And Now, Here's Something Good: Laura & Anton, "Corcovado (Quiet Nights)"

And Now, Here’s Something Good: Laura & Anton, “Corcovado (Quiet Nights)”

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233 comments

MsJ Jul 14, 2019 • 1:25:37pm

Interesting indeed. Read it. Thoughts?

Interesting thread. Comments? https://t.co/6Xw121PZrU

— Karoli (@Karoli) July 14, 2019

plansbandc Jul 14, 2019 • 1:28:11pm

The Pod Save America guys interviewed Rapinoe, and I highly recommend listening to it.

Charmingly Persistent Jul 14, 2019 • 1:37:05pm

re: #1 MsJ

I have been thinking that we could survive the Senate refusing to remove Trump from office, if it was obviously partisan and out of line. What we absolutely could not survive is the House voting against impeachment. That really would be seen as vindication and game over.

I don’t know if the votes are there. I kind think they aren’t yet.

Decatur Deb Jul 14, 2019 • 1:37:37pm

re: #1 MsJ

Interesting indeed. Read it. Thoughts?

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As I was saying…

MsJ Jul 14, 2019 • 1:44:16pm

Pelosi isn’t some neophyte. If she’s sitting on this there’s a reason. And I have and continue to support her.

So I want this trump thing gone? FUCK YEAH. But do it right.

That’s my take on it.

NO SMOCKING GUN! Jul 14, 2019 • 1:44:56pm

re: #3 Charmingly Persistent

I have been thinking that we could survive the Senate refusing to remove Trump from office, if it was obviously partisan and out of line. What we absolutely could not survive is the House voting against impeachment. That really would be seen as vindication and game over.

I don’t know if the votes are there. I kind think they aren’t yet.

And that is why we need an impeachment inquiry with televised testimony.

PhillyPretzel Jul 14, 2019 • 1:45:31pm

re: #5 MsJ

Yes. I agree. If you are going to do it; do it right.

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 14, 2019 • 1:53:21pm

re: #7 PhillyPretzel

Yes. I agree. If you are going to do it; do it right.

If you come for the king, etc.

FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jul 14, 2019 • 1:54:34pm

PhillyPretzel Jul 14, 2019 • 1:54:49pm

re: #8 Blind Frog Belly White

That is probably why King John signed the Magna Carta in a field called Runnymede. All of the nobles got together and surrounded him.

plansbandc Jul 14, 2019 • 1:55:44pm

A thinly-veiled comic about voting.
Vote for Democrats. ALL Democrats.
No matter what. Because we need to out Republicans.
And there’s nothing else you can do that does that.#UniteBlue #BlueWave #VoteBlue #GOTV #DemForce pic.twitter.com/7ma8xkrSqx

— Spry Guy (@SpryGuy) October 26, 2018

Decatur Deb Jul 14, 2019 • 1:57:54pm

And a little background on the last successful impeachment effort, Oct 73—Aug 74:

In the 694 days between 11 January 1973 and 6 December 1974, the New York Stock Exchange’s Dow Jones Industrial Average benchmark suffered the seventh-worst bear market in its history, losing over 45% of its value.[2] 1972 had been a good year for the DJIA, with gains of 15% in the twelve months. 1973 had been expected to be even better, with Time magazine reporting just 3 days before the crash began that it was ‘shaping up as a gilt-edged year’.[3] In the two years from 1972 to 1974, the American economy slowed from 7.2% real GDP growth to −2.1% contraction, while inflation (by CPI) jumped from 3.4% in 1972 to 12.3% in 1974.[

—en.wikipedia.org

Colère Tueur de Lapin Jul 14, 2019 • 1:58:01pm

re: #10 PhillyPretzel

That is probably why King John signed the Magna Carta in a field called Runnymede. All of the nobles got together and surrounded him.

He certainly didn’t do it due to magnanimity. The king exists at the sufferance of his lords.

FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jul 14, 2019 • 1:58:30pm

I got to high school and thought that would change. I was a good student, Student Council President etc… was still told by other students to go back to Mexico.

— Ruben Gallego (@RubenGallego) July 14, 2019

To people like Trump I will never be American enough. So if you wonder why I give no inch to these racists, now you know. Nothing will ever satisfy them, all we can do is stop them.

— Ruben Gallego (@RubenGallego) July 14, 2019

FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jul 14, 2019 • 2:00:05pm

And spare me the analysis about how Trump’s racist tweets will unite the Democratic Party. Isn’t the relevant question now and forever what the hell Republicans are willing to do about it?

— Matthew Miller (@matthewamiller) July 14, 2019

Dread Pirate Jul 14, 2019 • 2:01:28pm

re: #15 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

They are united behind his racism.

BigPapa Jul 14, 2019 • 2:02:49pm

Ruben Gallego is the America I want. Trump is the America I reject.

Teddy's Person Jul 14, 2019 • 2:05:09pm

re: #1 MsJ

Interesting indeed. Read it. Thoughts?

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I clicked through to the Lawfare article* linked in the tweet. I thought this bit was interesting.

It is worth noting that in both 1974 and 1998 impeachment proceedings, the House judiciary committee voted to give the president procedural rights in the committee’s deliberations. The president and his counsel were invited to attend all executive session and open committee hearings, and the president’s counsel was entitled to cross-examine witnesses, make objections regarding the pertinence of evidence, respond to the evidence produced and even suggest additional evidence the committee should receive. …

The current judiciary committee would not be bound by precedents to afford the president these same procedural rights, but committees often adhere to precedents unless there is a good reason to deviate. One can imagine President Trump sending Attorney General William Barr, White House counsel Pat Cipollone, White House Special Counsel Emmet Flood or his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani to the House impeachment proceedings to take full advantage of such rights in televised proceedings. He could even show up personally. So while impeachment proceedings do not unlock significant new procedural avenues for the judiciary committee, they could, in theory, afford the president more opportunities to inject himself or his lawyers into the spotlight.

* What Powers Does a Formal Impeachment Inquiry Give the House?

Charmingly Persistent Jul 14, 2019 • 2:07:30pm

re: #6 NO SMOCKING GUN!

And that is why we need an impeachment inquiry with televised testimony.

But don’t they have to vote for it to be an impeachment inquiry? Pelosi doesn’t just declare it, right?

I am all in favor of impeachment. I do think the hearing would result in the public being better informed and Trump losing support. I think we need it because we are in danger of losing our democracy. But … trying and messing it up would be catastrophic.

Decatur Deb Jul 14, 2019 • 2:11:01pm

re: #19 Charmingly Persistent

But don’t they have to vote for it to be an impeachment inquiry? Pelosi doesn’t just declare it, right?

I am all in favor of impeachment. I do think the hearing would result in the public being better informed and Trump losing support. I think we need it because we are in danger of losing our democracy. But … trying and messing it up would be catastrophic.

So save it for the last ditch, after the election if the House survives. The hard work of voting all the scum out is actually faster.

PhillyPretzel Jul 14, 2019 • 2:12:08pm

re: #18 Teddy’s Person

Yes it is interesting.

FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jul 14, 2019 • 2:13:47pm

Unlike the Democratic Congresswomen @realDonaldTrump attacked today, I actually am a foreign-born Member of Congress. But I’m a white male of European descent, so there’s no chance he’ll attack me.

His tantrum has nothing to do with birthplace.

— Jim Himes (@jahimes) July 14, 2019

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 14, 2019 • 2:18:05pm

re: #22 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I actually don’t think he’s making that presumption. Remember, Judge Curiel was “Mexican” even though he was a son of Indiana. For Trump, nonwhite Americans are “from other countries,” no matter where they’re born. https://t.co/Pi56vv54sq

— Eric Levitz (@EricLevitz) July 14, 2019

Decatur Deb Jul 14, 2019 • 2:20:03pm

re: #3 Charmingly Persistent

I have been thinking that we could survive the Senate refusing to remove Trump from office, if it was obviously partisan and out of line. What we absolutely could not survive is the House voting against impeachment. That really would be seen as vindication and game over.

I don’t know if the votes are there. I kind think they aren’t yet.

I think we are slight favorites in 2020 because that’s what’s useful to think. OTOH I’m not sure we could survive a wet cold front in the NE on election day.

Teddy's Person Jul 14, 2019 • 2:20:36pm

re: #21 PhillyPretzel

Yes it is interesting.

What really struck me reading the article is that even if the House said today, let’s impeach. There would still a lot of issues that would need to be settled about how the impeachment process would proceed. Since the Constitution is vague on some details, it feels like everyone is making it up as they go along.

Feline Fearless Leader Jul 14, 2019 • 2:21:28pm

re: #13 Colère Tueur de Lapin

He certainly didn’t do it due to magnanimity. The king exists at the sufferance of his lords.

While at the same time all largesse flows from the monarch. Who, in those pre-nationalism days, was the owner of the country.

Decatur Deb Jul 14, 2019 • 2:22:52pm

re: #26 Feline Fearless Leader

While at the same time all largesse flows from the monarch. Who, in those pre-nationalism days, was the owner of the country.

Fiefs flow downhill.

