A Classic Message: Tom Waits, “Hold On” [VIDEO]

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I’ve posted this one before, but we can always stand to hear this message again.

They hung a sign up in our town
“if you live it up, you won’t
live it down”
So, she left Monte Rio, son
Just like a bullet leaves a gun
With charcoal eyes and Monroe hips
She went and took that California trip
Well, the moon was gold, her
Hair like wind
She said don’t look back just
Come on Jim

Oh you got to
Hold on, Hold on
You got to hold on
Take my hand, I’m standing right here
You gotta hold on

Well, he gave her a dimestore watch
And a ring made from a spoon
Everyone is looking for someone to blame
But you share my bed, you share my name
Well, go ahead and call the cops
You don’t meet nice girls in coffee shops
She said baby, I still love you
Sometimes there’s nothin left to do

Oh you got to
Hold on, hold on
You got to hold on
Take my hand, I’m standing right here, you got to
Just hold on.

Well, God bless your crooked little heart St. Louis got the best of me
I miss your broken-china voice
How I wish you were still here with me

Well, you build it up, you wreck it down
You burn your mansion to the ground
When there’s nothing left to keep you here, when
You’re falling behind in this
Big blue world

Oh you go to
Hold on, hold on
You got to hold on
Take my hand, I’m standing right here
You got to hold on

Down by the Riverside motel,
It’s 10 below and falling
By a 99 cent store she closed her eyes
And started swaying
But it’s so hard to dance that way
When it’s cold and there’s no music
Well your old hometown is so far away
But, inside your head there’s a record
That’s playing, a song called

Hold on, hold on
You really got to hold on
Take my hand, I’m standing right here
And just hold on

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302 comments

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teleskiguy  Jul 8, 2019 • 7:55:09pm

I’ll add this.

Hold On

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:02:10pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:05:25pm
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Belafon  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:05:34pm

re: #2 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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There are far more Christians in the US, and Evangelicals make a point of being loud. Of course they are targeted.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:05:48pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:08:18pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:08:44pm

I got on that stream because I follow Paulogia and this came up on my Twitter stream:

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bratwurst  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:17:36pm

I salute Congressman Swalwell and I would very much like to see a good 10 others face reality like he did and focus on doing what they can do to help this country recover from the Trump era outside of the presidential campaign.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:19:24pm

re: #8 bratwurst

Including Beto who would do my state a great service by running against John Cornyn for his Senate seat.

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teleskiguy  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:21:06pm

I wish the bear could plead ignorance if/when he/she’s caught. I mean, bears can’t drive, can they?

Facebook Post

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:21:39pm

re: #9 Ace Rothstein

Including Beto who would do my state a great service by running against John Cornyn for his Senate seat.

Do you want him to step in in place of MJ Hegar?

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:22:54pm

If you like cooking, read this thread (and the tried replies). You’re gonna love it.

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:22:54pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

I wish the bear could plead ignorance if/when he/she’s caught. I mean, bears can’t drive, can they?

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Was it really driving if the car wasn’t on?

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calochortus  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:23:00pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

I wish the bear could plead ignorance if/when he/she’s caught. I mean, bears can’t drive, can they?

[Embedded content]

So bears in Colorado can’t get into a locked car? California bears just peel back the window/frame. Of course they have easier egress when they do that, so presumably they have less incentive to drive off.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:23:26pm

re: #11 Belafon

My apologies. I thought she was running for the House. She would be a much more formidable candidate than Beto.

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teleskiguy  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:25:14pm

Throwing down the gauntlet.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:26:30pm

re: #16 teleskiguy

She and the rest of the Democrats will back down by noon tomorrow.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:27:00pm

Oy.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:27:36pm

re: #18 MsJ

I don’t believe in heaven or hell, but…

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teleskiguy  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:28:03pm

re: #17 Ace Rothstein

Ye of little faith (understandable), HOLD ON!

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teleskiguy  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:31:19pm

The questions that need answered.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:33:33pm

re: #21 teleskiguy

Jeebus, who is he?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:35:46pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:39:34pm

re: #22 Ace Rothstein

YouTube “race-realism” hustler and “men’s rights advocate” that gets retweeted often by a couple of banned members of LGF.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:41:23pm

re: #21 teleskiguy

And Twitter is okay with that?

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Chrysicat  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:44:22pm

This might earn me a downding for jumping on the Right’s feelings about Bubba, but:


[“GCF”, of course, being “Gender-critical Feminist”. No reason to set an even BIGGER fire in my mentions by using the actual acronym “TERF”.]
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calochortus  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:44:48pm

re: #25 Patricia Kayden

And Twitter is okay with that?

Just asking questions, right?

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teleskiguy  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:45:26pm

re: #25 Patricia Kayden

And Twitter is okay with that?

They’re okay with every manner of hate speech. It’s shameful. Even Andrew Anglin, editor of The Daily Stormer, still has a sock puppet Twitter active to this day, spreading the ugliest hate.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:45:29pm

Grain of salt. etc.

Recreational marijuana legalization tied to decline in teens using pot, study says

Marijuana use among young people in the United States overall has climbed in recent years, but a new paper suggests that in states where recreational marijuana has been legalized, marijuana use among youth may actually be falling.

Laws that legalized recreational marijuana were associated with an 8% drop in the number of high schoolers who said they used marijuana in the last 30 days, and a 9% drop in the number who said they’d used at least 10 times in the last 30 days, according to the paper published in the medical journal JAMA Pediatrics on Monday.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:46:10pm

re: #29 Amory Blaine

Forbidden fruits are always more tempting.

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MsJ  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:47:30pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:47:44pm

re: #29 Amory Blaine

Grain of salt. etc.

Recreational marijuana legalization tied to decline in teens using pot, study says

Makes sense in that it’s now seen as less transgressive.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:52:31pm

re: #31 MsJ

Why all these closed door hearings? Isn’t the point of these hearings to get Republicans in front of the public? I don’t get it.

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Kilroy was here  Jul 8, 2019 • 8:52:55pm

re: #10 teleskiguy


The bear’s last sighting..
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 8, 2019 • 9:13:36pm

Well the Qwazy Qbots were wrong again. It’s past 12 midnight on the East Coast and Mueller didn’t arrest Bill and Hillary…

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teleskiguy  Jul 8, 2019 • 9:16:29pm
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mmmirele  Jul 8, 2019 • 9:24:00pm

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

Makes sense in that it’s now seen as less transgressive.

Speaking of transgressive—when I lived in Utah, one way to be transgressive, either as an adult or teen, was to go and buy a coffee or tea at a coffee shop. Quelle scandale! It’s somewhat the case here in Mesa as well. We have as many standalone soda shops as there are standalone coffee shops in my neighborhood.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 8, 2019 • 9:25:28pm

re: #35 Joe Bacon 🌹

yOU’RE NOT LOookING aT THE JUlian calandar!!!11!!!TY

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 8, 2019 • 9:25:57pm

re: #37 mmmirele

Speaking of transgressive—when I lived in Utah, one way to be transgressive, either as an adult or teen, was to go and buy a coffee or tea at a coffee shop. Quelle scandale! It’s somewhat the case here in Mesa as well. We have as many standalone soda shops as there are standalone coffee shops in my neighborhood.

Remember my Aunt telling us of the time she was in the Salt Lake City AAA office getting her Triptik updated. She made the fatal mistake of lighting a cigarette and a man next to her pulled it out of her mouth and scolded her.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 8, 2019 • 9:28:09pm
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Amory Blaine  Jul 8, 2019 • 9:37:51pm

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sagehen  Jul 8, 2019 • 9:48:05pm

re: #37 mmmirele

Speaking of transgressive—when I lived in Utah, one way to be transgressive, either as an adult or teen, was to go and buy a coffee or tea at a coffee shop. Quelle scandale! It’s somewhat the case here in Mesa as well. We have as many standalone soda shops as there are standalone coffee shops in my neighborhood.

