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Ace-o-aces  May 27, 2019 • 10:45:00am
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Skip Intro  May 27, 2019 • 11:02:50am

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2019 • 11:07:24am

Wow, that was fucking amazing!

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 27, 2019 • 11:08:48am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 11:10:21am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2019 • 11:14:55am

It’s currently 3 am in Japan so expect a tweet storm in the next two hours or so.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 11:15:59am

I’m shocked…anyone else shocked?

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William Lewis  May 27, 2019 • 11:21:16am

There’s a good NPR article on the US Army Tweet yesterday “How has service impacted you” blowing up in their faces… One bit that pissed me off the worst:

Many women responded with stories of sexual harassment and assault while serving in the military. One wrote of suffering from depression and anxiety, and said she “still can’t deal well with loud noises. I was assaulted by one of my superiors. When I reported him, with witnesses to corroborate my story, nothing happened to him. Nothing. A year later, he stole a laptop and was then demoted. I’m worth less than a laptop.”

U.S. Army

@USArmy
* May 23, 2019
Replying to @USArmy
How has serving impacted you?

schmox
@IvoryGazelle
Depression, anxiety, still can’t deal well with loud noises. I was assaulted by one of my superiors. When I reported him, with witnesses to corroborate my story, nothing happened to him. Nothing. A year later, he stole a laptop and was then demoted. I’m worth less than a laptop.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2019 • 11:25:26am

SPOKANE VALLEY, Wash. (AP) - Proponents of creating a 51st state held a bake sale to raise money for their cause.

The Spokesman-Review reports that supporters of the proposed Christian Conservative state, which would span parts of Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming, raised money by auctioning pies and other desserts.

The Liberty State Gala drew about 200 people in the city of Spokane Valley on Thursday evening.

Speakers included Washington state Rep. Matt Shea, a Spokane Valley Republican who has championed the Liberty State movement.

Shea spoke of the cultural and political differences between eastern and western Washington, denied the existence of global warming, and claimed the United States is “a Christian nation” under siege by atheists and Communists.

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2019 • 11:28:57am

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

Shea is a straight-up lunatic - he’s little more than a domestic terrorist-in-waiting. He’s just itching for an excuse to commit mass murder.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 11:31:23am
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austin_blue  May 27, 2019 • 11:31:23am

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

SPOKANE VALLEY, Wash. (AP) - Proponents of creating a 51st state held a bake sale to raise money for their cause.

The Spokesman-Review reports that supporters of the proposed Christian Conservative state, which would span parts of Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming, raised money by auctioning pies and other desserts.

The Liberty State Gala drew about 200 people in the city of Spokane Valley on Thursday evening.

Speakers included Washington state Rep. Matt Shea, a Spokane Valley Republican who has championed the Liberty State movement.

Shea spoke of the cultural and political differences between eastern and western Washington, denied the existence of global warming, and claimed the United States is “a Christian nation” under siege by atheists and Communists.

We could give them Johnston Atoll if they promised to leave…

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Dave In Austin  May 27, 2019 • 11:32:40am

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

So they want YellowStone as well?
Fuck them

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2019 • 11:33:01am

How did I not realize until now that bullshit Hope Hicks story in the NYT was Habermans handiwork.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2019 • 11:33:53am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s just like with Tillerson. Trump repeatedly kneecapping his own SoS.

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Ace Rothstein  May 27, 2019 • 11:36:50am

I can’t tell you how many servicemen/women have told me that they hate being told “Thank you for your service.”

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Decatur Deb  May 27, 2019 • 11:37:16am

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

SPOKANE VALLEY, Wash. (AP) - Proponents of creating a 51st state held a bake sale to raise money for their cause.

The Spokesman-Review reports that supporters of the proposed Christian Conservative state, which would span parts of Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming, raised money by auctioning pies and other desserts.

The Liberty State Gala drew about 200 people in the city of Spokane Valley on Thursday evening.

Speakers included Washington state Rep. Matt Shea, a Spokane Valley Republican who has championed the Liberty State movement.

Shea spoke of the cultural and political differences between eastern and western Washington, denied the existence of global warming, and claimed the United States is “a Christian nation” under siege by atheists and Communists.

Little-known fact: Some state constitutions, like AL, establish the concepts of treason and sedition against the state government. Someone might want to mention that to Rep. Shea.

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Charles Johnson  May 27, 2019 • 11:37:17am
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PhillyPretzel  May 27, 2019 • 11:39:03am

re: #18 Charles Johnson

Mr Malice should go back to school and learn the language.

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Ace Rothstein  May 27, 2019 • 11:39:24am
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Romantic Heretic  May 27, 2019 • 11:40:11am

That was an excellent article.

As Bill Mauldin noted, “The surest way to become a pacifist is to join the infantry.”

Willie and Joe
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makeitstop  May 27, 2019 • 11:43:45am

From the looks of this chart, it would appear that the new Parliament has made a move toward the center.

Might not help much, but it’s not the swing to the right that was being posited earlier.

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William Lewis  May 27, 2019 • 11:49:59am

re: #16 Ace Rothstein

I despise it, though I usually grin and bear it. I will sometimes talk about it to those who mean well.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2019 • 11:55:55am

re: #23 William Lewis

I despise it, though I usually grin and bear it. I will sometimes talk about it to those who mean well.

Is there a more appropriate way to acknowledge veterans in public? Or is it better to not acknowledge them at all?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 11:59:43am

Lunch

Chopped Salad from Louise’s Trattoria
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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2019 • 12:00:36pm

re: #22 makeitstop

Yeah…..looks like the big far-right tsunami everyone was talking about turned out to be more of a ripple than anything else. Granted Le Pen and Farage did well, and of course, Orban’s Fidesz Party came out of it as expected (IOW, they performed to expectations) but let’s also remember the Greens did tremendously well. Here in Czech Republic, the Pirate Party did very well indeed, almost superseding the main center-right party here (they came in only a fraction of a percentage behind).

As for the main center-left party here - they didn’t even cross the 5% threshold. They’re almost effectively finished as a political institution here, as the center-left populist governing party has pretty much taken their place, their platform and their voter base.

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austin_blue  May 27, 2019 • 12:02:24pm

re: #25 Joe Bacon 🌹

Lunch

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It’s amazing that it doesn’t slide off the plate!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 27, 2019 • 12:07:18pm

re: #16 Ace Rothstein

I can’t tell you how many servicemen/women have told me that they hate being told “Thank you for your service.”

