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gocart mozart  May 16, 2019 • 10:41:42am
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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 10:42:42am

re: #1 gocart mozart

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I really like Blumenthal. He’s really good on judicial matters.

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 10:46:58am

Were that the biggest driver of such bills was ignorance, because we might be able to end them by simply teaching people. But the reality is that such bills exist because there is a significant portion of our nation’s population who believe that giving women free agency over their lives and their bodies was the biggest mistake made. If they could put a ban on women in the workplace and repeal the 19th Amendment, they would do it tomorrow.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 10:47:31am

re: #3 Targetpractice

Were that the biggest driver of such bills was ignorance, because we might be able to end them by simply teaching people. But the reality is that such bills exist because there is a significant portion of our nation’s population who believe that giving women free agency over their lives and their bodies was the biggest mistake made. If they could put a ban on women in the workplace and repeal the 19th Amendment, they would do it tomorrow.

Yes. They’re reactionary minded.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2019 • 10:51:31am
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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 10:53:05am

re: #5 lawhawk

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Boom!

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2019 • 10:54:32am

re: #1 gocart mozart

Holy hell. Would they really go after brown v. board?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 16, 2019 • 10:54:53am
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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 10:55:44am

re: #8 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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lawhawk  May 16, 2019 • 10:55:55am

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Holy hell. Would they really go after brown v. board?

Yes.

I think they would. I think the reactionary GOP and the Federalist/Heritage judges Trump keeps nominating and Senate GOPers keep rubber stamping, are ultimately going to go after Brown, the New Deal, and Great Society.

They want to destroy 80 years of progress.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2019 • 10:56:05am

re: #8 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

JFC.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 10:56:15am

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Holy hell. Would they really go after brown v. board?

I dunno tbh but I don’t want to find out.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 10:57:50am

re: #10 lawhawk

Yes.

I think they would. I think the reactionary GOP and the Federalist/Heritage judges Trump keeps nominating and Senate GOPers keep rubber stamping, are ultimately going to go after Brown, the New Deal, and Great Society.

They want to destroy 80 years of progress.

Yep.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 10:59:06am

#8 btw is yet another reason why I’m not budging on birthright citizenship.

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 11:00:30am

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Holy hell. Would they really go after brown v. board?

Yes, the reason being is they believe that it and busing “ruined” the schools by forcing white students to be moved from great schools in white neighborhoods to failing schools in black ones in order as a form of socialism. You have to remember that, for many white folks at the time Brown was handed down, racial animosity and the push for equality had nothing to do with centuries of inequality and everything with a communist plot to “destroy” everything good about America.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 11:01:40am

These right wing judges were shaped by people who were terrified by social progress made in the Warren Court years. They’ll gladly reverse a lot of it.

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Teukka  May 16, 2019 • 11:04:46am

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Holy hell. Would they really go after brown v. board?

Yes.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2019 • 11:06:05am

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Holy hell. Would they really go after brown v. board?

What do you think “charter schools” and “school choice” is all about?

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 11:06:27am

re: #16 HappyWarrior

These right wing judges were shaped by people who were terrified by social progress made in the Warren Court years. They’ll gladly reverse a lot of it.

It’s what led to the branch of wingnut judicial thought we know as “originalism,” the idea that the Warren and Burger Courts had “overstepped” on cases like Brown and Roe by not sticking strictly to what was spelled out implicitly in the Constitution, and thus had “legislated” from the bench.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 11:07:27am

re: #19 Targetpractice

It’s what led to the branch of wingnut judicial thought we know as “originalism,” the idea that the Warren and Burger Courts had “overstepped” on cases like Brown and Roe by not sticking strictly to what was spelled out implicitly in the Constitution, and thus had “legislated” from the bench.

Precisely

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 11:07:36am

re: #18 The Vicious Babushka

What do you think “charter schools” and “school choice” is all about?

Yep!

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Decatur Deb  May 16, 2019 • 11:14:10am

Fresh Right-to-Life news from Alabama:

Defense: Alabama Governor Denies Reprieve Before Execution

usnews.com

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2019 • 11:14:40am
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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 11:16:02am

re: #23 Charles Johnson

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When Fox stops acting like the media arm of the Trump administration then we’ll talk. Or if they stop being racist assholes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2019 • 11:16:59am

re: #21 HappyWarrior

Yep!

Her exact words yesterday: “every life is precious”

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Teukka  May 16, 2019 • 11:17:30am

re: #24 HappyWarrior

When Fox stops acting like the media arm of the Trump administration then we’ll talk. Or if they stop being racist assholes.

Giphy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2019 • 11:18:18am

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

Her exact words yesterday: “every life is precious”

oops…meant that in reply to re: #22 Decatur Deb

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 11:18:44am

re: #26 Teukka

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 11:19:49am

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

oops…meant that in reply to

Yeah she’s a hypocrite.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 16, 2019 • 11:23:05am
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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2019 • 11:25:57am
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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2019 • 11:29:00am
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KGxvi  May 16, 2019 • 11:30:25am

re: #31 Charles Johnson

One party deserves to lose, the other doesn’t deserve to win.

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Decatur Deb  May 16, 2019 • 11:35:26am

Word has spread. My old co-worker in Tel Aviv facebooked Wife today: “Thinking about you two today when I heard the (Alabama) news.”

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KGxvi  May 16, 2019 • 11:35:49am

re: #10 lawhawk

Yes.

I think they would. I think the reactionary GOP and the Federalist/Heritage judges Trump keeps nominating and Senate GOPers keep rubber stamping, are ultimately going to go after Brown, the New Deal, and Great Society.

They want to destroy 80 years of progress.

What the intellectual (or whatever is left that passes for intellectual) part of the legal conservative movement really wants (and they’ve wanted it for decades) is a return to the Lochner era. They want to so weaken federal, state, and local government to the point that none of them can do anything to stop bad results. For those that don’t know about Lochner decision here, nice summary here.

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 11:36:24am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

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I saw an article earlier this morning that didn’t pull punches in saying that the DNC has basically conceded the impeachment fight to Trump. That quibbling over the redacted portions of the Mueller Report may actually hurt the DNC not because it looks like they’re “harassing” Trump, but because it likely won’t change anything about the conclusions of the Report itself. And the conclusions were so damning that the DNC’s refusal to act on them can only really be read as irrational fear that doing so will “help” Trump win reelection.

The DNC has set itself up to go to the polls next year arguing that Donny’s actions are so heinous that he deserves to be removed from office, but will only lead many voters to ask why the DNC did nothing if that is the case.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 16, 2019 • 11:39:29am

Secretary of State in Russia to discuss Trump Tower Moscow.

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KGxvi  May 16, 2019 • 11:40:11am

re: #36 Targetpractice

I saw an article earlier this morning that didn’t pull punches in saying that the DNC has basically conceded the impeachment fight to Trump. That quibbling over the redacted portions of the Mueller Report may actually hurt the DNC not because it looks like they’re “harassing” Trump, but because it likely won’t change anything about the conclusions of the Report itself. And the conclusions were so damning that the DNC’s refusal to act on them can only really be read as irrational fear that doing so will “help” Trump win reelection.

The DNC has set itself up to go to the polls next year arguing that Donny’s actions are so heinous that he deserves to be removed from office, but will only lead many voters to ask why the DNC did nothing if that is the case.

For two years, leadership kept saying “wait for the Mueller Report.” The Mueller Report came and now it’s basically a McGuffin… leadership’s position now seems to be “eh, what are you going to do this close to an election?” Which is stupid because we have elections all the damn time in this country.

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2019 • 11:43:50am

re: #2 HappyWarrior

He was CT AG for 18 years, took over when Liieberman left to run for Senate in 1988

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2019 • 11:49:48am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2019 • 11:49:52am

re: #38 KGxvi

For two years, leadership kept saying “wait for the Mueller Report.” The Mueller Report came and now it’s basically a McGuffin… leadership’s position now seems to be “eh, what are you going to do this close to an election?” Which is stupid because we have elections all the damn time in this country.

There are 16 fucking months until the election. That’s almost a YEAR AND A HALF. That’s plenty of time to do shit.

Hell, the House could impeach the motherfucker tomorrow if they want it to.

If they do nothing, they send the message that tyranny is acceptable in the United States.

