Trump Declares Himself Above the Law; Says He’d Accept Foreign Help in the Election and Wouldn’t Tell the FBI

“The FBI Director is wrong”
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Of course it’s not surprising any more, nothing that comes out of Donald Trump’s mouth is, but “stunning” may still apply — and he’s never been more brazen than this. Quite obviously, he feels he’s untouchable.

Maybe somebody should call Nancy Pelosi. On the red phone.

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KGxvi  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:20:49pm

In a sane world, this would be another article of impeachment

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:25:57pm
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Teukka  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:26:52pm

re: #1 KGxvi

In a sane world, this would be another article of impeachment

Modified quote from the “Chernobyl” miniseries.
“What does that mean? No one knows. It doesn’t matter. What does matter is that, to them, justice was done. Because, you see, to them, a just world is a sane world. There was nothing sane about Trump. What happened then, what happened after, even the good we did, all of it… all of it, madness. Well, I’ve given you everything I know. They’ll deny it, of course. They always do. I know you’ll try your best.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:29:00pm

When does she turn 35?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:30:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:36:12pm

and this eejit in amongst the responses:

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blueraven  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:36:33pm

Gramps done went and said the quiet parts out loud, again!

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stpaulbear  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:37:45pm

re: #1 KGxvi

In a sane world, this would be another article of impeachment

I’d say that it’s a pretty safe bet that the House and Senate Democrats are keeping an exhaustive list of articles. With footnotes. It must exist.

Maybe Nancy should flash a piece of paper to the press and announce that it’s a secret list of impeachment charges, and you can’t see it…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:39:07pm

THREAD

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William Lewis  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:43:59pm

From the last thread:

re: #73 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I only watch Hockey during the Olympics.

After years of careful study, I still can not determine how they manage to play the game without on-ice brawls

//

“I went to the fights on Saturday night and a hockey game broke out!”

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:44:14pm

Wake me up when the Democrats impeach the fucker. Better yet, just wake me up on election day since they won’t.

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bd (Emergency!)  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:44:37pm

OK China, you heard him. If you want Trump gone then he just said you can hand over your dirt on him to the dems.

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plansbandc  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:44:53pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

Those private prisons won’t fill themselves you know. They have to make sure of a steady flow of prisoners before the fat orange tyrant legalizes pot. All those desperate asylum seekers are great, of course, but he needs to hedge his bet.

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Interesting Times  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:45:33pm

!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:45:39pm
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stpaulbear  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:46:19pm

re: #9 The Vicious Babushka

I want to see Hugh Hewitt’s take on this in the WaPo.
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Actually, I only want to read the comments to Hugh Hewitt’s take on this in the WaPo.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:51:33pm

Impeach. Remove. Indict. Prosecute. Prison.

These are words that will foretell Trump and the rest of the Trump Crime Family is the next few years.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:51:43pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:51:52pm

I screwed up and missed my window between the thunderstorms to walk the dogs

The next window may open around 10 PM

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blueraven  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:52:32pm

Just Trump being Trump. Nothing to see here. Move along people. He really knows how to own the libs…haha.

Republicans, Right wing “media”.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:54:36pm

re: #16 stpaulbear

I want to see Hugh Hewitt’s take on this in the WaPo.
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Actually, I only want to read the comments to Hugh Hewitt’s take on this in the WaPo.

Hugh Hewitt will never stop kissing Trump’s ass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:54:43pm

re: #19 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I screwed up and missed my window between the thunderstorms to walk the dogs

The next window may open around 10 PM

I just had to open the umbrella at the back door before the goofy coonhound would step out to go pee (and she has to pee a lot since she’s been on Lasix for her congestive heart failure).

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 12, 2019 • 4:58:20pm

A view of the landing not provided during this morning livestream

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2019 • 5:05:41pm

He said he could shoot somebody on 5th Avenue in broad daylight and get away with it. But you know he would shoot them in the back.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 12, 2019 • 5:07:01pm

re: #24 The Vicious Babushka

He said he could shoot somebody on 5th Avenue in broad daylight and get away with it. But you know he would shoot them in the back.

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Oh why would he want to waste his precious time shooting anyone when his pal Vlad will just sprinkle some polonium in their tea?

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Belafon  Jun 12, 2019 • 5:08:10pm

re: #14 Interesting Times

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I agree. Impeachment won’t do a damn thing. It will take more.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jun 12, 2019 • 5:09:43pm

These recent Trump Tweets now reveal openly and premeditated treasonous behavior is now normalized.

At this point why aren’t prominent media types openly stating the obvious…

…that the 35% will support Trump no matter what as long as he promotes the White Male Power agenda.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 12, 2019 • 5:11:22pm

re: #27 Rocky-in-Connecticut

These recent Trump Tweets now reveal openly and premeditated treasonous behavior is now normalized.

At this point why aren’t prominent media types openly stating the obvious…

…that the 35% will support Trump no matter what as long as he promotes the White Male Power agenda.

Well remember who owns the media…and that’s why the American Presstitutes will continue with the “both sides do it” bullshit!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2019 • 5:12:02pm

re: #25 Joe Bacon 🌹

Oh why would he want to waste his precious time shooting anyone when his pal Vlad will just sprinkle some polonium in their tea?

or have them carry a bathtub up 3 flights of stairs with windows every step of the way…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2019 • 5:17:14pm

yep, it was fake news that Taft got stuck in the bathtub, but now…first time ever and it was the biggest bathtub…

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Amory Blaine  Jun 12, 2019 • 5:20:45pm

I think there should be a smear campaign against McConnell. With truthful smears alongside dubious allegations from fearless allied interests. Make that fuckers life as miserable as possible might make some movement in the senate. Pour money into Kentucky, billboards, tv ads, as many local appearances as possible.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2019 • 5:26:27pm

IT’S TOTALLY LEGAL TO GET OPPO RESEARCH EXCEPT HILLERY PAID FOR TEH DOSSER SO LOCKHERUP!!!!!!!

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2019 • 5:35:04pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2019 • 5:40:32pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 12, 2019 • 5:44:51pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 12, 2019 • 5:45:52pm

re: #1 KGxvi

In a sane world, this would be another article of impeachment

What the hell is Pelosi waiting for? Of course Trump would accept help from foreign entities to “win” again. He has suffered zero consequences from doing so in 2016. Look how much money he has made as President. Ditto his adult kids.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 12, 2019 • 5:49:22pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

Shocked, shocked I say

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Charles Johnson  Jun 12, 2019 • 5:52:40pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 12, 2019 • 5:53:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 12, 2019 • 5:55:35pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 12, 2019 • 5:57:10pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2019 • 5:58:43pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2019 • 5:59:18pm
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Belafon  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:01:40pm

re: #43 gocart mozart

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:01:43pm

Winner

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Belafon  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:02:17pm

I was going to say Trump caught with Elane, but I doubt Mitch actually cares.

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:03:45pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:06:08pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

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Well it is from Mail Security. That’s a government entity isn’t it?

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steve_davis  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:06:37pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

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well, it doesn’t look like they misspelled anything, so apparently you get a better class of phishers than I do.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:08:26pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:10:10pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:14:29pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:15:14pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:15:41pm
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Belafon  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:17:50pm

re: #4 The Vicious Babushka

When does she turn 35?

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She’s old enough to run for a House seat.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:22:10pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:26:50pm

re: #54 gocart mozart

Bowers v. Hardwick belongs on any short list of remarkably shitty SCOTUS decisions.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:27:56pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:28:01pm

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:28:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:28:55pm

He needs to be arrested and hopefully convicted of crimes that will have him die in a cell. I’m so sick of his mockery of the law and his cult of personality excusing him in everything. Fuck him and them.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:29:15pm

re: #58 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Santorum is such an asswipe.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:29:30pm

re: #60 The Vicious Babushka

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Pretty much.

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stpaulbear  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:29:56pm

re: #56 The Vicious Babushka

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:31:06pm
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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:31:33pm

re: #36 Patricia Kayden

What the hell is Pelosi waiting for? Of course Trump would accept help from foreign entities to “win” again. He has suffered zero consequences from doing so in 2016. Look how much money he has made as President. Ditto his adult kids.

Here’s woke Rick Wilson’s answer.

ETA: And that was before his “accept foreign help” statement.

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EPR-radar  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:31:40pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

He needs to be arrested and hopefully convicted of crimes that will have him die in a cell. I’m so sick of his mockery of the law and his cult of personality excusing him in everything. Fuck him and them.

In an ideal world, Trump would be drawn and quartered for the entertainment of a jeering mob.

Failing that, I’ll settle for him dying broke in prison.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:31:49pm

re: #65 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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He thinks everyone is as crooked as he is.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:33:10pm

re: #67 EPR-radar

In an ideal world, Trump would be drawn and quartered for the entertainment of a jeering mob.

