The Bob Cesca Podcast: Everything Is Great

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show, powered by Immigration Attorney Natalia Segermeister:

Everything Is Great — NSFW! Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; Vote for Stephanie Miller for the Radio Hall of Fame; Our solution to the dark, disturbing news; Trump threatens to investigate Google for treason; The racist president; Trump tells congresswomen to leave the country; Bill Barr stopped the prosecution of the choke hold cop who killed Eric Garner; Cnn says Barr also may have stopped the SDNY investigation; The NeverTrumper problem; Julian Assange set up a spy base in the Ecuadorian embassy; With music by Arachnophilia and The Bitter Elegance; and more!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:30:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:31:40pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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Only President ever to be condemned by the house for racist remarks. Your favorite President in action!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:32:58pm
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William Lewis  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:33:02pm

The hotel I work at gives away the white bread news USA Today. Imagine my real surprise to see an editorial “Trump’s Racist Rants Too Offensive to Ignore “. Opps “Overlook”. Still…

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Old Liberal  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:33:49pm

The republicans in the house just complained and bitched about everything. They should just leave the country and go back to whatever shithole Democratic Socialist country they came from.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:35:07pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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Sigh. I like you Joe but come on dude.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:35:32pm

re: #4 William Lewis

The hotel I work at gives away the white bread news USA Today. Imagine my real surprise to see an editorial “Trump’s Racist Rants Too Offensive to Ignore “.

USA Today? Wow.

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William Lewis  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:37:08pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

USA Today? Wow.

Yeah and no both sider alternate editorial. They actually seem to be standing up.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:37:16pm

Sure thing, Susan.

*rolls eyes*

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Old Liberal  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:37:28pm

Sean Fuckhead Duffy can go back to Ireland and his wife can go back to Mexico. Their kids? They can choose one or the other. Family separation means nothing to republicans.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:37:32pm

Huh, yeah:

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:37:33pm

Outside my house just now:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:39:04pm

re: #9 Dread Pirate

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Sure thing, Susan.

*rolls eyes*

Yeah Mike Gravel is the answer. I guess Bernie can take solace in that Susan left him for an even more crusty model.

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KGxvi  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:39:24pm

So, was just playing around with the Morning Consult Trump Approval tracker and 270towin. If you divide states based on Trump’s approval rating, putting anything that is +/-5 in the undecided category, the breakdown is 301-82 for the Dem with 164 in the “swing states”. If you award all the states based on the numbers it’s 358-154 with Missouri and Georgia undecided. That’s quite a hole for Trump to start out in.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:39:49pm

re: #8 William Lewis

Yeah and no both sider alternate editorial. They actually seem to be standing up.

Saw that Texas’s largest daily did too. We can only hope.

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Kilroy was here  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:40:09pm

re: #8 William Lewis

Yeah and no both sider alternate editorial. They actually seem to be standing up.

At least Trump has made his true colors abundantly clear. Now it’s up to his fellow Republicans and voters everywhere to demonstrate that racism is disqualifying, that the sentence “he’s a racist, but …” has no place in American politics.

The poll is going well too..

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KGxvi  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:41:04pm

re: #9 Dread Pirate

Look, I too am of the mind that we are in the midst of a generational change. But I was thinking more forward than back… do we really need a 90 year old person on stage?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:41:07pm

re: #14 KGxvi

So, was just playing around with the Morning Consult Trump Approval tracker and 270towin. If you divide states based on Trump’s approval rating, putting anything that is +/-5 in the undecided category, the breakdown is 301-82 for the Dem with 164 in the “swing states”. If you award all the states based on the numbers it’s 358-154 with Missouri and Georgia undecided. That’s quite a hole for Trump to start out in.

The biggest landslide in a generation would be great. Rejected explicitly by the American people would be a great way for him to go

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:41:18pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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So, you’re also against impeachment that has no chance of conviction?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:42:48pm

re: #17 KGxvi

Look, I too am of the mind that we are in the midst of a generational change. But I was thinking more forward than back… do we really need a 90 year old person on stage?

The most bizarre phenomenon to me has seeing good chunks of my generation embrace weird old men like Trump, Bernie, & Ron Paul as revolutionary when each in their own way are very backwards thinking.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:43:14pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

He’s so unserious.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:43:32pm

That is such an amazing and great photo

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KGxvi  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:44:05pm

re: #18 HappyWarrior

The biggest landslide in a generation would be great. Rejected explicitly by the American people would be a great way for him to go

I don’t think the Dem nominee will approach Reagan’s ‘84 totals (58.8-40.6, 525-23), but Reagan’s ‘80 totals could be in play (50.7-41, 489-49)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:44:33pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

Only President ever to be condemned by the house for racist remarks. Your favorite President in action!

FIRST TIME IN HISTORY!!!11!!!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:45:46pm

re: #23 KGxvi

I don’t think the Dem nominee will approach Reagan’s ‘84 totals (58.8-40.6, 525-23), but Reagan’s ‘80 totals could be in play (50.7-41, 489-49)

Yeah ‘84 isn’t going to happen but ‘80 or Bush ‘88 426-111 is feasible too.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:46:15pm

re: #9 Dread Pirate

She was a huge Sanders supporter in 2016 so I’m surprised she’s not backing him again. Waiting for her to tell us how the eventual Democratic candidate is worse than Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:46:36pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

FIRST TIME IN HISTORY!!!11!!!

I ask myself everyday how I’m going to explain Trump to my future descendants.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:48:17pm

re: #21 Patricia Kayden

He’s so unserious.

He really is. He’s a decent guy but I don’t want my Uncle to take on Trump, fun and self depreciating, I want someone like my mother. Hard working, tough, and no nonsense.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:49:57pm

re: #19 Belafon

I think the full impeachment process would be a whole lot more consequential than this one-day resolution to disapprove of Trump’s racism, whether or not he’s convicted in the Senate. And the Nixon administration also seemed untouchable until constant pressure forced him to realize he couldn’t continue.

In any case, if it’s important to get on the record condemning Trump’s racism, it’s even more important to try to stop him from doing any more damage, because every day that passes things are getting worse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:52:03pm

re: #11 Belafon

Huh, yeah:

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he needed to ward off hijackers and terrorists when traveling by his private jets?

well, then….

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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:54:24pm

I also believe that Trump is getting so unstable, a real impeachment process in the House might very well enrage him enough to force his hand and make him try to do something that would make it even more obvious he has to go. When he’s under serious pressure, he can’t help blurting out self-incriminating stuff.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:54:40pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

I think the full impeachment process would be a whole lot more consequential than this one-day resolution to disapprove of Trump’s racism, whether or not he’s convicted in the Senate. And the Nixon administration also seemed untouchable until constant pressure forced him to realize he couldn’t continue.

In any case, if it’s important to get on the record condemning Trump’s racism, it’s even more important to try to stop him from doing any more damage, because every day that passes things are getting worse.

I agree. I’ve been more of a “let’s hold off until the investigations are done” person. But it is clear that Barr’s fat finger is on the scale, so that’s no longer an avenue. Time for impeachment hearings.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:55:42pm

re: #32 Barefoot Grin

I agree. I’ve been more of a “let’s hold off until the investigations are done” person. But it is clear that Barr’s fat finger is on the scale, so that’s no longer an avenue. Time for impeachment hearings.

Barr is no Elliott Richardson that’s for sure.

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mmmirele  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:56:42pm

A video about megachurches in the Los Angeles area hiding their anti-LGBTQ sentiments from potential new members. “Come as you are, bring your money but don’t expect to be included.” But, more hopefully, there are people in the community doing religion outside these megachurches.

YouTube

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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:58:09pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 4:58:28pm

Most evil Super Mario Bros. level ever.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:03:46pm

re: #11 Belafon

Huh, yeah:

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I would like to think I wouldn’t make such a BS argument in court even for the massive amount of money they are undoubtably billing Epstein.

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steve_davis  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:07:58pm

re: #5 Old Liberal

The republicans in the house just complained and bitched about everything. They should just leave the country and go back to whatever shithole Democratic Socialist country they came from.

that would be the german democratic republic.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:10:12pm

re: #34 mmmirele

A video about megachurches in the Los Angeles area hiding their anti-LGBTQ sentiments from potential new members. “Come as you are, bring your money but don’t expect to be included.” But, more hopefully, there are people in the community doing religion outside these megachurches.

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Fascinating. I definitely lost a lot of respect for Pratt.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:10:41pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

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Yep. He’s the poster child.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:11:16pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

I actually think that’s a valid response. Trump is all I’M THE SMARTEST, NOT ITTEST, BESTEST AT EVERYTHING… Typical loud mouth. Is actually enjoy watching Biden slap that smirk off of Trump’s face.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:12:45pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:13:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:14:54pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

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Yes sigh. To white America, calling someone s racist is worse than the actual act.

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:21:36pm

The only safe way to watch.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:29:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:29:57pm

re: #42 MsJ

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The country isn’t burning down fast enough for Susan

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Targetpractice  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:30:13pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

I think the full impeachment process would be a whole lot more consequential than this one-day resolution to disapprove of Trump’s racism, whether or not he’s convicted in the Senate. And the Nixon administration also seemed untouchable until constant pressure forced him to realize he couldn’t continue.

In any case, if it’s important to get on the record condemning Trump’s racism, it’s even more important to try to stop him from doing any more damage, because every day that passes things are getting worse.

To me, the two arguments against impeachment appear critically flawed. The first argument tends to be summed up as “Impeaching him without convicting him will help his reelection chances just like they helped Clinton!” The second likewise could be summed up as “There’s no negative consequences to substituting endless investigations for impeachment.”

The first simply has no evidence to support it. While Clinton’s job approval numbers did rise, they ended up where they began when the whole process started: 61%. Meanwhile, his personal approval numbers tanked and have never really recovered, dragged down largely by his behavior in fighting not the perjury charge but the damage done to his public image. So while Republicans failed to end his presidency prematurely, they ultimately did so much damage that his legacy is one with an asterisk next to it.

As for the second, if the idea that impeachment without conviction will help because Donny will be able to say he was “acquitted/vindicated/exonerated/etc,” then what does it say when the Dems spend 2 years running seemingly endless investigations into every part of his life but turning up empty? If Mueller’s Report is brought up, the obvious question will be asked: “If it was so damning, why didn’t you do anything about it?” Meanwhile, the growing animosity over the leadership’s refusal to impeach is only going to grow, leaving more and more with the impression that their votes in 2018 were meaningless. It’s hard to convince folks to “fight” if it feels as though the people they elect aren’t going to do the same.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:31:44pm

re: #46 Dread Pirate

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Of course they are. Because in addition to being the racist party, they’re also the fuck the less well off party.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:40:30pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

Of course they are. Because in addition to being the racist party, they’re also the fuck the less well off party.

Indeed, the racism is to get stupid whites to vote to fuck themselves and everyone else for the rich.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:43:51pm
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William Lewis  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:46:24pm

re: #10 Old Liberal

Sean Fuckhead Duffy can go back to Ireland and his wife can go back to Mexico. Their kids? They can choose one or the other. Family separation means nothing to republicans.

That moron is my representative and no i did not vote for him. Worse, his party will be staying at the hotel I work at for the first weekend of August for the lumber jack world championship book. So I have to play at being professional while dealing with the racist & treasonous bag of bovine excrement. Pity I can’t afford to take the weekend off.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:46:30pm

re: #51 MsJ

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They’re a racist party and I’m glad their former biggest apologist no longer posts here because I would be going off.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:48:31pm

re: #52 William Lewis

That moron is my representative and no i did not vote for him. Worse, his party will be staying at the hotel I work at for the first weekend of August for the lumber jack world championship book. So I have to play at being professional while dealing with the racist & treasonous bag of bovine excrement. Pity I can’t afford to take the weekend off.

My sympathies.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:48:32pm

Fitness SCOTUS John Paul Stevens died. He was 99.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:49:56pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:50:18pm

Oh man. I saw SCOTUS and “died” and started panicking.

Whew.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:50:20pm

re: #55 MsJ

Fitness SCOTUS John Paul Stevens died. He was 99.

RIP. He was a great man and justice. What a life he lived.

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Kilroy was here  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:50:43pm

re: #51 MsJ

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Trump’s overall approval remained unchanged over the past week. According to the poll, 41% of the U.S. public said they approved of his performance in office, while 55% disapproved.
Racists love him more.. everyone else.. not so much.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:51:11pm

re: #55 MsJ

Fitness SCOTUS John Paul Stevens died. He was 99.

FORMER. fucking autocorrect.

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SteelPH  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:51:40pm

re: #53 HappyWarrior

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:51:50pm

Lre: #59 Kilroy was here

Trump’s overall approval remained unchanged over the past week. According to the poll, 41% of the U.S. public said they approved of his performance in office, while 55% disapproved.
Racists love him more.. everyone else.. not so much.

He’s got a higher floor than most but a lower ceiling.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:52:26pm

re: #61 SteelPH

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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:55:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:57:17pm

Did not know this about Stevens per Wiki but he was part of the Naval codebreakers that found out where Admiral Yamamoto’s plane was. Yamamoto planned Pearl Harbor. Stevens actively served this country from WWII to Obama. One thing I admire about him is he wasn’t set in his views and I always appreciated that President Ford defended him against the wingnuts.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:58:30pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

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Putin really is scared of women. I hope Kamala makes life hell for Vlad if she becomes Potus and he has to live in fear.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 16, 2019 • 5:59:46pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

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Ya think?