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2019 • 11:52:38am

First album I bought, KISS “Dressed to Kill”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2019 • 11:52:44am
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  May 16, 2019 • 11:54:02am

Get New Trump!

now with 77% more racism!

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makeitstop  May 16, 2019 • 11:55:24am

Trump is the John Belushi of Calvin Coolidges.

High. As. A. Fucking. Kite.

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thecommodore  May 16, 2019 • 11:55:32am

re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg

There are 16 fucking months until the election. That’s almost a YEAR AND A HALF. That’s plenty of time to do shit.

Hell, the House could impeach the motherfucker tomorrow if they want it to.

If they do nothing, they send the message that tyranny is acceptable in the United States.

Pelosi Raises Impeachment as a Way to Break Trump’s Information Stonewall

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 16, 2019 • 11:55:54am
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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 11:56:15am

re: #38 KGxvi

For two years, leadership kept saying “wait for the Mueller Report.” The Mueller Report came and now it’s basically a McGuffin… leadership’s position now seems to be “eh, what are you going to do this close to an election?” Which is stupid because we have elections all the damn time in this country.

IMHO, the problem began with Nancy’s “He’s not worth impeaching” remark to the press weeks ago. At the time, folks laughed at it and saw it as a bruise to Donny’s ego. But since then, it’s rung like false bravado, the sort of glib remark you make to explain inaction. If the Report is that damning, why hold off on going after Trump?

The bit for weeks to explain inaction has been that they’re “building the case for impeachment.” No offense to folks who still believe that, but at this point it looks more like they’re building a case for inaction. That they’re not working towards impeachment so much as working to make a case why they “can’t” impeach Trump. And even if that is not the case, it is the perception they are creating that will hurt them next year.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 16, 2019 • 11:56:53am

Holy. Shit.

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 11:58:30am

re: #46 thecommodore

Pelosi Raises Impeachment as a Way to Break Trump’s Information Stonewall

What reason does Trump have to view that as anything but an empty threat?

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2019 • 12:00:20pm
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DangerMan  May 16, 2019 • 12:02:24pm

re: #49 GlutenFreeJesus

Holy. Shit.

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since i like to hear myself talk, from downstairs:

zero babies have been aborted since roe
if it’s a baby, it was born

if it is ‘unborn’ it is not a baby
codifying stupidity into law doesnt make it so

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2019 • 12:02:32pm
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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2019 • 12:02:34pm
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calochortus  May 16, 2019 • 12:02:50pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

What reason does Trump have to view that as anything but an empty threat?

Well, Nancy Pelosi said it, and I’m still inclined to think she knows what she’s doing. I’d say Trump ignores her at his peril.

Speaking of Trump, I was going to comment on his stupid speech, but honestly I don’t know where to begin. Would it be that we don’t want foreigners taking low wage jobs, but we do want them taking middle class and higher jobs? How does that help upward mobility? Should I start with the end about how we could change the make up of the House “a lot sooner than then” (referring to the 2020 elections?) Gah.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2019 • 12:03:05pm
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plansbandc  May 16, 2019 • 12:05:06pm
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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2019 • 12:05:09pm

Matt Walsh still being a stupid, evil, garbage person.
(In spoiler tags because of evil, stupidity & overall garbageness)

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Mescalero  May 16, 2019 • 12:05:21pm
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KGxvi  May 16, 2019 • 12:06:01pm

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

Trump speaks not English, nor could he pass the most basic of civics exam. Can we deport him? Perhaps to Elba or St Helena?

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2019 • 12:06:35pm

re: #60 KGxvi

Trump speaks not English, nor could he pass the most basic of civics exam. Can we deport him? Perhaps to Elba or St Helena?

Where is Snowden living now?

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KGxvi  May 16, 2019 • 12:07:17pm

re: #59 Wah Gwaan?!

What was Reagan’s line? “A recession is when your neighbor loses his job, a depression is when you lose your job”?

Same basic principle.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2019 • 12:07:52pm

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

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moron needs to learn English and pass a civics test first

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 16, 2019 • 12:08:02pm

re: #48 Targetpractice

IMHO, the problem began with Nancy’s “He’s not worth impeaching” remark to the press weeks ago. At the time, folks laughed at it and saw it as a bruise to Donny’s ego. But since then, it’s rung like false bravado, the sort of glib remark you make to explain inaction. If the Report is that damning, why hold off on going after Trump?

The bit for weeks to explain inaction has been that they’re “building the case for impeachment.” No offense to folks who still believe that, but at this point it looks more like they’re building a case for inaction. That they’re not working towards impeachment so much as working to make a case why they “can’t” impeach Trump. And even if that is not the case, it is the perception they are creating that will hurt them next year.

Which is why Barr felt comfortable about making this “joke”

Barr Jokingly Asks Pelosi If She ‘Brought Her Handcuffs’

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KGxvi  May 16, 2019 • 12:09:19pm

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

Also, how exactly are you going to administer civics exams in other countries? That’s what “before admission” mean, right? There’s no way our embassies and consulates could handle that as currently constructed and staffed.

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Mescalero  May 16, 2019 • 12:10:07pm

re: #62 KGxvi

What was Reagan’s line? “A recession is when your neighbor loses his job, a depression is when you lose your job”?

Same basic principle.

You do not make your neighborhood better by burning down houses.

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 12:10:29pm

re: #55 calochortus

Well, Nancy Pelosi said it, and I’m still inclined to think she knows what she’s doing. I’d say Trump ignores her at his peril.

Speaking of Trump, I was going to comment on his stupid speech, but honestly I don’t know where to begin. Would it be that we don’t want foreigners taking low wage jobs, but we do want them taking middle class and higher jobs? How does that help upward mobility? Should I start with the end about how we could change the make up of the House “a lot sooner than then” (referring to the 2020 elections?) Gah.

Meanwhile, in the same week, we learned that Bill Barr laughed in her face about whether she’d “brought [her] handcuffs.” That’s not a sign of an administration that takes the threat of impeachment seriously.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2019 • 12:11:21pm
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calochortus  May 16, 2019 • 12:11:56pm

re: #67 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, in the same week, we learned that Bill Barr laughed in her face about whether she’d “brought [her] handcuffs.” That’s not a sign of an administration that takes the threat of impeachment seriously.

It doesn’t mean they shouldn’t take it seriously. Might even be evidence of hubris, which makes people and administrations careless.

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Mescalero  May 16, 2019 • 12:12:04pm

Ted Cruz smuggles dildos. One at a time.

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2019 • 12:12:38pm
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DangerMan  May 16, 2019 • 12:13:51pm

re: #66 Wah Gwaan?!

You do not make your neighborhood better by burning down houses.

basic real estate
never be the best house in the neighborhood

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Belafon  May 16, 2019 • 12:13:54pm

re: #67 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, in the same week, we learned that Bill Barr laughed in her face about whether she’d “brought [her] handcuffs.” That’s not a sign of an administration that takes the threat of impeachment seriously.

People who think they are above the law laugh at the law until they get caught in it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 16, 2019 • 12:14:33pm

I can’t believe how easy that was.

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Mescalero  May 16, 2019 • 12:14:47pm

re: #72 DangerMan

basic real estate
never be the best house in the neighborhood

Never be the house next to the house that just doesn’t give a shit.

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 12:15:17pm

re: #69 calochortus

It doesn’t mean they shouldn’t take it seriously. Might even be evidence of hubris, which makes people and administrations careless.

If impeachment will get her the documents and testimony she wants, and she has no reason at this point to believe the White House is acting in good faith, why threaten rather than act?

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DangerMan  May 16, 2019 • 12:16:43pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

What reason does Trump have to view that as anything but an empty threat?

two good comments to that article:

“One step at a time, people. Don’t worry, it’s not like Trump is ever going to stop providing additional proof of his complete and general contempt for lawfulness”.

and

Impeachment hearings in Congress should begin with a clear explanation that they are unlikely to produce a conviction in the Senate. That can’t be emphasized too much or too loudly. The purpose of impeachment would be to acquire testimony for the public’s use in governing themselves, including calling and writing their Senate and House representatives, altering their votes, or even protesting in the streets.

Let the Republican (Trump) controlled Senate deal with trying to cover-up information. Let the Republican Senate majority deny a fair trial. The people will have been forewarned of that and will be expecting it.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  May 16, 2019 • 12:16:47pm

trump speech today:

sedative or senility?

