Seth takes a closer look at the president meeting with the leader of Hungary and feuding with China while his lawyer was trying to get Ukraine to meddle in the 2020 election.
AUGH!!!
CL’d again! I think that’s three times today alone!
So this is it. If your emperor is a BASE MOBSTER but manages to cover it up, you have to tell him he has the most beautiful clothes, and pointing out that he’s naked means half your party goes to federal prison. It was a nice republic we had, but #WeCouldntKeepItMrFranklin.
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) May 14, 2019
Apparently they’ve gone insane
“In the weeks before they were ousted last month, Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and top immigration enforcement official Ronald Vitiello challenged a secret White House plan to arrest thousands of parents and children in a blitz operation against migrants in 10 major U.S. cities,” the Washington Post reports.
“The ultimate purpose was a show of force to send the message that the United States was going to get tough by swiftly moving to detain and deport recent immigrants — including families with children.”
re: #1 Chrysicat
AUGH!!!
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Next up, an investigation of the investigator. And then an investigation of the investigator of the investigator.
re: #2 DangerMan
Apparently they’ve gone insane
Cheese sandwiches. #KrystallnachtII isn’t a question of “if” anymore, but “when”, innit?
re: #2 DangerMan
I’m sure this filthy idea originated with Miller/Bannon. They probably want to start a fucking race war by sparking police riots in many cities at once.
re: #2 DangerMan
Apparently they’ve gone insane
It was probably also meant to create propaganda about certain cities hiding dangerous illegals, and that the Feds must act against them.
re: #3 Belafon
Next up, an investigation of the investigator. And then an investigation of the investigator of the investigator.
Coming next fall, an exciting new police drama: CSII — the show that gets to the heart of why criminal investigations are even begun!
re: #8 DangerMan
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Ignorance?
Prejudice?
Both ✓
Oh, dear Heaven, tell me that’s The Onion or Borowitz. PLEASE.
re: #8 DangerMan
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Ignorance?
Prejudice?
Both ✓
Yes: XXIX%
No: LVI%
No opinion: XV%
re: #8 DangerMan
Similar to the famous survey of mall shoppers about their feelings about a radical manifesto called the Declaration of Independence.
Hebrew numerals are kind of cool because they are also letters of the alphabet!
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 14, 2019
Sounds like the poll for banning dihydrogen monoxide.
re: #11 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Similar to the famous survey of mall shoppers about their feelings about a radical manifesto called the Declaration of Independence.
Going to the general public with this question would yield extremely depressing results.
Who said the following?
Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.
A) Abraham Lincoln
B) Karl Marx
C) Saul Alinsky
D) Mao Zedong
E) Barack Obama
re: #16 EPR-radar
Going to the general public with this question would yield extremely depressing results.
Who said the following?
A) Abraham Lincoln
B) Karl Marx
C) Saul Alinsky
D) Mao Zedong
E) Barack Obama
A)
re: #16 EPR-radar
Going to the general public with this question would yield extremely depressing results.
Who said the following?
A) Abraham Lincoln
B) Karl Marx
C) Saul Alinsky
D) Mao Zedong
E) Barack Obama
A LINCOLN
re: #15 Cheechako
Sounds like the poll for banning dihydrogen monoxide.
At least that doesn’t come from bigoted ignorance. Not good mind you.
re: #2 DangerMan
Apparently they’ve gone insane
Duterte is the role model that the administration is aspiring to.
But yeah I’ve seen the story make the rounds. Holy shit. All you gotta do is say Arab. Then again people think Allah is sinister even though Arab Christians say it too.
re: #23 Colère Tueur de Lapin
Duterte is the role model that the administration is aspiring to.
Orban. This administration has many role models. None good.
NEWS: Trump targets Pell Grant money for NASA’s budget boost https://t.co/15JeakxAuP
— Jill Colvin (@colvinj) May 14, 2019
re: #27 Teukka
Watching E02 “Please Remain Calm” Now.
All I will say is I’m glad we have scientists. Really hoping they get listened to on climate change.
re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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Enrollment in the program has declined since 2011, leading to a surplus of nearly $9 billion, according to the budget office. The administration had originally proposed using $2 billion of that surplus to fund other spending. The new request brings that total to $3.9 billion, which OMB described as similar to its request in the 2018 budget. The administration proposed a similar cancellation of unobligated Pell grant money for 2019, but later backed off the idea.
I’m curious why enrollment is declining.
re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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OFFS. I guess cutting defense waste or raising taxes even a little was too much to ask but yeah fuck kids who can’t afford college.
Not terribly surprising, but it looks like Robert Kraft got pretty much all of the evidence against him thrown out on 4th amendment grounds.
This speech is Rod in a nutshell. Would be nice if he would defend the career men and women at DOJ from the sitting president’s attacks with even 10% of the vigor with which he defends his own reputation against the former FBI Director. https://t.co/3TPX6O1NiQ
— Matthew Miller (@matthewamiller) May 14, 2019
re: #28 HappyWarrior
All I will say is I’m glad we have scientists. Really hoping they get listened to on climate change.
Call me morbidly cynical, but… I think it will take a Al baseball bat to the teeth a lá Fukushima or Chernobyl (in terms of impact, not radiation (please not radiation)) for people to wake up and smell the coffee wildfires…
re: #32 jaunte
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He’s showing his true Starrs. Asshole. He knows exactly why Comey is vehemently anti Trump and it’s not partisan.
re: #33 Teukka
Call me morbidly cynical, but… I think it will take a Al baseball bat to the teeth a lá Fukushima or Chernobyl (in terms of impact, not radiation (please not radiation)) for people to wake up and smell the
coffeewildfires…
I hate to say it but you’re probably right. I just hope it won’t be too late. We’re already messing up big time.
re: #34 HappyWarrior
Rosenstein was as weak a character as he appeared.
The top tweet is the Arizona AG, after nunchucks were legalized
The bottom is the Director of the AZ Dept of Public Safety
Prior to this video I agreed with the Governor in his support. Now! Clearly the Governor should have vetoed this bill.
— Col. Frank Milstead (@frank_milstead) May 13, 2019
re: #2 DangerMan
Apparently they’ve gone insane
Keep in mind, they wanted to arrest and deport American citizens who happened to have parents that are undocumented immigrants.
re: #5 EPR-radar
I’m sure this filthy idea originated with Miller/Bannon. They probably want to start a fucking race war by sparking police riots in many cities at once.
Karma will come for Steven Miller and his Slumlord Parents.
re: #39 DodgerFan1988
Keep in mind, they wanted to arrest and deport American citizens who happened to have parents that are undocumented immigrants.
Which is scary and unprecedented as hell. Japanese internment on steroids.
People who leave the Trump administration inevitably leak all the crazy requests they refused. While that’s certainly reputation triage, if half of it’s true, mad king has been appropriately telegraphed for the coming act three crisis.
— Schooley (@Rschooley) May 14, 2019
re: #36 Belafon
What expectation of privacy? Do I get to expect privacy if I’m robbing a bank?
No, but if you were shoplifting and you were caught because there were cameras in the changing room that would probably get tossed, that might be more analogous. A big part of the problem was apparently how broad the initial warrant was. The police recorded everyone who went in whether they were breaking the law or not including women whose videos are still in the record and have been viewed by detectives.
I’m just wondering how a glance can be “sprawling.” https://t.co/scn9lEVwtX
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 14, 2019
re: #32 jaunte
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I had no confidence in Rosenstein right from the start and he’s proving why I thought he was nothing but a partisan whore.
Fences don’t work
Will the White House try to separate them? https://t.co/JhiCQmnAKQ
— Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) May 13, 2019
Shocked, shocked I say
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is joining the Southern Baptist Convention and Catholic Church in opposing a LGBT nondiscrimination bill in Congress. https://t.co/Z5xWkObI07
— AP West Region (@APWestRegion) May 14, 2019
re: #49 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Shocked, shocked I say
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Usually if those three are in agreement on something, it involves telling women what to do with their bodies or thinking that protecting LGBT people against discrimination somehow violates their religious freedom. It’s not religious freedom if you’re denying someone’s rights, you chodes.
Someone bought a judge.
Judge ruled video was an illegal search. As well as the subsequent stop of his car, which was used to identify him after he left the massage parlor
Massage parlor footage of Patriots owner suppressed in Florida case https://t.co/Do9RZwebvD pic.twitter.com/FnLBIRwRxf
— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) May 14, 2019
The winning continues
Asian shares extend losses following sharp falls on Wall Street overnight as U.S.-China trade war heats up https://t.co/tEDg70qXGI by @apgalbraith pic.twitter.com/8X2neJDjN7
— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) May 14, 2019
Trump requests $1.6B in new NASA funding for 2024 moon landing https://t.co/SNA5t4n1gT pic.twitter.com/puuKRk1YWz
— CBS News (@CBSNews) May 14, 2019
Sad that she was appointed as an immigration judge in November 2018 and then was diagnosed with cancer and is now dead. Her stage name was Susan Springfield and she was in Erasure and her own band.
— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) May 14, 2019
The best thing on the Internet. https://t.co/310tzFtVI9
— Brian Schatz (@brianschatz) May 14, 2019
re: #54 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Someone must have told him about China’s moon program. China is said to be planning to land a human crew on the Moon by 2030.
re: #51 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Someone bought a judge.
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Technicality. He’ll find another place that abuses women that is more underground.
re: #20 HappyWarrior
Chernobyl wow.
re: #27 Teukka
Watching E02 “Please Remain Calm” Now.
Woah. Punch to the gut.
And they mentioned Alexey Ananenko, Boris Baranov and Valery Bespalov by name.
Damn it’s good. Scares the fecal matter outta me, but damn it’s good TV.
Isotopically pure nightmare fuel rating stands.
re: #58 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Someone must have told him about China’s moon program. China is said to be planning landing a human crew on the Moon by 2030.
China will get to the moon and they will also get to Mars while the Radical Xtians will be forcing everyone in what’s left of the United States to attend mandatory bible classes.
re: #60 Teukka
Woah. Punch to the gut.
And they mentioned Alexey Ananenko, Boris Baranov and Valery Bespalov by name.
Damn it’s good. Scares the fecal matter outta me, but damn it’s good TV.
Isotopically pure nightmare fuel rating stands.
Yeah it must be really personal for you since you mentioned that the radiation was literally near you growing up. It makes me think about what happens when you let an ideology whether that’s communism, capitalism or whatever be your sole deciding factor about the best course of action to a problem.
re: #61 Joe Bacon 🌹
China will get to the moon and they will also get to Mars while the Radical Xtians will be forcing everyone in what’s left of the United States to attend mandatory bible classes.
I foresee a joint ESA-China Mars mission. Maybe Russia will also be invited, but it will decline, preferring its American colony as its sole partner.
/-half
Can we send the Trump clan to RIgel 7? I hear they have a great cookbook with recipes Don would love.
re: #62 HappyWarrior
Yeah it must be really personal for you since you mentioned that the radiation was literally near you growing up. It makes me think about what happens when you let an ideology whether that’s communism, capitalism or whatever be your sole deciding factor about the best course of action to a problem.
Happy I couldn’t watch Chernobyl because it brought back bad bad memories of Three Mile Island when my Mom was continually calling me in Chicago because she was afraid the reactor would explode. And the day before the accident, Mom and Dad went to see The China syndrome…
re: #65 Joe Bacon 🌹
Happy I couldn’t watch Chernobyl because it brought back bad bad memories of Three Mile Island when my Mom was continually calling me in Chicago because she was afraid the reactor would explode. And the day before the accident, Mom and Dad went to see The China syndrome…
Wow I don’t blame you. It’s fascinating to me since it happened just before I was born but man it is so upsetting too.
re: #62 HappyWarrior
Yeah it must be really personal for you since you mentioned that the radiation was literally near you growing up. It makes me think about what happens when you let an ideology whether that’s communism, capitalism or whatever be your sole deciding factor about the best course of action to a problem.
That old dude in episode 1 telling the younger dudes to remember the bravery of Lenin and the duty of the State to protect its “children” was pretty chilling. Seal off the city. Let no one in or out. The people of Chernobyl will be remembered as martyrs of the Motherland.
That’s how autocracies work. The State knows best, even when it completely fucks things up.
re: #64 HappyWarrior
Can we send the Trump clan to RIgel 7? I hear they have a great cookbook with recipes Don would love.
I’d rather he go to Rura Penthe.
(Props for anyone who gets the reference)
re: #63 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
I foresee a joint ESA-China Mars mission. Maybe Russia will also be invited, but it will decline, preferring its American colony as its sole partner.
/-half
SF writers often propose realignments of the major powers in the future. Right now, I’m seeing a Russia-USA alignment and a China-EU alignment, with India as a wild card. The UK is also a big question.
re: #67 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
That old dude in episode 1 telling the younger dudes to remember the bravery of Lenin and the duty of the State to protect its “children” was pretty chilling. Seal off the city. Let no one in or out. The people of Chernobyl will be remembered as martyrs of the Motherland.
That’s how autocracies work. The State knows best, even when it completely fucks things up.
Yeah the old guy really stood out to me too. I found it very chilling yet very believable. How old would you say that guy was? Let’s say 70. He would have no memory other than the Soviet regime and unquestioning loyalty to the state.
re: #70 HappyWarrior
Yeah the old guy really stood out to me too. I found it very chilling yet very believable. How old would you say that guy was? Let’s say 70. He would have no memory other than the Soviet regime and unquestioning loyalty to the state.
