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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 16, 2019 • 8:18:24pm
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plansbandc  May 16, 2019 • 8:24:35pm

re: #1 Joe Bacon 🌹

Imagine having your family make an attack ad against you. He must be absolutely insufferable.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 8:26:12pm

re: #1 Joe Bacon 🌹

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It’s such a pathetically stupid attack especially given that he supports the guy who you know is an admirer of the guy who you know worked for the KGB. Gosar is such a loser if he thinks this is a winning issue.

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jaunte  May 16, 2019 • 8:34:23pm
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jaunte  May 16, 2019 • 8:35:01pm
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jaunte  May 16, 2019 • 8:55:41pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 16, 2019 • 8:56:54pm
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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 8:57:22pm

re: #6 jaunte

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Brit, do you ever shut the fuck up about things you know shit little about? It’s reproductive rights because it’s your choice about what to do. But I wouldn’t expect a right wing hack with nary an original thought to get that.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 8:58:08pm

re: #7 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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We definitely I think have a case for obstruction.

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Dr Lizardo  May 16, 2019 • 9:00:45pm

re: #7 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

And I don’t think anyone would be surprised in the slightest if it was Nunes.

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jaunte  May 16, 2019 • 9:04:11pm
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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 9:04:17pm

re: #10 Dr Lizardo

And I don’t think anyone would be surprised in the slightest if it was Nunes.

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Nunes is my bet but Jordan would not surprise either or Meadows. A lot of these Congressional R’s definitely seek to be on message with the Trump WH.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 9:05:34pm

re: #11 jaunte

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Barr is the AG that Trump thought Sessions would be for him. How bad is it that Sessions looks fairly honorable by comparison.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2019 • 9:07:20pm

re: #1 Joe Bacon 🌹

The name Gosar seemed familiar. It took a few minutes — I was originally thinking Ghostbusters — and then remembered the Congressman whose opponent ran that wonderful commercial featuring Gosar’s family.

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Ace-o-aces  May 16, 2019 • 9:20:48pm
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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2019 • 9:25:02pm

re: #15 Ace-o-aces

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She’s always described herself as pro choice but at the same time, she’s never supported pro choice candidates either. She’s going to see how the right is to ideological heretics tho.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2019 • 9:25:47pm

re: #15 Ace-o-aces

Did Tomi really have two abortions?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 16, 2019 • 9:29:42pm

Ali Velshi shuts down Hugh Hewitt…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 16, 2019 • 9:32:14pm

re: #18 Joe Bacon 🌹

Ali Velshi shuts down Hugh Hewitt…

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There is NO difference between Hugh Hewitt today and Vlad Posner of the USSR in the 70s.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2019 • 9:42:18pm

re: #19 Joe Bacon 🌹

There is NO difference between Hugh Hewitt today and Vlad Posner of the USSR in the 70s.

What? Why are you insulting Vlad Posner? It’s been a long time but I don’t recall his ever spewing the same nonsense as Hugh Hewitt.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 16, 2019 • 10:12:42pm

re: #20 Hecuba’s daughter

What? Why are you insulting Vlad Posner? It’s been a long time but I don’t recall his ever spewing the same nonsense as Hugh Hewitt.

Just as Posner repeated anything that the Soviet Communist Party decreed Hewitt does the exact same thing for the Republican Party!

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2019 • 10:27:14pm

re: #21 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just as Posner repeated anything that the Soviet Communist Party decreed Hewitt does the exact same thing for the Republican Party!

Vlad was a Russian spokesman — so you’d expect that of him but he is far more charming than Hewitt and apparently he has since repented of his service as a propagandist for the Soviet Union.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 16, 2019 • 10:27:22pm

Ha ha ha.

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austin_blue  May 16, 2019 • 10:36:11pm

Once the Flynn tape is investigated, the conspiracy to obstruct justice will begin. Whoever talked to him him is going to prison. Whoever asked *that* guy to make the call is going to prison, etc.

If Nunes, for instance, was the caller, is he going to happily go to the gray bar motel for Drumpf, not revealing whoever asked him to do the “favor”? Is the guy who asked him to do it going to fall on his sword? Once you start drilling down, you’ll eventually get to the Tangerine Shitgibbon.

Flynn knew he was fucked, and accepted his guilt in affecting the election.

This should be the headline. The Drumpf Campaign affirmatively accepted the aid of a hostile foreign power to influence the 2016 election. Full stop.

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plansbandc  May 16, 2019 • 10:37:29pm

Hippotato

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austin_blue  May 16, 2019 • 10:45:35pm

re: #25 plansbandc

Hippotato

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Two points:

1) That is one ugly and artfully cleaned tuber to make it look like a hippo.

2) Who the HELL has got that much hair on their thumb joint and the back of their hand? I’m just sayin’. It’s entirely possible that aliens are living among us and growing mutant ‘taters.

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goddamnedfrank  May 16, 2019 • 11:19:07pm

Will Menaker of the Chapo Trap House assholes caught a very deserved temporary Twitter ban and his friends are taking it extremely well.

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Chrysicat  May 16, 2019 • 11:24:35pm
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Sufficient unto the day...  May 16, 2019 • 11:32:38pm

re: #27 goddamnedfrank

THEY WANT TO USE THE WHITE HOUSE’S SOCIAL MEDIA BIAS WEB PAGE FOR THIS.

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goddamnedfrank  May 16, 2019 • 11:34:45pm

re: #27 goddamnedfrank

Trenchant commentary from Katherine

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 16, 2019 • 11:35:55pm

The Guardian pushes for war against Iran.

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Chrysicat  May 16, 2019 • 11:39:14pm

re: #31 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

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The Guardian pushes for war against Iran.

That makes absolutely no sense! They aren’t just liberal, they’re pretty much leftist! Why are they carrying the Fanta Menace’s water?

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goddamnedfrank  May 16, 2019 • 11:45:46pm

More of this please!

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Teukka  May 16, 2019 • 11:46:48pm

Y’all seen this shit?

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Chrysicat  May 17, 2019 • 12:05:16am
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Patricia Kayden  May 17, 2019 • 1:06:06am

re: #1 Joe Bacon 🌹

The entire GOP is under Putin’s thumb so why are they pretending to be alarmed by communism? McConnell won’t even allow bills to be brought up which would strengthen and protect our election system from outside interference. Please!

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Teukka  May 17, 2019 • 1:08:29am

re: #36 Patricia Kayden

The entire GOP is under Putin’s thumb so why are they pretending to be alarmed by communism? McConnell won’t even allow bills to be brought up which would strengthen and protect our election system from outside interference. Please!

Pretty ancient diversionary tactic, appear to be very afraid of what you’re secretly supporting.

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Targetpractice  May 17, 2019 • 2:30:49am

re: #6 jaunte

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Perhaps Brit would like to explain why, if the case for bans is so strong, do proponents insist upon emotional appeals with words like “babies,” “murder,” and “genocide”? Is it because the objective arguments for such bans are so weak, the only means of gaining support is emotionally blackmailing voters?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2019 • 2:43:05am

re: #38 Targetpractice

Perhaps Brit would like to explain why, if the case for bans is so strong, do proponents insist upon emotional appeals with words like “babies,” “murder,” and “genocide”? Is it because the objective arguments for such bans are so weak, the only means of gaining support is emotionally blackmailing voters?

It’s all about

abortion = killing babies

Roe v Wade = The Wannsee Conference

“They wrap the baby up, then they decide whether to murder it”

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Dr Lizardo  May 17, 2019 • 2:59:04am

In Brexit madness news, talks between the Tories and Labour have collapsed, with Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn withdrawing from further discussions.

theguardian.com

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 17, 2019 • 3:03:02am

re: #40 Dr Lizardo

I assume there is no one there willing to stop this entire process, because it would mean working against his/her own party.

