The television event of the summer has everything America loves: long-winded political testimony, close-up shots of aging white men, and the reminder that our president may have obstructed an investigation into foreign election interference!
“I defend unborn life,” says @KellyannePolls.
“What about born life?” asks a reporter amid questions about @TheJusticeDept bringing back death penalty. pic.twitter.com/yqI4pTvmMn— Steve Herman (@W7VOA) July 25, 2019
re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth
Nailed it. I had that exact thought this morning. Pro life my fucking ass.
Pro white christian life maybe.
On @FoxNews, they’re having a lot of fun age-shaming Robert Mueller, knowing they worship the oldest president in history who just described the US Military as the “infantroopen.” #FuckYourOptics
— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) July 25, 2019
re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth
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“lawmarkers” — Trump is having some trouble today pic.twitter.com/1DbImKL4RO
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 25, 2019
re: #8 Charles Johnson
But Mueller didn’t go all Howard Beale and say:
I’m mad as hell and I can’t say it any clearer than I can’t indict because of DOJ policy so Congress has to impeach the motherfucker.
Rather, the same fuckers who ignore Trump’s perpetual word salad and incoherence, were complaining that Mueller looked tired, worn out, etc.
re: #8 Charles Johnson
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re: #9 lawhawk
I’m mad as hell and I can’t take Trump anymore.
re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg
Infantroopen sounds very Hitler-ish, no?
Next, he’ll start calling the Secret Service the SS.
“I tell you folks, I just love these guys in the SS. Always keeping me safe. Bigly heroes.”
It’s difficult not to conclude that the reason they’re blocking election security bills is because they’re counting on Russian interference to help them win.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 25, 2019
re: #8 Charles Johnson
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re: #9 lawhawk
Everything is reviewed as if it was a tv show now in the Age of Trump. Generals have to look like they just came from Central Casting. Everyone is just playing a part and when they don’t live up to the expectations of their character they get panned.
re: #15 Skip Intro
Everything is reviewed as if it was a tv show now in the Age of Trump. Generals have to look like they just came from Central Casting. Everyone is just playing a part and when they don’t live up to the expectations of their character they get panned.
That’s the only organizational model he knows.
re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg
Nailed it. I had that exact thought this morning. Pro life my fucking ass.
Pro white christian life maybe.
I can understand the argument for the death penalty in that the death row inmate has been convicted of the crime and therefore it is their own actions that resulted in their situation.
And if you believe that a fetus is the same as a living breathing person (I don’t), an abortion would be the same as an innocent person being killed.
Personally, I think the death penalty is just bad policy and doesn’t actually solve the problems it allegedly address.
re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg
That’s the only organizational model he knows.
The media loves it. It’s their model too.
And “lawmarkers!”https://t.co/b3izMoTnb1 https://t.co/zmafWPMksD
— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) July 25, 2019
JUST IN: McConnell blocks two election security bills after Mueller warns of election meddling in 2020 https://t.co/H9leErmTFN pic.twitter.com/TqqMW909ic
— The Hill (@thehill) July 25, 2019
The UK: now the same temperature as hell, but with someone more morally dubious in charge… pic.twitter.com/Vx013TNKcW
— Larry the Cat (@Number10cat) July 25, 2019
And to think Boris Johnson thought these people were there to see him.
(Pic @TolgaAkmen) pic.twitter.com/f3E6cFC0ax— Larry the Cat (@Number10cat) July 25, 2019
More of this please
‘Putin’s Mitch’ billboard grabs attention on Interstate 65
HART COUNTY, Ky.- A new billboard along I-65 in Hart County is raising some eyebrows.
The sign reads, “Putin’s Mitch” and features a photo of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.
Mad Dog Political Action Committee paid for the sign and another anti-McConnell sign elsewhere.
“That’s what our campaign is about, it’s about putting up billboards that bring awareness to some of these issues directly to the people of Kentucky,” said Claude Taylor, chairman of Mad Dog PAC.
Mad Dog is trying to raise attention to a company owned-in-part by sanctioned Russian oligarch, Oleg Deripaska, who is investing millions of dollars into Braidy Industries, an aluminum manufacturer in Ashland, Ky. Deripaska has close ties with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Infantroopen…I have the name for my fantasy football team this year.
re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg
Fox News doing what Fox News does:
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re: #5 HappyWarrior
Always projecting over there. Don’t forget their Reagan worship too. Reagan who thought he liberated a death camp.
not the real-life Reagan, just the rose-tinted-memories-of-morning-in-America Reagan
Mueller acted like a man terrified to state the obvious. The question remains: Why?https://t.co/cq7VT4uwhy <— My latest for the Globe and Mail
— Sarah Kendzior (@sarahkendzior) July 25, 2019
The public has the right to know whether its own government constitutes a threat to national security and if the president is complicit in a crime. Testifying to Congress was Mr. Mueller’s patriotic obligation, and he should not have required a subpoena to show up. His question-dodging mirrored the reticence of his probe: he did not want to indict anyone even when their offences were blatant, and he did not want to explain why. It is disconcerting that one of the few things Mr. Mueller would confirm is that Americans are not safe.
Mr. Mueller decided not to decide, but in the immortal words of Rush, “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.” His bad choice could mean that Americans lose their own free will in the years to come.
Here is the full unedited clip with the context that Empty Shell Marco hates.https://t.co/QAq4EqTWUY
— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) July 25, 2019
re: #30 gocart mozart
Especially as out own FBI tells us that Right-Wing, White Supremacist terrorism is the no. 1 terror threat in our country.
re: #32 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Especially as out own FBI tells us that Right-Wing, White Supremacist terrorism is the no. 1 terror threat in our country.
And it’s going continue to be as long as we have feckless cowards like Rubio around.
re: #33 HappyWarrior
And it’s going continue to be as long as we have feckless cowards like Rubio around.
the GOP threw hissy fits when the FBI tried to publish that report under Obama
Wow. Trump is considering imposing a travel ban against Guatemala after its courts struck down a deal w/the US to serve as a “safe third party” country, which would’ve obligated migrants passing thru Guatemala to seek protection there instead of the US.https://t.co/9yf1xNcyXG
— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) July 25, 2019
re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
the GOP threw hissy fits when the FBI tried to publish that report under Obama
Yeah they don’t want the truth out there.
Look at this! Some of you may be thinking, “That’s my kind of party!” In fact, it’s a drawing of some of the mysterious peoples once believed to live in distant lands, and added on a blank page of the Arnstein Bible.https://t.co/bDsawaa8Zl pic.twitter.com/G31w5YnxR6
— Medieval Manuscripts (@BLMedieval) July 25, 2019
re: #35 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Wow. Trump is considering imposing a travel ban against Guatemala after its courts struck down a deal w/the US to serve as a “safe third party” country, which would’ve obligated migrants passing thru Guatemala to seek protection there instead of the US.
wimp move. let’s just invade them
re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth
What about the life of children at the Southern border? Or the lives of Brown migrants?
Why do reporters talk to Conway anyways? I don’t get it. I don’t recall President Obama having all these random spokespersons pushing his agenda,
re: #30 gocart mozart
There’s nothing controversial about Rep Omar’s comment.
re: #30 gocart mozart
Is there a transcript anywhere? I prefer to read, vs watching videos.
re: #29 Interesting Times
For the record, Globe and Mail is a CANADIAN newspaper.
wtf is this https://t.co/YdeR6srzPL
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 25, 2019
re: #44 Charles Johnson
He wants a fucking totalitarian police state.
re: #45 Eclectic Cyborg
He wants a fucking totalitarian police state.
With himself in charge permanently. He’s anti democratic.
re: #44 Charles Johnson
Over weekend, there were videos showing several people throwing water at cops while they were either doing vehicle stops, or just walking along in several parts of NYC.
The NY PBA went ballistic and demanded all people obey the cops.
The reality is that those folks engaged in assaults and a bunch have already been arrested. De Blasio has already spoken out about this.
But what Trump wants is fealty and obedience and to “show” that he’s a law and order guy even as he’s breaking every kind of norm and law imaginable.
”To spend hours of airtime and write hundreds of print and online reports pontificating about the “optics” of Mueller’s performance — when he confirmed that President Trump accepted help from a hostile foreign power and lied about it, that he lied when he https://t.co/1Jj6jFxdGK
— Mimi Rocah (@Mimirocah1) July 25, 2019
“The ‘failure’ is not of a prosecutor who found the facts but might be ill equipped to make the political case, but instead, of a country that won’t read his report and a media obsessed with scoring contests rather than focusing on the damning facts at issue.”
— Mimi Rocah (@Mimirocah1) July 25, 2019
.@joshglick how’s this.
Quoting #RBG pic.twitter.com/lUA3l3pgAh— Vincent D’Onofrio (@vincentdonofrio) July 25, 2019
re: #13 Charles Johnson
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It’s difficult not to conclude that the reason they’re blocking election security bills is because they’re counting on Russian interference to help them win.
And yet neither Rep. Don Beyer nor any other Democratic congressman is saying so.
re: #13 Charles Johnson
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— aagcobb (@aagcobb1) July 25, 2019
This is incredibly wacky, and VERY reminiscent of right wing tactics. Tulsi Gabbard is the Ron Paul of 2019. https://t.co/WzZR1P0m6b
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 25, 2019
re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth
“To spend hours of airtime and write hundreds of print and online reports pontificating about the “optics” of Mueller’s performance — when he confirmed that President Trump accepted help from a hostile foreign power and lied about it…
…is perfectly fitting when dealing with a former reality TV star and WWF host.
We live in the New Media Reality.
It is only about the lies and crimes you can get away with.
It was always like that to an extent, but now almost any pretense of decorum
has been abandoned.
re: #53 NO SMOCKING GUN!
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re: #56 HappyWarrior
I may dislike her more than Sanders.
I do. She’s an active agent for the Bashar al-Assad dictatorship.
re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg
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Thinking about and selecting your words carefully is stumbling now. He was handcuffed as to what he could say, and I am sure had to stop himself mid-sentence a few time to stay within bounds.
And speaking of irony/media malfeasance—this pic they’re using for the death penalty story is from a meeting about First Step (This Act may be cited as the “Formerly Incarcerated Reenter Society Transformed Safely Transitioning Every Person Act” or the “FIRST STEP Act”.)
I had to track it since it includes both of my feckless senators.
U.S. to Resume Executions of Death-Row Inmates https://t.co/eicsc6H8YL
— Zolan Kanno-Youngs (@KannoYoungs) July 25, 2019
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I do. She’s an active agent for the Bashar al-Assad dictatorship.
Yes. That.
re: #60 Eventual Carrion
Thinking about and selecting your words carefully is stumbling now. He was handcuffed as to what he could say, and I am sure had to stop himself mid-sentence a few time to stay within bounds.
He thinks before he talks. FNC is used to morons like Trump and their hacks who talk before thinking.
re: #48 lawhawk
Over weekend, there were videos showing several people throwing water at cops while they were either doing vehicle stops, or just walking along in several parts of NYC.
The NY PBA went ballistic and demanded all people obey the cops.
The reality is that those folks engaged in assaults and a bunch have already been arrested. De Blasio has already spoken out about this.
But what Trump wants is fealty and obedience and to “show” that he’s a law and order guy even as he’s breaking every kind of norm and law imaginable.
The cops who walked it off were basically told that they didn’t deserve to be cops either since they just ‘took it’. Because again, deescalation is a four-letter word to cops.
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Susan Collins very concerned. Very concerned. https://t.co/fT4AqZ8Xhd
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) July 25, 2019
re: #33 HappyWarrior
And it’s going continue to be as long as we have feckless cowards like Rubio around.
The day is coming when a racist wingnut tells Marco to go back to where he came from.
As the son/grandson of Cuban refugees, I hate that particular brand of racism more than just about any form of racism. Yet, there is part of me that hopes someone gets it on video when Rubio and/or Cruz are told to go back from whence they came.
The situation we find ourselves in is that, while it’s patently fucking obvious that Trump broke the law multiple times in such a way that, if Obama did it, he’d have been impeached, convicted, removed from office, indicted, convicted, and be serving sentence RIGHT NOW, 1/3 of America either doesn’t believe it happened or likes that it happened, and another 10% know it happened and know it’s illegal but don’t mind as long as there are tax cuts for the rich, judges who will always find for the powerful over the powerless, and regulations that protect everyone from corporate rapacity eliminated. Then there’s ANOTHER 10% who are disengaged from the news and easily convinced to take the easy road of blaming both sides.