For Hasidic teens… it’s McDonald’s. OMG that cheeseburger somebody told their mom they’d been seen with? Mom would’ve rather they were smoking pot.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:10:38pm

re: #4 Belafon

There are far more Christians in the US, and Evangelicals make a point of being loud. Of course they are targeted.

And they’re busy grifting from their church followers.

Better Start Swimming or You’ll Sink Like a Stone (goes to Slacktavist, with maps of the SE Florida coast’s churches and expected sea level inundation of the coastline).

Slacktavist notes the huge number of Evangelical, Pentecostal, and other such churches on the Florida coastline, which sea level rise will inundate. That would include their schools, their parishioners’ home, everything.

Steve Strang is the owner of Charisma magazine. He’s made millions of dollars pitching that magazine and its religious articles precisely to Charismatics.

Strang lives and works in Orlando. He recently went on Keven Copeland’s show to rail against climate change, arguing its really a Democratic plot to justify turning everything into socialism and force government control on everything. (I can say that he’s lying about all that.)

Strang is also now an elderly man but probably has a couple decades left to grift from gullible religious people in the name of religion. He won’t have to deal with the effects of Florida’s coastline being inundated, because he’ll be dead.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:15:11pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:21:53pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

I wish the bear could plead ignorance if/when he/she’s caught. I mean, bears can’t drive, can they?[Embedded content]

Boulder County, Colo. gives the exact opposite advice to the police in Churchill, Manitoba.

When we were in Churchill, we were informed right away that every person in town keeps their car unlocked. If a polar bear wanders through the area, that gives people the opportunity to jump into a car and lock it so the bear can’t get them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:22:57pm

re: #44 Dread Pirate

How the hell is she qualified to join the National Economic Council?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:25:38pm
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Cheechako  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:25:42pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹

How the hell is she qualified to join the National Economic Council?

Qualifications for a job in the trump admin? Surely you jest!!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:32:26pm

re: #48 Cheechako

Qualifications for a job in the trump admin? Surely you jest!!

She’s white, young, and blonde. I believe those are the qualifications.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:32:43pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:41:54pm
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Dread Pirate  Jul 8, 2019 • 10:44:35pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:00:52pm

This looks like a not-so-subtle attempt at rodent copulation in Maine’s senatorial election next year (thread and comments):

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:07:19pm

‘Pro-Lifers’ Don’t Think Veterans Deserve In Vitro Treatments, Because ‘Pro-Life’ (Wonkette, more at the link):

If there is anything the Right loves to talk about, it is how much they love fetuses and also the troops. They just can’t get enough of them, they say, which perhaps explains why they keep dragging us all into unnecessary wars and opposing sex education in schools.

Thus, it may surprise you to learn that congressional Democrats are having a hell of a time trying to make permanent a federal program meant to cover the costs of in vitro fertilization for veterans whose injuries in combat have rendered them infertile. And yet they are! Why? Because many forced birth enthusiasts oppose IVF treatment, on account of the fact that (unless someone wants to go full Octomom) it requires the destruction of fertilized embryos.

I will give you a moment to try and process the mental gymnastics one would need to do in order to be more concerned about the destruction of embryos than they are about war, which so often results in the destruction of non-embryonic people.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:14:06pm

Repeating what I wrote last night: The Tories are going down the drain with Brexit and dragging the rest of the UK with them:

In jumping in with Boris Johnson, even moderate Tories have lost all credibility

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:18:52pm

As goes Grimsby, so goes the whole nation:

Shock poll predicts Brexit Party will win in Grimsby and Cleethorpes at next election

Conservatives and Labour could be in trouble in North East Lincolnshire, with one pollster predicting that both Grimsby and Cleethorpes will be won by the Brexit Party at the next election.

Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party made huge in-roads into UK politics during the European Parliament elections in May, taking 52 per cent of all the votes cast in North East Lincolnshire.

According to a senior pollster, that success is likely to continue at the next general election with victories in Grimsby and Cleethorpes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:29:45pm

Woman who was told her rape was a ‘good thing’ by Southern Baptist leader files lawsuit (Fort Worth Star-Telegram)

The douchecanoe in question is Paige Patterson.

“Void of even the most basic standards of support for victims required by state and federal law, SWBTS had put in place a construct in which sexual harassment and violence were ignored — or at times — even celebrated by its leaders,” the lawsuit says. “Through intimidation and victim-blaming, any young woman who dared speak up was shamed into silence.”

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Dread Pirate  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:35:38pm

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹

Woman who was told her rape was a ‘good thing’ by Southern Baptist leader files lawsuit (Fort Worth Star-Telegram)

The douchecanoe in question is Paige Patterson.

You’re talking about the kind of people who need the threat of eternal damnation in hell to make themselves behave in a socially acceptable manner.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:37:19pm

re: #58 Dread Pirate

What do I know? I just thought it was good manners not to rape somebody.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:37:20pm

re: #58 Dread Pirate

You’re talking about the kind of people who need the threat of eternal damnation in hell to make themselves behave in a socially acceptable manner.

Yup. I hear it plenty enough.

If you need religion to make you a moral person, by all means, don’t give up your religion.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:38:33pm

re: #59 Dread Pirate

What do I know? I just thought it was good manners not to rape somebody.

Well, it’s not in the Ten Commandments, right there with “don’t own people as property.”

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:50:58pm
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Dread Pirate  Jul 8, 2019 • 11:51:26pm

I’ve been absentmindedly puffing away on a THC vape cartridge of Maui Wowie for the past hour. I’ve got a screaming big buzz going on.

Reefer Madness

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 12:01:03am

re: #4 Belafon

There are far more Christians in the US, and Evangelicals make a point of being loud. Of course they are targeted.

Have not seen a lot of Muslims wanting to display the Koran on public property and buildings…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 12:03:24am

re: #10 teleskiguy

I wish the bear could plead ignorance if/when he/she’s caught. I mean, bears can’t drive, can they?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 12:05:22am

re: #23 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

THREAD: The next UK Prime Minister will soon be chosen by around 160,000 members of the Conservative Party - that’s 0.2% of the population. Almost half of the members are now over 65, 71% are male and 97% are white.

That really is a throwback to the Parliament of 1215.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 12:05:37am

re: #64 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Have not seen a lot of Muslims wanting to display the Koran on public property and buildings…

Would Chris Coons Want Me to Talk about My Faith If I Were Running for Office? (Pharyngula)

Coons biases are showing nakedly in this essay in which he says Democrats need to talk about their faith, using the example of Sherrod Brown, who got all this attention from the electorate for openly making a big deal of his Christian beliefs. So, he argues, everyone needs to make it part of their stump speech.

What’s implied is that this is a fine strategy for Christians.

I guarantee you that if I were running for office (fortunately, I’m not) Coons would be telling me to hush about the atheism thing. If I were Muslim and running for the presidency, my religion would be a huge issue; that’s a campaign that wouldn’t even get off the ground, all because people like Coons and Brown are making their Christianity a ploy in their run for office.

Yup, just being an atheist worked against me running for reëlection. That’s all it took, the write-in candidate going around asking “do you really want an atheist representing you on the village board?” Poof, I lost the election by two votes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 12:07:06am

re: #37 mmmirele

Remember that the ice cream “Sundae” was invented because in many places it was forbidden to sell soda water on a Sunday.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 12:09:51am

re: #58 Dread Pirate

You’re talking about the kind of people who need the threat of eternal damnation in hell getting caught out and shamed to make themselves behave in a socially acceptable manner.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 12:12:46am

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹

Being an atheist makes you a dangerous outsider in their view, someone who is not part of the fellowship of a church where they can shame you and otherwise exercise social control.

