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jaunte  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:38:15pm

The president is a bigot. Patriots can’t stay silent on racist remarks. [Editorial]
By The Houston Chronicle Editorial Board July 14, 2019 Updated: July 15, 2019 6:38 p.m.

“…We can’t allow ourselves to start viewing this behavior as normal, as “Trump being Trump.” Whether motivated by racism, politics, mental instability or all of the above, the impact of Trump’s comments don’t expire with the next news cycle.

They gnaw at the fabric of this country. Trump uses Twitter for “official purposes.” We should be horrified that one such purpose is for demeaning the office of the president. We should condemn elected officials whose silence equals complicity.

It is their duty — and ours — to speak out against Trump’s hate-filled rhetoric, which is corrosive to America’s fragile unity and treasonous to the ideals upon which it stands.”houstonchronicle.com

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gocart mozart  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:40:41pm

I’m blocked by Harry Turdledove and I have no idea why. This sucks. I conversed with him many times, he has liked some of my tweets, I don’t remember saying anything at all offensive.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:41:31pm

WTH could President Obama do?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:41:52pm

re: #1 jaunte

The president is a bigot. Patriots can’t stay silent on racist remarks. [Editorial]
By The Houston Chronicle Editorial Board July 14, 2019 Updated: July 15, 2019 6:38 p.m.

That’s great. I didn’t know this day but the Chronicle has the third highest daily circulation in the country and it’s in a red state no less.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:44:08pm

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

WTH could President Obama do?

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We didn’t appreciate him when he was potus at all. By we I mean the country as a whole not you or Lizardom.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:45:14pm
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jaunte  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:47:59pm

re: #6 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Lindsey Graham, today, on Fox & Friends: “We all know that [@AOC] and this crowd are a bunch of communists, they hate Israel, they hate our own country.”

Despite the media play put on while John McCain was alive, Lindsey Graham has always been a horrible human.

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gocart mozart  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:48:30pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:48:43pm

Wow, the last thread competing for “shortest at Little Green Footballs.”

As a reminder of what the AP Style Guide has to say about the New York Times doing its damn best to make sure Maggie Habermann continues to have access to Trump’s speed dial. I have a copy of the AP Style Guide (from my former editing job and convenient when I write a letter to the regional newspaper).

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:48:47pm

re: #6 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Because Mexico’s President doesn’t kiss Trump’s ass and Mexico isn’t part of some sick rapture fantasy. Trump has gone after far more allies in far more ugly ways than any of the four Congresswomen criticized Israel. TBH this standard with Israel is really getting ridiculous. And I blame Nethanyu for it because he’s nothing but a racist crook who treated our First African American President with contempt because of his own racism.

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gocart mozart  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:49:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:51:02pm

re: #11 gocart mozart

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She actually does believe in religious freedom which is something you can’t say about Trump and the fundamentalists that kiss his ass.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:53:54pm

AOC is somehow disrespecting Holocaust victims to call these camps concentration camps even though she did nit specifically reference the Holocaust but a member of Bibi’s government can call American Jews marrying outside their faith the Holocaust. Bibi and his government disrespect Holocaust victims everyday including their own family members by engaging in the same ugly bigotry that led to the Holocaust.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:55:06pm

re: #9 Anymouse 🌹

Edited for apostrophe abuse.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:58:24pm

re: #11 gocart mozart

A slew of conservatives in there proving Rep. Omar’s point with racist attacks on her, “you’re the real racist,” the same bullshyte claim about marrying her brother to become an “illegal immigrant,” &c.

It is a target-rich environment for Twitterati here for blocking or reporting racism.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 7:58:37pm

This is the most disgusted I’ve ever been with an American President in my 32 years. There’s so much ugliness about this son of a bitch. Not a single redeemable quality. Someone whose values are not from the Enlightenment or the basic fundamental values we learn at a young age but someone whose philosophy is rooted in autocracy, exclusion, & bigotry for anyone who isn’t like him.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:00:43pm

CLed
Hi gang! I’m back, sort of.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:00:57pm

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹

A slew of conservatives in there proving Rep. Omar’s point with racist attacks on her, “you’re the real racist,” the same bullshyte claim about marrying her brother to become an “illegal immigrant,” &c.

It is a target-rich environment for Twitterati here for blocking or reporting racism.

Those pigs should answer what Judge Curiel’s parents place of birth had to do with him judging Don the Con’s fraud case. He is a racist. And the entire Republican Party enables it either out of agreement or fear of displeasing him. Either way, they shouldn’t be trusted with any political power.

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jaunte  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:01:39pm

re: #9 Anymouse 🌹

The sheer quantity of Trump and Trumpers racist flatulence is making me heartily tired of the word “trope.”

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:01:51pm
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retired cynic  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:02:14pm

re: #17 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Hooray! Rest up so you can smite ‘em hip and thigh tomorrow.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:03:28pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

This is the most disgusted I’ve ever been with an American President in my 32 years. There’s so much ugliness about this son of a bitch. Not a single redeemable quality. Someone whose values are not from the Enlightenment or the basic fundamental values we learn at a young age but someone whose philosophy is rooted in autocracy, exclusion, & bigotry for anyone who isn’t like him.

You’re just trying to make me feel old. /s

There’s the historical record for me of Goldwater’s invitation to the Klan and the John Birch Society into the GOP.

There was Nixon’s anti-Semitism, and his “war on drugs” calculated to disenfranchise black voters using Jim Crow felony laws.

I was disgusted at the racism and callous disregard for the AIDS issue from Ronald Reagan.

Then it got worse with GHW Bush’s attack on atheists.

There is no bottom to conservatism. The next one to come along after Trump will be worse (you can bookmark that).

Every generation coming up must be taught what conservatism is really about.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:04:55pm

re: #20 Ace-o-aces

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What a loser he is. Yeah Ben they made a fictional character female. Oh no! But it’s we liberals who are outraged all the time. At least we’re bothered by reality. No wonder why no one will hire you as a lawyer, you’re like the joke about the doctor who finishes last in medical school, you probably just barely passed the bar.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:09:06pm

re: #17 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

CLed
Hi gang! I’m back, sort of.

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calochortus  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:10:07pm

re: #17 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

CLed
Hi gang! I’m back, sort of.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:12:01pm

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹

You’re just trying to make me feel old. /s

There’s the historical record for me of Goldwater’s invitation to the Klan and the John Birch Society into the GOP.

There was Nixon’s anti-Semitism, and his “war on drugs” calculated to disenfranchise black voters using Jim Crow felony laws.

I was disgusted at the racism and callous disregard for the AIDS issue from Ronald Reagan.

Then it got worse with GHW Bush’s attack on atheists.

There is no bottom to conservatism. The next one to come along after Trump will be worse (you can bookmark that).

Every generation coming up must be taught what conservatism is really about.

I’m aware of all that. I don’t need a history lesson. However, that’s how I feel. Trump to me stands out even compared to those other assholes. That’s my point.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:14:01pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

I’m aware of all that. I don’t need a history lesson. However, that’s how I feel. Trump to me stands out even compared to those other assholes. That’s my point.

Sorry, I wasn’t trying to be a history pedant.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:16:22pm

re: #27 Anymouse 🌹

Sorry, I wasn’t trying to be a history pedant.

It’s cool. I’m just saying. That Trump disgusts me compared to his predecessors really says a lot. It doesn’t absolve them of their crimes and sins at all.

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Belafon  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:18:50pm
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Belafon  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:20:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:21:53pm

re: #30 Belafon

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The media definitely enabled his rise by treating him like an amusing curiosity rather than the fascist racist fuck he is.

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plansbandc  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:22:08pm

A fine generated headline

TRUMP DABBLES IN ART OF PEARL-CLUTCHING RACIAL FUMBLE

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plansbandc  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:23:50pm

re: #17 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Belafon  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:26:44pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:28:26pm

re: #34 Belafon

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That’s the America I love. The one that is willing to help out complete strangers without expecting something in return.

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plansbandc  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:30:50pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:34:13pm

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

WTH could President Obama do?

Be less black, apparently.

re: #30 Belafon

I’ve seen a lot of euphemisms suggested in that dragging from Nate Silver of the New York Times:

Racism, worst vodka infusion ever.
A homeopathic remedy of racism.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:40:56pm

Well I’m calling it a night. I wonder how that pig will act between now and when I have my first cup tomorrow.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:44:08pm

Responding to Prime Minister Theresa May’s condemnation of Donald Trump with a photograph of one of her advert vans from when she was Home Secretary:

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BigPapa  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:48:22pm

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plansbandc  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:50:58pm

Fart like a Clydesdale?! LMAO

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:51:49pm

(Apparently “Mike Zellhart” doesn’t know Ms. Shoenkopf is the owner of Wonkette)

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BigPapa  Jul 15, 2019 • 8:52:28pm

re: #41 plansbandc

don’t fluff with a ciabatta, try the sourdough fer chrissakes

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austin_blue  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:00:19pm

re: #17 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

CLed
Hi gang! I’m back, sort of.

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Would you please do whatever they ask and take care of yourself?

Asking for a friend.

Me.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:03:13pm
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jaunte  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:07:02pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:10:05pm

An older thread, fourteen tweets.

It outlines the racist history of square dance becoming the official folk dance of most states (backed with evidence), and the fact it wasn’t actually invented until the XX Century (thus not a folk dance when it was promoted).

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:12:27pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

AOC is somehow disrespecting Holocaust victims to call these camps concentration camps even though she did nit specifically reference the Holocaust but a member of Bibi’s government can call American Jews marrying outside their faith the Holocaust. Bibi and his government disrespect Holocaust victims everyday including their own family members by engaging in the same ugly bigotry that led to the Holocaust.

Add this in the mix that pisses me off about Booby Nincompoopo

washingtonpost.com

Israel’s newly appointed education minister has ignited an angry backlash after saying in a televised interview broadcast Saturday that he believes it is possible to perform conversion therapy on gay men and lesbians to change their sexual orientation.

Rabbi Rafi Peretz, head of the far-right, ultranationalist Jewish Home Party, also told Channel 12 News that he had personally carried out such treatments in the past, counseling young religious students who spoke to him about being gay.

“I think it is possible. I can tell you I have a very deep familiarity with this kind of education, and I have also done this,” the minister said when asked whether he thought people could change their orientations.

Peretz, a former chief military rabbi, described counseling one student, saying: “I hugged him first, then uttered very warm words. I told him that we needed to think about this, learn about this, observe this. The objective is for him first of all to know himself, and then I can give him the data.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:15:00pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹

An older thread, fourteen tweets.

It outlines the racist history of square dance becoming the official folk dance of most states (backed with evidence), and the fact it wasn’t actually invented until the XX Century (thus not a folk dance when it was promoted).

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And why am I not surprised Old Fart Ford had his anti-semetic fingers in this?

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jaunte  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:15:39pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹

Back in junior high I wondered why they were having us practice square dancing when none of the adults did it.

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BigPapa  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:16:52pm

quicksand porn? Okay

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:17:56pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:18:37pm

re: #50 jaunte

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Back in junior high I wondered why they were having us practice square dancing when none of the adults did it.

Mom pulled me out of square dance practice. She never did tell me why but I got a feeling she knew about Ford who she really hated…

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BigPapa  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:20:32pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:25:31pm

re: #51 BigPapa

quicksand porn? Okay

It’s a thing.

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jaunte  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:27:08pm

Quicksand and getting your scuba hose cut were the two big dramatic threats in 1960’s adventure television.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:27:32pm

re: #49 Joe Bacon 🌹

And why am I not surprised Old Fart Ford had his anti-semetic fingers in this?

Robyn Pennacchia cited her article for her research into most states making square dance the official folk dance of the state.

