I’m With Samantha Bee on This: Democrats Should Not Appear on Fox News [VIDEO]

It may be politically expedient but it’s morally wrong
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Elizabeth Warren launched the internet into a fanatical tizzy when she refused to appear on Fox News, which begs the question: why are Democratic candidates going on Fox News at all?

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plansbandc  May 23, 2019 • 12:30:44pm

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Scottish Dragon  May 23, 2019 • 12:33:24pm

Yes. I vehemently disagree with Bill Maher on this. Stay away from Fox News.

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lawhawk  May 23, 2019 • 12:38:31pm

Tornado warnings up for the DC-Baltimore corridor:

The National Weather Service in Sterling Virginia has issued a
* Tornado Warning for… Central Howard County in central Maryland…
* Until 400 PM EDT.
* At 330 PM EDT, a severe thunderstorm capable of producing a tornado was located over Columbia, moving east at 40 mph.
HAZARD…Tornado and quarter size hail.
SOURCE…Radar indicated rotation.
IMPACT…For those in the direct path of a tornado touchdown, flying debris will be dangerous to those caught without shelter. Damage to roofs, siding, and windows may occur. Mobile homes may be damaged or destroyed. Tree damage is likely.
* This dangerous storm will be near… Ellicott City around 335 PM EDT.
Other locations impacted by this tornadic thunderstorm include Simpsonville, Clarksville and Highland.
PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS…
Heavy rainfall may hide this tornado. Do not wait to see or hear the tornado. TAKE COVER NOW!
&&
TORNADO…RADAR INDICATED HAIL…1.00IN
Issued by Baltimore/Washington - MD, US, National Weather Service

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William Lewis  May 23, 2019 • 12:38:35pm

Me three. Call Faux what it is: a GOP Propaganda outlet.

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Mattand  May 23, 2019 • 12:44:37pm

re: #2 Scottish Dragon

Yes. I vehemently disagree with Bill Maher on this. Stay away from Fox News.

LOL, given all the other stuff Maher is consistently wrong about, it’s best to treat him like Bill Kristol at this point.

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plansbandc  May 23, 2019 • 12:46:54pm

Going on Fox legitimizes it and it’s tacit approval for their bullshit. Don’t fucking do it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 12:53:26pm

let the smiting begin

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 1:03:34pm

Seems there is a public personality named Hayden Panetierre. She is in the electronic headlines again for boyfriend problems.

It might be an artifact of eye surgeries, but I can never see the mentions without reading her as “Hayden Planetarium”.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 23, 2019 • 1:04:39pm
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cat-tikvah  May 23, 2019 • 1:04:53pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

Before I saw your comment, I was thinking the same thing!

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Dr. Matt  May 23, 2019 • 1:06:54pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

let the smiting begin

If a “D” was in the White House, foxtards and all the fundie types would be screeching that their sins were responsible.

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William Lewis  May 23, 2019 • 1:10:20pm

re: #11 Dr. Matt

If a “D” was in the White House, foxtards and all the fundie types would be screeching that their sins were responsible.

Whereas I did entertain that thought this morning about Missouri… Alas, the way I believe doesn’t allow for that. None of us should be judged as we deserve; give mercy instead for that is all any of us can hope for.

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2019 • 1:13:14pm
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Belafon  May 23, 2019 • 1:16:22pm

From the previous thread:

re: #67 DangerMan

so he apparently read the mostly unredacted (all unredacted?) report in detail

and he’s talking about it (which i thought was a no no if you agreed to read it)

ALL the dems should be lining up asking, begging, demanding to read it no differently than amash did
(yes i know ted lieu sent a letter doing exactly that)

let barr say “no”

Is he talking about anything that isn’t public?

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2019 • 1:17:44pm
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lawhawk  May 23, 2019 • 1:17:54pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Animal House - All Is Well!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 1:19:52pm
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Dave In Austin  May 23, 2019 • 1:20:39pm

Drone footage of Jeff City

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Dr. Matt  May 23, 2019 • 1:22:57pm

The small gummit GOP is giving 16 billion in welfare to farmers because Dear Leader is fucking them over.

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goddamnedfrank  May 23, 2019 • 1:26:00pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 23, 2019 • 1:30:48pm

re: #20 goddamnedfrank

This is fascinating @KellyannePolls because I once saw you hand your chewed gum to someone checking people in at a White House Correspondents after party. I have never seen anything more obnoxious and disgusting — and after living in DC for 20 years, that’s saying a lot.

This is the sort of ad hominem attack that plays well with the base and gets little or no pushback from the rest of the media

and it fits their narrative of snooty privileged liberals who don’t care about white working people

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2019 • 1:30:55pm

The treatment Democrats would get on Fox News is basically the grown up version of the “Stop hitting yourself!” game.

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2019 • 1:32:34pm

this fuckin guy

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DangerMan  May 23, 2019 • 1:32:45pm

re: #14 Belafon

From the previous thread:

Is he talking about anything that isn’t public?

ok apparently not
from his 5/18 tweet storm

I offer these conclusions only after having read Mueller’s redacted report carefully and completely, having read or watched pertinent statements and testimony, and having discussed this matter with my staff, who thoroughly reviewed materials and provided me with further analysis.

In comparing Barr’s principal conclusions, congressional testimony, and other statements to Mueller’s report, it is clear that Barr intended to mislead the public about Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s analysis and findings.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 23, 2019 • 1:33:08pm

re: #22 Eclectic Cyborg

The treatment Democrats would get on Fox News is basically the grown up version of the “Stop hitting yourself!” game.

The only reason to go on would be to ask them the questions about why they present such a distorted and bigoted view of the news.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2019 • 1:34:00pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

I believe Nancy Pelosis version of events. Why? Because it sounds EXACTLY like Trump would act.

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2019 • 1:34:07pm
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sagehen  May 23, 2019 • 1:34:28pm

re: #12 William Lewis

Whereas I did entertain that thought this morning about Missouri… Alas, the way I believe doesn’t allow for that. None of us should be judged as we deserve; give mercy instead for that is all any of us can hope for.

Now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe.

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2019 • 1:35:17pm
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Dr. Matt  May 23, 2019 • 1:36:01pm

President Pelosi is trolling the fuck out of Donnie.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 1:37:48pm
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wrenchwench  May 23, 2019 • 1:38:22pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

[stable genius]

That’s the horse that gets the oats in ADDITION to some hay.

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2019 • 1:39:23pm
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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2019 • 1:39:48pm

Pelosi is seriously winding him up now.

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goddamnedfrank  May 23, 2019 • 1:40:51pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 23, 2019 • 1:43:40pm

re: #31 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

‘That’s what you get for being a fascist.’ — People are throwing milkshakes at far-right figures in the UK

Police have been asking McD’s and similar shops not to sell milkshakes when Farage and his neo Fascist buddies are holding political rallies in the vicinity.

The Revolution will not be pasteurized!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 23, 2019 • 1:44:22pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

Pelosi is seriously winding him up now.