Pete Buttgieg is doing a good job of referring to his Christian faith while calling out religious bigots like Pence and Graham.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 12:15:02am

re: #70 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Being an atheist makes you a dangerous outsider in their view, someone who is not part of the fellowship of a church where they can shame you and otherwise exercise social control.

Pete Buttgieg is doing a good job of referring to his Christian faith while calling out religious bigots like Pence and Graham.

And he’s doing the same thing as Chris Coons. That a faith position (regardless of what it is) makes for a good candidate, not the candidate’s ideas on governance.

In the meantime,

I’m going to have to go with the atheist position on this one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 12:18:54am

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

And he’s doing the same thing as Chris Coons. That a faith position (regardless of what it is) makes for a good candidate, not the candidate’s ideas on governance.

In the meantime,

I’m going to have to go with the atheist position on this one.

I do not take Pete too seriously, he is too young and inexperienced but he has certainly put himself on the map with this campaign and I expect to be seeing more of him.

But we need more than prayers to run a country, we need thoughts and well-planned actions.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 9, 2019 • 12:29:18am

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I don’t think that works on ‘them’.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 9, 2019 • 12:30:31am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 1:04:24am

Mexican alligator lizard. Endangered species.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 1:24:10am

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

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Dread Pirate  Jul 9, 2019 • 1:53:38am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 2:10:14am

It’s Time To Panic: The Trade War Will Hit Scotch Whiskey Next (Goes to RedState)

Well, it took them long enough, but down in this article RedState admits tariffs are taxes on our people and companies, not other countries.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 2:26:47am

Wingnuts are going crazy again on the TCOT hashtag on Twitter …

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 9, 2019 • 3:09:45am

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

Interesting to see that Blacks are at a higher percentage than Latinos.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 3:09:51am

I killed the thread.

Was it something I wrote?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 3:32:37am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹

Just that time of day/night, we are like the last living cells in a dying body…

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sagehen  Jul 9, 2019 • 3:33:15am

re: #80 Patricia Kayden

Interesting to see that Blacks are at a higher percentage than Latinos.

And the religious affiliation breakdown didn’t even bother to ask Jews, because they already knew we’d be about 85% yes.

myjewishlearning.com

In late 1938, 125,000 applicants lined up outside US consulates hoping to obtain 27,000 visas under the existing immigration quota. By June 1939, the number of applicants had increased to over 300,000. Most visa applicants were unsuccessful. At the Evian Conference in July 1938, only the Dominican Republic stated that it was prepared to admit significant numbers of refugees, although Bolivia would admit around 30,000 Jewish immigrants between 1938 and 1941.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 3:37:47am

re: #83 sagehen

And the religious affiliation breakdown didn’t even bother to ask Jews, because they already knew we’d be about 85% yes.

myjewishlearning.com

They explained that. Jews/Muslims/Hindus/&c were included in the total, but as such small portions of the religious landscape they could not meaningfully break down the numbers into their crosstabs (education, age group, &c).

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 3:41:08am

There is an explanation for all the airlifed goats from Olympic National Park the other day.

The unfunny explanation:

Aggressive Goats Addicted to Human Urine Airlifted Out of Olympic National Park, WA (goes to Snow Brains)

The funny explanation (goes to Utah Outcasts, caution for coarse language and adult concepts, 8:14)

Mountain Goats Forced Into Relocation For…Reasons

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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 9, 2019 • 3:41:31am

I forgot about how my older sisters would wear rings made of spoon handles. Funny how song lyrics bring out memories from the past.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 3:47:39am

re: #85 Anymouse 🌹

Aggressive Goats Addicted to Human Urine Airlifted Out of Olympic National Park, WA (goes to Snow Brains)

Whatever floats your goat…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 3:52:28am

re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Whatever floats your goat…

::P

A number of people speculate the seventeen goats which disappeared were turned into dinner by people involved in their movement.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 3:56:06am

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹

::P

A number of people speculate the seventeen goats which disappeared were turned into dinner by people involved in their movement.

lovely flavor & tenderness from all the piss & sweat they were consuming…

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sagehen  Jul 9, 2019 • 4:04:03am

Amy McGrath just released a barn-burner of a campaign ad (she’s running against McConnell)

“The Letter” — Amy McGrath for U.S. Senate

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sagehen  Jul 9, 2019 • 4:05:02am

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹

::P

A number of people speculate the seventeen goats which disappeared were turned into dinner by people involved in their movement.

And they’re both kosher and halal!!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 9, 2019 • 4:16:34am

...

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 4:24:14am

Wyoming Supreme Court Orders Torrington Attorney to Be Disbarred (goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

What a case. A woman retained the attorney in Torrington for her divorce case. Subsequent to that, the state supreme court says they exchanged eleven thousand text messages and images over the next six months.

Her husband complained in March to the state bar that her lawyer entered into a romantic relationship with her while she was still married to her husband and the divorce case was ongoing.

The state Division of Criminal Investigation then raided the lawyer’s office and home, seizing the communications.

Never a dull moment around here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 4:39:57am
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jeffreyw  Jul 9, 2019 • 4:55:47am

Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 5:20:19am

re: #95 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

“Where’s our breakfast?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 5:36:55am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 5:40:22am

JFC

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 5:41:14am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 5:44:41am

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bring back the Bellamy salute!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 5:50:00am

O_o

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 5:53:33am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 5:53:38am

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

On Fox & Friends, Kellyanne Conway argues that including a citizenship question in the US census is really no big deal because the census asks even more “intrusive/invasion” questions, such as “how many toilets [are] in your house” and “who’s using them.”

Brilliant brush-off talking point. Border Control agents are not going to come round you up if you do not have enough toilets…

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Old Liberal  Jul 9, 2019 • 5:53:44am

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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They can take our freedom, but they’ll never take our toilets.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 5:54:28am

Robots to replace professional bowlers next. Would this strike be allowed? (video, 0:10)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 5:55:15am

tiny violins…

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jimmyvluv4u  Jul 9, 2019 • 5:55:53am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

computer generated fake

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 5:59:22am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 5:59:24am

re: #108 Teukka

Homer does it better:

Simpsons clip 2 “Chainsaw Gang”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:00:07am

re: #107 jimmyvluv4u

computer generated fake

Well, professional bowlers are safe for now then.

mashable.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:04:54am

re: #107 jimmyvluv4u

computer generated fake

well that was certainly over the line…

113
jeffreyw  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:05:21am

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹

“Where’s our breakfast?”

There can only be ONE!

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makeitstop  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:07:54am

re: #108 Teukka

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Video

I always use the lyrebird video as an excuse to post this XTC song.

I Bought Myself A Liarbird (2001 Remaster)

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MsJ  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:10:43am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:12:06am

The Breitbarts of the world are among the things that led to Trump…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:13:31am

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

tiny violins…

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Just what we need…another Milo…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:14:36am

re: #115 MsJ

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And she gets to snort lines with Larry!

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lawhawk  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:15:07am

re: #108 Teukka

It’s a goddamned mockingjay!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:15:37am

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

: Tommy Robinson to Seek Political Asylum in United States, Says He Will Be Murdered in Prison: They will kill him in prison. He is seeking asylum. I pray President Trump grants it.

Then he should be put in a camp with all the other applicants and treated no differently…

121
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:16:59am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:17:18am

re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Then he should be put in a camp with all the other applicants and treated no differently…

He has a long criminal record, including trying to enter the USA on someone else’s passport. He is banned from the United States.