I mean her timeline is swarmed by idiobots spamming the “Not A Real Black Person!” or something something her boyfriend from 20 years ago

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retired cynic  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:00:46pm

McConnell’s Plan: Stack the Courts and Legislate From the Bench
Nancy LeTourneau, Washington Monthly

And it’s working, damn it.

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:01:00pm

re: #53 HappyWarrior

They’re a racist party and I’m glad their former biggest apologist no longer posts here because I would be going off.

You mean periodically posting “Marching Through Georgia” as one’s answer to Neo-Confederates doesn’t gain one slack for supporting racists and racist policies advocated and enacted by one’s party’s politicians, who knew?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:03:13pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:04:17pm

Lre: #69 A Three Hour Tour

You mean periodically posting “Marching Through Georgia” as one’s answer to Neo-Confederates doesn’t gain one slack for supporting racists and racist policies advocated and enacted by one’s party’s politicians, who knew?

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Ha! Yeah. Nor does being born into a Republican family. My grandfather was too and he’s why directly or indirectly most of his descendants are liberals.

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:07:18pm
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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:07:26pm

re: #51 MsJ

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So the rise was within the “credibility interval”.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:08:38pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

Her team needs to come out with some concrete examples or the media will begin to challenge her veracity on behalf of Republicans,

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:09:33pm

re: #61 SteelPH

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:10:46pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:11:25pm

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:11:31pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

re: #74 Patricia Kayden

Far too many people think attacks mean weapons and force. Russia can’t afford that, and the world would turn against them. Infiltrating our regular forms of communication is far more effective, and it’s easy to disregard it, because proof of that is like proof of climate change. You have to be willing to observe the pattern, because no single item will show it happening.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:12:27pm

re: #73 Belafon

So the rise was within the “credibility interval”.

More Republicans love the racism.

There are less and less Republicans every day.

Soon, trump will have 100% GOP support…of 26% of the voting populace.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:12:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:14:13pm

re: #78 Belafon

Far too many people think attacks mean weapons and force. Russia can’t afford that, and the world would turn against them. Infiltrating our regular forms of communication is far more effective, and it’s easy to disregard it, because proof of that is like proof of climate change. You have to be willing to observe the pattern, because no single item will show it happening.

It’s 21st century warfare. I believe I had a page on it some months back.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:14:33pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:14:39pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:14:42pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:14:44pm

re: #79 MsJ

More Republicans love the racism.

There are less and less Republicans every day.

Soon, trump will have 100% GOP support…of 26% of the voting populace.

That day can’t come soon enough.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:14:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:15:32pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:16:46pm

re: #83 A Three Hour Tour

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:17:50pm

pretty cool weather pic

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:19:01pm

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:19:11pm

re: #80 Dave In Austin

@TheRickWilson
Checks Twitter.
Sees Richard Spencer is trending.

What fresh hell is this?

It’s the other one. the SecDef
Thankfully

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:19:32pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:20:22pm

re: #91 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

It’s the other one. the SecDef
Thankfully

That we have to clarify……I mean he was Miller’s mentor.

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DangerMan  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:20:34pm

put together two ideas from today

honorsble discharged marine is denied entry at the border today on the way to his immigration hearing today. so he misses his hearing

these new policies to force asylum seekers to stay in Mexico or Guatemala etc waiting for their hearing dates

it’s not a stretch to think they won’t be allowed to cross the border to attend their hearing whenever that might be

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:21:06pm

re: #81 HappyWarrior

It’s 21st century warfare. I believe I had a page on it some months back.

Yep, and the people who wouldn’t believe the OK sign is being used by white supremacists won’t believe the Russians are attacking our elections.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:21:40pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

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AP.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:23:47pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She wasn’t talking about Jews. She was talking about people like you who use Israel to censor people and stifle debate. Fuck you, you toad. Cuban Americans like yourself and parents’ have benefited from one of the most liberal immigration policies ever yet you engage in Know Nothing bullshit because you have no integrity.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:24:05pm

re: #95 Belafon

Yep, and the people who wouldn’t believe the OK sign is being used by white supremacists won’t believe the Russians are attacking our elections.

Yep sigh.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:26:45pm

And by people like Marco I mean bigoted Fundamentalist Christians who profess to love Israel and Jews yet think Israel is how American Jews should define themselves with and think Jews are hell bound and use Antisemitic dog whistles to talk about liberal Jews.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:26:52pm

h/t balloon-juice.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:28:17pm

re: #100 Belafon

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h/t balloon-juice.com

He’s got supporters but we out number the motherfuvkers.

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Interesting Times  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:36:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:37:08pm

re: #102 Interesting Times

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How dare you point that out!//

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:40:04pm

re: #88 HappyWarrior

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:41:24pm

Here’s a cool link, an image and a video of the lunar eclipse from a Chinese satellite orbiting the moon:

ourplnt.com

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:42:04pm
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Interesting Times  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:43:54pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:44:58pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:45:54pm

JFC
Did you see #RichardSpencer trending? Because yes IT IS THAT Richard Spencer

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:47:31pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

She wasn’t talking about Jews. She was talking about people like you who use Israel to censor people and stifle debate. Fuck you, you toad. Cuban Americans like yourself and parents’ have benefited from one of the most liberal immigration policies ever yet you engage in Know Nothing bullshit because you have no integrity.

Rubio and other like-minded newcomers to America are merely parroting the modern Conservative ethos of “I’ve got mine… FUCK YOU.”

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:49:14pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:52:56pm

Weather here missed us this afternoon.

Illinois, not so much.
nhc.noaa.gov

It looks strange to see a post-tropical depression symbol in the middle of Illinois.

The link at the National Hurricane Center page goes to the Weather Prediction Center, with the latest information about the cyclone. It is moving toward Lake Erie, then Philadelphia and New York,

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:53:08pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:54:44pm

re: #111 MsJ

Did he find his way back from the Appalachian Trail? Trump would chew him up and spit him out in a primary.

Still, that means if he does jump in with Bill Weld (and maybe Larry Hogan), they’ll spend their money on each other rather than the Democrats.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:56:11pm

re: #113 Belafon

Reload

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 6:58:55pm

re: #113 Belafon

I wouldn’t bet on it.

I’m still guessing they will put it on the Website document, and not allow you to complete it unless you answer the question, “Whaddya gonna do about it? Too late to change it now.”

If it shows up on the printed census form, I intend to cross that single question out and write “Court ordered” on it.

(That’s similar to when Don’t Ask Don’t Tell was on military recruiting forms. When that law was struck down, we crossed out the question on the military application form and wrote “Court Ordered” on it.)

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:01:45pm

re: #114 Anymouse 🌹

Did he find his way back from the Appalachian Trail?

That’s the Republican party now. That’s their values. That’s what they like. That’s what they support.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:04:25pm

(video, 1:34)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:16:42pm

Jeffrey Epstein Abused Victims While Serving Time in Florida, Accuser’s Lawyer Says (Daily Beast)

Attorney Brad Edwards says a new accuser has come forward to say Epstein took advantage of work release to prey on young women.

(more)

Everywhere I look on social media, I keep seeing the faked flight log with Bill Clinton taking dozens of trips with Epstein to his private island (and yet no former secret service agent has ever come forward to mention this), and “whaddabout Bill Clinton” to deflect from Trump.

It really seems impossible for a conservative to get that child rape and trafficking is not a political thing with Democrats (while they defend Roy Moore for stalking). If evidence comes forth Bill Clinton did something illegal with Epstein, put his ass on trial.

Perhaps it’s because the Grand Old Paedophiles don’t seem to get that not everyone protects criminals.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:24:57pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:25:38pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:27:44pm

re: #111 MsJ

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Maybe he didn’t pay $130K for his little trip on the Appalachian Trail!

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:28:59pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:29:08pm

“… Fly-overs will also be curtailed, although previously scheduled events will go on as planned, the official said. …”

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:30:09pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:31:13pm

re: #125 MsJ

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Showing his classic booger flicking picture…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:31:22pm

Well, if you’re one of those who uses Amazon Prime, they are about 4.5 hours from the end of their sale today.

If you have a RWNJ friend or family member, you might consider this for about $10:

amazon.com

KNOW YOUR DEPLORABLES! Playing Cards - 1st Edition
Standard poker-sized deck of 52 playing cards, plus 2 jokers
NO FAKE NEWS—all card quotes cited & information fact-checked
Portion of sales goes to nonprofits that champion freedom of press

And a portion would go to Little Green Footballs bought through a link here.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:31:49pm

re: #124 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The carrier Harry S. Truman is deploying for a third time in four years, with the latest deployment coming in the same Optimized Fleet Response Plan cycle, which Defense News sister publication Navy Times reported was about “stretching the limits” of O-FRP.

Aircraft carriers and crews are not meant to go out that often.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:32:26pm

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹

Well, if you’re one of those who uses Amazon Prime, they are about 4.5 hours from the end of their sale today.

If you have a RWNJ friend or family member, you might consider this for about $10:

amazon.com

KNOW YOUR DEPLORABLES! Playing Cards - 1st Edition
Standard poker-sized deck of 52 playing cards, plus 2 jokers
NO FAKE NEWS—all card quotes cited & information fact-checked
Portion of sales goes to nonprofits that champion freedom of press

And a portion would go to Little Green Footballs bought through a link here.

Already stocked up on Illy Coffee via Amazon using the LGF link!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:33:31pm

re: #125 MsJ

College dropout to oversee scholars. Destruction of government institutions has long been the GOP’s goal.

I have nothing against dropping out of college, particularly since I didn’t go at all. But I wouldn’t appoint me to the Smithsonian Institute either.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:33:51pm

re: #124 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

One feature of Trump eroding our alliances.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:34:29pm

re: #121 goddamnedfrank

Credit where due: at least she owned up to having been an idiot very quickly. And she has a sense of humor about it. Puts her a couple of steps above most of right-wing Twitter, anyway.

(She went on to note that she misread the tweet while standing in the ice cream aisle at the store and thought it was Stephen Breyer who’d died.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:34:47pm

re: #128 Belafon

Aircraft carriers and crews are not meant to go out that often.

The reason we have so many aircraft carriers is so some can be on training and others can be in the yards for scheduled maintenance.

Constantly driving a ship burns out crews and is destructive to the ship.

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calochortus  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:35:19pm

It’s baby fence lizard season, apparently. These two little cuties were hanging out on the windowsill next to the front door.
Presumably their mom laid her eggs in one of the planters on the front porch.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:40:32pm

re: #129 Joe Bacon 🌹

When I run out of Tim Horton’s coffee from my last smuggling run to Canada in May, I’ll buy more through the LGF link (as Amazon sells the imported coffee directly from Canada).

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:41:41pm

re: #111 MsJ

So the guy who went on the adulterous hiking-trail is going to challenge …

At least he and Trump can agree on the invalidity of vows and creative lying doctrines of the GOP.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:43:09pm

re: #135 Anymouse 🌹

When I run out of Tim Horton’s coffee from my last smuggling run to Canada in May, I’ll buy more through the LGF link (as Amazon sells the imported coffee directly from Canada).

It may be imported from Canada, but it’s roasted in the Rochester suburbs. Next time you come this way, I’ll show you where.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:45:26pm

re: #137 i(m)p(each)sos

It may be imported from Canada, but it’s roasted in the Rochester suburbs. Next time you come this way, I’ll show you where.

There are actually two different versions. The cans are also marked differently. Canadian Tim’s is roasted in Oakville, Ontario (I looked at a can for that).

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:46:51pm

re: #131 jaunte

One feature of Trump eroding our alliances.

That, and slashing training hours for Naval Aviators works directly for our adversaries. How convenient for Russia.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:47:24pm

Reading Sanford’s Wikipedia entry, I see he is a teaching fellow at the Univ. of Chicago Institute of Politics.

The wiki’s first line is:

The Institute of Politics is an extracurricular, nonpartisan institute at the University of Chicago designed to inspire students to pursue careers in politics and public service.

So tell me, exactly, how Sanford teaching there is going to inspire public service?

Now Wikipedia’s entry itself refers to an archived entry at the Institute’s own self description on their own webpage:

The new, nonpartisan Institute of Politics at the University of Chicago is an extracurricular program designed to nurture in young people a passion for politics and public service.

At least Sanford qualifies in the “passion” department.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:48:49pm

re: #128 Belafon

Aircraft carriers and crews are not meant to go out that often.

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹

The reason we have so many aircraft carriers is so some can be on training and others can be in the yards for scheduled maintenance.

Constantly driving a ship burns out crews and is destructive to the ship.

Truman’s problem was that the carrier scheduled for deployment (can’t remember which one) had a significantly longer maintenance period than had been planned for. Way to much maintenance had kept being delayed, so when they finally got started on her there was so much more that needed to be done. Anyway, that carrier has completed it’s maintenance period, but hasn’t even begun it’s shake down and train up cycles, and there is no feasible way to acheive those in time to meet the deployment schedule

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:53:14pm

re: #134 calochortus

It’s baby fence lizard season, apparently. These two little cuties were hanging out on the windowsill next to the front door.
Presumably their mom laid her eggs in one of the planters on the front porch.

