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Dread Pirate  Jun 16, 2019 • 8:38:27pm
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SteelPH  Jun 16, 2019 • 8:40:33pm

re: #1 Dread Pirate

Vomit.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 16, 2019 • 8:42:09pm

PSA get your flu shot as soon as they come out this year!

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 16, 2019 • 8:46:50pm

re: #1 Dread Pirate

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Dread Pirate  Jun 16, 2019 • 8:51:02pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

I’ve been getting the flu shot every year since 1988. You’d be a fool not to.

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Belafon  Jun 16, 2019 • 9:01:02pm

From the previous thread:

re: #185 KGxvi

Both she and Breyer were appointed in Clinton’s first term. As were roughly half of his appellate and district court judges.

Had Dole won in ‘96, it’s worth remembering that he was a bit of a squish on a lot of social issues. I suspect that GHW Bush won in ‘92 or Dole in ‘96, we’d have seen more Supreme Court picks like Kennedy, Souter, and O’Connor than Scalia and Thomas.

O’Connor ruled, among other things, that gerrymandering was OK.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 16, 2019 • 9:05:19pm
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Belafon  Jun 16, 2019 • 9:06:52pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

Tim Deegan in the replies looks like the perfect person to block.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 16, 2019 • 9:09:19pm
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SteelPH  Jun 16, 2019 • 9:09:58pm

re: #9 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Reset the clock… *facepalm*

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 16, 2019 • 9:13:14pm

I’m just a bit skeptical of this but it’s worth a shot: I will sacrifice some Famous Grouse and ice to the gods to end the Trump plague as soon as they find convenient.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 16, 2019 • 9:14:53pm

re: #10 SteelPH

Reset the clock… *facepalm*

As the bird flies, this is about a mile from my front door

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 16, 2019 • 9:23:28pm

re: #7 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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File that in the “I’m not surprised at all” category…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 16, 2019 • 9:24:17pm

re: #11 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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I’m just a bit skeptical of this but it’s worth a shot: I will sacrifice some Famous Grouse and ice to the gods to end the Trump plague as soon as they find convenient.

Well, I took a look outside and the clouds block any view…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 16, 2019 • 9:27:24pm

He shouldn’t hold his breath

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sagehen  Jun 16, 2019 • 9:29:43pm

re: #1 Dread Pirate

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Gross.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 16, 2019 • 9:37:49pm

re: #15 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

He shouldn’t hold his breath

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I love ‘feel good’ stories.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 16, 2019 • 9:43:31pm

re: #11 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 16, 2019 • 9:48:26pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 16, 2019 • 9:51:59pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jun 16, 2019 • 10:14:15pm
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Belafon  Jun 16, 2019 • 10:28:59pm

I’m not much on period movies or romance movies, but I love watching Kiera Knightley’s Pride & Prejudice (I’m a bit biased because the book is one of my three favorite books).

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Belafon  Jun 16, 2019 • 10:36:09pm
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Belafon  Jun 16, 2019 • 10:36:58pm
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Dread Pirate  Jun 16, 2019 • 10:40:52pm

WOW, the most milk-toast newspaper on record.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jun 16, 2019 • 10:45:45pm

re: #25 Dread Pirate

WOW, the most milk-toast newspaper on record.

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This was their endorsement of DT over Hillary Clinton, and it’s all still true.

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teleskiguy  Jun 16, 2019 • 10:47:05pm
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Belafon  Jun 16, 2019 • 10:47:20pm

re: #25 Dread Pirate

WOW, the most milk-toast newspaper on record.

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They’ve never openly taken sides. A lot of their coverage has had a conservative feel. So this is even more interesting.

And it’s a few years old.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 16, 2019 • 10:49:26pm

re: #27 teleskiguy

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Police entrapment.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 16, 2019 • 10:49:35pm

re: #18 Dread Pirate

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It’s the Magickal potential of which I am skeptical, not the alignment itself.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 16, 2019 • 10:51:57pm

re: #30 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

It’s the Magickal potential of which I am skeptical, not the alignment itself.

It’s not that well aligned and it’s backward from his graphic.

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teleskiguy  Jun 16, 2019 • 11:17:29pm

My father and me…

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Dread Pirate  Jun 16, 2019 • 11:26:52pm
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Dread Pirate  Jun 16, 2019 • 11:31:54pm
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Dread Pirate  Jun 17, 2019 • 12:14:42am
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Ace-o-aces  Jun 17, 2019 • 1:14:56am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 17, 2019 • 1:40:44am
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Dread Pirate  Jun 17, 2019 • 1:46:13am

re: #37 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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LOL, I know that look from a dog, mine gives it to me almost daily.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2019 • 2:45:54am

re: #15 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

He shouldn’t hold his breath

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Does anyone even know where the hell Anglin is? Last I’d heard, rumor was that he either in the Philippines or Eastern Europe - or possibly in Russia.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2019 • 3:05:59am

re: #39 Dr Lizardo

Does anyone even know where the hell Anglin is? Last I’d heard, rumor was that he either in the Philippines or Eastern Europe - or possibly in Russia.

Not that the money does not matter, but I think that a ruling like this really gets a message across that these bastards cannot slime people and expect to get away with it.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2019 • 3:07:58am

re: #40 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not that the money does not matter, but I think that a ruling like this really gets a message across that these bastards cannot slime people and expect to get away with it.

