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I Would Prefer Not To  May 20, 2019 • 6:47:50pm

I’m still for impeachment.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 20, 2019 • 6:49:30pm

Good timing, I just stole this:

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gocart mozart  May 20, 2019 • 6:54:44pm
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gocart mozart  May 20, 2019 • 6:55:39pm
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gocart mozart  May 20, 2019 • 7:07:23pm

Subtle Godwin


Also, LOL
“In September 2016, Sliwa launched a successful hostile takeover of the Reform Party of New York State.[28] The party lost its ballot access in the November 2018 elections.” en.wikipedia.org
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 20, 2019 • 7:09:44pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 20, 2019 • 7:14:59pm
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jaunte  May 20, 2019 • 7:16:14pm

Sorting through keyboards trying to find what still works, and this pops up.

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Belafon  May 20, 2019 • 7:17:48pm

re: #8 jaunte

I’m rooting for the dragon.

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jaunte  May 20, 2019 • 7:20:18pm

re: #9 Belafon

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gocart mozart  May 20, 2019 • 7:25:48pm
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gocart mozart  May 20, 2019 • 7:28:21pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  May 20, 2019 • 7:33:04pm

re: #12 gocart mozart

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Tell me once again how impeachment is not called for. He’s not going to stop until someone forces his hand.

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jaunte  May 20, 2019 • 7:34:00pm
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Cheechako  May 20, 2019 • 7:34:02pm

Another float plane crash in SE Alaska this afternoon. Two fatalities. Near Metlakatla, about 50 miles out of Ketchikan. Early reports are that it’s a plane from the same company involved in last weeks mid-air collision which killed 6 people.

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gocart mozart  May 20, 2019 • 7:36:21pm
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Cheechako  May 20, 2019 • 7:40:32pm

re: #15 Cheechako

Another float plane crash in SE Alaska this afternoon. Two fatalities. Near Metlakatla, about 50 miles out of Ketchikan. Early reports are that it’s a plane from the same company involved in last weeks mid-air collision which killed 6 people.

More info:

2 dead in floatplane crash near Metlakatla

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The Vicious Babushka  May 20, 2019 • 7:46:02pm

*groan*

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jaunte  May 20, 2019 • 7:48:44pm

re: #16 gocart mozart

Maybe PEG should meet a few people outside his regular Federalist/4chan circle.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 20, 2019 • 7:56:57pm
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teleskiguy  May 20, 2019 • 8:00:56pm
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jaunte  May 20, 2019 • 8:02:31pm
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jaunte  May 20, 2019 • 8:03:43pm

Trump said:

“You know this. You have some of these socialist wackos they want to double and triple your taxes, and that won’t come close to paying for. They want to knock down all buildings in Manhatten and rebuild them without windows. You know that. Let’s rebuild them. Glass is no good. We don’t want windows. I used to love the view, but I think we’ll all be forced to close up windows. It’s crazy what they’re saying.”

YOU KNOW THAT.

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gocart mozart  May 20, 2019 • 8:06:05pm
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teleskiguy  May 20, 2019 • 8:07:12pm

re: #21 teleskiguy

He mentions this song in the interview and how it informed his sexuality… in a really weird way.

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jaunte  May 20, 2019 • 8:07:47pm

re: #24 gocart mozart

Thread:

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jaunte  May 20, 2019 • 8:08:00pm
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teleskiguy  May 20, 2019 • 8:08:49pm

re: #23 jaunte

Oh. My. Fuck. The fucktardedness is completely off the scale.

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Belafon  May 20, 2019 • 8:10:47pm

re: #23 jaunte

Trump said:

YOU KNOW THAT.

What’s funny is that Ayn Rand would want to knock down most of the buildings and replace them with some having smaller windows.

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jaunte  May 20, 2019 • 8:11:24pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

“They say I’ve learned all the verbal manipulation techniques and I’m going to use them on you right in the open: YOU KNOW THIS. They’re all saying it, and you know it’s true.”

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jaunte  May 20, 2019 • 8:12:08pm

Audience: “Hooray! We know something and he noticed!”

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teleskiguy  May 20, 2019 • 8:14:50pm

The only books besides his own that Fuckface Von Clownstick kept in his gold-plated living quarters is a collection of speeches by Hitler.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 20, 2019 • 8:15:54pm

re: #24 gocart mozart

There. Are. Four. Lights.

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jaunte  May 20, 2019 • 8:16:22pm
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retired cynic  May 20, 2019 • 8:21:41pm

juanitajean.com

The RNC is paying a company called Got Junk a lot of money. What for?

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jaunte  May 20, 2019 • 8:22:09pm

re: #35 retired cynic

Shredding?

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retired cynic  May 20, 2019 • 8:25:53pm

re: #36 jaunte

Shredding?

Perhaps “acid washing” computers? //

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 20, 2019 • 8:26:30pm

re: #15 Cheechako

Another float plane crash in SE Alaska this afternoon. Two fatalities. Near Metlakatla, about 50 miles out of Ketchikan. Early reports are that it’s a plane from the same company involved in last weeks mid-air collision which killed 6 people.

Two dead in Taquan Air crash in Metlakatla Harbor, borough says

N67667 at the Ray Lusson Collection

Remarks by Johan Visschedijk: “Manufactured as a L-20A (redesignated U-6A in 1962), with s/n 58-1986 it was delivered to the US Army on February 17, 1959. It went on the civil register as N67044 on May 6, 1975. That registration was cancelled on June 1, 1979, whereafter it appeared on the Canadian Register as C-GWPF. In August 1989 it was stricken from the Canadian register and became N450DB on the US Register. On December 6, 2004 it was re-registered as N67667.”

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TedStriker  May 20, 2019 • 8:26:34pm

re: #35 retired cynic

juanitajean.com

The RNC is paying a company called Got Junk a lot of money. What for?

re: #36 jaunte

Shredding?

No, there’s other more established companies for that, like Iron Mountain, Shred-It, and other records archiving companies. Got Junk is a pickup service for big stuff, like furniture and other bulky items, but apparently they do computer disposal/data destruction services too, so maybe the RNC is trying to disappear some evidence.

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retired cynic  May 20, 2019 • 8:30:18pm

re: #39 TedStriker

No, there’s other more established companies for that, like Iron Mountain, Shred-It, and other records archiving companies. Got Junk is a pickup service for big stuff, like furniture and other bulky items.

Did you know that 1-800-Got-Junk will come to your office and pick up computers that you want to get rid of? They do - and they provide another very important service:

If you have sensitive data on your hard drive that you would like destroyed, you can ask us for a certificate of destruction.

That would be very helpful if you have to respond to multiple subpoenas.

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Teukka  May 20, 2019 • 8:32:12pm

Did this one get posted?

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 20, 2019 • 8:35:41pm
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A Three Hour Tour  May 20, 2019 • 8:58:40pm

Link

Yikes!

Gratuitous hippie-punching and now “Democratic plantation” rhetoric. Sad.

Gus’s twitter meltdown continues.

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jaunte  May 20, 2019 • 9:05:02pm
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Mattand  May 20, 2019 • 9:07:05pm

re: #12 gocart mozart

I show this kind of shit to people and they tell me I’m being a worry wart. It’s beyond upsetting. People really don’t give a shit about this unless Trump is personally in their living room setting crap on fire.

Just fucking amazing that an American President is openly accusing the FBI of treason, and most Americans are like “Eh, that’s just crazy Grandpa talk. He’ll never follow up on it.”