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Dr Lizardo  May 17, 2019 • 3:07:26am

re: #41 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I assume there is no one there willing to stop this entire process, because it would mean working against his/her own party.

Pretty much.

Seems to me that the crew of the H.M.S. United Kingdom has decided they’re going down with the ship and they’re taking them passengers with them.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 17, 2019 • 3:21:42am

re: #42 Dr Lizardo

Pretty much.

Seems to me that the crew of the H.M.S. United Kingdom has decided they’re going down with the ship and they’re taking them passengers with them.

I have a feeling the Queen wishes she still had veto power over Parliament.

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Sufficient unto the day...  May 17, 2019 • 3:26:00am

re: #43 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I think she wants to play the Game with them…you know, the one whether you win or you die…

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 17, 2019 • 3:31:58am

re: #44 Sufficient unto the day…

I think she wants to play the Game with them…you know, the one whether you win or you die…

Parliament will lose its influence on European politics and international policy. Who’s going to listen to a country that once belonged to the European Union and decided to leave it, because some idiots think they can recreate 19th century Great Britain?

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Dr Lizardo  May 17, 2019 • 3:36:59am

re: #45 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Parliament will lose its influence on European politics and international policy. Who’s going to listen to a country that once belonged to the European Union and decided to leave it, because some idiots think they can recreate 19th century Great Britain?

Not only that, but if the worst comes to pass and the UK finds itself in a position where it has to re-join the EU, they’re certainly not going to get the various exemptions and outs they currently enjoy.

They’ll have to start using the Euro and sign up to the Schengen Zone. It’d be a massive humiliation for the Brits.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 17, 2019 • 3:41:05am

re: #46 Dr Lizardo

Not only that, but if the worst comes to pass and the UK finds itself in a position where it has to re-join the EU, they’re certainly not going to get the various exemptions and outs they currently enjoy.

They’ll have to start using the Euro and sign up to the Schengen Zone. It’d be a massive humiliation for the Brits.

I never thought I would live to see the day when the UK and USA both separate themselves from the rest of the world’s foreign affairs.

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Dr Lizardo  May 17, 2019 • 3:48:37am

Grumpy Cat (real name Tardar Sauce) has gone to the great kitty litter box in the sky.

bbc.com

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Shropshire Slasher  May 17, 2019 • 4:27:13am

re: #31 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

LOL! Prepare for proxy war? What do you think they have been doing for 40 years?!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 17, 2019 • 4:33:44am

It’s still early but we already have a nominee for jackass of the day:

Mass. teacher accused of planting live ammo at school, then calling police

A Southbridge teacher is accused of leaving ammunition in a school stairwell Thursday morning before calling police to report it.

Southbridge police said high school biology teacher Alfred Purcell III, 57, of Woodstock, Connecticut, reported to staff that he had just found one live round of 9 mm ammunition in the rear stairwell. The school was placed on lock down.

During the lockdown, police and Southbridge High School staff reviewed video footage and saw Purcell removing the live round of ammunition from his pocket, dropping it on the floor and quickly leaving the area, police said.

About 10 minutes later, the video shows Purcell standing over the ammunition and taking a picture of it with a cellphone, police said.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 17, 2019 • 4:42:09am

re: #48 Dr Lizardo

Daily Mail’s trip down memory lane of Grumpy Cat.

dailymail.co.uk

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Dr Lizardo  May 17, 2019 • 4:51:33am

Tyler, The Creator dropped a new album; it’s called Igor.

IGOR’S THEME

I’ve been listening to it - it’s good. Pretty different too.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 17, 2019 • 4:54:32am

Propaganda:

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Targetpractice  May 17, 2019 • 4:58:51am

Seems someone is having a difficult shit this morning:

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Dr Lizardo  May 17, 2019 • 5:02:24am

re: #54 Targetpractice

Yeah - sounds like he’s constipated. He could probably use some Metamucil or something.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 17, 2019 • 5:08:45am

Something from Fox News?

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jeffreyw  May 17, 2019 • 5:10:41am

Good morning!

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Dr Lizardo  May 17, 2019 • 5:11:14am

re: #56 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Something from Fox News?

Probably that story that broke about Flynn.

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Dave In Austin  May 17, 2019 • 5:14:06am

re: #57 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Meme
…DISAPPOINTMENT…..

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  May 17, 2019 • 5:16:27am

re: #58 Dr Lizardo

Probably that story that broke about Flynn.

Aha. Trump sounds worried now.

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Dr Lizardo  May 17, 2019 • 5:17:08am

re: #60 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Aha. Trump sounds worried now.

Increasingly so.

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Dr Lizardo  May 17, 2019 • 5:20:38am

This gif explains Trump’s problems pretty well.

Imgur

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Belafon  May 17, 2019 • 5:29:43am

re: #23 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

Ha ha ha.

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“If we were doing it, then the Democrats must have been doing it too.”

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jeffreyw  May 17, 2019 • 5:30:32am

re: #59 Dave In Austin

Meme
…DISAPPOINTMENT…..

Nothing but crumbs! I’m so giving this place a 1 star review on Yelp.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 17, 2019 • 5:30:36am
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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 5:40:24am

re: #58 Dr Lizardo

Probably that story that broke about Flynn.

I think so. He’s cracking.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 17, 2019 • 5:42:57am

moron

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Dr Lizardo  May 17, 2019 • 5:43:00am

re: #66 HappyWarrior

I think so. He’s cracking.

Slowly but surely, the walls are closing in. Little wonder he’s becoming increasingly, desperately unhinged.

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Ace-o-aces  May 17, 2019 • 5:46:54am

It’s just annoying.

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Ace-o-aces  May 17, 2019 • 5:47:33am
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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 5:50:27am

re: #68 Dr Lizardo

Slowly but surely, the walls are closing in. Little wonder he’s becoming increasingly, desperately unhinged.

He hasn’t had a lot of good news in a long time.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 5:51:50am

re: #69 Ace-o-aces

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It’s just annoying.

Because he has no idea what he’s talking about. This is a guy who calls cyber warfare “Cyber” and insists his adolescent son is an expert hacker.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 17, 2019 • 5:52:50am
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Sufficient unto the day...  May 17, 2019 • 5:53:48am

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Not just calling it “Cyber”, but saying “the Cyber”…I am almost legitimately triggered by that.

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Dr Lizardo  May 17, 2019 • 5:56:05am

OK, off to work. Back in a bit.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 5:56:06am

re: #74 Sufficient unto the day…

Not just calling it “Cyber”, but saying “the Cyber”…I am almost legitimately triggered by that.

Yeah that’s right. I cringe when he talks because there isn’t an important issue he thinks he knows a lot about that he knows squat.

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Decatur Deb  May 17, 2019 • 6:05:14am

Now Fate is just screwing with my emotions, here:

Roy Moore weighs AL Senate re-run despite GOP opposition
apnews.com

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makeitstop  May 17, 2019 • 6:11:13am

This Flynn story is quite interesting.

If he’s a fully signed-on, cooperating witness, Trump can’t stop him from providing information to investigators, right?

The House should issue a subpoena for him to appear. Like right now.

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Patricia Kayden  May 17, 2019 • 6:12:33am

re: #7 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Nunes acts as if he can get away with obstructing justice so it will be interesting to see if he will suffer any consequences now.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 6:13:25am

re: #78 makeitstop

This Flynn story is quite interesting.