Probably also a WWII veteran.
re: #69 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
SF writers often propose realignments of the major powers in the future. Right now, I’m seeing a Russia-USA alignment and a China-EU alignment, with India as a wild card. The UK is also a big question.
Brazil intrigues me. I’m trying to think of other emerging powers. What I’m interested in is what happens in Russia when Putin croaks or how Putin croaks.
Interesting, since we’ve been discussing it on here. Washington Monthly
Do Kamala Harris and Pete Buttigieg Disagree About Identity Politics?
re: #72 HappyWarrior
Brazil intrigues me. I’m trying to think of other emerging powers. What I’m interested in is what happens in Russia when Putin croaks or how Putin croaks.
Brazil has great promise if it could only figure out how to govern itself successfully. Each administration seems to suck worse than the one before.
Also Putin cannot die. He has looked Death squarely in the eyes, and Death ran away screaming in terror.
// that last part
For HW! Atlas Obscura
The Intrepid Herb Hunters Who Scour Alpine Mountains and Meadows for Top Chefs
Slovenia’s most celebrated restaurants rely on their foraging.
re: #71 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Probably also a WWII veteran.
Without a doubt. Either a combat vet or a commissar. I like that you can do that with characters. Because when you know context and perspective, it makes them easier to understand. I mean that guy was obvoiusly very nearsighted but it’s all he knew and since we got shown Gorby tonight, I am going to again think about how different the 1980’s would have been had Andropov or Cherenenko been General Secretary. I won’t say Reagan deserves zero credit for the end of Communism and the fall of the wall but having Gorby as his Soviet counterpart helped.
re: #75 retired cynic
For HW! Atlas Obscura
The Intrepid Herb Hunters Who Scour Alpine Mountains and Meadows for Top Chefs
Slovenia’s most celebrated restaurants rely on their foraging.
Cheers! Thank you. Other than potica, I’m not that familiar with Slovenian cuisine.
re: #66 HappyWarrior
Wow I don’t blame you. It’s fascinating to me since it happened just before I was born but man it is so upsetting too.
Mom got hysterical because Dad worked at the Shippingport reactor and she was convinced it would blow with Dad at the plant. Dad kept trying to calm her down but she was just plain scared.
re: #78 Joe Bacon 🌹
Mom got hysterical because Dad worked at the Shippingport reactor and she was convinced it would blow with Dad at the plant. Dad kept trying to calm her down but she was just plain scared.
I can totally understand that. I bet my grandparents’ mothers worried sick about my grandparents’ fathers in the coal mines with their history. That’s why I get so pissy when I see Trump, a man who knows nothing about coal mining or its history romanticize it. It was work for my two Great Grandpas but damn it, it’s obsolete now.
re: #79 HappyWarrior
I can totally understand that. I bet my grandparents’ mothers worried sick about my grandparents’ fathers in the coal mines with their history. That’s why I get so pissy when I see Trump, a man who knows nothing about coal mining or its history romanticize it. It was work for my two Great Grandpas but damn it, it’s obsolete now.
If it had not been for John L Lewis taking the United Mine Workers out of the AFL and forming the CIO there would have been NO Steelworkers Union. And it breaks my heart to see that the Republicans in West Virginia passed a Right To Work (for less) bill.
re: #80 Joe Bacon 🌹
If it had not been for John L Lewis taking the United Mine Workers out of the AFL and forming the CIO there would have been NO Steelworkers Union. And it breaks my heart to see that the Republicans in West Virginia passed a Right To Work (for less) bill.
My grandparents have told me that John L. Lewis’s portrait was one that was proudly hung in their homes. I wish they had kept it because I would totally keep in my room. And I hear you about West Virginia, the current governor who is a huge Trump buddy looks like he belongs in that era even. I also had uncles that worked in the steel mills. I’m glad that my Grandpa used his GI Bill on a brickmasonry program. Grandpa ended up living to be nearly 80. much older than his Dad and brothers were when they died. I still miss him but he got a good life by not working in the mills and mines. And he got to what he wanted.
re: #62 HappyWarrior
Yeah it must be really personal for you since you mentioned that the radiation was literally near you growing up. It makes me think about what happens when you let an ideology whether that’s communism, capitalism or whatever be your sole deciding factor about the best course of action to a problem.
Kids not being allowed outside to play or even have breaks between lessons didn’t just occur in Germany, but in Sweden as well. I was one of them. As I recall, it was especially when we had rains coming from the wrong direction. I remember being told to not step in puddles of water unless you had to. And I lived in one of the lesser hit areas! Gävleborg County and parts of Northen Sweden had it worse. It still happens in parts of Norway, Finland and Sweden that meat has to be destroyed and discarded because it has too many Bq/kg…
Monitoring of among other things reindeer meat will probably last past the lifetime of any children I might have. The public siren system signal “VMA” (Viktigt Meddelande till Allmänheten (Important Message to the Public)) was rolled out in 1986, and the Chernobyl disaster was one of the major factors behind it. It’s why it gives me the chills when I hear it the first non-holiday monday in each quarter (Dec, Mar, Jun, Sep) at 3 pm local. And why I was on the floor (I sleep in a loft bed) by the second or third 7-second burst of the siren when a silent test went loud as hell 2017-07-09 at 22:00. From being sound asleep.
Because I remember all too well why they created it.
And yeah, it has taught me the utter idiocy of letting ideology be the sole deciding factor when deciding the best way to deal with a problem, or even admitting the problem exists. Reality does not give a single fuck about your ideology or beliefs. It does not make any difference how beautiful your ideology or belief is. It does not make any difference how smart you are, who made the policy, or what his or her name is - if it isn’t reacting to reality, it is wrong and only luck will dictate how hard reality paddles your ass. Because it is a question of when it will be paddled, not if.
re: #68 Eclectic Cyborg
I’d rather he go to Rura Penthe.
(Props for anyone who gets the reference)
Better known as “the aliens graveyard“…
re: #82 Teukka
Kids not being allowed outside to play or even have breaks between lessons didn’t just occur in Germany, but in Sweden as well. I was one of them. As I recall, it was especially when we had rains coming from the wrong direction. I remember being told to not step in puddles of water unless you had to. And I lived in one of the lesser hit areas! Gävleborg County and parts of Northen Sweden had it worse. It still happens in parts of Norway, Finland and Sweden that meat has to be destroyed and discarded because it has too many Bq/kg…
Monitoring of among other things reindeer meat will probably last past the lifetime of any children I might have. The public siren system signal “VMA” (Viktigt Meddelande till Allmänheten (Important Message to the Public)) was rolled out in 1986, and the Chernobyl disaster was one of the major factors behind it. It’s why it gives me the chills when I hear it the first non-holiday monday in each quarter (Dec, Mar, Jun, Sep) at 3 pm local. And why I was on the floor (I sleep in a loft bed) by the second or third 7-second burst of the siren when a silent test went loud as hell 2017-07-09 at 22:00.
Because I remember all too well why they created it.And yeah, it has taught me the utter idiocy of letting ideology be the sole deciding factor when deciding the best way to deal with a problem, or even admitting the problem exists. Reality does not give a single fuck about your ideology or beliefs. It does not make any difference how beautiful your ideology or belief is. It does not make any difference how smart you are, who made the policy, or what his or her name is - if it isn’t reacting to reality, it is wrong and only luck will dictate how hard reality paddles your ass. Because it is a question of when will be paddled, not if.
It’s crazy that it’s still having a major impact today. And yeah reality doesn’t care about ideology. You’re absoluetly right about that. And that’s what really pisses me off about socialism now types or capitalism number one types. Focus on the solution not ideologically jerking yourself off.
I just realised the DVD I have also has the Danish dub of MTMTE. I was not fucking prepared for Danish Starscream. pic.twitter.com/184jFijh5V
— Swedish Robot Fish (@SwedeRobotFish) May 13, 2019
re: #84 HappyWarrior
It’s crazy that it’s still having a major impact today. And yeah reality doesn’t care about ideology. You’re absoluetly right about that. And that’s what really pisses me off about socialism now types or capitalism number one types. Focus on the solution not ideologically jerking yourself off.
The manager in charge of the night shift (don’t recall the name) was also blind to reality. He had several staff members saying, “Boss, there is something seriously wrong here,” and he kept going on about a relatively minor hydrogen tank explosion, even when it was clear it was something much worse.
More chilling was his sudden presentation of severe radiation sickness in the bunker.
Dreams. Hoping for a better tomorrow.
re: #84 HappyWarrior
It’s crazy that it’s still having a major impact today. And yeah reality doesn’t care about ideology. You’re absoluetly right about that. And that’s what really pisses me off about socialism now types or capitalism number one types. Focus on the solution not ideologically jerking yourself off.
It’s one of the reasons why I’m not that tempted by becoming a politician. I’m sick and tired of the - pardon my french - endless circle jerking on both left and right. We need real, pragmatic and effective (in the scientific sense) solutions to a whole host of problems, which hurt and kill people daily, even in the western world…
*goes to stand in corner, continuing to fume profusely*
A whole lotta Lutz!!
Ladies and gentlemen, the alt-right has formed a supergroup and their first single is here: PizzaGate Is Real! @RealAlexJones @Gavin_McInnes @Cernovich #TheLingeringWilburys pic.twitter.com/VMuF2hrLeF
— Nick Lutsko (@NickLutsko) August 20, 2018
re: #88 Teukka
It’s one of the reasons why I’m not that tempted by becoming a politician. I’m sick and tired of the - pardon my french - endless circle jerking on both left and right. We need real, pragmatic and effective (in the scientific sense) solutions to a whole host of problems, which hurt and kill people daily, even in the western world…
*goes to stand in corner, continuing to fume profusely*
I hear ya. I’m definitely a liberal but I don’t like overly ideological governance.
re: #89 Dave In Austin
A whole lotta Lutz!!
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re: #86 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
The manager in charge of the night shift (don’t recall the name) was also blind to reality. He had several staff members saying, “Boss, there is something seriously wrong here,” and he kept going on about a relatively minor hydrogen tank explosion, even when it was clear it was something much worse.
More chilling was his sudden presentation of severe radiation sickness in the bunker.
I think Legasov is on record saying that “there is only so much horror the mind can take before it shuts down”, implying it was what happened with the people in charge. Still, Legasov felt that they should be lined up and shot.
Yeah, sudden presentation of radiation sickness is chilling as fuck. There is something which is referred to as “The Walking Ghost Phase” (a.k.a. “latent phase”) of radiation sickness. It is a period of apparent health, lasting for hours or days, following a dose of 10-50 sieverts of radiation. As its name would suggest, the walking ghost phase is followed by certain death. The phase of apparent recovery is due to the lag time of the effects of radiation poisoning to surface. While the irradiation has resulted in bone marrow destruction and death of many rapidly multiplying cells, the surface effects do not become apparent until later.
For example, irradiation kills the rapidly dividing cells of the gastrointestinal tract, however diarrhea is not apparent until the cells begin to slough off, coming out in bloody excrement. Loss of this protective lining exposes the body to bacteria within the gut causing sepsis. Also, this causes an inability to absorb nutrition from food. This is the same with the rapidly proliferating cells of the immune system. Irradiation essentially halts white blood cell production by destroying bone marrow, however the remaining white blood cells within the body are still temporarily working, until they are “used up”.
Basically, you think your pal has survived until he crashes unexpectedly, with bleedings that won’t stop out of every orifice… And people wonder why I harshly give my piece of mind to any RWNJ (it almost invariably is a RWNJ) who goes “Nook ‘em al, let Cod srot dem oot!”
re: #87 I Would Prefer Not To
Dreams. Hoping for a better tomorrow.
I have been robbed of most of my dreams and wishes. Still hoping for a better tomorrow. More and more prepared each day to roll up my sleeves and get my hands dirty which practical remedies to the problem. Not politics. Action. And not illegal action, BTW.
re: #90 HappyWarrior
I hear ya. I’m definitely a liberal but I don’t like overly ideological governance.
Social democrat here. But ideological governance needs to be fucking airlocked.
re: #89 Dave In Austin
A whole lotta Lutz!!
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Not sure if I should feel bad for finding the song kind of catchy…
re: #94 Teukka
Social democrat here. But ideological governance needs to be fucking airlocked.
It’s dangerous. It’s what we have in our executive branch with Trump.
re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg
Not sure if I should feel bad for finding the song kind of catchy…
I really preferred the Bon Iver inspired Alex Jones song.
re: #96 HappyWarrior
It’s dangerous. It’s what we have in our executive branch with Trump.
I wish I was using hyperbole, but that Mango Menace is a clear and present danger to the entirety of humanity…
re: #92 Teukka
Radiation burns you from the inside out, unless you’re exposed to especially intense radiation that will visibly burn your skin. Then, you’re burned inside and out. Either way, you’re a goner. It is the worst way to die, though ebola runs a close second.
re: #98 Teukka
I wish I was using hyperbole, but that Mango Menace is a clear and present danger to the entirety of humanity…
No, he absolutely is. I’ve been to Europe twice since he became President. Haven’t talked to one European who likes him even in more conservative Poland and Slovakia where I was last summer. My cousin the Slovakian mayor asked my other cousin and I if he was crazy.
Not being allowed to discriminate doesn’t affect what you can believe.
— Roger Roger (@canjetsfan) May 14, 2019
It’s almost as though you think your enemies won’t totally realise that that applies to race as well, so that your next goal is to totally reinstate Jim Crow as long as it’s done by religiously-motivated individuals and not mandated by the legislature. We aren’t that dumb.