Failing that, I’ll settle for him dying broke in prison.

Yeah there’s a large part of me that wants him to go Ceausecu style. But I’d settle for dying broke in prison.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:37:35pm
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MsJ  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:38:21pm

Woke or nah? 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:38:40pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:39:49pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:41:06pm

Former Stanford University head sailing coach gets “…two years of supervised release, including the first six months confined to his home, and a $10,000 fine…” and one day prison sentence (time served)
Prosecutor sought 13 months incarceration

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:41:13pm

re: #72 MsJ

Woke or nah? 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

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Rat finally figured out the ship is sinking. Don’t turn your back on her.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:44:11pm
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Amory Blaine  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:48:01pm

I dug up this little ditty I used to listen to. Replace Johnny with Donny and it’s topical

D.I. - Johnny’s Got A Problem

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:49:28pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:54:03pm

re: #66 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Okay. It’s hard to be patient when you’re watching a dangerous man take a hammer to our Constitution while his fellow Republicans cheer him on.

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:54:51pm
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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:59:20pm

re: #80 Patricia Kayden

Okay. It’s hard to be patient when you’re watching a dangerous man take a hammer to our Constitution while his fellow Republicans cheer him on.

Oh, yes. But we only get one shot.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 12, 2019 • 6:59:55pm

Some good news, for now. They’ll likely make into the Senate’s version of the bill

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2019 • 7:07:22pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2019 • 7:11:55pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 12, 2019 • 7:12:04pm

Unfortunately, our present administration does not believe in science. Europe is about to experience a golden age of scientific research and discovery.

Facebook Post

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mmmirele  Jun 12, 2019 • 7:18:24pm

re: #84 gocart mozart

Thank you for posting this! I remember reading about Caligula’s pleasure barges in Suetonius when I was at university but I never heard that they were found (and certainly by 1983, this should have been made obvious, but no). I’m sorry they got burned down, because I’m sure we could have found out a lot more from them today with better technology, but “war is hell.”

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2019 • 7:20:53pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 12, 2019 • 7:28:42pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 12, 2019 • 7:38:51pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 12, 2019 • 7:49:28pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 12, 2019 • 7:54:08pm

If Trump came out with a stamp which has glue that needs moisture, most people would spit on the wrong side.

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garzooma  Jun 12, 2019 • 7:54:41pm

Congressman Eric Swalwell has introduced H. R. 2424 the “Duty to Report Act” that requires campaigns to report offers of foreign help. This needs to be made a priority.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:00:08pm

If the dems dont move toward impeachment im going to consider not voting for any of them. Tired of this shit. You have my back, you support the pursuit of justice or im done with you. Im not supporting a party that doesn’t stand up to facism. We deserve better.

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:01:51pm

QAnon is gonna be lit

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William Lewis  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:02:14pm

re: #88 gocart mozart

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Really? This isn’t a joke? First Star Trek I’ll skip with no intention of ever watching then.

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Belafon  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:03:12pm

re: #94 I Would Prefer Not To

If the dems dont move toward impeachment im going to consider not voting for any of them. Tired of this shit. You have my back, you support the pursuit of justice or im done with you. Im not supporting a party that doesn’t stand up to facism. We deserve better.

Find me one that will do a better job right now.

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mmmirele  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:04:27pm

re: #88 gocart mozart

The only swearing I want to see in Trek is @swear_trek

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Belafon  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:06:43pm

re: #88 gocart mozart

I think a certain amount of swearing should be involved, even if the words are made up. I also think there should be more grime. Having been in the Navy, and been in a printing press, the Star Trek universe is way too clean.

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stpaulbear  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:06:48pm

re: #94 I Would Prefer Not To

If the dems dont move toward impeachment im going to consider not voting for any of them. Tired of this shit. You have my back, you support the pursuit of justice or im done with you. Im not supporting a party that doesn’t stand up to facism. We deserve better.

Of course, all this shit is happening because Democrats. Republicans are just doing what they do…

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Belafon  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:07:36pm

re: #100 stpaulbear

Of course, all this shit is happening because Democrats. Republicans are just doing what they do…

They exist in a vacuum, which is why people can choose not to vote for them.

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makeitstop  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:10:28pm

re: #94 I Would Prefer Not To

If the dems dont move toward impeachment im going to consider not voting for any of them. Tired of this shit. You have my back, you support the pursuit of justice or im done with you. Im not supporting a party that doesn’t stand up to facism. We deserve better.

That’ll help.

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William Lewis  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:14:36pm

re: #99 Belafon

I think a certain amount of swearing should be involved, even if the words are made up. I also think there should be more grime. Having been in the Navy, and been in a printing press, the Star Trek universe is way too clean.

Swearing would be fine. But I’d have a serious problem with his inherent violence porn polluting the Star Trek franchise.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:17:52pm

re: #102 makeitstop

That’ll help.

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If they want my support they need to earn it. Start by protecting the election. Act like our future depends on it. (Hint. Dont take months to take a vote about maybe holding some in contempt or getting mueller to testify. )

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:18:38pm

re: #102 makeitstop

That’ll help.

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If they want my support they need to earn it. Start by protecting the election. Act like our future depends on it. (Hint. Dont take months to take a vote about maybe holding some in contempt or getting mueller to testify. )

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stpaulbear  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:18:41pm

I’ve been wanting to get a bumper sticker now that says “I really like Elizabeth Warren, but I am going to crawl through broken glass to vote for any Democratic candidate that wins the primaries”.

I don’t care how small I have to make the font.

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teleskiguy  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:18:43pm

re: #94 I Would Prefer Not To

Nope. If you stay home then fuck you.

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teleskiguy  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:20:50pm

re: #106 stpaulbear

I’ve been wanting to get a bumper sticker now that says “I really like Elizabeth Warren, but I am going to crawl through broken glass to vote for any Democratic candidate that wins the primaries”.

I don’t care how small I have to make the font.

I would buy two of these, put one on my skis and another on my guitar case.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:21:34pm

re: #107 teleskiguy

Nope. If you stay home then fuck you.

Yes. You do have a point. Im going to sleep. This is all too fucking depressing to deal. Peace.

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stpaulbear  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:21:46pm

re: #105 I Would Prefer Not To

If they want my support they need to earn it. Start by protecting the election. Act like our future depends on it. (Hint. Dont take months to take a vote about maybe holding some in contempt or getting mueller to testify. )

Have you heard of HR 1, the first bill that was passed by the Democratic congress?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:24:24pm

re: #110 stpaulbear

Have you heard of HR 1, the first bill that was passed by the Democratic congress?

Nice start. But not enough. The only way at this point to get any attention is through impeachment. Use it or lose it.

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teleskiguy  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:27:16pm
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makeitstop  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:29:18pm

Nailed it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:30:15pm

re: #88 gocart mozart

“Klingon, motherfucker. Do you speak it?”

“Captain, Romulan Warbird off our port bow.”

“Hail those sons of bitches!”

“Eat phasers you pointy eared fuck muppets!”

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teleskiguy  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:31:10pm

re: #109 I Would Prefer Not To

Being ‘extremely online’ is a blessing and a curse. Make some time for you. Even spurts of six hours at a time being unplugged from the internet is beneficial.

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Belafon  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:36:32pm

re: #114 Eclectic Cyborg

“Klingon, motherfucker. Do you speak it?”

“Captain, Romulan Warbird off our port bow.”

“Hail those sons of bitches!”

“Eat phasers you pointy eared fuck muppets!”

I wouldn’t see the captain cussing, but “She’s givin’ it all she’s fuckin’ got, Captain!” would definitely be the proper way to say it.

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Mattand  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:38:56pm

re: #94 I Would Prefer Not To

If the dems dont move toward impeachment im going to consider not voting for any of them. Tired of this shit. You have my back, you support the pursuit of justice or im done with you. Im not supporting a party that doesn’t stand up to facism. We deserve better.

Oh, Jesus Fucking Christ..

People throwing shitfits like this is part of the fucking reason Trump got elected.

“I’m gonna fight fascism by making sure Trump gets elected again.”

Brilliant fucking plan.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:41:20pm

I will VOTE for any Democrat over Trump, including the Woo-Woo lady.

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stpaulbear  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:43:03pm

re: #118 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I will VOTE for any Democrat over Trump, including the Woo-Woo lady.

I don’t know who the Woo-Woo lady is, but I bet I’d like to vote for her…

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teleskiguy  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:44:56pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:51:20pm

re: #116 Belafon

I wouldn’t see the captain cussing, but “She’s givin’ it all she’s fuckin’ got, Captain!” would definitely be the proper way to say it.