We keep looking for the Deus ex machina that will save us. Bob Mueller was never going to save us because he was precluded from finding that the President committed crimes. That means the Mueller Report was never going to save us. Mueller’s testimony was never going to save us.
WRT the investigative power of Congress, it was always inevitable that Trump would pour sand in the gears. Because Trump has no shame nor scruples, and because he only hires people with no shame, his lawyers will make stupid, ridiculous arguments that still need to be adjudicated. Delay, delay, delay. So people say, “But with an Impeachment Inquiry, the House gets more investigative power!” Another Deus ex Machina, as if Trump won’t challenge all of THAT, too.
And there are many who cry for impeachment, which Trump clearly deserves. But there’s essentially NO likelihood he’ll be convicted in the Senate. The GOP doesn’t care. And if Articles are approved in the House, but Trump isn’t convicted in the Senate, that 10% of America between the two sides, the ones who don’t pay attention, will just think the whole thing was just a partisan exercise.
So, although clearly he deserves to be impeached, convicted, and removed from office before dying in disgrace in prison, I don’t see any way of accomplishing that. This leaves ONLY the election, and there’s no Deus ex machina there, either. We have to make our best estimate of who can beat Trump and how. We have to register as many people as possible, and we need to turn them out to vote. That, and that alone will save us.
re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth
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sometimes at night i head rustling and check for bears but usually it’s just hell deer pic.twitter.com/qxVHH9vizN
— moth dad ➡️ gone hiking (@innesmck) July 25, 2019
re: #66 KGxvi
The day is coming when a racist wingnut tells Marco to go back to where he came from.
As the son/grandson of Cuban refugees, I hate that particular brand of racism more than just about any form of racism. Yet, there is part of me that hopes someone gets it on video when Rubio and/or Cruz are told to go back from whence they came.
It will the second they get on Trump’s bad side. But yeah I’m waiting for Marco and Ted to get it and then maybe just maybe they’ll realize some shit.
re: #66 KGxvi
The day is coming when a racist wingnut tells Marco to go back to where he came from.
As the son/grandson of Cuban refugees, I hate that particular brand of racism more than just about any form of racism. Yet, there is part of me that hopes someone gets it on video when Rubio and/or Cruz are told to go back from whence they came.
It’s a form of GMFY
Random thought…
If Putin is really interested in fucking with American democracy, wouldn’t the play in this election be to “leak” documents showing that Trump knew and accepted foreign help in 2016? Especially if it showed they also helped certain Republicans in other races?
Like is there anything that would throw 2020 into more chaos than that? Creating a Mexican stand off between Dems, the GOP, and Trump?
re: #72 KGxvi
Random thought…
If Putin is really interested in fucking with American democracy, wouldn’t the play in this election be to “leak” documents showing that Trump knew and accepted foreign help in 2016? Especially if it showed they also helped certain Republicans in other races?
Like is there anything that would throw 2020 into more chaos than that? Creating a Mexican stand off between Dems, the GOP, and Trump?
Could well be.
re: #67 Blind Frog Belly White
The situation we find ourselves in is that, while it’s patently fucking obvious that Trump broke the law multiple times in such a way that, if Obama did it, he’d have been impeached, convicted, removed from office, indicted, convicted, and be serving sentence RIGHT NOW…
Please, you can spend the next year going on about what if Obama had/had not done something that Trump has gotten away with or not been faulted for failing to do…
We do not need a Mueller Report. Trump’s actions conducted blatantly and in public are enough to warrant impeachment and convictions on grounds of conflict of interest, violations of the Emoluments Clause and dereliction of duty through incompetence.
Hypothetical situation: Obama is still the President. GOP has the House but Dems have a Senate majority.
Obama has done a bunch of really shady shit like Trump has and there’s a lengthy Mueller type report detailing all of it. Obviously, the GOP House would Impeach in a heartbeat.
But would the Democratic Senate protect Obama or would they accept that given the evidence they should vote to impeach and remove him?
re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg
Hypothetical situation: Obama is still the President. GOP has the House but Dems have a Senate majority.
Obama has done a bunch of really shady shit like Trump has and there’s a lengthy Mueller type report detailing all of it. Obviously, the GOP House would Impeach in a heartbeat.
But would the Democratic Senate protect Obama or would they accept that given the evidence they should vote to impeach and remove him?
Like to think they’d do the right thing. I accept that Clinton perjured himself on Lewinsky but I don’t think the matter merited a special counsel either.
re: #48 lawhawk
Over weekend, there were videos showing several people throwing water at cops while they were either doing vehicle stops, or just walking along in several parts of NYC.
The NY PBA went ballistic and demanded all people obey the cops.
The reality is that those folks engaged in assaults and a bunch have already been arrested. De Blasio has already spoken out about this.
But what Trump wants is fealty and obedience and to “show” that he’s a law and order guy even as he’s breaking every kind of norm and law imaginable.
A lot of police forces seem to have lost the idea of who they are really supposed to be serving and protecting.
re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Please, you can spend the next year going on about what if Obama had/had not done something that Trump has gotten away with or not been faulted for failing to do…
We do not need a Mueller Report. Trump’s actions conducted blatantly and in public are enough to warrant impeachment and convictions on grounds of conflict of interest, violations of the Emoluments Clause and dereliction of duty through incompetence.
Show me how that happens. Because I don’t see a path to it.
re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg
Hypothetical situation: Obama is still the President. GOP has the House but Dems have a Senate majority.
Obama has done a bunch of really shady shit like Trump has and there’s a lengthy Mueller type report detailing all of it. Obviously, the GOP House would Impeach in a heartbeat.
But would the Democratic Senate protect Obama or would they accept that given the evidence they should vote to impeach and remove him?
A cynical answer would be that in 1996, Senate Democrats protected Clinton. But there were also a few Republicans who voted to acquit on one of the charges.
The question, is two fold, I think… how many House Dems would vote in favor of how many articles of impeachment? And, assuming the evidence is credible, how many Senate Dems would vote to convict on at least one article?
re: #77 Feline Fearless Leader
A lot of police forces seem to have lost the idea of who they are really supposed to be serving and protecting.
They’re encouraged to be hostile towards any public utterance that isn’t praise.
re: #79 KGxvi
A cynical answer would be that in 1996, Senate Democrats protected Clinton. But there were also a few Republicans who voted to acquit on one of the charges.
The question, is two fold, I think… how many House Dems would vote in favor of how many articles of impeachment? And, assuming the evidence is credible, how many Senate Dems would vote to convict on at least one article?
I’m just glad we haven’t had a brazenly corrupt Democratic President in my lifetime.
#BREAKING Palestinian president says to end agreements with Israel pic.twitter.com/wa2Ob8QDan
— AFP news agency (@AFP) July 25, 2019
but Jared has a plan!!11!!
re: #81 HappyWarrior
I’m just glad we haven’t had a brazenly corrupt Democratic President in my lifetime.
And I really hope we never do.
re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg
Hypothetical situation: Obama is still the President. GOP has the House but Dems have a Senate majority.
Obama has done a bunch of really shady shit like Trump has and there’s a lengthy Mueller type report detailing all of it. Obviously, the GOP House would Impeach in a heartbeat.
But would the Democratic Senate protect Obama or would they accept that given the evidence they should vote to impeach and remove him?
We’ve already done that test, to some extent. Some Democrats in the House voted for the Articles of Impeachment against Clinton and some Democrats in the Senate voted guilty. Clinton’s impeachment came at the end of an unrelated investigation, where it was known AT THE TIME the investigators were working with Right Wing groups to find dirt.
Trump’s crimes are far more serious, and more clearly a violation of his oath. In the hypothetical where Obama did this, I think you’d have enough Democrats in the Senate to convict.
re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth
That’s…….not good.
OK. Up early tomorrow. Have a good rest of the day, Lizards.
Then leave. https://t.co/5yyigC2lvh
— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) July 25, 2019
re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth
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This isn’t good. This is exactly what happens when you put your unqualified son in law in charge of something like this.
re: #78 Blind Frog Belly White
Show me how that happens. Because I don’t see a path to it.
I’m in the camp that says articles of impeachment should be wide ranging. Not only because Trump has committed so many high crimes and misdemeanors but so that the public sees them, and so that Republicans are forced to vote on whether they support them. My running (off the top of my head) list of articles of impeachment would be:
1. conspiracy to defraud the US (Russian collusion in the 2016 election)
2. campaign finance violations/fraud (payments to shut up mistresses)
3-12. obstruction of justice (one for each instance in the Mueller Report)
13. abuse of office (border wall national emergency)
14. abuse of office (Saudi Arabia weapons sales national emergency)
15. domestic emoluments
16. foreign emoluments
17. crimes against humanity (refugee camps at the border)
18. nepotism
19. contempt of Congress (failing to respond to valid subpoenas)
20. graft/corruption (a catch all)
21. abuse of the legal system (lying to the courts in several cases from the Muslim ban to the census case)
22. conduct unbecoming (general racism, etc)
I’m sure given time, I can come up with more. That’s probably the most aggressive form of impeachment, and probably not anywhere near anything we would get… but if I were in the House, that’s what I’d be arguing for.
Milwaukee County Zoo welcomes ‘adorable and perfect’ red panda cub: https://t.co/UY0Rj4ezBW
— WTVC NewsChannel 9 (@newschannelnine) July 25, 2019
no one:
absolutely no body:
me: https://t.co/KNqQgGdEnv— darth™ (@darth) July 25, 2019
The talking points are collapsing. Mueller is corrupt, feeble, but he exonerated Trump and it’s over. This is laughably unsupportable.
— Ryan King (@BigPapa1849) July 25, 2019
re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Caption this, wrong answers only. pic.twitter.com/7HZ4Qh40ZJ
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) July 25, 2019
re: #94 lawhawk
Set photo from the Shawshank Redemption remake
re: #92 BigPapa
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All they need is the public to believe the latter. And even not entirely, they can get by if the public thinks that while Trump’s actions were questionable or possibly even corrupt, they weren’t criminal and thus he was “exonerated.”
re: #56 HappyWarrior
I may dislike her more than Sanders.
I definitely dislike her more than Sanders. Sanders would just be annoying. She’s dangerous.
2. Look at the baby in the stable next door trying to stretch out her trunk to say hello to baby Ziwadi! 😍
Learn More: @SheldrickTrust pic.twitter.com/PwvqC4bEto— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) July 25, 2019
Remember when Trump boasted about his amazing ability to bring peace to the Middle East, and said it would be easy? Then put Jared Kushner in charge of it? Welp… https://t.co/YW33kucEMe
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 25, 2019
re: #98 Belafon
I definitely dislike her more than Sanders. Sanders would just be annoying. She’s dangerous.
Sanders has his Russian blind spots too tho but I agree.
re: #102 HappyWarrior
Jared shouldn’t be in charge of anything.
Everyone within the Trump Administration should be kept so far away from power, they shouldn’t be able to use a light switch unsupervised.
re: #100 Charles Johnson
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No only does it matter, you can do well in the ratings by covering substance. I don’t think viewers want arguing panels of non-expert talking heads and the ratings would tell me I’m right. https://t.co/k1rEszcmfh
— Soledad O’Brien (@soledadobrien) July 25, 2019
re: #100 Charles Johnson
Whoa….
End agreements? What agreements? Oslo? Water, security, and other agreements in place for crossing from West Bank into Israel? Security arrangements are a big part of the Oslo deal, including A, B, and C zone treatment.
This is a big deal.
re: #102 HappyWarrior
Jared shouldn’t be in charge of anything.
And certainly not in charge of EVERYthing.
re: #102 HappyWarrior
ETTD: Everything Trump Touches Dies.
re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth
That’s one of the reasons that the only cable show I even occasionally watch is Maddow. I just don’t have time/energy for the bullshit most shows launch at viewers nightly.
re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth
Hah! Is that Joy Reid, by any chance, talking about her boss?
Turning Point USA aide fired after Trump appears in front of altered presidential seal: report https://t.co/I9SMgBQTw1 pic.twitter.com/GJP7vEYEZ9
— The Hill (@thehill) July 25, 2019
oh!
