Thursday Night Sanity Break: Magos Herrera and Brooklyn Rider: NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert

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May 15, 2019 | Tom Huizenga — When the intrepid string quartet known as Brooklyn Rider first visited the Tiny Desk nine years ago, no one knew what the musicians might play. They’re as likely to trot out an Asian folk tune as they are a string quartet by Beethoven, or one of their own compositions.

For this visit though, we knew exactly what was on tap. The band, fronted by the smoky-voiced Magos Herrera and backed by percussionist Mathias Kunzli, performed three songs from the album Dreamers, a collection steeped in Latin American traditions.

The versatile Mexican singer, who has never sounded more expressive, notes that these songs emerge from struggle.

Gilberto Gil’s bossa nova-inspired “Eu vim da Bahia” is a tribute to his home state. He released it in 1965 as Brazil’s military dictatorship took charge. The atmospheric, flamenco-tinged “La Aurora de Nueva York,” by Vicente Amigo, sets a gritty depiction of the city by Federico García Lorca, who fell to assassins during the Spanish Civil War in 1936. And “Balderrama,” by the Argentine folk legend Gustavo Leguizamón, ruminates on a café which served as a safe haven for artists to talk about their work.

The music and the poetry, Herrera explained, “transcended dark times” for its authors. These fresh performances, imbued with both joy and pain, recall the past and point to the present.

SET LIST
Gilberto Gil: “Eu vim da Bahia”
Vicente Amigo (lyrics by Federico García Lorca): “La Aurora de Nueva York”
Gustavo Leguizamón: “Balderrama”

MUSICIANS
Magos Herrera: vocals; Mathias Kunzli: percussion

Brooklyn Rider: Johnny Gandelsman and Colin Jacobsen: violins; Nicholas Cords: viola; Michael Nicolas: cello

CREDITS
Producers: Tom Huizenga, Beck Harlan; Creative Director: Bob Boilen; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Morgan Noelle Smith, Bronson Arcuri, Beck Harlan, Kimani Oletu; Editor: Tsering Bista; Associate Producer: Bobby Carter; Photo: Amr Alfiky/NPR

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 23, 2019 • 8:20:35pm

Tmobile has to have the worst online support ever…

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Anymouse 🌹  May 23, 2019 • 8:27:54pm

Hail is hitting our hotel window very hard. Yay.

From the previous thread:

re: #270 Mattand

Really? I’m in that area and usually my watch and the phones go nuts with warnings. Checking now.

weather.gov

The warning area is actually just west of Philadelphia; it does not include the city.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2019 • 8:28:36pm

re: #1 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Tmobile has to have the worst online support ever…

Most wireless carriers suck in that department.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 8:30:52pm

About 1 minute to satellite release

Starlink Mission

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Anymouse 🌹  May 23, 2019 • 8:31:09pm

The street out front of the hotel and the parking lot is flooding. If it rains any harder my car is going to float away.

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Chrysicat  May 23, 2019 • 8:31:37pm

re: #1 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Tmobile has to have the worst online support ever…

I really do not need to hear that. I’ll be joining my parents’ family plan there either when Sprint’s merger is official, or when my iPhone 6s finally loses enough functionality to require replacement (it seems to have on-and-off touchscreen disease, and its phone jack is shot for sure if only because I was using third-party headphones, and at one point the tape that I had been using to keep the ring connector high enough to transmit, got pinned at the base of the jack instead—apparently the jack is just deep enough that over time only actual ipods would properly seat, partly by design and partly by accident, if their plug was flush with the phone surface) if that happens before the merger..

And while they’d be the ones doing most of the communicating for the account, I’ll prolly have to do some.

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2019 • 8:33:03pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2019 • 8:36:26pm
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Mattand  May 23, 2019 • 8:39:35pm

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹

Hail is hitting our hotel window very hard. Yay.

From the previous thread:

weather.gov

The warning area is actually just west of Philadelphia; it does not include the city.

Also, from the previous thread: just got a severe thunderstorm warning until 12 AM. Given we had an honest-to-God tornado warning here a month ago, I pay more attention to this stuff now.

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Mattand  May 23, 2019 • 8:43:38pm

re: #1 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

re: #6 Chrysicat

FWIW, I’ve been with T-Mobile for 2 years and have done okay with them.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 23, 2019 • 8:49:25pm
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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2019 • 8:52:55pm
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retired cynic  May 23, 2019 • 8:55:51pm

Community Chest: Deutsche Bank Error In Your Favor

Driftglass

Glitch Causes Deutsche Bank To Miss Suspicious Transactions

Several careers ago I was a programmer, systems analyst and development director in the insurance industry. And I can tell you, this little tale of a computer glitch that let god-knows-who launder god-know-what completely undetected for an entire decade reeks to high heaven.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  May 23, 2019 • 8:56:16pm

I zipped down the street to the nearest beach access at 10:15 and watched the launch from the surf here in coastal GA. It was spectacular. Launch was a sharp orange lantern rising from the sea to the south, the 2nd stage was visible for minutes moving across half the sky with a big arcing soft comet tail, and the 1st stage’s entry burn was a sudden orange flare directly east about a hand’s width above the horizon. Well worth putting on pants for.

There is something deeply enjoyable about watching a thing go fast with fire coming out of the back, doubly so when it’s going into space. And, the SpaceX launches are more fun than the Atlas shots; more moving parts & more fire means more to see. :)

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Ace Rothstein  May 23, 2019 • 9:08:48pm

Just watched “Apollo 11.” Absolute must see.

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Dave In Austin  May 23, 2019 • 9:29:29pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2019 • 9:30:37pm

re: #16 Dave In Austin

God, I hate that asshole.

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Dave In Austin  May 23, 2019 • 9:31:23pm

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

hillreporter.com

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2019 • 9:36:27pm
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Ace-o-aces  May 23, 2019 • 9:58:48pm
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Dave In Austin  May 23, 2019 • 10:00:31pm

I had to mute @Gus
Not sure what’s going on there.

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Dave In Austin  May 23, 2019 • 10:06:17pm

Thursday Night Forge…..
Pattern welded Chef’s knife!

MAKING A TWISTED MULTI-BAR CHEF’S KNIFE!!! Part 1

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A Three Hour Tour  May 23, 2019 • 10:25:56pm

re: #21 Dave In Austin

I had to mute @Gus
Not sure what’s going on there.

His frustration with the apparent stupidity of certain high profile liberal or left-leaning twitter and media voices has boiled over and he’s declared his own private war on all liberals, leftists, and liberal or left-leaning media outlets and other thinking people who don’t automatically get down on their knees to tell him he’s a genius who is completely and utterly right on all matters.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 23, 2019 • 10:29:34pm

Well, the storms are over here in Massachusetts. I’m going to hit the rack; apparently dawn comes two hours earlier here than it does in Mythical Time Zone.

Catch y’all later.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 23, 2019 • 10:37:19pm

re: #21 Dave In Austin

I had to mute @Gus
Not sure what’s going on there.

Do you have the right Gus? That Gus only writes in Spanish.

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Dave In Austin  May 23, 2019 • 10:46:09pm

re: #25 Anymouse 🌹

Thx, I didn’t notice. The english one.

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2019 • 10:47:38pm

re: #26 Dave In Austin

Thx, I didn’t notice. The english one.

You mean @/Gus_802.

not linking because reasons

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2019 • 10:50:50pm

EIGHT FREAKING YEARS OLD!

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Dave In Austin  May 23, 2019 • 10:56:31pm

re: #27 teleskiguy

Yep. It’s just gotten weird

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Sufficient unto the day...  May 23, 2019 • 10:57:37pm

re: #23 A Three Hour Tour

And of course, its only subtweets, never actually @’ing someone…so half the time, nobody can tell who he’s even talking about.

*waves @ Gus*

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2019 • 11:00:16pm

re: #30 Sufficient unto the day…

He called me out by name a few days ago. My internet name, mind you!

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Anymouse 🌹  May 23, 2019 • 11:00:37pm

Last on the way out.

Marcy Wheeler has three theories about the seventeen new charges brought against Julian Assange.

emptywheel.net

Everything You Need To Know About The Dumb Dick/Manafort Patsy Who Got Indicted Today (Goes to Wonkette)

Manafort’s pal Stephen Calk apparently helped get a bunch of loans approved for Manafort, so much so that the bank he was getting them from exceeded its legal loan limits. Calk wound up appointed to one of Trump’s advisory boards.

He’s the guy who as a banker wanted Trump to appoint him as Secretary of the Army or an ambassadorial post.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 23, 2019 • 11:06:05pm

re: #27 teleskiguy

You mean @/Gus_802.

not linking because reasons

I’m curious as to how long LGF has decided to attack me behind my back?

I’m not sure anyone is doing that to him.

I did go through his thread and noted it seems he’s responding to people without naming the people he’s responding to. I don’t really understand much about Twitter, but it seems that would make it hard for people to comment or respond to him if they don’t know he’s addressing them.

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2019 • 11:10:16pm

re: #33 Anymouse 🌹

He blocked me after I unfollowed him, so…

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Sufficient unto the day...  May 23, 2019 • 11:17:54pm

re: #33 Anymouse 🌹

That’s called “subtweeting”, the Twitter version of being a “passive-aggressive douchebag”, also, I am now blocked by Gus.

Which is fine because I blocked him first.

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2019 • 11:20:03pm

re: #35 Sufficient unto the day…

He’s a firehose right now, very pissed off at everybody. Happens about bi-weekly.

I swear, my Twitter feed became measurably better when I stopped seeing his tweets.

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2019 • 11:25:17pm

How about some tunes?

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2019 • 11:26:56pm
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teleskiguy  May 23, 2019 • 11:35:48pm

Ugh! Am I going to be able to drive to Denver tomorrow afternoon? The damn highway has been closed off and on all week!

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2019 • 11:47:27pm

He did. A double down.

I think he… is maybe unraveling psychologically, right in front of us?

Utterly terrifying.

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teleskiguy  May 23, 2019 • 11:52:33pm

re: #39 teleskiguy

UPDATE

Had to have been spun out vehicles blocking the road. I did that, once. Really fucking weird thing, actually. I was on my way to my first Umphrey’s McGee show. I spun out and blocked a lane of traffic in my little Dodge Neon, my tires were not up to the task. No one was ticketed that day, there were many many spun out vehicles on the road that day. This was mid-November 2005.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 23, 2019 • 11:53:21pm

Epic secesh butthurt in the comments.

Facebook Post

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2019 • 12:01:56am

re: #41 teleskiguy

A few years ago they passed laws where motorists who don’t have the proper tires or equipment can be fined. This has been the law for truckers for a long time, but this spring they gave the motorists “snow tire/chain law” a little more teeth. If you’re traveling on I-70 between Denver and Grand Junction from 1 September through 31 May if they are caught during a snow code (unlawful to proceed without required equipment, with trucks it’s chains, with passenger vehicles it’s snow tires, 4-wheel-drive, and/or chains) then you face a fine. This happens only if you close the highway and are found to not have the required equipment.

