A Powerful New Jam From Fantastic Negrito: “The Suit That Won’t Come Off” Feat. Blind Dancer Odil Gerfaut

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VIDEO CREDITS:
Director: Freddy Macdonald
Producer: Fred Macdonald
Cinematographer: Sebastian Klinger
Editor: Freddy Macdonald
Production Company: Macdonald Entertainment Partners
Dancer: Odil Gerfaut
Choreographer: Angele Carole Chappuis

Special Thanks: Alessandro Bosshard, Li Tavor, Matthew van der Ploeg, and Ani Vihervaara, Curators of the Swiss Pavilion 2018 at the Venice Biennale, a project commissioned by the Swiss Arts Council Pro Helvetia

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1
Belafon  Jul 10, 2019 • 8:32:14pm

Copying this over:

6-Year-Old Humanitarian Brings Hope to Refugee Kids Across the World

This six year old has visited refugee camps. I couldn’t find a link to the story on WFAA that’s an update to this one, but she raised the $50,000 in order to open a school for refugee kids in a camp in Greece, considered the worst camp in the world.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 10, 2019 • 8:46:46pm
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Belafon  Jul 10, 2019 • 8:48:11pm

re: #2 Dread Pirate

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Bill spins so fast it just looks stationary to the human eye.

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gocart mozart  Jul 10, 2019 • 8:53:18pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2019 • 8:53:20pm

No systemic rot, no sir!

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BigPapa  Jul 10, 2019 • 8:54:10pm

I’ll show myself out now

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 10, 2019 • 8:59:35pm

From two threads ago:

re: #254 Blind Frog Belly White

“Hey, but this industry is different! We work hard, we play hard! Women in this industry are tough! They love the banter!”

According to some folks who did Sexual Harassment training at a place i worked, EVERY industry says this.

When I rose in rank in the Navy where I was put in charge of things, I would get the same. They would get the same answer from me geared toward a military job: If you don’t know where the line is, you’d better find out and stay far away from it. Fraternization is a UCMJ offence, and I won’t have some of my sailors mistreated under my watch.

The key word there was “sailor.” The Navy doesn’t see “female sailors” and “male sailors” (though for much of my time women were restricted from some jobs), they see “sailors.”

During my time in Spain, one man (my night shift supervisor) crossed that line (fraternization). When the woman came to me to complain, he was on report by the end of the day and removed from his position. When the division officer got that, he added the offences of disobeying a lawful order and adultery. Dude was out of the Navy (and his wife left him) not too long afterward.

My rating was one that was majority-women because it was a non-combat rating. (The same rating my mother was when she was in the Navy, fancy that.)

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gocart mozart  Jul 10, 2019 • 9:02:20pm
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Dread Pirate  Jul 10, 2019 • 9:13:12pm

The best people.

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Teukka  Jul 10, 2019 • 9:18:17pm

Humor sanity break:

Furry Nopes, Grizlords, & Murder Carpets

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MsJ  Jul 10, 2019 • 9:19:43pm

From downstairs. About Epstein.

re: #72 Hecuba’s daughter

So Epstein’s wealth is due to
1. Facilitating money laundering
or
2. Running a global human trafficking ring
or
3. Maybe running a Madoff style scam?

Blackmailing very wealthy people. VERY wealthy people.

Then laundering it through his fake hedge fund.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 10, 2019 • 9:26:41pm

*sigh*

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 10, 2019 • 9:33:49pm

re: #3 Belafon

You can’t explain that.

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MsJ  Jul 10, 2019 • 9:34:45pm

re: #12 Dread Pirate

She did a 180 a couple of hours after that.

Not a good look. At all.

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BigPapa  Jul 10, 2019 • 9:45:58pm

re: #14 MsJ

She did a 180 a couple of hours after that.

Not a good look. At all.

If she twists any more it’s beyond a Flip Flop and it becomes McTwist

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 10, 2019 • 9:47:01pm

re: #14 MsJ

She did a 180 a couple of hours after that.

Not a good look. At all.

She’s learning — she just started her campaign. In a world where 10’s of millions of Americans voted for a pathological liar — let’s give her a chance to find her way. We all make mistakes; let’s not treat this one unforced error at the beginning of the campaign as a sign of doom.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 10, 2019 • 9:47:34pm

re: #15 BigPapa

If she twists any more it’s beyond a Flip Flop and it becomes McTwist

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2019 • 9:47:50pm

re: #15 BigPapa

If she twists any more it’s beyond a Flip Flop and it becomes McTwist

1440 McTwist Switch Mute Grab.

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BigPapa  Jul 10, 2019 • 9:52:02pm

Saw a thought today: McGrath needs to go after Turtle hard as he’s not really well liked. Going after Trump would be a mistake. I think that makes sense.

Take out the Turtle.

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BigPapa  Jul 10, 2019 • 9:53:08pm

re: #18 teleskiguy

1440 McTwist Switch Mute Grab.

I was thinking of that damn skateboard arcade game 25 years ago and trying to remember the names of the moves.

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2019 • 9:55:13pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 10, 2019 • 9:55:26pm

re: #20 BigPapa

Skate or Die. lol

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Belafon  Jul 10, 2019 • 9:55:45pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 10, 2019 • 10:01:52pm

re: #12 Dread Pirate

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*sigh*

She goofed, but running for a federal office as a Democrat in Kentucky is damn tricky. Other than John Yarmuth in Louisville, its been a decade since a Democrat has successfully pulled it off.

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2019 • 10:04:22pm

re: #20 BigPapa

I was thinking of that damn skateboard arcade game 25 years ago and trying to remember the names of the moves.

I was throwing together *skiing* aerials, like you see at the X-Games.

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2019 • 10:11:12pm

re: #22 GlutenFreeJesus

Skate or Die. lol

Dude! I loved that game! Skating Joust in the pool!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 10, 2019 • 10:13:58pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 10, 2019 • 10:24:03pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 10, 2019 • 10:24:27pm

nhc.noaa.gov

Potential Tropical Cyclone 2 update.

Mark Taylor’s an idiot. If liberals could control hurricanes, why wouldn’t we smite Georgia since they’re the ones which passed the bill?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 10, 2019 • 10:32:56pm
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BigPapa  Jul 10, 2019 • 10:34:16pm
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DodgerFan1988  Jul 10, 2019 • 10:34:29pm

Speaking of not deserving equal pay, why the f*ck does this clown gets paid for talking like an annoying, 7th grade smart aleck?

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 10, 2019 • 10:39:29pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 10, 2019 • 10:40:13pm

Flash flood prediction map for Potential Tropical Cyclone Two.

wpc.ncep.noaa.gov

Area under threat stretches from Oklahoma to Maine, including all of Appalachia and much of Ohio, Ontario, and Québec.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 10, 2019 • 10:44:03pm

Another entry in “facts have a liberal bias.”

Conservatives simply do not want to hear facts. They mess up their religion.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 10, 2019 • 10:57:41pm

re: #31 BigPapa

That was a good story to read with the von Trapp family singing in the background.

Click to Reveal

YouTube

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2019 • 11:03:44pm

re: #33 goddamnedfrank

Classic case.

And my father - a 40+year veteran of education - doesn’t have 500 books in his house. A few hundred, sure, maybe, but he’s always giving books away. And more books come in… it’s a cycle, I’ve noticed, with those all in with pedagogy.

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2019 • 11:09:34pm

In 2016 my father gave his entire paperback SciFi collection to the local high school. I remember that collection being, probably, 500 books, or more.

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ckkatz  Jul 10, 2019 • 11:12:00pm

re: #31 BigPapa

Wasn’t Shane Morris the guy who wrote about ripping off a Mexican Drug lord?

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teleskiguy  Jul 10, 2019 • 11:12:51pm

I’m probably exaggerating the numbers, I don’t know. But there was a whole room-full. My father kind of made me read the Hitchhiker’s Guide series.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 10, 2019 • 11:13:29pm

So about 200 cities in the U.S. have a median home value of $1,000,000????

Yikes!! Probably includes many smaller satellite towns of upscale metropolitan areas.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 10, 2019 • 11:18:18pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 10, 2019 • 11:26:00pm

Can we deport this guy from my state?

Christian pastor makes out with the flag during hour-long prayer rant (Goes to Deadstate)

A common adage in American politics, sometimes attributed (though wrongly so) to author Sinclair Lewis, is that, “When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” Pastor Hank Kunneman’s preachings seem close to matching that sentiment, although in his latest tirade, during an Independence Day prayer event he hosted, it was he who was wrapped around the American flag, and not the opposite.

In a Facebook post he made prior to Independence Day, Kunneman, who heads One Voice Ministries out of Omaha, Nebraska, urged his followers to tune into his program to “pray for the United States of America” on the country’s birthday.

“We are in a new era in the earth and in the United States of America. We’ve got a specific word that the Lord has spoken about this July 4th being such a prophetic moment here in the United States,” Kunneman said.

He asked his viewers to listen to his program, which aired the day before Independence Day. His performance was “spirited” to say the least, highly animated, and claimed that God blessed the United States specifically on July 4th.

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“New York City, the reason why — 9/11, our nation was pierced, this nation has never been the same, the nations of the earth have never been the same, God is trying to re-establish a blood right,” Kunneman said in January 2018. “It’s no coincidence the president is from New York, that is where the towers fell. He also is part of Trump Tower — the towers fell. He is part of world trade — the World Trade Center. God is revisiting this nation to establish a blood right. Whoever gets the blood right gets the legal right to rule.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 10, 2019 • 11:31:08pm

(video, 0:40 of enforced patriotism over a lie about the flag)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 10, 2019 • 11:38:45pm

Republicans love the poorly educated entry:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 10, 2019 • 11:47:45pm

re: #41 Hecuba’s daughter

California is home to the most million-dollar real estate markets; it has 111 currently, and is expected to add 14 more cities over the next year.

Note over half are in California.

That’s because the coast is covered with small incorporated areas.

I can look at San Diego county and count several. While the city of San Diego itself will not get over $1M (we’re assuming here single family dwellings and not other structures), because the eastern part of the city has very many houses of only say $700k price tags, the coast can be read off south to north: Coronado, La Jolla (if the statistician wants to count it separate from the city of San Diego, though it is part of the city), Del Mar, Solana Beach, Cardiff, Encinitas, Carlsbad. (Oceanside probably is not over $1M because of the the huge military contingent.) And of course Rancho Santa Fe, inland neighbor of Encinitas and the home of mammondom on Earth. So there’s 8 of your 200 right there. And I could keep going north county by county.

This is down to that good old American value - capitalism.

People want to live by the ocean, and not just here in California.

So while there are many communities with median house prices over $1M, that is sort of skewed by the fact that most of them are small in population and sit on the prime real estate on this planet.

Anyway, this is why when I watch My Lottery Dream Home I do so sort of nonplussed at the big deal people make over winning a million dollars. Doing so just wouldn’t go far around here. (Not that I would mind winning a $1M, but doing so wouldn’t buy me a house I’d want to live in around here.)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 10, 2019 • 11:51:36pm

re: #41 Hecuba’s daughter

Also from your link:

The private market is clearly failing.

On the contrary, the private market is working spectacularly, doing exactly what it is supposed to do: pricing demand.

Housing prices are so high around here because millions of people want to live here.

High demand, high prices.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 11, 2019 • 12:00:04am

re: #46 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
[clip]

Anyway, this is why when I watch Your Lottery Dream Home I do so sort of nonplussed at the big deal people make over winning a million dollars. Doing so just wouldn’t go far around here. (Not that I would mind winning a $1M, but doing so wouldn’t buy me a house I’d want to live in around here.)

Well, if you want your million dollar home in California, it probably wouldn’t do much.

A million dollars would buy a helluva lotta home here. Plus, we have a four hundred mile beach. (No ocean, but you can’t have everything.)

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 11, 2019 • 12:03:55am

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹

[clip]
Anyway, this is why when I watch Your Lottery Dream Home I do so sort of nonplussed at the big deal people make over winning a million dollars. Doing so just wouldn’t go far around here. (Not that I would mind winning a $1M, but doing so wouldn’t buy me a house I’d want to live in around here.)

