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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2019 • 6:17:53pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 10, 2019 • 6:20:27pm
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Dread Pirate  Jun 10, 2019 • 6:25:37pm

OK, that beats the cigarette lighter and bottle opener in my phone case.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 10, 2019 • 6:30:29pm
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Dread Pirate  Jun 10, 2019 • 6:34:26pm

re: #4 Patricia Kayden

Yes, we should investigate that. Let’s look at why Mitch McConnell blocked a bipartisan investigation.

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Mattand  Jun 10, 2019 • 6:36:18pm

re: #4 Patricia Kayden

Isn’t Frum supposed to be one of the “rational” conservatives?

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teleskiguy  Jun 10, 2019 • 6:39:51pm

re: #6 Mattand

Isn’t Frum supposed to be one of the “rational” conservatives?

There’s no such thing. He’s a vocal NeverTrumper, but as soon as Fuckface Von Clownstick is out of the equation Frum will be a reactionary just like the rest of ‘em.

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MsJ  Jun 10, 2019 • 6:42:30pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

There’s no such thing. He’s a vocal NeverTrumper, but as soon as Fuckface Von Clownstick is out of the equation Frum will be a reactionary just like the rest of ‘em.

Fucking right

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Amory Blaine  Jun 10, 2019 • 6:43:30pm

King Diamond (minus Silk)

King Diamond - Halloween (Official Live)

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MsJ  Jun 10, 2019 • 6:45:03pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 10, 2019 • 6:45:38pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 10, 2019 • 6:47:27pm
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Belafon  Jun 10, 2019 • 6:50:50pm

Fox News is laying the groundwork for conspiracy theories about Joe Biden’s health

Fox News spent 2016 pushing unfounded rumors that Hillary Clinton was hiding serious health problems, and it’s gearing up to do the same to former Vice President Joe Biden. Fox News hosts—Sean Hannity and Lisa “Kennedy” Montgomery in particular—have repeatedly speculated about Biden’s health, the Daily Beast reports.

Biden “does look very tired,” Kennedy said last week. “Joe Biden’s tired,” Hannity said the same night. “He does not have the energy for this. He’s not up for this challenge. They’re already hiding him like they hid Hillary. They don’t want him out there.” Kennedy has twice invoked Clinton’s “overcoat,” the conservative theory that a picture showing Clinton with a slight bulge on the back of a jacket was evidence she was hiding a defibrillator (rather than the much more likely explanation that it was wireless audio equipment). And she’s claimed that “He is much more like Hillary Clinton, because if you talk to Democrats, who are working for different campaigns, all of the aggressive gossip whisperers—and this is where the action is happening in terms of opposition research—it’s people having a few drinks at a bar and whispering, ‘You know there is something wrong with the former vice president.’” Because if there’s one person who’s tied in to Democratic gossip networks, it’s a Fox News host.

They’re laying the groundwork here to make this a major conspiracy theory should Biden win the Democratic nomination. And no, Fox viewers won’t notice that it’s the exact same play as Hannity and friends ran on Clinton in 2016, or that she remains healthy, let alone consider what they would say about the health of a Democrat who looked, sounded, and behaved like Donald Trump.

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Weaselone  Jun 10, 2019 • 6:53:59pm

re: #13 Belafon

Hannity does get that Hillary is still alive, kicking and takes long walks through the woods with both her dogs without the aid of a golf cart, right?

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Amory Blaine  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:00:05pm

Billy Goat Tavern

Another sign reads: “Cheezborger, Cheezborger, Cheezborger. No Pepsi. Coke,” These words, with Pepsi and Coke in reverse order, were originally popularized by John Belushi in “Olympia Cafe,” an early Saturday Night Live sketch that was inspired by the tavern.[7] Bill Murray and sketch writer (and bit player) Don Novello were regulars at the Billy Goat; Belushi and Murray were natives of the Chicago area, and Novello had moved to Chicago in the 1960s.

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DangerMan  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:08:17pm

re: #11 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Gee does every new ensign get a trip to Washington and to meet the Veep?

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MsJ  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:09:01pm

Who cares? Raise your hand. (Looking)

Yeah, that’s what I thought.

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MsJ  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:09:28pm

re: #16 DangerMan

Gee does every new ensign get a trip to Washington and to meet the Veep?

Only if they’re really cute. And buff.

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:10:47pm

I played Cyberpunk when it was the “don’t get shot or your character dies” role playing game. I am ready for this:

Cyberpunk 2077 — Official E3 2019 Cinematic Trailer

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:11:14pm

re: #13 Belafon

Fox News is laying the groundwork for conspiracy theories about Joe Biden’s health

Fox viewers (all 2 million of them) will vote for DT no matter what — thinking about reaching them is a waste of time. Everyone else will probably respond to the “yeah, they said that about Hillary” response. Especially when DT’s two hour per day schedule is thrown in.

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:14:00pm

re: #20 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Fox viewers (all 2 million of them) will vote for DT no matter what — thinking about reaching them is a waste of time. Everyone else will probably respond to the “yeah, they said that about Hillary” response. Especially when DT’s two hour per day schedule is thrown in.

I agree, but Trumper’s suddenly bought the “president never stops being president” line on Jan 21, 2017.

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:15:18pm
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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:19:00pm

re: #21 Belafon

I agree, but Trumper’s suddenly bought the “president never stops being president” line on Jan 21, 2017.

I think “Trumpers” and “Fox News viewers” are two names for the same set.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:20:21pm

re: #15 Amory Blaine

Billy Goat Tavern

Yes and I went there for Cheezborger, Cheeps and I told them I didn’t care if it was Pepsi or Coke and always got them to laugh.

Those burgers were manna from heaven!

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William Lewis  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:23:38pm

re: #19 Belafon

I played Cyberpunk when it was the “don’t get shot or your character dies” role playing game. I am ready for this:

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Loved the highly dangerous combat system in it. Traveller could come close but did have serious armor available.

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:24:56pm

re: #19 Belafon

I played Cyberpunk when it was the “don’t get shot or your character dies” role playing game. I am ready for this:

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I’m torn. I’m not much of a game player, but it’s Cyberpunk and if you preorder the game from gog.com, you get a bunch of stuff, gog.com, and it’s cyberpunk.

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gocart mozart  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:27:00pm
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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:27:43pm

re: #22 Belafon

I don’t know what to make of that. Putin cutting DT loose, or some sort of disagreement at highest levels in the Kremlin? (Word is, Putin isn’t as popular as he used to be, which might have consequences.) Certainly, Russia hasn’t got what they wanted from DT’s presidency — the US is weakened, but the benefits have been going to China.

(Which any fool could have predicted, and some of us here did predict it. I’ve always said chess was a lousy strategy teacher: only two players and no element of chance.)

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William Lewis  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:32:01pm

How about we call it “membership dues” to the club called “America”?

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:33:43pm

re: #27 gocart mozart

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:34:02pm

re: #29 William Lewis

How about we call it “membership dues” to the club called “America”?

Oh we could always co-opt “revenue enhancement” which always came out of Bob Dole’s mouth when tax increases on the poor and middle class were required under Republican control…

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gocart mozart  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:37:16pm

re: #15 Amory Blaine

Don Novello ?
Father Guido Sarducci

Father Guido Sarducci’s offers a cheap education

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:37:44pm
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retired cynic  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:39:10pm

re: #33 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That’s a blow to a venerable profession!

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:40:10pm

re: #33 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Too many of them were anti-Trump I bet (I don’t know for sure).

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:41:45pm

re: #6 Mattand

Isn’t Frum supposed to be one of the “rational” conservatives?

I thought his comment was critical of Republicans.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:47:31pm
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i(m)p(each)sos  Jun 10, 2019 • 7:53:11pm

re: #35 Belafon

Too many of them were anti-Trump I bet (I don’t know for sure).

This is the international edition, the former Paris Herald Tribune, and the move comes after it ran a rapidly anti-Semitic cartoon a few months ago.

The International NYT is still a fairly independent product, a relic of the days when it was jointly owned by the NYT and WaPo.

The domestic NYT doesn’t run a daily political cartoon.

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MsJ  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:00:20pm
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Belafon  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:01:48pm

re: #40 MsJ

He’s not going to win reelection. Maybe five terms in prison.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:02:16pm

re: #6 Mattand

So rational, he was one of the leading proponents in the Bush administration for the war in Iraq.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:04:39pm
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Belafon  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:07:33pm
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Archangelus  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:08:07pm

re: #40 MsJ

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:10:56pm

Also, the Borderlands 3 Intro theme is pretty good:

[Borderlands 3 Trailer Song] GRiZ - Can’t Hold Me Down

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teleskiguy  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:14:35pm

re: #41 Belafon

He’s not going to win reelection. Maybe five terms in prison.

No one thought he could possibly be elected in 2016 too.

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MsJ  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:15:43pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

No one thought he could possibly be elected in 2016 too.

This.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:17:52pm

Well, fellow sf bay areans, I have some good news on the weather front. The temperature just dropped about 15 degrees, there’s a breeze from the bay, and there are clouds in the sky.

