Foxtails Brigade - “We Are Not Ourselves”

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Because things are not always what we expect, here’s another song by Laura Weinbach with her band Foxtails Brigade that goes to a very different place.

FOXTAILS BRIGADE IS:
Laura Weinbach
Anton Patzner
Dominic Mercurio
Josh Pollock
Joe Lewis
Alex Weston

If you like this video and wanna contribute to us making more, VISIT OUR NEW PATREON PAGE HERE:
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GET THE ALBUM featuring “We Are Not Ourselves” on OIM Records HERE:
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UPCOMING TOUR DATES HERE:
foxtailsbrigade.com.com

MORE FUN STUFF HERE:
foxtailsbrigade.com

Written, Directed & Edited by Dominic Mercurio
Produced by Laura Weinbach
Director of Photography - Matthew Rome
Assistant Camera - Vincent Cortez
Steadicam Operator - Joe Lindsay
Gaffer - Chris Galdes
Best Boy Electric - Lorenzo Pace
Key Grip - Ryan Mosley
Best Boy Grip - Clay Kerri
Art Director - Laura Weinbach
Production Design - Jon Weston
Production Assistant - Anton Patzner

Special thanks to Edge City for providing all the rad taxidermy, OIM Records (Sara Sexton, Angelica Tavella, and Jeff Saltzman), Alex Oubre, and Anton Patzner.

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372 comments

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 14, 2019 • 7:27:53pm

First they came for the lizards, then they came for the Lizard People…

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 14, 2019 • 7:28:04pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2019 • 7:29:41pm
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Mike Lamb  Jul 14, 2019 • 7:32:40pm

Shorter Lindsey Graham: We are holding the men until they develop a full blown case of Stockholm Syndrome.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 14, 2019 • 7:32:52pm

Perfect timing for impeachment keeps bringing back to CCR

Creedence Clearwater Revival: Someday Never Comes

Well, I’m here to tell you now, each and every mother’s son
That you better learn it fast, you better learn it young
‘Cause someday never comes

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Citizen K  Jul 14, 2019 • 7:36:08pm

Figure this is worth repeating here, since it got caught at the tail end of the last thread, but…:

I’ve pretty much lost faith in the House Dems doing anything at this point. And the thing is, I’m actually pretty sympathetic to the worries of fast tracking impeachment proceedings for reasons that have already been explained: the lack of public understanding of what impeachment actually means, the a la carte nature of TV and news nowadays working against attempts at grand proceedings, especially notable in how people are demanding the HOuse Dems pass bills on stuff they’ve already passed bills on and the like, and the problem of animating a backlash once the Senate and McConnell shuts it down as soon as it even starts.

But something has to be done, some kind of message has to be sent, we have to stop being afraid of the backlash of people who weren’t going to be voting Dem anyways, including the people who would be driven off by ‘overreach’ if Impeachment happened because face it, they’re the kind already giving Trump the benefit of the doubt he doesn’t deserve. We have to send a message that Trump cannot do this, that there’s some kind of check on him, because as it is now, he and the GOP are all kinds of emboldened. And if they can’t do this, the HOuse is kind of just showing how utterly subservient to the Senate it is, that it isn’t even an equal part of Congress much less an equal branch of the gov’t. Yes, it’d be symbolic, but symbolic gestures have purpose too, and right now, the lack of action on actually holding Trump accountable is depressing the part of the population most likely to come out for Dems and vote for the all important down-ticket races that are key. Yes, the presidency is important, but holy shit, we need the Senate too out of anything else. We need a population willing to vote for Dems because they see Dems as willing to act as the check on the Republicans.

I’m sympathetic to the calculus, I really am. Pelosi’s job is not an easy one, and there’s so much to juggle. Politics can be like herding cats at times. But we’re dangerously close to losing the Republic wholesale without even trying to fire a shot. it feels like Pelosi’s approach is relying too much on a process that’s already shown itself to be perverted for the sake of preserving ‘civility’ at the expense of action, a process that assumes too much good will to properly fight back against weaponized bad faith.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 14, 2019 • 7:45:09pm
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jaunte  Jul 14, 2019 • 7:46:07pm

re: #1 The Pie Overlord!

Growing up in Venezuela, one of my housekeeping tasks was to regularly pry bloody iguanas from the jaws of our German shepherd, who took great joy in hunting them when they dropped out of the trees.

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2019 • 7:47:35pm

Probably wasn’t very sanitary.

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2019 • 7:48:14pm

Kismet!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 14, 2019 • 7:54:22pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:02:23pm

I was out for a walk today. It was too damn hot, so I stood in the shade and watched some birbs. I turned and looked at the house across the street, and saw a lizard on the wall. I was pretty sure it was a lizard. Snakes can’t go up and down a wall like the lizard did, into and out of the sun. It came to rest in the shade, looking down the wall at the sunny part.

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:04:57pm

re: #12 wrenchwench

The oppressive heat is upon thy poor swealtering souls down there on the edge of the Sonora.

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:06:17pm

And the Sonora!

Pheonix, 102 ° F and the sun is down.

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wrenchwench  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:08:48pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

The oppressive heat is upon thy poor swealtering souls down there on the edge of the Sonora.

We had a tease of clouds today. They were beautiful, but released none of their bounty upon those below.

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:08:51pm

Ha:

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Mike Lamb  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:09:11pm

re: #14 teleskiguy

And the Sonora!

Pheonix, 102 ° F and the sun is down.

It will be in the 90’s until past midnight.

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:12:10pm

re: #15 wrenchwench

We had a tease of clouds today. They were beautiful, but released none of their bounty upon those below.

Air too dry at the surface.

Water, water…

Giphy

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:18:26pm

Sure Trump sucks farts out of dead rats, but I don’t recall the Bush administration being any better.

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:18:40pm

Because of a couple of things, including Barry, the DFW area was at 82F at 2pm today. We were in the mid 90s last week.

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:18:52pm

re: #12 wrenchwench

I was out for a walk today. It was too damn hot, so I stood in the shade and watched some birbs. I turned and looked at the house across the street, and saw a lizard on the wall. I was pretty sure it was a lizard. Snakes can’t go up and down a wall like the lizard did, into and out of the sun. It came to rest in the shade, looking down the wall at the sunny part.

My wife and I spent a few days in Cliff at the guesthouse of one of her acquaintances during the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings. I amused myself by seeing how many lizards I could find perching themselves along the outer walls of the bungalow.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:26:19pm

A cool interview with recording engineer Richard Lush about working at EMI with some obscure Liverpool garage band called The Beatles…

Richard Lush talks about working with The Beatles on their landmark Sgt Pepper’s album

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Dread Pirate  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:27:15pm
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mmmirele  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:28:46pm

re: #14 teleskiguy

And the Sonora!

Pheonix, 102 ° F and the sun is down.

Yep, it was 109 when I was out picketing the cult. I drank lots of water and stayed only 35 minutes.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:28:54pm

WTF

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:29:48pm

Right, I’m a secret anti-Democratic troll trying to undermine the party.

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:33:34pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

Right, I’m a secret anti-Democratic troll trying to undermine the party.

You’re one of my intermediaries W.R.T. the Soros checks. I thank you for your deep connections with the globalist elites.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:33:52pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

Right, I’m a secret anti-Democratic troll trying to undermine the party.

I was going to do an entry on subjective and objective genitives and what they look like in English, which has lost almost all of its declensions, but I’ll spare you.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:36:19pm

and people wonder why I’m depressed.

Night people.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:41:44pm

now i’m really going to sleep

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Dread Pirate  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:42:51pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:46:39pm
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Dread Pirate  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:47:20pm
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DodgerFan1988  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:48:55pm
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Dave In Austin  Jul 14, 2019 • 8:59:36pm
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Belafon  Jul 14, 2019 • 9:26:49pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

WTF

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With the GOP the way it is, I understand her comment. No ones the worse for it. She’s a lot more polite than how we rib people at work for making silly mistakes.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 14, 2019 • 9:29:25pm

Some alt-right heads are going to explode; the new 007 is both female and black!

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2019 • 9:31:16pm

re: #33 Dread Pirate

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 14, 2019 • 9:45:06pm
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Dave In Austin  Jul 14, 2019 • 9:47:24pm
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sagehen  Jul 14, 2019 • 9:59:54pm

re: #40 Dave In Austin

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At my Sunday School and Bas Mitzvah prep, we were taught that “God’s Plan(tm)” was to give every human a mind of their very own, and free will, and then to watch what we do with them.

If we, individually or collectively, use those brains and free will to do horrible, despicable things, it will make God very sad. If we use them well, it will make him happy. The results of our choices are not him punishing or rewarding us, it’s just cause and effect at work.

Either way, he’s not going to interfere. Because that’s the whole point of free will. And he’s not a micro-manager.

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piratedan  Jul 14, 2019 • 10:21:39pm

re: #24 mmmirele

dropped to 68 after the monsoon thunderstorms rolled thru…. at least here in Tucson…

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 14, 2019 • 10:24:35pm

re: #40 Dave In Austin

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 14, 2019 • 10:35:17pm

Now this is a quality Easter egg.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 14, 2019 • 10:42:01pm

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Dread Pirate  Jul 14, 2019 • 11:22:41pm
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Dread Pirate  Jul 14, 2019 • 11:30:47pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 14, 2019 • 11:54:30pm
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Dread Pirate  Jul 15, 2019 • 12:33:18am

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Dread Pirate  Jul 15, 2019 • 12:35:06am
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 15, 2019 • 1:18:36am
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John Hughes  Jul 15, 2019 • 1:54:47am

re: #11 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Guardian headline:

‘Go back home’: Trump aims racist attack at Ocasio-Cortez and other congresswomen

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 15, 2019 • 3:00:35am

re: #37 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Some alt-right heads are going to explode; the new 007 is both female and black!

They already have.

All sorts of whining going on about this move.

It should be noted though that there isn’t really much info on what the new actresses’ script will be in the next Bond role. She could show up in a transition scene.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 15, 2019 • 3:14:52am
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Amory Blaine  Jul 15, 2019 • 3:30:30am

I wish they would have compelled Mueller to testify after labor day. I am chomping at the bit to get this shit started, but america doesn’t give a fuck in the summer. Mueller’s testimony is premature unless they intend on bringing him back. Pelosi may be waiting til fuckbrain merica is back in front of the tv for fall. At least this is what I hope, but judging how dems fucked up holding Bush and co. responsible for the blatant lies I ain’t holding my breath.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2019 • 3:34:55am

re: #51 Patricia Kayden

I’d almost forgotten about Greg Stillson. One of King’s more memorable villains.

Yeah, Trump definitely has that Greg Stillson vibe to him.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 3:44:13am

re: #54 Barefoot Grin

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The scary thing is we elected that guy President. Yeah I know Russia and all that but that he was nominated and that it was close enough to rig. That’s what gets me and always will. The acceptance and support of fascism in the name of America.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 3:46:14am

re: #47 Dread Pirate

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What created ISIS in the first place was the invasion of Iraq, you lackey.