She knows how to draw him out and now the nation is talking about what a “stable genius” he must be…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 1:45:18pm

what a fucking embarrassment

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2019 • 1:45:46pm
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Belafon  May 23, 2019 • 1:46:44pm

re: #36 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Revolution will not be pasteurized!

+10 Well done!

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jaunte  May 23, 2019 • 1:46:57pm
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makeitstop  May 23, 2019 • 1:48:50pm

re: #8 Decatur Deb

Seems there is a public personality named Hayden Panetierre. She is in the electronic headlines again for boyfriend problems.

It might be an artifact of eye surgeries, but I can never see the mentions without reading her as “Hayden Planetarium”.

Hayden was ‘The Cheerleader,’ the heroine in the late, lamented TV series Heroes.

Don’t be too rough on her, she’s a good liberal. :)

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Dave In Austin  May 23, 2019 • 1:48:55pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

Pelosi is seriously winding him up now.

It will get worse as the walls around him shrink.

That’s a HUGE troll….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 23, 2019 • 1:48:59pm

re: #40 Belafon

+10 Well done!

(stole that from my UK Brother in Law)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 1:49:16pm
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jaunte  May 23, 2019 • 1:49:27pm
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Mike Lamb  May 23, 2019 • 1:51:40pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

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Also seems like blatant over-compensation to show that he’s no fan of Wikileaks.

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Belafon  May 23, 2019 • 1:51:51pm

re: #41 jaunte

I can’t see what Trump is proposing, but wasn’t the original thing about Assange was that he helped whoever it was (Snowden or Manning, I don’t remember which) actually acquire the classified information?

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gocart mozart  May 23, 2019 • 1:53:24pm
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jaunte  May 23, 2019 • 1:53:47pm

re: #48 Belafon

WaPo:

“…Prosecutors alleged in the new indictment that Assange and WikiLeaks “repeatedly encouraged sources with access to classified information to steal it” and give it to the anti-secrecy organization, posting on its website a “most wanted” list for leaks organized by country and saying the documents must be “likely to have political, diplomatic, ethical or historical impact on release.” They alleged that Manning responded to that clarion call, downloading nearly four completely government databases of war reports, Guantanamo Bay detainee assessments and State Department cables and turned them over to WikiLeaks.

The disclosures, prosecutors alleged, contained the names of local Afghans and Iraqis who had given information to the U.S., as well as other confidential sources for the U.S. government. They said the releases “put innocent people in grave danger simply because they provided information to the United States.”

Prosecutors seemed to distinguish Assange from a traditional publisher by his directions to Manning. They alleged, as they had previously, that Assange agreed to help Manning crack a password that might have helped cover their tracks — though the effort was apparently unsuccessful.

Justice Department officials could not immediately point to a successful prosecution of a case comparable to the charges filed against Assange.”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 23, 2019 • 1:54:56pm

re: #2 Scottish Dragon

Yes. I vehemently disagree with Bill Maher on this. Stay away from Fox News.

Though it is kind of cool when Fox News audiences give Democratic candidates standing ovations.

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jaunte  May 23, 2019 • 1:55:07pm

“…First Amendment advocates have expressed concerns that prosecuting Assange could set a dangerous precedent. President Obama’s administration declined to charge Assange with a crime out of concern that it would be too difficult to distinguish WikiLeaks from a news organization.

Floyd Abrams, an expert in First Amendment law, previously told the Post the 101-year-old act has long been viewed by press advocates as a “perpetually loaded gun that could too easily be aimed at the press, with ultimately Supreme Court interpretation unpredictable.”

“If it violated the Espionage Act for WikiLeaks to gather information from sources not permitted to release it and then publish it, then what American newspaper could be free from risk?” said Abrams, who practices at Cahill Gordon & Reindel in New York.

Under President Trump the Department of Justice revived its Assange investigation, but when he was charged under seal in 2017 it was with a narrow complaint that sidestepped such concerns by focusing on a single incident of attempted hacking.”

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gocart mozart  May 23, 2019 • 1:56:07pm

Latest conspiracy

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Old Liberal  May 23, 2019 • 1:56:15pm

re: #46 jaunte

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When they say it is too expensive to mitigate climate change, this shit better be on the other side of the ledger. This is only the beginning of the shitstorm we are unleashing

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 23, 2019 • 1:56:40pm

re: #8 Decatur Deb

Seems there is a public personality named Hayden Panetierre. She is in the electronic headlines again for boyfriend problems.

It might be an artifact of eye surgeries, but I can never see the mentions without reading her as “Hayden Planetarium”.

The cheerleader in the TV series Heroes

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 1:58:41pm

re: #42 makeitstop

re: #55 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Not on my radar—thought she might be a fallen-away C/W singer.

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Belafon  May 23, 2019 • 1:59:02pm

re: #52 jaunte

I kind of lean though in the direction of him getting in trouble. If a reporter helped someone plan a bank robbery so that they could have a story, I would be in favor of the reporter getting in trouble.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 23, 2019 • 1:59:02pm

re: #20 goddamnedfrank

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2019 • 1:59:15pm

re: #56 Decatur Deb

Not on my radar—thought she might be a fallen-away C/W singer.

Close! She also had a role on the TV show Nashville.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 23, 2019 • 1:59:42pm

re: #56 Decatur Deb

Not on my radar—thought she might be a fallen-away C/W singer.

She played a CW singer on her next series, Nashville

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 2:00:09pm

re: #59 Eclectic Cyborg

re: #60 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Ah.

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jaunte  May 23, 2019 • 2:00:39pm

Advancing stability.

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Old Liberal  May 23, 2019 • 2:02:03pm

re: #58 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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Does anyone know her official position?? Isn’t she a consultant? Not on staff? Why would anyone talk to her about anything if she holds no staff position?

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William Lewis  May 23, 2019 • 2:02:18pm

re: #28 sagehen

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Video

Yes. Exactly. I think I may have seen that one to put it into words for me, though I have believed that basic idea for as long as I have been Christian. It is, ultimately, what he was telling us: live by the golden rule and give mercy since it is what you would hope to receive. If you know your Dr Who lore, you will understand this image…

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jaunte  May 23, 2019 • 2:03:35pm

re: #63 Old Liberal

“Thumb of the Trump”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 23, 2019 • 2:04:49pm

re: #64 William Lewis

Yes. Exactly. I think I may have seen that one to put it into words for me, though I have believed that basic idea for as long as I have been Christian. It is, ultimately, what he was telling us: live by the golden rule and give mercy since it is what you would hope to receive. If you know your Dr Who lore, you will understand this image…

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Possibly one of the most powerful images to come out of that fandom.

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 2:05:18pm

re: #65 jaunte

“Thumb of the Trump”

“Master of Whimpers”.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2019 • 2:05:56pm

re: #63 Old Liberal

Does anyone know her official position?? Isn’t she a consultant? Not on staff? Why would anyone talk to her about anything if she holds no staff position?

Most likely she is probably classified as either an Adviser to the President or Executive Assistant to the President or Administrative Assistant to the President. Some bullshit title like that.

