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jaunte  Jun 3, 2019 • 1:35:08pm
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jaunte  Jun 3, 2019 • 1:37:23pm

All the little princes and princesses.

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ckkatz  Jun 3, 2019 • 1:44:14pm

I generally avoid the concept of fashion and judging. But, even for me, the white tie is painful to look at.

That white tie jacket is pathetic. There is supposed to be a sliver of white shirt cuff showing from the sleeves. And the cut of the waist is just point-blank weird.

And of course, this is done in England. In front of the Royalty. Who basically defined the US formal dress code. I suspect he is viewed an insulting, ill mannered and ignorant rube. Again…

So… add fashion crimes to high crimes and misdemeanors.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2019 • 1:45:48pm

re: #3 ckkatz

One more small example of incompetent staff work and/or impossible-to-advise childish president.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 1:55:35pm
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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2019 • 1:57:38pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Who wore it better?

Abby Normal.

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MsJ  Jun 3, 2019 • 1:59:38pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

Repeating from downstairs…

I want to see the analysis of the Queen’s jewelery. She’s usually quite select and each piece has meaning. She’s wearing four pieces.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 1:59:58pm

moron is probably upset that everybody else has a sash and medals…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:00:40pm

The Queen has little political power but is in a unique position to make indirect statements.

When the dispute over Margaret Thatcher’s Council Tax was brewing, a levy for community services that was the same rate for everyone regardless of income (sometimes known as the “Poll Tax”, as many people went and de-registered so as to escape paying it), the Queen quietly paid the tax for all her domestic staff at her residences.

That was her very Queenly way of showing her displeasure with Thatcher. It worked and the Poll Tax fiasco was one of the things that led to her being run out of office.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:00:56pm

re: #7 MsJ

Repeating from downstairs…

I want to see the analysis of the Queen’s jewelery. She’s usually quite select and each piece has meaning. She’s wearing four pieces.

she was wearing the Cambridge Emerald Brooch, pearl earrings and necklaces earlier for the handshake welcome to the palace.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:01:22pm
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MsJ  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:01:27pm
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MsJ  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:03:52pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

she was wearing the Cambridge Emerald Brooch, pearl earrings and necklaces earlier for the handshake welcome tot he palace.

This shows her wearing four broaches. Those are the things that I’ve read she makes statements with.

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KGxvi  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:05:57pm

re: #4 jaunte

One more small example of incompetent staff work and/or impossible-to-advise childish president.

I can’t imagine that Trump could sit still long enough for a proper fitting.

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MsJ  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:07:44pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:09:30pm

re: #14 KGxvi

I can’t imagine that Trump could sit still long enough for a proper fitting.

It takes something (I can’t think of a word for it) to wear a jacket that is way too small and yet the sleeves are down to his knuckles at the same time.

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calochortus  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:12:25pm

re: #3 ckkatz

I generally avoid the concept of fashion and judging. But, even for me, the white tie is painful to look at.

That white tie jacket is pathetic. There is supposed to be a sliver of white shirt cuff showing from the sleeves. And the cut of the waist is just point-blank weird.

And of course, this is done in England. In front of the Royalty. Who basically defined the US formal dress code. I suspect he is viewed an insulting, ill mannered and ignorant rube. Again…

So… add fashion crimes to high crimes and misdemeanors.

I could be wrong here, but I don’t think Melania’s gloves fit right either. All that rumpled glove along the lower arm and loose-looking top at her elbows? I don’t think so.
They just don’t do real formal, do they?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:12:39pm
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KGxvi  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:18:12pm

re: #16 The Vicious Babushka

It takes something (I can’t think of a word for it) to wear a jacket that is way too small and yet the sleeves are down to his knuckles at the same time.

What the French call a certain “je ne sais quoi”

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retired cynic  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:20:00pm
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terraincognita  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:20:57pm

re: #19 KGxvi

That certain je ne sais twat waffle look, indeed.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:24:35pm

re: #21 retired cynic

Should they shoot or imprison people if they try to leave their country? Or are you angling for them to build your wall on their side of the border to keep people in? What exactly do you have in mind?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:25:02pm

re: #13 MsJ

This shows her wearing four broaches. Those are the things that I’ve read she makes statements with.

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express.co.uk

The necklace was bought by Queen Victoria by Garrard in 1854.

Originally the set had opals, but these were removed and replaced with rubies.

Her Majesty also wore three large brooches covered in glittering diamonds.

One represented the Coldstream Guards, the oldest regular regiment in the British Army.

She also wore a badge with an mage of her father George V in military uniform.

haven’t found anything yet about the other two brooches.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:34:28pm

LOL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:37:12pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:42:10pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:43:05pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:45:14pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Great seeing these two garbage sacks at each other’s throats.

Rooting for injuries is what I’d say.

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Mattand  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:46:24pm

re: #27 teleskiguy

Spot the difference.

Dude on the left is a class act, was scandal-free, and knew what the fuck he was doing as President.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:50:59pm
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retired cynic  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:53:57pm

re: #27 teleskiguy

Spot the difference.

Just one?

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:54:29pm

What do you mean that there weren’t tremendous crowds waiting to see Trump. Why, his crowds are even more tremendouser that those waiting to see that loser, Obama, when he visited England.

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Alephnaught  Jun 3, 2019 • 2:58:49pm

More Janey “Trump is a ****” Godley

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:01:38pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:02:31pm

re: #31 The Vicious Babushka

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What is it with Melania’s dress?

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calochortus  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:03:55pm

re: #36 Hecuba’s daughter

What is it with Melania’s dress?

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I think it’s just some stray light on it. Possibly poor photo composition, but not really anyone’s fault.

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MsJ  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:04:46pm

re: #36 Hecuba’s daughter

What is it with Melania’s dress?

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I thought that was some kind of weird shadow.

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calochortus  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:06:02pm

re: #38 MsJ

I thought that was some kind of weird shadow.

Yeah, you can see the same light on the pillar behind her (to our right, her left.)

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:06:03pm

re: #37 calochortus

I think it’s just some stray light on it. Possibly poor photo composition, but not really anyone’s fault.

Charles has light on him at roughly the same height.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:07:10pm

re: #37 calochortus

I think it’s just some stray light on it. Possibly poor photo composition, but not really anyone’s fault.

re: #38 MsJ

I thought that was some kind of weird shadow.

I thought the dress was otherwise lovely, but the lighting effect was very strange. BTW, MsJ, Good to see you back!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:08:05pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

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Milo thinks he’s successful? If his life is a success, god please grant me failure.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:10:21pm
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calochortus  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:14:06pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

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a.) She has about as much fashion sense as her father.
b.) She saw the royal weddings a few years ago when everyone was wearing that sort of hat.
c.) Both of the above.

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Danack  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:14:13pm

re: #36 Hecuba’s daughter

What is it with Melania’s dress?

There’s a trick when taking photos with camera that has a very powerful flash to point it away from the subjects, and instead at a convenient wall.

That allows the light to diffuse around the room, which is much more flattering for the subjects, that having the light go directly to them.

If there was a mirror on the wall at about head height, that would produce the effect of making Melania’s dress be more illuminated, with the outline of someones head.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:14:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:16:02pm
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calochortus  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:16:07pm

re: #46 jaunte

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I wonder if Trump really understands the extent to which people troll him?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:16:54pm

I don’t normally do fashion or fat-shaming but, holy-moly, Trump looks awful. He seems entirely unaware of it, too, striding in as though he owned the place.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:18:01pm

re: #48 calochortus

I wonder if Trump really understands the extent to which people troll him?

No*

Cause he’s a fucking idiot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:19:08pm
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calochortus  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:19:22pm

re: #50 I Would Prefer Not To

No

I do hope he goes through life with the unsettling feeling of never being sure who is making fun of him.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:20:12pm

re: #15 MsJ

Trump just called his daughter-in-law and mother of his grandchild “nasty”. I wouldn’t even have met with him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:20:18pm

jeebus

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:22:55pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:23:01pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Mother of fucking God.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:24:17pm

re: #48 calochortus

I wonder if Trump really understands the extent to which people troll him?

FTFY.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:24:36pm

I don’t think I’ve ever once seen Trump look happy, personable or comfortable when making public appearances. He always looks stilted and awkward as fuck. Every smile forced, every hug insincere.

Even George W. Bush at least managed to appear personable sometimes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:24:59pm

re: #55 jaunte

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:25:38pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:25:49pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

The President of the United States, Donald Trump, falling asleep as Her Majesty The Queen delivers her State banquet speech…

What do you expect? If he’s not talking or if the speaker is not praising him, he’s bored and has no interest in the conversation.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:26:19pm

re: #58 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t think I’ve ever once seen Trump look happy, personable or comfortable when making public appearances. He always look stilted and awkward as fuck. Every smile forced, every hug insincere.