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DangerMan  May 16, 2019 • 12:17:56pm

re: #73 Belafon

People who think they are above the law laugh at the law until they get caught in it.

and then claim they were framed, rigged, setup, unfair, abuse, etc

btw - what’s a ‘legal’ coup?
trump keeps talking about an ‘illegal coup’

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DangerMan  May 16, 2019 • 12:18:48pm

re: #75 Wah Gwaan?!

Never be the house next to the house that just doesn’t give a shit.

as well

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2019 • 12:19:37pm

The rats are living the sinking crate full of rats

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calochortus  May 16, 2019 • 12:20:55pm

re: #76 Targetpractice

If impeachment will get her the documents and testimony she wants, and she has no reason at this point to believe the White House is acting in good faith, why threaten rather than act?

I think it might have something to do with being seen by the majority of voters who don’t currently want to impeach, to be proceeding carefully and thoughtfully. Being forced into it rather than rushing towards it. It would be way too easy for the Right to spin impeachment investigations as witch hunts, while still busily obstructing justice.

It may be the wrong strategy, or it maybe the right one, but I suspect her understanding of the politics is superior to mine.

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 12:21:59pm

re: #73 Belafon

People who think they are above the law laugh at the law until they get caught in it.

So do people who keep getting told “I got enough to put you away for life!” and yet keep walking free.

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Mescalero  May 16, 2019 • 12:22:04pm

re: #80 DangerMan

as well

Not next door but close by…..Notice the back side glass…as he passes them he doesn’t even have to shoot the bird, bitch.
Last year.

“Yeah we race all kindsah racings.”
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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2019 • 12:22:26pm

DRUGS POURING ACROSS THE BORDER! CLOSE THE BORDER!
oops wrong border.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 16, 2019 • 12:23:31pm
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Chrysicat  May 16, 2019 • 12:23:55pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 16, 2019 • 12:26:22pm
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gocart mozart  May 16, 2019 • 12:26:36pm
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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 12:29:18pm

re: #82 calochortus

I think it might have something to do with being seen by the majority of voters who don’t currently want to impeach, to be proceeding carefully and thoughtfully. Being forced into it rather than rushing towards it. It would be way too easy for the Right to spin impeachment investigations as witch hunts, while still busily obstructing justice.

It may be the wrong strategy, or it maybe the right one, but I suspect her understanding of the politics is superior to mine.

We were told for the better part of two years that we couldn’t take action until Mueller’s Report dropped, that he would make the case for impeachment and the DNC would go from there. Well, the Report dropped over a month ago, it made a case for impeachment, but now we’re told we have to wait until the various and sundry investigations in Congress conclude before action can be taken.

What if we get to next November and the case for impeachment has never been made? Worse, what if people decide that the DNC’s failure to impeach means that there’s no “there there” to the whole matter? That he really was “exonerated” and the DNC has spent 2 years wasting the nation’s time and money on a wild goose chase?

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calochortus  May 16, 2019 • 12:29:58pm

re: #88 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Why am I not seeing this discussed on Free Republic?
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Belafon  May 16, 2019 • 12:30:48pm

re: #69 calochortus

It doesn’t mean they shouldn’t take it seriously. Might even be evidence of hubris, which makes people and administrations careless.

I mean, we all know how seriously this administration takes women.

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2019 • 12:30:49pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 16, 2019 • 12:31:29pm

re: #91 calochortus

Why am I not seeing this discussed on Free Republic?
/

It’s CNN which MAGATS believe is fake news…

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2019 • 12:31:58pm
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Belafon  May 16, 2019 • 12:32:03pm

re: #79 DangerMan

and then claim they were framed, rigged, setup, unfair, abuse, etc

btw - what’s a ‘legal’ coup?
trump keeps talking about an ‘illegal coup’

In a normal administration, it would be January 21 of the year following the election.

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Chrysicat  May 16, 2019 • 12:32:50pm
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gocart mozart  May 16, 2019 • 12:32:57pm
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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 12:33:08pm

re: #95 gocart mozart

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Considering I’m currently using a GrubHub coupon as a bookmark for my latest acquisition, I’d also have to fall under “neutral good.”

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Mescalero  May 16, 2019 • 12:33:19pm
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calochortus  May 16, 2019 • 12:34:47pm

re: #90 Targetpractice

We were told for the better part of two years that we couldn’t take action until Mueller’s Report dropped, that he would make the case for impeachment and the DNC would go from there. Well, the Report dropped over a month ago, it made a case for impeachment, but now we’re told we have to wait until the various and sundry investigations in Congress conclude before action can be taken.

What if we get to next November and the case for impeachment has never been made? Worse, what if people decide that the DNC’s failure to impeach means that there’s no “there there” to the whole matter? That he really was “exonerated” and the DNC has spent 2 years wasting the nation’s time and money on a wild goose chase?

And what if they start impeachment hearings and the administration still stonewalls them and things get tied up in court for months. Will people in flyover country suddenly marching in the streets for greater transparency? If Trump is impeached will he be convicted in the Senate? (Probably not) Will that somehow convince people Trump is a crook?
None of us are psychic. I understand your frustration, and respect your take on the subject. Mine is just a bit different.

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Decatur Deb  May 16, 2019 • 12:35:13pm

re: #99 Targetpractice

Considering I’m currently using a GrubHub coupon as a bookmark for my latest acquisition, I’d also have to fall under “neutral good.”

Gonna make a wild guess that it’s not a cookbook.

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2019 • 12:36:39pm
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KGxvi  May 16, 2019 • 12:37:09pm

re: #88 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Rolling back prices to the pre-free trade era! Progress!

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 16, 2019 • 12:37:31pm

re: #95 gocart mozart

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Neutral good, lawful if I have a bookmark handy, true neutral when I’m traveling.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 16, 2019 • 12:37:59pm
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KGxvi  May 16, 2019 • 12:38:52pm

re: #95 gocart mozart

I’m like six of those.

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TedStriker  May 16, 2019 • 12:39:04pm

re: #102 Decatur Deb

Gonna make a wild guess that it’s not a cookbook.

“To Serve Man”

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 12:39:12pm

re: #102 Decatur Deb

Gonna make a wild guess that it’s not a cookbook.

It is not. In fact, it’s the first volume of a light novel series that I picked up yesterday at the local bookstore’s “Going Out of Business” sale. It was like a Steam Sale, only I feel a bit less guilty.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 12:39:31pm

re: #106 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Ann won’t be happy until no one is allowed in the country.

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TedStriker  May 16, 2019 • 12:40:27pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Ann won’t be happy until no one is allowed in the country.

Well, at least no one with a skin tone darker than a bleached paper bag.

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jaunte  May 16, 2019 • 12:41:06pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Ann won’t be happy.

“It’s a living.”

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KGxvi  May 16, 2019 • 12:41:24pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Ann won’t be happy until no one is allowed in the country.

That’s literally one of her tweets… asking what happened to the total immigration moratorium.

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2019 • 12:42:01pm
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calochortus  May 16, 2019 • 12:42:09pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Ann won’t be happy until no one is allowed in the country.

She lives in NYC, doesn’t she? Couldn’t she just move away from that vibrant, immigrant-filled city to, Iowa or North Dakota or something where she doesn’t have to see brown people?

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 12:43:00pm

re: #114 KGxvi

That’s literally one of her tweets… asking what happened to the total immigration moratorium.

She’s such a miserable bigot.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 12:43:18pm

re: #116 calochortus

She lives in NYC, doesn’t she? Couldn’t she just move away from that vibrant, immigrant-filled city to, Iowa or North Dakota or something where she doesn’t have to see brown people?

Seriously.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 12:43:51pm

re: #112 gocart mozart

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Not even close. They always do this shit.

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KGxvi  May 16, 2019 • 12:43:59pm

re: #107 KGxvi

I’m like six of those.

No, wait, seven of them… Neutral Good, Chaotic Good (very rarely, but occasionally), Lawful Neutral, True Neutral, Chaotic Neutral, Lawful Evil, Neutral Evil; depending on the mood and/or situation

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 12:44:02pm

re: #101 calochortus

And what if they start impeachment hearings and the administration still stonewalls them and things get tied up in court for months. Will people in flyover country suddenly marching in the streets for greater transparency? If Trump is impeached will he be convicted in the Senate? (Probably not) Will that somehow convince people Trump is a crook?
None of us are psychic. I understand your frustration, and respect your take on the subject. Mine is just a bit different.

