again. Ever.

washingtonpost.com

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DangerMan  May 10, 2019 • 9:36:07am

4 Elementary School Teachers Suspended After Photo Emerges Of Them Holding Noose, Laughing

Lopez [the reporter] was told the photo was only supposed to be shared among a small group of friends and was never intended to be put on social media.

so once again…
we know exactly what we’re doing
we know exactly what it means
we didn’t think anyone would find out

…and we’d be able to get away with being our racist selves

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wrenchwench  May 10, 2019 • 9:41:24am
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Sir John Barron  May 10, 2019 • 9:50:03am

re: #291 DangerMan

4 Elementary School Teachers Suspended After Photo Emerges Of Them Holding Noose, Laughing

so once again…
we know exactly what we’re doing
we know exactly what it means
we didn’t think anyone would find out

…and we’d be able to get away with being our racist selves

I really like the “But it wasn’t supposed to be shared on social media” defense.

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wrenchwench  May 10, 2019 • 10:01:29am

re: #293 Sir John Barron

I really like the “But it wasn’t supposed to be shared on social media” defense.

‘It was only meant for anti-social media.’

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 10, 2019 • 10:02:24am

re: #293 Sir John Barron

I really like the “But it wasn’t supposed to be shared on social media” defense.

Right, like the ONLY problem with it is that it ended up on someones news feed.

That said, I do support the right of racists to express their opinions privately with each other if that’s their thing.

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Jay C  May 10, 2019 • 10:04:17am

re: #268 ckkatz

Yep, except even worse.

In 2004 Iraq really couldn’t do any major damage to us. At worst, some of our local allies might take a few hits. Iraq was in a box, and everybody knew it.

Today, a war with Iran could severely damage our geo-political standing, cost many times more casualties, damage our economy and those of most of the liberal world, and drive lots of folks into the arms of our adversaries, Russia and China.

The international and economic damage would take decades to repair. The loss of life and hearts and minds, generations. And that assumes that we even win the war while preserving our Constitution.

Sorry to be such a downer. :(

Yep. Another potential geopolitical disaster we can *thank* George W. Bush and his neocon creatures for.

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gwangung  May 10, 2019 • 10:04:42am

re: #295 Eclectic Cyborg

Right, like the ONLY problem with it is that it ended up on someones news feed.

That said, I do support the right of racists to express their opinions privately with each other if that’s their thing.

This is actually perfectly fine.

I am also fine with them catching hell if their opinions become public. And they SHOULD catch hell.

That’s how it’s supposed to work.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 10, 2019 • 10:08:04am
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The Vicious Babushka  May 10, 2019 • 10:09:51am

I just had a new crystal put on my dad’s watch, which brings it one step closer to The Hammer of Theseus. I have already replaced the watchband (several times) and the battery (several times).

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jaunte  May 10, 2019 • 10:10:47am
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DangerMan  May 10, 2019 • 10:10:54am

re: #295 Eclectic Cyborg

Right, like the ONLY problem with it is that it ended up on someones news feed.

That said, I do support the right of racists to express their opinions privately with each other if that’s their thing.

heck, i support their right to express their opinions publicly… and to take personal responsibility for the consequences

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 10, 2019 • 10:10:59am
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DangerMan  May 10, 2019 • 10:12:22am

re: #298 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

What he says here simply isn’t correct.

like ‘he’ had any part in writing this

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DangerMan  May 10, 2019 • 10:16:04am

re: #302 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

when i first read this i thought two things

first the obvious - trump is a very small person. ok a fuckwad

second, 10 or 11 year old hits onto the green.

YouTube

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jaunte  May 10, 2019 • 10:16:51am

re: #302 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Trump is worse than anyone can imagine.

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Decatur Deb  May 10, 2019 • 10:18:17am

re: #217 HappyWarrior

That yours DD? Because that’s the most apt description I’ve ever heard of Buckley.

Might be mine, might be something that accumulated over the last 60 years. The 70s and 80s are a bit of a blur.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 10:19:49am

re: #302 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I can’t lose Monty. They’ll eat me alive. //

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 10, 2019 • 10:20:51am

re: #302 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

What…a…petty…asshole.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 10:20:54am

re: #306 Decatur Deb

Might be mine, might be something that accumulated over the last 60 years. The 70s and 80s are a bit of a blur.