Ace-o-aces Jul 14, 2019 • 2:24:14pm

I think about that piece every time I see another nytimes column from him. How is he still employed there after making up that ridiculous story of what he imagines uneducated people are like

— Wild Geerters (@classiclib3ral) July 11, 2019

I just looked them up. Padrino means “godfather” and Pomodoro means “tomato” it seems like this place just liked to give cutsie Italian names to their sandwiches. I doubt you need much education to navigate such a restaurant beyond being able to read the menu.

— aceoaces (@aceoaces) July 14, 2019

Feline Fearless Leader Jul 14, 2019 • 2:25:09pm

re: #27 Decatur Deb

Fiefs flow downhill.

Yep. While The Hundred Years War is usually portrayed as France vs England it really was a dynastic struggle between the Plantagenets and Valois.

NO SMOCKING GUN! Jul 14, 2019 • 2:25:47pm

re: #19 Charmingly Persistent

But don’t they have to vote for it to be an impeachment inquiry? Pelosi doesn’t just declare it, right?

I am all in favor of impeachment. I do think the hearing would result in the public being better informed and Trump losing support. I think we need it because we are in danger of losing our democracy. But … trying and messing it up would be catastrophic.

I don’t recall a vote being taken on creating a Benghazi investigation committee.

Teddy's Person Jul 14, 2019 • 2:32:59pm

Warning: Dog whistle alert! Red meat flying!

Lindsay Graham on Fox (Sunday Morning Futures) this morning: “I don’t care if they have to stay in these facilities for 400 days, we’re not going to let those men go that I saw.”

(As many have already commented all over the internet, there’s a reason they publicized brown men in cages.)

Patricia Kayden Jul 14, 2019 • 2:38:17pm

re: #31 Teddy’s Person

Those men are entitled to hearings before judges to determine if their asylum claims are valid. What the hell is Lindsay saying? That they’re not entitled to have their asylum claims adjudicated? Because …?

Decatur Deb Jul 14, 2019 • 2:38:50pm

re: #31 Teddy’s Person

Warning: Dog whistle alert! Red meat flying!

Lindsay Graham on Fox (Sunday Morning Futures) this morning: “I don’t care if they have to stay in these facilities for 400 days, we’re not going to let those men go that I saw.”

(As many have already commented all over the internet, there’s a reason they publicized brown men in cages.)

They were going to send Melania back to see the kids, but her “I Don’t Care” poncho was at the cleaners.

Teddy's Person Jul 14, 2019 • 2:38:51pm

Trump is the best deal maker, yada, yada, yada.

In a statement, Guatemala said the planned meeting between [President] Morales and U.S. President Donald Trump this week had been postponed until the Guatemalan Constitutional Court had ruled on legal challenges. Last week, five former senior officials appealed to the court to block any agreement with the United States that would declare Guatemala a ‘safe third country.’ Source: Reuters

The Pie Overlord! Jul 14, 2019 • 2:40:22pm

President Trump used a well-worn racist trope to attack progressive Democrats on Sunday, using an insult many have had aimed at them. Have you been told to “go back” to your country? We want to hear those stories. https://t.co/e7kvYoa5zD

— The New York Times (@nytimes) July 14, 2019

wrenchwench Jul 14, 2019 • 2:41:27pm

re: #31 Teddy’s Person

Warning: Dog whistle alert! Red meat flying!

Lindsay Graham on Fox (Sunday Morning Futures) this morning: “I don’t care if they have to stay in these facilities for 400 days, we’re not going to let those men go that I saw.”

(As many have already commented all over the internet, there’s a reason they publicized brown men in cages.)

From my limited experience, I believe if you take a few of ‘those men’, give them access to showers and soap, feed ‘em good for several months, and put a uniform on them, they look just like the ones on the outside of the cages.

Teddy's Person Jul 14, 2019 • 2:44:01pm

re: #32 Patricia Kayden

Those men are entitled to hearings before judges to determine if their asylum claims are valid. What the hell is Lindsay saying? That they’re not entitled to have their asylum claims adjudicated? Because …?

The blatant lawlessness of the GOP is frightening.

Joe Bacon 🌹 Jul 14, 2019 • 2:45:02pm

Of course not because Lindsay Graham is a racist!

— The 3-D Zanti Regent (@josephebacon) July 14, 2019

Eclectic Cyborg Jul 14, 2019 • 2:45:03pm

re: #36 wrenchwench

I think about how many talented musicians and writers and mechanics and plumbers and electricians and artists might be in those cages.

Teddy's Person Jul 14, 2019 • 2:48:52pm

re: #36 wrenchwench

From my limited experience, I believe if you take a few of ‘those men’, give them access to showers and soap, feed ‘em good for several months, and put a uniform on them, they look just like the ones on the outside of the cages.

Alternate Lindsay: Give me your desperate refugees yearning to breathe free, and I’ll turn them into your tired, your poor, your huddled masses.

NO SMOCKING GUN! Jul 14, 2019 • 2:50:03pm

re: #39 Eclectic Cyborg

I think about how many talented musicians and writers and mechanics and plumbers and electricians and artists might be in those cages.

And even the ones who would only do the manual labor Americans don’t want to do are precious human beings in their own right, and a benefit to our society.

Teddy's Person Jul 14, 2019 • 2:50:30pm

re: #39 Eclectic Cyborg

I think about how many talented musicians and writers and mechanics and plumbers and electricians and artists might be in those cages.

Or the person who cures cancer, solves climate changes, or figures out what the fuck is on Donald’s head.

NO SMOCKING GUN! Jul 14, 2019 • 2:51:43pm

“Trump’s only true skill is the con; his only fundamental belief is that the United States is the birthright of straight, white, Christian men, and his only real, authentic pleasure is in cruelty.” ––@AdamSerwer https://t.co/JxPBLO8ddp

— Derek DelGaudio (@derek_del) July 14, 2019

wrenchwench Jul 14, 2019 • 2:51:58pm

re: #39 Eclectic Cyborg

I think about how many talented musicians and writers and mechanics and plumbers and electricians and artists might be in those cages.

The rich racists see future Democrats and parents of future Democrats.

Joe Bacon 🌹 Jul 14, 2019 • 2:52:35pm

re: #44 wrenchwench

The ~~rich~~ racists see future Democrats and parents of future Democrats.

More accurate.

MsJ Jul 14, 2019 • 2:53:24pm

re: #39 Eclectic Cyborg

I think about how many talented musicians and writers and mechanics and plumbers and electricians and artists might be in those cages.

The next Steve Jobs.

Ace-o-aces Jul 14, 2019 • 2:57:47pm

Narrator: He was not better than that.

— aceoaces (@aceoaces) July 14, 2019

Barefoot Grin Jul 14, 2019 • 3:00:20pm

re: #2 plansbandc

The Pod Save America guys interviewed Rapinoe, and I highly recommend listening to it.

That was so fun and uplifting!

Patricia Kayden Jul 14, 2019 • 3:00:37pm

re: #47 Ace-o-aces

Geraldo is an idiot. It has been obvious for decades that Trump isn’t better than the pond scum. Please!!

Quoth the raven, Covfefe. Jul 14, 2019 • 3:02:50pm

Evening Lizardim. So my wingnut dad was talking about someone raising the Mexican flag outside of a migrant detention facility - did this actually happen? Looking for some real facts and not Faux News hot takes.

ckkatz Jul 14, 2019 • 3:03:25pm

Beautiful cover of the 1960 Jobim/BossaNova song. Thanks for posting!

This has me looking at other music of theirs.

NO SMOCKING GUN! Jul 14, 2019 • 3:04:12pm

re: #50 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Evening Lizardim. So my wingnut dad was talking about someone raising the Mexican flag outside of a migrant detention facility - did this actually happen? Looking for some real facts and not Faux News hot takes.

Who cares?

NO SMOCKING GUN! Jul 14, 2019 • 3:04:33pm

Trump is the swamp.

— aagcobb (@aagcobb1) July 14, 2019

Quoth the raven, Covfefe. Jul 14, 2019 • 3:04:51pm

re: #52 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Who cares?

You have the same attitude Mrs. Fish does, but honestly, I’d rather speak accurately to my opponents and not just react.

FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jul 14, 2019 • 3:05:46pm

September 20th may be exciting

Feds warns UFO enthusiasts to think twice about storming Area 51: The military “stands ready” https://t.co/IiWh8sDZkK pic.twitter.com/Etsx59qXzr

— The Hill (@thehill) July 14, 2019

ckkatz Jul 14, 2019 • 3:06:23pm

re: #38 Joe Bacon 🌹

Interesting that an attorney and a member of the Senate, which makes the laws of this country should make such a lawless statement.

Barefoot Grin Jul 14, 2019 • 3:06:32pm

re: #49 Patricia Kayden

Geraldo is an idiot. It has been obvious for decades that Trump isn’t better than the pond scum. Please!!

Rivera had a widely-watched expose on the supposed “satanist” crime wave and pedophila panic that ruined the lives of many child-care workers in the 1980s. He was arguably the main contributor to the paranoia.

PhillyPretzel Jul 14, 2019 • 3:07:19pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Yes it will be exciting. The Downton Abbey movie premiers.

Patricia Kayden Jul 14, 2019 • 3:08:17pm

Just a coincidence!! Fake news!!

NO SMOCKING GUN! Jul 14, 2019 • 3:08:32pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

September 20th may be exciting

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It will be interesting to see if any morons actually show up to do this or if almost all the 500k who said they would did so as a joke.