His asylum claim from the United Kingdom is ludicrous on it’s face.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:18:43am

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

Take a second to consider the irony of a guy using the slogan “Build the Wall” to run for Senate in the U.S. state that is literally the farthest away from any international border.

Because The Wall is a symbol and a rallying point, not a real thing that is ever going to be built.

124
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:20:22am

sure, jan…

125
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:21:03am
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DangerMan  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:22:48am

re: #90 sagehen

Amy McGrath just released a barn-burner of a campaign ad (she’s running against McConnell)

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Woo and hoo
I’m ecstatic

“Former Marine Corps fighter pilot Amy McGrath announced Tuesday that she wants to challenge U.S. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell in November 2020, ending months of speculation about whether she’d try to take out one of the most powerful political figures in the country,” the Lexington Herald Leader reports”

127
jeffreyw  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:26:43am

Anyone we know?

128
lawhawk  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:27:20am

McGrath has an uphill battle to beat McConnell. It’s not impossible, but it’s going to be a tough slog against one of the most awful men to ever hold office in the US Senate.

But if she pulls it off, then the odds of the Senate going to the Democrats - and the Democrats taking the WH, go up immeasurably (and likely signifies yet another blue wave to add to the tsunuami in 2018).

129
Belafon  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:36:49am

re: #128 lawhawk

McGrath has an uphill battle to beat McConnell. It’s not impossible, but it’s going to be a tough slog against one of the most awful men to ever hold office in the US Senate.

But if she pulls it off, then the odds of the Senate going to the Democrats - and the Democrats taking the WH, go up immeasurably (and likely signifies yet another blue wave to add to the tsunuami in 2018).

If she somehow beat him, that would change the Senate even if the Democrats failed to take it over.

130
Belafon  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:38:16am

I personally think once a year, on July 4th, we should sing the anthem and say the Pledge and be done with it.

131
MsJ  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:38:49am

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

tiny violins…

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Gross. Trump likely will bring Robinson here. Christ.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:39:05am

re: #128 lawhawk

Who’s this person commenting on Stonekettle’s tweet? /s

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:39:29am
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MsJ  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:40:56am

re: #123 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because The Wall is a symbol and a rallying point, not a real thing that is ever going to be built.

The Wall is almost like Socialism. It’s a concept. And as trump says it’s being built and has been built, it’s all smoke and mirrors that his moron followers believe.

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DangerMan  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:41:37am

re: #128 lawhawk

McGrath has an uphill battle to beat McConnell. It’s not impossible, but it’s going to be a tough slog against one of the most awful men to ever hold office in the US Senate.

But if she pulls it off, then the odds of the Senate going to the Democrats - and the Democrats taking the WH, go up immeasurably (and likely signifies yet another blue wave to add to the tsunuami in 2018).

She’s a good one to go after him

John Hickenlooper in Colorado
Steve Bullock (D-MT) in Montana
Beto O’Rourke in Texas
Stacey Abrams in Georgia
Josh Stein (D) in North Carolina

Priorities people!
Lead with your best

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DangerMan  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:42:29am

re: #130 Belafon

I personally think once a year, on July 4th, we should sing the anthem and say the Pledge and be done with it.

In front of four rusted tanks on flatbeds?

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MsJ  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:44:02am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:45:14am

re: #131 MsJ

Gross. Trump likely will bring Robinson here. Christ.

Well if he does there are plenty of milkshakes waiting to welcome that thug!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:45:49am

re: #129 Belafon

If she somehow beat him, that would change the Senate even if the Democrats failed to take it over.

I would expect the next GOP majority leader to be as bad or worse…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:47:51am

re: #134 MsJ

The Wall is almost like Socialism. It’s a concept. And as trump says it’s being built and has been built, it’s all smoke and mirrors that his moron followers believe.

If they were at all serious, there would be a planning commission, there would be legal and environmental impact statements, engineering and design studies, a proposed budget and timetable.

A man who claims to have experience in large construction projects would know that…

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DangerMan  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:51:05am

re: #140 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If they were at all serious, there would be a planning commission, there would be legal and environmental impact statements, engineering and design studies, a proposed budget and timetable.

A man who claims to have experience in large construction projects would know that…

A man who had actual experience….

142
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:52:24am

FYI: Democrats in Kenton County are generally solid Blue Dogs. They also would prefer to back a white male instead.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:54:22am

re: #127 jeffreyw

I have a ton of baby anoles and blue tailed skinks here. Cute off the charts!

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Belafon  Jul 9, 2019 • 6:56:22am

re: #135 DangerMan

She’s a good one to go after him

John Hickenlooper in Colorado
Steve Bullock (D-MT) in Montana
Beto O’Rourke in Texas
Stacey Abrams in Georgia
Josh Stein (D) in North Carolina

Priorities people!
Lead with your best

Change Beto to MJ Hegar.

145
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:01:59am
146
MsJ  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:04:14am

re: #141 DangerMan

A man who had actual experience….

But donny knows more than anyone in the world…about everything and anything and nothing and he is the bestest ever

147
MsJ  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:04:46am

Meeting time…BBIAB.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:09:40am
149
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:11:57am

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

The UK ambassador’s description of Trump as “insecure” made to look increasingly foolish by this barrage of logical, well-composed messages that it no way resemble the bitter outcries of a dumped 13 year old…

and as for “inept”, just count the number of vacant positions and ones that have changed or lost their occupant repeatedly…

150
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:13:42am
151
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:14:36am
152
Dave In Austin  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:14:51am

Question,

What’s the best way to report online extortion? I’m getting hit with multiple. “Save Yourself” threats to reveal my shady perverted browser history and vids taken with my hijacked webcam?

Fuck these people.

153
Belafon  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:16:36am

re: #152 Dave In Austin

Question,

What’s the best way to report online extortion? I’m getting hit with multiple. “Save Yourself” threats to reveal my shady perverted browser history and vids taken with my hijacked webcam?

Fuck these people.

The FBI.

154
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:16:42am
155
jeffreyw  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:17:34am

re: #143 A Mom Anon

I have a ton of baby anoles and blue tailed skinks here. Cute off the charts!

We have skinks and fence lizards aplenty. Haven’t seen any others around but I’m not really looking.

156
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:20:04am

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

I know you don’t read, but try to power through this: the Census is not about counting American citizens, it’s about counting people in the United States. If some people refuse to respond because they’re here illegally, then we don’t know how many PEOPLE are here. Doy. Get it?

Remember back when they even counted the slaves, which were considered property, although they only valued them at 60% in terms of representation and funding?

157
Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:22:32am

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Patriot?”

Why is that in the tweet?

158
Dave In Austin  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:24:19am

re: #153 Belafon

A little research shows it’s a fairly common scam off ATT who is my provider. They all go to the spam folder so they are hard to filter.

159
Sea Mexican  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:25:08am

re: #80 Patricia Kayden

Interesting to see that Blacks are at a higher percentage than Latinos.

Not that surprising. Latinos as a group are fractured. It just happens that they tend to agree more often than not.

160
Dave In Austin  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:29:12am

Chuck Todd comparing Ross Perot to Orange Asshole.

Nope.

161
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:30:13am

re: #159 Sea Mexican

Not that surprising. Latinos as a group are fractured. It just happens that they tend to agree more often than not.

There are Cuban Latinos, along with those whose families have been here for generations (since before the Anglos came) and then the more recent immigrants.

162
lawhawk  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:30:43am
163
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:31:53am
164
Dave In Austin  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:33:14am

re: #162 lawhawk

Well that explains it…….