Being a recovering conspiracy theorist, I tend to discount grand plans that see people slowly being worked into inevitable doom in favor of believing that the ones in charge are gambling that their actions (even inaction) will have a favorable outcome or at least break even. And that’s what I see here, Pelosi and the rest of the leadership gambling that either they will land on a bombshell so massive that the polls will flip in favor of impeachment or that Trump’s absolute refusal to cooperate will hurt him politically.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 16, 2019 • 12:44:36pm

Meanwhile, the UC peregrines have just passed their third week. That brown thing in the nest is an unhatched egg. Three weeks ago, the chicks would fit in it.

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Semper Fi  May 16, 2019 • 12:45:41pm

re: #90 Targetpractice

We were told for the better part of two years that we couldn’t take action until Mueller’s Report dropped, that he would make the case for impeachment and the DNC would go from there. Well, the Report dropped over a month ago, it made a case for impeachment, but now we’re told we have to wait until the various and sundry investigations in Congress conclude before action can be taken.

What if we get to next November and the case for impeachment has never been made? Worse, what if people decide that the DNC’s failure to impeach means that there’s no “there there” to the whole matter? That he really was “exonerated” and the DNC has spent 2 years wasting the nation’s time and money on a wild goose chase?

You have accurately described my thoughts on the matter as well. Then, when I see a President Pence appear in the aftermath…it becomes a sobering and almost scary thought.

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Decatur Deb  May 16, 2019 • 12:46:05pm

Since it’s ‘Bama Day on the Intertubes:

Roy Moore wants judge removed, order vacated in Sacha Baron Cohen lawsuit
al.com

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KGxvi  May 16, 2019 • 12:47:21pm

re: #121 Targetpractice

Being a recovering conspiracy theorist, I tend to discount grand plans that see people slowly being worked into inevitable doom in favor of believing that the ones in charge are gambling that their actions (even inaction) will have a favorable outcome or at least break even. And that’s what I see here, Pelosi and the rest of the leadership gambling that either they will land on a bombshell so massive that the polls will flip in favor of impeachment or that Trump’s absolute refusal to cooperate will hurt him politically.

Polls don’t flip in a short amount of time unless you do the work to convince people to change their minds. More likely, they change slowly - see marijuana legalization, same sex marriage - or they don’t change much at all. In other words: there’s no smoking gun.

As for hurting Trump politically, he’s already at his floor. His base, that 37% or so that he has a strangle hold on, isn’t going to desert him.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2019 • 12:48:37pm

re: #78 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

trump speech today:

sedative or senility?

Yes.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 16, 2019 • 12:48:39pm

re: #95 gocart mozart

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Neutral Good for analog books. True neutral for E-Books.

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calochortus  May 16, 2019 • 12:49:02pm

On an unrelated topic, apparently highly refined foods cause weight gain. Aside from the fact that nutrition, metabolism, and related things are wildly complex, and the rest of the stuff in the article, which of these diets sounds better to you:

Participants were randomly assigned to one of two diets for two-week stretches: One group was fed an unprocessed diet full of whole or minimally processed foods like stir-fried beef with vegetables, basmati rice and orange slices. The other group ate an ultra-processed diet of meals like chicken salad made with canned chicken, jarred mayonnaise and relish on white bread, served with canned peaches in heavy syrup. When the two weeks were up, the groups were then assigned to the opposite diet plan.

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jaunte  May 16, 2019 • 12:50:13pm

Everything’s Been Sold American

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jaunte  May 16, 2019 • 12:51:46pm
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KGxvi  May 16, 2019 • 12:53:29pm

re: #128 calochortus

On an unrelated topic, apparently highly refined foods cause weight gain. Aside from the fact that nutrition, metabolism, and related things are wildly complex, and the rest of the stuff in the article, which of these diets sounds better to you:

The unprocessed is probably better, for the most part. But in reality it’s a little from column A and a little from column B. Sometimes, I just want a candy bar and a coke.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 16, 2019 • 12:54:06pm

re: #112 gocart mozart

Should probably put that behind a private tag. (Nudity)

Never mind. It’s been deleted

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 16, 2019 • 12:56:47pm

re: #128 calochortus

On an unrelated topic, apparently highly refined foods cause weight gain. Aside from the fact that nutrition, metabolism, and related things are wildly complex, and the rest of the stuff in the article, which of these diets sounds better to you:

I want the stir-fried beef with canned peaches!

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calochortus  May 16, 2019 • 12:59:23pm

re: #133 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

I want the stir-fried beef with canned peaches!

Nah, I’ll go with the beef, rice and orange slices and then maybe some ice cream with caramel sauce.

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 1:00:42pm

The sad reality of modern America is so many of us want to eat that stir-fried beef, but eat the chicken salad because it doesn’t need to be kept warm, it’s what was on the shelf for cheap at 7-11, and you can hold it in one hand while you move a mouse with the other.

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jaunte  May 16, 2019 • 1:02:35pm

re: #135 Targetpractice

Stir-fried beef filled cheetos.

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Mike Lamb  May 16, 2019 • 1:02:47pm

re: #106 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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She’s gone full 1488.

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calochortus  May 16, 2019 • 1:04:04pm

re: #135 Targetpractice

The sad reality of modern America is so many of us want to eat that stir-fried beef, but eat the chicken salad because it doesn’t need to be kept warm, it’s what was on the shelf for cheap at 7-11, and you can hold it in one hand while you move a mouse with the other.

Unfortunately that is so. I have the luxury of the time to cook that stuff and enough money to buy whatever ingredients I think are best. It is criminal that there aren’t good options for so many people.

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calochortus  May 16, 2019 • 1:04:48pm

re: #136 jaunte

Stir-fried beef filled cheetos.

Umm, no.

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jaunte  May 16, 2019 • 1:05:18pm

re: #139 calochortus

Textured vegetable protein?

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lawhawk  May 16, 2019 • 1:05:44pm

re: #95 gocart mozart

I’m 8 of 9. I don’t rip pages. That’s just wrong.

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calochortus  May 16, 2019 • 1:05:52pm

re: #140 jaunte

Textured vegetable protein?

Sounds yummy, but also, no.

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Dave In Austin  May 16, 2019 • 1:05:56pm

re: #106 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Does Anne ride a Harley? Seriously… I wonder.

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2019 • 1:06:13pm
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jaunte  May 16, 2019 • 1:07:19pm

Edible containers, dry on the outside and savory on the inside; the future of single-hand meals.

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Belafon  May 16, 2019 • 1:07:58pm

re: #145 jaunte

Edible containers, dry on the outside and savory on the inside; the future of single-hand meals.

I think we call them hamburgers.

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Dave In Austin  May 16, 2019 • 1:08:03pm

re: #145 jaunte

Edible containers, dry on the outside and savory on the inside; the future of single-hand meals.

Where the Box IS the bun……

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DangerMan  May 16, 2019 • 1:08:18pm

re: #82 calochortus

I think it might have something to do with being seen by the majority of voters who don’t currently want to impeach, to be proceeding carefully and thoughtfully. Being forced into it rather than rushing towards it. It would be way too easy for the Right to spin impeachment investigations as witch hunts, while still busily obstructing justice.

It may be the wrong strategy, or it maybe the right one, but I suspect her understanding of the politics is superior to mine.

i just jumped back in so if this has been said:

i think also she/they figures this will inevitably end up in court long before an actual senate ‘trial’ and they dont want to be booted out being told you should have done x first, or go back and do y…..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2019 • 1:08:30pm

re: #128 calochortus

On an unrelated topic, apparently highly refined foods cause weight gain. Aside from the fact that nutrition, metabolism, and related things are wildly complex, and the rest of the stuff in the article, which of these diets sounds better to you:

minimum profit is in selling us wholesome food that we prepare ourselves fresh

maximum profit is in selling us bulk-produced, chemically treated processed crap that we just warm up in the nukerowave

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jaunte  May 16, 2019 • 1:08:52pm

Boxberders.