If he’s a fully signed-on, cooperating witness, Trump can’t stop him from providing information to investigators, right?

The House should issue a subpoena for him to appear. Like right now.

Can’t see why he would. Flynn unlike McGahn wouldn’t have a client-lawyer relationship and he’s no longer NS Adviser. Flynn could really blow the whole roof.

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Patricia Kayden  May 17, 2019 • 6:15:25am

re: #70 Ace-o-aces

If these people are asylum seekers, they have a right to be here until their cases can be assessed by judges. Trump doesn’t have a say in that. Or he shouldn’t.

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Belafon  May 17, 2019 • 6:23:03am

In other words, Biden and Sanders are still riding name recognition.

h/t balloon-juice.com

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 6:25:03am

re: #82 Belafon

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In other words, Biden and Sanders are still riding name recognition.

h/t balloon-juice.com

Not good numbers for an incumbent. A lot can change between now and next November but we may have the opportunity for a big win.

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lawhawk  May 17, 2019 • 6:29:39am

re: #11 jaunte

You know, the more evidence that comes out showing that Trumpworld and GOPers in Congress obstructed justice on behalf of Trump (and perhaps at his explicit direction), the solution in the hands of the House is apparent:

Impeachment.

Impeach the fucker and refer the matter to the Senate to remove him from office. The evidence is clearly showing Trump engaged in widespread obstruction of justice and interfered in the ongoing investigations. Everything he’s spewing this morning on Twitter is because he knows something worse is about to drop.

His pattern is to tweet endlessly when bad news drops, because that’s how he thinks to deflect, deny, and obfuscate to take attention away from the additional bad news.

Let’s not forget, just hours ago we learned that Flynn was contacted by multiple people in Trumpworld and Congress to try and interfere with the investigation, and there’s at least one voice mail to that effect.

NAME the NAMES.

Let’s know who got caught obstructing justice on behalf of Trump and begin the process of indicting the fucker. None of these people should be above the law, despite Trump and Barr doing everything they can to do precisely that.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 17, 2019 • 6:30:46am

re: #22 Hecuba’s daughter

Vlad was a Russian spokesman — so you’d expect that of him but he is far more charming than Hewitt and apparently he has since repented of his service as a propagandist for the Soviet Union.

Seeing this late, but nope. He’s reverted. Although now he’s in service to Putin instead of the Politburo.

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Decatur Deb  May 17, 2019 • 6:33:36am

As the WWII generation dies, we will forget why Nazis need to be stopped dead.
As people like this lady die, we forget how hard they fought, and how far they moved us.

Unita Blackwell, civil rights pillar and first black woman mayor in Mississippi, dies at 86
Blackwell was an important pillar in the civil rights movement in the South. She served as a project director and field secretary for the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC), helping organize voter drives for African Americans across Mississippi. Those efforts landed her in jail at least 70 times, she said, for trying to register black Mississippians to vote.

mississippitoday.org

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Citizen K  May 17, 2019 • 6:35:08am

Barr still selling the Trump line of “Holy shit, gov’t spied on me and only me, and is totally in the tank for the CLintons!!!” and is willing to tear up the entire foundation of governance and law to Trump can be exalted.

We’re never getting out of this alive.

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lawhawk  May 17, 2019 • 6:35:46am

re: #82 Belafon

Do those folks know that there are elections this year? Are they registered to vote for this year? There are important local and state elections this year.

Every election matters. All elections matter, not just the presidential year ones.

The GOP needs to be thwarted and defeated at every level, precisely to stop the kind of misogynistic batcrap insane fuckery they’re engaging in at the state level in Alabama, Georgia, Missouri, Ohio, and elsewhere with the express intent to overturn Roe and knowing full well that these laws they just enacted would be unconstitutional as per Roe or Casey. Heck, they’ve even admitted that the laws they just enacted are unenforceable because there’s no way to do what they proposed.

That’s how insane the situation is, because they know that if somehow these laws get to the Supreme Court, they’ve got a stacked right wing extremist bench that will give them the holy grail of overturning Roe/Casey, and it wont be long before other civil rights and voting rights are directly attacked.

We’re already seeing the voting rights across multiple states under attack because Roberts overturned key provisions of the VRA despite the factual evidence showing that there’s still need for enforcement actions. The GOP controlled Congress refused to act to restore the VRA and provide new guidance, so we are watching the states where Democrats can be poised to gain seats in Congress or retake legislatures enacting new provisions to thwart voting access. Voter suppression methods are what the GOP is doing to make their changes permanent (coupled with the loading the courts with right wing extremists).

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 6:39:08am

re: #88 lawhawk

Do those folks know that there are elections this year? Are they registered to vote for this year? There are important local and state elections this year.

Every election matters. All elections matter, not just the presidential year ones.

The GOP needs to be thwarted and defeated at every level, precisely to stop the kind of misogynistic batcrap insane fuckery they’re engaging in at the state level in Alabama, Georgia, Missouri, Ohio, and elsewhere with the express intent to overturn Roe and knowing full well that these laws they just enacted would be unconstitutional as per Roe or Casey. Heck, they’ve even admitted that the laws they just enacted are unenforceable because there’s no way to do what they proposed.

That’s how insane the situation is, because they know that if somehow these laws get to the Supreme Court, they’ve got a stacked right wing extremist bench that will give them the holy grail of overturning Roe/Casey, and it wont be long before other civil rights and voting rights are directly attacked.

We’re already seeing the voting rights across multiple states under attack because Roberts overturned key provisions of the VRA despite the factual evidence showing that there’s still need for enforcement actions. The GOP controlled Congress refused to act to restore the VRA and provide new guidance, so we are watching the states where Democrats can be poised to gain seats in Congress or retake legislatures enacting new provisions to thwart voting access. Voter suppression methods are what the GOP is doing to make their changes permanent (coupled with the loading the courts with right wing extremists).

We have our state senate and house of delegates up here. And a Sheriff’s election.

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lawhawk  May 17, 2019 • 6:43:31am

re: #88 lawhawk

States with significant statewide or Congressional races:
Governor: Louisiana, Kentucky, and Mississippi.
Legislatures: Louisiana, Mississippi, the Virginia General Assembly, and New Jersey Assembly.

A handful of open Congressional seats: PA-12, NC-3, NC-9.

Plus all the local municipal elections that are too numerous to mention.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 6:46:08am

re: #90 lawhawk

States with significant statewide or Congressional races:
Governor: Louisiana, Kentucky, and Mississippi.
Legislatures: Louisiana, Mississippi, the Virginia General Assembly, and New Jersey Assembly.

A handful of open Congressional seats: PA-12, NC-3, NC-9.

Plus all the local municipal elections that are too numerous to mention.

Yep exactly. I met the guy who is running for my State Senate seat and he basically said that the Comstock defeat here was huge since she was a huge fundraiser for other Republicans in the district and state. These elections all matter. I’m going to be really disappointed if we do end up doing well this year and next but then 2021/2022 is disappointing because of amnesia and general apathy.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 17, 2019 • 6:59:19am

Felt like poking the cow a little bit this morning.

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Belafon  May 17, 2019 • 7:00:33am

The fact that Democrats running for president have to claim to be progressive is a good thing.

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Belafon  May 17, 2019 • 7:01:20am

And this will be the quick end to someone’s career:

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 17, 2019 • 7:02:53am

Many more like him in this tweet thread.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 7:03:40am

re: #94 Belafon

And this will be the quick end to someone’s career:

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I really wanted to give him a chance when he first ran for NYC’s mayor since he was the progressive minded mayor the city had elected since Dinkins but the New Yorkers I’ve talked to aren’t impressed at all by him.