Well, if you want your million dollar home in California, it probably wouldn’t do much.

A million dollars would buy a helluva lotta home here. Plus, we have a four hundred mile beach. (No ocean, but you can’t have everything.)

Of course, you do need a lot more than $1M to support a million dollar home — annual property taxes, utilities, home maintenance, etc. will require significant additional wealth to retain the property.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 11, 2019 • 12:08:53am

(with video, 2:19)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 11, 2019 • 12:21:57am

re: #49 Hecuba’s daughter

Of course, you do need a lot more than $1M to support a million dollar home — annual property taxes, utilities, home maintenance, etc. will require significant additional wealth to retain the property.

Exactly.

One needs a retirement nest egg, other than the house, of roughly the same value of the house, to provide the income needed not just for taxes (which are low here in California) but also maintenance and other expenses.

So if you have a million dollar house, you also need a million dollar retirement fund (or equivalent.)

And that is one of the problems not touched upon in the NYT article.

Since many people are house poor in the high priced areas, meaning nearly all their assets are in the property, in the long run neighborhoods cannot be maintained without flipping houses to new folk. And the local communities can’t raise taxes much either.

Which means there is a real problem beyond just the fact that so many poor people can’t afford a place to live.

In effect, entire communities can’t continue in the long run, as in a century.

But in this country we don’t do long term thinking, so no one cares about that.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 11, 2019 • 2:21:41am

Looks like there’s a power plant on fire north of Moscow.

(via Google Translate):

Rescuers are checking information about the fifty-meter fire in the Moscow region, the regional emergency department headquarters reported. “A message was received from an eyewitness about a 50-meter-high torch near the 90th kilometer of the Moscow Ring Road near Mytishchi,” the source said. Firefighters left for the place.

At first, the emergency services said that the gas station was on fire. Later, the Emergencies Ministry said that the fire occurred at a high-pressure station in the Northern Thermal Power Plant.

According to preliminary data, no victims. Aviation is being prepared to extinguish, and a fire train also went to the scene.

3news.ru

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 11, 2019 • 2:40:57am

Hindemith: Violin Sonatas

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 11, 2019 • 2:49:07am

Programming note: the link button for the comment compose box is not working for me.

Guy Who Says God Sends Natural Disasters to Punish Gays Has His Home Destroyed in a Natural Disaster (Deadstate)

Not satisfied with cherrypicking the Bible, Christians also cherrypick what they say themselves.

Tony Perkins, president of the anti-gay religious lobbying group the Family Research Council, had his home destroyed by the massive flooding ravaging Southern Louisiana this week.

Although no one wants to celebrate a person losing their home, the destruction of Perkins’ house isn’t without irony, considering that he’s claimed in the past that natural disasters are God’s way of punishing an increasingly gay-friendly world.

Calling into his own radio show, Perkins described the flood as being of “biblical proportions,” adding that he and his family will have to live in a camper for 6 months until the damage is repaired.

But Perkins was careful to point out that this particular flood wasn’t because of the gays, but rather an “incredible, encouraging spiritual exercise to take you to the next level in your walk with an almighty and gracious God who does all things well.”

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Yup, God does all things well. Floods, hurricanes, children’s cancer, epidemics, &c.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jul 11, 2019 • 2:55:00am

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹

That was three years ago.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 11, 2019 • 3:00:10am

re: #55 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

That was three years ago.

Thanks. I missed the date, referring instead to the article being at the top of Deadstate. I presumed it was recent.

That said, if he built his new home in the same place, with the floods coming down the Mississippi and Potential Tropical Cyclone Two making its way toward Louisiana, he might be replacing another home.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 11, 2019 • 3:15:00am

Andrew Yang, currently one of the “also rans” in the Democratic race for President, spoke to the idea atheists can’t be moral or decent people by saying that was ridiculous.

(video, 1:00)
reddit.com

That said, such a position against our minority group leaves a big bat to bash him with. The overwhelming majority of Christians in the USA according to Pew Research (regardless of whether right or left-leaning) consistently feel a person cannot be moral without a god. Moreover, they consistently list us as less trustworthy than rapists or paedophiles.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 11, 2019 • 3:32:42am

re: #33 goddamnedfrank

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Yeesh that’s bad lol. But I do remember when Obama had a couple policy czars- I hate the term but Beck or one of the nuts was saying it was proof of communism. I didn’t have an official concentration but I’ve taken a few history classes where the Romanov empire is a major player, that kind of ignorance hurts. Then again FNC just last night said that Ilan
Omar would be a Klan member because the Klan supports immigration and refugees and is socially liberal. I really think most conservatives think that something is communist or leftist just because they don’t like it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 11, 2019 • 3:36:54am

On the issue of disliking atheists not being a left-right thing, Mother Jones did an article about subjects and people Republicans and Democrats liked or disliked.

motherjones.com (March, 2018)

In their chart (a modified Nolan chart), amongst Republicans we rated lower than things like Congress or Mitch McConnell (both of which are in negative territory for Republicans).

Amongst Democrats, we rate lower than Wal*Mart or the United Nations.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 11, 2019 • 3:41:12am

re: #58 HappyWarrior

I’m sure the Ku Klux Klan would welcome with [checks notes] a Muslim woman.

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Ming5000  Jul 11, 2019 • 3:44:49am

VOA has a good summary of the Epstein status.

Labor Secretary Defends His 2008 Plea Deal With Billionaire Sex Offender

Epstein’s bail hearing is scheduled for today.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 11, 2019 • 3:48:44am

re: #61 Ming5000

I hope that bail hearing is “remand, impound his passport.”

Epstein has access to a ton of money and means to flee.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 11, 2019 • 4:01:21am

re: #62 Anymouse 🌹

I hope that bail hearing is “remand, impound his passport.”

Epstein has access to a ton of money and means to flee.

Exactly. But, it’s not like Epstein could pull a Frank Matthews* and simply vanish off the face of the planet, as Epstein probably has no idea had to live off the grid. Even if fled the country, he’d be found in short order.

*Matthews was a pretty damn brilliant criminal - and even with that having been said, there’s no reason to believe that Frank Matthews is still alive.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 11, 2019 • 4:01:59am

re: #62 Anymouse 🌹

And, apparently people who would help him. Every single asset this shit owns needs liquidated and a fund set up for victims of sex traffickers. New Friends, New Life out of Dallas TX is a group helping women and girls find lives after trafficking. Money from these rich sacks of shit could help form more groups doing this work. We also need a LOT more support for male victims and survivors who face challenges of their own. It’s not enough to get the traffickers out of business and into prison, there must be resources for victims to become survivors. In a country where rape is seen mostly as the victims fault, it’s the least we could do.

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jeffreyw  Jul 11, 2019 • 4:10:38am

Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 11, 2019 • 4:16:53am

Bay View, Michigan (founded as a United Methodist-only town, which once had a “no blacks” requirement), has entered into a consent decree with the Federal government to end its requirement that people wanting to move to the town were required to be United Methodists.

(The UMC is one of those so-called liberal denominations.)

friendlyatheist.patheos.com

They tried to backdoor their ordinances to repeal the overt ban on any other faith than United Methodists by trying to make prospective residents aware by word-of-mouth they would not be welcome.

The consent decree admits no fault from Bay View (though the no-fault agreement meant they had to pay $75,000 attorney fees to the plaintiffs because they’re not guilty of religious discrimination, no sir). The federal government will monitor the Bay View board for five years to ensure they remain within the consent decree’s strictures.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 11, 2019 • 4:27:12am

Ex-EDL leader - and fraudster - Tommy Robinson (real name Stephen Yaxley-Lennon) is going to the slammer for nine months.

Good. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

bbc.com

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jul 11, 2019 • 4:46:38am

re: #67 Dr Lizardo

That smuck is currently begging Trumpy for political asylum. (dammit, there goes another irony meter)

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 11, 2019 • 4:51:53am

re: #68 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

That smuck is currently begging Trumpy for political asylum. (dammit, there goes another irony meter)

Yeah, I read that the other day. He tried entering the US on a friend’s passport - needless to say, that didn’t work and IIRC, he’s now pretty much permanently forbidden from coming to the USA.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 11, 2019 • 4:54:49am

re: #68 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

That smuck is currently begging Trumpy for political asylum. (dammit, there goes another irony meter)

OFFS.

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 5:01:57am

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹

Andrew Yang, currently one of the “also rans” in the Democratic race for President, spoke to the idea atheists can’t be moral or decent people by saying that was ridiculous.

(video, 1:00)
reddit.com

That said, such a position against our minority group leaves a big bat to bash him with. The overwhelming majority of Christians in the USA according to Pew Research (regardless of whether right or left-leaning) consistently feel a person cannot be moral without a god. Moreover, they consistently list us as less trustworthy than rapists or paedophiles.

They can “feel” what they want

Truth is we are moral without a god
Every day
We don’t rape
We dont target kids
There are millions of us and we’re not arrested or in jail or committing crimes

We’re just like everybody else and you can’t tell by looking who’s who

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 11, 2019 • 5:02:51am

Majorities of U.S. veterans, public say the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were not worth fighting (Pew Research)

A majority of veterans line up almost precisely with the general populace in the opinion the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were not worth fighting.

Amongst veterans, the difference between those who fought in those wars and those who did not are insignificant.

Amongst those who identify as Republicans versus Democrats, Republicans were much more likely to support the wars, but still upside-down in the polling.

Amongst veterans, there was no difference in opinions between rank or combat experience.

There were similar opinions about intervention in Syria.

Views do differ significantly by party, however. Republican and Republican-leaning veterans are much more likely than veterans who identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party to say the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were worth fighting: 45% of Republican veterans vs. 15% of Democratic veterans say the war in Iraq was worth fighting, while 46% of Republican veterans and 26% of Democratic veterans say the same about Afghanistan. The party gaps are nearly identical among the public.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 11, 2019 • 5:06:54am

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹

Majorities of U.S. veterans, public say the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were not worth fighting (Pew Research)
…

Some of us said it then, in Lafayette Park, for all the good it did.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 11, 2019 • 5:07:09am

Looks like the Germans aren’t fucking around with the Identitarian Movement anymore.

Germany’s domestic intelligence agency (BfV) classified the Identitarian Movement as an extreme right-wing group on Thursday, a sign that authorities are increasingly worried about radicals with anti-Islamic and racist views.

The murder last month of a prominent regional politician by a suspected neo-Nazi shook Germans and prompted the interior minister to warn that right-wing extremism was a threat to Germany’s democratic system.

The Identitarian Movement has not been directly linked to the killing, but the intelligence agency said the group discriminated against non-Europeans and Muslims and as such was incompatible with the constitution.

The official classification makes it easier for the agency to monitor the group’s activities and members - of which it says there are 600 in Germany. The movement, with French roots, has been under scrutiny for about three years.

reuters.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 11, 2019 • 5:08:31am

re: #73 Decatur Deb

Some of us said it then, in Lafayette Park, for all the good it did.

Yup. Protesting the war in Iraq got people branded as traitors by Geo. W. Bush (if you’re not with us, you’re against us).

I did not protest though I opposed it. I was too busy looking for food.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 5:15:43am

re: #46 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So while there are many communities with median house prices over $1M, that is sort of skewed by the fact that most of them are small in population and sit on the prime real estate on this planet.

Sedona, Arizona; breathtaking red rock scenery on the edge of the Colorado Plateau and nearly perfect climate.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 11, 2019 • 5:16:04am

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹

Yup. Protesting the war in Iraq got people branded as traitors by Geo. W. Bush (if you’re not with us, you’re against us).

I did not protest though I opposed it. I was too busy looking for food.

I was on TDY at the Pentagon. Wife came up by Greyhound for the weekend.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 5:17:34am

re: #74 Dr Lizardo

Looks like the Germans aren’t fucking around with the Identitarian Movement anymore.

reuters.com

The Right-wing AfD party has officially distanced itself from the Identitarians, but has unofficially supported them and some of their ministers have hired IDs as office staff.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 11, 2019 • 5:21:13am
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Mike Lamb  Jul 11, 2019 • 5:27:30am

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹

Another entry in “facts have a liberal bias.”

