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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:04:48am

Left hanging on the last thread:

re: #271 Teddy’s Person

Someone active on Twitter should tweet the video of John McCain pushing back against the woman claiming Obama was something (don’t quite rememeber exactly what racist talking point she threw out). Not that it was in any way effective, but it’s John McCain. We all know how Trump feels about the late Senator McCain.

Youtube Video

(video, 5:44)
Video of the woman and McCain’s response. She also sent gave out claiming former President Obama was an Arab and a Muslim after.

She was interviewed after the late Senator chastened her in public (in the same clip). She also sent four hundred letters saying “all sorts of bad things about him” and after being told “he’s a Christian” she responded “he’s still got Muslim in him.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:05:42am

CLed
re: #304 Patricia Kayden

Lots of White people. I don’t know if Black people were obtuse to Reagan’s racism. When he died, I don’t recall seeing many Blacks lining up to view his body in the capitol despite D.C. having a substantial Black population.

I think a lot of white people even opponents saw him as a kindly grandfather type. I don’t agree with that. I see Reagan as a Proto-Trump.

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retired cynic  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:08:17am

This is the tweet from Adam Klasfeld that really made me sit up:

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:08:33am

From the last thread:

re: #323 A Mom Anon

There are tons of “liberal hunting permit” stickers around here now. Even on farm equipment. They started showing up during the Trump campaign.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:09:58am

re: #4 Anymouse 🌹

From the last thread:

There are tons of “liberal hunting permit” stickers around here now. Even on farm equipment. They started showing up during the Trump campaign.

Wingers laugh at what happened in Argentina and Chile.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:10:09am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:11:14am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

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Bullshit Donnie. Bullshit.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:11:39am

re: #5 HappyWarrior

Wingers laugh at what happened in Argentina and Chile.

How’d that turn out for Pinochet and his supporters, and Peron and his?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:12:05am

The son of a bitch knows this is wrong but being worshipped is more important than what is rughtZ

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:12:19am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Like he stopped violent attacks at his rallies in 2016?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:13:40am

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

How’d that turn out for Pinochet and his supporters, and Peron and his?

You mean Videla? Pinochet had Margaret Thatcher advocating for him and the Processo had many members die as free men. I’d get more into it but my work break is almost over.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:13:44am

If the chants break out the band can just do a loud rendition of the Horst Wessel Lied.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:13:55am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:14:37am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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Shut up Mitt.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:15:40am

re: #12 Decatur Deb

If the chants break out the band can just do a loud rendition of the Horst Wessel Lied.

Or this.

Der Königgrätzer Marsch

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:16:43am

Liz Thinks Trump is a 4D Chess Master Using Acosta to Snare Epstein (goes to Utah Outcasts, X is on a road trip for work so he’s recording solo from a motel room, caution for adult language, 8:01)

Liz Thinks Trump is a 4D Chess Master Using Acosta to Snare Epstein

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BigPapa  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:17:25am

For Trump to admit anything means he/they know it’s horrible. Just like they flipped from ‘Russia? LOL!’ to ‘Russia? Who Cares? LOL!’ they’ll flip from ‘Not Racist’ to ‘Is loving your country racist?’ to ‘If hating people who hate America is racist, I’m racist.’

It’s happening.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:18:34am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:20:25am

re: #11 HappyWarrior

Sorry, mixed my dictators up. Videla in Argentina’s dirty war.

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KGxvi  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:22:43am

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹

Better to lose with dignity than win with filth.

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Interesting Times  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:24:23am
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William Lewis  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:24:41am

re: #5 HappyWarrior

Wingers laugh at what happened in Argentina and Chile.

I had a difficult time to keep from assaulting a man at Walmart I saw wearing a T-shirt saying Pinochet Helicopter Tours. Considering my parents were both university employees (janitor and librarian) and union members, they’d have been high on a murder list in Pinochet’s Chile.

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William Lewis  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:25:32am

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

How’d that turn out for Pinochet and his supporters, and Peron and his?

The right wing generals in Argentina after Peron were much worse.

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Old Liberal  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:25:38am

re: #20 KGxvi

Better to lose with dignity than win with filth.

Or as republicans say “win at any cost”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:26:23am

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹

Like he stopped violent attacks at his rallies in 2016?

Didn’t he offer to post bail for anyone who got arrested for roughing up people who were protesting him?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:26:24am

re: #1 Anymouse 🌹

Left hanging on the last thread:

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(video, 5:44)
Video of the woman and McCain’s response. She also sent gave out claiming former President Obama was an Arab and a Muslim after.

She was interviewed after the late Senator chastened her in public (in the same clip). She also sent four hundred letters saying “all sorts of bad things about him” and after being told “he’s a Christian” she responded “he’s still got Muslim in him.”

such a good Xtian…

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Belafon  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:27:10am

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹

Trump wouldn’t have beaten Obama.

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BigPapa  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:27:24am

Finally seeing some conservative pushback, if mealy mouthed, couched in reductionism, with a tinge of both sides. Not enough, but hey, it’s something. A few of them may have some semblance of morality left.

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gwangung  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:28:07am

re: #28 BigPapa

Finally seeing some conservative pushback, if mealy mouthed, couched in reductionism, with a tinge of both sides. Not enough, but hey, it’s something. A few of them may have some semblance of morality left.

Naw, it’s just zombie action….

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:29:18am

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹

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So any kind of scumbaggery is ok as long as you win (if you are on the correct side of course)? Ain’t that America

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William Lewis  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:29:24am

re: #28 BigPapa

Finally seeing some conservative pushback, if mealy mouthed, couched in reductionism, with a tinge of both sides. Not enough, but hey, it’s something. A few of them may have some semblance of morality left.

They know there will be war crimes/crimes against humanity trials eventually. They just want plausible deniability for when that happens even though they’re quite happy with the crimes themselves.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:30:06am
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MsJ  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:31:01am
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BigPapa  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:31:52am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Me too. But John Lewis gives me some juice back when I need it.

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MsJ  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:32:09am

So very sad.

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Belafon  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:32:35am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Now imagine being someone who has dealt with this for their entire life, and a group that has dealt with it for over 100 years.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:32:57am

re: #16 Anymouse 🌹

Liz Thinks Trump is a 4D Chess Master Using Acosta to Snare Epstein (goes to Utah Outcasts, X is on a road trip for work so he’s recording solo from a motel room, caution for adult language, 8:01)

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Mark Taylor continues to babble his insane rants, too!

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MsJ  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:34:56am
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:38:55am

Stranger Things 3 spoiler. This was such an amazingly good scene.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:41:11am

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

I agree with you. Joe Keery and Maya Hawke had great chemistry together.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:45:04am

Well the Twitter account Reagan Battalion goes all in on racism against Rep. Omar.

A person behind that account seems to be saying they’re Jewish, and they view Omar as the real racist here, not Trump.

That account for a long time put itself forward as a “principled conservative” looking for constructive dialogue.

This is, there has never been such a thing as “principled conservatives” at any time in the USA’s history.