None other than Rush Limbaugh once told me that in person. I had attended a symposium on the Vietnam War at Texas Tech. Since I was still in the Guard at the time, I had worn my class B uniform. Limbaugh was on campus for some kind of conservative grift and I happened to encounter him outside the student union. To his credit, I suppose, he recognized my VN service ribbon and thanked me for my service. I forebore to say, “Ok, but where the fuck were you?” and instead gave some kind of polite fluff response and went on my way.

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jeffreyw  May 27, 2019 • 12:09:48pm

re: #25 Joe Bacon 🌹

Right back at ya

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 12:11:27pm

re: #27 austin_blue

It’s amazing that it doesn’t slide off the plate!

I’m trying to figure out why my pics turn sideways when I post from my phone.

Even when I turn the phone sideways the pic is the same!

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makeitstop  May 27, 2019 • 12:11:48pm

re: #29 jeffreyw

Right back at ya

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I ate mine before I could take a photo - BBQ shredded beef on a roll with Red Potato salad.

And a Fat Tire to wash it all down. There may or may not be a nap in my future

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gocart mozart  May 27, 2019 • 12:20:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 12:23:02pm
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gocart mozart  May 27, 2019 • 12:23:49pm
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gocart mozart  May 27, 2019 • 12:24:08pm
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PhillyPretzel  May 27, 2019 • 12:24:19pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cool.

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gocart mozart  May 27, 2019 • 12:24:51pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 27, 2019 • 12:25:40pm

re: #32 gocart mozart

Buckner redeemed himself.

RIP, Bill Bruckner.

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PhillyPretzel  May 27, 2019 • 12:26:23pm

re: #35 gocart mozart

Shakespeare is alive and still relevant.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 27, 2019 • 12:29:31pm

Here ya’ go.
Don’t Say ‘Thank You For Your Service’ This Monday

“I hope you’re having a meaningful day.”

That might be one of the better things to say to a veteran this Monday. You should probably avoid the common refrain, “Thank you for your service,” according to someone who should know.

“On Memorial Day, the veteran you’re talking to may be going through a bit of melancholy remembering people who died over the years,” says Navy veteran Luke Visconti, who also co-founded the website DiversityInc, which wrote about the subject recently.

As most people are aware (or should be), Memorial Day and Veterans Day serve different purposes.

Veterans Day is to honor the service of people who have worn the uniforms of the armed forces. Memorial Day is intended to remember those who died while serving.

Visconti encourages those who want to say supportive words to a veteran to recognize “that the person may have friends who died in combat.”

As far as saying thank you goes, “I don’t need to be thanked for my service,” he tells NPR’s Michel Martin. “I think it’s become kind of a platitude, toss-away thing to say.”

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jaunte  May 27, 2019 • 12:30:54pm

re: #24 Eclectic Cyborg

Is there a more appropriate way to acknowledge veterans in public?

Vote for Democrats.

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gocart mozart  May 27, 2019 • 12:31:27pm

An unproven Trump/Epstein rape theory and the origins of pizzagate. Read with a dose of salt

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Mattand  May 27, 2019 • 12:35:04pm

Read the Stonekettle post. I think the whole standout for me was the kid subconsciously admitting his hero worship was as much about shitting on liberals as it was thanking Stonekettle.

The other “oh, yeah” moment was that the people who scream the loudest at you for not genuflecting before anyone in a uniform (or badge) are usually the ones who never once entertained the idea of actually enlisting.

My neighbor up the street was in the Marines, but IIRC, he said he was basically in the motor pool the whole time. He admitted the “Thank you for your service” groveling is a mixed bag for him, because he fixed jeeps the whole time he was in.

I would post this on my FB feed, but I would imagine it would only people make angry at me. I’ve got one guy who’s a vet and a deacon; we’re in an online study group and get along great, but I can’t imagine he’s happy with the GOP and religion criticisms I post.

I think that’s what always upsets me the most: most Americans these days feel that if you’re not on the ground in tears, kissing the feet of every military person and cop you meet, you’re basically Al-Queda.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 27, 2019 • 12:38:33pm
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Semper Fi  May 27, 2019 • 12:39:17pm

re: #28 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

None other than Rush Limbaugh once told me that in person. I had attended a symposium on the Vietnam War at Texas Tech. Since I was still in the Guard at the time, I had worn my class B uniform. Limbaugh was on campus for some kind of conservative grift and I happened to encounter him outside the student union. To his credit, I suppose, he recognized my VN service ribbon and thanked me for my service. I forebore to say, “Ok, but where the fuck were you?” and instead gave some kind of polite fluff response and went on my way.

Disgusting people like Rush get away with far too much when they deal with members of polite society. I probably would have responded similarly and the memory of that encounter would always sting a little.

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gocart mozart  May 27, 2019 • 12:41:19pm

It’s funny because it’s true

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 12:44:50pm

re: #46 gocart mozart

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jaunte  May 27, 2019 • 12:47:28pm

Stonekettle points out that this essay is not actually a Memorial Day message.

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PhillyPretzel  May 27, 2019 • 12:48:13pm

re: #48 jaunte

It is something he had to get off his chest.

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gocart mozart  May 27, 2019 • 12:50:39pm
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sagehen  May 27, 2019 • 12:58:50pm

re: #21 Romantic Heretic

That was an excellent article.

As Bill Mauldin noted, “The surest way to become a pacifist is to join the infantry.”

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I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity. Dwight D. Eisenhower
Read more at: brainyquote.com

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sagehen  May 27, 2019 • 1:01:12pm

re: #24 Eclectic Cyborg

Is there a more appropriate way to acknowledge veterans in public? Or is it better to not acknowledge them at all?

“Welcome home.”

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William Lewis  May 27, 2019 • 1:06:50pm

re: #21 Romantic Heretic

That was an excellent article.

As Bill Mauldin noted, “The surest way to become a pacifist is to join the infantry.”

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A cousin of mine was a John Birch member and a true believer. He volunteered for Vietnam.

Now he is a Methodist minister working in the peace movement.

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William Lewis  May 27, 2019 • 1:09:15pm

re: #24 Eclectic Cyborg

Is there a more appropriate way to acknowledge veterans in public? Or is it better to not acknowledge them at all?