When Michael Cohen talks about Trump not going quietly if he somehow loses next year, I take it seriously. I will not be surprised to see armed soldiers demanding to know how you’re going to vote at polling sites next year.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 20, 2019 • 9:07:50pm

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Mattand  May 20, 2019 • 9:09:10pm

re: #44 jaunte

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They just showed a truncated version of this on Brian Williams’ 11th Hour show. This version is weapons-grade “DAYUMMM, SON!”

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teleskiguy  May 20, 2019 • 9:18:03pm

re: #43 A Three Hour Tour

He’s had dozens of Twitter meltdowns.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 20, 2019 • 9:18:45pm

re: #43 A Three Hour Tour

I unfollowed him. Looks like I will have to block now.

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teleskiguy  May 20, 2019 • 9:33:30pm

re: #49 GlutenFreeJesus

The last thing I said to him on Twitter before he blocked me was “Fuck you very much. Have a nice life.”

That was last year.

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retired cynic  May 20, 2019 • 9:37:25pm

re: #49 GlutenFreeJesus

re: #50 teleskiguy

Sounds to me like someone is in a very bad way. I hope someone he knows can do an intervention before his life goes further off the rails.

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DodgerFan1988  May 20, 2019 • 10:24:54pm

Same “Centrists” that believed Black Lives Matter are the same as the Ku Klux Klan.

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mmmirele  May 20, 2019 • 10:28:07pm

Currently on an express train to Kyoto. We spent the last couple of days at Hagi, a small, out of the way town on the Sea of Japan. It’s famous for its pottery; there are 300 kilns in town. I’ve taken lots of pictures and will share when I get back early next week.

ETA I also figured out that I was dog tired this morning because I hadn’t had any coffee or tea for breakfast. Thank God for Japan’s ubiquitous vending machines!

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uriel  May 20, 2019 • 10:29:21pm

re: #52 DodgerFan1988

Yup.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 20, 2019 • 11:28:56pm
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Chrysicat  May 20, 2019 • 11:41:23pm
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Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2019 • 12:02:39am

OK, off to work, but before I go, here’s a good one from Tom Tomorrow.

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teleskiguy  May 21, 2019 • 12:22:01am

Weather is miserable. Cold and rainy. My tomato plants need some sunshine, dammit!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 21, 2019 • 12:43:52am

re: #52 DodgerFan1988

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Same “Centrists” that believed Black Lives Matter are the same as the Ku Klux Klan.

and that tossing a milkshake is the same as shooting up a church full of people

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 21, 2019 • 12:44:21am

re: #58 teleskiguy

Weather is miserable. Cold and rainy. My tomato plants need some sunshine, dammit!

same here on the otherwise sunny and balmy Rhine

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 21, 2019 • 1:32:52am
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Teukka  May 21, 2019 • 1:56:57am

Watching episode 3 of chernobyl.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 21, 2019 • 2:11:49am

They released the McCabe testimony too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 21, 2019 • 2:18:36am

We were expecting a landslide from the Müller report, all it did was loosen a few boulders…the rumble is growing…

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Teukka  May 21, 2019 • 2:47:40am

re: #62 Teukka

Watching episode 3 of chernobyl.

Watching episode 3, “Open Wide, O Earth”. A damn tough episode, as it among other things describes Acute Radiation Syndrome (ARS). And yes, with what I know about the subject, it can be that bad, and it can be even worse.
I think I can officially say that Craig Mazin and Co have done a good job with this series. No nerfing, in your face truth.
Prime nightmare fuel.

🤢

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 21, 2019 • 2:54:22am

re: #10 jaunte

Joust was the bestest game.

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Barefoot Grin  May 21, 2019 • 2:56:00am

Just got back from the Imperial Palace grounds in Tokyo. There were three massive trucks circling the grounds. The first had the Imperial symbol and said: “Emperor, please save the world—a global revolution is coming.” The second had the American flag and said “President Trump will help save the world; he is part of the global revolution.” And, surprisingly, the third one had the Russian flag and said “President Putin will help save the world; he is part of the global revolution.” Ultra-rightists constantly drive around in trucks with loud speakers, but I had never seen this. And just the other day an ultra-conservative member of the Diet said that a war with Russia may be necessary to reclaim northern islands lost to USSR after WWII. He was roundly criticized due to the Constitutional article (9) that prohibits Japan from engaging in offensive war measures.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 21, 2019 • 2:59:37am

re: #67 Barefoot Grin

The far-right in Japan really love their loudspeakers.

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Barefoot Grin  May 21, 2019 • 3:02:34am

re: #68 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The far-right in Japan really love their loudspeakers.

Indeed. OG trolls.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 21, 2019 • 3:13:40am

Putin is impressive in that he appeals to the Far Right with his authoritarianism and yet at the same time to the Putinverstehers of the Far Left with his ostensibly anti-capitalist stance, although these people do not recognize that his form of crony capitalism is what our Western capitalists aspire to.

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Barefoot Grin  May 21, 2019 • 3:16:29am

re: #70 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Putin is impressive in that he appeals to the Far Right with his authoritarianism and yet at the same time to the Putinverstehers of the Far Left with his ostensibly anti-capitalist stance, although these people do not recognize that his form of crony capitalism is what our Western capitalists aspire to.

In Michael Cohen’s transcripts it came out that he had joked with Sater about getting the apartment below Putin’s in the imagined Trump Tower Moscow project so that he could sell it to an oligarch for billions. We’re here.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 21, 2019 • 3:17:23am

re: #8 jaunte

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Sorting through keyboards trying to find what still works, and this pops up.

I’m recycling/scrapping a few cheap keyboards because one of the cats chewed through the USB cables of them. Took one apart to see what the chances were of doing a splice or other fix and realized that the USB cable is split and soldered directly to the circuit board in the keyboard. Everything else is mechanical and works fine of course.

(A more complex repair would not be cost effective given the cost of getting a replacement from a store - or a thrift shop given the one I grabbed the day after the cat chewed up a cable.)

Keyboards? Don’t know what you’re talking about. Busy drinking your coffee.
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Decatur Deb  May 21, 2019 • 4:35:44am

re: #55 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Three-time Formula One champion Niki Lauda, who recovered from a near-fatal accident to become one of motor racing’s greatest drivers, has died cnn.it

Ron Howard made an excellent bio-pic on his rivalry with James Hunt.

imdb.com

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Sufficient unto the day...  May 21, 2019 • 4:44:16am

re: #43 A Three Hour Tour

Did y’all see that SOMEBODY liked that bullshit tweet?

GUESS WHO IT WAS!

D_F

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SteelPH  May 21, 2019 • 4:45:16am

re: #74 Sufficient unto the day…

Did y’all see that SOMEBODY liked that bullshit tweet?

GUESS WHO IT WAS!

D_F

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Oy…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2019 • 4:47:52am
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Sufficient unto the day...  May 21, 2019 • 4:50:04am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 21, 2019 • 5:04:56am

re: #74 Sufficient unto the day…

Did y’all see that SOMEBODY liked that bullshit tweet?

GUESS WHO IT WAS!

D_F

Not surprised. That prick can go to hell for what he said about my son.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 21, 2019 • 5:10:11am

re: #43 A Three Hour Tour

Link

Yikes!

Gratuitous hippie-punching and now “Democratic plantation” rhetoric. Sad.

Gus’s twitter meltdown continues.

We liberals like blacks to be poor and ignorant, like Barack and Michelle Obama…

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jeffreyw  May 21, 2019 • 5:20:17am

Good morning!