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Conservatives simply do not want to hear facts. They mess up their religion.

Not sure you are reading that exchange correctly.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 11, 2019 • 5:31:52am

Ouch

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 11, 2019 • 5:32:26am

re: #80 Mike Lamb

Not sure you are reading that exchange correctly.

Maybe not. I have trouble following along sometimes on Twitter threads.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 11, 2019 • 5:32:38am

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Right-wing AfD party has officially distanced itself from the Identitarians, but has unofficially supported them and some of their ministers have hired IDs as office staff.

I read earlier that a split seems to be forming in the AfD. Apparently, a personality cult seems to have formed around Björn Höcke, the AfD leader for Thuringia - and other AfD members don’t like it one damn bit.

reuters.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 5:39:03am

re: #83 Dr Lizardo

I read earlier that a split seems to be forming in the AfD. Apparently, a personality cult seems to have formed around Björn Höcke, the AfD leader for Thuringia - and other AfD members don’t like it one damn bit.

reuters.com

The party was never stable to begin with: despite all its attempts to present itself as a “mainstream” party that represents the interests of economically anxious and politically alienated “concerned citizens”, it draws much of its support, energy and ideology from the rabidly racist & xenophobic right.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 11, 2019 • 5:44:53am

re: #84 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The party was never stable to begin with: despite all its attempts to present itself as a “mainstream” party that represents the interests of economically anxious and politically alienated “concerned citizens”, it draws much of its support, energy and ideology from the rabidly racist & xenophobic right.

If AfD fractures - which it probably will in the long run - then they’re finished, especially if they break apart into multiple competing factions, each chasing the same electorate.

I’d think they’re too extreme to be easily merged into one of the mainstream German political parties.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 11, 2019 • 5:59:41am

Well-regulated militia weighs in, Alabama regiment:

A woman was trying to shoot someone in a road rage incident, police say, but shot her husband instead (CNN)

She attempted to shoot another driver and shot her husband instead.

Erica Cole was arrested on charges of attempted murder, second-degree assault and reckless endangerment. Her bail has been set at $30,000, and she is being held at the Cullman County Detention Center.

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lawhawk  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:09:04am

re: #34 Anymouse 🌹

There’s two separate systems. One that’s hitting the Mid-Atlantic to Quebec today/tonight, and then there’s TS2 - aka Barry, which is likely to strengthen to a hurricane before coming ashore in Louisiana and it’s already causing damaging flooding across southern Louisiana.

Barry’s a crazy system - it’s the first time I can recall a TS forming this early and this far north in the Gulf that could become a hurricane. It’s also going to come ashore while the Mississippi is still well above normal flow rates, which means any storm surge or localized flooding is going to go even worse.

I fear for the disaster response.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:12:09am

re: #85 Dr Lizardo

If AfD fractures - which it probably will in the long run - then they’re finished, especially if they break apart into multiple competing factions, each chasing the same electorate.

I’d think they’re too extreme to be easily merged into one of the mainstream German political parties.

One thing that will lead to that is that no mainstream party wants to enter into a nationwide coalition with them. If they move to the center to facilitate that, they will lose their most hard-core supporters and their very reason for existence.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:19:04am

We got a inch of rain outside Austin last nite in about 1/2 hour. In and out. It was like the 1st band off that TD in the gulf. Warm rain from the north…… WTF?

In other news. Things are fraying…..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:19:10am

re: #87 lawhawk

I fear for the disaster response.

Plenty of time and warning on these disasters, any sign of people in motion?

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lawhawk  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:20:08am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The more we know about Trump or Epstein, the worse it gets. The rich and powerful are able to avoid the full consequences of their actions. For Epstein it was a sweetheart deal that got him spending less time in prison than some black person would get for a marijuana possession.

And yet Trump was elected knowing that he was a sex predator. That was his allure to his racist and misogynistic base. Will any new revelations re: Epstein affect Trump’s support? I doubt it. His base is immune to facts, logic, or the fact that Trump breaks the law daily.

We now apparently have video proof that Trump engaged in assault of a woman, not that his base cares. That’s on top of all the other criminal acts. The GOP continues to protect Trump, meaning that the scales of justice are firmly planted on keeping the GOP and Trump in power, regardless of how many crimes committed or how many people come forward corroborating what Trump said all those years ago in the Access Hollywood video - that he can grab women by the genitals with impunity.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:22:13am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:23:26am

re: #92 Dave In Austin

Honestly Rick. The “Old Republican Party” is going to need to completely rebrand. Conservative is not a word that’s used anymore. It’s lying on the side of Cletus’s dirt road driveway.

Unless Mrs Cletus already brought it home, skint it and threw it in the stew pot…

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lawhawk  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:23:40am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Louisiana has already declared a state of emergency, which gets state assets prepared, but it doesn’t look like FEMA is mobilizing. Trump hasn’t declared an emergency either.

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Belafon  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:23:51am

He’s a coward:

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:25:10am

re: #94 lawhawk

Louisiana has already declared a state of emergency, which gets state assets prepared, but it doesn’t look like FEMA is mobilizing. Trump hasn’t declared an emergency either.

He can’t. Too busy preparing for a “summit” with people like Charlie Kirk who are going to teach him some “dank memes” to use against his opponents on twitter.

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Belafon  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:28:39am

re: #95 Belafon

He’s a coward:

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Having quoted that, so far only four have committed to going, including Warren. She will be everywhere.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:40:32am

The Bro’s have their steely knives out for Markos

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:41:51am

Up early this morning!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:42:03am

re: #96 Barefoot Grin

He can’t. Too busy preparing for a “summit” with people like Charlie Kirk who are going to teach him some “dank memes” to use against his opponents on twitter.

Laura Loomer is outraged that she and Rage Furby weren’t invited. Imagine how bad you have to be to fall below Trump’s standards! SMOTI snagged an invite, however.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:44:00am

re: #99 The Pie Overlord!

Up early this morning!

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Ranting like a loon.

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lawhawk  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:45:42am

Institutional racism and bigotry.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:46:46am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:47:17am

re: #102 lawhawk

The Plain View Project found racist and sexist Facebook posts made by 97 Phoenix police officers. Of these officers

A whole orchard’s worth of bad apples…

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:47:23am

Brain bleach.
This is my favorite Israeli organization. Apart from the fact they saved Zedushka’s life on the flight to Israel 2 years ago, they are non-political and help everyone!

Here is an interview with one of their Palestinian medics:

Episode #154 - From Near Death To Saving Lives

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lawhawk  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:48:50am
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lawhawk  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:51:02am

re: #105 The Pie Overlord!

Muslim man saves kosher bakery in the Hamptons… now serves kosher/halal food.

The Beach Bakery & Grand Café, in Westhampton Beach, on Long Island, is a local institution. Since 1988, it has served black-and-whites, baguettes, pastries and challah from its bakery counter, and made custom wedding cakes for its community.

But there’s a reason for the challah, and a reason its restaurant only serves vegetarian and fish dishes: the Beach Bakery is certified kosher, the only such establishment in Long Island’s East End, a popular summer vacation spot. When the bakery and restaurant went up for sale last year, local residents worried that the new owner wouldn’t be interested in preserving its kosher certification.

Turns out the eventual buyer actually wanted to add a certification, Newsday reported: Rashid Sulehri, owner of two other local establishments, is Muslim, and says not only will the Beach Bakery stay kosher, but it will become halal, too, so devout Muslims can eat there.

“It’s a dream come true,” Sulehri said. “Sons of Abraham can sit under one roof and they get a chance to see how much in common they have instead of staying away from each other and just thinking how different they are from each other.”

Sulehri’s pledge is an example of “interfaith cooperation and coexistence,” said Rabbi Marc Schneier, leader of The Hampton Synagogue.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:53:51am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:54:37am

Almost too good!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:56:40am

re: #109 Barefoot Grin

Almost too good!

Police gonna lock him up in the incell

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Targetpractice  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:57:07am

re: #106 lawhawk

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Honestly, I totally expect to go through with it, then effectively dare the courts to do something about it.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 11, 2019 • 6:59:47am

re: #111 Targetpractice

Honestly, I totally expect to go through with it, then effectively dare the courts to do something about it.

And he’ll hope to get the impeachment that his strategists tell him he needs.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:01:39am

So here comes Katrina Part 2.

New Orleans gets flooded again as President Caligula has his ass kissed by every alt-right propagandist.

Just waiting for another “Heckuva job Brownie” moment which the liars in the Press will gloss over…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:03:51am

re: #108 Dave In Austin

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Reminds me of the LAPD Rampart Division scandal back in the 90s when tatted officers framed a whole bunch of people of color when they planted drugs on them…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:06:00am

And here we go with the ICE Raids starting on Sunday…

cnn.com

US Immigration and Customs Enforcement plans to begin raids across the country Sunday to arrest thousands of family members who already have court orders to be removed, according to a US official.

The effort comes weeks after President Donald Trump had tweeted ICE’s plans to conduct the raids, then delayed the operation after additional details became public.
The New York Times first reported on the raids, saying they are expected to take place in at least 10 cities, will occur “over multiple days” and will include “collateral” deportations in which “authorities might detain immigrants who happened to be on the scene, even though they were not targets of the raids.”

Get ready to call the ACLU folks!

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:06:17am

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹

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Well, if you want your million dollar home in California, it probably wouldn’t do much.

A million dollars would buy a helluva lotta home here. Plus, we have a four hundred mile beach. (No ocean, but you can’t have everything.)

Well, there was probably beach there a few hundred million years ago.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:06:56am

re: #50 Anymouse 🌹

Ah, more balls that women need to kick.

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Targetpractice  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:08:11am

re: #112 Decatur Deb

And he’ll hope to get the impeachment that his strategists tell him he needs.

Is this where we get another round of “Impeaching him is giving him what he wants, so let’s wait and hope Nancy has a plan!”?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:09:12am

re: #113 Joe Bacon 🌹

So here comes Katrina Part 2.

New Orleans gets flooded again as President Caligula has his ass kissed by every alt-right propagandist.

Just waiting for another “Heckuva job Brownie” moment which the liars in the Press will gloss over…

They will blame it on neglect during Obama administration

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Decatur Deb  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:12:03am

re: #118 Targetpractice

Is this where we get another round of “Impeaching him is giving him what he wants, so let’s wait and hope Nancy has a plan!”?

No, this is where we avoid a kamikaze attack.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:13:22am

re: #60 Anymouse 🌹

I’m sure the Ku Klux Klan would welcome with [checks notes] a Muslim woman.

Yep, the Klan always was welcoming and supportive of immigrants. NOT.

roadsideamerica.com

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Targetpractice  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:13:27am

re: #120 Decatur Deb

No, this is where we avoid a kamikaze attack.

The traditional means of dealing with a kamikaze was to blow it out of the sky, not to gamble that it would miss. Or that a hit wouldn’t be fatal.

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carey94tt  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:14:16am

This guy controlled F1 for about 50 years. WTF?

Ecclestone: I’d take a bullet for Vladimir Putin

“If someone had a machine gun and was prepared to shoot Putin, I would stand in front of him…” he said in a wide-ranging interview on politics and how he plans to spend his years in retirement. “Because he’s a good guy. He’s never done anything that isn’t doing good things for people.”

When asked what he thought about the high-profile assassination attempt on the Skripals in Salisbury last year, Ecclestone said: “[Putin] didn’t do that. He would be too busy to be worrying about that sort of thing. Storytellers make these things up.”

Ecclestone also reiterated comments he made in 2017 that the Russian’s power should extend to the entire continent of Europe.

“I would like him running Europe. We haven’t got anybody, so it couldn’t be any worse. He does what he says he is going to do… I am not a supporter of democracy. You need a dictator.

“As a dictator, you say, ‘This is what I’m going to do’. In a democracy, it gets watered down.”