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) May 14, 2019
re: #99 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Radiation burns you from the inside out, unless you’re exposed to especially intense radiation that will visibly burn your skin. Then, you’re burned inside and out. Either way, you’re a goner. It is the worst way to die, though ebola runs a close second.
The thing is, it can take 3 hours, 3 days, 3 weeks or 3 fucking suffering months to die. But death is certain. You are, triage-wise, “Expectant” or black tag. The pain is unimaginable, and even the strongest painkillers such as fentanyl will only take the edge of it off. Back in 1908, a scientist wrote “the agony of inflamed X-ray lesions is almost unequalled in any other disease”.
Where you have healthcare structure intact, it can be handled. Where it isn’t, such as a atom bombing site (like, in Hiroshima, only 3 out of 15 hospitals remained operable, and barely so). I shudder just having to think of such a scenario and how to handle it. And have gotten kicked out of rightie-infested chats numerous times when I point what you need to be prepared for on top of all the prepping they are up to…
I’d prefer to expire from Ebola, TYVM :’(
re: #101 Chrysicat
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Tehy do want Jim Crow for LGBT people and then they want to say that LGBT people having rights is the same as Jim Crow. It makes my head hurt just thinking about it.
BTW, forgot to add this about the VMA. It is 7 second tone, 14 silence, repeated for 2 minutes. It means go indoors, shut down ventilation (if you can) and listen to the public service “P4” network.
All clear is constant tone for 30-40 seconds. If the all clear repeats 15 seconds apart, it’s a preparedness/mobilization alarm… Which the catch that it cannot be undone over radio or telephone, only by your superiors and in a special way.
David Brooks: The Crepes of Wrath, Part II https://t.co/mvOn05QLGQ#vf!
— driftglass (@Mr_Electrico) May 14, 2019
re: #100 HappyWarrior
No, he absolutely is. I’ve been to Europe twice since he became President. Haven’t talked to one European who likes him even in more conservative Poland and Slovakia where I was last summer. My cousin the Slovakian mayor asked my other cousin and I if he was crazy.
Obligatory answer would be “you need to ask!?” And maybe add a modded variant of Jim Wright of Stonekettle’s rant:
“He is completely bonkers. And by bonkers I mean crazy. Looney Tunes. Starkers. The kind of bat-shit, drooling, bug-eyed, barking at the moon, piss-drinking, smeared in their own excrement, self-mutilating insanity you get from eating a steady diet of lead paint chips and snorting Tester’s Model Cement straight from the tap.”
Trump is feting him because they’re both linked to a transnational mafia syndicate headed by Semyon Mogilevich, who once made Hungary his base, but that’s the sort of thing you should be investigating on the House Intel committee instead of having me tell you about it on Twitter
— Sarah Kendzior (@sarahkendzior) May 13, 2019
re: #108 gocart mozart
The Mueller report mentions so many Russians, Ukrainians and what not as having connections to and contacts with Trump & Company that it boggles the mind. There is so much circumstantial evidence of cooperation and quid pro quos that even a half-assed prosecutor could get convictions.
I don’t want to sound all tinfoil-hat crazy here, but the people pushing the buttons around the world are not Soros, the Juice, the Illuminati or the Bilderberg group — it’s the Russian mob and the oligarchs associated with it. I doubt it is actual conspiracy, but rather a case of various parties with similar motives seeing opportunities and seizing them. It would be clear to anyone who has met him that Trump was an easy mark, who surrounds himself with people with few scruples or ethics. In short, many opportunities just waiting to be cultivated.
re: #110 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
The Mueller report mentions so many Russians, Ukrainians and what not as having connections to and contacts with Trump & Company that it boggles the mind. There is so much circumstantial evidence of cooperation and quid pro quos that even a half-assed prosecutor could get convictions.
I don’t want to sound all tinfoil-hat crazy here, but the people pushing the buttons around the world are not Soros, the Juice, the Illuminati or the Bilderberg group — it’s the Russian mob and the oligarchs associated with it. I doubt it is actual conspiracy, but rather a case of various parties with similar motives seeing opportunities and seizing them. It would be clear to anyone who has met him that Trump was an easy mark, who surrounds himself with people with few scruples or ethics. In short, many opportunities just waiting to be cultivated.
All it took was Putin to be smarter than Trump.
re: #109 Amory Blaine
I steer clear of reddit for anything involving fandom. I can’t deal with that much stupid in one place. Twitter is bad enough.
re: #112 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
I steer clear of reddit for anything involving fandom. I can’t deal with that much stupid in one place. Twitter is bad enough.
I miss when fandom wasn’t an excuse to be a sexist, racist, homophobic dickwad.
re: #111 HappyWarrior
All it took was Putin to be smarter than Trump.
Putin, Kim, Xi, Bibi — they all know how easy it is to manipulate Trump to do just what they want.
re: #113 HappyWarrior
I miss when fandom wasn’t an excuse to be a sexist, racist, homophobic dickwad.
It went downhill after Gamergate brought out the dickwads in force.
re: #114 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Putin, Kim, Xi, Bibi — they all know how easy it is to manipulate Trump to do just what they want.
Yep. And that’s why they hated Obama. They couldn’t do that to him. And they wouldn’t be able to do it to Clinton either.
re: #115 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
It went downhill after Gamergate brought out the dickwads in force.
It really did. I am a longtime gamer but gamer gate exposed a lot of rot in that community.
re: #113 HappyWarrior
I miss when fandom wasn’t an excuse to be a sexist, racist, homophobic dickwad.
I miss when fandom wasn’t about toxic cynicism somehow being equivalent to intellectualism.
re: #118 SteelPH
I miss when fandom wasn’t about toxic cynicism somehow being equivalent to intellectualism.
Ditto. Fucking Pewdiepie man.
re: #118 SteelPH
I miss when fandom wasn’t about toxic cynicism somehow being equivalent to intellectualism.
This seems to be the current state of intellectualism across the board now. Its opposition is intellectualism disguised as “yearning for the old days when everything was just peachy.”
I thought it captured the general zeitgeist.
re: #119 HappyWarrior
Ditto. Fucking Pewdiepie man.
I have seen only one of his videos, and that was enough. I saw he and Chloe Bennett were dating, and my estimation of her as a person dropped by 10 points.
re: #122 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
I have seen only one of his videos, and that was enough. I saw he and Chloe Bennett were dating, and my estimation of her as a person dropped by 10 points.
Hearing his voice was once enough.
re: #120 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Ya get your mug chewed out if you’re a fa/iry optimistic, Christian person.
re: #120 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
This seems to be the current state of intellectualism across the board now. Its opposition is intellectualism disguised as “yearning for the old days when everything was just peachy.”
See, Peterson, Jordan.
re: #125 HappyWarrior
See, Peterson, Jordan.
Yeah, another dickwad I could have lived happily not hearing about repeatedly.
Some humor is like that too. Just being a douchebag. I do love Key and Peele tho. They poke fun without belittling or dehumanizing. And man Jordan Peele is versatile. They both are but Jordan especially is. I’ll always be a fan of Dave Chappelle but Peele is the more talented performer.
re: #126 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Yeah, another dickwad I could have lived happily not hearing about repeatedly.
Yep. A mediocre mind for the white male heterosexual penis grievance complex as I call these guys. Their whole con is whining about how hard straight white dudes have it. Oh no, someone called me cracker! That means the n word is okay. And sexual harassment is cool!
re: #128 HappyWarrior
Yep. A mediocre mind for the white male heterosexual penis grievance complex as I call these guys. Their whole con is whining about how hard straight white dudes have it. Oh no, someone called me cracker! That means the n word is okay. And sexual harassment is cool!
There’s the gist of the GOP platform right there.
re: #129 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
There’s the gist of the GOP platform right there.
Yep!
I also could live my life without hearing cuck used not in a Shakespearean context.
re: #69 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
SF writers often propose realignments of the major powers in the future. Right now, I’m seeing a Russia-USA alignment and a China-EU alignment, with India as a wild card. The UK is also a big question.
That’s the Firefly/Serenity backstory.
re: #69 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
The UK is in the slow process of committing suicide under the urging of xenophobic nationalists, who refuse to admit that their little England was always incapable of sustaining itself outside of being part of a global empire, once their local population grew large enough.
The “British Isles” are indeed islands, that were important in history for two reasons: tin, and coal. The first allowed for the bronze age in north and western Europe, the latter fueled the Industrial Revolution.
The islands were quickly denuded of trees even by the “middle ages”, so much so that Lords and Kings fiercely protected their own forests and hunting grounds.
Brexit is nothing less than Trumpism with slightly better grammar and make-up.
re: #132 sagehen
That’s the Firefly/Serenity backstory.
I’ve been rewatching Firefly. Probably affected my thinking on this matter.
It’s remarkable how well the series holds up after 17 years. It wisely did not spend time on SF-tech argle-bargle (like Star Trek) but explored more the political and social aspects of a widely dispersed, space-faring culture. The Expanse series is another example of the same focus on the consequences of scientific and technological advances.
No one in the Firefly universe goes on and on about how the spacecraft engines work, aside from some slyly named components that go bad from time to time.
Well, I’m back from the DS9 documentary (What We Left Behind), and an evening surrounded by Star Trek fandom. Which is free of toxic cynicism, toxic masculinity, and homophobia. I recommend it.
Also the documentary.
A few scattered thoughts on the topics from above:
The year after Three Mile Island was the first year we had House Finches at our feeder. My mother thought that they looked like mutant sparrows, so we there after called them Three Mile Island Sparrows.
I remember going to Shippingport reactor in 1967 as part of a class trip.
I did some reading on DOE emergency publications at Hillman Library one evening. Up until Three Mile Island (TMI), most of the papers were on terrorist attacks against nuclear reactors. After TMI, they were on accidents at reactors.
re: #135 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…
Well, I’m back from the DS9 documentary (What We Left Behind), and an evening surrounded by Star Trek fandom. Which is free of toxic cynicism, toxic masculinity, and homophobia. I recommend it.
Also the documentary.
DS9 was another series that was less about techno-babble and more about society, politics and religion in an interstellar culture.
The new Star Trek series seems rather to follow the blockbuster movie tendency to imagine some overwhelming existential crisis that our heroes must prevent, preferably by mucking about with the timeline.
re: #39 DodgerFan1988
Keep in mind, they wanted to arrest and deport American citizens who happened to have parents that are undocumented immigrants.
The only difference between conservatism now and when I was a child is they seem to be in a position to do it.
When you are one of those people have been telling all your life “you don’t belong here” when they find out how your grandparents got here, you tend to view that political philosophy as toxic to your own survival.
There is a reason I never voted for a Republican.
re: #49 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Shocked, shocked I say
Religion poisons everything. - Christopher Hitchens
I’m just sayin’ …
I hope Better Call Saul sticks the landing. IMHO it’s turning out better than Breaking Bad. https://t.co/yam32Peak4
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) May 13, 2019
re: #140 teleskiguy
“… being the best tv show of all time.”
I wouldn’t go that far. Gilligan’s Island set a pretty high bar for other TV shows to surpass… only Fantasy Island did that.
re: #82 Teukka
While I didn’t have to put up with Chernobyl here in Nebraska, I get the idea of a siren being upsetting as all get out when it fires of unexpectedly.
Two direct hits on my house by tornadoes will do that.
Unlike our old town tornado siren, our new one ($50,000) I can hear at my house. Test day is every Thursday at noon during tornado season.
It went off twice at odd times since we installed it in town. Once was a misfire (and I was in the closet in about ten seconds). The other was during our recent blizzard (an embedded funnel cloud went over the town).
The highspots in the history of American television:
Fantasy Island
Gilligan’s Island
The Love Boat
The Dating Game
Maury
All Star Wrestling (TV show of Bob Geigel’s NWA territory)
Celebrity Bowling (only the first season though.)and of course….
re: #92 Teukka
I think Legasov is on record saying that “there is only so much horror the mind can take before it shuts down”, implying it was what happened with the people in charge. Still, Legasov felt that they should be lined up and shot.
Yeah, sudden presentation of radiation sickness is chilling as fuck. There is something which is referred to as “The Walking Ghost Phase” (a.k.a. “latent phase”) of radiation sickness. It is a period of apparent health, lasting for hours or days, following a dose of 10-50 sieverts of radiation. As its name would suggest, the walking ghost phase is followed by certain death. The phase of apparent recovery is due to the lag time of the effects of radiation poisoning to surface. While the irradiation has resulted in bone marrow destruction and death of many rapidly multiplying cells, the surface effects do not become apparent until later.
For example, irradiation kills the rapidly dividing cells of the gastrointestinal tract, however diarrhea is not apparent until the cells begin to slough off, coming out in bloody excrement. Loss of this protective lining exposes the body to bacteria within the gut causing sepsis. Also, this causes an inability to absorb nutrition from food. This is the same with the rapidly proliferating cells of the immune system. Irradiation essentially halts white blood cell production by destroying bone marrow, however the remaining white blood cells within the body are still temporarily working, until they are “used up”.
Basically, you think your pal has survived until he crashes unexpectedly, with bleedings that won’t stop out of every orifice… And people wonder why I harshly give my piece of mind to any RWNJ (it almost invariably is a RWNJ) who goes “Nook ‘em al, let Cod srot dem oot!”
I loved that particular part of NBC training in the Navy. For those topside on a ship, after a simulated nuclear attack, they would run everyone through decontamination stations. Part of decon is to read out dosimeters … if you were above the lethal limit, you got put on the high risk teams of clean up and such, since you were dead but you didn’t know it.
The whole point was to get the ship back in fighting shape to retaliate.
re: #111 HappyWarrior
All it took was Putin to be smarter than Trump.