It’s the moment when he’s most forcibly confronted with the fact of other people in the world.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:26:37pm

re: #61 Hecuba’s daughter

He just can’t function when he’s 1000s of miles away from Fox News and his base.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:29:38pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:30:24pm

re: #62 jaunte

It’s the moment when he’s most forcibly confronted with the fact of other people in the world.

He’s the ultimate solipsist — he does not believe that anything exists outside of himself; he is the only reality and we are here only to entertain him.

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MsJ  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:32:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:33:02pm

re: #55 jaunte

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the comment that triggered some people:

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:34:14pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Put on the Ritz”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:35:16pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

U.S. District Judge Trevor N. McFadden wrote in 24 page opinion: “While the Constitution bestows upon Members of the House many powers, it does not grant them standing to hale the Executive Branch into court claiming a
dilution of Congress’s legislative authority.

Spencer Hsu

This is what happens when Federalist Society members are given judicial appointments. IANAL, but I am sure that he would have taken the opposite position if the President were a Democrat and the House were Republican.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:36:30pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:40:55pm

re: #70 jaunte

Trump would never allow someone to be honest with him the way a tailor would have to be. He just wants people who will tell him he looks great no matter what kind of shit sandwich he throws on.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:41:54pm
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jaunte  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:42:24pm

re: #71 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah, I can’t imagine him listening to anyone’s advice.

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retired cynic  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:48:26pm

re: #49 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I don’t normally do fashion or fat-shaming but, holy-moly, Trump looks awful. He seems entirely unaware of it, too, striding in as though he owned the place.

From Facebook:

Jim Wright
51 mins *
Edit: For fuck’s sake, People. I was commenting on his APPAREL, not his body. This guy is a head of state, the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. He claims to be a billionaire. You’d think they could find a decent tailor. Instead, he looks like he’s going as an orca for Halloween at the Palace in a costume his mom made. You ought to know me well enough by now to know I wouldn’t body shame people, even Trump. Goddamn. Why in the hell do we have to do this bullshit every single damned time?
___________
He looks like PETA should be protesting his daily performances at Sea World.
He’s ridiculous. I swear, he looks like he’s wearing one of those novelty T-shirts with a tux printed on it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:52:22pm

he makes a toast:

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makeitstop  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:57:07pm

re: #58 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t think I’ve ever once seen Trump look happy, personable or comfortable when making public appearances. He always looks stilted and awkward as fuck. Every smile forced, every hug insincere.

Even George W. Bush at least managed to appear personable sometimes.

Except for that one time with Putin, when his face lit up like somebody dumped a wheelbarrow full of 100 dollar bills at his feet.

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wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2019 • 3:59:12pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2019 • 4:03:25pm

They can read each other’s minds.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 3, 2019 • 4:08:35pm

re: #77 wrenchwench

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Basil A. Smikle PhD
@BasilSmiklePhD
After 37 years teaching there. Man that process is tough. Jimmy Carter granted tenure at Emory University

Proud alum. I was there when he was first given….NO, I graduated twenty, no, maybe 10 years ago….

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retired cynic  Jun 3, 2019 • 4:23:41pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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jet lag?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 4:25:53pm

re: #80 retired cynic

jet lag?

naw…he haz the SuperStamina!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 4:27:46pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2019 • 4:29:25pm

re: #80 retired cynic

jet lag?

Meds wore off.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2019 • 4:30:17pm

not again

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 4:32:34pm

re: #83 Eclectic Cyborg

Meds wore off.

or started to kick in

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 4:38:38pm

O_o

there’s lots more in the thread

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2019 • 4:51:00pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2019 • 4:54:56pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 3, 2019 • 4:58:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:01:42pm
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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:05:55pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:08:07pm

re: #89 goddamnedfrank

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What the fuck is with his eyes? He looks demonic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:11:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:15:24pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:15:53pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

They were so polite while dissing Trump. Lol. True Canadians.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:17:01pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:21:09pm
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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:22:02pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:23:28pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:24:21pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

I see Brainless the Second has the same tailor as Brainless.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:25:53pm

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

Remember when Conservatives used to make a huge fuss about every single trip the Obamas took because of the tax payer $$$? Now it’s crickets when Trump and his kids cost taxpayers millions of dollars above the norm.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:26:49pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:28:23pm

re: #98 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

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He’s read it in bed, but then there wouldn’t be any room on his bedside table for his book of Hitler’s speeches.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:29:14pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:29:50pm

Here’s a real man. A real man that’s been married once, to the same woman for 23 years. A real man that’s been compared to Satan because he wanted to see that every American would have some form of health insurance so that they would never go bankrupt. He also wears clothes that fit, and looks pretty damn good doing it.

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wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:31:05pm

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Last week, it was reported that the New York Times banned reporters from Rachel Maddow’s show for being ‘too partisan.’ ]

Is there any context in which ‘too partisan’ doesn’t mean, ‘to the wrong side’?

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:34:19pm

re: #105 Ace Rothstein

Most of all, President Obama looks happy and satisfied with his life. Trump not so much.

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sagehen  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:34:54pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I like Kate’s dress. Of course, I almost always like Kate’s dresses.

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sagehen  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:38:10pm

re: #99 The Vicious Babushka

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:39:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:42:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:44:44pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

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and what’s up with Ivanka’s fancy sleeves?

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MsJ  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:49:52pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

and what’s up with Ivanka’s fancy sleeves?

It looks like a denim dress. Walmart couture.

And Tiffany is starting to look…bigger.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:50:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:50:58pm

re: #114 MsJ

It looks like a denim dress. Walmart couture.

And Tiffany is starting to look…bigger.

I mean Ivanka’s sleeves look like one of those puppy pictures where one ear is up and the other is flopped over

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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:51:51pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:52:37pm

re: #114 MsJ

It looks like a denim dress. Walmart couture.

And Tiffany is starting to look…bigger.

I think Tiffany looks like Bette Davis in Jezebel

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:54:27pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:55:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:56:04pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:58:01pm

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

I mean Ivanka’s sleeves look like one of those puppy pictures where one ear is up and the other is flopped over

Those are Bows on her sleeves. That’s kind of a “signature” thing for her.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:59:00pm

re: #122 The Vicious Babushka

Those are Bows on her sleeves. That’s kind of a “signature” thing for her.

but one is up and the other one is falling down

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:59:14pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 3, 2019 • 5:59:45pm

I wonder if Trump farted out loud at the dinner.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:01:16pm

re: #125 Ace Rothstein

I wonder if Trump farted out loud at the dinner.

maybe that’s what snapped him awake…

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stpaulbear  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:02:38pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chuck Schumer

@SenSchumer
President @realDonaldTrump, you’re clearly confused. The Senate passed the bill two weeks ago. Hopefully after blocking it for so long, you’re not too confused to sign it!

I bet Trump was expecting a republican senator to put another block on it.

I bet he’ll find a (really bad) excuse to not sign it now that the bill is in his court.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:03:21pm

I think I know where Rachel is going with this Qatar lead in.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:05:32pm

re: #128 Ace Rothstein

I think I know where Rachel is going with this Qatar lead in.

the multi-million dollar hotel bill for this state visit

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Stanley Sea  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:06:35pm

re: #17 calochortus

I could be wrong here, but I don’t think Melania’s gloves fit right either. All that rumpled glove along the lower arm and loose-looking top at her elbows? I don’t think so.
They just don’t do real formal, do they?

Her neckline was tasteless. Flames from boobs. Gloves do not save the Hollywood vixen look.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:07:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:09:53pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:11:28pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

By design. The misery is the point.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:11:32pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:13:58pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:16:28pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

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OMG. That looks like a cattle trailer.

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Skip Intro  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:19:13pm

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:19:40pm
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Belafon  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:19:56pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:21:41pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:23:39pm

re: #98 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

What make it even more of an anti-Trump trolling exercise is that Churchill’s story of WWII is the story of the military defeat of the kinds of people Trump looks up to.

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:29:39pm

James Holzhauer, the guy who was winning big every Jeopardy game, lost today, just a few thousand shy if Ken Jennings’ record: washingtonpost.com. During his run, he averages $77K per day in winnings.

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EPR-radar  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:30:23pm

re: #139 Belafon

Contemplating the idea of US evangelicals meeting their eternal fate at the hands of an angry god of the Gospels and the Sermon on the Mount is a very entertaining pastime.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:33:06pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:33:13pm

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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:41:38pm
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Romantic Heretic  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:41:55pm

re: #76 makeitstop

Except for that one time with Putin, when his face lit up like somebody dumped a wheelbarrow full of 100 dollar bills at his feet.