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ckkatz  Jul 15, 2019 • 3:50:11am

Tweet from Representative Jackie Speier:

This line particularly caught my eye:
“Flu, meningitis, typhus, lice & more”
These are the diseases of concentration camps

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A Mom Anon  Jul 15, 2019 • 3:51:51am

Ken Burns has a good question for conservatives (via esquire.com, I can’t get it to link on my phone)….

What part of Donald Trump reminds you of Jesus Christ?

I want to also see them site Scripture to back it up.

Yeah, I know, these fucking people are willing to throw themselves into raw sewage with a spoon for this shitmuffin, but let’s get them on the record.

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jeffreyw  Jul 15, 2019 • 3:53:50am

Good morning!

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ckkatz  Jul 15, 2019 • 3:56:00am

re: #49 Dread Pirate

Thanks for posting the Janis Joplin album!

It’s 6:53AM here on the East Coast and I am working at my computer with that album blasting out. I haven’t listened to Janis Joplin songs for many years.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 15, 2019 • 4:04:22am

At this point I’m not above throwing what they say and do back at them. Publicly and outside the political realm. Don’t just throw the wingnut out of the restaurant or bar, play unedited video of their bullshit right in their faces on all the TVs in the place and then run them off. See them anywhere, confront them with their words and deeds. They’ve left a trail of shitmuffin crumbs all over the internet, play their shit back at them loud and in public. It’s not going to change that wingnut, but it lets everyone around them know who they are.

This cultural meanness we’re experiencing is a result, in part ,of no one paying any kind of a social price for being a shitty human being. While some people may not be able to experience shame, it’s a public service to let people know a neighbor or PTA member is a Nazi supporting fascist piece of shit. YMMV of course and you have to proceed thoughtfully while doing shit like this.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 4:09:58am

re: #55 Amory Blaine

I wish they would have compelled Mueller to testify after labor day. I am chomping at the bit to get this shit started, but america doesn’t give a fuck in the summer. Mueller’s testimony is premature unless they intend on bringing him back. Pelosi may be waiting til fuckbrain merica is back in front of the tv for fall. At least this is what I hope, but judging how dems fucked up holding Bush and co. responsible for the blatant lies I ain’t holding my breath.

Mueller should have been before Congress within days of the Report’s release. They should have requested his testimony and (if necessary) subpoenaed it if he had refused. And if Barr tried to block him from appearing, House Dems should have raised all sorts of hell over it.

If we want the public to this whole matter seriously, then we have to look like we’re taking it seriously. By treating it like a “very special episode” of some court room drama that we’re saving for Sweeps Week, we’re sacrificing valuable time and giving the WH breathing room to dull the shock. And if his testimony ends up (as I worry it will be) as another dull thud rather than an earth-shattering kaboom, then the delay will only further the perception that the Dems are slow-walking an investigation they have no faith in.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 4:23:16am

That stupid, decades-old conservative trope “well when are you going to take in a migrant into your home” gets an answer on Twitter (with over ten thousand comments):

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 4:25:02am

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹

That stupid, decades-old conservative trope “well when are you going to take in a migrant into your home” gets an answer on Twitter (with over ten thousand comments):

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Do they take care of the veterans they profess to venerate?

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steve_davis  Jul 15, 2019 • 4:26:16am

re: #5 I Would Prefer Not To

Perfect timing for impeachment keeps bringing back to CCR

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Well, I’m here to tell you now, each and every mother’s son
That you better learn it fast, you better learn it young
‘Cause someday never comes

interesting to note that they all apparently hated John’s guts towards the end.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 4:27:40am

Yoni Appelbaum at The Atlantic on Trump’s wildly racist conservative dog whistle of “go back to your own country” tweets yesterday.

Trump Should Go Back to Where He Came From (more at the link):

He grew up in Queens, one of New York City’s five boroughs. In 1971, he fled his native county, leaving behind a community wracked by violence, strife, and corruption, crossing the water in search of greater opportunity and a better life in Manhattan. But Trump seems to have brought the very worst aspects of his native political culture along with him.

Consider the political leadership of Queens the year Trump crossed the East River. Donald Manes was elected Queens borough president in 1971. He killed himself in 1986, after being implicated in a massive kickback scheme, in which associates were trading political appointments and other favors for cash.

The man who aided Manes’s rise, a lawyer and politician named Matthew Troy, secured the post of Queens Democratic Party boss in 1971. He’d later plead guilty to taking $37,000 from his clients’ estates and concealing the income on his 1972 tax forms.

But Troy and Manes weren’t corrupting Queens; they were simply abiding by the indigenous political culture. In 1988, Troy delivered a talk to law students taking a class titled “Corruption and Integrity in Government” that offers a bracing look at the culture in which Trump came of age.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 4:27:49am

re: #66 HappyWarrior

Do they take care of the veterans they profess to venerate?

As I’ve noted before, they only have two uses for soldiers: Campaign props and martyrs. The rest of the time, their attitude towards veterans is like that towards their women: Neither seen nor heard.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 15, 2019 • 4:30:57am

re: #60 A Mom Anon

I tried searching and found this from 2016:
esquire.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 4:31:01am

re: #69 Targetpractice

As I’ve noted before, they only have two uses for soldiers: Campaign props and martyrs. The rest of the time, their attitude towards veterans is like that towards their women: Neither seen nor heard.

That was a rhetorical question on my part. But yes.

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steve_davis  Jul 15, 2019 • 4:32:48am

re: #25 Charles Johnson

WTF

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Yeah, Charles, got to admit that bugs the hell out of me as well. Please use “Democratic” when talking about Democratic leaders. It’s annoying enough to where it drowns out anything else you might be saying. It would be, loosely, like referring to black people as “coloreds” in a statement in which you are decrying racism. Your heart may very well be in the right place, but word choice kills it.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 15, 2019 • 4:34:03am

re: #70 Shropshire Slasher

Thank you, that’s the link that popped up in my Facebook feed this morning. It’s a good question and I don’t think I have heard anyone asking trump supporters about that.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 4:36:31am

The day that the GOP will give much of a damn about veterans…is the day they succeed in privatizing the VA. Then they will want all sorts of “support” in the form of increased spending that will go to their buddies in the health-care industry.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 4:36:46am

re: #66 HappyWarrior

Do they take care of the veterans they profess to venerate?

Not when I was homeless. (I did get stuff thrown at me, “get a job, loser,” cursed at a lot, &c. I’m guessing here but I’ll bet that wasn’t liberals doing that.)

If you threw back “well why don’t you take a homeless vet in, then” you’ll get all sorts of equivocation and excuses why they can’t.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 4:40:36am

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹

Not when I was homeless. (I did get stuff thrown at me, “get a job, loser,” cursed at a lot, &c. I’m guessing here but I’ll bet that wasn’t liberals doing that.)

If you threw back “well why don’t you take a homeless vet in, then” you’ll get all sorts of equivocation and excuses why they can’t.

Right. They love to use vets but only to put other people down. And I haven’t even started on the crap they say about federal workers, many whom are veterans.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 4:46:04am

re: #76 HappyWarrior

Right. They love to use vets but only to put other people down. And I haven’t even started on the crap they say about federal workers, many whom are veterans.

Plus they keep making more combat vets. I guess that gives them a steady supply.

One thing noteworthy about military recruiting is that it is way down since Trump was elected, missing goals (which makes filling positions harder and more work for people on active duty).

When I was a Navy Recruiter, I envied the Air Force Recruiter because the Air Force never had to hustle to find prospective applicants.

Now the Air Force is suffering badly in the recruiting department, because they don’t really have a culture of working to find recruits.

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Ming5000  Jul 15, 2019 • 4:49:06am

US Farmers, heavily Trump supporters, are sticking with Trump because they believe Trump has a plan and agree his with his efforts to “fix trade”. Once gain, data and facts don’t matter to them:
link

U.S. manufacturers are shifting production to countries outside of China as trade tensions between the world’s two biggest economies stretch into a second year….The biggest beneficiaries of that decline have been other countries in Asia where production costs are low, such as Vietnam, India, Taiwan and Malaysia.


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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 4:50:42am

re: #78 Ming5000

US Farmers, heavily Trump supporters, are sticking with Trump because they believe Trump has a plan and agree his with his efforts to “fix trade”. Once gain, data and facts don’t matter to them:

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Shared bigotry matters more. I don’t know how to get through to such voters.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 4:54:41am

re: #78 Ming5000

US Farmers, heavily Trump supporters, are sticking with Trump because they believe Trump has a plan and agree his with his efforts to “fix trade”. Once gain, data and facts don’t matter to them:
link

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And next year he’ll push for another bailout of farmers that’s timed for release just before the election. Ensuring that in 2021, if the Dems win the White House and take back the Senate, such bailouts will go from “a violation of our beliefs!” to “VITALLY IMPORTANT TO PROTECT OUR FARMERS!” in the minds of Repubs.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 5:01:47am

iilluminaughtii is a YouTuber who searches out crazy crap posted to YouTube, Facebook, and Reddit. Her most frequent targets are antivaxxers and flat earthers (both of whom frequently send her death threats and rape threats since they are good Christians and she’s an atheist).

She took a different path this time. As a single woman in her late twenties, she posted one on things which make you feel old.

(19:48)

Things to Make You Feel Old

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 5:06:29am

re: #79 HappyWarrior

Shared bigotry matters more. I don’t know how to get through to such voters.

That’s precisely it. When people say “they are voting against their interests,” they really aren’t. Their interest is racism. I’m reminded of the lobster pot manufacturer who was being put out of business by tariffs in Maine, but said he thought that what Trump was doing for the country is more important (filling his pockets, apparently).

You can’t get through to them. You can call out racism (and the inevitable “you’re playing the race card) from them to prevent others from falling into that trap, outvote the crap out of them, and engage the majority which does not vote.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 15, 2019 • 5:10:56am

re: #57 HappyWarrior

The scary thing is we elected that guy President. Yeah I know Russia and all that but that he was nominated and that it was close enough to rig. That’s what gets me and always will. The acceptance and support of fascism in the name of America.

Yep. Russia can only help as long as there are Americans predisposed to believe the lies.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 5:17:51am

Excuse Me, There Is A Time Traveler Running For President And I Need To Know More Please (Wonkette)

So Andy Basiago is running as an independent for President. He believes he was part of a secret DARPA programme back in the Sixties and Seventies to cultivate time travelers for military purposes. He says he’s traveled back and forth in time for secret missions for the military and CIA, and will be forthcoming with a book detailing all these secret technologies and plans the government has been using. (I’ll bet.)

He claims to be a so-called indigo child before indigo children were a thing.

It turns out that saying anybody can grow up to be President one day is patently false. There are people who shouldn’t be President.

RationalWiki also has an article on this lunatic:
rationalwiki.org

Amongst his claims is the update to Microsoft Word 2007 was destructive to the economy.

If there is anything I pride myself on, it is knowing way too much about almost every kind of weird shit there is to know about. Thus, imagine my shock when, while in an internet hole earlier this week, I discovered the existence of a man named Andrew Basiago who claims to be a time traveler and who is also supposed to be running for president in 2020. As it turns out, I am totally late on this, he has been a thing for YEARS and he also ran for president in 2016. Someone should have told me. I should have known. I could have been obsessed with him for at least three years by now, and it’s just not fair.