Reading LGF to my wife.
Her response to this: “Well, that doesn’t take much.”
re: #145 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
There’s something very 1960’s about this recording.
Sure, Daenerys committed crimes against humanity, but even if Tyrion, Sansa, and others want her off the Iron Throne, there’s no way Mitch McConnell and the other GOP Senators will vote to remove her, given her judicial appointments, deregulatory policy, & tax cuts for the rich.
— Dorf on Law (@dorfonlaw) May 13, 2019
Regarding the latest episode of GoT, two complaints:
The script falls back on the old trope of the lovers (Cersei and Jamie) dying together in each other’s arms. I watched it and felt, you two deserve each other and the hundreds of tons of brick and stone falling on top of you. But, it was not an emotionally satisfying end to Cersei. Plus, Sandor convincing Arya at the very last minute not to kill Cersei in vengeance was also pretty lame. She’s spent several seasons imagining the killing of Cersei, then all of a sudden she changes her mind and says, “Hey, thanks, Sandor! Now, you have fun trying to kill your brother. Bye!”
Memo to @BetoORourke and @staceyabrams (and other hopefuls): Democrats must do more than beat Trump in 2020. We face an uphill battle to win the Senate, without which all will be lost. Justice Ginsburg is 86. Justice Breyer is 80. Need I say more?
— Laurence Tribe (@tribelaw) May 13, 2019
re: #136 ckkatz
A few scattered thoughts on the topics from above:
The year after Three Mile Island was the first year we had House Finches at our feeder. My mother thought that they looked like mutant sparrows, so we there after called them Three Mile Island Sparrows.
I remember going to Shippingport reactor in 1967 as part of a class trip.
I did some reading on DOE emergency publications at Hillman Library one evening. Up until Three Mile Island (TMI), most of the papers were on terrorist attacks against nuclear reactors. After TMI, they were on accidents at reactors.
When you’ve read up on it, you also realize how much of nuclear incidents and accidents is either unforeseen circumstances (e.g. “one stuck rod criterion” after SL-1) or people either in management or on the floor cutting corners on radiological hygiene and safety protocol (lacking safety culture). It’s sickening, really.
It is not a place to be cheap. It is not a place to regard something you’ve done a gazillion times before as anywhere near routine. In fact, I seem to recall that at Los Alamos and other nuclear weapons facilities, they rotate people so they won’t get too comfy with their tast, it became protocol after the “demon core” accidents.
In the instant you cut corners or becoming complacent, the dragon will turn on you, and this particular dragon has a real killer breath.
re: #144 Anymouse 🌹
I loved that particular part of NBC training in the Navy. For those topside on a ship, after a simulated nuclear attack, they would run everyone through decontamination stations. Part of decon is to read out dosimeters … if you were above the lethal limit, you got put on the high risk teams of clean up and such, since you were dead but you didn’t know it.
The whole point was to get the ship back in fighting shape to retaliate.
I’ve watched the first two episodes of Chernobyl tonight…so far, it’s extremely well-done historical nightmare fuel.
re: #152 TedStriker
I’ve watched the first two episodes of Chernobyl tonight…so far, it’s extremely well-done historical nightmare fuel.
Aye. Isotopically pure nightmare fuel.
re: #149 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Regarding the latest episode of GoT, two complaints:
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Now that I think about it …
Also lame was Jaime leaving Brienne to “save” his sister, and tough-as-nails Brienne suddenly becoming a blubbering, needy girlfriend.
The showrunners spent eight seasons developing strong female characters, and in two episodes, ruined three of them: Arya, Brienne and Dany. Given time, I could envision more in-character conclusions to their story arcs.
re: #151 Teukka
I’ve also read critiques of the control room designs, putting highly important controls very far apart from each other, or in illogical places, which slows down operator response to emergencies.
re: #61 Joe Bacon 🌹
China will get to the moon and they will also get to Mars while the Radical Xtians will be forcing everyone in what’s left of the United States to attend mandatory bible classes.
And the Flat Earth Society will be insisting that schools “teach the controversy”.
re: #74 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Brazil has great promise if it could only figure out how to govern itself successfully. Each administration seems to suck worse than the one before.
Also Putin cannot die. He has looked Death squarely in the eyes, and Death ran away screaming in terror.
// that last part
He will appoint an official spiritual medium and continue to rule from Beyond the Grave
re: #118 SteelPH
I miss when
fandomPolitical Discourse in America wasn’t about toxic cynicism somehow being equivalent to intellectualism.
re: #143 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
The highspots in the history of American television:
You left out My Mother the Car
re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
My Mother The Car 1x01 - Come Honk Your Horn https://t.co/8g34av0Tg2 via @YouTube
— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) May 14, 2019
re: #160 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
My Mother The Car 1x01 - Come Honk Your Horn
I’ve been floating a script for a remake based on a family that buys a SUV with a sat nav voice that speaks in the voice of the dead mother, a military veteran killed in Afghanistan…
Brexit weekly briefing: panic as Farage polls highest for EU elections
Having wreaked havoc on the local elections, Brexit looks set to do the same on the European elections: the latest polling for the Observer puts Nigel Farage’s Brexit party on 34% - more than Labour (21%) and the Tories (a catastrophic 11%) combined.
[…]
Labour, which launched its EU election campaign last week with Jeremy Corbyn continuing to resist pressure to declare the party for remain, is deeply split on holding a second referendum. Corbyn, the party leader, opposes it; others, including deputy leader Tom Watson, insist one would be needed for any deal to pass.
[…]
I can’t help but to think of Corbyn as being the biggest fool this side of May.
He’s probably counting on the idea that when the disasters that Brexit will bring come to pass, that somehow the masses will have to flock to Labour as their only hope.
But that is such a bad calculation… as Farage is already showing that the UK electorate is poised and willing to dump the old traditional parties in favor of new things.
Corbyn probably is just reflexively against declaring Labour as pro-Remain because there are Tories who are pro-Remain, and the last thing a purity-minded leftist can do is accept compromise with conservatives (who by American standards are really “moderates”.)
The Brexit debacle strikes me as all too similar to the League of Nations failure.
It is a joke that Britain is voting at all in the EU Parliamentary elections, and the voters are using it, as many of them did with a Brexit vote, to flip a big finger at the “powers-that-be”.
re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I’ve been floating a script for a remake based on a family that buys a SUV with a sat nav voice that speaks in the voice of the dead mother, a military veteran killed in Afghanistan…
The family should be MAGAts.
re: #165 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
The family should be MAGAts.
God-fearing White Christian Middle Americans in any case…
re: #69 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
SF writers often propose realignments of the major powers in the future. Right now, I’m seeing a Russia-USA alignment and a China-EU alignment, with India as a wild card. The UK is also a big question.
Wasn’t Jerry Pournelle’s “Co-Dominion” a joint USA-USSR realignment?
re: #166 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
God-fearing White Christian Middle Americans in any case…
With one kid who’s bisexual, and only grandma understands and is OK with it
re: #168 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
With one kid who’s bisexual, and only grandma understands and is OK with it
because the buddy she died trying to save in action was a transsexual…
re: #167 Feline Fearless Leader
Wasn’t Jerry Pournelle’s “Co-Dominion” a joint USA-USSR realignment?
I think so, though I’ve not read it. The US and Soviets did work together on Skylab-Soyuz, but it was a limited engagement.
re: #170 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
I think so, though I’ve not read it. The US and Soviets did work together on Skylab-Soyuz, but it was a limited engagement.
The current arrangement is not a political alignment, it is a hostile business takeover…
re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
because the buddy she died trying to save in action was a transsexual…
The networks will never pick it up. You need to pitch it to the web TV/ cable TV giants.
There’s a rather substantially populated genre of TV/cinema about communicating with the dead, reincarnation, etc.
It’s a challenge to think of a new twist. That is not necessary for success, if by “success” is meant just filling time on a TV station for which to sell advertisement.
But if you want to make a mark (like the big hits of the last couple of decades, like BB and GoT) then something new is needed.
re: #5 EPR-radar
I’m sure this filthy idea originated with Miller/Bannon. They probably want to start a fucking race war by sparking police riots in many cities at once.
If separating families and caging children hasn’t started a race war, nothing will, imho.
re: #136 ckkatz
A few scattered thoughts on the topics from above:
The year after Three Mile Island was the first year we had House Finches at our feeder. My mother thought that they looked like mutant sparrows, so we there after called them Three Mile Island Sparrows.
I remember going to Shippingport reactor in 1967 as part of a class trip.
I did some reading on DOE emergency publications at Hillman Library one evening. Up until Three Mile Island (TMI), most of the papers were on terrorist attacks against nuclear reactors. After TMI, they were on accidents at reactors.
An echo of your scattered topics:
Our Butler Co HS class got to tour Shippingport around 1961—the clarity of the water in the containment pool is the residual memory. They did let me take a 35mm, raising jokes about fogged film. (Our Physics class built and operated a desk-top X-ray from a Crooke’s tube, Ford spark coil, and window glass “shielding”. We imaged hardware, dead birds, and each other.)
I lived and worked close enough to TMI that Con Edison jacked our electric bill through the roof, then paid it back over a couple decades. The Army health physicists in our office all disappeared to Harrisburg for a month or so, some working as civilian contractors.
Army sent me to a Texas A&M radiological protection officer’s class just to learn enough to talk to the real pros on my ad hoc team. We were surveying all the units that had been to/brought back East Bloc crap from Desert Strorm.
Radiation is hard to stay away from.
BREAKING: Montana Gov. Steve Bullock announces bid for 2020 Democratic presidential nomination. https://t.co/dm8UHJLIzF
— The Associated Press (@AP) May 14, 2019
Authorities are flying and busing asylum seekers to cities around the US as shelters along the border struggle to accommodate the surge in migrants. https://t.co/A8k1LmV59e
— AP West Region (@APWestRegion) May 13, 2019
A man who weighs more than 900 pounds is set to be brought to federal court in Richmond on Monday, after the approval of a plan involving the FBI, the U.S. Marshals Service, the Richmond Ambulance Authority, the Henrico County Division of Fire, and state and local emergency personnel.
Kenneth T. Hicks, 48, of Emporia, who is charged in a cocaine conspiracy case, is scheduled to plead guilty before U.S. Magistrate Judge David J. Novak and could be taken into custody immediately. On Tuesday, Novak approved an unusual transportation plan for Hicks sought by the government and his lawyer in an effort to protect his health, safety and dignity.
The arrangements could involve cutting through a wall where he lives, bracing the structure and even cutting down some trees.
Court papers show that the alleged conspiracy to distribute and possess with the intent to distribute more than a pound of cocaine took place from 2013 into 2017.
moron is blathering on and on this morning about China, tariffs, steel, and Patriot Farmers.
So fucking clueless
heh
What an absolute and rare honour. Sir Isaac Newton passes through passport control after no doubt doing sciencey stuff abroad. Welcome home Sir. pic.twitter.com/oi96F9Yc0H
— Stansaid Airport (@StansaidAirport) May 14, 2019
re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth
Trump and his thugs could crucify an immigrant child every 50 yds along the Rio Grande and get nothing more than “concern” from the RW loyalists.
HOWEVER yesterday they did a fender-bender on the money flow—something that matters. Angst is spreading across the national fiscal conscience:
re: #180 Backwoods_Sleuth
moron is blathering on and on this morning about China, tariffs, steel, and Patriot Farmers.
So fucking clueless
Someone should ask him in the next (hah!) press conference what his opinion about teaching Arabic numbers to children in school is.
re: #180 Backwoods_Sleuth
moron is blathering on and on this morning about China, tariffs, steel, and Patriot Farmers.
So fucking clueless
Patriot Farmers. That sounds like something you would see in an autocracy. They’re just farmers damnit.
re: #184 HappyWarrior
Patriot Farmers. That sounds like something you would see in an autocracy. They’re just farmers damnit.
Are they “patriots” for not complaining loudly about being screwed over repeatedly by this administration?
#TommyRobinson enters the Old Bailey to chants of
“Tommy Robinson you disgrace,
Get a milkshake in your face”#StopNaziRobinson #StooFascistTommy pic.twitter.com/qRnMtFeSf2— Socialist Workers Party (@SWP_Britain) May 14, 2019
re: #179 Shropshire Slasher
A man who weighs more than 900 pounds is set to be brought to federal court in Richmond on Monday, after the approval of a plan involving the FBI, the U.S. Marshals Service, the Richmond Ambulance Authority, the Henrico County Division of Fire, and state and local emergency personnel.
Well, there’s one suspect, at least, who can’t be considered a “flight risk”.
Good morning, all!
re: #184 HappyWarrior
re: #185 Feline Fearless Leader
PATRIOT FARMERS!
TAKE INSPIRATION FROM THE STAKHANOVITE EXAMPLE OF YOUr COMRADES!
STRIVE MIGHTILY TO EXCEED THE QUOTA OF THE FIVE-YEAR BEET HARVEST! https://t.co/NAlmQQu44p— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) May 14, 2019
re: #185 Feline Fearless Leader
Are they “patriots” for not complaining loudly about being screwed over repeatedly by this administration?
Seems that way.
re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth
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I see Rick had the same thought I did. Trump acts very Stalinist. I don’t think Stalin called himself your favorite general secretary though.
**THUD**
Medical quackery or viable option? Ohio lawmakers pitch controversial abortion ‘reversal’ bill. https://t.co/HGI8vyV1kb
— Enquirer (@Enquirer) May 14, 2019
Literally what Trump is doing. Pumping money into the system to support farmers who now have no market for their crops without the federal government, while demanding that the Fed keep interest rates low. And he wants a “deal.”