I was expecting Reagan Battalion to lower the mask, I just didn’t think the poster would fight to die on the hill of conservatism over Trump’s racist tweets.

Meanwhile, Sen. Rubio pulls the “both sides” card over Trump’s racist rally:

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:45:48am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:47:00am

re: #38 MsJ

How convenient. If you take USCIS employees off their work (and I guarantee you this ain’t “a request to volunteer”), they can’t process legal immigration requests.

Fancy that. Trump doesn’t want legal immigrants. That works out pretty nicely.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:48:33am

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

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Teddy's Person  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:51:53am

re: #38 MsJ

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There’s nothing more Republican than asking people to work for free. The day the term “gig economy” was coined, the GOP had a collective orgasm. It makes it easier for corporations (and now the government) steal people’s labor.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:51:56am

Nice deflection from Reagan Battalion, not addressing the claim.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:55:24am
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Teddy's Person  Jul 18, 2019 • 11:59:36am

I need stuff like this to remind myself that there are still lots of good people out there.

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DangerMan  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:01:11pm

re: #14 HappyWarrior

Shut up Mitt.

nobody believes your bullshit

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:01:30pm

my shocked face…

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DangerMan  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:02:29pm

re: #21 Interesting Times

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THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT

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DangerMan  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:03:19pm

re: #28 BigPapa

Finally seeing some conservative pushback, if mealy mouthed, couched in reductionism, with a tinge of both sides. Not enough, but hey, it’s something. A few of them may have some semblance of morality thoughts of self preservation left.

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makeitstop  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:03:21pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

my shocked face…

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Isn’t there a term to describe that? ‘Pay to….something?’

I thought that was bad…

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DangerMan  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:06:23pm

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹

The tweet was wrong & the chant last night grotesque

The left wing politicians & many in the media demanding outrage are self righteous hypocrites

And the “outrage & response cycle” allows for only 2 sides & demands you pick or else

It’s a stupid game that I refuse to play

- it was wrong
- but since i found something i can pretend to hang on ‘the left wing’, i can look like i’m above all of it

(you’re not marco)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:06:37pm

re: #48 Teddy’s Person

I need stuff like this to remind myself that there are still lots of good people out there.

That’s what good people need to do instead of “not get involved”; shame the racists back into their holes.

There have always been racists. They always need to be shown their behaviour is unacceptable in a civilised society.

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DangerMan  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:10:25pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹

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israel is a country
it is run by people
those people change over time through elections (theoretically)

agreeing or disagreeing with the policies or politics of israel, the country, has nothing to do with judiasm the religion

and fwiw, no position on israel or any other country is a litmus test for being an american

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Teddy's Person  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:12:00pm

I wonder how Trumps first-rate hires include lying on their resumes.

Relavent Experience
* Two years heading up the Falsification Unit at Wolfram and Hart

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DangerMan  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:14:20pm

re: #57 Teddy’s Person

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I wonder how Trumps first-rate hires include lying on their resumes.

Relavent Experience
* Two years heading up the Falsification Unit at Wolfram and Hart
*Seen all your rallies on Fox
*Follow you on Twitter

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lawhawk  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:14:57pm

re: #56 DangerMan

israel is a country
it is run by people
those people change over time through elections (theoretically)

agreeing or disagreeing with the policies or politics of israel, the country has nothing to do with judiasm the religion

and fwiw, no position on israel or any other country is a litmus test for being an american

Longstanding joke in Israel - two Israelis arguing results in at least 3 positions. Arguing is a way of life in Israel - about everything. There’s very few things that all Israelis can agree on (one of them being that peace is preferable to the alternative) but how you get there is rancorously debated.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:15:01pm

Embattled Republican Rep. Duncan D. Hunter was issued a cease-and-desist letter from the Marine Corps for using its official emblem and slogan in a campaign mailer that targeted three Muslim officials. Source: WaPo

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Mike Lamb  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:15:30pm

re: #48 Teddy’s Person

I need stuff like this to remind myself that there are still lots of good people out there.

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My wife is half-Mexican, and fluent in Spanish. I know enough Spanish to get by. We taught our son (now 5.5 years old) Spanish, and it was his first language. We always try to speak in Spanish at basically any time he’s not in school. I know a day is coming where a jackass will lip off to us because of this.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:15:53pm

re: #57 Teddy’s Person

I wonder how Trumps first-rate hires include lying on their resumes.

Relavent Experience
* Two years heading up the Falsification Unit at Wolfram and Hart

Does he have demons working for him? /s

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Teddy's Person  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:16:58pm

re: #62 Anymouse 🌹

Does he have demons working for him? /s

😈

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:17:35pm

LOL

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gwangung  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:17:52pm

re: #61 Mike Lamb

My wife is half-Mexican, and fluent in Spanish. I know enough Spanish to get by. We taught our son (now 5.5 years old) Spanish, and it was his first language. We always try to speak in Spanish at basically any time he’s not in school. I know a day is coming where a jackass will lip off to us because of this.

Tell ‘em this is America, where we believe in free speech…and that means we can say whatever we want, however we want and in what language we want.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:18:20pm

re: #57 Teddy’s Person

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I wonder how Trumps first-rate hires include lying on their resumes.

Relavent Experience
* Two years heading up the Falsification Unit at Wolfram and Hart

Really wish my alma mater would revoke Parscale’s diploma.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:20:39pm

I love the Squad.

In a chaotic moment outside the Capitol, Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) — trailed by a mob of cameramen and reporters — stopped in the middle of Independence Avenue, shut down two lanes of traffic and gave an impromptu news conference responding to Trump supporters who chanted at President Trump’s rally Wednesday that she should leave the country.

“I am not [scared for my safety]. What I’m scared for is the safety for people who share my identity,” Omar told a gaggle of journalists on Thursday.

“This is not about me. This is about fighting for what this country should be and what it deserves to be.” Souce: The Hill

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:22:01pm

re: #61 Mike Lamb

My wife is half-Mexican, and fluent in Spanish. I know enough Spanish to get by. We taught our son (now 5.5 years old) Spanish, and it was his first language. We always try to speak in Spanish at basically any time he’s not in school. I know a day is coming where a jackass will lip off to us because of this.

My wife and I don’t have any children (my son is from my previous marriage).

I speak and read Andalucian Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese and can read French and technical German, and my wife speaks Colorado’s native Spanish (the accent is quite different), Polish, and enough German to get by as a tourist.

We’ve been known to switch to Spanish in public, or when speaking to someone who’s native language is Spanish in a store or restaurant.

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lawhawk  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:22:17pm

Prosecutors are worried that the judge might toss the case?! This whole affair reeks.

The case relates to Flynn’s business partners.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:22:27pm

re: #61 Mike Lamb

My wife is half-Mexican, and fluent in Spanish. I know enough Spanish to get by. We taught our son (now 5.5 years old) Spanish, and it was his first language. We always try to speak in Spanish at basically any time he’s not in school. I know a day is coming where a jackass will lip off to us because of this.