Patricia Kayden Jul 14, 2019 • 3:09:24pm

re: #57 Barefoot Grin

I’m ashamed to confess that I used to religiously watch his talk show. My whole family did. I’d never have guessed that he was such a horrible person. Sigh.

PhillyPretzel Jul 14, 2019 • 3:09:44pm

re: #54 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Is Newsweek good for you? Here is their take on the story.
newsweek.com

Decatur Deb Jul 14, 2019 • 3:11:31pm

re: #50 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Evening Lizardim. So my wingnut dad was talking about someone raising the Mexican flag outside of a migrant detention facility - did this actually happen? Looking for some real facts and not Faux News hot takes.

Once a street action is launched, particularly if not well-marshaled, shit can happen. The suicide pyro attack on one of the detention centers was even more damaging. There is a downside.

Barefoot Grin Jul 14, 2019 • 3:11:32pm

This morning my wife came back from shopping a bit upset. As she was entering the Market Basket a pair of women close behind her said, “those ICE raids are long overdue”; “hell yes.”

If you’ve followed my posts, you’ll know why this was upsetting.

DangerMan Jul 14, 2019 • 3:13:19pm

re: #59 Patricia Kayden

Just a coincidence!! Fake news!!

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While trademarks aren’t nothing
They’re not much if no one wants to buy your shit

Barefoot Grin Jul 14, 2019 • 3:13:31pm

re: #61 Patricia Kayden

I’m ashamed to confess that I used to religiously watch his talk show. My whole family did. I’d never have guessed that he was such a horrible person. Sigh.

He was like all the other “shock journalists,” so maybe it’s unfair to single him out. But most of the rest from those days have either died or been consigned to obscurity. He seems to have found a way to stay in the mix by joining Fox.

wrenchwench Jul 14, 2019 • 3:14:01pm

re: #64 Barefoot Grin

This morning my wife came back from shopping a bit upset. As she was entering the Market Basket a pair of women close behind her said, “those ICE raids are long overdue”; “hell yes.”

If you’ve followed my posts, you’ll know why this was upsetting.

{{{Spouse of a Grin}}}

Patricia Kayden Jul 14, 2019 • 3:14:48pm

re: #66 Barefoot Grin

I also loved Donahue and Oprah. They have their issues but they’re not wingnuts like Geraldo.

NO SMOCKING GUN! Jul 14, 2019 • 3:15:42pm

I recognize it. pic.twitter.com/GcFmErRhOj

— aagcobb (@aagcobb1) July 14, 2019

mmmirele Jul 14, 2019 • 3:17:50pm

re: #39 Eclectic Cyborg

I think about how many talented musicians and writers and mechanics and plumbers and electricians and artists might be in those cages.

Probably more than a few. When Germany was taking in hundreds of thousands of refugees from Syria a couple of years back, I was astonished at the number of former professionals (engineers, doctors, university professors) who had taken their families and fled. These were the people who would talk to English-language reporters, because they knew English. Just because they’re brown and from Guatemala doesn’t mean that they are all day laborers. *scowl*

HappyWarrior Jul 14, 2019 • 3:18:31pm

re: #47 Ace-o-aces

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Is he talking to a child or the President? FFS. Yeah this is who he is.

Barefoot Grin Jul 14, 2019 • 3:19:28pm

re: #68 Patricia Kayden

I also loved Donahue and Oprah. They have their issues but they’re not wingnuts like Geraldo.

Me, too! They were great for a bit of entertainment that usually leaned toward social justice.

HappyWarrior Jul 14, 2019 • 3:21:48pm

re: #72 Barefoot Grin

Me, too! They were great for a bit of entertainment that usually leaned toward social justice.

I remember seeing a clip of Donahue’s Ayn Rand interview in high school philosophy . It pretty much ensured why Objectivism is anathema to my core philosophy.

Blind Frog Belly White Jul 14, 2019 • 3:23:52pm

re: #65 DangerMan

HEY!! DId you see my post to you from yesterday?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe. Jul 14, 2019 • 3:24:50pm

re: #62 PhillyPretzel

Is Newsweek good for you? Here is their take on the story.
newsweek.com

OK. And to be fair - I ‘mean, this is a super-emotionally-charged discussion. I’m pretty conflicted on this specific action; like, taking down the US Flag is serious business to me, but on the other hand… CONCENTRATION CAMPS. How mad can I really be?

ckkatz Jul 14, 2019 • 3:26:24pm

re: #1 MsJ

Interesting indeed. Read it. Thoughts?

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First off, disclaimers,
- no lgf members were involved in the making of the opinion expressed below
- I appreciate the opportunity for honest discussions and appreciate the candor of all posters here

I agree that, no matter how needed, an impeachment attempt now would be a disaster. And I wonder, when looking at some of the twitter calls, “Cui Bono”. I do wonder if any ratf*ckery is involved.

NO SMOCKING GUN! Jul 14, 2019 • 3:27:41pm

re: #75 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

OK. And to be fair - I ‘mean, this is a super-emotionally-charged discussion. I’m pretty conflicted on this specific action; like, taking down the US Flag is serious business to me, but on the other hand… CONCENTRATION CAMPS. How mad can I really be?

Exactly. At a time when we are caging babies and operating concentration camps, how dare we take moral umbrage over a piece of cloth?

ckkatz Jul 14, 2019 • 3:29:24pm

re: #75 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

OK. And to be fair - I ‘mean, this is a super-emotionally-charged discussion. I’m pretty conflicted on this specific action; like, taking down the US Flag is serious business to me, but on the other hand… CONCENTRATION CAMPS. How mad can I really be?

I am assuming that the Faux reporting is an effort at “information war inoculation”. An effort to ensure that their viewers develop a negative opinion of the protests and no interest in further looking at the underlying issues.

NO SMOCKING GUN! Jul 14, 2019 • 3:29:42pm

re: #76 ckkatz

First off, disclaimers,
- no lgf members were involved in the making of the opinion expressed below
- I appreciate the opportunity for honest discussions and appreciate the candor of all posters here

I agree that, no matter how needed, an impeachment attempt now would be a disaster. And I wonder, when looking at some of the twitter calls, “Cui Bono”. I do wonder if any ratf*ckery is involved.

A vote on impeachment now would not be the right way to go. An impeachment inquiry committee however is entirely appropriate to take televised testimony to inform the public and the House.

HappyWarrior Jul 14, 2019 • 3:30:03pm

re: #77 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Exactly. At a time when we are caging babies and operating concentration camps, how dare we take moral umbrage over a piece of cloth?

My thoughts exactly. I care more about how that humanity is being treated than a flag especially when I feel that treatment done in the name of said flag to be against everything it is supposed to stand for.

plansbandc Jul 14, 2019 • 3:30:04pm

re: #77 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The flag is much more important to Republicans than brown people. It’s no contest.

Decatur Deb Jul 14, 2019 • 3:32:53pm

re: #75 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

OK. And to be fair - I ‘mean, this is a super-emotionally-charged discussion. I’m pretty conflicted on this specific action; like, taking down the US Flag is serious business to me, but on the other hand… CONCENTRATION CAMPS. How mad can I really be?

It was such a blatantly stupid thing to do that my first paranoid thought turns towards ratfuckery. Lights for Liberty was a well supported nationwide movement, and now the dipshits of the world get to make this its face.

Patricia Kayden Jul 14, 2019 • 3:34:05pm

HappyWarrior Jul 14, 2019 • 3:34:36pm

re: #83 Patricia Kayden

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She’s of course right.

FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jul 14, 2019 • 3:35:08pm

re: #60 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It will be interesting to see if any morons actually show up to do this or if almost all the 500k who said they would did so as a joke.

Probably a couple hundred.
If they top a thousand or so, I bet they might do something truly stupid

Teddy's Person Jul 14, 2019 • 3:36:55pm

I wish I was more optimistic and could say that the walls are closing in, but Don the Con always seems to skate.

“When I worked on my [2005] book about Trump, Trump regularly talked to me about Jeff Epstein and he felt they had lifestyles that were in synch. But what is happening now with this investigation in the Southern District and they’re going to get access to Jeffrey Epstein’s videos,” said [Tim] O’Brien. Source: Washington Press

O’Brien goes on to say that if Trump did rape 13 year old Jane Doe at Epstein’s townhouse, there’s a good possibility that there’s tape.

plansbandc Jul 14, 2019 • 3:38:45pm

re: #83 Patricia Kayden

I genuinely fear for the safety of these women.

NO SMOCKING GUN! Jul 14, 2019 • 3:39:46pm

Some time ago I warned that the Trump admin might move from targeting illegal immigrants to green card holders to naturalized American citizens to US born citizens with the “wrong” immigrant parents. His tweet telling members of Congress to “go home” suggests this progression.

— Ruth Ben-Ghiat (@ruthbenghiat) July 14, 2019

Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel Jul 14, 2019 • 3:40:33pm

re: #47 Ace-o-aces

Narrator: He was not better than that.

— aceoaces (@aceoaces) July 14, 2019

It would be so perfect if Geraldo covers the Area 51 storming in person.

“Look! There’s a mummified alien!”

“Uh, no, sir. That’s a dead cactus.”

“Oh. But this machine here has to be part of an interplanetary spacecraft.”

“‘Fraid not, sir. That’s the air conditioner compressor from an ‘81 Chevy pickup.”