JUST IN: 1st Marine Division and NCIS carried out the mass arrest of 16 Marines this morning during a Battalion formation at Camp Pendleton. The arrests were for “alleged involvement in various illegal activities ranging from human smuggling to drug-related offenses.”
— Elizabeth McLaughlin (@Elizabeth_McLau) July 25, 2019
MORE: The case of 2 Marines charged w/ human smuggling earlier this July “identified the allegations” against the Marines involved in today’s arrests. The 16 were part of 1st Battalion 5th Marines and all low-ranking enlisted males, ranging b/t private first class and corporal.
— Elizabeth McLaughlin (@Elizabeth_McLau) July 25, 2019
re: #109 KGxvi
That’s one of the reasons that the only cable show I even occasionally watch is Maddow. I just don’t have time/energy for the bullshit most shows launch at viewers nightly.
Joy Reid’s show is good, but not on at a great time.
re: #97 Targetpractice
All they need is the public to believe the latter. And even not entirely, they can get by if the public thinks that while Trump’s actions were questionable or possibly even corrupt, they weren’t criminal and thus he was “exonerated.”
That’s a problem the DNC need to solve. They’re still in the old mode of Decorum.
They need to be hammering on Trump’s actions, all of them, no matter if charges are brought or not.
re: #112 lawhawk
As he walked on stage, a screen behind him displayed an altered presidential seal featuring a two-headed eagle — an image similar to that on Russia’s coat of arms — holding a set of golf clubs.
A banner also read “45 es un titere,” Spanish for “45 is a puppet,” The Washington Post noted. The image was interpreted as a jab at the president for his relationship with Moscow and his love of golf.
I really hope that was intentional and not a “google image search mistake.” I also hope that the person responsible gets a new job making twice as much.
re: #89 KGxvi
I may be too pessimistic, but this morning I heard a Republican commentator (presumably there for ‘balance’) on NPR. He was one of the 10% who aren’t Trumpkins but will happily accept the lawlessness, racism, corruption, and incompetence for tax cuts and judges. He was one smarmy motherfucker, but he’s not alone. These are the people who think Mitch McConnell is a ‘brilliant legislative tactician’, rather than a soulless, shameless tool happy to trade American democracy for more protections for Plutocracy. He’s one of the many who think the destruction Trump is wreaking is perfectly acceptable as long as it keeps us from getting universal healthcare.
re: #120 Blind Frog Belly White
I may be too pessimistic, but this morning I heard a Republican commentator (presumably there for ‘balance’) on NPR. He was one of the 10% who aren’t Trumpkins but will happily accept the lawlessness, racism, corruption, and incompetence for tax cuts and judges. He was one smarmy motherfucker, but he’s not alone. These are the people who think Mitch McConnell is a ‘brilliant legislative tactician’, rather than a soulless, shameless tool happy to trade American democracy for more protections for Plutocracy. He’s one of the many who think the destruction Trump is wreaking is perfectly acceptable as long as it keeps us from getting universal healthcare.
Those ones actually anger me more than the Trumpers.
re: #72 KGxvi
Random thought…
If Putin is really interested in fucking with American democracy, wouldn’t the play in this election be to “leak” documents showing that Trump knew and accepted foreign help in 2016? Especially if it showed they also helped certain Republicans in other races?
Like is there anything that would throw 2020 into more chaos than that? Creating a Mexican stand off between Dems, the GOP, and Trump?
I think they may not have realized in 2016 their gambit would work, but I think since it did they would want to help reelect Trump so that he can continue to lay waste to our alliances
re: #119 KGxvi
I really hope that was intentional and not a “google image search mistake.” I also hope that the person responsible gets a new job making twice as much.
The Deep State at work….
re: #109 KGxvi
That’s one of the reasons that the only cable show I even occasionally watch is Maddow. I just don’t have time/energy for the bullshit most shows launch at viewers nightly.
I will also watch Lawrence O’Donnell’s show. He has a lot of insight into how the Legislative Branch works. And often provides useful thoughts as to why things are happening the way they are. His trolling of Trump is occasionally mildly amusing, but generally not very informative, though.
OMG!!!
Dramatic video shows a toddler who climbed onto a conveyor belt scrambling over suitcases during his wild ride on a luggage chute that took him underground inside the world’s busiest airport. https://t.co/3t9i8kuOz9
— Detroit News: Nation (@dn_nation_world) July 25, 2019
This guy once threatened to sue me for writing about leaked Heartland documents. He’s a real winner. https://t.co/Yuu2FhZ8Zk
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 25, 2019
re: #120 Blind Frog Belly White
I may be too pessimistic, but this morning I heard a Republican commentator (presumably there for ‘balance’) on NPR. He was one of the 10% who aren’t Trumpkins but will happily accept the lawlessness, racism, corruption, and incompetence for tax cuts and judges. He was one smarmy motherfucker, but he’s not alone. These are the people who think Mitch McConnell is a ‘brilliant legislative tactician’, rather than a soulless, shameless tool happy to trade American democracy for more protections for Plutocracy. He’s one of the many who think the destruction Trump is wreaking is perfectly acceptable as long as it keeps us from getting universal healthcare.
I understand the pessimism. It’s easy to be pessimistic when it feels like we have a two party system where one party deserves to lose and the other doesn’t deserve to win. But I think a big part of the problem is that there isn’t really anyone within the Democratic leadership who is willing/able to constantly point out that Trump’s actions across the board are so far outside the norm. (and to be pessimistic with you… there’s a good chance that if Congress doesn’t stand up to him, his actions become precedent for future presidents to do whatever the fuck they want, because that’s how presidential power works)
re: #126 The Pie Overlord!
The little guy got a free x-ray too.
Dogs can’t run MRI machines, but cats can.
re: #128 KGxvi
“As long as they’re Republican”.
re: #119 KGxvi
I really hope that was intentional and not a “google image search mistake.” I also hope that the person responsible gets a new job making twice as much.
re: #126 The Pie Overlord!
I’ve always wanted to do that
re: #130 Skip Intro
“As long as they’re Republican”.
Oh absolutely. Any Democratic President who uses exec power is a budding tyrant but Trump can shut down investigations that hurt his fee fees per Barr.
re: #98 Belafon
I definitely dislike her more than Sanders. Sanders would just be annoying. She’s dangerous.
I hope I avoid the dystopian hellscape in which Tulsi and Bernie are my two choices when Kentucky finally has its 2020 primary.
re: #106 lawhawk
Whoa….
End agreements? What agreements? Oslo? Water, security, and other agreements in place for crossing from West Bank into Israel? Security arrangements are a big part of the Oslo deal, including A, B, and C zone treatment.
This is a big deal.
Yes, it is. Trump’s idiotic meddling and support for Netanyahu’s extremist approach have actually screwed things up even more than they already were. Who could ever have seen that coming?
re: #126 The Pie Overlord!
Our robot overlords helped us out again:
“The screening machine had detected a problem, and diverted the child on a path for bags in need of more checks,”
re: #130 Skip Intro
“As long as they’re Republican”.
And that’s kinda what bothers me. Republicans either expect that there will never be another Democratic President, or that they can successfully put the genie back in the bottle and hold a Democratic President to the old standards they’ve essentially destroyed to protect and support Trump.
Look at deficit spending - for as long as I’ve been voting, the GOP has been claiming the mantle of fiscal responsibility, and their rank and vile followers believe that as an Article Of Faith. But every time they have the power, they explode the deficit, and not just with tax cuts but also spending. This has been true for over 40 years, but they STILL pretend, and they largely get away with it.
re: #135 Charles Johnson
Who could ever have seen that coming?
Everyone who wasn’t up to their eyeballs in Trumpworld and GOP/Fox lies?
re: #127 Charles Johnson
Ha ha, Lakely is a blast from the past. Looks more like an intellectual vampire than ever before.
re: #94 lawhawk
While this Three Stooges reboot lacks the intended humor of the original, it retains a certain farcical quality we will find fimilar
— 𝘞𝘉 𝘠𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘨 🍕🐀 (@FormerDirtDart) July 25, 2019
re: #102 HappyWarrior
Jared shouldn’t be in charge of anything.
I don’t know. He could be head inmate for the prison laundry.
re: #64 Citizen K
I’m also wondering if there’s more to some of those videos, in part because it occurred during the worst of the heat wave in NYC. As in, those cops who were just walking the beat were fine or consented with getting doused because they were walking and it was 100+ degrees and they’re in full gear.
It doesn’t change the criminal acts of interfering in an arrest/motor vehicle stop as in at least one of the other videos/incidents.
re: #137 Blind Frog Belly White
And that’s kinda what bothers me. Republicans either expect that there will never be another Democratic President, or that they can successfully put the genie back in the bottle and hold a Democratic President to the old standards they’ve essentially destroyed to protect and support Trump.
Look at deficit spending - for as long as I’ve been voting, the GOP has been claiming the mantle of fiscal responsibility, and their rank and vile followers believe that as an Article Of Faith. But every time they have the power, they explode the deficit, and not just with tax cuts but also spending. This has been true for over 40 years, but they STILL pretend, and they largely get away with it.
I don’t think the goopers are thinking anywhere near that far ahead. You’ve got a rather large fraction who are riding the tiger and know it, and then the rest are true believer idiots who don’t realize the whole thing is a scam and actually believe the bullshit on Fox. I would also like to remind everyone that both the DNC and RNC email servers were hacked in 2016, and we haven’t seen the Republican emails. Draw your own conclusions.
To the reality-adjacent goopers, they know the deficit game is a great scam. Run up the debt, then make the next Dem administration do the hard unpopular work of cleaning it up, scream at them for it and win the next election. Lather, rinse, repeat. Then the true believers just believe deficit = debt = giving money to brown people, so there is no contradiction.
Another Trump attempt to bar asylum seekers blocked.
Silly judge, Congress doesn’t make laws, the president does! https://t.co/87cobCIMsG
— Wonkette (@Wonkette) July 25, 2019
re: #66 KGxvi
The day is coming when a racist wingnut tells Marco to go back to where he came from.
As the son/grandson of Cuban refugees, I hate that particular brand of racism more than just about any form of racism. Yet, there is part of me that hopes someone gets it on video when Rubio and/or Cruz are told to go back from whence they came.
Don’t hold your breath. Someone already used the N word with Tim Scott and he brushed it off!
14 scathing collective nouns for Boris Johnson’s cabinet.https://t.co/GG8FYieWbZ pic.twitter.com/VXo0zhWkMa
— The Poke (@ThePoke) July 25, 2019
They’re back… And bringing friends…
(And the effects of yesterday’s Mueller hearings continue to evolve.)
From this evening’s WasPost:
“It’s not just the Russians anymore as Iranians and others turn up disinformation efforts ahead of 2020 vote”
“A recent tweet from Alicia Hernan — whose Twitter account described her as a wife, mother and lover of peace — did not mince words about her feelings for President Trump: “That stupid moron doesn’t get that that by creating bad guys, spewing hate filled words and creating fear of ‘others’, his message is spreading to fanatics around the world. Or maybe he does.”
That March 16 tweet, directed to a Hawaii congressman, was not the work of an American voter venting her frustration. The account, “@AliciaHernan3,” was what disinformation researchers call a “sock puppet” — a type of fictitious online persona perfected by Russians when they were seeking to influence the 2016 presidential election.
But it was Iranians, not Russians, who created @AliciaHernan3, complete with a picture of a blonde woman with large, round-framed glasses and a turtleneck sweater. It was one of more than 7,000 phony accounts from Iran that Twitter has shut down this year alone.”
re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Booby evicts all the Arabs from Gaza and clears the way for Trump Gaza Plaza.
re: #128 KGxvi
I understand the pessimism. It’s easy to be pessimistic when it feels like we have a two party system where one party deserves to lose and the other doesn’t deserve to win. But I think a big part of the problem is that there isn’t really anyone within the Democratic leadership who is willing/able to constantly point out that Trump’s actions across the board are so far outside the norm. (and to be pessimistic with you… there’s a good chance that if Congress doesn’t stand up to him, his actions become precedent for future presidents to do whatever the fuck they want, because that’s how presidential power works)
Personally, I think this poses a bigger issue to our chances next year than winning over the infamous “mushy middle.” It doesn’t matter if we can convince that 10% to vote for us if we lose 10% of our own voters to apathy and disgust. Hating Trump isn’t going to be enough next year if the impression becomes (as I worry it is) that we could win next November and yet see nothing change.