When I was a kid delivering papers in Ambridge PA I’d hear people speaking Greek, Italian, Polish, Serbo-Croatian, Russian, Dutch, German, Chinese, Yiddish, French and Danish.

Nobody fussed about what language they spoke…

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lawhawk  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:25:39pm
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Teddy's Person  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:26:56pm

Big Brother Alert.

Trackers from tech companies like Google and Facebook are logging your most personal browsing details, according to a forthcoming New Media & Society paper, which scanned 22,484 pornography websites. Where that data ultimately goes is not always clear. Source: NYT

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:27:22pm

Well guys. Not even a month into my new job, me and the other temps got laid off. This is what happens when you have a President that cares more about scapegoating immigrants than the environment

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Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:28:11pm
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Belafon  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:28:13pm

re: #71 lawhawk

I want to hear it from the Navy.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:28:54pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Well guys. Not even a month into my new job, me and the other temps got laid off. This is what happens when you have a President that cares more about scapegoating immigrants than the environment

Sucks. Wish I had wise words.

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Kilroy was here  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:29:32pm

EPA allows continued use of pesticide linked with brain damage
thehill.com

Trump must be spraying this stuff around his rallies.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:30:34pm

Search and rescue operation underway for US sailor reported missing in the Arabian Sea (Stars & Stripes, in the last hour or so)

WASHINGTON — Several Navy ships are searching for a missing sailor in the Arabian Sea after a “man overboard” was reported Wednesday by the USS Abraham Lincoln, according to a U.S. Navy 5th Fleet statement.

The USS Abraham Lincoln, the USS Leyte Gulf, the Spanish Méndez Núñez frigate, and the Pakistan Navy Ship PSN Aslat are conducting the search and rescue operations to find the sailor, according the statement.

The 5th Fleet statement did not name the sailor, citing U.S. Navy policy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:31:10pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

[[hw]]

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Kilroy was here  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:32:02pm

re: #78 Anymouse 🌹

Search and rescue operation underway for US sailor reported missing in the Arabian Sea (Stars & Stripes, in the last hour or so)

That is a hell of a fall from carrier deck.. Hope they find him/her.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:32:08pm

What infuriates me is we were exceeding expectations on this project. 50 people maybe more just like that unemployed.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:32:29pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Sorry, Happy. Hoping everything will work out.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:32:49pm

re: #75 Belafon

I want to hear it from the Navy.

Nothing on the official Navy press release site about it.

navy.mil

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:34:00pm

re: #82 Joe Bacon 🌹

Sorry, Happy. Hoping everything will work out.

I am sure it will. I just feel pissed because I was enjoying it and I’ve always had trouble with employment long term because of my Aspergers.

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lawhawk  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:35:17pm

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹

I’m curious how exactly you’re going to talk to the drone, which doesn’t have a human operator. You’re going to go and call on the Guard channel? Anyone know how this would work?

I get that there are strict rules of engagement to protect our ships - and that craft that get within a specific perimeter are deemed hostiles and can be shot down/attacked. What separates a drone doing recon and a drone on an attack run…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:35:53pm

re: #77 Kilroy was here

EPA allows continued use of pesticide linked with brain damage
thehill.com

Trump must be spraying this stuff around his rallies.

Next: The return of leaded gasoline.

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mmmirele  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:36:23pm

But these aren’t the right kind of religious people in Trumpworld.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:37:31pm

re: #87 mmmirele

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But these aren’t the right kind of religious people in Trumpworld.

After being let go today, I feel like joining them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:38:44pm

re: #85 lawhawk

I’m curious how exactly you’re going to talk to the drone, which doesn’t have a human operator. You’re going to go and call on the Guard channel? Anyone know how this would work?

I get that there are strict rules of engagement to protect our ships - and that craft that get within a specific perimeter are deemed hostiles and can be shot down/attacked. What separates a drone doing recon and a drone on an attack run…

The Straits are controlled by Bandar Abbas airbase/airport. Any concerns about aircraft are routinely radioed in by any vessel to them, including ours.

If there was a drone aircraft trying to overfly the Boxer, depending on how fast it was closing they could call it in to the base or take action.

This presumes Trump didn’t make this up.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:39:54pm

Around 80F outside, thunderstorm with heavy rain, and a flash flood watch here to the west of Pretzel Land right now.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:40:21pm

I wish the media would cover Trump’s gaslighting and racism as well as how the GOP are literally selling out our country to the highest bidder. I know, I know. Those who own the media are the same people trying to buy America.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:42:33pm

I was minding my own business, decided to check the US Dollar. Boom, down a half percent in a short time, looked around and found that Trump was running his mouth about the Iranian drone being shot down. Are we now going to get a response in the Iranian media from the Iranian president that he was going to attack the US, and then decided not to?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:45:12pm
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Teddy's Person  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:45:57pm

Favreau’s dog (as seen in his avatar) looks like a younger Teddy!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:46:23pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:47:34pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Well guys. Not even a month into my new job, me and the other temps got laid off. This is what happens when you have a President that cares more about scapegoating immigrants than the environment

Oh, man, sorry to hear. This sucks. Hope a new position comes up soon.

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DangerMan  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:48:44pm

re: #61 Mike Lamb

My wife is half-Mexican, and fluent in Spanish. I know enough Spanish to get by. We taught our son (now 5.5 years old) Spanish, and it was his first language. We always try to speak in Spanish at basically any time he’s not in school. I know a day is coming where a jackass will lip off to us because of this.

8 years middle school, high school and college spanish and in my younger unmarried days i would have said i knew just enough to get in trouble

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Chrysicat  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:49:23pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:49:50pm

re: #94 Teddy’s Person

Favreau’s dog (as seen in his avatar) looks like a younger Teddy!!

And 58% say the tweets were #392 on the list of offensive and disgustingly anti-American things he has said since the start of his presidency.

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lawhawk  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:50:15pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

Same event Parscale claims held 20,000. The venue holds only ~8,000.

One article from heavy.com tried to get into the crowd size and found that several hundred were turned away because the venue was full.

That’s a huge gap between hundreds and 12,000 missing folks.

I rate Parscale as a flaming POS liar.

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KGxvi  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:50:52pm

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹

Well the Twitter account Reagan Battalion goes all in on racism against Rep. Omar.

A person behind that account seems to be saying they’re Jewish, and they view Omar as the real racist here, not Trump.

That account for a long time put itself forward as a “principled conservative” looking for constructive dialogue.

This is, there has never been such a thing as “principled conservatives” at any time in the USA’s history.

I was expecting Reagan Battalion to lower the mask, I just didn’t think the poster would fight to die on the hill of conservatism over Trump’s racist tweets.

Meanwhile, Sen. Rubio pulls the “both sides” card over Trump’s racist rally:

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It’s only a matter of time before someone tells Marco to go back to where he came from. My fellow Cuban Americans who support Trump’s stupidity are in for a shock when the MAGA brigade turns on them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:51:19pm

Nothing on Al-Jazeera.

Al Aribya repeats the Associated Press release.