So it may take another day or so for you, but relief is on the way.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:19:07pm

I posted a link to the Guardian article about their discussions with people in Pennsylvania’s Northampton County which swung sharply to Trump in 2016 and they still love him. Even people being hurt by him still back him because they love seeing him smack down colored people.

I fully expect a nail biter in 2020 because Republicans are hell bent on voter suppression and they will get an assist from Russian hackers.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:21:08pm
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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:21:51pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

No one thought he could possibly be elected in 2016 too.

We were caught off guard in 2016, and he was an unknown factor (and he won by a razor’s edge). No-one should get complacent, but he’s going to have a real struggle next time, not helped by his telling his people to ignore all the warnings he’s getting, and concentrate on his 50% approval rating. Or was it 80%?

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Chrysicat  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:28:19pm

Am I the only one who’s already installed what-would-have-been-called-a-service-pack-until-2016 for their Win10 yet?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:32:06pm

Was listening to Lawrence this evening while driving home; he had the 1974 speech by Republican Congressman M. Caldwell Butler announcing his support for the impeachment of Nixon. It was a very powerful statement; Butler stood for the rule of law and country over party. I would have said that there are no Republicans today who are capable of taking a similar position — but Amash is a worthy successor. Too bad he stands alone among the liars and cheats that now make up most of the GOP legislators in Washington.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:36:57pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:44:25pm

I’m not exactly in any cannabis closet around these parts. I must say, though, that easy access to cheap quality cannabis… well, I don’t know where I’d be right now without it.

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retired cynic  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:47:05pm

re: #56 teleskiguy

I have to make it until January, then it is legal here. And I will be asking for all sorts of advice!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:48:24pm

re: #57 retired cynic

I have to make it until January, then it is legal here. And I will be asking for all sorts of advice!

Early and often

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Maddies Mom  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:50:49pm

re: #6 Mattand

Isn’t Frum supposed to be one of the “rational” conservatives?

I think you’re reading Frum’s tweet wrong.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:53:38pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:55:38pm

re: #57 retired cynic

I’ll start here. If you ever smoked it in the past, ease yourself into it by smoking flowers. Don’t go head on into extracts, oils, and whatnot.

If you’ve never smoked it, you can eat it! Edibles are clearly marked for cannabis content in Colorado, by the milligram. Rule of thumb is if you don’t want the walls to melt like when Maureen Dowd ate a whole pot brownie (she never reported *exactly what* she ate, but from her description she ate a brownie that had in excess of 200 mg of cannabis) is start off with 10 to 30 mg, wait a few hours, and adjust dosage from there.

Then again I’ve eaten pot cookies that keep me stoned/baked/blazed/ for hours on end. I didn’t buy those cookies in a store. 😎

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gocart mozart  Jun 10, 2019 • 8:59:11pm
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retired cynic  Jun 10, 2019 • 9:05:11pm

re: #61 teleskiguy

I have never been able to smoke anything, so it is definitely going to be the oil or edible route. Am using aerosol CBD oil for pain now, and I can tell a slight difference with it. I do NOT need to have my appetite enhanced! [grin]

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Dread Pirate  Jun 10, 2019 • 9:06:03pm
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mmmirele  Jun 10, 2019 • 9:08:08pm

re: #64 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

Good God Almighty, one of the first things we learned in law school lo all those decades ago was that unless the contract is memorialized in writing, it doesn’t exist. Oh, and the short-fingered vulgarian is a continual liar.

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gocart mozart  Jun 10, 2019 • 9:08:12pm

Alternate answer

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 10, 2019 • 9:12:54pm

re: #64 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

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gocart mozart  Jun 10, 2019 • 9:20:20pm
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plansbandc  Jun 10, 2019 • 9:30:39pm

Have I told you guys lately how much I despise Bill Maher?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 10, 2019 • 9:30:52pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 10, 2019 • 9:34:50pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 10, 2019 • 9:36:55pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 10, 2019 • 9:38:22pm
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mmmirele  Jun 10, 2019 • 9:41:18pm

re: #68 gocart mozart

Reading the comments was actually educational on this one, because I picked up an argument I will use on the murderous pro-lifers at Apologia Church the next time I’m out there.

Any biologist will tell you that life does not “begin.” That’s a religious concept not a scientific one. Humans like all other living organisms have an unbroken cycle of life stretching back billions of years to the dawn of life on earth.

Humans like other mammals simply have two life stages in their cycle. The haploid stage (sperm and eggs) and the diploid stage (adult humans). Other organisms have 3 or 4 different stages in their life cycle such as insects (egg, larva, adult).

By any scientific definition, sperm and eggs are alive and human life never “begins” it is an endless cycle of life.

As for chance, we are of course all the consequence of billions of possible random combinations of sperm and eggs. Had our parents mated in the slightest different way or copulated 0.01 seconds earlier or later a different individual would have resulted.

Life is a continuum…cells are alive, no?…don’t you worry about the personhood of all that sperm you unload on a regular basis…? That and pushing them on how they want the state to murder women who have abortions.

For the record, I was not a nice person yesterday. I dropped several F-bombs (F OFF) when the pastor brought up Hitler as an example of secular law gone awry. I’m sorry, but that’s not even an argument. I also told a woman who told me she would pray for my salvation that she should pray that she not be an asshat. Yeah, I got chewed out, but you know, they already think I’m going to burn in hell, so why should I conform to their views?

Besides, their views suck. They believe the way you demonstrate you’re saved is by showing the fruits of the Spirit and keeping the commandments. Since I cuss and call their Calvinist god evil, I obviously do not have the fruit of the spirit nor do I keep the commandments.* I pointed out to one guy that Paul used the word skubala (which means “shit”) at one point (Philippians 3:8) to express his complete disgust with righteousness that comes with keeping the law. I am not saying I agree with Paul (in fact, I’ve come to the conclusion that a lot of epistles sound like modern-day theological whining on Facebook), but I did exuberantly point out that Paul did use a ‘bad word’. Several times.

*In my personal religious view, their reliance on personal actions to demonstrate salvation is just making up their own set of laws and I am not going to have any of that. Paul might argue that they’re back to keeping the Law and he didn’t think that was such a great thing.

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teleskiguy  Jun 10, 2019 • 9:45:20pm

Thank you, Mitch Hedberg.

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prairiefire  Jun 10, 2019 • 9:51:39pm

I wonder what the Queen said to charm his gilded ass. “We are making history”, or whatever she’s had to pull out of her purse for fascist leaning leaders in the past.

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teleskiguy  Jun 10, 2019 • 10:01:48pm
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Belafon  Jun 10, 2019 • 10:08:56pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

No one thought he could possibly be elected in 2016 too.

He was voted in by the EC. Never say never, but he didn’t even get a plurality of the popular vote, and he’s going to be hurting in the close states.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 10, 2019 • 10:39:21pm
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Dread Pirate  Jun 10, 2019 • 11:05:24pm

1) Will impose tariffs on China if Xi doesn’t meet @ G20

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Dread Pirate  Jun 10, 2019 • 11:07:30pm
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Dread Pirate  Jun 10, 2019 • 11:20:21pm

Tariffs for EVERYBODY!

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Dread Pirate  Jun 11, 2019 • 12:13:13am
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Dread Pirate  Jun 11, 2019 • 12:45:36am

I like the way his bullet-proof vest looks like a fat-suit.

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teleskiguy  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:22:34am
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Decatur Deb  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:24:58am

Join Alabama’s headlong charge into the IX Cent.

Alabama becomes seventh state to approve castration for some sex offenses

nbcnews.com

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teleskiguy  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:37:31am

EEK! John Hodgman replied to a tweet o’ mine.

He has a million followers!

*my mentions are active*

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Decatur Deb  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:41:53am

The most astounding thing about Trump isn’t that he goes about the world uttering semi-lunatic ravings. The weird part is that supposedly sane and sober experts, responsible for hundreds of billions of Other People’s Money, make real-world decisions based on such ravings. And they do it time after time.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 11, 2019 • 3:54:27am
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steve_davis  Jun 11, 2019 • 4:05:24am

re: #36 Patricia Kayden

I thought his comment was critical of Republicans.

it was. he was clearly attacking the original tweet that he was responding to.

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steve_davis  Jun 11, 2019 • 4:15:30am

re: #63 retired cynic

I have never been able to smoke anything, so it is definitely going to be the oil or edible route. Am using aerosol CBD oil for pain now, and I can tell a slight difference with it. I do NOT need to have my appetite enhanced! [grin]

i’m trying to imagine a world where a bakery refuses to supply one of their mary jane wedding cakes to a straight conservative wedding, in some not distant future, as a matter of conscience, and the supreme court twists itself into a giant pretzel. by the way, was all of Star Trek season 2 just a giant, incomprehensible cluster fucking plot device designed to create a commander burnham spin off series?

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jeffreyw  Jun 11, 2019 • 4:40:05am

Squirrel!

On it!

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2019 • 4:57:31am

re: #92 steve_davis

i’m trying to imagine a world where a bakery refuses to supply one of their mary jane wedding cakes to a straight conservative wedding, in some not distant future, as a matter of conscience, and the supreme court twists itself into a giant pretzel.