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DangerMan  May 23, 2019 • 2:07:29pm

re: #58 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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“do you know who i am?”

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William Lewis  May 23, 2019 • 2:07:55pm

re: #66 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Possibly one of the most powerful images to come out of that fandom.

I am not surprised that you “get it”.

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Old Liberal  May 23, 2019 • 2:07:59pm

re: #68 Eclectic Cyborg

Most likely she is probably classified as either an Adviser to the President or Executive Assistant to the President or Administrative Assistant to the President. Some bullshit title like that.

I thought she wasn’t on staff. Maybe I’m wrong

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 23, 2019 • 2:08:31pm

Kellyanne Conway’s version: she asked Pelosi if she would like to offer “a direct response to the president.”

“I don’t talk to staff,” Pelosi responded. “I talk directly to the president.

“Really great,” Conway replied. “That’s really pro-woman of you.”

And Conway goes on camera to describe Nancy as being arrogant and dismissive.

A slightly different wording to the quote:

Pelosi’s chief of staff Drew Hammill offered a slightly different version of events, telling CNBC that Pelosi actually told Conway, “I’m responding to the president, not staff.

The first wording makes her sound snooty and superior, the second version is simply the response of someone who is not going to waste her time with underlings after their boss stomps off in a huff.

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DangerMan  May 23, 2019 • 2:08:40pm

re: #63 Old Liberal

Does anyone know her official position?? Isn’t she a consultant? Not on staff? Why would anyone talk to her about anything if she holds no staff position?

its like they all lost the pamphlet with the rules of the game

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 23, 2019 • 2:11:54pm
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jaunte  May 23, 2019 • 2:11:57pm
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jaunte  May 23, 2019 • 2:12:28pm

re: #74 I Would Prefer Not To

It was thaaaaat close!

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jaunte  May 23, 2019 • 2:13:06pm
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jaunte  May 23, 2019 • 2:16:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 2:17:59pm
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jaunte  May 23, 2019 • 2:19:13pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

If you don’t take the hat off indoors, it’s a costume.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 23, 2019 • 2:19:54pm

re: #80 jaunte

If you don’t take the hat off indoors, it’s a costume.

a clown suit, to be more exact…

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EPR-radar  May 23, 2019 • 2:21:02pm

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

a clown suit, to be more exact…

I suppose the white hood and robes that a MAGA hat is short for count as a clown suit.

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wrenchwench  May 23, 2019 • 2:21:33pm

re: #80 jaunte

If you don’t take the hat off indoors, it’s a costume.

Does that increase the pay under the Screen Actors Guild for all those campaign rally ‘attendees’?

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jaunte  May 23, 2019 • 2:22:29pm

re: #83 wrenchwench

I think they work under Renfair rules: no hat, no job.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 23, 2019 • 2:24:16pm

re: #84 jaunte

I think they work under Renfair rules: no hat, no job.

And he wore a hat
And he had a job
And he brought home the bacon
So that no one knew
Mongoloid he was a mongoloid

DEVO- mongoloid

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DangerMan  May 23, 2019 • 2:26:30pm

the full buttegieg exchange:

Buttigieg: “I have a pretty dim view of (Trump) faking a (bone spurs) disability to avoid serving (in Vietnam)”

moderator: “You think he faked a disability?”

Buttigieg: “Do you believe he has a disability?”

Buttigieg signals he doesn’t believe it, or “at least not that one”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 23, 2019 • 2:28:03pm

re: #86 DangerMan

the full buttegieg exchange:

Yea, the “bone spurs” were fake.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 23, 2019 • 2:31:36pm

re: #87 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Yea, the “bone spurs” were fake.

Yeah, but he was a Veteran of his own personal Vietnam

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Mescalero  May 23, 2019 • 2:38:03pm

Just a fan. A hack. Love these two.
Small pleasures.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 23, 2019 • 2:39:14pm

re: #48 Belafon

I can’t see what Trump is proposing, but wasn’t the original thing about Assange was that he helped whoever it was (Snowden or Manning, I don’t remember which) actually acquire the classified information?

Chelsea I believe.

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sagehen  May 23, 2019 • 2:41:18pm

re: #57 Belafon

I kind of lean though in the direction of him getting in trouble. If a reporter helped someone plan a bank robbery so that they could have a story, I would be in favor of the reporter getting in trouble.

In the Pentagon Papers case, NYT and WaPo had a valid 1st Amendment defense that kept them out of trouble.

Daniel Ellsberg did not.

The NYT and WaPo had nothing to do with stealing the stuff they published; it was just dropped in their laps.

Ellsberg would have gone to prison for life, except that some seriously over-the-top prosecutorial misconduct invalidated the whole thing. (they broke into his psychiatrist’s office and stole his medical records).

If the prosecutors had stuck to legitimate, established rules of evidence, they could have put him away for life. Which is a risk he understood, and willingly accepted, when he stole the documents.

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William Lewis  May 23, 2019 • 2:43:06pm

re: #91 sagehen

In the Pentagon Papers case, NYT and WaPo had a valid 1st Amendment defense that kept them out of trouble.

Daniel Ellsberg did not.

The NYT and WaPo had nothing to do with stealing the stuff they published; it was just dropped in their laps.

Ellsberg would have gone to prison for life, except that some seriously over-the-top prosecutorial misconduct invalided the whole thing. (they broke into his psychiatrist’s office and stole his medical records).

We tend to forget his insane courage now.
If the prosecutors had stuck to legitimate, established rules of evidence, they could have put him away for life. Which is a risk he understood, and willingly accepted, when he stole the documents.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2019 • 2:43:13pm

re: #91 sagehen

In the Pentagon Papers case, NYT and WaPo had a valid 1st Amendment defense that kept them out of trouble.

Daniel Ellsberg did not.

The NYT and WaPo had nothing to do with stealing the stuff they published; it was just dropped in their laps.

Ellsberg would have gone to prison for life, except that some seriously over-the-top prosecutorial misconduct invalided the whole thing. (they broke into his psychiatrist’s office and stole his medical records).

If the prosecutors had stuck to legitimate, established rules of evidence, they could have put him away for life. Which is a risk he understood, and willingly accepted, when he stole the documents
.

THIS.

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2019 • 2:43:43pm
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Targetpractice  May 23, 2019 • 2:44:35pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

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Can we dance if we want to?

//

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 23, 2019 • 2:47:31pm

re: #78 jaunte

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Crapo and Risch. Why am I not surprised.

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William Lewis  May 23, 2019 • 2:51:06pm

re: #92 William Lewis

that was supposed to say something important. It didn’t.

Oops.

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KGxvi  May 23, 2019 • 2:55:49pm

re: #20 goddamnedfrank

If Pelosi were some random back bencher, sure, having staff talk to them is probably fine. But Pelosi is the cotdam Speaker of the Motherfucking House of Representatives. She holds ONE OF FIVE offices actually identified in the Constitution (President, Vice-President, Chief Justice, Speaker of the House, and President Pro Tem of the Senate*). You don’t hand off discussions with any of those office holders to staff.