The USA has been demanding a tanker seized by Iran be immediately released. That tanker is alleged by Iran to be pirated petroleum. He’s threatened to take military action (thanks, John Bolton) if the MT Riah (a Panamanian-flagged vessel) is not released.

Iran claims the vessel was trying to smuggle oil which was stolen to foreign vessels. The Riah was seized in Iranian waters.

There was some confusion about who owns the vessel. It was claimed by some to be owned by a firm in Gibraltar, but the United Kingdom said it did not know of any such vessel in its colony.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:53:09pm

So, Trump is scrambling to disavow the “send her back” chants from last night Nuremberg Rally. Did he ever do this with the “lock her up” chants when they started during the campaign or did decades of Clinton Derangement Syndrome make that particularly nugget seem reasonable?

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gocart mozart  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:53:11pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:54:31pm

re: #100 lawhawk

Same event Parscale claims held 20,000. The venue holds only ~8,000.

One article from heavy.com tried to get into the crowd size and found that several hundred were turned away because the venue was full.

That’s a huge gap between hundreds and 12,000 missing folks.

I rate Parscale as a flaming POS liar.

Wingnuts are already claiming Libtards don’t know there’s an outside to venues!!1!uno!!eleventy£!!

We’ve heard that one before. No one ever seems to have pictures of these enraptured Trump supporters with their glowing faces aimed at the venue filling a parking lot hanging on his every word from loudspeakers or monitors.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:56:26pm

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

Wingnuts are already claiming Libtards don’t know there’s an outside to venues!!1!uno!!eleventy£!!

We’ve heard that one before. No one ever seems to have pictures of these enraptured Trump supporters with their glowing faces aimed at the venue filling a parking lot hanging on his every word from loudspeakers or monitors.

To be honest, all of his rallies have way too many people attending them for my comfort level.

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plansbandc  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:56:31pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was offered use of a laptop from a person I just met (in person) from a particular fandom. Said person presented themselves as a country bumpkin, very naive and innocent. Laptop had some impressive porn on it. Never quite believed anything they said from then on.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:57:24pm

re: #103 Teddy’s Person

So, Trump is scrambling to disavow the “send her back” chants from last night Nuremberg Rally. Did he ever do this with the “lock her up” chants when they started during the campaign or did decades of Clinton Derangement Syndrome make that particularly nugget seem reasonable?

Not sure why he’s supposedly “disavowing” the chants, unless he wants to fool the media.

Oh that’s why.

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DangerMan  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:58:19pm

re: #98 Chrysicat

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- zionism, the idea
- judiasm, the religion
- israel, the country/state and its government

three separate things

these people are one dimensional thinkers

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lawhawk  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:58:32pm

re: #106 Sir John Barron

To be honest, all of his rallies have way too many people attending them for my comfort level.

This is the correct answer.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:58:59pm

re: #94 Teddy’s Person

Favreau’s dog (as seen in his avatar) looks like a younger Teddy!!

At the end of the day, the crazy 27% will pull the lever for R-Saddam Hussein, even if they believe the tweets were wildly racist.

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DangerMan  Jul 18, 2019 • 12:59:24pm

re: #101 KGxvi

It’s only a matter of time before someone tells Marco to go back to where he came from. My fellow Cuban Americans who support Trump’s stupidity are in for a shock when the MAGA brigade turns on them.

cuba or florida?
cause i can tell florida don’t want him

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:00:50pm
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DangerMan  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:01:03pm

re: #106 Sir John Barron

To be honest, all of his rallies have way too many people attending them for my comfort level.

like those palm beach ladies on CNN this AM, it’s the same 8000 at every rally //

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:01:07pm

re: #104 gocart mozart

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Charles Johnson  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:08:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:10:15pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:13:47pm

My Republicypher representative Adrian Smith weighs in on the arson attack in Kyoto.

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Skip Intro  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:13:54pm

re: #94 Teddy’s Person

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Favreau’s dog (as seen in his avatar) looks like a younger Teddy!!

Favreau is assuming that offensive, un-American, and racist are bad things to Republicans. I wouldn’t assume that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:18:15pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

Matt Gaetz, the guy who came out publicly against investigating Jeffery Epstein in February.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:22:26pm

Donald Trump issues a proclamation declaring the US Flag shall be placed at half-mast on the day of interment of retired Associate Justice John Paul Stevens.

whitehouse.gov

The Supreme Court says Associate Justice Stevens will lie in repose in the Great Hall of the Supreme Court on July 22. The public is invited to attend.

He will be laid to rest on July 23 at Arlington National Cemetery.

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KGxvi  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:23:37pm

re: #119 Skip Intro

Favreau is assuming that offensive, un-American, and racist are bad things to Republicans. I wouldn’t assume that.

Trump is going to get 40% of the vote in 2020, because that really is the low water mark in modern presidential elections in a two person race. The Democratic nominee is going to get 40% as well. The question will be the other 20%. Some will be moderate swing voters, some will be new voters, some will be people who sat out the last election (or two). The goal is to win an overwhelming majority of them. And Trump is doing what he can to lose them… that’s the important thing.

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lawhawk  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:26:00pm

re: #122 KGxvi

Trump is going to get 40% of the vote in 2020, because that really is the low water mark in modern presidential elections in a two person race. The Democratic nominee is going to get 40% as well. The question will be the other 20%. Some will be moderate swing voters, some will be new voters, some will be people who sat out the last election (or two). The goal is to win an overwhelming majority of them. And Trump is doing what he can to lose them… that’s the important thing.

You’d have to go further into a state by state accounting, since the national polls wont address the distribution to get you to 270.

Overall, the popular vote will likely go for the Democrats again. But how that jibes with the EC is the mystery.

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DangerMan  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:27:15pm

oh dear for them

“A reelection campaign dominated by incendiary chants of ‘send her back’ is a worst-case scenario for President Trump, warn senior Republicans who are moving swiftly to douse a political prairie fire sparked by the commander-in-chief’s use of the mantra to attack some Democrats in Congress,” the Washington Examiner reports.

“The rhetoric reeks of xenophobia and threatens Trump with key voters in critical 2020 battlegrounds.”

“Most Republicans in Congress did not publicly denounce the president… But these same Republicans were so alarmed by the ‘send her back’ chants… they made a special plea to Vice President Mike Pence to stop it from happening again.”

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lawhawk  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:30:05pm

re: #124 DangerMan

But the cowardly craven GOPers wouldn’t go on the record saying that it was racist, xenophobic, and denounced Trump outright. Nope. That would not do.

They had to plead with Pence to implore Trump not to pull this publicly racist stuff again, and stick to the racist policy that they could “defend” on national security rhetoric grounds.

Bulkshit. All of it.

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DangerMan  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:30:14pm

Cucinelli Bores His Way into Trump’s Inner Circle

Politico: “The outspoken immigration hard-liner enjoys a direct pipeline to Trump…”

“The newly formed relationship is so tight that Cuccinelli’s boss, acting Homeland Security Secretary Kevin McAleenan, was not even aware of the meetings with Trump, one of the people said. It’s an extraordinary position of power for an official with little relevant policy experience and whose job is to run an agency responsible for processing immigration paperwork and vetting asylum applicants, not border enforcement.”