This is an issue about defending minority rights against the tyranny of the majority.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 11, 2019 • 5:24:01am

re: #87 Decatur Deb

Join Alabama’s headlong charge into the IX Cent.

Alabama becomes seventh state to approve castration for some sex offenses

nbcnews.com

“Hey, where the white women at?”

And we know where that will be almost exclusively targeted.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 11, 2019 • 5:28:29am

re: #87 Decatur Deb

Join Alabama’s headlong charge into the IX Cent.

Alabama becomes seventh state to approve castration for some sex offenses

nbcnews.com

Somehow I think they won’t do that to Roy Moore…

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 11, 2019 • 5:29:50am

re: #95 Feline Fearless Leader

The KKK?

/

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 11, 2019 • 5:31:00am

re: #90 Patricia Kayden

[Embedded content]

Yes Joe. Back the man who lets his pals dump mine shit into your state’s drinking water…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2019 • 5:40:26am

re: #98 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes Joe. Back the man who lets his pals dump mine shit into your state’s drinking water…

mine shit is now thine shit

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DangerMan  Jun 11, 2019 • 5:40:50am

re: #64 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

[Embedded content]

State of the union 2019

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DangerMan  Jun 11, 2019 • 5:43:58am

re: #68 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

Maher’s argument is no different from “what if they had sex the night before”?

He still wouldn’t be here

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DangerMan  Jun 11, 2019 • 5:53:02am

re: #75 mmmirele

Reading the comments was actually educational on this one, because I picked up an argument I will use on the murderous pro-lifers at Apologia Church the next time I’m out there.

Life is a continuum…cells are alive, no?…don’t you worry about the personhood of all that sperm you unload on a regular basis…? That and pushing them on how they want the state to murder women who have abortions.

For the record, I was not a nice person yesterday. I dropped several F-bombs (F OFF) when the pastor brought up Hitler as an example of secular law gone awry. I’m sorry, but that’s not even an argument. I also told a woman who told me she would pray for my salvation that she should pray that she not be an asshat. Yeah, I got chewed out, but you know, they already think I’m going to burn in hell, so why should I conform to their views?

Besides, their views suck. They believe the way you demonstrate you’re saved is by showing the fruits of the Spirit and keeping the commandments. Since I cuss and call their Calvinist god evil, I obviously do not have the fruit of the spirit nor do I keep the commandments.* I pointed out to one guy that Paul used the word skubala (which means “shit”) at one point (Philippians 3:8) to express his complete disgust with righteousness that comes with keeping the law. I am not saying I agree with Paul (in fact, I’ve come to the conclusion that a lot of epistles sound like modern-day theological whining on Facebook), but I did exuberantly point out that Paul did use a ‘bad word’. Several times.

*In my personal religious view, their reliance on personal actions to demonstrate salvation is just making up their own set of laws and I am not going to have any of that. Paul might argue that they’re back to keeping the Law and he didn’t think that was such a great thing.

I

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MsJ  Jun 11, 2019 • 5:54:51am

re: #62 gocart mozart

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DangerMan  Jun 11, 2019 • 5:55:19am

re: #79 Belafon

He was voted in by the EC. Never say never, but he didn’t even get a plurality of the popular vote, and he’s going to be hurting in the close states.

*Enough* people know his schtick now
(hope)

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mmmirele  Jun 11, 2019 • 6:02:32am

re: #82 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

I liked this quote from the article:

But a word to the advisors of MBS, like Sotheby’s Allan Schwartzman, who is presently serving on the advisory board of the Royal Commission for Al-Ula: you better advise wisely, or you might end up a 21st-century version of Judith and Holofernes.

And this is an example of Judith and Holofernes, by the painter Artemisia Gentilischi, so you can get an idea of what he’s talking about. Behind the lock and key for the squeamish.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jun 11, 2019 • 6:05:14am

re: #103 MsJ

I don’t know about the 70’s but this (faux) 60’s song perfectly sums it up:
Link

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2019 • 6:08:20am

re: #90 Patricia Kayden

Which is why we will need at least 52 Democrats to get anything done.

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2019 • 6:09:21am

re: #91 steve_davis

it was. he was clearly attacking the original tweet that he was responding to.

I didn’t get that since Matt mentioned Frum.

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2019 • 6:13:08am

For most of them, their funding is going to dry up so fast they’ll have to be Tulsi Gabbard to stay in.

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2019 • 6:17:54am

Some needs to ask her what she thinks she can get done. Obama got two, the economy and health care. And McConnell is setting up the courts to act just like the ones FDR had to deal with.

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Sea Mexican  Jun 11, 2019 • 6:43:01am

re: #3 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

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OK, that beats the cigarette lighter and bottle opener in my phone case.

As a techie: Why? This is a risk waiting to happen. The phone (a ~$1k investment) is at high risk. The 140F heat from the case that’s making contact, the water inside the cartridge

As a medium coffee drinker: Why? There are simpler ways of getting coffee that doesn’t involve bodily injuries.

I can see the use for a simple, K-cup style portable coffee maker. This one tries too much.

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Ming5000  Jun 11, 2019 • 6:47:04am

re: #111 Sea Mexican

My initial thought was that it was for “coffee” ~ wink.

or your whiskey

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Teddy's Person  Jun 11, 2019 • 6:48:29am

World-class trolling…

Wisdom comes from the unlikeliest places. And on Saturday, Ben Bowling, the valedictorian of Bell County High School in Pineville, Ky., made an inspirational appeal that left his graduating classmates and their parents dumbstruck.

“This is the part of my speech where I share some inspirational quotes I found on Google,” he told the packed auditorium. “‘Don’t just get involved. Fight for your seat at the table. Better yet, fight for a seat at the head of the table’ — Donald J. Trump.”

The crowd burst into applause. President Trump is quite popular in Pineville and the surrounding area, which is the heart of coal country and overwhelmingly supported the president in the 2016 election after he promised to bring coal jobs back to America.

Mr. Bowling, though, wasn’t finished.

“Just kidding,” he said. “That was Barack Obama.”

The cheering abruptly stopped. The crowd went mostly silent. There was a lone boo.

Source: NYT

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DangerMan  Jun 11, 2019 • 6:53:13am

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 11, 2019 • 7:02:32am

re: #106 Rocky-in-Connecticut

10 updings for Spinal Tap reference.

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Sea Mexican  Jun 11, 2019 • 7:03:12am

re: #112 Ming5000

My initial thought was that it was for “coffee” ~ wink.

or your whiskey

That I can see. You don’t need to heat whiskey. At best (or worse), you might want to keep it cold.

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MsJ  Jun 11, 2019 • 7:03:53am

re: #113 Teddy’s Person

World-class trolling…

Yes, indeed. I stolded it.

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mmmirele  Jun 11, 2019 • 7:07:33am

Long thread on how Qatar treats its foreign workers coming in to build the 2022 infrastructure. The tl;dr is conditions are horrible and workers are dying.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 11, 2019 • 7:08:25am

re: #117 MsJ

Yes, indeed. I stolded it.

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#notallheroeswearcapes

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Dave In Austin  Jun 11, 2019 • 7:51:21am

re: #90 Patricia Kayden

And how many people here said we needed to defend this guy in 18’.

I didn’t. He’s a Republican in Dem clothing folks. He always has been. Screw these neutered fucks and throw them the hell out next year.

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Old Liberal  Jun 11, 2019 • 7:58:41am

re: #120 Dave In Austin

And how many people here said we needed to defend this guy in 18’.

I didn’t. He’s a Republican in Dem clothing folks. He always has been. Screw these neutered fucks and throw them the hell out next year.

I’d like to see an effort to mold new opinions in targeted states like MT, IA and CO. None of these states should ever elect Republican senators. As long as we rely on Blue Dogs we will have problems like those caused by Ben Nelson and the ACA. Fucking Lieberman etc.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:00:34am

re: #120 Dave In Austin

And how many people here said we needed to defend this guy in 18’.

I didn’t. He’s a Republican in Dem clothing folks. He always has been. Screw these neutered fucks and throw them the hell out next year.

As much as we dislike Manchin, replacing him with a Republican just helps McConnell. No progressive Democrat is going to win a WV senate race.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:01:16am

re: #113 Teddy’s Person

World-class trolling…

Our grate MAGA potus did 2 say that! Before and better than Obummer! OK he didn’t say it who cares. The saying is stupid anyway we didn’t cheer the saying we cheered DJt.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:01:51am

re: #121 Old Liberal

Manchin is a Republican (capital R). And he always has been. Someone need to look at his money.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:02:33am

re: #122 NO SMOCKING GUN!

As much as we dislike Manchin, replacing him with a Republican just helps McConnell. No progressive Democrat is going to win a WV senate race.

This. Better a wishy-washy democrat than a repug. If there’s no third choice.

ETA: And we’re stuck with him until 2024, so there are better things to worry about this year.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:02:41am

re: #120 Dave In Austin

I didn’t. He’s a Republican in Dem clothing folks. He always has been. Screw these neutered fucks and throw them the hell out next year.