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Those look like baby windowsill lizards to me.

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calochortus  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:55:22pm

re: #142 wrenchwench

Those look like baby windowsill lizards to me.

They’re young. They haven’t found a fence yet. They will learn. ;)

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stpaulbear  Jul 16, 2019 • 7:56:58pm

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹

Well, if you’re one of those who uses Amazon Prime, they are about 4.5 hours from the end of their sale today.

If you have a RWNJ friend or family member, you might consider this for about $10:

amazon.com

KNOW YOUR DEPLORABLES! Playing Cards - 1st Edition
Standard poker-sized deck of 52 playing cards, plus 2 jokers
NO FAKE NEWS—all card quotes cited & information fact-checked
Portion of sales goes to nonprofits that champion freedom of press

And a portion would go to Little Green Footballs bought through a link here.

I bought a deck of those cards about 18 months ago. I don’t know if the current deck is updated, but about half of my cards are for people that are long gone.

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calochortus  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:01:09pm

re: #144 stpaulbear

I bought a deck of those cards about 18 months ago. I don’t know if the current deck is updated, but about half of my cards are for people that are long gone.

Hang onto them. They’ll probably have to start recycling their deplorables pretty soon.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:04:38pm

Post-Tropical Depression Barry is clipping right along. It has crossed into Indiana.

National Hurricane Center

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:08:25pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:11:58pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:12:44pm

I WON! I WON! I AM WINNING!!!

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Mattand  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:15:30pm

Greetings from South Jersey. We’re about to have a nasty heatwave from Wednesday to Sunday. Fun times.

On the bright side, the solar panels are paying for themselves big time.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:16:24pm

re: #149 teleskiguy

I WON! I WON! I AM WINNING!!!

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Such a clown.

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BigPapa  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:16:44pm

re: #148 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

that is amazing. I wonder if they used multiple projectors or some kind of laser device.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:19:03pm

Thread, five tweets, followed by a bunch of dingbats trashing her (she’s a science journalist):

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:20:21pm

re: #151 Mike Lamb

“Broke the rules of the House.” A rule the Republicans put in during the campaign in 2016 so Democrats couldn’t call him a racist on the House floor.

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gocart mozart  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:22:20pm
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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:24:39pm

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹

Thread, five tweets, followed by a bunch of dingbats trashing her (she’s a science journalist):

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So ends my following of Alyssa, and the start of following Erin.

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:26:38pm

Michael Steele needs to leave the Republican Party. He’s not welcome, he’s black.

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BlueGrl21  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:26:46pm

re: #149 teleskiguy

I WON! I WON! I AM WINNING!!!

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He forgot to mention his own achievement of being the first president EVER condemned for racism! Bravo, Don.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:27:27pm

re: #149 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:28:35pm
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Belafon  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:30:35pm

I think Marcy Wheeler makes a good point: At this point in time, we have 85 announced Reps for impeachment. We currently don’t have enough. An impeachment vote right now would fail. If we want it, we need to be calling our Congresspeople.

emptywheel.net

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retired cynic  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:31:30pm

re: #161 Belafon

I think Marcy Wheeler makes a good point: At this point in time, we have 85 announced Reps for impeachment. We currently don’t have enough. An impeachment vote right now would fail. If we want it, we need to be calling our Congresspeople.

emptywheel.net

I bet Nancy counts her caucus every day….

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:32:05pm

New Twitter is a cheap one column version of Tweetdeck.

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:33:02pm

Can’t believe it’s Friday, what a shit show this week has been.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:34:15pm

Break whilst I make dinner. (A gourmet feast of Tuna Helper.)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:38:58pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:40:15pm

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹

That, and slashing training hours for Naval Aviators works directly for our adversaries. How convenient for Russia.

As a, uh, former Army Aviator, I can endorse the truth of this. All through the Cold War, superior training, based on more flying hours, was a crucial factor in western air superiority. This has to be kept up continuously to provide the edge in proficiency. This is why flying officers who have been temporarily transferred to desk jobs are encouraged (through flight pay) to keep up a minimal number of flying hours. It is also why many bases have extra aircraft around.
I have a lot of hours in Hueys but I could not fly one now, even without the various frailties of age. I might eventually pick it up again, but it would take a lot of time and expense, as well as the services of a qualified instructor.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:43:21pm

re: #164 teleskiguy

Can’t believe it’s Friday, what a shit show this week has been.

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:46:51pm

re: #168 Rightwingconspirator

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:50:15pm

justice stevens dead at 99

trump majority supreme court

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retired cynic  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:51:53pm

re: #170 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

justice stevens dead at 99

trump majority supreme court

Nope, he retired some years ago.

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:52:41pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:53:24pm

re: #171 retired cynic

Nope, he retired some years ago.

oops

well thx dog for that

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retired cynic  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:53:56pm

re: #173 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

oops

well thx dog for that

it stopped all of our hearts for a moment!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:56:45pm

Didn’t know this.
Stevens: Early Life
As a naval officer in World War II, Justice Stevens served in the code-breaking unit whose work led to the aerial ambush that ended in the death of Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto.

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TedStriker  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:57:34pm

re: #175 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Didn’t know this.
Stevens: Early Life
As a naval officer in World War II, Justice Stevens served in the code-breaking unit whose work led to the aerial ambush that ended in the death of Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto.

Definitely a baller, Stevens was.

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:57:38pm

John Paul Stevens retired nine years ago.

Current Justices are John Roberts, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Stephen Breyer, Sonya Sotomayor, and Elena Kagan.

Did that off the top of my head. And it hurts my head that many folks in my country cannot do the same.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:58:43pm

re: #113 Belafon

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Warning. If you tweet something naughty to Toni you will be put in Twitter jail because @jack probably has a crush on her.

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:59:24pm

John Paul Stevens had the longest life of any Supreme Court Justice, ever.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 16, 2019 • 8:59:36pm

re: #174 retired cynic

it stopped all of our hearts for a moment!

my apologies

there’s a weird looking thing that for some reason people are calling “the president” these days and i guess it’s getting me all panicky

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:02:14pm

re: #177 teleskiguy

John Paul Stevens retired nine years ago.

Current Justices are John Roberts, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Stephen Breyer, Sonya Sotomayor, and Elena Kagan.

Did that off the top of my head. And it hurts my head that many folks in my country cannot do the same.

If I tried to name the currently serving justices off the top of my head, I’m pretty sure that I would forget the existence of Breyer.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:03:52pm

Deep State!

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:04:22pm

re: #181 A Three Hour Tour

If I tried to name the currently serving justices off the top of my head, I’m pretty sure that I would forget the existence of Breyer.

The same could have been said in 20 years about Merrick Garland. Alas…

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BigPapa  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:04:54pm

re: #178 Joe Bacon 🌹

Warning. If you tweet something naughty to Toni you will be put in Twitter jail because @jack probably has a crush on her.

I got a week for calling Charlie Kirk a bimbo and saying he whored himself out to rich wingnuts. Like in 60 seconds.

Consistent!

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:06:17pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:10:23pm

re: #184 BigPapa

I got a week for calling Charlie Kirk a bimbo and saying he whored himself out to rich wingnuts. Like in 60 seconds.

Consistent!

I got a week a couple years ago for using similar language with a high follower MAGAt. Had to delete the offending tweet. No tweets, retweets, or likes. I could only talk to my followers. Nothing has happened to me since, though I’m weary now especially after what happened to Vicious Babushka.

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:13:04pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:13:28pm

re: #172 teleskiguy

John C Holmes has risen from the dead…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:15:03pm

re: #184 BigPapa

I got a week for calling Charlie Kirk a bimbo and saying he whored himself out to rich wingnuts. Like in 60 seconds.

Consistent!

@jack doesn’t like anyone slandering his Alt-Right bosom buddies.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:15:05pm
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TedStriker  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:15:09pm

re: #172 teleskiguy

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BigPapa  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:19:53pm

re: #186 teleskiguy

I got the same punishment but they offered 3 days if I didn’t challenge or 7 days if I challenged. I challenged. Nothing happened.

VB being deleted is just crazy.

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:25:03pm
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fern01  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:29:58pm

re: #41 MsJ

I actually think that’s a valid response. Trump is all I’M THE SMARTEST, NOT ITTEST, BESTEST AT EVERYTHING… Typical loud mouth. Is actually enjoy watching Biden slap that smirk off of Trump’s face.

trump should be beaten by words not by the macho idea of a school yard fight.

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:30:01pm
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sagehen  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:31:41pm

re: #167 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

As a, uh, former Army Aviator, I can endorse the truth of this. All through the Cold War, superior training, based on more flying hours, was a crucial factor in western air superiority. This has to be kept up continuously to provide the edge in proficiency. This is why flying officers who have been temporarily transferred to desk jobs are encouraged (through flight pay) to keep up a minimal number of flying hours. It is also why many bases have extra aircraft around.
I have a lot of hours in Hueys but I could not fly one now, even without the various frailties of age. I might eventually pick it up again, but it would take a lot of time and expense, as well as the services of a qualified instructor.

I’ve never been military; but even as a civilian private pilot, if you don’t do a certain number of flights, hours, and landings every 90 days your license becomes legally invalid (even though it’s still in your wallet). If you fall under investigation for any reason, they look at your logbook and can retroactively declare you unlicensed.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:31:55pm

Trumps racist bone does exist. The bone the spurs were attached to.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:36:57pm

re: #163 teleskiguy

New Twitter is a cheap one column version of Tweetdeck.

I’m back. Twitter shows up on my computer the same way it always did.

re: #164 teleskiguy

Can’t believe it’s Friday, what a shit show this week has been.

And you know they can go lower. The limbo bar is now somewhere in the Earth’s mantle.

You can do a lot with Tuna Helper if you have the Penzey’s spice rack from Hell. (My wife is an addict of them ever since Wonkette profiled the company.)

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fern01  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:40:13pm

re: #111 MsJ

BREAKING: @MarkSanford, S.C. Republican and former U.S. Representative, is considering a presidential run against Trump.

And he refused to call trump a racist on MSNBC - every question he was asked he kept saying the big issue was the budget and deficits.

A true republican - from his womanising to refusing to call trump out.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:40:48pm

Wonkette profiles the latest attempt by Nunes to out-asshole himself…

wonkette.com

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:40:51pm

re: #198 Anymouse 🌹

I’m back. Twitter shows up on my computer the same way it always did.

You don’t have an account, though. I don’t know what that looks like.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:42:52pm

LOL

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:43:51pm

re: #201 teleskiguy

You don’t have an account, though. I don’t know what that looks like.

You could click on a Twitter link (how I get there) without logging in and see what it looks like to you.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:52:06pm

re: #155 gocart mozart

Lots of snowflake conservatives on that thread attacking both Rep. Omar and Rep. Lewis, calling Lewis a sell-out, equivocating on what “get out of our country” means (and not understanding a bunch of loud conservatives on Twitter doesn’t mean much since only about 1% of the USA is even on Twitter).

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 9:56:07pm

re: #157 teleskiguy

Michael Steele needs to leave the Republican Party. He’s not welcome, he’s black.

He was their “black friend.” They started trashing him as soon as his term was completed as party chair.

Then there’s this from the same person:

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:02:56pm

re: #157 teleskiguy

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Michael Steele needs to leave the Republican Party. He’s not welcome, he’s black.

He won’t.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:05:36pm

re: #160 teleskiguy

My Republicypher representative Adrian Smith (R-NE3) proudly stood for racism today in the vote.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:08:26pm

Today what was once the Party of Lincoln officially became the Party of Jefferson Davis.

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vgranucci  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:08:35pm

re: #171 retired cynic

Nope, he retired some years ago.

Replaced by Elena Kagan

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Targetpractice  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:10:36pm

re: #172 teleskiguy

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Seinfeld—George’s Shrinkage

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:21:50pm

A FB friend (who is a native American) posted support for the Squad — and he was attacked by two friends, one of whom screeched that “They represent the beginning of the end of this Country/World.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:21:59pm

re: #175 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Didn’t know this.
Stevens: Early Life
As a naval officer in World War II, Justice Stevens served in the code-breaking unit whose work led to the aerial ambush that ended in the death of Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto.

supremecourt.gov

Retired Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, John Paul Stevens, died this evening at Holy Cross Hospital in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, of complications following a stroke he suffered on July 15. He passed away peacefully with his daughters by his side. He was 99 years old. Justice Stevens was appointed to the Court by President Ford in 1975, and retired in 2010, after serving more than 34 years on the Court. He is survived by his children, Elizabeth Jane Sesemann (Craig) and Susan Roberta Mullen (Kevin), nine grandchildren: Kathryn, Christine, Edward, Susan, Lauren, John, Madison, Hannah, Haley, and 13 great grandchildren. His first wife Elizabeth Jane, his second wife, Maryan Mulholland, his son, John Joseph, and his daughter, Kathryn, preceded him in death.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:25:10pm

re: #207 Anymouse 🌹

My Republicypher representative Adrian Smith (R-NE3) proudly stood for racism today in the vote.