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gocart mozart  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:30:23pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:31:24pm

re: #124 DangerMan

“Most Republicans in Congress did not publicly denounce the president… But these same Republicans were so alarmed by the ‘send her back’ chants… they made a special plea to Vice President Mike Pence to stop it from happening again.”

Mother will never let the VP intervene - after all, why is it that the VP calls his wife “Mother”….

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steve_davis  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:32:52pm

re: #5 HappyWarrior

Wingers laugh at what happened in Argentina and Chile.

yeah, well, let’s see how hard they laugh when they discover just how much violence left-wing paramilitary groups can organize when necessity calls for it.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:33:13pm
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DangerMan  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:33:23pm

re: #128 Eric The Fruit Bat

Mother will never let the VP intervene - after all, why is it that the VP calls his wife “Mother”….

sometimes i just serve up the pitch and leave it hanging

you got it in one

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TedStriker  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:34:16pm

re: #128 Eric The Fruit Bat

Mother will never let the VP intervene - after all, why is it that the VP calls his wife “Mother”….

If Pence calls his wife “Mother”, does that mean that Pence himself is a “Mother-fucker”?

/really low-hanging fruit…

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KGxvi  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:34:26pm

re: #123 lawhawk

You’d have to go further into a state by state accounting, since the national polls wont address the distribution to get you to 270.

Overall, the popular vote will likely go for the Democrats again. But how that jibes with the EC is the mystery.

Fair point.

I’m basing it off of past results. The closer the winner gets to 60%, the much more likely the EC will be a blow out. The split is more likely when the popular vote difference is within about 2-3% percentage points nationally (at least based on previous elections).

Maybe that sort of analysis doesn’t work anymore, but I suspect it might hold and that 2000 and 2016 will remain outliers.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:39:30pm

re: #131 DangerMan

sometimes i just serve up the pitch and leave it hanging

you got it in one

Never serve this Fruit Bat with a easy lob…too bad it won’t hit hit its intended target….

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Dave In Austin  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:40:11pm

re: #132 TedStriker

Lowest quat on the tree…….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:40:29pm

re: #124 DangerMan

oh dear for them

I’m getting a real Frankenstein’s Monster vibe from that.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:42:48pm

re: #124 DangerMan

“The rhetoric reeks of xenophobia and threatens Trump with key voters in critical 2020 battlegrounds.”

“Most Republicans in Congress did not publicly denounce the president… But these same Republicans were so alarmed by the ‘send her back’ chants… they made a special plea to Vice President Mike Pence to stop it from happening again.”

Trump made his bed - he (and the GOP) have to lie in it.

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DangerMan  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:43:37pm

re: #130 Dave In Austin

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from the article: “Trump isn’t an anti-Semite and his support for Israel ought to cut him some slack.”

again conflating hatred of jewish people and ‘support’ for israel the state

and the fact that you declare he’s not an anti-semite doesnt cut it much
though and why should his support for the state/country cut him any slack?
and why would he need some slack cut his way?

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steve_davis  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:44:25pm

re: #53 makeitstop

Isn’t there a term to describe that? ‘Pay to….something?’

I thought that was bad…

people went to prison for it in the 50’s over spinning records, for crying out loud. you’d think democracy itself might be considered as important.

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A Cranky One  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:45:09pm

re: #61 Mike Lamb

My wife is half-Mexican, and fluent in Spanish. I know enough Spanish to get by. We taught our son (now 5.5 years old) Spanish, and it was his first language. We always try to speak in Spanish at basically any time he’s not in school. I know a day is coming where a jackass will lip off to us because of this.

Years ago, my ex and I were out for lunch and had agreed to only use sign language to communicate (she was a speech therapist and we were taking classes).

A couple sitting a few tables away started making extremely rude and bigoted comments about us, obviously thinking we were deaf. I confess that we practiced a lot of swear signs as we listened but didn’t react as they continued.

On the way out, we passed by their table. My ex loudly commented that they were assholes. I agreed and included that they were bigots as well.

The look on their faces as they realized we’d heard them was priceless, as were the chuckles from other patrons who’d heard everything.

There have always been assholes and bigots. And they need to be shamed.

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DangerMan  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:45:20pm

re: #132 TedStriker

If Pence calls his wife “Mother”, does that mean that Pence himself is a “Mother-fucker”?

/really low-hanging fruit…

Oedipus Pence

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Belafon  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:45:23pm

re: #124 DangerMan

oh dear for them

And they have it more right than those who worry about Democrats. If Democrats can nearly sweep the Iowa seats in 2018 when Trump was screaming “Illegal horde of dangerous migrants”, then its the Republican problem he keeps up with it. Yes, the Democrats might have won because of a different message, but one of the problems Republicans did have was that Trump drowned out their message.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:46:40pm

Thanks everyone. I just blew off steam with now former coworkers

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DangerMan  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:47:10pm

re: #136 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m getting a real Frankenstein’s Monster vibe from that.

in the backrooms:

“look, we’ll support whatever he does, but cant you get him to shut up publicly?

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KGxvi  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:47:32pm

re: #137 Eric The Fruit Bat

Trump made his bed - he (and the GOP) have to lie in it.

Fun facts, five states that Trump won in 2016 were so close that the difference between Trump and Clinton was less than the vote totals for Johnson and Stein:

Arizona - 3.54% difference between Trump and Clinton; 5.46% to Johnson and Stein
Florida - 1.2% spread, 2.88% to Johnson and Stein
Michigan - .23% difference, 4.66%
Wisconsin - .77% difference, 4.62%
Pennsylvania - .72% spread, 3.19%

Florida and Arizona have populations that aren’t likely to take well to Trump’s blatant racism; that should help turn out. And hopefully the ground game in the other three states can generate better turnout than 2016.

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KGxvi  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:49:29pm

re: #142 Belafon

And they have it more right than those who worry about Democrats. If Democrats can nearly sweep the Iowa seats in 2018 when Trump was screaming “Illegal horde of dangerous migrants”, then its the Republican problem he keeps up with it. Yes, the Democrats might have won because of a different message, but one of the problems Republicans did have was that Trump drowned out their message.

In a presidential election cycle the nominee’s message is the party’s message. Midterms can be a bit more complicated.

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Belafon  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:50:53pm

re: #146 KGxvi

In a presidential election cycle the nominee’s message is the party’s message. Midterms can be a bit more complicated.

Unless the midterms are about the president.

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steve_davis  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:53:05pm

LOL! Just had the Surface Book 2 show up. I literally have no idea how to turn this thing on!

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steve_davis  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:54:33pm

oh, it’s on the top! the power is on the top! not off to a great start here as an old man trying to pretend I can do more than send an email on a computer.

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KGxvi  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:55:32pm

re: #147 Belafon

Unless the midterms are about the president.

The midterms are always, in part, about the president. Especially in the first term. It’s a matter of how much the president inserts themselves. In 2010, Republicans picked up 6 seats in the Senate and 63 in the House… and a lot of that was about Obama and his policies.

