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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 20, 2019 • 7:55:19pm

current mood

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:01:02pm

50 years ago, exactly…

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BigPapa  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:07:33pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:14:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:15:35pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

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Exactly.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:16:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:18:29pm

re: #6 Patricia Kayden

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They really are organized like Nazi rallies.

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:28:20pm

Sometimes even Tony Hawk can get sick of being Tony Hawk.

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Sea Mexican  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:33:50pm

A short update on Puerto Rico:

In general, David Begnaud has done a marvelous job reporting the events in PR.

Protests are still going strong, with thousands going every day to the Fortaleza (Governor’s mansion). Big name artists (from Ricky Martin, and Bad Bunny, to Daddy Yankee, and Gilberto Santa Rosa) are making calls all over social media, on award shows (Premios Juventud), and even on their concerts for Rosselló to resign.

The impeachment process is right now on the ball of the legislative branch, which is controlled by Rossello’s party, the PNP (shameless plug to PR’s quick political primer). The House president, Johnny Mendez, commissioned a group of jurists to evaluate if the impeachment process can be started. The Puerto Rico Bar evaluated the chat and found possible criminal charges, but Mendez said he’s not going to use that evaluation.

To further complicate Rosselló’s life, an investigative report went over the chat and uncovered a web to pillage as much money as possible from most agencies. This scheme involves many of his inner circle, including many in the infamous Telegram chat. This will likely continue with more FBI investigations.

To add another nail in his coffin, a close friend of Rosselló’s father, and a mentor figure for the current governor talked deeply about Ricky Rosselló’s shady past. In summary, Ricky has lived a sheltered life, and his family has protected him from the consequences of his actions. He was given contracts with the only purpose of being a point of contact with his father, former governor and (at the moment of that contract) Senator Pedro Rosselló. In turn, he used this money to start a Silicon Valley company. Even back then, he was surrounded by many of his current inner circle.

And now many Democratic Presidential hopefuls are weighting in the situation. 7 have ask for Rosselló’s resignation so far, and likely many more will lend their voices.

I’ll finish with this video taken this afternoon, with the crowd singing the unofficial hymn of Puerto Rico, especially those that have left the Island:

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:42:22pm

re: #9 Sea Mexican

Thanks andres. Always valuable to have eyes and ears on the ground.

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Sea Mexican  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:45:46pm

re: #9 Sea Mexican

Just found this Twitter thread with some of the most imaginative ways the protest are delivering their message:

These three ladies deserve a special mention:

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retired cynic  Jul 20, 2019 • 8:47:39pm

re: #11 Sea Mexican

When the time comes, we need to be taking lessons.

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BigPapa  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:01:35pm

John Cook of Skeptical Science put out a quiz to help train against misinformation. I got 13/14.

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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:06:52pm

This made me smile

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:16:59pm

re: #13 BigPapa

John Cook of Skeptical Science put out a quiz to help train against misinformation. I got 13/14.

14/14, though if you asked me to come up with a red herring, I would have trouble.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:23:08pm

So yesterday, the guy who has been discussing dark matter with me as an attempt to prove that scientists don’t do science right (one of favorite topics is the idea of a scientist publishing a paper and going “Nobel please!’) told me yesterday that he went down to Marble Falls (located near Austin) and while he remembers it from his childhood has being barren, it’s now green and lush due to the high CO2. I told him later that he needs to watch out that he’s not confusing human engineering for what he thinks is happening.

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:35:13pm
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BigPapa  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:38:27pm

CO2 is plant fuud. Doh.

Tell duder that increased C02 may affect growth but it also affects nutrient levels and plant life cycles. They may get a little bigger or grow a little faster but may not have as much nutrients, so we’ll have to eat more.

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:42:29pm

The smartest folks I know who I follow on Twitter are women scientists.

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Targetpractice  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:43:51pm

It’s become impossible by this point to deny the reality, and the effort to “debunk” the science has become exponentially expensive due to the number of studies supporting the conclusions, so the only option left seems to be “CLIMATE CHANGE IS GOOD FOR THE PLANET!”

From the same crowd that thinks easing restrictions on the release of heavy metals and sulfur from coal plants is a net good because the power is “cheap.”

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2019 • 9:46:42pm

re: #20 Targetpractice

So fucking maddening. I saw that tweet you’re referring to. Cognitive dissonance is going to extremes. Conservatives are *denying* reality. It’s dangerous.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:20:39pm

re: #18 BigPapa

CO2 is plant fuud. Doh.

Tell duder that increased C02 may affect growth but it also affects nutrient levels and plant life cycles. They may get a little bigger or grow a little faster but may not have as much nutrients, so we’ll have to eat more.

I mentioned that one, and also the part about the dry line moving east. His interest in science derives in part from the urge to disprove climate change, so we’ll see what happens.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:21:00pm

re: #13 BigPapa

John Cook of Skeptical Science put out a quiz to help train against misinformation. I got 13/14.

Same here: 13/14 correct.

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2019 • 10:24:09pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:00:41pm

Completely forgot I had this in my image library here at LGF.

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Sea Mexican  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:09:32pm

re: #12 retired cynic

When the time comes, we need to be taking lessons.

I’m just happy people here are reacting. Most protests are usually not well attended.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:14:43pm

I love Gorilla Glue #4, but it can be so intense. I space out for 20 minutes at a time. Perfect strain for President Trump’s reign.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 20, 2019 • 11:17:38pm

My wife doesn’t see the humor in Letterkenny. She’s not Canadian, must be her.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 21, 2019 • 12:05:36am

re: #28 Dread Pirate

My wife doesn’t see the humor in Letterkenny. She’s not Canadian, must be her.

I miss the humor as well…but the fellows remind of people I know from the Midwest.

Whom I never found particularly funny.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 21, 2019 • 12:06:57am

re: #6 Patricia Kayden

Now the Nazis also claimed that the Kristallnacht was a spontaneous expression of national rage at Jews and was not orchestrated…

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 21, 2019 • 12:18:00am

I put aside the horror of Hey America, Let’s Try Fascism Again for a couple of hours this evening and tuned into this website:

apolloinrealtime.org

Press “Now” to jump to whatever Apollo 11 was doing at this moment. It’s a really great multimedia mash-up of video, flight control audio, pictures coming up as they were taken in real mission time, and notes & commentary. I feel like I should send somebody money after watching this.

I watched the whole EVA while the Moon rose in my bedroom window so I could turn from my screen and look up at the spot on the rabbit’s ears where it was happening exactly fifty years ago. This is the kind of thing that makes the internet worthwhile. :)

After the EVA ended, the flight control room audio had a recording of one of the controllers calling his wife/lady friend and having a personal conversation about what had just happened. I don’t know if the controller used a desk phone & forgot/didn’t care if it was recorded, or what, but it was kind of fun and surreal to hear a non-professional conversation about what had just happened.

Spaceflight is great, the Moon is great, Fuck Trump, God Save The Republic, Amen, now it’s bedtime.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 12:18:05am

It’s high speed chase night in the bay area. 4th high speed chase on the scanner tonight. 680 south of Sunol at 130 MPH, air is not available.Black Camaro with white racing stripes. I’ll lose the signal on the San Jose channel. It’s always interesting who will lose tire integrity first at these speeds.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 21, 2019 • 12:42:52am

The truest thing ever.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 12:43:10am

Have I posted this yet?

YouTube

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teleskiguy  Jul 21, 2019 • 12:46:30am

My favorite Nine Inch Nails song.

Copy of a

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 21, 2019 • 12:49:25am
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William Lewis  Jul 21, 2019 • 1:11:26am

re: #34 Dread Pirate

Good track, but i prefer this one:

New Age (Full Length Version) (2015 Remastered)

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 1:11:49am
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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 1:15:43am

re: #37 William Lewis

Good track, but i prefer this one:

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Video

The woman who played drums became a Trump supporter. :/

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William Lewis  Jul 21, 2019 • 1:19:38am

re: #39 Dread Pirate

The woman who played drums became a Trump supporter. :/

Ah, well. Can’t win em all. I recall one of the Ramones was a Reagan supporter and didn’t want to do Bonzo Goes to Bitburg.

Ramones - Bonzo Goes to Bitburg

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 1:21:33am

re: #37 William Lewis

Good track, but i prefer this one:

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Video

That is beautiful.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 21, 2019 • 1:21:40am

re: #40 William Lewis

Ah, well. Can’t win em all. I recall one of the Ramones was a Reagan supporter and didn’t want to do Bonzo Goes to Bitburg.

Tipper Gore once jammed with The Grateful Dead and then came out as an advocate of censoring rock music content.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 1:24:18am

re: #40 William Lewis

Ah, well. Can’t win em all. I recall one of the Ramones was a Reagan supporter and didn’t want to do Bonzo Goes to Bitburg.

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I grew up in California in the 60’s. I have always hated Reagan with passion. He was infinitely better than Trump.

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William Lewis  Jul 21, 2019 • 1:27:21am

re: #41 Dread Pirate

That is beautiful.

So much of Lou’s work was.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 21, 2019 • 1:27:31am

re: #43 Dread Pirate

I grew up in California in the 60’s. I have always hated Reagan with passion. He was infinitely better than Trump.

He had actual experience in government

But too many Americans were so fed up with politicians and politics as usual that they really thought that electing a total anti-politician with no record of experience in public service would help straighten things out

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 1:27:59am

Dammit, now I’m stressed. I’m a gonna load up another 75 mg of GG#4 and pour rum from the barrel.

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William Lewis  Jul 21, 2019 • 1:30:12am

re: #46 Dread Pirate

Dammit, now I’m stressed. I’m a gonna load up another 75 mg of GG#4 and pour rum from the barrel.

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I’m at work right now but there is beer and whiskey waiting at home.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 1:37:00am

re: #47 William Lewis

I’m at work right now but there is beer and whiskey waiting at home.

My oldest daughter drinks whiskey, I don’t know how she does it. Whiskey, scotch, bourbon all are instant heartburn for me. Mixed rum and beer are my forte, and I can drink gin and tonic. Speaking of which, I wonder how Klys is doing. I hope they are OK.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 1:50:01am

I have the original album, I haven’t heard this extended version before. I like it. :-D

YouTube

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 2:25:12am

Well shit, my weed budget is going to go through the roof with this much stress. Fuck you Trump, you fuck everything up. You dick.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 3:14:28am

As a wannabe windsurfer, don’t try it without a strong, healthy lower back. Sailboats rock for this very reason. Nothing says shiny side up like a 10,000 lb. keel.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 3:36:08am

re: #13 BigPapa

John Cook of Skeptical Science put out a quiz to help train against misinformation. I got 13/14.

[humblebrag]
I got 14/14.
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re: #15 Belafon

14/14, though if you asked me to come up with a red herring, I would have trouble.

Another term for “red herring” is “deflection.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 3:40:26am

re: #48 Dread Pirate

My oldest daughter drinks whiskey, I don’t know how she does it. Whiskey, scotch, bourbon all are instant heartburn for me. Mixed rum and beer are my forte, and I can drink gin and tonic. Speaking of which, I wonder how Klys is doing. I hope they are OK.

Well, you’re a pirate. Of course you’d be acclimated to rum. /s Had your daughter followed you in your chosen career, she’d be a rum drinker too. /s

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 3:42:58am

re: #50 Dread Pirate

Well shit, my weed budget is going to go through the roof with this much stress. Fuck you Trump, you fuck everything up. You dick.

I need a line item in my budget for “weed.” /s

The closest place for me is Sterling, Colorado. Bringing back across the state line makes that a federal felony. I’m not risking that.

Plus my understanding is weed shops in Colorado will only sell 1/8 ounce to someone from out-of-state. A stint in the federal pen for 1/8 ounce seems a bit too severe for me.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 3:43:08am

Has anyone heard how Wheatdog is doing? I forget who was in contact with his family. He and Anymouse keep the night traffic going. It’s a pretty fucking boring night if all you have is me. I had a really profound observation of aging about 20 minutes ago but I forgot what it was.

Music from a tree.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 3:55:03am

re: #53 Anymouse 🌹

Well, you’re a pirate. Of course you’d be acclimated to rum. /s Had your daughter followed you in your chosen career, she’d be a rum drinker too. /s

My youngest daughter was a Sea Scout, and she is fond of Mt Gay rum. She also likes weed, unlike her sister. She is truly her father’s daughter, and she is very much like her grandmother, (my mother) was, (tomboy and hard worker (unlike me)). Oh, and fuck if I got that that combination of parens and commas wrong. As they say in Letterkenny, “Figure it oot.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 4:03:54am

re: #55 Dread Pirate

Has anyone heard how Wheatdog is doing? I forget who was in contact with his family. He and Anymouse keep the night traffic going. It’s a pretty fucking boring night if all you have is me. I had a really profound observation of aging about 20 minutes ago but I forgot what it was.