The issue with voting to keep a ‘democrat’ in a seat simply because he may vote with the Dems sometimes is not a good answer, ever. It’s a akin to saying the democratic party supported slavery in the 1800’s and therefore is tarnished in perpetuity.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:03:52am

re: #81 Dread Pirate Union Local 13

President Trump: “No, I’m never insulted. I’ve learned not to be insulted.” pic.twitter.com

— The Hill

Bwaahahahahhahahhahahhahahah

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:07:32am

re: #127 Sir John Barron

President Trump: “No, I’m never insulted. I’ve learned not to be insulted.”

Anyone who insults me is a low-intelligence loser!

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:07:57am

re: #120 Dave In Austin

And how many people here said we needed to defend this guy in 18’.

I didn’t. He’s a Republican in Dem clothing folks. He always has been. Screw these neutered fucks and throw them the hell out next year.

We do. He’s still better than a 100% lockstep Republican. You don’t have to like it but don’t sabotage what we have.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:08:49am

re: #126 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The issue with voting to keep a ‘democrat’ in a seat simply because he may vote with the Dems sometimes is not a good answer, ever. It’s a akin to saying the democratic party supported slavery in the 1800’s and therefore is tarnished in perpetuity.

In the 2018 election, it was Manchin or the repug candidate. How should West Virginians have voted? (Yes, there was a primary challenge from the left. She lost.)

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danarchy  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:13:31am

re: #122 NO SMOCKING GUN!

As much as we dislike Manchin, replacing him with a Republican just helps McConnell. No progressive Democrat is going to win a WV senate race.

Manchin voted with Dem leadership 70% of the time, even the most moderate republicans like Collins and Murkowski only overlapped with the Dems 40%.

Do you think it is likely we can do better than 70% in WV?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:15:45am

re: #130 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

In the 2018 election, it was Manchin or the repug candidate. How should West Virginians have voted? (Yes, there was a primary challenge from the left. She lost.)

and she probably would have lost the general

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:17:29am

re: #125 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

This. Better a wishy-washy democrat than a repug. If there’s no third choice.

ETA: And we’re stuck with him until 2024, so there are better things to worry about this year.

My only concern is this: If we win the Senate 50-50, we might as well consider it 49-51.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:17:33am

re: #126 Colère Tueur de Lapin

What good is that if he’s a Trump supporter.
Sorry. This is where I put my foot down. NO MORE.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:21:26am

re: #131 danarchy

Manchin voted with Dem leadership 70% of the time, even the most moderate republicans like Collins and Murkowski only overlapped with the Dems 40%.

Do you think it is likely we can do better than 70% in WV?

I’ll admit his “I regret voting for Hillary” talk is irritating, but his actual votes are more important. And it’s possible he says stuff like this as a means of keeping some semblance of a base back home to compensate for his votes and his party label (although it’s true of course that he just got re-elected).

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:22:29am

re: #134 Dave In Austin

What good is that if he’s a Trump supporter.
Sorry. This is where I put my foot down. NO MORE.

All that matters is whether he votes to make the Democrat the Majority Leader of the Senate, not who he supports for President. His state is voting for the Republican nominee for President, regardless of whom he supports. Remember: Manchin voted to preserve the ACA. Without him, it would be gone.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:23:00am

re: #133 Belafon

My only concern is this: If we win the Senate 50-50, we might as well consider it 49-51.

Say what again?

At 49-51, McConnell remains majority leader, Republicans control Judiciary and all the other committees, and the Senate remains the place where democracy goes to die.

At 50-50 with a Democratic VP to break the tie, we get Schumer as majority leader and Democratic control of the committees.

If putting up with Joe Manchin is the price of making that happen, I will walk naked down the main drag of Parkersburg trailing a “Thank you, Manchin” banner.

If, and ONLY if, Manchin starts threatening to switch sides on leadership votes, I’ll switch to team “screw you, Joe.” But for now I’d rather have him inside the tent pissing out, as the saying goes.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:23:05am

re: #135 Sir John Barron

They need to put him in the basement with his fucking stapler not to see the light of day.

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Mike Lamb  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:24:44am

re: #118 mmmirele

Long thread on how Qatar treats its foreign workers coming in to build the 2022 infrastructure. The tl;dr is conditions are horrible and workers are dying.

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This isn’t a new story, at least as it pertains to the 2022 World Cup. As a soccer fan, it’s painful because I love the spectacle of the World Cup. Unfortunately, FIFA is pretty much unrivaled when it comes to corruption, and I have zero doubt that the 2018 and 2022 bidding was rigged. And this is the result.

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jimmyvluv4u  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:25:05am

For all you Manchin draggers, get off your soapboxes. Do you want a 2/3 D or a 100% R? Cause if you don’t have Manchin, you will like the alternative a hell of a lot less.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:26:42am

re: #140 jimmyvluv4u

For all you Manchin draggers, get off your soapboxes. Do you want a 2/3 D or a 100% R? Cause if you don’t have Manchin, you will like the alternative a hell of a lot less.

Or make up for him in another state. I won’t support him. Period.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:29:04am

We interrupt your regularly scheduled “Joe Manchin sux” for an update on my day.

I went out for some light yardwork, like, 10-15 minutes, so I didn’t plan to lock my door.
I come back, I find out that since I didn’t PLAN to lock my door, I didn’t take my keys with me.

NARRATOR’S VOICE: They did, in fact, lock the door.

So, I walk down to the nearest gas station…because I was doing yard work, I wasn’t going to need a phone

NARRATOR’S VOICE: They did, in fact, need a phone.

I call about a half-dozen locksmiths before we find one that can come out. So, I’m kinda freaking out because I have epilepsy, and I hadn’t taken my medicine because I was just going to be out there for a few minutes.

But the locksmith arrived quickly picked my door lock so fast it seemed like magic…

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:29:35am

re: #137 i(m)p(each)sos

Say what again?

At 49-51, McConnell remains majority leader, Republicans control Judiciary and all the other committees, and the Senate remains the place where democracy goes to die.

At 50-50 with a Democratic VP to break the tie, we get Schumer as majority leader and Democratic control of the committees.

If putting up with Joe Manchin is the price of making that happen, I will walk naked down the main drag of Parkersburg trailing a “Thank you, Manchin” banner.

If, and ONLY if, Manchin starts threatening to switch sides on leadership votes, I’ll switch to team “screw you, Joe.” But for now I’d rather have him inside the tent pissing out, as the saying goes.

That’s exactly the concern I was talking about. I live in Texas; I wouldn’t mind a Republican-lite Democrat to be angry at because it would be a Democrat. But Ralph Hall, who was my rep when I moved here, switched from Democrat to Republican, which was frustrating.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:44:09am

re: #143 Belafon

That’s exactly the concern I was talking about. I live in Texas; I wouldn’t mind a Republican-lite Democrat to be angry at because it would be a Democrat. But Ralph Hall, who was my rep when I moved here, switched from Democrat to Republican, which was frustrating.

I would think that if he was going to switch, he’d have done it already.

(Going out to do some shopping before it heats up…)

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:44:38am

re: #139 Mike Lamb

This isn’t a new story, at least as it pertains to the 2022 World Cup. As a soccer fan, it’s painful because I love the spectacle of the World Cup. Unfortunately, FIFA is pretty much unrivaled when it comes to corruption, and I have zero doubt that the 2018 and 2022 bidding was rigged. And this is the result.

Oh it has a rival - in fact, I’d argue that it’s a race between FIFA and the IOC to see who can be the more corrupt and get the most bribes.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:46:44am

re: #133 Belafon

My only concern is this: If we win the Senate 50-50, we might as well consider it 49-51.

Nope. If it actually is 49-51, McConnell will not fill a SCOTUS vacancy, few if any lower federal courts, and may not even allow a Democratic president to appoint a Cabinet, not to mention that no legislation will pass at all, except in the direst necessity.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:47:55am

re: #134 Dave In Austin

What good is that if he’s a Trump supporter.
Sorry. This is where I put my foot down. NO MORE.

That doesn’t matter. WV is going to vote for Trump no matter what.

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Mattand  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:48:37am

re: #140 jimmyvluv4u

I guess the metric to measure this by is how many times he’s supported his own party versus how many times he’s royally fucked Democrats over.

I get the whole “pissing inside the tent” idea, but the fact is he’s still pissing on his alleged allies inside the tent. That’s less “We at least have control of him inside the tent” and more “The GOP has a great inside mole who is constantly fucking everything up for the Democrats.”

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:49:32am

re: #146 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Nope. If it actually is 49-51, McConnell will not fill a SCOTUS vacancy, few if any lower federal courts, and may not even allow a Democratic president to appoint a Cabinet, not to mention that no legislation will pass at all, except in the direst necessity.

Manchin will most likely allow appointsments. The concern is that to really get anything done while McConnell is GOP leader is to scrap the filibuster. Will Manchin allow that?

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Teukka  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:50:22am
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Mike Lamb  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:52:13am

re: #145 William Lewis

Oh it has a rival - in fact, I’d argue that it’s a race between FIFA and the IOC to see who can be the more corrupt and get the most bribes.