I prefer not, though I sometimes ask for it by wearing my hat with insignia on it. Its fun when someone recognizes both the MI badge and my Wobbly pin :)

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Ace-o-aces  May 27, 2019 • 1:10:19pm
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Charles Johnson  May 27, 2019 • 1:13:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 1:23:47pm

O_o

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 27, 2019 • 1:35:26pm

Yep.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 1:39:19pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2019 • 1:48:40pm

re: #51 sagehen

I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity. Dwight D. Eisenhower
Read more at: brainyquote.com

“I don’t need your civil war
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
You’re power hungry sellin’ soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain’t that fresh
I don’t need your civil war
Ow, oh no, no, no, no, no
Look at the shoes you’re filling
Look at the blood we’re spilling
Look at the world we’re killing
The way we’ve always done before
Look in the doubt we’ve wallowed
Look at the leaders we’ve followed
Look at the lies we’ve swallowed
And I don’t want to hear no more.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2019 • 1:51:51pm

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

“I don’t need your civil war
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
You’re power hungry sellin’ soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain’t that fresh

I always thought he was singing “eat that bread”

(Excuse while I kiss this guy)

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2019 • 1:52:12pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

“U.S. President and North Korean Dictator take turns dunking on former Vice President.”

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Anymouse 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 1:52:21pm

My wife and I are back from the Memorial Day Parade and Gold Star Family luncheon (held at the American Legion).

Each of the Gold Star Mothers (and me) were asked to lay wreaths representing each of the wars from the Civil War to present in the war monument park in the centre of Chicopee. (I was asked to lay a wreath for the fallen of the Vietnam War.)

City and state government officials were present at the remembrance at the end of the parade route, along with the commanders of Westover Air Reserve Base in Chicopee and the National Guard Armory at Worcester (he was the keynote speaker).

Beer at the American Legion was on the house for Gold Star Mothers (and me).

The city veterans affairs officer spoke with me before the event at the American Legion post, noting in the past they only included Gold Star Mothers, but this year wanted to be more inclusive (hence the contact with me).

A particularly sad moment was when I was introduced to a very elderly woman, who had just become a Gold Star Mother. Her fifty-eight year old reservist son (my age) was recently killed in Afghanistan.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 27, 2019 • 1:57:25pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

From an FB friend:

What might be the response from the public if Bill Clinton had said that he and Saddam Hussein were in agreement about Bush Sr.?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 1:58:34pm
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PhillyPretzel  May 27, 2019 • 2:09:57pm

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ike was absolutely right. We must find peace.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 2:11:12pm

re: #66 PhillyPretzel

Ike was absolutely right. We must find peace.

I actually remember watching that interview

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gocart mozart  May 27, 2019 • 2:15:11pm

I think that shut him up, or maybe he muted me.

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Charles Johnson  May 27, 2019 • 2:18:25pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 2:24:20pm

Lots of fun today with Spectrum going down. Using my T-Mobile backup for a bit…

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nowherenorth2  May 27, 2019 • 2:33:17pm

re: #70 Joe Bacon 🌹

It is funny because we have only spectrum where I live. And it is god awful. Like the company i work for has the wifi go down all times throughout the day randomly.

And they lost a lawsuit with new York state for this area. They are just not good.

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Targetpractice  May 27, 2019 • 2:44:39pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

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Yes, CO2 is just so wrongly treated. I call on Mr Happer to show us how mistreated it is by breathing in as much of it as he can.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 2:45:01pm
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Targetpractice  May 27, 2019 • 2:47:29pm

Does anybody really wanna remind Meghan that she got her start as a “celebrity” by blogging about her dad’s presidential campaign? That without his coattails to ride, she would still be someone whose name elicited a response of “Who?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 2:54:58pm

good fucking grief

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Anymouse 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 2:56:29pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

Where do Republicans dig up these people? Demonising carbon dioxide is as bad as Hitler?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 3:00:06pm

*blink*

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Anymouse 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 3:00:51pm

re: #52 sagehen

“Welcome home.”

I’d probably shake the hand of a person who ever said that to me.

In response to “thank you for your service” my response is generally “thank you for allowing me to do so.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 3:05:12pm
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retired cynic  May 27, 2019 • 3:07:19pm

stairway to heaven

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 3:10:26pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2019 • 3:13:00pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

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Since when the fuck does this guy speak for African Americans?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 3:13:48pm

re: #82 Eclectic Cyborg

Since when the fuck does this guy speak for African Americans?

/

Ever since Kanye and Kim became his BFF experts on justice reform

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Chrysicat  May 27, 2019 • 3:14:32pm

FTR, I’d never have figured it out if I hadn’t still had the thread from that tweet up when I had to reload the page, because I hadn’t finished reading his reaming yet. Because I’d never have sought out his opinion on anything.

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Chrysicat  May 27, 2019 • 3:17:39pm
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Targetpractice  May 27, 2019 • 3:17:52pm

Somewhere in America, Bernie Sanders is fuming that Trump stole his only real hope of winning over POC voters.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 3:22:28pm

Yesterday’s reporting on WWLP Springfield on the Vietnam War candlelight remembrance in Chicopee (0:52)
wwlp.com

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Targetpractice  May 27, 2019 • 3:24:15pm

I’m sure Donny can show us his deep care for POC voters by demonstrating that he spoke out against the ‘94 Crime Bill when it was actually being written/voted upon.

////////

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 3:24:41pm
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Belafon  May 27, 2019 • 3:25:17pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

These are when I get my fantasies about locking these people in a room with car exhaust being pumped in, and then ask them how calm they will remain. And then point out the plants that are also in the room.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 3:26:55pm

re: #88 Targetpractice

I’m sure Donny can show us his deep care for POC voters by demonstrating that he spoke out against the ‘94 Crime Bill when it was actually being written/voted upon.

////////

That was after he was convicted of banning African-Americans from his buildings, I guess.