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Dave In Austin  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:14:33am

re: #115 Joe Bacon 🌹

And here we go with the ICE Raids starting on Sunday…

cnn.com

US Immigration and Customs Enforcement plans to begin raids across the country Sunday to arrest thousands of family members who already have court orders to be removed, according to a US official.

The effort comes weeks after President Donald Trump had tweeted ICE’s plans to conduct the raids, then delayed the operation after additional details became public.
The New York Times first reported on the raids, saying they are expected to take place in at least 10 cities, will occur “over multiple days” and will include “collateral” deportations in which “authorities might detain immigrants who happened to be on the scene, even though they were not targets of the raids.”

Get ready to call the ACLU folks!

Rhetorical Question

If your family or friends were affected, Would you fight back? With weapons if need be?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:15:45am

re: #122 Targetpractice

The traditional means of dealing with a kamikaze was to blow it out of the sky, not to gamble that it would miss. Or that a hit wouldn’t be fatal.

I don’t think you see who’s getting in the cockpit, wearing a scarf of 1000 stitches.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:18:28am

Off to the PT to get my motion re-arranged.

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Belafon  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:19:28am

McConnell and the rest of the GOP wants that question on the Census as well.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:25:54am

I swear, if the President states his intention to defy the Supreme Court and Democratic leadership does nothing, I am going to flip my shit.

WHAT FUCKING MORE DO YOU NEED TO ACT?!?!?

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MsJ  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:26:30am

re: #36 Dread Pirate

That was a good story to read with the von Trapp family singing in the background.

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It was a good story. Until….

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Belafon  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:26:48am

re: #128 Eclectic Cyborg

I swear, if the President states his intention to defy the Supreme Court and Democratic leadership does nothing, I am going to flip my shit.

WHAT FUCKING MORE DO YOU NEED TO ACT?!?!?

A Senate that gives a shit.

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Belafon  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:28:00am

Why was Jackson able to get away with defying the courts?

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:28:24am

Listen to this Republican asshole screaming for 3 solid minutes over another representative (a woman of course!) trying to read a letter from a formerly homeless man.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:29:16am

re: #132 The Pie Overlord!

Heart pounding. Watch this male lawmaker scream over his female colleague for 3+ minutes while she tries to read a powerful letter written by a formerly homeless man begging them not to end public assistance. This *is* the GOP. Heartless. Angry. Abusive.

They call it “decisive” and “alpha”.

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Belafon  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:29:53am

Filing an executive order, though, will also end up in court.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:30:20am
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Targetpractice  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:31:42am

re: #134 Belafon

Filing an executive order, though, will also end up in court.

Where it will takes months to go anywhere before finally being squashed flat by a Bush/Trump appointee.

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Belafon  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:31:46am
U.S. Sens. Mark R. Warner and Tim Kaine (both D-VA) have joined Sen. Brian Schatz (D-HI) in cosponsoring legislation to protect the decennial census from partisan whims aimed at intimidating respondents and curbing participation. The Census Improving Data and Enhanced Accuracy (Census IDEA) Act will help safeguard the integrity of the 2020 census by ensuring that any proposed changes to the count are adequately studied and researched prior to being added to the questionnaire. This follows a United States Supreme Court decision on June 27 that blocked the Trump Administration from adding a citizenship question to the 2020 census, citing insufficient justification for adding the question.

“The census is a critical undertaking in our democracy that helps determine the number of representatives and federal dollars given to states. Additionally, many businesses rely on census population data to decide where to open new stores, buy advertising, or deploy wireless broadband infrastructure. Therefore, it’s extremely important that we ensure the accuracy of the count and prevent it from being shaped by political motives,” said the Senators. “This bill will ensure that any additional question be presented with enough time for Congress to review its effects and help keep the census an independent tool for the American people.”

bluevirginia.us

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:32:02am

re: #134 Belafon

Filing an executive order, though, will also end up in court.

The Census may already be printed with the question on it by then.

I’m telling you, this is their play. Just go ahead and put the question on there, then deal with the resulting shitstorm AFTER the forms are already sent out. It would be an epic clusterfuck.

But maybe that’s what they want so they can more easily manipulate the Census data without drawing attention to themselves.

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:35:53am

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Belafon  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:36:41am

re: #136 Targetpractice

Where it will takes months to go anywhere before finally being squashed flat by a Bush/Trump appointee.

If it keeps the question off of the census for a few more months, they won’t have time to print it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:36:59am

re: #132 The Pie Overlord!

Listen to this Republican asshole screaming for 3 solid minutes over another representative (a woman of course!) trying to read a letter from a formerly homeless man.

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Amen to the Lieutenant Governor who ignored that Nazi gasbag!

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lawhawk  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:38:04am

re: #139 DangerMan

And yet right wingers continue spewing nonsense about how the Epstein plea deal was ultimately on Obama’s plate when Obama was still a US Senator - not president. GWB was president at time this deal was made by Acosta.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:39:12am

re: #139 DangerMan

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I hear a lot of people saying it The Epstein scandal is all related to “Obama’s corrupt DOJ”…

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Targetpractice  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:39:21am

re: #140 Belafon

If it keeps the question off of the census for a few more months, they won’t have time to print it.

The man is making clear he’s prepared to blow through multiple injunctions in order to get that question on the census, why will another lawsuit stop him?

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lawhawk  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:40:12am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:41:04am

re: #140 Belafon

If it keeps the question off of the census for a few more months, they won’t have time to print it.

Unless they just go ahead and print it with the question anyway and deal with the ramifications later.

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Targetpractice  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:42:04am

re: #145 lawhawk

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“He’s so unpopular, there’s no way he can win!” is not a winning strategy. No more than it was in 2016. We cannot plan out the next 17 months on the assumption that he’s hit his ceiling.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:43:00am

re: #147 Targetpractice

“He’s so unpopular, there’s no way he can win!” is not a winning strategy. No more than it was in 2016. We cannot plan out the next 17 months on the assumption that he’s hit his ceiling.

And Russia is fully prepared to ratfuck us again.

This is VERY much an uphill battle, as much as it’s tempting to think otherwise.

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:45:52am

re: #128 Eclectic Cyborg

I swear, if the President states his intention to defy the Supreme Court and Democratic leadership does nothing, I am going to flip my shit.

WHAT FUCKING MORE DO YOU NEED TO ACT?!?!?

my guess is he signs some ‘order’
they start printing with the question
it immediately goes to court (the suits are already written)
it drags on and on….and at some point they deploy the forms with the question on them

that’s why imo the first lawsuits have to be to stop the printing (so they cant create a stockpile of forms with the question on them) or monitor all printing to ensure that what is going on doesnt include the question

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:46:15am

re: #147 Targetpractice

“He’s so unpopular, there’s no way he can win!” is not a winning strategy. No more than it was in 2016. We cannot plan out the next 17 months on the assumption that he’s hit his ceiling.

and all that maters is how many Electoral Votes he can garner…he does not need a majority or even a plurality to win there

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Dave In Austin  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:46:39am

Breaking. And you think drug prices are bad now….. Tinpot’s in control so fuck you.
markets.businessinsider.com

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:48:26am

re: #138 Eclectic Cyborg

The Census may already be printed with the question on it by then.

I’m telling you, this is their play. Just go ahead and put the question on there, then deal with the resulting shitstorm AFTER the forms are already sent out. It would be an epic clusterfuck.

But maybe that’s what they want so they can more easily manipulate the Census data without drawing attention to themselves.

Follows their same MO in carrying out FEC violations in getting elected. Paying a fine is a minor after the fact thing after winning.

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:49:17am

re: #142 lawhawk

And yet right wingers continue spewing nonsense about how the Epstein plea deal was ultimately on Obama’s plate when Obama was still a US Senator - not president. GWB was president at time this deal was made by Acosta.

because trump has his hand in absolutely everything, every other president must have as well

that obama wasnt president is almost besides the point

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:52:03am

re: #142 lawhawk

re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

presidency aside, the image still works

i mean he’s not in this picture: re: #81 Barefoot Grin

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:52:39am

re: #144 Targetpractice

The man is making clear he’s prepared to blow through multiple injunctions in order to get that question on the census, why will another lawsuit stop him?

Trump can’t run the presses himself. The people under him would have to risk jail time violating multiple court orders.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:52:51am

Facebook Video

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:52:55am

re: #151 Dave In Austin

Breaking. And you think drug prices are bad now….. Tinpot’s in control so fuck you.
markets.businessinsider.com

I will never cease to be amazed at how far Republicans are willing to go to fuck over as many people as possible.

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plansbandc  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:53:02am

A redditor’s dog adopted a baby raccoon…

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Belafon  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:53:25am

re: #151 Dave In Austin

This is one of those complicated, the consumer shouldn’t have to try to figure it out things:

CVS, Cigna, and other major players in the pharmacy benefits management space rose in surged on Thursday after the Trump administration said it will abandon its effort to eliminate rebates from government drug plans.

The now-scrapped proposal would have banned PBMs — or intermediaries who negotiate between drug manufacturers and insurance plans — from collecting portions of drug rebates for themselves as profit. PBMs would pass rebates to patients covered by Medicare and Medicaid and find a different way to increase revenue.

The rebate rule served as a centerpiece for the president’s plan to reduce drug prices, and would’ve deprived PBMs of a crucial portion of their overall revenue stream.

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Targetpractice  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:55:01am

re: #155 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Trump can’t run the presses himself. The people under him would have to risk jail time violating multiple court orders.

I’m going to assume we know it as fact that being charged, let alone convicted, would place them outside of a presidential pardon.

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:56:42am

re: #158 plansbandc

A redditor’s dog adopted a baby raccoon…

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who adopted who?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:56:57am

re: #147 Targetpractice

“He’s so unpopular, there’s no way he can win!” is not a winning strategy. No more than it was in 2016. We cannot plan out the next 17 months on the assumption that he’s hit his ceiling.

And we can’t count on a recession to hurt Trump in the polls . New unemployment claims remain very low, 209k reported today, and job creation contunues to chug along as it has for the last 9 years. It will help that everyone on our side is now aware that Trump can win, which should encourage them to show up to vote and not waste their vote on a 3rd party candidate.

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plansbandc  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:57:54am

re: #161 DangerMan

Good question! Seems they’re both content.

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MsJ  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:58:59am

re: #99 The Pie Overlord!

Up early this morning!

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Oy. The Stable Genius bullshit again.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2019 • 7:59:25am

re: #162 NO SMOCKING GUN!

And we can’t count on a recession to hurt Trump in the polls . New unemployment claims remain very low, 209k reported today, and job creation contunues to chug along as it has for the last 9 years. It will help that everyone on our side is now aware that Trump can win, which should encourage them to show up to vote and not waste their vote on a 3rd party candidate.

This is why I hope Bernie gets the fuck out early this time around.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:00:17am

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

This is why I hope Bernie gets the fuck out early this time around.

Bernie’s ego will not allow that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:00:44am

German supermarkets are recalling tainted rye flour that “could lead to hallucinations”…

cogito, ergot sum!!!

oekotest.de

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Dave In Austin  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:01:54am

Facebook Video

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:04:23am

re: #166 Feline Fearless Leader

Bernie’s ego will not allow that.

Bernie benefitted a lot from being the only alternative to Clinton. This time around people have a plethora of high quality choices, so he won’t get the benefit of being the only other option than the frontrunner.

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Belafon  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:04:30am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:06:48am

re: #170 Belafon

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Now that they have the greenlight from SCOTUS, GOPers will gerrymander even more aggressively in states they control than they did after the 2010 census.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:07:02am
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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:07:42am

re: #162 NO SMOCKING GUN!

And we can’t count on a recession to hurt Trump in the polls . New unemployment claims remain very low, 209k reported today, and job creation contunues to chug along as it has for the last 9 years. It will help that everyone on our side is now aware that Trump can win, which should encourage them to show up to vote and not waste their vote on a 3rd party candidate.