Music from a tree.

I’ve been trying to search the sub-basements for the comment. It was posted he was in intensive care in Colorado near me, but I’m having trouble finding the comment. I’m going through article-by-article.

PROGRAMMING NOTE: using the global search function for LGF, it would be helpful if you could include logical operators. AND works like OR (Wheatdogg AND hospital gives comments about both, and each).

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 4:08:49am

re: #56 Dread Pirate

My youngest daughter was a Sea Scout, and she is fond of Mt Gay rum. She also likes weed, unlike her sister. She is truly her father’s daughter, and she is very much like her grandmother, (my mother) was, (tomboy and hard worker (unlike me)). Oh, and fuck if I got that that combination of parens and commas wrong. As they say in Letterkenny, “Figure it oot.”

See? It’s the association with the sea. There’s a reason there aren’t many rum distillers in South Dakota.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 4:21:50am

I give up. I know the comment is within the last month, but I can’t seem to find it.

Perhaps the person who posted Wheatdogg being in the hospital in Colorado now so his family could attend would be kind enough to post it again.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 4:23:28am

re: #40 William Lewis

Ah, well. Can’t win em all. I recall one of the Ramones was a Reagan supporter and didn’t want to do Bonzo Goes to Bitburg.

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It was Johnny.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 4:25:30am

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹

See? It’s the association with the sea. There’s a reason there aren’t many rum distillers in South Dakota.

Well, that and sugarcane doesn’t grow well in South Dakota weather.Which leads me to why living in the bay area is so good, the weather. At night the summer air temperature tries to equal that huge heat-sink called ‘The Pacific’ (Ocean), in winter the it keeps us from getting really cold. I can’t remember the last time it got below 20F, probably the late 70’s.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 4:32:13am

re: #50 Dread Pirate

The United Kingdom alleges a tanker it seized in the Straits of Gibraltar was to enforce EU rules against shipping oil to Syria.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 4:35:54am

re: #61 Dread Pirate

Well, that and sugarcane doesn’t grow well in South Dakota weather.Which leads me to why living in the bay area is so good, the weather. At night the summer air temperature tries to equal that huge heat-sink called ‘The Pacific’ (Ocean), in winter the it keeps us from getting really cold. I can’t remember the last time it got below 20F, probably the late 70’s.

We have a Nebraska distillery which produces rum.
drinkbrickway.com

I haven’t had the intestinal fortitude to try it, though it is available in my area.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 4:39:24am

re: #39 Dread Pirate

The woman who played drums became a Trump supporter. :/

Yeah Mo something. There was an article about how she was a Birther and Tea Party member some years back. Charlie Daniels is an interesting one. He was a Jimmy Carter guy who morphed into a huge winger.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 4:42:36am

re: #62 Anymouse 🌹

The United Kingdom alleges a tanker it seized in the Straits of Gibraltar was to enforce EU rules against shipping oil to Syria.

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They’re gonna get bitch-slapped hard, I don’t know if they deserve that. Who are we to say they can’t sell oil to our ‘enemy’. Who’s to say who is in the right in the middle east. They are all a bunch of dick wads and we’re right behind them. SMOD, you can not come too soon.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 4:47:07am

re: #65 Dread Pirate

They’re gonna get bitch-slapped hard, I don’t know if they deserve that. Who are we to say they can’t sell oil to our ‘enemy’. Who’s to say who is in the right in the middle east. They are all a bunch of dick wads and we’re right behind them. SMOD, you can not come too soon.

The Middle East reminds me of Europe in the early 20th century. Lots of nationalism and factionalism. And not a lot of interest in cooperation. I’m always hearing from Trump and his allies that nationalism is great. As a student of both World Wars, I couldn’t disagree more.

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joe90  Jul 21, 2019 • 4:54:06am

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹

This help?

gofundme.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:05:04am

re: #67 joe90

This help?

gofundme.com

That’s the GoFundMe page which was posted, but a search for that using the LGF search engine with the term “GoFundMe” or the same without majescule letters still doesn’t turn up the comment.

That’s it. That was what was posted to LGF.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:10:38am

Thomas Westbrook (Holy Koolaid at YouTube) put out a video calling out a pastor at the New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Church (Steven Anderson’s group). NIFB calls for using state power to execute LGBT+ individuals.

YouTube blocked Mr. Westbrook from posting more videos, citing a violation of it’s rules on hate speech.

I saw the video before it was taken down; there was no hate speech. The silencing of atheists continues at YouTube by mass-brigading false reports by Christians (and not just fundies, Christians of all denominations do it: They cannot defend their positions so they use YouTube’s flagging system to silence those who call them out.)

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A Mom Anon  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:10:44am

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹

Yeah but you can go to more than one dispensary in a day…

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jeffreyw  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:13:51am

Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:14:16am

re: #70 A Mom Anon

Yeah but you can go to more than one dispensary in a day…

Gotta strategize.

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Momkat56  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:16:46am

re: #2 teleskiguy

My father worked as a mechanical engineer on the Saturn V program that got humans to the moon. Just the other day he was saying that at 80 years old, he still remembers the moon landing like it was yesterday. He got me and my sisters up in the middle of the night to watch men walk on another world. Some things are so marvelous they stay with you until your dying day. I hope my grandchildren have that kind of moment with a Mars mission.

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joe90  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:19:32am

re: #68 Anymouse 🌹

Search for Darcy Dugan.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:19:56am

re: #70 A Mom Anon

Yeah but you can go to more than one dispensary in a day…

I’d still have to use it in Colorado, then wait long enough to drive home.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:22:26am

re: #70 A Mom Anon

Yeah but you can go to more than one dispensary in a day…

When my daughter and I were in Oregon for the eclipse we stopped in Bend for some shopping. I got a full oz and they knew I was from California. That is where I was introduced to Gorilla Glue (#5, but extremely similar).

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:23:26am

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹

I’d still have to use it in Colorado, then wait long enough to drive home.

Nah. You could always bring it back to Nebraska. If you’re worried about the smell bothering neighbors, edibles are a plus.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:25:36am

I did have that awkward moment being blazed talking with my personal physician who also lives in our neighborhood and whose son graduated with my youngest brother at the pool. But I’d rather be high than drunk.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:25:40am

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Nah. You could always bring it back to Nebraska. If you’re worried about the smell bothering neighbors, edibles are a plus.

…or dabbing concentrates or a vape cartridge system…

First rule of smuggling,” Don’t Panic!”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:28:32am

re: #79 Dread Pirate

…or dabbing concentrates or a vape cartridge system…

First rule of smuggling,” Don’t Panic!”

Oh yeah. I know people who vape all the time. I prefer edibles tbh but that works too. I would never risk bringing pot on a plane but I’ve definitely gone from DC to VA with stuff in my backpack.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:28:36am

re: #74 joe90

Search for Darcy Dugan.

Aha! See what happens when an edjumakated person uses a computer?

The comment behind the privacy bar.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:33:18am

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:38:40am

re: #82 A Mom Anon

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:38:53am

re: #82 A Mom Anon

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:41:08am

re: #84 Dread Pirate

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:43:04am

re: #82 Dread Pirate

My car also oozes ex-military (my ribbon bar as a bumper sticker, a lifetime membership VFW sticker, “veteran” emblazoned on my driver’s license, plus my Gold Star Family Plates).

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:44:21am

Lre: #84 Dread Pirate

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:45:41am

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹

My car also oozes ex-military (my ribbon bar as a bumper sticker, a lifetime membership VFW sticker, “veteran” emblazoned on my driver’s license, plus my Gold Star Family Plates).

I was going to ask. The fact you have your veteran status on your plates would lessen suspicion and harassment.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:49:09am

re: #87 HappyWarrior

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:49:18am

re: #88 HappyWarrior

I was going to ask. The fact you have your veteran status on your plates would lessen suspicion and harassment.

Well, it’s on my driver’s license, not my plates. My plates are Gold Star Family (though I am also eligible for either disabled veteran plates without a handicap symbol [we have both] or retired Navy plates).

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:51:05am

re: #85 Anymouse 🌹

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:51:24am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹

Well, it’s on my driver’s license, not my plates. My plates are Gold Star Family (though I am also eligible for either disabled veteran plates without a handicap symbol [we have both] or retired Navy plates).

Ahhh. I still don’t think they’ll hassle ya.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 5:54:27am

re: #89 A Mom Anon

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 21, 2019 • 6:05:11am

re: #48 Dread Pirate

My oldest daughter drinks whiskey, I don’t know how she does it. Whiskey, scotch, bourbon all are instant heartburn for me. Mixed rum and beer are my forte, and I can drink gin and tonic. Speaking of which, I wonder how Klys is doing. I hope they are OK.

I would rather be hit on the head with a whiskey bottle than drink from it. Even fine single malts are wasted on me.

My taste is clear alcohol: vodka, tequila, gin, white rum, etc.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 6:06:08am

re: #91 Dread Pirate

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DangerMan  Jul 21, 2019 • 6:12:21am

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 6:16:29am
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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 6:17:29am

Finished that bowl I started at however many hours (6 minus 1.5) ago. GG#4 is devastating, and surprisingly was unable to knock me out cold.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 6:18:32am

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

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BigPapa  Jul 21, 2019 • 6:20:22am

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 6:21:41am

Still promoting the racist Angel Moms Astroturf organisation. Desperately trying to get off the news of Epstein.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 6:26:24am

re: #101 Anymouse 🌹

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Still promoting the racist Angel Moms Astroturf organisation. Desperately trying to get off the news of Epstein.

You actually went after a Gold Star family’s ethnicity for criticizing you. Twitter is under no obligation to give her a platform and the whole Angel Mom shit is blood libel inspired crap

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 6:27:25am

This is a strange world where the whims of Fox and Friends decide the President’s focus.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 6:28:14am

Oh and lest we forget that Trump and his allies RTed hateful stuff directed at David Hogg.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 6:36:22am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

You actually went after a Gold Star family’s ethnicity for criticizing you. Twitter is under no obligation to give her a platform and the whole Angel Mom shit is blood libel inspired crap

It’s telling that of all the conservative sites reporting this (they are in lockstep), none of them are actually reporting what the tweet said.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 6:40:45am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

It’s telling that of all the conservative sites reporting this (they are in lockstep), none of them are actually reporting what the tweet said.

They just want to make it out like it’s Twitter censoring a mother whose child was killed. It’s slick propaganda. Outrage porn.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 6:43:08am

I’ve been up 24 hours for no reason, yay me. What the hell am I doing? I’ve noticed two things about being up for 24 hours. My eyes are seeing a change of brightness that coincides with my pulse and I for get the first thing.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 6:52:17am

re: #107 Dread Pirate

I’ve been up 24 hours for no reason, yay me. What the hell am I doing? I’ve noticed two things about being up for 24 hours. My eyes are seeing a change of brightness that coincides with my pulse and I for get the first thing.

Sounds like it’s rum o’clock followed by bed. /s

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 21, 2019 • 6:58:33am

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹

As it always is with authoritarians; the enemy is both feeble and helpless yet essentially omnipotent. Easily destroyed and yet almost invicible.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:01:29am

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹

Sounds like it’s rum o’clock followed by bed. /s

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Motherfucker! Now Im’ gonna need to load another bowl of GG#4. Going to have to put in a massive pre-order with the delivery service this week. (ok why does spell checker suggest pee-order. Is pee-order a word, Is pre-order not a real word?) I blame Americans.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:03:12am

The sun is up, even in California. Go home sun, you’re drunk.

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Old Liberal  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:03:22am

re: #109 Dr Lizardo

As it always is with authoritarians; the enemy is both feeble and helpless yet essentially omnipotent. Easily destroyed and yet almost invicible.

Schrodinger’s Jew
Schrodinger’s Refugee
Schrodinger’s Squad
Schrodinger’s Obama
Schrodinger’s Socialist

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:04:53am

re: #110 Dread Pirate

Motherfucker! Now Im’ gonna need to load another bowl of GG#4. Going to have to put in a massive pre-order with the delivery service this week. (ok why does spell checker suggest pee-order. Is pee-order a word, Is pre-order not a real word?) I blame Americans.