Good point. Unless Anglin is living completely off the grid, I’d think some diligent investigators could track him and his money down.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 17, 2019 • 3:40:48am

re: #22 Belafon

I prefer the series starring Colin Firth. It’s a great movie.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 17, 2019 • 4:09:28am

re: #15 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Good on him for taking them on. If this decision is upheld, he can bankrupt a major White Supremacist organization. I’m cool with that.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 17, 2019 • 4:37:10am

re: #35 Dread Pirate

Who? Why do these obscure people believe that they could win? Looking forward to the whittling down of candidates to the ones who can actually beat Trump.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 17, 2019 • 4:39:30am
Grief-stricken kin of the Harlem mom who died along with five of her children when fire tore through their death-trap public-housing apartment last month plan to sue the city — for $2.2 billion. “It’s hard to put a dollar value on the loss of human life, but the $2.2 billion, we feel, is appropriate in light of the current situation,” said lawyer Evan Oshan, who is representing two surviving daughters of late matriarch Andrea Pollidore.
The eye-popping sum is not arbitrary, the lawyer said — it is the same amount that Mayor de Blasio committed to his embattled New York City Housing Authority in January to settle a federal probe into horrendous living conditions in buildings such as Pollidore’s.

nypost.com

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jeffreyw  Jun 17, 2019 • 5:10:49am

What will the morrow bring, Gabe?
I don’t know, Homer. I don’t know.

Good morning!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2019 • 5:33:41am

What a way to start the week. ROTFLMAO at this!

But according to an article in the Israeli daily Ha’aretz and multiple reports in the Israeli press, it’s more Potemkin village than Trump Heights. No actual town or village has actually been founded at all. It appears to be little more than a PR stunt to curry favor with the President who continues to openly support Netanyahu as the country moves toward new elections in September. No money has been budgeted for the new town. Nor is there specific location. Indeed, there’s no commitment to build a town at all. The decision will be left to the government that takes power after the next election. In the words of Israeli journalist Barak Ravid: “A settlement by the name of “Trump Heights” or “Ramat Trump” doesn’t exist. It my exist in the future but the Israeli cabinet still hasn’t even decided to do it. For now there’s only a sign.”

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2019 • 5:54:22am

re: #47 Joe Bacon 🌹

What a way to start the week. ROTFLMAO at this!

But according to an article in the Israeli daily Ha’aretz and multiple reports in the Israeli press, it’s more Potemkin village than Trump Heights. No actual town or village has actually been founded at all. .. “A settlement by the name of “Trump Heights” or “Ramat Trump” doesn’t exist.”

talkingpointsmemo.com

It’s right there next to the Secret Agreement with Mexico!!!

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 17, 2019 • 6:03:18am

re: #46 jeffreyw

What will the morrow bring, Gabe?
I don’t know, Homer. I don’t know.

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Good morning!

Or are you just covering for their continued daily efforts to take over the world?

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2019 • 6:14:40am
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jeffreyw  Jun 17, 2019 • 6:14:54am

re: #49 Feline Fearless Leader

Or are you just covering for their continued daily efforts to take over the world?

Well, it’s tough to make predictions, especially about the future.

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2019 • 6:15:57am
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Belafon  Jun 17, 2019 • 6:18:07am

Anne at Balloon Juice has collected a bunch of tweets you have to go read: balloon-juice.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 17, 2019 • 6:20:53am

re: #44 Patricia Kayden

Who? Why do these obscure people believe that they could win? Looking forward to the whittling down of candidates to the ones who can actually beat Trump.

They are obscure until they are no longer obscure. Who could have been more obscure than Mayor Pete? Do you think many people knew Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton or Bernie Sanders before their Presidential runs? Most of them won’t make it past the first debate or so — but there’s no telling who will take hold of the public imagination and emerge as a breakout candidate.

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2019 • 6:26:03am

Another upside to the poll that shows most of the Democrats easily beating Trump is maybe we can focus less on who can defeat Trump and more on who will be the best president.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 17, 2019 • 6:29:37am

re: #54 Hecuba’s daughter

I think Mayor Pete will win the nomination.

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Scout  Jun 17, 2019 • 6:31:57am

Good morning everyone from semi-rural Snohomish County, Washington state.

This is the lead story in this morning’s Seattle Times.

‘I was just doing my job’: Seattle’s Chinese American veterans to receive long overdue honor from U.S.

I was crying my eyes out by the end of the story.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2019 • 6:39:42am

So how long before Mulvaney gets the YOU’RE FIRED!!!11!!! from President Germaphobic.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2019 • 6:45:58am
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Jay C  Jun 17, 2019 • 6:47:03am

re: #47 Joe Bacon 🌹

What a way to start the week. ROTFLMAO at this!

But according to an article in the Israeli daily Ha’aretz and multiple reports in the Israeli press, it’s more Potemkin village than Trump Heights. No actual town or village has actually been founded at all. It appears to be little more than a PR stunt to curry favor with the President who continues to openly support Netanyahu as the country moves toward new elections in September. No money has been budgeted for the new town. Nor is there specific location. Indeed, there’s no commitment to build a town at all. The decision will be left to the government that takes power after the next election. In the words of Israeli journalist Barak Ravid: “A settlement by the name of “Trump Heights” or “Ramat Trump” doesn’t exist. It my exist in the future but the Israeli cabinet still hasn’t even decided to do it. For now there’s only a sign.”

talkingpointsmemo.com

It’s like a throwback to the old Israeli tradition of flattering donors/potential donors/foreign bigwigs by naming stuff/places after them, and making a big deal of unveiling the dedicatory signs. Of course, the stuff/places stay the same: only the signs change as “necessary”….