Ranked-Choice Voting Is Starting to Catch On

Many Democrats blame those Democrats who voted for Jill Stein or Gary Johnson for electing Donald Trump. The people who voted for the minor candidates reply that Hillary Clinton was a deeply flawed candidate and that they wanted to show everyone that they couldn’t stomach her. It seems like an impossible dilemma, but there is a way out, and it starting to catch on. Ranked-choice voting,
…
If states adopt a law like Maine’s for the general election, it could remove a lot of acrimony

i’m not one to use the word ‘but’ a lot BUT there is no impossible dilemma as long as ranked choice voting ISNT an option. So DON’T be an ass and vote third party to ‘make a statement’ because it doesn’t actually make the statement you want to make.

(further, and as an aside, if you thought clinton was so ‘deeply flawed’ that you are happy with what we have today, you are an idiot)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:10:58am

Alas, not worth stocking up on German rye flour

Die Alkaloide werden vom Mutterkornpilz produziert, der immer wieder auf Getreide vorkommt. Aus dem Pilz können Kundige den Grundstoff für die Droge LSD, eines der stärksten bekannten Halluzinogene, gewinnen. Der unverarbeitete Rohstoff ist aber weit weniger wirksam, die Gefahr eines Rauschs ist minimal.

“The alkaloids are produced from ergot, which is often found on grains. Those who know how can produce the basic materials for the drug LSD, one of the most powerful hallucinogens known, from the mould. The unprocessed raw material, however, is a lot less potent and the danger of intoxication is minimal.”

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:13:34am
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lawhawk  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:17:05am
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KGxvi  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:19:55am

Friendly reminder: today is free Slurpee day at 7/11, 11 am to 7 pm.

Hill Street Blues ‘Let’s be careful out there’

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Teukka  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:21:34am

Apparently, some media outlets in the United States have published stories about the conditions for the detained artist ASAP Rocky in Sweden that leave a lot to be desired in terms of truthfullness:

ASAP Rocky denies being held under inhumane conditions (SVT Nyheter)

Share if necessary.

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:22:51am

re: #167 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

German supermarkets are recalling tainted rye flour that “could lead to hallucinations”…

cogito, ergot sum!!!

oekotest.de

insert wry sense of humor joke here

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:26:20am

re: #174 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Crazy family history fact:

pIELJflYhfJgePCMXQRUgyNLbM0smy0Kx4OxFtfsrCyR9Hl+QDodmLF27+H3W1ddAwGRaIT/r7cmjGgP0PyaSQ==

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Mattand  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:29:29am

re: #173 DangerMan

(further, and as an aside, if you thought clinton was so ‘deeply flawed’ that you are happy with what we have today, you are an idiot)

Fucking suicide bombers of the Democratic Party. I know at least two of them.

The fact that the Bernie Bros in particular are vowing “My Jesus candidate or four more years of Trump” makes me want to punch them in the goddamn face.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:30:49am

Jeffrey Epstein’s Fortune May Be More Illusion Than Fact

Just like another complicit douche-canoe.

When federal prosecutors announced sex-trafficking charges against Jeffrey Epstein this week, they described him as “a man of nearly infinite means.” They argued that his vast wealth — and his two private jets — made him a flight risk.

Mr. Epstein is routinely described as a billionaire and brilliant financier, and he rubbed elbows with the powerful, including former and future presidents. Even after his 2008 guilty plea in a prostitution case in Florida, he promoted himself as a financial wizard who used arcane mathematical models, and he often dropped the names of Nobel Prize-winning friends. He told potential clients that they had to invest a minimum of $1 billion. At his peak in the early 2000s, a magazine profile said he employed 150 people, some working out of the historic Villard Houses on Madison Avenue.

Much of that appears to be an illusion, and there is little evidence that Mr. Epstein is a billionaire.

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KGxvi  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:33:22am

re: #181 Mattand

Fucking suicide bombers of the Democratic Party. I know at least two of them.

The fact that the Bernie Bros in particular are vowing “My Jesus candidate or four more years of Trump” makes me want to punch them in the goddamn face.

I think there’s always a part of the Democratic base that is looking to stir shit up. It’s Bernie Bros now, but in 2008 it was the PUMAs (Party Unity My Ass). In 2004, I feel like there was a minor version of this for Dean supporters (but I don’t think it was very pronounced, and died once it was made public he was going to Chair the DNC).

As Tweety is fond of saying: Democrats want to fall in love, Republicans fall in line.

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lawhawk  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:34:29am

re: #182 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Much like another no-talent (beyond being a con artist) assclown who now inhabits the WH and is busy destroying the rule of law, undermining US natsec, and enabling our rivals to fill the power vacuum Trump leaves in his wake.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:37:11am

re: #184 lawhawk

Much like another no-talent (beyond being a con artist) assclown who now inhabits the WH and is busy destroying the rule of law, undermining US natsec, and enabling our rivals to fill the power vacuum Trump leaves in his wake.

And this destruction is being done with the full cooperation of one of the country’s political parties and the de facto cooperation of the major media companies with their large scale control of television and print news.

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KGxvi  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:38:34am

re: #182 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Also from the story:

Mr. Epstein, 66, is doubtless very rich: His real estate alone — one of Manhattan’s largest private mansions, a Palm Beach estate, a Paris apartment, his own Caribbean island and a huge New Mexico ranch — is worth more than $200 million. His investment firm reported having $88 million in capital from its shareholders in 2002.

It’s very possible he has close to a billion dollars in assets. But like most of the uber wealthy he’s probably highly leveraged and not very liquid.

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:38:47am

re: #181 Mattand

Fucking suicide bombers of the Democratic Party. I know at least two of them.

The fact that the Bernie Bros in particular are vowing “My Jesus candidate or four more years of Trump” makes me want to punch them in the goddamn face.

advocating for trump under any circumstances means they are not Democrats (this is not “no true Scotsman”)

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stpaulbear  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:40:04am

A Florida cop planted meth on random drivers, police say. One lost custody of his daughter.

The story has a picture of him. He’s the very definition of a pig.

Wester, who was fired last September, was arrested Wednesday and charged with 52 counts of racketeering, false imprisonment, official misconduct, fabricating evidence and possession of controlled substances, among other charges. He’s accused of indiscriminately targeting innocent drivers and hauling them off to jail after planting meth or marijuana in their vehicles while feigning a “search.”

“There is no question that Wester’s crimes were deliberate and that his actions put innocent people in jail,”

…

One case, that of Teresa Odom, was illuminating — appearing to capture Wester holding an unknown object in his left hand shortly before “discovering” meth in her truck, in the rare case his body camera was left on.

“Hi, how are you?” Wester asked her in a friendly voice as he rolled up to her window, according to footage released to the news media. “The reason for is, um, your brake lights: They work one minute, and then the next minute they don’t work.”

He took her license, left momentarily, and returned to ask if he could search her vehicle. She said it was no problem with a shrug, as long as she could take her phone with her. “Hang tight, Ms. Odom,” He grabbed a pair of gloves from his cruiser — then appears to be holding a tiny plastic baggie inside his left hand, according to the video and affidavit.

The affidavit describes it like a magician’s sleight of hand: “Without putting on the glove, Deputy Wester’s left hand dropped out of view, down toward the front of the driver’s seat, and after a brief pause, reappeared empty.”

Shortly thereafter, Wester pulls a tiny plastic bag out of Odom’s purse: “Oh, Ms. Odom, how about this?” Wester asked, confronting Odom with the drugs.

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:45:25am

re: #188 stpaulbear

A Florida cop planted meth on random drivers, police say. One lost custody of his daughter.

The story has a picture of him. He’s the very definition of a pig.

…

i feel justified in hating a good portion of mankind, a priori

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Mattand  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:46:43am

re: #183 KGxvi

I think there’s always a part of the Democratic base that is looking to stir shit up. It’s Bernie Bros now, but in 2008 it was the PUMAs (Party Unity My Ass). In 2004, I feel like there was a minor version of this for Dean supporters (but I don’t think it was very pronounced, and died once it was made public he was going to Chair the DNC).

As Tweety is fond of saying: Democrats want to fall in love, Republicans fall in line.

Yeah, I know, but the stakes were obviously pretty fucking dire in 2016 and they still pulled the pin.

Now, with over 2.5 years of watching Republicans basically ignore rule of law and the Constitution, they’re getting ready to do it again. Fuck these people.

The whole thing is just discouraging. The woman across the street from me, who has a daughter, heard the Hollywood Access clip and still voted for Trump. Contractor up the street voted for the guy who made his money by fucking over contractors, mostly because he didn’t think a woman could be President.

Then, on top of that, add in the upcoming Russian interference (that the GOP won’t stop because it helps them) and the fucking idiot Bernie Bros.

I’m counting on a lot of people who are too stupid and lazy to make an adult, informed opinion at the ballot box next year. Not holding my breath here.

PS: fuck Chris Matthews. Every time someone mentions Reagan, he’s one click away on Expedia from flying to Ronnie’s gravesite and blowing his corpse. Matthews is a loudmouth jackass who fucked over Democrats twice in the 80’s, but everyone thinks he’s a genius because he can’t speak below 100dB.

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:47:13am

currently: (when both she and he could really wail it)

YouTube

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:53:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:55:46am
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Dave In Austin  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:57:23am

re: #179 DangerMan

insert wry sense of humor joke here

d-Lysergic acid diethylamide…….
Aint it beautiful!!

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Mattand  Jul 11, 2019 • 8:57:33am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was reading the other day about AOC complaining how Pelosi keeps shitting on her and the other Dem women Reps who were elected last year. It occurred to me that AOC is really holding back, because if she wanted to, she could make Pelosi’s life a living hell without even trying.

I don’t envy the various corners Pelosi is backed into, but I sometimes wonder if she’s playing it too conservative, as it were.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:03:20am

Meanwhile, ICE is planning it’s own Srebrenica this weekend, by targeting thousands of undocumented immigrant families in an upcoming massive crackdown.

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Mattand  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:03:32am

You know what’s nice about this site, besides the people? Everyone writes in paragraphs and uses ellipses properly; a.k.a., not using them as periods on every sentence.

Why, yes, I was just on Facebook recently. Why do you ask?

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lawhawk  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:03:48am

re: #195 Mattand

I was reading the other day about AOC complaining on how Pelosi keeps shitting on her and the other Dem women Reps who were elected last year. It occurred to me that AOC is really holding back, because if she wanted to, she could make Pelosi’s life a living hell without even trying.

I don’t envy the various corners Pelosi is backed into, but I sometimes wonder if she’s playing it too conservative, as it were.

AOC is making Pelosi look like a right winger. That’s either by accident or design, but it undercuts the GOP claims that Pelosi is a far left socialist.

But Overton window stuff aside, Pelosi is not taking the fight to Trump and holding all of his criminally corrupt people accountable, including all those who are ignoring the subpoenas and contempt. Start throwing people in jail for contempt of Congress. That’s what Trump understands and fears. He is a bully, and the way to stop a bully is to hit’em on the nose. He fears strong women and those who stand up to his BS. He backs down when you show strength.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:10:46am

re: #27 Anymouse 🌹

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Hmmmm, Gosh isn’t there a couple of Bible verses that say you can tell a false prophet by his incorrect prophesies AND that false prophet must be ignored?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:12:51am

re: #199 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hmmmm, Gosh isn’t there a couple of Bible verses that say you can tell a false prophet by his incorrect prophesies AND that false prophet must be ignored?

Yep, there are also verses about loving people unconditionally and chasing money changers out of the temple.

Crazy, huh?

//

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Targetpractice  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:13:15am

re: #198 lawhawk

AOC is making Pelosi look like a right winger. That’s either by accident or design, but it undercuts the GOP claims that Pelosi is a far left socialist.

But Overton window stuff aside, Pelosi is not taking the fight to Trump and holding all of his criminally corrupt people accountable, including all those who are ignoring the subpoenas and contempt. Start throwing people in jail for contempt of Congress. That’s what Trump understands and fears. He is a bully, and the way to stop a bully is to hit’em on the nose. He fears strong women and those who stand up to his BS. He backs down when you show strength.

