Wow: Louis Cole & Genevieve Artadi of KNOWER With the WDR Big Band: Gotta Be Another Way [VIDEO]

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Louis Cole is a rocket engine in this incredible live jam with the German WDR big band led by tenor sax master Bob Mintzer.

“Gotta Be Another Way” (composed by Genevieve Artadi and Louis Cole) is one of the earlier compositions of the independent electronic music duo “KNOWER”. WDR BIG BAND chief conductor Bob Mintzer wrote a fresh big band arrangement, featuring Bob Mintzer on tenor saxophone and Johan Hörlén on alto saxophone.

This video was produced at the rehearsal in May 2019 at the WDR Funkhaus Studio 4 in Cologne, Germany.

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1
I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 26, 2019 • 7:10:20pm

Is Barack’s book deal the new butter emails?

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2019 • 7:12:17pm

re: #1 I Would Prefer Not To

Is Barack’s book deal the new butter emails?

It’s the new NK nukes.

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2019 • 7:21:05pm

Barack’s book deal is the but her emails of Benghazis.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 26, 2019 • 7:22:44pm

re: #3 teleskiguy

Barack’s book deal is the but her emails of Benghazis.

We are killing this thread.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jul 26, 2019 • 7:32:09pm

re: #204 Belafon

I’m in agreement with JK Rowling that great men aren’t necessarily good men.

“If it is possible to be great without being good, I do not believe we can deny the quality of greatness to…” (can’t remember who said that or about whom. Stalin or Hitler, I think.)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 26, 2019 • 7:34:18pm

re: #3 teleskiguy

Barack’s book deal is the but her emails of Benghazis.

BENGHAZI!!!!! Everybody DRINK!!!!!

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jaunte  Jul 26, 2019 • 7:45:35pm

Is this THE most corrupt timeline?

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stpaulbear  Jul 26, 2019 • 7:46:15pm

No rain or wind in St. Paul but there is an amazing lightning storm happening in between and above the clouds north and south of the downtown area. Most of it is out in the open.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 26, 2019 • 7:46:33pm

re: #7 jaunte

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Is this THE most corrupt timeline?

Both Rand and his father have been useful idiots for years now.

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stpaulbear  Jul 26, 2019 • 7:51:46pm

Kentucky Billboard Calls McConnell “Putin’s Mitch”

A new billboard along I-65 in Hart County is raising some eyebrows. The sign reads, “Putin’s Mitch” and features a photo of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 26, 2019 • 8:11:31pm

re: #1 I Would Prefer Not To

Is Barack’s book deal the new butter emails?

Parkey??

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 26, 2019 • 8:32:45pm

I know that President Obama doesn’t owe us jack shit at this point but I wish he’d go petty as fuck, release every piece of documentation / correspondence regarding his book / media deals, say he welcomes any investigation and then challenge Trump to a public weigh in on a calibrated scale.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 26, 2019 • 8:33:48pm
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Belafon  Jul 26, 2019 • 8:35:20pm

re: #13 Dread Pirate

The House Judiciary committee is still taking care of work, and, for the rest of them, it’s time you can use to get in their faces.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 26, 2019 • 8:42:00pm
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Belafon  Jul 26, 2019 • 8:46:17pm

re: #15 Dread Pirate

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That could get Oracle in trouble, and, if Amazon loses the bid, cost the government a lot of money to prove it didn’t cause the loss.

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2019 • 9:01:18pm

It’s been all the rage on jam band Twitter this summer. So I bought a six pack.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2019 • 9:03:52pm

re: #15 Dread Pirate

Oracle did the Obamacare rollout and fucked it up royally. They deserved to be left out because they showed they can’t handle a large project for the government.