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jaunte  May 17, 2019 • 7:17:01am
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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 7:18:39am

re: #97 jaunte

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That’s not a thing you lying witch. And your party supports the death penalty so no you’re not the party of life. Fuck off.

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jaunte  May 17, 2019 • 7:20:22am

Programmable puppet Ronna McDaniel will say whatever she’s told to.

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jaunte  May 17, 2019 • 7:21:10am

“Your name no longer includes Romney; your name is Reek.”

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makeitstop  May 17, 2019 • 7:21:39am

re: #97 jaunte

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‘Broad tent.’

Right. ‘You can join our party if you want to have a baby, or if we have to make you have one.’

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 7:23:40am

Ronna’s own aunt died to strict abortion laws. Typical Romney just like her uncle.

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lawhawk  May 17, 2019 • 7:45:20am

re: #96 HappyWarrior

I really wanted to give him a chance when he first ran for NYC’s mayor since he was the progressive minded mayor the city had elected since Dinkins but the New Yorkers I’ve talked to aren’t impressed at all by him.

He’s been meh… universal pre-k is a big feather in his cap, but he’s been awful most everywhere else. There’s a huge housing scandal at NYCHA that culminated with the feds getting involved (yeah, it was that bad). They lied about lead abatement/testing, and kids were found to have high lead levels.

There’s also his failures on Vision Zero (reduce pedestrian fatalities) by not prioritizing mass transit sufficiently. Mass transit is actually controlled by Gov. Cuomo, and the two have been at odds every step of the way. But DeBlasio hasn’t done enough within his control to improve things, like prioritizing buses/mass transit on streets over cars, and his fights with Cuomo subvert everything else he might be doing.

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Belafon  May 17, 2019 • 7:49:56am
[The] new debate criteria set by the Democratic National Committee was also factor. Not only was the stage opened to 20 candidates, but the qualifying standards were set extremely low: Candidates had to reach either a very low polling threshold or get 65,000 unique donors, metrics that are both objective and largely out of the hands of party actors. Usually, winnowing happens early on when candidates try and fail to win encouragement from party actors. This time, however, candidates can simply focus on reaching a qualifying goal rather than assessing the reaction they got from party officials or key politicians.

bloomberg.com

Wouldn’t it be great if Sanders’ changes caused the demise of his unique white guy status?

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lawhawk  May 17, 2019 • 7:52:00am

re: #94 Belafon

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Sir John Barron  May 17, 2019 • 7:54:30am

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

ridiculous Catch & Telease

Sounds like a great policy, this Catch and Telease.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 7:57:58am

re: #103 lawhawk

He’s been meh… universal pre-k is a big feather in his cap, but he’s been awful most everywhere else. There’s a huge housing scandal at NYCHA that culminated with the feds getting involved (yeah, it was that bad). They lied about lead abatement/testing, and kids were found to have high lead levels.

There’s also his failures on Vision Zero (reduce pedestrian fatalities) by not prioritizing mass transit sufficiently. Mass transit is actually controlled by Gov. Cuomo, and the two have been at odds every step of the way. But DeBlasio hasn’t done enough within his control to improve things, like prioritizing buses/mass transit on streets over cars, and his fights with Cuomo subvert everything else he might be doing.

Gotcha. I’m not a huge Cuomo fan tbh but at least he gets crap done. DeBlasio just seems uninterested in governing and I really distrust politicians like that.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 7:58:41am

re: #104 Belafon

bloomberg.com

Wouldn’t it be great if Sanders’ changes caused the demise of his unique white guy status?

I’m enjoying seeing Warren overtake him.

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jaunte  May 17, 2019 • 8:05:46am
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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 8:10:27am

re: #109 jaunte

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Didn’t be brush Obama aside when Obama warned him about Flynn? And Flynn’s affinity for Russia and Putin was public knowledge. No one forced Trump to make Flynn an adviser, vet him for VP, and then to make him his National Security Adviser. And remember when Flynn was revealed to have lied to investigators, Trump kept on talking about how Flynn was being wronged. Trump is upset now because Flynn may be playing the role of Joe Valachi in this farce.

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jaunte  May 17, 2019 • 8:14:02am
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Mescalero  May 17, 2019 • 8:14:29am

re: #57 jeffreyw

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 8:15:39am

Mr. I only hire the best people is mad because the experts the same ones he dismissed didn’t warn him that Flynn was under investigation. I guarantee if they had said something, he’d claimed that they were persecuting Flynn.

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lawhawk  May 17, 2019 • 8:17:10am

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Going in, I thought Cuomo would be good, but he’s been awful. He thinks he’s the next Robert Moses - complete with making all of the same Robert Moses mistakes, including refusing to build out mass transit when doing various bridge projects, and he’s basically screwed the MTA at every opportunity, all while blaming everyone else when the MTA screws up (he’s ultimately the only one responsible for the MTA by law).

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 8:19:09am

re: #114 lawhawk

Going in, I thought Cuomo would be good, but he’s been awful. He thinks he’s the next Robert Moses - complete with making all of the same Robert Moses mistakes, including refusing to build out mass transit when doing various bridge projects, and he’s basically screwed the MTA at every opportunity, all while blaming everyone else when the MTA screws up (he’s ultimately the only one responsible for the MTA by law).

It just sucks that the choice was between him and Nixon and then a Republican.

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jeffreyw  May 17, 2019 • 8:21:58am

re: #112 Wah Gwaan?!

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Dance, Jaybird! Dance! I am not entertained!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 17, 2019 • 8:27:09am

INTERACTIVE MAP: See Your Texas School District’s Vaccination Rate

In 72 school districts across Texas, less than 90% of kindergartners have the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine, according to data provided by the Texas Department of State Health Services and analyzed by News 88.7.

The data includes coverage levels for a variety of required vaccines, such as polio, chickenpox and whooping cough (pertussis). Coverage levels represent the percentage of students who have received each required vaccine for the 2018-19 school year.

The rates here in my home district (Palo Pinto ISD) are a disaster waiting to happen, with an average of all the recommended immunizations of 66% for kindergartners. I have to confess that I haven’t paid much attention to local public health advocates, but it is time to start.

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jaunte  May 17, 2019 • 8:30:59am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2019 • 8:32:45am

re: #118 jaunte

Pence was warned, too, by @RepCummings in November 2016. businessinsider.com

The constant crimes of “witch hunt” are meant to drown out the fact that so many people close to Trump have been convicted of serious crimes.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 8:37:37am

re: #118 jaunte

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They didn’t want to listen. Remember Trump considered Flynn for VP.

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Mescalero  May 17, 2019 • 8:38:18am

re: #116 jeffreyw

You are NOT going to like his Yelp review.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 17, 2019 • 8:48:16am

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Didn’t be brush Obama aside when Obama warned him about Flynn? And Flynn’s affinity for Russia and Putin was public knowledge. No one forced Trump to make Flynn an adviser, vet him for VP, and then to make him his National Security Adviser. And remember when Flynn was revealed to have lied to investigators, Trump kept on talking about how Flynn was being wronged. Trump is upset now because Flynn may be playing the role of Joe Valachi in this farce.

This. trump is admitting that he is not very good at vetting.

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jeffreyw  May 17, 2019 • 8:49:09am

re: #121 Wah Gwaan?!

You are NOT going to like his Yelp review.

Bad Yelp review? Say hello to my leetle fren!