So far, I’ve heard that the House Dems will only pursue criminal contempt charges for Barr and Ross…over the census question. But that’s probably because the DOJ can’t bullshit them with promises of “negotiations” that drag out for weeks and go nowhere.

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John Hughes  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:14:56am

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹

All things dull and ugly,
All creatures short and squat,
All things rude and nasty,
The Lord God made the lot.
Each little snake that poisons,
Each little wasp that stings,
He made their brutish venom.
He made their horrid wings.

All things sick and cancerous,
All evil great and small,
All things foul and dangerous,
The Lord God made them all.

Each nasty little hornet,
Each beastly little squid
Who made the spikey urchin?
Who made the sharks? He did!
All things scabbed and ulcerous,
All pox both great and small,
Putrid, foul and gangrenous,
The Lord God made them all.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:17:36am

re: #32 DodgerFan1988

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Speaking of not deserving equal pay, why the f*ck does this clown gets paid for talking like an annoying, 7th grade smart aleck?

Don’t you wish you could live on Easy Street collecting that sweet sweet wing nut welfare cash by endlessly kissing the Mercer’s asses?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:22:46am

re: #196 DodgerFan1988

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Meanwhile, ICE is planning it’s own Srebrenica this weekend, by targeting thousands of undocumented immigrant families in an upcoming massive crackdown.

Now as I understand, the ICE is just acting on standing orders to deport these people, but I do suppose they are going to go about it in most goose-stepping way possible to “send a message” and try to put some Fear of God into those remaining…

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:23:58am

re: #203 Joe Bacon 🌹

Don’t you wish you could live on Easy Street collecting that sweet sweet wing nut welfare cash by endlessly kissing the Mercer’s asses?

Not at all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:25:55am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

: Treason! Why does AOC hate America! We want MORE government! More! More!

DHS was created out of 22 other government agencies to counter a serious terror threat following 9/11

I do not know if AOC advocates abolishing all those agencies or merely the umbrella agency…

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sagehen  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:25:59am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and all that maters is how many Electoral Votes he can garner…he does not need a majority or even a plurality to win there

I saw somebody scary on a cable news discussion panel pointing out how Trump could lose the popular vote by 5 million and still be re-elected…

“If Democrats widen their margin by a million in California and New York, and close the margin in Texas by 800,000 — but he still narrowly wins the same swing states as last time…”

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:26:02am

re: #197 Mattand

You know what’s nice about this site, besides the people? Everyone writes in paragraphs and uses ellipses properly; a.k.a., not using them as periods on every sentence.

Why, yes, I was just on Facebook recently. Why do you ask?

otoh the oxford comma is like pineapple on pizza around here

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:26:55am

re: #208 DangerMan

otoh the oxford comma is like pineapple on pizza around here

There are, places where, it belongs…

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:28:32am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are, places where, it belongs…

the comma, surely
and yes the pineapple too - not on pizza ;-)

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lawhawk  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:32:22am
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Targetpractice  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:36:15am

re: #206 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

DHS was created out of 22 other government agencies to counter a serious terror threat following 9/11

I do not know if AOC advocates abolishing all those agencies or merely the umbrella agency…

I would think it would be to dissolve the umbrella agency and return administration of the 22 agencies to those they originally answered to. For example, putting CBP and ICE back under the purview of the Treasury Dept.

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sagehen  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:39:12am

re: #167 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

German supermarkets are recalling tainted rye flour that “could lead to hallucinations”…

cogito, ergot sum!!!

oekotest.de

I remember reading a theory that ergot was the reason for the massive number of witch trials in medieval Europe (and colonial America) — people having hallucinations and/or physical effects of ergot poisoning convinced each other they’d been cursed.

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BigPapa  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:39:55am

My wife overuses ellipses and it drives me nuts…

But not as bad as here being on Boo Boo Time. I hold the line at airplane flights. Or try to…

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Mike Lamb  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:40:28am

So is Trump going full Andrew Jackson on the census? If that wouldn’t prompt impeachment proceedings then I’m not sure what the point is. I understand that I tend to be more liberal and participatory in forums such as this, and that as a result, my perspective relative to the general public could be skewed. However, I think Pelosi would really be threatening to depress voter enthusiasm if Trump directs the citizenship question be included and she does nothing.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:41:03am

re: #188 stpaulbear

A Florida cop planted meth on random drivers, police say. One lost custody of his daughter.

The story has a picture of him. He’s the very definition of a pig.

…

It’s probably not a stretch of the imagination that all [most of?] the victims are POC?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:41:09am

I, for one, didn’t realize Colonel Sanders earned his rank in the Kentucky gas station chicken war.

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Ming5000  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:42:25am

re: #211 lawhawk

Does the risk of further evidence being destroyed enter into the bail consideration? If free, he can go after destroying any remaining evidence.

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Belafon  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:42:32am

re: #204 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Now as I understand, the ICE is just acting on standing orders to deport these people, but I do suppose they are going to go about it in most goose-stepping way possible to “send a message” and try to put some Fear of God into those remaining…

They’re going after people who have been ordered to leave by court order, but anyone else they can pick up that fits their definition of needing to be deported will be picked up as well. So, if dad has been ordered to leave, but mom’s status is undetermined, then she can be detained as well.

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gocart mozart  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:43:53am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:45:27am

Floriduh:

The state whose officials gave pedophile Epstein a slap on the wrist.
The state that found Casey Anthony not guilty.
The state that found George Zimmerman not guilty.
The state that elected Matt Gaetz.
The state where OJ Simpson now resides.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:48:51am

re: #211 lawhawk

He had a safe at that residence containing underage girls in lewd poses and potentially child porn.

He remains a public threat - no bail should be offered, and he remains a flight risk even with the conditions provided.

He would still be in a position to oversee the destruction of evidence and the intimidation of potential witnesses…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:50:28am

re: #219 Belafon

They’re going after people who have been ordered to leave by court order, but anyone else they can pick up that fits their definition of needing to be deported will be picked up as well. So, if dad has been ordered to leave, but mom’s status is undetermined, then she can be detained as well.

so we can expect to see some serious door-kicking and goose-stepping

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:50:58am

My cousin was a 9/11 first responder.

kKNdL1YztXELIC+e6+TCwUJ2FxnhD1vidGzFmqozJSgcOoa0eO9ulsVwQlPWHqLqIgTz7/Z31pN2EWDe8y1S/0g1cQpGDIYpjxBSbsdEZcLNDGFvUqRjkym7wK7kpAlqbYGDJfHeZysJ2ATmNEAfzxdIxOGzlAeNWPd5JOME522pXdnCGgCYeqgJ47y2693zooCofwpyrfo+RiPc7QQgk9qEPV9Qhh4C77ICAr6eaBLv+SsGnC/kplNHqijRcjLemk9VZRvNqxeDimk1c/BdiVVRYDs4Htc49NoISrzZRQ9eV0XON+qvOog8rz7Lia+NJmvmDX/2kQJ64myd1io65eFyI8BIGsKa3Ie1ph2bzCsrm5Z0Na3/8gjUdSnguyjJw3oHvRsqikGbQmSoCY0HY+K/uKkWwI6uIsaJ0i6NRWxS/6l0hAS1DbM9VvlAHctCqOH7NCf6+Lhl3Tjvs6PRl8mnlNcWjeXQvTqgBKK/P8TyCp4Xd84tZiLuIpMow71Lqw3dq+VVQK+EjpwNf3Jmht8OnZUbLCQhndrRRAbd7m6Y6qoFjGuwTZGnto0PwaMh7b8rwEh0Avrifoz4gY9F3OFXv/qYcXA6jmC/2qNxXyup9sC3ZBItTJUsSrN3RHKOr7yBGNutKJ/WO19mwOLFKtAobsjoNJtumYkdTLmtgYMY1b+brAqKenBj7HDlGLolHXhnWlBlTStSvCrYFfohIJkbP6JfYBk+7iYXgDu+dqV53oWhfLE2KIgpK3F3RYHlzziGPgAmgRlIuJ7+fOAwlilCLNYooTQWyCBhMEC8Vh2SN3iiM5H0qEQL4KsX5cMJ67yAFSO4ac4HRGljPkOpqKBvXQWCZrRl9JfMomKAMWdI3reEMThmaAoXer8y4VG3zqmlCOoUgu6kQtZy9QdSRuU/E5RXOAO4/2iYQv/CAIJJH7ZptHHGw3W8Dmq95/8b1/TWBWdvSLfSJZUMpBuJZOWNpUkREpeCm4uL62+3yDJR8Bj1BkEovdfmYc6KcOBSEkqUkeZAJbrgjfrWMEx4ylgJHRu/QkADOEEZSWJ0spz/nDhzQjnBahDt8EWwzic2/2vCwtImr3VtOj4kYBp7rJLGmhj4YHLT2Rr1MOjj26Sz6fuzUq6lUolAm5JpxA3t0q06GjfDL77yBNsNe9n2cAJfiQ7WwoSm7gFlm1wB5JvQmdQZ+VApT7IdHeB6zWkQ+ULtnrZ7OBbkPSxr3WP1uRuk8c5otLcr3481JWyVoNvazYd5fttdcrkQTCmpfpkH0SK9KRpcAfgfDjELGo5n9eTduLdwSxCx63O5BsQKMlNbmifgEo3PHzR30Wn9GIjNG7U3IUn4uVrmnVQ/ulikqMjN0oOH/sJVj/P7/UCQcL2Ymd5Sy+DtSGYTsTsWOpzEZLo8Uk5YivqQzvStOiuVIqAk+znukkOkrySJmHqVaJmfc079blfvF+7OLyGqnDgZiTOaDyEcqh9eI1131dAtKXlT3dKtOIpnHIAWvucMziP0Yz0syXk58wUu7bWs+XXT0M7ztZryUlc=

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lawhawk  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:52:28am

re: #218 Ming5000

Does the risk of further evidence being destroyed enter into the bail consideration? If free, he can go after destroying any remaining evidence.

That could be a consideration, as is witness intimidation. I think witness intimidation came up in the prosecution briefs.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:53:05am

re: #221 Dr. Matt

Floriduh:

The state whose officials gave pedophile Epstein a slap on the wrist.
The state that found Casey Anthony not guilty.
The state that found George Zimmerman not guilty.
The state that elected Matt Gaetz.
The state where OJ Simpson now resides.


And the state with the highest percentage of disenfranchised citizens as of 2016.

Even though that lifetime ban on voting was supposedly rescinded in a 2018 referendum, thanks to the usual Republican shenanigans, it remains largely in effect.

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Skip Intro  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:54:27am

re: #221 Dr. Matt

Floriduh:

The state whose officials gave pedophile Epstein a slap on the wrist.
The state that found Casey Anthony not guilty.
The state that found George Zimmerman not guilty.
The state that elected Matt Gaetz.
The state where OJ Simpson now resides.

The state where Rush Limbaugh received a slap on the wrist for having bought thousands of oxycontin pills.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:55:11am

re: #204 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Now as I understand, the ICE is just acting on standing orders to deport these people, but I do suppose they are going to go about it in most goose-stepping way possible to “send a message” and try to put some Fear of God into those remaining…

Tens of thousands of heavily-armed ICE agents, who already think the people they are about to raid are “cockroaches, parasites, subhuman scum.” What could possibly go wrong?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:55:24am

re: #227 Skip Intro

The state where Rush Limbaugh received a slap on the wrist for having bought thousands of oxycontin pills.

The state that launched a thousand Carl Hiaasen characters and plot lines…

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lawhawk  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:55:29am

re: #227 Skip Intro

The state where Rush Limbaugh received a slap on the wrist for having bought thousands of oxycontin pills.

But for Limbaugh being a rich white guy, someone in that position would have been treated as a dealer and thrown in prison for life.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:55:44am

re: #227 Skip Intro

The state where Rush Limbaugh received a slap on the wrist for having bought thousands of oxycontin pills.

And was carrying around an Rx of Viagra with someone else’s name on the bottle.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:56:19am

OMG

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lawhawk  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:56:53am

NYT:
The House Judiciary Committee approved a dozen new subpoenas targeting witnesses cited in the Mueller report. The list includes Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law, and Jeff Sessions, the former attorney general.