Only 4 Republicans and Justin Amash stood for truth. The GOP base is fully on board with racism.

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BigPapa  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:29:38pm

This made me feel a little better today:

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BigPapa  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:33:19pm

I’m sick of these cretins claiming some moral high ground that they’re American and anybody not on board with Trumpism is anti-American, haters of America. This has been going on unchallenged for 25 years.

They’re being un-American. Every bit as much as Joe McCarthy. They hate America, the America we’re trying to become, the America we were becoming. They hate that.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:36:18pm

re: #11 Belafon

Huh, yeah:

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From what?

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:42:51pm

Although we may never know with certainty the identity of the winner of this year’s Presidential election, the identity of the loser is perfectly clear. It is the Nation’s confidence in the judge as an impartial guardian of the rule of law.

—Justice John Paul Stevens, dissenting, Bush v. Gore.

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:47:09pm

re: #215 BigPapa

They’re fascists. The hard core evangelical fascists worry me the most, they have all the power now and they so desperately want to open death camps.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:48:24pm

re: #216 Eventual Carrion

From what?

I keep alternating between two theories on Trump’s racist comments
theory 1: They were designed to distract specifically either from Epstein or reporting on terrible conditions at the border or
theory 2: He is just continuing with his brilliant Gish Gallop strategy that prevents the average person from concentrating on or remembering anything that happens more than a day ago.

When will we finally be rid of this man and his evil administration? The real problem is that almost all of his domestic and economic policies (except tariffs) are traditional modern Republican policies; it is his style that violate their norms, not his actions — so it is no wonder they all love him.

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:49:51pm

Fuckface Von Clownstick’s base wants blood.

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:52:17pm

re: #214 BigPapa

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:52:30pm

re: #179 teleskiguy

John Paul Stevens had the longest life of any Supreme Court Justice, ever.

As of yet, Trump can’t be bothered with a proclamation about the death of retired Associate Justice Stevens.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:58:24pm

If Trump leaves office early (for whatever reason), won’t the entire MSM proclaim Trump an aberration and won’t the American public suffer its usual amnesia, with all those Republican women who supported the Dems in 2018, returning home to the Republican party in 2020?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 10:58:29pm

re: #215 BigPapa

I’m sick of these cretins claiming some moral high ground that they’re American and anybody not on board with Trumpism is anti-American, haters of America. This has been going on unchallenged for 25 years.

They’re being un-American. Every bit as much as Joe McCarthy. They hate America, the America we’re trying to become, the America we were becoming. They hate that.

Twenty-five years? It’s been going on since before the Vietnam War.

The slur “Democrat” as a adjective goes all the way back to the XIX Century.

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:03:04pm

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Suicide is a public health crisis around my parts. It seems to be getting worse.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:03:06pm

re: #220 teleskiguy

Fuckface Von Clownstick’s base wants blood.

Steven Crowder was repeatedly reported for posting racist and violent content to YouTube.

YouTube inve$tigated and $said he did not violate the term$-of-$ervice.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 16, 2019 • 11:35:11pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 12:26:08am
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teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2019 • 12:41:29am

re: #228 Anymouse 🌹

Crocodile tears. He’s always been a Second Civil War believer, the fucking scumbag.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 12:45:05am

Asian Americans Call Out Pence’s Chief Of Staff For ‘Tokenizing’ Elaine Chao (Huffington Post)

Jo-Ann Yoo, executive director of the social services nonprofit Asian American Federation, told HuffPost that she initially “cringed and laughed” at Short’s rationale.

“To tokenize the one Asian woman in the President’s cabinet is further evidence of the racism perpetuated in the Trump White House,” Yoo said.

She added: “Short thinks that you can absolve yourself from racism by knowing/hiring one Asian. He is dead wrong! There is diversity in communities of color and to say one person can represent all the communities of color is ignorant and insulting.”

Rep. Judy Chu (D-Calif.), chair of the Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus, echoed many of Yoo’s thoughts. In a statement to HuffPost, Chu wrote that the president’s relationship with Chao doesn’t excuse his racist tweets.

″’Go back to your home’ is an unambiguously hateful statement that Trump made simply because of the race of the four Members of Congress he was attacking,” she wrote. “I have had that attack hurled against me, as have many other Americans. And never once has the pain been lessened by knowing that the racist insult was said by somebody who may also know another minority.”

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Although I can hardly imagine the hatred directed at African-Americans and other minority communities, I’ve had the “go back to Poland” thrown at me growing up (or “go back to Mexico” because my skin colour is darker than your average white guy).

Plenty of people have said “if you don’t like the country, get out” (confusing working for change with not liking the country).

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teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2019 • 12:55:04am

I just got blocked by Justin Amash on Twitter.

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teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2019 • 1:02:06am

re: #231 teleskiguy

This is what did it.

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teleskiguy  Jul 17, 2019 • 1:05:01am
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 17, 2019 • 1:09:51am
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 17, 2019 • 2:57:05am

re: #220 teleskiguy

I hope people are reporting Rivlol for threatening violence and racism.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2019 • 3:29:17am

re: #235 Patricia Kayden

I hope people are reporting Rivlol for threatening violence and racism.

“Invaders” Nazi fucks.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2019 • 3:35:52am

re: #221 teleskiguy

We can defeat the confederates and nazis once and for all in this generation, y’all. Keep the faith. Keep pushing. Let the love for humanity and the hope for a better, future world drive us forward.

Surprisingly short-sighted. My father’s generation defeated them utterly. They have to be defeated in every generation—forever—until we grow a better brain.

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joe90  Jul 17, 2019 • 3:47:30am

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Did not know this about Stevens per Wiki but he was part of the Naval codebreakers that found out where Admiral Yamamoto’s plane was. Yamamoto planned Pearl Harbor. Stevens actively served this country from WWII to Obama. One thing I admire about him is he wasn’t set in his views and I always appreciated that President Ford defended him against the wingnuts.

My partner’s uncle Leading Signalman Campbell Howard Buchanan was posthumously awarded the US Navy Cross for his conduct during action against a Japanese submarine which ultimately resulted in US navy divers retrieving code books likely used by Operation Vengeance cryptographers.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2019 • 4:07:44am

re: #238 joe90

My partner’s uncle Leading Signalman Campbell Howard Buchanan was posthumously awarded the US Navy Cross for his conduct during action against a Japanese submarine which ultimately resulted in US navy divers retrieving code books likely used by Operation Vengeance cryptographers.

That’s awesome. When I worked for a history magazine, I helped to research an article on Joe Rochefort, the cryptographer who helped win the Battle of Midway. Guys like him, your partner’s uncle, & Stevens don’t get the glory they deserve.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2019 • 4:27:58am

re: #17 KGxvi

Look, I too am of the mind that we are in the midst of a generational change. But I was thinking more forward than back… do we really need a 90 year old person on stage?

I’m 75. Do you want me on stage, or CCJ? He passes the age filter.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 4:50:50am

re: #234 Patricia Kayden

Holy Hell, there are a bunch of hate mongers responding to David Hogg on that thread.

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jeffreyw  Jul 17, 2019 • 4:52:34am

Good morning!

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A Mom Anon  Jul 17, 2019 • 4:55:33am

re: #241 Anymouse 🌹

It’s a day ending in Y. It’s all they got left. Ain’t it pretty?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2019 • 4:57:20am

re: #243 A Mom Anon

It’s a day ending in Y. It’s all they got left. Ain’t it pretty?

They go after shooting survivors. We go after Richard Spencer. And with that, I’m off to start work.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 4:59:26am

Not exactly sure what Governor Ricketts of Nebraska and the Sorghum Producers Association is trying to achieve here. While the project goes to the Veterans History Project at the Library of Congress and the state isn’t paying for this, it reads like both marketing strategy documents and an advertisement.

Gov. Ricketts Announces “Sorghum Cares” Initiative with Sorghum Producers Association and Dept. of Veterans’ Affairs (goes to the Nebraska state government)

This morning, Governor Pete Ricketts announced a new volunteer initiative, “Sorghum Cares: Preserving Our Heritage. Building Our Future,” to collect and preserve the stories of Nebraska veterans. The Nebraska Sorghum Producers Association (NeSPA) and Nebraska Department of Veterans’ Affairs (NDVA) have partnered to launch the initiative, with key support from Humanities Nebraska.

“Our veterans have made great sacrifices so that we can live in a land of liberty,” said Governor Ricketts. “This project documents their stories of sacrifice, and preserves them for future generations of Nebraskans.”

NeSPA routinely conducts outreach across the state to strengthen relationships with consumers, producers, and industry and educational partners and to develop value-added markets. The “Sorghum Cares” initiative will be incorporated into NeSPA’s regular monthly outreach across the state. Following these outreach events, members of the NeSPA staff, serving in a volunteer capacity, will meet with members of the veteran community to record their experiences. The veteran interviews will be archived at the Library of Congress as part of the Veterans History Project. No checkoff funds will be utilized as part of this initiative.

“Recording the experiences of Nebraska veterans is important to our heritage, and it ensures that future generations can glean lessons from their leadership and sacrifices,” said Nate Blum, Executive Director of NeSPA. “Sorghum is also an important part of Nebraska’s rich heritage, having been grown in the state from nearly the moment pioneers homesteaded the plains. Modern sorghum offers 21st-century producers opportunities to diversify their operations and gives them greater access to value-added markets.”

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 17, 2019 • 5:06:07am

re: #241 Anymouse 🌹

Not surprised at all.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 5:15:11am

re: #246 Patricia Kayden

Not surprised at all.

It’s a target rich environment for blocking if you are on Twitter (or reporting, as appropriate).

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MsJ  Jul 17, 2019 • 5:16:41am

re: #241 Anymouse 🌹

Holy Hell, there are a bunch of hate mongers responding to David Hogg on that thread.

He is well used to hate mongers all over every tweet. They’ve been that way since he was almost murdered and spoke out about it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 5:20:19am

re: #248 MsJ

He is well used to hate mongers all over every tweet. They’ve been that way since he was almost murdered and spoke out about it.

Wingnuts continue to say he wasn’t at the school at the time (when they’re not denying the shooting didn’t happen at all).

The Parkville families need to get an organisation running like the Newtown families have, to take the trolls down. Unfortunately that takes a lot of time and work.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 17, 2019 • 5:20:27am

re: #248 MsJ

They’re still slinging shit at him for being a liar because he wasn’t at school that day because reasons. It’s a never ending shit cannon with these people.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 5:23:34am

National Hurricane Center

Post-Tropical Depression Barry is now at the tri-state line of Indiana, Ohio, and Michigan, not having lost any strength overnight.

They are predicting large amounts of rain in Tennessee, Ohio, the Mid-Atlantic states, and southern New England.

Flash flood watches are in effect in the Mid-Atlantic states.
nhc.noaa.gov (latest text update)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 5:31:19am

Kellyanne Conway Denies Trump Wants Ethnostate, Asks Whether Reporter Is Hutu Or Tutsi (goes to Wonkette)

Kellyanne Conway had one of her little moments today. When reporter Andrew Feinberg asked her to explain what she thought Donald Trump was getting at with his “go back where you came from” comments, she replied by asking him what his own ethnicity was, as human American people routinely do. Feinberg, who’s Jewish, wasn’t willing to play her dumb game, so we may never find out what brilliant rhetorical point Conway was trying to set up. Probably something completely innocent and yet profound about how the only thing that defines us is our loyalty to America, as embodied by the Great Man, so shame on Feinberg for ruining it. Some people clearly do not love America.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 5:38:00am

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 5:39:26am

For anyone who still thinks that George Conway is somehow friendly to liberals (or at least his never-Trumper stance is somehow beneficial), here’s his bio at The Federalist Society.

George T. Conway from the List of Contributors to the Federalist Society

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 5:41:13am

re: #254 Anymouse 🌹

For anyone who still thinks that George Conway is somehow friendly to liberals (or at least his never-Trumper stance is somehow beneficial), here’s his bio at The Federalist Society.

George T. Conway from the List of Contributors to the Federalist Society

I’ve know all along that George is even more of a fraud than KKKellyanne!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 5:47:41am

Former statewide judge leaves GOP, citing Trump’s racism (Goes to the Austin Statesman)

Citing what she called President Donald Trump’s racist ideology, Elsa Alcala, a retired Republican judge on the state’s highest criminal court, announced on Facebook that she can no longer support the GOP and has left the party.

“It has taken me years to say this publicly but here I go. President Trump is the worst president in the history of this country,” Alcala wrote Monday. “Even accepting that Trump has had some successes — and I believe these are few — at his core, his ideology is racism. To me, nothing positive about him could absolve him of his rotten core.”

Another courageous retired Republican quits the party.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 5:49:25am

re: #256 Anymouse 🌹

Former statewide judge leaves GOP, citing Trump’s racism (Goes to the Austin Statesman)

Another courageous retired Republican quits the party.

See how Republicans act just like Soviet Communists!

If you dissent from the Party Line you are purged out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2019 • 5:51:03am

JFC, the moron is gonna be lit tonight

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 5:53:53am

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 5:55:11am

re: #214 BigPapa

This made me feel a little better today:

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I really should read threads from the beginning…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2019 • 5:57:20am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 5:59:10am

re: #236 HappyWarrior

“Invaders” Nazi fucks.