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Teukka  May 17, 2019 • 8:49:40am

*snickers*

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 8:50:27am

re: #124 Teukka

*snickers*

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Exactly. He was warned.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 8:51:32am

re: #122 I Would Prefer Not To

This. trump is admitting that he is not very good at vetting.

Yeah. He also made Manafort his Campaign Manager Even if NO COLLUSION. Trump has pretty much admitted he’s a shitty judge of character and talent.

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jaunte  May 17, 2019 • 8:53:44am
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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 8:55:38am

re: #127 jaunte

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And he knows this. He just didn’t want to listen to Obama because he’s so goddamn full of himself that he thinks he couldn’t take advice from Obama.

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Teukka  May 17, 2019 • 8:57:38am

So Faraday dropped an interesting one:

Trolling, Bullying, and Safety Online: An examination.

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danarchy  May 17, 2019 • 8:59:50am

re: #126 HappyWarrior

Yeah. He also made Manafort his VP. Even if NO COLLUSION. Trump has pretty much admitted he’s a shitty judge of character and talent.

not sure if you meant to say he made pence his vp or he made manafort his campaign manager, either way it shows pretty shitty judgement

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Mike Lamb  May 17, 2019 • 8:59:52am

re: #109 jaunte

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Mescalero  May 17, 2019 • 9:01:25am

Not sure if anyone here saw this. It is brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 9:03:55am

re: #130 danarchy

not sure if you meant to say he made pence his vp or he made manafort his campaign manager, either way it shows pretty shitty judgement

Yes I meant CM. And Pence was Manafort’s idea too.

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Teukka  May 17, 2019 • 9:05:11am

re: #133 HappyWarrior

Yes I meant CM. And Pence was Manafort’s idea too.

Hmm… So… Does this mean there is a potential “Tsar Bomba” that could blow Pence’s reputation to smithereens?

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 9:05:56am

re: #134 Teukka

Hmm… So… Does this mean there is a potential “Tsar Bomba” that could blow Pence’s reputation to smithereens?

I dunno tbh.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 9:07:12am

What you do have are examples after examples of shitty judgment by a man who claims he’s the best at finding talent. And people involved in criminal activity. I just can’t see Trump winning this battle.

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Mescalero  May 17, 2019 • 9:11:19am
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lawhawk  May 17, 2019 • 9:11:40am

My guess is that Nunes is the one directly implicated in obstruction of justice re: Flynn.

Nunes was on the Trump campaign team too, so that’s a two-fer.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 9:12:10am

re: #138 lawhawk

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My guess is that Nunes is the one directly implicated in obstruction of justice re: Flynn.

Nunes was on the Trump campaign team too, so that’s a two-fer.

Nunes is a good bet.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 17, 2019 • 9:14:56am
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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 9:16:02am

re: #140 The Vicious Babushka

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I don’t think Barr actually believes that but it’s what he’s going to use to protect Trump at all costs and that’s scary.

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makeitstop  May 17, 2019 • 9:18:09am
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lawhawk  May 17, 2019 • 9:19:30am

re: #141 HappyWarrior

I don’t think Barr actually believes that but it’s what he’s going to use to protect Trump at all costs and that’s scary.

His statement goes to obstruction of justice - itself a crime.

He’s pushing this Infowars style bulkshit precisely to try and deflect/dodge from Mueller’s report, which explicitly addresses Trumpworld criminality and misconduct that would result in indictments but for DOJ policy.

Barr’s acting as Trump’s personal lawyer, not the top law enforcement officer of the nation, and now thinks conspiracy theories is the way to go to solve Trump’s legal woes.

I have a better solution. Democrats should impeach, and then let Trump try and spew this conspiracy bulkshit all while Democrats show how everyone in Trumpworld and the GOP was complicit in the criminal misconduct from Trump on down, including now Barr and others that actively sought to interfere in the Flynn case.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 9:21:19am

I re: #143 lawhawk

His statement goes to obstruction of justice - itself a crime.

He’s pushing this Infowars style bulkshit precisely to try and deflect/dodge from Mueller’s report, which explicitly addresses Trumpworld criminality and misconduct that would result in indictments but for DOJ policy.

Barr’s acting as Trump’s personal lawyer, not the top law enforcement officer of the nation, and now thinks conspiracy theories is the way to go to solve Trump’s legal woes.

I have a better solution. Democrats should impeach, and then let Trump try and spew this conspiracy bulkshit all while Democrats show how everyone in Trumpworld and the GOP was complicit in the criminal misconduct from Trump on down, including now Barr and others that actively sought to interfere in the Flynn case.

Agreed.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 17, 2019 • 9:25:56am
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lawhawk  May 17, 2019 • 9:28:51am

re: #145 The Vicious Babushka

He’s the Beria of the “Death of Stalin” version - everyone in Trumpworld is a scheming bumbling fucknut, including Khrushchev and Beria.

May they all get what they deserve - prison and be thrown on the ash heap of history.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 9:30:59am

re: #146 lawhawk

He’s the Beria of the “Death of Stalin” version - everyone in Trumpworld is a scheming bumbling fucknut, including Khrushchev and Beria.

May they all get what they deserve - prison and be thrown on the ash heap of history.

I really enjoyed that one. But yep they’re all a bunch of bumbling crooks.

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Teukka  May 17, 2019 • 9:31:21am

re: #145 The Vicious Babushka

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 17, 2019 • 9:44:33am

“…as we build up our Removal Forces”?

Surely I can’t be the only one who thinks this sounds kind of ominous?

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 9:45:16am

re: #149 Eclectic Cyborg

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“Removal Forces”?

Surely I can’t be the only one who thinks this sounds kind of ominous?

Bullying chode.

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calochortus  May 17, 2019 • 9:48:08am

re: #149 Eclectic Cyborg

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“…as we build up our Removal Forces”?

Surely I can’t be the only one who thinks this sounds kind of ominous?

It’s supposed to sound threatening.

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lawhawk  May 17, 2019 • 9:54:45am
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The Vicious Babushka  May 17, 2019 • 9:56:08am
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 17, 2019 • 10:06:01am

Wisconsin’s farmers, who overwhelmingly voted for Trump, are finding out that maybe his trade policies aren’t so good for them after all:

The Milwaukee Journal, even though it’s a shadow of its former self under the whip hand of Gannett, is still trying to cover what is happening in America’s Dairyland…

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gocart mozart  May 17, 2019 • 10:06:13am
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 17, 2019 • 10:08:18am

Meanwhile, in Silly News that unexpectedly gives you a pang in the heart, Grumpy Cat has died at the age of 7.

This is young for a kitty. She apparently had all kinds of health problems, but her fame at least allowed for the best treatment possible.

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jaunte  May 17, 2019 • 10:08:22am

re: #155 gocart mozart

Using the words “chattering class” is one weird trick when one’s entire career is built on saying stuff.

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gocart mozart  May 17, 2019 • 10:11:22am
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jaunte  May 17, 2019 • 10:11:42am
“…I’m talking here about an emotional response. What happens to you when you are called deplorable?”

Vengeful victimhood, breakfast of losers.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 10:13:48am

re: #155 gocart mozart

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You’re the same person who wants to make it criminal to criticize Israel, Bari.

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gocart mozart  May 17, 2019 • 10:14:22am
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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 10:14:54am

re: #159 jaunte

Vengeful victimhood, breakfast of losers.

They hate being judged on their actions.

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makeitstop  May 17, 2019 • 10:17:37am

re: #157 jaunte

Using the words “chattering class” is one weird trick when one’s entire career is built on saying stuff.

Doesn’t using that term kind of make you part of the chattering class?