The new passenger vehicle law has actually reduced the number of times the interstate is closed in winters, albeit slightly. Still, if you’re in a vehicle about to ascend to Eisenhower Tunnel when code enforcement is in place and you have bald tires, think twice, man!

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2019 • 12:10:09am

Thread.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 12:24:59am

re: #5 Anymouse 🌹

The street out front of the hotel and the parking lot is flooding. If it rains any harder my car is going to float away.

are smart cars at least watertight like VW bugs?

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goddamnedfrank  May 24, 2019 • 12:28:48am

re: #34 teleskiguy

He blocked me after I unfollowed him, so…

His twitter feed has just been blasting nonstop stream of consciousness non-sequiturs and random schizoaffective grievances into the void for years. Whatever the fuck happened to him is honestly just sad to witness.

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2019 • 12:31:48am

re: #46 goddamnedfrank

His twitter feed has just been blasting nonstop stream of consciousness non-sequiturs and random schizoaffective grievances into the void for years. Whatever the fuck happened to him is honestly just sad to witness.

Yeah. I’m actually wondering why I let all those *literally thousands* of tweets just go by in my feed for that long. He fucking lives there. All his thoughts. All of them. And it is honestly just sad to witness.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 12:39:03am

re: #47 teleskiguy

Yeah. I’m actually wondering why I let all those *literally thousands* of tweets just go by in my feed for that long. He fucking lives there. All his thoughts. All of them. And it is honestly just sad to witness.

I often mention that we should not confuse an online presence with a real person, but this does sound dire…

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ipsos  May 24, 2019 • 12:40:28am

re: #46 goddamnedfrank

His twitter feed has just been blasting nonstop stream of consciousness non-sequiturs and random schizoaffective grievances into the void for years. Whatever the fuck happened to him is honestly just sad to witness.

Oh. Gus.

For a minute there I thought we were talking about the president*.

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2019 • 12:43:55am

re: #48 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I often mention that we should not confuse an online presence with a real person, but this does sound dire…

My online presence brought the police to my house last August, thinking I was holding someone hostage, three officers armed to the hilt (shotguns and short-barreled semi-automatic rifles). I was actually suicidal. Someone here at LGF saw some alarming tweets that I’d sent, and sleuthed, and found me. There was a big misunderstanding, but luckily one of the cops was my school resource police officer when I was in high school. His two officers searched for dead bodies (there were none) in my house and him I talked on the front porch. We’ve exchanged a few emails since that incident, mostly him making sure I’m okay.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 12:45:53am

re: #50 teleskiguy

My online presence brought the police to my house last August, thinking I was holding someone hostage, three officers armed to the hilt (shotguns and short-barreled semi-automatic rifles). I was actually suicidal. Someone here at LGF saw some alarming tweets that I’d sent, and sleuthed, and found me. There was a big misunderstanding, but luckily one of the cops was my school resource police officer when I was in high school. His two officers searched for dead bodies (there were none) in my house and him I talked on the front porch. We’ve exchanged a few emails since that incident, mostly him making sure I’m okay.

OhEmGee

I have left enough hints of my identity here to find me if one looked.

But it reminds me that I had better get rid of a few items stashed around here…

/

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2019 • 12:47:40am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

OhEmGee

I have left enough hints of my identity here to find me if one looked.

But it reminds me that I had better get rid of a few items stashed around here…

/

My Twitter. Charlie Vogel. That’s my real name. I decided a long time ago that I use my real name on Twitter, because, well, fuckin’ hell, that’s really me!

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2019 • 12:53:24am

re: #52 teleskiguy

My Twitter. Charlie Vogel. That’s my real name. I decided a long time ago that I use my real name on Twitter, because, well, fuckin’ hell, that’s really me!

And… white privilege. I am a straight white male who’s been skiing since age four in the Rocky Mountains. I’ll use my real name, I have it better than so many other marginalized folks who are harassed on Twitter *and* in real life, who can’t use their real names in spaces like those.

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2019 • 12:58:39am

I know a lot of y’all value your anonymity and guard it well… I got a letter to the editor of Rocky Mountain News published when I was a teenager. I’ll put my word and name out there. Why not?!?

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 24, 2019 • 1:15:19am
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Dave In Austin  May 24, 2019 • 1:33:27am
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Dave In Austin  May 24, 2019 • 1:35:20am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 1:42:39am

re: #55 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

We noticed that US farm associations are unhappy about the US aid plan, and are asking about donald trump wrongdoings, as they know it’s not China that caused the trade war damage and halted negotiations: Lu Kang, spokesperson of Foreign Ministry

Because the subsidies are just a patch. And once they Trade War ends and the subsidies are gone, those lost markets are not going to come back. Russia, Australia and Argentina are already stepping in.

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2019 • 2:01:54am
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teleskiguy  May 24, 2019 • 2:48:53am
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Teukka  May 24, 2019 • 3:23:23am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 24, 2019 • 3:37:11am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 24, 2019 • 3:39:24am
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Axolotl  May 24, 2019 • 3:40:59am

re: #6 Chrysicat

I really do not need to hear that. I’ll be joining my parents’ family plan there either when Sprint’s merger is official, or when my iPhone 6s finally loses enough functionality to require replacement (it seems to have on-and-off touchscreen disease, and its phone jack is shot for sure if only because I was using third-party headphones, and at one point the tape that I had been using to keep the ring connector high enough to transmit, got pinned at the base of the jack instead—apparently the jack is just deep enough that over time only actual ipods would properly seat, partly by design and partly by accident, if their plug was flush with the phone surface) if that happens before the merger..

And while they’d be the ones doing most of the communicating for the account, I’ll prolly have to do some.

I have not had issues with T-Mobile Worst customer support I’ve encountered was through AT&T.

I think they all pretty much suck from what I’m hearing.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 24, 2019 • 3:48:26am

It seems that the UK have been Walmart-ized:

We asked people in Hull if they’d still vote the same on Brexit

Shirley Greenwood, form east Hull, says the politicians are doing work they should not be doing and she has not voted “for years”.

She said: “I will not vote anymore, I’ve not voted before, maybe when I was a younger girl. It’s a mess, a big mess.

“Every time you turn on the telly to watch the news, it’s there. They can’t come to an agreement but they were not put on this planet to do all of this. I don’t know what will happen but this system with the Government is bad.

“It will stop eventually but it will be God putting an end to it.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 24, 2019 • 4:04:14am

If you have ever gotten some cut roses, and wondered if you could turn them into plants:

Propagate Roses from a Bouquet

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Jay C  May 24, 2019 • 4:08:10am

re: #63 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Maybe I’m wrong on this, but isn’t it a tad unusual for a British PM to give two weeks’ notice before resigning? I thought the tradition was that once they decided to quit, they bailed ASAP.

I was going to make a comment along the lines of “good riddance”, but then, who knows who/what will replace Mrs. May? Unfortunately, it might be somebody who’ll make Theresa look like Good Queen Bess in retrospect….

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 24, 2019 • 4:09:39am

re: #67 Jay C

In this case I think it is down to the Tory party’s need for time to find a new leader.

So the UK will have yet another leader who was not elected by the general public.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 24, 2019 • 4:15:41am

re: #6 Chrysicat

Tmobile has to have the worst online support ever…

I really do not need to hear that.

I usually call-in for T-Mobile service, and I’ve never had any issues.

For a sample: I wanted to know where their nearest tower is so I can aim a signal booster at it -T-Mobile gladly gave me that info, AT&T wouldn’t. And I got a free nanocell from T-Mobile as I am just outside their signal range (AT&T and Verizon were in the same situation, but I would have had to buy nanocell’s from them.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 4:34:05am

Bucking crazy Frits. Making us wait until June 7th for the end of May.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 24, 2019 • 4:36:48am

The Tory party leadership, like the Republican party leadership here, failed to realize that they could not contain the xenophobic ethnonationalism once it was allowed a voice at the table:

NIGEL FARAGE AND BORIS JOHNSON: DONALD TRUMP’S FRIENDS ARE ABOUT TO DOMINATE BRITISH POLITICS

Farage is Trump’s friend, while Johnson is just an opportunist. Johnson is the scion of British elite, and he has made comments critical of Trump’s boorishness.

Still, the UK now finds itself in a position where a non-elected leader will be beholden to atavists.

Meanwhile, the opposition leader still has his head somewhere dark… somehow thinking that being ambiguous is leadership.

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makeitstop  May 24, 2019 • 4:40:29am

‘Morning, Lizards,

After waking very early from a hellish dream involving volcanoes and walls of rocks crushing rocks during a visit to California (yeah, I dunno either), I read the good news that the Rolling Stones have given the songwriting credit for ‘Bittersweet Symphony’ back to Richard Ashcroft from The Verve.

The Verve’s best-known song, “Bitter Sweet Symphony,” famously samples an orchestral cover of the Rolling Stones’ 1965 song “The Last Time.” The portion sampled was written by arranger David Whitaker. It is not part of the Stones’ original song. But while the Verve cleared the rights to sample the orchestral recording, they did not get the publishing rights from the Stones.

In the late ’90s, longtime Stones manager and music industry figure Allen Klein, whose company ABKCO Records owned the copyright to “The Last Time,” subsequently sued frontman Richard Ashcroft, resulting in Mick Jagger and Keith Richards receiving songwriting credit and 100% of the songwriting royalties from “Bitter Sweet Symphony.”

Now, according to a press release from Ashcroft’s camp, Jagger and Richards have agreed to unconditionally give their songwriting credits and publishing rights for “Bitter Sweet Symphony” to Ashcroft. The decision comes on the heels of Ashcroft’s management making a direct plea to the Stones members, according to the release.

The lawsuit was the work of the repulsive Allen Klein, who went from destroying The Beatles and Jimi Hendrix to managing the Stones, and eventually stealing from them as well. The royalties could add up to millions, and I’m glad Ashcroft will finally get his money for writing one of the 90s’ biggest hits. A tiny little corner of the universe has been set right.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 24, 2019 • 4:57:06am

re: #72 makeitstop

We have volcanoes.

There are some in the far north of the state, that have to do with all the Cascade mountain building part of the North American formation process.

More interesting to me are the ones down south, in the east near Arizona and Nevada. They’ve not erupted lately, and they are small. There are several small volcanoes in extreme NW Mexico and southern Arizona, and I have wondered if they arose as part of the same process that is happening in south eastern California.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 5:01:45am

re: #63 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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the lengths people will go to in an attempt to avoid the trump mob during an official state visit…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 5:04:43am

re: #73 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We have volcanoes.

There are some in the far north of the state, that have to do with all the Cascade mountain building part of the North American formation process.

More interesting to me are the ones down south, in the east near Arizona and Nevada. They’ve not erupted lately, and they are small. There are several small volcanoes in extreme NW Mexico and southern Arizona, and I have wondered if they arose as part of the same process that is happening in south eastern California.