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Belafon  May 27, 2019 • 3:28:09pm

re: #80 retired cynic

But we’re in purgatory, at the bottom of the stairs and must get through the eating cats to get to heaven.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 3:30:37pm

re: #92 Belafon

But we’re in purgatory, at the bottom of the stairs and must get through the eating cats to get to heaven.

nobody said it was gonna be easy

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PhillyPretzel  May 27, 2019 • 3:32:03pm

re: #92 Belafon

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

As long as the cats are busy with their food they will not bother us. I hope.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 27, 2019 • 3:36:23pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

He deleted it. lol

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 3:37:34pm

re: #95 GlutenFreeJesus

He deleted it. lol

he must have spelled something wrong, here’s the replacement tweet:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 3:38:50pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

he must have spelled something wrong, here’s the replacement tweet:

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ah!
“ble” is now “able”

that fix happened faster than the Bidan/Biden one

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Targetpractice  May 27, 2019 • 3:40:05pm

It might be good for Dems to remind the public that the passage of time has blunted people’s memories of just how things were in 1994. The precipitous drop in overall crime since the 90s has lulled people into this belief that such was an inevitability, that such bills in the 90s were written purely to oppress POC rather than address what was (at the time) seen as a very real “war” on crime. Before he was “America’s Mayor,” Rudy was the guy who ran around telling people he’d “cleaned up” NYC, a city that was practically synonymous with crime for decades.

Films like Robocop in the 80s and Demolition Man (released the year prior to the bill’s passage) predicted a future where crime and anarchy would only continue to rise and cops would find themselves on the losing side. It was the decade of the Columbine shooting, the North Hollywood Shootout, the World Trade Center Bombing, the OKC bombing, and other acts that had the nation convinced that shit was only going to get worse. But then 9/11 happened, the nation decided that foreign terrorists were the existential threat to America, and the 90s became that period of milk and honey by comparison. Now you practically sound like you’re talking about the bombing of Pearl Harbor when you talk about events from the 90s.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 27, 2019 • 3:41:53pm

re: #70 Joe Bacon 🌹

Lots of fun today with Spectrum going down. Using my T-Mobile backup for a bit…

Yeah, we had all kinds of problems with the Spectrum today. They rolled out some new thing and I had to spent 1 1/2 hours on the phone with 8 different people just to get it turned back on.

As part of the process, Spectrum INSISTED on shipping me a new modem. Even though I have my own modem. Because I found out after paying for 300MB internet for 2 years that the modem they foisted on me only went up to 72MB.

Shitty, shitty company.

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gocart mozart  May 27, 2019 • 3:42:27pm
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mmmirele  May 27, 2019 • 3:43:19pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m shocked…anyone else shocked?

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They didn’t make up a whole contest. The Natsu basho is held every May and the Emperor’s Cup is regularly awarded. The Trump award was an added “bonus.” But a 40 pound trophy ain’t worth shit to a rikishi (sumo wrestler), his beya or the sumo association. What matters is cold hard ca$$$$h. And that’s what they got with the Emperor’s Cup.

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Charles Johnson  May 27, 2019 • 3:45:15pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 3:46:17pm

re: #71 nowherenorth2

It is funny because we have only spectrum where I live. And it is god awful. Like the company i work for has the wifi go down all times throughout the day randomly.

And they lost a lawsuit with new York state for this area. They are just not good.

What ticks me off is that we have no choice in our building. It’s Spectrum or nothing. Sure do wish I had something called competition when it came to broadband…

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Targetpractice  May 27, 2019 • 3:47:39pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

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A nuclear-armed country with ambitions of becoming a regional power resumes missile tests after assurances they would cease in order to pursue “peace” - Donny wholeheartedly trusts them.

A country without nuclear weapons that all the experts agree was complying with a carefully-negotiated multinational agreement in order to receive sanctions relief and economic assistance - Donny shreds the US-side of said agreement, imposes new sanctions, and wants to go to war with them.

Gee, I can’t see the difference in these situations…///////

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Chrysicat  May 27, 2019 • 3:49:22pm
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Targetpractice  May 27, 2019 • 3:54:31pm

re: #105 Chrysicat

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Not to mention that Repubs make sure to impose increasingly more draconian requirements just to obtain those IDs, demanding documentation that can cost money to obtain just to pay for the privilege of carrying one of those IDs.

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Decatur Deb  May 27, 2019 • 3:55:09pm

re: #105 Chrysicat

As it turns out … Bentley’s driver’s license closures were racial, after all

al.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 3:55:33pm

re: #106 Targetpractice

Not to mention that Repubs make sure to impose increasingly more draconian requirements just to obtain those IDs, demanding documentation that can cost money to obtain just to pay for the privilege of carrying one of those IDs.

and closing DMVs in many counties in states where people don’t have access to transportation to a distant office

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sagehen  May 27, 2019 • 3:57:28pm

re: #98 Targetpractice

It might be good for Dems to remind the public that the passage of time has blunted people’s memories of just how things were in 1994. The precipitous drop in overall crime since the 90s has lulled people into this belief that such was an inevitability, that such bills in the 90s were written purely to oppress POC rather than address what was (at the time) seen as a very real “war” on crime. Before he was “America’s Mayor,” Rudy was the guy who ran around telling people he’d “cleaned up” NYC, a city that was practically synonymous with crime for decades.

NYC murders

1990 2245
1991 2154
1992 1995
1993 1946
1994 1561
1995 1177

1994 is when NYC began vigorously enforcing gun control. Our murder rate has dropped drastically since then

2011 515
2012 414
2013 332
2014 328
2015 352
2016 335
2017 290

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Romantic Heretic  May 27, 2019 • 3:57:35pm

re: #51 sagehen

I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity. Dwight D. Eisenhower
Read more at: brainyquote.com

There is nothing so terrible as a battle lost, except a battle won. - Arthur Wellesley, Duke of Waterloo

And could we use another Eisenhower about now.

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Charles Johnson  May 27, 2019 • 3:57:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 3:59:00pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

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those methods may be out there, but they won’t be easily available or accessible or affordable.

or legal in caveman states

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Targetpractice  May 27, 2019 • 4:01:10pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

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This is seriously AP’s argument? “Yeah, RvW being overturned would likely mean bans on abortion across the country. But hey, at least you have more ways of avoiding pregnancy!”

You know, as though Repubs aren’t presently engaged in a long-term plan to clamp down on all social progress for women since the beginning of the 20th century.

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Targetpractice  May 27, 2019 • 4:02:04pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

those methods may be out there, but they won’t be easily available or accessible or affordable.

or legal in caveman states

See also: “Religious freedom” laws aimed at allowing pharmacists and doctors to refuse to prescribe most of the safest methods of contraception because “It makes the baby Jesus cry!”