Literally the same thing. https://t.co/IbwtDfGNBC— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) May 14, 2019
re: #14 Charles Johnson
It was a lot easier than DHS or ICE wanted to admit - all they had to do was raid all of Trump’s golf resorts. The number of undocumented workers would have been startling, but the reality is that the ones who should be perp walked are Trump’s own people for hiring them in the first place, and then systematically abusing undocumented workers to maximize Trump’s profits.
Cowards. Craven cowards who put party above nation and protect a criminally dangerous Trumpworld at all costs.
Instead of doing the right thing and demanding Trump end his idiotic trade wars, they’re backing him - and therefore support the same idiotic policies.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) May 14, 2019
re: #194 lawhawk
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re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth
Unfu…
Nope. Totally fucking believable. Yet another person with little national name recognition thinks that they should be president.
How about this - run for the goddamned US Senate to take back control from the craven GOP that has used their time in power to maximize the right wing extremists on the judiciary so that they can flip Roe, undermine civil and voting rights for generations to come, and yet all of these folks think that the Senate is an afterthought?
Fuck that. Buck up and do the right thing. The strategic plan is to win back the Senate to make sure that not only Trump loses, but that the Democrats have control of Senate in order to maximize the Democratic party agenda going forward.
The party can’t get out of its own way, and all these folks are egotistical to a fault. Vanity campaigns, instead of doing the hard work to win elections critical to overcoming the GOP roadblocks (or to presage impeachment/removal should Trump somehow manage to win in 2020).
“‘They stare at me at night’ the 3-year old daughter said, ‘They’re bad baby dolls.’” And that’s not even the creepiest thing at #Kentucky’s Home for Wayward Dolls. https://t.co/P7moimm7Zm via @PatMcdonogh pic.twitter.com/sUVXQ8x7uR
— Mike Trautmann (@Trautguy) May 14, 2019
another link:
kyforky.com
re: #162 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Corbyn is a well-known hardcore Left Euroskeptic. He’s been opposed to the EU for quite some time; he views it as a neoliberal capitalist project standing in the way of his Marxist proletarian utopia.
re: #108 gocart mozart
I love Sarah, but Schiff isn’t asking for people to tell him, he’s asking them to be curious.
re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth
I had written a reply that stated “ONLY HALF OF YOU WILL DIE FOR OUR GLORIOUS CAUSE!” But now I can’t get to my phone.
re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth
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At what point do politicians become guilty of practicing medicine without a license?
re: #202 Decatur Deb
At what point do politicians become guilty of practicing medicine without a license?
Even if it worked, a woman would have to swallow a pill, then leap up and shout, “Wait! I’ve changed my mind!” Or almost.
Morons indeed.
re: #198 Dr Lizardo
Corbyn is a well-known hardcore Left Euroskeptic. He’s been opposed to the EU for quite some time; he views it as a neoliberal capitalist project standing in the way of his Marxist proletarian utopia.
I really wish that Labour would find some reasonable ground between Blairite “New Labour” and Corbyn. I gotta admit though. I don’t know too much about Labour’s personalities to know who that individual would be but it’s kind of how I feel about the Dems. I think my ideal Dem is definitely something to the left of Bill Clinton but more economically pragmatic than Bernie Sanders. And yeah I know Bernie’s not a Dem.
re: #180 Backwoods_Sleuth
moron is blathering on and on this morning about China, tariffs, steel, and Patriot Farmers.
So fucking clueless
Patriot farmers?
You mean the ones who are getting hosed because they can’t sell their crops to *foreigners*?
re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth
heh
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re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth
The notion that women are so capricious and cavalier about pregnancy termination that they will suddenly decide, after they have initiated the process, that “oops, I really didn’t mean to do that” and will seek to undo it is mind-bogglingly idiotic and unrealistic. No woman should be subjected to this kind of delusional and abusive misinformation. If she is considering termination, she is already in a state of emotional turmoil and this is just punishment. I spent 30 years in women’s healthcare (most as an L&D nurse) and am enraged every time I read about some religious fanatic who tries to perpetrate such deceptive and destructive con games on women at their most vulnerable times.
re: #149 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Regarding the latest episode of GoT, two complaints:
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re: #184 HappyWarrior
Patriot Farmers. That sounds like something you would see in an autocracy. They’re just farmers damnit.
Maybe he means the border militias who detain and target immigrants. He probably thinks or wants them to be good old fashioned farmers.
re: #184 HappyWarrior
Patriot Farmers. That sounds like something you would see in an autocracy. They’re just farmers damnit.
Not every farmer can be a Patriot Farmer. Patriot Farmers donate yuuuuugely to the POTUS campaign.
I’ve been warning for years that the Republican Party was turning into the Soviet Communist Party.
Still don’t believe me?????????— The 3-D Zanti Regent (@josephebacon) May 14, 2019
re: #212 The Vicious Babushka
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I was wondering when Ginger Snapped was going to surface again…
Well Fuck… Malmö, Sweden. 2019.#NeverAgainIsNow https://t.co/kbWcgm7ah5
— 🐄 Teo 🐄 (@Teukka72) May 14, 2019
re: #207 Momkat56
The notion that women are so capricious and cavalier about pregnancy termination that they will suddenly decide, after they have initiated the process, that “oops, I really didn’t mean to do that” and will seek to undo it is mind-bogglingly idiotic and unrealistic. No woman should be subjected to this kind of delusional and abusive misinformation. If she is considering termination, she is already in a state of emotional turmoil and this is just punishment. I spent 30 years in women’s healthcare (most as an L&D nurse) and am enraged every time I read about some religious fanatic who tries to perpetrate such deceptive and destructive con games on women at their most vulnerable times.
it’s all about “women simply cant think or make decisions for themselves”
re: #206 The Vicious Babushka
I am not a fan of science fiction but I read this short story when I was a math major at ltu.edu thanks to a calculus professor who copied it from Omni and passed it out to the class. It’s about a time traveler who goes back to the 17th Century to offer Isaac Newton a pocket calculator, and he doesn’t accept the gift kindly.
Heh. I remember that story. A reminder that Newton, for all his intellectual gifts, was very much a man of his century (the Seventeenth)….
re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth
Literally what Trump is doing. Pumping money into the system to support farmers who now have no market for their crops without the federal government, while demanding that the Fed keep interest rates low. And he wants a “deal.”
you slapped on some tariffs
farmers cant sell their crops
so you’re gonna pay the farmers with money from the treasury
gasp
socialism
OT but I just got off the phone with yet another cousin. I always tell my distant cousins that I meet this: Your story is my story so I would be selfish not to share with you what I have and naturally people like that. I have now talked to descendants of all my paternal grandfather’s aunts and uncles and I still feel I have so much to learn and I have. My new cousins are thrilled to learn more about their family. We have a very unique surname so it’s always been intriguing to her but as she points out questions weren’t asked that much in those days. I did learn that my grandfather’s older cousin was an United States Army Cavalry officer based in Austin, Texas.
re: #211 Joe Bacon 🌹
Trump fashions himself to be Strelnikov.
Man, fuuuuuck Trump:
The bitter battle over the death penalty continued Monday at the U.S. Supreme Court with the highly unusual release of explanatory statements from the court’s conservatives as to why they reached such apparently contradictory decisions in two death cases in February and March.
On Feb. 7, the court ruled by a 5-4 vote that Alabama could go ahead with its execution of a Muslim prisoner convicted of murder. The newly energized five-man conservative majority overruled the temporary stay put in place by the lower court because Alabama allowed only a Christian minister in the execution room and refused to allow the condemned man’s imam to be present.
The decision was widely condemned by religious groups on the left and right, not to mention the blistering dissent from the court’s liberals, who called the decision “profoundly wrong.”
Then, just seven weeks later, the court stayed the execution of a Buddhist Texas death row inmate, who similarly claimed that he was denied the right to have his spiritual adviser in the death chamber. This time only two justices — Clarence Thomas and Neil Gorsuch — noted their dissents.
The two apparently conflicting decisions were so puzzling that they left even the lawyers involved in the cases scratching their heads.
They’re not conflicting at all when you understand that conservatives think Muslims are the scum of the earth. Fuck this shit, man.
re: #220 Eclectic Cyborg
Man, fuuuuuck Trump:
The bitter battle over the death penalty continued Monday at the U.S. Supreme Court with the highly unusual release of explanatory statements from the court’s conservatives as to why they reached such apparently contradictory decisions in two death cases in February and March.
On Feb. 7, the court ruled by a 5-4 vote that Alabama could go ahead with its execution of a Muslim prisoner convicted of murder. The newly energized five-man conservative majority overruled the temporary stay put in place by the lower court because Alabama allowed only a Christian minister in the execution room and refused to allow the condemned man’s imam to be present.The decision was widely condemned by religious groups on the left and right, not to mention the blistering dissent from the court’s liberals, who called the decision “profoundly wrong.”
Then, just seven weeks later, the court stayed the execution of a Buddhist Texas death row inmate, who similarly claimed that he was denied the right to have his spiritual adviser in the death chamber. This time only two justices — Clarence Thomas and Neil Gorsuch — noted their dissents.The two apparently conflicting decisions were so puzzling that they left even the lawyers involved in the cases scratching their heads.
They’re not conflicting at all when you understand that conservatives think Muslims are the scum of the earth. Fuck this shit, man.
This is why I want to smack Mike Pence when he claims Christians are being persecuted. No one and I mean no one would think twice about giving a Christian prisoner his chaplain in the death chamber. But yeah mother’s husband, it’s Christians who are mocked and persecuted.
re: #212 The Vicious Babushka
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I was going to post the same link. Nothing new in the article, but I’m always happy to see that the Rage Furby is referred to as a “Holocaust Denier.” Not a helpful tag in most circles. Well deserved in this case.
re: #219 lawhawk
Trump fashions himself to be Strelnikov.
“Billy Liar” seems the more apt Tom Courtenay role for him to be imitating.
re: #154 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Now that I think about it …
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Regarding the latest episode of GoT, two complaints:
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My comments — with book spoilers….
It’s GRRM’s fault for not finishing his series and allowing those hacks David and Dan to provide their own ending. Based on book prophecies, Cersei will be strangled — and it’s possible that Jamie will be the one to strangle her.
Brienne and Jamie will probably never hook up — in the novels, we last see Brienne taking Jamie to someone who intends to execute him.
Too bad it’s unlikely we will ever see George’s vision and are stuck with a version that butchers the original intent of the author.
A very significant update to this story coming that could prove troublesome to Wilbur Ross. Stay tuned. https://t.co/JVXQaicqv1
— Alexander Nazaryan (@alexnazaryan) May 14, 2019
So, got done watching parts 1 and 2 of Chernobyl.
Amazingly well-done. The constant sense of dread and foreboding (especially as we know what happened) makes for some pretty tense viewing.
One of my students from earlier today had already seen it; he called it “the best horror film” he’d seen in years (typically Czech black humor).
I have a feeling that Chernobyl is going to sweep the Emmys and maybe the Golden Globes as well.
re: #226 Dr Lizardo
So, got done watching parts 1 and 2 of Chernobyl.
Amazingly well-done. The constant sense of dread and foreboding (especially as we know what happened) makes for some pretty tense viewing.
One of my students from earlier today had already seen it; he called it “the best horror film” he’d seen in years (typically Czech black humor).
I have a feeling that Chernobyl is going to sweep the Emmys and maybe the Golden Globes as well.
It is so well done. I really want to learn more about Gorbachev’s deputy that went with Valery to Chernobyl. I also like how they explain the science.
How the flying fuck does Rage Furby get so much access to these people?
re: #228 Dr. Matt
How the flying fuck does Rage Furby get so much access to these people?
I imagine he has an influential patron.
re: #202 Decatur Deb
At what point do politicians become guilty of practicing medicine without a license?
How about a virginity recovery pill?
re: #228 Dr. Matt
How the flying fuck does Rage Furby get so much access to these people?
This is what I want to know.
re: #228 Dr. Matt
How the flying fuck does Rage Furby get so much access to these people?
my guess is Dana Rohrabacher
re: #227 HappyWarrior
It is so well done. I really want to learn more about Gorbachev’s deputy that went with Valery to Chernobyl. I also like how they explain the science.
Living here as I do in the eastern part of the Czech Republic, I’ve wondered in the past what would’ve happened if that anticipated radioactive steam explosion hadn’t been prevented.
Yeesh. It’s disturbing to think about. There’s a good chance (from what I can gather) that it’d have been the worst disaster in human history, leaving vast swathes of Eastern Europe essentially uninhabitable.
As it was, Eastern Czech Republic got a pretty good wallop of radioactive fallout from the Chernobyl disaster.
re: #223 Feline Fearless Leader
“Billy Liar” seems the more apt Tom Courtenay role for him to be imitating.
Can’t see Julie Christie offering to run off with Trump.
re: #233 Dr Lizardo
Living here as I do in the eastern part of the Czech Republic, I’ve wondered in the past what would’ve happened if that anticipated radioactive steam explosion hadn’t been prevented.
Yeesh. It’s disturbing to think about. There’s a good chance (from what I can gather) that it’d have been the worst disaster in human history, leaving vast swathes of Eastern Europe essentially uninhabitable.
As it was, Eastern Czech Republic got a pretty good wallop of radioactive fallout from the Chernobyl disaster.
I’ve been enjoying talking ot our own Tek about it. I really had no idea about how widespread it was.
re: #234 Decatur Deb
Can’t see Julie Christie offering to run off with Trump.