165
Belafon  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:33:38am

Ross Perot got Texas to pass No-Pass-No-Play and the requirement that students pass standardized tests to leave certain grades - including graduation - here in Texas. Not bad ideas, but the latter turned into a way to eliminate teachers.

166
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:34:31am
167
lawhawk  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:38:05am
168
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:40:55am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mike Pompeo: How can there be human rights we possess simply by virtue of our humanity? Are we really endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights? Let’s form a commission to investigate the real crisis of our times: too many human rights.

Or as Putin put it more succinctly: “Liberalism is dead!!!”

169
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:43:30am

I always thought that these rights exist by mutual consent: if we wish to exercise them ourselves, we cannot deny them to others.

Which makes it an important bit of strategy to make people feel cowed and unwilling to assert their own rights voluntarily before then seeking to actively take them away from others who might try to defend them.

170
Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:43:50am

re: #152 Dave In Austin

Question,

What’s the best way to report online extortion? I’m getting hit with multiple. “Save Yourself” threats to reveal my shady perverted browser history and vids taken with my hijacked webcam?

Fuck these people.

For a while I got those in my E-mail.

It is difficult to report because frequently the sending E-mail address is spoofed.

If your Internet provider has a reporting system, they will normally have someplace on their Website an E-mail address to report abuse. You can also send it to the provider it came from (but you’re left with the problem of a spoofed E-mail).

The E-mail address to report is usually structured as “abuse (at) shittywebhost (dot) com” or “webmaster (at) pricegougers (dot) com”

Even if the E-mail address is spoofed, it is sometimes worth it to report it to the host the E-mail purportedly came from.

We had an invoice scam here in Nebraska which spoofed the E-mail address of the state Emergency Management Agency public information officer. The invoice scam was sent to every public information officer in the state (from a list lifted from state computers).

I reported it to NEMA and the state government, which then advised all public information officers to ignore the E-mails and watch for suspicious activity related to their E-mail accounts (such as on-line banking in cities where they have that).

171
Dave In Austin  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:49:46am

re: #170 Anymouse 🌹

I wish I could reply……..

Go ahead… Make my day.

172
Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:49:47am

Continuing #170: When you report the information to the Webhost or ISP, copy the header information from the E-mail, copy the text, and include all attachments.

Also report it to the FBI’s site for reporting E-mail scams at spam@uce.gov as they track that and use it as evidence if they can rope in a scammer for fraud.

173
NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:51:53am

re: #93 Anymouse 🌹

Wyoming Supreme Court Orders Torrington Attorney to Be Disbarred (goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

What a case. A woman retained the attorney in Torrington for her divorce case. Subsequent to that, the state supreme court says they exchanged eleven thousand text messages and images over the next six months.

Her husband complained in March to the state bar that her lawyer entered into a romantic relationship with her while she was still married to her husband and the divorce case was ongoing.

The state Division of Criminal Investigation then raided the lawyer’s office and home, seizing the communications.

Never a dull moment around here.

It wasn’t that long ago that the Kentucky Bar made starting sexual relationships with clients a violation of the ethics rules.

174
Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:53:31am

Thread, three tweets, about the Nebraska State Patrol officer killed in my county seat.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:54:23am

re: #173 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It wasn’t that long ago that the Kentucky Bar made starting sexual relationships with clients a violation of the ethics rules.

animals okay, clients not okay

176
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:56:28am

New word, “jackalass,” a combined jackass and jackal, to be applied to Republican media and political figures.

177
NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:58:13am

re: #128 lawhawk

McGrath has an uphill battle to beat McConnell. It’s not impossible, but it’s going to be a tough slog against one of the most awful men to ever hold office in the US Senate.

But if she pulls it off, then the odds of the Senate going to the Democrats - and the Democrats taking the WH, go up immeasurably (and likely signifies yet another blue wave to add to the tsunuami in 2018).

Very long odds. She lost to Andy Barr, and 4 of the other 5 districts are even redder. Kentucky is old, white and poorly educated; the one thing she has in her favor is no-one likes the Yurtle.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:58:25am

CowAppreciationDay is a trending hashtag on Twitter.

Perhaps I should appreciate a steak tonight.

179
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 9, 2019 • 7:59:28am

re: #173 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It wasn’t that long ago that the Kentucky Bar made starting sexual relationships with clients a violation of the ethics rules.

Cousins and siblings are still ok then?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:00:23am

re: #171 Dave In Austin

I wish I could reply……..

Go ahead… Make my day.

Did you get good pictures through the electrical tape over my camera?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:04:28am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Did Thomas Jefferson really mean all men are created equal? Can slavery and involuntary servitude be consistent with Natural Law? Let’s discuss.”

/

182
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:05:30am

Steyer is getting very little love on Twitter.

I don’t mind him running. In some ways, this is very much typical. People often run for President not because they think they can win that office, but to raise their visibility to the public.

183
Sir John Barron  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:07:12am

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

“ILL MAKE A BETTER LAW. FAST!”

/

184
Belafon  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:08:01am

I like her quote:

185
Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:09:06am

re: #181 Sir John Barron

“Did Thomas Jefferson really mean all men are created equal? Can slavery and involuntary servitude be consistent with Natural Law? Let’s discuss.”

/

Slavery is promoted in the Bible. Mike Pompeo is a Bible literalist.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:09:20am
187
Belafon  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:10:24am

re: #186 Anymouse 🌹

Everyone should post the avatar of Devin Nunes’ cow.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:10:58am

Part of the goal of Pompeo’s jackassery is to defend the assertion that God created us equal, and therefore without (their version of the Christian, Protestant King-James-Bible-speakin’) God, we have no rights, therefore we can treat unbelievers and infidels however we wish…

189
Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:11:11am

I’ll say the Pledge of Allegiance at least once because I have to to become a citizen. Beyond that, I have no specific desire to say it. You shouldn’t need to say a pledge to prove you love this country.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:11:59am

re: #186 Anymouse 🌹

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:12:39am

re: #189 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ll say the Pledge of Allegiance at least once because I have to to become a citizen. Beyond that, I have no specific desire to say it. You shouldn’t need to say a pledge to prove you love this country.

This again has to do with one particular town council dispensing with the Pledge, not an outright ban on those who wish to recite it.

But remember, broadcast news is less about information as it is about incitement.

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Belafon  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:13:12am

re: #188 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Part of the goal of Pompeo’s jackassery is to defend the assertion that God created us equal, and therefore without (their version of the Christian, Protestant King-James-Bible-speakin’) God, we have no rights, therefore we can treat unbelievers and infidels however we wish…

If God created us equal, Pompeo, then why do you keep undermining it?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:13:36am

Also, something to think about: The Trump admin is trying to effectively kill Obamacare and kick millions of people off their insurance.

If they succeed, Republicans will will be even more thrilled to vote for him next year. Hell, he’ll probably name it one of his greatest victories.

194
Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:14:06am

re: #191 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This again has to do with one particular town council dispensing with the Pledge, not an outright ban on those who wish to recite it.

But remember, broadcast news is less about information as it is about incitement.

No, I know that. But I also know this isn’t the first time the RWNJs have gotten their panties in a bunch because of the Pledge.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:16:49am

re: #189 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ll say the Pledge of Allegiance at least once because I have to to become a citizen. Beyond that, I have no specific desire to say it. You shouldn’t need to say a pledge to prove you love this country.

Exactly. Enforced patriotism is not patriotic.

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Belafon  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:17:54am

re: #193 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, something to think about: The Trump admin is trying to effectively kill Obamacare and kick millions of people off their insurance.

If they succeed, Republicans will will be even more thrilled to vote for him next year. Hell, he’ll probably name it one of his greatest victories.