*Personally, I think the President Pro Tem of the Senate should be the Senate Majority Leader rather than the most senior member of the majority; but whatever.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 23, 2019 • 2:59:38pm

re: #62 jaunte

Advancing stupabilidity.

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TedStriker  May 23, 2019 • 3:02:04pm
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KGxvi  May 23, 2019 • 3:02:39pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

i am just asking i do not know white house protocol i just know grandmother protocol which would not allow for hats in the house

The White House probably isn’t a place to wear a hat indoors, but I’m pretty liberal on wearing a hat indoor anymore. It’s basically a question of “how formal is the location?”

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jaunte  May 23, 2019 • 3:07:41pm

“…The exchange shows that the Republican leadership in the House privately discussed Russia’s involvement in the 2016 election and Trump’s relationship to Putin, but wanted to keep their concerns secret.”

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plansbandc  May 23, 2019 • 3:09:37pm

Scooby dooby Doo, where are you?

Oh!

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DangerMan  May 23, 2019 • 3:13:33pm

re: #103 plansbandc

Scooby dooby Doo, where are you?

Oh!

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that made my day

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 3:17:33pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2019 • 3:20:57pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

“For Canada and others, the unknown is whether this personal anger will or won’t prevent the White House and House from working together to get the agreement passed. Trump’s officials often engage in normal and cordial negotiations with people the president is publicly blasting.

And apparently no one in the Republican party thinks this is a fucking problem.

SMDH.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 23, 2019 • 3:21:54pm

I have no sympathy for Assange. As far as I’m concerned he’s getting what he deserved. And he has NOBODY BUT HIMSELF to blame for the situation he is now in!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 23, 2019 • 3:26:55pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

what a fucking embarrassment

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Who are those ill-mannered dolts with their hats on in the background?

“Gentlemen will remove their hats, please. Inbred yokels may leave theirs on.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 3:37:06pm
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gocart mozart  May 23, 2019 • 3:40:42pm
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gocart mozart  May 23, 2019 • 3:42:02pm
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gocart mozart  May 23, 2019 • 3:42:32pm
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BlueGrl21  May 23, 2019 • 3:46:47pm

re: #72 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Kellyanne Conway’s version: she asked Pelosi if she would like to offer “a direct response to the president.”

“I don’t talk to staff,” Pelosi responded. “I talk directly to the president.

“Really great,” Conway replied. “That’s really pro-woman of you.”

Women in power need to own their power. Too many women in power think they have to be nicer as women to make people comfortable and avoid the bitch stigma. Kellyanne apparently falls into that camp.

She is not the Speaker’s equal by virtue of them both being women. A serving wench is not a queen.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2019 • 3:51:21pm

re: #111 gocart mozart

Okay, help me out here. Who is Spartacus supposed to be?

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 23, 2019 • 3:52:10pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 23, 2019 • 3:52:30pm

re: #78 jaunte

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??? Why did Romney vote against the bill? Sometimes I think he flips a coin to determine his position on an issue.

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 3:53:11pm

re: #114 Eclectic Cyborg

Okay, help me out here. Who is Spartacus supposed to be?

I am Spartacus.

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Targetpractice  May 23, 2019 • 3:54:11pm

re: #117 Decatur Deb

I am Spartacus.

No, I am Spartacus.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 23, 2019 • 3:55:58pm

re: #117 Decatur Deb

re: #118 Targetpractice

Spartacus is a Bot.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 23, 2019 • 3:56:08pm

re: #111 gocart mozart

Steve M.
@nomoremister
Are there any right-wing political cartoons that aren’t jaw-droppingly awful?

Puzzled… given Trump’s allegiance to Russia and the support from most of the Senate GOP, why the objection to Communism???

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 23, 2019 • 3:57:18pm

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

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How much nose candy did Larry snort before kissing up to Trump?

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 23, 2019 • 3:58:44pm

re: #120 Hecuba’s daughter

Puzzled… given Trump’s allegiance to Russia and the support from most of the Senate GOP, why the objection to Communism???

You have to remember the fig leaf that Russia is not a communist state and also ignore that Putin used to be KGB.

(I need to look into the cost of a bumper sticker that says “Putin Puppet 2020 - Make Russia Greater Still”, with a appropriate illustration and a Russian flag backdrop.)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 23, 2019 • 4:00:34pm

re: #112 gocart mozart

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Why do the British get a pass on Agent Orange? They invented it and deployed it extensively in Malaya years before Vietnam. The British precedent, and the deafening lack of protest that greeted it, helped convince JFK that herbicide spraying was a legal tactic of war.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 23, 2019 • 4:03:47pm

There is some evidence that 2-4-5T based defoliants (the term “agent orange” was coined years later) were used against the Mau Mau in Kenya in the early 50s. It was certainly sprayed there, the only question is one of intent.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 23, 2019 • 4:04:05pm

re: #122 Feline Fearless Leader

You have to remember the fig leaf that Russia is not a communist state and also ignore that Putin used to be KGB.

(I need to look into the cost of a bumper sticker that says “Putin Puppet 2020 - Make Russia Greater Still”, with a appropriate illustration and a Russian flag backdrop.)

Use the LGF bumper sticker generator to at a minimum design it.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 4:04:50pm

re: #123 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Why do the British get a pass on Agent Orange? They invented it and deployed it extensively in Malaya years before Vietnam. The British precedent, and the deafening lack of protest that greeted it, helped convince JFK that herbicide spraying was a legal tactic of war.

The real persistent horror of Agent Orange is that it wasn’t Agent Orange. Dow (IIRC) contaminated it with dioxin in the manufacturing process.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 23, 2019 • 4:06:36pm

re: #125 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Use the LGF bumper sticker generator to at a minimum design it.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2019 • 4:08:13pm

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gocart mozart  May 23, 2019 • 4:19:28pm

re: #117 Decatur Deb

Cory Booker. It’s a deep cut from the Kavenaugh hearing

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 23, 2019 • 4:21:08pm

And if you want to print your own.

Bumper Stickers Blank White Vinyl Paper

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gocart mozart  May 23, 2019 • 4:21:38pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 4:24:31pm
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gocart mozart  May 23, 2019 • 4:25:00pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 23, 2019 • 4:32:53pm

Btw, my father DIED of a cancer that was officially acknowledged to have been caused by herbicide exposure (Agents Green and Purple, Orange was introduced in 1965). He was in Vietnam in 1963-64, when there few US troops (ca. 15,000) there but Operation Ranch Hand was already going full blast.

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gocart mozart  May 23, 2019 • 4:33:42pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 4:35:44pm

If only there was a WALL that might have stopped the fire from spreading ! ! !

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 23, 2019 • 4:40:06pm

re: #125 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Use the LGF bumper sticker generator to at a minimum design it.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Hey Charles! Just a suggestion here. Can we get the generator to allow two lines?

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Belafon  May 23, 2019 • 4:48:30pm

re: #114 Eclectic Cyborg

Okay, help me out here. Who is Spartacus supposed to be?