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 17, 2019 • 6:48:25am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 17, 2019 • 6:50:22am

re: #55 Belafon

Another upside to the poll that shows most of the Democrats easily beating Trump is maybe we can focus less on who can defeat Trump and more on who will be the best president.

If Warren is still in the running when I get to vote, she’s got mine.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 17, 2019 • 6:52:18am

re: #58 The Vicious Babushka

So how long before Mulvaney gets the YOU’RE FIRED!!!11!!! from President Germaphobic.

Not likely — after all Mulvaney holds 2 positions; Trump had enough trouble getting someone to hold WH Chief of Staff as it is. OTOH, Trump thinks he can do it all so maybe he figures he doesn’t really need these offices filled.

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sagehen  Jun 17, 2019 • 6:57:19am

re: #53 Belafon

Anne at Balloon Juice has collected a bunch of tweets you have to go read: balloon-juice.com

OMG YES!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2019 • 6:59:51am

Welp

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 17, 2019 • 7:01:49am

re: #58 The Vicious Babushka

So how long before Mulvaney gets the YOU’RE FIRED!!!11!!! from President Germaphobic.

What did Mulvaney do? He’s a disaster, but any replacement would be as bad or worserest.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 17, 2019 • 7:04:10am

re: #66 Colère Tueur de Lapin

What did Mulvaney do? He’s a disaster, but any replacement would be as bad or worserest.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 17, 2019 • 7:10:24am

re: #67 Teddy’s Person

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Oh.

And reading the twitter thread I see the ronnie jackson (physician who lied about the orange shit-goblin’s health and nominated for Sec. of the VA) is even dumber than I previously imaged. The mooch has a cold so jackson gave him a cortisone and antibiotic injection. Grrrrrr. That pisses me off; unnecessary antibiotic use is one of the portents of the apocalypse.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 17, 2019 • 7:10:38am

So the upcoming merger between SunTrust and BB&T have spent goawdknows how much money for a new brad name….

Truist

And to think how many millions have been spent on this, let alone for a graphic.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2019 • 7:25:47am

OK this will get your morning started off in a good mood

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 17, 2019 • 7:33:36am

Some good news out of SCOTUS; at least I think it’s good.

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2019 • 7:39:12am

re: #52 Belafon

Poll: Trump impeachment support increases by 10 points

Was that before or after last night’s interview?

I was reading Latest Tweets on Twitter and to say they were less than kind was an understatement. I would say 1 out of 50 was pro trump. It was apparently a very bad interview for him.

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2019 • 7:41:01am

re: #55 Belafon

Another upside to the poll that shows most of the Democrats easily beating Trump is maybe we can focus less on who can defeat Trump and more on who will be the best president.

Stop it with all your logic and reason. Really.

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2019 • 7:44:27am

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

OK this will get your morning started off in a good mood

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I. Am. Dying. That was so funny! Thank you!!

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2019 • 7:45:12am
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lawhawk  Jun 17, 2019 • 7:47:46am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Took a well deserved vacation and got to clear my headspace (though I’ve been on twitter the entire time, so it’s not like I took a total break from news and the Trumpworld clown show).

In any event, the Supreme Court handed down a couple of decisions this morning.

Chris Geidner and Scotusblog both have the particulars, but there’s a couple of interesting things to point out. The VA gerrymandering case was dismissed due to lack of standing by one chamber of the legislature. It means that the GOP efforts to gerrymander in VA took a big hit. That’s good news.

There’s also a gay discrimination case that was remanded back to the lower court in light of Masterpiece Bakers (which itself was a punt). It’s as though the Court doesn’t want to touch LGBT rights and wants the states to sort things out first.

There was also a 1A case involving a public access station in NYC. Turns out that the right wing majority decided the case in claiming that the public access station isn’t a public actor, inventing its own reality. Sotomayor took the majority to task for ruling on a case and facts that aren’t actually before the case. She actually said as much - and we’re going to see a lot more of this from the right wingers on the bench, when they ignore the facts, reality, to put their own stamp on jurisprudence in a wide range of issues.

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2019 • 7:47:55am

re: #71 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Some good news out of SCOTUS; at least I think it’s good.

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Now I get it! I had to read the story. I thought the opposite would apply. I was wrong.

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court declined on Monday to change the longstanding rule that says putting someone on trial more than once for the same crime does not violate the Constitution’s protection against double jeopardy — a case that drew attention because of its possible implications for President Donald Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort.

The 7-2 ruling was a defeat for an Alabama man, Terance Gamble, convicted of robbery in 2008 and pulled over seven years later for a traffic violation. When police found a handgun in his car, he was prosecuted under Alabama’s law barring felons from possessing firearms. The local U.S. attorney then charged Gamble with violating a similar federal law. Because of the added federal conviction, his prison sentence was extended by nearly three years.

The Fifth Amendment says no person shall be “twice put in jeopardy of life or limb” for the same offense. But for more than 160 years, the Supreme Court has ruled that being prosecuted once by a state and again in federal court, or the other way around, for the same crime doesn’t violate the protection against double jeopardy because the states and the federal government are “separate sovereigns.”