There are lots of people that will suddenly discover they have preexisting conditions they didn’t know they had before. And lots of people will be wondering why their recent graduating son’s emergency appendectomy is costing $20K.

197
steve_davis  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:19:29am

re: #26 Chrysicat

This might earn me a downding for jumping on the Right’s feelings about Bubba, but:

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[“GCF”, of course, being “Gender-critical Feminist”. No reason to set an even BIGGER fire in my mentions by using the actual acronym “TERF”.]

I think this is an absolutely disgusting slander. There is nothing in Clinton’s background that suggests he was interested in girls barely into puberty. It’s just nasty, classic guilt by association. As the release states, he was never at any of Epstein’s residences and met the man once in ten years. He had staff that were with him on logged flights, so it isn’t like we’re in danger of finding photos of Clinton in a hot tub with naked 12 year olds.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:19:58am

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹

Slavery is promoted in the Bible. Mike Pompeo is a Bible literalist.

Biblical slavery was not racially based. So let’s try it on Pompeo first and see whether his opinion of it changes.

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Belafon  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:20:59am

re: #198 Feline Fearless Leader

Biblical slavery was not racially based. So let’s try it on Pompeo first and see whether his opinion of it changes.

And if he complains, tell him he’ll be free in seven years.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:23:08am

re: #194 Eclectic Cyborg

No, I know that. But I also know this isn’t the first time the RWNJs have gotten their panties in a bunch because of the Pledge.

One Nation Under God, just the way it was written!!!

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:24:28am

re: #200 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One Nation Under God, just the way it was written!!!

I do wonder whether the RW whining about the Pledge would heavily decrease if the added “One Nation Under God” was removed and it went back to the older form.

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DangerMan  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:26:14am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I always thought that these rights exist by mutual consent: if we wish to exercise them ourselves, we cannot deny them to others.

Which makes it an important bit of strategy to make people feel cowed and unwilling to assert their own rights voluntarily before then seeking to actively take them away from others who might try to defend them.

imo, human rights exist. full stop.
they are not ‘given’. they cannot be taken away.

- they can and often are suppressed by ‘the state’

- they are not always ‘recognized’ at large (possibly because no one really ever thought about it, or maybe a sea change event occurred that made something relevant)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:28:42am

re: #26 Chrysicat

On the issue of “proving himself innocent,” how does one go about that?

Our system of justice demands a prosecutor prove someone guilty, not the other way round.

As for TERFs, they’re an Astroturf group from right-wing groups such as the Heritage Foundation, which funds their operations. TERFs are a specific group with the aim of dividing the LGBT+ community.

If you pick a different name to identify them, such groups will then go after that name.

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Belafon  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:28:57am

re: #201 Feline Fearless Leader

I do wonder whether the RW whining about the Pledge would heavily decrease if the added “One Nation Under God” was removed and it went back to the older form.

There’s no way to get there, at least not until the number of white Christians drops pretty low. The whining would be deafening, and you would get plenty of middle of the road types that would oppose removing it.

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DangerMan  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:29:41am

re: #177 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Very long odds. She lost to Andy Barr, and 4 of the other 5 districts are even redder. Kentucky is old, white and poorly educated; the one thing she has in her favor is no-one likes the Yurtle.

she needs to make the case to the people of kentucky, ‘you keep voting for him, how exactly has he helped you’?

206
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:31:05am

Okeanos Explorer is broadcasting live again from the Atlantic seafloor…

Oh look, an octopus chasing a spider:

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sagehen  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:31:37am

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹

Slavery is promoted in the Bible. Mike Pompeo is a Bible literalist.

He’s a literalist on a few cherry-picked verses.

A true biblical literalist would support cancelling student debt for anyone who’s made 7 years of payments (jubilee).

A true biblical literalist would be pro-choice at least up until viability (exodus 21:22)

A true biblical literalist would welcome refugees (for we were strangers in Egypt) and confiscatory tax rates and a robust social safety net including universal health care.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:31:46am

re: #202 DangerMan

imo, human rights exist. full stop.
they are not ‘given’. they cannot be taken away.

- they can and often are suppressed by ‘the state’

- they are not always ‘recognized’ at large (possibly because no one really ever thought about it, or maybe a sea change event occurred that made something relevant)

Human rights are specifically defined by societies. They vary by place and time. They do not exist by some sort of “objective lawgiver” (smacking of religion), but defined by people.

Before the Enlightenment, did most people have such things as free speech in most societies? Do property rights exist outside a framework of laws to defend them?

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DangerMan  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:33:32am

re: #191 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This again has to do with one particular town council dispensing with the Pledge, not an outright ban on those who wish to recite it.

But remember, broadcast news is less about information as it is about incitement.

operative words “town council”

local. not county. not state. certainly not federal.
what’s a pledge to the united states got to do with a town?

certainly the council had the power to decide to use the pledge before meetings in the first place
how can they not have the same power to decide not to use it?

asshats

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sagehen  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:33:48am

re: #189 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ll say the Pledge of Allegiance at least once because I have to to become a citizen. Beyond that, I have no specific desire to say it. You shouldn’t need to say a pledge to prove you love this country.

Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t say the pledge, because it’s idolatry.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:34:11am

re: #207 sagehen

From my point outside that faith, everyone cherry-picks.

They do mostly believe I shouldn’t have equal rights, though.

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DangerMan  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:34:51am

re: #196 Belafon

There are lots of people that will suddenly discover they have preexisting conditions they didn’t know they had before. And lots of people will be wondering why their recent graduating son’s emergency appendectomy is costing $20K.

and that’s at the low end

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MsJ  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:36:00am
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John Hughes  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:36:09am

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

% who say the U.S. has a responsibility to accept refugees:
Religiously unaffiliated 65%
Black Protestant 63%
Catholic 50%
White mainline Protestant 43%
White evangelicals 25%

If the Christian god exists (spoiler, it doesn’t) then lots of these so called “Christians” are going to find themselves in a hard place.

41) Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42) For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43) I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44) Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45) Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:37:29am

He sees you:

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John Hughes  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:44:56am

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

He should speak to his country, and Prime Minister May, about their failed Brexit negotiation,

Why would he do that, Donald, he’s the UK ambassador to the US. What connection does he have to the UK/EU negotiations?

I told @theresa_may how to do that deal,

Yes you did, Donald, you told her to sue the EU.

In what court? On what grounds? To what end?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:46:21am

re: #213 MsJ

Whoa! William Barr has “un-recused.” That’s all the proof we need that Trump is smack dab in the middle of this Epstein scandal.

Barr’s one and only job is to protect Trump at all costs.

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Old Liberal  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:46:48am

re: #198 Feline Fearless Leader

Biblical slavery was not racially based. So let’s try it on Pompeo first and see whether his opinion of it changes.

I think it was race based in that Egyptians for example considered others inferior. Race has always been an applied concept.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:47:17am

I’m going to head off to bed.

The area of low pressure which started in Tennessee which the National Hurricane Center predicted would become a tropical storm is now approaching the Florida Coast.

NHC says it’s too soon to predict where the system will make landfall, but they predict it will rapidly develop into a tropical storm as soon as it gets over the Gulf of Mexico.

nhc.noaa.gov

For us here, the National Weather Service has stopped scheduling weather smitings for the next several days.

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DangerMan  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:48:45am

re: #208 Anymouse 🌹

Human rights are specifically defined by societies. They vary by place and time. They do not exist by some sort of “objective lawgiver” (smacking of religion), but defined by people.