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plansbandc  May 16, 2019 • 1:09:36pm

Just had a follower tweet that what Louis CK did was really no big deal. (uh???) I pointed out that when Louis CK got back on stage one of the first jokes he told was a rape joke and that was the act of a person who just doesn’t get it. Then my follower proceeded to mansplain why rape jokes are good because they help take the power away from the topic (?!?)

Can’t decide whether I should mute him or block him.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 16, 2019 • 1:10:50pm

re: #146 Belafon

I think we call them hamburgers.

Also hot dogs, tacos and burritos.

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sagehen  May 16, 2019 • 1:12:40pm

re: #145 jaunte

Edible containers, dry on the outside and savory on the inside; the future of single-hand meals.

You mean ice-cream cones?

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Mescalero  May 16, 2019 • 1:14:16pm
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calochortus  May 16, 2019 • 1:14:16pm

re: #149 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

minimum profit is in selling us wholesome food that we prepare ourselves fresh

maximum profit is in selling us bulk-produced, chemically treated processed crap that we just warm up in the nukerowave

Also, the highly processed stuff is carefully designed to make you want to eat more of it, even though it isn’t really highly satisfying. Or maybe because it isn’t satisfying.

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Dave In Austin  May 16, 2019 • 1:14:53pm

re: #150 jaunte

Boxberders.

Paper or Pulp?

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Chrysicat  May 16, 2019 • 1:14:57pm

re: #115 gocart mozart

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Arrgh. Both actual Greens and Bernie Bros can stick it up their most-dorsally-and-posteriorly-located orifice.

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makeitstop  May 16, 2019 • 1:16:15pm
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gocart mozart  May 16, 2019 • 1:16:19pm
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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 1:17:09pm

re: #144 gocart mozart

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I’m so old, I remember the days when we were assured by the “pro-life” crowd that they would never put women in jail for having an abortion.

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DangerMan  May 16, 2019 • 1:18:02pm

re: #147 Dave In Austin

Where the Box IS the bun……

it all comes from the same machine

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 1:19:26pm

re: #147 Dave In Austin

Where the Box IS the bun……

Sounds like something from a dystopian future movie.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2019 • 1:19:58pm

re: #135 Targetpractice

The sad reality of modern America is so many of us want to eat that stir-fried beef, but eat the chicken salad because it doesn’t need to be kept warm, it’s what was on the shelf for cheap at 7-11, and you can hold it in one hand while you move a mouse with the other.

This is the main problem. You can spend money to eat healthy, or you can get a few Tacos from Taco Bell for $3.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 1:20:17pm

re: #157 Chrysicat

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Arrgh. Both actual Greens and Bernie Bros can stick it up their most-dorsally-and-posteriorly-located orifice.

They’re still going there? It’s easy to dismiss Clinton as a “hawk” when you’ve never had to make difficult FP decisions. But Sanders isn’t exactly a dove despite what his supporters think.

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DangerMan  May 16, 2019 • 1:22:02pm

when tsa issues a warning about carrying on bbq sauce, it’s memphis in may

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makeitstop  May 16, 2019 • 1:22:27pm

Trump’s gonna have to find another angle on Biden, looks like…

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 1:22:41pm

re: #163 Eclectic Cyborg

This is the main problem. You can spend money to eat healthy, or you can get a few Tacos from Taco Bell for $3.

That presumes you’ve got time to cook it yourself, something I can only really say I have 2 days a week.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2019 • 1:23:21pm

re: #160 Targetpractice

I’m so old, I remember the days when we were assured by the “pro-life” crowd that they would never put women in jail for having an abortion.

even worse, when a woman is forced to prove her miscarriage was a miscarriage, otherwise…off to jail with you!

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 1:23:23pm

re: #166 makeitstop

Trump’s gonna have to find another angle on Biden, looks like…

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Giuliani is such a rancid scumbag.

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jaunte  May 16, 2019 • 1:23:31pm

re: #165 DangerMan

when tsa issues a warning about carrying on bbq sauce, it’s memphis in may

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2019 • 1:23:57pm

re: #155 calochortus

Also, the highly processed stuff is carefully designed to make you want to eat more of it, even though it isn’t really highly satisfying. Or maybe because it isn’t satisfying.

I saw some frozen Spanish paella in the supermarket the other week and thought “hey, this, looks healthy: chicken, rice, veggies and fish.” then checked the salt content; one serving is about 85% of your RDA, and decided to give it a pass

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lawhawk  May 16, 2019 • 1:24:05pm
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Belafon  May 16, 2019 • 1:25:06pm

re: #166 makeitstop

Trump’s gonna have to find another angle on Biden, looks like…

Wait until they figure out he was Vice President.

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Chrysicat  May 16, 2019 • 1:25:46pm

re: #172 lawhawk

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Well, yeah. For the short time until the Rs get a Hays Code for TV in place anyway, at which time Kate goes away because no lezzies before watershed if not simply ever.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2019 • 1:25:58pm

re: #167 Targetpractice

That presumes you’ve got time to cook it yourself, something I can only really say I have 2 days a week.

I feel you. I’ve been investigating quick healthy meals i.e. stuff that I can cook in less than 30 minutes using minimal dishes. There are some options but it is challenging. The last thing that I want to do after getting home from work and saying hi to my pets and dealing with the days mail and whatever else is cook.

Sometimes I will also cook a large batch of something when I have the time and then eat off it for like four days.

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 1:26:07pm

re: #166 makeitstop

Trump’s gonna have to find another angle on Biden, looks like…

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Faux will “just ask questions” about why the prosecutor general “suddenly” came out to make this announcement, at which time Donny will do one of his “Some people are saying” bits where he accuses Biden or the DNC of bribery.

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allegro  May 16, 2019 • 1:27:59pm

I started my day waking up to a tap-tap-tap sound. Did kid inventory, the bros still in the bed, The Princess absent. Tap-tap-tap… “Onyx, what are you doing?” Silence, then tap-tap-tap-tap. “Onyx! What ARE you doing?” Momentary silence, then tap-tap-tap-tap-tap…

Well shit, guess it’s time to get up anyway. If I’d gotten up a few minutes earlier I may have prevented an entire new roll of toilet paper being unrolled and lying in a pile on the floor.

So I get the coffee pot going and throw on some clothes to go empty the dog. Just as we get out the gate here comes a most annoying woman and her little dog, Larry. Larry is an unruly kid but otherwise okay. His mom? Wearing her pink Trump hat. Oh jeez. She isn’t just generally annoying, she’s a Trumper to boot. I pick up the pace, greeting her, as park etiquette requires, from as much distance as I can get.

Then Buddy stopped a bit too long to sniff and pee. Here she comes running, dragging poor little Larry along, to catch up to us. I groan, in NO mood whatsoever in my current rage at all things Trump GOP to force even casual civility. As they got close, Buddy the Hero, planted himself solidly in front of me, bared his teeth and snarled. LOL

The thing is, I knew he wasn’t snarling at Larry. He loves other dogs, Larry included. It worked. She quickly backed away, assuming it was a dog thing, with a happy “we’ll talk later!” Yeah, no, don’t think so.

We don’t deserve dogs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2019 • 1:32:31pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

Faux will “just ask questions” about why the prosecutor general “suddenly” came out to make this announcement, at which time Donny will do one of his “Some people are saying” bits where he accuses Biden or the DNC of bribery.

Deep State coverup

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  May 16, 2019 • 1:33:24pm

re: #59 Wah Gwaan?!

The only thing they care about are negative effects they feel themselves.

As I’ve been saying, these Trump voting people are evil. They are out fathers, our mothers, sisters, and brothers.

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Chrysicat  May 16, 2019 • 1:34:14pm

re: #177 allegro

I started my day waking up to a tap-tap-tap sound. Did kid inventory, the bros still in the bed, The Princess absent. Tap-tap-tap… “Onyx, what are you doing?” Silence, then tap-tap-tap-tap. “Onyx! What ARE you doing?” Momentary silence, then tap-tap-tap-tap-tap…

Well shit, guess it’s time to get up anyway. If I’d gotten up a few minutes earlier I may have prevented an entire new roll of toilet paper being unrolled and lying in a pile on the floor.