“Pee-order?” Well, pee is a word, and order is a word, and if it’s hyphenated a spell checker will assess it as two words.

Pre-order interestingly enough comes up in Firefox’s spell check as an error, with or without a hyphen.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:06:16am

re: #112 Old Liberal

Schrodinger’s Jew
Schrodinger’s Refugee
Schrodinger’s Squad
Schrodinger’s Obama
Schrodinger’s Socialist

Perpetual Foreigner (goes to Wikipedia)

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:09:39am

re: #114 Anymouse 🌹

Perpetual Foreigner (goes to Wikipedia)

That entry is five days old. Good job on whoever started it.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:11:13am

re: #112 Old Liberal

Schrodinger’s Jew
Schrodinger’s Refugee
Schrodinger’s Squad
Schrodinger’s Obama
Schrodinger’s Socialist

I have Schrodinger’s ammo clips for my home protection carbine. It’s a random mix of FMJ and hollow-points. Is it going to punch a hole in you or is it going to open up like a propeller and punch a really big-fucking hole in you? Personally I prefer my machete, There’s no quantum paradox with it.

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:12:10am

How do you ask someone where their lineage traces back to? Like, if it’s obvious they have Asian features, how do you ask where their ancestors came from?

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:13:08am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

It’s telling that of all the conservative sites reporting this (they are in lockstep), none of them are actually reporting what the tweet said.

I was suspended from Twitter for no fucking reason whatsoever so fuck Angel Mom. She can use Gab.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:14:50am

re: #117 Belafon

How do you ask someone where their lineage traces back to? Like, if it’s obvious they have Asian features, how do you ask where their ancestors came from?

Some of my grandkids have Asian features. I mean like, very obvious Asian features. I just say it is my Eskimo heritage.

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Old Liberal  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:15:15am

re: #117 Belafon

How do you ask someone where their lineage traces back to? Like, if it’s obvious they have Asian features, how do you ask where their ancestors came from?

You mean how do you have the chutzpah ?

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jeffreyw  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:15:22am

re: #110 Dread Pirate

Motherfucker! Now Im’ gonna need to load another bowl of GG#4. Going to have to put in a massive pre-order with the delivery service this week. (ok why does spell checker suggest pee-order. Is pee-order a word, Is pre-order not a real word?) I blame Americans.

I’m pretty sure it’s a word in Russian.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:15:38am

re: #117 Belafon

How do you ask someone where their lineage traces back to? Like, if it’s obvious they have Asian features, how do you ask where their ancestors came from?

I’m not sure. What’s interesting for me is I have fairly close for a white dude (third cousins) who are immigrants. They even have our family’s surname still.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:16:21am

re: #118 The Pie Overlord!

I was suspended from Twitter for no fucking reason whatsoever so fuck Angel Mom. She can use Gab.

And the eternal grievance-fest which is Gab is failing, because what those on Gab really want to do is attack anyone who is to the left of Hitler. They can’t do that on Gab, because no sane liberal or both-siderist would be caught dead on Gab.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:17:53am

When my daughter was a baby, (this was in Seattle in the 1970’s) some random person at the supermarket asked me if she was an adopted Vietnamese war orphan.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:18:13am

re: #117 Belafon

How do you ask someone where their lineage traces back to? Like, if it’s obvious they have Asian features, how do you ask where their ancestors came from?

I usually go by their name. is it semi-Hispanic like Filipino, is it really short 3 letters or less like Korean, does it have a lot of O’s or As like Japanese, etc. My name is a color so what the fuck do I know. You could just ask what kind of name thy have is. It’s not really rude question if asked without some sort of implied malice.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:18:35am

re: #112 Old Liberal

An older Jewish chap gets on the streetcar on Prinz Wilhelm Strasse, and sees his neighbor Moshe reading that week’s edition of Der Stürmer.

He sits down next to Moshe and says, “Moshe! How on earth can you read that filth? Der Stürmer?! Streicher’s newspaper, that maniac?!”

Moshe says, “Sure. When I read the Berliner Tageblatt, all I read is about boycotts of Jewish shops, these brownshirts beating up women in the streets, Rabbis being harassed for no reason. But when I read Der Stürmer, well, we own the banks, we own all the newspapers, we have the whole German nation eating out of the palm of our hands! What could be better?”

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:19:27am

THREAD

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:19:42am

re: #117 Belafon

How do you ask someone where their lineage traces back to? Like, if it’s obvious they have Asian features, how do you ask where their ancestors came from?

For a racist, they don’t. They just pick some random country they can name in Asia (Japan, China, South Korea, &c).

Even when Nikki Haley was running for governor of South Carolina, politicians in her own party were telling her to “go back where she came from.”

When liberals and others called them out on their racism, they immediately retreated to the position “we meant Upstate.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:21:05am

re: #125 Dread Pirate

I usually go by their name. is it semi-Hispanic like Filipino, is it really short 3 letters or less like Korean, does it have a lot of O’s or As like Japanese, etc. My name is a color so what the fuck do I know. You could just ask what kind of name thy have is. It’s not really rude question if asked without some sort of implied malice.

Surnames don’t always tell the whole story but I agree that it’s not rude if you’re not showing malice or implying it. My surname is German and my German ancestors arrived between 1840-1882 in the Castle Garden era. But I’m more ancestrally Slavic with people who arrived in the Ellis Island era.

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:22:44am

re: #120 Old Liberal

You mean how do you have the chutzpah ?

Like actual curiousity.

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Old Liberal  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:22:48am

re: #124 The Pie Overlord!

When my daughter was a baby, (this was in Seattle in the 1970’s) some random person at the supermarket asked me if she was an adopted Vietnamese war orphan.

My daughter gets some of that. She came from Korea at 13 months. I know it makes her feel like she sticks out. People want to know why she doesn’t have an accent. If I came up to some random European looking person, said you look like you are from Germany, why don’t you have an accent I wonder if they would get a clue?

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:23:53am

re: #128 Anymouse 🌹

As they say in Letterkenny, “Upcountry de-gens.’

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:24:04am

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Surnames don’t always tell the whole story but I agree that it’s not rude if you’re not showing malice or implying it. My surname is German and my German ancestors arrived between 1840-1882 in the Castle Garden era. But I’m more ancestrally Slavic with people who arrived in the Ellis Island era.

My surname pretty much gives away what country my father’s family comes from “something something ends in cz.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:26:10am

re: #131 Old Liberal

My daughter gets some of that. She came from Korea at 13 months. I know it makes her feel like she sticks out. People want to know why she doesn’t have an accent. If I came up to some random European looking person, said you look like you are from Germany, why don’t you have an accent I wonder if they would get a clue?

Well my daughter was born from me, so she is mostly Ashkenazi with some Sephardi and a drop of Eskimo.

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:26:14am

re: #125 Dread Pirate

I usually go by their name. is it semi-Hispanic like Filipino, is it really short 3 letters or less like Korean, does it have a lot of O’s or As like Japanese, etc. My name is a color so what the fuck do I know. You could just ask what kind of name thy have is. It’s not really rude question if asked without some sort of implied malice.

And what about when Susan Smith’s mom is Asian but her dad is American?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:27:10am

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹

My surname pretty much gives away what country my father’s family comes from “something something ends in cz.”

Our family surname had a cz in the middle of it, which was changed to ch in America

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:27:22am

re: #131 Old Liberal

My daughter gets some of that. She came from Korea at 13 months. I know it makes her feel like she sticks out. People want to know why she doesn’t have an accent. If I came up to some random European looking person, said you look like you are from Germany, why don’t you have an accent I wonder if they would get a clue?

Yeah, the accent thing is annoying. As a Texan who went to college in Massachusetts, I got asked that question.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:27:55am

re: #122 HappyWarrior

I’m not sure. What’s interesting for me is I have fairly close for a white dude (third cousins) who are immigrants. They even have our family’s surname still.

Only four people in my family carry my surname: my mother, my sister, my son, and me.

Our family lineage is likely to end, as neither my son nor my sister are interested in having children.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:28:23am

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹

My surname pretty much gives away what country my father’s family comes from “something something ends in cz.”

I am constantly surprised at how many people can’t pronounce my name and think it ends in “ski”

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:29:00am

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Our family surname had a cz in the middle of it, which was changed to ch in America

My wife’s family’s surname was Seawolf, and customs people dropped the “awo” for them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:29:03am

re: #135 Belafon

And what about when Susan Smith’s mom is Asian but her dad is American?

Tammy Duckworth.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:30:45am

re: #138 Anymouse 🌹

Only four people in my family carry my surname: my mother, my sister, my son, and me.

Our family lineage is likely to end, as neither my son nor my sister are interested in having children.

Well it’s my grandmother’s maiden name. My own surname is me, my dad, 3 uncles, brothers, niece, & my one uncle’s two daughters. Not a lot of sons with sons here. With my grandmother, her uncle had a lot of sons who had a lot of sons.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:31:13am

re: #139 The Pie Overlord!

I am constantly surprised at how many people can’t pronounce my name and think it ends in “ski”

My mother tells a story about when she was stationed at NAS Norfolk, and several people in her division in a row alphabetically had Polish names. When roll was called, it would be “ski” “ski” “ski” &c. They learned which “ski” they were to answer to muster.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:31:14am

re: #134 The Pie Overlord!

Well my daughter was born from me, so she is mostly Ashkenazi with some Sephardi and a drop of Eskimo.

My wife is of Russian Jewish linage and she has the Eskimo-Asian-like eyes.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:31:44am

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tammy Duckworth.

Johnny Damon for you baseball fans too. Father was Croatian-Irish American and mother like Tammy is Thai.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:34:04am

re: #144 Dread Pirate

My wife is of Russian Jewish linage and she has the Eskimo-Asian-like eyes.

I’ve always thought my grandmother- Rusyn Slovak parentage had a little bit of Asian features in her eyes. Makes sense. They’re Eastern Slavs and Eastern Slavs have mixed with East Asian groups more recently than South Slavs like my grandfather’s line who are from Slovenia. I myself get told I have sleepy looking eyes.

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Old Liberal  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:34:29am

As a male of European descent I’ve been free from all the bullshit. But here in South America I’ve got a tiny feel for what it’s like to stick out. It’s clear I’m a foreigner. I’m much taller than most everyone and people stare at me. They wonder why I am in a certain neighborhood or on a certain bus. My Northern European pale skin is notable. They wonder if I’m one of the nice ones or one of the rude ones. Some resent me being here. Nobody has told me to go back where I came from (yet) but I can imagine how much that would hurt. Just the tiniest taste without the horror that non- white people in the US taste every day. I’m so surprised that they don’t hate me just on account of my nation’s crimes against them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:35:03am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

I’ve always thought my grandmother- Rusyn Slovak parentage had a little bit of Asian features in her eyes. Makes sense. They’re Eastern Slavs and Eastern Slavs have mixed with East Asian groups more recently than South Slavs like my grandfather’s line who are from Slovenia. I myself get told I have sleepy looking eyes.

My grandmother and great aunt were Croatian/Hungarian and also had eyes like Attila the Nun

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:35:05am

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Our family surname had a cz in the middle of it, which was changed to ch in America

My wife has taken to signing things with the “dark l” which originally appeared in my family’s name, but was replaced by a normal l.

“Ł” corresponds to a “w” sound in English.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:35:11am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:35:52am

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹

My wife has taken to signing things with the “dark l” which originally appeared in my family’s name, but was replaced by a normal l.

“Ł” corresponds to a “w” sound in English.

Oh Lord, stuck in “Łodzi again

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:36:46am

re: #143 Anymouse 🌹

My mother tells a story about when she was stationed at NAS Norfolk, and several people in her division in a row alphabetically had Polish names. When roll was called, it would be “ski” “ski” “ski” &c. They learned which “ski” they were to answer to muster.

Way I’d do it would be the first letter of the surname. So say the person’s name was Kowalski, I’d call them K-ski. My grandmother’s maiden name ends in cik but it’s pronounced chik in the old country and by our New York/New Jersey cousins as it does in our ancestral language.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:37:57am

re: #152 HappyWarrior

Way I’d do it would be the first letter of the surname. So say the person’s name was Kowalski, I’d call them K-ski. My grandmother’s maiden name ends in cik but it’s pronounced chik in the old country and by our New York/New Jersey cousins as it does in our ancestral language.