MAKE SWEATSHOPS GREAT AGAIN!
‘Pledge to America’s Workers’ anniversary event underway with @POTUS, @VP and @IvankaTrump. A number of Cabinet secretaries also in attendance. pic.twitter.com/nLDooujxnH
— Steve Herman (@W7VOA) July 25, 2019
re: #81 HappyWarrior
I’m just glad we haven’t had a brazenly corrupt Democratic President in my lifetime.
Tell that to my Jesusbot family who endlessly repeat that Carter, Clinton and Obama were corrupt crooks.
re: #148 ckkatz
Quick technical question…
In the article section I posted above, the fake twitter account appears as a valid link. How could I have disabled it?
re: #150 Targetpractice
That’s a legit fear. That’s also I want to see this field of contenders winnowed down to 2-3 within a few weeks and that anyone with under 5 points drop out. We need to focus on who has best chance to win, and if you’re eking out a 1% you have no chance. It’s your vanity talking, not your vision to all Americans (or even Democrats).
The sooner we get to 1, the better we can focus on hammering Trump at every opportunity and the GOPers backing him.
re: #137 Blind Frog Belly White
And that’s kinda what bothers me. Republicans either expect that there will never be another Democratic President, or that they can successfully put the genie back in the bottle and hold a Democratic President to the old standards they’ve essentially destroyed to protect and support Trump.
Look at deficit spending - for as long as I’ve been voting, the GOP has been claiming the mantle of fiscal responsibility, and their rank and vile followers believe that as an Article Of Faith. But every time they have the power, they explode the deficit, and not just with tax cuts but also spending. This has been true for over 40 years, but they STILL pretend, and they largely get away with it.
They expect that if a Dem wins the presidency back, he and Congressional Dems will do as Obama did: Continue to observe all the traditions and precedents of past presidencies under the belief that the Repubs will reciprocate. That they will not embrace or expand their power as the Repubs have done for fear that they will look “power hungry” and turn off voters. That they will want to come into office in 2021 looking to restore things to “status quo ante Trump.”
re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth
So what Kompromat does Putin have on Charlie Jerk?
— The 3-D Zanti Regent (@josephebacon) July 25, 2019
re: #141 Eventual Carrion
I don’t know. He could be head inmate for the prison laundry.
Jared would be the guy who would turn all of the black and white laundry pink.
re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth
It’s hard to know whether Kirk is truly as stupid as his tweet paints him, or whether he’s just cynically whipping up people who ARE as stupid as that. In the end, I’m not sure it matters.
re: #137 Blind Frog Belly White
And that’s kinda what bothers me. Republicans either expect that there will never be another Democratic President, or that they can successfully put the genie back in the bottle and hold a Democratic President to the old standards they’ve essentially destroyed to protect and support Trump.
Look at deficit spending - for as long as I’ve been voting, the GOP has been claiming the mantle of fiscal responsibility, and their rank and vile followers believe that as an Article Of Faith. But every time they have the power, they explode the deficit, and not just with tax cuts but also spending. This has been true for over 40 years, but they STILL pretend, and they largely get away with it.
That’s a big part of why I blame both-siderism, especially in the media, for most of the problems in US politics. Republicans are always going to be as assholish as they possible can be and retain hopes of staying in power. So with rampant media both-siderism excusing every act of Republican extremism, that check on their rightward march to the Oort Cloud is missing.
Well, off to replace the chain on my chainsaw so I can cut up the three trees knocked down in my backyard by a storm last week. Fortunately they did miss my house by almost a foot. Part of the joys of Virginia suburban living. I guess. BBL
re: #44 Charles Johnson
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Possibly unknown to Trump and Lindsey Graham, but well-known to Turkey: Turkey has been part of the EU customs union since 1995, so can’t just sign a free trade agreement with the US since the US does not have one with the EU https://t.co/yRg1Dvj2yC
— Robert Mackey (@RobertMackey) July 25, 2019
re: #150 Targetpractice
Personally, I think this poses a bigger issue to our chances next year than winning over the infamous “mushy middle.” It doesn’t matter if we can convince that 10% to vote for us if we lose 10% of our own voters to apathy and disgust. Hating Trump isn’t going to be enough next year if the impression becomes (as I worry it is) that we could win next November and yet see nothing change.
There’s a large contingent of people who believe 2020 will be a referendum on Trump. And that is true to a large extent, every presidential campaign with an incumbent is a referendum. But I can’t think of a single challenger who beat an incumbent with nothing more than “I’m not him.”
Reagan in 1980 had a vision for the country. As did Clinton in 1992. Dole, Kerry, and Romney basically had “I’m not that guy” and all failed miserably.
As for nothing changing… Democrats and their supporters have to put in effort in every single race in every single state.
re: #158 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Stella is accused of stealing 279 items valued at $2,327.97 from a Target store in Edina, to the south-west of Minneapolis, on 8 January this year. She was arrested for the alleged theft after security staff called the police. [emphasis added]
279 items on one day!?!?
re: #141 Eventual Carrion
I don’t know. He could be head inmate for the prison laundry.
He’d fuck that up, too!
Good thread on the news journalists missed because they got bored and focused on optics.
(THREAD) Far and away the worst take on Mueller’s testimony is that we learned nothing new from it. In fact, the *new* facts we learned were jaw-dropping. This thread focuses *only* on 10 new things we now know. I hope you’ll RETWEET this for anyone you think might be interested. pic.twitter.com/NpoAhRWEZS
— Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) July 25, 2019
re: #159 Blind Frog Belly White
It’s hard to know whether Kirk is truly as stupid as his tweet paints him, or whether he’s just cynically whipping up people who ARE as stupid as that. In the end, I’m not sure it matters.
He’s stupid.
re: #126 The Pie Overlord!
Little guy is lucky to be alive. It was all over the news down here in Atlanta.
re: #165 garzooma
279 items on one day!?!?
279 items worth an average of less than $10 each. That seems really inefficient.
This War of Mine is free at epic games right now.
re: #170 A Mom Anon
Little guy is lucky to be alive. It was all over the news down here in Atlanta.
Tumbling bags could have crushed him. So glad he is OK.
re: #167 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Good thread on the news journalists missed because they got bored and focused on optics.
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If you ever wondered what happened to that mean dimwitted bullying meatsack full of spiders you went to grade school with, the one who didn’t do it just to cover up his own inadequacies as a human being but also because he ENJOYED it, he became a congressman from FL District 1. https://t.co/9f1TTrCLkZ
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) July 25, 2019
re: #165 garzooma
279 items on one day!?!?
Damn, that’s some seriously harsh enforcement of the rules in the ‘ten items or less’ aisle
re: #167 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Good thread on the news journalists missed because they got bored and focused on optics.
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We didn’t know those things, but deep down, I feel like we knew those things already.
Everything about the GOP and the conservative movement in 2019 is a con game. All of their issues, all their big fake outrages, all their policies, all their showy piety — all a con.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 25, 2019
What racism?
Today would have been Emmett Till’s 78th birthday.
White frat guys posed with guns in front of his memorial, which has bullet holes. https://t.co/FVVzX60pqU— Carolyn Kellogg (@paperhaus) July 25, 2019
She’ll get a glowing hagiography in the NYTimes any day now… e_e
A white woman in Raleigh, N.C. called a black woman the n-word & said she would do it again because she felt “forced” into using the racial slur bc she thought the black woman was being too loud at a restaurant. Good night y’all. https://t.co/e8JOQUelLX via @WRAL (h/t @WRALLena)
— Yamiche Alcindor (@Yamiche) July 25, 2019
This isn’t good for Bernie…
JUST IN: Sanders campaign accused of firing at least three staffers involved in union activities https://t.co/FzJuWDdHsE pic.twitter.com/GVU364QfNP
— The Hill (@thehill) July 25, 2019
An anonymous unfair labor practice charge against Sen. Bernie Sanders’s (I-Vt.) 2020 presidential campaign alleges that at least three staffers were fired from the team for their involvement in organizing and labor activities, according to a redacted copy of the charge obtained by Bloomberg Law.
The charge, which was filed with the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) by a former campaign employee on July 22, also alleges that the campaign violated a collective bargaining agreement with unionized workers by making staffers work additional days and failing to provide additional days off.
When the individual asked the campaign to abide by the terms of the collective bargaining agreement, management retaliated, the charge alleges.
Karma….
re: #164 KGxvi
There’s a large contingent of people who believe 2020 will be a referendum on Trump. And that is true to a large extent, every presidential campaign with an incumbent is a referendum. But I can’t think of a single challenger who beat an incumbent with nothing more than “I’m not him.”
Reagan in 1980 had a vision for the country. As did Clinton in 1992. Dole, Kerry, and Romney basically had “I’m not that guy” and all failed miserably.
As for nothing changing… Democrats and their supporters have to put in effort in every single race in every single state.
Two things stick in my mind.
First, in 2018, we fucking KILLED. Trump threw Caravans and MS13 and everything at us. NeverTrumpers (I’m looking at YOU, Nichols!) warned that nominating people like AOC and letting them become prominent would ruin us. We still crushed it.
Second, 54% in several polls say they will NEVER vote for Trump. Of course, the articles all point out that in 2016, 54% voted against Trump and he still won. But, you know, 6% of that 54% went to someone other than Clinton, and that’s how Trump won. 6% went elsewhere because everyone thought it was safe to vote for Jill Fucking Stein or Gary Fucking Johnson, because Nate Silver said Clinton had a 70% chance of winning, and nobody understood (despite Nate’s warning) that 70% is nowhere near certainty. This year, that lesson will, I’m pretty sure, have been learned.
So, while it’s nothing like a lock, I’m nowhere near as pessimistic about the election as I am about whether impeachment has any point.
re: #179 Charles Johnson
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re: #184 Blind Frog Belly White
Two things stick in my mind.
First, in 2018, we fucking KILLED. Trump threw Caravans and MS13 and everything at us. NeverTrumpers (I’m looking at YOU, Nichols!) warned that nominating people like AOC and letting them become prominent would ruin us. We still crushed it.
Second, 54% in several polls say they will NEVER vote for Trump. Of course, the articles all point out that in 2016, 54% voted against Trump and he still won. But, you know, 6% of that 54% went to someone other than Clinton, and that’s how Trump won. 6% went elsewhere because everyone thought it was safe to vote for Jill Fucking Stein or Gary Fucking Johnson, because Nate Silver said Clinton had a 70% chance of winning, and nobody understood (despite Nate’s warning) that 70% is nowhere near certainty. This year, that lesson will, I’m pretty sure, have been learned.
So, while it’s nothing like a lock, I’m nowhere near as pessimistic about the election as I am about whether impeachment has any point.
TBH my worry isn’t so much as beating him is him accepting being beaten. He will do anything to question the legitimacy of his defeat.
re: #172 Amory Blaine
This War of Mine is free at epic games right now.
Thank you, there goes my weekend…
re: #183 lawhawk
This isn’t good for Bernie…
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Karma….
Seems to go against the brand; could he really be that stupid?
re: #85 Blind Frog Belly White
We’ve already done that test, to some extent. Some Democrats in the House voted for the Articles of Impeachment against Clinton and some Democrats in the Senate voted guilty. Clinton’s impeachment came at the end of an unrelated investigation, where it was known AT THE TIME the investigators were working with Right Wing groups to find dirt.
Trump’s crimes are far more serious, and more clearly a violation of his oath. In the hypothetical where Obama did this, I think you’d have enough Democrats in the Senate to convict.
re: #189 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Seems to go against the brand; could he really be that stupid?
TBH I haven’t seen much from Sanders that indicates smarts. Like no he’s not Trump lacking intelligent but he’s not as smart as his Dem opposition either.
re: #187 HappyWarrior
TBH my worry isn’t so much as beating him is him accepting being beaten. He will do anything to question the legitimacy of his defeat.
I hope we get to that point. He can question all he wants, but I new president will be sworn in. The man is a coward.
re: #187 HappyWarrior
TBH my worry isn’t so much as beating him is him accepting being beaten. He will do anything to question the legitimacy of his defeat.
We may have to do what the people of PR just did. I fully expect Trump to call on his 3 Percenters, Oathkeepers, Bikers for Trump and other assorted Neo-Nazi militias to come to DC to defend him from being removed from office after he loses the election.
re: #192 I Would Prefer Not To
I hope we get to that point. He can question all he wants, but I new president will be sworn in. The man is a coward.