Before the Enlightenment, did most people have such things as free speech in most societies? Do property rights exist outside a framework of laws to defend them?

i dont quite agree.
how human rights are recognized and/or enforced are defined by societies.

before the enlightenment… is my point that sometimes things arent recognized till they are - hence “enlightenment’

defending property rights is not the same as ‘having’ them in the first place

Philosophers and lawyers bicker about what grounds human rights. Do we acknowledge them and use government power to protect against their violation simply because we have a history of doing it? Does a right just pop into existence as soon as a certain number of human beings clamors for getting a law passed in its name?

Danger says no:

no one is ‘granted’ extra/new human rights (the emphasis on human)

it is merely supporting the enforcement of allowing people to exercise rights they always had - and were unable to exercise because they were repressed, or went unquestioned/unrecognized

i.e. - civil rights weren’t new rights granted or given to blacks. that would be absurd. those rights were always there. they were repressed by governments (local, state and federal) and those who had power.

i think these types of rights are are intrinsic, though their exercise may be repressed by others

- i have a right to be safe and secure in my person
- i have a right to keep things i come by that i didnt take (steal) from someone else
- i have a right to be mostly left alone unless i choose to live in a group(society)

there are more

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Belafon  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:50:56am

re: #218 Old Liberal

I think it was race based in that Egyptians for example considered others inferior. Race has always been an applied concept.

The concept of slavery defined in the laws in the Bibile didn’t take into account race.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:51:05am

Bill Barr is pure evil.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:52:21am

re: #222 Eclectic Cyborg

The whole fucking bunch are. Evil with feet.

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MsJ  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:53:57am

When trump loses Fox he’s done. Sure, Breitbart and the loudest raving lunatic voices will still be there but Fox is THE propaganda outlet.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:54:43am

re: #224 MsJ

When trump loses Fox he’s done. Sure, Breitbart and the loudest raving lunatic voices will still be there but Fox is THE propaganda outlet.

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Maybe Trump just isn’t good for ratings anymore?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:54:56am

re: #201 Feline Fearless Leader

I do wonder whether the RW whining about the Pledge would heavily decrease if the added “One Nation Under God” was removed and it went back to the older form.

Under which Republican god do they think we should be, Cthulhu or Mammon?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:55:39am

re: #224 MsJ

When trump loses Fox he’s done. Sure, Breitbart and the loudest raving lunatic voices will still be there but Fox is THE propaganda outlet.

It is the umbilical cord that connects him to his base

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 9, 2019 • 8:58:05am

re: #207 sagehen

He’s a literalist on a few cherry-picked verses.

A true biblical literalist would support cancelling student debt for anyone who’s made 7 years of payments (jubilee).

A true biblical literalist would be pro-choice at least up until viability (exodus 21:22)

A true biblical literalist would welcome refugees (for we were strangers in Egypt) and confiscatory tax rates and a robust social safety net including universal health care.

At the reform synagogue Saturday morning service I attended, we recited a prayer that included the following passages:

Let them beat their swords into plowshares
and their spears into pruning hooks.
Let nation not lift up sword against nation
nor learn war any more.
You shall not hate your brother or your sister in your heart.
The stranger that sojourns with you
shall be accepted as your equal,
for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.
“Why do you crush My people and oppress the poor?” asks God.
We know that the Eternal One defends the poor
and upholds the rights of the needy.

Of course, reciting words is easy — it’s actions that matter.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:02:05am

Big spider, big proboscis.

Appears to be trying to suck the life out of something that is long dead:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:06:43am

Juvenile eel trying to hide amongst the urchin’s spine, hoping to not be spotted…

Not going to work, but gets an A for effort:

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DangerMan  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:07:08am

re: #223 A Mom Anon

The whole fucking bunch are. Evil with feet.

+1

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lawhawk  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:07:59am

Flynn’s legal woes aren’t over….

New filings inbound:

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DangerMan  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:09:17am

re: #230 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Juvenile eel trying to hide amongst the urchin’s spine, hoping to not be spotted

Not going to work, but gets an A for effort:

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don’t be silly, they grow that way

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Skip Intro  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:09:50am

re: #217 Dr Lizardo

Barr’s one and only job is to protect Trump at all costs.

When you take a job as Trump’s buttboy you always need to check with him first before doing anything.

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lawhawk  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:10:32am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:10:53am

Uh, Mr. Sagal, have you seen who is President?

Granted, Trump mostly made his money by grifting it from others.

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Belafon  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:12:47am

re: #236 Anymouse 🌹

Uh, Mr. Sagal, have you seen who is President?

Granted, Trump mostly made his money by grifting it from others.

Yeah, Trump skipped the “being good at making money” part.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:14:03am

Mueller testimony is one week from today, yes?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:14:05am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:14:36am

re: #237 Belafon

Yeah, Trump skiped the “being good at making money” part.

It has been pointed out that if he had simply invested his inheritance money in a stock market fund, then he would be worth more than he is today, but he would not have the notoriety and media presence to run a presidential campaign based almost entirely on his own image.

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wrenchwench  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:17:05am

re: #236 Anymouse 🌹

Uh, Mr. Sagal, have you seen who is President?

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Granted, Trump mostly made his money by grifting it from others.

I think ‘Chief of sarcasm’ is one of Mr. Sagal’s job titles.

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calochortus  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:17:25am

re: #236 Anymouse 🌹

Uh, Mr. Sagal, have you seen who is President?

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Granted, Trump mostly made his money by grifting it from others.

That’s sarcasm.

edit: I type too slowly.

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MsJ  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:19:10am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:21:55am

re: #243 MsJ

The word subpoena more or less means “under penalty”, i.e. you have to do this shit or there WILL BE CONSEQUENCES.

But in this case, Barr and McGahn have gotten off scot free, so where’s the impetus for these other folks to even show up? I guarantee you Jared ain’t going.

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MsJ  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:21:55am
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Old Liberal  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:22:02am

re: #205 DangerMan

she needs to make the case to the people of kentucky, ‘you keep voting for him, how exactly has he helped you’?

A few days ago there was an article about the $40 billion (I think) in pork he brought home. Just divide that bundle by household and ask “how much did you get?” They got squat. Who got that money??????

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wrenchwench  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:22:37am

re: #242 calochortus

That’s sarcasm.

edit: I type too slowly.

I should have capitalized it, as part of a job title. My dad used to call himself ‘the world’s fastest, least-accurate typist.’ All I got was his accuracy.

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sagehen  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:22:38am

re: #224 MsJ

When trump loses Fox he’s done. Sure, Breitbart and the loudest raving lunatic voices will still be there but Fox is THE propaganda outlet.

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Shepard Smith has always been out of step with the rest of the channel. His views are in no way indicative of the channel’s leaning.

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DangerMan  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:25:15am

re: #246 Old Liberal

A few days ago there was an article about the $40 billion (I think) in pork he brought home. Just divide that bundle by household and ask “how much did you get?” They got squat. Who got that money??????

ding!

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sagehen  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:27:26am

re: #228 Hecuba’s daughter

At the reform synagogue Saturday morning service I attended, we recited a prayer that included the following passages:

OMG!! That was my haftorah!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:28:07am

re: #226 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Under which Republican god do they think we should be, Cthulhu or Mammon?

Vote Cthulhu, never choose the lesser evil.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:29:21am

re: #236 Anymouse 🌹

Uh, Mr. Sagal, have you seen who is President?

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Granted, Trump mostly made his money by grifting it from others.

Snark :$

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HappyWarrior  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:29:46am

re: #248 sagehen

Shepard Smith has always been out of step with the rest of the channel. His views are in no way indicative of the channel’s leaning.

Not even his views. Shep isn’t an ugly person.