Apparently Basiago, because of all the time traveling he has done, knows for a fact that he will be President of the United States of America sometime between 2016 and 2028. He is not sure of the specific year for some reason, but he knows it will happen. Now that 2016 is off the table, he’s now shooting for 2020.

He does have a campaign site domain name set up, but sadly, it is not currently in operation and I can’t see it.

(more crazy at Wonkette on this nutbar)

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 5:20:04am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹

iilluminaughtii is a YouTuber who searches out crazy crap posted to YouTube, Facebook, and Reddit. Her most frequent targets are antivaxxers and flat earthers (both of whom frequently send her death threats and rape threats since they are good Christians and she’s an atheist).

She took a different path this time. As a single woman in her late twenties, she posted one on things which make you feel old.

(19:48)

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*sigh* Damned kids these days.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 5:32:42am

(video, 1:11)

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 5:42:36am

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹

(video, 1:11)

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She quotes Obama saying he wasn’t a king in defense of a man who insists on almost a daily basis that he has the power to do anything he likes.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 15, 2019 • 5:58:21am

re: #87 Targetpractice

She quotes Obama saying he wasn’t a king in defense of a man who insists on almost a daily basis that he has the power to do anything he likes.

This.

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Jay C  Jul 15, 2019 • 5:59:46am

re: #56 Dr Lizardo

I’d almost forgotten about Greg Stillson. One of King’s more memorable villains.

Yeah, Trump definitely has that Greg Stillson vibe to him.

But Tom Cotton has it a lot more.

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Citizen K  Jul 15, 2019 • 6:07:46am

re: #56 Dr Lizardo

I’d almost forgotten about Greg Stillson. One of King’s more memorable villains.

Yeah, Trump definitely has that Greg Stillson vibe to him.

The main problem is the thing that destroyed Stillson in the end is something Trump could probably skate through easily in this climate.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 6:22:30am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. We’re going to have a heat wave in the area this week (northern/central NJ starting today, and for NYC proper, starting Thurs/Friday). They’re predicting air temps in NYC approaching 100 by the weekend.

Oh and humidity off the charts too as we get the remnants of Barry and all that tropical air coming in behind it.

But that’s not the part that truly sucks.

It’s that the media still tries to equivocate around Trump’s racism and bigotry. He’s always been a racist and bigot and his policies and that of the GOP are about racism and bigotry. They’re about maximizing benefits to white guys, while depriving everyone else of their rights (and using the racism and bigotry to push more tax benefits to the 1%). Trump’s just far more vocal about the racism and misogyny than any of the GOP predecessors.

Trump’s racism and bigotry can be traced back to the 1970s, so this isn’t anything new. It’s been there all along. He doesn’t mind profiting from undocumented workers (like when he tore down the Bonwit Teller building or has them working his golf resorts). But that’s useful to him - he doesn’t care about the damage he does by calling them rapists and murderers (when immigrants commit crimes at rates far lower than native-born Americans). He’s a racist and white supremacist and birther when he calls for nonwhite Democratic Congresswomen to return home to their countries, when they were born here in the US - the same crap he pulled with Obama.

The GOP silence is assent. They’re cool with Trump’s racism, and I think they use it as a cover as they continue their own racist and misogynistic policies to deprive women agency over their bodies and look to gut civil and voting rights.

Trump’s latest move is antithetical to federal and international law, by trying to stop legal immigration - asylum. These people have a right under the law to seek asylum here, but the cruelty is the point. Trump wants to stop nonwhites coming here. That’s the goddamned point. It’s racist in intent and the express purpose. He and the GOP want to stop nonwhites coming here.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 6:23:08am

re: #90 Citizen K

The main problem is the thing that destroyed Stillson in the end is something Trump could probably skate through easily in this climate.

What destroyed Stillson in the end was using a baby as a human shield, something that not even the most blood-obsessed of the wingnut death cult would truck with.

Now, had he grabbed another adult and used them to shield himself? He’d have suffered a good bit of political fallout, but probably would have remained a viable candidate because of excuse-making about how “valuable” his life was.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 6:24:39am

Meanwhile, consider that awkward moment in the zombie apocalypse when zombies seeking brains just walk right past you…

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 6:25:07am
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Citizen K  Jul 15, 2019 • 6:26:12am

re: #92 Targetpractice

What destroyed Stillson in the end was using a baby as a human shield, something that not even the most blood-obsessed of the wingnut death cult would truck with.

Now, had he grabbed another adult and used them to shield himself? He’d have suffered a good bit of political fallout, but probably would have remained a viable candidate because of excuse-making about how “valuable” his life was.

In a world where there are children in rotting concentration camps and we have half the country giddy and gleeful about it, in a world where Trump’s boast of being able to shoot someone on 5th Ave. and not lose support seems more and more true by the day, I’m not sure even using a child as human shield would hurt Trump these days. At least not among those who weren’t already against him to begin with.

“Pro-Life” only extends to the fetus, after all. The children can go fuck themselves, apparently.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 15, 2019 • 6:30:42am

re: #95 Citizen K

To Conservatives, these are not “children”. Children are humans beings.. you know… white people.

To them, everyone else is a spectrum of sub-human garbage. They are to be ignored, dominated, caged, or killed.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 15, 2019 • 6:32:51am

Technology is making low skill service jobs sheer misery as workers lose all predictability and control. I now feel guilty about complaining when they get my order wrong. I don’t eat fast food myself, but my wife and kids like it.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 15, 2019 • 6:34:15am

re: #95 Citizen K

Love the Fetus, Hate the Child. And the Mothers too.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 15, 2019 • 6:34:27am

re: #95 Citizen K

In a world where there are children in rotting concentration camps and we have half the country giddy and gleeful about it, in a world where Trump’s boast of being able to shoot someone on 5th Ave. and not lose support seems more and more true by the day, I’m not sure even using a child as human shield would hurt Trump these days. At least not among those who weren’t already against him to begin with.

“Pro-Life” only extends to the fetus, after all. The children can go fuck themselves, apparently.

It might hurt him if it were a white, christian child. Maybe.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2019 • 6:39:12am

re: #97 NO SMOCKING GUN!

“I was a fast-food worker. Let me tell you about burnout.” ]

“Stop complaining or we’ll replace you with a machine!”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 15, 2019 • 6:41:10am

On twitter this weekend I voted on the best and worst presidents of my lifetime. I picked Obama as the best, and while most picked Trump as the worst, I’m still going with Dubya for now. Trump hasn’t lied us into an unnecessary war or wrecked the economy. Yet. Though Trump is clearly a worse human being than Dubya, IMO.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 15, 2019 • 6:41:54am

Crybaby in Chief

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 15, 2019 • 6:48:31am

ASSHOLE

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 15, 2019 • 6:49:23am
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Belafon  Jul 15, 2019 • 6:49:28am

re: #102 The Pie Overlord!

Crybaby in Chief

Oh, no, women swear!

I’m still at the stage where that’s still cool rather than just a thing, but we don’t do a lot of cussing at my house or at work anyway.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 6:49:32am

So, I guess the answer to “How will the GOP handle Trump’s racist remarks?” is “They’ll double down!”

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 6:49:39am
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A Mom Anon  Jul 15, 2019 • 6:54:00am

re: #103 The Pie Overlord!

He’s inciting violence against members of Congress. His Master is inciting violence against the rest of us.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 6:57:56am
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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:00:19am

I have a couple of spare bedrooms. $775 a night? I’d be able to pay for my mortgage, early retirement, and provide a clean environment for these folks as long as it takes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:01:14am

re: #103 The Pie Overlord!

LindseyGraham on Fox & Friends: “We all know that AOC and this crowd are a bunch of communists … they’re anti-Semitic. They’re anti-America.”

These are talking points that are now elevated to tenets of the Right Wing Dogma.

He avoided referring to them as “non-American” or calling for them to go back to where they came from, which makes him seem “moderate”…

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:01:55am

JFC

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:02:58am

re: #91 lawhawk

You got a standard conservative response to your tweet:

Nope. Asylum is legal to apply for anywhere on the territory of the United States, at the border or anywhere else, according to federal law.

Applying for asylum at an embassy when you are fleeing that very country the embassy is in is not practical, which is why that method is not listed in federal law.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:03:10am

re: #60 A Mom Anon

Ken Burns has a good question for conservatives (via esquire.com, I can’t get it to link on my phone)….

What part of Donald Trump reminds you of Jesus Christ?.

Xtians will reply “EVERYTHING”.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:03:58am

re: #97 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Technology is making low skill service jobs sheer misery as workers lose all predictability and control. I now feel guilty about complaining when they get my order wrong. I don’t eat fast food myself, but my wife and kids like it.

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There’s not a thing in that article I’d argue with because I’ve experienced every bit of it. The constant monitoring of your clock-ins/clock-outs, the schedules that are written two days before the work week begins but any days-off requests have to be filed 2 weeks prior and are still not guaranteed, and the write-up for an angry guest complaining to corporate about how I didn’t yelp and cower like a kicked dog. Though an item not on that list that I also deal with is management who constantly monitor the cameras in order to lecture me about how I’m not using my time “wisely.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:04:07am
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A Mom Anon  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:05:24am

re: #110 lawhawk

Where can I sign up? We’ve got room. I’d happily help. For 750 a day per person? I’m in. Clean house, food, good neighborhood and I will punch a motherfucker who tries to start shit with them.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:06:09am

re: #112 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

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Lindsey will get “tough” on Trump…just as soon as he’s won his state’s primary.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:07:24am

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹

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She’ll defend them against Trump, only to then tell the press that a glass of water with a “(D)” could win their seats.

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steve_davis  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:11:49am

re: #92 Targetpractice

What destroyed Stillson in the end was using a baby as a human shield, something that not even the most blood-obsessed of the wingnut death cult would truck with.

Now, had he grabbed another adult and used them to shield himself? He’d have suffered a good bit of political fallout, but probably would have remained a viable candidate because of excuse-making about how “valuable” his life was.

yeah, today Stillson would just say “it’s fake news! that baby threw himself into my arms to protect me!” and Chuck Todd would express his concern over how it wasn’t his responsibility to call bullshit on that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:16:31am

re: #104 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Hey, I beat you to that on #65. /s

Pay me that much money, I’ll build a bigger house. Hell, an apartment house.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:17:19am

Thing to bear in mind is that, in recent days, Donny has not just been beating up on these freshman Dems but also praising Nancy for her comments about how (basically) they’re a bunch of unruly kids who need to sit down and shut up while the adults talk. It’s not really surprising that, emboldened by how the party leadership seems to be throwing shade on these women, he feels comfortable ratcheting up his own attacks against them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:20:04am

re: #122 Targetpractice

Thing to bear in mind is that, in recent days, Donny has not just been beating up on these freshman Dems but also praising Nancy for her comments about how (basically) they’re a bunch of unruly kids who need to sit down and shut up while the adults talk. It’s not really surprising that, emboldened by how the party leadership seems to be throwing shade on these women, he feels comfortable ratcheting up his own attacks against them.