I’m pretty sure it’s meant to be Booker. I’m trying to think of a way to say why.

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Belafon  May 23, 2019 • 4:52:35pm
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The Vicious Babushka  May 23, 2019 • 4:56:21pm

The power went out at around 2:00 and just came back on!

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Jay C  May 23, 2019 • 4:56:21pm

re: #138 Belafon

I’m pretty sure it’s meant to be Booker. I’m trying to think of a way to say why.

I think it was some mocking RW meme from something Booker said in some Senate hearing (?last year?) Something about calling BS on releasing some testimony or something (?? how quickly we forget…..)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 23, 2019 • 4:58:01pm

This looks really bad for no fatalities.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 5:01:03pm
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The Vicious Babushka  May 23, 2019 • 5:02:03pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If that gets to the governor’s desk she will set it on fire.

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mmmirele  May 23, 2019 • 5:05:37pm

The Japan trip is winding down. The last two days were spent hitting the tourist traps of Kyoto. Those would be Kinkaku-ji, Ryoan-ji, Arashayama, the Bamboo Forest and Fushimi Inari. Holy crap. Kinkaku-ji and Fushimi Inari were like the Tokyo subway during rush hour, and the other places were less crowded mainly because they weren’t crawling with junior high school students.

Today I have a shopping trip scheduled and if my feet hold out, a trip to the Kyoto Museum of Modern Art to view famous pottery.

The short fingered vulgarian is also coming here and I am fucking mortified. He is being taken to the last day of the May basho on Sunday. A basho is a 15 day series of sumo matches held every other month. It’s causing a massive security headache. They’re going to seat him near the dohyo (ring) in a chair, instead of sitting on zabutons like everyone else who pays the approx. $88 x 4 for box seats. They’re also talking about banning beer cans. Holy crap. People bring in big bags of beer and food to the Kokugikan, carrying bags emblazoned with the name of the beer company.

The other thing about sitting him near the dohyo is that rikishi get thrown out of the ring with amazing frequency. I would love to see the Secret Service go after a 400 pound rikishi who might land near Trump, but I will be either boarding a plane or taking off from KIX during that time period.

But THIS has me worried, wondering what kind of cheap-ass trash Trump is goingvto cone up with:

Trump has said he is having a trophy made for the sumo winner, which Japanese media have already informally dubbed the “Trump Cup.”

japantoday.com

Why can’t he sit in the emperor’s box like a normal dignitary?

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Pawn of the Oppressor  May 23, 2019 • 5:06:45pm

re: #142 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This looks really bad for no fatalities.

[Embedded content]

O_O

I rode a little two-stroke Suzuki around the hangars at that airport, one Thanksgiving a few years ago… Ex-girlfriend’s family lives in the next neighborhood over. I had to double-take to be sure that wasn’t their backyard.

You can’t throw a rock without hitting a McHouse in that area but it’s not challenging terrain. I wonder what the pilot’s mistake was.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 5:26:08pm

he is insane

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gocart mozart  May 23, 2019 • 5:27:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 5:35:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 5:38:33pm
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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 5:44:23pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If he wrecks the intelligence agencies (cumbersome as they might be) the US will be flying blind in a very hostile neighborhood. Don’t think Yoda and Luke could pull us out of this one.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 23, 2019 • 5:46:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 5:46:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 5:47:48pm
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Danack  May 23, 2019 • 5:48:59pm

This seems ‘ungood’.

They say managers at the FAA pressure inspectors like them to ignore critical safety issues like corrosion or making sure vendors were FAA compliant and retaliated if inspectors refused to back off.

“I’ve been flat out told to back off,” one inspector said. “I’ve had airlines contact my management and ask them not to assign me any inspections to that airline.”

The other inspector said they’ve “repeatedly” been punished for finding a problem and reporting it and they’re not alone: “It’s very widespread.”

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Dave In Austin  May 23, 2019 • 5:50:39pm

Up is fucking Down anymore

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 5:52:12pm

re: #152 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Seriously looking at my bug-out plan. If you are one of the LGBTQ community, I suggest you do so as well. If you don;t have one, develop one. NOW!

Pack warm, because it’s Canada, Scandinavia, or nowhere. Better to solve the problem in 2020.

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Dave In Austin  May 23, 2019 • 5:54:37pm

What does this mean exactly? I’m hearing he wants Barr to go after the press?
Is that it?

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 5:55:31pm

re: #158 Dave In Austin

What does this mean exactly? I’m hearing he wants Barr to go after the press?
Is that it?

He named four “traitors” today in LE/Intelligence.

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prairiefire  May 23, 2019 • 5:57:39pm

Things are fine here in KC, to the south in Missouri, big bad tornadoes, again.

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2019 • 5:57:55pm
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The Vicious Babushka  May 23, 2019 • 5:58:37pm

re: #161 Charles Johnson

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The Vicious Babushka  May 23, 2019 • 6:00:13pm
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Belafon  May 23, 2019 • 6:03:02pm

re: #161 Charles Johnson

The Right is passing around a video of Pelosi, running at about 75% speed, attempting to show that she’s a drunkard: washingtonpost.com.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 6:04:48pm

story thread time!
start here:

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 6:05:17pm

re: #164 Belafon

The Right is passing around a video of Pelosi, running at about 75% speed, attempting to show that she’s a drunkard: washingtonpost.com.

In the new world of ratfucking, that seems almost quaint.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 23, 2019 • 6:07:37pm

re: #157 Decatur Deb

Pack warm, because it’s Canada, Scandinavia, or nowhere. Better to solve the problem in 2020.

Do you honestly think we (I) have that long? I hope we (I) do, but I am also preparing for the worse. Better safe than sorry.

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2019 • 6:08:15pm

re: #164 Belafon

The Right is passing around a video of Pelosi, running at about 75% speed, attempting to show that she’s a drunkard: washingtonpost.com.

Right - it’s very likely Trump saw one of these videos, since he has a bunch of total scumbags around him who will make sure he does. And the videos are tailor made to exploit his narcissistic disorders.

I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that these videos originated in a certain other country.

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Dave In Austin  May 23, 2019 • 6:09:04pm

Let’s see who else gets dumped

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 6:11:20pm

re: #167 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Do you honestly think we (I) have that long? I hope we (I) do, but I am also preparing for the worse. Better safe than sorry.

Nothing wrong with a bit of prep. I always carried a bail-out bag on TDY, enough to let me walk out of whatever country Uncle sent me to. Don’t forget maps and little dictionaries. (Langenscheidts packed best.)

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2019 • 6:11:22pm
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teleskiguy  May 23, 2019 • 6:13:06pm

FOR FUCK’S SAKE GODDAMNIT WHAT THE FUCK HUH, I MEAN, WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK!??!?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 6:13:31pm

meanwhile in Cincinnati:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 6:15:46pm
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The Vicious Babushka  May 23, 2019 • 6:17:05pm

re: #168 Charles Johnson

Right - it’s very likely Trump saw one of these videos, since he has a bunch of total scumbags around him who will make sure he does. And the videos are tailor made to exploit his narcissistic disorders.