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:58:52am

re: #229 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The state that launched a thousand Carl Hiaasen characters and plot lines…

the state hosting #thegreatpoolpondconversion ;-)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:59:28am

re: #233 lawhawk

NYT:
The House Judiciary Committee approved a dozen new subpoenas targeting witnesses cited in the Mueller report. The list includes Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law, and Jeff Sessions, the former attorney general.

Which will all promptly be ignored because hey, Bill Barr got away with it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 11, 2019 • 9:59:46am

re: #230 lawhawk

But for Limbaugh being a rich white guy, someone in that position would have been treated as a dealer and thrown in prison for life.

Isn’t this the way “justice” has always operated in our nation:
>>one set of rules for the rich, another set for everyone else.
>>one set for whites, another set for people of color

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:03:01am

re: #190 Mattand

Yeah, I know, but the stakes were obviously pretty fucking dire in 2016 and they still pulled the pin.

Now, with over 2.5 years of watching Republicans basically ignore rule of law and the Constitution, they’re getting ready to do it again. Fuck these people.

The whole thing is just discouraging. The woman across the street from me, who has a daughter, heard the Hollywood Access clip and still voted for Trump. Contractor up the street voted for the guy who made his money by fucking over contractors, mostly because he didn’t think a woman could be President.

Then, on top of that, add in the upcoming Russian interference (that the GOP won’t stop because it helps them) and the fucking idiot Bernie Bros.

I’m counting on a lot of people who are too stupid and lazy to make an adult, informed opinion at the ballot box next year. Not holding my breath here.

PS: fuck Chris Matthews. Every time someone mentions Reagan, he’s one click away on Expedia from flying to Ronnie’s gravesite and blowing his corpse. Matthews is a loudmouth jackass who fucked over Democrats twice in the 80’s, but everyone thinks he’s a genius because he can’t speak below 100dB.

Oh I remember Tweety being one of the Four Horsemen demanding Clinton’s impeachment along with Michael Kelly, Tim Russert and Maureen Dowd.

Don’t forget how Tweety had an orgasm on the air when he and Liddy were gushing over Dumbya landing the plane and strutting around with a sock in his jockstrap.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:03:23am

Jelena Ostapenko’s Doubles Partner Has Endured Too Much Friendly Fire

Jelena Ostapenko is one of the fiercest power hitters in the women’s game. She hasn’t quite lived up to the promise of her 2017 French Open win, and she had a disappointing first-round loss in the singles draw at this Wimbledon, but she’s still alive in the quarterfinals of the mixed doubles. And she is still clobbering the tennis ball, as her partner Robert Lindstedt learned firsthand during Monday’s match.

Then, today, Ostapenko bonked a 93-mph serve right off the head of Lindstedt, who held up two fingers to keep count.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:03:44am

re: #236 Hecuba’s daughter

Isn’t this the way “justice” has always operated in our nation:
>>one set of rules for the rich, another set for everyone else.
>>one set for whites, another set for people of color

Just like it was always possible to send one’s daughter away to another state to visit an auntie if she had certain boy-related problems that needed to be taken care of…

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:07:11am

i asked this the other day and this is why, apparently

NYPD let convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein skip judge-ordered check-ins

Convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein never once checked in with city cops in the eight-plus years since a Manhattan judge ordered him to do so every 90 days — and the NYPD says it’s fine with that.

whether it would have mattered?

but checked in “never once”!

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Dr. Matt  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:07:27am

re: #237 Joe Bacon 🌹

Don’t forget how Tweety had an orgasm on the air when he and Liddy were gushing over Dumbya landing the plane and strutting around with a sock in his jockstrap.

And Ann Coulter was on set having a mutual orgasim claiming it’s “hard to imagine any Democrat being able to do that” (i.e., sit in an airplane while a Naval Aviator lands it on an aircraft carrier).

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Sir John Barron  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:08:18am

re: #215 Mike Lamb

So is Trump going full Andrew Jackson on the census? If that wouldn’t prompt impeachment proceedings then I’m not sure what the point is. I understand that I tend to be more liberal and participatory in forums such as this, and that as a result, my perspective relative to the general public could be skewed. However, I think Pelosi would really be threatening to depress voter enthusiasm if Trump directs the citizenship question be included and she does nothing.

I’m so old I remember when Obama was so Tyrannies by issuing executive orders.

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:08:19am

re: #240 DangerMan

i asked this the other day and this is why, apparently

NYPD let convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein skip judge-ordered check-ins

whether it would have mattered?

but checked in “never once”!

Like GW Bush and his Air National Guard service…

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Targetpractice  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:08:47am

re: #235 Eclectic Cyborg

Which will all promptly be ignored because hey, Bill Barr got away with it.

Ayep. A lot of noise will be made about how the House Dems will not stand for this defiance…by taking the matter to the courts and watching as it fades into the same obscurity as their contempt charges against Barr.

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Belafon  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:10:21am

re: #235 Eclectic Cyborg

Which will all promptly be ignored because hey, Bill Barr got away with it.

And all the anger will be directed at House Democrats.

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Targetpractice  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:11:27am

re: #245 Belafon

And all the anger will be directed at House Democrats.

Gee, I can’t imagine why anybody would care that the people who promised to do something about Trump’s lawlessness…are coming up with reasons why they can’t do something about Trump’s lawlessness.

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:11:29am

re: #245 Belafon

And all the anger will be directed at House Democrats.

For witch hunting and harassing…

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:12:53am

re: #233 lawhawk

the one to watch is Lewandowski

iirc he never worked for the administration

these three also shouldnt have any WH ‘protection’:

the committee is expected to authorize subpoenas of Keith Davidson, a former attorney for adult-film star Stormy Daniels; and National Enquirer editor Dylan Howard and American Media Inc. chief executive David Pecker.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:13:32am

re: #241 Dr. Matt

And Ann Coulter was on set having a mutual orgasim claiming it’s “hard to imagine any Democrat being able to do that” (i.e., sit in an airplane while a Naval Aviator lands it on an aircraft carrier).

I remember my brother gushing about that during a phone conversation — proclaiming that the Democrats were all envious of Bush. Back then, my brother was all in favor of turning Mecca into glass — now, with Trump’s close relationship with MBS, he thinks of Saudis as our good friends. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:16:08am

oh, and as to that dumbass tweet this AM “how many bites of the apple, etc”, well

- congress gets as many bites at oversight as it wants and needs
- the executive branch has no say in the matter
- and all these hearings are not about the same thing, you nitwit

and finally “whitewater”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:16:54am

re: #250 DangerMan

oh, and as to that dumbass tweet this AM “how many bites of the apple, etc”, well

- congress gets as many bites at oversight as it wants and needs
- the executive branch has no say in the matter
- and all these hearings are not about the same thing, you nitwit

and finally “whitewater”

that was different because

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:21:14am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:23:35am

re: #239 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just like it was always possible to send one’s daughter away to another state to visit an auntie if she had certain boy-related problems that needed to be taken care of…

Or, “Say….where’s Susie? Haven’t seen her around lately.”

“Oh, she’s on vacation in France. Marseilles. Lovely weather all year ‘round.”

For the wealthier set, mind you.

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lawhawk  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:23:38am

Crap…. our favorite bakery (for breads and such) just got shut down because a car crashed through the front causing the building department to declare it uninhabitable. Driver accidentally hit the accelerator instead of the brake. One customer was injured from flying glass.

They serve commercial/business facilities all across the NYC metro area, so not sure how this will impact their commercial business.

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sagehen  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:24:59am

re: #250 DangerMan

oh, and as to that dumbass tweet this AM “how many bites of the apple, etc”, well

- congress gets as many bites at oversight as it wants and needs
- the executive branch has no say in the matter
- and all these hearings are not about the same thing, you nitwit

and finally “whitewater”

Benghazi.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:25:46am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

I miss having a real President.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:30:48am

re: #254 lawhawk

Crap…. our favorite bakery (for breads and such) just got shut down because a car crashed through the front causing the building department to declare it uninhabitable. Driver accidentally hit the accelerator instead of the brake. One customer was injured from flying glass.

They serve commercial/business facilities all across the NYC metro area, so not sure how this will impact their commercial business.

My favorite bakery is my kitchen.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:32:05am

re: #257 The Pie Overlord!

My favorite bakery is my kitchen.

Ours too. :P

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:37:11am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

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you know trump is pissed he doesnt have one of those shirts

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lawhawk  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:37:14am

re: #257 The Pie Overlord!

The Mrs doesn’t bake breads and challahs; she’ll bake cookies, brownies, and cakes (no pie). But yeah, I get it…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:37:32am
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A Mom Anon  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:38:00am

re: #257 The Pie Overlord!

Mine too….

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sagehen  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:39:16am

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If they did ask… can’t he legitimately claim attorney/cient privilege and be very sad that he’s not allowed to discuss it?

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Alephnaught  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:40:01am

re: #99 The Pie Overlord!

Up early this morning!

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Hmmm, appears to deleted those tweets..

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:40:34am
“It’s near impossible to summarize the entire QAnon conspiracy theory, as it’s fluid and ever-changing. The nuts and bolts are that a secret government insider, the titular Q, has taken to the internet forum 8chan of all places to drop clues (known in the community as Q Drops breadcrumbs) about how President Trump is taking down the deep state. The conspiracy takes some twists and turns into the occult, an ever-present cabal of pedophiles, possible executions, and the idea JFK Jr. may have faked his own death and is cosplaying as an old guy who goes to Trump rallies.”

“While the QAnon conspiracy often feels like an elaborate troll, an online community of real, actual people has built up around it.”

we are doomed because some of us insist on being blithering idiots

(eta “blithering”)

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:41:02am

re: #232 The Pie Overlord!

OMG

Is there enough insulin to handle this?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:44:16am

re: #257 The Pie Overlord!

My favorite bakery is my kitchen.

I never did much baking and am fortunate to live in a village with a bakery just up the street on the village square. I am spoiled for fresh-baked rolls for breakfast.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:45:24am

re: #264 Alephnaught

Hmmm, appears to deleted those tweets..

Nope. I’m seeing them.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:47:39am

re: #265 DangerMan

we are doomed because some of us insist on being blithering idiots

(eta “blithering”)

And when has this country not been full of blithering idiots? In July 1940, after the fall of France, 61% of American were opposed to our helping Britain. If Trump had been President, we would all be speaking German today.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:48:00am

re: #262 A Mom Anon

A long ass time ago I made and decorated custom cakes. My best one was a purple telephone ☎️ (looked just like the emoji) for a teenager’s birthday. That was about 30 years ago, doubt I could pull that off now. It’s pretty labor intensive.

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:48:20am

re: #240 DangerMan

i asked this the other day and this is why, apparently

NYPD let convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein skip judge-ordered check-ins

whether it would have mattered?

but checked in “never once”!

let me add that Acosta said yesterday “There was a value to a sure guilty plea”

so i’m now asking, what value?

- no one monitored him
- he didnt stop doing what he was doing - likely expanded his ‘network’ over these years
- you immunized everyone else who likely also committed crimes (lord knows why - did you get information out of them?)

so what was the ‘value to a sure guilty plea’?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:49:30am

re: #265 DangerMan

we are doomed because some of us insist on being blithering idiots

(eta “blithering”)

I begin to wonder whether there’s something askew in the wiring of 25-40% of the population. Seriously. There seems to be a substantial portion of the population that is driven by paranoid fantasy, to become ever more fearful and angry.

Meanwhile, I feel like the anger and energy on our side is sputtering out from fatigue.

Perhaps that’s the difference between us - they can continue to feed on anger indefinitely, whereas we can’t maintain it. I believe that makes us mentally healthier, but it also makes keeping up the energy to defeat them harder.