Which Putin might have done at some point.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:44:13pm

Please help Michael get to 1619 RTs

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Interesting Times  Jun 3, 2019 • 6:47:09pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

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I read that article, and no, it doesn’t say “end of the world”, it says “end of human civilization.” I don’t consider the terms synonymous. Human civilization can end without this species necessarily going extinct (though one would assume that would happen sooner rather than later under the circumstances)

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2019 • 7:05:40pm

“The planet is fine. The people are fucked.” - George Carlin

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2019 • 7:09:13pm
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Romantic Heretic  Jun 3, 2019 • 7:10:43pm

re: #149 Interesting Times

It wouldn’t surprise me.

Civilization, that is large, wealthy, multi-cultural and ethnic socio-political groupings, are a very recent thing and human beings aren’t adapted for it.

Humans were evolved to live in troops that wandered around hunting-gathering. All the ret of the stuff we’ve created since and including agriculture makes most of us nervous,

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2019 • 7:11:37pm

re: #149 Interesting Times

I read that article, and no, it doesn’t say “end of the world”, it says “end of human civilization.” I don’t consider the terms synonymous. Human civilization can end without this species necessarily going extinct (though one would assume that would happen sooner rather than later under the circumstances)

Just like Pharoahs and emperors of antiquity had their soldiers and servants entombed along with them to accompany them in the afterlife, Trump can’t imagine human life continuing on after his bucket kick. So the last item on his “bucket list” is “Destroy Humanity”

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Citizen K  Jun 3, 2019 • 7:12:28pm

WWE has some damn issues all over, and is on the approach to one of its ill-gotten Saudi shows this weekend. But that doesn’t mean that individual guys aren’t worth getting behind. Such is Mustafa Ali, who is one of the guys who comes from a background as a former police officer in Detroit. His view on matters is…worth noting.

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retired cynic  Jun 3, 2019 • 7:13:17pm

Speaking of antiquity: Driftglass has one of his most entertaining columns disemboweling George Will:

driftglass.blogspot.com

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wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2019 • 7:13:33pm

re: #153 The Vicious Babushka

Just like Pharoahs and emperors of antiquity had their soldiers and servants entombed along with them to accompany them in the afterlife, Trump can’t imagine human life continuing on after his bucket kick. So the last item on his “bucket list” is “Destroy Humanity”

YOU’RE FIRED!

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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2019 • 7:15:46pm

re: #149 Interesting Times

I read that article, and no, it doesn’t say “end of the world”, it says “end of human civilization.” I don’t consider the terms synonymous. Human civilization can end without this species necessarily going extinct (though one would assume that would happen sooner rather than later under the circumstances)

Even that’s an exaggeration, tbh. Human civilization isn’t going to end that quickly, but if we continue on our current course it will change into something very bad.

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Interesting Times  Jun 3, 2019 • 7:15:52pm

And continuing with that theme:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2019 • 7:16:31pm

Hell, I’m surprised Tiffany even got an invite.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 3, 2019 • 7:20:49pm

Thread

Reply

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 3, 2019 • 7:25:29pm

re: #160 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

American exceptionalism.
/

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2019 • 7:26:47pm

re: #161 Ace Rothstein

American exceptionalism.
/

If it were easy, it wouldn’t be worth it. /////////

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2019 • 7:35:14pm

re: #160 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This makes me so fucking angry.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2019 • 7:38:56pm

Here is a Climate Change flow chart I just put together.

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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2019 • 7:39:06pm

re: #163 Eclectic Cyborg

This makes me so fucking angry.

My credit is still in the shitter because I had to have an appendectomy eight years ago and I didn’t have health insurance. Healthcare in the United States is a sick fucking joke.

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KGxvi  Jun 3, 2019 • 7:39:47pm

re: #159 Eclectic Cyborg

Hell, I’m surprised Tiffany even got an invite.

Maybe Donald is hoping to marry her off to some princeling in order to create a new alliance?

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KGxvi  Jun 3, 2019 • 7:42:43pm

re: #138 goddamnedfrank

Well, there is, as Robert Mueller pointed out this weekend, a constitutional provision that could be used to deal with this particular issue.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2019 • 7:50:03pm
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retired cynic  Jun 3, 2019 • 7:56:11pm
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Skip Intro  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:01:35pm

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:09:55pm

Not feeling it, Bishop:

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:12:50pm
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mmmirele  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:13:12pm

re: #160 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

When I was in Japan, I regaled the Aussies on the tour with me (I was the only non-Aussie) with tales of the shitshow that is American healthcare. I explained that my brother and I have an agreement to drive each other to the ER, because calling an ambulance is too expensive and not covered completely by insurance. I think I made them feel better about their insurance scheme.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:13:27pm

Mile 3,275: De Soto, Iowa.

My wife and I spent the last two days in Chicago visiting with my mother and step-father.

My step-father is still in the hospital with the infection which has dogged him for months, segregated so his infection won’t spread. Visiting required putting on special clothes. He’s gone from 300+ pounds to 140 pounds in that time (at 6’2”). I will be surprised if he can rally from this.

My mother is already upside-down on medical bills. My step-father was a Chicago schoolteacher, but the deductibles on the insurance have already left my mother severely in debt which she cannot pay. Her debt is already as much as our house is worth. Neither my sister nor me have the kind of money it would take to bail them out.

We will be home either tomorrow evening or the day after.

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sagehen  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:13:48pm

So apparently Forbes is calling Jay-Z the first hip-hop billionaire, and… I thought Dr Dre was already a billionaire several years ago? From selling Beats to Apple???

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:14:37pm

re: #171 Belafon

Not feeling it, Bishop:

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Hey Bishop Strickland: None of that is in the Gospels. Next time ask an atheist about what’s there, since you haven’t read the Gospels. You’re welcome.

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retired cynic  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:15:09pm

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹

I am so very sorry!

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sagehen  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:16:33pm

re: #171 Belafon

Not feeling it, Bishop:

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I seem to recall the Bible had a lot to say about welcoming refugees. Also, feeding the hungry, housing the homeless, healing the sick.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:17:11pm

re: #177 retired cynic

I am so very sorry!

My step-father is over eighty and diabetic. Severe illness is unfortunately part of ageing, but he has diabetes and was not doing proper foot care, which started all this.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:19:03pm

re: #178 sagehen

I seem to recall the Bible had a lot to say about welcoming refugees. Also, feeding the hungry, housing the homeless, healing the sick.

And taking your unruly children to the edge of town and stoning them to death, &c. There’s a lot of awful stuff in the New Testament as well. None of the stuff the Bishop up there mentioned though in the Gospels.

As I recall from reading the Bible, Jesus had diddly to say about gays and marriage.

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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:20:39pm

re: #175 sagehen

So apparently Forbes is calling Jay-Z the first hip-hop billionaire, and… I thought Dr Dre was already a billionaire several years ago? From selling Beats to Apple???

I saw that too, and I thought the exact same thing.

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retired cynic  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:21:05pm

re: #179 Anymouse 🌹

My step-father is over eighty and diabetic. Severe illness is unfortunately part of ageing, but he has diabetes and was not doing proper foot care, which started all this.

A diabetic not tending his special foot care requirements can usually expect to be gone before this time. I still feel very sorry for your mother, facing what she has. IMO, her only option is to let it pile up and then declare bankruptcy for health expense reasons.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:29:22pm

re: #182 retired cynic

A diabetic not tending his special foot care requirements can usually expect to be gone before this time. I still feel very sorry for your mother, facing what she has. IMO, her only option is to let it pile up and then declare bankruptcy for health expense reasons.

What a country, eh? Bankrupt people at the end of their lives.

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retired cynic  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:33:45pm

re: #183 Anymouse 🌹

What a country, eh? Bankrupt people at the end of their lives.

yeah

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rhuarc  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:34:38pm

re: #175 sagehen

So apparently Forbes is calling Jay-Z the first hip-hop billionaire, and… I thought Dr Dre was already a billionaire several years ago? From selling Beats to Apple???

I believe in the end Dre only ended up with around $800 million from the sale of Beats. So technically didn’t reach the billion mark in wealth.

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danarchy  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:35:46pm

re: #183 Anymouse 🌹

What a country, eh? Bankrupt people at the end of their lives.

This is actually a little surprising to me. When my dad had his aneurysm he spent over a month in the icu and the better part of a year in a long term care facility. I asked my mom if she needed any help with bills. She said between medicare and the tufts supplemental insurance she had almost no out of pocket expenses. Which is good because the copies of the bills they sent her added up to close to a million bucks.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:35:48pm

I did have some banking difficulty on our trip to Massachusetts.

It seems a lot of banks, gas stations and such in Ontario and New England will only take bank ATM cards which have embedded chips.

My dinky bank in Nebraska doesn’t do that, so getting money as required during our trip was sometimes difficult (driving from bank to bank trying my card).