I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that these videos originated in a certain other country.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 6:17:16pm

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Vicious Babushka  May 23, 2019 • 6:18:36pm
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The Vicious Babushka  May 23, 2019 • 6:19:46pm

Yep. We were just talking about it and it happened.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 23, 2019 • 6:20:07pm

re: #170 Decatur Deb

Nothing wrong with a bit of prep. I always carried a bail-out bag on TDY, enough to let me walk out of whatever country Uncle sent me to. Don’t forget maps and little dictionaries. (Langenscheidts packed best.)

Rand-Mc-Nally plus USGS topos. Dictionaries will not be needed. Yeah, I will have to spend some time on major roads for times sake. On the other hand, I can bypass others.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 6:20:10pm

re: #169 Dave In Austin

Operating fake accounts apparently
foxnews.com

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DangerMan  May 23, 2019 • 6:20:37pm

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The Vicious Babushka  May 23, 2019 • 6:20:57pm

re: #180 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Operating fake accounts apparently
foxnews.com

Also grifting up a storm.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 6:21:03pm
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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 6:25:28pm

re: #179 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Rand-Mc-Nally plus USGS topos. Dictionaries will not be needed. Yeah, I will have to spend some time on major roads for times sake. On the other hand, I can bypass others.

Joking aside, any coming shitstorm won’t be really sudden. The paperwork takes too long, and these doofi seemed compelled to blurt out their intent.

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plansbandc  May 23, 2019 • 6:25:54pm

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

Roadrunners are pretty much my favorite thing. LOVE this thread. <3

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Belafon  May 23, 2019 • 6:25:57pm

Here’s how I hope Pelosi responds: “If they have to slow me down so the president can understand me, that’s OK.”

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 23, 2019 • 6:28:18pm

re: #178 The Vicious Babushka

Yep. We were just talking about it and it happened.

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So we get to point our fingers and hoot at anyone who spreads it, as too dim for words. (“The devil, that proud spirit, cannot endure to be mocked.”)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 6:29:54pm

JFC, moron just retweeted this from junior…they are all nuts

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rhuarc  May 23, 2019 • 6:30:09pm

re: #169 Dave In Austin

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2019 • 6:32:10pm

Rudy deleted the tweet with the doctored video.

I guess that one was different from the one Fuckface Von Clownstick posted on his Twitter. That’s just edited video of her stumbling over her words, something everybody does I don’t care how good a speaker you are. You can get 60 minutes of Christopher Hitchens waxing eloquently and edit that video to make him sound like a stammering fool. Slowing realtime video of Pelosi down to make her sound drunk, I think that’s a tad more egregious, though both tactics are fucked up.

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garzooma  May 23, 2019 • 6:34:48pm

re: #122 Feline Fearless Leader

You have to remember the fig leaf that Russia is not a communist state and also ignore that Putin used to be KGB.

and still has his party card.

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 6:36:53pm

re: #187 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

So we get to point our fingers and hoot at anyone who spreads it, as too dim for words. (“The devil, that proud spirit, cannot endure to be mocked.”)

Targeting Pelosi is the pastime of fools. She will not leave office until she chooses, no matter what chaff they throw. At the same time, amateurish fakery will keep driving their numbers down.

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2019 • 6:38:17pm

You can speed up or slow down any YouTube video by a factor of two. Just click on the little gear in the lower right of the video.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 6:38:59pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 23, 2019 • 6:39:25pm

re: #184 Decatur Deb

Joking aside, any coming shitstorm won’t be really sudden. The paperwork takes too long, and these doofi seemed compelled to blurt out their intent.

To a degree, that’s what I am counting on. Local politics on the other hand, may force my hand.

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Belafon  May 23, 2019 • 6:42:54pm

Downstairs, my wife is watching “Little People, Big World.” Upstairs, my sons are watching Ru Paul.

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2019 • 6:43:44pm

Wow.

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Belafon  May 23, 2019 • 6:44:45pm
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teleskiguy  May 23, 2019 • 6:45:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 6:46:00pm
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Belafon  May 23, 2019 • 6:46:33pm

re: #199 teleskiguy

Yeah, imagine what your ratings would be if the economy sucked right now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 6:47:05pm
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gocart mozart  May 23, 2019 • 6:50:06pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 6:50:30pm

re: #183 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 6:52:08pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 6:53:09pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

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Ace Rothstein  May 23, 2019 • 6:54:24pm

re: #177 The Vicious Babushka

Yes.

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Ace Rothstein  May 23, 2019 • 6:55:50pm

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

Detangment?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 6:55:52pm

The official White House twitter account retweeted Trump sharing the doctored video

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Ace Rothstein  May 23, 2019 • 6:58:23pm

And now the Pelosi video will be treated as gospel, just like the Hillary Clinton “fatigue” and “fainting” videos from the 2016 campaign.

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Skip Intro  May 23, 2019 • 6:59:12pm

re: #167 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Do you honestly think we (I) have that long? I hope we (I) do, but I am also preparing for the worse. Better safe than sorry.

Only fools do. Do what’s best for you NOW.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 7:01:29pm
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Skip Intro  May 23, 2019 • 7:04:07pm

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC, moron just retweeted this from junior…they are all nuts

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They are all EVIL. They will get people killed and they will celebrate it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 7:04:52pm

we are already used to spectacles…

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 7:05:13pm

re: #210 Ace Rothstein

And now the Pelosi video will be treated as gospel, just like the Hillary Clinton “fatigue” and “fainting” videos from the 2016 campaign.

It’s just a stupid noob ploy. Any seasoned pol knows enough to keep his hands clean of the crap and let the whispering campaigns work in the dark.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 7:06:35pm
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teleskiguy  May 23, 2019 • 7:13:50pm

Fuck. This. Noise.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 23, 2019 • 7:15:10pm

re: #211 Skip Intro

Only fools do. Do what’s best for you NOW.

Plan on it.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 23, 2019 • 7:15:29pm

re: #217 teleskiguy

Explain, please.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2019 • 7:15:30pm
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Belafon  May 23, 2019 • 7:15:50pm
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teleskiguy  May 23, 2019 • 7:17:32pm

re: #219 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Explain, please.

That’s right below the Hillary Step right below the summit of Mount Everest, a couple of days ago. That’s not mountaineering. That’s mountain tourism. What’s next, top rope on El Cap?

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gocart mozart  May 23, 2019 • 7:18:00pm

I was posted and deleted the comment “The president of the United States is a fucking child”. My last comment to the orange choad was “The presdient is a Tyrant” and a few minutes later my account was permenently suspended.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 23, 2019 • 7:20:28pm

re: #222 teleskiguy

That’s right below the Hillary Step right below the summit of Mount Everest, a couple of days ago. That’s not mountaineering. That’s mountain tourism. What’s next, top rope on El Cap?