Well, it’s Trump thinking he’s Courtenay and that thus any attractive woman would want him.
re: #212 The Vicious Babushka
Johnson’s current occupation is unclear, though he told Yahoo News he wants to be called an “entrepreneur.” The substance of his present-day entrepreneurial activity is unknown.
Cannon, comma, loose.
re: #230 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
How about a virginity recovery pill?
Bristolin Sulfate. Bad side effects.
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Fox News is a hate-for-profit racket that gives a megaphone to racists and conspiracists—it’s designed to turn us against each other, risking life and death consequences, to provide cover for the corruption that’s rotting our government and hollowing out our middle class.
— Elizabeth Warren (@ewarren) May 14, 2019
I’m hoping all of the Dem candidates are ready to eliminate these stupid tariffs as soon as they get into office.
re: #239 I Would Prefer Not To
Well, darn. I will touch my friend again….
BTW, why is this story being written now about Rage Furby? It deals with stuff from 2016 to 2018. Did I miss something else?
re: #241 Eclectic Cyborg
I’m hoping all of the Dem candidates are ready to eliminate these stupid tariffs as soon as they get into office.
I hope so.
re: #242 Decatur Deb
Guess she’s not a fan.
She probably didn’t want to endure 90 minutes of white people directing Indian war whoops at her.
re: #246 Eclectic Cyborg
She probably didn’t want to endure 90 minutes of white people directing Indian war whoops at her.
I don’t blame her. Fuck FNC.
I’m sure Fox News will take being called a hate-for-profit racket in stride, and not immediate set out to underline the point Warren made.
re: #226 Dr Lizardo
It’s indeed well done, and Scherbina goes from being a bad guy to realizing just how fucked everything is, and that they have to act quickly.
I think the female physicist is an amalgam of several people, but she was correct in identifying the problem with the water collecting under the reactor and that if the core melted through, it would have caused a massive steam explosion sufficient to not only irradiate the entire region, but cause the other two reactors to blow up as well.
Particularly harrowing - getting someone with a dosimeter to scout out the plant, and they came back with not 3 rads, but 15000 rads. They burned out all the dosimeters, and the officials thought the dosimeters were wrong/broken because they either maxed out, failed due being overwhelmed, or that they assumed things that weren’t true.
It’s horrifying to know how close we came to a worst case scenario disaster beyond what we know actually happened there. Heck, the local heads of the power plant tried to bullshit their way through about the extent of the damage - and got called on it about how and why parts of the reactor core were all over the roof of the building if the reactor didn’t blow up (why it did is a mystery to those in the actual timeline - we now have a better understanding of what happened - but they needed to stop the radiation dumping into the atmosphere, and to stop another steam explosion from happening).
It’s also horrifying to know that we’re likely to see similar disaster responses in other areas because those in charge refuse to accept facts as they come in, ignore warnings, etc. That’s what Max Brooks takes on in World War Z and now in Germ Warfare (his new graphic novel).
re: #248 jaunte
I’m sure Fox News will take being called a hate-for-profit racket in stride, and not immediate set out to underline the point Warren made.
Bring out Tucker Carlson who is about as working class as a Polo match followed by bridge to call Warren an elitist?
re: #226 Dr Lizardo
So, got done watching parts 1 and 2 of Chernobyl.
Amazingly well-done. The constant sense of dread and foreboding (especially as we know what happened) makes for some pretty tense viewing.
One of my students from earlier today had already seen it; he called it “the best horror film” he’d seen in years (typically Czech black humor).
I have a feeling that Chernobyl is going to sweep the Emmys and maybe the Golden Globes as well.
I would say that that it is worthy of at least one award. And as to horror, the best nightmare fuel is where you know how thin wall between the story and reality there is. Or if there isn’t one at all. Like, I watch Chernobyl and apart from cringing and shuddering when they bullseye the accuracy without any nerfing, I simply nod and go “Yup. Got that right.”
A word of warning though. At some point, they will cover Acute Radiation Syndrome. That won’t be easy watching, at least not for me, knowing what I know.
re: #227 HappyWarrior
It is so well done. I really want to learn more about Gorbachev’s deputy that went with Valery to Chernobyl. I also like how they explain the science.
Simple, yet accurate. When appropriate, use analogies/parables. Legasov, the real Valery Alekseyevich, was a master at it, at least when it came to describing why Unit IV flipped its lid…
re: #233 Dr Lizardo
Living here as I do in the eastern part of the Czech Republic, I’ve wondered in the past what would’ve happened if that anticipated radioactive steam explosion hadn’t been prevented.
Yeesh. It’s disturbing to think about. There’s a good chance (from what I can gather) that it’d have been the worst disaster in human history, leaving vast swathes of Eastern Europe essentially uninhabitable.
As it was, Eastern Czech Republic got a pretty good wallop of radioactive fallout from the Chernobyl disaster.
During that period, a friend and her family were living in Amsterdam while her husband was working on a joint venture with a Dutch firm on behalf of his employer. A lifetime non-smoker, my friend passed way about 15 years ago from lung cancer; I always wondered if she were another victim from the Chernobyl accident.
re: #249 lawhawk
It’s indeed well done, and Scherbina goes from being a bad guy to realizing just how fucked everything is, and that they have to act quickly.
I think the female physicist is an amalgam of several people, but she was correct in identifying the problem with the water collecting under the reactor and that if the core melted through, it would have caused a massive steam explosion sufficient to not only irradiate the entire region, but cause the other two reactors to blow up as well.
Particularly harrowing - getting someone with a dosimeter to scout out the plant, and they came back with not 3 rads, but 15000 rads. They burned out all the dosimeters, and the officials thought the dosimeters were wrong/broken because they either maxed out, failed due being overwhelmed, or that they assumed things that weren’t true.
It’s horrifying to know how close we came to a worst case scenario disaster beyond what we know actually happened there. Heck, the local heads of the power plant tried to bullshit their way through about the extent of the damage - and got called on it about how and why parts of the reactor core were all over the roof of the building if the reactor didn’t blow up (why it did is a mystery to those in the actual timeline - we now have a better understanding of what happened - but they needed to stop the radiation dumping into the atmosphere, and to stop another steam explosion from happening).
It’s also horrifying to know that we’re likely to see similar disaster responses in other areas because those in charge refuse to accept facts as they come in, ignore warnings, etc. That’s what Max Brooks takes on in World War Z and now in Germ Warfare (his new graphic novel).
The Belorussian official. His smug reaction when she reminds him that she’s a scientist and he was working in a shoe factory. You need a government that runs on merit. To me, I’m seeing the story as the fallacy of what happens when you only have your ideology to guide you and this case it was Soviet Communism but it could just as easily been Capitalism.
re: #249 lawhawk
Yeah, there was definitely a strong sense of denial, especially in the first few hours after the explosion happened. The scene with that engineer walking through the corridor strewn with broken glass and clearly able to see graphite chunks all over the place - and then denying it only a few hours later.
also they can just tweet and facebook and reach millions of people. its 2019, ffs.
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) May 14, 2019
If you are on the “Side of Trump” that makes you an idol worshiper. The Torah does not mince words when it comes to idolatry.
Friedman: Israel has a secret weapon. It is on the side of God.
— Tovah Lazaroff (@tovahlazaroff) May 14, 2019
re: #253 jaunte
*Seth Meyers Wealthy Laugh*
Seriously Tucker acting like he’s a working class guy is hilarious. My mom’s father was working class. He never lost his Western Pennsylvania accent and worked outside. Tucker? Tucker’s the kind of guy that doesn’t like to touch dirt.
re: #257 The Vicious Babushka
If you are on the “Side of Trump” that makes you an idol worshiper. The Torah does not mince words when it comes to idolatry.
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I think it goes beyond mere worshiping of idols, maybe even beyond humping them… *cough*
re: #257 The Vicious Babushka
If you are on the “Side of Trump” that makes you an idol worshiper. The Torah does not mince words when it comes to idolatry.
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Everyone thinks they’re on the side of God or some higher power.
re: #227 HappyWarrior
It is so well done. I really want to learn more about Gorbachev’s deputy that went with Valery to Chernobyl. I also like how they explain the science.
Love the actors in both those roles, too.
re: #229 HappyWarrior
I imagine he has an
influentialaffluent patron.
re: #261 Sir John Barron
Love the actors in both those roles, too.
I like how it doesn’t have star power. I’ve seen the actress that plays the physicist. She played Angela in Angela’s Ashes and I believe the guy playing Valery was in Lincoln but the others I don’t know.
re: #252 Hecuba’s daughter
During that period, a friend and her family were living in Amsterdam while her husband was working on a joint venture with a Dutch firm on behalf of his employer. A lifetime non-smoker, my friend passed way about 15 years ago from lung cancer; I always wondered if she were another victim from the Chernobyl accident.
One of my students has had persistent health issues, issues associated with exposure to higher than normal levels of radiation.
Not only that, but as an American friend of mine who visited me a few years back noted, there’s a “helluva lot” of birth defects in this region - considerably higher than average. I once asked another student of mine, a cardiac surgeon, about that - and he said that in his opinion, it’s related to Chernobyl fallout. His view was that the former Communist government here simply swept the whole affair under the carpet, saying it was “nothing to worry about”.
re: #248 jaunte
I’m sure Fox News will take being called a hate-for-profit racket in stride, and not immediate set out to underline the point Warren made.
Fox spokes-bigot: Pocahontas called us racisss.
Yeah, that’s not happening.
The GOP has shown that they put party above nation repeatedly, and Biden’s going to repeat the worst mistakes made by Obama - namely trusting GOPers to do right thing for nation.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) May 14, 2019
LOL in a pig’s eye! #TheResistance #Resist https://t.co/rK0qCQ9CPe
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) May 14, 2019
re: #176 Decatur Deb
An echo of your scattered topics:
Our Butler Co HS class got to tour Shippingport around 1961—the clarity of the water in the containment pool is the residual memory. They did let me take a 35mm, raising jokes about fogged film. (Our Physics class built and operated a desk-top X-ray from a Crooke’s tube, Ford spark coil, and window glass “shielding”. We imaged hardware, dead birds, and each other.)
I lived and worked close enough to TMI that Con Edison jacked our electric bill through the roof, then paid it back over a couple decades. The Army health physicists in our office all disappeared to Harrisburg for a month or so, some working as civilian contractors.
Army sent me to a Texas A&M radiological protection officer’s class just to learn enough to talk to the real pros on my ad hoc team. We were surveying all the units that had been to/brought back East Bloc crap from Desert Strorm.
Radiation is hard to stay away from.
Reminded me of the snarky line which we used to offer our CBR Officers (Chemical-Biological-Radiation) ‘Many Glowing Reports’.
Yes, one of the things from the Shippingport tour that sticks in my mind was how crystal clear the containment pool was. The other was how clean and neatly maintained the grounds around the building were. This being near Pittsburgh, where such things were not always a priority.
I was in a National Guard unit at summer training doing our unit readiness test (ARTEP) when the Iraqis invaded Kuwait. The 82nd Airborne’s non-ready brigade provided the evaluators. At 2400hrs the evaluators were all there. At 0500, they were all gone. Took us a couple of days to line up alternative evaluators. By that point, I assume that our former evaluators were on their way to Saudi.
re: #254 HappyWarrior
The Belorussian official. His smug reaction when she reminds him that she’s a scientist and he was working in a shoe factory. You need a government that runs on merit. To me, I’m seeing the story as the fallacy of what happens when you only have your ideology to guide you and this case it was Soviet Communism but it could just as easily been Capitalism.
The need to have the bottom line meet or exceed expectations — the need to meet corporate goals for personal bonuses — the need to outsell your competitors— all behaviors under capitalism that could lead to similar catastrophes.
re: #266 Colère Tueur de Lapin
Fox spoke-bigot: Pocahontas called us racisss.
“This is just further proof that the Democrat Party’s far-left candidates can’t handle hard questions or deal with moderate voters!”
“Perhaps she’s afraid somebody in the audience will ask her if she still believes she’s a Native American? Doesn’t want to be seen on live TV admitting she lied!”
And the beat goes on….
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re: #264 HappyWarrior
I like how it doesn’t have star power. I’ve seen the actress that plays the physicist. She played Angela in Angela’s Ashes and I believe the guy playing Valery was in Lincoln but the others I don’t know.
The Russian official stellasgard(sp) has been in a lot of stuff, but at the same time, not really a leading man type.
re: #249 lawhawk
It’s indeed well done, and Scherbina goes from being a bad guy to realizing just how fucked everything is, and that they have to act quickly.
I think the female physicist is an amalgam of several people, but she was correct in identifying the problem with the water collecting under the reactor and that if the core melted through, it would have caused a massive steam explosion sufficient to not only irradiate the entire region, but cause the other two reactors to blow up as well.
Particularly harrowing - getting someone with a dosimeter to scout out the plant, and they came back with not 3 rads, but 15000 rads. They burned out all the dosimeters, and the officials thought the dosimeters were wrong/broken because they either maxed out, failed due being overwhelmed, or that they assumed things that weren’t true.
It’s horrifying to know how close we came to a worst case scenario disaster beyond what we know actually happened there. Heck, the local heads of the power plant tried to bullshit their way through about the extent of the damage - and got called on it about how and why parts of the reactor core were all over the roof of the building if the reactor didn’t blow up (why it did is a mystery to those in the actual timeline - we now have a better understanding of what happened - but they needed to stop the radiation dumping into the atmosphere, and to stop another steam explosion from happening).