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wrenchwench  May 27, 2019 • 4:03:37pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

those methods may be out there, but they won’t be easily available or accessible or affordable.

or legal in caveman states

Even if Roe v Wade gets overturned, the way most state laws are written, it’s the doctors who will be sent to prison, not their patients!

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gocart mozart  May 27, 2019 • 4:03:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 4:06:42pm

re: #116 gocart mozart

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here’s a thought experiment: let’s replace “fetus” with, oh, say, “guinea worm”…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 4:07:53pm

crap…he’s coming back…

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Romantic Heretic  May 27, 2019 • 4:08:05pm

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m sorry, General. But we’ve wasted the time your men bought with their lives.

(Cries)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 4:09:41pm
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Targetpractice  May 27, 2019 • 4:11:09pm

What the Associated Press doesn’t seem to grasp is that the GOP showed their hand by putting these bills out there. Even if the bills gets slapped down, they have long-term plans that involve more than just banning abortion. There are women currently sitting in prison cells in states across the country for suffering miscarriages, ranging from taking pills characterized as “abortificants” to “refusing a C-section.” We have Republicans who have actually stood up and declared that women who use birth control pills have “millions of babies” embedded in their wombs. And we’ve efforts at both the state and federal level to impose various laws that will allow the gatekeepers to most legal methods of contraception to refuse to prescribe/sell such because of “religious views.”

So please, spare us this “Well, at least things are better now…” because Republicans recognize such and they want badly to remove all that. When they bluntly tell women that if they want to avoid pregnancy, they just avoid sex all together, they’re not just being brain-dead troglodytes. THEY ARE TELLING YOU THE WAY THEY WANT THINGS TO BE!

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TedStriker  May 27, 2019 • 4:14:08pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ever since Kanye and Kim became his BFF experts on justice reform

Kanye’s a dipshit publicity hound, but Kim has been putting her money and time where her mouth is:

Wonkette: Kim Kardashian Has Helped Free 17 Prisoners In 90 Days, What Have You Done?

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Belafon  May 27, 2019 • 4:20:53pm

re: #110 Romantic Heretic

There is nothing so terrible as a battle lost, except a battle won. - Arthur Wellesley, Duke of Waterloo

And could we use another Eisenhower about now.

The Trumpers aren’t ready for the reality of war, they just think it’s a fantasy game.

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Dave In Austin  May 27, 2019 • 4:22:34pm

“Thank you for your Service” makes me extremely uncomfortable. For one, I was a peacetime enlistment at the end of the “SteelPot Army” (mid-70’s after VN). I never saw deployment and my overseas duty was Alaska.

I gave nothing where a lot more gave all.

I also shirk from any form of praise which is a character defect I don’t understand. It makes me physically ill.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 4:25:56pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

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DodgerFan1988  May 27, 2019 • 4:29:16pm
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VaughnIAM  May 27, 2019 • 4:29:34pm

re: #86 Targetpractice

Sanders voted for the Crime bill.

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Targetpractice  May 27, 2019 • 4:36:18pm

re: #127 VaughnIAM

Sanders voted for the Crime bill.

Ayep, but he got a pass because “He didn’t support the bill.” That he insisted he was only voting for the Violence Against Women Act and the Assault Weapon Ban (both parts of the bill) is supposed to be why he’s totally cool with POC voters, while anybody else associated with the bill is a racist.

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Decatur Deb  May 27, 2019 • 4:38:32pm

Only these four senators did not vote for it:

NAYs —-4
Durenberger (R-MN)
Feingold (D-WI)
Hatfield (R-OR)
Simon (D-IL)

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gocart mozart  May 27, 2019 • 4:39:42pm
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Archangelus  May 27, 2019 • 4:42:39pm

Little sanity break

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Anymouse 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 4:44:07pm

re: #124 Dave In Austin

“Thank you for your Service” makes me extremely uncomfortable. For one, I was a peacetime enlistment at the end of the “SteelPot Army” (mid-70’s after VN). I never saw deployment and my overseas duty was Alaska.

I gave nothing where a lot more gave all.

I also shirk from any form of praise which is a character defect I don’t understand. It makes me physically ill.

The phrase goes “all gave some, some gave all.”

I joined in 1978. My service could be characterised as Cold War steaming. The thing about the Cold War was both sides of that thought it could go hot at any time. And even though that was allegedly “cold,” there were flare-ups such as our intervention in Bosnia and the peacekeeping mission in Lebanon which went bad.

The military serves as a deterrent (at least when its used correctly). You still need people for that deterrence, who are aware that at any time they could be in or near combat.

I don’t care for praise. I did the job I volunteered to do.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 4:47:32pm

Weather is crap at home. A line of thunderstorms in the Nebraska Panhandle moving toward my town. Tornadoes are being generated from storms in the area (there is one in Julesburg, Colo. moving into Nebraska right now).

Severe thunderstorm watch and flash flood warning up for my town now.
forecast.weather.gov

…SIGNIFICANT WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SOUTHWESTERN BOX BUTTE…SCOTTS
BLUFF…NORTHWESTERN MORRILL…NORTHEASTERN BANNER AND SOUTHEASTERN
SIOUX COUNTIES UNTIL 630 PM MDT…

At 543 PM MDT, Doppler radar was tracking strong thunderstorms along
a line extending from Morrill to Scottsbluff to near Wildcat Hills
State Recreation Area to near Harrisburg. Movement was northeast at
25 mph.

Nickel size hail and wind gusts up to 50 mph will be possible with
these storms.

Locations impacted include…
Scottsbluff, Gering, Mitchell, Bayard, Terrytown, Morrill, Minatare,
Wildcat Hills State Recreation Area, Stegall, Angora, Wildcat Hills
Campground, Hubbard Hill, Harrisburg, Lake Minatare, Lake Minatare
Campground, Chimney Rock State Park, Scotts Bluff National Monument,
Kilpatrick Lake, Moomaws Corner and Scottsbluff Airport.

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PhillyPretzel  May 27, 2019 • 4:50:50pm

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹

Keep an eye to the sky and be careful.

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ipsos  May 27, 2019 • 4:55:31pm

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹

When do you start west again?

The offer stands: coffee and/or a meal on me if you’d like to stop near Rochester!