Nancy Pelosi has drawn two primary challengers to her as well, both of whom are much closer to democratic socialists and much younger.

Her idea that any (D) could have won those four seats also applies to her seat.

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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:20:38am

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:23:05am

Trump and Lindsey certainly talked about ginning up the divide between NP and the freshmen four while golfing.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:25:03am

The National Hurricane Center passed off reporting on Tropical Depression Barry to the Weather Prediction Center.

Their latest update is a 4 AM CDT.

wpc.ncep.noaa.gov

On their main map, they show the centre near the state line between Oklahoma and Arkansas, near the middle of Arkansas’s state line.

By tomorrow, they predict it to be a post-tropical cyclone approaching St. Louis.

Today’s map also shows severe thunderstorms around the western end of Lake Superior, and a line stretching from eastern Montana down to my area.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:27:16am

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹

Nancy Pelosi has drawn two primary challengers to her as well, both of whom are much closer to democratic socialists and much younger.

Her idea that any (D) could have won those four seats also applies to her seat.

Incumbents never see their own elections as something that could be won by inanimate object, especially those who sit in seats in districts where such is almost a reality. If anything, she’ll see her more progressive challengers as an example of what’s “wrong” with those like AOC, that these young kids don’t see how her own brand of politics is what has made the party “strong” and her their youthful exuberance will lead it to ruin.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:31:42am

I don’t think Trump was so much taking an opportunity to distract. I don’t think Mr. Art of the Deal is actually that aware. I think he was just being his racist self.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:32:54am

In a lot of ways, I see Nancy’s attitude towards the freshmen in the way Biden acted in that first debate. They don’t see all the missteps and bad bets in their past, they only see a highlight reel of someone who has remained in office for so long because “people love what I do for them!” It’s why they are so hostile to suggestions that a “centrist,” “don’t rock the boat” attitude towards post-Newt politics is detrimental rather than “the way things work.” For folks who actually shook hands with JFK or cut their teeth in Congress as both parties came together to boot Nixon out, the idea that they have to treat the other party as enemies rather than “misguided friends” is a hard one to work with.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:33:10am

re: #127 Targetpractice

Incumbents never see their own elections as something that could be won by inanimate object, especially those who sit in seats in districts where such is almost a reality. If anything, she’ll see her more progressive challengers as an example of what’s “wrong” with those like AOC, that these young kids don’t see how her own brand of politics is what has made the party “strong” and her their youthful exuberance will lead it to ruin.

Yup, and that’s why AOC won in her district. The incumbent Democrat assumed he couldn’t lose.

It was certainly not a sure thing for AOC: She ran on a shoe-string budget but with a lot of supporters and volunteers. She earned the seat by doing the work to get it.

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Belafon  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:34:09am

The idea that Democrats could have different ideas about how to govern and yet still be opposed to Trump is as ludicrus as people on blogs disagreeing about the timing of impeachment and still believing that Trump should be removed from office.

Trump’s praising Pelosi is is nothing other than to get a reaction out of people who are souring on her handling of Trump. Don’t fall for it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:37:13am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:38:29am
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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:38:48am

re: #131 Belafon

The idea that Democrats could have different ideas about how to govern and yet still be opposed to Trump is as ludicrus as people on blogs disagreeing about the timing of impeachment and still believing that Trump should be removed from office.

Trump’s praising Pelosi is is nothing other than to get a reaction out of people who are souring on her handling of Trump. Don’t fall for it.

Trump couldn’t get a reaction if there wasn’t already animosity there.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:39:28am

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m sure we’re all glad to know there’s no rush.

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Belafon  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:40:29am

re: #134 Targetpractice

Trump couldn’t get a reaction if there wasn’t already animosity there.

Trump shouldn’t be able to get a reaction, period, even if it’s there. “Shush, Donny, the adults are talking” should be the reaction.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:42:33am

re: #136 Belafon

Trump shouldn’t be able to get a reaction, period, even if it’s there. “Shush, Donny, the adults are talking” should be the reaction.

Which “adults” are talking? The ones taking turns slagging the kids in their own caucus who won’t be quiet?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:44:42am

re: #90 Citizen K

The main problem is the thing that destroyed Stillson in the end is something Trump could probably skate through easily in this climate.

I don’t know - I like to think that Trump using a toddler as a human shield would be revolting to even the most hardcore of his followers. But then again, they’re just as much cowards as he is, so they’d probably do the same thing given the circumstances.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:45:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:45:41am

bullshit

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:46:08am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:47:02am

Thread, four tweets:

It is noteworthy on the conservative side of the aisle, only Justin Amash has condemned Trump’s screed, and Amash left the Republican Party a couple weeks ago.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:47:24am

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Can never fail, can only be failed” could be the Trump family motto. He’s blaming Ross for the loss in court, not the fact that his own BS was called a lie by the SCOTUS bench.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:49:16am

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

bullshit

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A rule change that they’ll claim is based upon the law, putting on the weigh on the “first safe country” language that they insist means any refugees must seek asylum in any country between their home and the US.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:52:45am
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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:53:46am

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m seeing pretty much what I expected to see: The hard-core Trump jock-sniffers latching onto his comments, while the milquetoast “moderates” offer excuses for why his comments are so totally not racist.

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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:53:50am

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹

(video, 1:11)

CHRIS WALLACE: What can you tell us about these ICE raids? How many people is ICE going after?

KELLYANNE CONWAY: *immediately changes topic to bashing Obama*

Sweeps turn into coffee and doughnuts

A federal plan to detain at least 2,000 immigrants in a nationwide sweep Sunday has devolved into a handful of low-key raids with few if any arrests, the New York Times reports.

The plan for ICE agents to dramatically round up immigrants who have removal orders—which was highly publicized and hotly debated—changed after media reports alerted immigrants about what was coming, Homeland Security officials say.
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So-called “ICE chasers” in the Atlanta suburbs, who help immigrants once they’re arrested, eventually gave up Sunday and went back to the office of an advocacy group for doughnuts and coffee.

The leader of a similar response team in Los Angeles saw no arrests but said time was well-spent informing undocumented workers about what to expect from ICE raids.

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William Lewis  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:54:19am

re: #97 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Technology is making low skill service jobs sheer misery as workers lose all predictability and control. I now feel guilty about complaining when they get my order wrong. I don’t eat fast food myself, but my wife and kids like it.

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I worked at McD’s for three months. The worst was the hamburger frying - the cook surface was too low meaning I was bent over to cook all shift. My back - already not the best due to Uncle Sam - did not like that at all though I’m sure the stock of generic ibuprofin makers went up. I was ecstatic to get a job at a hotel instead.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:54:52am

passport from another country with Epstein’s photo but a different name and residence in Saudi Arabia?

not a flight risk, my aunt fanny…

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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:55:09am

re: #128 Anymouse 🌹

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this is the absolute best answer i’ve seen

Joaquin Castro

@JoaquinCastrotx
They’re Americans.
You’re a bigot.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:56:11am
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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:56:12am

re: #147 DangerMan

Sweeps turn into coffee and doughnuts

I rather suspect that’s what caused today’s announcement about the asylum law change, Donny so thoroughly foiled by his own ego that he needed another round of red meat for the rubes.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:56:49am

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

passport from another country with Epstein’s photo but a different name and residence in Saudi Arabia?

not a flight risk, my aunt fanny…

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I’m not at all surprised to hear that. Not one damn bit. And I’m sure there’s at least one other valid passport with a bogus name and Epstein’s photo on it - they probably just didn’t find it this time.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:58:43am

re: #146 Targetpractice

I’m seeing pretty much what I expected to see: The hard-core Trump jock-sniffers latching onto his comments, while the milquetoast “moderates” offer excuses for why his comments are so totally not racist.

Or the “you’re playing the race card” from conservatives (they all seem to misunderstand what “playing the race card” means: It’s what George Wallace did and Donald Trump does.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:58:51am

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹

The real question is to know whether Waffle House is open/closed. If it closes, you know it’s going to be real bad.

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wrenchwench  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:58:58am

re: #144 Targetpractice

A rule change that they’ll claim is based upon the law, putting on the weigh on the “first safe country” language that they insist means any refugees must seek asylum in any country between their home and the US.

A Honduran crosses the Rio Grande into El Paso, and asks the nearest uniform for asylum. A name is taken, a number given, and the Honduran is sent into Juarez to wait for attention. Juarez has the second highest murder rate north of Panama. Honduras is first. There are no safe countries now.

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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:59:55am

re: #142 Anymouse 🌹

Thread, four tweets:

To tell these American citizens (most of whom were born here) to “go back” to the “crime infested places from which they came” is racist and disgusting.

i would add the obvious if it hasnt been said already

- AOC was born in NYC
- her ‘heredity’ is puerto rican
- Puerto Rico is ____________ (c’mon, you can do it)
- therefore the president said that his administration is a “complete and total catastrophe.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:00:26am
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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:02:21am

re: #156 wrenchwench

A Honduran crosses the Rio Grande into El Paso, and asks the nearest uniform for asylum. A name is taken, a number given, and the Honduran is sent into Juarez to wait for attention. Juarez has the second highest murder rate north of Panama. Honduras is first. There are no safe countries now.

Hell, my favorite is the wingnuts who will insist Mexico is the first “safe” country they enter on the way to the US border…while also portraying it as a inhuman hellhole run by drug cartels where you can be murdered just for standing in the wrong place for too long.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:02:44am
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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:03:45am

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹

Or the “you’re playing the race card” from conservatives (they all seem to misunderstand what “playing the race card” means: It’s what George Wallace did and Donald Trump does.

trump doesnt seem to get that one ‘should’ at least slightly encode their dog whistle //

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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:05:00am

re: #159 Targetpractice

Hell, my favorite is the wingnuts who will insist Mexico is the first “safe” country they enter on the way to the US border…while also portraying it as a inhuman hellhole run by drug cartels where you can be murdered just for standing in the wrong place for too long.

Schrodinger’s Mexico

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:06:02am

re: #161 DangerMan

trump doesnt seem to get that one ‘should’ at least slightly encode their dog whistle //

It’s what the “NeverTrump” crowd actually hate him for, his refusal to play by the “rules” like they expect a Republican to do. The same ones who will bash him for his language…will bash Dems for not agreeing with his view that there’s a “crisis” that requires them to agree to draconian “solutions.”

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sagehen  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:07:03am

re: #107 lawhawk

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If Emmett Till were alive today, he’d be four years younger than Morgan Freeman.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:07:10am

re: #162 DangerMan

Schrodinger’s Mexico

You can’t tell if it’s safe or deadly unless you open the lid on Mexico. One of the two Mexico wave functions then collapses and the other becomes certain.