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Targetpractice  Jul 26, 2019 • 9:07:54pm

re: #13 Dread Pirate

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One of those things that always gets me is that Repubs who will spend so much of their time talking about the “dignity of work” and balking at the idea of federally-mandated vacation pay/days…have no problem with going on six-weeks paid vacation.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 26, 2019 • 9:09:31pm

Big if true

Gates of Hell

night people

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jul 26, 2019 • 9:11:28pm

re: #19 Targetpractice

One of those things that always gets me is that Repubs who will spend so much of their time talking about the “dignity of work” and balking at the idea of federally-mandated vacation pay/days…have no problem with going on six-weeks paid vacation.

To say nothing of their thee-days-a-week, three-weeks-per-month regular schedule.

(To be fair, attending Congressional sessions is not all their work.)

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Belafon  Jul 26, 2019 • 9:26:57pm
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Belafon  Jul 26, 2019 • 9:29:14pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 26, 2019 • 9:33:51pm
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MsJ  Jul 26, 2019 • 9:35:43pm

re: #23 Belafon

[“The attention the president is paying to a black rapper incarcerated abroad is not mainly about winning over black Americans but keeping existing supporters, mostly white Americans, from defecting.” ]

I must be missing something. Why would this prevent white voters from leaving? Trump’s people hate black folks. What an I missing?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 26, 2019 • 9:37:44pm

re: #25 MsJ

I must be missing something. Why would this prevent white voters from leaving? Trump’s people hate black folks. What an I missing?

He is trying to give cover to the racists. “See, he loves black people so much he helps them get out of jail.”

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sagehen  Jul 26, 2019 • 9:39:11pm

re: #24 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Plagues visited upon Sheldon Adelson?

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Targetpractice  Jul 26, 2019 • 9:41:00pm

re: #22 Belafon

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William Lewis  Jul 26, 2019 • 9:43:52pm

re: #25 MsJ

I must be missing something. Why would this prevent white voters from leaving? Trump’s people hate black folks. What an I missing?

The “I have a black friend” card.

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Targetpractice  Jul 26, 2019 • 9:46:31pm

re: #24 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Whoa, wait a minute. The plague of locusts was supposed to be further down on the list. Hey God, go home, you’re drunk!

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TedStriker  Jul 26, 2019 • 9:55:32pm

re: #29 William Lewis

The “I have a black friend” card.

I thought that was Rhinestone and Burlap?

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mmmirele  Jul 26, 2019 • 9:58:02pm

This is probably more of an interest to Anonymouse, but I’ll just put it here for your erudition.

Evangelical Christian Twitter has been shook up today by a statement from one Josh Harris, author of the courtship-promoting “I Kissed Dating Goodbye,” that he’d pretty much lost his faith. This came hot on the heels of a statement last week by his wife that they were separating.

The reaction from some quarters was typical. In the time honored Evangelical Christian fashion of shooting the wounded, a prominent Calvinist preacher quoted 1 John 2:19, which basically says, “they are no longer a part of us, but they never really were part of us.” In other words, Harris wasn’t really saved. There was also a lot of pitying dreck without understanding.

A couple of things more to know about Harris. He wrote the book when he was 20 and 21, and it was published when he was 22. He didn’t court his wife, he dated her (contrary to the book). And while still very young, he was named the pastor of Covenant Life Church, a large Sovereign Grace church in Maryland, a church that had sexual abuse coverups. (Name of church has changed, Harris is no longer the pastor, and it’s no longer part of Sovereign Grace.)

Keeping those facts in mind, the reactions from other parts of the Twittersphere make more sense. Some people still want him to come clean about the child sexual abuse at CLC. Others are justifiably pissed off at him because their parents read “I Kissed Dating Goodbye” as some sort of manual for purity. They pushed the book on their kids in the late ’90s and early ’00s as THE way to make sure one got into a good marriage without compromising purity. (Seriously, not having sex before marriage was THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, not so many other things that make up a good marriage.) Instead, people ended up in bad marriages without really knowing the other person and lives got very messed up. Harris was also very anti-LGBTQ. His apology in that area is falling on mainly deaf ears.