It’s also horrifying to know that we’re likely to see similar disaster responses in other areas because those in charge refuse to accept facts as they come in, ignore warnings, etc. That’s what Max Brooks takes on in World War Z and now in Germ Warfare (his new graphic novel).
That 3 to 15k rads jump would give a sickening feeling even if fully protected from radiation. Like the first responders to the SL-1 accident, I’ve seen one of them recall how they began going up the stairs and their Geiger counter went *clink* as the needle slammed into the end pin. Not a sound you want to hear when responding to a radiation incident, especially not with a standard civil defence issue meter (which are insensitive). And yeah, the crew retreated and regrouped.
And they went into the same routine as the liquidators a little more than 25 years later, giving recovery/salvage/sanitization workers a given time to perform a task, each task divided into 60 second chunks. Some parts of the recovery were done with improvized equipment, such as the recovery of the guy who was impaled into the ceiling of the reactor building by a control rod.
The accident was later determined to have occured because that crew member had for some reason removed the control rod too far, causing such a criticality and power power surge that the reactor jumped some 2 meters into the air from the water/steam hammer. The “one stuck rod criterion” is one of the legacies of the accident in Western reactor design.
I can dig up movies about reactor pulsing and surge tests if you want, if you need something tangible to convey the incredible power even a small reactor can emit.
re: #267 lawhawk
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The GOP will have an epiphany…that suddenly investigating the DNC in general and Biden in particular for everything under the sun is the way to go.
re: #273 Sir John Barron
The Russian official stellasgard(sp) has been in a lot of stuff, but at the same time, not really a leading man type.
Stellan Skarsgård. Character is Boris Scherbina.
re: #201 Belafon
I had written a reply that stated “ONLY HALF OF YOU WILL DIE FOR OUR GLORIOUS CAUSE!” But now I can’t get to my phone.
The comment reminded me of a factoid that the Soviet classes of 1940 and 1941. (Boys who turned 18 in 1940 or 1941, and were drafted for two years of active service in 1940 or 1941.)
Each of those two class as a whole, iirc, had a casualty rate of 90%. Normally, one assumes at least 2to1/injured to killed. But in this case the Nazis took most of them prisoner and subsequently murdered them. Basically, every healthy boy born in the Soviet Union in 1922 or 1923 was dead by 1945.
re: #273 Sir John Barron
The Russian official stellasgard(sp) has been in a lot of stuff, but at the same time, not really a leading man type.
Yeah I know the name. Believe his son is Pennywise in the IT reboot.
Trump / Mazars lawsuit:
MEHTA: “Say for example if a president had a financial interest in a particular piece of legislation that was being considered … in your view Congress could not investigate whether a president has a conflict of interest?
CONSOVOY: “It would lack legitimate legislative purpose.”— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) May 14, 2019
The main argument of Trump’s team is that the Oversight Committee subpoena of Trump’s financial records is meant as a “law enforcement” effort, rather than a legislative one. Mehta doesn’t seem to be buying it.
— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) May 14, 2019
re: #277 ckkatz
The comment reminded me of a factoid that the Soviet classes of 1940 and 1941. (Boys who turned 18 in 1940 or 1941, and were drafted for two years of active service in 1940 or 1941.)
Each of those two class as a whole, iirc, had a casualty rate of 90%. Normally, one assumes at least 2to1/injured to killed. But in this case the Nazis took most of them prisoner and subsequently murdered them. Basically, every healthy boy born in the Soviet Union in 1922 or 1923 was dead by 1945.
Just like the graduating classes of Oxford, Heidelberg and the Sorbonne in 1914. All sent out as junior officers with pistols or swagger sticks into enemy barbed wire and machine guns. 90% casualty rate.
re: #270 Hecuba’s daughter
The need to have the bottom line meet or exceed expectations — the need to meet corporate goals for personal bonuses — the need to outsell your competitors— all behaviors under capitalism that could lead to similar catastrophes.
Yes.
“They’re just trying to enforce the law, Judge; that’s not legal!”
re: #277 ckkatz
The comment reminded me of a factoid that the Soviet classes of 1940 and 1941. (Boys who turned 18 in 1940 or 1941, and were drafted for two years of active service in 1940 or 1941.)
Each of those two class as a whole, iirc, had a casualty rate of 90%. Normally, one assumes at least 2to1/injured to killed. But in this case the Nazis took most of them prisoner and subsequently murdered them. Basically, every healthy boy born in the Soviet Union in 1922 or 1923 was dead by 1945.
To this day, that part of Europe has a huge gender imbalance.
Little raises the example of the Presidential Records Act as an example of how Congress can regulate the president to counter Consovoy’s arguments. For many years presidents destroyed records. “We learned from Nixon that that was no good,” Little said.
— Britain Eakin (@BritainEakin) May 14, 2019
Little gives an example of what Congress can look into: Whether Trump removed himself from the Trump International Hotel lease, or is profiting from it. “Clearly Congress can look into that.”
— Britain Eakin (@BritainEakin) May 14, 2019
re: #282 jaunte
“They’re just trying to enforce the law, Judge; that’s not legal!”
Nah, it’s more “The legislature can’t check to see if the Chief of Police is corrupt, that’s the job of the police department!”
re: #278 HappyWarrior
Yeah I know the name. Believe his son is Pennywise in the IT reboot.
That’s him. He also plays the creepy fucker in Castle Rock.
re: #272 Big Black Mariah
And the beat goes on….
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Pretty remarkable —>
The deputy commander of the US-led coalition against ISIS says “there has been no increased threat from Iranian backed forces in Iraq or Syria.”
UK Maj. Gen. Chris Ghika told reporters “we don’t see an increased theat from many of them at this stage.”— Jeremy Diamond (@JDiamond1) May 14, 2019
re: #290 HappyWarrior
Trump busily dismantling alliances.
re: #214 Teukka
I have read a number of reports of anti-Semitic incidents in Malmö. I do not know how accurate the reports are, nor how fully they represent the atmosphere in the town. Nor have I been following the situation there closely. Most of the reports, that I have read, seem to have occurred in 2009-2012 time frame, though.
“Malmö is a place to move away from, right now many Jews in Malmö are really concerned about the situation and don’t believe they have a future here” he said, citing antisemitism as the primary reason. The Malmö Synagogue suffered arson attacks in 2010 and 2012.
The Swedish newspaper Skånska Dagbladet reported that attacks on Jews in Malmö totaled 79 in 2009, about twice as many as the previous year, according to police statistics. In December 2010, the Jewish human rights organization Simon Wiesenthal Center issued a travel advisory concerning Sweden, advising Jews to express “extreme caution” when visiting the southern parts of the country due to an increase in verbal and physical harassment of Jewish citizens in the city of Malmö. However, the leader of the Jewish congregation would have liked the center to consult them before issuing the warning. Fred Khan, the congregation’s chairman told Sydvenska Dagbladet suggested that the rise in the crime statistics might not reflect an actual increase in crimes endured by the community over the proceeding year. Members of the congregation do face harassment, but a substantial degree of the incidents remain unreported to the police. In the last year members of the community had been more strongly advised to report all abuse to the police. On June 8, 2012, antisemitic graffiti was spray-painted on the external wall of the old Jewish cemetery in Malmö. The graffiti reads “A PIG” in Swedish (en gris) and a swastika. On September 28, same year, an explosion occurred at a Malmö Jewish community building.
The darkly humorous thing to me listening to the Mueller Report is that it seems to me Trump brought the entire Mueller appointment on himself through his paranoia about the original FBI investigation.
The half-assed logic of Trump’s lawyers is that all matters of law enforcement at the federal level fall under the purview of the DOJ, that Congress cannot engage in any investigation that is for the purpose of enforcing the laws of the nation. This is for the purpose of arguing that Mueller “exonerated” Donny, so Congress looking into the matter is an unconstitutional violation of the Separation of Powers. It’s also why Barr has barked about it being “his” Report and how the decision over obstruction was “his” to make.
re: #294 Targetpractice
The half-assed logic of Trump’s lawyers is that all matters of law enforcement at the federal level fall under the purview of the DOJ, that Congress cannot engage in any investigation that is for the purpose of enforcing the laws of the nation. This is for the purpose of arguing that Mueller “exonerated” Donny, so Congress looking into the matter is an unconstitutional violation of the Separation of Powers. It’s also why Barr has barked about it being “his” Report and how the decision over obstruction was “his” to make.
It’s far from an exoneration as can be imo.
Republicans are what happens when those who Govern stop working for the people who elected them and only work for themselves.
re: #229 HappyWarrior
I imagine he has an influential patron.
Useful idiots are always useful to someone.
re: #296 Eclectic Cyborg
Republicans are what happens when those who Govern stop working for the people who elected them and only work for themselves.
Yep.
re: #268 The Vicious Babushka
In New Hampshire, Joe Biden predicts that once President Trump is out of office, Republicans will have “an epiphany” and work with Democrats toward consensus.
You mean the same GOP that cooperated with Obama all those years before Trump was President? You mean the same GOP that blocked Merrick Garland? No — the modern GOP is only interested in serving its donor class, especially Putin.
re: #276 Teukka
Stellan Skarsgård. Character is Boris Scherbina.
Bootstrap Bill!
(I get him and Peter Stormare confused all the time as well.)
Another observation but Trump has continued to insist no collusion as we know. I think he has no idea that collusion isn’t a crime but what he I think did do, conspiracy is. Definitely did obstruct. And he did everything to derail the investigation.
re: #299 Hecuba’s daughter
You mean the same GOP that cooperated with Obama all those years before Trump was President? You mean the same GOP that blocked Merrick Garland? No — the modern GOP is only interested in serving its donor class, especially Putin.
Biden is so naive sometimes in his faith in Republicans. I like the man but you are naive, Joe.
re: #268 The Vicious Babushka
That’s an idiotic comment for someone who saw up close what Republicans did to President Obama.
This is like a bad episode of the old Jerry Springer show:
Trump whines about his son facing a subpoena — and refuses to say if he still has confidence in his FBI chief https://t.co/oj6EEldftl
— Raw Story (@RawStory) May 14, 2019
The reason I say that is because it’s become almost a media spectacle to sit around and see if Donny will shit-can another member of his administration because he “lacked confidence in them.”
JFC
Trump praises Orban as ‘tough’ defender of Christians https://t.co/Tohpc4nOe7 pic.twitter.com/8ahUI3mlsR
— JTA | Jewish news (@JTAnews) May 14, 2019
re: #303 Patricia Kayden
That’s an idiotic comment for someone who saw up close what Republicans did to President Obama.
I think he figures there won’t be hostility to him since he’s a white guy.
re: #296 Eclectic Cyborg
Republicans are what happens when those who Govern stop working for the people who elected them and only work for themselves.
They work for the wealthy donors who elected for them. The Deplorables haven’t quite figured that out as yet.
re: #305 The Vicious Babushka
JFC
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re: #304 Targetpractice
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The reason I say that is because it’s become almost a media spectacle to sit around and see if Donny will shit-can another member of his administration because he “lacked confidence in them.”
He’s doing the same thing he did to Mueller. Obstruct and obstruct more.
Tim Conway passed.
re: #303 Patricia Kayden
That’s an idiotic comment for someone who saw up close what Republicans did to President Obama.
It’s the sort of comment one expects from an old-line Democrat. Joe may look relatively youthful compared to some of his former colleagues, but he first took office as a “young” Senator in the Class of ‘72. He cut his teeth at the federal level back in the days when both parties might throw barbed insults in public, but in private would share drinks and make deals in smoke-filled backrooms. He’s very much a Dem in the mold of LBJ, a guy who today would have had to fight tooth and nail just to extend SS benefits to “coloreds.”
One thing I forgot to mention about the Chernobyl miniseries is a little detail: The way they handled the reactor explosion.
In many other films (I’m looking at you, Michael Bay) it would’ve been some elaborate CGI boom-fest.
Not on this. It’s seen in the distance through a living room window. And then a couple seconds, the sound and the shockwave hits.
Perfectly done.
re: #311 Targetpractice
It’s the sort of comment one expects from an old-line Democrat. Joe may look relatively youthful compared to some of his former colleagues, but he first took office as a “young” Senator in the Class of ‘72. He cut his teeth at the federal level back in the days when both parties might throw barbed insults in public, but in private would share drinks and make deals in smoke-filled backrooms. He’s very much a Dem in the mold of LBJ, a guy who today would have had to fight tooth and nail just to extend SS benefits to “coloreds.”
Yep.
Keeps on coming up but Trump saw Sessions’ job as being his protector. I think that gives you insight to Barr’s behavior.
re: #304 Targetpractice
This is like a bad episode of the old Jerry Springer show:
Complete with angry, fighting Nazis.
re: #314 HappyWarrior
Keeps on coming up but Trump saw Sessions’ job as being his protector. I think that gives you insight to Barr’s behavior.
Trump thinks all departments of government exist to serve the President.
re: #316 Eclectic Cyborg
Trump thinks all departments of government exist to serve the President.
Yes but specifically AG. It comes up over and over again he thought Holder and RFK were Obama and JFK’s protectors. I have no doubt Trump obstructed justice. I’m not sure if he conspired with the Russians directly or not but I think he obstructed the ability to find if he did too.
— David S. Joachim (@davidjoachim) May 14, 2019
He also repeatedly lied about the circumstances of Comey’s firing.
Sorry for the “live tweeting” but it’s really interesting to hear/read this.
re: #320 HappyWarrior
He also repeatedly lied about the circumstances of Comey’s firing.