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jaunte  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:28:01pm

Not sure if there’s scuba hose porn.

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jeffreyw  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:29:53pm

re: #51 BigPapa

quicksand porn? Okay

It’s real, I thought I was out but it pulled back in.

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austin_blue  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:32:31pm

re: #48 Joe Bacon 🌹

Add this in the mix that pisses me off about Booby Nincompoopo

washingtonpost.com

Israel’s newly appointed education minister has ignited an angry backlash after saying in a televised interview broadcast Saturday that he believes it is possible to perform conversion therapy on gay men and lesbians to change their sexual orientation.

Rabbi Rafi Peretz, head of the far-right, ultranationalist Jewish Home Party, also told Channel 12 News that he had personally carried out such treatments in the past, counseling young religious students who spoke to him about being gay.

“I think it is possible. I can tell you I have a very deep familiarity with this kind of education, and I have also done this,” the minister said when asked whether he thought people could change their orientations.

Peretz, a former chief military rabbi, described counseling one student, saying: “I hugged him first, then uttered very warm words. I told him that we needed to think about this, learn about this, observe this. The objective is for him first of all to know himself, and then I can give him the data.”

Does he also believe there is a conversion therapy to convert straight men and women to gays and lesbians? I mean, who wouldn’t want to be pariahs to the majority of their societies? On the upside, they could be Reality TV stars for Queer Eye For The Straight Guy.

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austin_blue  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:37:17pm

Night all. Sweet scaly dreams.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:40:33pm

re: #56 jaunte

Quicksand and getting your scuba hose cut were the two big dramatic threats in 1960’s adventure television.

I remember watching Sea Hunt when I was a kid and almost every other episode had The Bad Guy cutting Lloyd Bridges’ scuba hose…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:41:50pm

re: #58 jaunte

Not sure if there’s scuba hose porn.

Yes. Type “scuba” into Pornhub.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:44:24pm

re: #60 austin_blue

Does he also believe there is a conversion therapy to convert straight men and women to gays and lesbians? I mean, who wouldn’t want to be pariahs to the majority of their societies? On the upside, they could be Reality TV stars for Queer Eye For The Straight Guy.

The same old argument with conservatives.

“Teh Geyh is a lifestyle choice.”

Okay, you’re straight, is that a lifestyle choice?

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BigPapa  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:45:24pm

re: #56 jaunte

Quicksand and getting your scuba hose cut were the two big dramatic threats in 1960’s adventure television.

is this where the man would slap the hysterical woman to help her out?

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mmmirele  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:48:28pm

I am not a fan of the right-wing Cuban exiles. However, when it looks like the Trump administration is throwing out an exile who has lived here for over a half-century for what appears to be bogus reasons, yeah, it’s unnerving.

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services has again denied permanent residence to Ramón Saúl Sánchez, leader of the Democracy Movement and a prominent member of the Cuban exile community in Miami.

Sánchez is now in an immigration limbo and could be deported to Cuba, which he left as a child 52 years ago.

“Sadly, I report to you that the U.S. government has denied me residence with a 17-page list of justifications. I am grateful for the 52 years lived in this generous land which I have come to love like my other homeland. I will continue my fight for a free Cuba,” Sánchez wrote on his Twitter account Monday.

*snip*

When Sánchez and his brother landed at Miami International Airport in 1967, he was allowed entry under parole, a special immigration category for refugees. Sánchez never changed his status to permanent resident under the 1966 Cuban Adjustment Act. Like many other Cubans of his generation, he believed that assuming a new citizenship was betraying the cause of Cuban freedom.

miamiherald.com

If memory serves, up until fairly recently you couldn’t hold dual citizenship as a US citizen. Now you can, but apparently that doesn’t help this guy. But yet again, here we are, throwing someone out who has lived here most of his life.

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John Hughes  Jul 15, 2019 • 9:57:03pm

re: #2 gocart mozart

I’m blocked by Harry Turdledove and I have no idea why.

Possibly for misspelling his name?

Sorry, couldn’t resist.

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plansbandc  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:00:20pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:18:52pm

let’s all give trump a hearty round of applause for elevating our wonderful AOC and The Squad to SUPERSTAR status

i am so happy to see the Progressive Movement of the Future truly arrive and take its place on the american scene!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:35:17pm

re: #66 mmmirele

I am not a fan of the right-wing Cuban exiles. However, when it looks like the Trump administration is throwing out an exile who has lived here for over a half-century for what appears to be bogus reasons, yeah, it’s unnerving.

miamiherald.com

If memory serves, up until fairly recently you couldn’t hold dual citizenship as a US citizen. Now you can, but apparently that doesn’t help this guy. But yet again, here we are, throwing someone out who has lived here most of his life.

Leopards, faces, &c.

As I understand Cuban-American politics, the older members are supporters of Fulgenico Batista (basically fascists).

if this fellow was here under the old parole programme, he couldn’t vote, but most elderly Cuban-Americans can. I imagine this will only accelerate abandonment of the GOP by the community.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:38:12pm

re: #52 Ace-o-aces

Mitt Romney

@MittRomney
* 7h
Replying to @MittRomney
People can disagree over politics and policy, but telling American citizens to go back to where they came from is over the line.

aceoaces
@aceoaces
If Mitt was a Senator during WWII:
People can disagree about religion, but what Hitler is doing to the Jews is over the line.

11:11 PM - Jul 15, 2019

The one thing that you can say about the current incarnation of Mitt — he’s always a follower, never a leader. He waited for others to issue half hearted criticisms of Trump before expanding — barely — on his initial comments.

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BigPapa  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:42:58pm

welp

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Dread Pirate  Jul 15, 2019 • 10:49:09pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:05:32pm

re: #71 Hecuba’s daughter

The one thing that you can say about the current incarnation of Mitt — he’s always a follower, never a leader. He waited for others to issue half hearted criticisms of Trump before expanding — barely — on his initial comments.

And as I mentioned before, he’s a hypocrite. His campaign for president included the racist “self-deportation” nonsense promoted by Gov. Pete Wilson of California under Proposition 187. William Safire described it as the most cost-effective way to change behaviour is to make life unbearable under present conditions (the cruelty is the point written as policy for the Republicans).

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:06:37pm

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹

Yes. Type “scuba” into Pornhub.

NO

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:08:48pm

re: #75 The Ghost of Quesos Past

NO

Try “quicksand” then.

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Cheechako  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:12:24pm

Alaska’s Governor, Mike Dunleavy (R), is now a contender for the worst political photograph of the year:

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:24:35pm

re: #77 Cheechako

Alaska’s Governor, Mike Dunleavy (R), is now a contender for the worst political photograph of the year:

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If he worked really hard at it, I’ll bet he could beat Sarah Palin’s turkey pardon/slaughter video.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:39:05pm

lol

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CleverToad  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:50:56pm

re: #17 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

*double upding* Glad to hear it, on both threads!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 15, 2019 • 11:56:17pm

Founder of neo-Nazi site Daily Stormer should pay $14 million to victim of ‘troll storm,’ judge says (NBC)

The founder and editor of the neo-Nazi website The Daily Stormer should be ordered to pay more than $14 million to a Montana real estate agent against whom he organized an anti-Semitic “troll storm,” a federal magistrate judge found on Monday.

The judgment was filed Monday in U.S. District Court in Missoula, Montana, against Andrew Anglin, who encouraged the online intimidation campaign against Tanya Gersh, a Jewish real estate agent in the Montana resort town of Whitefish, her husband and their 12-year-old son.

(more at the link)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 12:01:01am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 12:07:49am

Rick Wilson being called out in a thread for enabling the rise of Trump after he wrote this.

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Jul 16, 2019 • 12:18:21am

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹

There’s just so many layers of stupid to getting mad about a lady 007.

Bond is a multi-layered wish fulfillment fantasy. He’s a Cold War competence fantasy (as opposed to the deeply mixed results produced by MI6) and an imperialist fantasy (tramping around the world in a fucking tux being differed to) addressing British, erm…post War inadequacies.

He’s also not such much actually competent as that movie-competence where you don’t actually do anything right but being “cool” means you eke out the win. In contrast to the grubby effortful praxis of real spies, and in particularly the really good spies (see: Ben MacIntyre’s histories or the painfully tense and precise spy fiction of John LeCarre), Bond has an unlimited expense account, is constantly flashy and leaves behind a giant debris field, and his (rape-y) sexual activity doesn’t get him immediately yanked from the field because he’s basically made of kompromat.

The character is entertaining, but has never made sense, never depicted espionage in any meaningful way (in spite of Fleming’s own experiences) since the original pieces of short fiction, and even the “realistic” Bond reboot is fucking ridiculous.

This is such a stupid hill to take a stand on, but the outrage hustlers will do it because it’s about nobody else getting to have a fantasy. They’ll dress it up as about “realism” or propose that an altered version is somehow more silly (to which I retort—any Roger Moore Bond film. I mean, I was weaned on them but gods are they ridiculous).

eta: shit, I didn’t even address how historically, there’s enough women that become incredible espionage agents that any claims about “realism” are just fucking laughable…even if you don’t take the next step and observe that extant Bond films are full of female spies that Bond seduces…. But basically we’re dealing with paste-eating narcissists who feel like they’re losing control of the world when video game tits don’t meet their expectations, and I should probably just drink more rather than think about any of this.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 12:22:55am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹

Good to see there’s a judgement against Anglin for that shit. Sadly though, no one even knows his current whereabouts. It’s been speculated that he may well be in Russia, which would make some sense, as he wouldn’t need to fear being extradited back to the US in a worst-case scenario.

I don’t know what kind of assets he’s got that’s not tied up in cryptocurrency.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 1:03:40am

(He is here on political asylum, they jailed him anyway for deportation)
The media better start paying attention to this as they keep trying to Chucktodderise everything Republicans do. They’ll be next. Addiction to political access can be hazardous to your health, and may complicate pregnancy—Surgeon General, maybe

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 1:09:52am

re: #84 The Ghost of Quesos Past

If James Bond existed as a real spy:

“My name is Bond, James Bond. I’ll have a vodka martini, shaken, not stirred.”

(Every foreign agent in the room opens fire on him.)

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Dread Pirate  Jul 16, 2019 • 1:34:14am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 1:53:38am

re: #88 Dread Pirate

LOLWUT?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 1:54:15am

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹

If James Bond existed as a real spy:

“My name is Bond, James Bond. I’ll have a vodka martini, shaken, not stirred.”

(Every foreign agent in the room opens fire on him.)

Exactly.

This fictional superspy, this master assassin, literally licensed to kill on behalf of the British Monarch, would end up looking like a block of Swiss cheese the instant he opened his mouth.

Every hostile intel agency on the planet (and non-state actors, too) would be gunning for this clown and whomever finally plugged him would be rewarded quite handsomely.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 1:55:34am

re: #88 Dread Pirate

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹

Seems to be some kind of brain-eating virus running rampant among Republicans. Hopefully, the CDC is on the case.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 1:58:10am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 2:47:44am

Glad for AliExpress - it’s a money saver.

Today, my order arrived; a package of 20 KangerTech 1.5 ohm coils for my e-cigarette. Total cost (free shipping) was $12.95, about 295 Kč, so that’s about $0.65 each, or about 15 Kč each.

Here in Czech Republic, generic no-name replacement coils sell for about 79 Kč/piece, which works out to roughly $3.50/coil. KangerTech branded coils are about 115 Kč/piece, or $5.05/each.

Big savings, to say the least. And it arrived quickly too. About three weeks.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 2:51:27am

re: #90 Dr Lizardo

As the meltdown over a female James Bond continues on the never-ending grievance train which is the right, it would be a shame if someone told them that James is also a woman’s name.

It is not as common as it was in the past for baby girls. That said, the other James in my town is a Millenial woman.