The IOC is closest, but FIFA is currently allowing the ‘22 World Cup to be built by slave labor. That’s another level.

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lizardofid  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:53:49am

re: #139 Mike Lamb

This isn’t a new story, at least as it pertains to the 2022 World Cup. As a soccer fan, it’s painful because I love the spectacle of the World Cup. Unfortunately, FIFA is pretty much unrivaled when it comes to corruption, and I have zero doubt that the 2018 and 2022 bidding was rigged. And this is the result.

If Qatar can buy it’s way off a “funders of terrorism” list, buying a World Cup is pocket change, no?

Oh, good morning!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:54:11am

re: #149 Belafon

Manchin will most likely allow appointsments. The concern is that to really get anything done while McConnell is GOP leader is to scrap the filibuster. Will Manchin allow that?

Heck, apparently even Sanders, Booker and others won’t allow that. Meaning that the Democrats, IF they win control of Congress, get to pass at most two reconciliation bills before the GOP takes over Congress in the 2022 midterms.

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Mattand  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:54:32am

re: #131 danarchy

Manchin voted with Dem leadership 70% of the time, even the most moderate republicans like Collins and Murkowski only overlapped with the Dems 40%.

Do you think it is likely we can do better than 70% in WV?

Did not see this until after I posted my comment, naturally.

I’m genuinely surprised the number is that high. I’d love to see what issues he refused to back the party on.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:55:30am

re: #152 lizardofid

If Qatar can buy it’s way off a “funders of terrorism” list, buying a World Cup is pocket change, no?

Oh, good morning!

I usually break down and watch a few soccer games out of solidarity here during the European Cup or World Cup, but the scandal with Qatar gives me good reason to ignore it totally.

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:56:32am

It will be far more democratic (small d) to scrap the filibuster than having a president have to do anything via executive order.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 11, 2019 • 8:59:25am

re: #156 Belafon

It will be far more democratic (small d) to scrap the filibuster than having a president have to do anything via executive order.

I absolutely agree. In my fantasy world, the Democrats win at least 50 senate seats, scrap the filibuster, grant statehood to DC, PR and Pacific Island territories and immediately seat 6 new senators.

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2019 • 9:01:05am

re: #155 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I usually break down and watch a few soccer games out of solidarity here during the European Cup or World Cup, but the scandal with Qatar gives me good reason to ignore it totally.

I enjoy English Premier League, Arsenal especially. But I know I won’t watch that cup.

But it’s no different to me than the stuff done for the past few Olympics. Anyone want to tell me that the Sochi winter games for Comrade Putin’s oligarchs was any different?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2019 • 9:01:44am

re: #158 William Lewis

I enjoy English Premier League, Arsenal especially. But I know I won’t watch that cup.

But it’s no different to me than the stuff done for the past few Olympics. Anyone want to tell me that the Sochi winter games for Comrade Putin’s oligarchs was any different?

I pretty much ignored those, too.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jun 11, 2019 • 9:06:57am

It’s time for Some More News [tm][c][r], and OH BOY, the comment section will be…interesting.

How To Maybe Criticize Israel? - SOME MORE NEWS

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 11, 2019 • 9:09:05am

re: #156 Belafon

It will be far more democratic (small d) to scrap the filibuster than having a president have to do anything via executive order.

The issue is the way the filibuster has been weaponized. It was originally used rarely only for very substantial issues of controversy. Now it’s used for everything, except perhaps renaming post offices — and it wouldn’t be surprising if it happened there. Maybe it would revert to its rare invocation if the old rules applied: someone would actually have to hold court speaking the entire time it was in effect.

Of course, the real problem with the Senate is that it is a totally undemocratic institution, where theoretically, right now, Senators representing 20% of the population have absolute control of what happens to the remaining 80%

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2019 • 9:12:01am

re: #161 Hecuba’s daughter

The issue is the way the filibuster has been weaponized. It was originally used rarely only for very substantial issues of controversy. Now it’s used for everything, except perhaps renaming post offices — and it wouldn’t be surprising if it happened there. Maybe it would revert to its rare invocation if the old rules applied: someone would actually have to hold court speaking the entire time it was in effect.

Of course, the real problem with the Senate is that it is a totally undemocratic institution, where theoretically, right now, Senators representing 20% of the population have absolute control of what happens to the remaining 80%

Both chambers need to be revamped to where the leaders cannot block legislation. That’s in addition to increasing the number of reps so that each represents fewer people.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 11, 2019 • 9:15:55am

The daytime highs for Doha, Qatar over the next couple of weeks are between 108 and 114 degrees. Evening lows between 90 and 94.

I needed three rest/water breaks over the 60 minutes I spent mowing my lawn (about an acres worth of grass) in 90 degree weather yesterday.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 11, 2019 • 9:23:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2019 • 9:24:29am

moron

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2019 • 9:30:46am

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

Both blocking investions and infrastructure corruption, all from the same people:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2019 • 9:32:00am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2019 • 9:32:49am

The Nautilus, one of the ocean exploration ships which broadcast livestreams, is in the Pacific these days, and is leaving port… and the aft camera just showed this iconic shot:

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Dave In Austin  Jun 11, 2019 • 9:38:46am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2019 • 9:45:01am

The Marine Tracker website seems to be several minutes behind in plotting ship locations, such as with the Nautilus:

marinetraffic.com

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sagehen  Jun 11, 2019 • 9:49:48am

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mueller has spoken. He found No Collusion between the Trump Campaign and the Russians.

THE OBSTRUCTION IS THE COLLUSION.

Any action that makes it more difficult to investigate what Russia did, how they did it, how and where they’ll do it again… obstructing that investigation is colluding with the Russians. Trying to help them get away with, trying to not block them from repeating it, trying to obscure their continued efforts.

THE OBSTRUCTION IS THE COLLUSION.

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MsJ  Jun 11, 2019 • 9:53:21am

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:03:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:08:45am
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Dave In Austin  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:11:09am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:12:03am

The royal trolling continues as the red carpet is rolled out for one of Harry’s charity events

(trump didn’t get the red carpet)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:14:49am
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Dave In Austin  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:18:19am

OMG……..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:24:17am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:24:31am

fucking moron

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:24:45am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:24:54am

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

“…We are going to harden our Infrastructure against 2020!”

So, are you saying there won’t be another Infrastructure Week until 2020?

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:26:13am
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Dr. Matt  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:26:20am

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

They “earned” welfare because they are old, White, and hurting because of Donnie’s asinine policies.

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:26:54am

re: #182 Sir John Barron

So, are you saying there won’t be another Infrastructure Week until 2020?

/

It sounds like he’s planning to stop the calendar before it rolls over at the end of this year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:27:23am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:27:53am
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Belafon  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:32:20am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump’s starting an apology tour?

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rhuarc  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:33:30am

re: #178 Dave In Austin

What annoys me about this is the following. Maybe it’s the unofficial decorum required in a congressional hearing, but Stewart should make very clear who is holding up this bill. He should be railing against that. Not some nebulous Congress. Because your average voter may see this and immediately come to the conclusion that “both sides are the same” instead of assigning blame where it should be. Now, I’ve not researched the history of this so maybe there was a Democrat who is guilty of playing politics with this, but I wouldn’t put my money on it.

Name and shame. Fuck decorum.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:33:41am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:34:20am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

There goes Obama, apologizing for Merica again.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:34:32am
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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:35:10am

re: #171 sagehen

THE OBSTRUCTION IS THE COLLUSION.

Any action that makes it more difficult to investigate what Russia did, how they did it, how and where they’ll do it again… obstructing that investigation is colluding with the Russians. Trying to help them get away with, trying to not block them from repeating it, trying to obscure their continued efforts.

THE OBSTRUCTION IS THE COLLUSION.

The Mueller report says specifically that it was not looking for “collusion,” which is not a legal term, and has no generally agreed-upon meaning.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:36:41am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:37:46am
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:40:49am

What in the entire universe of fuck!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:41:42am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Probably the same group that prevented the Star Wars museum from being built in Chicago and bringing revenue to the city. Glad to see that they lost this battle.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:42:52am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:44:01am

re: #196 goddamnedfrank

What in the entire universe of fuck!

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Another piece of evidence that Trump is nothing but a Putin asset.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:48:10am

Yesterday a judge issued a preliminary injunction keeping Missouri”s last abortion clinic open for now. Very soon some state will close its last abortion clinic, and within a few years, with SCOTUS’ blessing, abortion will be unavailable throughout most of the country. vox.com

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rhuarc  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:48:29am

re: #196 goddamnedfrank

What in the entire universe of fuck!

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It this not outright treason?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:51:05am

re: #201 rhuarc

It this not outright treason?

Not technically, since Congress never declared war on North Korea, but yes as the term is commonly understood. The WH is thick with traitors, and it starts in the Oval Office.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:51:50am

re: #201 rhuarc

It this not outright treason?

Per William Barr: If the President (R) does it, it isn’t treason.