Thanks. I was wondering if it was something along those lines. Kinda lost all meaning. And definitely proof that we are really dumb hairless-apes who shoulda stayed in the trees.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 23, 2019 • 7:20:37pm

Please, Please ,Please. I have stayed up way beyond my bedtime for this launch. @spaceX don’t fuck it up. Again

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2019 • 7:23:00pm

OK, looks like that Everest picture was taken yesterday. Someone in that line died yesterday, an American.

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Skip Intro  May 23, 2019 • 7:23:07pm

re: #218 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Good.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 7:25:55pm
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plansbandc  May 23, 2019 • 7:26:13pm

re: #211 Skip Intro

You are right.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 7:26:17pm

T-minus 4 minute

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 23, 2019 • 7:27:19pm

Blast from the past. The North Texas Skeptic, May 1999

POST-RATIONAL
The PQ Test
by Jimmy Reynolds

Are you a conspiracy buff? Find out with our exclusive, self scoring PQ (Paranoia Quotient) test.

Directions: It’s simple. Each of the ten questions has four possible answers. Select the answer that you think is closest to the truth, then see the scoring guide at the end of the test. This is not a scientific test. Scientists don’t know everything anyway.

1. What is the government really hiding at Area 51?

A. Secret new aircraft and related technology
B. An illegal toxic waste dump.
C. UFOs and captured aliens.
D. The Russian submarine from Hunt for Red October.

2. Who really operates the mysterious black helicopters?

A. The U.S. Army. Dark green paint looks black against a bright sky, especially to sleepy-eyed Art Bell fans.
B. Some rich guys playing a practical joke with their corporate JetRanger.
C. The sinister Shadow Government’s secret force of UN monitors.
D. ‘I seen one of ‘em out between Idalou and Post.What would a helicopter be doin’ way out there? They gottabe UFOs in disguise.’

3. Who really killed JFK?
A. Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone.
B. A small gang of conspirators
C. An international conspiracy involving the CIA, FBI, the Pentagon, the media, the Mafia, [16,235 words deleted], space aliens, Atlantis survivors and the Plainview Flat Earth Society.
D. Nobody. He’s alive and well and living across from Elvis at Area 51.

4. Why do mainstream scientists reject Creationism?
A. It’s a convoluted pseudo-science with no real scientific merit.
B. They think it’s a crude attempt to sneak religion into the classroom
C. It threatens their prestige and job security interest.
D. They’ve been brainwashed by local witch covens and devil-cults.

5. Why did Art Bell announce his sudden retirement last fall?
A. It was probably a publicity stunt.
B. He had a sudden attack of conscience and rationality.
C. Skeptics kept writing him nasty letters.
D. The real Men In Black paid him a visit.

6. Why did Bell un-retire just as suddenly?
A. The wave of free publicity had exhausted itself.
B. Revenue projections cured him of conscience and rationality.
C. Psychics promised to protect him from Men In Black and hostile skeptics.
D. He is a man of vision and courage who will accept any risk to put the Truth before the American people.

7. Who really runs the United States?
A. Our elected leaders and a horde of civil-service bureaucrats.
B. Big Business and the Media.
C. Evil secret societies who manipulate history from behind the scenes.
D. The aliens at Area 51, with the help of highly paid agents who masquerade as skeptics and scoffers. [the checks are in the mail-JR]

8. Why can’t a new Suburban get 150 miles per gallon?
A. There isn’t that much chemical energy in a gallon of gasoline.
B. The technology would cost more than anyone is willing to pay.
C. The car companies aren’t as smart as the guys who advertise in the back of mechanic’s magazines.
D. Oil companies and car makers have suppressed the magic carburetor that would make it possible.

9. Why has SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) so far failed to locate alien intelligence.
A. The universe is very large and SETI lacks adequate funds for a faster search.
B. There may not be any aliens close enough to contact.
C. They HAVE succeeded and the government is covering it up.
D. The whole thing is a put-on. Aliens actually run SETI.

10. Why do UFO advocates place such great emphasis on cover-ups and conspiracies?
A. They have to account for the lack of hard evidence.
B. The movement attracts people who are pre-disposed to believe in ‘hidden truths’.
C. Excessive secrecy fuels suspicion and speculation.
D. There’s obviously a cover-up. The proof had to go somewhere.

11. What incentive do the world’s governments and scientists have to cover up the reality of alien visitations?
A. It doesn’t matter. It’s impossible that every government and almost every reputable astronomer in the world would go along with it for fifty seconds, let alone fifty years.
B. None. The military and most scientists would love for alien invaders/visitors to show up.
C. The worldwide shadow government knows that people would panic if they knew the Truth.
D. The economy would collapse if Earthlings knew about alien stuff like immortality pills, free energy, and big houses for everyone.

Scoring Guide: Give yourself 1 point for each ‘A’ answer, 2 for each ‘B’, 3 for a ‘C’, and 4 for a ‘D’.

Find your PQ below:

10-15 points: You’re a skeptic, but you may find that hard to believe.

16-29 points: You can be a consumer-unit in the new age of unstructured knowledge. You won’t be alone; there’s one born every minute.

30-40 points: Sell your guns and seek professional help.

Jimmy Reynolds is a science teacher, a licensed aviation mechanic and the father of two grown children. He is a native Texan and lives in Lubbock

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 7:27:51pm

Deepfake video is going to get worse:

Mona Lisa frown: Machine learning brings old paintings and photos to life

techcrunch.com

Note the Mona Lisa chatting is a S.Korea/Russia collaboration.

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Belafon  May 23, 2019 • 7:30:25pm

re: #232 Decatur Deb

Deepfake video is going to get worse:

Mona Lisa frown: Machine learning brings old paintings and photos to life

techcrunch.com

Note the Mona Lisa chatting is a S.Korea/Russia collaboration.

I was thinking about fake videos and realized that someone should start a company now that certifies that a video was made by the people claiming to make it. So, a campaign video or a news video could get a certification by the company.

234
Joe Bacon 🌹  May 23, 2019 • 7:31:10pm

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Trump and Barr are going all in on indicting Bill and Hillary Clinton.

235
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 7:31:28pm

Max Q
Vroom, no boom

236
Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 7:32:59pm

re: #233 Belafon

I was thinking about fake videos and realized that someone should start a company now that certifies that a video was made by the people claiming to make it. So, a campaign video or a news video could get a certification by the company.

Fine, as long as THEY don’t get to make the validation.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 7:34:15pm

SpaceX giving us great video again

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Belafon  May 23, 2019 • 7:34:24pm

re: #236 Decatur Deb

Fine, as long as THEY don’t get to make the validation.

One of the things that would need to be done would be a way to look up the certification.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 7:34:55pm
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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 7:36:38pm

re: #233 Belafon

236 was a cheap joke. I’d be looking for a technical solution involving a unique code embedded in video production/distribution tools to fingerprint the lineage of an image.

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retired cynic  May 23, 2019 • 7:36:52pm

Well. Don’t know whether to be happy excited or panicked, but I just signed the papers to get a new computer: top of the line iMac. Not cheap. I work with one all day every day, and my 2011 baby has just had too many miles.

So scared of the expense. But excited to have one with everything working, and not to have to worry about sudden death. Had one do that years ago, and do NOT NOT NOT ever want to have that happen again.