I used to live in Flagstaff, surrounded by peaks that are currently over 12,000 feet but actually for the caldera of a massive volcano that must have risen to over 15,000’

My favorite peaks in the region are the LaSal range in SE Utah, lacoliths, volcanoes that rose and never erupted, like a big pimple that never gets a head and pops…

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 24, 2019 • 5:05:05am

re: #67 Jay C

Maybe I’m wrong on this, but isn’t it a tad unusual for a British PM to give two weeks’ notice before resigning? I thought the tradition was that once they decided to quit, they bailed ASAP.

I was going to make a comment along the lines of “good riddance”, but then, who knows who/what will replace Mrs. May? Unfortunately, it might be somebody who’ll make Theresa look like Good Queen Bess in retrospect….

Boris Johnson is the favorite, nuff said.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 24, 2019 • 5:07:08am

re: #68 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

In this case I think it is down to the Tory party’s need for time to find a new leader.

So the UK will have yet another leader who was not elected by the general public.

But that is always the situation, since the public doesn’t directly vote for the PM.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 24, 2019 • 5:07:57am

There are ancient volcanoes here too… I live in walking distance of one of them.

Long ago, when this bit of ground was Mexican coastline, a series of underwater volcanoes built up small cones. Over millions of years the coast broke away and drifted north… becoming coastal southern California. Anyway, most of San Diego county is granodiorite pushing upwards (the pluton the defines Baja California land mass) to form the mountains which you see when you drive over the interstates into the county, ( mountains that get worn down into hills and then sand eventually), but here and there are the remnants of the volcanoes where the lava was able to break the surface (underwater) and the magma solidified into basalt.

The basalt is a dark gray, and if you walk around San Diego and see exposed depositional layers, you will find smoothed basalt rocks amongst the more yellowish-rudy deposits (from the granodiorite and other solids). These dark stones are that which went through millions of years of being rolled and washed and ended up smooth.

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makeitstop  May 24, 2019 • 5:08:42am

re: #73 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We have volcanoes.

There are some in the far north of the state, that have to do with all the Cascade mountain building part of the North American formation process.

More interesting to me are the ones down south, in the east near Arizona and Nevada. They’ve not erupted lately, and they are small. There are several small volcanoes in extreme NW Mexico and southern Arizona, and I have wondered if they arose as part of the same process that is happening in south eastern California.

I’m just wondering what the hell triggered the dream! It went from a fairly benign dream about a couple of friends interacting with a video character on screen to massive walls of rock rising out of the ocean. And once we escaped from that scariness, a huge volcano erupted to the east and sent flaming rocks and debris in our general direction, at which point I woke up gasping.

I mean, the wife and I split a plate of vegetarian nachos before seeing the legendary Undertones in NYC last night (great show, BTW), but I don’t think that would conjure such a nutty dream. Maybe it was the beer…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 5:09:11am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 24, 2019 • 5:10:05am

re: #77 NO SMOCKING GUN!

But that is always the situation, since the public doesn’t directly vote for the PM.

Yes, but when there is a general election, and a party gets majority, the leader of that party is often who is the leading campaigner, and so sets the tone for the party in the election. In this way, in a parliamentary system presents an electorate with a choice of who they want to lead a nation.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 24, 2019 • 5:11:35am

re: #79 makeitstop

I’m just wondering what the hell triggered the dream!

Well, I’ve been wondering why I am dreaming of asteroids hitting the earth and nuclear explosions… but I usually dismiss these apocalyptic types of dreams…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 5:12:11am

The Volcanic Eifel region of western Germany about 100 miles NW of where I live, was also active until relatively recently, 11, 000 years ago.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 24, 2019 • 5:13:16am

My cave reeks of the stench of pet carpet cleaner and liquefied dog poop

I will never cease being amazed that my dogs refuse to be sick, or have accident on the significant portion of my floor space that is covered with linoleum. And, instead choose high traffic carpeted areas.

And,,,Shelby is giving me that concerned look again

Out we go again

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 5:35:06am
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Hecuba's daughter  May 24, 2019 • 5:37:34am

re: #40 teleskiguy

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He did. A double down.

I think he… is maybe unraveling psychologically, right in front of us?

Utterly terrifying.

That’s not a sign of his unraveling. That’s a sign of his trying to destroy his opponents — he used similar tactics to defeat his 16 primary contenders and to win the general election. He is trying to damage her to help with winning back the House in 2020. Let’s not underestimate the effectiveness of his strategy, which has led to victory after victory for him, and losses for everyone else.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 5:39:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 5:40:39am

moron

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makeitstop  May 24, 2019 • 5:41:52am

re: #86 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s not a sign of his unraveling. That’s a sign of his trying to destroy his opponents — he used similar tactics to defeat his 16 primary contenders and to win the general election. He is trying to damage her to help with winning back the House in 2020. Let’s not underestimate the effectiveness of his strategy, which has led to victory after victory for him, and losses for everyone else.

Fair point. But for the most part, his ‘successes’ in the primaries came mostly against male opponents, and when he went after Carly Fiorina about her looks he caught some righteous shit for it.

And that was when he was a (politically) unknown commodity. Now that he’s been on the job (kinda) for 2 years and people know what a dick he is, attacking Pelosi is just as likely to be seen as bullying a woman. A lot of his psychodrama doesn’t play as well now as it did in the primaries.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 5:42:38am

re: #89 makeitstop

Fair point. But for the most part, his ‘successes’ in the primaries came mostly against male opponents, and when he went after Carly Fiorina about her looks he caught some righteous shit for it.

And that was when he was a (politically) unknown commodity. Now that he’s been on the job (kinda) for 2 years and people know what a dick he is, attacking Pelosi is just as likely to be seen as bullying a woman. A lot of his psychodrama doesn’t play as well now as it did in the primaries.

and Nancy does not bow down to bullying

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 5:45:13am
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jeffreyw  May 24, 2019 • 5:48:39am

Bees!

Good morning!

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Targetpractice  May 24, 2019 • 5:48:58am

It should also be noted that the GOP as a whole attacked Pelosi all of last year, holding her up as a boogeyman to voters. I know here in VA that Scott Taylor basically screamed “ZOMG! IF YOU ELECT ELAINE LURIA, YOU’LL BE ELECTING NANCY PELOSI!!!” And yes, Donny attacked her too and portrayed a Dem win in November as the prelude to her return as Speaker.

So I can’t say I’m really worried that repeating that failed tactic will somehow succeed this time around.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 24, 2019 • 5:52:19am

So Putin has destroyed Great Britain and is well on his way to destroying the United States. He is Sauron, bestriding the world, overthrowing one powerful nation after another. “Much that once was is lost”. Our electoral systems have failed us, our politicians have failed us, and we have failed us.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 5:53:11am
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DangerMan  May 24, 2019 • 5:53:26am

This is the line to get to the summit of Mt. Everest
This is loony tunes

People are dying while theyre waiting…like for a bus

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 5:53:58am

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 5:54:08am

re: #94 Hecuba’s daughter

So Putin has destroyed Great Britain and is well on his way to destroying the United States. He is Sauron, bestriding the world, overthrowing one powerful nation after another. “Much that once was is lost”. Our electoral systems have failed us, our politicians have failed us, and we have failed us.

We took our electoral system for granted and did not build in the robustness, integrity and transparency needed to withstand meddling from malicious outside sources.

Nor did we reckon with a major political party actively courting assistance from a foreign country.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 24, 2019 • 5:55:57am

A little humor

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 24, 2019 • 5:56:28am

A lot of annoyance

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Decatur Deb  May 24, 2019 • 5:59:10am

re: #94 Hecuba’s daughter

So Putin has destroyed Great Britain and is well on his way to destroying the United States. He is Sauron, bestriding the world, overthrowing one powerful nation after another. “Much that once was is lost”. Our electoral systems have failed us, our politicians have failed us, and we have failed us.

The Rolling Stones are failing us, too.

The annuities firms behind the new Stones tour
axios.com

Really can’t get no satisfaction.

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lawhawk  May 24, 2019 • 5:59:16am

re: #71 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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Shropshire Slasher  May 24, 2019 • 5:59:28am

re: #96 DangerMan

Look at all that $$$$$$$ in gear!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 5:59:45am
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Shropshire Slasher  May 24, 2019 • 6:01:54am

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

Michigan is the only state to require that drivers buy unlimited personal injury protection benefits with their auto insurance policy.

Damn, I wonder what group of lawyers wanted that in there originally.

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Decatur Deb  May 24, 2019 • 6:03:26am

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

BREAKING: Michigan Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer says she and Republican legislators have reached an “agreement in concept” to lower the nation’s highest auto insurance premiums. apne.ws

1. Stop repairing potholes.
2. Traffic will slow, then stop.
3. Profit!!!

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Targetpractice  May 24, 2019 • 6:04:28am

re: #102 lawhawk

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Putin’s not doing anything his predecessors didn’t dabble in for generations. The only difference is that the fear of being associated with Russia died with the Cold War. Where once being caught taking even a ruble from a Soviet citizen would have killed your political career, now it gets wrapped up in “debate” about whether or not it’s wrong to take money/info from foreign sources.

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Jay C  May 24, 2019 • 6:09:06am

re: #76 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Boris Johnson is the favorite, nuff said.

SRSLY.

PS: In case anyone wants more British (i.e. properly thought-out and well-articulated) commentary/analysis on Brexit and its associated follies, bookmark The Brexit Blog if you haven’t already.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 6:09:49am

re: #107 Targetpractice

Putin’s not doing anything his predecessors didn’t dabble in for generations. The only difference is that the fear of being associated with Russia died with the Cold War. Where once being caught taking even a ruble from a Soviet citizen would have killed your political career, now it gets wrapped up in “debate” about whether or not it’s wrong to take money/info from foreign sources.

And Russia was quick to grasp the possibilities opened for meddling by the spread of the Internet and America’s way of using it.

And our stupidity.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 24, 2019 • 6:12:54am

re: #107 Targetpractice

Putin’s not doing anything his predecessors didn’t dabble in for generations. The only difference is that the fear of being associated with Russia died with the Cold War. Where once being caught taking even a ruble from a Soviet citizen would have killed your political career, now it gets wrapped up in “debate” about whether or not it’s wrong to take money/info from foreign sources.

Prior generations of Soviet leadership did not have Social Media to spread their poison nor the technical capacity to infiltrate our voting administration systems. The internet has opened access to all malefactors and given unlimited power to anyone, no matter how humble, with the technical skills to manipulate the data that underlies our civilization.

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Belafon  May 24, 2019 • 6:14:40am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 6:15:03am
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Belafon  May 24, 2019 • 6:16:18am

re: #110 Hecuba’s daughter

Prior generations of Soviet leadership did not have Social Media to spread their poison nor the technical capacity to infiltrate our voting administration systems. The internet has opened access to all malefactors and given unlimited power to anyone, no matter how humble, with the technical skills to manipulate the data that underlies our civilization.