“Damn it man, I’m a doctor, not a fucking bag boy.”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:52:35pm

re: #119 stpaulbear

I don’t know who the Woo-Woo lady is, but I bet I’d like to vote for her…

Marianne Williamson

Williamson dropped out of college her junior year in 1973 and moved to New York City, intending to pursue a career as a cabaret singer.

In 1979, after delving into A Course in Miracles, she returned to Houston, where she ran a combination metaphysical bookstore and coffeeshop.

In 1983 she moved to Los Angeles. She began regularly lecturing on A Course in Miracles in Los Angeles and New York City, and eventually in other cities in the U.S. and Europe as well.

She published her first book, A Return to Love: Reflections on the Principles of A Course in Miracles, in 1992.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:56:22pm

re: #122 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

A Course in Miracles.

The underlying premise of the work is the teaching that the greatest “miracle” that one may achieve in one’s life is the act of simply gaining a full “awareness of love’s presence” in one’s own life.
The author claimed that the book had been dictated to her word for word via “inner dictation” which came from Jesus.

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stpaulbear  Jun 12, 2019 • 8:58:40pm

re: #123 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Now I kind of hope that she doesn’t win any primaries.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 12, 2019 • 9:00:19pm

Trump won because he cheated and he’s not going to stop cheating until he’s removed from office. Impeachment is democrats accepting the fact that trump declared war a long time ago.

Now im really going to sleep.

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2019 • 9:02:04pm

The comments may contain many naked pictures of Melania, LOL

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Mattand  Jun 12, 2019 • 9:11:44pm

re: #125 I Would Prefer Not To

Trump won because he cheated and he’s not going to stop cheating until he’s removed from office. Impeachment is democrats accepting the fact that trump declared war a long time ago.

Now im really going to sleep.

Trump won due to a variety of factors, including people staying home because Clinton and the Democrats weren’t perfect, blameless angels.

Stay home if you want next year. If this fucker gets re-elected, you will share the blame in that happening.

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2019 • 9:18:07pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2019 • 9:23:34pm
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Amory Blaine  Jun 12, 2019 • 9:29:27pm

re: #125 I Would Prefer Not To

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2019 • 9:50:40pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 12, 2019 • 10:08:18pm

re: #124 stpaulbear

Now I kind of hope that she doesn’t win any primaries.

She ran against Ted Lieu in 2014 as an Independent.

What blew my mind was seeing Alan Grayson campaign for her along with the Berniebots and Jill Shills.

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Interesting Times  Jun 12, 2019 • 10:09:44pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 12, 2019 • 10:40:51pm

oh geez here we go again with wingnuts flogging the false equivalence of hillary legally purchasing oppo from a british company which ultimately got some of its info from russians (transmuted for the puposes of rhetoric into the somehow shocking act of “buying oppo from russians”),
all the while being completely unaware that what is against the law is an american political campaign accepting something of value from foreigners

paying brits for oppo != accepting campaign gift from russians

months ago already i went over and over this with wingnuts, citing them the language of the actual statute law, while all the while they went “but… but… hillary buying info from russians is just so sleazy!”

aaaarggh!

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teleskiguy  Jun 12, 2019 • 11:04:16pm

Another tweet for the inexplicable “Woke Joe Walsh” canon.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2019 • 11:21:30pm

re: #10 William Lewis

From the last thread:

re: #73 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I only watch Hockey during the Olympics.

After years of careful study, I still can not determine how they manage to play the game without on-ice brawls

//

“I went to the fights on Saturday night and a hockey game broke out!”

Ditto here, and for the same reason. I do not want to watch Boxing on Ice.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2019 • 11:27:26pm

re: #59 gocart mozart

Counter point from the Team America guys:

team america-freedom isn’t free

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teleskiguy  Jun 13, 2019 • 12:09:37am

His only formal education.

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sagehen  Jun 13, 2019 • 12:20:51am

re: #134 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

oh geez here we go again with wingnuts flogging the false equivalence of hillary legally purchasing oppo from a british company which ultimately got some of its info from russians (transmuted for the puposes of rhetoric into the somehow shocking act of “buying oppo from russians”),
all the while being completely unaware that what is against the law is an american political campaign accepting something of value from foreigners

paying brits for oppo != accepting campaign gift from russians

months ago already i went over and over this with wingnuts, citing them the language of the actual statute law, while all the while they went “but… but… hillary buying info from russians is just so sleazy!”

aaaarggh!

We’re pissed off at Trump for saying he’d accept the info from (hostile) foreign sources, make no effort to investigate if it’s true or not, he’d use it in the campaign and not call the FBI.

Hillary paid for oppo research that came partly from a foreign person (of an allied nation), passed it along to the FBI, and didn’t use it in the campaign (made sure none of it was released publicly until after the election).

So… she did sort of the exact opposite of what we’re pissed off about him saying he’d do.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 13, 2019 • 1:06:05am
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Dread Pirate  Jun 13, 2019 • 2:10:31am

Why are there no 4K HDR concerts on YouTube yet?!

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2019 • 3:01:39am

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not want to watch Boxing on Ice.

Why? That sounds amusing as hell!!

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2019 • 3:04:20am

Things are gettin’ hot in the Middle East. Really hot.

bbc.com

dailystar.co.uk [autoplay vid embedded at link]

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2019 • 3:46:01am

re: #143 Dr Lizardo

Things are gettin’ hot in the Middle East. Really hot.

bbc.com

dailystar.co.uk [autoplay vid embedded at link]

This is where having knowledgeable leadership in the WH would be invaluable. Instead we have a moron who consistently demonstrates he doesn’t know the difference between climate and weather.

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Chrysicat  Jun 13, 2019 • 3:48:14am

(Basically, at this point in time, I would be loath to believe the Iranians were actually first-striking unless the Ayatollah went on live TV to take blame, and possibly not even then).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 4:29:06am

re: #142 MsJ

I do not want to watch Boxing on Ice.

Why? That sounds amusing as hell!!

Then call it boxing on ice and not National Hockey League

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 13, 2019 • 4:29:32am

re: #126 gocart mozart

Isn’t it lovely how Candace has fully embraced White Supremacy? To be honest, I can’t think of even one Black Conservative who isn’t anti-Black. It’s like they have to be pro-racism to get any recognition among Conservatives.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2019 • 4:33:32am

re: #147 Patricia Kayden

Isn’t it lovely how Candace has fully embraced White Supremacy? To be honest, I can’t think of even one Black Conservative who isn’t anti-Black. It’s like they have to be pro-racism to get any recognition among Conservatives.

Maybe she’s hoping to get into White Heaven.

Boondocks - ‘White’ Heaven

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 13, 2019 • 4:35:16am

re: #144 HappyWarrior

This is where having knowledgeable leadership in the WH would be invaluable. Instead we have a moron who consistently demonstrates he doesn’t know the difference between climate and weather.

Are they recycling an old 1964 script as the new shiny object to distract from yesterday’s disastrous Stephanopoulos interview?

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2019 • 4:38:49am

re: #147 Patricia Kayden

Isn’t it lovely how Candace has fully embraced White Supremacy? To be honest, I can’t think of even one Black Conservative who isn’t anti-Black. It’s like they have to be pro-racism to get any recognition among Conservatives.

Including Clarence Thomas.

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jeffreyw  Jun 13, 2019 • 4:51:51am

Good morning!

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steve_davis  Jun 13, 2019 • 5:06:48am

re: #70 HappyWarrior

Yeah there’s a large part of me that wants him to go Ceausecu style. But I’d settle for dying broke in prison.

according to Deutche Bank, he’s already broke. According to Plato’s Republic, he’s already in prison (“Allegory of the Cave” shows that philosophers have been working around tenured morons for all of history).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 5:10:06am

re: #70 HappyWarrior

Yeah there’s a large part of me that wants him to go Ceausecu style. But I’d settle for dying broke in prison.

Even in my most optimistic mode, the best I think we can hope for is that he is run off the political stage. Even if he loses his all his money, he will still have a lucrative career giving speeches, appearances and putting his name on books that other people write for him.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 13, 2019 • 5:11:48am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Plus, we’re going to have to listen to the magats praise him like their counterparts praised ‘saint’ reagan.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jun 13, 2019 • 5:15:32am

re: #150 MsJ

Including Clarence Thomas.

Watch Tarantino’s Django Unchained to see Samuel L Jackson’s magnificent portrayal of this particular mindset in action, and the lengths to which these types of people will go to remain within their social status.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 5:18:37am

re: #154 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Plus, we’re going to have to listen to the magats praise him like their counterparts praised ‘saint’ reagan.

Reagan was a saint, but Trump will be promoted to the status of Holy Martyr.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2019 • 5:44:24am

re: #147 Patricia Kayden

Isn’t it lovely how Candace has fully embraced White Supremacy? To be honest, I can’t think of even one Black Conservative who isn’t anti-Black. It’s like they have to be pro-racism to get any recognition among Conservatives.