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Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2019 • 5:36:39am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and that tossing a milkshake is the same as shooting up a church full of people

Yeah, I’ve seen it being referred to as “political violence”.

No. Throwing a brick or rocks at someone….that’s political violence. Tossing rotten eggs or rotten tomatoes or rotten vegetables at politicians is as old as the hills. Throwing milkshakes is just a more updated variant of that venerable, time-honored tradition.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 21, 2019 • 5:40:05am

re: #81 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, I’ve seen it being referred to as “political violence”.

No. Throwing a brick or rocks at someone….that’s political violence. Tossing rotten eggs or rotten tomatoes or rotten vegetables at politicians is as old as the hills. Throwing milkshakes is just a more updated variant of that venerable, time-honored tradition.

Call it harassment, intimidation even, but calling it violence is really just an attempt to equate it with other acts that truly result in injury or death.

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Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2019 • 5:45:46am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Call it harassment, intimidation even, but violence is really just an attempt to equate it with other acts that truly result in injury or death.

That’s exactly what they’re trying to do, and frankly, it’s a ridiculous argument.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 21, 2019 • 5:55:42am

re: #83 Dr Lizardo

That’s exactly what they’re trying to do, and frankly, it’s a ridiculous argument.

Remember them getting the vapors over Maxine Waters call to “push back” against Republicans?

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Decatur Deb  May 21, 2019 • 5:57:13am

re: #81 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, I’ve seen it being referred to as “political violence”.

No. Throwing a brick or rocks at someone….that’s political violence. Tossing rotten eggs or rotten tomatoes or rotten vegetables at politicians is as old as the hills. Throwing milkshakes is just a more updated variant of that venerable, time-honored tradition.

So it’s OK if a proud boy dumps a milkshake on AOC? Are you seeing the problem here?

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SteelPH  May 21, 2019 • 5:58:30am

re: #84 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember them getting the vapors over Maxine Waters call to “push back” against Republicans?

Like how she dropped several anvils on Michael Tracey’s head?
///

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 21, 2019 • 5:59:11am

re: #85 Decatur Deb

So it’s OK if a proud boy dumps a milkshake on AOC? Are you seeing the problem here?

It is not okay, it is still harassment or intimidation.

But yes, expect something like that to happen so they can drag this discussion down a rhetorical rat hole.

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Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2019 • 6:01:31am

re: #85 Decatur Deb

It’s not OK. That being said, it’s not violence as violence implies bodily harm, injury or death.

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Decatur Deb  May 21, 2019 • 6:02:23am

re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is not okay, it is still harassment or intimidation.

But yes, expect something like that to happen so they can drag this discussion down a rhetorical rat hole.

Rhetorical use of dairy products is pretty much rat-hole politics.

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Sufficient unto the day...  May 21, 2019 • 6:04:35am

re: #86 SteelPH

I thought she suplexed him off the top of the steel cage?

Also, when they come to execute me, my final request will be to be allowed to read the Maxine vs Tracey tweets until they cease to be funny…

…thus ensuring my lifespan will outlive the universe.

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Belafon  May 21, 2019 • 6:07:08am

I caught on TV that Alabama has blocked the Arthur episode with the gay wedding: al.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 21, 2019 • 6:08:10am

re: #91 Belafon

I caught on TV that Alabama has blocked the Arthur episode with the gay wedding: al.com

Showing cartoon rats getting married is definitely an assault on Alabaman values

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Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2019 • 6:08:58am

re: #91 Belafon

I caught on TV that Alabama has blocked the Arthur episode with the gay wedding: al.com

Yeah, I saw that story earlier today. Then again, I’m pretty sure that that famous kiss between Kirk and Uhura probably wasn’t aired in Alabama back in the day, either (though I admit, I could be mistaken, but IIRC, that episode wasn’t broadcast in many parts of the South).

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Decatur Deb  May 21, 2019 • 6:09:57am

re: #88 Dr Lizardo

It’s not OK. That being said, it’s not violence as violence implies bodily harm, injury or death.

In my family we do not throw milkshakes on nazis, we do not punch nazis. We have dropped a shitload of high explosive on nazis.

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Belafon  May 21, 2019 • 6:12:49am

re: #94 Decatur Deb

In my family we do not throw milkshakes on nazis, we do not punch nazis. We have dropped a shitload of high explosive on nazis.

Hopefully, this time, milk shakes will be sufficient.

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Decatur Deb  May 21, 2019 • 6:14:20am

re: #95 Belafon

Hopefully, this time, milk shakes will be sufficient.

Don’t bank on it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 21, 2019 • 6:14:42am

re: #95 Belafon

Hopefully, this time, milk shakes will be sufficient.

If it only were…

We really have to make it abundantly clear that Fascism and White Supremacism are not acceptable viewpoints along the political spectrum. They are anathema to everything this nation stands for and require us to push back using all means necessary.

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lawhawk  May 21, 2019 • 6:15:22am

re: #56 Chrysicat

Trump doesn’t care that there are facts involved, like that windows are awful insulators and that reducing glass exposure on buildings can help improve the building’s efficiency. You can use other materials and/or higher efficiency glass to make structures that are far more efficient.

In other words, it’s akin to pushing towards LEED platinum standards that should be the goal for every building.

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lawhawk  May 21, 2019 • 6:15:36am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 21, 2019 • 6:16:32am

re: #99 lawhawk

Trump created a problem and then got us back to where we we’re before he took office. That’s not a win.

That’s Trump getting lucky his base doesn’t care.

They are also too uninformed (or misinformed) to know the difference

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Dave In Austin  May 21, 2019 • 6:21:30am

Can we say that Alabama is our nation’s experiment in Theocracy?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 21, 2019 • 6:23:09am

re: #101 Dave In Austin

Can we say that Alabama is our nation’s experiment in Theocracy?

Dereconstructivist politics

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Belafon  May 21, 2019 • 6:24:34am

re: #101 Dave In Austin

Can we say that Alabama is our nation’s experiment in Theocracy?

If they show a gay wedding, the next thing you know they’ll be required to show a mixed race wedding.

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Decatur Deb  May 21, 2019 • 6:28:10am

re: #101 Dave In Austin

Can we say that Alabama is our nation’s experiment in Theocracy?

You misspelled Utah. We’re actually too religiously diverse for that. Our county has 1 Jewish temple, 1 Catholic church, 1 each Hindu and Muslim congregations, 1 known Quaker adherent, and 150+ Protestant churches.

Alabama’s problems are mostly the historical sludge left over from slavery.

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Belafon  May 21, 2019 • 6:32:01am

re: #104 Decatur Deb

You misspelled Utah. We’re actually too religiously diverse for that. Our county has 1 Jewish temple, 1 Catholic church, 1 each Hindu and Muslim congregations, 1 known Quaker adherent, and 150+ Protestant churches.

Alabama’s problems are mostly the historical sludge left over from slavery.

Iran has both Jews and Christians living within its borders. But you are correct that the problems in Alabama are race related.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 21, 2019 • 6:34:39am

re: #105 Belafon

Iran has both Jews and Christians living within its borders. But you are correct that the problems in Alabama are race related.

And they never abandoned a patriarchal view of society in which women are chattel.

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Dave In Austin  May 21, 2019 • 6:39:07am

re: #104 Decatur Deb

You misspelled Utah. We’re actually too religiously diverse for that. Our county has 1 Jewish temple, 1 Catholic church, 1 each Hindu and Muslim congregations, 1 known Quaker adherent, and 150+ Protestant churches.