James (girl) (goes to Baby Name Wizard, with charts, famous women and girls named James, and other information about the name)

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 2:56:56am

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹

As the meltdown over a female James Bond continues on the never-ending grievance train which is the right, it would be a shame if someone told them that James is also a woman’s name.

It is not as common as it was in the past for baby girls. That said, the other James in my town is a Millenial woman.

James (girl) (goes to Baby Name Wizard, with charts, famous women and girls named James, and other information about the name)

I had no idea James was a name for girls and women as well. It must’ve become an almost entirely masculine name before I was born in 1969 as I’ve never met a woman named James.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 2:59:16am

re: #95 Dr Lizardo

I had no idea James was a name for girls and women as well. It must’ve become an almost entirely masculine name before I was born in 1969 as I’ve never a woman named James.

It was considered a unisex name until the middle of the XX Century. It peaked in the USA around the Thirties.

It is far less common for men and boys now, as it peaked in the Sixties and fell off dramatically.

The name appears to be headed the way of other no-longer used names.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 3:00:50am

re: #95 Dr Lizardo

I had no idea James was a name for girls and women as well. It must’ve become an almost entirely masculine name before I was born in 1969 as I’ve never a woman named James.

It’s rare. But Ben is being an idiot again. She’s not playing Bond. She’s playing 007. M was originally played by a man and now Dame Judi Dench’s M is as iconic as Bernard Lee’s was. I seriously feel bad for Ben’s little girl that he views women this way.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 3:02:34am

Wow, when you’re too racist for the National Review:

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 3:04:24am

re: #97 HappyWarrior

It’s rare. But Ben is being an idiot again. She’s not playing Bond. She’s playing 007. M was originally played by a man and now Dame Judi Dench’s M is as iconic as Bernard Lee’s was. I seriously feel bad for Ben’s little girl that he views women this way.

Exactly - these nitwits are freaking about the agent code number, which presumably can be reassigned as needed. From what I can gather, the synopsis of this is that James Bond has retired, and thus his code number, 007, was reassigned to a new agent. He comes out of retirement, and the 007 code number is given back to him.

They’re freaking out over a code number. The code number of a fictitious superspy that couldn’t possibly exist in the real world because they would’ve been killed by hostile powers long, long ago.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 3:10:48am

re: #99 Dr Lizardo

Exactly - these nitwits are freaking about the agent code number, which presumably can be reassigned as needed. From what I can gather, the synopsis of this is that James Bond has retired, and thus his code number, 007, was reassigned to a new agent. He comes out of retirement, and the 007 code number is given back to him.

They’re freaking out over a code number. The code number of a fictitious superspy that couldn’t possibly exist in the real world because they would’ve been killed by hostile powers long, long ago.

Yeah that’s the story I’m seeing too. Btw this is why Ben is full of shit when he claims to dislike Trump. He’s using his influence to talk about this rather than Trumps racism. He’s such a pathetic little manchild.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 3:13:29am

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Yeah that’s the story I’m seeing too. Btw this is why Ben is full of shit when he claims to dislike Trump. He’s using his influence to talk about this rather than Trumps racism. He’s such a pathetic little manchild.

Most likely, Ben simply doesn’t see Trump’s racist and bigoted attitudes as a problem because he likely shares similar views. For Ben, it’s not an issue.

He’s a pathetic hack and a sad little manbaby.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 3:21:11am

re: #101 Dr Lizardo

Most likely, Ben simply doesn’t see Trump’s racist and bigoted attitudes as a problem because he likely shares similar views. For Ben, it’s not an issue.

He’s a pathetic hack and a sad little manbaby.

Exactly. He’s as bigoted as Trump is. I think he only doesn’t like Trump is because Trump uses populist rhetoric and Ben would prefer a full out elitist dickhead. But yeah this is exactly why he should be laughed at. 11 minute rant over a fictional character and as I said it’s not even Bond she’s playing. I wonder what upset him more though, that the character is female or black. He should read about Josephine Baker but that would mean getting out of his boys rule, girls drool clubhouse aka The Daily Wire.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 3:23:59am

Off to the supermarket. Back in a bit.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 3:24:17am

wpc.ncep.noaa.gov
Latest update on Tropical Depression Barry.

The Weather Prediction Center has downgraded it to a post-tropical cyclone. It is currently near Springfield, Missouri, still moving toward St. Louis.

All sorts of flash flood warnings are up for the central and lower Mississippi River valley.

Barry is still accelerating to the NE. It is expected to maintain strength for a day or two, then dissipate in about three days.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 3:28:47am

Day 3 of the WPC national weather chart shows post-tropical depression Barry approaching Philadelphia.

PhillyPretzel isn’t out of the rains yet.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:07:46am

I’m off to bed.
(video, 9:51)

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:09:18am

re: #95 Dr Lizardo

I had no idea James was a name for girls and women as well. It must’ve become an almost entirely masculine name before I was born in 1969 as I’ve never met a woman named James.

Why not? Michael is.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:19:44am

re: #107 MsJ

Why not? Michael is.

I have a first cousin once-removed named Michael. She likes her name.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:20:38am

re: #107 MsJ

Why not? Michael is.

Conversely, my Great Grandfather was Jan originally but that’s a Slavic reference lol. Joking aside, it would have me laughing if this was the only thing going on.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:25:30am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

About 30 yrs ago I worked with a young woman my age named Scott.

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jeffreyw  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:28:50am

Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:29:29am

re: #110 A Mom Anon

About 30 yrs ago I worked with a young woman my age named Scott.

It’s not common anymore but a lot of Catholic men used to get the middle name Maria or Mary. The most famous that comes to mind is Erich Maria Remarque, author of All Quiet on the Western Front.

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Scout  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:30:17am

It’s my belief this outburst of racism is 100 percent calculated and choreographed.

To wit:

Trump voter: ‘He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting’
MSNBC
By Steve Benen

Link

He sees himself as shoring up the base.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:45:00am

Meanwhile, legal woes are intensifying for Czech PM Andrej Babiš:

The police initiated criminal proceedings in connection with the management of the Čapí hnízdo farm for suspicion of a tax evasion. Criminal investigators began to investigate the case at the beginning of spring, considering the suspicion of tax evasion seriously according to media. Agrofert spokesman Karel Hanzelka said that the company is not yet familiar with it, but insists that everything was legal.

Original in Czech: idnes.cz

which you can run through a translation program.

Now Babiš is not only under investigation for EU subsidies fraud, but tax fraud as well. This story just broke a few hours ago.

His scandal-plagued government is already teetering on the brink of collapse.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:46:04am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Conversely, my Great Grandfather was Jan originally but that’s a Slavic reference lol. Joking aside, it would have me laughing if this was the only thing going on.

Jan is still a very common name for guys here in Czech Republic - “Honzá” is the nickname form.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:47:15am

re: #112 HappyWarrior

It’s not common anymore but a lot of Catholic men used to get the middle name Maria or Mary. The most famous that comes to mind is Erich Maria Remarque, author of All Quiet on the Western Front.

Klaus Maria Brandauer, the Austrian actor and director.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:50:17am

re: #114 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, legal woes are intensifying for Czech PM Andrej Babiš:

Original in Czech: idnes.cz

which you can run through a translation program.

Now Babiš is not only under investigation for EU subsidies fraud, but tax fraud as well. This story just broke a few hours ago.

His scandal-plagued government is already teetering on the brink of collapse.

I just hope your hosts follow their Slovak cousins and elect someone who isn’t a nationalist.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:51:00am

re: #116 Dr Lizardo

Klaus Maria Brandauer, the Austrian actor and director.

Yeah I see it a lot in the German speaking Catholics usually Austrians or Bavarians.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:52:50am

re: #115 Dr Lizardo

Jan is still a very common name for guys here in Czech Republic - “Honzá” is the nickname form.

Ah! Cool. But yeah I’m not surprised. It’s pretty big in Poland too. The South Slavs have Janez and I have a few of them too.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:56:25am

re: #117 HappyWarrior

I just hope your hosts follow their Slovak cousins and elect someone who isn’t a nationalist.

The political scene here in ČR is a fucking mess. Slovakia is an island of sanity in comparison.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:19:51am

Some interesting news from Berlin:

The state of Berlin has bought back 670 apartments on the historic Karl-Marx-Allee from a private owner after decades of property privatisation in the German capital.

It’s not gonna be cheap, though:

While the price of the sale was not confirmed by either side, the move to renationalise the buildings on Karl-Marx-Allee is likely to come at a steep cost, with estimates ranging between €90m-€100m (£80m-£90m).

Berlin’s mayor said the move was indicative of a wider strategy to reacquire housing stock sold to private investors in the 1990s, following rapid rises in rental costs in the city in recent years.

“Berliners should be able to continue to afford living in the city,” said Michael Müller. “That is why it was and continues to be our intention to buy up apartments wherever we can, so that Berlin can regain control of its property market.”

theguardian.com

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steve_davis  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:20:49am

re: #48 Joe Bacon 🌹

Add this in the mix that pisses me off about Booby Nincompoopo

washingtonpost.com

Israel’s newly appointed education minister has ignited an angry backlash after saying in a televised interview broadcast Saturday that he believes it is possible to perform conversion therapy on gay men and lesbians to change their sexual orientation.

Rabbi Rafi Peretz, head of the far-right, ultranationalist Jewish Home Party, also told Channel 12 News that he had personally carried out such treatments in the past, counseling young religious students who spoke to him about being gay.

“I think it is possible. I can tell you I have a very deep familiarity with this kind of education, and I have also done this,” the minister said when asked whether he thought people could change their orientations.

Peretz, a former chief military rabbi, described counseling one student, saying: “I hugged him first, then uttered very warm words. I told him that we needed to think about this, learn about this, observe this. The objective is for him first of all to know himself, and then I can give him the data.”

He hugged him first, then gave him very warm words. Hey rabbi! That data you’re trying to give him doesn’t use that port, you bastard!

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sagehen  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:25:25am

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

WTH could President Obama do?

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politics.theonion.com

Black Man Given Nation’s Worst Job
11/04/08 11:30pm

WASHINGTON—African-American man Barack Obama, 47, was given the least-desirable job in the entire country Tuesday when he was elected president of the United States of America. In his new high-stress, low-reward position, Obama will be charged with such tasks as completely overhauling the nation’s broken-down economy, repairing the crumbling infrastructure, and generally having to please more than 300 million Americans and cater to their every whim on a daily basis. As part of his duties, the black man will have to spend four to eight years cleaning up the messes other people left behind. The job comes with such intense scrutiny and so certain a guarantee of failure that only one other person even bothered applying for it. Said scholar and activist Mark L. Denton, “It just goes to show you that, in this country, a black man still can’t catch a break.”

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steve_davis  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:29:57am

re: #84 The Ghost of Quesos Past

There’s just so many layers of stupid to getting mad about a lady 007.

Bond is a multi-layered wish fulfillment fantasy. He’s a Cold War competence fantasy (as opposed to the deeply mixed results produced by MI6) and an imperialist fantasy (tramping around the world in a fucking tux being differed to) addressing British, erm…post War inadequacies.

He’s also not such much actually competent as that movie-competence where you don’t actually do anything right but being “cool” means you eke out the win. In contrast to the grubby effortful praxis of real spies, and in particularly the really good spies (see: Ben MacIntyre’s histories or the painfully tense and precise spy fiction of John LeCarre), Bond has an unlimited expense account, is constantly flashy and leaves behind a giant debris field, and his (rape-y) sexual activity doesn’t get him immediately yanked from the field because he’s basically made of kompromat.

The character is entertaining, but has never made sense, never depicted espionage in any meaningful way (in spite of Fleming’s own experiences) since the original pieces of short fiction, and even the “realistic” Bond reboot is fucking ridiculous.