The thing about Candice is she’s a giant fraud. Guarantee that down the road, she’ll try to repudiate her ties to this and say she was “shocked” by the racism on the right.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2019 • 5:44:42am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Even in my most optimistic mode, the best I think we can hope for is that he is run off the political stage. Even if he loses his all his money, he will still have a lucrative career giving speeches, appearances and putting his name on books that other people write for him.

Let a guy dream.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 5:49:02am

re: #158 HappyWarrior

Let a guy dream.

I would love to see your dream come true, but my optimism is sorely tested these days…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 5:49:29am

re: #157 HappyWarrior

The thing about Candice is she’s a giant fraud. Guarantee that down the road, she’ll try to repudiate her ties to this and say she was “shocked” by the racism on the right.

At some point they will turn on her.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 13, 2019 • 5:50:35am

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

At some point they will turn on her.

Useful idiot like Shapiro. One of the “enemy others” but can be exploited since they back the proper talking points. And can be discarded as necessary when the time comes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 5:51:43am

re: #161 Feline Fearless Leader

Useful idiot like Shapiro. One of the “enemy others” but can be exploited since they back the proper talking points. And can be discarded as necessary when the time comes.

Milo is trying to make a comeback…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:00:39am

“The Prince of Whales”

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Old Liberal  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:02:56am

re: #163 The Vicious Babushka

“The Prince of Whales”

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Fantastic. Stable genius indeed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:04:00am

re: #163 The Vicious Babushka

“The Prince of Whales”

Moby-Dick could not be reached for comment…

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:05:43am

re: #165 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Moby-Dick could not be reached for comment…

Surprised the nuts have not come out of the woodwork against Melville and Ahab. Arabic-sounding guy hunting the “white whale”.
///

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:12:49am

re: #166 Feline Fearless Leader

Surprised the nuts have not come out of the woodwork against Melville and Ahab. Arabic-sounding guy hunting the “white whale”.
///

“Call me Ismail”

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:18:47am

re: #155 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Watch Tarantino’s Django Unchained to see Samuel L Jackson’s magnificent portrayal of this particular mindset in action, and the lengths to which these types of people will go to remain within their social status.

Great movie. I think all of Tarantino’s flicks are good.

Perhaps I am alone but Tarantino doing Star Trek? FUCK YEAH. BRING IT.

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:21:00am

re: #158 HappyWarrior

Let a guy dream.

May he be constantly harassed by his creditors.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:26:56am

re: #161 Feline Fearless Leader

Useful idiot like Shapiro. One of the “enemy others” but can be exploited since they back the proper talking points. And can be discarded as necessary when the time comes.

Exactly.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:27:15am
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Belafon  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:31:44am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:37:04am

re: #171 The Vicious Babushka

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News flash, you were never trusted in the first place. You’re just a fucking Putin pawn.

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:42:35am
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MsJ  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:45:11am

Jeez. I wanted to get Queen + Adam Lambert tickets. Detroit is sold out. Toronto is sold out. Chicago? Only the $850.00 per ticket seats are left.

Seriously?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:47:48am

re: #175 MsJ

Jeez. I wanted to get Queen + Adam Lambert tickets. Detroit is sold out. Toronto is sold out. Chicago? Only the $850.00 per ticket seats are left.

Seriously?

My granddaughter wants “Hamilton” tickets for her birthday.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:50:29am

re: #157 HappyWarrior

The thing about Candice is she’s a giant fraud. Guarantee that down the road, she’ll try to repudiate her ties to this and say she was “shocked” by the racism on the right.

She will never say that and Diamond & Silk won’t either. 50 years from now these Three Stooges will continue to embrace racist white Republicans!

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:51:23am

re: #176 The Vicious Babushka

My granddaughter wants “Hamilton” tickets for her birthday.

I would like Hamilton tickets for *my* birthday! It’s right around the corner, too.

They are still equally expensive. My favorite of all tickets are “restricted view” or whatever they are called (where something, like a column, is in your line of sight…perfect for not seeing what you want to see) and those are still a couple hundred bucks.

Whatever. Someday.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:51:33am

re: #163 The Vicious Babushka

“The Prince of Whales”

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Oh I think it’s more accurate to call President Shithead the “Prince of Wails’!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:53:48am

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:55:52am

THIS.

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:57:50am

The UK is fucked.

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DangerMan  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:59:28am

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DangerMan  Jun 13, 2019 • 6:59:49am

re: #180 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Damn!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 7:01:09am

So the UK is going over the Brexit cliff without a deal.

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2019 • 7:02:08am

Heartbreaking.

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2019 • 7:04:39am

Fandom pays off.

A Blues fan took a big risk and it paid off in the form of $100,000

When the Blues were thought to be a bottom-feeding team, Scott Berry placed a bet of $400 on them to win the Stanley Cup. The longshot odds meant he stood to make a lot of money, and his gut told him not to hedge or sell his ticket. It turned out his gut was right.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2019 • 7:11:37am

re: #177 Joe Bacon 🌹

She will never say that and Diamond & Silk won’t either. 50 years from now these Three Stooges will continue to embrace racist white Republicans!

When their cash flow runs out, I bet they will. They’re all pawns of racist wealthy white assholes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 13, 2019 • 7:20:19am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2019 • 7:22:44am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

NOT A CRIME! NOT ILLEGAL! LOCK HER UP!!!

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2019 • 7:24:22am

re: #182 MsJ

The UK is fucked.

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Well, our American cousins elected a crazy guy, maybe we can do the same and see how it all turns out.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2019 • 7:26:46am

re: #163 The Vicious Babushka

“The Prince of Whales”

Oh, so he’s saying that if a foreign government came to him with dirt on an opponent and he contacted the FBI, the foreign gov would never trust him again?

Is that seriously what he’s saying?

MAGA but don’t call the FBI.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2019 • 7:28:09am

re: #157 HappyWarrior

The thing about Candice is she’s a giant fraud. Guarantee that down the road, she’ll try to repudiate her ties to this and say she was “shocked” by the racism on the right.

“I am shocked, shocked, that there is gambling in this establishment.”

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lizardofid  Jun 13, 2019 • 7:28:23am

re: #178 MsJ

I would like Hamilton tickets for *my* birthday! It’s right around the corner, too.

They are still equally expensive. My favorite of all tickets are “restricted view” or whatever they are called (where something, like a column, is in your line of sight…perfect for not seeing what you want to see) and those are still a couple hundred bucks.

Whatever. Someday.

I would love to see Hadestown. I was looking at ticket prices a few weeks back, and there were some reasonable seats available. But, I guess after the Tony’s they may be getting tougher.

Oh, good morning!

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 13, 2019 • 7:30:09am

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 13, 2019 • 7:32:55am

re: #189 The Vicious Babushka

… very successfully purporting to be a Russian Operative

Sigh.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2019 • 7:37:22am

re: #93 garzooma

Congressman Eric Swalwell has introduced H. R. 2424 the “Duty to Report Act” that requires campaigns to report offers of foreign help. This needs to be made a priority.

Oh, I’m sure Senator Turtle will bottle this up, not permit it to come to the Senate floor for a vote, because of course he won’t.

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wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2019 • 7:38:07am

re: #196 Colère Tueur de Lapin

… very successfully purporting to be a Russian Operative

Sigh.

Was it Ivanka?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2019 • 7:39:03am

re: #89 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

He’s been siding with Russian intelligence over our own since before he was *elected*. But yeah

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 13, 2019 • 7:39:33am

re: #147 Patricia Kayden

Isn’t it lovely how Candace has fully embraced White Supremacy? To be honest, I can’t think of even one Black Conservative who isn’t anti-Black. It’s like they have to be pro-racism to get any recognition among Conservatives.

How about Senator Tim Scott? Not very often, but hasn’t he derailed a couple nominations?

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DangerMan  Jun 13, 2019 • 7:50:43am

as to the OP:

- of course trump is wrong w/r/t Wray and everything else about this moronic statement.

- however saying it, even on national tv, is not the same as doing it

- and like with so many other things we’re finding out because they are pushing the limits to, well, the limit….
- this is very hard to prove
- and even then, who’s gonna prosecute?

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bd (Emergency!)  Jun 13, 2019 • 7:53:12am

It must be really disheartening to try and gin up a war with Iran and have the boss ruin it all by distracting the world with his embarrassing tweets.

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2019 • 7:55:37am

re: #194 lizardofid

I would love to see Hadestown. I was looking at ticket prices a few weeks back, and there were some reasonable seats available. But, I guess after the Tony’s they may be getting tougher.

Oh, good morning!

Morning!

I would think if Hadestown tickets were going to go up, they would have done so at nomination time. Maybe again now but you might not be so bad off.