Barefoot Grin Jul 14, 2019 • 3:42:49pm

re: #88 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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Yeah, this is our existential fear as well.

Decatur Deb Jul 14, 2019 • 3:44:16pm

re: #89 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

It would be so perfect if Geraldo covers the Area 51 storming in person.

“Look! There’s a mummified alien!”

“Uh, no, sir. That’s a dead cactus.”

“Oh. But this machine here has to be part of an interplanetary spacecraft.”

“‘Fraid not, sir. That’s the air conditioner compressor from an ‘81 Chevy pickup.”

Properly managed, this could become Coachella for the Brain-Bent.

HappyWarrior Jul 14, 2019 • 3:44:50pm

re: #88 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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That would make Ann Coulter really happy given her Nuremberg Laws view of citizenship.

wrenchwench Jul 14, 2019 • 3:46:07pm

Javier Calvillo, the director of the Casa del Migrante shelter in Juarez, has seen migrants go through countless hardships over the past nine years, but some things still move him.https://t.co/kFuie0xkNn

— KTSM 9 News (@KTSMtv) July 14, 2019

Good story of the border.

Patricia Kayden Jul 14, 2019 • 3:48:23pm

ICE: “This is a warrant.”

Activist: “No it’s not.”

This citizen stopped ICE from arresting 2 undocumented immigrants because he knew his rights.

As #ICERaids start today, know your legal rights & proceed accordinglypic.twitter.com/i9aGYdf1V2

— Qasim Rashid, Esq. (@QasimRashid) July 14, 2019

Decatur Deb Jul 14, 2019 • 3:50:24pm

re: #94 Patricia Kayden

Yup. That’s the vid deep in VBs offering.

DodgerFan1988 Jul 14, 2019 • 3:52:32pm

Anyone who says the president told members of Congress to go back to where they came from is lying.

He told them to “Then come back and show us how it is done.” pic.twitter.com/7pmb0DNz1c

— Matt Wolking (@MattWolking) July 14, 2019

2 + 2 = 5

Patricia Kayden Jul 14, 2019 • 3:54:37pm

That’s his one accomplishment.

Trump has made it embarrassing to be an American.

— Tony Schwartz (@tonyschwartz) July 14, 2019

Quoth the raven, Covfefe. Jul 14, 2019 • 3:56:11pm

re: #96 DodgerFan1988

2 + 2 = 5

Yeah, because that is SO MUCH BETTER, you fucking complete asstart.

MsJ Jul 14, 2019 • 3:56:55pm

🙄🙄🙄

Is Ilhan Omar an American citizen?

— Nov8Reelection (@4YrsToday) July 14, 2019

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ckkatz Jul 14, 2019 • 3:57:18pm

It is frustrating to see so many people looking straight at Trump’s crimes and blissfully ignoring them.

There is a reason for this.

Humans tell stories about themselves. We call them myths or fairy tales. In the stories there a certain character types/memes that show up over and over again.

One is called the ‘Trickster’. In Greek myths Hermes and Odysseus. In Norse myths, Loki. African myths the Hare/Rabbit and the spider are examples. In US pop culture Bugs Bunny.

The ‘trickster’ character using intelligence, understanding, guile and deceit, ‘playfully’ violates boundaries and rules and resets society on that basis for the greater good. And the trickster always wins at the end of the story.

“The trickster crosses and often breaks both physical and societal rules. Tricksters “…violate principles of social and natural order, playfully disrupting normal life and then re-establishing it on a new basis.”“

His campaign has sold him to his followers as a ‘Trickster’. And a lot of people have bought into it. This has inoculated them against seeing the con as hurting themselves. And this is why they see what is happening but do not register it as crime being committed in front of them.

By the way, the original KKK also sold themselves as tricksters.

en.wikipedia.org

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PhillyPretzel Jul 14, 2019 • 3:58:32pm

re: #99 MsJ

:::sniff::: It won’t let me vote. I have to sign up with twitter.

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NO SMOCKING GUN! Jul 14, 2019 • 3:59:34pm

Whoops, you have mistaken her for Melania.

— aagcobb (@aagcobb1) July 14, 2019

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Dread Pirate Jul 14, 2019 • 4:00:33pm

They keep claiming they support protections for Americans with pre-existing conditions.

But Republicans are cheering for a lawsuit to get rid of them.

Believe what they do. Not what they say. https://t.co/ZFME7J31Xd

— Chuck Schumer (@SenSchumer) July 14, 2019

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NO SMOCKING GUN! Jul 14, 2019 • 4:01:09pm

Stopped a Latino next. Guy showed his ID birth certificate everything. They threw him in the back of a truck. He was legal. Guy said But I’ve got family here. ICE said Don’t worry we’ll get to them soon enough. MF. Streets are empty. We live in a blended neighborhood. Hate this

— Pamela Patriot (@PamelaPatriot) July 14, 2019

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lizardofid Jul 14, 2019 • 4:02:47pm

G’night all!

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches) Jul 14, 2019 • 4:03:20pm

Helluva piece in the NYT Book Review today, on a 1995 novel by WIlliam Gass that has some real insights into what is fueling all the Trump-love amongst the angry blue-collar white midwestern men:

Prophetic. Disturbing. Worse is yet to come.

“… the resentments of his father’s generation — “They were America, damn it, and Americans should come first” — he offers a word of advice to those who have been abandoned by history: “Don’t invest in a future you will never see, a future which will despise you anyway, a future which will find you useless. Pay for your own burial plot. Get the golf clubs out. Die with a tan your daughter’s thighs would envy.” This sense of betrayal, which can shade into vengefulness, leads to a radical strain of politics that Gass later described in an interview: “Fascism is a tyranny which enshrines the values of the lower middle class, even though the lower middle class doesn’t get to rule. It just gets to feel satisfied that the world is well-run. It likes symbols of authority and it likes to dress up. It likes patriotic parades.”

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NO SMOCKING GUN! Jul 14, 2019 • 4:03:24pm

re: #103 Dread Pirate

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LOL Romney hopes his plan is cut down by the courts so the Congress can adopt his plan.

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DodgerFan1988 Jul 14, 2019 • 4:05:49pm

Illegal immigrants kill 4,000 Americans a year

*crickets*

A few illegal immigrants die in government detention because they were deathly ill on their way here

“THIS IS SO INHUMANE, WHY DON’T YOU CARE ABOUT PEOPLE?”

— Kaitlin Bennett (@KaitMarieox) July 14, 2019

Crawl back under the rock from where you came, you fascist slug.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches) Jul 14, 2019 • 4:06:41pm

More here about the common thread that I’ve noted in my midwestern relatives - their seething anger and resentment, the bone-deep convictions that brown/black/gay/intellectual/women have somehow robbed them of their due…

Kohler’s ideal tyrant is modeled on Hitler, but he also looks ahead to the demagogue of the future. “And now the hero comes — the trumpet of his people. And his voice is enlarged like a movie’s lion. He roars, he screams so well for everyone, his tantrums tame a people. He is the Son of God, if God is Resentment. And God is Resentment — a pharaoh for the disappointed people.” Kohler anticipates the role of the media — “TV faces and their blatant lies are now our leaders” — and contemplates the shape of such a man’s life: “Our favorite modern bad guys became villains by serving as heroes first — to millions. It is now a necessary apprenticeship.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jul 14, 2019 • 4:07:54pm

Hello darkness, my old friend…. https://t.co/FHHiXBCB4C

— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) July 14, 2019

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jul 14, 2019 • 4:11:48pm

Bastille Day 2019
Dotard is going to be so freaking pissed off

Fier de notre armée, moderne et innovante. pic.twitter.com/DQvIfPolQf

— Emmanuel Macron (@EmmanuelMacron) July 14, 2019

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Patricia Kayden Jul 14, 2019 • 4:13:07pm

re: #108 DodgerFan1988

I doubt illegal immigrants kill that many Americans each year and even if that’s true, that doesn’t justify the mistreatment of asylum seekers, separation of migrant families and caging of migrant children.

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ckkatz Jul 14, 2019 • 4:13:34pm

re: #111 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That is world class trolling!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe. Jul 14, 2019 • 4:15:22pm

re: #112 Patricia Kayden

I doubt illegal immigrants kill that many Americans each year and even if that’s true, that doesn’t justify the mistreatment of asylum seekers, separation of migrant families and caging of migrant children.

Why would they? Illegal immigrants who commit crimes face a higher likelihood of getting caught and deported. I’m pretty sure the stats show that illegal immigrants are actually LESS likely to commit violent crimes like murder.

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MsJ Jul 14, 2019 • 4:16:54pm

re: #108 DodgerFan1988

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Crawl back under the rock from where you came, you fascist slug.

Gun girl has a new hot topic.

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Patricia Kayden Jul 14, 2019 • 4:21:32pm

How come calling Trump and his 63 million supporters racist is controversial but THE FACT THAT THEY ARE RACIST isn’t? pic.twitter.com/LUVMvTS9Lm

— Hercules Mulligan (@johnvmoore) July 14, 2019

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DodgerFan1988 Jul 14, 2019 • 4:24:54pm

Maybe instead of complaining that our detention centers aren’t up to your standards you shouldn’t enter into our country illegally, wait your turn, apply, and come here the right way

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) July 13, 2019

We’re not mistreating migrants but if we are, then it’s the migrant’s fault!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe. Jul 14, 2019 • 4:27:12pm

re: #117 DodgerFan1988

We’re not mistreating migrants but if we are, then it’s the migrant’s fault!