No, they just used people. While they have the ability to do what you said, we do actually have the ability to detect it as well, even if the Toddler-in-Chief and his hench-AG would like us to believe otherwise. Companies like Microsoft and Google are doing things to counter it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 6:18:09am

re: #113 Belafon

Companies like Microsoft and Google are not doing enough things to effectively counter it.

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Belafon  May 24, 2019 • 6:24:04am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 6:26:32am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 6:29:03am

jeebus

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lawhawk  May 24, 2019 • 6:30:54am

re: #115 Belafon

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Belafon  May 24, 2019 • 6:31:19am

We all do know who would love this information:

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Hecuba's daughter  May 24, 2019 • 6:34:53am

re: #115 Belafon

Trump Advisor Lewandowski: Biden behind Steele Dossier; Comey, McCabe, Strzok and Page will all be on trial “March or April of the next year.”

This is terrifying. My brother has been chanting this for months — Trumpsters are all brainwashed to believe those protecting America are the true criminals. Our nation is finished if this evil comes to pass.

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Targetpractice  May 24, 2019 • 6:36:06am

The “Law & Order” crowd are engaged in a circle-jerk about how the whole DOJ’s gonna be put on trial for ever thinking it could look into the affairs of Donald J. Trump. Make of that what you will.

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austin_blue  May 24, 2019 • 6:38:04am

5_-=re: #96 DangerMan

This is the line to get to the summit of Mt. Everest
This is loony tunes

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People are dying while they’re waiting…like for a bus

And I thought getting a license renewed at the DMV was tough…

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DangerMan  May 24, 2019 • 6:40:26am

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 24, 2019 • 6:49:13am

re: #86 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s not a sign of his unraveling. That’s a sign of his trying to destroy his opponents — he used similar tactics to defeat his 16 primary contenders and to win the general election. He is trying to damage her to help with winning back the House in 2020. Let’s not underestimate the effectiveness of his strategy, which has led to victory after victory for him, and losses for everyone else.

In this case that would mean convincing San Francisco voters not to vote for Nancy.

Hee.

Hee.

Hee.

Haw.

Haw.

Haw.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 24, 2019 • 6:51:29am
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Hecuba's daughter  May 24, 2019 • 6:52:24am

re: #124 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

In this case that would mean convincing San Francisco voters not to vote for Nancy.
..

Nope — it means that sufficient number of House seats revert to GOP so that some evil toad becomes Speaker.

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Belafon  May 24, 2019 • 6:56:01am

re: #126 Hecuba’s daughter

Nope — it means that sufficient number of House seats revert to GOP so that some evil toad becomes Speaker.

I remember how well that worked in 2018.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 7:00:29am

...

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 24, 2019 • 7:04:01am

re: #126 Hecuba’s daughter

Nope — it means that sufficient number of House seats revert to GOP so that some evil toad becomes Speaker.

I’m sure she’ll be a critical factor in Congressional districts across the nation as they decide how to vote in 2020. Among all the people who would never have voted for a Democrat anyway.

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Belafon  May 24, 2019 • 7:07:14am

re: #129 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

I’m sure she’ll be a critical factor in Congressional districts across the nation as they decide how to vote in 2020. Among all the people who would never have voted for a Democrat anyway.

The ads they ran against Colin Allred when he ran against Pete Sessions here in Texas featured her prominantly.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 24, 2019 • 7:12:21am

Just got back from breakfast in the hotel. They have USA Today available as a morning paper.

They have opposing opinion columns in the paper today on Donald Trump pardoning war criminals on Memorial Day.

One is from a military analyst who argues this is about as bad as every other person I’ve read about that: It undermines confidence in the military and our justice system.

The other is from Rep. Duncan Hunter, who argues the military justice system is corrupt and this is righting wrongs.

Can I say Rep. Hunter can go sit on a rusty unsharpened cactus to clean out his brain polyps?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 7:14:55am

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹

The other is from Rep. Duncan Hunter, who argues the military justice system is corrupt and this is righting wrongs.

So Trump is not only allowing criminals to go free but he is casting aspersions on military justice?

He really has no fucking idea what kind of people he is pissing off in order to play to his shrinking base…

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 24, 2019 • 7:16:44am

re: #130 Belafon

The ads they ran against Colin Allred when he ran against Pete Sessions here in Texas featured her prominantly.

And how did that work for them?

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DangerMan  May 24, 2019 • 7:18:26am

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

“If they try to Impeach President Trump, who has done nothing wrong (No Collusion), they will end up getting him re-elected” @LindseyGrahamSC Impeachment is for High Crimes and Misdemeanors. There were no High Crimes and Misdemeanors, except for those committed by the other side!

moron

donnie et al have yet to consider that he could be impeached for something totally unrelated to the mueller investigation/report

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lawhawk  May 24, 2019 • 7:20:40am

re: #134 DangerMan

Every time Graham speaks re: impeachment, everyone should post this back at his hypocritical dumbassery:

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Targetpractice  May 24, 2019 • 7:26:30am

re: #135 lawhawk

Every time Graham speaks re: impeachment, everyone should post this back at his hypocritical dumbassery:

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Of course he believes in that standard…so long as it applies strictly to Democrats.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 24, 2019 • 7:27:04am

re: #120 Hecuba’s daughter

This is terrifying. My brother has been chanting this for months — Trumpsters are all brainwashed to believe those protecting America are the true criminals. Our nation is finished if this evil comes to pass.

So is my brainwashed family. They are actually involved in church prayer circles praying for Hillary and Obama to be indicted and tried for treason along with Comey, McCabe, Strzok and Page.

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lawhawk  May 24, 2019 • 7:27:40am

So, the Krassenstein brothers are booted from Twitter?

Something was never right with those two, even if they were anti-Trump. Something about their routine always seemed off.

So of course Wohl, who’s entire schtick is to be mini-Trump, is claiming credit. Figures.

Twitter trolls can rack up all kinds of followers (some to see the train wreck, some because they really do want to follow/support what they’re saying).

Ugh.. sometimes social media truly fucking sucks.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 24, 2019 • 7:28:05am

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

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moron

Once again I ask What Kompromat does Putin have on Lindsay Graham?

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lawhawk  May 24, 2019 • 7:30:25am

re: #139 Joe Bacon 🌹

Who needs kompromat when you’re willingly doing this because your interests align with the Russian oligarchs and Putin’s vision for the world?

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Anymouse 🌹  May 24, 2019 • 7:33:10am

re: #106 Decatur Deb

1. Stop repairing potholes.
2. Traffic will slow, then stop.
3. Profit!!!

I-94 gets any worse, they won’t need to repair potholes. On the other hand, insurance companies are going to have to pay out for totaled cars.

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Barefoot Grin  May 24, 2019 • 7:33:37am

re: #79 makeitstop

I’m just wondering what the hell triggered the dream! It went from a fairly benign dream about a couple of friends interacting with a video character on screen to massive walls of rock rising out of the ocean. And once we escaped from that scariness, a huge volcano erupted to the east and sent flaming rocks and debris in our general direction, at which point I woke up gasping.

I mean, the wife and I split a plate of vegetarian nachos before seeing the legendary Undertones in NYC last night (great show, BTW), but I don’t think that would conjure such a nutty dream. Maybe it was the beer…

Maybe it was the teenage kicks all through the night.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 24, 2019 • 7:36:33am

re: #139 Joe Bacon 🌹

Once again I ask What Kompromat does Putin have on Lindsay Graham?

You give him too much credit. (Graham, I mean.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 7:37:31am

re: #141 Anymouse 🌹

I-94 gets any worse, they won’t need to repair potholes. On the other hand, insurance companies are going to have to pay out for totaled cars.

In Britain, they drive on the left of the road, in Indiana, we drive on what’s left of the road…

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BlueGrl21  May 24, 2019 • 7:39:24am

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Anymouse 🌹  May 24, 2019 • 7:39:46am

re: #135 lawhawk

Every time Graham speaks re: impeachment, everyone should post this back at his hypocritical dumbassery:

IOKIYAR is not hypocritical. It is the way things have always been done.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 24, 2019 • 7:41:22am
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Anymouse 🌹  May 24, 2019 • 7:41:35am

re: #139 Joe Bacon 🌹

Once again I ask What Kompromat does Putin have on Lindsay Graham?

He sure flipped after that private golf outing with Trump. The whiplash broke the sound barrier.

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makeitstop  May 24, 2019 • 7:43:52am

re: #142 Barefoot Grin

Maybe it was the teenage kicks all through the night.

They were great. I think the band was having more fun than the crowd, and the crowd was having a lot of fun.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 24, 2019 • 7:44:12am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 7:45:07am

re: #147 The Vicious Babushka

I like how the accompanying illustration to this article shows a page of upside down Hebrew.

It looked strange to my eyes, and I do not even know Hebrew…

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lawhawk  May 24, 2019 • 7:46:33am

re: #147 The Vicious Babushka

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Anymouse 🌹  May 24, 2019 • 7:47:01am

re: #151 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It looked strange to my eyes, and I do not even know Hebrew…

Well, I’ve had Hebrew National hot dogs before, but that’s about the extent of my Hebrew.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 7:47:38am

re: #152 lawhawk

You mean it’s not like the symbolism of flipping the flag upside down to warn that you’re in distress?

Or… maybe it was.. and they didn’t realize it.

I rather think it was the task of handing it off to an unpaid intern as the weekend approaches…

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Anymouse 🌹  May 24, 2019 • 7:48:34am

re: #150 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Watch how fast they take a “satire” video down if it’s Dorsey, Zuckerberg, or Trump.

The only way the social media companies are going to do anything is if they are abandoned en masse.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 7:50:27am

re: #155 Anymouse 🌹

Watch how fast they take a “satire” video down if it’s Dorsey, Zuckerberg, or Trump.

The only way the social media companies are going to do anything is if they are abandoned en masse.

I have already abandoned them. In the sense that I do not rely on them as a source of information about anything except friends, family and local bands/cultural/social events.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 7:53:25am
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Anymouse 🌹  May 24, 2019 • 7:53:47am

re: #156 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have already abandoned them. In the sense that I do not rely on them as a source of information about anything except friends, family and local bands/cultural/social events.

Or as another person in that thread put it:

I will post interesting things from Twitter (not Facebook), but I will never have an account.

Supporting fascist libertarians in my mind really isn’t any different than Democrats going on FOX News for town halls. Support is support.

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Belafon  May 24, 2019 • 7:57:05am

re: #133 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

And how did that work for them?

Allred replaced a Congressman in the district that had the school that expelled the kid for making a clock.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2019 • 7:57:54am

re: #139 Joe Bacon 🌹

Once again I ask What Kompromat does Putin have on Lindsay Graham?

Videos involving young boys is my guess.

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Scottish Dragon  May 24, 2019 • 7:58:10am

re: #73 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We have volcanoes.

There are some in the far north of the state, that have to do with all the Cascade mountain building part of the North American formation process.