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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:07:51am

re: #160 Anymouse 🌹

-Saying u “grab women by the pusssy” is foul
-Calling black athletes “sons of bitches” is foul, racist
-Calling black & brown countries, “shit-holes” is foul, racist.
-Equating Neo-Nazis w/those who protest against them in Charlottesville, is racist
Trump, you are foul & racist.

it’s his whole life (from electoral-vote.com this AM) edited

- campaign announcement speech about “Mexican rapists”
- his Obama birtherism
- his description of Haiti and African countries as “sh**holes”
- his demand that the Central Park Five be executed.

and it wont matter because “conservative judges and tax cuts.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:08:30am

Heavy Metal Knits (goes to Wonkville)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:12:36am

Well, he didn’t use the standard “he has a black friend.”

Elaine Chao is there because she’s the wife of the majority leader, not because she’s Trump’s friend.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:12:56am

re: #166 DangerMan

it’s his whole life (from electoral-vote.com this AM) edited

and it wont matter because “conservative judges and tax cuts.”

Conservative justices who are racist to the core and/or who will promote policies that are racist to the core. His supporters are as racist as he.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:16:37am

re: #168 Anymouse 🌹

Well, he didn’t use the standard “he has a black friend.”

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Elaine Chao is there because she’s the wife of the majority leader, not because she’s Trump’s friend.

He only invoked Chao’s name because of her gender. Otherwise he would have defaulted to invoking Carson.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:20:44am

re: #168 Anymouse 🌹

Well, he didn’t use the standard “he has a black friend.”

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Elaine Chao is there because she’s the wife of the majority leader, not because she’s Trump’s friend.

Trump’s racism doesn’t include Asians. He’s racist toward Africans and Latinos; McConnell is exactly the same. OTOH Trump’s fellow travelers such as Bannon dislike Asians

From a 2016 Vanity Fair article concerning an old Bannon interview of Trump:

In a conversation that actually makes Trump sound reasonable, he tells Bannon that he’s concerned about foreign Ivy League students, highly skilled and otherwise capable of working for or starting their own tech companies, graduating and then returning to their home countries. “When someone is going to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Penn, Stanford, all the greats” and then graduate, “we throw them out of the country, and they can’t get back in,” he said. “We have to be careful of that, Steve. You know, we have to keep our talented people in this country.” To which Bannon replied: “Um.” Trump tried to get Bannon to agree with him, but to no avail. Instead, Bannon suggested there were already too many Asian tech C.E.O.s. in Silicon Valley. “When two-thirds or three-quarters of the C.E.O.s in Silicon Valley are from South Asia or from Asia, I think . . . ” Bannon said, trailing off. “A country is more than an economy. We’re a civic society.”

ED: added link to article

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:20:58am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:22:58am

re: #128 Anymouse 🌹

Yes and yes! But what a great distraction from Jeffery Epstein and yesterday’s pics of the concentration camps.

I don’t think Trump was so much taking an opportunity to distract. I don’t think Mr. Art of the Deal is actually that aware. I think he was just being his racist self.

It does not matter, either way it’s a win for him in the media

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:25:49am

re: #160 Anymouse 🌹

Ana Navarro really brought out the truth of conservatism in her thread.

She’s being accused of being anti-American, disloyal, all sorts of misogynistic crap is being thrown at her, fat-shaming, some are saying she should be deported, probably the least offensive slur thrown at her is she’s a RINO.

Amazing on a cursory view of Twitter bios how many of them say “Christian.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:31:27am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It does not matter, either way it’s a win for him in the media

Epstein isn’t going to disappear in the media, and Trump has backed down in the face of severe backlash before.

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wrenchwench  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:32:05am

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹

Amazing on a cursory view of Twitter bios how many of them say “Christian.”

My curseory view says ‘goddamnedfrank’.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:34:13am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:34:26am

this thread.

JFC

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:35:18am

What This Dems In Disarray Story Needs Is Some Garbage Polling. Take It Away, Axios! (Wonkette)

Very journalism! Much great!
Five Dollar Feminist

Seriously, Axios, WTF is this nonsense about Democrats “sounding the alarm that swing voters know and dislike socialism, warning it could cost them the House and the presidency”? Was this pearl of wisdom from one of the Tim Ryans currently running to be the Your Next White Dude President? The same guys who tried to shitcan Nancy Pelosi for being the socialist face of the Democratic Party Fox News had always said she was?

Mitch McConnell is out there telling Americans that everything from the estate tax to Puerto Rican statehood is “socialism.” There is zero evidence that voters “know” anything about socialism other than that they’re supposed to hate it.

More importantly, there is a rational argument to be made that the future leaders of the party should allow the current leaders to lead and stop using their platforms to criticize the policy stances of their Democratic colleagues who have to run in less progressive districts. But this ain’t it, chief.

(more)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:35:28am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:37:07am

good fucking grief

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:38:00am

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:40:35am
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Citizen K  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:43:03am

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s like…maybe the term ‘racism’ was minimized not from overuse but underuse.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:43:31am

Poll running in my regional newspaper this morning, the Scottsbluff (Nebr.) Star-Herald:

Should Nebraska legalize marijuana?

You voted “Yes”

258 Yes
70 No

This is the most conservative part of the state.

Maryjane legalisation might be an issue for Democrats to run on here (aside from the upcoming referendum to make maryjane legal).

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:43:49am
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Belafon  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:43:49am

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹

Ana Navarro really brought out the truth of conservatism in her thread.

She’s being accused of being anti-American, disloyal, all sorts of misogynistic crap is being thrown at her, fat-shaming, some are saying she should be deported, probably the least offensive slur thrown at her is she’s a RINO.

Amazing on a cursory view of Twitter bios how many of them say “Christian.”

I’m surprised she wasn’t accused of being one of the people that created this mess.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:45:01am

re: #184 Citizen K

It’s like…maybe the term ‘racism’ was minimized not from overuse but underuse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:51:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:55:49am

*burn*

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wrenchwench  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:58:26am

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fire is usually bad, but I want to see many freeze in jail for this.

/edited version

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:59:18am

ok, this is exceedingly pretzel logic

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:00:31am
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wrenchwench  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:01:40am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

ok, this is exceedingly pretzel logic

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Some people have gotten away with so much for so long, a tiny whiff of justice confuses them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:01:41am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:02:41am

Just got a letter in the mail from our only Planned Parenthood clinic in the state (over in Lincoln, 400 miles away).

Short story: When PP came under sustained attack under the new maladministration, I called them to ask how I could donate by cheque to the clinic’s services.

There was much back-and-forth as they explained to me they do not like to give their mailing address out, due to the clinic’s past with receiving death and rape threats from the pro-foetus lobby.

After about twenty minutes of talking to me to decide whether or not I was a nutbar trying to harass them, they gave me their mail address over the telephone. I promptly responded with a cheque as promised.

It’s that time of year again, so I got a “will you donate again” letter. I’m going to do that, but I’m considering putting the donation in the name of my state governor. I’m sure Pete Ricketts would love that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:03:25am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:07:54am

Almost 300 Republicans in Congress between the House and the Senate.

Not a single one speaking out against Trumps racism.

NOT A SINGLE ONE.

This is WHO they are. It’s sickening.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:08:58am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

Almost 300 Republicans in Congress between the House and the Senate.

Not a single one speaking out against Trumps racism.

NOT A SINGLE ONE.

This is WHO they are. It’s sickening.

And some like Lindsay Graham are going on the attack on television, deflecting, calling Democrats the real racists, &c.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:10:29am

Let’s all vomit together.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:10:51am

As the various wings of the Democratic Party were on the verge of an all out civil war, Donnie the Dotard and his racist tweet storms has successfully united the party. Well played.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:11:47am

If he’s married, this might change that.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:12:04am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

Almost 300 Republicans in Congress between the House and the Senate.

Not a single one speaking out against Trumps racism.

NOT A SINGLE ONE.

This is WHO they are. It’s sickening.

And the press won’t give much of a shit because they’re totally in on the “Trump is an aberration” mantra, portraying his racism as unique to him rather than something that defines the modern GOP.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:13:19am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

re: #199 Anymouse 🌹

Looks increasingly like the GOP has decided to go all-in on white nationalism for the 2020 campaign. They’re probably thinking it’s the only thing that can save them, at least for the time being.

“Après nous, le déluge” best describes that mentality.

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wrenchwench  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:13:54am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

Almost 300 Republicans in Congress between the House and the Senate.

Not a single one speaking out against Trumps racism.

NOT A SINGLE ONE.

This is WHO they are. It’s sickening.

The way Trump has tied together; racism, sexism, classism, hucksterism, politicianism, etc.; any peep risks blowing everything up. They’re scared.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:15:27am
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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:16:34am

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

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marvelous stuff

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:17:43am

re: #180 Backwoods_Sleuth

“The stakes are grave, and one of the most important reasons for Epstein’s release” are to give him the right to prepare a defense.

He has the right to counsel and to access to counsel, nobody is locking him away in solitary.

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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:18:48am

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

As someone who has known Trump since 1987, what most amazes me is that his diehard fans have no idea they’re exactly the kind of people he always held in utmost contempt, thought of them as rubes for the fleecing, unworthy of his attention. He uses them now just to fluff his ego.

what do you call a con if those conned dont seem to mind it?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:19:11am


Alan Turing Is The Face Of The New £50 Note

The Bank of England received 227,299 nominations from people suggesting figures from the world of science.

Second World War code-breaker Alan Turing will be the next character to appear on the £50 banknote, the Bank of England has confirmed.

The selection of the mathematician, who is often credited as being the father of computer science, was announced at the Science and Industry Museum in Manchester.

Bank of England Governor Mark Carney, who made the announcement, also revealed the imagery depicting Turing and his work that will be used for the reverse of the note.

The new polymer £50 note is expected to enter circulation by the end of 2021. It will feature a quote from Turing, given in an interview to the Times newspaper on June 11 1949: “This is only a foretaste of what is to come, and only the shadow of what is going to be.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:19:31am

re: #205 wrenchwench

The way Trump has tied together; racism, sexism, classism, hucksterism, politicianism, etc.; any peep risks blowing everything up. They’re scared.

It’s why you see the spineless with a shred of dignity resigning from office (Flake, Ryan) and then attacking Trump from the safety of not being up for election.

Justin Amash was the only one who had the courage to resign from the party, then call out Trump directly as a racist.

Up the thread where Ana Navarro called him out this morning, she also isn’t running for election. Yet she remains a Republican, even as their voters call for her to be deported (or worse).

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:20:17am

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He has the right to counsel and to access to counsel, nobody is locking him away in solitary.

He should be treated with the same rights and respect as an indigent minority client in jail for the same offense.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:21:03am

re: #210 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

£50 notes are about as common in circulation as a $100 bill in the USA and generally often used for somewhat shady purposes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:21:21am
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Chrysicat  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:21:34am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:22:02am

re: #212 Hecuba’s daughter

He should be treated with the same rights and respect as an indigent minority client in jail for the same offense.

He is a definite flight risk and a much more serious risk of intimidating witnesses or manipulating/destroying evidence

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:22:08am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

£50 notes are about as common in circulation as a $100 bill in the USA and generally often used for somewhat shady purposes.