True. He’ll just bitch from Twitter.
re: #164 KGxvi
There’s a large contingent of people who believe 2020 will be a referendum on Trump. And that is true to a large extent, every presidential campaign with an incumbent is a referendum. But I can’t think of a single challenger who beat an incumbent with nothing more than “I’m not him.”
Reagan in 1980 had a vision for the country. As did Clinton in 1992. Dole, Kerry, and Romney basically had “I’m not that guy” and all failed miserably.
As for nothing changing… Democrats and their supporters have to put in effort in every single race in every single state.
Ron had a vision, but he was also running against an increasingly unpopular incumbent, as was Bill in ‘92 when Bush Sr saw his own approval numbers collapse after signing off on new/higher taxes to pay for the debts his boss had ran up. Dole, Kerry, and Romney all lost against presidents that were given the benefit of the doubt because they were personally likeable even if things weren’t going great. And let’s be honest, if it hadn’t been for the Great Recession hitting in the last year of Dubya’s presidency, Obama may very well have lost to the “elder statesman” who could have ran on continuing the “good times.”
We’re running next year against a guy who can get a pass by the media for promising a “big, beautiful new healthcare plan” after he puts two in the back of the ACA’s head and dumps it in a ditch. For all the talk about how we won big last year on healthcare or immigration or gun control, there was really no unified vision beyond “for/against.”
re: #193 NO SMOCKING GUN!
We may have to do what the people of PR just did. I fully expect Trump to call on his 3 Percenters, Oathkeeprs, Bikers for Trump and other assorted Neo-Nazi militias to come to DC to defend him from being removed from office after he loses the election.
And I’m hoping DC PD arrests those pieces of shit.
re: #162 sagehen
It was over 100 degrees, and the officers were wearing the same uniforms they’d wear in winter. Perhaps the people throwing water on them were doing them a favor.
I am not too sure.
Police say the bucket hit an officer in the back of the head, causing pain and swelling. They previously released photos of three other men wanted in the Harlem incident.
re: #187 HappyWarrior
He sure will, and he’ll have the full backing of Fox, AM radio, and a huge number of people and bots on the web.
re: #187 HappyWarrior
TBH my worry isn’t so much as beating him is him accepting being beaten. He will do anything to question the legitimacy of his defeat.
One neurosis-creating worry at a time, please.
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re: #196 HappyWarrior
And I’m hoping DC PD arrests those pieces of shit.
Was it a DC cop giving a ProudBoy a fist bump?
re: #168 HappyWarrior
He’s stupid.
When questioning whether malevolence or ignorance, it seems both are related. My take is ignorance leads the malevolence.
re: #198 Skip Intro
He sure will, and he’ll have the full backing of Fox, AM radio, and a huge number of people and bots on the web.
Especially if it’s him winning the PV but losing the EC.
re: #192 I Would Prefer Not To
When JFK was assassinated, the staff in the WH wasted no time moving Jackie O and her children out of the WH. She wasn’t First Lady anymore - LBJ was POTUS.
The staff will do what Trump will refuse to do - because they’re bound by the law even if he isn’t. Even the Secret Service will not allow him to remain beyond inauguration day.
And if they do, then we’re well and truly fucked.
re: #171 Blind Frog Belly White
279 items worth an average of less than $10 each. That seems really inefficient.
Most shoplifters don’t do it for efficiency. They do it for the thrill.
re: #202 HappyWarrior
Especially if it’s him winning the PV but losing the EC.
Not a chance in hell Trump wins the popular vote.
re: #189 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Seems to go against the brand; could he really be that stupid?
Given that his advisers and chief staffers seem to be those sort of people, yes.
re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth
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“the cub spends most of his time sleeping and eating….” yeah, join the club. Line starts now at the back.
re: #129 Shropshire Slasher
The little guy got a free x-ray too.
Dogs can’t run MRI machines, but cats can.
dogs end up having to do the lab work
re: #172 Amory Blaine
This War of Mine is free at epic games right now.
Bought that on Steam. Harsh simulation.
re: #208 steve_davis
“the cub spends most of his time sleeping and eating….” yeah, join the club. Line starts now at the back.
My cats are like “I do that shit every day and I don’t get my picture in the papers!”
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Even the Sweet Meteor of Death has given up on us:
An asteroid just buzzed past Earth — and we barely noticed in time https://t.co/Is0ORU6wXo
— Raw Story (@RawStory) July 25, 2019
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re: #164 KGxvi
There’s a large contingent of people who believe 2020 will be a referendum on Trump. And that is true to a large extent, every presidential campaign with an incumbent is a referendum. But I can’t think of a single challenger who beat an incumbent with nothing more than “I’m not him.”
Reagan in 1980 had a vision for the country. As did Clinton in 1992. Dole, Kerry, and Romney basically had “I’m not that guy” and all failed miserably.
As for nothing changing… Democrats and their supporters have to put in effort in every single race in every single state.
Warren has a plan (multiple actually). Harris has a plan. Even Biden and Sanders have plans. You have to go a few people deep before you truly get to those whose only skill is being not-Trump, and they’re going to have to get plans pretty quick if they want to stay in.
re: #193 NO SMOCKING GUN!
We may have to do what the people of PR just did. I fully expect Trump to call on his 3 Percenters, Oathkeepers, Bikers for Trump and other assorted Neo-Nazi militias to come to DC to defend him from being removed from office after he loses the election.
never happen
re: #205 Eclectic Cyborg
Most shoplifters don’t do it for efficiency. They do it for the thrill.
Yeah, but they’d lose at Supermarket Sweep!
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re: #204 lawhawk
When JFK was assassinated, the staff in the WH wasted no time moving Jackie O and her children out of the WH. She wasn’t First Lady anymore - LBJ was POTUS.
The staff will do what Trump will refuse to do - because they’re bound by the law even if he isn’t. Even the Secret Service will not allow him to remain beyond inauguration day.
And if they do, then we’re well and truly fucked.
the issue isnt and never will be ‘does he leave the white house’
long before that, the electoral college will vote, congress will certify and on inauguration day roberts will give the oath.
while yes, there can be shenanigans and lawsuits at each of those steps and others (except the last), by the time we reach inauguration day, i dont care where trump wants to plant his ass and declare he’s not moving.
know who else won’t give a shit? the white house chief steward
re: #215 Targetpractice
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That looks like the Not-So-Sweet Meteor of Severe Injury.
re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth
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It’s the flat pack cabinet: all the parts seem the the same, there are more than a few loose screws and it will probably fall apart in a few weeks…
— Liz Grindrod 🔶 #FBPE (@Fledgling1) July 25, 2019
re: #215 Targetpractice
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re: #219 DangerMan
the isnt and never will be ‘does he leave the white house’
long before that, the electoral college will vote, congress will certify and on inauguration day roberts will give the oath.
while yes, there can be shenanigans and lawsuits at each of those steps and others (except the last), by the time we reach inauguration day, i dont care where trump wants to plant his ass and declare he’s not moving.
know who else won’t give a shit? the white house chief steward
I already predicted what will happen
trump loses
whines, bitches, etc.
signs lots of EO and pardons
Quits
Pence sworn in
Pence pardons trump for everything (not legal, but why not)
Pence issues lots of EOs (pro life, anti gay, etc).
New president sworn in/cleanup begins.
re: #167 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Good thread on the news journalists missed because they got bored and focused on optics.
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i think this is the most important:
9. REPUBLICANS HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO ANY OF THE DAMNING FACTS IN THE MUELLER REPORT. Media waited with baited breath for Republicans to contest the Report’s damning findings rather than just opine about what else Mueller could have looked at—and shockingly, the moment never came.
a lot of hand waving and misdirection
Not one person said “he didn’t do it”
re: #219 DangerMan
the issue isnt and never will be ‘does he leave the white house’
long before that, the electoral college will vote, congress will certify and on inauguration day roberts will give the oath.
while yes, there can be shenanigans and lawsuits at each of those steps and others (except the last), by the time we reach inauguration day, i dont care where trump wants to plant his ass and declare he’s not moving.
know who else won’t give a shit? the white house chief steward
This is what I’ve said: the Secret Service protects the President. 20 Jan. 2021 at noon, if that’s someone else, the Secret Service will protect that person from anyone.
re: #223 I Would Prefer Not To
I already predicted what will happen
trump loses
whines, bitches, etc.
signs lots of EO and pardons
Quits
Pence sworn in
Pence pardons trump for everything (not legal, but why not)
Pence issues lots of EOs (pro life, anti gay, etc).
New president sworn in/cleanup begins.
I could live through that. I will make an effort to prevent Pence from getting in. There’s been too much damage already.
re: #224 DangerMan
i think this is the most important:
a lot of hand waving and misdirection
Not one person said “he didn’t do it”
Most of them did the same thing over and over again: Hammered on the “conclusions” as the only answer they really needed, before launching into hysterics about how Mueller hadn’t wasted time and government money researching their various conspiracy theories.
re: #222 Blind Frog Belly White
you were right
got in contact with Carignan as you suggested
it’ll take easily 2-4x what the thing is worth.
thanks for your direction
re: #224 DangerMan
i think this is the most important:
a lot of hand waving and misdirection
Not one person said “he didn’t do it”
Their objection is not to what Trump did, but that anyone knew about it.
Basically yesterday was the Dems spending their time hammering the key points from the Report home again and again, peppered with commentary about just how corrupt and wrong it was for the Trump campaign to be willing to even accept indirect support from the Russian gov’t. While the Repubs spent their time yielding to Sean Hannity to try to undermine Mueller’s credibility and settling for making jokes about how he sounds old and “didn’t read his Report.”
The problem is that, while political junkies are picking through the whole mess like crime scene investigators looking for the most minute of clues, most voters either couldn’t watch things live or could only do so in fits and starts, so their entire impression of the event was formed by watching the nightly news. And depending on who they watched or what they read, that impression ranges from “Mueller says Trump not exonerated!” to “Mueller didn’t know what he was talking about!”
re: #79 KGxvi
A cynical answer would be that in 1996, Senate Democrats protected Clinton. But there were also a few Republicans who voted to acquit on one of the charges.
The question, is two fold, I think… how many House Dems would vote in favor of how many articles of impeachment? And, assuming the evidence is credible, how many Senate Dems would vote to convict on at least one article?
There were even a few Republicans (incl Susan Collins!) who voted Not Guilty on both charges. Every Democrat voted to acquit. We have seen that the GOP is now a fully owned subsidiary of the Russian Government.
re: #220 wrenchwench
That looks like the Not-So-Sweet Meteor of Severe Injury.
Yeah. A 100 m spacerock would level a medium-sized metropolis, and could potentially trigger an exchange if the missile forces are too twitchy…
re: #228 DangerMan
you were right
got in contact with Carignan as you suggested
it’ll take easily 2-4x what the thing is worth.
thanks for your direction
“Worth” has different meanings. If you would never sell it because it’s important to you, market value is meaningless.
But, yeah, this is the hidden cost of vintage watches. For example, I keep a spreadsheet of all my vintage wrist watches, with the price I paid for each. Over 200 watches, and the average price was $30.
Standard professional cleaning would be at least $100, probably more like $150, exclusive of any parts.
If I tried to sell them, even with a receipt from a professional watchmaker to prove they’d been recently serviced, I’d get an average of maybe $40-50.
Most vintage watches is not “worth” the cost of fixing them.
re: #232 Teukka
Yeah. A 100 m spacerock would level a medium-sized metropolis, and could potentially trigger an exchange if the missile forces are too twitchy…
Or, if it hit where the first atom bomb was tested, it might damage Holloman AFB and scatter white sand (gypsum) all over 3 counties.
House panel approves subpoenas for records tied to private text and email use by Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, Mick Mulvaney and others for official business https://t.co/3J795vNqfk
— Bloomberg Politics (@bpolitics) July 25, 2019
In Alaska, what used to be covered in ice is now a melted glacier with enough water to kayak in.@KevTibs is there and has a first-hand look at the devastating impacts of climate change on tonight’s @NBCNightlyNews. pic.twitter.com/9g9Fztnas0
— NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt (@NBCNightlyNews) July 25, 2019
re: #235 Dread Pirate
I’m sure these will get ignored too.