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retired cynic  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:52:32am

re: #166 Belafon

Both blocking investions and infrastructure corruption, all from the same people:

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After they finish chewing on Chao, they should tackle Perdue: Washington Monthly, Nancy LeTourneau. After Chao, it Should Be Perdue’s Time in the Barrel

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:52:52am

re: #201 rhuarc

If Obama had done this there’d be tanks rolling towards the White House right now.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:55:21am

re: #60 Charles Johnson

When did she smash up her phone and hard drives? That’s news to me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:55:47am

re: #206 Patricia Kayden

When did she smash up her phone and hard drives? That’s news to me.

right after she acid washed them

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:57:10am

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

Before she wiped them with her swiffer sweeper.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:57:29am

re: #196 goddamnedfrank

I can’t even act shocked anymore. What more do we need to begin the impeachment process in the House? Things are only going to get worse as Trump continues to feel emboldened.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:57:46am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 11, 2019 • 10:59:00am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:01:49am

My Democratic nominee preferences:

1. Warren
2. Most of the field
3. Mediocre white guys
4. Bernie
5. Tulsi
Since I don’t get to vote until like June, I’ll be voting for whoever is left other than Bernie or Tulsi.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:01:55am
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mmmirele  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:02:20am

Twitter is all effed up.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:02:31am

re: #211 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Trump announced his intention to nominate Shanahan on May 9, but the White House still hasn’t officially nominated him.

Did Trump tweet this announcement? If so, he probably thinks that a tweet is equivalent to an official request.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:02:52am

re: #206 Patricia Kayden

I believe that some of them were disposed of, after the bleach bit etc in this manner.

I recall reading SOMEWHERE, that it was part of the disposal protocol to make sure that nothing was usable. So, everything gets archived off the device, then the device is wiped (bleach bit…or as morons say “acid washed”), and then you get to smash your device into itty-bitty pieces.

In other words, not only were they not doing anything wrong, they were doing EXACTLY what the Book told them to.

IF my memory is correct.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:05:10am

re: #190 Charles Johnson

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He could have at least doodled on it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:05:42am

re: #214 mmmirele

Twitter is all effed up.

Sounds like he is trying to establish a neutral context to that image.

It is all about context

Twitter doesn’t like to bother with context

Or anything except making money

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mmmirele  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:11:58am

re: #200 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Yesterday a judge issued a preliminary injunction keeping Missouri”s last abortion clinic open for now. Very soon some state will close its last abortion clinic, and within a few years, with SCOTUS’ blessing, abortion will be unavailable throughout most of the country. vox.com

Correction: Legal abortion. Women will still get abortions. They will just be underground and dangerous.

Here’s a series of articles about abortion in DC and environs in 1966. It was quite illegal but very organized.

washingtonpost.com

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:14:26am

re: #214 mmmirele

Twitter is all effed up.

What is in the picture?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:14:55am

re: #219 mmmirele

Correction: Legal abortion. Women will still get abortions. They will just be underground and dangerous.

Here’s a series of articles about abortion in DC and environs in 1966. It was quite illegal but very organized.

washingtonpost.com

Those states that support women’s rights would become a Mecca for the new underground railroad. Of course, this assumes that the ruling doesn’t, in effect, outright ban abortion for all by claiming that a fetus is a person from the date of conception.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:16:11am

re: #219 mmmirele

Correction: Legal abortion. Women will still get abortions. They will just be underground and dangerous.

Here’s a series of articles about abortion in DC and environs in 1966. It was quite illegal but very organized.

washingtonpost.com

As I recall, before Roe v Wade, there were some 20 states that allowed abortions.

But the Religious Right will not rest until abortion is outlawed Alabama-style in all 50 states and pregnant women are not allowed to leave Gilead.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:16:15am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:17:16am
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Belafon  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:18:48am

re: #223 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Hopefully they turn out like they did last year, or maybe even more. A lot more than usual turned out.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:21:09am

re: #216 Sufficient unto the day…

Can someone tell Maher to stop running his mouth and speaking untruths then? Secretary Clinton did nothing wrong. I’m sick and tired of people dragging her who should know better.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:26:17am

*spit*

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DangerMan  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:27:45am

re: #214 mmmirele

Twitter is all effed up.

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Just more proof Twitter is totally out of control
They have no idea what they’re doing and they’re doing it badly

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:29:53am

re: #225 Belafon

Hopefully they turn out like they did last year, or maybe even more. A lot more than usual turned out.

1) If you get them to turn out once, they’re likely to repeat.

2) It’s a general election.

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DangerMan  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:30:19am

re: #223 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Quinnipiac poll has voters under 35 years old going for Biden over Trump by a 63% to 27% split in general election matchup

Be sure to vote that way!

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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:30:58am

Here’s that super-secret agreement that’s going to change everything.

Just more bullshit.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:31:20am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

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DangerMan  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:33:39am

re: #231 Charles Johnson

Here’s that super-secret agreement that’s going to change everything.

Just more bullshit.

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Mexico is laughing their collective ass off
(I’d guess a lot of other world leaders too)

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Sir John Barron  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:34:23am

re: #231 Charles Johnson

Here’s that super-secret agreement that’s going to change everything.

Just more bullshit.

An agreement to implement an agreement in 45 days the future sometime whenever.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:35:56am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:35:58am

re: #221 Hecuba’s daughter

Those states that support women’s rights would become a Mecca for the new underground railroad. Of course, this assumes that the ruling doesn’t, in effect, outright ban abortion for all by claiming that a fetus is a person from the date of conception.

Roberts won’t go that far. But if Trump gets to replace another liberal justice, who knows?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:37:13am

re: #211 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“I said I wanted to nominate him and to nominate him. What else do I need to do?”

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Sir John Barron  Jun 11, 2019 • 11:39:25am

re: #234 Sir John Barron

An agreement to implement an agreement in 45 days the future sometime whenever.

An agreement to enter into an agreement about an agreement to be implemented within 45 days never. We’ll wait till the news cycle passes on to something else.

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gocart mozart  Jun 11, 2019 • 12:06:29pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2019 • 12:08:39pm
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Dr. Matt  Jun 11, 2019 • 12:13:26pm

The thread is priceless:

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Dave In Austin  Jun 11, 2019 • 12:14:16pm

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 11, 2019 • 12:14:53pm

True.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2019 • 12:21:44pm
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DangerMan  Jun 11, 2019 • 12:27:58pm

DOJ in new letter to Cummings says Barr will ask Trump to invoke executive privilege over census docs unless the Oversight Committee backs off its contempt vote tomorrow.

so, not about the merits of the doc request
just ‘we got power and we gonna use it”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2019 • 12:30:19pm

re: #244 Charles Johnson

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so sad for them that it doesn’t work like that

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DangerMan  Jun 11, 2019 • 12:30:31pm

re: #245 DangerMan

DOJ in new letter to Cummings says Barr will ask Trump to invoke executive privilege over census docs unless the Oversight Committee backs off its contempt vote tomorrow.

so, not about the merits of the doc request
just ‘we got power and we gonna use it”

ps
threatening to ‘invoke’ ep unless…. - ie as some kind of bargaining tool, is pretty much prima facie that it is in fact not protected

you start at ep and work down, selectively agreeing to release stuff
not up…

(ianal)

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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2019 • 12:36:12pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jun 11, 2019 • 12:38:15pm

re: #234 Sir John Barron

An agreement to implement an agreement in 45 days the future sometime whenever.

That’s the same deal North Korea got isn’t it?

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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2019 • 12:42:28pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2019 • 12:52:12pm

jfc joe

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 11, 2019 • 12:52:34pm
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DangerMan  Jun 11, 2019 • 12:54:41pm

re: #250 Charles Johnson

Even if it’s just bad AI design you have to wonder about their development priorities if it ends up being this easy for bad people to exploit.

- sloppy
- careless
- attempting to legitimize all post/tweets as equal and starting from the same place of good faith

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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2019 • 12:56:09pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

Whenever I see one of these deep fakes I don’t feel so threatened by the technology, because I have yet to see one that I couldn’t immediately recognize as a fake.

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mmmirele  Jun 11, 2019 • 12:59:33pm

Scott Warren is being tried for providing water and help to migrants at the Arizona border.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:00:01pm

re: #251 Charles Johnson

Time has passed Joe by. I don’t think he’s a bad politician or statesman by any means, but he doesn’t seem to feel the pulse of the times.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:01:06pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

Whenever I see one of these deep fakes I don’t feel so threatened by the technology, because I have yet to see one that I couldn’t immediately recognize as a fake.

Yeah, the voice doesn’t like Zuckerberg at all, nor does the speaking pattern.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:01:48pm

re: #255 mmmirele

Scott Warren is being tried for providing water and help to migrants at the Arizona border.

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How could a jury not be 12-0 Not guilty on that?

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:02:18pm

re: #255 mmmirele

Scott Warren is being tried for providing water and help to migrants at the Arizona border.

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Hope it’s 11 to 1 for acquittal. Fear the opposite.

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mmmirele  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:03:02pm

re: #255 mmmirele

The prosecution must seriously want a conviction if they persuaded the judge to issue an Allen charge.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:03:35pm

re: #255 mmmirele

Scott Warren is being tried for providing water and help to migrants at the Arizona border.