Depends where you live in the USA. $50 and $100 banknotes are common here, since so much business is conducted in cash.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:24:19am

re: #217 Anymouse 🌹

Depends where you live in the USA. $50 and $100 banknotes are common here, since so much business is conducted in cash.

I have forgotten what a backwater you live in…I rarely saw a Grant and I can just about count on my fingers the times I ever held a Benjamin.

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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:25:08am

re: #203 Targetpractice

And the press won’t give much of a shit because they’re totally in on the “Trump is an aberration” mantra, portraying his racism as unique to him rather than something that defines the modern GOP.

if his racism was unique to him, it wouldnt be working now

- the ‘40%’ wouldnt stand for it
- the R congress wouldnt stand for it
- the media would be blasting him all to hell

it’s not an aberration and it’s working because
- the ‘40%’ is fine with it because they agree with it
- the R congress is fine with it because conservative judges and tax cuts (and yes, some of the R congress agrees with it)
- the media is fine with it because trump is a cash cow whose throat you don’t slit (and yes, some of the media agrees with it too, just by percentages…)

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:25:30am

re: #211 Anymouse 🌹

It’s why you see the spineless with a shred of dignity resigning from office (Flake, Ryan) and then attacking Trump from the safety of not being up for election.

Justin Amash was the only one who had the courage to resign from the party, then call out Trump directly as a racist.

Up the thread where Ana Navarro called him out this morning, she also isn’t running for election. Yet she remains a Republican, even as their voters call for her to be deported (or worse).

Ana — who is certainly a fierce never Trumper — is like Rick Wilson, Bill Kristol, and other similar never Trumpers: unable to accept responsibility for their role in creating Trump and believing firmly that once Trump is gone, the rot in their party will magically vanish.

I will exclude William Weld from this group since he has always been and remains a traditional old style Republican.

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wrenchwench  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:27:17am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

£50 notes are about as common in circulation as a $100 bill in the USA and generally often used for somewhat shady purposes.

In 1980, I was working at a gas station and noticed the shift from 20s to 50s from people who would fill up a couple times a week to commute to LA. Now 100s are taking their place, making it easier for plastic to take over everywhere, because bills that big still make you old people nervous.

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Chrysicat  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:28:01am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have forgotten what a backwater you live in…I rarely saw a Grant and I can just about count on my fingers the times I ever held a Benjamin.

I’ll admit to the former, but the latter not so much. If you, say, hit a good payout at a track, the hundred-multiples are as Benjamins, not five-counts of 20s. I think the same at least used to be true of casinos.

Though I’ll admit, it’s not quite as common as it was before ATMs became ubiquitous, because they only dispense 20s even if you want 300 bucks at a time.

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Chrysicat  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:29:33am

re: #221 wrenchwench

In 1980, I was working at a gas station and noticed the shift from 20s to 50s from people who would fill up a couple times a week to commute to LA. Now 100s are taking their place, making it easier for plastic to take over everywhere, because bills that big still make you old people nervous.

Or it would make it easier for plastic to take over if they didn’t charge a 5% penalty for it as opposed to cash, which ISTR became legal again around 2003 after being forbidden for most of the 90s?

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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:29:44am

re: #210 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Alan Turing Is The Face Of The New £50 Note

doesnt look anything like cumberbatch

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:30:45am

re: #215 Chrysicat

You also wrote:

That would make me a citizen of Danzig, which doesn’t exist any more. I guess I get deported to Poland.

Wong Kim Ark in 1898 addressed birth on US soil, but only in the context of diplomats and others posted here (they don’t get citizenship). Birthright citizenship has been interpreted by the XIV Amendment to extend to everyone born here, but has never been litigated. It could bee overturned.

Then there is the treaty we’re a signatory power to:
The American Convention on Human Rights similarly provides that “Every person has the right to the nationality of the state in whose territory he was born if he does not have the right to any other nationality.” (Wikipedia)

We would either have to withdraw from the treaty (every nation in the Americas is a signatory except Venezuela), or claim that people born here have a right to citizenship elsewhere. (Poland isn’t going to take me.)

The United Nations views birthright citizenship as necessary to reduce the numbers of stateless people, who often have no rights. Since we’re not on the Human Rights Commission, I guess that doesn’t matter to the GOP.

One wingnut claim is that no country other than the USA offers birthright citizenship, which is an outright lie.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:31:06am

Germans don’t have an issue with large bills, 50 and 100-euro notes are quite common. And they are one of the few countries where 200 and 500-euro notes are accepted by anyone but banks.

Germans like their cash transactions and are going to be one of the last nations in Europe to go over to a totally digital economy.

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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:31:24am

re: #212 Hecuba’s daughter

He should be treated with the same rights and respect as an indigent minority client in jail for the same offense.

wow if one of the attorneys said that. “Why shouldnt he be treated…”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:33:15am

re: #225 Anymouse 🌹

Three. Of. Them. Were. Born. Here.

Of course, your entire party is now not only pulling for a law making anyone born here a citizen of their paternal grandfather’s country of citizenship,>>>.

Doesn’t matter if they were born here, if they ain’t got the right attatude and skin color/religion, they don’t belong here.

America is unique in that it offers birthright citizenship for almost anyone who was born here. Germany, for example, restricts to children of parents who are legal residents of at least three years’ standing.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:33:30am

re: #222 Chrysicat

I’ll admit to the former, but the latter not so much. If you, say, hit a good payout at a track, the hundred-multiples are as Benjamins, not five-counts of 20s. I think the same at least used to be true of casinos.

Though I’ll admit, it’s not quite as common as it was before ATMs became ubiquitous, because they only dispense 20s even if you want 300 bucks at a time.

Most of the ATMs here dispense $20s and $100s. (A couple dispense unusual amounts, such as $5 and $10.)

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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:33:57am

re: #215 Chrysicat

>>>but an unconstitutional ex-post-facto law declaring that anyone who didn’t have a born-an-American-citizen father was never an American themself, and must either naturalise or go to their ancestors’ home. Which this would very much fit with.

i havent checked though i wouldnt doubt that the family of at least one of those four congresswomen has been here longer than trumps

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:34:17am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have forgotten what a backwater you live in…I rarely saw a Grant and I can just about count on my fingers the times I ever held a Benjamin.

TheBackwoods is also a backwater; $50 and $100 bills are extremely common here.

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wrenchwench  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:34:36am

re: #223 Chrysicat

Or it would make it easier for plastic to take over if they didn’t charge a 5% penalty for it as opposed to cash, which ISTR became legal again around 2003 after being forbidden for most of the 90s?

The merchant charges the penalty so that those who use plastic pay what it costs the merchant to take plastic. Card companies take from both sides of every transaction. The alternative is to raise prices for everyone, making cash-customers pay for other people’s convenient plastic.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:35:55am
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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:37:34am

re: #223 Chrysicat

Or it would make it easier for plastic to take over if they didn’t charge a 5% penalty for it as opposed to cash, which ISTR became legal again around 2003 after being forbidden for most of the 90s?

as i understand it, you cant add a surcharge for credit

calling it a ‘discount for cash’ apparently makes it legal

though in not many other places than gas stations do we tolerate a tiered scale

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:38:28am

re: #228 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Doesn’t matter if they were born here, if they ain’t got the right attatude and skin color/religion, they don’t belong here.

America is unique in that it offers birthright citizenship for almost anyone who was born here. Germany, for example, restricts to children of parents who are legal residents of at least three years’ standing.

Actually we’re not unique. Many countries offer jus soli.

en.wikipedia.org

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:39:24am

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹

Ana Navarro really brought out the truth of conservatism in her thread.

She’s being accused of being anti-American, disloyal, all sorts of misogynistic crap is being thrown at her, fat-shaming, some are saying she should be deported, probably the least offensive slur thrown at her is she’s a RINO.

Amazing on a cursory view of Twitter bios how many of them say “Christian.”

They’re proving that they are KKKristians.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:41:12am

re: #233 The Pie Overlord!

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Yeah I’ve seen that one from his apologists. It’s utter bullshit.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:41:53am

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He has the right to counsel and to access to counsel, nobody is locking him away in solitary.

He’s in a protective custody situation given his profile/visibility as a child sex trafficker. This doesn’t infringe on his right to counsel, and he’s able to mount a defense even if he’s remanded to jail pending trial.

Berman also threw shade at the entire bail system - wondering what happens when those without means aren’t able to come up with $500 or $1000 and remain in jail.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:43:46am

re: #237 HappyWarrior

Yeah I’ve seen that one from his apologists. It’s utter bullshit.

Something something conviction under Nixon’s DOJ for housing discrimination.

His full-page adverts in New York calling for the death penalty for the Central Park Five. Even after their case was overturned and they were acquitted, he still objected.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:44:38am

re: #239 Anymouse 🌹

Something something conviction under Nixon’s DOJ for housing discrimination.

His full-page adverts in New York calling for the death penalty for the Central Park Five. Even after their case was overturned and they were acquitted, he still objected.

I know. They know. We all know. He’s always been an ass.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:44:56am

re: #239 Anymouse 🌹

Something something conviction under Nixon’s DOJ for housing discrimination.

His full-page adverts in New York calling for the death penalty for the Central Park Five. Even after their case was overturned and they were acquitted, he still objected.

Shit, he still insists they were guilty.

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Ferdinand  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:45:08am

Slate has an article up today listing reactions to Trump’s racist weekend from GOP politicians. They’re updating it as the day goes. I was struck by how the first folks being pressed for comments or feeling the need to speak up or whatever are GOP Reps from Texas. “Go back to your own country” language is I’m guessing even more incendiary there considering the prominence of Hispanic Texans.
slate.com
For example, I don’t know who this Hurd dude is but to see a Republican actually say “those tweets are racist” surprises me.

Rep. Will Hurd (Texas 23rd District)
Hurd told CNN, “Those tweets are racist, and xenophobic… It’s also behavior that’s unbecoming of the leader of the free world. He should be talking about things that unite, not divide us.”

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sagehen  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:47:54am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

Almost 300 Republicans in Congress between the House and the Senate.

Not a single one speaking out against Trumps racism.

NOT A SINGLE ONE.

This is WHO they are. It’s sickening.