They’ve been using that phrase all my life.

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:00:53am

re: #230 Anymouse 🌹

Asian Americans Call Out Pence’s Chief Of Staff For ‘Tokenizing’ Elaine Chao (Huffington Post)

(more)

Although I can hardly imagine the hatred directed at African-Americans and other minority communities, I’ve had the “go back to Poland” thrown at me growing up (or “go back to Mexico” because my skin colour is darker than your average white guy).

Plenty of people have said “if you don’t like the country, get out” (***confusing working for change with not liking the country)****.

***Spot on!

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:02:21am

re: #233 teleskiguy

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At least he probably read it first

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:04:21am

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC, the moron is gonna be lit tonight

Notice how he only mentions the stock market when it rises.

finance.yahoo.com

The Dow is actually down after his racist tirade on Twitter.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:07:53am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It’s going to be a heat wave in some parts of the area, but NYC wont officially get a heat wave until Friday-Sunday (and Saturday is projected to get air temps to 100 and with the humidity the realfeel will be like 110). Thanks but no thanks.

I’d rather go to a socialist country where there are cooling centers and AC than deal with the fetid cesspool that Trumpworld wants for the nation where the 1% can bask in the AC while everyone else slaves away til their dying day.

How awful is Trumpworld? Let’s count the ways from just the past 24 hours.

Trump gets called a racist in the House, and the GOP would rather penalize those making the factual determination than holding Trump accountable for being a fucking racist.

Trump’s NRC wants to decrease the number of inspections of the nation’s nuclear power plants. What could possibly go wrong with an industry that has repeatedly had accidents and companies are regularly trying to cut corners because the profit margins are so tight. Companies that have never dealt with nuclear power facilities before are now acting as operators or are taking charge of decommissioning, which means that nuclear materials are being handled in new and unexpected ways by those who haven’t had experience before.

Trumpworld held a Women for Trump event, and it went exactly as expected - white women who are comfortable with a self admitted sex predator whose Access Hollywood video corroborates the accusations by 22 women that Trump sexually assaulted them.

And then there’s the new Trump-Epstein video that shows the two yukking it up, and Trump being the lout we all knew him to be.

I know I’m missing a bunch too.

Oh yeah, the GOP and Trump continue to press forward on their effort to find Obamacare unconstitutional, which would drive more than 20 million off insurance, and hike costs to nearly 25% of the nation as protections for preexisting conditions is eliminated. They don’t have a plan except to savage the safety net.

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Ming5000  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:10:03am

re: #241 Anymouse 🌹

Holy Hell, there are a bunch of hate mongers responding to David Hogg on that thread.

Geez, you are right. What a cesspool of MAGAs.

Ripe blocking grounds, though.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:15:58am

This douchecanoe’s military career is over.

A soldier was filmed cursing America and twisting a woman’s arm. He’s been detained, the Army says. (Washington Post, the lede, with video, 1:11 and other videos from other angles, white man cursing at a black woman and attacks her, claims he doesn’t care about the Army, NSFW):

The soldier was in full uniform when a decidedly civilian conflict unfolded outside a shopping mall in Savannah, Ga. But by the end of a shouting match — which lasted at most a couple of minutes — the man had ripped off his camouflage jacket, twisted a woman’s arm behind her back and declared in an expletive-laden tirade that he didn’t care about the Army and he didn’t care about the country its members are sworn to protect.

This occurred at Oglethorpe Mall in Savannah. The 3rd Infantry Division has detained him.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:16:17am

When brainwashed relatives cheer Trumps racist tweets and praise Republicans voting down yesterday’s resolution it’s time to cut them off and block them on Facebook.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:16:27am
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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:16:32am

USA today poll

More than two-thirds of those aware of the controversy, 68%, called Trump’s tweets offensive. Among Republicans alone, however, 57% said they agreed with tweets that told the congresswomen to go back to their “original” countries, and a third “strongly” agreed with them. All four lawmakers are American citizens; three were born in the United States

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:19:46am

re: #232 teleskiguy

This is what did it.

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This is what I have talked about before, though:

“Why won’t Republicans speak out against Trump?”
Republican speaks out against Trump.
“If they hate Trump so much, why do they stay a Republican?”
Republican leaves party.
“They’re still just a Republican.”

What’s the point?

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:20:02am

re: #265 Anymouse 🌹

I read somewhere that the markets were up 15% before his idiotic trade wars began in earnest, and only 3% since.

So much winning.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:20:06am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:20:25am

re: #269 Joe Bacon 🌹

When brainwashed relatives cheer Trumps racist tweets and praise Republicans voting down yesterday’s resolution it’s time to cut them off and block them on Facebook.

I’m sorry you have to deal with that.

Flame on:

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Old Liberal  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:20:26am

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹

College dropout to oversee scholars. Destruction of government institutions has long been the GOP’s goal.

I have nothing against dropping out of college, particularly since I didn’t go at all. But I wouldn’t appoint me to the Smithsonian Institute either.

He not only dropped out I believe he was disciplined for dishonesty in a college election.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:21:51am

re: #273 lawhawk

I read somewhere that the markets were up 15% before his idiotic trade wars began in earnest, and only 3% since.

So much winning.

There’s a chart which occasionally floats around on social media showing the crash under GW Bush, the long recovery under Barack Obama, and the tiny gain under Trump.

Trump claims the whole gain as his.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:30:35am

re: #276 Old Liberal

He not only dropped out I believe he was disciplined for dishonesty in a college election.

According to Wikipedia, that font of human ken [citation needed], they say he dropped out in “good standing” with a GPA of 2.59 and 94 of the 128 needed to graduate.

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:30:59am
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carey94tt  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:31:00am

Scary moment on the way to work when I turned on NPR…here was Nina Totenberg discussing the death of a Supreme Court justice. Oh shit. No way. NO WAY.

Took to near the end of the segment to realize it was Stevens.

No need for coffee this morning.

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:32:49am

re: #280 carey94tt

Scary moment on the way to work when I turned on NPR…here was Nina Totenberg discussing the death of a Supreme Court justice. Oh shit. No way. NO WAY.

Took to near the end of the segment to realize it was Stevens.

No need for coffee this morning.

There’s been a lot of that

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:33:45am

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

Support to Kobach just meant not carrying his, uh, water (yeah, that).

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:36:12am

re: #277 Anymouse 🌹

Similar chart for job growth and the economic expansion under Obama and Trump.

We’re going on 130 months of growths, 75% of which occurred under Obama.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:43:03am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:45:12am
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William Lewis  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:45:43am

Not that they’ll care, but I sent an email to my worthless POS congressman, Sean Duffy, today:

Your pretense of caring about the children in the concentration camps was shown as the lie it is with your refusal to vote to condemn the racism and xenophobia of our president. This is unsurprising considering you’ve been supporting him ever since the Acts of War by the Russian Federation that put him in office. Real Americans will remember this.

Duffy = support for racism. Support for hate. Support for concentration camps. Will you support him when he orders his Gestapo in the ICE to start murdering children? His dementia is making his hatred more intense, becoming paranoia: It is only a matter of when, not if, those orders are given. But I expect you’ll cheer the day those orders are given as you have refused to help end the concentration camps. After all, Republicans are only “Pro-Life” when they’re fetuses. After children are born, we know Republicans want them to die, slowly and painfully as shown by your programs and voted - destroying health care, education, food assistance and anything needed by poor children through out the nation.

You are the one that is Anti-American, Congressman. You are a disgrace to the constitution and to the decent people of Wisconsin. As a veteran I am utterly and completely disgusted with you and the racist fascism of the Republican party that you represent. You have sided with Russia against this nation. Again, real Americans will remember that you do not support us and that you hate children enough to put them in concentration camps.

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:46:38am

A Texas judge, on the court of appeals here, has left the GOP because of Trump:

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:49:22am

What’s Taking So Long? (from today’s electoral-vote.com)

…quite a few readers have noted that the various House committees are moving awfully slowly when it comes to the various subpoenas, findings of contempt, etc. being leveled against members of the Trump administration. Certainly, much of the Democratic base has noticed, particularly the progressive and activist folks, who want action now.

take 5 minutes and read the underlying politico

- the house dems arent doing nothing
- it sounds like they know exactly what they’re doing
- they are on this every day
- there is way more strategizing going on than what we get from news, twitter, media, etc

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:51:13am

So, that sweetheart plea deal for Epstein, where he was able to work in an office half the time, and the NYPD never bothered to do their regularly scheduled check-ins?

It’s so much worse than that… as apparently Epstein was still engaging in malfeasance all along.

That accords with what additional victims have said - that he abused them after the plea deal was in place.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:52:58am

re: #273 lawhawk

I read somewhere that the markets were up 15% before his idiotic trade wars began in earnest, and only 3% since.

So much winning.

Overall, the Dow Jones is up almost 38% and the S&P almost 33% since he assumed office. For us retirees relying on 401k, since many (most?) of us don’t have a traditional pension, that is good news. And too many may vote only on very narrow economic grounds.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:53:29am

re: #288 DangerMan

What’s Taking So Long? (from today’s electoral-vote.com)

take 5 minutes and read the underlying politico

- the house dems arent doing nothing
- it sounds like they know exactly what they’re doing
- they are on this every day
- there is way more strategizing going on than what we get from news, twitter, media, etc

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rhuarc  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:53:59am

re: #286 William Lewis

Not that they’ll care, but I sent an email to my worthless POS congressman, Sean Duffy, today:

So I watched that clip of Duffy from the House yesterday about Trump’s tweet not naming anybody so how could everybody know who he was talking about? And then Trump today tweeted out that he WAS talking about those 4 congresswomen. Will these idiot Republican lawmakers ever learn to stop trying to defend Trump as he will inevitably prove them stupid for their pretzel logic defense? Duffy should just have stuck to the MTV/Real World circuit. At least you’re supposed to look dumb there.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:54:31am

re: #287 Belafon

A Texas judge, on the court of appeals here, has left the GOP because of Trump:

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Good.

We need to be seeing more of this, especially as we head into next year’s elections.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 6:57:15am

re: #292 rhuarc

So I watched that clip of Duffy from the House yesterday about Trump’s tweet not naming anybody so how could everybody know who he was talking about? And then Trump today tweeted out that he WAS talking about those 4 congresswomen. Will these idiot Republican lawmakers ever learn to stop trying to defend Trump as he will inevitably prove them stupid for their pretzel logic defense? Duffy should just have stuck to the MTV/Real World circuit. At least you’re supposed to look dumb there.

He does this to GOP congressmen just as he does to his base. It’s a loyalty test (and he’s a racist).

I’m also getting really tired of hearing conservatives say or write “you libs play the race card so much it doesn’t mean anything” of “you don’t have an argument.”

Point the First: The correct usage of “playing the race card” is “race-baiting.”
Point the Second: And we’re going to keep calling him a racist until he quits acting like one.
Point the Third: If you have to deflect from a racist by saying “you’re playing the race card,” well, that means you’re a racist as well.

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:01:27am

‘Sir’ alert: This one word is a telltale sign Trump is being dishonest
Daniel Dale, CNN

I’ve fact-checked every word Trump has uttered since his inauguration. I can tell you that if this President relays an anecdote in which he has someone referring to him as “sir,” then some major component of the anecdote is very likely to be wrong.

Lots of people do call Trump “sir,” of course. But the word seems to pop into his head more frequently when he is inventing or exaggerating a conversation than when he is faithfully relaying one. A “sir” is a flashing red light that he is speaking from his imagination rather than his memory.

In poker parlance, it’s a tell.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:02:37am

re: #287 Belafon

A Texas judge, on the court of appeals here, has left the GOP because of Trump:

She retired from the court on Dec 31, 2018.

As I noted above, another profile in Republican courage, only calling out racism from the safety of retirement.

Where was she about the GOP’s racism from Milliken pushing Goldwater forward? They have been the racist party her whole life (born in 1964). She’s only upset that Trump is saying the quiet parts out loud.

I’ll wait to see if she follows up with actions to repair the damage.
en.wikipedia.org (her bio)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:08:10am

re: #99 HappyWarrior

And by people like Marco I mean bigoted Fundamentalist Christians who profess to love Israel and Jews yet think Israel is how American Jews should define themselves with and think Jews are hell bound and use Antisemitic dog whistles to talk about liberal Jews.

Because they do not give a fuck about Jews or Judaism and only support Israel because they need a resurgent Jewish state to realize their apocalyptic End Times prophecies and kick-start Armageddon.

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:14:24am

re: #291 Anymouse 🌹

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- House Democrats say they are also focused on meticulously building a record of the Trump administration’s resistance to their investigations in order to help persuade a court to rule in their favor and break the White House blockade. Rushing into it, they say, could backfire — even as angst on the left has begun to swell.

- “they’ve laid down such a gauntlet for the Congress that we don’t have any precedent for dealing with this level of lawlessness.” Rep. Jared Huffman (D-Calif.)

- “This is very serious business, so when we go to court, we absolutely have to win,” said Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.), a member of the Judiciary Committee. “So that’s why we’re making sure we have bulletproof cases when we do go to court.”

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:18:49am

re: #296 Anymouse 🌹

She retired from the court on Dec 31, 2018.