More interesting to me are the ones down south, in the east near Arizona and Nevada. They’ve not erupted lately, and they are small. There are several small volcanoes in extreme NW Mexico and southern Arizona, and I have wondered if they arose as part of the same process that is happening in south eastern California.

The various active Arizona volcanic fields are probably from a hot spot that is sending magma up under the North American plate. That is not related to volcanism in eastern California. The Inyo/Mono Craters and Long Valley super volcano caldera are not above a known hotspot and are not related to known subduction supplied magmatism, so their magma provenance is still unknown.

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Scottish Dragon  May 24, 2019 • 7:59:57am

re: #160 Eclectic Cyborg

Please don’t do that. It’s bad enough when the other side does that kind of thing to GLBT people on our side.

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Targetpractice  May 24, 2019 • 8:02:32am

The constant pressure from wingnut politicians seems to be working, though I wouldn’t be surprised if their rich buddies have also had Mark and Jack’s ears, telling them that they’ll drag down their already pitiful stock holdings if they don’t ease back the “censorship.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 8:02:54am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 8:04:07am

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 8:05:58am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 8:07:48am

Looks like the dam of decency has been breached:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 8:11:17am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 8:11:44am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2019 • 8:13:48am

re: #162 Scottish Dragon

Please don’t do that. It’s bad enough when the other side does that kind of thing to GLBT people on our side.

My bad. Wasn’t trying to disparage anyone or any group. I was just trying to think of what possible material a Republican politician would NOT want getting out (because these guys usually wear their corruption on their sleeve) and that was the first thing that came to mind.

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Targetpractice  May 24, 2019 • 8:14:27am

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hey now, they spent a lot of time insisting they wanted to fix those things during Barr’s appearance before the Judiciary Committee! Are you suggesting they lied their asses off?!

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 24, 2019 • 8:16:15am

re: #159 Belafon

Allred replaced a Congressman in the district that had the school that expelled the kid for making a clock.

In other words, not at all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 8:16:54am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 8:23:49am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2019 • 8:25:39am

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s frustrated that not everyone is as wantonly corrupt and immoral as he is.

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danarchy  May 24, 2019 • 8:37:16am

re: #118 lawhawk

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Just FYI, that isn’t Hannity

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 24, 2019 • 8:39:29am

Rep. Chip Roy, R-TX21 killed it in the House. Objected to a voice vote since members had already left town for the next wek

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 24, 2019 • 8:42:20am

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

I knew there had to be something like this going on.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 24, 2019 • 8:44:58am

re: #177 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Rep. Chip Roy, R-TX21 killed it in the House. Objected to a voice vote since members had already left town for the next wek

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Another TexAssHole…

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Targetpractice  May 24, 2019 • 8:45:05am

re: #177 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Rep. Chip Roy, R-TX21 killed it in the House. Objected to a voice vote since members had already left town for the next wek

[Embedded content]

And the shithead’s entire excuse boils down to two things: “I don’t like spending money!” and “I don’t like that it leaves out spending I approve of!”

FFS

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 8:46:39am
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lawhawk  May 24, 2019 • 8:46:45am

re: #176 danarchy

They all look the same to me - and yeah, I realized that after the fact.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 8:48:16am

re: #182 lawhawk

They all look the same to me - and yeah, I realized that after the fact.

He looks Hannity-y

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Belafon  May 24, 2019 • 8:48:44am

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump already bends down and kisses your ass. What other position do you want?

(Don’t answer that.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 8:53:47am

O_o

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plansbandc  May 24, 2019 • 8:54:07am

re: #177 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This is the sort of shit that will eventual make me give up.

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DodgerFan1988  May 24, 2019 • 8:54:56am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 24, 2019 • 8:55:32am
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Citizen K  May 24, 2019 • 8:57:22am

re: #187 DodgerFan1988

Destroying our safety and our autonomy to trigger the libs.

They’re going to tear out everything they can to ensure we live in as pure an autocracy as possible. And the media will likely continue to fiddle along until it’s too late. Hell, the implications of the Assange indictment suggests it might already be too late.

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Targetpractice  May 24, 2019 • 8:57:45am

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So the “Master Dealmaker” has again been served notice that he will either bend a knee or get nothing.

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ericblair  May 24, 2019 • 9:02:24am

re: #187 DodgerFan1988

Make no mistake: If Barr discloses the identities of CIA and CI sources providing information on Russia he is disabling our intelligence capacities *to Russia’s advantage*. It puts sources providing intelligence in danger and cripples the ICs ability to recruit new sources 1/

The word that everyone seems to be grasping for here is treason.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 9:05:17am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 9:07:31am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2019 • 9:07:41am

re: #180 Targetpractice

And the shithead’s entire excuse boils down to two things: “I don’t like spending money!” and “I don’t like that it leaves out spending I approve of!”

FFS

Newsflash: SOMETIMES THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO SPEND MONEY ON STUFF.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 9:08:40am

Nancy has the right approach here: leave the 30% to their own devices, let Trump convince the rest of the undecided electorate in his own words and actions why he is unstable, incompetent, corrupt and outright dangerous.

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John Hughes  May 24, 2019 • 9:08:51am

re: #68 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So the UK will have yet another leader who was not elected by the general public.

The UK has never had a Prime Minister who was elected by the general public.

But usually they have some vague idea who the party they vote for in a general election will propose for Prime Minister.

(Minor problem for the poor buggers in Norn Ireland being that the”national” parties don’t put up candidates in Norn Ireland).

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Targetpractice  May 24, 2019 • 9:10:36am

re: #196 John Hughes

The UK has never had a Prime Minister who was elected by the general public.

But usually they have some vague idea who the party they vote for in a general election will propose for Prime Minister.

(Minor problem for the poor buggers in Norn Ireland being that the”national” parties don’t put up candidates in Norn Ireland).

Which is why Labour is having trouble getting any traction despite being the party that seems (at least on paper) to be the one that is most “Remain”: Giving them a majority of even enough seats to cobble together a coalition gov’t likely means Jeremy Corbyn being the new PM. And that’s just a step too far, even for some folks in the Labour ranks.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2019 • 9:11:47am

re: #196 John Hughes

Correct. In a Parliamentary system, the members of the political party itself vote on and elect a leader. That leader then becomes the parties candidate when an election comes around.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 9:13:58am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

Correct. In a Parliamentary system, the members of the political party itself vote on and elect a leader. That leader then becomes the parties candidate when an election comes around.

Americans don’t directly elect a President either, remember?

I grew up under Ford and Rockefeller, a President and VP who were appointed by Congress.

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Belafon  May 24, 2019 • 9:16:32am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Americans don’t directly elect a President either, remember?

I grew up under Ford and Rockefeller, a President and VP who were appointed by Congress.

Yeah, but the people choose their party nominee.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2019 • 9:17:30am

re: #200 Belafon

Yeah, but the people choose their party nominee.

Precisely.

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Decatur Deb  May 24, 2019 • 9:18:52am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

House Republicans’ sabotage of the bipartisan disaster relief bill is a disappointment to the American families trying to heal and recover from floods, hurricanes, wildfires and other disasters. Read my full statement here. speaker.gov]

It’s very easy to believe that the Texas Republican was just the Designated Asshole set to kneecap this “bipartisan” bill. Our town was not badly crippled by the Fall storms, but everything east and south of us was turned to mulch. Our useless congresswoman has been promising pie in the sky for 8 months.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 9:20:41am

re: #200 Belafon

Yeah, but the people choose their party nominee.

Just as with parliamentary elections, the party generally has a candidate for PM or Chancellor, then the Parliament itself plays the role of the EC.

As a rule, the party with the most seats within the governing coalition gets to name the PM

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 24, 2019 • 9:25:32am

re: #191 ericblair

The word that everyone seems to be grasping for here is treason.

Which he is accusing others of.

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plansbandc  May 24, 2019 • 9:30:57am
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Old Liberal  May 24, 2019 • 9:37:30am

re: #202 Decatur Deb

It’s very easy to believe that the Texas Republican was just the Designated Asshole set to kneecap this “bipartisan” bill. Our town was not badly crippled by the Fall storms, but everything east and south of us was turned to mulch. Our useless congresswoman has been promising pie in the sky for 8 months.

Do they care? Seems as though reactionaries don’t mind when their folks give them the shaft.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 9:39:24am

re: #206 Old Liberal

Do they care? Seems as though reactionaries don’t mind when their folks give them the shaft.

Screwing themselves over to own the Liberals

But the point is that there are lots of folks there who are not part of the hard core 30%, just as there just happen to be a lot of Republicans in California, something that does not seem to occur to Trump

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Hecuba's daughter  May 24, 2019 • 9:40:58am

re: #204 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Which he is accusing others of.

Standard Trump. Accuse others of the crimes he has committed. Traitor-in-chief.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 24, 2019 • 9:42:02am
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The Vicious Babushka  May 24, 2019 • 9:42:21am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 9:44:25am

re: #209 The Vicious Babushka

Trump: “You think Nancy is the same as she was? She’s not.”

fuck no, she is a lot sharper and more on her game than ever

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The Vicious Babushka  May 24, 2019 • 9:44:51am

STABLE GENIUS, SUCH PRESIDENTIAL, VERY CALMNESS

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Old Liberal  May 24, 2019 • 9:45:12am

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Screwing themselves over to own the Liberals

But the point is that there are lots of folks there who are not part of the hard core 30%, just as there just happen to be a lot of Republicans in California, something that does not seem to occur to Trump

Yes. But there seems to be much more than 30% hardcore in the former confederacy

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Skip Intro  May 24, 2019 • 9:46:22am

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s always to former ones, isn’t it?

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The Vicious Babushka  May 24, 2019 • 9:46:51am

SOFA KING…
(in spoiler tags because, well, you’ll find out)

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Belafon  May 24, 2019 • 9:46:53am

re: #212 The Vicious Babushka

STABLE GENIUS, SUCH PRESIDENTIAL, VERY CALMNESS

“Mom, she was mean, so I was mean right back at her!”

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Skip Intro  May 24, 2019 • 9:47:21am

re: #179 Joe Bacon 🌹

Another TexAssHole…

A Ted Cruz sucking asshole.

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Belafon  May 24, 2019 • 9:48:20am

re: #214 Skip Intro

It’s always to former ones, isn’t it?

Well, we do have Amash.

But, otherwise, it’s pretty obvious the existing ones will do whatever it takes to appease Trump.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 24, 2019 • 9:48:49am

re: #210 The Vicious Babushka

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Really gets me angry to see all the trolls attacking Chelsea every time she posts a Tweet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 9:50:08am

re: #213 Old Liberal

Yes. But there seems to be much more than 30% hardcore in the former confederacy

30% being the national average, yes. It is concentrated in certain areas

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Skip Intro  May 24, 2019 • 9:50:48am

re: #218 Belafon

It continues to amaze me that ONE person in the Senate or House can completely negate the work of everybody else.