So I get the coffee pot going and throw on some clothes to go empty the dog. Just as we get out the gate here comes a most annoying woman and her little dog, Larry. Larry is an unruly kid but otherwise okay. His mom? Wearing her pink Trump hat. Oh jeez. She isn’t just generally annoying, she’s a Trumper to boot. I pick up the pace, greeting her, as park etiquette requires, from as much distance as I can get.

Then Buddy stopped a bit too long to sniff and pee. Here she comes running, dragging poor little Larry along, to catch up to us. I groan, in NO mood whatsoever in my current rage at all things Trump GOP to force even casual civility. As they got close, Buddy the Hero, planted himself solidly in front of me, bared his teeth and snarled. LOL

The thing is, I knew he wasn’t snarling at Larry. He loves other dogs, Larry included. It worked. She quickly backed away, assuming it was a dog thing, with a happy “we’ll talk later!” Yeah, no, don’t think so.

We don’t deserve dogs.

What kind of world are you living in where the furbaby you can’t trust is your cat, and the one you can is your dog?

Our Lab is unquestionably the one that we pretty much can’t even sleep in another room from, which is great when my parents are in town, but not good when I can’t sleep in my own bed—or theirs—because they’re out of town.👿

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danarchy  May 16, 2019 • 1:34:16pm

re: #172 lawhawk

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What’s with the messed up aspect ratio on that trailer?

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 1:35:22pm

re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Deep State coverup

Perhaps even the sinister hand of the Clinton Foundation was involved!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 16, 2019 • 1:36:29pm

FAKE NEWS ! ! !

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2019 • 1:37:44pm
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Interesting Times  May 16, 2019 • 1:38:49pm

re: #177 allegro

Then Buddy stopped a bit too long to sniff and pee. Here she comes running, dragging poor little Larry along, to catch up to us. I groan, in NO mood whatsoever in my current rage at all things Trump GOP to force even casual civility. As they got close, Buddy the Hero, planted himself solidly in front of me, bared his teeth and snarled. LOL

Heh. That reminds me of a section in Gavin de Becker’s book “The Gift of Fear” - he described how some people wait to see how their dog reacts to a stranger before deciding whether said stranger is trustworthy/good or not. De Becker says that if the dog reacts negatively, it’s not because they’re picking up on the stranger’s bad character - they’re actually reacting to distress cues from their owners, and then their protective instincts kick in.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 16, 2019 • 1:39:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2019 • 1:39:14pm

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

I feel you. I’ve been investigating quick healthy meals i.e. stuff that I can cook in less than 30 minutes using minimal dishes. There are some options but it is challenging. The last thing that I want to do after getting home from work and saying hi to my pets and dealing with the days mail and whatever else is cook.

Sometimes I will also cook a large batch of something when I have the time and then eat off it for like four days.

salmon/tuna/swordfish filet in parchment with veg of your choice (broccoli, asparagus, green beans, whatever) with lemon or (my fave) a bit of mango chutney.
prep time is about 5-10 minutes, then 20 minutes in the oven at 400F.

Disgustingly healthy and very tasty

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2019 • 1:39:38pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 16, 2019 • 1:40:12pm
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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 1:40:39pm

re: #186 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Oh goodie, we can go back to being afraid of aluminum tubes again!

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 1:41:27pm

re: #189 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Can’t wait to hear how he’s more better than whoever the Dems nominate from people who insist the LP is a serious party.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2019 • 1:41:34pm

re: #189 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Wait wait wait.

The dude’s name is VERMIN???

Talk about facing an uphill battle with voters…

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jaunte  May 16, 2019 • 1:42:40pm
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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 1:43:35pm

re: #189 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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He’s promising a free pony to every American. Neither Biden or Trump are promising ponies. I feel like the choice is made for me.

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plansbandc  May 16, 2019 • 1:44:26pm

Well, we finally get to know what happened to Drew, and whoa!

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2019 • 1:44:43pm

Filming of “Plot Against America”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2019 • 1:45:06pm
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Chrysicat  May 16, 2019 • 1:46:04pm

re: #186 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Also:

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Chrysicat  May 16, 2019 • 1:47:49pm

re: #192 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait wait wait.

The dude’s name is VERMIN???

Talk about facing an uphill battle with voters…

He actually named himself that, to make matters worse.

I would suspect it started out as a Net alias and eventually he chose to change it officially. Though why he’d go to that extra step when Theodore Beale didn’t I don’t know.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 16, 2019 • 1:48:13pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2019 • 1:49:34pm

re: #137 Mike Lamb

She’s gone full 1488.

She’s always been a full 1488.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 16, 2019 • 1:50:10pm

By the way, apparently Chelsea Manning is being sent back to jail again
So, she basically got a weeks furlough

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allegro  May 16, 2019 • 1:52:32pm

re: #185 Interesting Times

Heh. That reminds me of a section in Gavin de Becker’s book “The Gift of Fear” - he described how some people wait to see how their dog reacts to a stranger before deciding whether said stranger is trustworthy/good or not. De Becker says that if the dog reacts negatively, it’s not because they’re picking up on the stranger’s bad character - they’re actually reacting to distress cues from their owners, and then their protective instincts kick in.

I think that’s mostly true. I am completely convinced after a long lifetime shared with dogs that they are sensitive/empathetic to the point of mind-reading. I have no doubt that’s what happened with Buddy this morning. That said, I have had experiences when my dogs have reacted negatively to someone for no apparent reason that I know I didn’t communicate and that are otherwise unexplainable. Yeah, I trust the dogs and back away.

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 1:53:05pm

The paper that made such an utter hash of its coverage in the lead-up to the last war that most of its counterparts took turns accusing it of being the WH’s mouthpiece and it felt compelled once the truth came out to issue an public apology to its readers…thinks the smartest thing it can do when a new administration is trying to start another war is hire back the woman who was responsible for that coverage.

I can see no negative repercussions from this decision./////////

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2019 • 1:55:17pm

re: #195 plansbandc

Well, we finally get to know what happened to Drew, and whoa!

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whoa indeed

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makeitstop  May 16, 2019 • 1:56:20pm

re: #204 Targetpractice

The paper that made such an utter hash of its coverage in the lead-up to the last war that most of its counterparts took turns accusing it of being the WH’s mouthpiece and it felt compelled once the truth came out to issue an public apology to its readers…thinks the smartest thing it can do when a new administration is trying to start another war is hire back the woman who was responsible for that coverage.

I can see no negative repercussions from this decision./////////

It’s the Onion

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Mescalero  May 16, 2019 • 1:56:45pm

re: #184 gocart mozart

And since the very first day I have called it Gabagool.
You should see the looks I get.
“Hah!??”
Like wooder.
And YO.
Philly owns YO.
Yo.

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jaunte  May 16, 2019 • 1:58:09pm
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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 2:01:14pm

re: #206 makeitstop

It’s the Onion

I picked the wrong week to quit drinking.

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2019 • 2:03:11pm

re: #209 Targetpractice

I picked the wrong week to quit drinking.

//

The line between satire and reality has long since been erased. The Onion really have to work hard these days to stand out as parody

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Targetpractice  May 16, 2019 • 2:03:53pm

re: #208 jaunte

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Bill Nelson is still waiting on that apology.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 2:05:10pm

re: #208 jaunte

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You know, call me crazy but I definitely think it’s possible that the votes were fucked with in a lot of key states.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2019 • 2:05:46pm

re: #212 HappyWarrior

You know, call me crazy but I definitely think it’s possible that the votes were fucked with in a lot of key states.

That is the last thing that they want you to even think, much less find out

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 2:07:12pm

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is the last thing that they want you to even think, much less find out

Well I’m never going to find it out. TBH I don’t know what they did or did not do definitively but they are succeeding in what they wanted to do from the beginning and that’s to cause distrust in our systems. And Trump and his allies don’t care because they control the presidency and will the judiciary and have half of the legislature.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 16, 2019 • 2:07:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2019 • 2:08:34pm

Two videos showing how to use parchment for cooking fish.
Trust me, once you know how to do it this way, it will be your go-to method always.

How to Cook Fish in Parchment

Easiest Salmon Ever (Salmon in Heart Shaped Parchment) | The Tastemakers-Frankie Celenza

PS: I cheat and use Kroger Homes Sense 10-3/4x15” parchment sheets because I got tired of fighting with parchment rolling up on me.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2019 • 2:08:46pm

re: #98 gocart mozart

Roy Edroso
@edroso
* 19h
Now that this ball is rolling, a lot of prominent conservatives are going to reveal themselves to be total psychopaths. (Though, to be honest, I think we all knew about this guy already.)