This is such a stupid hill to take a stand on, but the outrage hustlers will do it because it’s about nobody else getting to have a fantasy. They’ll dress it up as about “realism” or propose that an altered version is somehow more silly (to which I retort—any Roger Moore Bond film. I mean, I was weaned on them but gods are they ridiculous).

eta: shit, I didn’t even address how historically, there’s enough women that become incredible espionage agents that any claims about “realism” are just fucking laughable…even if you don’t take the next step and observe that extant Bond films are full of female spies that Bond seduces…. But basically we’re dealing with paste-eating narcissists who feel like they’re losing control of the world when video game tits don’t meet their expectations, and I should probably just drink more rather than think about any of this.

re: #97 HappyWarrior

It’s rare. But Ben is being an idiot again. She’s not playing Bond. She’s playing 007. M was originally played by a man and now Dame Judi Dench’s M is as iconic as Bernard Lee’s was. I seriously feel bad for Ben’s little girl that he views women this way.

Not anymore. Her character died a couple films ago.

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Citizen K  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:33:07am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:42:28am

re: #2 gocart mozart

I’m blocked by Harry Turdledove and I have no idea why. This sucks. I conversed with him many times, he has liked some of my tweets, I don’t remember saying anything at all offensive.

You were probably just argumentative with him; he has said he’s quick to block people.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:47:03am

re: #84 The Ghost of Quesos Past

There’s just so many layers of stupid to getting mad about a lady 007.

Bond is a multi-layered wish fulfillment fantasy. He’s a Cold War competence fantasy (as opposed to the deeply mixed results produced by MI6) and an imperialist fantasy (tramping around the world in a fucking tux being differed to) addressing British, erm…post War inadequacies.

He’s also not such much actually competent as that movie-competence where you don’t actually do anything right but being “cool” means you eke out the win. In contrast to the grubby effortful praxis of real spies, and in particularly the really good spies (see: Ben MacIntyre’s histories or the painfully tense and precise spy fiction of John LeCarre), Bond has an unlimited expense account, is constantly flashy and leaves behind a giant debris field, and his (rape-y) sexual activity doesn’t get him immediately yanked from the field because he’s basically made of kompromat.

The character is entertaining, but has never made sense, never depicted espionage in any meaningful way (in spite of Fleming’s own experiences) since the original pieces of short fiction, and even the “realistic” Bond reboot is fucking ridiculous.

This is such a stupid hill to take a stand on, but the outrage hustlers will do it because it’s about nobody else getting to have a fantasy. They’ll dress it up as about “realism” or propose that an altered version is somehow more silly (to which I retort—any Roger Moore Bond film. I mean, I was weaned on them but gods are they ridiculous).

eta: shit, I didn’t even address how historically, there’s enough women that become incredible espionage agents that any claims about “realism” are just fucking laughable…even if you don’t take the next step and observe that extant Bond films are full of female spies that Bond seduces…. But basically we’re dealing with paste-eating narcissists who feel like they’re losing control of the world when video game tits don’t meet their expectations, and I should probably just drink more rather than think about any of this.

Brings back memories of this classic goof on 007—James Tont vs. Goldsinger

james tont Eurospy english language.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:55:23am

re: #7 jaunte

I wasn’t too fond of McCain either. Not sure why he’s so adored by those on the left.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:59:52am

re: #16 HappyWarrior

This is the most disgusted I’ve ever been with an American President in my 32 years. There’s so much ugliness about this son of a bitch. Not a single redeemable quality. Someone whose values are not from the Enlightenment or the basic fundamental values we learn at a young age but someone whose philosophy is rooted in autocracy, exclusion, & bigotry for anyone who isn’t like him.

And I thought Dubya and Palin were the worst the GOP could do in stupidity and evil. They will have to nominate the Zombie Apocalypse to take another step down from Trump.

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Citizen K  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:01:45am

re: #129 NO SMOCKING GUN!

And I thought Dubya and Palin were the worst the GOP could do in stupidity and evil. They will have to nominate the Zombie Apocalypse to take another step down from Trump.

Never assume they can’t go lower. Like said, we assumed it was bad with Dubya, then they pulled out Palin. We thought Palin was the worst they could do, then Trump won and brought an extra dose of overt racism and open fascism.

The rate we’re going, they’re going to nominate an overt Neo-Nazi and he’ll still win almost half the popular vote.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:02:53am

re: #20 Ace-o-aces

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:06:47am

re: #46 jaunte

Trump is a reflection of the GOP base. Trump exposes the racist/misogynstic base that the GOP has always cultivated. This isn’t some sudden eruption of racism and misogyny because Trump is in office.

That racism and misogynistic worldview has been cultivated by Fox and the GOP leaders for decades. Trump was just louder and clearer in his racist and misogynistic view than any other GOPer in 2016. Coupled with an amoral flexibility that sees consorting with foreign powers to win elections and using illegal means to gain power (and hold it), and we’ve got a GOP that is continuing to enable the white supremacist agenda that has long lurked in the GOP.

Telling American citizens to go back where they came from? Yeah, he’s targeted women who are POC. That’s no accident.

That GOPers are mirroring Trump’s words, and trying to magic balance fairy the fuck out of things is how Trump remains in control. He knows how to pander to his base better than any of the GOPers, and they’re afraid to challenge his racist white supremacist views. They’re cowards.

And they’re goddamned racists.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:11:26am

re: #50 jaunte

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Back in junior high I wondered why they were having us practice square dancing when none of the adults did it.

What a failure of a plot; all he accomplished was to make middle school kids do a weird dance in gym they would subsequently never do again for the rest of their lives.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:14:34am
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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:15:18am

re: #134 lawhawk

There are a bunch of real-life women who could be portrayed as spies as to completely ignore the Bond franchise altogether.

If James Bond were about spying, I agree. All of those women should get their own movies, though.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:16:01am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:16:45am

re: #130 Citizen K

Never assume they can’t go lower. Like said, we assumed it was bad with Dubya, then they pulled out Palin. We thought Palin was the worst they could do, then Trump won and brought an extra dose of overt racism and open fascism.

The rate we’re going, they’re going to nominate an overt Neo-Nazi and he’ll still win almost half the popular vote.

Just remember that Gym Jordan & Matt Gaetz are waiting in the wings to go oven lower

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:16:46am

re: #136 Belafon

If James Bond were about spying, I agree. All of those women should get their own movies, though.

I still wanna see a Josephine Baker bio-pic.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:16:48am

Good morning. Managed to really piss off a Republican. I simply told him Republicans now threaten the Constitution with the 2nd A rather than defend it. Old v New GOP. Asked why the ACLU has done more to defend the 2ndA than they have the 1st A. And the 14th? An existential threat to the Trump agenda.

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:17:05am

re: #136 Belafon

If James Bond were about spying, I agree. All of those women should get their own movies, though.

If you want to talk about bedding characters, exotic locales, and spectacular action, those women could fit the bill too.

Heck, I would still argue that among the best characters in a Bond flick was Michelle Yeoh’s agent in Tomorrow Never Dies - who was competent, kick ass, mature, and hawt.

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:17:51am

The GOP in a nutshell. Not a one is stepping up and admitting that their party is a bunch of racists and bigots who are led by the nose by a white supremacist in the WH.

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:18:13am
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retired cynic  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:18:54am

re: #95 Dr Lizardo

I had no idea James was a name for girls and women as well. It must’ve become an almost entirely masculine name before I was born in 1969 as I’ve never a woman named James.

The other way ‘round, too: my husband’s farming partner was Joyce, as a first name.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:19:03am

re: #77 Cheechako

Alaska’s Governor, Mike Dunleavy (R), is now a contender for the worst political photograph of the year:

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Second to every photo of Donald Trump

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Citizen K  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:23:06am

re: #138 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just remember that Gym Jordan & Matt Gaetz are waiting in the wings to go oven lower

Jordan still being a Congressperson in good standing is one of the biggest indictments of our political process to date, perhaps only behind Steve King still being considered a Congressperson in good standing.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:23:30am
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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:24:36am

re: #77 Cheechako

I’m going to argue that there’s nothing wrong with that. There’s a figure that is right on the left margin of the photo that also appears to have a floatation device - my guess is that their access to the firefighting location was by water - and it was. They were fighting the Swan Lake Fire.

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Kilroy was here  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:25:18am

Apollo 11 Moon Launch 50th Anniversary | CBS News Special Coverage, live stream
Apollo 11 launch with a slight 50 year delay.

Walter at work

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:26:17am

re: #141 lawhawk

If you want to talk about bedding characters, exotic locales, and spectacular action, those women could fit the bill too.

Heck, I would still argue that among the best characters in a Bond flick was Michelle Yeoh’s agent in Tomorrow Never Dies - who was competent, kick ass, mature, and hawt.

Also, Gloria Hendry in Live and Let Die.

I’ll betcha this scene made some heads explode back in the day….and I’ll bet it still would, too:

Gloria Hendry and Roger Moore in “Live and Let Die”
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jaunte  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:28:15am
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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:28:28am

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

And the new Moneypenny - Naomie Harris too.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:29:09am

re: #142 lawhawk

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The GOP in a nutshell. Not a one is stepping up and admitting that their party is a bunch of racists and bigots who are led by the nose by a white supremacist in the WH.

And you know what? If, let’s say, three GOP Senators announced they were crossing the aisle and switching to the Democrats, the GOP would put the kibosh on this bullshit so fast your head would spin.

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Citizen K  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:34:13am

Fuck it all.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:36:51am

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

Also, Gloria Hendry in Live and Let Die.

I’ll betcha this scene made some heads explode back in the day….and I’ll bet it still would, too:

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The best Bond movie song as well.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:44:01am

re: #155 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The best Bond movie song as well.

I agree - the Bond franchise has never topped it.

Live And Let Die Theme Song - James Bond

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:46:21am

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:49:36am

re: #156 Dr Lizardo

I was perhaps a bit hasty - this one is easily the most iconic Bond opener:

Goldfinger Theme Song - James Bond

But Live and Let Die ties with it.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:51:16am

Everyone still in the GOP is a racist or an enabler. You can’t reform it from the
Inside. If every anti-racist united we could burn the GOP to the ground, and then conservatives could rebuild a party with some human decency.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:51:30am

re: #135 Belafon

I left out: Look at the neighbor that isn’t in the top four.

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:52:32am

re: #158 Dr Lizardo

I was perhaps a bit hasty - this one is easily the most iconic Bond opener:

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But Live and Let Die ties with it.

Yup this

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:54:44am
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Teukka  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:57:08am

This is an obituary that circulates at times in many organizations in Sweden…

In Memoriam: Someone else

It is with a heavy heart that we have to announce that our highly valued Someone Else has died.
Someone Elses death creates a vacancy that will be difficult to fill.
Someone Else has worked in the world since it was formed.
Someone Else did far more than a normal workload.
As soon as any job that was the least bit unpleasant, difficult, or demanding even the slightest moral courage, needed to be carried out, the reaction was “Someone Else will do it”.
It was also generally known that Someone Else during life made a tremendous effort.
Whenever there was a need for volunteers, everyone assumed that Someone Else would volunteer.
Someone Else was a wonderful creature who at times seemed superhuman.
A single person can only make a limited work effort.
To tell the truth, ordinary people expected far too much from Someone Else.
Someone Else always led by a good example.
Now Someone Else is gone and we wonder what we are going to do now.
Who’s going to do everything that Someone Else did before?
We need to realize that we cannot depend on Someone Else doing what we need to do.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:00:39am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:01:30am

And while the media is debating whether Trump is a racist or not, the Administration is quietly enabling the poisoning of our air and water.