It’s apt as I said. Buckley wasn’t as smart as he thought he was.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 10:21:32am

re: #308 Eclectic Cyborg

What…a…petty…asshole.

Seriously. I get competitive. I’m competitive. Can’t even lose gracefully to a kid?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 10, 2019 • 10:22:10am

re: #310 HappyWarrior

Seriously. I get competitive. I’m competitive. Can’t even lose gracefully to a kid?

EXACTLY.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 10, 2019 • 10:22:45am

Just got up. Any mass shootings yet?

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 10:24:52am

re: #311 Eclectic Cyborg

EXACTLY.

He’s so incredibly pathetic.

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Dave In Austin  May 10, 2019 • 10:25:01am

LOLOLOL!!

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 10, 2019 • 10:25:14am

re: #312 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Just got up. Any mass shootings yet?

No, but I think the kids that survived last weeks are getting medals today…or something.

/

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Chrysicat  May 10, 2019 • 10:26:12am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 10, 2019 • 10:27:33am

re: #314 Dave In Austin

LOLOLOL!!

[Embedded content]

Jesus told him to do that…

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 10, 2019 • 10:27:36am

re: #314 Dave In Austin

LOLOLOL!!

[Embedded content]

Twin Cities-based MyPillow is laying off roughly 10% of its workforce at its manufacturing plant in Shakopee.

That means about 150 employees will be without jobs.

In a statement, CEO Mike Lindell says: “Exciting changes are happening at MyPillow. I am getting ready to launch my next venture, mystore.com.”

Lindell says the decision was difficult, but what’s best for the future of the company, to make room for the online store where inventors will sell their products.

He said employees have been informed of job opportunities outside of MyPillow if they choose.

Lindell said they anticipate hiring once the new online store is up and running.

Ah, yes. The “you can’t have your old job back but we’ll give you a new one that pays less” trick.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2019 • 10:27:56am

re: #316 Chrysicat

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My favorite is when Boomers blame us for the participation trophies they gave us.

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Decatur Deb  May 10, 2019 • 10:28:20am

re: #315 Eclectic Cyborg

No, but I think the kids that survived last weeks are getting medals today…or something.

/

Combat Infant’s Badge.

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plansbandc  May 10, 2019 • 10:30:26am

re: #97 jeffreyw

Beautiful birdies!

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 10, 2019 • 10:56:59am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

He equates criticism of the pro-life movement as “leftism” because he has no critical thinking skills. He probably doesn’t know that the justice who wrote the majority opinion on Roe was a Nixon appointee and known as a judicial conservative at the time of his decision. Justice Blackmun btw..

Ben might be learning that the non-USA media is not going to just lob him softballs and agree with his prejudices and non-logic.

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jeffreyw  May 10, 2019 • 11:49:08am

re: #321 plansbandc

We noticed the bunting yesterday at the stump feedlot. They are fairly common summer birds but yesterday was the first time I’ve seen one there. Usually they hit the thistle seed on the other side of the house.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  May 10, 2019 • 12:29:40pm

re: #316 Chrysicat

[Embedded content]

I think the reason for a lot of the Millenials not memorizing stuff is that they no longer have to. They are following Einstein’s attitude toward transactive memory; stuff you “know” because it’s in your friend’s head or in a book you can look up.

Einstein once told a reporter that he didn’t even know his own telephone number because he didn’t bother to stick anything in his head that he could look up in less than two minutes. Nowadays … that’s almost everything and the Millennials know it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2019 • 12:55:37pm

re: #295 Eclectic Cyborg

Right, like the ONLY problem with it is that it ended up on someones news feed.

That said, I do support the right of racists to express their opinions privately with each other if that’s their thing.

I support their right to express those opinions publicly because it makes it that much easier for the rest of us to identify them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2019 • 1:53:52pm

re: #320 Decatur Deb

Combat Infant’s Badge.

metal baseball bats


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