As I noted above, another profile in Republican courage, only calling out racism from the safety of retirement.

Where was she about the GOP’s racism from Milliken pushing Goldwater forward? They have been the racist party her whole life (born in 1964). She’s only upset that Trump is saying the quiet parts out loud.

I’ll wait to see if she follows up with actions to repair the damage.
en.wikipedia.org (her bio)

she said she will be voting for the democrats
i cant speak to damage repair

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:18:59am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:20:35am

re: #299 DangerMan

she said she will be voting for the democrats
i cant speak to damage repair

Well, that’s a start on damage repair.

She can expect death threats and hate mail for her apostasy for leaving her religion.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:24:32am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:24:44am
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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:29:33am

re: #301 Anymouse 🌹

Well, that’s a start on damage repair.

She can expect death threats and hate mail for her apostasy for leaving her religion.

you’re right. politics is learned the same way religion is.

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William Lewis  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:29:41am

re: #303 The Pie Overlord!

Amen.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:30:57am
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Ace-o-aces  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:31:15am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:31:41am

Another pwn of Dumbshit D’Stupid, it must be a day ending in y

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:32:53am

We still have to wait 24 hours before we hear whether Epstein gets to await trial from behind bars, or is allowed to post bail.

Compare that to R. Kelly, who will await trial while sitting in jail.

Wealth and whiteness still has its privileges.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:33:17am

re: #308 The Pie Overlord!

Another pwn of Dumbshit D’Stupid, it must be a day ending in y

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Dinesh, you jackass, he nearly was lynched but yeah you, you who dated Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham know so much more than John Lewis. Fuck off.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:34:56am

The GOP ceased any moral authority on Civil Rights when they nominated Goldwater- an opponent of the CRA 1964 for President and it’s been downhill ever since.

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Teukka  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:35:42am

re: #303 The Pie Overlord!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:38:09am

re: #304 DangerMan

you’re right. politics is learned the same way religion is.

Politics doesn’t have to be religious.

If for some reason the Democratic Party started promoting racism or defending sex criminals for example, I’d be gone.

I arrived at my position through reasoning out what the parties had done before the first time I cast a vote.

GOP: Be careful what you wish for, because Bill Clinton might be entangled in crime with Jeffery Epstein.

Dems: If the evidence shows Bill Clinton should be dragged into court over Jeffery Epstein, drag his ass into court.

GOP: I don’t understand.

Dems: Exactly.

For a conservative, they must win. They must defend the indefensible or irrational or unsupported, which is what makes conservatism a religion. It is why they go on the attack when someone realises that the GOP does not reflect their values and leaves.

For all the attacks over the years Justin Amash made on liberals, his decision to leave the GOP over overt racism has caused him to receive hate mail, death threats, calls of a RINO (apostasy).

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:38:49am

El Chapo was sentenced to life in prison, and he claims he’s a victim of the justice system.

His victims could not be reached for comment.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:39:42am

re: #313 Anymouse 🌹

No greater crime…. apostasy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:41:06am

re: #311 HappyWarrior

The GOP ceased any moral authority on Civil Rights when they nominated Goldwater- an opponent of the CRA 1964 for President and it’s been downhill ever since.

And Goldwater was only nominated through the ceaseless work of a textile magnate named Milliken, who used racists to drum up support for Goldwater. That GOP convention was one of the most contentious in history, pitting the powerful Rockefeller wing against Milliken and his new social conservative wing. Milliken spent insane amounts of money in a Sixties election to ensure Goldwater was the nominee.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:41:21am

Governor candidates Bevin and Beshear are participating in a Kentucky Farm Bureau forum right now.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:42:49am

re: #315 lawhawk

No greater crime…. apostasy.

Pretty much. Sort of synonymous with “heresy.”

Heathen not so much, because you can always kill them later if you don’t convert them.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:43:27am

Lre: #316 Anymouse 🌹

And Goldwater was only nominated through the ceaseless work of a textile magnate named Milliken, who used racists to drum up support for Goldwater. That GOP convention was one of the most contentious in history, pitting the powerful Rockefeller wing against Milliken and his new social conservative wing. Milliken spent insane amounts of money in a Sixties election to ensure Goldwater was the nominee.

That’s my point. Then you had the Southern strategy started by Nixon but perfected by Reagan and refined for a new century by Trump. And Willie Horton in between. If they nominate Rocky in 1964, they’re a better party today. Not one id belong to but a potentially sensible center right party.

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BigPapa  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:44:29am

re: #303 The Pie Overlord!

There are a lot of scripts to be flipped. That’s one of them.

The other is that Trumpers are American and rejecting Trumpism is anti-American. That needs to flip. Part of the unchallenged subversive messaging for decades is ‘the liberals/media’ as a nefarious anti-American plot to destroy America by making it socialist… and now they’re bringing out the mothballed communist label.

This is coming to a head. Keep up the pressure. Trump’s about to pop.

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Teukka  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:44:34am

re: #315 lawhawk

No greater crime…. apostasy.

At times, I suspect that the current GOP behavior is the monotheistic equivalent of the polytheistic FAIL of standing in a half-full bathtub in a thunderstorm, wearing a chain mail, hurling insults at the deities of lightning…
There is no way their tactic is going to end well for them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:45:58am

re: #321 Teukka

At times, I suspect that the current GOP behavior is the monotheistic equivalent of the polytheistic FAIL of standing in a half-full bathtub in a thunderstorm, wearing a chain mail, hurling insults at the deities of lightning…
There is no way their tactic is going to end well for them.

Oddly enough, it has gone well so far, got them the Presidency, two more seats on the SCOTUS, a massive tax cut, repeal of abortion rights, a border crackdown and a gutting of ACA

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:46:55am

re: #321 Teukka

At times, I suspect that the current GOP behavior is the monotheistic equivalent of the polytheistic FAIL of standing in a half-full bathtub in a thunderstorm, wearing a chain mail, hurling insults at the deities of lightning…
There is no way their tactic is going to end well for them.

That might be why Mitch McConnell went on television yesterday asking to tone down the political rhetoric (though he both siderised it). He might becoming aware he’s losing control of his power, and the 2020 election might actually be at risk for the Senate.

Edit “today” to “yesterday.”

I think he’s already lost control of a lot of the GOP base, and is starting to lose control of his caucus.

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BigPapa  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:46:56am

re: #260 DangerMan

I really should read threads from the beginning…

Naw. Good messages bear repeating. I saw it posted on an earlier thread and knowingly reposted it. Keep in formation.

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steve_davis  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:47:32am

re: #172 teleskiguy

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and cold water, at that, so really you can’t tease.

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:48:49am

re: #313 Anymouse 🌹

Politics doesn’t have to be religious.

If for some reason the Democratic Party started promoting racism or defending sex criminals for example, I’d be gone.

I arrived at my position through reasoning out what the parties had done before the first time I cast a vote.

GOP: Be careful what you wish for, because Bill Clinton might be entangled in crime with Jeffery Epstein.

Dems: If the evidence shows Bill Clinton should be dragged into court over Jeffery Epstein, drag his ass into court.

GOP: I don’t understand.

Dems: Exactly.

For a conservative, they must win. They must defend the indefensible or irrational or unsupported, which is what makes conservatism a religion. It is why they go on the attack when someone realises that the GOP does not reflect their values and leaves.

For all the attacks over the years Justin Amash made on liberals, his decision to leave the GOP over overt racism has caused him to receive hate mail, death threats, calls of a RINO (apostasy).

of course… i was in a hurry typing

some learn religion and stick with the dogma, because it’s drilled early, or out of fear or believing the stories of eternal damnation or whatever
others open their eyes, investigate, arent afraid of learning about other religions and people.
some decide that a different religion than that of their youth is more suitable
or none at all

politics is no different

for me it’s always this:

I don’t care about your politics (or religion). I care how you decide what your politics or religion is.

how you develop that position, how you make your evaluations and decisions. The process - the critical thinking, in gathering info, acceptance of what you hear and see, that is more of a window on who you are (and aren’t) than anything else.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:49:23am
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steve_davis  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:50:27am

re: #195 teleskiguy

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LOL! Keanu Reeves looks no difference because he’s a completely wooden actor, so he just gets a little darker of a patina.

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Teukka  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:50:43am

re: #322 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Oddly enough, it has gone well so far, got them the Presidency, two more seats on the SCOTUS, a massive tax cut, repeal of abortion rights, a border crackdown and a gutting of ACA

I’m aware of that, but my gut says that they can only go so far without inviting massive blowback.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:51:15am

re: #303 The Pie Overlord!

That was a good call.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:56:05am

Latest fix on post-tropical depression Barry is in Ohio moving into Lake Erie.

nhc.noaa.gov

The water temperatures on the west end of the lake are over 80°F. In theory that would be enough to support intensification, it is moving awfully fast (23 mph). It is 75 miles from Cleveland.

It looks strange to see a tropical system that far inland.

glerl.noaa.gov (water temperatures in Lake Erie)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 17, 2019 • 7:58:08am

re: #329 Teukka

I’m aware of that, but my gut says that they can only go so far without inviting massive blowback.

Our guts have been saying that since 2016…

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Teukka  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:03:04am

So this crossed my feeds:


Sauce: r/vaxxhappened
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:03:35am

re: #331 Anymouse 🌹

With the crazy weather we have been having it seems possible.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:03:50am

GOP Senate candidate: ‘Homosexual activities’ ruined great TV shows like ‘I love Lucy’ (Deadstate, more at the link):

According to Alabama Secretary of State and Republican U.S. Senate candidate John Merrill, the country is in a moral crisis thanks to the “homosexual activities” and “wife swap shows” that currently dominate entertainment television.

Speaking at a town hall event this past weekend, Merrill lamented what he sees as America’s cultural decline and the loss of wholesome TV shows. Speaking later to al.com, he reaffirmed his comments.

“The foundational principles which we have grown up as a nation are no more,” Merrill said. “There’s no more TV shows like ‘Gunsmoke’ or ‘Bonanza’ or ‘The Virginian’ or ‘I Love Lucy’ or ‘Andy Griffith.’ [I] said people are too interested in homosexual activities. They’re too interested in the wife swap TV shows and the shows that are not morally uplifting. That’s the problem.”

When pressed further, Merrill declared that he “meant what I said.”

Why would we want morally uplifting? We can watch the antics of such people as Donald Trump, Roy Moore, or Franklin Graham, and do the opposite.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:08:34am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:09:21am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:09:38am

re: #335 Anymouse 🌹

We can also look at the antics of the preachers with the loudest platforms, and the largest crowds, and do the opposite of them to be morally uplifting.

Come to the dark side, Mark. We have cookies.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:10:43am

re: #336 Ace-o-aces

Canned hunts?

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:12:05am

re: #339 lawhawk

Canned hunts?

Either that or it’s a stuffed tiger.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:13:15am

re: #340 Ace-o-aces

Tiger? It looks like a leopard.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:14:09am

re: #336 Ace-o-aces

There isn’t even dust on their shoes.

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Old Liberal  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:15:25am

re: #278 Anymouse 🌹

According to Wikipedia, that font of human ken [citation needed], they say he dropped out in “good standing” with a GPA of 2.59 and 94 of the 128 needed to graduate.

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Here is an article detailing issues
m.huffpost.com

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William Lewis  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:15:40am

re: #329 Teukka

I doubt it.

The only blowback that matters is the GOTV.

If the turtle headed racist or Putin’s puppet are still in power, things will only get worse.
.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:15:48am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:15:48am

Folks dunking on Mark Taylor in that Tea Pain thread:

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Teukka  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:17:27am

re: #344 William Lewis

I doubt it.

The only blowback that matters is the GOTV.

If the turtle headed racist or Putin’s puppet are still in power, things will only get worse.
.

IMO, they seem more and more incapable of judging what they can get away with, which means that if they overstep bad enough, it will be a “Let them eat cake” moment…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:22:43am

re: #343 Old Liberal

Here is an article detailing issues
m.huffpost.com

His discipline for breaking school campaigning rules was he was required to start one day later than everyone else, according to the article.

He also got caught during the campaign breaking other rules.

Politifact also notes his opponent also broke campaign rules.

politifact.com

They note his opponent won, but was impeached and removed from the student government shortly after. That article also goes into the issues of his time at the Jesuit school, for which Scott Walker gave permission to the university to allow Politifact to interview people and look at his records.

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William Lewis  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:23:19am

re: #347 Teukka

They can already put children in concentration camps with impunity.

They may do something that should be that moment but not enough will be bothered to care enough to stir out of their Laz-i-boy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:24:10am
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:25:51am

re: #350 Anymouse 🌹

Maybe we should send Mark Meadows back to whatever “meadow” he came from.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:26:06am

re: #338 Anymouse 🌹

That poor chap. That’s what untreated mental illness looks like. I really do hope he can get some help.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:28:06am

re: #346 Anymouse 🌹

Folks dunking on Mark Taylor in that Tea Pain thread:

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Only a matter of time before someone finds Mark Taylor’s Grindr account…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:28:41am

re: #351 PhillyPretzel

Maybe we should send Mark Meadows back to whatever “meadow” he came from.