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Mescalero09  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:56:08pm

I do not know if this has been posted but “NEW” improved Twitter is now being rolled out and if you despise it as much as me, well, you are not alone.
So if you are on that platform and your band starts playing different songs, there may be a fix. At least for now,

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Kilroy was here  Jul 18, 2019 • 1:56:12pm

re: #149 steve_davis

oh, it’s on the top! the power is on the top! not off to a great start here as an old man trying to pretend I can do more than send an email on a computer.

Hey I built laptops and I can’t the damn hidden power switches on some of them. They hide them for “style” reasons.

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DangerMan  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:00:10pm

re: #152 Kilroy was here

Hey I built laptops and I can’t the damn hidden power switches on some of them. They hide them for “style” reasons.

one day they’ll be keyless like new cars are
as if a fob isnt a key (its in your pocket, you still gotta carry it, it’s just wireless)
then they’ll evolve and put a keypad on it so you can drop the fob and enter a code to get it open instead

yup 4 or more button pushes instead of the original one

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:00:17pm

re: #138 DangerMan

from the article: “Trump isn’t an anti-Semite and his support for Israel ought to cut him some slack.”

again conflating hatred of jewish people and ‘support’ for israel the state

and the fact that you declare he’s not an anti-semite doesnt cut it much
though and why should his support for the state/country cut him any slack?
and why would he need some slack cut his way?

I despise the Saudi government. That doesn’t mean I despise Saudi citizens.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:01:36pm

re: #150 KGxvi

The midterms are always, in part, about the president. Especially in the first term. It’s a matter of how much the president inserts themselves. In 2010, Republicans picked up 6 seats in the Senate and 63 in the House… and a lot of that was about Obama and his policies and their racism.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:01:37pm

re: #4 Anymouse 🌹
We also had a lot of those Calvin and Hobbes stickers where Calvin was peeing on a Donkey, get it? Oh isn’t it funny? I’m sorry to see that hunting license sticker has made a comeback. Fuckers.

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DangerMan  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:02:40pm

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹

I despise the Saudi government. That doesn’t mean i despise Saudi citizens.

you are not a one dimensional, black/white thinker
but then i redundant myself

arent you up late, er early, for you?

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plansbandc  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:06:34pm

re: #156 A Mom Anon

Every time I see a “regular” Calvin peeing sticker on truck (it’s always on a truck) I know that’s a person I don’t ever want to meet.

It only figures they came out with a Calvin peeing on a donkey. Vile.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:06:40pm

re: #156 A Mom Anon

We also had a lot of those Calvin and Hobbes stickers where Calvin was peeing on a Donkey, get it? Oh isn’t it funny? I’m sorry to see that hunting license sticker has made a comeback. Fuckers.

Well, not much I can do about it.

The Democrats made impressive local gains here in the last election (‘cept me, dammit). We flipped two school boards (my village is divided between two different school districts), blew out the Republican mayor of Bayard with over 80% of the vote, an independent took the mayor of the county seat out (the new mayor is an independent, no Dem ran for that office), took the state board of university regents, put a couple people on the public power district board.

We’re getting there, but it takes time.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:09:09pm

re: #157 DangerMan

you are not a one dimensional, black/white thinker
but then i redundant myself

arent you up late, er early, for you?

Yes I’m up way past bedtime for me.

Later today I need to install window air conditioner number three, after returning number two to the store yesterday because the fan seized one minute after I started it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:11:19pm

re: #156 A Mom Anon

We also had a lot of those Calvin and Hobbes stickers where Calvin was peeing on a Donkey, get it? Oh isn’t it funny? I’m sorry to see that hunting license sticker has made a comeback. Fuckers.

Who makes those? Does the artist of the cartoon license them? If not, he oughta sue to protect his copyright.

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KGxvi  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:12:45pm

re: #158 plansbandc

Every time I see a “regular” Calvin peeing sticker on truck (it’s always on a truck) I know that’s a person I don’t ever want to meet.

It only figures they came out with a Calvin peeing on a donkey. Vile.

Usually on trucks, but I see them on the occasional hot-hatchback type vehicles around here. A whole variety of things Calvin is peeing on. I think you can actually buy the Calvin sticker separate and thus have him pee on whatever you want.

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Belafon  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:12:48pm

re: #161 Anymouse 🌹

Who makes those? Does the artist of the cartoon license them? If not, he oughta sue to protect his copyright.

No, he doesn’t, and he doesn’t like them. There’s very little licensed C&H merchandise. But he’s kind of waited too long so there’s not much he can do about it.

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KGxvi  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:16:06pm

re: #163 Belafon

No, he doesn’t, and he doesn’t like them. There’s very little licensed C&H merchandise. But he’s kind of waited too long so there’s not much he can do about it.

Plus, they’re usually made by small graphics places - guys who have kiosks at the mall. So it’s hard to track them down. Even then, there’s an argument that it could be fair use

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:25:05pm

re: #145 KGxvi

Our governor in Morning Consult’s state polling approval ratings is currently +54/-34/12 don’t know.

Donald Trump is at +1 here. (He won by +23.)

Sen. Ben Sasse sunk to +50/-30/20 don’t know. (He won with nearly 60%) With independents he’s up +17.

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DangerMan  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:27:32pm

oh dear for mitch

A new Morning Consult poll finds Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) is America’s most unpopular senator with voters in his state, with Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) coming in as a close runner-up.

By contrast, the poll shows Sen. Angus King (I-ME) and Bernie Sanders (I-VT) leading the list of most popular senators with an overall 62% job approval rating.

note, this is by their own constituents - ie state by state

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DangerMan  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:28:12pm

re: #165 Anymouse 🌹
re: #166 DangerMan

ok, that was just play creepy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:29:54pm

Gov Bevin is going after the teachers and other state retireees again:

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Belafon  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:32:36pm

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gov Bevin is going after the teachers and other state retireees again:

The legislature can show up, gavel in, and go home.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:34:02pm

re: #169 Belafon

The legislature can show up, gavel in, and go home.

given we’re under an excessive heat warning until Saturday night, I can’t imagine that anyone is happy about having to drive to Frankfort for this bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:34:15pm

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gov Bevin is going after the teachers and other state retireees again:

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I’m sure he’ll be a front runner to replace Trump. Trumpers love assholes like this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:35:00pm

gauntlet thrown down (and it’s pathetic)

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:35:03pm

How do we know that Trump lied when he said he “didn’t like” the SEND HER BACK chants, other than everything that comes out of his face hole is a lie?

Here he is enjoying the chants for 15 seconds.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:36:00pm

re: #173 The Pie Overlord!

How do we know that Trump lied when he said he “didn’t like” the SEND HER BACK chants, other than everything that comes out of his face hole is a lie?

Here he is enjoying the chants for 15 seconds.