And for people who are going to die if they “wait [their] turn”? What then, Charlie? Oh, you don’t care? READ THE PARABLE OF THE GOOD FUCKING SAMARITAN AND COME BACK TO ME, ASSHOLE.

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NO SMOCKING GUN! Jul 14, 2019 • 4:27:36pm

here’s the ny times cleaning up trump’s racism.
his racism isn’t racist. its just that democrats *called it* racism.
this isn’t journalism. pic.twitter.com/fUqTm4PtNE

— Oliver Willis (@owillis) July 14, 2019

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach... Jul 14, 2019 • 4:28:54pm

re: #118 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Asking for asylum is legal. End of argument.

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Eclectic Cyborg Jul 14, 2019 • 4:33:18pm

re: #117 DodgerFan1988

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We’re not mistreating migrants but if we are, then it’s the migrant’s fault!

ASYLUM SEEKERS ARE NOT FUCKING COMING HERE ILLEGALLY!!!!

We can NOT let them get away with their redefinition of “illegals”.

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Eclectic Cyborg Jul 14, 2019 • 4:33:47pm

re: #120 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Beat me by that much. :)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe. Jul 14, 2019 • 4:36:45pm

re: #120 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Asking for asylum is legal. End of argument.

I don’t care if it is or isn’t legal. If you’re such an asshole that you will let people DIE because you want them to “wait [their] turn” to get into your country, I think you deserve to burn in hell for all eternity.

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plansbandc Jul 14, 2019 • 4:37:06pm

re: #108 DodgerFan1988

She’s fucking disgusting.

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Interesting Times Jul 14, 2019 • 4:37:09pm

“No one should have their face eaten by a leopard!” says woman whose face was, in fact, eaten and plans to vote for the Leopards Eating People’s Faces party yet again:

Tracy Nuetzi, a white Trump voter in Florida, got caught up by ICE and was mislabeled an immigrant. She spent nearly a year trying to prove she was a US citizen and says no one should be treated like she was. But she plans to vote for Trump again in 2020. https://t.co/bZ1hJnib6p

— Keith Boykin (@keithboykin) July 12, 2019

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wrenchwench Jul 14, 2019 • 4:39:59pm

The soft-sided facility will accommodate 2,500 male and female adult migrants.https://t.co/Li0lBYQKjj

— KTSM 9 News (@KTSMtv) July 13, 2019

‘Soft-sided facility’, sounds so cozy.

When they are found in other countries, they are called ‘tent camps’.

When too many people are put there, it’s a concentration camp.

If it’s a bad reason or a bad tent, one is too many.

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plansbandc Jul 14, 2019 • 4:40:36pm

re: #125 Interesting Times

We cannot combat this kind of stupidity.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe. Jul 14, 2019 • 4:41:59pm

re: #126 wrenchwench

Tornillo: Spanish for “screw”. Seems appropriate.

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plansbandc Jul 14, 2019 • 4:42:33pm

Squirmy seems to be genuinely enjoying the changing of the guard:

Am in London and just saw the Changing of the Guard at Buckingham Palace! 🎺🇬🇧💂‍♀️ pic.twitter.com/aaWlGEHQik

— The Squirmy Worm (@TheSquirmyWorms) July 14, 2019

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe. Jul 14, 2019 • 4:42:42pm

re: #127 plansbandc

We cannot combat this kind of stupidity.

My recommendation? We nuke the site from orbit and take off.

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PhillyPretzel Jul 14, 2019 • 4:42:45pm

re: #125 Interesting Times

She got caught by ICE and is still going to vote for DT? Oy Vey.

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Barefoot Grin Jul 14, 2019 • 4:45:43pm

Kinda like this, though:

Now that Robert Mueller’s testimony has been pushed back a week, it no longer coincides with a “Make America Great Again Rally” in North Carolina, scheduled to be counterprogramming.

How long until the Trump re-election campaign announces another one, for Wednesday, July 24th?

— David Gura (@davidgura) July 14, 2019

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach... Jul 14, 2019 • 4:50:25pm

re: #123 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I don’t care if it is or isn’t legal. If you’re such an asshole that you will let people DIE because you want them to “wait [their] turn” to get into your country, I think you deserve to burn in hell for all eternity.

That too.

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Teddy's Person Jul 14, 2019 • 4:52:05pm

re: #125 Interesting Times

“No one should have their face eaten by a leopard!” says woman whose face was, in fact, eaten and plans to vote for the Leopards Eating People’s Faces party yet again:

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Her ordeal begain when she tried to renew her driver’s license, but the DMV wouldn’t accept her birth certificate and her passport had expired. She was born in Canada to two American parents. Here’s what she had to do to prove she was a citizen:

Nearly a year after she stepped into the motor vehicle agency, Ms. Nuetzi finally got the State Department to review her case, giving her 90 days to compile and send in documentation — including her parents’ marriage license, a letter from her parents and baptism records* from when she was 9. Her mother had to physically obtain another copy of her own birth certificate from her hometown in Kansas. The National Passport Center looked up a census dating back to the 1940s, showing that her grandparents were also born in the U.S.
…
During her ordeal, she thought about contacting the president via Facebook to ask for his personal intervention in her case. She ended up doing it all on her own, but she said she continues to believe Mr. Trump will “make America great again.” She intends to vote for him in 2020. NYT

*such official documentation

I wish the journalist would have followed up and/or included some information about her reasons for still supporting Trump.

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The Pie Overlord! Jul 14, 2019 • 4:54:31pm

re: #111 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Bastille Day 2019
Dotard is going to be so freaking pissed off

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Comment-il dit “hoverboard” en Français?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jul 14, 2019 • 4:56:27pm

re: #129 plansbandc

Squirmy seems to be genuinely enjoying the changing of the guard:

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I think Squirmy is appalled by the officers riding the very large dogs wearing tacky high-visibility jackets

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel Jul 14, 2019 • 4:57:20pm

re: #106 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Helluva piece in the NYT Book Review today, on a 1995 novel by WIlliam Gass that has some real insights into what is fueling all the Trump-love amongst the angry blue-collar white midwestern men:

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”.”Fascism is a tyranny which enshrines the values of the lower middle class,

Truer words were never said. One of the ironic gifts of being poor was the opportunity to see the lower middle class from below, the false certainty, the anger and resentment that flow from the constant fear of a return to the poverty and degradation of their not-too-distant ancestors. You only have to look at a Trump rally to see that they are the beating heart of the Republican Party. Billionaires manipulate them for their own ends, but do not remotely share their values.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jul 14, 2019 • 4:58:15pm

1. Someone notices Juggalo face paint fools facial detection algos
2. The next week Facebook releases Juggalo filter
3. Now they have a labeled dataset of what people look like with face paint off and on
4. Train neural network to identify people trying to hide their identities https://t.co/ooiTzmH18d

— Mark (🦑x engineer) Riedl (@mark_riedl) July 14, 2019

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mmmirele Jul 14, 2019 • 4:58:16pm

I was reading this article about non-binary people trying microdoses of hormones to get their bodies to look more like they see themselves. And it turns out I know one of the people in the article! They work at my evil too big to fail employer in another department on our floor. I see them whenever I’m wandering around outside my group’s locked office.

Here’s the article:

nbcnews.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹 Jul 14, 2019 • 5:03:47pm

re: #125 Interesting Times

“No one should have their face eaten by a leopard!” says woman whose face was, in fact, eaten and plans to vote for the Leopards Eating People’s Faces party yet again:

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Of course she will vote for Trump. She is that stupid.

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Decatur Deb Jul 14, 2019 • 5:04:09pm

re: #126 wrenchwench

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‘Soft-sided facility’, sounds so cozy.

When they are found in other countries, they are called ‘tent camps’.

When too many people are put there, it’s a concentration camp.

If it’s a bad reason or a bad tent, one is too many.

Razor wire is soft.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jul 14, 2019 • 5:07:38pm

🇺🇸⭐️🇺🇸Malcolm’s BACK 🇺🇸⭐️🇺🇸

“It’s all fun and games until this turns into armed violence.”@MalcolmNance #AMJoy pic.twitter.com/9wZGpI4v8i

— La Femme Nikita (@LaF3mm3Nikita) July 14, 2019

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jeffreyw Jul 14, 2019 • 5:09:49pm

Katie went to see what the ruckus was down in the gully. It was Gabe, our dog boy, and a ‘coon.

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jaunte Jul 14, 2019 • 5:11:03pm

re: #43 NO SMOCKING GUN!

“his only real, authentic pleasure is in cruelty.”

Think about how psychotic you have to be to repeat the same bullying act of forcing the people you play golf with to accept your cheating over and over and over and over and over.
It’s The Shining “all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy” levels of insanity.
trumpgolfcount.com

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Decatur Deb Jul 14, 2019 • 5:11:39pm

re: #138 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

1. Someone notices Juggalo face paint fools facial detection algos
2. The next week Facebook releases Juggalo filter
3. Now they have a labeled dataset of what people look like with face paint off and on
4. Train neural network to identify people trying to hide their identities

Eeeeerrrrrrrmmmm. pic.twitter.com/SyOUfOcI67

— Asher Wolf (@Asher_Wolf) July 14, 2019

So we’re OK if we all dress like Kiss?