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Ming5000  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:02:05am

re: #162 Ace-o-aces

huh. gab has a verified twitter account.

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Citizen K  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:04:34am

re: #166 Ming5000

huh. gab has a verified twitter account.

Quelle ironie, no?

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:04:54am

re: #166 Ming5000

huh. gab has a verified twitter account.

Of course, even they know nobody uses Gab.

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Citizen K  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:05:42am

re: #168 Ace-o-aces

Of course, even they know nobody uses Gab.

Why would they need to? The Gab types have essentially taken over Twitter anyway.

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William Lewis  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:06:31am

The history of a forgotten lyricist…

Yip Harburg: Forgotten Lyricist of ‘Over the Rainbow’

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Citizen K  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:06:59am

re: #154 Citizen K

I must repeat: Fuck it all.

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:09:43am

re: #30 Belafon

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A million times this!

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Teukka  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:12:02am

re: #163 Teukka

Just a thought, but would it be doable to begin a protest with a moment of silence, and the obit for Someone Else read aloud?

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:12:11am

re: #64 Anymouse 🌹

The same old argument with conservatives.

“Teh Geyh is a lifestyle choice.”

Okay, you’re straight, is that a lifestyle choice?

No, that’s normal ////

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:15:36am

re: #173 Teukka

Just a thought, but would it be doable to begin a protest with a moment of silence, and the obit for Someone Else read aloud?

Let someone else start it.

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plansbandc  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:17:07am

re: #158 Dr Lizardo

The hooks in this song kill me. It’s just so good.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:17:14am

Taking this as an endorsement:

Monday’s Fox News interview concluded with Thiel’s comments about the presidential race: “Elizabeth Warren is the dangerous one.”

bloomberg.com

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:17:15am
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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:24:08am

re: #177 Decatur Deb

Taking this as an endorsement:

bloomberg.com

I wouldn’t trust Thiel to watch my pet rock. I definitely wouldn’t trust Thiel on Fox.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:27:04am

I found, at myheritage.com my grandfather’s 1917 WW1 Draft Registration certificate. He was not a U.S. citizen! He never became a citizen since 1 year later he was dead from the Spanish Flu pandemic.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:29:40am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

Day 3 of the WPC national weather chart shows post-tropical depression Barry approaching Philadelphia.

PhillyPretzel isn’t out of the rains yet.

Clear outside currently just west of The Pretzel. But already fairly warm out and going to get hotter today. Humidity already high as well.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:33:08am

Ha, from Eugene Robinson:

“Trump is a racist” does not exactly qualify as breaking news. But the silence from prominent Republicans is staggering — and telling. It amounts to collaboration — perhaps “collusion” is a better word — with the president’s assault on diversity and pluralism. In the coming campaign, you will hear Republican candidates at every level claim to be colorblind and embrace all Americans regardless of race or ethnicity. Do not believe them. Their failure to speak out now tells us everything we need to know about their true feelings.

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Citizen K  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:34:29am

I hate this entire goddamn party so goddamn much….

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:41:20am

re: #183 Citizen K

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I hate this entire goddamn party so goddamn much….

You stopped being the party of Lincoln the minute you nominated Goldwater after LBJ signed the CRA 1964. It’s been downhill ever since.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:43:48am

re: #180 The Pie Overlord!

I found, at myheritage.com my grandfather’s 1917 WW1 Draft Registration certificate. He was not a U.S. citizen! He never became a citizen since 1 year later he was dead from the Spanish Flu pandemic.

Awesome VB. I have my parents’ grandfathers. Mom’s grandfather’s were still Austrian Hungarian empire subjects at that time.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:44:52am

re: #183 Citizen K

I hate this entire goddamn party so goddamn much….

“We long for the day when man shall not be judged by the color of his skin but on the strength of his character and we will not be judged for our comments about color or nationality or ethnicity.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:50:56am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

Awesome VB. I have my parents’ grandfathers. Mom’s grandfather’s were still Austrian Hungarian empire subjects at that time.

I also found the WW1 draft registration for my other grandfather, my mother’s father. He was a “natural born” citizen.

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:52:59am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:54:43am

re: #187 The Pie Overlord!

I also found the WW1 draft registration for my other grandfather, my mother’s father. He was a “natural born” citizen.

Dad’s Paternal grandad was born in Germany but his maternal was in Pennsylvania

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:59:26am

Donnie’s especially unhinged…is this related to his Buddy Epstein or his Buddy Roger Stone who both are appearing in court this week?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:01:47am

re: #190 Dr. Matt

Donnie’s especially unhinged…is this related to his Buddy Epstein or his Buddy Roger Stone who both are appearing in court this week?

He’s freaking out about something - you’re right that he’s been especially unhinged over the last few days, so there has to be something that’s got him seriously rattled.

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:02:18am

re: #158 Dr Lizardo

Live and Let Die, Goldfinger, and Skyfall are definitely among the top 3.

I’d also add You Know My Name (Chris Cornell’s contribution for Casino Royale).

Casino Royale - Chris Cornell - You Know My Name

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:03:14am

re: #183 Citizen K

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:03:19am

re: #190 Dr. Matt

Donnie’s especially unhinged…is this related to his Buddy Epstein or his Buddy Roger Stone who both are appearing in court this week?

He couldn’t keep AOC, Tlaib, and Omar off the air with his usual tricks, and some in his own party are denouncing him, even if they are saying “both sides.”

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:03:26am

re: #191 Dr Lizardo

He’s freaking out about something - you’re right that he’s been especially unhinged over the last few days, so there has to be something that’s got him seriously rattled.

He doesn’t have a poker face. His “tell” is screaming like a raging lunatic.

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Citizen K  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:04:03am

re: #190 Dr. Matt

Donnie’s especially unhinged…is this related to his Buddy Epstein or his Buddy Roger Stone who both are appearing in court this week?

re: #191 Dr Lizardo

He’s freaking out about something - you’re right that he’s been especially unhinged over the last few days, so there has to be something that’s got him seriously rattled.

He might be rattled about something, but lets not pretend either that this is somehow making him do things he didn’t believe in. He’s just letting his inner bile show that much more. This is what he is, this is what he actually believes in.

That the GOP is all on board, and much of the media is still equivocating it shows how debased our entire process still is.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:05:25am
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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:06:23am
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Citizen K  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:08:23am

Wow. I….I want to tear my hair out right now.

We literally are a goddamn tinpot country right now and Barr is ensuring that literally no Justice is ever done.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:10:54am

re: #198 lawhawk

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Yeah they were textbook racism and Graham said that before he submitted to Trump like a coward.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:12:18am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:14:38am

re: #199 Citizen K

Wow. I….I want to tear my hair out right now.

[Embedded content]

We literally are a goddamn tinpot country right now and Barr is ensuring that literally no Justice is ever done.

Barr is giving a signal to everyone that cops can do whatever they please.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:14:51am

re: #199 Citizen K

Can the next (hopefully Democratically-appointed) Attorney General pick up the case, say, in 2021?

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sagehen  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:15:04am

re: #190 Dr. Matt

Donnie’s especially unhinged…is this related to his Buddy Epstein or his Buddy Roger Stone who both are appearing in court this week?

Could also be the new report detailing Wikileaks’ work as Russian agent…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:16:20am

re: #204 sagehen

Could also be the new report detailing Wikileaks’ work as Russian agent…

Yeah, I read earlier that Ecuador figured Assange as a Russian asset.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:18:54am

Trump is screaming like the maniac he is because he knows there are DVDs in Jeffrey Epstein’s safe with his fat ass in them.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:21:00am

“I don’t have a racist bone in my body!”

Yes, I’ll take “Things only racists say” for $400, Alex.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:21:18am

And probably all of the above is true about why Trump is screaming.

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:21:45am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:21:47am
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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:23:10am

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

“I don’t have a racist bone in my body!”

Yes, I’ll take “Things only racists say” for $400, Alex.

The bones are all going “Don’t blame us.”

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:23:27am

re: #205 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, I read earlier that Ecuador figured Assange as a Russian asset.

I can’t believe the Ecuador Embassy allowed Assange so much latitude.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:23:54am

re: #210 The Pie Overlord!

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Every cell in Twittller’s body is racist.

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Teukka  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:24:01am

So this scrolled by under my nose…

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Old Liberal  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:24:15am

re: #140 Rightwingconspirator

Good morning. Managed to really piss off a Republican. I simply told him Republicans now threaten the Constitution with the 2nd A rather than defend it. Old v New GOP. Asked why the ACLU has done more to defend the 2ndA than they have the 1st A. And the 14th? An existential threat to the Trump agenda.

Good work. I don’t bother any more but admire those that do when necessary.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:24:35am

re: #206 The Pie Overlord!

Trump is screaming like the maniac he is because he knows there are DVDs in Jeffrey Epstein’s safe with his fat ass in them.

No one here would be surprised if there’s a DVD of Trump having a menage a trois with two 13-year-old blonde girls.

Sadly, I think his supporters would find some way to dismiss it, either as “fake news” or “it’s a deepfake!” or “they looked older than 13!”

There’s simply no bottom to the moral depravity of Trump’s supporters. And I presume that brow-furrowing would intensify among the GOP leadership - and that’s about it.

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:24:52am

re: #211 Belafon

The bones are all going “Don’t blame us.”

The bone spurs are all like - we’re MIA.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:26:21am

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

“I don’t have a racist bone in my body!”

Yes, I’ll take “Things only racists say” for $400, Alex.

“I can’t be racist, I have an Asian in my Cabinet!”

Correct for $600.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:26:21am

re: #212 Dr. Matt

I can’t believe the Ecuador Embassy allowed Assange so much latitude.

From what I remember, that was largely because of the previous President there.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:26:41am

re: #216 Dr Lizardo

No one here would be surprised if there’s a DVD of Trump having a menage a trois with two 13-year-old blonde girls.

And calling them both “Ivanka”.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:28:11am

JFC not this shit again

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Old Liberal  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:28:24am

re: #159 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Everyone still in the GOP is a racist or an enabler. You can’t reform it from the
Inside. If every anti-racist united we could burn the GOP to the ground, and then conservatives could rebuild a party with some human decency.

[Embedded content]

Burn it to the ground is the only remedy. We can no longer lead by example because the reactionaries see that as weakness, not something to emulate.

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:28:38am

re: #214 Teukka

Tweeted.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:28:49am

re: #220 Eclectic Cyborg

And calling them both “Ivanka”.

He’s just telling them they’ll never measure up to his daughter.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:29:39am

re: #221 The Pie Overlord!

JFC not this shit again

Too, late, Kim. We now know this was a Russian operation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:32:15am

re: #73 Dread Pirate

“The silence of Republican leaders appeared to suggest either that they agreed with the views expressed by their standard-bearer or that he has so effectively consolidated his control over their party that they have grown disinclined to voice dissent.”

They know that this will blow over to be replaced by the next scandal, so found it best to try to ignore it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:33:28am

re: #225 Belafon

Too, late, Kim. We now know this was a Russian operation.

We also know that Kim is a Russian agent.

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Old Liberal  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:35:20am

re: #193 lawhawk

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Ok McCarthy. You don’t comment on EVERY offensive drumpf statement. Do you comment on ANY? Is there a single example in the last two years where you commented? Is what you really mean that you will NEVER comment on any offensive statement?

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BigPapa  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:35:35am

Strange how Epstein’s safe being cracked and Pence turning his plane around seems to have predicated this latest uptick in Racist Grandpa rantings. Hard to parse the signal from the noise when it comes to Trump as he’s cunning and def not a deep thinker.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:35:39am

re: #120 Dr Lizardo

The political scene here in ČR is a fucking mess. Slovakia is an island of sanity in comparison.