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Decatur Deb  May 24, 2019 • 9:52:18am

re: #213 Old Liberal

Yes. But there seems to be much more than 30% hardcore in the former confederacy

Obama got about 40% of the Alabama vote in the two elections.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 24, 2019 • 9:53:16am

re: #221 Skip Intro

It continues to amaze me that ONE person in the Senate or House can completely negate the work of everybody else.

How does this work? When Republicans were in charge, one Democrat couldn’t shut down everything in the House. Or is this legislation that will pass when everyone has returned from vacation?

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Targetpractice  May 24, 2019 • 9:55:59am

re: #212 The Vicious Babushka

STABLE GENIUS, SUCH PRESIDENTIAL, VERY CALMNESS

[Embedded content]

Remember when we had presidents who could make jokes about themselves, laugh with reporters, and share drinks with the other party’s leaders?

I don’t think the nation’s seen a guy this bitter and uptight since Tricky Dick.

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Belafon  May 24, 2019 • 9:56:28am

re: #223 Hecuba’s daughter

How does this work? When Republicans were in charge, one Democrat couldn’t shut down everything in the House. Or is this legislation that will pass when everyone has returned from vacation?

IANAC (I am not a congressperson) but it looks like he just stopped the voice vote.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 24, 2019 • 9:58:13am

Afternoon Lizardim.

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lawhawk  May 24, 2019 • 9:59:24am

re: #212 The Vicious Babushka

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jaunte  May 24, 2019 • 10:00:16am
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Old Liberal  May 24, 2019 • 10:01:54am

re: #225 Belafon

IANAC (I am not a congressperson) but it looks like he just stopped the voice vote.

It wouldn’t surprise me if House leadership knew this would happen and let them show their colors.

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lawhawk  May 24, 2019 • 10:02:57am

Rep. Nadler had a medical episode this morning; he’s saying he’s doing much better this afternoon:

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lawhawk  May 24, 2019 • 10:03:58am

For those of us who love some funk mixed with their rock:

QotSA - Misfit Love (Live on Henry Rollins Show)

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Targetpractice  May 24, 2019 • 10:04:02am

The expanded Hill article on the disaster relief bill vote seems to indicate it is not dead, just held up by Congressman Asshole. And that while the House Repub leadership is cool with the bill, Gym Jordan and Mark “Hail Dear Leader!” Meadows have both tried to talk Trump into opposing the bill because it doesn’t include funding for “border security” (i.e. wall money). I wouldn’t be surprised if Roy was the one who drew the short straw on who would make a huge stink over this bill while the dead-enders make a last-minute attempt to change Donny’s mind (he’s currently saying he’ll sign the bill).

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Hecuba's daughter  May 24, 2019 • 10:07:37am

re: #224 Targetpractice

Remember when we had presidents who could make jokes about themselves, laugh with reporters, and share drinks with the other party’s leaders?

I don’t think the nation’s seen a guy this bitter and uptight since Tricky Dick.

Nixon accomplished a lot while under investigation. He did not refuse to President while he was President. Of course, both Houses were under Democratic control at that time. OTOH, in public, Nixon behaved as a President during his entire term of office. This cannot be said of Trump, who never wanted the job in the first place and shirked his responsibilities from day one.

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Interesting Times  May 24, 2019 • 10:08:24am
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Anymouse 🌹  May 24, 2019 • 10:08:45am

I’m going to log out. I’m off to the Veteran Memorial Park here in Chicopee.

The city erected eleven plinths in remembrance of those killed in the Vietnam War from Chicopee and Chicopee Falls; one of those is for my father.

I got off the telephone with the Veterans Services Officer. She confirms reserve seating for my wife and me for the parade and the follow on Gold Star Family dinner here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 10:16:24am

re: #234 Interesting Times

Very dangerous. Ask again why Congress will not act and why Dem leadership is blocking the impeachment hearings that would bring truth to light.

Nancy is letting Donald unwittingly move himself into a position that makes impeachment imperative, even for his own party.

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Belafon  May 24, 2019 • 10:19:26am

re: #234 Interesting Times

I would suggest they start by impeaching McConnell, but they can’t.

Would someone explaing to me where “impeachment” grants the House powers it doesn’t currently have. There is no “when the House declares Impeachment, it can bypass normal investigative processes” clause in the Constitution as far as I can tell.

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Rightwingconspirator  May 24, 2019 • 10:21:02am

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nancy is letting Donald unwittingly move himself into a position that makes impeachment imperative, even for his own party.

Long game beats short fingered fool.

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ckkatz  May 24, 2019 • 10:21:58am

Regarding volcanoes in the Pacific Northwest, someone (my apologies, but I do not remember who) at lgf a couple of weeks ago posted the link to a really good, hour and ten minute lecture on the supervolcanoes. The professor discusses types of volcanoes, how they form and how they ‘die’.

Beginning around 22:00, the professor discusses a series of supervolcanoes and their dating. After that, he shows the geological formations that they used to figure out when and where supervolcanoes blew up.

Supervolcanoes in the Pacific Northwest

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gocart mozart  May 24, 2019 • 10:22:29am
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DangerMan  May 24, 2019 • 10:26:38am

re: #212 The Vicious Babushka

STABLE GENIUS, SUCH PRESIDENTIAL, VERY CALMNESS

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Our president:. ” She did it first”

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Interesting Times  May 24, 2019 • 10:27:55am

re: #237 Belafon

Would someone explaing to me where “impeachment” grants the House powers it doesn’t currently have.

Can’t find the tweet in question now, but Kendzior has said official impeachment hearings grant additional investigative/document-seizing powers (or the ability to fast-track such requests). Plus, there’s the whole issue of grabbing the messaging back from GOPers:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 10:28:12am

re: #241 DangerMan

Our president:. ” She did it first”

She his letting him show off his very worst behavior.

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Interesting Times  May 24, 2019 • 10:30:07am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

She his letting him show off his very worst behavior.

And what meaningful thing will that accomplish?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2019 • 10:30:26am

re: #221 Skip Intro

It continues to amaze me that ONE person in the Senate or House can completely negate the work of everybody else.

THIS. We really need a rules overhaul.

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gocart mozart  May 24, 2019 • 10:30:57am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 10:31:19am

re: #244 Interesting Times

And what meaningful thing will that accomplish?

Bringing us closer to the moment when it is time to commence impeachment. She his letting him make it unavoidable.

This is a matter of timing.

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Skip Intro  May 24, 2019 • 10:39:45am

re: #224 Targetpractice

Remember when we had presidents who could make jokes about themselves, laugh with reporters, and share drinks with the other party’s leaders?

I don’t think the nation’s seen a guy this bitter and uptight since Tricky Dick.

At least Nixon went for a ride with Hunter S. Thompson. Trump just isn’t human.

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DangerMan  May 24, 2019 • 10:40:00am

re: #242 Interesting Times

Can’t find the tweet in question now, but Kendzior has said official impeachment hearings grant additional investigative/document-seizing powers (or the ability to fast-track such requests). Plus, there’s the whole issue of grabbing the messaging back from GOPers:

They’ve refused to hold impeachment hearings and thus opened the door for show trials

Erin Steele
@erinjsteele
Replying to @sarahkendzior
So because @SpeakerPelosi wont do her job, Trump controls the narrative, gets ahead of the truth, and gets to call anything that disagrees with him fake news. What have the Ds done?

cmon
were not even at the point where they bring the guy in handcuffed yelling “not me i didnt do it”, sitting him down in the room, maybe even starting the interview
……
while the rest of the team in the bullpen is still amassing the proof theyll need to catch the guy in a lie and/or use at trial

this is not an either/or
stuff is happening
quietly

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Skip Intro  May 24, 2019 • 10:40:53am

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nancy is letting Donald unwittingly move himself into a position that makes impeachment imperative, even for his own party.

His party will NEVER vote to impeach.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 24, 2019 • 10:41:04am

A reminder: The Texas Constitution of 1876 (Art. V sec.16) empowers county courts to appoint guardians for all “idiots, lunatics, persons non compos mentis, and common drunkards.” We should petition the Travis County courts to appoint guardians for the legislature right away.

Facebook Post

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 10:41:13am

re: #249 DangerMan

this is not an either/or
stuff is happening
quietly

timing

is

everything here

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Old Liberal  May 24, 2019 • 10:41:34am

re: #249 DangerMan

cmon
were not even at the point where they bring the guy in handcuffed yelling “not me i didnt do it”, sitting him down in the room, maybe even starting the interview
……
while the rest of the team in the bullpen is still amassing the proof theyll need to catch the guy in a lie and/or use at trial

this is not an either/or
stuff is happening
quietly

Anyone know what the status of cases referred to SDNY?

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ckkatz  May 24, 2019 • 10:42:20am

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

One common cause of ‘too long’ pants legs is increased waist size due to weight gain. The belt/waist band fits lower on the torso. So the pants sit lower.

Folks who are self aware and more ‘with it’ usually notice this, then either lose the extra weight, get the pants legs taken in, or get a pair that fits better.

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Interesting Times  May 24, 2019 • 10:42:43am

re: #253 Old Liberal

Anyone know what the status of cases referred to SDNY?

Barr has surely flushed them down Whitaker’s masculine toilet by now.

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DangerMan  May 24, 2019 • 10:43:16am

re: #244 Interesting Times

Impeachment/not impeachment will stop none of that

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gocart mozart  May 24, 2019 • 10:43:40am

Very deep cut, lucky they had the tuba and accordian handy

Bruce Springsteen - 2013-07-28 Kilkenny - Wild Billy’s Circus Story (European debut)


He does the song live once every 40 years, I think

Bruce Springsteen - “Wild Billy’s Circus Story” Live

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Belafon  May 24, 2019 • 10:45:30am

re: #256 DangerMan

Impeachment/not impeachment will stop none of that

And that’s part of it. Impeachment won’t stop Barr from turning names over to Russia if so chooses. We’d just find out later why so many people fell from windows in Russia.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2019 • 10:45:48am

Wouldn’t it be awesome if the Dems stated they were going to start an Impeachment Inquiry just after Trump hopped on a plane to go to one of his Golf courses?

Unfortunately, Impeachment proceedings will give Trump a chance to play victim as he likes to do.

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DangerMan  May 24, 2019 • 10:46:38am

re: #250 Skip Intro

His party will NEVER vote to impeach.

probably

so part of this political theater so to ensure when it gets to that point, presented and positioned properly, they will pay the maximum price for their vote, either way

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jaunte  May 24, 2019 • 10:47:15am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 10:49:11am

re: #253 Old Liberal

Anyone know what the status of cases referred to SDNY?

Stephen Calk was indicted this week in connection with Manafort (among other things).

He’s the one who wanted to be named to Trump’s cabinet and had his bank loan millions to trump.

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goddamnedfrank  May 24, 2019 • 10:49:38am

Follow up

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makeitstop  May 24, 2019 • 10:50:04am

re: #249 DangerMan

cmon
were not even at the point where they bring the guy in handcuffed yelling “not me i didnt do it”, sitting him down in the room, maybe even starting the interview
……
while the rest of the team in the bullpen is still amassing the proof theyll need to catch the guy in a lie and/or use at trial

this is not an either/or
stuff is happening
quietly

Agree.