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lawhawk  Jun 17, 2019 • 7:48:33am

re: #77 MsJ

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lawhawk  Jun 17, 2019 • 7:51:53am

re: #71 Colère Tueur de Lapin

It is good news.

It’s bad news for Manafort and Trump (and the rest of Trumpworld.

It means that Manafort (and Trumpworld) could face federal charges, and then see analog charges from one or more states.

So, Manafort could face state versions of the federal crimes he was convicted of, and does not have a double jeopardy claim. It also means states could go after Trumpworld figures and that they couldn’t claim double jeopardy if they’re charged/indicted, convicted, and sentenced on federal charges that are substantially the same as the state charges.

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2019 • 7:52:05am
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MsJ  Jun 17, 2019 • 7:52:39am

re: #79 lawhawk

It is good news.

It’s bad news for Manafort and Trump (and the rest of Trumpworld.

It means that Manafort (and Trumpworld) could face federal charges, and then see analog charges from one or more states.

So, Manafort could face state versions of the federal crimes he was convicted of, and does not have a double jeopardy claim. It also means states could go after Trumpworld figures and that they couldn’t claim double jeopardy if they’re charged/indicted, convicted, and sentenced on federal charges that are substantially the same as the state charges.

Tell me this applies to Flynn, who by all accounts, is bucking hard for a pardon.

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2019 • 7:53:08am

re: #77 MsJ

Now I get it! I had to read the story. I thought the opposite would apply. I was wrong.

Yep, can you imagine how many court cases Barr would have had filed so that Trump could pardon people, including himself?

I understand the ACLU’s concerns, but we already have checks in place for determining if a case is state or federal, and, in most cases, one or the other will have jurisdiction.

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lawhawk  Jun 17, 2019 • 7:54:47am

Shooting outside a Dallas federal building… because of course there was. Guy with tactical gear/weapon.

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Scout  Jun 17, 2019 • 7:55:44am

re: #62 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If Warren is still in the running when I get to vote, she’s got mine.

Same here.

The Seattle Times reprinted this Krugman column. I liked their headline better: Elizabeth Warren walks the talk.
Liberal Wonks, or at Least Elizabeth Warren, Have a Plan for That

I know I don’t need to add, but I will anyway, that regardless of whoever gets the nomination, he or she will have my vote and campaign contributions.

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2019 • 7:57:51am

re: #84 Scout

Similarly:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2019 • 7:59:36am

re: #85 Belafon

Both Elizabeth Warren and Pete Buttigieg “have made braininess central to their political brand,”

It is a good way to distinguish oneself from a party that has made brainlessness its political brand…

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sagehen  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:00:07am

re: #81 MsJ

Tell me this applies to Flynn, who by all accounts, is bucking hard for a pardon.

I don’t think any of Flynn’s crimes are State matters. Sorry.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:00:33am

re: #77 MsJ

Now I get it! I had to read the story. I thought the opposite would apply. I was wrong.

Yeah, I should have added a tad more context. I’ve been peripherally ‘following’ this case because I was concerned the rightwhingers on SCOTUS would have made it possible for the orange shit-goblin’s pardon powers to become overwhelming.

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:01:26am

re: #83 lawhawk

Shooting outside a Dallas federal building… because of course there was. Guy with tactical gear/weapon.

Looks like a white dude if you go to the Dallas Morning News link.

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lawhawk  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:01:36am

re: #81 MsJ

It would apply to any person who is charged by federal and state prosecutors.

If Flynn isn’t charged at the state level, then there’s no applicability here.

So far, it would appear that this applies to Manafort. Cohen and Trump could see this apply to them as well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:03:57am

re: #89 Belafon

Looks like a white dude if you go to the Dallas Morning News link.

As soon as I read that he was wearing “tactical gear” it was a pretty good guess.

How many blacks or Latinos do you see running around in that stuff?

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:04:01am

re: #90 lawhawk

It would apply to any person who is charged by federal and state prosecutors.

If Flynn isn’t charged at the state level, then there’s no applicability here.

So far, it would appear that this applies to Manafort. Cohen and Trump could see this apply to them as well.

This also kind of allows the states to be a legal check on the federal government. Most crimes happen in a state, though DC gets a little weird.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:05:14am
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Belafon  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:05:16am

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As soon as I read that he was wearing “tactical gear” it was a pretty good guess.

How many blacks or Latinos do you see running around in that stuff?

Sadly, that shooting in Dallas three years ago where the black guy was shooting at cops at the rally being held to show minorities and police could come together.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:05:35am

re: #25 Dread Pirate

WOW, the most milk-toast newspaper on record.

“In the 34-year history of USA TODAY, the Editorial Board has never taken sides in the presidential race…Until now.”#LoserTrump #TrumpUnfithttps://t.co

— KrisS 🔥 Your Vote, Your Voice 🔥 (@MplsMe) June 16, 2019

On a side note, as a young teenager I spent one winter going door-to-door selling $5 trial subscriptions to USA Today. It was as awful and as it sounds.

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danarchy  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:06:58am

re: #81 MsJ

Tell me this applies to Flynn, who by all accounts, is bucking hard for a pardon.

I don’t think the current charges against Flynn have any state corollary. Lying to the FBI is pretty much strictly Federal.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:08:54am

Reliving those great days of being the first in line for Def Leppard tickets

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lawhawk  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:09:47am

re: #93 The Vicious Babushka

Biggest political scandal so far.