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So you’re telling me that the email anger was just fake rage from Congressional Republicans and the Trump Campaign. God I hate these corrupt fuckers with every fiber of my being.
re: #235 Dread Pirate
And, of course, they’ll just ignore them.
re: #233 Blind Frog Belly White
“Worth” has different meanings. If you would never sell it because it’s important to you, market value is meaningless.
But, yeah, this is the hidden cost of vintage watches. For example, I keep a spreadsheet of all my vintage wrist watches, with the price I paid for each. Over 200 watches, and the average price was $30.
Standard professional cleaning would be at least $100, probably more like $150, exclusive of any parts.
If I tried to sell them, even with a receipt from a professional watchmaker to prove they’d been recently serviced, I’d get an average of maybe $40-50.
Most vintage watches is not “worth” the cost of fixing them.
Sometimes Mr. w is called upon to assess the value of a piece of cast iron. He generally starts talking about the provenance, and if the owner butts in and asks, ‘What’s it worth?’ Mr. w will say, ‘What did you pay for it?’ If they tell him, he says, ‘That’s what it was worth then. If you can get more for it, it’s worth more.’
re: #238 HappyWarrior
So you’re telling me that the email anger was just fake rage from Congressional Republicans and the Trump Campaign. God I hate these corrupt fuckers with every fiber of my being.
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re: #238 HappyWarrior
So you’re telling me that the email anger was just fake rage from Congressional Republicans and the Trump Campaign. God I hate these corrupt fuckers with every fiber of my being.
That was obvious right around the time you had wingnut Republicans screaming about the usage of private email accounts for official business…while their business cards had private email accounts printed on them.
re: #243 Targetpractice
That was obvious right around the time you had wingnut Republicans screaming about the usage of private email accounts for official business…while their business cards had private email accounts printed on them.
Yep. Really was.
— Endless Jeopardy (@EndlessJeopardy) July 25, 2019
Susan Chan Jackie Collins pic.twitter.com/yoqFleKaL9
— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) July 25, 2019
re: #238 HappyWarrior
So you’re telling me that the email anger was just fake rage from Congressional Republicans and the Trump Campaign. God I hate these corrupt fuckers with every fiber of my being.
I watched some video of the committee hearing, and many Democratic members asked why this was any different from the subpoenas the committee issued to HRC when it was under Republican control. Gym Jordan twisted himself in knots trying to explain how Ivanka is different and settled on complaining that the subpoena was asking for private communications.
Rep. Rashida Tlaib was having none of it.
“It is important for my colleagues to understand we’re talking about transparency, talking about oversight,” she continued. “These are messages that impact the American people. That right now all I hear is this fear from the other side of information that might come about Ivanka, and we have to protect — that’s all I hear! You choose to protect family members of the current administration that have access to information. They’re at the table making decisions on behalf of the American people. They don’t have privacy anymore. They also have to be accountable to us in this chamber. Mr. Chairman, and ranking member, I understand that you want to talk about the specific processes, want to go back and forth about Hillary Clinton. You are protecting someone that is at the table.”
Article and video here
Warning: Video contains Gym Jordan acting like … well … Gym Jordan.
re: #187 HappyWarrior
TBH my worry isn’t so much as beating him is him accepting being beaten. He will do anything to question the legitimacy of his defeat.
When drumpf loses he’ll resign and pence will pardon him. And Republicans will make both into martyrs.
re: #246 Teddy’s Person
I watched some video of the committee hearing, and many Democratic members asked why this was any different from the subpoenas the committee issued to HRC when it was under Republican control. Gym Jordan twisted himself in knots trying to explain how Ivanka is different and settled on complaining that the subpoena was asking for private communications.
Rep. Rashida Tlaib was having none of it.
Article and video here
Warning: Video contains Gym Jordan acting like … well … Gym Jordan.
I wonder if Jordan’s constituents ever get embarrassed by him. As someone who has awful representation in Richmond, I would be so ashamed if I knew my neighbors were sending Gym to Washington to be a perpetual Trump lackey.
re: #247 Old Liberal
When drumpf loses he’ll resign and pence will pardon him. And Republicans will make both into martyrs.
I’m for the Agnewfication of Pence. Sounds easier to just Spiro him.
re: #248 HappyWarrior
I wonder if Jordan’s constituents ever get embarrassed by him. As someone who has awful representation in Richmond, I would be so ashamed if I knew my neighbors were sending Gym to Washington to be a perpetual Trump lackey.
I wonder what Gym’s constituents think of this headline: Rep. Jim Jordan Is Named in New OSU Sexual Abuse Lawsuit. I hope they give him an earful during the recess.
re: #250 Teddy’s Person
I wonder what Gym’s constituents think of this headline: Rep. Jim Jordan Is Named in New OSU Sexual Abuse Lawsuit. I hope they give him an earful during the recess.
Yeah he’s all around awful.
re: #240 wrenchwench
Sometimes Mr. w is called upon to assess the value of a piece of cast iron. He generally starts talking about the provenance, and if the owner butts in and asks, ‘What’s it worth?’ Mr. w will say, ‘What did you pay for it?’ If they tell him, he says, ‘That’s what it was worth then. If you can get more for it, it’s worth more.’
There’s a big difference between investing in items and buying them to be enjoyed. A lot of people don’t seem to understand the difference anymore. I think the first time I realized the difference was when I collected baseball cards as a kid. I’d go to shops looking for different cards and while I paid attention to condition, I was much more interested in getting a card of a particular player than I was in the mind set of “oh, this one is going to be worth a lot in a few years.” As it turned out, most weren’t worth a lot, even all these years later.
re: #247 Old Liberal
When drumpf loses he’ll resign and pence will pardon him. And Republicans will make both into martyrs.
The question is how to handle the fanatic Trump base. If it weren’t for them, I could see the entire GOP pretending that they had nothing to do with these bad actors and the slate should be wiped clean. But this base handcuffs the GOP to certain extreme positions.
re: #246 Teddy’s Person
I watched some video of the committee hearing, and many Democratic members asked why this was any different from the subpoenas the committee issued to HRC when it was under Republican control. Gym Jordan twisted himself in knots trying to explain how Ivanka is different and settled on complaining that the subpoena was asking for private communications.
Rep. Rashida Tlaib was having none of it.
Article and video here
Warning: Video contains Gym Jordan acting like … well … Gym Jordan.
One of the biggest blow-ups in “Emailgate” was the idea that Hillary and/or her lawyers got to decide what was relevant versus what was “private,” with Republicans (including Gym) demanding she fork over all of her emails because they insisted that those emails labeled “private” might contain information that was relevant to her official duties.
re: #252 KGxvi
There’s a big difference between investing in items and buying them to be enjoyed. A lot of people don’t seem to understand the difference anymore. I think the first time I realized the difference was when I collected baseball cards as a kid. I’d go to shops looking for different cards and while I paid attention to condition, I was much more interested in getting a card of a particular player than I was in the mind set of “oh, this one is going to be worth a lot in a few years.” As it turned out, most weren’t worth a lot, even all these years later.
We have a collection we use. Mr. w sells fully functional junk to people who just want to cook, cracked ones to folks who want to make art, and collectables to those who appreciate them. He’s been known to give away books, to enable further appreciation.
re: #250 Teddy’s Person
I wonder what Gym’s constituents think of this headline: Rep. Jim Jordan Is Named in New OSU Sexual Abuse Lawsuit. I hope they give him an earful during the recess.
Welp, they re-elected him with 65+% of the vote since that article came out in July, 2018, so I guess they thought he was AOK.
re: #254 Targetpractice
One of the biggest blow-ups in “Emailgate” was the idea that Hillary and/or her lawyers got to decide what was relevant versus what was “private,” with Republicans (including Gym) demanding she fork over all of her emails because they insisted that those emails labeled “private” might contain information that was relevant to her official duties.
I believe the dictionary should re-define hypocrisy as “when a Democrat says one thing but does another” since clearly it no longer applies to republicans
re: #240 wrenchwench
Sometimes Mr. w is called upon to assess the value of a piece of cast iron. He generally starts talking about the provenance, and if the owner butts in and asks, ‘What’s it worth?’ Mr. w will say, ‘What did you pay for it?’ If they tell him, he says, ‘That’s what it was worth then. If you can get more for it, it’s worth more.’
There was a discussion on one of the watch forums I frequent about the effect of the internet, and Ebay especially, on the market value of vintage watches, in this case American pocket watches. It used to be that The Book (Price Guide to Vintage Watches) was where you looked for the values, which were based on the authors calling dealers they knew and asking, so it was basically, “what do you sell these for?” Similarly, ‘rarity’ was determined by “how often have you seen this model?”
Now, with Ebay, everyone with access to the internet can find out what a watch like the one you’re looking at sold for anytime in the last 3-6 months. You can also see whether what the seller says is “Very rare” really IS rare (spoiler - it’s not!).
The other thing about Ebay? You know if you miss out on one watch, there’ll be another along soon. Buying from dealers in person? You don’t know if you’ll EVER see one again.
And there’s so much more information more generally available on the original manufacturers and what was made. I think this makes the truly rare specimens sell for a lot more, while depressing the prices of the more mundane stuff.
Generally, something is worth what someone will pay for it, but as somebody pointed out, in an auction format you never know what the winner was willing to pay. You only know what the second highest bidder was willing to pay!
re: #256 BeachDem
Welp, they re-elected him with 65+% of the vote since that article came out in July, 2018, so I guess they thought he was AOK.
All he had to do is say Jesus forgives him and the Xtians will vote for him.
Just like Scott DesJarlais…
re: #256 BeachDem
Welp, they re-elected him with 65+% of the vote since that article came out in July, 2018, so I guess they thought he was AOK.
At least Steve King’s showed some signs. That said, these guys make it clear who they are every night.
re: #233 Blind Frog Belly White
“Worth” has different meanings. If you would never sell it because it’s important to you, market value is meaningless.
But, yeah, this is the hidden cost of vintage watches. For example, I keep a spreadsheet of all my vintage wrist watches, with the price I paid for each. Over 200 watches, and the average price was $30.
Standard professional cleaning would be at least $100, probably more like $150, exclusive of any parts.
If I tried to sell them, even with a receipt from a professional watchmaker to prove they’d been recently serviced, I’d get an average of maybe $40-50.
Most vintage watches is not “worth” the cost of fixing them.
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re: #260 HappyWarrior
At least Steve King’s showed some signs. That said, these guys make it clear who they are every night.
Even old drunk John Boehner disliked Jordan. Called him “a terrorist. A legislative terrorist “
re: #252 KGxvi
There’s a big difference between investing in items and buying them to be enjoyed. A lot of people don’t seem to understand the difference anymore. I think the first time I realized the difference was when I collected baseball cards as a kid. I’d go to shops looking for different cards and while I paid attention to condition, I was much more interested in getting a card of a particular player than I was in the mind set of “oh, this one is going to be worth a lot in a few years.” As it turned out, most weren’t worth a lot, even all these years later.
Investing in collectibles - as an investment - is nuts, IMO. So much of the value depends on provenance and/or condition, plus sometimes it’s just silly.
Back when The Older Boy was into trains, I read about sales of old Lionel pieces. One of them was an unopened GG1 locomotive, still in the sealed outer box. Open the box to look at it, and you destroy a lot of the value. But, really, it could be a BRICK in a box sealed with old looking tape!
re: #258 Blind Frog Belly White
There was a discussion on one of the watch forums I frequent about the effect of the internet, and Ebay especially, on the market value of vintage watches, in this case American pocket watches. It used to be that The Book (Price Guide to Vintage Watches) was where you looked for the values, which were based on the authors calling dealers they knew and asking, so it was basically, “what do you sell these for?” Similarly, ‘rarity’ was determined by “how often have you seen this model?”
Now, with Ebay, everyone with access to the internet can find out what a watch like the one you’re looking at sold for anytime in the last 3-6 months. You can also see whether what the seller says is “Very rare” really IS rare (spoiler - it’s not!).
The other thing about Ebay? You know if you miss out on one watch, there’ll be another along soon. Buying from dealers in person? You don’t know if you’ll EVER see one again.
And there’s so much more information more generally available on the original manufacturers and what was made. I think this makes the truly rare specimens sell for a lot more, while depressing the prices of the more mundane stuff.