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Eventual Carrion  May 27, 2019 • 4:55:56pm

Son will be 19 at end of August, and is just now showing signs that he wants to get his drivers license (On 3rd permit, the other 2 expired). Before he and my wife were leaving tonight for a drive I noticed the difference between my wife and my approach to our driving lessons.

As just an example I have heard when they are heading out. Wife to son, “We will go up here to Jen’s house and take a left up to Hamburg road. Take a right there and go past that kid you went to that senior party at, you know his name, by that subdivision with the big church parking lot, …” She goes step by step.

Me when going out driving with the boy. I get in the passenger seat and say, “Take me to <some destination>”. No directions, just get me there. Then he has to think of his route. I comment on his driving during the drive, but HOW to get there is up to him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 4:59:28pm
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Amory Blaine  May 27, 2019 • 5:00:26pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

He sees “concentration of Co2” and goes right for the Godwin.

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Targetpractice  May 27, 2019 • 5:00:29pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They’re shocked, SHOCKED to discover that Donny and Bibi are joined at the hip.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 5:05:11pm
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Anymouse 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 5:06:20pm

Vietnam War Monument, Chicopee, Mass.

War Memorial Park, Chicopee, Mass.
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Anymouse 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 5:09:56pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

Douchecanoe responds:

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Anymouse 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 5:11:27pm

Off to dinner …

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 5:15:01pm

re: #142 Anymouse 🌹

Douchecanoe responds:

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someone obviously unfamiliar with the concept of “choice”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 5:16:29pm
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gocart mozart  May 27, 2019 • 5:18:52pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 27, 2019 • 5:20:38pm

I’m really of two minds when it comes to praise for my military service.

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Belafon  May 27, 2019 • 5:23:28pm

re: #142 Anymouse 🌹

Douchecanoe responds:

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Pregnant women being pro-choice is confusing to them.

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gwangung  May 27, 2019 • 5:25:13pm

re: #148 Belafon

Pregnant women being pro-choice is confusing to them.

As long as they’re barefoot and pregnant, they don’t care.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 27, 2019 • 5:25:15pm
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Targetpractice  May 27, 2019 • 5:27:15pm

re: #148 Belafon

Pregnant women being pro-choice is confusing to them.

In their minds, the only choice that matters is whether or not to have sex. And even that is something they privately think should be regulated.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 27, 2019 • 5:27:40pm

re: #150 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

The Tortoise and the Hairball.

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Targetpractice  May 27, 2019 • 5:29:11pm

re: #150 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

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Well, I guess that means impeachment is off the table altogether. I mean, we wouldn’t want to go through with it and then have it fail, right?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 5:36:48pm
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Cheechako  May 27, 2019 • 5:40:13pm

I believe there will be an impeachment bill coming out of the House. As I’ve posted many times, I think the House will wait to produce such a bill until all the current House investigations are completed. These investigations will produce all the material facts that will be needed to go forward with impeachment. There’s only one shot at impeachment and all the ducks need to be lined up along with iron-clad evidence to go forward.

I want the House impeachment bill to go to the Senate. Force every one of the 100 Senators to vote on it. Put every Senator on the record. Make them make a stand before next fall’s election.

Then the public will have their chance to display their opinion.

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Belafon  May 27, 2019 • 5:40:30pm

re: #152 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The Tortoise and the Hairball.

I know there are people here surprised at this. There have to be.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 5:40:35pm

his required daily dose of adoration…

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Belafon  May 27, 2019 • 5:41:26pm

re: #153 Targetpractice

Well, I guess that means impeachment is off the table altogether. I mean, we wouldn’t want to go through with it and then have it fail, right?

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Trump won the popular vote, remember.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 5:42:44pm
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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 27, 2019 • 5:44:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 5:45:13pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  May 27, 2019 • 5:46:02pm

re: #116 gocart mozart

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unproven innocence  May 27, 2019 • 5:46:56pm

OT:
1957 (IMDB): The Three Faces of Eve
A doctor treats a woman suffering from Multiple Personality Disorder.
Stars: Joanne Woodward, David Wayne, Lee J. Cobb, …

Ms Woodward as the patient.

1976 (IMDB): Sybil
A young woman whose childhood was so harrowing to her that she developed sixteen different personalities is treated by a doctor.
Stars: Joanne Woodward, Sally Field, …

Ms Woodward as the doctor, Ms Field as her patient.

Today (5m46s on youtube): Woman conjures multiple personalities during extraordinary interview | 60 Minutes Australia
Jeni Haynes is a remarkable woman. She can present as a four-year-old girl named ‘Symphony’, an eight-year-old boy known as ‘Little Ricky’ or a protective teenager who goes by ‘Muscles’. They are just some of her more than 2000 personalities.

Yesterday (41m24s on youtube): Woman with 2,500 personalities says they saved her from shocking child abuse | 60 Minutes Australia
The inspiring story of the Aussie woman with over 2000 personalities. How her brain conjured up the different characters to protect her from abuse, and even more incredibly, how they all worked together to bring an evil monster to justice.

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Targetpractice  May 27, 2019 • 5:48:42pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Did you also piss on them, Duncan? I mean, since we were once told that that was totally patriotic and in no way disrespectful.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 27, 2019 • 5:48:46pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Hey, Mrs. Lincoln didn’t like the play either.” (If John Wilkes Booth had survived to stand trial.)

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Decatur Deb  May 27, 2019 • 5:49:38pm

My Memorial Days are in sync now. Seventy-five years ago at 1410 hrs Zulu, the Decatur Deb fell in flames over Magdeburg.

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Cheechako  May 27, 2019 • 5:49:53pm

re: #150 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

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Just reading that Hill article demonstrates how solid the evidence will have to be to change public opinion to force the Senate to go on with impeachment.

Remember, public opinion on Nixon’s impeachment changed almost over-night.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 5:52:06pm
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Targetpractice  May 27, 2019 • 5:52:17pm

re: #160 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

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People buy beans they’re assured are “magic” from guy who has continually failed to prove such, shocked to discover that they’ve bought ordinary beans. Film at 11.

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Targetpractice  May 27, 2019 • 5:57:14pm

re: #167 Cheechako

Just reading that Hill article demonstrates how solid the evidence will have to be to change public opinion to force the Senate to go on with impeachment.