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MsJ  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:30:09am

re: #248 sagehen

Shepard Smith has always been out of step with the rest of the channel. His views are in no way indicative of the channel’s leaning.

I agree with that. But what Shep did there is significant, IMHO. Real time fact checking?

Their racist, homophobic, asshole night people will continue to do whatever, but any cracks that show up, completely work for me.

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sagehen  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:31:12am

re: #235 lawhawk

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They can’t read it; then they would be forced to notice the parts they’re so desperate not to notice.

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Belafon  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:31:24am

re: #251 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Vote Cthulhu, never choose the lesser evil.

I’m not sure between Mammon and Cthulhu which is the greater evil.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:32:19am

re: #246 Old Liberal

A few days ago there was an article about the $40 billion (I think) in pork he brought home. Just divide that bundle by household and ask “how much did you get?” They got squat. Who got that money??????

Friends and Family of Mitch Mcconnell.

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Belafon  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:44:34am

Unlike father:

A video of a man calling police to report a black man he suspected of trespassing has spread across social media, becoming the latest in a series of viral recordings showing black people being subjected to 911 calls for seemingly trivial or nonexistent offenses.

The incident was filmed and posted July 4 by software engineer Wesley Michel, and appears to take place at the entrance of a condo building on Van Ness Avenue, where Michel was waiting to visit with a friend. In the video, another man, accompanied by his young son, confronts Michel for his credentials to enter the building, and then calls police to report the “trespasser,” over the boy’s protestations.

As the altercation escalates, the man’s son appears increasingly distressed, pleading with his father to “just go.”

“Daddy, please don’t,” the young boy says, through sobs. “It’s the better. I agree with him, let’s go. Daddy I don’t like this, let’s go.”

Eventually, Michel’s friend arrives, and the 911 caller walks away from the building, telling police that the incident appears to resolved. The video ends mid-sentence as the two men continue to argue.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:48:38am

re: #75 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Mexican alligator lizard. Endangered species.

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Beautiful creature

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wrenchwench  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:49:27am

re: #258 Belafon

Unlike father:

It’s harder to keep the kids ‘carefully taught’ when they have access to the wider world at a younger and younger age.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:49:28am

The bots are everywhere spreading the story that Trump banned Epstein from Mar-A-Lago. (In private tags so LGF doesn’t get spidered into spreading this crap)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:49:46am

re: #259 Eventual Carrion

Beautiful creature

living turquoise jewelry

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DangerMan  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:49:53am

re: #258 Belafon

Unlike father:

under no circumstances was this a ‘911 emergency’

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:51:04am

re: #263 DangerMan

under no circumstances was this a ‘911 emergency’

Yep, it was Stand Your Ground, he should’ve just shot first and then explained later that he felt “threatened”.

/

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HappyWarrior  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:52:14am

re: #261 The Pie Overlord!

The bots are everywhere spreading the story that Trump banned Epstein from Mar-A-Lago. (In private tags so LGF doesn’t get spidered into spreading this crap)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:54:42am

re: #261 The Pie Overlord!

The bots are everywhere spreading the story that Trump banned Epstein from Mar-A-Lago.

They are pre-emptively distancing him because as more and more comes out, Trump is likely to be implicated by association

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:55:58am

re: #246 Old Liberal

A few days ago there was an article about the $40 billion (I think) in pork he brought home. Just divide that bundle by household and ask “how much did you get?” They got squat. Who got that money??????

Russians who own aluminum assets

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 9, 2019 • 9:58:21am

re: #235 lawhawk

Typical political decision to be seen as incompetent rather than criminal.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:00:08am
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jaunte  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:01:30am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:03:07am

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

JUST IN: British Foreign Sec. Hunt, who is running to succeed PM May as prime minister, responds to Pres. Trump:

“these comments are disrespectful and wrong to our Prime Minister and my country. Your diplomats give their private opinions to Sec. Pompeo and so do ours!”

They are not putting up with this shit or making excuses, unlike most of the American media.

Trump is really that fucking thin-skinned that he takes umbrage at private opinions from a leaked document, as if he expects the entire world to speak of him only in hushed, reverent tones.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:06:02am

re: #270 jaunte

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he is completely delusional

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lawhawk  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:06:06am

re: #261 The Pie Overlord!

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jaunte  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:06:11am

re: #271 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump is really that fucking thin-skinned

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lawhawk  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:07:31am

re: #274 jaunte

1A for me, not for thee.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:07:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:08:19am
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lawhawk  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:09:41am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:10:12am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:11:26am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:11:54am

moron

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:13:05am

America has the world’s most expensive healthcare, this is true, but nonetheless ACA did a lot to make it more affordable.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:13:49am
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Charles Johnson  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:14:48am
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William Lewis  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:15:20am

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

Twit needs to STFU and just go home. We don’t need him and we sure as fuck don’t want him.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:15:34am

Trump can’t even coordinate with the trolls who are spreading the “banned from Mar-A-Lago” bullshit.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:16:25am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:18:19am

re: #286 The Pie Overlord!

Trump can’t even coordinate with the trolls who are spreading the “banned from Mar-A-Lago” bullshit.

President Trump defends his embattled Labor secretary over Epstein case; asserts he had a “falling out” with Epstein a number of years ago, but won’t explain what triggered the falling out.

The goods Epstein had delivered were past their sell-by date…

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:18:52am

re: #282 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

America has the world’s most expensive healthcare, this is true, but nonetheless ACA did a lot to make it more affordable.

What it really did was make it more accessible. Before the ACA I couldn’t buy health insurance on the individual market at any price.

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:19:18am

re: #283 goddamnedfrank

We’re going to have an EXPLOSION

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:20:48am

re: #288 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The goods Epstein had delivered were past their sell-by date…

IIRC, it was because Epstein went first.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:20:54am

re: #289 goddamnedfrank

What it really did was make it more accessible. Before the ACA I couldn’t buy health insurance on the individual market at any price.

A long time ago, (back in the 80’s), I had a $50 per month plan with a $5,000 deductible.

That was not health insurance, that was anti-bankruptcy insurance in the event I got hit by a truck or fell off a cliff somewhere.

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William Lewis  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:22:05am

re: #289 goddamnedfrank

What it really did was make it more accessible. Before the ACA I couldn’t buy health insurance on the individual market at any price.

Even with ACA, the GOP in Wisconsin ensured that i still could not afford insurance that didn’t have insanely high deductibles. My VA medical care more than makes up for it.

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wrenchwench  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:22:56am

re: #287 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I think they need to increase the pay rate for young Marines in Southern California so they won’t be so easy to recruit by the cartels in charge of that border.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:23:09am

re: #293 William Lewis

Even with ACA, the GOP in Wisconsin ensured that i still could not afford insurance that didn’t have insanely high deductibles. My VA medical care more than makes up for it.

By not expanding medicare?

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Belafon  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:27:24am

re: #283 goddamnedfrank

It’s just another baby shower.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:31:49am
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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:42:32am

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:43:11am

re: #226 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Under which Republican god do they think we should be, Cthulhu or Mammon?

Ayn Rand.

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Old Liberal  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:54:22am

re: #221 Belafon

The concept of slavery defined in the laws in the Bibile didn’t take into account race.

But youre: #289 goddamnedfrank

What it really did was make it more accessible. Before the ACA I couldn’t buy health insurance on the individual market at any price.

Same here. Pre-existing condition.

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sagehen  Jul 9, 2019 • 10:57:56am

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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If he, or any of his party, had any ideas for “something far better” to replace it… they’d have said so by now. They’ve had 9 years.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 9, 2019 • 11:10:08am

re: #280 The Pie Overlord!

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He always feels badly for the wrong people. Always.


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