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Chrysicat  May 23, 2019 • 7:37:32pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 7:39:37pm

First stage on the boat

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 7:40:42pm

OK, about 35 minutes until they deploy the 60 satellites

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 7:41:51pm

re: #222 teleskiguy

That’s right below the Hillary Step right below the summit of Mount Everest, a couple of days ago. That’s not mountaineering. That’s mountain tourism. What’s next, top rope on El Cap?

Looks like the line for the johns at a Steelers game.

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2019 • 7:47:08pm

re: #245 Decatur Deb

Looks like the line for the johns at a Steelers game.

Most of those people that are not sherpas probably wouldn’t stand in a queue at their local bakery, but they’ll stand in line at 28,000 feet! It’s a trophy hunt, and it looks more ridiculous every year.

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Belafon  May 23, 2019 • 7:47:22pm

re: #242 Chrysicat

Do you think that would shut Maddow up?

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gocart mozart  May 23, 2019 • 7:48:15pm

There’s a whole Blazzing Saddle of them

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Skip Intro  May 23, 2019 • 7:48:35pm

So Trump is taking his entire gawd awful family to England with him.

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gocart mozart  May 23, 2019 • 7:48:51pm
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Chrysicat  May 23, 2019 • 7:48:53pm

re: #247 Belafon

Do you think that would shut Maddow up?

No, I think she’ll wind up an actual martyr for truth if the precedent is set quickly enough that he can file on her before Election ‘20.

That’s…not really much of an improvement over being forced into her hole.

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 7:49:32pm

re: #246 teleskiguy

Most of those people that are not sherpas probably wouldn’t stand in a queue at their local bakery, but they’ll stand in line at 28,000 feet! It’s a trophy hunt, and it looks more ridiculous every year.

“If you’re not the lead husky mountaineer, the view never changes.”

253
Joe Bacon 🌹  May 23, 2019 • 7:49:54pm

re: #243 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

First stage on the boat

I’m always awestruck to see SpaceX pull that off!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 23, 2019 • 7:51:05pm

re: #245 Decatur Deb

Looks like the line for the johns at a Steelers game.

I don’t think there’s a porta potty at the summit…

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Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 7:51:50pm

re: #254 Joe Bacon 🌹

I don’t think there’s a porta potty at the summit…

Windsock, maybe.

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gocart mozart  May 23, 2019 • 7:52:03pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 23, 2019 • 7:53:45pm

I feel like starting a pool to guess which American politician is going to be the first to get milkshaked…

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2019 • 7:56:55pm

re: #257 Joe Bacon 🌹

I feel like starting a pool to guess which American politician is going to be the first to get milkshaked…

Ted Cruz.

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Skip Intro  May 23, 2019 • 7:58:00pm

re: #257 Joe Bacon 🌹

I feel like starting a pool to guess which American politician is going to be the first to get milkshaked…

None of them. We’re too chickenshit.

260
Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 7:58:37pm

re: #257 Joe Bacon 🌹

re: #258 Eclectic Cyborg

We don’t have the restraint to keep that from escalating to deadly levels.

261
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 23, 2019 • 8:03:51pm

re: #222 teleskiguy

That’s right below the Hillary Step right below the summit of Mount Everest, a couple of days ago. That’s not mountaineering. That’s mountain tourism. What’s next, top rope on El Cap?

Wasn’t always so:
First flight over Everest: Squadron Leader Douglas Douglas-Hamilton, Lord Clydesdale, flying Westland WP-3 G-ACAZ, approaching the summit of Mt. Everest, 3 April 1933.

30,000 feet in an open cockpit biplane was a great adventure in and of itself.

And every mountaineer knows this picture: Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay at the summit, May 29 1953.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2019 • 8:08:50pm

re: #260 Decatur Deb

We don’t have the restraint to keep that from escalating to deadly levels.

Good yet maddening point.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 23, 2019 • 8:10:00pm

Mile 1,839: Chicopee Falls, Mass.

Okay, when we left Nebraska we expected to leave the crap weather behind us.

Who ordered severe thunderstorms and tornado warnings for Penna., New York, and New Jersey, and severe thunderstorms here? Do they even have tornado sirens in Massachusetts?

We’ve arrived for the Memorial Day parade and remembrance.

264
Decatur Deb  May 23, 2019 • 8:13:09pm

re: #261 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

At least they credited the poor sods in the camera aircraft.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 23, 2019 • 8:14:24pm

re: #263 Anymouse 🌹

Mile 1,839: Chicopee Falls, Mass.

Okay, when we left Nebraska we expected to leave the crap weather behind us.

Who ordered severe thunderstorms and tornado warnings for Penna., New York, and New Jersey, and severe thunderstorms here? Do they even have tornado sirens in Massachusetts?

We’ve arrived for the Memorial Day parade and remembrance.

I was scared CENSORED when a tornado touched down a block away from our home in Ambridge PA. Worst thunderstorm we ever had there must have been dozens of lightning bolts going at the same time. the tornado then went thru the Ohio River and dissipated but when it was in the river we got the heaviest rains for a good 15 minutes…

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Anymouse 🌹  May 23, 2019 • 8:15:41pm

Remark for Philly Pretzel: They just issued a tornado warning for Philadelphia.

Remark for Teleskiguy.

You might recall the discussion we had over the toll road around Denver (E-470) with their photograph tolling.

They never sent us a bill.

When I last lived in Massachusetts in the early Nineties, they used tickets and toll booths on the Mass. Pike. Today I found they use the same EZ-Pass system or photographic tolling. There are no toll takers or cash booths anywhere on the Mass. Pike.

Considering Colorado apparently didn’t recognise my license plate, I wonder if Massachusetts will. (The toll is a lot higher on the Mass. Pike,)

That makes me think that because there are so many different license plates that photographic tolling can’t catch them all (they are not Pokémon), and states like Missouri are printing their state names so small you can’t see it if you stand next to the car, I wonder if the tolling for those with EZ-Passes isn’t actually higher to make up for those of us the toll road cannot bill.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 8:17:41pm

second stage 3 second burn completed
14 minutes until satellite(s) deployment

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Chrysicat  May 23, 2019 • 8:18:37pm

It’s like people have no idea why the ability to self-RT was added…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 8:18:40pm
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Mattand  May 23, 2019 • 8:19:22pm

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹

Remark for Philly Pretzel: They just issued a tornado warning for Philadelphia.

Really? I’m in that area and usually my watch and the phones go nuts with warnings. Checking now.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 8:20:59pm
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Anymouse 🌹  May 23, 2019 • 8:25:34pm

Hail is hitting our hotel window very hard. The storm is on.

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Mattand  May 23, 2019 • 8:27:31pm

re: #272 Anymouse 🌹

Hail is hitting our hotel window very hard. The storm is on.

Philly/South Jersey probably isn’t that far behind you. Just got the severe thunderstorm warning on my watch.

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Dave In Austin  May 23, 2019 • 8:40:48pm

re: #223 gocart mozart

This seems to be going around……


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