Generally, something is worth what someone will pay for it, but as somebody pointed out, in an auction format you never know what the winner was willing to pay. You only know what the second highest bidder was willing to pay!
Mr. w never buys or sells on ebay, but he uses it for pricing. He always checks ‘sold for’, and disregards ‘asking’
The internet reduced the value of used bikes.
re: #263 Old Liberal
Even old drunk John Boehner disliked Jordan. Called him “a terrorist. A legislative terrorist “
He wasn’t wrong.
re: #265 wrenchwench
Mr. w never buys or sells on ebay, but he uses it for pricing. He always checks ‘sold for’, and disregards ‘asking’
The internet reduced the value of used bikes.
It’s how I got hold of the 1992 Battaglin MAX frame I used to build Dreadnought.
Ah, sweet Jesus, people like Nadia Bolz-Weber give me a bit of hope for Christianity in the long run…
If you don’t have a drag queen in your congregation you should get one
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“Here’s why if you don’t have a drag queen in your congregation you should get one…Because when we were talking about what’s called stewardship, which is kind of the financial reality of our church and people giving and stuff, we were trying to figure out ways to encourage people to help fund the community they’re part of, Stuart goes: ‘Oh I know what we’re going to do. We’re going to get a T-Shirt and on the front it will say This Shit Ain’t Free, and then on the back it’s going to say So You Better Tithe, Bitches!’ You see what I’m saying? It just makes church so much better.” - Nadia Bolz-Weber
re: #268 Blind Frog Belly White
It’s how I got hold of the 1992 Battaglin MAX frame I used to build Dreadnought.
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re: #270 DangerMan
looks like a kick start, but i dont see no motor or obnoxious staggered dual exhausts
Just the single exhaust, and only when nobody’s close behind me.
re: #268 Blind Frog Belly White
It’s how I got hold of the 1992 Battaglin MAX frame I used to build Dreadnought.
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Needs a 650cc Vertical Twin… < whistles innocently >
re: #271 Blind Frog Belly White
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re: #256 BeachDem
Welp, they re-elected him with 65+% of the vote since that article came out in July, 2018, so I guess they thought he was AOK.
I should have checked the date more carefully.
re: #272 Blind Frog Belly White
Just the single exhaust, and only when nobody’s close behind me.
runners call that crop dusting
re: #273 William Lewis
Needs a 650cc Vertical Twin… < whistles innocently >
To be fair, the Columbus MAX tubing it’s built from makes for a substantial bike. It was Columbus’ heaviest racing tubeset at the time, but it was engineered to a fare-thee-well for big, strong riders. So it handles old, fat me with no problems.
re: #275 Teddy’s Person
I should have checked the date more carefully.
I was just being a smartass—I followed all the OSU intrigue stories, from Gym to Zach Smith, very closely, so I had the timeline down pretty well.
looks like Sweden told them moron to go pound sand
Very disappointed in Prime Minister Stefan Löfven for being unable to act. Sweden has let our African American Community down in the United States. I watched the tapes of A$AP Rocky, and he was being followed and harassed by troublemakers. Treat Americans fairly! #FreeRocky
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 25, 2019
Give A$AP Rocky his FREEDOM. We do so much for Sweden but it doesn’t seem to work the other way around. Sweden should focus on its real crime problem! #FreeRocky
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 25, 2019
re: #269 William Lewis
She’s the best. I have two of her books, she’s awesome. And I am not even an organized religion fan. I’m kinda sad she isn’t in the pulpit at the moment, but she is doing good traveling around talking to congregations about being open and loving and inclusive and kind. The House for All Sinners and Saints is still carrying onward without her for now. I hope she ends up back there someday.
re: #279 BeachDem
I was just being a smartass—I followed all the OSU intrigue stories, from Gym to Zach Smith, very closely, so I had the timeline down pretty well.
I thought he managed to ellude being officially named in the scandal. So, when I saw this story, I thought they finally caught up with him.
re: #269 William Lewis
Ah, sweet Jesus, people like Nadia Bolz-Weber give me a bit of hope for Christianity in the long run…
Pat Robertson’s ass would explode if he sees that.
re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth
looks like Sweden told them moron to go pound sand
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Who had Sweden as the next country he’d piss off. Tell ya what Donnie, do something about your goon squad detaining US citizens instead of picking a fight in Sweden.
re: #279 BeachDem
I was just being a smartass—I followed all the OSU intrigue stories, from Gym to Zach Smith, very closely, so I had the timeline down pretty well.
p.s. If I screw up, I appreciate people pointing out my mistakes.
re: #274 DangerMan
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re: #285 Teddy’s Person
p.s. If I screw up, I appreciate people pointing out my mistakes.
Which is why this website is one of the best ones. People here don’t get pissy if mistakes are pointed out.
re: #262 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire
Thank you, I never get tired of watching the lift off, and especially the landings.
re: #284 HappyWarrior
Who had Sweden as the next country he’d piss off. Tell ya what Donnie, do something about your goon squad detaining US citizens instead of picking a fight in Sweden.
it’s all about projection and distraction
re: #289 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
it’s all about projection and distraction
No shit.
re: #284 HappyWarrior
Who had Sweden as the next country he’d piss off. Tell ya what Donnie, do something about your goon squad detaining US citizens instead of picking a fight in Sweden.
Sweden should reply that at least when they lock people up, it’s only one person to a room.
re: #291 Belafon
Sweden should reply that at least when they lock people up, it’s only one person to a room.
He didn’t even know about the bail system there. He was just doing the bidding of Kayne and Kim for Jared and Ivanka.
re: #230 Targetpractice
Basically yesterday was the Dems spending their time hammering the key points from the Report home again and again, peppered with commentary about just how corrupt and wrong it was for the Trump campaign to be willing to even accept indirect support from the Russian gov’t. While the Repubs spent their time yielding to Sean Hannity to try to undermine Mueller’s credibility and settling for making jokes about how he sounds old and “didn’t read his Report.”
um… kinda.
Actually, the KEY POINT was that Russia interfered massively and systematically, in ways that are detailed in Part I of the report, and they’re doing it still, here’s what we could do to stop them, etc., and Mueller would have probably been happy to expound at length on this.
Instead, the questioning was focused almost entirely on how much Trump and his team knew about this at the time, and why they didn’t want it investigated, and how they tried to block the investigation.
If the questioning had hammered on Russia did this, and that, and the other thing, in all these specific ways… with occasional parenthetical asides about the Trump team’s awareness and delight… and Russia is planning X Y and Z next, and other countries too (with side mentions that Trump and his team are okay with that too, because he’s making so much money personally from the presidency)…
Republicans might have felt the OPTICS required them to protect the election as a show of faith that their guy can win fair.
re: #287 HappyWarrior
Which is why this website is one of the best ones. People here don’t get pissy
ifwhen mistakes are pointed out.
// ;-)
re: #292 HappyWarrior
He didn’t even know about the bail system there. He was just doing the bidding of Kayne and Kim for Jared and Ivanka.
I wonder what his BFFs and criminal justice reform advocates Kanye and Kim think of Trump’s EO reinstating the federal death penalty.
re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth
looks like Sweden told them moron to go pound sand
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Oh, so NOW he suddenly fucking cares about a black person?
re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth
looks like Sweden told them moron to go pound sand
He allegedly broke Swedish law and is being held accountable by those laws. You’re just pissed off that Sweden told you to fuck off and to mind your own business. https://t.co/KbAfzeO5B4
— Michele: Out of the Closet and into the fire (@BubbleheadII) July 25, 2019
re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth
looks like Sweden told them moron to go pound sand
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And yet not a word that I can recall from the Vulgar Talking Yam (went for his full title) about the poor Texas-born kid falsely held for three weeks under horrendous conditions right here in the US of A.
re: #299 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire
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Yeah that’s what I’ve heard too. He must really think the African American community is as stupid as Jared and Ivanka are.
re: #288 Shropshire Slasher
Thank you, I never get tired of watching the lift off, and especially the landings.
Was a nice clean launch and 1st stage recovery.
re: #300 BeachDem
And yet not a word that I can recall from the Vulgar Talking Yam (went for his full title) about the poor Texas-born kid falsely held for three weeks under horrendous conditions right here in the US of A.
Sadly, the kid wasn’t friends with Kanye West or Kim Kardashian.
re: #300 BeachDem
And yet not a word that I can recall from the Vulgar Talking Yam (went for his full title) about the poor Texas-born kid falsely held for three weeks under horrendous conditions right here in the US of A.
That’s exactly what I brought up but that kid doesn’t have powerful friends in Trump’s ear. And unlike this guy, he didn’t do anything wrong. He just looked like an immigrant and that was enough for Trump’s goons.
re: #303 Eclectic Cyborg
Sadly, the kid wasn’t friends with Kanye West or Kim Kardashian.
I can’t describe the word for it but a lot of how Trump treats people is how he relates to you. So yeah he won’t be a total asshole to all immigrants or PoC but it is definitely predated on how they treat him. Mariano Rivera just made a fool of himself praising Trump on Fox and Friends. Great pitcher but the guy is kidding himself if he thinks Trump would consider him a friend if Mo was anything other than a Hall of Fame pitcher for Trump’s favorite team.
My surprise. Let me show you it.
Breaking News: Election systems in all 50 states were targeted by Russia in 2016, a Senate report said, showing a more far-reaching effort than previously knownhttps://t.co/Sr4bZwrhk2
— The New York Times (@nytimes) July 25, 2019
Very disappointed in Prime Minister Stefan Löfven for being unable to act. Sweden has let our African American Community down in the United States. I watched the tapes of A$AP Rocky, and he was being followed and harassed by troublemakers. Treat Americans fairly! #FreeRocky
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 25, 2019
“I watched the tapes of A$AP Rocky, and he was being followed and harassed by troublemakers.”
Funny how that’s totally not the same thing as happens EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY to POC when interacting with law enforcement in the USA.
re: #284 HappyWarrior
Who had Sweden as the next country he’d piss off. Tell ya what Donnie, do something about your goon squad detaining US citizens instead of picking a fight in Sweden.
Aw shit, I had Lichtenstein in the LGF pool! 😢😢😢😢😢😢
re: #306 The Pie Overlord!
My surprise. Let me show you it.
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If people think this didn’t impact the results, they’re nuts. Trump lost by a higher percentage of the popular vote than anyone who had ever won the EC but lost the PV.
re: #308 Joe Bacon 🌹
Aw shit, I had Lichtenstein in the LGF pool! 😢😢😢😢😢😢
I’m hoping Slovakia pisses him off because they have a woman President who doesn’t take shit from bigots.
re: #308 Joe Bacon 🌹
Aw shit, I had Lichtenstein in the LGF pool! 😢😢😢😢😢😢
I lost $15 betting on Ethiopia.
re: #309 HappyWarrior
If people think this didn’t impact the results, they’re nuts. Trump lost by a higher percentage of the popular vote than anyone who had ever won the EC but lost the PV.
And with no security improvements, the Russians are happy to fuck us again in 2020.
re: #265 wrenchwench
Mr. w never buys or sells on ebay, but he uses it for pricing. He always checks ‘sold for’, and disregards ‘asking’
The internet reduced the value of used bikes.
When Oppo announced that they were no longer going to make their high-end BluRay players, the price of them shot up bigly from their original MSRP.
re: #312 Eclectic Cyborg
And with no security improvements, the Russians are happy to fuck us again in 2020.
Yeah very real possibility that Trump could well become the first to lose the popular vote twice and win the EC. We need to be ready for this shit happening again but McConnell doesn’t give a shit.
They spend every day competing with each other for the honor of being the most putrid human shit on the planet. https://t.co/bW1eIqD8yh
— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) July 25, 2019
OT but here’s an update on my quest to make sure at least some kids in my community can be assured of a lunch for the upcoming school year.
I was able to contact the county school nutrition department and they informed me that the policy:
1) Never allows a child to go without lunch. If there is an issue at home, like a job loss or medical issues, etc, there is a special circumstance form that allows for free lunches for as long as needed.
2)Schools in the less well off parts of the county have funds set up that can be donated to. All you have to do is pick the school and there’s a link to donate on their website. That will be my course of action.