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retired cynic  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:37:59pm

re: #186 danarchy

That’s why I make sure to have a good supplemental policy to Medicare. Without it, I’d be doomed.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:42:19pm

Same day, two different stores.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:46:50pm

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
Slightly positive note: It’s for pieces of bone, not the plague

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:50:02pm

(with video, 0:37)

George Nader, a Lebanese American businessman with links to associates of President Trump, has been arrested on a charge of transporting child pornography. (more)

thehill.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:53:46pm

re: #189 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The racist apologists are all over that thread.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 3, 2019 • 8:59:06pm
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Belafon  Jun 3, 2019 • 9:04:09pm
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LastYearsMan  Jun 3, 2019 • 9:06:26pm

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Those NYT rules are for journalists. Brooks is a columnist.

Still stupid to appear on a shitty propaganda outlet like RT though.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 3, 2019 • 9:09:11pm
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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  Jun 3, 2019 • 9:16:37pm

What happened to her nose?

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 3, 2019 • 9:17:45pm

re: #197 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

Her entire face has been botoxed, etc.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2019 • 9:33:49pm

re: #171 Belafon

Not feeling it, Bishop:

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The holy man is getting ratioed pretty good on that one.

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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2019 • 9:35:12pm

Oy. THAT was an … Interesting (////////////////!) night at the hotel. I’m done at 10. 15 minutes before, our most problem child guest gets home from her shift as a nurse and her door is open.

BOOM. In the room next door to the corporate inspector that arrived tonight. My head hurts.

Hour and a half later, she’s in a different room, feeling secure again, I and my coworker have turned in incident reports. I forgot to punch out (remembered as I walked in the house, I’ll correct it when I work again Thursday.) and I have a cold beer and full shot glass in front of me. I do not need nights like this.

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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2019 • 9:37:58pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2019 • 9:40:25pm

re: #195 LastYearsMan

Those NYT rules are for journalists. Brooks is a columnist.

Still stupid to appear on a shitty propaganda outlet like RT though.

Why is it stupid? They’re on the same team.

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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2019 • 9:59:30pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2019 • 10:05:18pm

Wonkette is being sued by Don Blankenship.

‘Elp! ‘Elp! Wonkette Being Sued By This 40-Millionaire!

Your Wonkette, despite many threats from bad and crazy people, has never actually been sued. Until today! According to Don Blankenship’s lawyers, we have conspired with Mitch McConnell, Fox Judge Andrew Napolitano, and Don Trump Jr., along with possibly hundreds of other news outlets both progressive and reactionary, to defame and libel and false-light-invasion-of-privacy Mr. Blankenship because one time, by accident, after he lost his race for the Republican West Virginia gubernatorial primary, we mistakenly referred to him as a felon, instead of carefully noting (as we had a dozen times previously) that he was convicted and spent a year in jail for misdemeanor conspiracy leading to the deaths of 29 miners in his employ. I pride myself on carefully weighing Wonkette’s terrible words and ensuring (with my 28 years in the news profession oh LORD I am forty-six years old) that everything we assert is both factual and fair. This was my fault as editor, nobody else’s, no ifs ands or buts.

If I could, though, I’d blame President Obama, just as Blankenship’s lawsuit blames him for those miners’ deaths.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 3, 2019 • 10:10:32pm
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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  Jun 3, 2019 • 10:19:34pm

re: #205 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Faces you can trust.

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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2019 • 10:20:31pm

re: #203 teleskiguy

Princess Elizabeth aka Subaltern Windsor as a mechanic in WWII.

Real work with her hands. Something alien to the mango moron.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2019 • 10:31:53pm

I’m off to bed. More driving tomorrow. We’re still over six hundred miles from home.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  Jun 3, 2019 • 10:35:01pm

So far the pre-markets are looking optimistic that Trump isn’t going to shit on anything important right off the bat this morning.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 3, 2019 • 10:41:01pm

Trump’s inauguration as President of the United States

somebody please get back from the future and save us from the biffco timeline

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  Jun 3, 2019 • 10:41:02pm

They don’t have anywhere in Japan to fire their artillery 25 kilometers.

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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2019 • 11:29:17pm

Probably a good time for blather since no one is here. I got to thinking about my top 10 westerns…

1) High Noon
2) Shane
3) The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
4) The Searchers
5) A Fistful of Dollars
6) Stagecoach
7) For A Few Dollars More
8) True Grit (Wayne Version)
9) She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
10) The Magnificent Seven

I just wonder sometimes what that says about me…

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  Jun 3, 2019 • 11:30:39pm
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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2019 • 11:33:04pm

re: #213 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

Nope. Breaks and fails in it’s purpose too much. It may eventually do that but the next gen of weapons? I’d bet millions against that because I know guns AND computers. :D

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  Jun 3, 2019 • 11:46:28pm

The Navy wants a 120 mile “No Fly Zone” around Clear Air Force Station to protect pilots from electromagnetic radiation from their early warning radar. Inverse-square law…

microwaved to death in a minute at 15 miles?

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  Jun 3, 2019 • 11:49:12pm

7:48 in London, almost time for Trump’s morning piss tweets.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 4, 2019 • 12:15:17am

Feelin’ cynical .

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teleskiguy  Jun 4, 2019 • 12:20:10am

re: #212 William Lewis

Where’s The Wild Bunch? The Outlaw Josie Wales? Tombstone? Unforgiven?

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 4, 2019 • 12:22:56am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 12:23:14am

re: #218 teleskiguy

Where’s The Wild Bunch? The Outlaw Josie Wales? Tombstone? Unforgiven?

and the Coen Brothers’ True Grit deserves an honorable mention as well

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 4, 2019 • 12:24:18am

re: #28 Charles Johnson

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William Lewis  Jun 4, 2019 • 12:26:48am

re: #218 teleskiguy

Where’s The Wild Bunch? The Outlaw Josie Wales? Tombstone? Unforgiven?

Where they belong. Lower down the list… O_o

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William Lewis  Jun 4, 2019 • 12:28:40am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and the Coen Brothers’ True Grit deserves an honorable mention as well

Nope. It is very much closer to the original novel but I will say that wayne’s version is actually better. That movie is just not acceptable _to_me_ .

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teleskiguy  Jun 4, 2019 • 12:28:50am

re: #222 William Lewis

They’re all great. I suppose it’s a matter of humor and taste.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 12:29:05am

Watching those two now near-extinct yahoos remind me that it is not so much an ideology as a personality type that leads them to gravitate towards modern “conservative activism”: arrogant, domineering, attention-seeking, petty…and grifting.

The Right is a milieu in which their natural traits can let them thrive…until they see each other and a threat and start turning on themselves.

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William Lewis  Jun 4, 2019 • 12:29:52am

re: #224 teleskiguy

They’re all great. I suppose it’s a matter of humor and taste.

That is very true and it was part of my comment.

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sagehen  Jun 4, 2019 • 12:38:13am

re: #212 William Lewis

Probably a good time for blather since no one is here. I got to thinking about my top 10 westerns…

1) High Noon
2) Shane
3) The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
4) The Searchers
5) A Fistful of Dollars
6) Stagecoach
7) For A Few Dollars More
8) True Grit (Wayne Version)
9) She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
10) The Magnificent Seven

I just wonder sometimes what that says about me…

I got a special weakness for Young Guns (starring Emilio Estevez, Kiefer Sutherland, Lou Diamond Phillips, Charlie Sheen, Dermot Mulroney, Casey Siemaszko). Not what one would call critically acclaimed, but as a heterosexual female of the right age group when it was released…. like I said, I got a special weakness.

I also think of Thelma and Louise as a Western… the locations are classic cowboy flick, and that Thunderbird looks to me like a horse.

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  Jun 4, 2019 • 1:03:15am

PEOPLE I Love You 1968 HQ

Oh my, I remember liking this song. (I was young)

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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  Jun 4, 2019 • 1:04:30am

Johnny Winter - Rock And Roll, Hoochie Koo

I also liked this, redemption.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 4, 2019 • 1:06:17am
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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  Jun 4, 2019 • 1:19:24am

blowin’ his horn.

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teleskiguy  Jun 4, 2019 • 1:20:39am
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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  Jun 4, 2019 • 1:39:00am
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Dread Pirate Union Local 13  Jun 4, 2019 • 2:05:29am
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Teukka  Jun 4, 2019 • 2:20:14am

Watched episode episode 5 of “Chernobyl”, “Vichnaya Pamyat”. An episodes which looks at the aftermath of the disaster and retrospectives on what happen around 01:23:45 on the night of the 26th of April 1986. And the price Legasov paid for having tried to tell the truth.
😭

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 4, 2019 • 3:06:17am

Birds of a feather:

Nigel Farage DEFENDS Ann Widdecombe’s ‘poisonous’ claims about ‘gay conversion’

[…]

Ms Widdecombe was condemned by Stephen Fry and Strictly Come Dancing dancer Robin Windsor - whose show Ms Widdecombe appeared on in 2010.