I thought Slovakia (where my paternal grandfather came from, btw) was run by RW nationalists.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:36:07am

Roger Stone is in court today. His lawyers attempting to get evidence thrown out, and the Court a little annoyed that he seems to be violating the gag order.
Darren Samuelsohn of Politico there. He’s pretty much live tweeting, but not threading all that much

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Old Liberal  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:37:49am

re: #212 Dr. Matt

I can’t believe the Ecuador Embassy allowed Assange so much latitude.

Under Correa it was no surprise

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:40:07am

re: #230 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I thought Slovakia (where my paternal grandfather came from, btw) was run by RW nationalists.

It was, but things are turning around quite rapidly, starting recently with the election of Čaputová, the new Slovak President.

Also, polls are showing that Progressive Slovakia, a socially liberal, strongly pro-EU party, have now overtaken the RW nationalists in voter preference - the next Parliamentary election is next year in Slovakia.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:42:02am

re: #233 Dr Lizardo

It was, but things are turning around quite rapidly, starting recently with the election of Čaputová, the new Slovak President.

Also, polls are showing that Progressive Slovakia, a socially liberal, strongly pro-EU party, have now overtaken the RW nationalists in voter preference - the next Parliamentary election is next year in Slovakia.

Oh yeah, forgot about Zuzana Čaputová’s recent election.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:44:55am

re: #184 HappyWarrior

You stopped being the party of Lincoln the minute you nominated Goldwater after LBJ signed the CRA 1964. It’s been downhill ever since.

The Man Who Launched the GOP’s Civil War (Politico, 2015)

The story of Roger Millikan, textile magnate, who in the Fifties planted the first ideas about trade protectionism and anti-unionism in the South.

By weaponising the racism inherent in post-Brown Dixie, he was the person who first promoted Goldwater to the Republican Party in a way to take the Solid South.

All the way back to the Fifties, South Carolina had passed a so-called right to work law, and so he moved his textile factory to Darlington to take advantage of cheap labour.

He was an early financier of the National Review and the Heritage Foundation.

What got him in the end was his cheap labour policies were then used by the same corporations which supported him to start exporting their labour to foreign markets and flood the USA and ignoring him.

By the time he realised what he had done, his textile business was put out of business. While today the company still collects billions in patents, it no longer produces anything.

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:46:45am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:49:17am

re: #236 Skip Intro

From the replies:

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:49:33am

re: #221 The Pie Overlord!

JFC not this shit again

Dotcom and other wingnuts are getting it from this, a bullshyte lawsuit against the FBI to release all information about the RCH [Russia Collusion Hoax, actually referenced that way in the lawsuit].

Lawsuit outs Ellen Ratner as source for Seth Rich information (Goes to page two of the article at that wingnut’s site).

45. Mr. Butowsky stumbled into the RCH crosshairs after Ellen Rattner [sic], a news analyst for Fox News and the White House correspondent for Talk Media News, contacted him in the Fall of 2016 about a meeting she had with Mr. Assange. Ms. Rattner’s brother, the late Michael Rattner, was an attorney who had represented Mr. Assange. According to Ms. Rattner, she made a stop in London during a return flight from Berlin, and she met with Mr. Assange for approximately six hours in the Ecuadorean embassy. Ms. Rattner said Mr. Assange told her that Seth Rich and his brother, Aaron, were responsible for releasing the DNC emails to Wikileaks. Ms. Rattner said Mr. Assange wanted the information relayed to Seth’s parents, as it might explain the motive for Seth’s murder.

46. Upon her return to the United States, Ms. Rattner asked Mr. Butowsky to contact the Rich family and relay the information from Mr. Assange, apparently because Ms. Rattner did not want her involvement to be made public. In the two months that followed, Mr. Butowsky did not attempt to contact the Rich family, but he grew increasingly frustrated as the DNC and #Resistance “journalists” blamed the Russian government for the email leak. On December 16, 2016, Mr. Butowsky sent a text message to Ms. Ratner:

(more)

Wingnuts are claiming “there’s a lawsuit! That proves the conspiracy!”

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:49:34am

Trump Racist Euphemism Headline Generator - for the media outlets that refuse to call the racist as fuck Trump a fucking racist.

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:51:40am

re: #206 The Pie Overlord!

Trump is screaming like the maniac he is because he knows there are DVDs in Jeffrey Epstein’s safe with his fat ass in them.

please dont make me have to see that

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:52:02am

re: #236 Skip Intro

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Kilroy was here  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:53:59am

re: #239 lawhawk

Trump Racist Euphemism Headline Generator - for the media outlets that refuse to call the racist as fuck Trump a fucking racist.

TRUMP PLANTS SEEDS OF RACE-CURIOUS SNAFU

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:54:17am
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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:56:48am

re: #241 Anymouse 🌹

Sounds legit.

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:56:48am

re: #231 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Roger Stone is in court today. His lawyers attempting to get evidence thrown out, and the Court a little annoyed that he seems to be violating the gag order.
Darren Samuelsohn of Politico there. He’s pretty much live tweeting, but not threading all that much

[Embedded content]

this is how you do it:

Judge Jackson to Stone’s lawyers about the information in the FBI search warrants: “What is the statement that was knowingly or recklessly false? Point to one affidavit.”

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:58:09am

re: #237 Dr Lizardo

From the replies:

It’s all so disturbing. These people think our democracy is a cheap D+ knockoff of a Dan Brown novel.

nope, they dont

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:00:10am

re: #237 Dr Lizardo

From the replies:

Dan Brown as written by Stephanie Meyer.

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:02:37am

re: #247 Belafon

Dan Brown as written by Stephanie Meyer.

And EL James.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:04:19am

re: #247 Belafon

Dan Brown as written by Stephanie Meyer.

and Directed by Alan Smithee.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:05:40am
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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:06:51am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:06:53am

re: #249 Eclectic Cyborg

and Directed by Alan Smithee Uwe Boll.

FTFY.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:08:24am

re: #235 Anymouse 🌹

The Man Who Launched the GOP’s Civil War (Politico, 2015)

The story of Roger Millikan, textile magnate, who in the Fifties planted the first ideas about trade protectionism and anti-unionism in the South.

By weaponising the racism inherent in post-Brown Dixie, he was the person who first promoted Goldwater to the Republican Party in a way to take the Solid South.

All the way back to the Fifties, South Carolina had passed a so-called right to work law, and so he moved his textile factory to Darlington to take advantage of cheap labour.

He was an early financier of the National Review and the Heritage Foundation.

What got him in the end was his cheap labour policies were then used by the same corporations which supported him to start exporting their labour to foreign markets and flood the USA and ignoring him.

By the time he realised what he had done, his textile business was put out of business. While today the company still collects billions in patents, it no longer produces anything.

I actually found an old article where my dad’s father is quoted talking about how unions hadn’t been successful in the South. He worked for the NLRB.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:08:38am

re: #221 The Pie Overlord!

JFC not this shit again

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Thank god he’s verified by Twitter.

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:10:06am

the latest nonsense from kellyanne

Said Conway: “What the president is doing is, we are tired — sick and tired — of many people in this country. Forget these four. They represent a dark underbelly of people in this country of people who are not respecting our troops, are not giving them the resources and the respect that they deserve.”

what this has to do with anything trump said about the congresswomen, i dont know.

maybe it’s this:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:11:46am

re: #243 Anymouse 🌹

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And I’ll add this both Presley and AOC’s family have been here longer than Trump’s. Tlaib is the same generation American as he is. And Omar is the same as his wife. It definitely was a racist comment and KAC knows it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:12:14am

re: #221 The Pie Overlord!

JFC not this shit again

And now Conservative Treehouse and Gateway Pundit are running with the same bogus lawsuit noted above as “proof.”

It will become part of the Conservative Religion by evening. The FOX pundit listed in the lawsuit is really a “Deep cover liberal” trying to “cover up” the nonsense around Seth Rich.

Unfortunately for the Rich family, they don’t have the backing of a group like the Sandy Hook families to sue these asshats into penury for slander and libel.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:12:56am

re: #257 Anymouse 🌹

They do know anyone can write any kind of stupid shit in a lawsuit and file it, right?

Right?

//

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KGxvi  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:13:58am

re: #255 DangerMan

Demanding unquestioning support for the military… your fascist is showing, KellyAnne.

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:14:10am

re: #250 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

To every person in media saying “Democrats’ over-reaction to Trump’s racism could cost them votes” as opposed to “Trump’s obvious racism will cost him votes”: what is wrong with you?

im just gonna go all absolutist here

any person, in the media or not, who thinks there’s an over-reaction possible to trumps racism is likely a racist

- you support a pig, you’re a pig
- you dont full throatedly denounce, condemn, despise, clearly overtly racist comments, then you are supporting a racist
- you support a racist, you’re a racist.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:14:28am

re: #254 Mike Lamb

Thank god he’s verified by Twitter.

Yup. Convicted of intellectual property theft.

More Twitter libertarianism.

I imagine reporting Dotcom for spreading conspiracy theory about the Rich family (which they specifically asked conservatives not to do) will amount to nothing.

There is money to be made though.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:15:29am

re: #258 Eclectic Cyborg

They do know anyone can write any kind of stupid shit in a lawsuit and file it, right?

Right?

//

I see you put the “surely you jest” lines in there. /s

The people spreading the lie know it. Their conservative marks do not.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:16:00am

re: #250 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

To every person in media saying “Democrats’ over-reaction to Trump’s racism could cost them votes” as opposed to “Trump’s obvious racism will cost him votes”: what is wrong with you?

It means you have been successfully “mainstreamed” into the position that “only racists call others out on racism”.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:18:41am

THREAD

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KGxvi  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:20:59am

re: #264 The Pie Overlord!

The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:22:00am

re: #255 DangerMan

the latest nonsense from kellyanne

what this has to do with anything trump said about the congresswomen, i dont know.

maybe it’s this:

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She deserves the “Hiding behind the troops” award.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:27:09am

Malcolm in the Middle…. Of things

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:28:18am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:28:43am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:29:44am

re: #268 The Pie Overlord!

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I wish more descendants of Eastern European Slavs, Irish, & Germans would too. The American Jewish people know this talk too well to fall for Trump’s bs.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:29:59am

THREAD

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:30:31am

I know it’s really small of me to make fun of somebody’s looks, but JCF! Just call me Tiny Tim. She looks reptilian here.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:30:47am

re: #271 The Pie Overlord!

THREAD

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It’s everything

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:31:27am

re: #269 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Kellyanne lies for a living. She’s good at it.

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KGxvi  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:33:57am

re: #272 Skip Intro

She went with “but where are you from from?” which is the “polite” version of “go back to where you come from.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:34:20am

OOPS.

A recently released — and subsequently deleted — document published by a NATO-affiliated body has sparked headlines in Europe with an apparent confirmation of a long-held open secret: U.S. nuclear weapons are being stored in Belgium, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Turkey.

A version of the document, titled “A new era for nuclear deterrence? Modernisation, arms control and allied nuclear forces,” was published in April. Written by a Canadian senator for the Defense and Security Committee of the NATO Parliamentary Assembly, the report assessed the future of the organization’s nuclear deterrence policy.

But what would make news months later is a passing reference that appeared to reveal the location of roughly 150 U.S. nuclear weapons being stored in Europe.

According to a copy of the document published Tuesday by Belgian newspaper De Morgen, a section on the nuclear arsenal read: “These bombs are stored at six US and European bases — Kleine Brogel in Belgium, Büchel in Germany, Aviano and Ghedi-Torre in Italy, Volkel in The Netherlands, and Incirlik in Turkey.”

demorgen.be

washingtonpost.com

JFC.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:37:46am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:38:19am

re: #259 KGxvi

Demanding unquestioning support for the military… your fascist is showing, KellyAnne.