They will try to make a case that one of those migrants who might have died of thirst could go on to terrorize, rape or murder.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:03:42pm

re: #258 Eclectic Cyborg

How could a jury not be 12-0 Not guilty on that?

Think Bundy hung jury

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:06:17pm

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will try to make a case that one of those migrants who might have died of thirst could go on to terrorize, rape or murder.

Or gone on to cure cancer

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:08:36pm

re: #263 Eventual Carrion

Or gone on to cure cancer

Remember what our Prez said, Mexico only sends us its rapists, they keep the doctors and researchers…

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mmmirele  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:08:36pm

re: #259 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Hope it’s 11 to 1 for acquittal. Fear the opposite.

Back in the 1990s, when I lived in Utah, Utah county prosecuted a guy for renting “hard R” movies put of the back of his video places. It went to the jury and *one guy* hung the jury, saying he could not judge whether the videos violated community standards.

The county put the defendant on trial again, and this time he had to go with appointed counsel since the first trial had bankrupted him. The attorney was a devout but savvy Mormon. He subpoenaed lists of what was showing on the pay per view at the upscale hotels near BYU. Voila! The hotels also served up “hard R” movies for rental. The defendant was acquitted.

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sagehen  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:09:29pm

I gave water to migrants crossing the Arizona desert. They charged me with a felony.
washingtonpost.com

My case in particular may set a dangerous precedent, as the government expands its definitions of “transportation” and “harboring.” The smuggling and harboring laws have always been applied selectively: with aggressive prosecutions of “criminal” networks but leniency for big agriculture and other politically powerful industries that employ scores of undocumented laborers. Now, the law may be applied to not only humanitarian aid workers but also to the millions of mixed-status families in the United States. Take, for instance, a family in which one member is undocumented and another member, who is a citizen, is buying the groceries and paying the rent. Would the government call that harboring? If this family were driving to a picnic in the park, would the government call that illegal transportation? Though this possibility would have seemed far-fetched a few years ago, it has become frighteningly real.

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DangerMan  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:14:04pm

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will try to make a case that one of those migrants who might have died of thirst could go on to terrorize, rape or murder.

perish the thought that one of those migrants could go on to do good works

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Sir John Barron  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:14:48pm

re: #255 mmmirele

Scott Warren is being tried for providing water and help to migrants at the Arizona border.

I guess it’s too much to hope that the jury would embarrass the government over this.

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DangerMan  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:15:58pm

re: #267 DangerMan

perish the thought that one of those migrants could go on to do good works

i see im late to the party againre: #263 Eventual Carrion

Or gone on to cure cancer

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Sir John Barron  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:22:31pm

re: #255 mmmirele

Scott Warren is being tried for providing water and help to migrants at the Arizona border.

I’m hoping the jurors are just like “Hey you think we should string the prosecution along, send a note out saying we’re still hung up?”

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:28:41pm

re: #241 Dr. Matt

The thread is priceless:

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It sure is!! What a moron. I thought Conservatives were opposed to snowflakes and whining.

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sagehen  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:29:13pm

Jurors only string the prosecution along when it’s a courthouse near some good restaurants and the bailiffs bring them a good lunch.

Otherwise, they want to make a decision and get out of there.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:29:24pm

As the Brexiteers continue to unravel the UK, the Guardian runs an editorial that hits the nail on the head:

The Tory contest shows that the Brexiters’ dream is dying before their very eyes

This has been the most stubborn, parochial delusion in Tory thinking on Brexit: the belief that it is an internal party matter; that solutions can be cooked up on the backbenches and dictated to the EU. In that view, Theresa May’s failing was not her lack of fluency in the language of European interests but her refusal to explain British demands loudly enough at the concessions counter in Brussels.

That misperception sabotaged diplomacy during the article 50 negotiations, and is now feeding complacency about a no-deal Brexit. The Tory contenders who claim to be relaxed about that scenario trade in two vast falsehoods. One is that willingness to rip up draft treaties and renege on financial commitments somehow makes a country more credible in international negotiations. The other is that going through with such a threat hastens the day when Britain can sign free-trade deals elsewhere.

There are many points of analogue between Trumpism and Brexit, and between the GOP and the Tories.

Regarding the latter, both parties are making delusional thinking the central rallying points of their politics.

The Brexiteers refuse to accept that in UK-EU negotiations, it’s the UK that has the weakest hands. And now the Tory party leadership feels the need to swallow this delusion, even though in the past many of them readily were anti-Brexiters.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:30:52pm

re: #266 sagehen

Keep in mind that the folk trying him for saving lives are probably all “pro-life” when it comes to forcing women to give birth. In their holy book, Jesus specifically talks about helping strangers.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:33:36pm

re: #270 Sir John Barron

I’m hoping the jurors are just like “Hey you think we should string the prosecution along, send a note out saying we’re still hung up?”

I’d like to think this, but I know there are dumb laws that can and do punish well meaning people for doing good things and I’m wondering if it’s a question of interpretation on this one i.e. how broadly does the jury think the law at issue should apply?

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DangerMan  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:36:49pm

re: #272 sagehen

Jurors only string the prosecution along when it’s a courthouse near some good restaurants and the bailiffs bring them a good lunch.

Otherwise, they want to make a decision and get out of there.

the blind and even hand of justice at work!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:36:51pm

Stupid UK headline of the day:

There is a chance we will be able to travel through dimensions and time

Why is it idiotic?

Because we already travel “through dimensions and time.”

The author of the article is probably well meaning, and he’s a well known science presenter in the UK, but headlines like that are simply clickbait.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:38:26pm

Global sea ice area is still at record lows:

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DangerMan  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:42:02pm

re: #275 Eclectic Cyborg

I’d like to think this, but I know there are dumb laws that can and do punish well meaning people for doing good things and I’m wondering if it’s a question of interpretation on this one i.e. how broadly does the jury think the law at issue should apply?

what scott warren did vs what trump does over and over every single day:

- in official acts as the president that are unarguably extra-constitutional
- in his capacity as a full participant in the trump org from which he never separated himself

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mmmirele  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:44:02pm

And the result for Scott Warren is a hung jury.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:47:25pm

re: #255 mmmirele

The jurors (or some of them) have consciences. Good.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:47:52pm

re: #280 mmmirele

Yay!! 😀

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:50:40pm

The impact of your bacon:

Des Moines: It’s a stinky distinction, but the state leads the nation when it comes to the amount of poop its people and livestock generate, research from a University of Iowa scientist shows. Christopher Jones, a UI research engineer, calculated Iowa’s population would be the equivalent of 168 million people, based on the waste from the state’s 3.2 million people and nearly 110 million chickens, pigs, turkeys and cattle. It’s about as many people as in Bangladesh, a country in south Asia. Factor in land size, and Iowa ranks first in the nation for waste creation, Jones writes in a blog he’s titled “50 Shades of Brown.” “Just to ensure clarity, in Iowa, we are generating as much fecal waste in every square mile as 2,979 people,” he says. “For reference, Iowa City is the second-most densely populated city in Iowa and has 2,775 people per square mile. So imagine an Iowa-sized Iowa City.”

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SteelPH  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:50:42pm

Maximum Nerd Activate!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:52:59pm

re: #281 Patricia Kayden

The jurors (or some of them) have consciences. Good.

As far as I can tell, none of those who proclaim themselves pro-life and demonstrate at planned parenthood clinics also supported Scott Warren. It seems that there is practically no overlap between those who care about the fetus and those who care about immigrants.

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Sea Mexican  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:53:10pm

re: #277 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Stupid UK headline of the day:

There is a chance we will be able to travel through dimensions and time

Why is it idiotic?

Because we already travel “through dimensions and time.”

The author of the article is probably well meaning, and he’s a well known science presenter in the UK, but headlines like that are simply clickbait.

Reminds me of the opinion piece the late Sir Terry Pratchett wrote, talking about spirituality without any religion in particular. The headline? “Sir Terry Pratchett finds God”. To which he quipped, “There is a rumour going around that I have found God. I think this is unlikely because I have enough difficulty finding my keys, and there is empirical evidence that they exist.”

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DangerMan  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:53:16pm

re: #283 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The impact of your bacon:

in Iowa, we are generating as much fecal waste in every square mile as 2,979 people

that’s why it has all that caucus clout

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:54:27pm

Getting back to climate change - we’re transition to the acceptance stage:

It Doesn’t Help to Believe No One Will Survive Climate Change

The author may mean well, and puts in boldface:

The point is to use all of this as a launch point for innovation and change

I suppose that is all fine and good, but it’s not as noble as it may sound.

The good thing to do is not mess up in the first place, especially when one had a choice to not mess up.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:55:13pm

re: #284 SteelPH

Good choices!

Have fun. :)

I’m stoked for Mario Maker later this month.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:55:31pm

re: #287 DangerMan

that’s why it has all that caucus clout

Never underestimate the power of bacon.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:56:37pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:58:43pm

Getting back to that climate-change-acceptance article:

Humans have 14,000 years of experience living in Florida and dealing with sea level rise, said Ken Sassaman, an archaeologist at the University of Florida who studies coastal dwellers in the area. “We have an incredible treasure trove archive of human experience dealing with sea level change. We ought to be tapping into that.”