Alabama’s problems are mostly the historical sludge left over from slavery.

It’s mostly snark. I think it’s safe to say it won’t change anytime soon. I still want to know why Southern white men continue to use a bowl when getting a haircut?

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Eventual Carrion  May 21, 2019 • 6:41:04am

re: #107 Dave In Austin

It’s mostly snark. I think it’s safe to say it won’t change anytime soon. I still want to know why Southern white men continue to use a bowl when getting a haircut?

It’s all momma gots in her cupboard

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Decatur Deb  May 21, 2019 • 6:42:15am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And they never abandoned a patriarchal view of society in which women are chattel.

Hard to find a geographic boundary for that.

re: #105 Belafon

Iran has both Jews and Christians living within its borders. But you are correct that the problems in Alabama are race related.

The slavery hangover very quickly morphed into economic dysfunction. Reconstruction sharecropping and 19th Cent anti-labor ideology really solidified things. (h/t Bernie).

Under it all is the sick psychology of the Lost Cause.

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lizardofid  May 21, 2019 • 6:48:29am

re: #109 Decatur Deb

Hard to find a geographic boundary for that.

The the slavery hangover very quickly morphed into economic dysfunction. Reconstruction sharecropping and 19th Cent anti-labor ideology really solidified things. (h/t Bernie).

Under it all is the sick psychology of the Lost Cause.

Andrew F’n Johnson

spit.

Oh, good morning!

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Dave In Austin  May 21, 2019 • 6:49:14am

re: #108 Eventual Carrion

No….. Those are the Lawyers, Drs., and Men of the Good Book. The Southern Gentry if you will. That haircuts been there since I was stationed there in the mid 70’s. The Waylon Cut

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Decatur Deb  May 21, 2019 • 6:52:32am

re: #111 Dave In Austin

No….. Those are the Lawyers, Drs., and Men of the Good Book. The Southern Gentry if you will. That haircuts been there since I was stationed there in the mid 70’s. The Waylon Cut

I’ve burned through just about every Guns ‘N Ammo barbershop in town. It’s impolite not to talk in the chair, and I’m not talking politics with a guy holding a straight razor.

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makeitstop  May 21, 2019 • 6:54:31am

What time is McGahn’s hearing supposed to start?

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 21, 2019 • 7:11:48am

re: #113 makeitstop

10AM… so basically now.

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Dave In Austin  May 21, 2019 • 7:17:43am

Collins Whining

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lizardofid  May 21, 2019 • 7:20:53am

re: #109 Decatur Deb

Hard to find a geographic boundary for that.

The the slavery hangover very quickly morphed into economic dysfunction. Reconstruction sharecropping and 19th Cent anti-labor ideology really solidified things. (h/t Bernie).

Under it all is the sick psychology of the Lost Cause.

comment reminded me of this.

pbs.org

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Dave In Austin  May 21, 2019 • 7:26:11am

Boy….. We just got an inch of rain on about 2 minutes. Then the power went out. My house is rebooting.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 21, 2019 • 7:26:11am
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DangerMan  May 21, 2019 • 7:26:34am

Patience. It’s what’s for breakfast.

Judge Rules Against Trump

the opinion (via cnn)

- Judge basically said no to all their arguments.
- and cummings (presumably in anticipation) did absolutely everything right down the line from the start
(ianal)

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Decatur Deb  May 21, 2019 • 7:28:25am

re: #116 lizardofid

comment reminded me of this.

pbs.org

Very much. The trick now is to prevent another ‘rollback’ that sweeps away all the AA, womens’ and liberal White progress since the ’60s. Then we can go back to fighting over shares of a growing pie.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 21, 2019 • 7:29:06am

re: #118 GlutenFreeJesus

“The idea that some bureaucrat or some editorial board in Los Angeles thinks that they know how best 100 million Americans should store their firearms is just beyond ridiculous.

“The phrase ‘well-regulated militia’ being beyond my limited powers of comprehension, I believe that Americans should have unlimited rights to acquire firearms without any governmental restrictions on how to store or handle them safely.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 21, 2019 • 7:30:46am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I heard recently that “well-regulated” back then doesn’t mean what it means today.

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William Lewis  May 21, 2019 • 7:31:27am

re: #110 lizardofid

Andrew F’n Johnson

spit.

Oh, good morning!

Woodrow F’n Wilson for making it academically acceptable while at Princeton & segregating Washington.

He’s one of the few reasons to hope hell is real.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 21, 2019 • 7:34:55am

re: #122 GlutenFreeJesus

I heard recently that “well-regulated” back then doesn’t mean what it means today.

It means they all poo at around the same time every day?

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Citizen K  May 21, 2019 • 7:36:57am
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DangerMan  May 21, 2019 • 7:37:11am

re: #118 GlutenFreeJesus

“The idea that some bureaucrat or some editorial board in Los Angeles thinks that they know how best 100 million Americans should store their firearms is just beyond ridiculous

if you lose control of your firearm, including how you ‘stored’ it, you should lose your freedom, your finances and your future.

- jail
- fines and civil liability
- lose your 2A rights

NO second chances or do overs

if you dont want to be ‘told’ what to do, then take fucking responsibility

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 21, 2019 • 7:41:19am

re: #115 Dave In Austin

Collins Whining

Trump pulling the string in its back again and it whines like a Chatty Cathy doll…

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Dave In Austin  May 21, 2019 • 7:43:58am

re: #127 Joe Bacon 🌹

Doug Collins the minority’s leader in the house.

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ipsos  May 21, 2019 • 7:44:02am

re: #127 Joe Bacon 🌹

Wrong Collins - this is the House Judiciary.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2019 • 7:47:40am

Got my new eyeglasses and

HOLY CRAP!

I have never been able to see this well.

wow

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 21, 2019 • 7:49:04am

re: #129 ipsos

Wrong Collins - this is the House Judiciary.

Correcting…

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2019 • 7:51:48am

re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth

Got my new eyeglasses and

HOLY CRAP!

I have never been able to see this well.

wow

Jimmy Cliff - I Can See Clearly Now (Video Version)

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2019 • 7:54:01am

Democrats in disarray…or something. Via politico:

House Democratic leaders sparred internally on Monday over whether to begin an impeachment inquiry against President Donald Trump, with Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her allies rejecting the call to move forward for now, according to multiple sources.

Reps. David Cicilline of Rhode Island, Jamie Raskin of Maryland and Joe Neguse of Colorado — all members of Democratic leadership — pushed to begin impeachment proceedings during a leadership meeting in Pelosi’s office, said the sources. Pelosi and Reps. Rosa DeLauro of Connecticut, Ben Ray Luján of New Mexico, Hakeem Jeffries of New York and Cheri Bustos of Illinois — some of her key allies — rejected their calls, saying Democrats’ message is being drowned out by the fight over possibly impeaching Trump.

Raskin — a former law professor — said he wasn’t advocating impeaching Trump but suggested that opening an impeachment inquiry would strengthen their legal position while allowing Democrats to move forward with their legislative agenda.

Pelosi dismissed this argument, asking Raskin whether he wanted to shut down the other five committees working on Trump investigations in favor of the Judiciary Committee.

“You want to tell Elijah Cummings to go home?” Pelosi quipped, referring to the chairman of the Oversight and Reform Committee.

And in a Democratic Steering and Policy Committee meeting, Rep. Steve Cohen of Tennessee stood up and demanded Trump’s impeachment. Pelosi then countered, “This is not about politics, it’s about what’s best for the American people,” said a member who attended the meeting.