I’m sick of that shit especially from them. They use the military and sad to say many military members abc their families fall for it since the military is after all representative of society as a whole.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:39:19am

re: #251 lawhawk

Here we go, back to the action

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:39:32am

WTFITS

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:40:17am

re: #277 The Pie Overlord!

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She said that to a Jewish reporter but we’re to believe The Squad are the Antisemites. Of course Baby Whiplash will be right on it right after he fixes our real problem, black lady 007!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:41:07am

re: #280 The Pie Overlord!

WTFITS

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He does treat everyone with contempt but he would never say that to a whites person. This is a political cult.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:41:56am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:43:24am

How will the Dotard, or his minions, spin this as a win?

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:43:32am

re: #280 The Pie Overlord!

WTFITS

I’ll see your assinne comment and raise you….

Donnie: “Look at my African American over here!”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:44:25am

re: #283 The Pie Overlord!

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Yeah but he was white so it was cool.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:44:53am

re: #283 The Pie Overlord!

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Should have sent him back to the shithole country he came from.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:46:37am

re: #280 The Pie Overlord!

WTFITS

He sees the people that love “Him.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:47:20am

re: #288 Sir John Barron

He sees the people that love Him.

He only sees that when he looks in a mirror.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:47:51am

re: #284 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

How will the Dotard, or his minions, spin this as a win?

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They won’t, they’ll just go with the usual refrains of Deep State, Activist Judges, blah, blah, blah.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:48:33am

re: #284 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

How will the Dotard, or his minions, spin this as a win?

“We got people thinking about the importance of identifying citizenship. Plus, we’ve hopefully scared a lot of people into thinking that there will be a question.”

They should have also added a requirement that ICE and CPB will not following census people next year.

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:49:44am

appropriated and adjusted comment:

There’s only one person in this country who could publicly and undisputedly tell a (more or less) colleague to go back where they come from and still have their job 24 hours later.

they are both government employees
paid by the people
both are citizens
and contrary to what trump may think, they are, in fact, equals

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sagehen  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:50:21am

re: #259 KGxvi

Demanding unquestioning support for the military… your fascist is showing, KellyAnne.

But not the FBI or the intel agencies, her boss questions them CONSTANTLY.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:50:38am

re: #221 The Pie Overlord!

JFC not this shit again

All the negative true things the media says about DJT are fake news but here let’s spread more Seth Rich hoaxerism.

////

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:51:15am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:51:15am

re: #279 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Here we go, back to the action

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:51:19am

re: #293 sagehen

But not the FBI or the intel agencies, her boss questions them CONSTANTLY.

Yeah, not them, they’re Deep State.

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:51:49am

re: #275 KGxvi

She went with “but where are you from from?” which is the “polite” version of “go back to where you come from.”

“that wasnt the question”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:51:53am

Llre: #294 Sir John Barron

All the negative true things the media says about DJT are fake news but here let’s spread more Seth Rich hoaxerism.

////

The Rich family needs a good lawyer. Lawsuits for Lumpy, Rush, Alex Jones, & Kim.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:52:39am

re: #296 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Trump is going to have a meltdown after he’s done eating KFC.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:53:27am

re: #298 DangerMan

“that wasnt the question”

she was not about to answer the question

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Mike Lamb  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:53:54am

re: #280 The Pie Overlord!

WTFITS

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Amazing coincidence that he only loves straight whites.

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William Lewis  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:54:10am

re: #284 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

How will the Dotard, or his minions, spin this as a win?

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He can’t, that’s why he’s screaming about firing Commerce. Since he “failed”.

“Apology accepted, Captain Needa.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:54:15am

Pretty much a straight-up blanket ban.

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:55:12am

re: #251 lawhawk

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:55:30am

Oh man. Roger is going to suffer through withdrawals

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:55:44am

re: #304 Dr Lizardo

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Pretty much a straight-up blanket ban.

Good. Doesn’t give him a martyr cookie but shuts him the fuck up.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:55:48am

re: #304 Dr Lizardo

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Pretty much a straight-up blanket ban.

So are we starting a pool to see when he violates that order.

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:55:52am

re: #290 Eclectic Cyborg

They won’t, they’ll just go with the usual refrains of Deep State, Activist Judges, blah, blah, blah.

no one’s forcing them to agree to it…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:56:17am

re: #306 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Oh man. Roger is going to suffer through withdrawals

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Hopefully in a few years, we hear Trump is banned from social media during his trials.

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William Lewis  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:56:40am

re: #304 Dr Lizardo

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Pretty much a straight-up blanket ban.

Pity. He should have been tossed in jail till the end of his trial, at which time he could transfer to prison. He will find a way to violate this ban and he’ll still not get held accountable. IOKIYAAR.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:57:03am

“What’s your ethnicity?”

Blue is the new blackshirt.

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:58:08am

re: #306 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Oh man. Roger is going to suffer through withdrawals

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he’ll find a surrogate to post for him?

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:58:54am

re: #279 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The feds aren’t asking for jail? Fuck that - Stone’s prior public statements after the gag order was initiated included attacking the judge and prosecutors.

Actions have consequences, and the prosecutors are still playing to Barr. Fuck that. The judge needed to remind everyone that criminal acts have consequences, but instead gave him a blanket ban.

Whoop de do. That’ll really show him.

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:59:30am

re: #308 Joe Bacon 🌹

So are we starting a pool to see when he violates that order.

By the end of the week.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:59:35am

re: #308 Joe Bacon 🌹

So are we starting a pool to see when he violates that order.

72 hours, max.

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:00:04am

re: #301 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

she was not about to answer the question

i know that, however i think it would have put the entire video clip in a better context:

“why are you asking me this, it’s not what the question was”

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William Lewis  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:00:13am

re: #308 Joe Bacon 🌹

So are we starting a pool to see when he violates that order.

I’ll take “within 8 hours”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:01:11am
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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:05:27am

didja know this?

The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission notes that immigrants are protected by laws from employment discrimination, including harassment based on national origin:

Examples of potentially unlawful conduct include insults, taunting, or ethnic epithets, such as making fun of a person’s foreign accent or comments like, “Go back to where you came from,” whether made by supervisors or by co-workers.

- Discrimination Because of a Person’s or His or Her Ancestor’s Place of Birth
- Discrimination Based on Association with Persons of a Different National Origin Group
- Practices May Have an Adverse Effect on Particular National Origin Groups
- Harassment Based on National Origin
- Discrimination Based on Accent
- Speak-English -Only Rules
- Discrimination Based on Appearance

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:06:53am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:07:34am

re: #320 DangerMan

didja know this?

- Discrimination Because of a Person’s or His or Her Ancestor’s Place of Birth
- Discrimination Based on Association with Persons of a Different National Origin Group
- Practices May Have an Adverse Effect on Particular National Origin Groups
- Harassment Based on National Origin
- Discrimination Based on Accent
- Speak-English -Only Rules
- Discrimination Based on Appearance

The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission notes that immigrants are protected by laws from employment discrimination, including harassment based on national origin:

Examples of potentially unlawful conduct include insults, taunting, or ethnic epithets, such as making fun of a person’s foreign accent or comments like, “Go back to where you came from,” whether made by supervisors or by co-workers.

So they could bring an EOC suit against Trump for workplace harassment?

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Citizen K  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:08:18am

Border Patrol just straight up needs to be razed at this point. The entire system is rotten and no amount of good apples are going to un-rot this barrel.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:10:16am

re: #323 Citizen K

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Border Patrol just straight up needs to be razed at this point. The entire system is rotten and no amount of good apples are going to un-rot this barrel.

Gestspo shit

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:10:27am

Unfu….

Nope - totally fucking believable.

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:10:52am

re: #322 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission notes that immigrants are protected by laws from employment discrimination, including harassment based on national origin:

Examples of potentially unlawful conduct include insults, taunting, or ethnic epithets, such as making fun of a person’s foreign accent or comments like, “Go back to where you came from,” whether made by supervisors or by co-workers.

So they could bring an EOC suit against Trump for workplace harassment?

as i understand it, apparently not
he’s employed by us / the people
so the remedies are impeachment and voting him out

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:12:15am

re: #323 Citizen K

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Border Patrol just straight up needs to be razed at this point. The entire system is rotten and no amount of good apples are going to un-rot this barrel.

Definitely makes them look like The Baddies.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:12:36am

re: #323 Citizen K

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Border Patrol just straight up needs to be razed at this point. The entire system is rotten and no amount of good apples are going to un-rot this barrel.

Yup. It’s the Ferguson PD on a cocktail of steroids and PCP.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:12:43am

re: #326 DangerMan

as i understand it, apparently not
he’s employed by us / the people
so the remedies are impeachment and voting him out

He was making a comment directed at congresswomen, who are co-workers, all employed by us…

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:12:50am

re: #323 Citizen K

OMG. A border patrol agent asked a 3-year-old migrant Honduran girl to choose which parent should be sent to Mexico. She started to cry as her father was taken away.

Border Patrol just straight up needs to be razed at this point. The entire system is rotten and no amount of good apples are going to un-rot this barrel.

no good person takes a job like this
no good person does this kind of thing to other human beings

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:13:37am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:13:56am

re: #304 Dr Lizardo

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Pretty much a straight-up blanket ban.

Can’t wait for him to violate that one and end up in jail. You know he won’t be able to resist.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:14:12am

re: #323 Citizen K

Yep. Border Patrol and ICE need an enema.

Fire each and every last one of them, and prohibit them from being re-employed in any capacity whatsoever. Blacklist them from further Federal employment.

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William Lewis  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:15:12am

re: #323 Citizen K

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Border Patrol just straight up needs to be razed at this point. The entire system is rotten and no amount of good apples are going to un-rot this barrel.

Sophie’s Choice.

Fucking Nazi was probably laughing about it too.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:15:49am

re: #333 Dr Lizardo

Civil servants can only be fired for wrongdoing.

No matter how much you may dislike what and ICE employee may do, if it is not illegal then I doubt that person can be fired.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:16:19am

re: #335 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Civil servants can only be fired for wrongdoing.

No matter how much you may dislike what and ICE employee may do, if it is not illegal then I doubt that person can be fired.

And that’s why the system needs to be fixed.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:16:57am

re: #336 Eclectic Cyborg

And that’s why the system needs to be fixed.

Oh, Trump wishes he could fire civil servants on a whim.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:18:15am

re: #335 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Civil servants can only be fired for wrongdoing.

No matter how much you may dislike what and ICE employee may do, if it is not illegal then I doubt that person can be fired.

No, they can be put on the due-process path to firing for poor performance. This is not good performance.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:18:17am

re: #337 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Oh, Trump wishes he could fire civil servants on a whim.

I didn’t necessarily mean that kind of fixed.

But you’re right.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:19:06am

re: #330 DangerMan

no good person takes a job like this
no good person does this kind of thing to other human beings

I think that’s been a failure of imagination on the left though. Good people should be taking those jobs, just like good people should become policemen. It might have prevented this.

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William Lewis  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:21:07am

re: #335 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Civil servants can only be fired for wrongdoing.

No matter how much you may dislike what and ICE employee may do, if it is not illegal then I doubt that person can be fired.

The agency can be shuttered with all employees let go. ICE needs to be closed.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:21:16am

re: #308 Joe Bacon 🌹

So are we starting a pool to see when he violates that order.

Yesterday

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:22:09am

re: #137 Belafon

Josh Barro (fuck that guy) thinks that these dem women are extreme. Fuck that guy.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:22:37am

re: #341 William Lewis

The agency can be shuttered with all employees let go. ICE needs to be closed.

Reduction-in-force rights do not jump from agency to agency. ICE can be reorganized to oblivion.

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:23:16am

re: #335 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Civil servants can only be fired for wrongdoing.