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The Pie Overlord! Jul 14, 2019 • 5:13:22pm

Can’t you hear the whistle blowing

….and the many terrible things they say about the United States must not be allowed to go unchallenged. If the Democrat Party wants to continue to condone such disgraceful behavior, then we look even more forward to seeing you at the ballot box in 2020!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 15, 2019

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jul 14, 2019 • 5:15:02pm

They’re from America, and you’re right about one thing: Currently their government is a complete and total catastrophe. https://t.co/NvsnFSN8mb

— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) July 14, 2019

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Eclectic Cyborg Jul 14, 2019 • 5:17:26pm

re: #146 The Pie Overlord!

Can’t you hear the whistle blowing

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Show me where in the fucking Constitution it says that any American citizen or resident has to support Israel? I’ll wait.

This constant political dick sucking of that country drives me mad.

I support the Jewish people, don’t get me wrong but because I choose to, not because I am forced to.

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MsJ Jul 14, 2019 • 5:18:06pm

re: #146 The Pie Overlord!

Can’t you hear the whistle blowing

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Stephen Miller wrote that. Way too many big words for trump.

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HappyWarrior Jul 14, 2019 • 5:18:11pm

re: #146 The Pie Overlord!

Can’t you hear the whistle blowing

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He talks a lot about disrespectful behavior but he was the one who was the face of a campaign questioning the last president’: birthright. Something he has and never will apologize for. I really wish his past would catch up with him/

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Teddy's Person Jul 14, 2019 • 5:18:12pm

re: #146 The Pie Overlord!

Can’t you hear the whistle blowing

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This is when the dictionary usually tweets a definition at the dumbass.

Definition of racism. 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. 2a : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles.

Get on it dictionary!

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Skip Intro Jul 14, 2019 • 5:19:16pm

re: #108 DodgerFan1988

SInce her plans for a job with the NRA have dried up she’s decided to move to another branch of the hatred industry.

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HappyWarrior Jul 14, 2019 • 5:19:49pm

Ones opinion on Israel especially under Bibi should never be used to question someone’s love of our country especially coming from a Putin ass puppet.

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The Pie Overlord! Jul 14, 2019 • 5:20:30pm

I know a lot of people in Israel who think Bibi is an asshole.

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HappyWarrior Jul 14, 2019 • 5:22:06pm

re: #154 The Pie Overlord!

I know a lot of people in Israel who think Bibi is an asshole.

Exactly. If Bibi wasn’t such a Trump ass kisser, we’d be hearing from Trump that Israel is ungrateful like we do other allies.

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Charles Johnson Jul 14, 2019 • 5:24:03pm

Here we see a specimen of the North American Raging Racist Asshole in its natural habitat. Look at him, he’s really in a state! Careful not to get too close - you don’t want to get any on ya. https://t.co/jOk1gEy7s2

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 15, 2019

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Dave In Austin Jul 14, 2019 • 5:24:17pm

Is it me or did things take a shitty turn for the worse today?

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The Pie Overlord! Jul 14, 2019 • 5:24:58pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

Exactly. If Bibi wasn’t such a Trump ass kisser, we’d be hearing from Trump that Israel is ungrateful like we do other allies.

Jared is running some kind of ponzi scam in the Middle East and Bibi, MBS & the Emir of Qatar are all in on it.

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HappyWarrior Jul 14, 2019 • 5:25:38pm

re: #157 Dave In Austin

Is it me or did things take a shitty turn for the worse today?

They definitely have. God I hate him and those who enable him either passively or actively.

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HappyWarrior Jul 14, 2019 • 5:26:41pm

re: #158 The Pie Overlord!

Jared is running some kind of ponzi scam in the Middle East and Bibi, MBS & the Emir of Qatar are all in on it.

Yeah foreign policy influence is for sale and Jared is selling it.

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plansbandc Jul 14, 2019 • 5:27:10pm

The U.S. government made an anti-fascism film in 1943. Does it remind you of someone in 2019?#RacistInChief
pic.twitter.com/7x484k7CEQ

— Indigenous Citizen (@citizencaro) July 15, 2019

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Charles Johnson Jul 14, 2019 • 5:29:12pm

Trump’s not getting “more racist” lately. What I think is happening is that his decompensation and sundowning is getting worse, and he’s increasingly unable to maintain his lifetime of facades. I’m sure this is one reason they’re keeping him away from press conferences.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 15, 2019

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Belafon Jul 14, 2019 • 5:29:53pm

re: #138 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Not quite that simple, though. Just put on a different makeup arrangement next time.

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Interesting Times Jul 14, 2019 • 5:30:13pm

I’m just being super honest here.

Nancy Pelosi’s decision to go to the NYT’s Maureen Dowd to bash House freshman pisses me off royally. It angers me. A lot.

Dowd is an enemy. An outright enemy.

Over the last 25 yrs, nearly 75% of Dowd’s columns bashed the Clintons.

1/3

— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) July 11, 2019

Pelosi can’t be both super smart and super dumb at the same time. I believe she is super smart.

She knew exactly what she was doing when she went to an enemy to bash members of her own team.

Turning to enemies to help torch teammates is just disgraceful.

An apology is due.
3/3

— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) July 11, 2019

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Joe Bacon 🌹 Jul 14, 2019 • 5:30:33pm

A very scary thought…

If Trump dies in office the Republicans will make a martyr of him.

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Old Liberal Jul 14, 2019 • 5:31:13pm

re: #81 plansbandc

The flag is much more important to Republicans than brown people. It’s no contest.

Especially the flag of treason

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jul 14, 2019 • 5:31:27pm

OH MY DOG

Get ready for the madness to begin

British actress Lashana Lynch will reportedly become the next 007, the first woman ever to take on the debonair secret agent’s codename. https://t.co/LCiya8trI1

— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) July 14, 2019

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Belafon Jul 14, 2019 • 5:31:58pm

re: #146 The Pie Overlord!

Can’t you hear the whistle blowing

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You continually badmouth over 50% of the population. It’s not them saying the worst stuff, it’s you.

— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) July 15, 2019

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Interesting Times Jul 14, 2019 • 5:32:20pm

re: #165 Joe Bacon 🌹

A very scary thought…

If Trump dies in office the Republicans will make a martyr of him.

That’s the only reason I don’t want him dead. It would be so much better for him to be dragged out in disgrace, lose everything, and die much later in jail.

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HappyWarrior Jul 14, 2019 • 5:32:54pm

re: #161 plansbandc

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Doesn’t get old. The message is timeless.

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jaunte Jul 14, 2019 • 5:33:41pm

Let’s back up. So Trump knew someone was a predator of children and the hero move all his defenders are citing was to throw Epstein out of his dumb club. Not call the police. That’s it. That’s the defense.

— Schooley (@Rschooley) July 15, 2019

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HappyWarrior Jul 14, 2019 • 5:33:57pm

re: #167 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OH MY DOG

Get ready for the madness to begin

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Cool idea but yeah I can hear Piers Morgan crying.

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Teddy's Person Jul 14, 2019 • 5:34:23pm

While Trump takes to Twitter to get his racism on, his chief of staff is a busy little beaver.

Former Tea Party lawmaker Mick Mulvaney, who is on leave from his job as budget director to serve as chief of staff, has largely consolidated power within the administration.
…
Mulvaney’s efforts have been focused on ignoring Trump’s tweeting to focus on slashing governmental regulations. Source: WaPo

In true refusing-to-do-journalism fashion, the article focuses on Mulvaney’s power grab in the West Wing (by now we all get how the free-for-all in the West Wing works) rather than the harm his actions are doing harm to millions of Americans, the environment, and US standing in the world community.

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Belafon Jul 14, 2019 • 5:34:37pm

re: #167 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OH MY DOG

Get ready for the madness to begin

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“Wait. Isn’t she going to be the Little Mermaid, too?!”

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Belafon Jul 14, 2019 • 5:35:05pm

re: #165 Joe Bacon 🌹

A very scary thought…

If Trump dies in office the Republicans will make a martyr of him.

I doubt it. I don’t think they’ll give up Reagan that easily.

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Belafon Jul 14, 2019 • 5:35:51pm

re: #172 HappyWarrior

Cool idea ~~but~~ and yeah I can hear Piers Morgan crying.

FTFY

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HappyWarrior Jul 14, 2019 • 5:36:18pm

re: #175 Belafon

I doubt it. I don’t think they’ll give up Reagan that easily.

Not give up, supplement Reagan with Trump.

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Charles Johnson Jul 14, 2019 • 5:36:27pm

I really liked the first two seasons of “Legion,” but this latest one isn’t doing it for me.

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Barefoot Grin Jul 14, 2019 • 5:36:40pm

re: #164 Interesting Times

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I’d be happier if I knew who hoarse whisperer really is.

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Patricia Kayden Jul 14, 2019 • 5:37:05pm

re: #167 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OH MY DOG

Get ready for the madness to begin

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O-o!! Let the boycotts begin. Bold move.

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Interesting Times Jul 14, 2019 • 5:38:56pm

re: #179 Barefoot Grin

I’d be happier if I knew who hoarse whisperer really is.