While Pelosi and her top Democrats argue that a majority of House Democrats don’t want to impeach Trump, she is under growing pressure from some of her most hard-line members to move more forcefully against the president.

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qubit2020  May 21, 2019 • 7:57:37am

re: #44 jaunte

That show was amazing. John Heilemann had an epic rant comparing Justin Amash’s call for impeachment to Nancy Pelosi’s (and the rest of the Congressional Democrats) cowardice. “every Democrat believes Trump committed crimes. Everyone of them.” Yet, they will not commit to their constitutional duty to protect the republic from a rogue president. They are all calculating the perfect political moment to go forward while they fritter away any momentum they had. They are not just losing Independents, They are losing Democrats.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 21, 2019 • 8:01:28am

re: #134 qubit2020

I am gonna trust Nancy’s judgement on how to go forward on this. Politics is not just rhetoric and Internet exchanges, it is about choosing the right moment to make the right move.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2019 • 8:02:36am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2019 • 8:10:27am

re: #135 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am gonna trust Nancy’s judgement on how to go forward on this. Politics is not just rhetoric and Internet exchanges, it is about choosing the right moment to make the right move.

I’m trying, but she’s losing me more and more. I feel like NOW is the right time to act. We just can’t continually leave Trump with the impression that he (or any future President) can get away with this. There MUST be consequences.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2019 • 8:11:10am

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

“The report did not include either thing”

It did if you’re a Republican.

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lawhawk  May 21, 2019 • 8:12:10am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2019 • 8:13:29am

re: #139 lawhawk

I’m actually kind of surprised he just didn’t pick a hiring manager to throw under the bus for this and claim he had “no idea this was happening”.

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lawhawk  May 21, 2019 • 8:15:10am

re: #135 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am gonna trust Nancy’s judgement on how to go forward on this. Politics is not just rhetoric and Internet exchanges, it is about choosing the right moment to make the right move.

She’s trying to balance the competing interests of the caucus, retaining the House, trying to take the Senate, and the WH.

That’s a lot to balance compared with the overall sheer volume of crimes committed by Trumpworld and Trump personally. Given the way Trumpworld continues to obstruct justice and refuse to follow subpoenas or court orders, she’s appearing to be dragging her feet towards impeachment, when these are the actions that are themselves impeachable offenses.

My guess is that impeachment will get underway over the summer because that seems to be following the timeline of Watergate. The refusal to submit to questions and withholding key information is a sign that Trumpworld knows that this information would be highly damaging to Trump, and that it isn’t protected by privilege.

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qubit2020  May 21, 2019 • 8:15:16am

re: #135 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I appreciate where you’re coming from, however, I disagree. The more political calculation is is made vs a moral imperative the less persuasive (I think) your case becomes. This issue has a shelf life. Most people have not/will not read the entire Mueller report. Trump and his enablers keep shouting “no collusion/no obstruction” while stonewalling Congress. Sure, the courts may rule against them… someday. However, if your play is simply run out the clock before the elections, many people will have moved on. Democrats may be in for a rude surprise when some folks simply give up on them - and the entire process.

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DangerMan  May 21, 2019 • 8:21:51am

re: #133 Eclectic Cyborg

Democrats in disarray…or something. Via politico:

House Democratic leaders sparred internally on Monday over whether to begin an impeachment inquiry against President Donald Trump, with Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her allies rejecting the call to move forward for now, according to multiple sources.

politico of course with it’s daily DID story

as if everyone should agree on everything all the time publicly and privately. no need to ever discuss, debate, consider alternatives.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 21, 2019 • 8:23:45am

re: #142 qubit2020

I appreciate where you’re coming from, however, I disagree. The more political calculation is is made vs a moral imperative the less persuasive (I think) your case becomes. This issue has a shelf life.

We expected the Mueller Report to be a bombshell. Indeed, it seems that the GOP has defused it, but it has started a trickle that I believe will grow into a flood.

And Nancy understands the mechanics of Washington better than any of us, and certainly better than Donald Trump.

Which is why, although I want to see these goons brought to justice as soon as possible, will just have to continue to be patient and accept that things still have to get worse before they can start getting better

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2019 • 8:25:57am

re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But what if this is a miscalculation and in reality they are just improving Trumps re-election chances?

Nancy may well be overestimating the political intelligence of the average American.

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Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2019 • 8:26:42am

So, got done watching the third episode of Chernobyl.

Again, exceedingly well done, well-written, well-directed and of course, well-acted. And I have to add, the people behind the VFX deserve an award - their work on recreating ARS injuries is absolute, undiluted nightmare fuel.

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DangerMan  May 21, 2019 • 8:28:46am

re: #137 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m trying, but she’s losing me more and more. I feel like NOW is the right time to act. We just can’t continually leave Trump with the impression that he (or any future President) can get away with this. There MUST be consequences.

i mostly discount the ‘news’
they are still lining up the ducks (imo)
the judge’s opinion, upthread is a good example.
as far as i can tell he left them no daylight

as electoral-vote.com wrote:

he shredded the argument being made by the President and his lawyers. That opinion is now available to judges who are considering similar cases, for them to review and to use as a potential template. That includes the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, and the Supreme Court, both of which may or may not agree to hear an appeal of Mehta’s ruling. If they do agree, it’s going to be hard to drag the process out for very long, given how carefully the Judge laid everything out.

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DangerMan  May 21, 2019 • 8:29:01am

re: #138 Eclectic Cyborg

“The report did not include either thing”

It did if you’re a Republican.

or if you didnt read it

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calochortus  May 21, 2019 • 8:29:20am

re: #145 Eclectic Cyborg

But what if this is a miscalculation and in reality they are just improving Trumps re-election chances?

Nancy may well be overestimating the political intelligence of the average American.

It could be a miscalculation. It might be the perfect path. No one knows. I do know that Pelosi’s guess is probably way better than mine. She has a lot of experience and nerves of steel.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 21, 2019 • 8:30:48am

re: #145 Eclectic Cyborg

But what if this is a miscalculation and in reality they are just improving Trumps re-election chances?

Nancy may well be overestimating the political intelligence of the average American.

On the other hand, what if it’s not a miscalculation, they’re tanking DT’s re-election chances, and she’s not overestimating the political intelligence of the average American?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 21, 2019 • 8:32:32am

re: #150 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

On the other hand, what if it’s not a miscalculation, they’re tanking DT’s re-election chances, and she’s not overestimating the political intelligence of the average American?

and what if the GOP wants her to overreact and to do so immediately?

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lawhawk  May 21, 2019 • 8:32:51am

re: #146 Dr Lizardo

So, got done watching the third episode of Chernobyl.

Again, exceedingly well done, well-written, well-directed and of course, well-acted. And I have to add, the people behind the VFX deserve an award - their work on recreating ARS injuries is absolute, undiluted nightmare fuel.

It makes it excruciatingly hard to watch.

The interesting thing was how the miners actually were requisitioned to do the work and how their leader tried to do right by his people.

In the end, they never had to implement the cooling system, because the reactor never melted all the way down - they filled in the tunnel built with concrete and called it a day.

But at the time, they didn’t know that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2019 • 8:39:22am

NOPE

(already voted this morning, come home to the phone ringing…and that whiney orange voice…*SPIT*)

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Citizen K  May 21, 2019 • 8:41:55am

re: #137 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m trying, but she’s losing me more and more. I feel like NOW is the right time to act. We just can’t continually leave Trump with the impression that he (or any future President) can get away with this. There MUST be consequences.