Let us know what you thought of it. I thought the plot sounded weird AF.

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gocart mozart  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:00:14am
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MsJ  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:03:50am

re: #204 gocart mozart

The responses are hysterical. The GIFs. Dying!

I shouldn’t laugh…but I am. LMAO, to be frank.

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DangerMan  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:04:01am

re: #197 Sir John Barron

Oh, I’m sure Senator Turtle will bottle this up, not permit it to come to the Senate floor for a vote, because of course he won’t.

as we were discussing yesterday w/r/t mcconnell and his constitutional obligations

- one of his jobs is setting the legislative agenda
- i’d argue that his sitting on everything is, in fact, keeping us from having a legislative agenda

- do we really want to argue that having no agenda is an agenda?
- that zero is a number?
sure it is. of sorts. still we all know that’s not what anybody meant when they wrote the thing. congress was supposed to do a job - process it, debate it, argue it, vote on it.. not merely show up, block everything, and collect a paycheck because ‘we dont like anything the other house has done’.

- i think its post hoc rationalizing - “sure we can read the constitution like that”
- though when in the past would anyone have come up with that interpretation?
- it’s perverted pretzel logic, trying to rationalize something that can’t be

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:05:25am

re: #187 MsJ

I think that fan is lying. There is no way he let that wager get to game 7 and didn’t hedge for a guaranteed profit of around $50K. I don’t believe him.

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gocart mozart  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:08:03am
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lizardofid  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:08:17am

re: #203 MsJ

Morning!

I would think if Hadestown tickets were going to go up, they would have done so at nomination time. Maybe again now but you might not be so bad off.

Let us know what you thought of it. I thought the plot sounded weird AF.

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gocart mozart  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:08:50am
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gocart mozart  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:09:21am
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gocart mozart  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:09:40am
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gocart mozart  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:10:06am
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gocart mozart  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:10:22am
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retired cynic  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:12:35am

re: #138 teleskiguy

His only formal education.

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Beautiful eyes.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:14:51am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:17:19am

re: #210 gocart mozart

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Shouldn’t be happening in the self fancied best country in the world. The little girl is a sweet kid and the world could use more people like her but I’m not heart warmed. I’m bothered that we send men and women off to war and because we’re full of tightwad assholes who complain mah tax dollars, we have to have children helping disabled vets.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:18:07am

re: #216 Patricia Kayden

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He’s scared. I’m gradually warming to Biden since I think Biden could be a knockout punch to Trump.

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:19:31am

re: #206 DangerMan

as we were discussing yesterday w/r/t mcconnell and his constitutional obligations

- one of his jobs is setting the legislative agenda
- i’d argue that his sitting on everything is, in fact, keeping us from having a legislative agenda

- do we really want to argue that having no agenda is an agenda?
- that zero is a number?
sure it is. of sorts. still we all know that’s not what anybody meant when they wrote the thing. congress was supposed to do a job - process it, debate it, argue it, vote on it.. not merely show up, block everything, and collect a paycheck because ‘we dont like anything the other house has done’.

- i think its post hoc rationalizing - “sure we can read the constitution like that”
- though when in the past would anyone have come up with that interpretation?
- it’s perverted pretzel logic, trying to rationalize something that can’t be

That interpretation fails because the constitution doesn’t say things like “And on the Thursday of the Sixth month, the Senate Shall name a Post Office.” It is the job of the legislators to address issues of the United States, including oversight of the president. And that is where McConnell is failing to do his job. And it’s because of the second part that we are currently in trouble.

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:20:09am

Ooops. Mistaken post.

‘Morning, Lizards! I’m not awake yet.

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:20:43am

re: #216 Patricia Kayden

Ultimately, short of something extreme, I don’t see Trum losing here in Texas. Beto was tied with Cruz close to the election. But let him be scared.

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DangerMan  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:23:14am

re: #216 Patricia Kayden

Pres. Trump reveals historic redesign of Air Force One during exclusive one-on-one

- less range
- no in flight refueling

ps - department of redundancy department asks can a ‘one-on-one’ not be exclusive?

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:24:20am

re: #222 DangerMan

- less range
- no in flight refueling

ps - department of redundancy department asks can a ‘one-on-one’ not be exclusive?

Is someone watching from the closet?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:24:20am

re: #221 Belafon

Ultimately, short of something extreme, I don’t see Trum losing here in Texas. Beto was tied with Cruz close to the election. But let him be scared.

people have been growing more aware of Trump’s mental illnesses and less impressed with his self-lauded “accomplishments” since 2018

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:24:39am

re: #218 HappyWarrior

He’s scared. I’m gradually warming to Biden since I think Biden could be a knockout punch to Trump.

I am for ANYONE who knocks this motherfucker out. And then sends his ass to prison for life, taking all his worldly goods making paupers out of his entire corrupt family.

While I really, really disliked Bush 2, it is nothing compared to how much I hate this guy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:25:17am

re: #222 DangerMan

-

ps - department of redundancy department asks can a ‘one-on-one’ not be exclusive?

exclusive in that only one network gets to have a one-on-one with him

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:26:37am

re: #225 MsJ

I am for ANYONE who knocks this motherfucker out. And then sends his ass to prison for life, taking all his worldly goods making paupers out of his entire corrupt family.

While I really, really disliked Bush 2, it is nothing compared to how much I hate this guy.

And sends Ivana’s children to prison for life too!

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DangerMan  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:27:59am

re: #219 Belafon

That interpretation fails because the constitution doesn’t say things like “And on the Thursday of the Sixth month, the Senate Shall name a Post Office.” It is the job of the legislators to address issues of the United States, including oversight of the president. And that is where McConnell is failing to do his job. And it’s because of the second part that we are currently in trouble.

yup
what it ‘says’ vs what we (and they) all know it means and their jobs are, or always were until 2 years ago

further, w/r/t to oversight, it’s the same argument - zero oversight is a form of oversight

no, of course it’s not. it’s lack of oversight

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DangerMan  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:29:45am

re: #226 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

exclusive in that only one network gets to have a one-on-one with him

you’re not helping ;-)

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gocart mozart  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:30:22am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:31:30am

re: #229 DangerMan

you’re not helping ;-)

just clarifying that one thing he said is not total nonsense

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:34:56am

re: #224 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

people have been growing more aware of Trump’s mental illnesses and less impressed with his self-lauded “accomplishments” since 2018

I hope so, but I’ve heard from an engineer here at my job, a woman no less, say that we can suck it up and deal with Trump because she had to suffer through eight years of Obama.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:35:58am

re: #219 Belafon

That interpretation fails because the constitution doesn’t say things like “And on the Thursday of the Sixth month, the Senate Shall name a Post Office.” It is the job of the legislators to address issues of the United States, including oversight of the president. And that is where McConnell is failing to do his job. And it’s because of the second part that we are currently in trouble.

And you can’t interpret it any much else than failure given how the same Senate leadership behaved when there was a different occupant of the White House.

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gocart mozart  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:38:03am
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wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:39:02am

It’s linked to a NYT article. I’ve met the author/photographer. Nice work.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:44:31am

re: #145 Chrysicat

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(Basically, at this point in time, I would be loath to believe the Iranians were actually first-striking unless the Ayatollah went on live TV to take blame, and possibly not even then).

I think one of our pipsqueak “allies” in the Gulf is behind this. Divers attaching limpet mines in port is gangster stuff, ridiculously unconvincing as well as risky. There is no reason at all the Iranians would do it even if they did want to attack. We have actual Russian torpedoes and sea mines like the ones the Iranians use. We could do a lot better if we wanted to fake an Iranian attack.

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wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:45:04am

And for those who prefer the smol, a thread of kittens. I present the last one (so far).

OK, two or three.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:51:34am

re: #208 gocart mozart

OK, but it’s possible the Crown arranged for him to meet someone who goes about calling himself or herself the Prince of Whales but who is in reality a game show host Loser.

///

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:52:02am

re: #225 MsJ

I am for ANYONE who knocks this motherfucker out. And then sends his ass to prison for life, taking all his worldly goods making paupers out of his entire corrupt family.

While I really, really disliked Bush 2, it is nothing compared to how much I hate this guy.

Bush 2 I honestly feel was someone very wrong on policy and careless even but not someone who sought power above all else. That to me is the biggest difference between Trump and his predecessors. Trump is all about Trump. Bush was willing to listen to the other side without delegitimization.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:53:08am

re: #239 HappyWarrior

Bush 2 I honestly feel was someone very wrong on policy and careless even but not someone who sought power above all else. That to me is the biggest difference between Trump and his predecessors. Trump is all about Trump. Bush was willing to listen to the other side without delegitimization.

and I even supported his approach to immigration reform, although his own party did not back him.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:53:27am

Satan burgers? Wiles is a noted Russian sycophant so I wonder if this signals a new direction for the Kremlin provocation campaign?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:55:01am

re: #241 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Satan burgers? Wiles is a noted Russian sycophant so I wonder if this signals a new direction for the Kremlin provocation campaign?