Labour MP Chris Bryant, who is gay, said: “Every time she adds a little bit of this poison to the well another gay teenager will be bullied or harm him or herself.”

Yet Nigel Farage today defended his new MEP and said “science may provide all sorts of answers that you and I don’t know about”.

In a clash on ITV’s Good Morning Britain, he said: “Ann Widdecombe is a devout Christian and there is nothing wrong with that in my opinion.

[…]

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 4, 2019 • 3:07:52am

Trump UK visit: Labour calls US president ‘sexual predator’ and ‘racist’

It’s refreshing to see a political party willing to call Trump for what he is, in public.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 3:09:42am

re: #236 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Birds of a feather:

Nigel Farage DEFENDS Ann Widdecombe’s ‘poisonous’ claims about ‘gay conversion’

In a clash on ITV’s Good Morning Britain, he said: “Ann Widdecombe is a devout Christian and there is nothing wrong with that in my opinion.

And that is the ultimate defense for bigotry, racism, bullying and even sexual predation: “He/she is a devout Christian”.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 4, 2019 • 3:12:57am

re: #212 William Lewis

Probably a good time for blather since no one is here. I got to thinking about my top 10 westerns…

1) High Noon
2) Shane
3) The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
4) The Searchers
5) A Fistful of Dollars
6) Stagecoach
7) For A Few Dollars More
8) True Grit (Wayne Version)
9) She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
10) The Magnificent Seven

I just wonder sometimes what that says about me…

For one that you appear to not like the modern westerns that much, or as much as older classics. Two, you appear to like the lone hero against odds stuff.

I concur with those being a real good set of movies. I’d probably have “Once Upon A Time in the West” and “The Professionals” on my equivalent. And I would definitely pull “True Grit” since I can’t stand the girl. (And the son in “Shane” annoys me as well.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 3:28:22am

re: #239 Feline Fearless Leader

For one that you appear tp not like the modern westerns that much. Two, you appear to like the lone hero against odds stuff.

I concur with those being a real good set of movies. I’d probably have “Once Upon A Time in the West” and “The Professionals” on my equivalent. And I would definitely pull “True Grit” since I can’t stand the girl. (And the son in “Shane” annoys me as well.)

I really liked “The Outlaw Josie Wells” for its incredible equine stunt work (and I am not any sort of horsie fan) and for the way they handled their old Colt cap-and-ball pistols (an neither am I any sort of weapons aficionado, but I found it fascinating)

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 4, 2019 • 4:10:05am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I really liked “The Outlaw Josie Wells” for its incredible equine stunt work (and I am not any sort of horsie fan) and for the way they handled their old Colt cap-and-ball pistols (an neither am I any sort of weapons aficionado, but I found it fascinating)

It was interesting from a historical standpoint to see what was essentially light cavalry re-invent pistol tactics and prefer firearms over swords. This preference also pops up in other places like Mosby’s Rangers in the east. And in the movie there is the explicit contrast between Josie using pistols and Captain Terrill (Redlegs) with his saber.

I think Eastwood had a thing for featuring different styles of older firearms. His character in “Pale Rider” has a revolver for instance that reloads by replacing the entire cylinder.

en.wikipedia.org (17th century pistol-and-sword cavalry)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 4:12:55am

re: #241 Feline Fearless Leader

I think Eastwood had a thing for featuring different styles of older firearms. His character in “Pale Rider” has a revolver for instance that reloads by replacing the entire cylinder.

Although I am not a big fan of firearms, I even went down to our local gun club in Germany when they were having their Western Weekend and plunked down five euros so I could fire off a cap-and-ball pistol.

That was about eleven years ago. Last time I ever held or fired a weapon.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 4, 2019 • 4:19:23am

re: #242 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Although I am not a big fan of firearms, I even went down to our local gun club in Germany when they were having their Western Weekend and plunked down five euros so I could fire off a cap-and-ball pistol.

That was about eleven years ago. Last time I ever held or fired a weapon.

I have not been shooting in quite a while. Have not been hunting in well over 10 years and I think my deer rifle* is at my brother’s since I know I did not move it when I came to the Philadelphia area. Probably the last thing I fired was a pellet rifle or a .22 rim fire semi-automatic rifle up at his place.

* - Said rifle being my father’s before I was using it. A German KAR98 firing 8mm Mauser that has had the forestock cut down to lighten it and some other minor modifications. A good rifle for deer in western PA, but pretty much no historical value at this point.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 4:24:40am

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

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*snerk*

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 4:39:01am

I get the feeling that the whole Royal Family is in on a little contest to see who can troll and goad Trump along the farthest until he totally froths over…

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 4, 2019 • 4:44:50am

I think I have seen this in a movie. Grindr date goes bad.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 4, 2019 • 4:46:01am

What all the photos are showing me is that the Trumps trying to be elegant, sophisticated, and upper class is simply a massive failure since they appear to just not get it. And the British royals are too polite to openly laugh in their faces about it.

And it appears that the British public (and us on this side who are looking at it) are seeing the Trumps as a bunch of boorish wannabes on a family vacation at US taxpayer expense.*

* - I recall there being comments in the past about Trump wanting acceptance by the NYC society. The group he is interacting with now is a whole level past that, and not buying it either.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 4:48:26am

re: #247 Feline Fearless Leader

What all the photos are showing me is that the Trumps trying to be elegant, sophisticated, and upper class is simply a massive failure since they appear to just not get it. And the British royals are too polite to openly laugh in their faces about it.

This is a man who called Meghan nasty (and then denied it) and also bragged about how he could have totally nailed Diana.

They have no reason to treat him with any personal respect, only to the degree accorded to him by his office of POTUS. And they are clearly keeping that to a minimum.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 4:56:45am
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Alephnaught  Jun 4, 2019 • 5:01:57am

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

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More here.

Oh! That’s George Square in Glasgow!

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jeffreyw  Jun 4, 2019 • 5:06:11am

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 5:09:00am

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nice picture of the Beast. And the President’s car…

I am sure that some terrorist is already figuring how to attach sufficient amounts of explosives to Larry for the next visit…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 5:12:19am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 5:14:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 5:17:26am
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Decatur Deb  Jun 4, 2019 • 5:21:35am

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

Donald Trump met the Queen and all we can see is his neck fanny

Note all: “Fanny” in British slang is the exact anatomical opposite of US slang.

Off to get the new hip in a couple hours. Not likely to have computer or suitable mood for chatter.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 5:22:35am

re: #256 Decatur Deb

Note all: “Fanny” in British slang is the exact anatomical opposite of US slang.

Off To get the new hip in a couple hours. Not likely to have computer or suitable mood or chatter.

all the best and a speedy recovery

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 5:24:23am

moron is so full of shit

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 5:25:39am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 5:27:52am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 5:34:54am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2019 • 5:43:33am

re: #28 Charles Johnson

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That ranks right up there with the immortal Dynasty fight between Alexis and Krystle…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 5:43:55am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2019 • 5:45:40am

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is so full of shit

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I’m just waiting for Ben Garrison to draw his God as a muscle hunk in white tie and tails…or that deluded McNaughton to paint him in a stars and stripes tux…

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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 4, 2019 • 5:46:42am

I must still be a little sleepy and hungry this early. I read the topic as

Every Picture Tells A Story, Donut

Yikes 14 hour days are cutting my sleep a bit short.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2019 • 5:49:39am

There’s just something about seeing a White Trash couple at a White Tie event…

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 4, 2019 • 6:34:27am

So, over at WeHuntedtheMammoth dot com, David Futrelle has a great post about the ebil geniubus, seb gorka (not a Ph.D.). Seems the gorkster was taken in by this parody Nintendo twitter account and riled up all the right whinging gamer assholes out in intertubes land.

Sebastian Gorka — former White House security adviser turned freelance Trump bootlicker — has a reputation on the right as some sort of brain genius. But he’s also, it turns out, as gullible as any Facebook MAGA grandpa.

Earlier today, Gorka riled up his fans with a tweet blasting Nintendo for celebrating #PrideMonth by posting an image of Mario and his brother Luigi kissing, accusing the Japanese video game giant of “promoting incest.”

gorka is a idiot.
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2019 • 6:40:56am

re: #267 Colère Tueur de Lapin

So, over at WeHuntedtheMammoth dot com, David Futrelle has a great post about the ebil geniubus, seb gorka (not a Ph.D.). Seems the gorkster was taken in by this parody Nintendo twitter account and riled up all the right whinging gamer assholes out in intertubes land.