My mother and sister pronounce the regular “l” and my son and I pronounce the dark l.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:38:18am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My grandmother and great aunt were Croatian/Hungarian and also had eyes like Attila the Nun

Now I’ve never seen my grandfather’s parents but his aunt and uncle looked a little more Germanic but still Slavic. My one German cousin even told me my photo of his grandmother was a dead ringer for her Great Grandmother.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:38:35am

re: #145 HappyWarrior

Johnny Damon for you baseball fans too. Father was Croatian-Irish American and mother like Tammy is Thai.

I like Sen Duckworth for Belafon’s question because of that debate incident when, during a debate, Mark Kirk made that crack about her family’s ethnic and military heritage.
Her reply was “I am a Daughter of the American Revolution”.

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fern01  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:39:03am

re: #50 Dread Pirate

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Well shit, my weed budget is going to go through the roof with this much stress. Fuck you Trump, you fuck everything up. You dick.

But he’s trying so hard to get that nobel that he deserves so much.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:40:34am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹

My mother and sister pronounce the regular “l” and my son and I pronounce the dark l.

It’s crazy how names can be said differently in the same family. My dad’s mom said her maiden name completely different than how it’s said in County Down/her brother the priest and County Down was a part of Ireland that became English speaking much quicker than the parts where her mother’s family cane from in the Gaeltacht.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:40:43am

My mother’s side of the family had their name Anglicized from the original French as they moved to British Canada from Quebec. I think of myself as 75% British and 25% Fucking Dutch or French, depending on where the border on the day of egress. (Nobody likes the Dutch)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:41:28am

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

I like Sen Duckworth for Belafon’s question because of that debate incident when, during a debate, Mark Kirk made that crack about her family’s ethnic and military heritage.
Her reply was “I am a Daughter of the American Revolution”.

It was such a jackass move by someone who should have known better. But yeah exactly.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:42:31am

re: #158 Dread Pirate

My mother’s side of the family had their name Anglicized from the original French as they moved to British Canada from Quebec. I think of myself as 75% British and 25% Fucking Dutch or French, depending on where the border on the day of egress. (Nobody likes the Dutch)

Dude, I like the Dutch. Definitely the most laidback of the Germanic peoples. Great street food too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:44:52am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:46:50am

When Non-Jews Wield Anti-Semitism as Political Shield (Goes to GQ, the lede):

There’s a meme I’ve seen go around a thousand times in Jewish spaces online—in Facebook groups, or Twitter exchanges between snarky leftist Jews—a still from a Yiddish lesson series on Youtube, with the phrase “The Jews Are Tired.” It’s an all-purpose response for Gentile fuckery—speaking for Jews, about Jews, around Jews, against Jews, utilizing us without our consent or input. Black background, white letters: The Jews Are Tired.

And after the past few days, in which a fleet of Republicans and the president himself have utilized Jews as human shields for racist rhetoric, the Jews are tired, tired, tired of being used as defenses against naked racism, tired of being used to justify conditions at detention camps. Just plain tired.

(more)

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Dread Pirate  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:47:38am

re: #160 HappyWarrior

Dude, I like the Dutch. Definitely the most laidback of the Germanic peoples. Great street food too.

The Dutch

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:48:07am

moron

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fern01  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:48:09am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

You actually went after a Gold Star family’s ethnicity for criticizing you. Twitter is under no obligation to give her a platform and the whole Angel Mom shit is blood libel inspired crap

Twitter thinks it’s obliged to give trump a platform - anyone else attacking individuals as he does would be banned forever - so it’s most likely that trump will ensure she is back on twitter.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:48:19am

Vanity Fair has an article about Epstein where they interview employees at the airstrip on St. Thomas (near Epstein’s private island). The article reports that Epstein continued to bring underage girls to the island as recently as this year.

Here’s what they had to say:

“They looked very young. They were always wearing college sweatshirts. It seemed like camouflage, that’s the best way to put it.”

“The fact that young girls were getting out of his helicopter and getting into his plane, it was like he was flaunting it, … But it was said that he always tipped really well, so everyone overlooked it.”

“My colleagues and I definitely talked about how we didn’t understand how this guy was still allowed to be around children, … We didn’t say anything because we figured law enforcement was doing their job. I have to say that that is regrettable, but we really didn’t even know who to tell, or if anyone really cared.”

I want Epstein to be stripped of all his assets and rot in jail.

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Old Liberal  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:50:19am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Why were there “racial tensions” in NYC? Maybe because minority people were being abused? Denied housing? Denied service? Not hired for good jobs? Segregated? Bullied into making guilty pleas when they were innocent? They still are, shot 50 times, choked to death over cigarettes, unconstitutional stopped and frisked. And which “side” did our dear leader take? And still takes?

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:50:25am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:50:31am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:55:08am

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

no, not moron. He is very specifically lying about the four congresswoman and calling them anti-Semites.

See the GQ article above.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:57:23am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:58:20am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:58:23am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:58:49am

re: #163 Dread Pirate

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I know haha.

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:59:17am

re: #173 The Pie Overlord!

They actually asked a Democrat to be on the show?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:59:36am

re: #173 The Pie Overlord!

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Bam! To the wall! Booker goes deep. Home run!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 7:59:57am

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sure Rudy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:00:16am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

At some point, when people keep making excuses for racists, that means they’re racists.

So I’ll call it.

Maggie Haberman is a racist.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:00:46am

Damn. Cyriak does the weirdest shit.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:01:18am

re: #167 Old Liberal

Why were there “racial tensions” in NYC? Maybe because minority people were being abused? Denied housing? Denied service? Not hired for good jobs? Segregated? Bullied into making guilty pleas when they were innocent? They still are, shot 50 times, choked to death over cigarettes, unconstitutional stopped and frisked. And which “side” did our dear leader take? And still takes?

There is almost a day when it all went bad. In the early 60s NYC had the usual racial and especially ethnic crap you get when a bunch of people are dumped on top of each other, but it was basically cool. I could ride a bike down 125th street with no worries except taxi cabs. The only place I wouldn’t go at all hours of day or night was The Bowery, and that had nothing to do with race. I had tickets for a Jimmy Smith concert at the Apollo. Then a white cop shot a 14 year old kid, and I never got to use them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:02:09am

Maggie Haberman’s latest hot take, “it was a different era” is the same excuse Christians use to wave away mandated slavery in the Bible, in both Testaments.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:05:02am

re: #171 The Pie Overlord!

That’s pulling no punches, to put it mildly.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:06:32am

Trump is younger than Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton was going to school as integration was happening. I believe Bill has talked about how hearing I Have a Dream moved him. My one uncle. Just a year younger than Trump was telling me how much he loved the Obama’s and he also likes Kamala Harris. Trump is a bigot. It’s not because of when and where he grew up. It’s because he’s an unrepentant bigot who would be nothing in politics without it to distract from he has nothing to offer the country.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:06:45am

re: #175 Belafon

They actually asked a Democrat to be on the show?

No Republican wanted to be seen defending racism on national television, or crossing Trump. Paragons of heroism they are.

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Old Liberal  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:08:58am

Haberman’s Takes (Not)

Steve grew up in a neighborhood where drugs were sold. So he’s not accountable for selling drugs.

Tom grew up where lots of people molested kids. So he’s not accountable.

Nancy grew up where lots of her friends shoplifted. So she’s not accountable.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:09:30am

Trump if anything was sheltered from the racial hostilities that existed. A pampered rich boy.

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:10:49am

re: #186 HappyWarrior

Trump if anything was sheltered from the racial hostilities that existed. A pampered rich boy.

He was always on the white side of the law.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:17:27am

Professor Richard Dawkins had a letter in the Sunday Times supporting the former UK ambassador’s assessment of Donald Trump.

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steve_davis  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:19:14am

re: #3 BigPapa

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hey, if you’re gonna eat pussy on camera, get paid for it, at least!

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:20:49am

re: #158 Dread Pirate

My mother’s side of the family had their name Anglicized from the original French as they moved to British Canada from Quebec. I think of myself as 75% British and 25% Fucking Dutch or French, depending on where the border on the day of egress. (Nobody likes the Dutch)

The Dutch

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sagehen  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:21:26am

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Even by 1950’s NYC standards, the Trump family were so notoriously racist that Woody Guthrie wrote a song about it. Called them out by name.

Woody Guthrie — I Ain’t Got No Home/Old Man Trump by the Missin’ Cousins

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:21:57am

re: #183 HappyWarrior

Plus Bill Clinton grew up in Arkansas, not exactly a hotbed of progressiveness. He was eighteen when the Civil Rights Act was passed.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:22:45am

re: #191 sagehen

Even by 1950’s NYC standards, the Trump family were so notoriously racist that Woody Guthrie wrote a song about it. Called them out by name.

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And Trump himself is the inspiration for Biff, that bully I thought we all enjoyed rooting against in BATF.

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Weaselone  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:26:09am

re: #184 Anymouse 🌹

No Republican wanted to be seen defending racism on national television, or crossing Trump. Paragons of heroism they are.

Didn’t you know that Trump can’t be racist because the economy is good? This is almost literally 50 percent of responses. Trump can’t be racist because minority unemployment rates are low.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:26:11am
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Eventual Carrion  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:26:47am

re: #163 Dread Pirate

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Ha, I should have read ahead a coupe more posts.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:26:51am

He also was the bully rich kid’s father in the Little Rascals movie too. Literally. It was a cameo appearance. I really thought until 2012 when Romney was so happy to ahve his support and the whining that Obama’s presser about OBL being killed interrupting his trashy show that Donald Trump was one of those things like the Westboro Baptists that left and right agreed was a pathetic joke.

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mmmirele  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:28:45am

re: #101 Anymouse 🌹

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Still promoting the racist Angel Moms Astroturf organisation. Desperately trying to get off the news of Epstein.

I hate the Angel thing. My congressman, Andy Biggs, is all in on these poor people who got killed by undocumented people, but he couldn’t give a shit about children, legal or not. He only cares about dead Angel people and unborn fetuses. The rest of us can just get stuffed.

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steve_davis  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:29:11am

re: #23 Dr Lizardo

Same here: 13/14 correct.

14 of 14. Of course, I’ve been teaching comp to 18 year olds for 30 years, so separating out bullshit is child’s play for me at this point.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:32:11am

Zing!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:33:14am

It’s not even possible to define what Trump is, so it’s hopeless to guess why he is. We can see what he does, and what he does is act like every kind of motherfucker.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:33:35am

This abortion clinic is blessed (Opinion piece at Religion News Service, more at the link):

(RNS) — The other day, I joined clergy from many faiths in a worship service that, like many others, featured poetry, music, ritual and prayer. But this service was different. Its purpose was to bring blessings on a reproductive health clinic that provides abortions.

With their presence as well as their prayers, 10 diverse faith leaders proclaimed what too few people have heard: Religious people can be pro-choice, not in spite of their faith but because of it.

Too few have heard this, in large part because Christian conservatives have been exceptionally loud and strident in condemning abortion as religiously and morally unacceptable. But their religious understanding of abortion is not the only understanding. It never has been.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:34:19am

re: #200 Dr Lizardo

Zing!

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With assists from the Swansons frozen food heir (Tucker Carlson) and multimilionaire talk show hosts like Hannity who have been around forever. The right’s “anti elite” shit is because the wrong people to them have grown influence and almost always those people are women and or PoC.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:35:31am

re: #198 mmmirele

I hate the Angel thing. My congressman, Andy Biggs, is all in on these poor people who got killed by undocumented people, but he couldn’t give a shit about children, legal or not. He only cares about dead Angel people and unborn fetuses. The rest of us can just get stuffed.

Rep. Biggs doesn’t care about the overwhelming majority of people killed by the “well-regulated militia” either. He is exploiting them to advance his racist agenda, nothing more.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:36:10am

re: #194 Weaselone

Didn’t you know that Trump can’t be racist because the economy is good? This is almost literally 50 percent of responses. Trump can’t be racist because minority unemployment rates are low.

And it has been a steady drop in unemployment of minorities since about April 2010. Thanks Obama, fuck you tRump.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:41:15am

re: #201 Decatur Deb

It’s not even possible to define what Trump is, so it’s hopeless to guess why he is. We can see what he does, and what he does is act like every kind of motherfucker.