I am assuming this has more to do with the beef lobby than with Russia

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:56:19am

re: #241 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Satan burgers? Wiles is a noted Russian sycophant so I wonder if this signals a new direction for the Kremlin provocation campaign?

[Embedded content]

My wife eats Beyond Burgers, so I guess she’s safe.

And as a confirmed carnivore, I’m here to tell you those are pretty damn good.

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wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:58:07am

re: #243 makeitstop

My wife eats Beyond Burgers, so I guess she’s safe.

And as a confirmed carnivore, I’m here to tell you those are pretty damn good.

Have you had your DNA checked? Screened for soul or lack of soul?

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:59:33am

re: #244 wrenchwench

Have you had your DNA checked? Screened for soul or lack of soul?

I’m pretty sure I was born without the soul gene.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 8:59:36am

I have not seen or heard of impossible meat here in Germany, although I actually prefer veggie burgers unless they are coming off the barbecue grill.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:00:50am

re: #239 HappyWarrior

Bush 2 I honestly feel was someone very wrong on policy and careless even but not someone who sought power above all else. That to me is the biggest difference between Trump and his predecessors. Trump is all about Trump. Bush was willing to listen to the other side without delegitimization.

W was also personable and could genuinely show care and empathy for others. Sometimes at least.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:01:00am

re: #244 wrenchwench

Have you had your DNA checked? Screened for soul or lack of soul?

I listen to some Al Green every day to replenish my soul.

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:02:34am

re: #244 wrenchwench

Have you had your DNA checked? Screened for soul or lack of soul?

The status of my soul was in question prior to ingestion. :)

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:03:19am

re: #243 makeitstop

My wife eats Beyond Burgers, so I guess she’s safe.

And as a confirmed carnivore, I’m here to tell you those are pretty damn good.

My preference is portobello burgers. I stopped eating red meat 25 years ago and have no interest in vegetarian/vegan dishes that mimic meat. Are Satan burgers just seitan burgers?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:03:45am

re: #247 Eclectic Cyborg

W was also personable and could genuinely show care and empathy for others. Sometimes at least.

He just had Dick Cheney regularly sucking out his soul and spitting it into a waste paper basket.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:04:24am

re: #250 Hecuba’s daughter

My preference is portobello burgers. I stopped eating red meat 25 years ago and have no interest in vegetarian/vegan dishes that mimic meat. Are Satan burgers just seitan burgers?

Black bean burgers are good as well.

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wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:04:31am

re: #248 Eventual Carrion

I listen to some Al Green every day to replenish my soul.

The Reverend Al Green? That’s a twofer.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:06:15am

re: #246 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have not seen or heard of impossible meat here in Germany, although I actually prefer veggie burgers unless they are coming off the barbecue grill.

I’ve never heard of them here in Czech Republic, though I’d imagine it’d go over like a turd in the punchbowl. Czechs are serious carnivores, though there are vegetarians/vegans here. We do have a vegan restaurant here in Ostrava - it’s run by the local branch of the Hare Krishnas. It’s not bad at all and during lunch, it’s often crowded, mostly because they run an almost unbeatable lunch special deal.

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gocart mozart  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:06:24am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:09:30am

re: #254 Dr Lizardo

I’ve never heard of them here in Czech Republic, though I’d imagine it’d go over like a turd in the punchbowl. Czechs are serious carnivores, though there are vegetarians/vegans here. We do have a vegan restaurant here in Ostrava - it’s run by the local branch of the Hare Krishnas. It’s not bad at all and during lunch, it’s often crowded, mostly because they run an almost unbeatable lunch special deal.

Yes, veganism is picking up, we have a tofu farm down the road that does a land-office business and those who are vegetarian/vegan are pretty damn serious about it

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:10:00am

re: #250 Hecuba’s daughter

My preference is portobello burgers. I stopped eating red meat 25 years ago and have no interest in vegetarian/vegan dishes that mimic meat. Are Satan burgers just seitan burgers?

My issue with any kind of alternate burgers is texture - if it doesn’t chew like meat, I can’t eat it.

Beyond Burgers are the closest in texture to beef, and they’re pretty tasty to boot. How they did it with a mixture of beets and peas is a mystery, but I find them edible.

My wife is always looking for substitutes that I’ll eat every once in a while. Beyond Burgers pass the test for beef, and she buys Quorn as a chicken substitute. That is also very similar in texture to chicken.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:10:21am

re: #255 gocart mozart

Automatic paper plane gun

needs a steam catapult!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:10:37am

re: #247 Eclectic Cyborg

W was also personable and could genuinely show care and empathy for others. Sometimes at least.

Yeah and he could laugh at himself.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:11:22am

re: #256 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, veganism is picking up, we have a tofu farm down the road that does a land-office business and those who are vegetarian/vegan are pretty damn serious about it

I know only a couple of truly hardcore vegans in my neck of the woods. As far as I’m concerned, it’s always nice to have multiple culinary options.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:11:24am

re: #259 HappyWarrior

Yeah and he could laugh at himself.

He did not lash out at his critics over his morning constitutional…

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William Lewis  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:18:08am

re: #257 makeitstop

My issue with any kind of alternate burgers is texture - if it doesn’t chew like meat, I can’t eat it.

Beyond Burgers are the closest in texture to beef, and they’re pretty tasty to boot. How they did it with a mixture of beets and peas is a mystery, but I find them edible.

My wife is always looking for substitutes that I’ll eat every once in a while. Beyond Burgers pass the test for beef, and she buys Quorn as a chicken substitute. That is also very similar in texture to chicken.

Look for some walnut burgers. Those are the ones I like best, especially with a slice of swiss cheese on them.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:18:54am

re: #262 William Lewis

Walnut burgers huh? Sounds intriguing. I may try to hunt some down myself.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:19:14am

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He did not lash out at his critics over his morning constitutional…

I mean he was a bad President but he wasn’t lacking some good qualities. You brought up his immigration. I’ll bring up his African policy and imo genuine belief in democratic and republican government. Trump? Trump is a demagogue asshole who has no concept of anything that isn’t about him.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:19:41am

re: #257 makeitstop

I read an article not that long ago saying that those beyond burgers are not really healthy at all.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:21:33am

re: #264 HappyWarrior

never thought I’d see the day where we’d be discussing the fact that W was not the worst president we’ve had. But it’s true, he was personable and while I disagreed with him on nearly everything he was nowhere near as bad as this.

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DangerMan  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:21:39am

re: #232 Belafon

I hope so, but I’ve heard from an engineer here at my job, a woman no less, say that we can suck it up and deal with Trump because she had to suffer through eight years of Obama.

- because disagreements on policy is exactly the same thing as cognitively unfit for the job

- and if he is in fact impaired, how’s he ‘getting away with it’
- does everyone around him not know?
- of course they do
- they’re compensating and covering

so is your friend ok with people making the decisions not being the elected leader?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:23:23am

re: #265 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I read an article not that long ago saying that those beyond burgers are not really healthy at all.

Yeouch.

That’s quite the take down.

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DangerMan  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:24:03am

re: #233 Feline Fearless Leader

And you can’t interpret it any much else than failure given how the same Senate leadership behaved when there was a different occupant of the White House.

this is getting into “a few good men” territory

Corporal, would you turn to the page in this book that says where the mess hall is, please?

Lieutenant Kaffee, that’s not in the book, sir.

You mean to say in all your time at Gitmo you’ve never had a meal?

No, sir. Three squares a day, sir.

I don’t understand. How did you know where the mess hall was if it’s not in this book?

Well, I guess I just followed the crowd at chow time, sir.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:24:14am

re: #266 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

never thought I’d see the day where we’d be discussing the fact that W was not the worst president we’ve had. But it’s true, he was personable and while I disagreed with him on nearly everything he was nowhere near as bad as this.

And he was not a traitor whose loyalty was to an enemy autocrat.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:24:48am

re: #269 DangerMan

this is getting into “a few good men” territory

Well, we know Trump can’t handle the truth…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:24:55am

Eons does an excellent summary of the history of theory of Evolution:

How Evolution Works (And How We Figured It Out)

And yes, the creationists come out in the comments.

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DangerMan  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:26:01am

re: #234 gocart mozart

I’m speaking with reporters live at the Capitol.

and here’s something we all sort of take for granted

she will easily talk to lots of reporters most any time

no fear, no set up, no rules

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:27:16am

re: #273 DangerMan

Kind of like Presidents used to…

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:29:12am

re: #265 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I read an article not that long ago saying that those beyond burgers are not really healthy at all.

Interesting. Will pass on to the wife, thanks.