Ok, but what did the few thousand Native Americans inhabiting lower-sea-level Florida do to “deal” with sea level rises?

They moved.

That’s the solution.

Now tell me how 40 million Americans moving is going to be the same, not to mention 10x that worldwide.

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DangerMan  Jun 11, 2019 • 1:59:15pm

re: #285 Hecuba’s daughter

As far as I can tell, none of those who proclaim themselves pro-life and demonstrate at planned parenthood clinics also supported Scott Warren. It seems that there is practically no overlap between those who care about the fetus and those who care about immigrants.

forget consistency, hypocrisy, religious freedom, whatever.

these people are neither “pro-life” nor even “anti-abortion”.
it’s a red herring and we shouldnt use it as a weapon or a gotcha

what they are for is any position, any twisted, bizarre interpretation, any law, that will allow them to instill in the blastocyst/zygote/embryo/fetus etc., the superior power to compel another actually existing and born human into subjugation to it.

and they want that power enforced by the state in their name.

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DangerMan  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:01:28pm

re: #290 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Never underestimate the power of bacon.

that too, though i meant cause they were more full of shit than the rest of the nation

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steve_davis  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:03:23pm

re: #110 Belafon

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Some needs to ask her what she thinks she can get done. Obama got two, the economy and health care. And McConnell is setting up the courts to act just like the ones FDR had to deal with.

Unlike the FDR era, a Democratic president with party control of the senate will do away with the procedural filibuster and then do a reduction in force on the federal courts, obliterating Trump’s picks. It will be nasty, but necessary. The country collectively isn’t going to sit by for 40 years waiting for a court change, when the popular will of the people was for Clinton to be president.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:04:29pm

re: #285 Hecuba’s daughter

Exactly, so they are not pro-life. Migrants lives would matter to them if they were.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:05:06pm

re: #293 DangerMan

Exactly.

Anti-abortionists are working out their existential crisis. They have to believe there is something magical in a zygote, or their religion falls down.

So to prop up their religion, and their religion’s dominance in society, they have to be anti-abortion. Because if they admit that a zygote does not magically get imbued with a “soul”, and if they give up the idea that each person was individually “knit together” (as in the famous psalm) by God… then they have a hard time ever arguing for a soul or for being special in the eyes of their God.

Anti-abortionism rose to prominence (in the late 1970’s) once the anti-evolutionists (who are mostly the same group as the anti-abortionists) started to realize how big they were failing in controlling education. That is not just a coincidence.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:07:00pm

re: #292 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Getting back to that climate-change-acceptance article:

Ok, but what did the few thousand Native Americans inhabiting lower-sea-level Florida do to “deal” with sea level rises?

They moved.

That’s the solution.

Now tell me how 40 million Americans moving is going to be the same, not to mention 10x that worldwide.

Unlike those living in poorer nations, these 40 million Americans can theoretically relocate to elsewhere within the US. So all those Northern retirees who migrated to Florida may return to their home states.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:08:31pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:10:32pm

re: #298 Hecuba’s daughter

Well, it will take a couple of centuries for sea level rise to force millions of Floridians elsewhere. I expect the populations to move the shortest distance possible, probably to places like Georgia, whose own coastal cities will be swamped too but there is plenty of land in the hinterland.

And we can’t assume what the US will be like in a century or so. If Trump has shown us anything, it is that the US is not immune to self-harming atavism.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:12:34pm

While the big basketball game dominated US television last night, I see that both Hannity and Tucker’s shows did quite well:

showbuzzdaily.com

Both are attracting more viewers these days. I don’t know what that means.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:13:13pm

Okay, this is pretty awesome:

On Tuesday, Radiohead guitarist and composer Jonny Greenwood made an announcement on Twitter and Facebook: The band had been “hacked,” and the perpetrator attempted a $150,000 shakedown to prevent the public release of the files. In response? Radiohead dumped all of it online for free. You can stream it below for the next 18 days, or buy it on Bandcamp for about $23. All proceeds will go to a climate protest organization called Extinction Rebellion.

Womp womp, you pirating, ransoming dumbasses.

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:16:50pm

re: #284 SteelPH

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Good games for a great system

Have you tried Warframe?

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:23:33pm
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Dread Pirate  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:24:11pm

.. on a side note, it’s hotter today than yesterday. It’s now 104 and we have 3 more hours before we’re over the peak. Yesterday we had a heat index of -1, today it’s +2.

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wrenchwench  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:26:48pm
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DangerMan  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:33:35pm

re: #306 wrenchwench

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mrs dm wont let me have little goatlets cause they grow up into goats

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wrenchwench  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:38:44pm

re: #307 DangerMan

mrs dm wont let me have little goatlets cause they grow up into goats

This is why grandchildren are better than children. Both kinds grow up, but you can hand off the grandchildren for a few years when they quit being cute, while they learn to behave.

Trouble is, you can’t start with the grandchildren. They gotta be second.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:45:33pm
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Dave In Austin  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:46:37pm

If you want it.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:46:44pm

re: #292 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Getting back to that climate-change-acceptance article:

Ok, but what did the few thousand Native Americans inhabiting lower-sea-level Florida do to “deal” with sea level rises?

They moved.

That’s the solution.

Now tell me how 40 million Americans moving is going to be the same, not to mention 10x that worldwide.

Yeah, the whole “Sell your house and move!”. To which that one clip answered, “Who is going to buy your fucking house!”.

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wrenchwench  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:48:53pm

re: #310 Dave In Austin

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If you want it.

Thanks, but with the look on that birb’s face, I better not take the orange.

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KGxvi  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:49:36pm

re: #308 wrenchwench

This is why grandchildren are better than children. Both kinds grow up, but you can hand off the grandchildren for a few years when they quit being cute, while they learn to behave.

Trouble is, you can’t start with the grandchildren. They gotta be second.

My uncle figured out how to start with grandchildren, his second wife had two kids in their late teens/early twenties when they got married.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:52:07pm

Wind from the west, 1-3 MPH. Cooling has started early.

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Old Liberal  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:52:15pm

re: #311 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, the whole “Sell your house and move!”. To which that one clip answered, “Who is going to buy your fucking house!”.

Not to mention that a huge percentage of those houses carry mortgages. Anyone remember what happened the last time there was a small amount of mortgage defaults? Small percentage wise.

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wrenchwench  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:52:52pm

re: #313 KGxvi

My uncle figured out how to start with grandchildren, his second wife had two kids in their late teens/early twenties when they got married.

One of my sisters married a guy with an 18 year old daughter, and I found it a little silly when sis suddenly joined Another Mother for …something.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:53:04pm

re: #315 Old Liberal

Not to mention that a huge percentage of those houses carry mortgages. Anyone remember what happened the last time there was a small amount of mortgage defaults? Small percentage wise.

Under water in more ways than one

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sagehen  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:54:15pm

re: #307 DangerMan

mrs dm wont let me have little goatlets cause they grow up into goats

Pygmy goats don’t grow large. Plus they’re super-cute.

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DangerMan  Jun 11, 2019 • 2:56:30pm

re: #318 sagehen

Pygmy goats don’t grow large. Plus they’re super-cute.

ima put em on my birthday list

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Old Liberal  Jun 11, 2019 • 3:00:28pm

re: #319 DangerMan

ima put em on my birthday list

Get females only. Males have many disgusting habits. Not sure if neutering solves the behaviors

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plansbandc  Jun 11, 2019 • 3:02:25pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 11, 2019 • 3:02:37pm

re: #307 DangerMan

mrs dm wont let me have little goatlets cause they grow up into goats

You can always rent them out to your local airport…

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jun 11, 2019 • 3:07:03pm

re: #307 DangerMan

mrs dm wont let me have little goatlets cause they grow up into goats

There are dwarf goats that stay very small.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2019 • 3:07:05pm

re: #311 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, the whole “Sell your house and move!”. To which that one clip answered, “Who is going to buy your fucking house!”.

By the middle of this century, the reinsurance industry is probably going to put its collective foot down and demand that no more insurance be written for properties which are within a few meters of sea level.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2019 • 3:07:43pm

Because your brain needs exercised:

A Journey to the End of the Universe

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 11, 2019 • 3:12:03pm

Good, if ever there was a case for jury nullification this was it.

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MsJ  Jun 11, 2019 • 3:21:19pm

To allow this person to follow me or to block a possible Russian asshole.

What say you?

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gocart mozart  Jun 11, 2019 • 3:29:38pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 11, 2019 • 3:31:21pm

Knew Grinston years ago while serving in Italy. He was a platoon sergeant in our ABCT’s artillery battery. Always found him to be very smart, lot of common sense.
Well, the common sense aspect can be subjective. I mean, coming from folks that enjoyed strapping ludicrous amounts of gear to our bodies, and then jumping out of reasonably good airplanes in the middle of the night.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 11, 2019 • 5:38:24pm

re: #318 sagehen

Pygmy goats don’t grow large. Plus they’re super-cute.

Yes but, how do you train them to use the litter box?


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