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Must fight urge to go to McDonalds and buy a half dozen milkshakes…

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2019 • 6:50:13am

I saw how much more comfortable Trump was around May and thought about how losers tend to migrate together.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 6:51:37am

re: #269 Belafon

I saw how much more comfortable Trump was around May and thought about how losers tend to migrate together.

She is on her last legs and perhaps he realizes that he is, too (we can only hope), just living on borrowed time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 6:51:39am

omg…it’s even more grotesque in motion

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2019 • 6:52:19am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

omg…it’s even more grotesque in motion

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President Creosote.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 6:53:36am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 6:53:46am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

omg…it’s even more grotesque in motion

Is this the male equivalent of a size 44 woman trying to stuff herself into a size 39 dress?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 6:54:54am

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

Prince Harry does not look amused

about a guy who once bragged publicly about how he could have totally nailed his mom?

he is being civil above and beyond the call of duty

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 6:55:37am
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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 4, 2019 • 6:56:44am

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He probably figures Brexit is just a ways south of NYC on the NJ turnpike when you head for Atlantic City.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 6:58:05am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 6:59:32am
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Belafon  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:01:57am

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

England really shouldn’t want to become the 51st state.

Also, can we get videos of the exploding heads of those who voted for Brexit on the promise that health care would improve?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:10:00am

re: #280 Belafon

England really shouldn’t want to become the 51st state.

Also, can we get videos of the exploding heads of those who voted for Brexit on the promise that health care would improve?

If Trump could not kill ACA in America, he will be happy to go down in history as the one to put the final nail in the coffin of the NHS

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:16:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:17:33am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

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junior’s arms are so weird

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:18:08am

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

junior’s arms are so weird

Slenderdon

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:19:57am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:21:40am

Narrator’s Voice: trump isn’t familiar with what anything is

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:21:52am

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

TRUMP on Brexit: “Something will take place in the not too distant future.”

and when something does take place, he can claim credit for having predicted it

genius

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:25:01am

fucking clueless

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:26:16am

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

Donald Trump now says Theresa May has “done a very good job” preparing the country for leaving the EU

Yes, she has left everything a shambles and walked away, his idea of a “very good job”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:28:47am
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Belafon  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:28:48am

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

fucking clueless

“You, as Britains, have finally gottan a taste of what if feels like to be rudderless, and not understand where you’re going in the future.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:29:43am

these people are nutz

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:31:48am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:32:13am

re: #289 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, she has left everything a shambles and walked away, his idea of a “very good job”.

Yeah well, that’s what he does.

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Targetpractice  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:32:28am

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

these people are nutz

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Donny falling back on old habits: When the other party won’t bend to your demands, threaten to sue them and expect that to work. When it doesn’t, quietly drop the matter and then bullshit people years later about how you “won.”

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Mescalero09  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:33:15am

Last three years headlines in nutshell.
President of US shits self in public.
World pretends not to notice.
Just another day in Disney.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:34:02am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:35:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:35:54am
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Eventual Carrion  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:36:03am

re: #214 William Lewis

Nope. Breaks and fails in it’s purpose too much. It may eventually do that but the next gen of weapons? I’d bet millions against that because I know guns AND computers. :D

Clippy shows up, “I see the enemy is closing in, would you like to log into your weapon?”. “Sorry, I cannot recognize your mud smeared face. Please try again later.”

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retired cynic  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:36:53am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump Jr is supposed to be an independent businessman running the Trump organization, completely walled off the the Trump administration

How can people with that much money look that bad in clothes that are supposedly tailored to make the figure look attractive????

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:37:59am

re: #301 retired cynic

How can people with that much money look that bad in clothes that are supposedly tailored to make the figure look attractive????

this is what happens when one starts with substandard raw materials…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:38:24am

re: #301 retired cynic

How can people with that much money look that bad in clothes that are supposedly tailored to make the figure look attractive????

did they order them on-line from Ivanka’s line of gentlemen’s evening wear?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:39:15am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:41:19am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:42:00am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

Does no one in that family know how to wear clothes?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:42:36am

re: #306 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Does no one in that family know how to wear clothes?

Just how to have them manufactured abroad and imported.

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sagehen  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:43:22am

GHWB had 89% approval overall, not just among Republicans, immediately after Gulf War I.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:43:44am

re: #233 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

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What’s Cheech Marin doing there?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:51:14am
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:53:15am
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gocart mozart  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:55:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 7:59:41am

thread starts with this:

ends with this:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:01:14am

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

So does it hurt Farage or help him if he gets booted out?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:01:35am
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gocart mozart  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:03:03am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:04:57am

re: #314 Eclectic Cyborg

So does it hurt Farage or help him if he gets booted out?

I have no idea.

I do know that Arron Banks’ insurance company would benefit greatly if NHS is dumped.

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lizardofid  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:05:32am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If “both sides “negotiate about what should and should not be on the table”, doesn’t that mean those things discussed are “on the table”?

Oh, good morning everyone!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:06:51am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:07:26am

re: #314 Eclectic Cyborg

So does it hurt Farage or help him if he gets booted out?

He will claim a witch hunt and come up with dozens of similar cases involving EP ministers that did not get kicked out…

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gocart mozart  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:08:55am
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:14:41am

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

Farage is yer another rightwing scumbag. It’s all a huge grift for them.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:15:56am

re: #320 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He will claim a witch hunt and come up with dozens of similar cases involving EP ministers that did not get kicked out…

He will play the victim card for all it’s worth and Screwpert Murdoch’s Bullshit Machine will hype it 24/7!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:17:50am

Washington Post now reporting that Trump has told Hope Hicks not to cooperate with Congressional investigations and ignore the subpoena…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:18:16am

Currently working on a page about the 30th Anniversary of Tiananmen.

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lawhawk  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:18:39am

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s been clear since forever that Trump doesn’t know what the fuck he’s talking about, including his supposed core knowledge base of real estate.

Trump knows only that something does or doesn’t benefit him personally and bluffs and bullshits his way through life.

NHS doesn’t affect trade one iota. It’s the UK’s health service. It’s also the key lie behind the Brexit vote.

The leavers wanted people to believe the lie that leaving the EU would somehow fund the NHS to the tune of hundreds of millions of pounds annually.

It was a lie, one that Boris Johnson is now being sued over in fact.

The entire Brexit was based on a lie, and the only ones who benefit from this shitshow are the Russians who get chaos among their European rivals and have Trump winging in with his own nonsensical takes for no extra cost.

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wrenchwench  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:24:43am

Have you ever been scrolling down a thread, drinking a cup of coffee, and been hit with a big sneeze, too suddenly to set the cup down, and in the attempt not to spill, ended up with coffee all over your elbow?

I have.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:26:03am

re: #327 wrenchwench

When that happened to me it was OJ, not coffee.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:26:23am

re: #325 Eclectic Cyborg

Currently working on a page about the 30th Anniversary of Tiananmen.

So I was up near the East German border 30 years ago, watching the East German TV cover the uprisings. Using coverage released by the Chinese authorities, I can assume.

I noted that they never showed any banners or let you hear anything they were chanting, just shouting faces and a voice-over describing them as counter-revolutionaries and cop killers.

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makeitstop  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:32:58am

Lawhawk, check it out! Manafort is being transferred to…Rikers! HAHAHA

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sagehen  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:33:27am

re: #329 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So I was up near the East German border 30 years ago, watching the East German TV cover the uprisings. Using coverage released by the Chinese authorities, I can assume.

I noted that they never showed any banners or let you hear anything they were chanting, just shouting faces and a voice-over describing them as counter-revolutionaries and cop killers.

And less than 6 months later, the wall came down.

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wrenchwench  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:33:31am

re: #329 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So I was up near the East German border 30 years ago, watching the East German TV cover the uprisings. Using coverage released by the Chinese authorities, I can assume.

I noted that they never showed any banners or let you hear anything they were chanting, just shouting faces and a voice-over describing them as counter-revolutionaries and cop killers.

I was in East(ern) Berlin a couple of years after the Wall was breached. Saw a TV in a bakery. Alf was speaking English with German subtitles.

Ed.:

Oh, sorry, ALF. I didn’t know it was an acronym. That was the only episode I ever watched.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:34:02am

re: #331 sagehen

And less than 6 months later, the wall came down.

yes, that was a shocker

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:34:50am

re: #332 wrenchwench

I was in East(ern) Berlin a couple of years after the Wall was breached. Saw a TV in a bakery. Alf was speaking English with German subtitles.

Better so, in German I just find him annoying and without any wit or redeeming qualities.