I’m pretty much here. Shit seems to be spiraling out far faster than this slow burn toward impeachment strategy she’s banking on seems to allow. Trump is quickly building a bulwark against any sort of accountability and has the DoJ ready to sweep up anyone failing the loyalty test. They need to act NOW, and decisively so.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 21, 2019 • 8:42:21am

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

NOPE

(already voted this morning, come home to the phone ringing…and that whiney orange voice…*SPIT*)

Eeeeew. I’m grateful that I don’t have to register as anything but a Democrat, and thus don’t risk hearing that voice when I pick up the phone.

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DangerMan  May 21, 2019 • 8:46:24am

re: #140 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m actually kind of surprised he just didn’t pick a hiring manager to throw under the bus for this and claim he had “no idea this was happening”.

as i said when this broke the first time in the first place:

either this ‘policy’ was orchestrated high in the trump org, or every hiring manager at every site he owned independently and simultaneously decided to do this themselves

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Belafon  May 21, 2019 • 8:47:21am

re: #145 Eclectic Cyborg

But what if this is a miscalculation and in reality they are just improving Trumps re-election chances?

Nancy may well be overestimating the political intelligence of the average American.

If she is, then impeachment will never be an option. Right now, most of the public does not want impeachment. We’re sitting at about the same levels we were when the Saturday Night Massacre occurred. Congress began investigations and that number climbed over the summer to the point that impeachment of Nixon became popular.

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Belafon  May 21, 2019 • 8:49:42am

If I were in Pelosi’s shoes, I would be privately telling everyone who wants impeachment to keep yelling about it, but don’t get frustrated if it doesn’t happen immediately, because the yelling will keep it alive.

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Dave In Austin  May 21, 2019 • 8:51:45am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2019 • 8:53:31am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 21, 2019 • 8:55:24am

re: #159 Dave In Austin

It’s about what Emmet Flood said: if the intel community can target the President for political reasons, imagine what they can do to any one of us.

His lawyer, campaign manager and campaign adviser are all in jail.

That is not political targeting, that is investigating high crimes and misdemeanors

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Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2019 • 9:00:36am

re: #152 lawhawk

It makes it excruciatingly hard to watch.

The interesting thing was how the miners actually were requisitioned to do the work and how their leader tried to do right by his people.

In the end, they never had to implement the cooling system, because the reactor never melted all the way down - they filled in the tunnel built with concrete and called it a day.

But at the time, they didn’t know that.

At the end of the episode, where they were burying the firefighters who’d died of ARS - in zinc coffins, then all the coffins sealed in concrete…..damn, that was hard to watch.

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Belafon  May 21, 2019 • 9:00:55am

re: #159 Dave In Austin

The intel community, prior to Trump, operated independently specifically so it would not be used for political purposes.

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Mike Lamb  May 21, 2019 • 9:04:11am

re: #118 GlutenFreeJesus

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The idea that some bureaucrat thinks he knows better than 100 million Americans regarding how to safely drive a vehicle is beyond ridiculous.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 21, 2019 • 9:04:15am

Nancy’s strategy is “I don’t want to impeach, don’t MAKE me do it!”

She is giving Trump enough rope that he will think he is bulletproof and do more and more crimes openly until she goes “LOOK AT WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!”

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Stanley Sea  May 21, 2019 • 9:06:03am
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Mike Lamb  May 21, 2019 • 9:08:15am

re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We expected the Mueller Report to be a bombshell. Indeed, it seems that the GOP has defused it, but it has started a trickle that I believe will grow into a flood.

And Nancy understands the mechanics of Washington better than any of us, and certainly better than Donald Trump.

Which is why, although I want to see these goons brought to justice as soon as possible, will just have to continue to be patient and accept that things still have to get worse before they can start getting better

In any sane timeline, the Mueller report was a bombshell.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2019 • 9:08:37am

re: #167 Mike Lamb

In any sane timeline, the Mueller report was a bombshell.

FUCKING THIS.

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Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2019 • 9:09:29am

re: #167 Mike Lamb

In any sane timeline, the Mueller report was a bombshell.

If the GOP were a sane political party, the GOP leadership would’ve gone to the White House and demanded Trump’s immediate resignation.

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Amory Blaine  May 21, 2019 • 9:11:25am

re: #52 DodgerFan1988

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Belafon  May 21, 2019 • 9:11:29am

re: #165 The Vicious Babushka

Nancy’s strategy is “I don’t want to impeach, don’t MAKE me do it!”

She is giving Trump enough rope that he will think he is bulletproof and do more and more crimes openly until she goes “LOOK AT WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!”

I was reading a quote somewhere that said her one concern right now is that one committe wants to start impeachment while about a dozen other ongoing investigations aren’t ready.

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Eventual Carrion  May 21, 2019 • 9:13:20am

re: #171 Belafon

I was reading a quote somewhere that said her one concern right now is that one committe wants to start impeachment while about a dozen other ongoing investigations aren’t ready.

This. All your chambers better be loaded when you start this battle.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 21, 2019 • 9:14:49am

Good Lord: New Coke is coming back….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2019 • 9:19:25am

guess he’s gonna declare war on Mexico now, too…

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2019 • 9:20:43am

re: #173 Eric The Fruit Bat

Good Lord: New Coke is coming back….

I saw that LOL. Though I believe this is just a limited time crossover promo with Stranger Things.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 21, 2019 • 9:22:01am

re: #173 Eric The Fruit Bat

Good Lord: New Coke is coming back….

Just waiting for New Diet Tab…

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Dave In Austin  May 21, 2019 • 9:22:45am

re: #176 Joe Bacon 🌹

Or Diet Fresca….

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Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2019 • 9:23:36am

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

I saw that LOL. Though I believe this is just a limited time crossover promo with Stranger Things.

That makes some sense, actually; New Coke was definitely a thing in the ’80s.

Not a good thing, mind you - but a thing.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 21, 2019 • 9:24:45am

re: #163 Belafon

The intel community, prior to Trump, operated independently specifically so it would not be used for political purposes.

The orange shit-goblin’s administration is trying to pretend that Obama’s administration did it first, therefore ‘not our fault and we’ll keep doing it.’

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Sir John Barron  May 21, 2019 • 9:24:50am

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

guess he’s gonna declare war on Mexico now, too…

Mexico is wrong and I will soon be giving a response!

Uh, oh, he’s gonna tweet again.

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Dave In Austin  May 21, 2019 • 9:25:54am

I bet he shuts the border down……

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2019 • 9:25:58am

re: #180 Sir John Barron

Probably another cheap PR stunt trip to the border.

Are you ready El Paso?

/

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Decatur Deb  May 21, 2019 • 9:26:45am

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

guess he’s gonna declare war on Mexico now, too…

Mexico needs a wall.

The little-noticed surge across the US-Mexico border: Americans heading south

“Despite the fact that Donald Trump insults my country every day, here we receive the entire international community, beginning with Americans, with open arms and hearts,” Villareal said.

Mexican authorities say that many of the Americans are probably undocumented - typically, they’ve overstayed their six-month visas. But the government has shown little concern.

nola.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2019 • 9:27:03am

re: #178 Dr Lizardo

That makes some sense, actually; New Coke was definitely a thing in the ’80s.

Not a good thing, mind you - but a thing.

I remember my first taste of New Coke back then and said “congratulations, you just re-invented Pepsi”

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The Vicious Babushka  May 21, 2019 • 9:27:59am

Taking a little vacation to Canada next week. I already bought Z’s medical emergency insurance.