Matt Walsh

@MattWalshBlog
If a 12 year old is raped by her father and the father takes her to get an abortion, the evidence of the crime will be destroyed and he will go on molesting his victim for years. If however the child is born, his crime will be discovered and she will be rescued from the abuse.

One woman dying was enough for Catholic Ireland to repeal its no-abortion law. My guess is that the “pro-life” community here wouldn’t care if a million women perished, especially if they weren’t white.

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plansbandc  May 16, 2019 • 2:12:22pm

re: #212 HappyWarrior

Thought that all along. No one, in Trump’s camp including Trump himself expected to win. And Trump did not look happy at all about winning.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 2:13:35pm

re: #217 Hecuba’s daughter

One woman dying was enough for Catholic Ireland to repeal its no-abortion law. My guess that the “pro-life” community here wouldn’t care if a million women perished, especially if they weren’t white.

Here’s what troubles me about all these laws. It’s a general trend moving backwards on issues. We should be strengthening not weakening the right to choose. Ireland to its credit has moved forward on choice and LGBT issues. It’s a wonderful country. I actually studied there but I never thought in my wildest dreams that they would be more socially progressive than we are.

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Mike Lamb  May 16, 2019 • 2:13:40pm

re: #217 Hecuba’s daughter

One woman dying was enough for Catholic Ireland to repeal its no-abortion law. My guess that the “pro-life” community here wouldn’t care if a million women perished, especially if they weren’t white.

I’m skeptical of the validity of the stats. But taking them at face value, shouldn’t that be even more of a reason to include the exception?

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 2:14:51pm

re: #218 plansbandc

Thought that all along. No one, in Trump’s camp including Trump himself expected to win. And Trump did not look happy at all about winning.

Yeah I think he thought HRC would win and he would be able to be treated as like a Shadow President by the right who would reject everything that Clinton would do and he wouldn’t have to work too hard. He seems to hate the actual Presidenting parts of president. He loves the prestigious parts.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 2:15:22pm

re: #220 Mike Lamb

I’m skeptical of the validity of the stats. But taking them at face value, shouldn’t that be even more of a reason to include the exception?

You would think but these people are assholes.

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Belafon  May 16, 2019 • 2:17:41pm

re: #217 Hecuba’s daughter

One woman dying was enough for Catholic Ireland to repeal its no-abortion law. My guess is that the “pro-life” community here wouldn’t care if a million women perished, especially if they weren’t white.

I’m sure it wasn’t the super-Catholics that got the law overturned; it was the people who hadn’t paid much attention to the consequences.

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Citizen K  May 16, 2019 • 2:18:06pm

It honestly feels like shit is never going to get better no matter how hard we fight.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2019 • 2:18:46pm

re: #223 Belafon

I’m sure it wasn’t the super-Catholics that got the law overturned; it was the people who hadn’t paid much attention to the consequences.

it was the women, including those who flew back from far flung spots around the globe just to vote on the issue.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 2:19:03pm

re: #223 Belafon

I’m sure it wasn’t the super-Catholics that got the law overturned; it was the people who hadn’t paid much attention to the consequences.

The country thankfully has seen that the RCC is as flawed institution as any other in recent years.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 2:19:46pm

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

it was the women, including those who flew back from far flung spots around the globe just to vote on the issue.

I was surprised though how overwhelmingly it passed. I think Donegal was the only county where it didn’t pass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2019 • 2:20:13pm

re: #227 HappyWarrior

I was surprised though how overwhelmingly it passed. I think Donegal was the only county where it didn’t pass.

Irish women are not to be trifled with

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 2:21:13pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

Irish women are not to be trifled with

Oh yes, I know my Grand Aunts by reputation.

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Mike Lamb  May 16, 2019 • 2:22:27pm

re: #224 Citizen K

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It honestly feels like shit is never going to get better no matter how hard we fight.

The federal judiciary below the SCOTUS level will bounce back quickly. There is a lot of annual turnover.

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Citizen K  May 16, 2019 • 2:22:32pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

Irish women are not to be trifled with

Meanwhile we have a majority of White Women who seem content to mortgage their own bodily autonomy in order to trigger the libs. Yes, laws like in Alabama poll barely higher than smallpox, but people still turn around and vote almost solely for the fucks that make these laws reality.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2019 • 2:25:45pm

re: #227 HappyWarrior

I was surprised though how overwhelmingly it passed. I think Donegal was the only county where it didn’t pass.

I think the problem here is that I could see it pass by a wide margin on a nationwide basis — but fail in GOP-lead states. The Senate would not allow such legislation to pass to protect women nationally. The only way for there to be a change in attitude is if some senior GOP officials lose loved ones because of this heinous legislation, and that won’t happen because they will just send people out of state or out of the country to have the procedure performed on them.

In Ireland, the woman who died was too ill to travel elsewhere.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 16, 2019 • 2:26:42pm

Chicago PD press conference. They have 3 people in custody for the murder of the pregnant 19yo woman. The baby was still
In her womb and they removed it. The baby is on life support in critical condition.

Sure hope there’s a special place in Hell for those 3. Two of them are mother/daughter.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 2:28:15pm

re: #232 Hecuba’s daughter

I think the problem here is that I could see it pass by a wide margin on a nationwide basis — but fail in GOP-lead states. The Senate would not allow such legislation to pass to protect women nationally. The only way for there to be a change in attitude is if some senior GOP officials lose loved ones because of this heinous legislation, and that won’t happen because they will just send people out of state or out of the country to have the procedure performed on them.

In Ireland, the woman who died was too ill to travel elsewhere.

No doubt. TBH I don’t advise doing what the Irish did with SSM and abortion rights being put up to the vote like that. I think certain rights like that are ingrained in our Constitution but what I was getting at was that I was surprised that abortion being legally wasn’t something that was just popular in the Irish Republic’s cities such as Dublin or Galway where I studied but it also passed in rural areas too as did SSM. What I think we’re going to need to do is have a federal bill that strengthens the right to choose. .

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 2:29:39pm

independent.co.uk
It’s happening in Poland too.

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2019 • 2:31:33pm
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Mescalero  May 16, 2019 • 2:34:19pm

have a good evening all.

Tom Waits - Mr Siegal , live

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2019 • 2:37:49pm

re: #234 HappyWarrior

No doubt. TBH I don’t advise doing what the Irish did with SSM and abortion rights being put up to the vote like that. I think certain rights like that are ingrained in our Constitution but what I was getting at was that I was surprised that abortion being legally wasn’t something that was just popular in the Irish Republic’s cities such as Dublin or Galway where I studied but it also passed in rural areas too as did SSM. What I think we’re going to need to do is have a federal bill that strengthens the right to choose. .

I think the Irish powers that be that put the abortion question up to a vote by the people had no freaking clue what door they opened.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 2:38:49pm

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think the Irish powers that be that put the abortion question up to a vote by the people had no freaking clue what door they opened.

I think so too.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 16, 2019 • 2:41:36pm

“… The station reports the smell was “chemical-like” and 50 people “were affected by it,” including the two employees who were hospitalized.

Video of the scene shows multiple fire trucks, ambulances and other emergency vehicles filling a nearby road, as media helicopters fly over.

WTKR reports the unidentified veteran’s urine sample was taken to a lab in Richmond for further study. …”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 16, 2019 • 2:44:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2019 • 2:44:42pm

re: #240 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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could be that he binged on asparagus…it’s amazing how bad that can stink up a urine sample

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2019 • 2:46:35pm

re: #241 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Mike Lamb  May 16, 2019 • 2:47:19pm

re: #241 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Just a process crime…

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Mescalero  May 16, 2019 • 2:48:27pm

re: #240 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Imagine his wife….

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 16, 2019 • 2:49:47pm
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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 2:51:23pm

The plot thickens.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 2:51:49pm

re: #246 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

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She’s right.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 16, 2019 • 2:51:52pm
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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 2:53:11pm

re: #249 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Of course. DeVos doesn’t give a fuck about American students.