I may look into donations of school supplies and shoes for the school I pick. There’s usually a big push for donations now and most of those drives are ending as school begins. I’m going to look at doing a second drive around the end of the first grading period, when supplies begin running low and the weather begins to change when the needs are going to rise again. So no big giant plan, but every little tangible thing matters, yes?
re: #306 The Pie Overlord!
My surprise. Let me show you it.
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Charles Pierce opined ages ago that we’re getting ever closer to finding out that the Russians successfully changed votes in the election. And when that happens, whatever remains of our faith in the results of our elections will be done for.
re: #313 Eric The Fruit Bat
When Oppo announced that they were no longer going to make their high-end BluRay players, the price of them shot up bigly from their original MSRP.
The instant spread of knowledge has changed all markets.
re: #269 William Lewis
Ah, sweet Jesus, people like Nadia Bolz-Weber give me a bit of hope for Christianity in the long run…
Bolz-Weber is the Scary Woman Preacher who showed up in the Founders Ministries nasty little “trailer” for a “documentary” called “By What Standard?” The trailer tried to make Bolz-Weber look like she was transgender or something. These guys think women shouldn’t preach.
Remind me again, who are the “welfare queens”?
The Trump administration revealed new details of its $16 billion aid package for farmers hit in the U.S.-China trade war — with key provisions meant to avoid large corporations scooping up big payouts at the expense of small farmers.
In 2018, payout to individual farmers hurt by the trade war with China was capped at $125,000; this time it has been raised to $250,000 per person or legal entity, with a cap of $500,000 across three categories — for those who produce soy as well as vegetables and pigs.
The cap comes in response to claims of significant abuse in last year’s $12 billion trade relief package.
The Environmental Working Group, using data received under the Freedom of Information Act, found individual farmers in five states — Indiana, Illinois, Missouri, Tennessee and Texas — received more than $900,000 in 2018, largely through a loophole that allowed each member of a farm-owning family to apply for relief.
Money flowed to foreign-owned businesses and to those who don’t live or work on a farm, including an architect in Manhattan, Chinese conglomerates and Brazilian beef companies. More than $38 million in aid money went to residents of cities including San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York and Washington.
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Source: WaPo
This on top of already existing subsidies.
re: #320 Teddy’s Person
Remind me again, who are the “welfare queens”?
This on top of already existing subsidies.
Wingnuts love public assistance when they’re the ones getting it.
re: #320 Teddy’s Person
“The cap comes in response to claims of significant abuse in last year’s $12 billion trade relief package.”
Cheating is only okay if Trump does it.
re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Funny how that’s totally not the same thing as happens EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY to POC when interacting with law enforcement in the USA.
…who may then be shot or choked to death, with the officer later ‘exonerated’
Why don’t you use your #Taxcuts instead.
This fools no one. You guys spent our money like drunken sailors in Bangkok for the last 3 years.
And no, I’m not better off than I was 3 years ago, and the Tax Cuts did not work.
Signed, Pissed off Constituant.@JulieOliverTX— 🦈E-Mail Terminator🦈 (@DaveoutofAustin) July 25, 2019
re: #319 mmmirele
Bolz-Weber is the Scary Woman Preacher who showed up in the Founders Ministries nasty little “trailer” for a “documentary” called “By What Standard?” The trailer tried to make Bolz-Weber look like she was transgender or something. These guys think women shouldn’t preach.
I’m reading her most recent book, “Shameless - A Sexual Reformation” and I can just bet those people are terrified of her. All decent Christians do scare them, but she’d be one that would be like facing Christ herself to them.
At one point she quotes a 19th century theologian’s definition of heresy as that which preserves the appearance of Christianity yet contradicts it’s essence. In this case, lots of blathery god talk and cherry picked verses of scripture while ignoring the real commandments to love god and to love your neighbor - and by the implication of “as yourself” to love yourself as you are. “Male AND Female he made them.” I choose to believe that, like the creator, we all have male and female in us or we could not be made in the image of god.
re: #321 HappyWarrior
Wingnuts love public assistance when they’re the only ones getting it.
just helpin out
re: #320 Teddy’s Person
Remind me again, who are the “welfare queens”?
This on top of already existing subsidies.
Subsidies that will become the new norm, such that whoever wins next November can expect to find farmers on their doorstep with hands outstretched.
Here’s the truth: the Majority Leader has been blocking multiple serious, bipartisan election security bills for months.
If he would let it, the Senate could get serious about election security right now. Let’s hold hearings. Let’s vote. Let’s do our jobs. https://t.co/nnAYb0XVPN— Mark Warner (@MarkWarner) July 25, 2019
re: #330 Dread Pirate
I’d never thought I’d see a time when election security was considered a “Partisan issue”.
re: #330 Dread Pirate
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See, Mark, what you don’t get is that Mitch is like the rest of his party in believing the only security risk to our elections…are all those “illegals” they believe are voting for Dems each November. If you put up a Voter ID bill tomorrow that you said was vital to protecting the 2020 vote, every Republican will be immediately for it.
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
Susan Collins May Not Seek Re-Election Due To Her Plunging Approval Rating
According to Rawstory, Senator Susan Collins (R-ME) is considering not seeking re-election in the face of her plunging approval ratings. Collins’ approval ratings have been dropping since Trump became president, but before that, she had a 78% approval rating in Maine. That number has now fallen to 45%.
Collins blames “unceasing attacks by dark money groups” for her poor approval ratings.
Maine’s residents, who voted to support Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election, are displeased that Collins consistently votes alongside Trump. She voted against sending aid to the U.S.-Mexico border and more importantly, voted in favor of confirming Justice Brett Kavanaugh for the U.S. Supreme Court. Collins said she trusted that the far-right conservative nominee would protect Roe v. Wade. Since then, Kavanaugh has proved her wrong by voting to allow strict abortion laws to pass in Louisiana.
re: #316 A Mom Anon
So no big giant plan, but every little tangible thing matters, yes?
Yes, the little tangibles matter, and it’ll be appreciated by the teachers.
re: #308 Joe Bacon 🌹
Aw shit, I had Lichtenstein in the LGF pool! 😢😢😢😢😢😢
Not the Duchy of Grand Fenwick?
re: #306 The Pie Overlord!
My surprise. Let me show you it.
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Again I come back to this:
This is bizarre. Does she know something the rest of us don’t? If so, why don’t we get to know if too? https://t.co/YNZ6xwu06N
— Jennifer Cohn (@jennycohn1) July 22, 2019
This might sound tinfoil-hattish, but what if it turns out vote totals were changed? Just enough in the states that matter, since the EC margin in MI/PA/WI was only 70K? What if the Dem leadership actually knows this, and would rather cover it up because they don’t think the American people can handle the truth?
re: #329 Targetpractice
Subsidies that will become the new norm, such that whoever wins next November can expect to find farmers on their doorstep with hands outstretched.
Eventually, we’ll have “farmers” who can’t run a straight furrow for 6 feet and whose fields have produced nothing but weeds for 20 years.
re: #333 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
Susan Collins May Not Seek Re-Election Due To Her Plunging Approval Rating
I really don’t buy it. She’s basically sending up a signal flare, begging for big donors to “convince” her to run
re: #317 Targetpractice
Charles Pierce opined ages ago that we’re getting ever closer to finding out that the Russians successfully changed votes in the election. And when that happens, whatever remains of our faith in the results of our elections will be done for.
Hacked voters do not go to parades for someone the DID NOT VOTE FOR! pic.twitter.com/DMkWoGADug
— anne morrison #ImpeachTheMF (@JagbusAnne) July 25, 2019
re: #337 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Eventually, we’ll have “farmers” who can’t run a straight furrow for 6 feet and whose fields have produced nothing but weeds for 20 years.
But who we must keep bailing out, not because they are vital to feeding our nation, but because “We can’t let the Chinese win!”
So what’s the problem? She fits right in with Trump’s gang of racists, bigots and con men. https://t.co/HVrb8AbHmb
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 25, 2019
re: #293 sagehen
Can you imagine the wailing from the left about Democrats not focusing on Trump?
Well, we may never know who the TurningPoint doofus was who put it up (maybe Candace?? Just speculatin’) but the artist who created the seal is doing just fine, so
there’s that…
As of Thursday afternoon, Leazott’s shirts were sold out. He said he had to start working with a fulfillment center just to meet the demand. He also revived the primary website for his brand, OneTermDonnie, which includes a paean to the American Civil Liberties Union, where the site says 10 percent of all sales will be directed.
re: #333 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
Susan Collins May Not Seek Re-Election Due To Her Plunging Approval Rating
The voters are telling you you’re an idiot, Susan.
re: #322 Eclectic Cyborg
“The cap comes in response to claims of significant abuse in last year’s $12 billion trade relief package.”
Cheating is only okay if Trump does it.
Cheating is ok when drumpf gets the largest cut.
re: #339 sagehen
Hacked voters do not go to parades for someone the DID NOT VOTE FOR! pic.twitter.com/DMkWoGADug
— anne morrison #ImpeachTheMF (@JagbusAnne) July 25, 2019
Hacking, as such, wouldn’t even be necessary. 5 or 10 million dollars is less than pocket change to the FSB, but it would buy plenty of passwords from hinterland Republican election officials, corrupt contractors, and others who could provide the necessary access.
re: #298 Eclectic Cyborg
Oh, so NOW he suddenly fucking cares about a black person?
Only that one black person.
re: #154 lawhawk
That’s a legit fear. That’s also I want to see this field of contenders winnowed down to 2-3 within a few weeks and that anyone with under 5 points drop out. We need to focus on who has best chance to win, and if you’re eking out a 1% you have no chance. It’s your vanity talking, not your vision to all Americans (or even Democrats).
The sooner we get to 1, the better we can focus on hammering Trump at every opportunity and the GOPers backing him.
That’s it, keep our eyes on the long game.
re: #333 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Maine voters are dumb for re-electing her over and over again. How many times can she fool them by claiming to be moderate when her votes prove otherwise?
re: #342 Belafon
Can you imagine the wailing from the left about Democrats not focusing on Trump?
I find it easier to imagine the orgasmic joy that the Repubs would have displayed in arguing that, because the Dems had spent so much time obsessing about Russia, that must mean they agree that Trump is innocent. And that the whole thing had been a waste of time because we already knew Russia had interfered, is continuing to interfere, and we didn’t need a day of testimony from Robert Mueller to tell us that.
The Mueller investigation didn’t, and couldn’t, touch the massive Russian influence operations at the state, regional, and local levels. These predate the ‘16 election by quite a bit, Jade Helm, the sudden credibility of the Texas and California secession hoaxes among yokel GOP committees, the pro-Russian fanaticism of top pulpit pimps, etc.
This could provide a ready conduit for directly subverting election results in key states.
A Democratic administration will have no trouble getting to the bottom of this, with potentially catastrophic results for conservatives at every level of government, as well as in the media, religion, and academia.
The Republicans will do literally anything, including mass violence and terrorism by their defacto militia, to keep from losing next year. Be prepared.
re: #349 Patricia Kayden
Maine voters are dumb for re-electing her over and over again. How many times can she fool them by claiming to be moderate when her votes prove otherwise?
Yep. If she were truly moderate, or even rational, she would be expelled from the Republican Party.
Well, at least some Dems are capable of showing a spine…
“The job of leaders is to lead,” said Tom Malinowski, the first freshman Democrat from a swing district to call for an impeachment inquiry. “I’ve never expected the public to be ahead of their representatives in … deciding what our responsibility is.”https://t.co/Fxj58Ut5ac
— Tom Malinowski (@Malinowski) July 25, 2019
I get why some want to steer things to the second half of yesterday, as it seemed the only time Mueller got really animated was when he was talking about Russian interference in the election. Which stands in stark contrast to the first half of the day, when the discussion was about the criminality of Donald Trump, where the answers were largely “Yes,” “No,” and (paraphrased) “Read the Report.” But we need to refrain from attempting to turn a sow’s ear into a silk purse. While we got some good soundbytes, we came up largely empty on new revelations with regards to whether or not Donny is a crook. Trying to spin Mueller’s more expansive answers about Russia as the whole point of the exercise is rather embarrassing.
re: #354 Targetpractice
Not surprising. Questions about Trump can quickly make Mueller worry about being too partisan. Questions about a foreign power interfering in a US election should be taken as something above our party partisanship and taken very seriously since they are attacks on our very political system.
re: #353 Interesting Times
Well, at least some Dems are capable of showing a spine…
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