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mmmirele  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:44:54am

OK, I did a tiny bit of searching and found the tweet that allegedly got the head Angel Mom pulled off Twitter. I’m putting it behind the button.

rgg+V4t1OsAupae9coEr+uG88RKHXTw/IrOCpMwMKD4qOa0An9hsD9gmzPd1ekayfEFy9uwb6+RTBeJxbd6u3NuY2qRU2+JfxyD5hwaJO5ckqJz6WSz11bz4H0YzIG4TFlv9m2TrsJOC1WXZnpHYCNwBNKWpJDqmZXqd/H5mFHhcbp7DaOUmhLPDr1sWV1gYRBUPI5m90DVSLPCUqiXh37DzVIRcWnX6rkaX5W0AJELwAp3QmKriU3QdZKFEKnQKnQJlkul+NurupipeODDOx2ATSyDbOz1kY6GuJ21DzZi+53o+HJ8TAyRypBfq0SU+c4mlzQM+cZkoCA9n6zusajrxy2Tl7LGVzyzY7bMyWmjkqSUj3x6hvVjcHtl51QWT1TuB+3abMB6J5OQNtR7gHQ==

Of course it’s repulsive garbage but I’m trying to figure out what makes this tweet so different from every other one that comes out of this crowd and says similar things.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:47:50am

re: #207 mmmirele

OK, I did a tiny bit of searching and found the tweet that allegedly got the head Angel Mom pulled off Twitter. I’m putting it behind the button.

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Of course it’s repulsive garbage but I’m trying to figure out what makes this tweet so different from every other one that comes out of this crowd and says similar things.

If she’s so anti-illegal alien. Why no anger at Trump who actually employed them and then lied about. IT’s almost like she’s a right wing hack who is using her tragedy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:48:49am

Giant manta ray ‘begs snorkeler to help save her life in incredible encounter’ (The Independent)

A giant manta ray has been filmed appearing to beg a professional diver for help saving her life.

The three-metre-wide sea creature is shown swimming up to snorkelling guide Jake Wilton and flipping over in the water - apparently to show him fish hooks embedded in her right eye.

The footage, caught near Ningaloo Reef off Western Australia’s north west coast, seems to show the manta ray then staying perfectly still as Mr Wilton gently removes the potentially deadly spikes.

The animal - well known to locals and affectionately nicknamed Freckles - then swims away with a flourish as the diver emerges triumphantly with the hooks.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:50:34am

Being undocumented is a misdemeanor. If someone kills someone who once had a parking ticket. Is it a failure because we didn’t harshly punish them. I feel awful her family member was killed but that doesn’t excuse Trump’s immigration policy and racism.

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mmmirele  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:54:07am

Oh, on the subject of names and ethnicity, as far as I can tell from doing genealogy, my ancestors arrived here in the 1600s and 1700s from England, Scotland, Ireland, the Netherlands, France and Germany. Nobody has a problem spelling my last name (“Holmes”). It’s my first name (“Deana”, pronounced Dee-na) they have a problem with. It CONTINUALLY gets misspelled and mispronounced, even on Twitter when it’s right in front of them. I go by Dee at work.

I told those asshats at the church/cult I picket that I go by Dee because they were calling me Deana, pronounced correctly. (I presume they’re leading prayers from the pulpit because everyone got it right. Everyone.) The thought of my legal name in the mouth of those awful people just gave me the utter creeps and I’ve told them to call me Dee.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:58:00am

re: #207 mmmirele

OK, I did a tiny bit of searching and found the tweet that allegedly got the head Angel Mom pulled off Twitter. I’m putting it behind the button.

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Of course it’s repulsive garbage but I’m trying to figure out what makes this tweet so different from every other one that comes out of this crowd and says similar things.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 8:58:19am

Well, I am the last of my family’s line. There will be no more Bacons but there will be my nephews and nieces carrying on their father’s name.

And I am just fine with that.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:00:21am

re: #207 mmmirele

Pizfr4SYU0fCd+LtBW8ZP1xcpqOPaRFt0fGKtTXLCRQmxM7Db5Rwp9isBgyROIf7l2LwR7cH9kw58cm5v5OPcabpwCDNfKHvk/JKNBGo+L/5NwXVjPC3ByfQfPBT6X266vIL/uJzmOu7Xv8UQSQyukSvdSg2yq6IaybwoDFdNkZRs+QiX6yt2l6NMZHASIpXmQ3EXUuF4lN+uwTj+wPKhzsWLcNS7xHiSGJLzFomW70mWWadxhwJ4ci4A9ai4OJxnldKIr1OsRgn0kBevr5m0w6EpykoH+yNdAgi8h/Ex7OjRLXIljkIigRxdM5RQ5Idr5Qnq3u6W9hbeBMv8dFzR5rJAIOE5t9HmbpkhJe0T9I=

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:00:39am

OT According to the NWS today is supposed to be the last day of this heat wave. Since it is still hot I am again at Wegman’s. Thank G-d they have good food, A/C and WiFi.
forecast.weather.gov

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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:03:37am

Hopefully, Winter will teach Arabella decency and compassion. No one in in the Trump or Kushner family is capable of teaching her those lessons.

Winter is adorable and doesn’t deserve this fate.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:07:22am

re: #210 HappyWarrior

Being undocumented is a misdemeanor. If someone kills someone who once had a parking ticket. Is it a failure because we didn’t harshly punish them. I feel awful her family member was killed but that doesn’t excuse Trump’s immigration policy and racism.

And the misdemeanour law itself was written with racist intent, by a segregationist in the Twenties.

re: #208 HappyWarrior

If she’s so anti-illegal alien. Why no anger at Trump who actually employed them and then lied about. IT’s almost like she’s a right wing hack who is using her tragedy.

And the article has made it to FOX. Expect winger outrage, with a chance of butthurt.

Her son (a police officer) was killed by a drunk driver in 2014 who was undocumented. She immediately went off the deep end and blamed undocumented immigrants, not drunk drivers (who kill vastly more people).

She was the perfect mark for John Tanton’s racist organisations.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:15:20am

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s going to get them killed. By design. He wants it to happen. He’s a stochastic terrorist. How is this even ok with the Secret Service?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:16:57am

Mary Ann Mendoza’s name sounded familiar, so I looked it up.

She is the founder of “The Remembrance Project” (which promotes the so-called Angel Moms).

The Remembrance Project (Extremist Group) (Goes to the Southern Poverty Law Center)

She also founded the group in 2009, many years before her son was killed. She goes by “Mary Ann” now but used to go by “Maria.” I’m not sure if that’s because she just likes the Anglicization of her name, or she’s trying to hide her extremist roots. (Photographs of Mary Ann and Maria are the same person.)

While the Remembrance Project claims to advocate on behalf of the families of victims of violence and tragedy, its founder Maria Espinoza grossly misrepresents the level of crime committed by immigrants, routinely demonizes immigrants as “invaders,” and has a record of working with white nationalists.

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:18:10am

re: #211 mmmirele

Oh, on the subject of names and ethnicity, as far as I can tell from doing genealogy, my ancestors arrived here in the 1600s and 1700s from England, Scotland, Ireland, the Netherlands, France and Germany. Nobody has a problem spelling my last name (“Holmes”). It’s my first name (“Deana”, pronounced Dee-na) they have a problem with. It CONTINUALLY gets misspelled and mispronounced, even on Twitter when it’s right in front of them. I go by Dee at work.

I told those asshats at the church/cult I picket that I go by Dee because they were calling me Deana, pronounced correctly. (I presume they’re leading prayers from the pulpit because everyone got it right. Everyone.) The thought of my legal name in the mouth of those awful people just gave me the utter creeps and I’ve told them to call me Dee.

Deanna is pronounced De-anna, so I can see some of the confusion since your name is one letter off. I would not be surpised if others pronounce Deana as De-ana.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:22:55am

Sure, Jan Mike.

Vice President Mike Pence said President Trump “might make an effort” to speak out against offensive chants by his supporters at campaign rallies in the future.

“He might make an effort to speak out about it,” Pence told CBS News chief Washington correspondent Major Garrett during an interview for “The Takeout” podcast, parts of which aired Sunday on “Face the Nation.”

The vice president was pressed on Mr. Trump’s recent attacks against four Democratic congresswomen of color, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan.

cbsnews.com [autoplay video embedded at link]

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Teukka  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:24:45am
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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:25:25am

Because, of course he did

In 2005, Donald Trump had an idea to boost ratings for “The Apprentice,” … Trump suggested putting an all-white team against an all-black team and he thought it would become the highest-rated show on television.

He floated the idea on Howard Stern’s radio show in April 2005, … “Do you like it?” Trump asked Stern. To which he replied: “Yes.” Trump then asked Stern’s African-American co-host, Robin Quivers, the same question. “Well,” she said, “I think you’re going to have a riot.”

…”I think that it would be handled very beautifully by me. Because, as you know, I’m very diplomatic,” he said to Stern, adding that while there would be a mix of light-skinned and dark-skinned black contestants, the white team would be strictly blondes only. Source: Business Insider

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:28:07am

Morning/Afternoon Lizardim.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:29:51am

re: #223 Teddy’s Person

From your quote:

the white team would be strictly blondes only

Can we call him a Nazi now?

/half

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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:30:55am

re: #225 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

From your quote:

Can we call him a Nazi now?

/half

Yes (no snark at all)

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mmmirele  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:31:17am

re: #220 Belafon

Deanna is pronounced De-anna, so I can see some of the confusion since your name is one letter off. I would not be surpised if others pronounce Deana as De-ana.

Yep, and I just let it pass at places like the doctor’s office. No use correcting it. But I don’t want those asshats at Apologia using my legal name *at all*. The only people who use my legal name are people I’ve known for at least 30 years, not these johnny come latelys who think using my name somehow gives them some sort of familiarity with me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:33:17am
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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:34:58am

re: #223 Teddy’s Person

Because, of course he did

My son has been watching Ru Paul’s Drag Race, and went and looked up the contract conditions for the people on the show. Among other things the show has the right to (including your origin story), they have the right to edit the show as they wish, even if it makes you look like the bad guy/gal of the season.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:36:03am

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

Versus our previous President:

Obama Sings ‘Amazing Grace’ During Pinckney Eulogy | msnbc

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:39:02am
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Semper Fi  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:41:21am

re: #218 A Mom Anon

He’s going to get them killed. By design. He wants it to happen. He’s a stochastic terrorist. How is this even ok with the Secret Service?

Or, certainly placed them in a dangerous position…lots of kooks out there.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:41:24am

re: #229 Belafon

My son has been watching Ru Paul’s Drag Race, and went and looked up the contract conditions for the people on the show. Among other things the show has the right to (including your origin story), they have the right to edit the show as they wish, even if it makes you look like the bad guy/gal of the season.

I read in an article about Trump’s time on the Apprentice that the people who worked on the show would have to frequently re-edit because Trump would randomly fire someone, and they had to re-edit so that decision made some kind of sense (i.e., make the person who was fired look like the deserved to be fired).

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:41:39am

re: #215 PhillyPretzel

OT According to the NWS today is supposed to be the last day of this heat wave. Since it is still hot I am again at Wegman’s. Thank G-d they have good food, A/C and WiFi.
forecast.weather.gov

I walked a few blocks to a local cafe for brunch and it was already 90 F out. Very muggy and my A/C is struggling with that. I am tempted to find my dehumidifier and see if that can help dry the air out a little bit more and thus help with cooling.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:42:19am

Conservatives, such lovely people.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:44:18am

re: #235 DodgerFan1988

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Conservatives, such lovely people.

Rick needs his bottle and safe space. You’ll have to excuse him.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:45:51am

re: #235 DodgerFan1988

This proving their point without the slightest hint of self awareness…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:46:53am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wingnuts are all over that tweet.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:48:41am

re: #235 DodgerFan1988

Conservatives, such lovely people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:49:16am

worth the click

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:49:44am

re: #230 Anymouse 🌹

Versus our previous President:

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One of my memories when my Nana first showed signs of dementia was there was a PBS Bill documentary on that hymn. The message of that hymn, written by a former slave trader resonated with her who missed her husband, sisters, brother, parents, & other people she had grown up with dearly. She still loved us but she clearly wanted to see them again. I don’t know what happens when we die but I had never wanted an afterlife more than the day she passed away.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:50:19am

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

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worth the click

Poor dog.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:52:32am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:54:04am

While Obama was giving beautiful eulogies like that, Trump was stirring up lies against Obama. Obama quite honestly is the closest President in my life we’ve had to Lincoln. I hate how our nation treated him. We didn’t appreciate him.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:55:38am

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And then he tried to claim he never was a Birther. Trumpers always excuse us of hating Trump. Guilty -as charged, why shouldn’t any American hate him?