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Chrysicat  May 16, 2019 • 2:53:21pm
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gocart mozart  May 16, 2019 • 2:55:59pm
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Chrysicat  May 16, 2019 • 2:59:15pm

Edited my tweet-thread by deleting the previous final one. Hadn’t realised I’d jumped tracks with it until after it posted.

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allegro  May 16, 2019 • 3:03:48pm
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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 16, 2019 • 3:04:22pm
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Citizen K  May 16, 2019 • 3:04:40pm

re: #230 Mike Lamb

The federal judiciary below the SCOTUS level will bounce back quickly. There is a lot of annual turnover.

This assumes that Trump won’t get even more justices shoved through in the next coming year, and that we have a Congress that would ever dare allow a Dem president’s judges to ever make it. A huge reason why Trump had as many vacancies as he did was the GOP stonewalling as many of Obama’s attempts to fill vacancies as possible, and unless we own Congress wholly, it’s going to happen again on steroids

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 16, 2019 • 3:05:37pm

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Begs the fucking question. Why are kids in their custody? Fucking assholes. Fuck them.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2019 • 3:09:42pm

I absolutely REFUSE to believe this country cannot survive Trump. America is better than the orange shitgibbon would have you believe.

I’m not going to stop fighting.

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jaunte  May 16, 2019 • 3:11:21pm
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jaunte  May 16, 2019 • 3:11:32pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2019 • 3:13:31pm

re: #259 jaunte

Do most women even realize they are pregnant at eight weeks?

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Chrysicat  May 16, 2019 • 3:14:12pm

re: #258 Eclectic Cyborg

I absolutely REFUSE to believe this country cannot survive Trump. America is better than the orange shitgibbon would have you believe.

I’m not going to stop fighting.

“This country”, as in 50 near-sovereign-to-sovereign States under a supranational government, SHOULDN’T survive Trump. If it does, we’ll just have the same sets of problems over and over again because they’re INHERENT IN THE CONSTITUTION and it basically is incapable of being amended in our favour unless we somehow gain majorities in 20 currently-red states.

At this point, I’m much more devoted to making sure that the “ideals this country was theoretically founded on” are revived after Trump.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2019 • 3:14:19pm

re: #260 jaunte

Let me venture a guess how many of those 24 were male…

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2019 • 3:22:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2019 • 3:22:14pm

re: #261 Eclectic Cyborg

Do most women even realize they are pregnant at eight weeks?

they do not

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Citizen K  May 16, 2019 • 3:23:00pm

Example #300,000,000,000 of why nothing will ever change: no matter what, it’s the Dems’ fault, and the GOP will never be given incentive to not lie and hate about everything. GOP accountability is a fucking lie and it always fucking will be, and fighting for it will only ever get you crucified all the more.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 3:23:46pm

re: #264 gocart mozart

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Great job.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 3:24:30pm

re: #266 Citizen K

[Embedded content]

Example #300,000,000,000 of why nothing will ever change: no matter what, it’s the Dems’ fault, and the GOP will never be given incentive to not lie and hate about everything. GOP accountability is a fucking lie and it always fucking will be, and fighting for it will only ever get you crucified all the more.

So sick of this shit. Call it what it is, a lie designed to incite.

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Decatur Deb  May 16, 2019 • 3:25:07pm

Reddit has given my last, brave, failed candidate a top view for her response to Gov Ivey and the Montgomery neanderthals:

reddit.com

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allegro  May 16, 2019 • 3:27:08pm

re: #261 Eclectic Cyborg

Do most women even realize they are pregnant at eight weeks?

Most probably do at that point or at least suspect enough to get a pregnancy test. However, there’s a lot more to consider, like $. Abortions aren’t cheap. It can take time to raise the money. There are also availability issues - where is there a clinic? When can I get an appointment? And work issues - when can I get a day off? Try to squeeze all that into maybe a week.

It’s a ban.

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jaunte  May 16, 2019 • 3:29:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2019 • 3:30:22pm

re: #261 Eclectic Cyborg

Do most women even realize they are pregnant at eight weeks?

also, I can tell you when I knew I was pregnant.
It wasn’t when I missed a period.
It was when I miscarried.

Every single time.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 3:31:22pm

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

also, I can tell you when I knew I was pregnant.
It wasn’t when I missed a period.
It was when I miscarried.

Every single time.

And these legislators want to investigate miscarriages too. Scary shit.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 16, 2019 • 3:33:34pm

re: #271 jaunte

It looks like Mueller has evidence of people in congress obstructing justice. I bet Devin Nunes is worried.

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allegro  May 16, 2019 • 3:34:16pm

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

also, I can tell you when I knew I was pregnant.
It wasn’t when I missed a period.
It was when I miscarried.

Every single time.

I knew I was pregnant but the tests kept coming up negative. They said, wait another week. Negative again. Finally, visual inspection and yeah, pretty sure you’re pregnant but gotta have that positive test. It only came up positive at about 12 weeks.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 3:34:30pm

re: #274 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

It looks like Mueller has evidence of people in congress obstructing justice. I bet Devin Nunes is worried.

He should be.

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Chrysicat  May 16, 2019 • 3:35:23pm

re: #273 HappyWarrior

And these legislators want to investigate miscarriages too. Scary shit.

Basically, so far as I can tell, part of the effect is to make it effectively-illegal for any woman between menarche and menopause to consume alcohol, because if she does and then damages a zygote/embryo she has no idea she’s carrying, she trips the circuits in the law.

And this being amabama, there’s no way they’re gonna avoid drinking for 35 years.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2019 • 3:37:19pm
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calochortus  May 16, 2019 • 3:37:25pm

re: #274 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

It looks like Mueller has evidence of people in congress obstructing justice. I bet Devin Nunes is worried.

I hope so.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 16, 2019 • 4:28:19pm

re: #186 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Judith Miller should have been indicted for murder.

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Eventual Carrion  May 16, 2019 • 4:50:02pm

re: #250 HappyWarrior

Of course. DeVos doesn’t give a fuck about American students.

She fucking makes money off it.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 17, 2019 • 7:07:18am

re: #120 KGxvi

No, wait, seven of them… Neutral Good, Chaotic Good (very rarely, but occasionally), Lawful Neutral, True Neutral, Chaotic Neutral, Lawful Evil, Neutral Evil; depending on the mood and/or situation

Which is why the so-called “alignment system” is so crappy.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 17, 2019 • 7:23:53am

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

I feel you. I’ve been investigating quick healthy meals i.e. stuff that I can cook in less than 30 minutes using minimal dishes. There are some options but it is challenging. The last thing that I want to do after getting home from work and saying hi to my pets and dealing with the days mail and whatever else is cook.

Sometimes I will also cook a large batch of something when I have the time and then eat off it for like four days.

Though I am now retired and thus have more time for cooking and dishes I found that getting home from work and cooking was not that arduous an activity. Routine was was a quick sort of the mail when I got home; e.g. the junk stuff went into a trash can down in the mail room and never made it into the apartment. Pets were greeted as I came in and put my bag and mail on the desk. Pets were then fed since I was usually getting home at their regular feeding time. (If I was early I did a bit of dinner prep and then fed them.)

Depending on planned meal I might have thawed things in the fridge overnight or picked something up on the walk home. Since I was only cooking for one it was pretty easy to make something like a sauce for 3-4 meals and then use that for multiple meals. And from experience putting together a quick red sauce for pasta was a fairly quick process - and the idle time while it simmered and pasta cooked was time to spend with pets or fix something to drink.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 17, 2019 • 7:33:10am

re: #230 Mike Lamb

The federal judiciary below the SCOTUS level will bounce back quickly. There is a lot of annual turnover.

Only if there is a sufficient majority in the Senate of Democrats. Otherwise any non-GOP administration will have its appointments blocked as effectively as the GOP can do so. They have learned that it works as a strategy and won’t simply give it up.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 17, 2019 • 7:38:55am

re: #258 Eclectic Cyborg

I absolutely REFUSE to believe this country cannot survive Trump. America is better than the orange shitgibbon would have you believe.

I’m not going to stop fighting.

It’s not surviving Trump that scares me. It’s the groundwork that has been laid via Trump for further erosion of the social foundation that the country’s stability depends on.

A minority thinking they can roll back the country (or world) to 1850 mores is delusional. It’s a bit like France (and the UK) expecting that post-WW2 that they were going to easily reimpose their colonial empires.


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