[Embedded content]

he was literally feeding on it

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KGxvi  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:38:29pm

re: #166 DangerMan

Net approval ratings for a few Republicans up in 2020:

McConnell -14%
Collins -3%
Murkowski +1%
Tills -2%
Gardner EVEN
McSally +3%

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:39:01pm

re: #175 KGxvi

I would be so happy to see Mcconnell go down in flames.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:39:29pm

it’s raw story, so I have no idea what it’s about but I find the headline amusing

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:40:19pm
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KGxvi  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:41:40pm

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

I would be so happy to see Mcconnell go down in flames.

In February McConnell was leading Generic Democrat 45-42 w/12% undecided. I think McGrath could do pretty well in a general against him. But Trump is +15% in Kentucky, so it’ll be a tricky angle to take.

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Cheechako  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:42:28pm

re: #175 KGxvi

Net approval ratings for a few Republicans up in 2020:

McConnell -14%
Collins -3%
Murkowski +1%
Tills -2%
Gardner EVEN
McSally +3%

Murkowski is not up for re-election in 2020. It’s Carpet Bagger Dan Sullivan. I think he could be beat with the right candidate.

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KGxvi  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:44:12pm

re: #180 Cheechako

Murkowski is not up for re-election in 2020. It’s Carpet Bagger Dan Sullivan. I think he could be bet with the right candidate.

My bad, looked too quickly at the wikipedia page. Sullivan is +15% according to morning consult (44/29/27), vulnerable but probably only in a landslide presidential election.

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sagehen  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:46:32pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

it’s raw story, so I have no idea what it’s about but I find the headline amusing

[Embedded content]

Here’s some of what it’s about:

In the op-ed, Dershowitz accuses New Yorker editor David Remnick of commissioning “a hit piece against me for the explicit purpose of silencing my defense of President Trump, Prime Minister Netanyahu, and the State of Israel.”

Remnick of course doesn’t select “hit pieces” based on who the hit person supports politically — his was the magazine that opened the Harvey Weinstein floodgates.

Here’s the paragraph that justifies the adjective “panicky”

Dershowitz’s op-ed concludes by warning his supporters to not believe anything written about him whenever the story is finally published.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:48:30pm

Trump’s racist screed against Omar was scripted and came off the teleprompter: CNN’s Camerota (Raw Story)

Appearing on CNN’s “New Day,” New York Times White House correspondent Maggie Haberman said that Americans can expect more bashing of non-white lawmakers like Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) from now to election day in 2020 because Donald Trump’s campaign is going to be all about race.

Responding to the president’s rally in North Carolina that even CNN’s chyron referred to as “ugly,” the journalist said Trump’s campaign has flipped from touting the economy to one that is race-based — and it is all because of Trump’s racist tweets from last Sunday.

(more at the link)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:53:56pm

snerk

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:55:22pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:55:39pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 18, 2019 • 2:56:25pm

re: #151 Mescalero09

I do not know if this has been posted but “NEW” improved Twitter is now being rolled out and if you despise it as much as me, well, you are not alone.
So if you are on that platform and your band starts playing different songs, there may be a fix. At least for now,

Thank you for this post. I got switched over this morning and I fucking hate it. Now back to the old style.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:01:07pm

re: #178 The Pie Overlord!

WHO THE HELL IS SUPPORTING KILLING BABIES AFTER THEY’RE BORN?!?!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:01:43pm

re: #178 The Pie Overlord!

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Cheechako  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:02:25pm

re: #181 KGxvi

My bad, looked too quickly at the wikipedia page. Sullivan is +15% according to morning consult (44/29/27), vulnerable but probably only in a landslide presidential election.

Both Murkowski and Sullivan have deep ties with trump so anything could happen.

Right now politics in Alaska is in melt-down mode. Governor Dunleavy’s (R) line item vetos of over $400 million in spending is going to devastate the State. About half the University’s funding was removed along with big cuts to healthcare and senior assistance was removed.

The Legislature has been a 2 ring circus with half meeting in Wasilla and the other half meeting in Juneau. If they can ever get their act together some of the vetos may get over-ridden.

The budget for the State ferries is so bad that many land-locked communities will go 6 weeks without service. We’re not going to be enjoying semi-fresh vegetables or dairy products this winter.

Wife and I are wondering if we will be able to get our motor-home and truck on a ferry so we can be snow-birds this year. Plus, how much the cost will increase.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:02:28pm
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plansbandc  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:02:47pm

re: #161 Anymouse 🌹

Bill Watterson has been steadfast in his refusal to license any Calvin and Hobbes merch. He allegedly wasn’t all that fired up to do books of his comics.

So if you see anything C & H, it’s most definitely unauthorized.

This is part of the reason I loathe those stickers. The most important to me though, as a big fan of the strip, is that the meanness of the pissing Calvin is the antithesis of what the strip was about. There’s an inherent playfulness and innocence about C & W. Calvin is very smart and naughty, but he’s never mean.

Did I mention how much I hate those stickers? Because I really do.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:03:34pm

re: #192 plansbandc

I don’t like them either.

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sagehen  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:05:44pm

re: #186 Anymouse 🌹

[Embedded content]

So Hope Hicks didn’t commit perjury because the questions when she testified before Congress were all “were you ever present for such & such conversation” and she said no. Today’s released materials says IT WAS ALL ON THE PHONE, so she was sorta being truthful when said she wasn’t present.

Depends what the meaning of “is” is.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:06:10pm

Glenn Greenwald on Twitter for his afternoon dragging.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:08:49pm

re: #175 KGxvi

Net approval ratings for a few Republicans up in 2020:

McConnell -14%
Collins -3%
Murkowski +1%
Tills -2%
Gardner EVEN
McSally +3%

Gardner at even is very disappointing. That dude doesn’t represent his constituents for shit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:09:01pm

Some interesting details here re: Calvin and Hobbes merch (via Wikipedia):

Later, when Calvin was accepted by Universal Syndicate, and began to grow in popularity, Watterson found himself at odds with the syndicate, which urged him to begin merchandising the characters and touring the country to promote the first collections of comic strips. Watterson refused. To him, the integrity of the strip and its artist would be undermined by commercialization, which he saw as a major negative influence in the world of cartoon art and he came to believe that licensing his character would only violate the spirit of his work. He gave an example of this in discussing his opposition to a Hobbes plush toy: that if the essence of Hobbes’ nature in the strip is that it remain unresolved whether he is a real tiger or a stuffed toy, then creating a real stuffed toy would only destroy the magic. However, having initially signed away control over merchandising in his initial contract with the syndicate, Watterson would commence a lengthy and emotionally draining battle with Universal to gain control over his work. Ultimately Universal did not approve any products against Watterson’s wishes, understanding that unlike other comic strips, it would be near impossible to separate the creator from the strip if Watterson chose to walk away.