Fred Upton kind of halfway spoke out (though he “both sides“‘d it.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:49:22am

moron

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Ferdinand  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:49:53am

And surprisingly they’re still letting David French be the Shep Smith of NRO:
nationalreview.com

Donald Trump’s Tweets Were Malicious, and Republican Silence is Deafening
In 2016 Speaker Paul Ryan called Donald Trump’s attacks on Judge Alonzo Curiel — Trump had called the American-born judge “Mexican” and claimed he was therefore too biased to preside over the Trump University litigation — the “textbook definition of a racist comment.” That critique also applies to Trump’s tweet thread yesterday, a thread that was obviously aimed at Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and other members of her so-called “Squad.” …
With the exception of Omar, the country “from whence they came” is the United States of America. All of these Congresswomen, including Omar, have a constitutional right to “tell the people of the United States” how our “government is to be run.” The very notion that nonwhite Americans should leave this country to go back to ancestral homelands to prove their worth is deeply repugnant.
Moreover, there is something especially gross about a man who was too timid even to face the draft during his own generation’s war now presuming to define how Americans seek to reform their government. He is the last person to be the arbiter of patriotism or national loyalty.
The near-total silence (at least so far) from GOP leaders is deeply dispiriting. Do they not understand the message the leader of their party is sending — especially to America’s nonwhite citizens? Do they not understand that racial malice as a political strategy isn’t just an ultimately losing proposition but also deeply divisive, picking at the scabs of America’s deepest political, cultural, and spiritual wounds?
But the problem extends far beyond Washington. There are many GOP leaders who, quite frankly, understand that they criticize even the president’s racist speech at their own peril. The grassroots have spoken. Loyalty to the president must be absolute, or one risks a primary challenge. Yet individual voters have responsibilities as well, and they must understand that extraordinary loyalty to a malicious man broadcasts their own disdain for their fellow citizens.
Let’s also deal with the idea that the one actual immigrant Trump targeted owes a special debt of gratitude to the country and therefore temper her critiques of American politics and culture. I believe Ilhan Omar is a toxic presence in American politics. Her critiques are deeply misguided. But she should temper her critiques because they’re wrong, not because she’s an immigrant.
The blessings of liberty accrue to all Americans, including immigrants. And while all Americans should be deeply grateful for their freedoms and for American opportunity, it’s a simple fact that immigrant citizens have actually done something to earn their status. They’ve often migrated here at great personal cost, learned a new language, built a life in a new land, passed a test most Americans can’t pass, and then swore an oath that most Americans have never sworn.
By contrast, what must natural-born citizens do to earn their citizenship? Survive labor and delivery. That’s it. If anything, natural-born citizens should exercise the most gratitude. What did we do to earn our liberty?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:51:18am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:52:11am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:52:54am

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

Brit Hume Shares Dictionary Definition of Racism to Argue Trump’s Comments Were Not Racist

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:53:39am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

His delusions of grandeur are intensifying.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:54:00am
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sagehen  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:54:52am

re: #222 Chrysicat

I’ll admit to the former, but the latter not so much. If you, say, hit a good payout at a track, the hundred-multiples are as Benjamins, not five-counts of 20s. I think the same at least used to be true of casinos.

Though I’ll admit, it’s not quite as common as it was before ATMs became ubiquitous, because they only dispense 20s even if you want 300 bucks at a time.

My ATM does 20’s if you’re getting 200; if you ask for 500 or more it’s mostly 50’s.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:55:28am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:55:34am

re: #243 sagehen

Fred Upton kind of halfway spoke out (though he “both sides“‘d it.)

And got called out immediately:

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Jay C  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:57:01am

re: #245 Ferdinand

The near-total silence (at least so far) from GOP leaders is deeply dispiriting. Do they not understand the message the leader of their party is sending — especially to America’s nonwhite citizens? Do they not understand that racial malice as a political strategy isn’t just an ultimately losing proposition but also deeply divisive, picking at the scabs of America’s deepest political, cultural, and spiritual wounds?
But the problem extends far beyond Washington.

Of course they “understand”.
They just don’t care.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:57:09am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:57:30am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:57:31am

If someone has a problem with this country they should leave?

Uhh, no. That’s not how it works, you orange shitgoblin. I have plenty of problems with this country, but I’m not going anywhere. I’m staying to fight against assholes like you.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:57:32am

re: #253 Anymouse 🌹

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:58:28am

He called it yesterday:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:58:57am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:59:33am

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

As I said, the GOP has decided to go all-in on white nationalism for the 2020 campaign.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:59:51am

Other GOPs wading into Trump’s racist tweets - and far more equivocating than calling him out for being a goddamned racist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:00:29am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:00:58am

My Republicypher representative is so far ignoring the firestorm around Trump.

His latest:

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Jay C  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:01:06am

re: #242 Ferdinand

PS: Rep. Will Hurd is from a district in Texas right on the US/Mexico border. (in fact, IIRC, the only border-district Republican in Congress)

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sagehen  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:01:40am

re: #242 Ferdinand

For example, I don’t know who this Hurd dude is but to see a Republican actually say “those tweets are racist” surprises me.

His district is super-skinny and 500 miles long, it runs along the border.

He’s the only Republican to vehemently oppose the wall (presumably because eminent domain, flood control and other land use issues). He has said, many times, that motion-sensitive cameras, drones, and other technology (and a slew of border patrol stations within range to respond) is the best way to secure the border.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:02:01am

Yeah, he’s a fucking racist. He’s a white supremacist, and calling on these people to leave the US is exactly what white supremacists want. They want to reassert Jim Crow and power over nonwhites. Going after those seeking asylum is signaling their intentions.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:03:42am

jeebus

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:04:13am

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:04:30am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump is now suggesting that he successfully “order”ed foreign companies to build plants in the US: “Japan and other countries are — at my absolute request, order, call it whatever you want — they’re sending tremendous and building tremendous plants now in the United States.”

where are these plants you speak of?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:04:33am

re: #232 wrenchwench

The merchant charges the penalty so that those who use plastic pay what it costs the merchant to take plastic. Card companies take from both sides of every transaction. The alternative is to raise prices for everyone, making cash-customers pay for other people’s convenient plastic.

Cash also costs money to sort, store and count, that is the trade-off

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:04:42am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:05:28am

re: #270 DangerMan

where are these plants you speak of?

I’m guessing at least one of them is that aluminum plant in Ashland, Kentucky…being built by Russians.

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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:05:46am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump said that “nobody” in the history of the United States has “stood up for the worker” like he has, repeated his false claim that his tariffs are being paid by China, repeated his false claim about having a $500B trade deficit with China, and called Joe Biden “sleepy.”

so….Monday

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:06:10am

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

Listening to the Marine Corps band play music usually attributed to Monty Python while POTUS walks by seems surreal.

The Liberty Bell March by John Phillip Sousa, but I am sure that was not just a coincidence.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:06:11am

indeed

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:08:08am
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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:08:24am

Not essentially racist. IS racist.

Trump is a racist.
Trump is a misogynist.
Trump is a self-admitted sex predator who has been credibly accused by 22 women of sex assaults.
Trump is a bigot who hired undocumented workers because he profited from it.
Trump is a liar and con artist.

All of this was evident from before he announced he was running. All of this is why the GOP voted for him. They wanted the racist bigot to be able to openly say and do the same.

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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:08:25am

re: #261 Dr Lizardo

As I said, the GOP has decided to go all-in on white nationalism for the 2020 campaign.

you support a pig, you’re a pig
you support a racist, yes, you’re a racist
you support a sexual molester, (ok, maybe you’re just an enabler)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:08:47am

re: #271 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Cash also costs money to sort, store and count, that is the trade-off

Unless you entirely eliminate cash, you have to do that anyway.

If your credit card machine goes down for any reason (or your Internet connexion), you can’t take credit cards.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:09:08am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:09:47am
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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:10:50am

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m guessing at least one of them is that aluminum plant in Ashland, Kentucky…being built by Russians.

ok, one….

yeah. “tremendous”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:11:00am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:11:41am

#RacistPresident is trending near the top of Twitter.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:12:03am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:12:32am

re: #275 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Liberty Bell March by John Phillip Sousa, but I am sure that was not just a coincidence.

when i was a kid, Monty Python was on channel 13 in New York
that was PBS so likely trump never heard of it

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William Lewis  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:13:10am

re: #217 Anymouse 🌹

Depends where you live in the USA. $50 and $100 banknotes are common here, since so much business is conducted in cash.

Even here in Northern Wisconsin, I do a fair amount of cash biz. $50 & $100 bills are in my wallet every payday. Of course they’re right out of it that same day after paying bills but that’s a different story. I generally have several bills that need to be paid in cash for various reasons.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:15:08am

re: #248 Dr. Matt

Brit Hume Shares Dictionary Definition of Racism to Argue Trump’s Comments Were Not Racist

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:16:10am

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

indeed

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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:18:53am

re: #289 goddamnedfrank

White guys sure do love us some pedantry. You know exactly who he was targeting and why, but are dead set on finding the most strained, ridiculously equivocating interpretation possible in order to preserve your own sense of comfort and proximity to power.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:19:18am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:21:38am

re: #289 goddamnedfrank

That’s why we have the verbs “operate” and “run,” because they mean different things.

Keep copulating that chicken, Mr. Hume.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:22:05am

re: #278 lawhawk

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Not essentially racist. IS racist.

Trump is a racist.
Trump is a misogynist.
Trump is a self-admitted sex predator who has been credibly accused by 22 women of sex assaults.
Trump is a bigot who hired undocumented workers because he profited from it.
Trump is a liar and con artist.

All of this was evident from before he announced he was running. All of this is why the GOP voted for him. They wanted the racist bigot to be able to openly say and do the same.

Look at the snot dripping out of his nostril.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:22:28am

re: #294 The Pie Overlord!

Thanks… but no thanks.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:22:54am

re: #287 DangerMan

For me, though, that’s instantly recognizable - it’s the Monty Python’s Flying Circus theme music.

But I guess maybe Trump’s never heard of Monty Python, or maybe saw it once, didn’t get the humor, and forgot about it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:23:31am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:23:53am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:24:37am

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’ve seen never-trumpers like Rick Wilson saying they need to make it a referendum about Trump. AOC is doing it right: you can lay into them for the shit they say while also pointing out who Dems’ policies are for a better future.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:24:40am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:24:56am

re: #296 Dr Lizardo

For me, though, that’s instantly recognizable - it’s the Monty Python’s Flying Circus theme music.

But I guess maybe Trump’s never heard of Monty Python, or maybe saw it once, didn’t get the humor, and forgot about it.

it’s like Yakety Sax/Benny Hill theme

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:25:29am

Brit Hume’s silly definitions of racism need to go on Reddit’s r/gatekeeping.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:25:35am
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sagehen  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:26:29am

re: #278 lawhawk

from that editorial:

Tell that to conservative darling Ayaan Hirsi-Ali, who left Somalia as Rep. Ilhan Omar did, who is a naturalized citizen as she is, who eviscerated the U.S. president repeatedly as was her right, drawing not a peep of criticism from Republicans because, well, that president happened to be Barack Obama.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:27:04am

re: #300 The Pie Overlord!

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Skip Intro  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:27:31am

re: #210 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Here in the US it would be Kim Kardashian.

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Targetpractice  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:27:42am

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The GOP are settling on a theme for their “concern.” Unsurprisingly, that theme is the usual one: blaming the victims.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:27:59am

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

it’s like Yakety Sax/Benny Hill theme

Exactly. Everyone knows that piece, even if they only know it as “the Benny Hill music”.

-Yakety Sax- Music

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:30:23am

LOL on Brit Hume:

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Belafon  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:30:24am

re: #248 Dr. Matt

Brit Hume Shares Dictionary Definition of Racism to Argue Trump’s Comments Were Not Racist

When you’re telling someone who is an American to go back where they came from, the xenophobia is racism.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:32:17am

re: #310 Belafon

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:33:32am

Meanwhile, in a galaxy far, far away, the Galactic Empire’s new Stormtroopers are absolutely adorable!