Trump decided to go all in on scandal and corruption, and it’s been his hallmark since the moment he took the escalator ride.

Trump’s criminality isn’t even hiding in the shadows. Trump is openly reveling in the corruption and criminality by stating unequivocally that he’d take dirt from foreign powers and not report it to the FBI.

That’s exactly what his campaign did. They sought out and got meetings with foreign agents to get dirt on Clinton. They then lied about those contacts and meetings every step of the way since (hence the obstruction of justice charges that Mueller identified as part of his report).

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:09:51am

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

Reliving those great days of being the first in line for Def Leppard tickets

Someone should ask them how much they are getting paid as actors.

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:10:59am

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

Reliving those great days of being the first in line for Def Leppard tickets

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The level of white there is blinding.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:11:47am

re: #100 MsJ

The level of white there is blinding.

“Amway Center”—how on brand.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:12:07am

re: #95 Dr. Matt

On a side note, as a young teenager I spent one winter going door-to-door selling $5 trial subscriptions to USA Today. It was as awful and as it sounds.

You get an upding for the chortle-snort, not because of your recalled misery.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:12:15am

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

Reliving those great days of being the first in line for Def Leppard tickets

Translation: Unemployed white trash are waiting to see Dear Leader.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:12:44am

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

Don’t those people have jerbs?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:13:08am

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

People are already lined up outside the Amway Center in Orlando for the Trump rally tomorrow. About 20 people here with tents, lawn chairs, coolers and umbrellas.

Oddly, nobody going up and down asking them why they don’t have day jobs…

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Dr. Matt  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:14:38am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Oddly, nobody going up and down asking them why they don’t have day jobs…

Exactly. If this was a Democratic President, Jesse ‘Douche’ Watters would be Johnny-on-the-spot trying to troll the people waiting in line.

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Jay C  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:14:41am

re: #104 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Don’t those people have jerbs?

No, because illegal aliens stole them all….

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:16:07am

Probably a high percentage are on disability.

109
Belafon  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:16:10am

re: #107 Jay C

No, because illegal aliens stole them all….

You left out “lazy, welfare using”.

110
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:17:37am

No bathroom or shower facilities. These folks are gonna smell RIPE by tomorrow night.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:17:44am

re: #108 Barefoot Grin

Probably a high percentage are on disability.

Mental or physical?

112
MsJ  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:18:04am

re: #109 Belafon

You left out “lazy, welfare using”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:18:34am

re: #112 MsJ

Hmmmmm. Notice anything interesting?

all young bucks

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:19:41am

re: #113 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

all young bucks

And I bet there are about 200 teeth between them.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:19:58am

re: #95 Dr. Matt

On a side note, as a young teenager I spent one winter going door-to-door selling $5 trial subscriptions to USA Today. It was as awful and as it sounds.

Mom and Dad made me take on 2 paper routes Pittsburgh Post Gazette in the morning and Pittsburgh Press in the afternoons and Sundays. Hated every minute of doing that for six years because people repeatedly stiffed me when I came to collect.

Kurt Vonnegut was right when he called newspaper routes a royal screwing!

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:20:10am

re: #112 MsJ

All eating steak and lobster.

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darthstar  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:20:55am
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plansbandc  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:21:48am
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Jay C  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:21:54am

re: #112 MsJ

Hmmmmm Notice anything interesting?

Lack of genetic diversity?

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:22:39am

Damn allergies.

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:24:19am

re: #117 darthstar

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:24:58am

thoughts and prayers…

123
Belafon  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:25:35am

re: #112 MsJ

The third one on the second row just exudes “How dare those n*****’s get welfare, but the government owes me.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:25:57am
125
Barefoot Grin  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:27:04am

re: #111 Dr. Matt

Mental or physical?

:)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:27:46am

re: #111 Dr. Matt

Mental or physical?

Bone spurs

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:28:16am

re: #120 MsJ

Damn allergies.

Try this one, it got me in all the feels: 13-year-old battling kidney disease finds a new home with his teacher. The video is better than the transcript.

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:29:19am

re: #127 Belafon

Try this one, it got me in all the feels: 13-year-old battling kidney disease finds a new home with his teacher. The video is better than the transcript.

Reload the previous one, or just use this one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:29:21am
130
Belafon  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:31:20am

re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

In other words, the word socialism has no meaning. “Would you like some socialism on your hotdog?” “Did you socialism today before you ate?” “Papa Socialism, I socialismed my socialism and now I can’t socialism any more!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:32:49am

re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

McConnell calls granting statehood to D.C. and Puerto Rico, “full bore socialism.”

Allowing US citizens to vote in national elections = Socialism

got it

132
MsJ  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:33:01am

re: #128 Belafon

Reload the previous one, or just use this one.

No kidding. That was amazing.

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:33:48am

re: #131 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Allowing US citizens to vote in national elections = Socialism

got it

Beyond voting. Something something taxing without representation.

134
retired cynic  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:35:14am

re: #86 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Both Elizabeth Warren and Pete Buttigieg “have made braininess central to their political brand,”

It is a good way to distinguish oneself from a party that has made brainlessness its political brand…

From Sherlock: “Braininess is the new sexy.”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:37:43am

re: #130 Belafon

In other words, the word socialism has no meaning. “Would you like some socialism on your hotdog?” “Did you socialism today before you ate?” “Papa Socialism, I socialismed my socialism and now I can’t socialism any more!”