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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:56:59am

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Speaking of birth certificates, I’d kinda like to see Trumps to prove he’s an actual human being not the result of some experiment in a Nazi lab back in the day.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:57:32am

re: #246 Teddy’s Person

Speaking of birth certificates, I’d kinda like to see Trumps to prove he’s an actual human being not the result of some experiment in a Nazi lab back in the day.

Trump’s the one they grew at their lunar base… the lack of oxygen is why he doesn’t have a functional brain.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:58:37am

re: #246 Teddy’s Person

Speaking of birth certificates, I’d kinda like to see Trumps to prove he’s an actual human being not the result of some experiment in a Nazi lab back in the day.

He does act like if the fictional Mengele’s project in Boys From Brazil had success.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:58:40am

re: #244 HappyWarrior

While Obama was giving beautiful eulogies like that, Trump was stirring up lies against Obama. Obama quite honestly is the closest President in my life we’ve had to Lincoln. I hate how our nation treated him. We didn’t appreciate him.

Our nation didn’t treat him poorly, the minority who are loud conservatives and religious bigots did.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:58:54am

re: #247 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Trump’s the one they grew at their lunar base… the lack of oxygen is why he doesn’t have a functional brain.

And man, does his brain not function.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 9:59:55am

re: #249 Anymouse 🌹

Our nation didn’t treat him poorly, the minority who are loud conservatives and religious bigots did.

Enough people did. Trump should have lost in a landslide. And I’m sorry but enough liberals took him for granted too per the 2010 and 14 midterm results.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:01:01am

re: #246 Teddy’s Person

Speaking of birth certificates, I’d kinda like to see Trumps to prove he’s an actual human being not the result of some experiment in a Nazi lab back in the day.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:01:09am

re: #250 Teddy’s Person

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:01:44am

Obama was able to speak for all Americans even those who didn’t agree with him. Trump. Trump only speaks for his supporters if that and more aptly himself.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:02:20am

re: #251 HappyWarrior

Enough people did. Trump should have lost in a landslide.

He lost by one of the largest margins in the popular vote in history. Unfortunately that didn’t translate to the Electoral College.

We need you liberal elites to move to our states and tilt the playing field. /s

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:02:23am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:05:06am

re: #255 Anymouse 🌹

He lost by one of the largest margins in the popular vote in history. Unfortunately that didn’t translate to the Electoral College.

We need you liberal elites to move to our states and tilt the playing field. /s

I live in a red precinct. I stand by what I said. Americans didn’t appreciate Obama. And I include parts of the left in that.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:05:17am

re: #254 HappyWarrior

Obama was able to speak for all Americans even those who didn’t agree with him. Trump. Trump only speaks for his supporters if that and more aptly himself.

And what pissed me off to no end was when he genuinely engaged with people who didn’t agree with him in a good faith attempt to explain his position. I’m looking at you Joe the (not) Plumber. The right and the press would mock him endlessly.

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:06:24am

One of the things I like about C++ is that I can write code in such a way that the compiler will fail if I don’t put things together correctly. I wish they would come up with a version of C++, though, that less worried about C compliance than with generating safe code.

And no, Java doesn’t improve on this, because their implementation of generics is based on type erasure, and I write generic code all the time. I’ve had the compiler force me to treat something as an Object just to get it to fit into somewhere I knew what the actual type is going to be just so it would compile.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:06:43am

re: #258 Teddy’s Person

And what pissed me off to no end was when he genuinely engaged with people who didn’t agree with him in a good faith attempt to explain his position. I’m looking at you Joe the (not) Plumber. The right and the press would mock him endlessly.

Yeah he treated Not Joe with respect and that racist prick repaid that respect with red baiting and racism.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:09:07am

re: #257 HappyWarrior

I live in a red precinct. I stand by what I said. Americans didn’t appreciate Obama. And I include parts of the left in that.

Fair enough. There were plenty of PUMAs during the 2008 primary.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:09:34am

The right had hostility to Obama from the minute the RNC in 2008 started with assists from the usual suspects like Rush, Lumpy, & others. The left had many that expected him to be a progressive savior. So when ACA wasn’t the most progressive health care reform ever, they acted like he betrayed them. They didn’t appreciate the difficult decisions that had to be made in FP.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:11:59am

re: #261 Anymouse 🌹

Fair enough. There were plenty of PUMAs during the 2008 primary.

Yeah. I’m talking abstractly. One can show they didn’t appreciate Obama even if you voted for him twice.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:14:36am

Yuck, he crawled out of his hidey-hole in hell.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:16:16am

re: #264 Teddy’s Person

Yuck, he crawled out of his hidey-hole in hell.

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Oh shut up. We know the racism behind that whistle you weasel.

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Skip Intro  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:16:57am

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

worth the click

I thought they had another kid. Close call.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:18:49am

re: #264 Teddy’s Person

Stephen Miller claims the difference between Trump’s criticism of the US and “the squad“‘s is that Trump is uphold “the principles of Western civilization”

That is the stench of “intellectual conservatism”

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:18:56am

re: #264 Teddy’s Person

Yuck, he crawled out of his hidey-hole in hell.

And what are those principles, Steve?

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:19:38am

Vague terms like “Principles of Western Civilization” should be required to be defined.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:19:47am

re: #268 Belafon

And what are those principles, Steve?

pussy grabbing

wife cheating

child raping

influence peddling

obstructing justice

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mmmirele  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:21:55am

Not going to give a link for obvious reasons, but it looks like the Dumbest Man on the Internet is engaging in a 21st century version of phrenology.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:24:34am

re: #271 mmmirele

Not going to give a link for obvious reasons, but it looks like the Dumbest Man on the Internet is engaging in a 21st century version of phrenology.

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And your hero Trump is a demonstrated liar. But hey you be you Jim.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:24:36am

re: #268 Belafon

And what are those principles, Steve?

anything white

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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:28:42am

re: #271 mmmirele

Not going to give a link for obvious reasons, but it looks like the Dumbest Man on the Internet is engaging in a 21st century version of phrenology.

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Next up a 21st century version of drapetomania. Southern physician Samuel A. Cartwright hypothesized in 1851 that a mental illness, drapetomania, caused slaves to run away. Two recommended “cures” cutting of slaves’ big toes and/or preemptive whipping.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:29:08am

re: #271 mmmirele

Not going to give a link for obvious reasons, but it looks like the Dumbest Man on the Internet is engaging in a 21st century version of phrenology

The point is that anything negative about one’s ideological enemies is fair game, no matter how contrived.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:29:50am

re: #274 Teddy’s Person

Next up a 21st century version of drapetomania. Southern physician Samuel A. Cartwright hypothesized in 1851 that a mental illness, drapetomania, caused slaves to run away. Two recommended “cures” cutting of slaves’ big toes and/or preemptive whipping.

Because striving for freedom is a form of illness (in certain people)

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Charles Johnson  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:32:31am
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DangerMan  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:32:49am

re: #208 HappyWarrior

If she’s so anti-illegal alien. ***Why no anger at Trump who actually employed them and then lied about***. IT’s almost like she’s a right wing hack who is using her tragedy.

***This gets far too little attention

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:34:33am

And Trump didn’t say “Love it or leave it.” He said “They can go back to where they came from.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:34:50am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:35:09am

re: #277 Charles Johnson

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It was racist then too you fucking toady. Why is it okay for your fundie friends to claim we’re a disgrace to God if we treat LGBT people like human beings but the Squad can’t criticize Trumos immigration policy? Oh white, I see the difference.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:35:44am

re: #279 Belafon

And Trump didn’t say “Love it or leave it.” He said “They can go back to where they came from.”

And love it or leave it is profoundly anti American in its core.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:35:50am

Mayor Pete’s right

“That is the only issue that almost ended this country. … We’ve had a lot challenges in this country, but the one that actually almost ended this country in the Civil War was white supremacy,” Buttigieg said [to ABC while campaigning in Iowa]. “It could be the lurking issue that ends this country in the future, if we don’t wrangle it down in our time.” Soure

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Alephnaught  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:36:16am

Yesterday, I was out with the Order of Perpetual Indulgence on Mardi Gla, one of two Pride marches in Glasgow this year. (Two because, politics) Our local tabloid, seemed quite taken with us.

Also, got a photo of me taken by Andrew Milligan of PA Wire. Last time the Sisters had their photo taken by Andrew, it appeared in at least 26 news websites, from the Daily Mail to the Shropshire Star.

There were some God-botherers near the end of the march. Managed to blow some rainbow confetti their way, and rattle our fans to drown out their sanctimonious droning. We found out later that one of them attempted to wade into the crowd at the end of the march, and this is what happened…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:36:18am

re: #278 DangerMan

***This gets far too little attention

Yeah and he’s not alone.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:37:07am

re: #218 A Mom Anon

He’s going to get them killed. By design. He wants it to happen. He’s a stochastic terrorist. How is this even ok with the Secret Service?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:38:41am

re: #271 mmmirele

Not going to give a link for obvious reasons, but it looks like the Dumbest Man on the Internet is engaging in a 21st century version of phrenology.

He’s not the only one, since Quillette has been doing the same.

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makeitstop  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:39:13am

[ raises hand ]

What kind of pretentious weenbag names their kid Arabella in the 21st Century?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:39:39am

Don’t use your voice to improve a bad situation. Leave! If that statement was anything but racist, we would not have welcomed the innovation that built this country.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:40:21am

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

anything white

Whatever their definition of “white” is. That will narrow if they can get their fascist hands with a death grip on the throat of the Statue of Liberty.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:40:23am

re: #230 Anymouse 🌹

Versus our previous President:

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And I remember when family members trashed Obama with posts that said “Look at that Muslim Marxist blaspheming Our Savior”…

I HATE what Xtianity has done to promote racism and hatred.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:43:07am

re: #277 Charles Johnson
(with photo of billboard)

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Old Liberal  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:44:02am

re: #291 Joe Bacon 🌹

And I remember when family members trashed Obama with posts that said “Look at that Muslim Marxist blaspheming Our Savior”…

I HATE what Xtianity has done to promote racism and hatred.

It’s been ever thus.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:45:06am

The Klan’s forebearers did try to leave it while starting a bloody civil war because they couldn’t accept Lincoln was President but no one on the right tells CSA fans to leave. Gee I wonder why.///

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:46:23am

re: #271 mmmirele

Not going to give a link for obvious reasons, but it looks like the Dumbest Man on the Internet is engaging in a 21st century version of phrenology.

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SMOTI gonna get a rude awakening when the Xtians get full political power and toss his sorry ass into a re-education camp!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:46:51am

re: #218 A Mom Anon

He’s going to get them killed. By design. He wants it to happen. He’s a stochastic terrorist. How is this even ok with the Secret Service?

The Secret Service does not protect representatives or senators. Most senators or representatives are protected by a private security detail they pay for if they feel they need it. Most don’t do that.

After the Republican softball practice shooting, only nine representatives were protected by the Capital Police, the rest were on their own.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:46:57am

I guess protecting and serving only applies to some people.

“A Gretna [LA] police officer posted a comment on his Facebook page this past week calling U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez a ‘vile idiot’ who ‘needs a round, and I don’t mean the kind she used to serve,’” NOLA reported Saturday.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:47:54am

re: #297 Teddy’s Person

I guess protecting and serving only applies to some people.

But don’t criticize them.// Fuck these Gestapo wannabes.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:50:07am

re: #298 HappyWarrior

But don’t criticize them.// Fuck these Gestapo wannabes.

It’s a way of discouraging “those people” from running for office.

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wrenchwench  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:51:16am

Non sequitur:

14/14

As you were.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:51:20am

re: #299 Teddy’s Person

It’s a way of discouraging “those people” from running for office.

Yep.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:51:24am

re: #298 HappyWarrior

But don’t criticize them.// Fuck these Gestapo wannabes.

Our county sheriff is a nice guy, from a Mexican immigrant family. I do not understand why he is in the Republican Party (which is why I consistently leave the county sheriff line blank on ballots since no Democrats run for sheriff - I’d vote for a Libertarian if one ran for sheriff).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:51:28am

I think we can all agree Steven Millers “Principles of Western Civilization” can be summed up in about 14 words.

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:51:55am

re: #299 Teddy’s Person

It’s a way of discouraging “those people” from running for office.

That stopped working after MLK. This is just to show what group he’s part of.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:52:02am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:52:18am

re: #297 Teddy’s Person

I guess protecting and serving only applies to some people.