He was born in Verdun, France.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:29:28am
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:30:25am

re: #354 Anymouse 🌹

He should go back there. I think Macron will throw him out.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:31:22am

re: #356 PhillyPretzel

He should go back there. I think Macron will throw him out.

Is The Bastille in use lately? /s

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:32:16am
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sagehen  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:32:50am

re: #309 lawhawk

We still have to wait 24 hours before we hear whether Epstein gets to await trial from behind bars, or is allowed to post bail.

Compare that to R. Kelly, who will await trial while sitting in jail.

Wealth and whiteness still has its privileges.

Just whiteness; R Kelly has plenty of wealth.

And unlike Epstein, he can easily explain how he acquired that wealth.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:33:37am

re: #352 Dr Lizardo

That poor chap. That’s what untreated mental illness looks like. I really do hope he can get some help.

Yes.

Mark needs a pool boy stud.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:34:26am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:35:15am

re: #360 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes.

Mark needs a pool boy stud.

What have you got against pool boys? /s

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:35:32am

re: #361 Anymouse 🌹

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NPR =

Nothing but
Propaganda for
Republicans

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:35:58am

re: #359 sagehen

Just whiteness; R Kelly has plenty of wealth.

And unlike Epstein, he can easily explain how he acquired that wealth.

Wealth enabled R. Kelly to avoid prison thus far. His lack of whiteness relates to that he’s awaiting trial from jail, and not bail. Epstein’s wealth and whiteness meant he got the sweetheart deal he did in FL, and that the judge didn’t automatically toss him in jail to await trial on child sex trafficking charges instead of having a bail hearing w/ruling to come tomorrow.

But as you say, we know how R. Kelly got his wealth. We still don’t know how Epstein made all his money.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:39:06am

The headline made me laugh (and reminds me of the best of the NY Post):

Woman went topless to escape police grasp, but she was caught in a flash: authorities (via nj.com).

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:39:43am

re: #363 Joe Bacon 🌹

NPR =

Nothing but
Propaganda for
Republicans

“Racist” is not a “moral label.” It is a description of behaviour.

I let NPR have it in a letter last year when they had a spokesperson on to discuss immigration problems from FAIR, without identifying what FAIR was beyond its name.

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retired cynic  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:41:21am

Would You Submit to a Background Check to Save a Child’s Life?
Washington Monthly

According to a study published in Pediatrics on Monday, if congress had passed universal background checks for buying a gun following the Newtown shooting, it is possible that almost 1,000 of the children who have died since then as a result of guns would be alive today.

Edited to clarify link.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:42:39am

On NPR’s newsroom training and diversity guy:

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retired cynic  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:43:06am

re: #367 retired cynic

Edited to clarify link.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:44:37am

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

Marrying other species?

O_o

Wait, lemme guess…….he considers non-whites to be a different species of human. Hell, he probably doesn’t even consider them to be human at all.

*spit*

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sagehen  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:46:16am

re: #322 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Oddly enough, it has gone well so far, got them the Presidency, two more seats on the SCOTUS, a massive tax cut, repeal of abortion rights, a border crackdown and a gutting of ACA

It also went pretty well for awhile for Pete Wilson’s Republicans in California. Anti-immigration, anti-tax, etc. They held power long enough to pass rules that required a supermajority to overturn.

But the backlash was fearsome to behold; today, the congressional delegation of 53 seats has 7 Republicans. The State Assembly has 61 Democrats and 18 Republicans; State Senate is 29 Democrats and 11 Republicans. In the 2016 presidential race, Hillary got 61.7% of the vote.

Suck on that, Nixon and Reagan.

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marcusgorillius  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:47:32am

re: #336 Ace-o-aces

That picture should be the other way around.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:48:14am

re: #371 sagehen

It also went pretty well for awhile for Pete Wilson’s Republicans in California. Anti-immigration, anti-tax, etc. They held power long enough to pass rules that required a supermajority to overturn.

But the backlash was fearsome to behold; today, the congressional delegation of 53 seats has 7 Republicans. The State Assembly has 61 Democrats and 18 Republicans; State Senate is 29 Democrats and 11 Republicans. In the 2016 presidential race, Hillary got 61.7% of the vote.

Suck on that, Nixon and Reagan.

The California GOP has been basically eviscerated.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:49:09am

re: #372 marcusgorillius

You mean the leopard should be showing off his human trophies? /half

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:51:26am

re: #371 sagehen

It also went pretty well for awhile for Pete Wilson’s Republicans in California. Anti-immigration, anti-tax, etc. They held power long enough to pass rules that required a supermajority to overturn.

But the backlash was fearsome to behold; today, the congressional delegation of 53 seats has 7 Republicans. The State Assembly has 61 Democrats and 18 Republicans; State Senate is 29 Democrats and 11 Republicans. In the 2016 presidential race, Hillary got 61.7% of the vote.

Suck on that, Nixon and Reagan.

And that is Pete Wilson’s crowning achievement! Killing the GOP in California!

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:51:38am

re: #374 PhillyPretzel

You mean the leopard should be showing off his human trophies? /half

Just imagine if they had guns and could shoot back… /

Those pudgy bastards wouldn’t stand a chance against a leopard.

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:51:53am

re: #335 Anymouse 🌹

GOP Senate candidate: ‘Homosexual activities’ ruined great TV shows like ‘I love Lucy’ (Deadstate, more at the link):

Why would we want morally uplifting? We can watch the antics of such people as Donald Trump, Roy Moore, or Franklin Graham, and do the opposite.

did any “homosexual activities” and “wife swap shows” that currently dominate entertainment television” push ‘Gunsmoke’ or ‘Bonanza’ or ‘The Virginian’ or ‘I Love Lucy’ or ‘Andy Griffith’ off the air?

nope. didn’t think so

gunsmoke went off the air 1975
bonanza 1973
the virginian 1971
i love lucy 1957!!
andy griffith show, 1968

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:53:33am

re: #335 Anymouse 🌹

GOP Senate candidate: ‘Homosexual activities’ ruined great TV shows like ‘I love Lucy’ (Deadstate, more at the link):

I hate to break it to that guy but Ricky and Fred weren’t getting it on…

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:56:17am

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

Brian Kilmeade: “I believe calling the president a racist is personally offensive.”

doesnt mean it’s not true

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:57:09am

re: #377 DangerMan

Wait til this fucknut learns that Desilu produced Star Trek, which often commented on racism, the rise of fascism, and included one of the most famous interracial scenes of all time.

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sagehen  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:57:21am

re: #357 Anymouse 🌹

Is The Bastille in use lately? /s

Jet-powered flyboard steals the show at Bastille Day celebrations

So much for the wall…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:58:55am

re: #378 Joe Bacon 🌹

Ralph and Ed Norton’s lodge met at the Stonewall Inn. Not many people know that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:59:00am

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wingnuts and religious hacks have long claimed Teh Geyh would lead to bestiality.

They throw that word out there because it is morally repugnant. The idea is propaganda to attach in the mind that word with whomever is targeted with it.

All states now have some sort of statute under which it can be prosecuted.

Interestingly, there is no federal law under which that is a crime, except in the UCMJ.

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 8:59:10am

re: #361 Anymouse 🌹

NPR’s vice president for newsroom training and diversity argues that journalists should not be using the term “racist” to describe Trump’s tweets. “Leave the moral labeling to the people affected,” Keith Woods says

can we use other nouns that are equally true and also a moral label?

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:00:13am

re: #198 Anymouse 🌹

I’m back. Twitter shows up on my computer the same way it always did.

And you know they can go lower. The limbo bar is now somewhere in the Earth’s mantle.

You can do a lot with Tuna Helper if you have the Penzey’s spice rack from Hell. (My wife is an addict of them ever since Wonkette profiled the company.)

My wife bought some of their spice online a couple weeks ago. I haven’t tried their grilling mix of spices she got me yet. Maybe when the rain stops.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:01:35am

From the “what could possibly go wrong” files…….

The Trump administration plans to divert more than $40 million in humanitarian aid meant for Central America to instead support the U.S. backed opposition in Venezuela, according to a document obtained Tuesday by The Los Angeles Times. The $41.9 million had been designated for Guatemala and Honduras, two Central American countries at the center of the United States’ immigration influx. Instead, the money will be used for salaries, travel, communications equipment, technical assistance, and other needs for the Venezuelan opposition, according to a congressional notification from the U.S. Agency for International Development. The July 11 memo comes after the State Department announced in June that it would slash hundreds of millions of dollars of aid to El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras after Trump said the three countries were not doing enough to stem migration.

thedailybeast.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:02:04am

re: #379 DangerMan

Brian Kilmeade: “I believe calling the president a racist is personally offensive.”

Why is it personally offensive to you, Mr. Kilmeade? As far as I’m aware no one called you a racist.

Or is it that racists have to stick up for each other, since your employer certainly is.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:04:09am

re: #384 DangerMan

can we use other nouns that are equally true and also a moral label?

“Bigot” will also work as a general term.

His comments and actions are objectively racist, however.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:07:01am

“Mark Sanford, SC Republican, former US Rep, considers presidential run against Trump “

Campaign Trail, Appalachian Trail - whatever! Gonna wind up more like Oregon Trail - his candidacy will die of dysentery.

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:07:47am

re: #376 lawhawk

Just imagine if they had guns and could shoot back… /

Those pudgy bastards wouldn’t stand a chance against a leopard.

AND that they were clued into the fact that a game (ahem) was going on

it’s easy when
- only your side is armed
- only your side knows you’re playing

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:08:40am

re: #389 BlueSpotinAL

“Mark Sanford, SC Republican, former US Rep, considers presidential run against Trump “

Campaign Trail, Appalachian Trail - whatever! Gonna wind up more like Oregon Trail - his candidacy will die of dysentery.

As long as he doesn’t drop near my house. I don’t want him stinking up the town.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:09:57am

A fascinating, somewhat longish, article on how firefighters saved Notre Dame Cathedral from complete destruction.

nytimes.com

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:12:52am

re: #378 Joe Bacon 🌹

I hate to break it to that guy but Ricky and Fred weren’t getting it on…

eddie murphy aint so sure
def nsfw

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:15:31am

Just say ‘racist’ (Columbia Journalism Review)

Yesterday, the president of the United States “fanned the flames of a racial fire.” According to a panoply of major news outlets, Trump “starkly injected” “racially infused” and “racially charged” words into a morning tweetstorm; the language he used was “widely established as a racist trope” and “usually considered an ugly racist taunt.” The remarks were “called racist and xenophobic”; “denounced as racist”; an “example of ‘racism’” (note the quote marks).

What had Trump said to necessitate such pained lexical contortion? He’d told a group of left-wing Democratic Congresswomen to “go back” to “the totally broken and crime infested places they came from.” Of the lawmakers Trump appeared to be targeting, all bar one—Ilhan Omar—were born in America. Irrespective of that context, Trump’s attack wasn’t racially charged; it was just racist, by any useful definition of the term. Why didn’t our media say so?

The article goes on to list a huge number of outlets and the euphemisms they used instead of “racist.”

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:16:24am

re: #388 Anymouse 🌹

“Bigot” will also work as a general term.

His comments and actions are objectively racist, however.

all those sycophantic R’s are working feverishly pushing back so they can argue it’s just ‘opinion’ not objective

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:18:43am

re: #389 BlueSpotinAL

“Mark Sanford, SC Republican, former US Rep, considers presidential run against Trump “

Campaign Trail, Appalachian Trail - whatever! Gonna wind up more like Oregon Trail - his candidacy will die of dysentery.

again from electoral-vote.com this am (my first daily stop)

Sanford, on the other hand, is a fire-breathing True Believer; a candidate who was beloved by the Tea Party until he was caught hiking the Applachian trail—in Argentina—with a woman not his wife. If he criticizes the President—say, for being racist—it will be harder for conservatives to dismiss.

Further, the more “name” candidates that enter the GOP primary race, the likelier it is that the RNC has to organize primary debates, and that states like South Carolina can’t cancel their primaries…

The biggest real threat to Trump, however, is that Justin Amash decides to run for president on the Libertarian ticket. That could siphon off just enough votes to hand the Democrat all the swing states in the Midwest.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:20:18am

re: #361 Anymouse 🌹

In a way I agree with the NPR … let’s be specific. “Racist” is not specific and is more of label of morality.

Specifically, these people are White Supremacists. The President is a White Supremacist. Fox News is a White Supremacist infotainment center. The Republican Party is a White Supremacist party. Congress is full of White Supremacists and the Senate is currently led by a White Supremacist.

Is this specific enough?

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wrenchwench  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:21:39am

re: #395 DangerMan

all those sycophantic R’s are working feverishly pushing back so they can argue it’s just ‘opinion’ not objective

I vote for bigot. I won’t vote for a bigot, but adopting the general term makes it applicable across the board, and grants a little tiny win for the racists, who will then be stuck with BIGOT.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:23:35am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:24:54am

re: #399 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Cracks in the armor.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:25:24am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:27:34am

re: #401 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Fiscal conservatives.//

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:28:54am

re: #401 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

It’s the first time we’ve got an annual deficit due entirely to the TCJA and not the result of the economy. All the deficit hawk GOPers are sitting on their hands - silent over the massive deficit being rung up to give millionaires like Trump bigger tax cuts.