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 10:18:04am

I don’t think everyone right of me is a bigot but I do think bigotry easily lends itself to right wing ideology.

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William Lewis  May 17, 2019 • 10:18:58am

re: #155 gocart mozart

Simple reality: Calling oneself “Classical Liberal” or 90% of the time “Libertarian” is simply camouflage for the reality of being alt-right or a flat out Nazi. The reason they get so mad about being called out is that, deep down in their soul, they know they are advocating for evil and don’t want it to be known by family and friends. Hence the camouflage.

Call them out. Every time. Make them understand that we know what they are and that they can not hide their Anti-American evil behind that camouflage.

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KGxvi  May 17, 2019 • 10:20:48am

re: #164 HappyWarrior

I don’t think everyone right of me is a bigot but I do think bigotry easily lends itself to right wing ideology.

bigotry lends itself to extreme ideologies, because most extreme ideologies are emotionally exploitative.

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gocart mozart  May 17, 2019 • 10:23:00am
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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 10:27:06am

re: #166 KGxvi

bigotry lends itself to extreme ideologies, because most extreme ideologies are emotionally exploitative.

Absolutely. The problem though imo is the right grows more extreme. For all the talk of the Dems moving far to the left, it really isn’t the case.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2019 • 10:30:11am

re: #161 gocart mozart

Just sitting in here in awe of the terribleness of this graf in Heath Mac Donald’s obit of George Kelling:

Police cannot be expected to be able bust a guy for selling illegal cigarettes without killing him.

/

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Sir John Barron  May 17, 2019 • 10:30:53am

re: #149 Eclectic Cyborg

“…as we build up our Removal Forces”?

Surely I can’t be the only one who thinks this sounds kind of ominous?

How can we build up our removal forces when we need so many forces to remove all the anti-conservative bias and censorship on social media?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 17, 2019 • 10:30:57am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Police cannot be expected to be able bust a black guy for selling illegal cigarettes without killing him.

/

FTFY

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Sir John Barron  May 17, 2019 • 10:35:12am

re: #161 gocart mozart

And this year’s display at a Manhattan stationer’s did not disappoint. In the small section devoted to Hallmark’s “African-American” line (of course there is one; it is called “Mahogany”), two card pockets advertised “For mother on Father’s Day” options…

With 70 percent of black children born out of wedlock, with marriage a moribund custom in inner cities, Father’s Day does pose a problem. Hallmark has solved it with aplomb.

Ma’am, this is a Wendy’s drive thru

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Dr Lizardo  May 17, 2019 • 10:36:01am

re: #167 gocart mozart

Things like this are why the Internet exists.

And probably the best use of “Yakety Sax” ever.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 17, 2019 • 10:43:43am

Once again, the problem is the people screaming about their rights being taken away, not the fact that their rights are being taken away …

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Sir John Barron  May 17, 2019 • 10:45:33am

re: #174 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Once again, the problem is the people screaming about their rights being taken away, not the fact that their rights are being taken away …

But don’t tread on me, etc.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 10:46:09am

re: #174 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Once again, the problem is the people screaming about their rights being taken away, not the fact that their rights are being taken away …

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No way of knowing that. Sigh.

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Belafon  May 17, 2019 • 10:49:14am

re: #174 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Once again, the problem is the people screaming about their rights being taken away, not the fact that their rights are being taken away …

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I’m just wondering where the protests are.

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Citizen K  May 17, 2019 • 10:52:12am

re: #177 Belafon

I’m just wondering where the protests are.

How much of is not that protests aren’t happening, but aren’t being covered unless they can be used as a bludgeon against the protestors and their cause? The “Tree Falls In The Forest” problem. Protests rely on visibility after all, and the media have become the masters of downplaying and ignoring protests and the validity of those protests.

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Charles Johnson  May 17, 2019 • 10:53:17am

Here they come again…

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Charles Johnson  May 17, 2019 • 10:53:57am
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Feline Fearless Leader  May 17, 2019 • 10:54:13am

re: #168 HappyWarrior

Absolutely. The problem though imo is the right grows more extreme. For all the talk of the Dems moving far to the left, it really isn’t the case.

Of course the Dems are moving left - the complainers are at the center of the universe so any movement has to be towards or away from them since all motion is relative to their own (unchanging since it is always right) position.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 10:55:34am

re: #179 Charles Johnson

Here they come again…

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It’s a cult.

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KGxvi  May 17, 2019 • 10:56:18am

re: #176 HappyWarrior

No way of knowing that. Sigh.

Apparently there’s a provision in the law (or perhaps it was the governor’s signing statement - I only saw it in passing) that recognized that the law is “currently unenforceable.” Which leads to the very honest question of:

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU PASS A BILL THAT YOU ACKNOWLEDGE IS UNENFORCEABLE?

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 10:56:20am

re: #181 Feline Fearless Leader

Of course the Dems are moving left - the complainers are at the center of the universe so any movement has to be towards or away from them since all motion is relative to their own (unchanging since it is always right) position.

The Dems are moving left but it’s different than the GOPs move to the far right.

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plansbandc  May 17, 2019 • 10:56:52am
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jaunte  May 17, 2019 • 10:57:33am

re: #184 HappyWarrior

The Dems are moving left but it’s different than the GOPs move to the far right.

People who want to help other people will react to a large group of people motivated by the idea of hurting others.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 10:59:12am

re: #185 plansbandc

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The Vicious Babushka  May 17, 2019 • 11:00:52am

re: #155 gocart mozart

Bari Weiss called Eli Valley “anti-Semitic” so did he go out and become anti-Semitic? No. See how that works?

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jaunte  May 17, 2019 • 11:01:23am
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jaunte  May 17, 2019 • 11:02:09am

The “Well, Never MInd” Trade Negotiations.

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Sir John Barron  May 17, 2019 • 11:02:40am

re: #183 KGxvi

Apparently there’s a provision in the law (or perhaps it was the governor’s signing statement - I only saw it in passing) that recognized that the law is “currently unenforceable.” Which leads to the very honest question of:

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU PASS A BILL THAT YOU ACKNOWLEDGE IS UNENFORCEABLE?

“Because we love symbols and making statements but not taking any real responsibility why is everyone so upset?”
/

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jaunte  May 17, 2019 • 11:02:56am
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lawhawk  May 17, 2019 • 11:03:08am

re: #183 KGxvi

Apparently there’s a provision in the law (or perhaps it was the governor’s signing statement - I only saw it in passing) that recognized that the law is “currently unenforceable.” Which leads to the very honest question of:

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU PASS A BILL THAT YOU ACKNOWLEDGE IS UNENFORCEABLE?

Because they don’t care - the point is to try and get courts to say it’s valid and overturn Roe.

But here’s the rub. They are admitting that the law is unenforceable, which means that they’ve stirred the shit and rallied their base, even though everyone knows the law will never be effective as the courts should strike it down on it’s face.

They’re hoping to get enough of these enacted that all it takes is one version to get through the gauntlet to the Supreme Court. With enough right wing extremists entering the bench thanks to Trump/McConnell, the odds increase that they’ll ignore the facts and move to overturn Roe anyway.

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Sir John Barron  May 17, 2019 • 11:03:34am

re: #189 jaunte

We can’t mess around with trade tariffs when we have to raise so much more removal forces.

/

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lawhawk  May 17, 2019 • 11:04:47am

re: #189 jaunte

So, a return to the status quo. All of Trump’s shit stirring resulted in no action, damaged our reputation, and caused economic harms due to uncertainty.

Oh, and the Trump USMCA is just NAFTA 2.0 and that’s gone nowhere since Congress hasn’t taken it up to ratify.