Here’s someone non-anonymous saying something similar and more disturbing:

Trump is beholden to foreign backers. When he tries to make the four congresswomen seem un-American, it’s more than just his usual racism — it’s projection.

Now ask why Pelosi seeks to delegitimize them as well, knowing full well this is the tactic the Trump team takes…

— Sarah Kendzior (@sarahkendzior) July 14, 2019

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Patricia Kayden Jul 14, 2019 • 5:40:06pm

First, you stoke hatred and fear of minorities. Then you round them up and put them in camps. Next, you send out raiding parties to get those who have been driven into hiding. The armbands come next right?

— Stephen King (@StephenKing) July 14, 2019

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jul 14, 2019 • 5:41:14pm

re: #172 HappyWarrior

Cool idea but yeah I can hear Piers Morgan crying.

He barely survived this insult to his manhood

Oh 007.. not you as well?!!! #papoose #emasculatedBond pic.twitter.com/cqWiCRCFt3

— Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) October 15, 2018

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jaunte Jul 14, 2019 • 5:41:17pm

re: #181 Interesting Times

Now ask why Pelosi seeks to delegitimize them as well, knowing full well this is the tactic the Trump team takes…

Also, the main Russian destabilization technique is to create internal dissension among their opponents.

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HappyWarrior Jul 14, 2019 • 5:42:12pm

re: #183 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

He barely survived this insult to his manhood

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He’s a delicate one isn’t he?

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Belafon Jul 14, 2019 • 5:42:14pm

re: #163 Belafon

Not quite that simple, though. Just put on a different makeup arrangement next time.

Plus, if they’re generating the images, they could already be using that to train the neural network.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Jul 14, 2019 • 5:43:26pm

re: #167 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I can see the #notmy007 coming….

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teleskiguy Jul 14, 2019 • 5:43:44pm

#NowPlaying The Beatles > Help! > Help! https://t.co/pb9eDPIY6F

— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) July 15, 2019

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Old Liberal Jul 14, 2019 • 5:47:03pm

re: #140 Joe Bacon 🌹

Of course she will vote for Trump. She is that stupid.

Perhaps anyone who voted for drumpf before is so profoundly stupid that it would be impossible to change a mind they don’t have.

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Interesting Times Jul 14, 2019 • 5:48:02pm

re: #184 jaunte

Also, the main Russian destabilization technique is to create internal dissension among their opponents.

Even if I were to accept the theory that Pelosi isn’t moving on impeachment due to a lack of enough Democratic house votes, why on earth does she pile on with condescending nonsense like calling impeachment a “primal pleasure” (as if it’s something people want to do for shits and giggles as opposed to, you know, actual high crimes and misdemeanors) and rattling on about “self-impeachment”? (which is not a thing). Why is she going after four congresswomen of color harder than trump himself?

So far, the evidence sadly points to Kendzior being right yet again.

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Old Liberal Jul 14, 2019 • 5:48:04pm

re: #144 jaunte

Think about how psychotic you have to be to repeat the same bullying act of forcing the people you play golf with to accept your cheating over and over and over and over and over.
It’s The Shining “all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy” levels of insanity.
trumpgolfcount.com

It’s like dinner with Mitt Romney. It’s the humiliation

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 Jul 14, 2019 • 5:51:12pm

re: #187 Eric The Fruit Bat

I can see the #notmy007 coming….

Lashana Lynch Cast As New 007 In Bond 25, But Daniel Craig Is Still James Bond | #NotMy007 #Bond25 #GetWokeGoBroke https://t.co/gsjPNxMhys

— One Angry Gamer (@OneAngryGamerHD) July 15, 2019

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The Pie Overlord! Jul 14, 2019 • 5:53:24pm

re: #167 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OH MY DOG

Get ready for the madness to begin

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I wanted Idris Elba :(

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe. Jul 14, 2019 • 5:57:09pm

re: #192 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Female Doctor, female 007… What are the immigration laws for the UK? Sucks that they have to be going through Brexit, though.

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Eclectic Cyborg Jul 14, 2019 • 6:01:08pm

re: #193 The Pie Overlord!

I wanted Idris Elba :(

Same.

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Eclectic Cyborg Jul 14, 2019 • 6:01:42pm

re: #194 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Female Doctor, female 007… What are the immigration laws for the UK? Sucks that they have to be going through Brexit, though.

Brexit could make a fun backdrop for a Bond story.

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I Would Prefer Not To Jul 14, 2019 • 6:02:10pm

I used to do photography in the ancient days with something called film.

Borrowed a digital camera and took a pic from backyard. I’m on Jamaica Bay across from JFK. In summer, I often watch the sunset over Lower/Midtown Manhattan and think I’m a very lucky man to have this.

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jaunte Jul 14, 2019 • 6:02:28pm

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

“James Bond, Relic of Empire.”

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Decatur Deb Jul 14, 2019 • 6:02:29pm

re: #157 Dave In Austin

Is it me or did things take a shitty turn for the worse today?

Dunno. Scores aren’t in yet.

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Decatur Deb Jul 14, 2019 • 6:04:20pm

re: #193 The Pie Overlord!

I wanted Idris Elba :(

Scarlet Johansson is free.

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Old Liberal Jul 14, 2019 • 6:13:24pm

I’m sure I’m not the only one but I’ll share a quick story. Back in 2013 my now ex-wife’s daughter was an executive at a private food company in Minnesota that supplied Walmart and others. All their production workers were illegal. Hired through a “temp service”. Would totally change out on January 1 each year. The owner got rich and of course voted Republican. Republicans are vile lying sacks.

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BigPapa Jul 14, 2019 • 6:13:40pm

re: #200 Decatur Deb

Scarlet Johansson is free.

She can play an animal
or a tree

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe. Jul 14, 2019 • 6:13:52pm

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

Brexit could make a fun backdrop for a Bond story.

Could also make an interesting crossover for Doctor Who and James Bond, actually.

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Charles Johnson Jul 14, 2019 • 6:16:15pm

Trying so hard to believe there’s a plan behind what the Democrat leaders are doing.

I’m really trying.

Despite my sinking feeling there isn’t.

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Patricia Kayden Jul 14, 2019 • 6:16:36pm

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Decatur Deb Jul 14, 2019 • 6:19:41pm

re: #202 BigPapa

She can play an animal
or a tree

Mermaid?

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Rightwingconspirator Jul 14, 2019 • 6:20:13pm

re: #204 Charles Johnson

Trying so hard to believe there’s a plan behind what the Democrat leaders are doing.

I’m really trying.

Despite my sinking feeling there isn’t.

Two thoughts. Part of the problem is we the people are not pushing hard enough. Or perhaps more to the point get out ahead, in numbers and pull them along. Then wait and see what happens with the early California primary season.

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Dave In Austin Jul 14, 2019 • 6:21:07pm

Endorsement……

Get a hold of yourself, @ConanOBrien. Besides, @ewarren has a plan for that. Senator? https://t.co/HCGNiLk6uE

— Eric Swalwell (@ericswalwell) July 14, 2019

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teleskiguy Jul 14, 2019 • 6:21:36pm

re: #202 BigPapa

She can play an animal
or a tree

The Silence of the Lambs (4/12) Movie CLIP - All Good Things to Those Who Wait (1991) HD

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Decatur Deb Jul 14, 2019 • 6:22:19pm

re: #204 Charles Johnson

The Dem plan is to try to contain the cannibalistic feeding frenzy until 2020. It’s not working so far.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 14, 2019 • 6:33:31pm

Do we name gutters and sewer lines? https://t.co/lqiypxxNck

— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) July 15, 2019

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel Jul 14, 2019 • 6:34:13pm

Here’s something for my fellow lib gun nuts (a species RWNJs believe does not exist. Let them think it)

France’s Elite GIGN Counter Terror Unit Still Has A Cult-Like Affinity For The Revolver

The Groupe d’Intervention de la Gendarmerie Nationale, better known by its abbreviated name GIGN, which translates to National Gendarmerie Intervention Group in English, remains France’s premier counter-terrorism and hostage rescue unit. Since its founding shortly after the terrorist acts in Munich in 1973, GIGN has risen to prominence among the world’s counter-terrorism community. But one piece of gear in particular not only differentiates the unit from others, but it is also deeply ingrained in its lore and tradition—the revolver, and in particular, the French-built Manurhin MR73.

I still have a thing for revolvers. As a deputy sheriff back when dinosaurs roamed the Earth (ca. 1979) I was issued an actual Colt Python, 6” barrel no less. I still think it was the best police gun ever made. It only holds 6 shots though, which seems completely unacceptable in this age of overwhelming, tsunami-of-lead firepower. These days, my working hog-defense gun is a Ruger Super-Blackhawk, .44 Magnum. This is also a 6-shooter. Enormous magazine capacity is no advantage for this purpose, since I would only get one shot at a charging boar and the gun better damn well work.

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Decatur Deb Jul 14, 2019 • 6:34:41pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

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There’s a really yuuge landfill along the Jersey Turnike.

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Dave In Austin Jul 14, 2019 • 6:35:13pm

Sez Butt-hurt Bernie-Girrrrl.#NeverBernie

Never forget. “The Bird” was just thirsty.