Pikachu The Imperial March 2

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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:34:54am

re: #296 Dr Lizardo

For me, though, that’s instantly recognizable - it’s the Monty Python’s Flying Circus theme music.

But I guess maybe Trump’s never heard of Monty Python, or maybe saw it once, didn’t get the humor, and forgot about it.

well i was being half snarky - PBS and all

though if it was shade, it was well done

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Decatur Deb  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:35:10am

Pelosi announces resolution condemning Trump for racist tweets

politico.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:36:24am

gaaaah

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Ferdinand  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:37:13am

re: #266 sagehen

His district is super-skinny and 500 miles long, it runs along the border.

He’s the only Republican to vehemently oppose the wall (presumably because eminent domain, flood control and other land use issues). He has said, many times, that motion-sensitive cameras, drones, and other technology (and a slew of border patrol stations within range to respond) is the best way to secure the border.

Thanks! Now I remember who he is.

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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:37:14am

re: #300 The Pie Overlord!

1: we have toothpaste
2: we have toilets
3: we have showers
4: we have AC
5: we have snacks
6: we have phones
7: we have Switches
8: we have clean clothes
9: we have paychecks
10: we have space
11: we have kids at home, not in cages
12: we’re not prisoners

more important than paychecks, THEY ARE VOLUNTEERS, expecting at least some adversity

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Dr. Matt  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:38:28am

The GOP have completely reverted to the dubyah years: if you criticize the potus = you hate America and you should leave the country.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:38:31am
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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:39:43am

re: #311 lawhawk

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pwned by a dictionary, and a virtual one at that

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:39:56am

re: #318 Dr. Matt

The GOP have completely reverted to the dubyah years: if you criticize the potus = you hate America and you should leave the country.

That sentiment is much older than 2000-2008. I still recall seeing “America - Love It or Leave It” bumperstickers on cars when I was a kid in the mid-1970s

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:40:25am

more Area 51:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:40:47am

re: #321 Dr Lizardo

That sentiment is much older than 2000-2008. I still recall seeing “America - Love It or Leave It” bumperstickers on cars when I was a kid in the mid-1970s

I remember it during the Vietnam years

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:42:45am

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Far left”
Hee hee hee! Are these the Trotskyite Caucus or the Maoist Central Committee? it matters a lot.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:42:51am

re: #242 Ferdinand

Rep. Will Hurd (Texas 23rd District)
Hurd told CNN, “Those tweets are racist, and xenophobic… It’s also behavior that’s unbecoming of the leader of the free world. He should be talking about things that unite, not divide us.”

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

…..
Oh no! @SenatorCollins is once again very concerned. Very concerned, gosh darn it. She might have to double her price this time, she’s so concerned….

Senator Collins on her bothsiderism finest!

Will Hurd is African American so he may have a different perspective from a typical Republican. Has Tim Scott spoken out yet?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:43:47am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:43:49am

re: #321 Dr Lizardo

That sentiment is much older than 2000-2008. I still recall seeing “America - Love It or Leave It” bumperstickers on cars when I was a kid in the mid-1970s

Yup. “Better Dead than Red” as well.

Now we get t-shirts that say “I’d rather be a Russian than a Democrat.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:44:41am

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

I remember it during the Vietnam years

The bumperstickers I remember were typically somewhat faded out, and usually on late-’60s/early ’70s cars as well. They’d probably been on those cars since the Vietnam years.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:45:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:46:21am

O_O

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:46:28am

re: #324 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“Far left”
Hee hee hee! Are these the Trotskyite Caucus or the Maoist Central Committee? it matters a lot.

Obviously, the Zinoviev/Kamenev faction. Maybe a few Bukharinites as well - those Bukharinites are sneaky little shits.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:47:10am

re: #289 goddamnedfrank

Trump’s “go back” comments were nativist, xenophobic, counterfactul and politically stupid. But they simply do not meet the standard definition of racist, a word so recklessly flung around these days that its actual meaning is being lost.

I do believe that the term “racist” gets overused, but that in this particular case, it is spot-on.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:48:07am

re: #317 DangerMan

more important than paychecks, THEY ARE VOLUNTEERS, expecting at least some adversity

And as a bit of digging revealed yesterday the photo is of a group of soldiers who run a transport helicopter battalion normally based in Long Island on a deployment in Puerto Rico flying relief supplies for Hurricane Maria in 2018.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:49:15am

re: #248 Dr. Matt

Brit Hume Shares Dictionary Definition of Racism to Argue Trump’s Comments Were Not Racist

Glad Brit Hume is still carrying on a great journalistic legacy.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:50:27am

re: #333 Feline Fearless Leader

And as a bit of digging revealed yesterday the photo is of a group of soldiers who run a transport helicopter battalion normally based in Long Island on a deployment in Puerto Rico flying relief supplies for Hurricane Maria in 2018.

On most deployments, those are the best digs you’re going to get for a while. Looked exactly like our stay in an Aviano AFB hangar on a Display Determination FTX.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:50:34am
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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:50:35am

re: #322 Backwoods_Sleuth

Meh… the military already removed all the evidence to Area 52. /

Seriously though, Groom Lake is where all the action is, not Area 51. /or is it what they want you to think

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:51:26am

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

Finally. Some good news about racists.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:52:08am

re: #337 lawhawk

Meh… the military already removed all the evidence to Area 52. /

Seriously though, Groom Lake is where all the action is, not Area 51. /or is it what they want you to think

The real shit is in a network of abandoned Walmarts, mostly in Kansas.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:53:20am

re: #339 Decatur Deb

The real shit is in a network of abandoned Walmarts, mostly in Kansas.

I thought they were in underground bunkers in Roswell?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:54:06am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:54:08am

re: #340 Eclectic Cyborg

I thought they were in underground bunkers in Roswell?

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That’s just during tornado season.

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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:54:32am

re: #332 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do believe that the term “racist” gets overused, but that in this particular case, it is spot-on.

Not at you…
The fact that a word is over used or misused doesn’t mean the rest of us have to stop using it

In fact we shouldn’t. Proper use may force it back into line

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:56:20am

re: #343 DangerMan

Not at you…
The fact that a word is over used or misused doesn’t mean the rest of us have to stop using it

In fact we shouldn’t. Proper use may force it back into line

For instance - calling someone a racist isn’t itself racist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:56:38am
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Belafon  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:56:50am

re: #339 Decatur Deb

The real shit is in a network of abandoned Walmarts, mostly in Kansas.

And the really cool stuff is being moved from Warehouse 13 to probably China.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:58:42am
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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:58:42am

re: #346 Belafon

Or offworld via a stargate.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:59:03am

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:01:00am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:01:30am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m already getting to work on the screenplay!

Methgator.

And of course, the sequel: Methgator vs Crackodile.

Thinking I’ll sell ‘em to SyFy. Can’t possibly be worse than the Sharknado films.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:02:54am

re: #341 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Despite being twelve years younger.

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Belafon  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:02:59am

re: #351 Dr Lizardo

I’m already getting to work on the screenplay!

Methgator.

And of course, the sequel: Methgator vs Crackodile.

Thinking I’ll sell ‘em to SyFy. Can’t possibly be worse than the Sharknado films.

The point of the Sharknado movies was to be bad, with sharks inside tornadoes. You’re not going to beat intentionally bad by just being better.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:03:17am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Methgators are NBD after the teeth go.

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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:05:13am

re: #346 Belafon

And the really cool stuff is being moved from Warehouse 13 to probably China.

my friends, they are not moving the aliens now because 5ook yahoos on the internet say they are gonna swarm the place

they moved the stuff years ago, when area 51 was first ‘discovered’ by the public

long before there was this piker Q, there was…., no, i think i shouldnt say on an open channel. not even behind privacy tags. you can figure it out

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:05:33am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:05:53am

It was definitely racist. I’m so sick of this fucking shit from other white people who think that something has to be wearing a Klan hood or swastika to be racist or “worse” to be a person of color talking honestly about racism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:06:23am

re: #356 The Pie Overlord!

Ilhan Omar never said “Al Qaeda is great” but Tucker Carlson made up a lie that she did.

They can only double down and ramp up the noise level.

And it works every time.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:06:27am

re: #354 Decatur Deb

They’re now Tweakasaurus.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:06:44am

re: #356 The Pie Overlord!

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He’s trying to get her killed. Go fuck yoursekf guy who bragged about his building size after 9/11.

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lawhawk  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:06:46am

re: #357 HappyWarrior

It was definitely racist. I’m so sick of this fucking shit from other white people who think that something has to be wearing a Klan hood or swastika to be racist or “worse” to be a person of color talking honestly about racism.

Because it’d be an admission that their own actions or words are racist.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:07:21am

re: #361 lawhawk

Because it’d be an admission that their own actions or words are racist.

Yep. Precisely

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:07:59am

re: #356 The Pie Overlord!

This senile, disgusting old fuck is un-American.

He needs to go. ASAP.

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ericblair  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:08:09am

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

Italian police have seized an air-to-air missile and a huge stash of automatic weapons during raids on far-right groups. The discoveries stemmed from a previous investigation into Italians who took part in the Russian-backed insurgency in eastern #Ukraine.

This is happening when the right wing asshole PM Salvini’s party is on tape agreeing to an illegal kickback scheme from a Russian oil company. Apparently most Italians are not very happy, and the courts have opened a criminal case. So, elect a bunch of nationalist shitheads and get turned into a Russian arms depot and safe house.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:08:24am

re: #363 Dr Lizardo

This senile, disgusting old fuck is un-American.

He needs to go. ASAP.

He really does.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:09:09am

re: #359 Eric The Fruit Bat

They’re now Tweakasaurus.

I’ll give you credit for the third installment!

Methgator vs Tweakasaurus.

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DangerMan  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:11:13am

re: #354 Decatur Deb

Methgators are NBD after the teeth go.

Mrs dm says methgator sounds like a gator that farts a lot

Work on a better title

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dirkdigglerjr  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:18:25am

re: #351 Dr Lizardo

Here’s one of my favorite B movies from 1980 and written by the great John Sayles

Alligator 1980 - Trailer

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plansbandc  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:28:38am

re: #339 Decatur Deb

Hmm. And here I thought it was all in the underground bases in New Mexico.

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Old Liberal  Jul 15, 2019 • 12:31:56pm

re: #318 Dr. Matt

The GOP have completely reverted to the dubyah years: if you criticize the potus = you hate America and you should leave the country.

Yep. Which was a rerun from Reagan which was originated by Nixon.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 15, 2019 • 12:43:39pm

re: #144 Targetpractice

A rule change that they’ll claim is based upon the law, putting on the weigh on the “first safe country” language that they insist means any refugees must seek asylum in any country between their home and the US.

Even though they demean Mexico as only drug lord thugs and a failed nation shithole. But wen it is needed they refer to it as a “safe country”. Guess that is in the same vein as “They are lazy welfare moochers that are coming here to steal our jobs”.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 15, 2019 • 12:46:11pm

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹

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I’m with her, Popeye’s is better than Church’s.


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