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jaunte  May 17, 2019 • 11:04:54am
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Decatur Deb  May 17, 2019 • 11:06:49am

An old white male Alabama politician who is not an asshole:

“We need to call this bill what it is. We need to call it what Pat Roberston said it is - extreme. It is the most extreme abortion ban in the country, and it is in my view a product of what happens when you so gerrymander political districts that people don’t have to be accountable to extreme sides of an issue,” the senator said. “This bill uses rape victims and victims of incest of all ages, even minors, as political pawns.”

al.com

They exist, y’all.

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jaunte  May 17, 2019 • 11:08:50am

Infrastructure Week!

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Belafon  May 17, 2019 • 11:12:41am

re: #198 jaunte

Infrastructure Week!

We’re gonna have to rebuild the roads to handle all of documentation of his corruption.

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Decatur Deb  May 17, 2019 • 11:16:12am

re: #177 Belafon

I’m just wondering where the protests are.

Montgomery on Tuesday.

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allegro  May 17, 2019 • 11:19:35am

re: #197 Decatur Deb

An old white male Alabama politician who is not an asshole:

“We need to call this bill what it is. We need to call it what Pat Roberston said it is - extreme. It is the most extreme abortion ban in the country, and it is in my view a product of what happens when you so gerrymander political districts that people don’t have to be accountable to extreme sides of an issue,” the senator said. “This bill uses rape victims and victims of incest of all ages, even minors, as political pawns.”

al.com

They exist, y’all.

Yes, they do. I gotta say how objectionable I’m finding this repeated argument however. (Not directed at you DD or even this senator, just in general.) I understand why the OMG-more-torture-for-rape-and-incest-victims is being made to up the horror factor because it does emphasize the point. My objection is that this is THE argument, the seeming heart of it, which makes me ask the question:

Why is it that women are only deserving of bodily autonomy and agency AFTER we’ve been used and abused by men?

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Belafon  May 17, 2019 • 11:20:05am

I hadn’t been paying a whole lot of attention to the Flynn stuff, including who was source:

Last night Robert Mueller’s prosecutorial team - which apparently still exists on some level - made a court filing in the Michael Flynn case, despite the fact that it wasn’t under obligation to do so, and it wasn’t even close to being up against any deadline. The filing revealed that Flynn witnessed Trump and his underlings commit several crimes. This in turn prompted the judge in the case to order that far more evidence of these crimes be publicly released soon. This, of course, wasn’t coincidence.

With his filing yesterday, Mueller is essentially unredacting the most important pieces of his own report by force, in a way that Attorney General William Barr can’t stop. If Mueller had publicly testified on the 15th as originally planned, would he have been legally able to discuss the Trump crimes that Flynn witnessed? But now that Mueller has found a way to force the Flynn stuff into the public purview, there’s nothing that Trump and Barr can even try to do to stop Mueller from testifying about the Flynn stuff

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 17, 2019 • 11:21:36am
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Charles Johnson  May 17, 2019 • 11:23:21am
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jaunte  May 17, 2019 • 11:23:26am

“President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday that Russia would supply soy beans and poultry meat to China and that the United States had effectively given up on that market.”

And farmers will continue to vote for Trump even as they go bankrupt.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 17, 2019 • 11:23:51am

re: #202 Belafon

I hadn’t been paying a whole lot of attention to the Flynn stuff, including who was source:

The deep revelations coming from Flynn is going to be hard to deflect; dress him up in his Army uniform during testimony, and you’ll see the GOP congressmen who routinely scream & yell at witnesses who dare to tell the truth about Trump, suddenly become meek and scared.

Because the optics to the knuckledragging GOP base of yelling at SOLDIERS!!1!! are the one red line they can’t bring themselves to cross in service of Dear Leader.

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goddamnedfrank  May 17, 2019 • 11:25:15am

re: #155 gocart mozart

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Decatur Deb  May 17, 2019 • 11:25:40am

re: #201 allegro

Yes, they do. I gotta say how objectionable I’m finding this repeated argument however. (Not directed at you DD or even this senator, just in general.) I understand why the OMG-more-torture-for-rape-and-incest-victims is being made to up the horror factor because it does emphasize the point. My objection is that this is THE argument, the seeming heart of it, which makes me ask the question:

Why is it that women are only deserving of bodily autonomy and agency AFTER we’ve been used and abused by men?

Not sure I’m seeing an argument in those terms. As a generalization, a social or political response won’t occur until after an outrageous abuse of any sort is dramatically aired.

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Dr Lizardo  May 17, 2019 • 11:27:20am

re: #205 jaunte

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And farmers will continue to vote for Trump even as they go bankrupt when they and their families are living in a Kenmore refrigerator box.

FTFY.

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Dr Lizardo  May 17, 2019 • 11:28:25am

re: #207 goddamnedfrank

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Modern conservatism is nothing more than a case of oppositional defiance disorder writ large.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2019 • 11:28:38am

re: #192 jaunte

Tell kids they’re white supremacists for questioning leftism and they’ll become desensitized—so desensitized that they’ll listen to the Nazi sales pitch.

I am very careful and sparing in calling anyone a racist or white supremacist, but I do not hesitate to call people out when they dogwhistle, give Nazi salutes or blatantly shout out “Jews will not replace us!”

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Dr Lizardo  May 17, 2019 • 11:31:21am

Well, looks like a quid pro quo scandal seems to be brewing in Austria.

The leader of Austria’s far-right Freedom Party has been filmed offering to trade public contracts for campaign support, German media reported Friday.

The revelations could bring Austria’s government to breaking point amid growing tensions between the far-right party and its coalition partner, the Austrian People’s Party of Chancellor Sebastian Kurz.

The secretly recorded footage of Heinz-Christian Strache, Austria’s vice chancellor and leader of the Freedom Party (FPÖ), was taken on the Spanish island of Ibiza before the Austrian election in 2017, according to Der Spiegel and Süddeutsche Zeitung, which obtained the video from an unnamed source.

It shows Strache, alongside fellow FPÖ politician Johann Gudenus, speaking to a woman claiming to be a wealthy Russian citizen who said she wanted to invest in Austria, apparently with money of dubious origin.

The encounter, which lasted six hours, appeared to be a trap for Strache, according to Der Spiegel and Süddeutsche.

The woman offered to buy a 50 percent stake in Austria’s Kronen-Zeitung newspaper and switch it to a pro-FPÖ line. In turn, Strache said he could award her public contracts.

politico.eu

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makeitstop  May 17, 2019 • 11:31:55am

re: #202 Belafon

I hadn’t been paying a whole lot of attention to the Flynn stuff, including who was source:

I was pretty surprised to read that it was Mueller’s team who let that revelation drop - and that they did it fully within the law.

Throughout the investigation, people had been saying that if Trump tried to obstruct the release of the report, Mueller would have a way around it. It’s looking now like his team gamed this out, expecting that Cult 45 would go to the wall to keep the report from going public.

I expect more information to be released in this manner. Mueller does have a few cooperating witnesses who were in Trump’s inner circle, and the release of further information like this will not only make Trump and his co-conspirators look bad, but also those who have tried to keep his findings from the public.

Barr, Graham, Nunes, Jordan. We see all of you.

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Sir John Barron  May 17, 2019 • 11:35:29am

re: #213 makeitstop

Is there a source for the analysis and implications of this other than the Palmer Report? I haven’t caught up.