But for the TCJA, the deficit would not be growing at this pace. The economy isn’t growing fast enough (another proof that the trickle down supply side voodoo economics is a lie that GOPers tell to get more tax cuts, and to screw those least able to endure the burdens - like service cuts, gutting the safety net, etc.).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:29:15am

re: #401 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

And how much of that $1 Trillion has ended up at Trump properties over the last two and a half years?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:33:27am

re: #404 Eclectic Cyborg

And how much of that $1 Trillion has ended up at Trump properties over the last two and a half years?

Trump finally pulled it off.

His greatest con. The scam of the century.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:34:42am

National Federation of the Blind calls for a boycott of Goodwill stores, after Illinois’s Goodwill decided to extend their goodwill to their disabled employees by not paying them any more.

mdjonline.com (Marietta, Ga. Daily Journal)

They held an informational protest at a Goodwill store in Georgia. Georgia’s Goodwill insists it pays everyone minimum wage.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:36:37am

Midday must read

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:38:21am

re: #402 HappyWarrior

Fiscal conservatives.//

…who are currently operating under “extraordinary measures” and will technically exhaust our ability to spend this fall unless Congress lifts the debt ceiling.

Trump (white supremacist) and his cohorts in the Republican Party (white supremacists) have record budget deficits on their hands and this fact somehow is quickly pushed out of the news cycle in favor of news arguing whether water is wet, or is Trump a racist.

The charade ends this fall as the debt ceiling is hit hard.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:39:04am

re: #406 Anymouse 🌹

Minimum wage.

The regular minimum wage doesn’t apply to certain classes of people. That includes those with disabilities.

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:40:19am

re: #399 Backwoods_Sleuth

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i get his argument though i think there’s an error here

The original challenge was simple enough. The Supreme Court upheld the ACA’s “individual mandate” — the penalty for not buying health insurance — on the basis of Congress’ power to tax. When Congress eliminated that penalty by reducing it to zero, it could no longer be a tax. Without any other congressional power to support the individual mandate, that provision was unconstitutional.

- as i understand it they didnt eliminate the penalty (they should have)
- they did, as he said, reduced it to zero.

these are not the same thing.

argue all you want
- zero tax is a tax
- many people receive a net negative income tax due to refundable credits, ie the EITC. they get money from the government that they didnt pay in. (not a refund of their own withholding). they are still ‘taxpayers’ and entitled to all the rights and privileges just like those of us who actually pay out.

all the other arguments against still hold
severability
congressional intent as recent as the last few years, etc

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:41:04am

re: #401 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

White House projects $1 trillion deficit for 2019
When President Trump was a candidate, he vowed to wipe out the deficit.

(that was a lie)

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:41:54am

re: #403 lawhawk

It’s the first time we’ve got an annual deficit due entirely to the TCJA and not the result of the economy. All the deficit hawk GOPers are sitting on their hands - silent over the massive deficit being rung up to give millionaires like Trump bigger tax cuts.

But for the TCJA, the deficit would not be growing at this pace. The economy isn’t growing fast enough (another proof that the trickle down supply side voodoo economics is a lie that GOPers tell to get more tax cuts, and to screw those least able to endure the burdens - like service cuts, gutting the safety net, etc.).

hey if you’re gonna take a pass on out and out racism, a little fiscal irresponsibility is nothing

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wrenchwench  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:42:29am

re: #409 lawhawk

Minimum wage.

The regular minimum wage doesn’t apply to certain classes of people. That includes those with disabilities.

The word ‘subminimum’ should never appear next to the word ‘wages’.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:42:50am

re: #409 lawhawk

Minimum wage.

The regular minimum wage doesn’t apply to certain classes of people. That includes those with disabilities.

Needs to be changed.

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:43:10am

re: #404 Eclectic Cyborg

And how much of that $1 Trillion has ended up at Trump properties over the last two and a half years?

a great campaign slogan

“none of your tax dollars will find their way into any of my businesses”

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Citizen K  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:43:36am

re: #361 Anymouse 🌹

And just to add:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:44:32am

re: #413 wrenchwench

The word ‘subminimum’ should never appear next to the word ‘wages’.

Employers always ask on forms whether you have a disability. I answer yes because I feel my Aspergers left unexplained could hinder me as a candidate but if I do answer, I could get cheated out too.

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:48:57am

re: #416 Citizen K

We call people things based on their actions all the time. People who do crimes are ‘criminals’. People who espouse Christianity are ‘Christians’. People who are angry frequently are called ‘angry’/’temperamental’. Why can’t people who frequently take racist actions be ‘racist’?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:51:44am

re: #409 lawhawk

Minimum wage.

The regular minimum wage doesn’t apply to certain classes of people. That includes those with disabilities.

I am aware of that. The idea is that certain disabled people who can’t work as quickly or productively are paid less (essentially piece work).

In practice such organisations can apply it to all disabled people.

Goodwill in Illinois is trying to claim they are not workers at all, so they don’t have to pay them. They are offering them the opportunity to volunteer or something.

There is no good in Goodwill. The corporation is grifty as hell, and is about as much a not-for-profit as the NRA is.

The Salvation Army (militant Methodists) are just as bad, with added Hate Teh Geyh and atheists.

(When the Salvation Army was providing hot meals in Liberty, Missouri when our area was hit by a destructive tornado, they were told to skip the place I was living in by my neighbours because atheism.)

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wrenchwench  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:51:51am

re: #417 HappyWarrior

Employers always ask on forms whether you have a disability. I answer yes because I feel my Aspergers left unexplained could hinder me as a candidate but if I do answer, I could get cheated out too.

They’re prohibited by law from asking a job applicant’s age (with exceptions for minors), as I understand it, so they cannot discriminate on that basis. Hmmmm…..

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:51:57am

Here’s something interesting. I found both my grandfathers’ WW1 draft registration certificates, which had a citizenship question on them. My father’s father, a non-citizen immigrant from Russia, listed his race as “White” but my mother’s father, a U.S. born citizen, listed his race as “American”

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:52:01am

re: #416 Citizen K

EEOC identifies someone as engaging in racist and discriminatory conduct:

Ethnic slurs and other verbal or physical conduct because of nationality are illegal if they are severe or pervasive and create an intimidating, hostile or offensive working environment, interfere with work performance, or negatively affect job opportunities. Examples of potentially unlawful conduct include insults, taunting, or ethnic epithets, such as making fun of a person’s foreign accent or comments like, “Go back to where you came from, ” whether made by supervisors or by co-workers.

And yeah, it’s illegal per the CFR and Title 42 of the USC.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:55:33am

re: #409 lawhawk

From that act:

Also included are individuals whose earning or productive capacities are impaired by a physical or mental disability, including those related to age or injury, for the work to be performed.

In theory, I could be paid sub-minimum wage because of epilepsy. (In practice employers discriminate against those with epilepsy though they would never admit that: You’re not the right fit for the job, we hired someone more qualified, we decided to pull the job opening, &c).

It also allows age discrimination.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 17, 2019 • 9:59:05am

In which “Mass For Shut Ins” wins The Internet

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 10:00:36am

re: #424 The Pie Overlord!

In which “Mass For Shut Ins” wins The Internet

LOL!

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2019 • 10:00:54am

re: #424 The Pie Overlord!

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sagehen  Jul 17, 2019 • 10:02:32am

re: #421 The Pie Overlord!

Here’s something interesting. I found both my grandfathers’ WW1 draft registration certificates, which had a citizenship question on them. My father’s father, a non-citizen immigrant from Russia, listed his race as “White” but my mother’s father, a U.S. born citizen, listed his race as “American”

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When I was registering my dog for obedience class, mixed breeds of indeterminate parentage were called All-American.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 10:07:39am

re: #426 lawhawk

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LadyBehir  Jul 17, 2019 • 10:11:00am

I have heard “Clinton was on the Lolita Express 22 times - it’s in the log book” and I’ve also heard that it is been called a fake document. Can’t find any debunking for real. Is it in the log book or not? Anyone have a source? I’ve tried looking but don’t know where to begin.

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Belafon  Jul 17, 2019 • 10:11:47am

re: #332 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Our guts have been saying that since 2016…

And phase 1, taking back the House, is complete. It’s up to voters to take step 2.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2019 • 10:15:39am

re: #429 LadyBehir

There were apparently a series of flights (4 (as indicted by Clinton spokesperson) or 6) in total, and the 22 times account for various legs of those flights.

Gawker, before it got bankrupted, released the flight manifests indicating who were on those flights.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 17, 2019 • 10:16:13am

re: #416 Citizen K

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People who fuck goats…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 10:19:31am

re: #429 LadyBehir

I have heard “Clinton was on the Lolita Express 22 times - it’s in the log book” and I’ve also heard that it is been called a fake document. Can’t find any debunking for real. Is it in the log book or not? Anyone have a source? I’ve tried looking but don’t know where to begin.

The document circulated by wingnuts is not any sort of aircraft logbook. Those require specific entries.

And an aircraft logbook is an actual book.

And there is no wingnut on the planet that would be able to get a page of Epstein’s pilot’s logbook.

They make the claim, they provide the evidence (that the page is truly a logbook page).

That which is asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence.

Bill Clinton traveling on the plane would also require the Secret Service. In all these years it’s quite amazing if this really happened, no Secret Service agent has come forward ever to testify to it and provide evidence. If one did, he’d be the toast of Wingnutia.

Conservatism is a religion. Like all religions, they will lie to support their assertions (Martin Luther even recommended it).

The absence of evidence is evidence of absence.

That said, if something did come out (not bullshyte wingnut claims), then send Bill Clinton to trial.

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lawhawk  Jul 17, 2019 • 10:20:36am

Faceapp… what a wonderful data mining tool that gives a Russian company access to your visage, your photos, and camera.

Yeah, I’m sure your data and privacy will be in good hands.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 17, 2019 • 10:27:10am

re: #408 Rocky-in-Connecticut

The charade ends this fall as the debt ceiling is hit hard.

Then the government shutdown will be the Democrats’ fault for refusing to raise it…

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 17, 2019 • 10:28:06am

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Where re all those tea-baggers now?

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 10:28:18am

re: #435 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Then the government shutdown will be the Democrats’ fault for refusing to raise it…

im gonna go with ‘we didnt vote for the tax cut’

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 10:28:19am

Party of racists, part 3,432,664,998;

439
Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2019 • 10:29:24am

Actual video of Donnie groping women and partying with a pedophile and the only retort from the Nazis: BILL CLINTON!!

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sagehen  Jul 17, 2019 • 10:29:34am

re: #429 LadyBehir

I have heard “Clinton was on the Lolita Express 22 times - it’s in the log book” and I’ve also heard that it is been called a fake document. Can’t find any debunking for real. Is it in the log book or not? Anyone have a source? I’ve tried looking but don’t know where to begin.

If it was really in the logbook, that logbook would have been published by now.

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LadyBehir  Jul 17, 2019 • 10:30:33am

Thank you all. This gives me the ammo I need.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 17, 2019 • 10:31:19am

The younger brother of the Manchester Arena bomber (the bombing at the Ariana Grande concert in May of 2017) is set to appear in a British court as a co-conspirator in the attack and he will be charged with 22 counts of murder (the victims of the attack).

bbc.co.uk

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DangerMan  Jul 17, 2019 • 10:32:00am

re: #438 Anymouse 🌹

Party of racists, part 3,432,664,998;

Unbelievable — Mark Sanford lets it out that he’s thinking about primary-ing President Trump and goes on MSNBC and first question is whether he would have voted to condemn Trump’s racism.

“Uh…I don’t know. I’d have to look at it.”

this wont work for him

see my 396 above

to catch on, he has to condemn trump
he has to distance himself
and he can make a credible case for it (more or less)

otherwise he’s not an alternative

444
Anymouse 🌹  Jul 17, 2019 • 10:33:49am

re: #430 Belafon

And phase 1, taking back the House, is complete. It’s up to voters to take step 2.

Not a chance in my district for the House. I’d really like to see Ben Sasse ousted from the Senate though.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 17, 2019 • 10:41:44am

re: #366 Anymouse 🌹

“Racist” is not a “moral label.” It is a description of behaviour.

I let NPR have it in a letter last year when they had a spokesperson on to discuss immigration problems from FAIR, without identifying what FAIR was beyond its name.

If you get caught fucking a goat, you get called a goat fucker. It’s not a label, it is a description of what you are.

446
Old Liberal  Jul 17, 2019 • 11:18:50am

re: #363 Joe Bacon 🌹

NPR =

Nothing but
Propaganda for
Republicans

They sold their soul for sponsorship money about 20 years ago. Last time I donated= 20 some years ago

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Old Liberal  Jul 17, 2019 • 11:21:02am

re: #370 Dr Lizardo

Marrying other species?

O_o

Wait, lemme guess…….he considers non-whites to be a different species of human. Hell, he probably doesn’t even consider them to be human at all.

*spit*

Funny how racists always have problems with inarticulate expressions

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jul 17, 2019 • 2:12:30pm

re: #446 Old Liberal

They sold their soul for sponsorship money about 20 years ago. Last time I donated= 20 some years ago

I just moments ago heard The NPR host on All Things Considered mention the president’s “racist statements” several times. You don’t really have to knee jerk dump on NPR for everything.


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