What’s the saying? If you come for the king, you better not miss?

Pelosi knows that she’s only going to get one (metaphorical) shot.

The ‘impeachment right this very minute’ crowd is not helping, IMO.

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Mescalero  May 24, 2019 • 10:50:57am
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Hecuba's daughter  May 24, 2019 • 10:51:00am

re: #259 Eclectic Cyborg

Wouldn’t it be awesome if the Dems stated they were going to start an Impeachment Inquiry just after Trump hopped on a plane to go to Mar-a-lago?

Unfortunately, Impeachment proceedings will give Trump a chance to play victim as he likes to do.

They are waiting to receive Trump’s financial records before starting impeachment hearings. They have to establish that the House is entitled to a wide range of information as part of their oversight responsibilities, and that the President cannot interfere with these investigations.

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Belafon  May 24, 2019 • 10:51:35am

re: #264 makeitstop

Agree.

What’s the saying? If you come for the king, you better not miss?

Pelosi knows that she’s only going to get one (metaphorical) shot.

The ‘impeachment right this very minute’ crowd is not helping, IMO.

I don’t mind “Impeach right now.” What rubs me is “or you’re contributing to everything getting destroyed.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 10:52:14am

moron…

“I was at Arlington yesterday…”

gotta get that reference to himself worked into the tweet

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 10:53:34am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 10:54:14am

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2019 • 10:54:53am

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

Motherfucker.

And here I thought veterans were a strong GOP bloc?

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DangerMan  May 24, 2019 • 10:55:50am

re: #264 makeitstop

Agree.

What’s the saying? If you come for the king, you better not miss?

Pelosi knows that she’s only going to get one (metaphorical) shot.

The ‘impeachment right this very minute’ crowd is not helping, IMO.

they’ve started down the path
they’re just not calling it that yet
it’s ‘impeachment in everything but the announcement”

“iiebta” doesn’t quite have the ring to it

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Dave In Austin  May 24, 2019 • 10:56:37am

“Solider”

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Old Liberal  May 24, 2019 • 10:57:02am

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

Stephen Calk was indicted this week in connection with Manafort (among other things).

He’s the one who wanted to be named to Trump’s cabinet and had his bank loan millions to trump.

Is there a list/record of referrals or all secret?
re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

Stephen Calk was indicted this week in connection with Manafort (among other things).

He’s the one who wanted to be named to Trump’s cabinet and had his bank loan millions to trump.

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gocart mozart  May 24, 2019 • 10:57:13am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 10:58:20am
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jaunte  May 24, 2019 • 10:59:10am

re: #275 gocart mozart

The Daily Wire’s Michael Knowles says that ‘the left’ wants to bring immigrants into the country to “erase our own culture”

Does he mean stuff like Jazz? Gumbo? Tacos? Rodeo?

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lawhawk  May 24, 2019 • 10:59:38am

re: #273 Dave In Austin

“Solider”

He’s holding firm.

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makeitstop  May 24, 2019 • 11:01:26am

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron…

“I was at Arlington yesterday…”

gotta get that reference to himself worked into the tweet

[Embedded content]

A good friend of mine from Philly was a member of the Old Guard. I went to DC and partied with them one weekend. Even the 20 year old me couldn’t hang. They were nuts.

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gocart mozart  May 24, 2019 • 11:01:44am

I estimate that we have about six months left if we want to save American democracy.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 24, 2019 • 11:02:20am

I had a thought the other day, about the Christian Right and Trump. During the primaries, Christians did not support Trump. They looked to the more obvious candidates - my parents favored Marco Rubio, but I’m struggling to remember who among that crew was the evangelical favorite. They would never have said that Trump was God’s choice for President. But yet, here he is, and now he is obviously God’s gift to America. I just wish people could see the disconnect there, like… he wasn’t God’s man during the primaries, but once he became the Republican nominee, all of a sudden he’s perfect and holy and shit? Can’t you see how obviously, stupidly partisan that is?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 11:03:02am

This is the guy with passports from four different countries who claimed he had no idea what espionage the Russians are talking about, but it was the FSB who “set him up”.
Everything about this guy is just hinky as all get out.

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Old Liberal  May 24, 2019 • 11:04:17am

re: #277 jaunte

Does he mean stuff like Jazz? Gumbo? Tacos? Rodeo?

I often wonder how much better things would be if we never had lasagna and sauerkraut

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 11:05:28am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 11:07:53am

re: #253 Old Liberal

Anyone know what the status of cases referred to SDNY?

I suspect that Nancy is coordinating with them, too. Trump is going to really get done from all angles and can only lash out and make things worse for everybody, even his own party.

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Targetpractice  May 24, 2019 • 11:08:59am

You know, I like the image of Nancy cornering Donny in such a way that the Repubs will have no choice but to vote to him remove him as much as the next guy…but I don’t see that happening. Nor do I see some smoking gun being found that will so nail his ass to the wall that the public will be at the White House gates with torches and pitchforks.

It’s time to start making the case against him in the public in a manner that doesn’t go “He’s a crook…but he’s not worth putting in jail.”

287
Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2019 • 11:12:18am

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

More bald white assholes.

288
DangerMan  May 24, 2019 • 11:12:31am

re: #281 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I had a thought the other day, about the Christian Right and Trump. During the primaries, Christians did not support Trump. They looked to the more obvious candidates - my parents favored Marco Rubio, but I’m struggling to remember who among that crew was the evangelical favorite. They would never have said that Trump was God’s choice for President. But yet, here he is, and now he is obviously God’s gift to America. I just wish people could see the disconnect there, like… he wasn’t God’s man during the primaries, but once he became the Republican nominee, all of a sudden he’s perfect and holy and shit? Can’t you see how obviously, stupidly partisan that is?

he was the one left standing with an R next to his name
they have to vote R, “R’s get us what we want”
the rest is how they rationalize it post hocnow

289
ckkatz  May 24, 2019 • 11:12:45am

My remembrance is that a major reason Carter lost his 1980 re-election bid was that he withdrew to the White House and was perceived as giving up on governing after the Iran hostage crises started.

The Iran raid also brought into question hs ability to govern effectively.
en.wikipedia.org

I suspect that Speaker of the House Pelosi is slowly manuevering Trump and the Republicans into this corner. There are obviously a lot of questions with this strategy.

First is whether and for how long, the media will continue to confuse noise, smoke and mirrors for effective governing.

I think that his clown show is viewed as entertainment by the least vulnerable. And a disaster for many of the most vulnerable. As we are seeing, many of those who thought themselves invulnerable and they voted for Trump, are finding themselves quite vulnerable. (“Leopards eating faces” meme, for example.)

Second, there is always the question of timing. Trump and the Republican position is being eroded. Will it be eroded enough by the elections to force Republicans to choose between saving their skin in the election or going down with their party?

Unfortunately, as Stonekettle has pointed out, there is no cavalry coming to the rescue. No Deus ex Machina. Mueller wasn’t. End of Times isn’t. Impeachment isn’t. We (as a country) got ourselves into this mess. And it is up to us, as a country, to get ourselves out of this mess. (Or not get ourselves out of it, as the case may be.)

In any case, it is unlikely to be resolved democratically until the 2020 elections. So I would recommend doing everything that you need to do for yourself, in order to hold on for the next 18 months.

290
gocart mozart  May 24, 2019 • 11:14:10am
291
DangerMan  May 24, 2019 • 11:14:47am

the smell of cooking bacon is wonderfully visceral

i suppose unless you’re a vegetarian
though it still might be

292
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 11:15:24am

back to back BBC tweets

waiting for his omg-hair-on-fire tweets about Lyon

293
jaunte  May 24, 2019 • 11:16:23am
294
Joe Bacon 🌹  May 24, 2019 • 11:17:14am

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Another insane Xtian.

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DangerMan  May 24, 2019 • 11:18:06am

re: #289 ckkatz

My remembrance is that a major reason Carter lost his 1980 re-election bid was that he withdrew to the White House and was perceived as giving up on governing after the Iran hostage crises started.

The Iran raid also brought into question hs ability to govern effectively.
en.wikipedia.org

I suspect that Speaker of the House Pelosi is slowly manuevering Trump and the Republicans into this corner. There are obviously a lot of questions with this strategy.

First is whether and for how long, the media will continue to confuse noise, smoke and mirrors for effective governing.

I think that his clown show is viewed as entertainment by the least vulnerable. And a disaster for many of the most vulnerable. As we are seeing, many of those who thought themselves invulnerable and they voted for Trump, are finding themselves quite vulnerable. (“Leopards eating faces” meme, for example.)

Second, there is always the question of timing. Trump and the Republican position is being eroded. Will it be eroded enough by the elections to force Republicans to choose between saving their skin in the election or going down with their party?

Unfortunately, as Stonekettle has pointed out, there is no cavalry coming to the rescue. No Deus ex Machina. Mueller wasn’t. End of Times isn’t. Impeachment isn’t. We (as a country) got ourselves into this mess. And it is up to us, as a country, to get ourselves out of this mess. (Or not get ourselves out of it, as the case may be.)

In any case, it is unlikely to be resolved democratically until the 2020 elections. So I would recommend doing everything that you need to do for yourself, in order to hold on for the next 18 months.

i’ll be laying in another bottle of jack daniels single barrel

296
Old Liberal  May 24, 2019 • 11:18:08am

re: #289 ckkatz

My remembrance is that a major reason Carter lost his 1980 re-election bid was that he withdrew to the White House and was perceived as giving up on governing after the Iran hostage crises started.

The Iran raid also brought into question hs ability to govern effectively.
en.wikipedia.org

I suspect that Speaker of the House Pelosi is slowly manuevering Trump and the Republicans into this corner. There are obviously a lot of questions with this strategy.

First is whether and for how long, the media will continue to confuse noise, smoke and mirrors for effective governing.

I think that his clown show is viewed as entertainment by the least vulnerable. And a disaster for many of the most vulnerable. As we are seeing, many of those who thought themselves invulnerable and they voted for Trump, are finding themselves quite vulnerable. (“Leopards eating faces” meme, for example.)

Second, there is always the question of timing. Trump and the Republican position is being eroded. Will it be eroded enough by the elections to force Republicans to choose between saving their skin in the election or going down with their party?

Unfortunately, as Stonekettle has pointed out, there is no cavalry coming to the rescue. No Deus ex Machina. Mueller wasn’t. End of Times isn’t. Impeachment isn’t. We (as a country) got ourselves into this mess. And it is up to us, as a country, to get ourselves out of this mess. (Or not get ourselves out of it, as the case may be.)

In any case, it is unlikely to be resolved democratically until the 2020 elections. So I would recommend doing everything that you need to do for yourself, in order to hold on for the next 18 months.

My instincts are a recession starting in October unless they further goose the money supply. Since you have to have 3 consecutive down months (or is it 4) recession declared in January but felt later this year.