Remember, public opinion on Nixon’s impeachment changed almost over-night.

Nixon was also in the first year of his second term when the clock on impeachment began ticking. We’re now almost six months into the third year of Trump’s. By the time we reach the point where Nixon had to resign in disgrace, we’ll be voting on whether to give Donny another four years. Particularly if people are really hoping that he will have his Saturday Night Massacre moment that so galvanizes the populace that their support of impeachment will…oh, wait, match what it is now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 6:01:27pm
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Belafon  May 27, 2019 • 6:02:32pm

re: #169 Targetpractice

People buy beans they’re assured are “magic” from guy who has continually failed to prove such, shocked to discover that they’ve bought ordinary beans. Film at 11.

I like Musk for this reason: He tries, and sometimes he fails. The biggest thing killing companies to me is that they don’t really try the big things unless they are so big, a monopoly, no one can punish them for failing.

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William Lewis  May 27, 2019 • 6:06:34pm

re: #166 Decatur Deb

I’ll light a candle tonight when I get home from work.

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Decatur Deb  May 27, 2019 • 6:11:15pm

re: #173 William Lewis

I’ll light a candle tonight when I get home from work.

Forget the candle, raise a glass or 7. Three crew got out and survived a year of POW.

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William Lewis  May 27, 2019 • 6:12:52pm

re: #174 Decatur Deb

Forget the candle, raise a glass or 7. Three crew got out and survived a year of POW.

Both then.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 6:14:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 6:17:47pm

just a few counties SE of mouse’s place:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 6:21:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 6:22:33pm

meanwhile in Arkansas:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 6:29:54pm
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Targetpractice  May 27, 2019 • 6:31:09pm

re: #180 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m totally willing to believe that the viola and pen were staff suggestions, while the pictures were totally his idea.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 27, 2019 • 6:32:47pm

re: #181 Targetpractice

I’m totally willing to believe that the viola and pen were staff suggestions, while the pictures were totally his idea.

I think it’s a pretty safe bet that he has no idea what a viola is

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Eventual Carrion  May 27, 2019 • 6:35:50pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think it’s a pretty safe bet that he has no idea what a viola is

“I knew her. She was a waitress at a place down the road. Is she in agreement with this exchange?”

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gocart mozart  May 27, 2019 • 6:40:31pm
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Belafon  May 27, 2019 • 6:40:39pm

re: #183 Eventual Carrion

“I knew her. She was a waitress at a place down the road. Is she in agreement with this exchange?”

Of course he doesn’t know her. It was only one night and the agreement was that she would never talk about it. $25K is nothing.

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Belafon  May 27, 2019 • 6:41:33pm

re: #184 gocart mozart

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So, there are two reasons for conservatives to hate the statue.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 27, 2019 • 6:42:46pm

Unclear on the concept:
White Supremacist Converts To Islam, Kills Neo-Nazi Roommates For Blasphemy

A white supremacist in Florida converts to the religion of peace, and immediately kills his neo-Nazi roommates for blasphemy.

Devon Arthurs, a former neo-Nazi, is under arrest after he converted to Islam and then killed his neo-Nazi roommates because they showed disrespect for his new found faith.

The Tampa Bay Times reports that 18-year-old Devon Arthurs is accused by police of killing two of his roommates, 22-year-old Jeremy Himmelman and 18-year-old Andrew Oneschuk, after they mocked Islam and Arthurs’s decision to become a Muslim.

According to reports, police say Arthurs told them that he shot his roommates “because they ‘disrespected’ his Muslim faith.”

He then took hostages at a local smoke shop and was eventually arrested with no further injuries.

As if Arthurs’s story was not bizarre enough already, a third roommate, who found the two roommates Arthurs had killed, is also under arrest after neo-Nazi propaganda and explosives were found inside the apartment’s first-floor garage.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2019 • 6:45:07pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

The AP is getting absolutely lit up over that story.

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Belafon  May 27, 2019 • 6:45:07pm

re: #187 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Unclear on the concept:
White Supremacist Converts To Islam, Kills Neo-Nazi Roommates For Blasphemy

He then took hostages at a local smoke shop and was eventually arrested with no further injuries.

I thought I had heard about that. It’s been two years. I wonder what’s happened to him.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 27, 2019 • 6:50:49pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 27, 2019 • 6:51:11pm

re: #189 Belafon

I thought I had heard about that. It’s been two years. I wonder what’s happened to him.

A judge ordered another mental evaluation just last month. He had initially been found not competent to stand trial and was sent to a state mental hospital.
More doctors to evaluate accused double murderer with neo-Nazi ties in Tampa

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Anymouse 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 6:53:03pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

just a few counties SE of mouse’s place:

Wow.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 6:58:05pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

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ipsos  May 27, 2019 • 7:00:21pm

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 7:06:27pm

Aw, hell no…does that ass need another yacht?

Having completed “just under 1 mile” of privately-funded wall construction along the U.S.-Mexico border, “We Build The Wall,” a GoFundMe effort raising money for a border wall, triumphantly kept up its requests for dough.

“WE DID IT!!! First privately funded wall is nearly complete!” the project’s leader, Air Force veteran and triple amputee Brian Kolfage wrote on his Facebook page Monday. “DONATE NOW to fund more walls! We have many more projects lined up!”

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2019 • 7:12:09pm

re: #195 Joe Bacon 🌹

Didn’t that jackass get kicked off Gofundme? Or is this a different jackass?

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Anymouse 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 7:14:18pm

re: #194 ipsos

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 27, 2019 • 7:14:54pm

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

Didn’t that jackass get kicked off Gofundme? Or is this a different jackass?

It’s jackasses all the way down.

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Belafon  May 27, 2019 • 7:14:54pm

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

Didn’t that jackass get kicked off Gofundme? Or is this a different jackass?

He got kicked off, started a website, and people donated there.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 7:15:22pm

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

Didn’t that jackass get kicked off Gofundme? Or is this a different jackass?

Yes he did. He moved his “campaign” to a privately-owned Website.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 7:16:36pm

From Talking Points Memo:

The wall itself stands on property owned by American Eagle Brick Co. near the border of El Paso, Texas and New Mexico. It was built by Fisher Industries, which is owned by Republican donor and frequent Fox News guest Tommy Fisher, and to which President Donald Trump has reportedly frequently urged the military and DHS officials to reward a federal wall construction contract.