The word now means “democracy” which Yurtle is very much opposed to.

136
MsJ  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:38:54am
137
MsJ  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:41:05am
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nowherenorth2  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:42:14am

re: #113 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The county I live in and work for

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sagehen  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:42:33am

re: #101 Barefoot Grin

“Amway Center”—how on brand.

y’know… as much as I hate everything I’ve ever heard about the way Amway did business, and the family, and everything else about them…

I really liked their products. Basic H, Basic L, Basic D (which, wow, that name didn’t age well), were good stuff.

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Jay C  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:42:51am

re: #131 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Allowing US citizens to vote in national elections = Socialism

got it

Naaah, probably more like the usual Republican syllogism:

Socialism is un-American
Puerto Rican’s aren’t Real Americans
Ergo: PR statehood is “socialism”
QED*

* Quite Extreme Dipshittery

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Targetpractice  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:43:48am

re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

The GOP have devolved to the point where they think the very word “socialism” is a self-contained argument.

Granting D.C. and Puerto Rico statehood? “Socialism.”

Ensuring the integrity of voting? “Socialism.”

Protecting America’s elections from foreign influence? “Socialism.”

Pavlov would be so proud.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:46:00am

re: #112 MsJ

[Embedded content]

That they’re white, or women?

Seriously, however, St Lawrence County in NYS is pretty much white, white and more white. The exception is the First Americans contingent since there is Mohawk Reservation land there as well.

I spent a number of my formative years in Massena. One black family in the entire village. And things in the area went *very* downhill in the past twenty years. The major industries (GM, Reynolds, ALCOA) in the area pretty much closed up and the region has not recovered much, if at all, from the last recession.

And you could say much the same for large stretches of upstate and northern New York. The tourism is/was way down, vacationing in the Adirondacks is not what it used to be, and a lot of the industry closed up for various reasons.

(Edit: Given nowherenorth2’s current residency in the area I expect much better observations of the area’s current status from them.)

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:46:00am

re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Full bore boogeyman.”

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:53:35am
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sagehen  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:55:36am

re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Puerto Rico has more American citizens than Wyoming, Montana and the Dakotas COMBINED. So yes, they should be a State. (the Virgin Islands is too small to be a state; their 100k people should just be lumped in with Puerto Rico for a combined State.)

DC I’m a little more conflicted about; they’d be one of the least populous states, and a pretty high percentage of the people who live there are only there for a specific administration, they have permanent addresses (and voter registration) in wherever it is they came from. Maybe the people who are really truly permanent DC residents should get to register as “adjunct voters” in Virginia or Maryland?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:58:13am

Surprise in SCOTUS as Thomas and Gorsuch join a 5-4 Ginsburg ruling denying the Virginia House standing to fight a court order to redraw racially gerrymandered districts.

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:58:54am

re: #142 Feline Fearless Leader

That they’re white, or women?

Seriously, however, St Lawrence County in NYS is pretty much white, white and more white. The exception is the First Americans contingent since there is Mohawk Reservation land there as well.

I spent a number of my formative years in Massena. One black family in the entire village. And things in the area went *very* downhill in the past twenty years. The major industries (GM, Reynolds, ALCOA) in the area pretty much closed up and the region has not recovered much, if at all, from the last recession.

And you could say much the same for large stretches of upstate and northern New York. The tourism is/was way down, vacationing in the Adirondacks is not what it used to be, and a lot of the industry closed up for various reasons.

(Edit: Given nowherenorth2’s current residency in the area I expect much better observations of the area’s current status from them.)

Pretty sure that tweet was ironic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2019 • 8:59:41am

very long but worth the time to read

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:00:51am

re: #137 MsJ

Bring on the bolides.

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:01:52am

re: #146 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Surprise in SCOTUS as Thomas and Gorsuch join a 5-4 Ginsburg ruling denying the Virginia House standing to fight a court order to redraw racially gerrymandered districts.

I was going to complain about the ruling, but thinking about it a bit more, I don’t think chambers should be allowed to sue. They aren’t a real entity with independent standing of those they represent.

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Jay C  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:09:04am

re: #145 sagehen

Puerto Rico has more American citizens than Wyoming, Montana and the Dakotas COMBINED. So yes, they should be a State. (the Virgin Islands is too small to be a state; their 100k people should just be lumped in with Puerto Rico for a combined State.

DC I’m a little more conflicted about; they’d be one of the least populous states, and a pretty high percentage of the people who live there are only there for a specific administration, they have permanent addresses (and voter registration) in wherever it is they came from. Maybe the people who are really truly permanent DC residents should get to register as “adjunct voters” in Virginia or Maryland?

There has been at least a halfway solution to the issue of DC’s lack of representation kicking around for a number if years: the House can vote (as a matter of internal rules) to grant the District’s currently non-voting Representative full voting rights. But this has Ben resisted by the GOP since about forever - probably due to the facts that most DC residents are Those People…

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lawhawk  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:11:11am

re: #144 jaunte

Auto de fe?

It’s what you oughtn’t do but you do it anyway….

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:11:38am
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dell*nix  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:13:25am

re: #50 Belafon

A slightly different one.

Lambeth Walk: Nazi Style - by Charles A. Ridley (1941)

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:13:31am

re: #152 lawhawk

For conservatives, facing consequences for ones actions is always The Spanish Inquisition.