I wonder if that officer will get a stern talking to.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:52:40am

re: #302 Anymouse 🌹

Our county sheriff is a nice guy, from a Mexican immigrant family. I do not understand why he is in the Republican Party (which is why I consistently leave the county sheriff line blank on ballots since no Democrats run for sheriff - I’d vote for a Libertarian if one ran for sheriff).

He probably assumes he’d never get anywhere with a D label. I don’t get people like that either.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:53:08am

re: #306 Anymouse 🌹

I wonder if that officer will get a stern talking to.

It’s Louisiana, he’ll probably get a high five and a promotion.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:56:23am

Little Stevie lost his safe space on Fox

After Miller tried to change the subject to criminal gang members, Wallace shut him down, reminding him that Trump had pushed racist “birther” attacks on Barack Obama. Miller likened those efforts to undermine the legitimacy of the former president to questions that were once raised about John McCain. Wallace quickly fact-checked him, noting that concerns surrounding the late Arizona senator were not racial, but based on the 2008 nominee’s birth in the Panama Canal Zone.

Miller then argued that questioning people’s Americanism is okay as long as you don’t intend it to be racist.

Wallace also fact-checked Miller when he attempted to claim Trump had been “clear” that he disagreed with his supporters’ racist chant — repeating his own attacks on Omar and demanding she be sent back to Somalia.

“No, he was clear after the fact,” he responded. “He let it go on for 13 seconds and [it] was only when it diminished that he started talking again.” Wallace noted that Trump “said nothing there or in his tweet after that rally that indicated any concern about the chant.” Source: Think Progress

More of this please

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:56:25am

OK, I physically shuddered

And, then the rage engulfes me.
You just know there are literally hundreds of rich & powerful people that had knowledge of his tastes, if not his activities.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:57:31am

re: #309 Teddy’s Person

Little Stevie lost his safe space on Fox

More of this please

He’ll be back because Pete and the Fox and Friends Fascist Fucks will praise him.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 10:58:59am

re: #297 Teddy’s Person

I guess protecting and serving only applies to some people.

Said police officer was responding to a troll post claiming Rep. Ocasio-Cortez said “We pay soldiers too much.”

That would be a lie (amazing, a Trump supporter would lie about her, innit?)

Did U.S. Rep. Ocasio-Cortez Say ‘We Pay Soldiers Too Much’? (Goes to “facts have a liberal bias” Snopes)

A frequent publisher of junk news and inflammatory misinformation targeted U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in July 2019, falsely claiming that she had said the United States pays soldiers “way too much.”

On July 16, Taters Gonna Tate posted an article with the headline “Ocasio-Cortez on the Budget: ‘We Pay Soldiers Too Much,’” which reported that:

“… Alexandra [sic] Ocasio-Cortez is fairly well-known for spouting out little ‘ideas’ that most people would figure out were, well, dumb. This time, it seems the Baby Boss has been perusing the proposed budget sheet for the upcoming months, and had her little mind blown by what she saw, leading her to proclaim in an open session of Congress that : ‘Wow! We pay soldiers WAY too much!’”

As of July 2019, Ocasio-Cortez has never said this, either in a session of Congress or in any other forum. The source of the fabricated article, Taters Gonna Tate, is part of a network of sites and social media accounts operated by Christopher Blair, who produces a high volume of junk news and misinformation, much of it inflammatory, which he presents as “satire.”

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Old Liberal  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:00:43am

re: #303 Eclectic Cyborg

I think we can all agree Steven Millers “Principles of Western Civilization” can be summed up in about 14 words.

If there was a Democratic candidate who favored all the things I liked EXCEPT he courted and encouraged those who wanted to kill atheists, there is no way I would support such a person. Miller has some form of mental illness IMHO.

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:00:44am

re: #310 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, I physically shuddered

And, then the rage engulfes me.
You just know there are literally hundreds of rich & powerful people that had knowledge of his tastes, if not his activities.

I suspect there are a few, but not hundreds. Why do you think he had that island?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:00:53am

re: #312 Anymouse 🌹

Said police officer was responding to a troll post claiming Rep. Ocasio-Cortez said “We pay soldiers too much.”

That would be a lie (amazing, a Trump supporter would lie about her, innit?)

Did U.S. Rep. Ocasio-Cortez Say ‘We Pay Soldiers Too Much’? (Goes to “facts have a liberal bias” Snopes)

They’re such willing dopes who fall for any right wing memes against those they hate but they don’t believe the real things Trump says that demonstrate why Trump shouldn’t be trusted to run a port a potty.

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:01:36am

re: #312 Anymouse 🌹

He should lose his satire license.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:03:15am

re: #313 Old Liberal

If there was a Democratic candidate who favored all the things I liked EXCEPT he courted and encouraged those who wanted to kill atheists, there is no way I would support such a person. Miller has some form of mental illness IMHO.

Mental illness doesn’t make you a Nazi.

He is a racist because he chooses to be.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:04:13am

Yeah I’m going to agree with AM on this. Some people are just hateful assholes. Doesn’t mean they’re mentally ill.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:05:45am

re: #310 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, I physically shuddered

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And, then the rage engulfes me.
You just know there are literally hundreds of rich & powerful people that had knowledge of his tastes, if not his activities.

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makeitstop  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:06:00am

re: #318 HappyWarrior

Yeah I’m going to agree with AM on this. Some people are just hateful assholes. Doesn’t mean they’re mentally ill.

Could be both. Miller looks like the kind of dude who would torture small animals, and we know where that leads…

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:06:51am

re: #310 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, I physically shuddered

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And, then the rage engulfes me.
You just know there are literally hundreds of rich & powerful people that had knowledge of his tastes, if not his activities.

And used his “services”

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BigPapa  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:07:05am

re: #316 Belafon

He should lose his satire license.

Uses satire as a shield against obvious propaganda.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:07:34am

re: #320 makeitstop

Could be both. Miller looks like the kind of dude who would torture small animals, and we know where that leads…

True true. Any case, he’s omnipresent for everything vile about this administration.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:08:17am

re: #313 Old Liberal

If there was a Democratic candidate who favored all the things I liked EXCEPT he courted and encouraged those who wanted to kill atheists, there is no way I would support such a person. Miller has some form of mental illness IMHO.

Thanks for that. /s (not really snark)

re: #310 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, I physically shuddered

And, then the rage engulfes me.
You just know there are literally hundreds of rich & powerful people that had knowledge of his tastes, if not his activities.

re: #314 Belafon

I suspect there are a few, but not hundreds. Why do you think he had that island?

Having knowledge and attending are two different things. Plus there was Estein’s prior conviction.

Wait for conservatism to shift it’s narrative from “whddabout Clinton” to “he’s a Jew.”

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:09:07am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:10:43am

re: #324 Anymouse 🌹

Thanks for that. /s (not really snark)

Having knowledge and attending are two different things. Plus there was Estein’s prior conviction.

Wait for conservatism to shift it’s narrative from “whddabout Clinton” to “he’s a Jew.”

Nah they don’t come out and say he(Epstein) is a Jew. They’ll say something like “He’s an East Coast elite.” They never come out right explicitly with Antisemitic slurs but anyone who has been a subject of them can do the math.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:11:07am

re: #325 Belafon

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Party of small government y’all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:11:29am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:11:34am

re: #325 Belafon

Racists all over that thread, along with Qnuts.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:11:34am
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DodgerFan1988  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:11:47am

This cop is a clear and present danger.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:12:14am

re: #328 Backwoods_Sleuth

Emancipation Drive: Just the place to start up a new concentration camp.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:13:28am

re: #314 Belafon

I suspect there are a few, but not hundreds. Why do you think he had that island?

No, I would still think hundreds. That number doesn’t have to have direct knowledge of his activities. But, his tastes were most likely discussed within the prominent circle of people publicly socialized with. if trump banned him for his tastes, you know others knew.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:13:37am

re: #310 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, I physically shuddered

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And, then the rage engulfes me.
You just know there are literally hundreds of rich & powerful people that had knowledge of his tastes, if not his activities.

Sick motherfather.

Lock Short Eyes up for the rest of his life and force him into the general prison population.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:15:20am

re: #317 Anymouse 🌹

Mental illness doesn’t make you a Nazi.

He is a racist because he chooses to be.

Miller’s parents are slumlords here in Los Angeles.

They are just as racist as their piece of shit son is.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:15:24am

re: #326 HappyWarrior

Nah they don’t come out and say he(Epstein) is a Jew. They’ll say something like “He’s an East Coast elite.” They never come out right explicitly with Antisemitic slurs but anyone who has been a subject of them can do the math.

My money’s on “cosmopolitan.”

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:15:55am

re: #271 mmmirele

Not going to give a link for obvious reasons, but it looks like the Dumbest Man on the Internet is engaging in a 21st century version of phrenology.

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That reads like something a 17-year-old in St. Petersburg got a 5,000-ruble bonus for. It’s got all the hallmarks: Pseudoscience layered on reflexive hatred, a declarative & laughably hysteric headline, and pointless bomb-throwing intent.

I wonder what the Reich Wing would write about if they didn’t have teen floorshitters doing the heavy lifting overseas.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:16:51am

re: #330 Charles Johnson

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The internet radicalizes people sadly. It can also do the opposite too. I’ve honestly have become more aware of how interconnected the world is through LGF and people I’ve gotten to know through my family research. This morning I read an Irish guy whom is from Western Ireland’s memories of the moon landing.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:17:20am

re: #336 Teddy’s Person

My money’s on “cosmopolitan.”

Yeah.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:17:43am

re: #325 Belafon

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Five of nine members of the Wyoming Valley West School Board are deplorable.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:19:22am

re: #331 DodgerFan1988

This cop is a clear and present danger.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:19:51am

The world is bigger than our borders than ever. Yet we are seeing a huge surge in tribalist nationalism.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:21:35am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:22:52am

re: #336 Teddy’s Person

My money’s on “cosmopolitan.”

They’ve already used that one.

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BigPapa  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:23:09am

re: #343 Teddy’s Person

I have a feeling he’ll leave on a plane one way no matter what, when the heat is coming on.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:23:41am

re: #343 Teddy’s Person

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I just imagine him in a rage typing MAGA. In fact, I imagine all his tweets that way.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:24:10am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:25:03am

Time to call it a day. Up early for work tomorrow. Have a good one, Lizards.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:25:20am

good fucking grief

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:26:11am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah it is impossible because you just want to spread hate because you’re a loser who wishes he was in the SS instead of being an American.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:26:21am

re: #325 Belafon

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:26:24am

re: #343 Teddy’s Person

Ms. Navarro-Cárdenas, you cannot fix the Republican Party.

You need to leave; already too many of your compatriots are calling you a RINO or worse.

You’ve also been told by Republican voters to “go back to your country.” As long as you remain in the GOP, you continue to support their policies of racism and hate (which you helped build and won’t admit like so many other so-called never-Trumpers).

Perhaps it’s Stockholm Syndrome.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:26:31am
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makeitstop  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:26:45am

re: #342 HappyWarrior

The world is bigger than our borders than ever. Yet we are seeing a huge surge in tribalist nationalism.

That’s fear hard at work. Many people are deathly afraid of what they don’t understand, and when they make no effort at all to understand that’s when bigotry and tribalism take over.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:27:04am

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

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Funny because your side loved calling Obama a racist. Fuck off, Spencer’s errand bro.

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BigPapa  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:27:06am

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

Racism. The left doesn’t want to hear racism.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:28:42am

re: #341 Anymouse 🌹

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It’s only a matter of time before that crooked cop decides that Jesus told him to run for Congress as a Republican and he’ll get elected.

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:29:12am

re: #352 Anymouse 🌹

Ms. Navarro-Cárdenas, you cannot fix the Republican Party.

You need to leave; already too many of your compatriots are calling you a RINO or worse.

You’ve also been told by Republican voters to “go back to your country.” As long as you remain in the GOP, you continue to support their policies of racism and hate (which you helped build and won’t admit like so many other so-called never-Trumpers).

Perhaps it’s Stockholm Syndrome.

If she leaves the Republican party, she will no longer be on CNN, nor have any op-eds she writes accepted, nor will she quoted by people who use her as a counter.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:29:12am

re: #354 makeitstop

That’s fear hard at work. Many people are deathly afraid of what they don’t understand, and when they make no effort at all to understand that’s when bigotry and tribalism take over.

Yep.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:29:25am

re: #352 Anymouse 🌹

Ms. Navarro-Cárdenas, you cannot fix the Republican Party.