297
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 11:20:29am

he’s sooooo popular!

*SPIT*

298
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 11:21:57am

No

just…no…

299
Joe Bacon 🌹  May 24, 2019 • 11:22:34am

re: #289 ckkatz

My remembrance is that a major reason Carter lost his 1980 re-election bid was that he withdrew to the White House and was perceived as giving up on governing after the Iran hostage crises started.

The Iran raid also brought into question hs ability to govern effectively.
en.wikipedia.org

I suspect that Speaker of the House Pelosi is slowly manuevering Trump and the Republicans into this corner. There are obviously a lot of questions with this strategy.

First is whether and for how long, the media will continue to confuse noise, smoke and mirrors for effective governing.

I think that his clown show is viewed as entertainment by the least vulnerable. And a disaster for many of the most vulnerable. As we are seeing, many of those who thought themselves invulnerable and they voted for Trump, are finding themselves quite vulnerable. (“Leopards eating faces” meme, for example.)

Second, there is always the question of timing. Trump and the Republican position is being eroded. Will it be eroded enough by the elections to force Republicans to choose between saving their skin in the election or going down with their party?

Unfortunately, as Stonekettle has pointed out, there is no cavalry coming to the rescue. No Deus ex Machina. Mueller wasn’t. End of Times isn’t. Impeachment isn’t. We (as a country) got ourselves into this mess. And it is up to us, as a country, to get ourselves out of this mess. (Or not get ourselves out of it, as the case may be.)

In any case, it is unlikely to be resolved democratically until the 2020 elections. So I would recommend doing everything that you need to do for yourself, in order to hold on for the next 18 months.

I ran Kennedy’s 1980 primary campaign in Pennsylvania. Really was a nasty primary with Carter using the NRA to go after Teddy. Triggered such bad blood that Ted didn’t lift a finger to help Kennedy and a lot of the folks went into the Anderson camp including me.

300
Targetpractice  May 24, 2019 • 11:22:48am

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

No

just…no…

[Embedded content]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 11:23:19am
302
jaunte  May 24, 2019 • 11:23:22am

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Koyaanisquatsi”

303
Eventual Carrion  May 24, 2019 • 11:23:31am

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

No

just…no…

[Embedded content]

That is disgusting

304
ckkatz  May 24, 2019 • 11:23:37am

re: #295 DangerMan

i’ll be laying in another bottle of jack daniels single barrel

I’m there too. Sounds like a good choice. Although JD is way too sour for my acid stomach.

305
Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 24, 2019 • 11:25:04am
306
sagehen  May 24, 2019 • 11:26:19am

re: #271 Eclectic Cyborg

Motherfucker.

And here I thought veterans were a strong GOP bloc?

The bill was aimed at college students and rural poor who don’t have access to transportation to the polls; disabled veterans and nursing home residents were collateral damage.

307
Belafon  May 24, 2019 • 11:27:33am

re: #305 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

It also shows how badly it can blow up in the manipulator’s face.

308
Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2019 • 11:29:17am

re: #291 DangerMan

the smell of cooking bacon is wonderfully visceral

i suppose unless you’re a vegetarian
though it still might be

My dog can be anywhere in the house or the yard and if I start cooking bacon, she’s under foot in about 15 seconds.

309
Targetpractice  May 24, 2019 • 11:29:24am

re: #307 Belafon

It also shows how badly it can blow up in the manipulator’s face.

I can’t really say I feel comfortable at all gambling that Barr will repeat Nunes’ mistakes.

310
ckkatz  May 24, 2019 • 11:29:58am

re: #296 Old Liberal

My instincts are a recession starting in October unless they further goose the money supply. Since you have to have 3 consecutive down months (or is it 4) recession declared in January but felt later this year.

Yup, I agree, we are due for a recession.

Usually a competent administration is able, as you point out, to plan ahead and delay the recession until after the election. This administration, careening from crisis to crisis, and having already run to the end of known money management for the 2018 elections, may not be able to do that.

Particularly if some of the crisis flare up and the administration shows that it is completely out of its depth.

311
Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2019 • 11:30:21am

re: #303 Eventual Carrion

That is disgusting

I prefer the word “monstrosity”

312
DangerMan  May 24, 2019 • 11:31:08am

re: #304 ckkatz

I’m there too. Sounds like a good choice. Although JD is way too sour for my acid stomach.

i would never tell anyone else what to eat or drink; only what my tastes are ;-)

313
sagehen  May 24, 2019 • 11:31:50am

re: #281 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I had a thought the other day, about the Christian Right and Trump. During the primaries, Christians did not support Trump. They looked to the more obvious candidates - my parents favored Marco Rubio, but I’m struggling to remember who among that crew was the evangelical favorite. They would never have said that Trump was God’s choice for President. But yet, here he is, and now he is obviously God’s gift to America. I just wish people could see the disconnect there, like… he wasn’t God’s man during the primaries, but once he became the Republican nominee, all of a sudden he’s perfect and holy and shit? Can’t you see how obviously, stupidly partisan that is?

no no no no

He became God’s choice as soon as Michael Cohen helped Jerry Falwell Jr bury the pool boy scandal.

314
DangerMan  May 24, 2019 • 11:32:33am

re: #312 DangerMan

i would never tell anyone else what to eat or drink; only what my tastes are ;-)

ps - except that idiotic pizza upthread
dont
just….dont

315
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 11:32:41am

knew it…

316
Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2019 • 11:34:29am

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

knew it…

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#1 rule of dealing with Trump: He gives no shits about anyone but himself.

317
Dave In Austin  May 24, 2019 • 11:35:11am
318
Scottish Dragon  May 24, 2019 • 11:36:00am

re: #299 Joe Bacon 🌹

I ran Kennedy’s 1980 primary campaign in Pennsylvania. Really was a nasty primary with Carter using the NRA to go after Teddy. Triggered such bad blood that Ted didn’t lift a finger to help Kennedy and a lot of the folks went into the Anderson camp including me.

Jesus. I vaguely remember that. I was 13 I think.

319
Targetpractice  May 24, 2019 • 11:37:12am

Two things to bear in mind when making predictions about the economy between now and next November: A debt ceiling vote and a vote on DoD sequestration. Both votes are going to be seen as “must-pass” and both are likely to see Congressional Repubs (if not Donny himself) thinking they can use the possibility of major economic disaster to extract concessions from Nancy.

320
ckkatz  May 24, 2019 • 11:39:04am

re: #299 Joe Bacon 🌹

I ran Kennedy’s 1980 primary campaign in Pennsylvania. Really was a nasty primary with Carter using the NRA to go after Teddy. Triggered such bad blood that Ted didn’t lift a finger to help Kennedy and a lot of the folks went into the Anderson camp including me.

Didn’t know that you were running the P’burgh Kennedy Campaign at the time. My compliments!

I agree that as soon as Carter showed himself as vulnerable, it was like chum in the water. He survived the primary challenges but was completely crippled in the general. And he peeved off a lot of progressive Democratic wing. Kind of sad as the Dems pretty much were also losing conservative wing of the WW2 generation Dem voters to age and economic restructuring. After that it was 12 years of wilderness, nationally.

321
DangerMan  May 24, 2019 • 11:39:09am

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

knew it…
About a month after E-Verify triggered the firings of longtime employees at @realDonaldTrump’s Colts Neck, NJ golf course, Trump voiced public doubts about mandating E-Verify nationwide.
Said it might be too “tough” on farmers to be

i read this story the other day and its BS

to them. “tough” means not enough legit workers applying for jobs so why cant we take the undocumented ones who do?

i didnt believe it then and i dont now

in and of itself, using e-verify is not ‘tough’.

if you arent attracting enough workers, the free market of labor is telling you something

so suck it up and offer market wages, overtime and a reasonably safe work environment

322
Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 24, 2019 • 11:40:09am
323
DangerMan  May 24, 2019 • 11:40:46am

re: #317 Dave In Austin

“Facebook says it will continue to host a video of Nancy Pelosi that has been edited to give the impression that the Democratic House Speaker is drunk or unwell” theguardian.com

cause it’s ‘satire’ right? //

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ckkatz  May 24, 2019 • 11:40:56am

re: #312 DangerMan

i would never tell anyone else what to eat or drink; only what my tastes are ;-)

I’ll drink to that!

325
Scottish Dragon  May 24, 2019 • 11:45:10am

A two star army general at Ft Hood started following me on twitter last week. he does not follow many people.

I looked at his time line today and he is retweeting MAGA propaganda from Trump.

This is an active line general disseminating partisan political positions on social media.

326
Belafon  May 24, 2019 • 11:45:18am

re: #319 Targetpractice

Two things to bear in mind when making predictions about the economy between now and next November: A debt ceiling vote and a vote on DoD sequestration. Both votes are going to be seen as “must-pass” and both are likely to see Congressional Repubs (if not Donny himself) thinking they can use the possibility of major economic disaster to extract concessions from Nancy.

Haven’t they already tried that?

327
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 24, 2019 • 11:46:26am

re: #321 DangerMan

if you arent attracting enough workers, the free market of labor is telling you something

so suck it up and offer market wages, overtime and a reasonably safe work environment

That is the point: entire industries base their business model on a pool of cheap and easily exploited labor.

What would agriculture, food processing, food service, construction, landscaping and domestic services look like with out undocumented workers?

328
Targetpractice  May 24, 2019 • 11:46:50am

re: #322 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

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When one sees media as a business rather than a means of providing information, it all starts to make more sense. Those journalists are told that they need more Joe Sixpacks reading/listening/watching because there’s more money in putting out ads for companies like Wal-Mart or Budweiser, that there’s no market for journalism anymore but plenty of time for the latest celebrity gossip or Hollywood news.

329
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2019 • 11:53:05am

re: #321 DangerMan

i read this story the other day and its BS

to them. “tough” means not enough legit workers applying for jobs so why cant we take the undocumented ones who do?

i didnt believe it then and i dont now

in and of itself, using e-verify is not ‘tough’.

if you arent attracting enough workers, the free market of labor is telling you something

so suck it up and offer market wages, overtime and a reasonably safe work environment

As a farmer I can attest that e-verify is a royal PITA and there was a significant cost (at the time in the late 1990s/early 2000s) per employee that I would have to pay. Pissed me off because farm workers here are hired via the local state employment office and my feeling was (and still is) that any worker via a state employment office (or any other employment service) should already have be e-verified. Why should I pay it when the employment service is getting a cut of the wages from me already?
I ended up hiring my grandkids.

330
The Vicious Babushka  May 24, 2019 • 11:55:30am

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

No

just…no…

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331
Decatur Deb  May 24, 2019 • 11:55:54am

re: #302 jaunte

“Koyaanisquatsi”

A way of pizza that indicates the need for another way of pizza.

332
ipsos  May 24, 2019 • 12:26:44pm

re: #331 Decatur Deb

A way of pizza that indicates the need for another way of pizza.

Pineappleqatsi?

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Dave In Austin  May 24, 2019 • 8:08:45pm

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