I still prefer regular ol’ cow burgers, anyway.

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jaunte  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:29:27am

re: #241 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Rick Wiles is warning you not to eat an Impossible Burger because they are part of a satanic plot to change human DNA and “create a race of soulless creatures on this planet.”

Too late! Trump supporters are already loose.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:34:48am
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plansbandc  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:35:11am

re: #235 wrenchwench

Nomad is a great follow.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:35:36am

Once again Lindsey Graham has proved to be a dishonest jerk with no ethics, criticizing Trump’s comments then segueing into an attack on the Steele dossier:

Link

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:36:48am

re: #273 DangerMan

and here’s something we all sort of take for granted

she will easily talk to lots of reporters most any time

no fear, no set up, no rules

The hard part is getting reporters to go to her and then report what she says.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:36:51am
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Belafon  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:37:47am

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

Later today, he will suddenly discover that it’s perfectly legal.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:38:41am

re: #257 makeitstop

Quorn is delicious. Cooks up like chicken and is easy to cook. I don’t think I can ever be vegetarian or vegan but I mostly eat veggie burgers or veggie meat at home. There are so many choices in the local supermarket and it’s reasonably priced.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:40:10am

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

Official White House DARVOs.

Amazing.

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plansbandc  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:41:40am

re: #257 makeitstop

Beyond Burgers are very good. Texture and taste are on point, and they are juicy. Was a veg head for many years, so I’ve tried a lot of veggie burgers. Can’t deal with dry burgers.

Freddie Burgers black bean burger is the best fast food alternate burger, IMO.

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:43:11am

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

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GFY, Lindsey. Talk’s cheap.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:45:18am

re: #283 Patricia Kayden

Quorn is delicious. Cooks up like chicken and is easy to cook. I don’t think I can ever be vegetarian or vegan but I mostly eat veggie burgers or veggie meat at home. There are so many choices in the local supermarket and it’s reasonably priced.

That is pretty much my approach. Outside of barbecue season I do not eat much meat at all.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:45:19am

re: #265 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Wow. Scary information although the author seems a little biased against vegetarianism. I’d love to see Beyond Meat respond to this article.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:45:56am
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MsJ  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:47:06am

re: #265 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I read an article not that long ago saying that those beyond burgers are not really healthy at all.

YIKES! That was some article.

No thank you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:49:20am

these people…

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:49:56am

re: #289 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

People have been making that promise for a long time. Biden really isn’t doing anything new. It’s always been a thing to try to cure. But I’d rather decide to throw money at curing as many types of cancer as we can rather than throwing it at how many rich people we can make richer.

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:51:06am

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

these people…

I do not know why people refuse to get this: People acting in an official government capacity don’t have full rights because their job is to protect those of the public.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:52:43am

re: #290 MsJ

Here is another one which isn’t as hard on Beyond Meat or the Impossible Burger but recommends that you eat burgers (meat or non-meat) in moderation.

mensjournal.com

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:53:12am

re: #292 Belafon

I posted that tweet as a follow up to my posts I did after Biden made that remark.

To summarize (me): The problem in the US today in regards to how we tackle cancer is not that we lack research, but that we ration health care by price.

I’m hoping that at least a few of the Democratic candidates will be able to articulate that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:53:13am

Five Old White Guys

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Decatur Deb  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:53:40am

Looked at my canines in the mirror, decided my job was to eat everything slower and stupider than I am. Includes Republicans. Lots of Republicans.

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:55:23am

re: #293 Belafon

I do not know why people refuse to get this: People acting in an official government capacity don’t have full rights because their job is to protect those of the public.

Not no more.

Unless you are a Democrat.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:55:24am

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

Can House Dems subpoena her lying behind? They should now that the Office of Special Counsel has made this recommendation. The White House shouldn’t be allowed to ignore this recommendation just like that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:56:34am

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

Five men outlaw abortion in a Texas town, declaring a “sanctuary city for the unborn” https://

…and what are they going to do when they get overrun with pregnant Mexican immigrants?

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2019 • 9:58:18am

re: #290 MsJ

YIKES! That was some article.

No thank you.

My wife read it and pointed out that that guy Dr. Mercola who is cited as a source is pretty heavily into some bad woo. Should be taken into consideration.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:05:02am
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MsJ  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:05:06am
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MsJ  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:06:51am

re: #301 makeitstop

My wife read it and pointed out that that guy Dr. Mercola who is cited as a source is pretty heavily into some bad woo. Should be taken into consideration.

For me, it is completely off my diet no matter, as would all vegan burger type stuff, as it is always soy based which is high in carbs.

I will stick with what I am doing; meat, meat and more meat (and fish, chicken, lamb, etc., along with lots of veggies. And cheese. I love cheese. It’s working for me.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:08:58am

Have a nightmare, on me.

Billie Eilish - bury a friend

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Chrysicat  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:09:22am
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:11:02am

re: #290 MsJ

I have nothing wrong with those who go vegan, I personally won’t, but everyone lauding beyond burgers should read that. It’s fitting that Carl’s Junior and Del Taco (fast food joints) are serving this now given what the article says.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:11:42am

Could this Kellyanne Conway dustup also be included as part of an impeachment inquiry?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:13:10am

re: #308 Eclectic Cyborg

Could this Kellyanne Conway dustup also be included as part of an impeachment inquiry?

If she goes on to say she was acting under orders like a good little Obersturmbannführerin

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DangerMan  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:16:19am

re: #293 Belafon

I do not know why people refuse to get this: People acting in an official government capacity don’t have full rights because their job is to protect those of the public.

CAuse they’re amateurs

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:16:49am

re: #307 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I have nothing wrong with those who go vegan, I personally won’t, but everyone lauding beyond burgers should read that. It’s fitting that Carl’s Junior and Del Taco (fast food joints) are serving this now given what the article says.

I just do not like meat burgers unless they come off a barbecue grill and prefer the veggie option if I am going to do them in a pan

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DangerMan  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:19:11am

re: #299 Patricia Kayden

Can House Dems subpoena her lying behind? They should now that the Office of Special Counsel has made this recommendation. The White House shouldn’t be allowed to ignore this recommendation just like that.

Here’s where we are:

“It’s just a recommendation”

Think:. Security clearance s

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:19:30am

Maybe kellyanne wants to get fired.

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sagehen  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:24:40am

re: #194 lizardofid

I would love to see Hadestown. I was looking at ticket prices a few weeks back, and there were some reasonable seats available. But, I guess after the Tony’s they may be getting tougher.

Oh, good morning!

I spent more than a year on various waiting lists (to no avail) trying to get my “Hamilton” tickets… I finally ended up buying a pair from a PBS fundraiser. I paid way more than face value, but they were excellent seats, supported a cause I believe in, and the beyond-face-value portion of the price was tax-deductible and also gave me a year’s beyond-the-paywall access to older PBS programming that had fallen off the free website.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:25:15am

re: #236 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I think one of our pipsqueak “allies” in the Gulf is behind this. Divers attaching limpet mines in port is gangster stuff, ridiculously unconvincing as well as risky. There is no reason at all the Iranians would do it even if they did want to attack. We have actual Russian torpedoes and sea mines like the ones the Iranians use. We could do a lot better if we wanted to fake an Iranian attack.

Next attack on a tanker will be using a bone saw, if you know what I mean.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:26:54am

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Five Old White Guys

And their town probably doesn’t even have a dentist let alone an abortion clinic.

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danarchy  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:27:06am

re: #307 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I have nothing wrong with those who go vegan, I personally won’t, but everyone lauding beyond burgers should read that. It’s fitting that Carl’s Junior and Del Taco (fast food joints) are serving this now given what the article says.

Dr . Mercola is a quack of the highest order. I wouldn’t trust an article he wrote any more than I trust Trump’s daily droppings.

Dr. Mercola

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:29:28am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:31:10am

re: #318 The Vicious Babushka

Friendly reminder that after an antisemite massacred Jews in a synagogue in Pittsburgh on Shabbat, Kellyanne Conway blamed it on “anti-religiosity”.

And ex-Pope Benedict XVI blamed cases of child abuse in the Church on the Sexual Revolution of the 1960’s…

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Mattand  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:33:51am

Apropos to the Joe Manchin discussion from the other day:

Manchin eyes Senate exit

Apparently the good Senator is disappointed with the lack of bipartisanship in his chamber.

Yeah, Joe, that’s the problem: both sides are equally to blame. Also, go fuck yourself, you fucking wannabe Republican.

If you read between the lines in the article, it sounds like he really misses the ego trip and attention you get from being a governor.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:34:03am

re: #317 danarchy

Dr . Mercola is a quack of the highest order. I wouldn’t trust an article he wrote any more than I trust Trump’s daily droppings.