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gocart mozart  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:37:18am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:45:29am

re: #335 gocart mozart

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So Boris Epstein didn’t want to sing about his ding a ling…

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sagehen  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:46:03am

re: #335 gocart mozart

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Gosh. Almost like the whole Pizzagate was made up and spread so that when this story came out people would assume it was equally made-up.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:46:56am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:50:19am

re: #330 makeitstop

Lawhawk, check it out! Manafort is being transferred to…Rikers! HAHAHA

I’ve visited Rikers on several occasions, many decades ago.
To my knowledge, there hasn’t been any improvement

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lawhawk  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:51:26am

re: #330 makeitstop

Lawhawk, check it out! Manafort is being transferred to…Rikers! HAHAHA

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I saw that happening the morning.

Nice. I’ve never been, but the horror stories I’ve heard from people who work in the corrections system are enough to say that it’s not going to be pleasant for a coddled old codger like Manafort even if he’s in solitary for his own protection.

I’m surprised that they didn’t keep him in the Metropolitan Correctional Facility in Manhattan on the feds’ dime since he’s already serving time for the federal convictions and since it would reduce the travel between the court and the jail. Guess the feds wanted to show him how good he has it now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:52:13am

re: #340 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’ve visited Rikers on several occasions, many decades ago.
To my knowledge, there hasn’t been any improvement

25 great commander riker quotes

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:53:15am

re: #267 Colère Tueur de Lapin

So, over at WeHuntedtheMammoth dot com, David Futrelle has a great post about the ebil geniubus, seb gorka (not a Ph.D.). Seems the gorkster was taken in by this parody Nintendo twitter account and riled up all the right whinging gamer assholes out in intertubes land.

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Gorka and his followers want it to be true. That’s different from gullibility. They won’t back down from what they feel, and what they concluded, unless they get shamed.

Because if they treat it as true, then they get to feel heroic, and anyone they hate is that much more irredeemably depraved and thus deserving of no sympathy, no understanding, and no mercy.

Always…always…remember that these people operate with a completely different understanding of “truth” (epistemology) than everyone else. Things are “true” because treating them as “truth” has temporary utility for their self-gratification; when that utility expires then something else can be “true.” This is why ultimately, they’re nihilists and narcissists…they want to believe they believe things, but any time they take on a belief they hollow out the core premises that might restrict their selfishness and whim. The defining component of the US “right”—and in its most flagrant form, the open reactionaries—is this shallowness of thought. Ideas, ideologies, morals, trends exist to extract clout…and thus argument from authority…from.

ETA: hence the power of shame to make them back down, or at least stop articulating their specific claims. Since ideas only matter as units of clout, an idea that draws derision is quickly disavowed or concealed, ideally while claiming to have never actually held that idea (“I was just joking/being ironic/trolling/trying to trigger X”).

It’s an obvious parody account, but that doesn’t matter: they want to believe. The underlying assumption about society, culture that they project onto a tweet—they believe them to be True a priori, and are just seeking anything that’s homologous.

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lawhawk  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:56:18am

re: #342 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Fire at Will!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2019 • 8:57:02am

re: #331 sagehen

And less than 6 months later, the wall came down.

And a few months later, the Soviet Union fell. Also Khomeini died, Desert Storm. 1989-1991 was a really wild time for world politics.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:02:17am

re: #341 lawhawk

I saw that happening the morning.

Nice. I’ve never been, but the horror stories I’ve heard from people who work in the corrections system are enough to say that it’s not going to be pleasant for a coddled old codger like Manafort even if he’s in solitary for his own protection.

I’m surprised that they didn’t keep him in the Metropolitan Correctional Facility in Manhattan on the feds’ dime since he’s already serving time for the federal convictions and since it would reduce the travel between the court and the jail. Guess the feds wanted to show him how good he has it now.

With the constant sounds of arriving and departing jets he will be enduring, I wonder if these continue to loop in his head

John Denver - Leaving On A Jet Plane (Audio)

The Beatles - Back In The U.S.S.R. (2018 Mix / Lyric Video)

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plansbandc  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:02:42am

Good thread on military discipline…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:05:27am

re: #343 The Ghost of Quesos Past

Gorka and his followers want it to be true. That’s different from gullibility. They won’t back down from what they feel, and what they concluded, unless they get shamed.

When you are in possession of a “Higher Truth” then facts become malleable and fungible.

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sagehen  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:05:38am

re: #340 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’ve visited Rikers on several occasions, many decades ago.
To my knowledge, there hasn’t been any improvement

I visited Rikers once, just over 30 years ago. It was an absolutely delightful experience (not snark, it actually was truly delightful).

rollingstone.com

A busload of music press, we didn’t actually sit next to the inmates or have any chance to talk to them, but we were on the other side of the same room to watch the performance. It was a good show; and the acoustics were definitely very different from seeing PE at a club or stadium.

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Skip Intro  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:08:24am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

omg…it’s even more grotesque in motion

Trump walks like he’s on his way to his execution. If only.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:11:48am

Just in case you were wondering; no, the quote is not any better in context.

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gocart mozart  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:12:07am

re: #346 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Arlo Guthrie - Coming Into Los Angeles

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:15:06am

re: #351 Ace-o-aces

Just in case you were wondering; no, the quote is not any better in context.

Is Kruse suggesting we deal with the white terrorists harshly?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:17:24am

I’m a bit at a loss for words

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Sir John Barron  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:17:52am

re: #324 Joe Bacon 🌹

Washington Post now reporting that Trump has told Hope Hicks not to cooperate with Congressional investigations and ignore the subpoena…

Rule of Law, etc

/

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sagehen  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:18:02am

re: #347 plansbandc

Good thread on military discipline…

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There was another problem: What separated many of these operators from their less-virile counterparts on the American homefront was their capacity for horrifying brutality. As the cultural zeal for beards caught on back home, Afghan tribal leaders were advising locals to avoid bearded troops and deal with the clean-shaven ones, who were empirically less likely to mistreat them. The bearded operators, they said, were the raucous, profane ones who raided your home, searched your women without dignity, and snatched people away to indefinite detentions in arbitrary arrests. Even this could become a point of pride for the operators, who thrived on instilling fear, like the early Seals in Vietnam who reveled in their hoary local reputations as supernatural “men with green faces” who came to take enemies in the night. But in counterinsurgency—that already-paradoxical quest to win hearts and minds at the ends of rifle muzzles—such draconian tactics moot the strategy.

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:18:12am

re: #347 plansbandc

Good thread on military discipline…

That article is crap. Beards are just a reaction to the previous clean-shaven era. There was even a ST:TNG episode where the guys were growing beards and Beverly Crusher tried to get them to shave.

Now, beards in the military are a different thing.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:18:49am

re: #353 Belafon

Is Kruse suggesting we deal with the white terrorists harshly?

That’s Trump from a 1990 Playboy interview, just one year after the Tienanmen Square massacre.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:19:33am

re: #340 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’ve visited Rikers on several occasions, many decades ago.
To my knowledge, there hasn’t been any improvement

That is the antithesis of “A Hard Place”. Let that sink in for a minute. It was the best of times and the the worst of times..

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:19:58am

re: #358 Ace-o-aces

That’s Trump from a 1990 Playboy interview, just one year after the Tienanmen Square massacre.

OK. Thanks. Total lack of context on my part.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:20:13am

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

fucking clueless

May must have said something positive about Djt

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:22:13am

re: #351 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

Just in case you were wondering; no, the quote is not any better in context.

Wow, even then he had big, ugly ties.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:23:42am

re: #354 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m a bit at a loss for words

[Embedded content]

I’m not but most of them consist of four letters.

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makeitstop  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:25:11am

re: #349 sagehen

I visited Rikers once, just over 30 years ago. It was an absolutely delightful experience (not snark, it actually was truly delightful).

rollingstone.com

A busload of music press, we didn’t actually sit next to the inmates or have any chance to talk to them, but we were on the other side of the same room to watch the performance. It was a good show; and the acoustics were definitely very different from seeing PE at a club or stadium.

Wow, now that’s a once-in-a-lifetime show!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:25:29am

re: #357 Belafon

That article is crap. Beards are just a reaction to the previous clean-shaven era. There was even a ST:TNG episode where the guys were growing beards and Beverly Crusher tried to get them to shave.

Fun fact: That was added in because Levar Burton was getting married and wanted to grow his beard back for his wedding. Since the writers thought it would be weird to have Geordi randomly growing a beard, they added the subplot where the other guys were growing them too.

Personally, I prefer the way I look with facial hair vs. clean shaven.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:31:09am

re: #357 Belafon

That article is crap. Beards are just a reaction to the previous clean-shaven era. There was even a ST:TNG episode where the guys were growing beards and Beverly Crusher tried to get them to shave.

Now, beards in the military are a different thing.

some years ago, Conchita Wurst, an Austrian transvestite with a beard, son the Eurovision song contest. Out of protest and feigned moral revulsion, Russian men were encouraged by the media to start shaving their beards.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:31:56am

re: #357 Belafon

That article is crap. Beards are just a reaction to the previous clean-shaven era. There was even a ST:TNG episode where the guys were growing beards and Beverly Crusher tried to get them to shave.