— 🦈E-Mail Terminator🦈 (@DaveoutofAustin) July 15, 2019

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Patricia Kayden Jul 14, 2019 • 6:36:37pm

Sometimes I wonder if this is really @KellyannePolls pretending to be her husband, so when she leaves she can make millions with a tell-all book exposing the truth…

Nah, she’s evil. https://t.co/GBUmfxAURx

— I’M ON AN ISLAND (@nopedontwanna13) July 14, 2019

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teleskiguy Jul 14, 2019 • 6:38:28pm

re: #212 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

It’s been years since I’ve shot pistols. But I always loved shooting my friends’ revolvers more than their semi-autos. Sure, fast as you can pull the trigger! BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM! But there was something about a double action revolver that made the shooting more fun and disciplined. And a .44 Magnum with a long barrel? Vincent Vega in Pulp Fiction called a .357 Magnum a “hand cannon,” and that’s an accurate description when shooting a pistol like that.

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Dave In Austin Jul 14, 2019 • 6:38:39pm

pic.twitter.com/joQAUVtbKp

— Possum Every Hour (@PossumEveryHour) July 14, 2019

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William Lewis Jul 14, 2019 • 6:39:28pm

re: #212 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Here’s something for my fellow lib gun nuts (a species RWNJs believe does not exist. Let them think it)

France’s Elite GIGN Counter Terror Unit Still Has A Cult-Like Affinity For The Revolver

I still have a thing for revolvers. As a deputy sheriff back when dinosaurs roamed the Earth (ca. 1979) I was issued an actual Colt Python, 6” barrel no less. I still think it was the best police gun ever made. It only holds 6 shots though, which seems completely unacceptable in this age of overwhelming, tsunami-of-lead firepower. These days, my working hog-defense gun is a Ruger Super-Blackhawk, .44 Magnum. This is also a 6-shooter. Enormous magazine capacity is no advantage for this purpose, since I would only get one shot at a charging boar and the gun better damn well work.

I miss my S&W 625 Mountain Gun in .45LC.

I hope to pick up a 357 4” barrel revolver yet this summer as i miss going to the range and making wadcutter holes.

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Patricia Kayden Jul 14, 2019 • 6:40:29pm

Trump not owning a dog was the first warning btw

— Desus Nice (@desusnice) July 14, 2019

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jul 14, 2019 • 6:42:10pm

You are home. You are home. You are home. You are home. You are home. You are home. You are home. You are home. You are home. You are home. You are home. You are home. You are home. You are home. You are home. You are home.
CC: @IlhanMN @AOC @RashidaTlaib @AyannaPressley

— Eric Swalwell (@ericswalwell) July 14, 2019

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel Jul 14, 2019 • 6:42:20pm

re: #212 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Colt Python 6” (regrettably not mine)

Ruger Super-Blackhawk Hunter 7.5 (same as mine except grips)

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teleskiguy Jul 14, 2019 • 6:43:33pm

TIL that tectonic plates move at roughly the rate that fingernails grow.

Or as our host @mikamckinnon put it, “every time you cut your nails, we’re one step closer to an earthquake.” #scifoo

— Ben Fry (@ben_fry) July 14, 2019

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Dave In Austin Jul 14, 2019 • 6:44:18pm

re: #218 William Lewis

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William Lewis Jul 14, 2019 • 6:47:22pm

re: #221 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Honestly, I never have liked Colt revolvers; I dislike their DA trigger and far prefer a nice Smith K or N frame. Though I will be happy if i am even afford a Taurus M65 at this point. I’m on a low budget…

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Dave In Austin Jul 14, 2019 • 6:51:17pm

Lindsey Graham is an especially vile and detestable human being. https://t.co/J0KS7I5NAE

— David R•lst•n (@dr0lst0n) July 15, 2019

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Dave In Austin Jul 14, 2019 • 7:05:42pm

pic.twitter.com/LpwcpwhIOU

— Possum Every Hour (@PossumEveryHour) July 15, 2019

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teleskiguy Jul 14, 2019 • 7:06:47pm

This is my favorite Nine Inch Nails song.

attn: lawhawk

#NowPlaying Nine Inch Nails > Hesitation Marks > Copy of a https://t.co/TCS2dNkfbX

— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) May 5, 2019

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Citizen K Jul 14, 2019 • 7:11:35pm

I’ve pretty much lost faith in the House Dems doing anything at this point. And the thing is, I’m actually pretty sympathetic to the worries of fast tracking impeachment proceedings for reasons that have already been explained: the lack of public understanding of what impeachment actually means, the a la carte nature of TV and news nowadays working against attempts at grand proceedings, especially notable in how people are demanding the HOuse Dems pass bills on stuff they’ve already passed bills on and the like, and the problem of animating a backlash once the Senate and McConnell shuts it down as soon as it even starts.

But something has to be done, some kind of message has to be sent, we have to stop being afraid of the backlash of people who weren’t going to be voting Dem anyways, including the people who would be driven off by ‘overreach’ if Impeachment happened because face it, they’re the kind already giving Trump the benefit of the doubt he doesn’t deserve. We have to send a message that Trump cannot do this, that there’s some kind of check on him, because as it is now, he and the GOP are all kinds of emboldened. And if they can’t do this, the HOuse is kind of just showing how utterly subservient to the Senate it is, that it isn’t even an equal part of Congress much less an equal branch of the gov’t. Yes, it’d be symbolic, but symbolic gestures have purpose too, and right now, the lack of action on actually holding Trump accountable is depressing the part of the population most likely to come out for Dems and vote for the all important down-ticket races that are key. Yes, the presidency is important, but holy shit, we need the Senate too out of anything else. We need a population willing to vote for Dems because they see Dems as willing to act as the check on the Republicans.

I’m sympathetic to the calculus, I really am. Pelosi’s job is not an easy one, and there’s so much to juggle. Politics can be like herding cats at times. But we’re dangerously close to losing the Republic wholesale without even trying to fire a shot. it feels like Pelosi’s approach is relying too much on a process that’s already shown itself to be perverted for the sake of preserving ‘civility’ at the expense of action, a process that assumes too much good will to properly fight back against weaponized bad faith.

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Dave In Austin Jul 14, 2019 • 7:19:57pm

me when my hot friends want to take a group photo pic.twitter.com/iIChTan2Yk

— nevona (@nevona) July 15, 2019

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I Would Prefer Not To Jul 14, 2019 • 7:21:03pm

re: #228 Citizen K

I’ve pretty much lost faith in the House Dems doing anything at this point. And the thing is, I’m actually pretty sympathetic to the worries of fast tracking impeachment proceedings for reasons that have already been explained: the lack of public understanding of what impeachment actually means, the a la carte nature of TV and news nowadays working against attempts at grand proceedings, especially notable in how people are demanding the HOuse Dems pass bills on stuff they’ve already passed bills on and the like, and the problem of animating a backlash once the Senate and McConnell shuts it down as soon as it even starts.

But something has to be done, some kind of message has to be sent, we have to stop being afraid of the backlash of people who weren’t going to be voting Dem anyways, including the people who would be driven off by ‘overreach’ if Impeachment happened because face it, they’re the kind already giving Trump the benefit of the doubt he doesn’t deserve. We have to send a message that Trump cannot do this, that there’s some kind of check on him, because as it is now, he and the GOP are all kinds of emboldened. And if they can’t do this, the HOuse is kind of just showing how utterly subservient to the Senate it is, that it isn’t even an equal part of Congress much less an equal branch of the gov’t. Yes, it’d be symbolic, but symbolic gestures have purpose too, and right now, the lack of action on actually holding Trump accountable is depressing the part of the population most likely to come out for Dems and vote for the all important down-ticket races that are key. Yes, the presidency is important, but holy shit, we need the Senate too out of anything else. We need a population willing to vote for Dems because they see Dems as willing to act as the check on the Republicans.

I’m sympathetic to the calculus, I really am. Pelosi’s job is not an easy one, and there’s so much to juggle. Politics can be like herding cats at times. But we’re dangerously close to losing the Republic wholesale without even trying to fire a shot. it feels like Pelosi’s approach is relying too much on a process that’s already shown itself to be perverted for the sake of preserving ‘civility’ at the expense of action, a process that assumes too much good will to properly fight back against weaponized bad faith.

This.

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Ace-o-aces Jul 14, 2019 • 7:26:07pm

pic.twitter.com/TCO8nADrWm

— aceoaces (@aceoaces) July 15, 2019

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Barefoot Grin Jul 14, 2019 • 7:33:32pm

re: #181 Interesting Times

Here’s someone non-anonymous saying something similar and more disturbing:

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I like Sarah and take her seriously. But I’m more than a little conflicted about this.

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Hecuba's daughter Jul 14, 2019 • 7:45:39pm

Pelosi is in a very difficult position: the 4 congresswomen that Trump maligned are an essential part of the Democratic base — but they aren’t the reason that Pelosi is now Speaker; these women all succeeded Democrats in safe Democratic districts. Pelosi is Speaker because dozens of purple or red districts elected a Democrat. She will not remain Speaker if she appeals only to the most progressive members of her caucus. The majority of the population is not yet behind impeachment. The situation is so different from the 1970’s when the Democrats had total control of Congress — and the Republicans in Congress still believed in the Constitution, instead of actively working to sabotage any serious investigation into Trump’s malfeasance.

I retain faith in her and her political knowledge and experience, which far exceed anything that we here possess. Let’s see how things develop over the next few weeks.

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