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Decatur Deb  May 21, 2019 • 9:29:08am

re: #185 The Vicious Babushka

Taking a little vacation to Canada next week. I already bought Z’s medical emergency insurance.

Avoiding the Troll Bridge?

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Amory Blaine  May 21, 2019 • 9:30:16am

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

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sagehen  May 21, 2019 • 9:31:14am

re: #157 Belafon

If she is, then impeachment will never be an option. Right now, most of the public does not want impeachment. We’re sitting at about the same levels we were when the Saturday Night Massacre occurred. Congress began investigations and that number climbed over the summer to the point that impeachment of Nixon became popular.

Support for impeaching Nixon climbed slowly, slowly, slowly as the hearings went on, slowly, slowly…

Until the tapes came out. Then SPIKE!! overnight, and enough R senators got on board.

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Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2019 • 9:32:50am

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

I remember my first taste of New Coke back then and said “congratulations, you just re-invented Pepsi”

Yeah, that was pretty much my reaction too.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 21, 2019 • 9:32:50am

re: #186 Decatur Deb

Avoiding the Troll Bridge?

We always enter Canada from Port Huron and return through the Windsor Tunnel. No need to use the Troll Bridge. Once the new Gordie Howe Bridge opens the Troll is fucked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2019 • 9:32:58am
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DangerMan  May 21, 2019 • 9:34:42am

re: #167 Mike Lamb

In any sane timeline, the Mueller report was a bombshell.

it would help if we were able to, you know, read it all, with the supporting dox

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2019 • 9:35:09am

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

And who DIDN’T see this coming?

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DangerMan  May 21, 2019 • 9:35:58am

re: #169 Dr Lizardo

If the GOP were a sane political party, the GOP leadership would’ve gone to the White House and demanded Trump’s immediate resignation.

post election, they could have reined him in the first week

of course if the party was sane they never would have voted for him

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Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2019 • 9:36:12am

Another major American retailer bites the dust.

Dressbarn is closing all of its stores.

The women’s retailer announced Monday “plans to commence a wind-down of its retail operations, including the eventual closure of its approximately 650 stores.”

Stores remain open along with the Dressbarn website, the company said in a statement.

“For more than 50 years, Dressbarn has served women’s fashion needs, and we thank all of our dedicated associates for their commitment to Dressbarn and our valued customers,” said Steven Taylor, Dressbarn chief financial officer, in a statement. “This decision was difficult, but necessary, as the Dressbarn chain has not been operating at an acceptable level of profitability in today’s retail environment.”

This year has been a tough year for retailers with more store closings announced than in all of 2018. With Dressbarn closures, there are more than 7,000 closings announced for 2019.

eu.usatoday.com

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Amory Blaine  May 21, 2019 • 9:37:10am

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

Uh, then why was she arrested? The governor should be ok with this.

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Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2019 • 9:37:11am

re: #194 DangerMan

post election, they could have reined him in the first week

of course if the party was sane they never would have voted for him

Precisely - he never would’ve made it to the primaries.

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wrenchwench  May 21, 2019 • 9:37:21am

re: #193 Eclectic Cyborg

And who DIDN’T see this coming?

Those who are Not Reality-Actuated (NRA).

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 21, 2019 • 9:39:30am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 21, 2019 • 9:40:56am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2019 • 9:42:01am

re: #195 Dr Lizardo

“This year has been a tough year for retailers with more store closings announced than in all of 2018. With Dressbarn closures, there are more than 7,000 closings announced for 2019.”

WINNING! MAGA!

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2019 • 9:43:16am

re: #196 Amory Blaine

Uh, then why was she arrested? The governor should be ok with this.

I could hazard a guess why….

But I suppose it’s possible the law isn’t officially in force yet.

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Amory Blaine  May 21, 2019 • 9:45:50am

re: #202 Eclectic Cyborg

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Decatur Deb  May 21, 2019 • 9:46:37am

re: #202 Eclectic Cyborg

I could hazard a guess why….

But I suppose it’s possible the law isn’t officially in force yet.

It will also have to dovetail with Fed law. Probably some level of training and deputization to make that work.

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Rightwingconspirator  May 21, 2019 • 9:46:43am

Today at the Van Nuys courthouse there will be a protest against the new anti abortion anti Roe V Wade law. I’m working but my wife, once known as Dragonlady around here will be there.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 21, 2019 • 9:46:55am

MY Congressperson!

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Belafon  May 21, 2019 • 9:47:22am

re: #199 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This is exactly the system you wanted set up, isn’t it, where people get to choose who they want to succeed? Oh, I see, it wasn’t supposed to work for black people.

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Decatur Deb  May 21, 2019 • 9:47:44am

re: #205 Rightwingconspirator

Today at the Van Nuys courthouse there will be a protest against the new anti abortion anti Roe V Wade law. I’m working but my wife, once known as Dragonlady around here will be there.

It’s been a bad week for dragon ladies.

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Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2019 • 9:48:21am

re: #203 Amory Blaine

A photo basically guaranteed to make even the staunchest pro-Second Amendment NRA Life Member instantly soil themselves.

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Amory Blaine  May 21, 2019 • 9:48:54am

re: #204 Decatur Deb

It will also have to dovetail with Fed law. Probably some level of training and deputization to make that work.

Narrator: It will never work.

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lawhawk  May 21, 2019 • 9:50:03am

re: #202 Eclectic Cyborg

It looks like the law is in force, but the law also requires that each school district approve of the measure, and that teachers must get training.

There are stipulations: School districts must approve the measure, teachers must volunteer for the program, and all participants are required to undergo a background check and psychiatric evaluation.

Armed teachers must also attend a gun-safety training course with a sheriff’s office.

She failed on those counts.

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Amory Blaine  May 21, 2019 • 9:52:39am

I’m sure the training is to be done by the governors racist pals, with a nice juicy payday from uncle sugar.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 21, 2019 • 9:52:46am

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

According to the school distrcit, Soto will not return to Starkey Elementary this year.

She’ll need to wait until next year to reapply for her job…

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sagehen  May 21, 2019 • 9:52:58am

re: #162 Dr Lizardo

At the end of the episode, where they were burying the firefighters who’d died of ARS - in zinc coffins, then all the coffins sealed in concrete…..damn, that was hard to watch.

I wasn’t paying a lot of attention at the time, but I remember hundreds of American surgeons traveling to Kiev, calls here for everybody of Eastern European descent to donate bone marrow for transplants, to save as many as could be saved. And that letting those American doctors come in to do that was a big-deal opening to the Soviet people seeing the US in a new light, starting the process towards the collapse of the USSR.

Also, Wall Street had jokes. Lots of jokes.

What has feathers and glows in the dark? Chicken Kiev.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 21, 2019 • 9:54:56am

re: #199 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Britton George:

Libertarian, Alex Jones radio, comicbooks, movies, history, pizza, coffee, Ron Paul, MacGyver, James Bond #MAGA, @ThePunisher

Not sure how libertarian fits in with the ‘gimme me shit’ —- oh wait, yes I do.

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wrenchwench  May 21, 2019 • 9:58:02am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 21, 2019 • 9:59:04am

re: #216 wrenchwench

Ooooo, I see some glass art there…

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wrenchwench  May 21, 2019 • 10:02:17am

re: #217 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Ooooo, I see some glass art there…

Even better as little critters outside. Why not both? (Now I wonder whether the threat to beautiful creatures was significantly reduced by photography…)

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Sir John Barron  May 21, 2019 • 10:03:39am

re: #215 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Libertarian, Alex Jones radio, comicbooks, movies, history, pizza, coffee, Ron Paul, MacGyver, James Bond#MAGA, @ThePunisher

Is this an adult person?