No matter how much you may dislike what and ICE employee may do, if it is not illegal then I doubt that person can be fired.

One EO will change all that.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:26:04am

re: #345 Skip Intro

One EO will change all that.

Civil service is controlled by a law that is rather extensive.

This is the nature of why our government has not been a tyrannical force, unlike various right-wing conspiracy nuts like to claim.

What needs to change, in regards to how ICE treats people, are our laws on immigration.

It is probably true that some ICE agents are currently breaking laws and regulations. The thing to do is to find them.

But I oppose loyalty tests for civil servants, to anything other than loyalty to the USA.

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:27:47am

re: #340 Belafon

I think that’s been a failure of imagination on the left though. Good people should be taking those jobs, just like good people should become policemen. It might have prevented this.

i agree 100%
i was implying that in these current conditions..
and yes i know what it means - you’re left with bad people…

but taking a job nowadays, knowing the environment you’d be working in and the people you’d be surrounded by…, i just wonder. you need a big overhaul

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:28:15am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:28:16am

Youtube’s saltiest plant scientist goes on a rant:

Glaciers, Racist Grandpas, and Frasera speciosa

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:28:54am

re: #325 lawhawk

Unfu….

Nope - totally fucking believable.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:29:29am

re: #347 DangerMan

i agree 100%
i was implying that in these current conditions..
and yes i know what it means - you’re left with bad people…

but taking a job nowadays, knowing the environment you’d be working in and the people you’d be surrounded by…, i just wonder. you need a big overhaul

Agree.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:30:11am

re: #350 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The photographer in me is screaming: “Those aren’t even good photos!”

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:30:47am

re: #168 Ace-o-aces

Of course, even they know nobody uses Gab.

They aren’t happy at Gab…it’s a circle jerk of assholeness. They are only happy to spew their hatred elsewhere.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:32:57am

re: #354 MsJ

They aren’t happy at Gab…it’s a circle jerk of assholeness. They are only happy to spew their hatred elsewhere.

Do you actually go there??

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:32:59am

Reminds me of Serbian government officials who treat their war criminals as heroes.

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:33:23am

re: #353 Eclectic Cyborg

The photographer in me is screaming: “Those aren’t even good photos!”

They’re awful. The framing sucks. And that’s being kind. It’s as if someone had a smartphone cam and didn’t know how to use it. I’ve seen my young nephews take better photos.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:35:06am

Using #CoverUpGeneral forever.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:37:41am
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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:38:47am

re: #346 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The law is only meaningfull when it’s enforced. See the entire Trump regime for examples.

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Sea Mexican  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:41:10am

Someone posted this summary in English about what’s happening in Puerto Rico.

Facebook Post

To all my American, English-speaking friends,

The riot in Puerto Rico that you’re hearing about is over a Telegram (a chatting app, similar to WhatsApp) conversation that was leaked a few days ago. In it, the governor of PR and other members of his administrative team held conversations of insensitive, misogynous, homophobic and criminal nature, to say the least.

A read through the leaked conversation history reveals how throughout the aftermath of Hurricane Maria and its apocalyptic death toll, aids that were sent to PR -such as water and other provisions- were WITHHELD from people that desperately needed it and left to spoil or become unusable for the sake of political moves that would make the current administration seem benevolent and thus earn them the 2020 re-election.

Yes, there were many politically incorrect, hateful, cruel and abhorrent messages about people such as David Begnaud (a CBS reporter whose coverage of Hurricane Maria and the aftermath brought the world’s eyes to our tragedy), the city of San Juan’s mayor, Ricky Martin, and many others in the messages they exchanged, but it’s not the sole reason the people have reached the boiling point.

I’m very tempted to copy & paste the whole post because it doesn’t waste any words.

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:43:33am

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:43:58am

re: #361 Sea Mexican

Mount a page.

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:46:33am

re: #361 Sea Mexican

Page it.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:47:29am

re: #363 Decatur Deb

Mount a page.

Sounds like advice you’d get from Mark Foley

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Dave In Austin  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:49:51am

Asshole. Needs Spanking

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:50:19am

This is a very useful tool for weeding out trolls, bots and griefers.

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:54:29am

re: #361 Sea Mexican

Someone posted this summary in English about what’s happening in Puerto Rico.

[Embedded content]

I’m very tempted to copy & paste the whole post because it doesn’t waste any words.

re: #363 Decatur Deb

Mount a page.

re: #364 lawhawk

Page it.

Thirded, or maybe 4thd already.

Include any personal insights relevant to anything.

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:01:28am

re: #353 Eclectic Cyborg

The photographer in me is screaming: “Those aren’t even good photos!”

Mrs dm just said

“Im sure they’re great pictures. The best pictures ever taken”

She’s learning…

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Sea Mexican  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:01:32am

re: #363 Decatur Deb

Mount a page.

re: #364 lawhawk

Page it.

It’s been paged.

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:01:45am
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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:06:43am
Last 30 days

Unfollowers 8

New Followers 8

I have achieved some sort of balance.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:08:11am

re: #372 wrenchwench

I have achieved some sort of balance.

You have equilibrated with the twitterverse.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:10:12am

Here is why Trump is calling other people “Anti-Semites”
(In private tags because NSFW, and the Anti-Semitism is the least offensive part)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:11:05am

re: #374 The Pie Overlord!

Here is why Trump is calling other people “Anti-Semites”
(In private tags because NSFW, and the Anti-Semitism is the least offensive part)

[Embedded content]

NRFPFyQ3mREh8j1ZVbr5v97LnV7P2ptWoTtcuwkhrjhdxHzJfvonCA==

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:11:36am

re: #374 The Pie Overlord!

XvI6/kuxvzJikVZLE3ps0w==

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:11:57am

re: #371 lawhawk

This is a good thread on how “but I have sex with them sometimes” is not a valid defense of racist acts. Frederick Douglass was born a slave and his father was white. Do the math.

i get the argument and i know people type fast to get thoughts out then i have lots of time to pick up on things that matter to me me me

- there is no valid defense of racist acts
- so to say this sort of implies there could be if one looks hard or careful enough

people employing this strategy arent really defending racist acts
they’re trying to say ‘im not racist because’ and so these acts arent racist

i have a jewish lawyer
elaine cho
i had a black friend…..

don’t let ‘em do it

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:11:59am

re: #376 Eclectic Cyborg

[Embedded content]

ECDw5y/HZXVl0jWaySJi9urTm92wSvw7NTTv22eW8tQ=

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:14:04am
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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:15:38am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:15:42am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:19:34am

re: #381 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Uhh….I thought it was pretty common knowledge that von Braun was, quite literally, a Nazi rocket scientist.

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Kilroy was here  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:21:01am

re: #382 Dr Lizardo

Uhh….I thought it was pretty common knowledge that von Braun was, quite literally, a Nazi rocket scientist.

These seem timely..

Tom Lehrer - Wernher von Braun - with intro

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:22:24am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:23:47am

re: #383 Kilroy was here

These seem timing..

[Embedded content]

Video

LOL that was brilliant. Gave me a good belly laugh.

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William Lewis  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:24:13am

re: #382 Dr Lizardo

Uhh….I thought it was pretty common knowledge that von Braun was, quite literally, a Nazi rocket scientist.

Rockets were all he gave a fuck about and being a. Nazi made them happen so he was happy to be a Nazi and use their slaves.

If the Russians had gotten him, he would have happily built their ICBMs with gulag slaves.

Instead he was our pet nazi rocket builder and he was probably sad we actually paid the workers quite well.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:24:47am
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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:28:14am

re: #382 Dr Lizardo

Uhh….I thought it was pretty common knowledge that von Braun was, quite literally, a Nazi rocket scientist.

People can’t be two things. Or hold opposing thoughts
Words can’t have more than one definition…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:30:50am

re: #359 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

So is Danny going to be bringing a whole lotta donuts to Area 51?

trejosdonuts.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:31:40am

re: #387 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Says a racist.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:31:53am

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹

Rick Wilson being called out in a thread for enabling the rise of Trump after he wrote this.

[Embedded content]

You can take the man out of the GOP but you can’t take the I-got-mine-fuck-you out of the man.

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sagehen  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:32:51am

re: #382 Dr Lizardo

Uhh….I thought it was pretty common knowledge that von Braun was, quite literally, a Nazi rocket scientist.

What we call “common knowledge”… is not particularly common.

Education isn’t what it used to be; and a distressing number of people will happily pretend not to know things that they used to know.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:35:39am
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:36:50am

re: #356 DodgerFan1988

To be fair, did Eric Holder ever being federal charges against any of the police officers who killed unarmed people of color during the Obama administration? I don’t believe so.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:38:09am

This Area 51 stuff is amusing but I really fear a small gaggle of idiots is going to actually go through it and get themselves in some serious trouble…if not worse.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:39:12am

re: #393 Charles Johnson

Maybe our very own Pie Overlord is right and Trump’s freaking out there’s a nasty little DVD in Epstein’s possession with his name on it.

Well, his name……and the name of a 13-year-old girl. Or maybe a couple of them.

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Kilroy was here  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:39:14am

re: #390 HappyWarrior

Says a racist.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:42:08am

re: #393 Charles Johnson

KAC: “He made himself available to a lot of you yesterday.”

Trump: “Quiet. Quiet! Quiet!!!”

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:44:31am
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William Lewis  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:44:54am

re: #396 Dr Lizardo

Maybe our very own Pie Overlord is right and Trump’s freaking out there’s a nasty little DVD in Epstein’s possession with his name on it.

Well, his name……and the name of a 13-year-old girl. Or maybe a couple of them.

Who look just like Ivanka did at 12 ~ 13?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:48:11am

re: #400 William Lewis

Who look just like Ivanka did at 12 ~ 13?

Wouldn’t surprise me. And I’m sure of one thing - if indeed such a DVD exists, he will stop at nothing to see to it that DVD is found and destroyed.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:50:08am

From ProPublica:
A Border Patrol Agent Reveals What It’s Really Like to Guard Migrant Children

“Somewhere down the line people just accepted what’s going on as normal.”

propublica.org

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sagehen  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:51:08am

re: #394 Patricia Kayden

To be fair, did Eric Holder ever being federal charges against any of the police officers who killed unarmed people of color during the Obama administration? I don’t believe so.

He brought charges against entire police departments, got a bunch of consent decrees.

Which Jeff Sessions voided his first week in office.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:52:49am

re: #401 Dr Lizardo

Wouldn’t surprise me. And I’m sure of one thing - if indeed such a DVD exists, he will stop at nothing to see to it that DVD is found and destroyed.

I bet conservatives would still support him even if it was released. No doubt they’d find some way to make it fit in their distorted worldview.

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Old Liberal  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:53:32am

re: #397 Kilroy was here

[Embedded content]

Heritage. Racist heritage.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:56:57am

re: #382 Dr Lizardo

Uhh….I thought it was pretty common knowledge that von Braun was, quite literally, a Nazi rocket scientist.

It was common knowledge that our space program would not have got off the ground without the aid of a lot of German scientists…

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:59:10am

re: #402 Decatur Deb

From ProPublica:
A Border Patrol Agent Reveals What It’s Really Like to Guard Migrant Children

propublica.org

that’s why i wrote

re: #347 DangerMan

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 16, 2019 • 12:08:40pm

re: #396 Dr Lizardo

Maybe our very own Pie Overlord is right and Trump’s freaking out there’s a nasty little DVD in Epstein’s possession with his name on it.

Well, his name……and the name of a 13-year-old girl. Or maybe a couple of them.

I mentioned upthread there is a sworn deposition.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2019 • 1:49:02pm

re: #355 Dave In Austin

Do you actually go there??

God no. But their whole purpose is to disrupt with their assholeness.


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