You need to leave; already too many of your compatriots are calling you a RINO or worse.

You’ve also been told by Republican voters to “go back to your country.” As long as you remain in the GOP, you continue to support their policies of racism and hate (which you helped build and won’t admit like so many other so-called never-Trumpers).

Perhaps it’s Stockholm Syndrome.

I thought she was one of the first never-Trumpers to leave the GOP.

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Old Liberal  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:32:34am

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

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Leftists don’t want to hear that all blacks are criminals, that all Mexicans are rapists, that all gays are perverts, that all poor people are lazy. So we call those true generalizations “racist”. The reactionaries believe these statements to be true.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:32:35am

And the racists are after her in that thread, too.

Ms. Navarro-Cárdenas holds herself out as some principled conservative. There is no such thing.

She’s so close she can’t see the forest for the trees. She doesn’t see her own party hates her.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:32:54am

re: #360 Teddy’s Person

I thought she was one of the first never-Trumpers to leave the GOP.

A quick google search tells me I’m wrong.

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BigPapa  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:33:54am

I just saw this from yesterday, like Amazeballs WTF Holy Moly:
Trump Employs an Old Tactic: Using Race for Gain

For the fourth season of “The Apprentice,” Donald J. Trump searched for a gimmick to bolster ratings. His idea was simple if explosive — pit an all-white team against an all-black team.

He sounded enthusiastic during his appearance on Mr. Stern’s show in 2005. Mr. Stern asked if there would be both light-skinned and dark-skinned contestants on the black team and Mr. Trump said it would be an “assortment.” As for the white team, Mr. Trump said it should include all blonds.

Even as he egged him on, Mr. Stern expressed more concern about the ramifications than Mr. Trump. “Wouldn’t that set off a racial war in this country?” he asked.

“See, actually, I don’t think it would,” Mr. Trump replied. “I think that it would be handled very beautifully by me. Because, as you know, I’m very diplomatic.”

Mr. Stern agreed. “I gotta tell you something, on some level it’s wrong,” he went on. “But I like it. I like it. I would watch.”

“You’d have to,” Ms. Quivers replied, “because you’d want to know when the riot starts.”

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lawhawk  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:34:31am

re: #216 Teddy’s Person

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:35:15am

re: #360 Teddy’s Person

I thought she was one of the first never-Trumpers to leave the GOP.

Ans was critical early on. I’m not a fan of the eNever Trumpers but she did advocate for HRCs election as well not merely stopping Trump.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:35:16am

re: #362 Anymouse 🌹

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And the racists are after her in that thread, too.

Ms. Navarro-Cárdenas holds herself out as some principled conservative. There is no such thing.

She’s so close she can’t see the forest for the trees. She doesn’t see her own party hates her.

This is the Republican Party Ana.

Get out of it while you still can!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:36:02am

re: #367 Joe Bacon 🌹

This is the Republican Party Ana.

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Get out of it while you still can!

What … what the actual BEJESUSING FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE.

[Flips table, lights on fire.]

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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:36:18am

re: #365 lawhawk

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Natasha Rothwell for the WIN!!

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A Mom Anon  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:36:19am

re: #270 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

White people in charge of All The Things and everyone else can fuck off and die in the most painful way possible. You forgot that one.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:37:10am

re: #366 HappyWarrior

Ans was critical early on. I’m not a fan of the eNever Trumpers but she did advocate for HRCs election as well not merely stopping Trump.

I must have conflated her support of HRC with leaving the GOP.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:37:18am

re: #367 Joe Bacon 🌹

This is the Republican Party Ana.

[Embedded content]

Get out of it while you still can!

That’s the thing. Even the blue state GOPs which were once a little more moderate than the red state ones are getting more Trump like.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:37:39am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:37:59am

re: #368 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

What … what the actual BEJESUSING FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE.

[Flips table, lights on fire.]

That’s the state party of a certain former lizard who thought he had to stay in it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:39:32am

re: #373 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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There wasn’t legal in 1845, just immigrants, so thanks for showing your privilege. Actual Irish people despise Irish Americans like you who forget that fact. Ireland itself is an inclusive place.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:39:36am

re: #374 HappyWarrior

That’s the state party of a certain former lizard who thought he had to stay in it.

If an official Democratic Party page posted something like that, there would be literal wingnut riots in the streets. Somebody would probably actually die over it. But it’s OK if you’re a Republican, I guess.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:40:45am

re: #363 Teddy’s Person

A quick google search tells me I’m wrong.

Now she’s getting fat-shamed for being shaped like “gasp” an average woman.

She also inadvertently gave the lemmings a talking point. By saying that 63 million people would pay for Trump to leave, they are also claiming “see, get out of the country is not racist.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:41:10am

re: #365 lawhawk

only crate non-white dogs

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:41:43am

This is why I refuse to self-scan my goods at the store.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:41:55am

re: #374 HappyWarrior

That’s the state party of a certain former lizard who thought he had to stay in it.

Yeah the one who slandered my son and said he was glad he died in Iraq.

What a real fucking Xtian that thing is!

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:42:20am

re: #377 Anymouse 🌹

Now she’s getting fat-shamed for being shaped like “gasp” an average woman.

She also inadvertently gave the lemmings a talking point. By saying that 63 million people would pay for Trump to leave, they are also claiming “see, get out of the country is not racist.”

The OK sign isn’t racists when I hold it up to mean OK. He’s still being racist, no matter what Trump tries to say.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:42:38am

re: #380 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yeah the one who slandered my son and said he was glad he died in Iraq.

What a real fucking Xtian that thing is!

Yep.

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:43:15am

re: #379 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This is why I refuse to self-scan my goods at the store.

Robots will stock trucks, the trucks will drive themselves, robots will unload trucks, and stock the shelves.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:44:06am

re: #374 HappyWarrior

That’s the state party of a certain former lizard who thought he had to stay in it.

If it’s who I think you’re writing about (saying he had to stay in because of his family), I imagine he’s all in on the racism and misogamy and everything else which defines Movement Conservatism.

He was just rationalising staying in the GOP because introspection would reveal himself to be a misogynist and racist.

Some people can do that introspection and change. Many can’t.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:44:07am

re: #383 Belafon

Robots will stock trucks, the trucks will drive themselves, robots will unload trucks, and stock the shelves.

Kurt Vonnegut wanted us about this in Player Piano!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:44:17am

Actual illegal immigrants. Drumpf, Friedrich. No one suggest his grandson go back when he called us a laughingstock and praised dictators.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:44:19am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:44:43am

re: #384 Anymouse 🌹

If it’s who I think you’re writing about (saying he had to stay in because of his family), I imagine he’s all in on the racism and misogamy and everything else which defines Movement Conservatism.

He was just rationalising staying in the GOP because introspection would reveal himself to be a misogynist and racist.

Some people can do that introspection and change. Many can’t.

I’m being intentionally snarky.

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lawhawk  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:45:12am

re: #379 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

What’ll really be disruptive is that AI will take over areas that were previously white collar jobs - whether it’s accounting, legal, tax, or other service sector jobs.

Manufacturing is already highly automated - and that’ll get more so. Transportation will increasingly get automated. Truckers are another industry that will see robots replace them. Walmart is toying with robots doing cleanup and alerting to spills. We’ll see them do more with shelf stocking in coming years.

It’s all coming - and the millionaire class thinks that they’re insulated from the change as they continue to consolidate wealth while everyone else is struggling.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:45:52am

re: #373 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“come to America legally” is such bullshit.

They just showed up Bill. They just showed up.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:46:15am

12:30 Mythical Time, 70°F and overcast.

forecast.weather.gov

On tap for our usual random severe thunderstorms.

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Belafon  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:46:44am

re: #390 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

“come to America legally” is such bullshit.

They just showed up Bill. They just showed up.

“Who did the Puritans show their immigration documents to?”

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Teddy's Person  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:47:23am

re: #383 Belafon

Robots will stock trucks, the trucks will drive themselves, robots will unload trucks, and stock the shelves.

And when most people don’t have money to buy things, robots will become obsolete.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:47:54am

re: #390 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

“come to America legally” is such bullshit.

They just showed up Bill. They just showed up.

I prefer we close borders on money flowing out of the country to tax havens. I really believe money hoarding is a disorder, similar to any other hoarding disorder.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:48:34am

re: #383 Belafon

Robots will stock trucks, the trucks will drive themselves, robots will unload trucks, and stock the shelves.

And the cycle completes when the robots do the shopping, purchasing, and consumption as well.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:49:27am

re: #390 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

“come to America legally” is such bullshit.

They just showed up Bill. They just showed up.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:50:21am

re: #389 lawhawk

What’ll really be disruptive is that AI will take over areas that were previously white collar jobs - whether it’s accounting, legal, tax, or other service sector jobs.

Manufacturing is already highly automated - and that’ll get more so. Transportation will increasingly get automated. Truckers are another industry that will see robots replace them. Walmart is toying with robots doing cleanup and alerting to spills. We’ll see them do more with shelf stocking in coming years.

It’s all coming - and the millionaire class thinks that they’re insulated from the change as they continue to consolidate wealth while everyone else is struggling.

Gary Oldman explains why graffiti is good for the world!
Clean up in Aisle 1!

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:51:14am
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lawhawk  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:52:14am

re: #390 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

“come to America legally” is such bullshit.

They just showed up Bill. They just showed up.

Ellis Island became a thing because the nation decided to throttle immigration. Those in power didn’t want to see that power diminished so they started to reduce immigration and make it tougher to get in.

Before that, if you had a ticket to come, you got in. If you were brought here in chains, you had no control over that either.

And in all those cases, those who came here displaced the Native Americans who were here before any Europeans came ashore.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:52:43am

re: #383 Belafon

Robots will stock trucks, the trucks will drive themselves, robots will unload trucks, and stock the shelves.

But they won’t buy the crap the store sells.

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lawhawk  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:54:04am

re: #397 Feline Fearless Leader

One of Gary’s great roles as Zorg in the Fifth Element.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:59:37am

“SJW ruined comic books!”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 21, 2019 • 11:59:48am

re: #383 Belafon

Robots will stock trucks, the trucks will drive themselves, robots will unload trucks, and stock the shelves.

My brother recently became an ‘over the road’ truck driver. And, the system the delivers the companies required routes on several occasions this spring/early summer would have sent unmanned trucks down flooded out highways.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 21, 2019 • 12:03:05pm

re: #402 DodgerFan1988

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“SJW ruined comic books!”

Haha. Well played.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 21, 2019 • 12:03:34pm

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

MILLER: The term ‘racist’ has become a label that’s deployed to suppress speech the left doesn’t want to hear

The term is often overused, but what Trump had to say about our Congresswomen was “racist” in its clear and narrow textbook definition

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sagehen  Jul 21, 2019 • 12:17:40pm

re: #389 lawhawk

It’s all coming - and the millionaire class thinks that they’re insulated from the change as they continue to consolidate wealth while everyone else is struggling.

The Pitchforks Are Coming… For Us Plutocrats
By NICK HANAUER

If we don’t do something to fix the glaring inequities in this economy, the pitchforks are going to come for us. No society can sustain this kind of rising inequality. In fact, there is no example in human history where wealth accumulated like this and the pitchforks didn’t eventually come out. You show me a highly unequal society, and I will show you a police state. Or an uprising. There are no counterexamples. None. It’s not if, it’s when.

Here’s what I say to you: You’re living in a dream world. What everyone wants to believe is that when things reach a tipping point and go from being merely crappy for the masses to dangerous and socially destabilizing, that we’re somehow going to know about that shift ahead of time. Any student of history knows that’s not the way it happens. Revolutions, like bankruptcies, come gradually, and then suddenly. One day, somebody sets himself on fire, then thousands of people are in the streets, and before you know it, the country is burning. And then there’s no time for us to get to the airport and jump on our Gulfstream Vs and fly to New Zealand. That’s the way it always happens. If inequality keeps rising as it has been, eventually it will happen. We will not be able to predict when, and it will be terrible—for everybody. But especially for us.

The most ironic thing about rising inequality is how completely unnecessary and self-defeating it is. If we do something about it, if we adjust our policies in the way that, say, Franklin D. Roosevelt did during the Great Depression—so that we help the 99 percent and preempt the revolutionaries and crazies, the ones with the pitchforks—that will be the best thing possible for us rich folks, too. It’s not just that we’ll escape with our lives; it’s that we’ll most certainly get even richer.


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