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Targetpractice  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:13:36am

re: #146 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Surprise in SCOTUS as Thomas and Gorsuch join a 5-4 Ginsburg ruling denying the Virginia House standing to fight a court order to redraw racially gerrymandered districts.

[Embedded content]

The VA GOP are gonna raise all sorts of hell over this one. If it hadn’t been for gerrymandering, they would have lost their asses last year. They’ve engaged in all sorts of dirty shit in recent years to maintain their thin majorities and this will only lead to further screaming that “those people” in the cities are stealing power from “real Virginians.”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:14:36am

re: #114 MsJ

And I bet there are about 200 teeth between them.

Ouch, but true.

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Targetpractice  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:14:54am

re: #153 MsJ

[Embedded content]

I’m so old, I remember when these same pundits were speculating that Eric Cantor would one day be Speaker, possibly even Senator Cantor or President Cantor.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:17:01am

Former Egyptian President Mohammad Morsi, ousted in a coup in 2013, literally died in court while on trial for espionage charges.

Egypt’s former president Mohammed Morsi, who was ousted by the army in 2013, has died in court, state TV says.

He reportedly fainted after a court session where he was facing espionage charges and subsequently died. He was 67.

Morsi was overthrown following mass protests a year after he took office as the country’s first democratically elected leader.

bbc.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:22:41am

re: #159 Dr Lizardo

Heart attack or maybe something more suspicious going on?

161
MsJ  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:24:08am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:24:21am

re: #160 Eclectic Cyborg

Heart attack or maybe something more suspicious going on?

IIRC, Morsi has had a lengthy history of declining health, especially since he’s been in prison

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:25:32am

re: #160 Eclectic Cyborg

Heart attack or maybe something more suspicious going on?

He’s been in prison for several years and his health has been fading. Natural causes seems to be most logical explanation.

164
Dr. Matt  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:27:04am

re: #158 Targetpractice

I’m so old, I remember when these same pundits were speculating that Eric Cantor would one day be Speaker, possibly even Senator Cantor or President Cantor.

One of my all time-favorites: Paul Ryan is the future face of the GOP. He’s a policy wonk and budget-balancing genius.

165
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:31:09am

so pathetic

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:31:32am

moron

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:31:45am

Whoa.

edit: Read this thread.

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:32:11am

re: #167 MsJ

Whoa.

[Embedded content]

That’s a thread, btw.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:35:42am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:36:01am

re: #139 sagehen

y’know… as much as I hate everything I’ve ever heard about the way Amway did business, and the family, and everything else about them…

I really liked their products. Basic H, Basic L, Basic D (which, wow, that name didn’t age well), were good stuff.

Isn’t that Shaklee?

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Targetpractice  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:36:43am

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

so pathetic

[Embedded content]

I really can’t read tweets like this without hearing “I so totally have a huge dick!” It’s like the ammosexual who boasts about his gun collection.

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Targetpractice  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:39:19am

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Well, he obviously can’t be a terrorist, his skin’s too white.

////////

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:39:26am

Supreme court rules states can prosecute for crimes even if feds decline/no conviction in fed court.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:42:51am

re: #173 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Supreme court rules states can prosecute for crimes even if feds decline/no conviction in fed court.

[Embedded content]

So, does that mean that Trump’s probably going to be shitting bricks in about 10 minutes or so?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:43:02am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

[Embedded content]

Yeah, and they’re doing this because you pulled us out of the fucking deal, Donny!

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Targetpractice  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:45:15am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

[Embedded content]

Donny’s watching Faux again.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:45:40am

re: #145 sagehen

DC I’m a little more conflicted about; they’d be one of the least populous states, and a pretty high percentage of the people who live there are only there for a specific administration, they have permanent addresses (and voter registration) in wherever it is they came from. Maybe the people who are really truly permanent DC residents should get to register as “adjunct voters” in Virginia or Maryland?

The bolded statement is untrue and a myth that needs to be thrown forever in the trashbin of history. They majority (by a very large number) of DC residents are permanent. Additionally, giving them voting rights in MD or VA would do what, exactly, for them? They need representation in the house and senate, not another shadow that has no real power. Neither MD nor VA representation would serve them for any purpose at all.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:49:48am

re: #174 Dr Lizardo

yup. Pardons won’t mean shit.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:52:31am

re: #155 jaunte

For conservatives, facing consequences for ones actions is always The Spanish Inquisition.

Only when it’s not The Holocaust.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:53:46am

re: #134 retired cynic

From Sherlock: “Braininess is the new sexy.”

Unfortunately, as Adlai Stevenson once said, “That’s not enough. I need a majority” — at least a majority of the EC.

181
Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:54:45am

re: #178 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

yup. Pardons won’t mean shit.

Heh, bet some members and associates of the Trump Crime Family are gonna be sweating bullets real soon.

182
Hecuba's daughter  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:56:12am

re: #178 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

yup. Pardons won’t mean shit.

Only if a corresponding state crime statute can apply. I’m not sure that collaborating with an enemy power is covered under any state law. Financial shenanigans certainly are.

183
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:56:57am

re: #181 Dr Lizardo

Heh, bet some members and associates of the Trump Crime Family are gonna be sweating Milkshakes real soon.

184
lawhawk  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:57:09am

re: #178 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

yup. Pardons won’t mean shit.

I think it sets up an interesting 5A question about self incrimination and pardons.