Now, beards in the military are a different thing.

I started my beard while in the Navy in the early 1970s.

368
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:32:01am
369
Belafon  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:33:57am

re: #367 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I started my beard while in the Navy in the early 1970s.

When I was in in the 90s, we heard about the beard time. We were told they stopped it because of the gas masks, but we kind of knew it didn’t have anything to do with masks.

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wrenchwench  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:36:07am

re: #367 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I started my beard while in the Navy in the early 1970s.

Mr. w got out in 1969. Hasn’t shaved since.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:40:34am

re: #370 wrenchwench

Mr. w got out in 1969. Hasn’t shaved since.

So does he look like Santa Claus now?

/

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wrenchwench  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:43:48am

re: #371 Eclectic Cyborg

So does he look like Santa Claus now?

/

A few years ago, a kid riding in a shopping cart in Wal Mart saw Mr. w and gasped and said, ‘Santa!’ Mr. w went, ‘Shhhhh…’ and the kid smiled real big. He’s pretty skinny, though.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:46:35am

JFC “Most Transparent President In The History of Transparency!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:53:14am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:54:13am

re: #374 The Vicious Babushka

excuse me while I touch the sky…

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Jun 4, 2019 • 9:58:39am

re: #348 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When you are in possession of a “Higher Truth” then facts become malleable and fungible.

Fanatics—people who really believe something and rigidly operate within that framework—definitely exist, but many people who act out strong belief are in fact utterly full of shit. What you have to look at is the interaction, over time, between what they say they believe, what they do, and what they do when they’re caught between the former and the latter.

In the case of Gorka et al, I’d say the signs point to the second thing; they have no Higher Truth at all. They want power, and appropriate the thin exterior of belief—the buzzwords, the tropes, the rituals—to obtain power. Some are self-aware, and thus acting as cynics, some conflate narcissism and genuine belief…but many lack self-reflection and thus exist in a state of constant self-bullshitting. What the cynics and the bullshitters share is a recognize the utility of Higher Truth—big concepts like “God,” “family,” “freedom”—as a justification, but they in practice have no interest in actually defining those words, let alone generating a coherent worldview in which a big concept constrains their wants (or, more precisely, the emptiness inside them that requires a constant supply of new and varied forms of self-gratification).

(Also worth noting is that the line between cynicism, the vainglorious believers, and self-bullshitting is not a hard thing. Many people start off as one and then become the other.)

This is why—observing from the outside—there’s a fractal-like recursion across levels of magnification (from individuals to government to internationally) of exceptions to the inviolable rules that look like hypocrisy. They evoke big concepts and perform belief to the extent that they have utility in getting what they want. But any time a big concept might impose a constraint on their libertinism, they just ignore the big concept’s supposedly-solid rules, or claim the right to change the rules and declare the exceptions to the rules. This is also demonstrated in how often they argue—apply ideas in rhetoric—in bad faith.

What’s super fucked up is that fanatics, the cynics, and, erm, the full of shit go together really well, creating especially fucked-up social chimeras that channel their energy outwards, towards the common enemy…the rest of us human beings who stumble about trying to be good and trying to care about other people.

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retired cynic  Jun 4, 2019 • 10:14:22am

In case you hadn’t noticed, Illinois just passed recreational marijuana, beginning 1/1/2020 including both sale and possession. Polled very well during the gubernatorial campaign last year, and here we are!

It also expunges criminal records.

washingtonpost.com

So when the time comes, Imma gonna be asking for advice here!

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BlueGrl21  Jun 4, 2019 • 10:15:06am

re: #354 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m a bit at a loss for words

[Embedded content]

Huge, massive nope.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2019 • 10:15:12am

re: #376 The Ghost of Quesos Past

Fanatics—people who really believe something and rigidly operate within that framework—definitely exist, but many people who act out strong belief are in fact utterly full of shit. What you have to look at is the interaction, over time, between what they say they believe, what they do, and what they do when they’re caught between the former and the latter.

In the case of Gorka et al, I’d say the signs point to the second thing; they have no Higher Truth at all. They want power, and appropriate the thin exterior of belief—the buzzwords, the tropes, the rituals—to obtain power. Some are self-aware, and thus acting as cynics, some conflate narcissism and genuine belief…but many lack self-reflection and thus exist in a state of constant self-bullshitting..

On one hand you have the True Believers and on the other you have cynical manipulators. In between you have trolls and cynics and contrarians who just have fun getting people riled up and gaining attention.

And those people managed to gain enough mass in our body politic to take control of the Executive branch

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 10:19:14am
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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 4, 2019 • 10:21:34am

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Why do I get a bad vibe when I hear southern states talking about “public safety laws”?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 10:22:47am

re: #381 Feline Fearless Leader

Why do I get a bad vibe when I hear southern states talking about “public safety laws”?

I don’t think that will be a problem in this particular instance

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2019 • 10:24:26am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 4, 2019 • 10:27:44am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 4, 2019 • 10:29:18am

Leave it to the Chief Mouser for 10 Downing St to cause a ruckus…

USA Today: ‘Huge security issue’: Larry the Cat causes stir outside 10 Downing Street during Trump visit

Amid protests throughout London against President Donald Trump’s state visit to the United Kingdom, the “Chief Mouser” of 10 Downing Street held his own sit-in of sorts.

Larry the Cat, the feline who occupies the British government headquarters, was caught on camera Monday, spotted in the background of photographs and otherwise causing a stir.

One reporter covering the events outside 10 Downing Street shared a picture of Larry lying under Trump’s limo and staying put, jokingly calling it a “huge security issue.”

“Huge security issue as Larry the Downing St. cat shelters under Donald Trump’s limo ‘the Beast’ & refuses to move. #TrumpinUK,” wrote NBC News’ Bill Neely on Twitter.

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lizardofid  Jun 4, 2019 • 10:36:46am

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

“But his yearbook”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 4, 2019 • 10:39:35am

Winning

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lawhawk  Jun 4, 2019 • 10:44:52am

re: #383 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh, it’s totally clear.

Trump has no clue what he’s saying or what NHS.

Hint: it has precisely dick to do with trade.

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lawhawk  Jun 4, 2019 • 10:44:57am
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Belafon  Jun 4, 2019 • 10:48:32am

re: #389 lawhawk

Hopefully ex-teacher.

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lizardofid  Jun 4, 2019 • 10:52:00am

re: #390 Belafon

Hopefully ex-teacher.

I guess they’ll decide tonight.

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jeffreyw  Jun 4, 2019 • 10:52:23am

re: #377 retired cynic

In case you hadn’t noticed, Illinois just passed recreational marijuana, beginning 1/1/2020 including both sale and possession. Polled very well during the gubernatorial campaign last year, and here we are!

It also expunges criminal records.

washingtonpost.com

So when the time comes, Imma gonna be asking for advice here!

The bastards didn’t approve of home cultivation for what may be corrupt reasons. Maybe just loath to miss out on taxes. The bastards.

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Jun 4, 2019 • 11:05:58am

re: #379 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

On one hand you have the True Believers and on the other you have cynical manipulators. In between you have trolls and cynics and contrarians who just have fun getting people riled up and gaining attention.

And those people managed to gain enough mass in our body politic to take control of the Executive branch

I don’t think anyone at the top of the US right is a True Believer in anything.

The coalition of ideologies all include a base assumption that there is a natural hierarchy—spiritual, economic, racial, national—but in practice have to keep spinning exceptions and inventing new rhetoric because their practice (of religion, business, identity, etc) does not match their words. Trump is the hylic grail of this trend.

In turn, the “base” are mostly people that enjoy power…specifically abuse of power. Hence why they’ve all taken to Trump so readily—he provides them with gratification…no shit I’m taking power/sex pants tingle type gratification…and that’s all they want. They’ve been trained by years and years of culture to view that (pants) feeling as The Only Thing That Matters, and as The Good. The reactionary right and fascists are even more explicit about the self-gratification, pants-feeling benefits of their ideology. This is why I keep talking about deSade: these people are caught up in some intense power/sex stuff where the precise point of the fantasy is that they get to hurt people with no limits. They may dress it up in different terminology…incel, Rapture-ready, militia…but that’s costuming. The central theme of gratuitous violence is stable.

This is the completely natural follow-up to themes present in the different wings of “conservative” culture in the US. All produce pornography culture product that reinforces that there exists individuals deserving of suffering and cruelty, such that one should feel good about participating in cruelty.

Much like with most serial killers, there’s so much less than meets the eye to these people.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jun 4, 2019 • 11:38:08am

Apparently, there’s now such a thing as a “Straight Pride Parade” and people are calling it out on Twitter:


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