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Citizen K  May 17, 2019 • 11:36:16am

re: #192 jaunte

Like so much else, it all amounts to a lot of projection, but like so much else, the projection works. They convinced the discourse as a whole that the problem is them not being treated gently as humanly possible, and our discourse responds in like, treating the GOP like their walk on sacred ground and their opinions are perfect crystallized democracy, and that the only solution to everything is“PUNCH MORE FUCKING HIPPIES!!!”

And as it ever was, they get treated like perfect little princes just for breathing, complete with assumed Divine Right of Rule.

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allegro  May 17, 2019 • 11:38:04am

re: #208 Decatur Deb

Not sure I’m seeing an argument in those terms. As a generalization, a social or political response won’t occur until after an outrageous abuse of any sort is dramatically aired.

It’s because the loudest outcry on this law has been focused on the fact that it does not have exemptions for rape and incest, not that it is in itself a denial of all women’s civil right to full agency, implying that the whole of it isn’t so much a problem. By putting the bulk of the argument on the lack of exemptions, doesn’t that ultimately weaken the argument by just continuing the slut shaming?

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Charles Johnson  May 17, 2019 • 11:40:08am
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allegro  May 17, 2019 • 11:41:46am

re: #217 Charles Johnson

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Any Dems that don’t get eliminated from my potential primary vote list. No exceptions.

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Decatur Deb  May 17, 2019 • 11:42:45am

re: #216 allegro

It’s because the loudest outcry on this law has been focused on the fact that it does not have exemptions for rape and incest, not that it is in itself a denial of all women’s civil right to full agency, implying that the whole of it isn’t so much a problem. By putting the bulk of the argument on the lack of exemptions, doesn’t that ultimately weaken the argument by just continuing the slut shaming?

You use the sharpest weapon at hand. Here is Susan B Anthony List calling the hounds on Sen Jones:

SBA List: Doug Jones Proves He’s a Pro-Abortion Extremist

sba-list.org

He has very little chance of winning re-election in 2020, and keeping the faith out loud, as he long has, is going to cost him.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 17, 2019 • 11:45:15am
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jaunte  May 17, 2019 • 11:45:41am
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Citizen K  May 17, 2019 • 11:46:37am

re: #219 Decatur Deb

You use the sharpest weapon at hand. Here is Susan B Anthony List calling the hounds on Sen Jones:

SBA List: Doug Jones Proves He’s a Pro-Abortion Extremist

sba-list.org

He has very little chance of winning re-election in 2020, and keeping the faith out loud, as he long has, is going to cost him.

Because no good deed ever goes unpunished and the worst of us are all that get to succeed in this country. Jim Jordan will continue to be a Congressman, and an influential ‘trusted’ one at that, while everything burns around us, GOPers blame us for the fire, and lefter-than-thous simply sage nod and wait for the perfect house to just spring up in the ashes afterwards.

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Decatur Deb  May 17, 2019 • 11:51:25am

re: #222 Citizen K

Because no good deed ever goes unpunished and the worst of us are all that get to succeed in this country. Jim Jordan will continue to be a Congressman, and an influential ‘trusted’ one at that, while everything burns around us, GOPers blame us for the fire, and lefter-than-thous simply sage nod and wait for the perfect house to just spring up in the ashes afterwards.

Alabama Republicans are just barely stupid enough to run Roy Moore again. In case they do, I’ve signed up for Jones’ volunteer list.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 17, 2019 • 11:53:59am

Oklahoma Lawmaker: Men Must Approve Abortion; Women Are ‘Hosts’

Oklahoma state legislator Rep. Justin Humphrey is sponsoring a draconian bill, HB 1441, that would require a woman to get written permission from her sexual partner if she wants to have an abortion.

Attempting to justify the despicable legislation Rep. Humphrey told The Intercept that women have no right to bodily autonomy once they are pregnant because they are merely “hosts”:

I understand that they feel like that is their body. I feel like it is a separate — what I call them is, is you’re a ‘host.’ And you know when you enter into a relationship you’re going to be that host and so, you know, if you pre-know that then take all precautions and don’t get pregnant.


My grandmother would beat this pissant’s ass for wearing a hat indoors.
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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2019 • 11:54:50am

re: #224 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Oklahoma Lawmaker: Men Must Approve Abortion; Women Are ‘Hosts’

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My grandmother would beat this pissant’s ass for wearing a hat indoors.

Uh huh.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 17, 2019 • 11:55:27am

re: #198 jaunte

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Infrastructure Week!

Somebody never heard of a Zip file?

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Citizen K  May 17, 2019 • 11:55:56am

re: #224 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Oklahoma Lawmaker: Men Must Approve Abortion; Women Are ‘Hosts’

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My grandmother would beat this pissant’s ass for wearing a hat indoors.

Not even hiding it anymore because they know they don’t have to. They can be as vile as they can be publicly and be rewarded even more than before for that openness, because everything fucking sucks.

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jaunte  May 17, 2019 • 11:56:01am

“…The Round Rock-based group is headed by Carol Everett, a longtime anti-choice activist and author who led a network of crisis pregnancy centers, non-medical faux clinics tasked with persuading women against abortion care. It’s not the first time Everett’s group has seen taxpayer funds; their CPCs have won thousands from the state under the Alternatives to Abortion program. The Heidi Group has since been rebranded as a group that offers minimum health services. Last year, Everett told the Chronicle some of the state funds would indeed flow to CPCs.

Making her an even less qualified recipient, Everett has a curious understanding of basic health facts: During a state hearing on an anti-abortion rule, Everett claimed that humans can contract STDs and HIV through the water system.”

Scammers and loons, parasitic on an ignorant State legislature.

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Dr Lizardo  May 17, 2019 • 11:56:25am

re: #224 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

So if women are “hosts” as this tool is suggesting, does that mean they’re hosting a parasitic lifeform inside them? You know, like a good many sci-fi/horror flicks.

Just curious.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 17, 2019 • 11:57:22am

re: #203 I Would Prefer Not To

Bleeding John Bolton Stumbles Into Capitol Building Claiming That Iran Shot Him

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So why did the bullet come from Steven Miller’s gun?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 17, 2019 • 11:58:20am

re: #227 Citizen K

Not even hiding it anymore because they know they don’t have to. They can be as vile as they can be publicly and be rewarded even more than before for that openness, because everything fucking sucks.

That article is not from the present.

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Citizen K  May 17, 2019 • 12:01:00pm

re: #231 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That article is not from the present.

Ugh, goddammit. It’s so fucking hard to tell at these points now.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 17, 2019 • 12:03:26pm

re: #232 Citizen K

I very nearly forwarded it to my network before I caught that.
It’s not as bad as when I informed people that someone is still dead.

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makeitstop  May 17, 2019 • 12:16:55pm

re: #214 Sir John Barron

Is there a source for the analysis and implications of this other than the Palmer Report? I haven’t caught up.

I haven’t seen any. And I tend to take Palmer with a grain of salt.

But the Mueller team’s filing speaks for itself. It was done through the courts, so that cuts off Team Treason from screaming about a leak. It directly refutes one of the main talking points that Trump has been harping on for literally years. And it makes Barr look like the partisan hack he’s always been.

Smart play. And I don’t think this is the last move like this we’ll see.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2019 • 1:43:32pm

re: #224 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I understand that they feel like that is their body. I feel like it is a separate — what I call them is, is you’re a ‘host.’ And you know when you enter into a relationship you’re going to be that host and so, you know, if you pre-know that then take all precautions and don’t get pregnant.

And if that relationship is that of rapist/victim?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 17, 2019 • 1:48:02pm

re: #235 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And if that relationship is that of rapist/victim?

or father/extremely-young-daughter?


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