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:51:19am

re: #269 Hecuba’s daughter

And when has this country not been full of blithering idiots? In July 1940, after the fall of France, 61% of American were opposed to our helping Britain. If Trump had been President, we would all be speaking German today.

at least germany’s a real place

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A Mom Anon  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:51:51am

re: #271 DangerMan

It’s too bad Acosta can’t be charged as an accessory. Because of him the number of victims continued to expand. He shouldn’t ever be allowed to get anywhere near legal proceedings or enforcement of laws EVER. Can he be banned from practicing law over what he’s done?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:51:54am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:52:30am

re: #264 Alephnaught

Hmmm, appears to deleted those tweets..

he redid them

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:53:11am

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

“or maybe 10 or 14 (just kidding)”

He sure loves that “joke”, doesn’t he?

*spit*

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b.d.  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:53:12am

re: #275 Charles Johnson

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Weak!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:53:14am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:53:40am

Also, who the hell is he calling Alfred E. Neuman?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:53:48am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:54:27am

re: #281 Charles Johnson

It’s sure as hell dawned on me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:54:28am

re: #280 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, who the hell is he calling Alfred E. Neuman?

Mayor Pete

also, in the original tweet, he tagged somebody totally unrelated

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calochortus  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:55:33am

re: #268 Blind Frog Belly White

Nope. I’m seeing them.

And they are beyond stupid. What elevator did he ride in November 2016? In what world is 1000/24 less than 1 (or 41, for that matter?)

edit: I see he “corrected” himself.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:55:44am

re: #280 Eclectic Cyborg

Beto or mayor Pete maybe? He’s such a fucking nitwit bully, he may even think Alfred is an actual person.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:59:01am

re: #284 calochortus

And they are beyond stupid. What elevator did he ride in November 2016? In what world is 1000/24 less than 1 (or 41, for that matter?)

edit: I see he “corrected” himself.

It’s part of his basic innumeracy. Anyone who isn’t innumerate looks at “1000/24” and realizes it’s WAY over 1, but numbers, like truth, have no meaning for Trump, so he doesn’t see it and has to have it pointed out to him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 11, 2019 • 10:59:59am

re: #285 A Mom Anon

Beto or mayor Pete maybe? He’s such a fucking nitwit bully, he may even think Alfred is an actual person.

He has previously referred to Buttigieg as “Alfred E. Newman”.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:00:20am

re: #216 Dr. Matt

Damn. That ssshole cop is the definition of, “Power corrupts.”

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:00:24am

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

he redid them

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the president is a loon

he talks like a loon
he tweets like a loon
a loon is in charge of our government and does this with his time all day long

his administration, the R senate, and the media are more than ‘letting him do this’
they are encouraging it and embracing it

what a loon you picked to be your standard bearer

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:07:22am

re: #288 Romantic Heretic

Damn. That ssshole cop is the definition of, “Power corrupts.”

Between that, and a story about a cop who shot a kid while trying to shoot a totally nonthreatening family dog - and got off because of “qualified immunity”, I’ve really about had it with cops. I feel like the canonization of police as Heroes Who Protect Us From Unspeakable Danger is emboldening the worst elements - not only the bad cops, but also the bad WITHIN EACH cop.

But stories about cops shooting dogs always make my blood boil, so I may be less than completely rational and fair right now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:07:38am
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Targetpractice  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:08:20am

re: #281 Charles Johnson

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Amash made this argument on TV the other day, that by saying she won’t take action until she has a “strong case,” Pelosi is effectively saying aloud that she doesn’t believe she has a strong case against Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:09:06am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:09:15am

re: #292 Targetpractice

Amash made this argument on TV the other day, that by saying she won’t take action until she has a “strong case,” Pelosi is effectively saying aloud that she doesn’t believe she has a strong case against Trump.

And that blows my fucking mind.

With everything he has done, how can you NOT have a strong case??

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:09:46am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

Karma is fun sometimes, isn’t it?

:P

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Dr. Matt  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:10:43am

What are the odds that Qanon started off as a Lefty prank to test the gullibleness of righties?

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:11:48am

And now comes the news that 2/3 of veterans have woken up to the fact that the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan were NOT WORTH IT.

About 57% still support what Trump is doing in the Middle East, but this is mainly because of tribalism.

Anyone who has actually served in these theaters who is not lost to all reason and analytical thinking, now knows that these wars were bullshit.

It’s hard not to say “I told you so” to all my stupid fucking relatives who yelled & screamed at me back in 2003-5 about Iraq and how it was going to usher in a new Paradise On Earth Just You Wait And See Fancy Libtard!

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Sea Mexican  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:11:54am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yet another case of Florida (Wo)man. At the very least, she should know better than assume all Spanish speakers are Mexican.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:14:56am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:15:21am

re: #298 Sea Mexican

Yet another case of Florida (Wo)man. At the very least, she should know better than assume all Spanish speakers are Mexican.

Hell, I speak a little Spanish and I’m CANADIAN. I bet that would blow their bigoted little minds.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:15:32am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

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As I’ve mentioned many times, I’ve been able to speak Spanish since I was a child. It’s only been in the last few years that this came to be regarded as somehow subversive or disloyal.

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:16:08am

you should go here and see this

@TheRickWilson

Ha. Palm Beach $$$ guy, I haven’t spoken to for years just texted me out of the blue.

“Why hasn’t anybody figured out Trump and Epstein had a falling out because Jeffrey wanted to **** Ivanka?”

trump is/was creepy
i assume the pix are not ‘shopped (except the obvious one)

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calochortus  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:17:31am

re: #298 Sea Mexican

Yet another case of Florida (Wo)man. At the very least, she should know better than assume all Spanish speakers are Mexican.

Also too, who cares? As long as I am not being excluded from a conversation that I should be a part of, I really don’t care what language you’re speaking. And my default assumption is that if you are having a side conversation with someone in another language, even if I am standing right next to you, it doesn’t concern me.
If you start pointing at me and laughing, I might have a slightly different take on it.

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Ming5000  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:18:34am

re: #297 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

100,000 suicides? I had to look it up.

Wow,
More than 6,000 veterans have killed themselves each year since 2008, according to the VA data.

I knew it was high…… stark numbers

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Targetpractice  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:19:40am

re: #299 Charles Johnson

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Falls under “I’ll believe it when I see it.”

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:19:45am

re: #292 Targetpractice

Amash made this argument on TV the other day, that by saying she won’t take action until she has a “strong case,” Pelosi is effectively saying aloud that she doesn’t believe she has a strong case against Trump.

it’s also possible they have a ‘good case’ that they will use if necessary, while meantime they try to build a better one

yes, they’ll only get once chance at impeachment
with this guy, impeachment can include a very wide variety of charges

i may be reaching.

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lawhawk  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:20:34am

re: #299 Charles Johnson

I suspect this will be to get it in the ACS.

But we’ll need to validate and verify that the census itself does not have the question on it about citizenship, and then make sure that all the census questionnaires are returned and counted.

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William Lewis  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:20:55am

re: #297 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

I told a wingnut friend in 2003 that given GOP incompetence and the reality of trying to fight a war in Afghanistan/Iran/Iraq/etc we’d still be there 20 years later and that I expected our then toddler children to be drafted about now for that fight. I believe that only Obama’s election has prevented a renewal of the draft. Had the GOP stayed in power, they’d have already started a war in Iran and that would be impossible to have enough manpower for without a draft of both men and women. I must admit, I am grateful for my son’s mental illness since it protects him from that possibility.

I’m a vet and served willingly in the cold war under Ronnie Fucking Raygun. But that was nothing compared to the hell that the Bush League put these troops through.

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:21:14am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Go back to Mexico”: Viral video shows Burger King manager abused by two women. Elderly customers asked to leave restaurant after berating Puerto Rican owner for speaking Spanish to employee.

- MY restaurant. I don’t need your business.

yet in 3, 2, 1, how dare a “puerto rican” (ie not a real american) refuse service to…..

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Charles Johnson  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:22:45am

Washington Post gives their op-ed page to racist scumbag Charlie Kirk.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:23:51am

re: #264 Alephnaught

Hmmm, appears to deleted those tweets..

Retweeted to “correct” EW’s NA percentage & some random victim’s Twitter account.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:25:10am

re: #310 Charles Johnson

Washington Post gives their op-ed page to racist scumbag Charlie Kirk.

Charlie fucking Kirk, one of the worst of the liars and idiots of the Right, gets an op-ed published in the WashPost to complain that Conservatives are being silenced.

Let that sink in for a moment.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:25:42am

re: #311 The Pie Overlord!

Retweeted to “correct” EW’s NA percentage & some random victim’s Twitter account.

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But he still didn’t correct the date of the escalator ride.

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William Lewis  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:26:59am

re: #310 Charles Johnson

This is why I don’t pay for their paper. They are possibly the closest thing to real journalism left but so long as they do this kind of both-sider shit, it is meaningless. Fuck’em with a rusty spork from Toy Story 4 out takes.

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:36:49am

re: #310 Charles Johnson

Washington Post gives their op-ed page to racist scumbag Charlie Kirk.

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“it’s time to treat tech platforms like publishers”

- publishers are active gate keepers to their ‘printing presses’ or mechanisms.
- they are free to accept any work they want
- they are free to reject any work they want
- im no expert. i think there is virtually no such thing as ‘discriminatory rejection’
- they even assist by editing the material and with layout, art, etc.

- the ‘tech platforms’ he means are merely ‘printing presses’
— they give you access to the publication machine
- the owners (presumably) dont participate in what’s posted or not
- with the exception that they each have house rules that are supposed to be fair and uniformly enforced

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:38:58am

re: #310 Charles Johnson

JFC.

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DangerMan  Jul 11, 2019 • 11:39:40am

re: #313 Blind Frog Belly White

But he still didn’t correct the date of the escalator ride.

stable genius: one who can separate the manure from the shavings

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plansbandc  Jul 11, 2019 • 12:00:01pm

re: #221 Dr. Matt

The state that gave the Presidency to dubya. (With a massive assist from the Supreme Court.)

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Semper Fi  Jul 11, 2019 • 12:00:37pm

re: #281 Charles Johnson

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A lot of voters who just skim the news (millions?) will consider that no action (impeachment) means: It’s really just political noise and accusations without action means there is really no substance to it all. This distresses me most.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jul 11, 2019 • 12:44:34pm

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹

Yup. Protesting the war in Iraq got people branded as traitors by Geo. W. Bush (if you’re not with us, you’re against us).

I did not protest though I opposed it. I was too busy looking for food.

Yeah, standing outside the Federal Building on Wilshire and getting my picture taken by a bunch of angry-looking FBI types was not a highlight of 2003.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jul 11, 2019 • 12:48:26pm

re: #304 Ming5000

100,000 suicides? I had to look it up.

Wow,
More than 6,000 veterans have killed themselves each year since 2008, according to the VA data.

I knew it was high…… stark numbers

Yeah, my dad is an American Legion Post commander.

The guys come back, and just can’t reconcile;
What they were told by Fox and right-wing hawks
-with-
Objective lived, experienced reality

Fox and the right-wing worldview is only viable if you choose to live in a fantasyland bubble.

The ones who can’t live in fantasy, find themselves feeling lost. Worse yet, abused by friends and family who demand that they go along with the Fox/Hate Radio line that everything in the Iraq/Afghanistan was a GLORIOUS VICTORY FOR THE FATHERLAND.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 11, 2019 • 1:17:25pm

…

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Old Liberal  Jul 11, 2019 • 2:53:54pm

re: #297 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

And now comes the news that 2/3 of veterans have woken up to the fact that the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan were NOT WORTH IT.

About 57% still support what Trump is doing in the Middle East, but this is mainly because of tribalism.

Anyone who has actually served in these theaters who is not lost to all reason and analytical thinking, now knows that these wars were bullshit.

It’s hard not to say “I told you so” to all my stupid fucking relatives who yelled & screamed at me back in 2003-5 about Iraq and how it was going to usher in a new Paradise On Earth Just You Wait And See Fancy Libtard!

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What pisses me off is in spite of being demonstrably admittedly wrong they still think their opinion on current events is equal to yours. They don’t keep score, if they did they’d realize they are fucked in the head.


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