/

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Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2019 • 10:07:22am

re: #219 Sir John Barron

Sounds more like some 14-year old wannabe edgelord.

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DangerMan  May 21, 2019 • 10:08:55am

littlegreenfootballs

My first ultramarathon

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 21, 2019 • 10:10:23am

re: #221 DangerMan

You cra-cra. My wife has an ultra-marathoner friend. She wack, too.

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Amory Blaine  May 21, 2019 • 10:10:45am

re: #221 DangerMan

Damn man, takes all I got to get out of bed some days. Congratulations.

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lawhawk  May 21, 2019 • 10:14:29am

re: #221 DangerMan

That’s awesome…. I saw the route map… so that’s quite the view all through the race too. Again, awesome and congrats!

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DangerMan  May 21, 2019 • 10:17:11am

re: #199 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

What about the white folk who are just as deserving? These black colleges are reverse racists, complete jokes: cnn.it

- get your own billionaire
- i thought the whole point was let individuals support the causes and charities they want, not the government

besides, wouldnt this be socializing private donations?

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DangerMan  May 21, 2019 • 10:19:46am

re: #202 Eclectic Cyborg

I could hazard a guess why….

But I suppose it’s possible the law isn’t officially in force yet.

She’s not trained authorized certified etc

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makeitstop  May 21, 2019 • 10:20:08am
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DangerMan  May 21, 2019 • 10:25:52am

re: #222 Colère Tueur de Lapin

You cra-cra. My wife has an ultra-marathoner friend. She wack, too.

It’s definitely a disorder if some kind

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Hecuba's daughter  May 21, 2019 • 10:30:16am

re: #166 Stanley Sea

Elizabeth Warren

@SenWarren
It’s been over 24 hours. No more spoiler alerts. Here’s why @AOC and I are officially on #TeamSansa now.

6,603
10:55 AM - May 21, 2019

Does this signal that AOC is on TeamWarren now?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2019 • 10:33:10am
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Hecuba's daughter  May 21, 2019 • 10:35:31am

re: #194 DangerMan

post election, they could have reined him in the first week

of course if the party was sane they never would have voted for him

It wasn’t the party establishment that nominated him, it was the voters in the Republican primaries. The fault lies with the American public — not the elites who run the political parties. Yes — Mitch violated his oath of office when he refused to sign on with Obama on Russian interference. But I suspect, given “her emails” and Comey’s arrogance, that would have had little effect on the outcome of the election. Trump supporters never cared about Putin.

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Belafon  May 21, 2019 • 10:36:29am

re: #227 makeitstop

Please play Teddy Roosevelt, Amash.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 21, 2019 • 10:39:11am

re: #232 Belafon

Please play Teddy Roosevelt, Amash.

Not possible. After all, Teddy was a successful progressive President with national name recognition and support. If it had been Teddy vs Wilson alone, Teddy would have won.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 21, 2019 • 10:41:02am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2019 • 10:43:13am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2019 • 10:43:39am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 21, 2019 • 10:44:13am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2019 • 10:46:00am
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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 21, 2019 • 10:50:39am
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Hecuba's daughter  May 21, 2019 • 10:50:43am

Once again, GOP leaders show they are beholden to foreign powers. All this talk about MAGA is to fool the rubes.

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DangerMan  May 21, 2019 • 10:50:44am

re: #231 Hecuba’s daughter

It wasn’t the party establishment that nominated him, it was the voters in the Republican primaries. The fault lies with the American public — not the elites who run the political parties. Yes — Mitch violated his oath of office when he refused to sign on with Obama on Russian interference. But I suspect, given “her emails” and Comey’s arrogance, that would have had little effect on the outcome of the election. Trump supporters never cared about Putin.

You’re right
Pre election the populus
Post election the senate..and house for 2 years, thought the populus could have piped up

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Belafon  May 21, 2019 • 10:53:34am

re: #240 Hecuba’s daughter

Once again, GOP leaders show they are beholden to foreign powers. All this talk about MAGA is to fool the rubes.

I missed when the House Minority leader between 2010 and 2018 could block stuff.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2019 • 10:58:59am

re: #240 Hecuba’s daughter

Once again, GOP leaders show they are beholden to foreign powers. All this talk about MAGA is to fool the rubes.

[Embedded content]

The best politicians money can buy.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 21, 2019 • 11:03:04am

re: #234 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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gocart mozart  May 21, 2019 • 11:17:16am
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Jay C  May 21, 2019 • 11:22:57am

re: #231 Hecuba’s daughter

It wasn’t the party establishment that nominated him, it was the voters in the Republican primaries. The fault lies with the American public — not the elites who run the political parties. Yes — Mitch violated his oath of office when he refused to sign on with Obama on Russian interference. But I suspect, given “her emails” and Comey’s arrogance, that would have had little effect on the outcome of the election. Trump supporters never cared about Putin.

Shorter: “We have met the enemy and he is us”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2019 • 11:22:59am

re: #245 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 21, 2019 • 11:24:39am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2019 • 11:25:17am

Fayette County’s website has crashed.
That’s Lexington

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2019 • 11:26:31am

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

I also like how the reporter is assuming that Bevin will win the primary today.

Narrator’s Voice: only if he cheats

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2019 • 11:27:57am

also in Kentucky today:

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 21, 2019 • 11:32:06am

re: #240 Hecuba’s daughter

MCGA!!!

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DangerMan  May 21, 2019 • 11:35:24am

re: #239 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

“If leading officials are willing to break the law and mislead the public about things as minor as interior decorating, and meet with few consequences, why would they hesitate to break the law and mislead on bigger issues?”

as long as the senate is letting ‘em, they won’t hesitate

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DangerMan  May 21, 2019 • 11:36:57am

re: #234 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

i knew what REO meant when i was 15, and not the Speedwagon

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 21, 2019 • 11:42:50am

re: #234 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

I ❤️ KATIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2019 • 11:48:03am

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Fayette County’s website has crashed.
That’s Lexington

I call shenanigans.

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danarchy  May 21, 2019 • 11:53:12am

re: #196 Amory Blaine

Uh, then why was she arrested? The governor should be ok with this.

The Law requires local school board approval and the teachers need to go through a weapons training course before they are eligible. Most school boards have not approved it, and since the bill was signed a week ago, I doubt anyone has gone through the training course yet.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 21, 2019 • 12:57:46pm

re: #152 lawhawk

It makes it excruciatingly hard to watch.

The interesting thing was how the miners actually were requisitioned to do the work and how their leader tried to do right by his people.

In the end, they never had to implement the cooling system, because the reactor never melted all the way down - they filled in the tunnel built with concrete and called it a day.

But at the time, they didn’t know that.

My favorite character in this increasingly hard-to-watch series is the head of the miners. His taunt: “You don’t have enough bullets to shoot us all and the survivors will beat the living shit out of you” struck home for me; I worked in Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Georgia, Azerbaijan, etc., and that guy was the epitome of the “hard as a coffin nail” blue-collar Ūdarniki I came to know.

They’re not afraid of a goddam thing. They won’t back down if you point the entire Red Army at them, because that’s their daily life.

All of them patting the mining apparatchik on his delicate robins-egg blue suit to muss it up was perfect.

We need more of this attitude in the modern Democratic party. My grampa sure as fuck had it, after the Depression spent slaving in the lumber camps for the WPA.


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