I’ve been asking people to give Harris the “grace and space” to figure things out. The dude was basically in a high control group—a cult, if you will-for decades and he’s trying to make his way outside of that world now. He needs time. This doesn’t mean I approve of what he’s doing. I do think he has more apologizing to do. But beating up on the guy isn’t going to help. Nor is giving him the left foot of fellowship, as so many Christians are wont to do.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 26, 2019 • 10:18:23pm
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MsJ  Jul 26, 2019 • 10:19:21pm

Fuck this guy.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 26, 2019 • 10:25:01pm

re: #34 MsJ

Mitch….. Let the Corruption flow thu you Mitch. Can you feel the power of the Corruption Mitch???

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Targetpractice  Jul 26, 2019 • 10:27:44pm

“NO! YOU MUST NOT READ FROM THE BOOK!”

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2019 • 10:29:55pm

One and a half YEARS.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 26, 2019 • 10:34:00pm

re: #34 MsJ

Fuck this guy.

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That crook didn’t receive “donations” from voting machine companies.

That motherfather received BRIBES!

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teleskiguy  Jul 26, 2019 • 10:34:11pm
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MsJ  Jul 26, 2019 • 10:35:51pm

OMG. England, W.T.F. have you done?

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plansbandc  Jul 26, 2019 • 10:38:44pm

re: #17 teleskiguy

It’s decent enough on it’s own, especially the lime. I think where it really shines though is as a mixer.

If I started caring about the calories in my booze consumption, I might actually move towards them as a way to ease off the hard stuff.

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plansbandc  Jul 26, 2019 • 10:41:14pm

re: #24 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

We all better hope that shit doesn’t turn into a locust swarm.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 26, 2019 • 10:44:59pm

re: #40 MsJ

OMG. England, W.T.F. have you done?

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Prime Minister Bamm Bamm Rubble has assembled a cabinet full of B-holes.

None of them, ESPECIALLY BAMM BAMM, have what it takes to be an A-Hole!

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jul 26, 2019 • 11:13:32pm

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 11:15:21pm

re: #32 mmmirele

This is probably more of an interest to Anonymouse, but I’ll just put it here for your erudition.

Evangelical Christian Twitter has been shook up today by a statement from one Josh Harris, author of the courtship-promoting “I Kissed Dating Goodbye,” that he’d pretty much lost his faith. This came hot on the heels of a statement last week by his wife that they were separating.

[Embedded content]

The reaction from some quarters was typical. In the time honored Evangelical Christian fashion of shooting the wounded, a prominent Calvinist preacher quoted 1 John 2:19, which basically says, “they are no longer a part of us, but they never really were part of us.” In other words, Harris wasn’t really saved. There was also a lot of pitying dreck without understanding.

A couple of things more to know about Harris. He wrote the book when he was 20 and 21, and it was published when he was 22. He didn’t court his wife, he dated her (contrary to the book). And while still very young, he was named the pastor of Covenant Life Church, a large Sovereign Grace church in Maryland, a church that had sexual abuse coverups. (Name of church has changed, Harris is no longer the pastor, and it’s no longer part of Sovereign Grace.)

Keeping those facts in mind, the reactions from other parts of the Twittersphere make more sense. Some people still want him to come clean about the child sexual abuse at CLC. Others are justifiably pissed off at him because their parents read “I Kissed Dating Goodbye” as some sort of manual for purity. They pushed the book on their kids in the late ’90s and early ’00s as THE way to make sure one got into a good marriage without compromising purity. (Seriously, not having sex before marriage was THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, not so many other things that make up a good marriage.) Instead, people ended up in bad marriages without really knowing the other person and lives got very messed up. Harris was also very anti-LGBTQ. His apology in that area is falling on mainly deaf ears.

I’ve been asking people to give Harris the “grace and space” to figure things out. The dude was basically in a high control group—a cult, if you will-for decades and he’s trying to make his way outside of that world now. He needs time. This doesn’t mean I approve of what he’s doing. I do think he has more apologizing to do. But beating up on the guy isn’t going to help. Nor is giving him the left foot of fellowship, as so many Christians are wont to do.