He repeatedly lies about almost everything.
But you’re right, the Comey thing was pretty Egregious.
re: #322 Eclectic Cyborg
He repeatedly lies about almost everything.
But you’re right, the Comey thing was pretty Egregious.
Yep. Sorry yeah he does lie about everything but lying about the circumstances of Comey’s canning is different than his lies about his victory.
re: #323 HappyWarrior
Yep. Sorry yeah he does lie about everything but lying about the circumstances of Comey’s canning is different than his lies about his victory.
And the size of his inaugural crowd.
I still can’t get over how that was handled.
re: #324 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
And the size of his inaugural crowd.
I still can’t get over how that was handled.
Right. I mean not to dismiss those lies but he has lied repeatedly to the American people about the investigations and not once admitted he was wrong.
re: #324 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
And the size of his inaugural crowd.
I still can’t get over how that was handled.
I can.
This is a guy who cheats at golf, and tries to cheat when facing Tiger Woods. Or a member at one of his resorts, when his kid beats Trump solidly - Trump goes and takes the kid’s ball and claims it as his own.
The rules for dealing with Trump as they should be:
Rule 1: Trump is a fucking liar.
Rule 2: see Rule 1.
The media keeps trying to ascribe that Trump can tell the truth. They give him benefit of doubt. They make excuses. They enable his exaggerations, lies, deflections, and think it’s all normal.
None of this is normal. It’s the behavior of a sociopath and a liar (as well as a bigot).
re: #325 HappyWarrior
Right. I mean not to dismiss those lies but he has lied repeatedly to the American people about the investigations and not once admitted he was wrong.
The inauguration was the first real example of people staring at photographic evidence and just shaking their heads and saying “nuh-unh!” and nobody taking them to task for it.
and when they saw what sort of absolute negations of reality they could get away with, they turned it up past 11.
Thank you Ron DeSantis.
Hillary Clinton won Florida.
Now let’s find out which other states she won.#TheResistance #TrumpRussia #MSNBC @HillaryClinton @realDonaldTrump— Evan (@EBoyajy) May 14, 2019
re: #327 lawhawk
I can.
This is a guy who cheats at golf, and tries to cheat when facing Tiger Woods. Or a member at one of his resorts, when his kid beats Trump solidly - Trump goes and takes the kid’s ball and claims it as his own.
The rules for dealing with Trump as they should be:
Rule 1: Trump is a fucking liar.
Rule 2: see Rule 1.The media keeps trying to ascribe that Trump can tell the truth. They give him benefit of doubt. They make excuses. They enable his exaggerations, lies, deflections, and think it’s all normal.
None of this is normal. It’s the behavior of a sociopath and a liar (as well as a bigot).
I think he means how the lies were handled by the media not that he lied about his crowd size. That said, the media did call out a lot of it which ended up being material for Melissa McCarthy’s famous Spicy Spicer.
re: #329 The Vicious Babushka
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re: #324 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
And the size of his inaugural crowd.
I still can’t get over how that was handled.
re: #328 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The inauguration was the first real example of people staring at photographic evidence and just shaking their heads and saying “nuh-unh!” and nobody taking them to task for it.
and when they saw what sort of absolute negations of reality they could get away with, they turned it up past 11.
I’m aware of why that lie was awful. I’m also aware that lie is immaterial to why he should be impeached or charged with obstruction of justice too.
re: #332 DangerMan
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‘Alternative Facts’: The Needless Lies of the Trump Administration
If the president and his aides will tell easily disproven falsehoods about crowd sizes and speeches, what else will they be willing to dissemble about?
i guess now we know
re: #317 HappyWarrior
Yes but specifically AG. It comes up over and over again he thought Holder and RFK were Obama and JFK’s protectors. I have no doubt Trump obstructed justice. I’m not sure if he conspired with the Russians directly or not but I think he obstructed the ability to find if he did too.
It depends how narrowly you define “conspired”.
He knew the general outlines of what Russia was up to, and knew it was intended to benefit his campaign. He set out to amplify it as much as he could. But the Russians knew he and his team were idiots, and didn’t include him in the planning.
He knew enough about it to realize a thorough investigation and public airing of the results would delegitimize his “great victory”… which is why he first denied stuff he knew was true, and then obstructed as much as he could any efforts for any of his opposition to find the truth.
Trump was obsessed with the public thinking he wasn’t personally wasn’t under investigation prior to firing Comey. And he was equally obsessed with Sessions being loyal to him. The lies about his victory and crowd size say a lot about him but they’re not related directly to the reasons he needs to go.
re: #333 HappyWarrior
I’m aware of why that lie was awful. I’m also aware that lie is immaterial to why he should be impeached or charged with obstruction of justice too.
It is immaterial, but it shows how disconnected we have become with objective reality, by which, Trump should have been put up for conflicts of interest, violations of the emoluments clause and obstruction of justice long ago.
JFC
Please comment with support for my 11-year-old daughter. She was removed from class and sent to the principal’s office for the rest of the day last Thursday for shouting, “Stop it, put your hands down now,” to a group of students giving the Nazi salute. pic.twitter.com/9d9LpI5V5r
— Keith Jacks Gamble (@KeithJGamble) May 14, 2019
re: #335 sagehen
It depends how narrowly you define “conspired”.
He knew the general outlines of what Russia was up to, and knew it was intended to benefit his campaign. He set out to amplify it as much as he could. But the Russians knew he and his team were idiots, and didn’t include him in the planning.
He knew enough about it to realize a thorough investigation and public airing of the results would delegitimize his “great victory”… which is why he first denied stuff he knew was true, and then obstructed as much as he could any efforts for any of his opposition to find the truth.
Correct. I just think obstruction is easier to prove than conspiracy. I think there’s more beyond a reasonable doubt for obstruction and conspiracy has more preponderance of evidence. But that doesn’t mean I think conspiracy shouldn’t be investigated further.
re: #329 The Vicious Babushka
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The fact that the Russians got in doesn’t mean they changed the vote totals. HRC lost Florida by tens of thousands of votes.
— Kurt Akemann (@Dark_Falcon7) May 14, 2019
re: #338 The Vicious Babushka
JFC
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Why do so many people think Nazi salutes are funny? Fucking alt Right and their “humor.”
re: #340 sagehen
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Yeah fuck him. If Russia interfered for Clinton, he would be wanting a war with Russia for “honor.”
re: #328 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The inauguration was the first real example of people staring at photographic evidence and just shaking their heads and saying “nuh-unh!” and nobody taking them to task for it.
and when they saw what sort of absolute negations of reality they could get away with, they turned it up past 11.
Wait a second. They got a raft of shit for the lies about the inauguration. Spicer caught shit for days about it.
I realize that the media does a lot of equivocating re Trump. But you won’t find a news org outside of Fox or OANN that will say that inauguration was the biggest in history.
re: #338 The Vicious Babushka
Please comment with support for my 11-year-old daughter. She was removed from class and sent to the principal’s office for the rest of the day last Thursday for shouting, “Stop it, put your hands down now,” to a group of students giving the Nazi salute.
I would like to hear and read more about this case, but has it come to the point that asking Nazis not to give Hitler salutes is considered an affront to Free Speech?
re: #337 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It is immaterial, but it shows how disconnected we have become with objective reality, by which, Trump should have been put up for conflicts of interest, violations of the emoluments clause and obstruction of justice long ago.
I agree. I’m just going strictly by the book or report here.
re: #340 sagehen
oh my. Look who responded to that tweet…
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What a fucking idiot. Like we’re supposed to believe that the Russians got all the way into the voting system but couldn’t bring themselves to switch ten thousand or two votes.
re: #343 makeitstop
Wait a second. They got a raft of shit for the lies about the inauguration. Spicer caught shit for days about it.
I realize that the media does a lot of equivocating re Trump. But you won’t find a news org outside of Fox or OANN that will say that inauguration was the biggest in history.
I don’t know why Wendell thinks the media always tells Trump’s narrative. They don’t. The media could definitely handle Trump better but they didn’t give him this. Spicer’s angry reactions to the press calling that lie out are exactly why Spicer got lampooned.
re: #341 HappyWarrior
Why do so many people think Nazi salutes are funny? Fucking alt Right and their “humor.”
There are times and places when they can be funny. I do not see how they would have been in a classroom setting unless the class was singing a rousing rendition of “Der Führer’s Face”
re: #326 Big Black Mariah
Tim Conway’s 7 Wackiest Sketches on ‘The Carol Burnett Show’ (Videos)
“you sure that little asshole’s through?”
effing brilliant!
re: #348 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
There are times and places when they can be funny. I do not see how they would have been in a classroom setting unless the class was singing a rousing rendition of “Der Führer’s Face”
You know what I meant man. Please. I know the difference between humor i.e. a Mel Brooks movie and eleven year olds making a classmate feel uncomfortable. Just stop being overly pedantic.
re: #338 The Vicious Babushka
Holy shit, read the thread. It’s even worse than it sounds.
re: #346 The Vicious Babushka
What a fucking idiot. Like we’re supposed to believe that the Russians got all the way into the voting system but couldn’t bring themselves to switch ten thousand or two votes.
And even if they didn’t, the fact that DF’s party/president has shown nothing to indictate that this will happen again is a problem in itself. He’s always been a GOP Uber Alles type. I tried to be civil to the guy when eh was here but man he bends over backwards to justify everything that the GOP benefits from no matter how fucked up.
re: #348 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
There are times and places when they can be funny. I do not see how they would have been in a classroom setting unless the class was singing a rousing rendition of “Der Führer’s Face”
Or maybe the “Hitler Rap”
re: #350 HappyWarrior
You know what I meant man. Please. I know the difference between humor i.e. a Mel Brooks movie and eleven year olds making a classmate feel uncomfortable. Just stop being overly pedantic.
I am aware of the difference. I would like to hear more about the details of the situation, though. It does seem shocking to see how mainstreamed Fascism is growing in this country.
re: #346 The Vicious Babushka
What a fucking idiot. Like we’re supposed to believe that the Russians got all the way into the voting system but couldn’t bring themselves to switch ten thousand or two votes.
Elections are supposed to be sacrosanct. We are told by the GOP that the vote needs to be tallied and only legit votes matter.
How can anyone take the 2016 results as legit when we know that Russia was already inside the very systems for counting and tallying the results. It would rather easy for them to manipulate the results especially with the lack of a paper trail.
We also know that Russia isn’t going to stop with just one election. They’re going to fuck around with the results again. They have successfully fucked the nation, and Trump continues to ignore the damage done - mostly because he’s the one who benefits from it.
re: #353 The Vicious Babushka
Or maybe the “Hitler Rap”
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I was thinking Springtime for Hitler. That’s clear satire. And I thought I was pretty clear that I don’t get why Nazi salutes when someone is clearly uncomfortable is funny. I love Mel’s humor but I could totally understand why someone who lived through the Nazis would find his humor maybe a little uncomfortable but with Mel, it’s clear that he’s mocking the Nazis. These kids weren’t mocking the Nazis.
re: #354 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I am aware of the difference. I would like to hear more about the details of the situation, though. It does seem shocking to see how mainstreamed Fascism is growing in this country.
It’s an eleven year old child who felt uncomfortable by classmates doing a Nazi salute around her. What the hell else do you need them to do? Sorry for being harsh but this is something we don’t need more context for. I wasn’t even allowed to wear a baseball hat in school. Kids shouldn’t be allowed to do Nazi salutes in schools.
re: #340 sagehen
oh my. Look who responded to that tweet…
Kurt Akemann
@Dark_Falcon7
The fact that the Russians got in doesn’t mean they changed the vote totals. HRC lost Florida by tens of thousands of votes.
- the russians got in
- hrc lost by tens of thousands of votes
- how do you know they didnt change the vote totals?
re: #358 DangerMan
- the russians got in
- hrc lost by tens of thousands of votes- how do you know they didnt change the vote totals?
DF is just being his usual Republican toady self and taking Desanittis at his word.
re: #344 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I would like to hear and read more about this case, but has it come to the point that asking Nazis not to give Hitler salutes is considered an affront to Free Speech?
if theirs is free speech, so is hers
You don’t get absolute free speech in school anyhow. I wonder how an Osama was right t-shirt would go over with the Free Peach absolutists. I don’t think these kids should be jailed or anything like that but they sure as hell do need a good WWII history lesson as to what the Nazis were.
re: #341 HappyWarrior
Why do so many people think Nazi salutes are funny? Fucking alt Right and their “humor.”
I got a joke for ‘em:
Hey, it’s my heritage!
re: #346 The Vicious Babushka
What a fucking idiot. Like we’re supposed to believe that the Russians got all the way into the voting system but couldn’t bring themselves to switch ten thousand or two votes.
I note that Obama won FL in 2008 and 2012.
re: #362 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
I got a joke for ‘em:
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Hey, it’s my heritage!
Mine too! Grand uncles on both sides who were part of Ike’s Army.
re: #359 HappyWarrior
DF is just being his usual Republican toady self and taking Desanittis at his word.
ok, how does desantis know?
i submit they dont ‘know’ and dont want to dig too deeply to find out
re: #365 DangerMan
ok, how does desantis know?
i submit they dont ‘know’ and dont want to dig too deeply to find out
Yeah that too. WE’re talking about a man who was nominated because of his love of Trump. I don’t trust him.
re: #338 The Vicious Babushka
JFC
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I see they are in middle Tennessee.
My shocked face…
re: #340 sagehen
oh my. Look who responded to that tweet…
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Never will forgive that asshole when he made those snarky remarks about my son being killed in Iraq.
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