“Why wouldn’t we allow it?,” American Eagle Brick Co. co-owner Jeff Allen told the El Paso Times. “We have dealt with illegals coming across. We have been attacked by illegals coming across. We have been burglarized by illegals. We have drug traffickers coming through here and anyone who is against this is against America.”

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 27, 2019 • 7:19:54pm

re: #197 Anymouse 🌹

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ipsos  May 27, 2019 • 7:27:03pm

re: #197 Anymouse 🌹

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 27, 2019 • 7:29:50pm
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Anymouse 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 7:31:00pm

re: #203 ipsos

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Anymouse 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 7:39:47pm

I’m off to bed. Long drive tomorrow. Catch y’all later.

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Belafon  May 27, 2019 • 7:41:36pm

re: #206 Anymouse 🌹

I’m off to bed. Long drive tomorrow. Catch y’all later.

You’re sleeping on the same schedule as the rest of us Staters. How can that be?

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  May 27, 2019 • 7:44:23pm
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ckkatz  May 27, 2019 • 7:45:09pm

From last thread:

re: #199 Decatur Deb

Heh. I was saving “D-Day Dodgers” until 6 JUN. There’s a very clear version by the Ian Campbell folk group.

Oops! I’ll look forward to that posting. I invite you to add a bit on the underlying story for the tl;dr crowd.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 27, 2019 • 7:49:43pm

re: #208 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

I’m busy watching the Mets lose to the Dodgers

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The Vicious Babushka  May 27, 2019 • 7:51:22pm

Spent a nice day driving to Canada and then enjoying dinner at a family restaurant with my son & 7 of his 10 kids. They were very well behaved and any grandparent would be proud of them!

Babushka has a lead foot. We got pulled over on I-94 when a Michigan State Trooper clocked li’l ol’ me going 87 mph. He was surprised to find an elderly white couple pedal to the metal on what was essentially an empty road. Zedushka growled at him “We haven’t had a ticket in 30 years!”

After running my DL & license plate through the system and verifying there are no outstanding warrants he let us go with a warning. After that I set my cruise control at 3 mph over the limit.

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Belafon  May 27, 2019 • 7:59:44pm

re: #211 The Vicious Babushka

Spent a nice day driving to Canada and then enjoying dinner at a family restaurant with my son & 7 of his 10 kids. They were very well behaved and any grandparent would be proud of them!

Babushka has a lead foot. We got pulled over on I-94 when a Michigan State Trooper clocked li’l ol’ me going 87 mph. He was surprised to find an elderly white couple pedal to the metal on what was essentially an empty road. Zedushka growled at him “We haven’t had a ticket in 30 years!”

After running my DL & license plate through the system and verifying there are no outstanding warrants he let us go with a warning. After that I set my cruise control at 3 mph over the limit.

I audibly cheer people on who are my parents age or older and drive faster than me, especially since I drive +5. It’s so much better than running up on someone driving 15 miles below the speed limit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2019 • 8:12:16pm

re: #204 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Good lord.

What the fuck is going on at the Times?

Are there any sane media outlets left anymore?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 27, 2019 • 8:14:08pm

re: #213 Eclectic Cyborg

Good lord.

What the fuck is going on at the Times?

Are there any sane media outlets left anymore?

The Times will do anything to keep Trump in office because that’s where the big bucks are!

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ckkatz  May 27, 2019 • 8:20:22pm

re: #174 Decatur Deb

Forget the candle, raise a glass or 7. Three crew got out and survived a year of POW.

It will be Goslings Black Seal Rum, quite shortly. To those that made it back. And to those that did not.

Just finished the reading Randall Jarrell’s poem “The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner”.

Which reminded me of the anecdotes in Belton Cooper’s “Death Traps”, his reminisces of commanding a tank repair unit in the 3rd Armored Division during World War 2.

Which reminded of Chemi Shalev’s stories from the Yom Kippur War from the HaAretz article “Talking to the Dead in the Yom Kippur War”…

A book on the World War II USAAF that might be of interest if you have not already read it:

Deadly Sky: The American Combat Airman in World War II
by John C. McManus (Author)

amazon.com

It talks about the human elements faced in the brutal grinding air war in World War 2.

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ckkatz  May 27, 2019 • 8:27:45pm

re: #211 The Vicious Babushka

Spent a nice day driving to Canada and then enjoying dinner at a family restaurant with my son & 7 of his 10 kids. They were very well behaved and any grandparent would be proud of them!

Babushka has a lead foot. We got pulled over on I-94 when a Michigan State Trooper clocked li’l ol’ me going 87 mph. He was surprised to find an elderly white couple pedal to the metal on what was essentially an empty road. Zedushka growled at him “We haven’t had a ticket in 30 years!”

After running my DL & license plate through the system and verifying there are no outstanding warrants he let us go with a warning. After that I set my cruise control at 3 mph over the limit.

You are fortunate to not have been driving in Virginia. 20 mph over, or 80 mph no matter what the speed limit almost always result in a criminal (misdemeanor at the level of a dui ) as well as traffic charge.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 27, 2019 • 8:45:15pm

CVN-81 & 82 were ordered in Jan. With EM Cats. Steel starts getting cut in 2023 & 2027.
Returning to steam Cats would require a complete redesign of the Ford-class carriers

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Belafon  May 27, 2019 • 8:47:21pm
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Belafon  May 27, 2019 • 8:51:39pm

re: #220 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

CVN-81 & 82 were ordered in Jan. With EM Cats. Steel starts getting cut in 2023 & 2027.
Returning to steam Cats would require a complete redesign of the Ford-class carriers

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As a former nuke electrician on an aircraft carrier, I am of the opinion that electric catapults would make way more sense.

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William Lewis  May 27, 2019 • 9:40:03pm

re: #215 ckkatz

Don’t take Cooper very seriously. The numbers don’t agree with him.

Myths of American Armor. TankFest Northwest 2015

US AFV Development in WW2, or, “Why the Sherman was what it was”

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Barefoot Grin  May 27, 2019 • 11:58:47pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Decatur Deb  May 28, 2019 • 2:35:52am
From last thread:

Oops! I’ll look forward to that posting. I invite you to add a bit on the underlying story for the tl;dr crowd.

Nothing to it. I might post the other version because of some good film of the British and Canadians.


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