Under Burdick, pardoned person must introduce the pardon into court proceedings, otherwise the pardon must be disregarded by the court. Since the underlying facts are the same as the state case, if a defendant testifies on his own behalf, they’d have a potential 5A conflict despite the allocution to the federal crime and accepting the pardon.

State prosecutors could still enter as evidence the pardon on the federal charges and how those facts mirror the state charges. It’d make it easier to get a conviction IMO. The pardons don’t help Trumpworld nearly as much as Trump thinks they would.

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danarchy  Jun 17, 2019 • 9:59:51am

re: #177 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The bolded statement is untrue and a myth that needs to be thrown forever in the trashbin of history. They majority (by a very large number) of DC residents are permanent. Additionally, giving them voting rights in MD or VA would do what, exactly, for them? They need representation in the house and senate, not another shadow that has no real power. Neither MD nor VA representation would serve them for any purpose at all.

As long as their population was counted towards that states congressional representation it would give them exactly as much representation as any other city.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2019 • 10:02:07am

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

so pathetic

[Embedded content]

What he wants is this:

Victory Day Russian Army Parade 2015 HD Hell march

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2019 • 10:02:42am

re: #182 Hecuba’s daughter

Only if a corresponding state crime statute can apply. I’m not sure that collaborating with an enemy power is covered under any state law. Financial shenanigans certainly are.

Well, after all, it was financial shenanigans that finally sent Al Capone to the Big House.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 17, 2019 • 10:03:21am

re: #150 Belafon

I was going to complain about the ruling, but thinking about it a bit more, I don’t think chambers should be allowed to sue. They aren’t a real entity with independent standing of those they represent.

Disagree in principle because my fear is that Gorsuch only joined this ruling to tee up a rationale for ruling against the US House in their lawsuit over Trump’s emergency border funding power grab. Also remember that the Courts had no problem with standing in US House v Azar. So think individual chambers still need to be able to sue over actions that by totally bypass their authority and ability to act as a check on the executive. Otherwise we end up codifying a situation where one chamber can totally prevent judicial review by refusing to sign off on a lawsuit.

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sagehen  Jun 17, 2019 • 10:06:17am

re: #170 Joe Bacon 🌹

Isn’t that Shaklee?

OMG you’re right! now I’m wondering how I got confused about that, I was so sure…

191
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2019 • 10:06:40am

re: #190 sagehen

OMG you’re right! now I’m wondering how I got confused about that, I was so sure…

Same scam!

192
Lidane  Jun 17, 2019 • 10:09:45am

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow. As a photo, that’s both Pulitzer-worthy and scary as all hell.

Just look at all the economic anxiety in that photo. Dude’s struggling so much he was able to afford all that firepower. 🙄

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Charles Johnson  Jun 17, 2019 • 10:12:40am
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 17, 2019 • 10:14:00am

re: #184 lawhawk

I very much doubt that courts will allow the acceptance of pardons as evidence. What this decision preserves is the ability to take a pardon and still refuse to testify as long as jeopardy still hypothetically exists in another jurisdiction.

195
lawhawk  Jun 17, 2019 • 10:14:12am

re: #193 Charles Johnson

And their lawns never looked so manicured. /

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 17, 2019 • 10:14:17am

re: #193 Charles Johnson

But I thought it was the cows who were supposed to come home?

//

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2019 • 10:17:45am

re: #186 danarchy

As long as their population was counted towards that states congressional representation it would give them exactly as much representation as any other city.

Would Virgina or Maryland be allowed to vote on the issue of unrepaired streets in the city, or the need to update the sewage system?

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2019 • 10:20:00am

re: #189 goddamnedfrank

Disagree in principle because my fear is that Gorsuch only joined this ruling to tee up a rationale for ruling against the US House in their lawsuit over Trump’s emergency border funding power grab. Also remember that the Courts had no problem with standing in US House v Azar. So think individual chambers still need to be able to sue over actions that by totally bypass their authority and ability to act as a check on the executive. Otherwise we end up codifying a situation where one chamber can totally prevent judicial review by refusing to sign off on a lawsuit.

Except the Constitution does give the House authority in the areas you describe.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 17, 2019 • 11:02:59am

re: #186 danarchy

As long as their population was counted towards that states congressional representation it would give them exactly as much representation as any other city.

Then the District of Columbia would become part of the state of MD; It is not. I am leaving VA out of this because they already took their land back. The state of MD doesn’t need nor want to take the land back. Nor would the city want to lose autonomy, which it would by force of annexation. You can’t dissociate the representation from the block of land; i.e., you can’t give the representation to MD (both house and senate) and give the city the autonomy that it deserves.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 17, 2019 • 11:07:09am

re: #197 Belafon

Would Virgina or Maryland be allowed to vote on the issue of unrepaired streets in the city, or the need to update the sewage system?

DC needs to be autonomous entity, giving it back to MD (VA has already taken its land back) would remove that autonomy. And having MD take on the burden of the issues in DC is nothing that we (MD’ers) would ever agree to.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2019 • 1:29:52pm

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah, and they’re doing this because you pulled us out of the fucking deal, Donny!

It’s like dumping your GF and then getting upset when she starts dating someone else

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Old Liberal  Jun 17, 2019 • 5:17:06pm

re: #136 MsJ

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I wrote yesterday this didn’t smell right. And the fucking police were already doing a coverup


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