Dr. Mercola

This is a very good assessment. Many of the points in that article are either blatantly incorrect/lies or are orthogonal to the truth. The blather about rape seed oil (canola) is so far from reality that you’d need the Hubble to attempt to see the truth.

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:39:31am

re: #320 Mattand

He probably thought he’d be more important in the Senate being a conservative Democrat. But that would require McConnell acting like a proper Senate majority leader.

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:40:42am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:41:22am

re: #320 Mattand

Apropos to the Joe Manchin discussion from the other day:

Manchin eyes Senate exit

Apparently the good Senator is disappointed with the lack of bipartisanship in his chamber.

Yeah, Joe, that’s the problem: both sides are equally to blame. Also, go fuck yourself, you fucking wannabe Republican.

If you read between the lines in the article, it sounds like he really misses the ego trip and attention you get from being a governor.

Yawn Joe. You’re better than the alternative which is the only thing you’ve got going for ya.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:41:56am

re: #242 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am assuming this has more to do with the beef lobby than with Russia

I don’t think those are two entirely different things, at least not out on the whack-doodle end of things, which is certainly Wiles’s territory. Remember Bundy/Malheur?

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:42:15am

re: #307 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Hubby and I just bought some Beyond Burger crumbles. It’s pretty good but that article ensures that I won’t be buying it often.

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Mattand  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:43:01am

re: #322 Belafon

He probably thought he’d be more important in the Senate being a conservative Democrat. But that would require McConnell acting like a proper Senate majority leader.

That’s a brilliant take on the situation. McConnell probably figured he could sit back without lifting a finger and let Manchin eff up everything for the Democrats. Basically having a mole without actually having to invest any time in actually training/flipping him.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:44:05am

re: #323 MsJ

People who abuse animals are the worst. They bring us so much joy and they’re only here for a few short years. It doesn’t take much to please them. Why mistreat them? Just don’t get one if you can’t properly take care of him or her.

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:45:16am

re: #305 Shropshire Slasher

Have a nightmare, on me.

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Video

She’s a very interesting artist, she reminds me of Imogen Heap. I’ve been hearing this one on the radio, I quite like it.

Billie Eilish - when I was older (lyrics)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:46:16am

I get that Manchin has a tight rope as a Democrat in a ultra Republican state but with few exceptions he bends over backwards to back the GOP’s position. That’s not bipartisanship. That’s running scared.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:46:23am

would you expect a ten year old to understand that campaign finance laws forbid an american political campaign from accepting a “thing of value” from a foreign source?

trump isn’t declaring he’d break the law. it’s merely that nobody has managed to figure out how to represent the issue in a manner comprehensible to somebody with a third grade reading level

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lizardofid  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:46:42am

re: #316 Eventual Carrion

And their town probably doesn’t even have a dentist let alone an abortion clinic.

Population’s a shade over 2000. Does look like the Methadone Clinic of East Texas is located there.

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plansbandc  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:48:16am

re: #323 MsJ

What a sweet baby!

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Charles Johnson  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:49:11am
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lizardofid  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:50:48am

re: #334 Charles Johnson

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Trump should really ask the Prince for the name of his tailor.

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:53:58am

re: #328 Patricia Kayden

People who abuse animals are the worst. They bring us so much joy and they’re only here for a few short years. It doesn’t take much to please them. Why mistreat them? Just don’t get one if you can’t properly take care of him or her.

Sam’s history is really sad. He was owned by a very old guy. There were five dogs there, mostly beagles. They thought he was a puppy at first, but my vet said he was several years old (they thought really old due to his teeth which always suck). The dogs lived in a small trailer while the guy lived in his truck. The kids came up from Texas to take dad down there with him.

Sam weighed 11 pounds when I got him. As an adult. He now weighs 27 pounds and he is not overweight. I assume he had to fight for his food every single day. He was very food aggressive when I got him. Now, he stands back for treats and is really good at taking them gently (where I used to have to count fingers after giving him a treat).

He is a super special dog. He is the most empathetic animal I have ever known. If any of the other dogs are unhappy, he will not let us rest until we figure out what the issue is. He jumps on us and stares at us…then the dog with the problem…then us again, over and over until we FIX IT!

Oh, and he HATES strangers and feet. He will go after strangers who try to come into his domain. And he runs away if one of our feet happens to touch him.

Saddest damn thing.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:55:25am

re: #334 Charles Johnson

Prince of Whales

“prince of wails”, fletcher henderson orchestra featuring louis armstrong, 1924

Prince of Wails (New York Nov 1924)

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:56:18am

re: #330 HappyWarrior

I get that Manchin has a tight rope as a Democrat in a ultra Republican state but with few exceptions he bends over backwards to back the GOP’s position. That’s not bipartisanship. That’s running scared.

Manchin has already torn up my very last nerve. I don’t see how he’s helpful to Democrats when he has no problem doing stuff like voting for Kavanaugh and introducing jerks like Jeff Sessions at his confirmation hearing. He probably will endorse Trump in 2020.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:58:18am

re: #332 lizardofid

Population’s a shade over 2000. Does look like the Methadone Clinic of East Texas is located there.

Guess I’m not really surprised at that piece of info. I’d prob have to be on something to live there also.

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:58:28am

re: #336 MsJ

Some friends of mine have two German Shepherds. Big dogs, too. They were abused so bad by their previous owners that you can’t go near them. Occasionally, one of them will come to you and you can pet her. The other one touched my leg with her nose after we had been there for a few hours, but ran away before I could respond. Our friends say they rarely ever get to pet her - she needs a combing but they don’t even bother - and that she occasionally has seizures, which to me sound PTSD related.

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DangerMan  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:59:02am

re: #323 MsJ

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11 years on and still let my (ok mrs dm’s) cats smell my hand before i pet them

not that they would care

i like to think im considering the cat’s eyed view

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Mattand  Jun 13, 2019 • 10:59:58am

re: #332 lizardofid

Population’s a shade over 2000. Does look like the Methadone Clinic of East Texas is located there.

Christ, there’s probably 2000 people in my subdivision/neighborhood.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Jun 13, 2019 • 11:00:46am

re: #338 Patricia Kayden

Manchin has already torn up my very last nerve. I don’t see how he’s helpful to Democrats when he has no problem doing stuff like voting for Kavanaugh and introducing jerks like Jeff Sessions at his confirmation hearing. He probably will endorse Trump in 2020.

He has exactly one job to do: in 2020, he has to vote for Democratic leadership in the Senate. If he does that (and then does it again in 2022), I can live with him. If he doesn’t, he may as well officially change parties.

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DangerMan  Jun 13, 2019 • 11:01:13am

re: #331 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

would you expect a ten year old to understand that campaign finance laws forbid an american political campaign from accepting a “thing of value” from a foreign source?

trump isn’t declaring he’d break the law. it’s merely that nobody has managed to figure out how to represent the issue in a manner comprehensible to somebody with a third grade reading level

…that someone needs to explain this at all to the sitting president

some constitutional scholar

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Mattand  Jun 13, 2019 • 11:05:49am

re: #342 Mattand

Christ, there’s probably 2000 people in my subdivision/neighborhood.

Waskson is 1 sq mi larger than my neighborhood (2.7 vs 1.7) and we have twice the population.

We do have a functioning women’s clinic, and for the most part, our town council isn’t made of up Handmaid’s Tale cosplayers.

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marcusgorillius  Jun 13, 2019 • 11:09:34am

How did everything get SO FUCKED UP!!!!

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Mattand  Jun 13, 2019 • 11:10:25am

re: #346 marcusgorillius

How did everything get SO FUCKED UP!!!!

You got a few days?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2019 • 11:15:50am

re: #328 Patricia Kayden

People who abuse animals are the worst. They bring us so much joy and they’re only here for a few short years. It doesn’t take much to please them. Why mistreat them? Just don’t get one if you can’t properly take care of him or her.

The first thing we do is, kill all the people who abuse animals.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 13, 2019 • 11:17:38am

re: #303 MsJ

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Demographics, 2010 Mostly white, mostly poor.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 13, 2019 • 11:18:02am

re: #265 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Mercola is listef in that article - he’s as bad as The Health Ranger.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 13, 2019 • 12:32:48pm

re: #341 DangerMan

11 years on and still let my (ok mrs dm’s) cats smell my hand before i pet them

not that they would care

i like to think im considering the cat’s eyed view

I tell visitors to my place that the primary rule with the cats is let them sniff the hand first before attempting to touch them. The most social one (Chat Noir) will sniff and then chin rub the hand to indicate that pets and skritches are approved. Tuxedo Cat will sniff and then pretty much avoid or leave contact. Third Cat (Fat Cat) is the one the warning is really about since her reaction to an attempted touch without a sniff check is to wack the offender with the claws out.

No petting until I have had my morning coffee.

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