One estimate places the value of licensing revenue forgone by Watterson at $300-$400 million. Almost no legitimate Calvin and Hobbes merchandise exists. Exceptions produced during the strip’s original run include two 16-month calendars (1988-89 and 1989-90), a t-shirt for the Smithsonian Exhibit, Great American Comics: 100 Years of Cartoon Art (1990) and the textbook Teaching with Calvin and Hobbes, which has been described as “perhaps the most difficult piece of official Calvin and Hobbes memorabilia to find.” In 2010, Watterson did allow his characters to be included in a series of United States Postal Service stamps honoring five classic American comics. Licensed prints of Calvin and Hobbes can also be purchased through Uclick, the digital division of Andrews McMeel Universal, and have also been included in various academic works.

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sagehen  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:11:02pm

re: #188 Eclectic Cyborg

WHO THE HELL IS SUPPORTING KILLING BABIES AFTER THEY’RE BORN?!?!

Border Patrol.

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William Lewis  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:14:44pm

re: #188 Eclectic Cyborg

WHO THE HELL IS SUPPORTING KILLING BABIES AFTER THEY’RE BORN?!?!

The Republicans - voting against health care, food, education, and everything else children need to survive. Like everything, it’s all projection on their part.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:15:04pm

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

gauntlet thrown down (and it’s pathetic)

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Rand’s a piece of shit who owes his career to misplaced Obama hatred and his stupid father.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:18:08pm

They’re taking hostages.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:19:54pm

re: #201 DodgerFan1988

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They’re taking hostages.

Repeal CPS now.

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Old Liberal  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:20:10pm

re: #198 sagehen

Border Patrol.

My daughter just completed a high risk pregnancy sort of. Sort of because she only completed 6 months and doctors forced the early birth. Which had the fetus died in transit could have been termed an abortion? Fetus could have also gone septic as amniotic sack ruptured on its own threatening the lives of both. But my daughter would have been prohibited from an abortion until the fetus was stone cold dead?. Would a Caesarean section to remove dying fetus qualify as a birth or abortion? Were the doctors worried about being charged with crimes during this? Is my daughter going bankrupt from medical expenses due to 3 month premature delivery? No, because they all live in Europe. Fuck these evil Americans.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:22:25pm

re: #198 sagehen

Border Patrol.

Well…you nailed that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:23:22pm

(DS is Assistant Inspector General Diana Shaw)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:24:37pm

(video, 0:25)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:24:42pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have to seriously shudder at that Dumpster photo…it looks tooooo familiar…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:26:25pm

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have to seriously shudder at that Dumpster photo…it looks tooooo familiar…

Nacht und Nebel, 1956
imdb.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:31:06pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:31:31pm

re: #201 DodgerFan1988

They’re taking hostages.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:32:09pm
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KGxvi  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:32:52pm

re: #196 Mike Lamb

Gardner at even is very disappointing. That dude doesn’t represent his constituents for shit.

He’s 37/37/26, if a quarter of people shrug their shoulders about you after having been in office for half a decade, you’re probably not good at the job.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:33:06pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:33:07pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

(DS is Assistant Inspector General Diana Shaw)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:35:18pm

re: #214 The Pie Overlord!

[Embedded content]

yes…that.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:36:11pm

re: #214 The Pie Overlord!

The purpose of Godwin’s Law was to preserve the rhetoric of warning until it was needed.

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The Ghost of Quesos Past  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:37:03pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

I find myself wondering if in the Twitter boardroom the discussion is about how a prime market for their messaging and “engagement” platforms is not companies, but ideological groups and governments.

In which case the bent enforcement, the continued presence of bots, and the ease of flow of “fake news” represent wins for the company. If people keep using the service even as they gripe, no value is lost. And…this is a bit of a stretch…the semblance of human engagement—even if its bots and farms while actual people quit—gives Twitter the illusion of authentic discourse that in turn impacts people not even on Twitter, because everyone’s braced to react to the newest thing-that-requires-commentary. If that sounds outlandish, look at how the right wing has generated outrages by amplifying something tiny…or outright fabricated…giving it the facade of importance.

I mean, it’s not even that anyone at Twitter has to be ideologically rightwing…capitalism’s basic end dictates creating services where the money is, and is perfectly happy to service undemocratic ends for a profit. That’s been part of mining and manufacturing for years…cheap labor in Communist countries, even cheaper human lives in kleptocratic dictatorships, nickel and diming workers to death even in developed nations…and now it’s digital. Just like everyone lining up to help authoritarian countries build censorship systems for the Internet, or better surveillance systems.

Add to this that society still embraces the idea of the rational-actor individual…so each person is freely participating in society to achieve best value for themselves…but tech companies and labs operate on a model of human behavior closer to behavioral economics—in which people are malleable, can be conditioned or groomed to give reactions that don’t make sense, and short-term reactive thinking tends to be nonrational—and stuff like Twitter looks like a social engineering methodology. It’s a fun platform to express yourself with, but where the money’s at is its utility as basically a Skinner Box. Which is why Twitter and grifters dovetail so nicely.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:39:19pm

re: #216 Decatur Deb

The purpose of Godwin’s Law was to preserve the rhetoric of warning until it was needed.

it’s all freaking laid right out there for everyone to see what’s happening, and it’s just horrifying that few are even blinking.

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Skip Intro  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:39:43pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:40:55pm

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

it’s all freaking laid right out there for everyone to see what’s happening, and it’s just horrifying that few are even blinking.

The ghosts of 1944 can see it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:42:11pm

re: #217 The Ghost of Quesos Past

If people keep using the service even as they gripe, no value is lost.

I’ve been banging that gong for over a year now.

Twitter will do nothing a$ long a$ people continue to use lines like “I don’t like racists, but [fill in some reason why they use Twitter instead].”

Corporations only understand boycotts for bad behaviour.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 18, 2019 • 3:46:40pm

re: #221 Anymouse 🌹

I’ve been banging that gong for over a year now.

Twitter will do nothing a$ long a$ people continue to use lines like “I don’t like racists, but [fill in some reason why they use Twitter instead].”

Corporations only understand boycotts for bad behaviour.

well, if it weren’t for the evil twitter, I would never have known about CBP tossing asylum seeker belongings into the Dumpster.
Not would I have heard about the children being held hostage in Chicago.
Or many other incidents that never hit the big news cycle.

And there are the mental health breaks for happy news.

However, I understand that other people’s mileage varies when it comes to social media being all evil and there is no leeway otherwise.

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MsJ  Jul 18, 2019 • 4:24:58pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 18, 2019 • 4:37:15pm

re: #188 Eclectic Cyborg

WHO THE HELL IS SUPPORTING KILLING BABIES AFTER THEY’RE BORN?!?!

Steven Miller but only if they’re darker skinned…

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Belafon  Jul 18, 2019 • 4:58:35pm

re: #183 Anymouse 🌹

Trump’s racist screed against Omar was scripted and came off the teleprompter: CNN’s Camerota (Raw Story)

(more at the link)

The crap Trump has been spewing caused my mother to reflect on some of her beliefs. She still has a long way to go, but it is making people uncomfortable.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 18, 2019 • 4:58:47pm

re: #161 Anymouse 🌹

I haven’t seen one of those in awhile. Now it’s just lots of trump stickers with the occasional dump pelosi one or one about a democrat only wants to take your wallet once they get your vote or some such dipshittery


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