Wow.

This guy really had some hateful positions against LGBT people and women serving in church positions.

I don’t blame LGBT people for not taking his word for his repentance toward his treatment of them, since he opposed marriage equality, claimed “homosexuality” is a mental disorder and thought they should be locked away from society, &c.

It is noteworthy in that Instagram post (Instagram no longer allows people without accounts there to read public posts, so I can’t see it and the comments) he thanks various Christians and atheists for their understanding, while pointing out other Christians have been hateful to him.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 11:17:20pm

re: #32 mmmirele

The reaction from some quarters was typical. In the time honored Evangelical Christian fashion of shooting the wounded, a prominent Calvinist preacher quoted 1 John 2:19, which basically says, “they are no longer a part of us, but they never really were part of us.” In other words, Harris wasn’t really saved. There was also a lot of pitying dreck without understanding.

That is the Biblical justification for the “no true Christian” argument. Evangelicals aren’t the only ones who use it; people across all sects of Christianity use it when someone becomes an apostate.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 11:18:10pm

re: #42 plansbandc

We all better hope that shit doesn’t turn into a locust swarm.

I would not cry very much if they ate Sheldon Adelson’s hotel.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 26, 2019 • 11:30:36pm

Shouldn’t be too hard to find:
Hobbs Police searching for murder suspect

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 11:33:23pm

Today is Korean War Veterans Armistice Day.

The usual procedure for the president is to issue a proclamation for the day, so naturally Trump didn’t do it.

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MsJ  Jul 26, 2019 • 11:35:43pm
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MsJ  Jul 26, 2019 • 11:36:32pm

re: #48 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Linky no works.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 26, 2019 • 11:39:54pm

re: #51 MsJ

Linky no works.

Fixed (I think)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 26, 2019 • 11:48:48pm

re: #50 MsJ

Wow. I watched that video.

The GOP continues to descend into lawlessness.

If Rep. Roy thought the Democrats on the committee were overreaching, he would present evidence to that effect.

Instead, temper tantrum.

Messaging for the next election needs to show the disregard for the rule of law by lots of Republicans.

These would be the same Republicans who went on a snipe hunt over Hillary Clinton’s E-mail (when it was not illegal; they’re the ones who pushed for a change in the law) who all had private E-mail addresses themselves.

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2019 • 1:03:01am

Apparently the two loud booms I heard earlier were from a semi smacking into a light pole on the next road over. What’s amazing is that I didn’t have a single guest call me to ask WTF since it happened at around 1am.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 27, 2019 • 1:08:14am

re: #24 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

…somebody scored a triple locust on the big slots apparently.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 27, 2019 • 1:24:21am

You can never go wrong with Bach:

Bach - Harpsichord Concerto No. 6 in F major, BWV 1057

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 1:36:50am

re: #30 Targetpractice

Whoa, wait a minute. The plague of locusts was supposed to be further down on the list. Hey God, go home, you’re drunk!

There is still one species of plague locusts in North America. The Rocky Mountain Locust was made extinct by 1902.

The High Plains Locust has not swarmed since the 1930s.

Locust plagues require certain conditions to be met: A bunch of rain causing rapid and massive vegetation growth, followed by crowding of grasshoppers.

Stopping a locust plague requires catching it as it starts (or before). We had an incident here of a budding locust plague which was fought off by the state with biplanes and insecticide.

That said, it’s preferable to kill off locusts with less-damaging methods than insecticides to the environment. Mauritania funded a study which found that a certain fungus will eat through the exoskeleton of a locust and kill it from the inside out. They’ve since exported that research to other countries in Africa.

Since locusts are considered a delicacy in many countries, there is also a problem with spraying versus people eating the locusts. In Saudi Arabia in a recent locust plague, the government had to warn people not to eat the locusts. In Yemen when the government proposed spraying locusts, locals objected.

Pound-for-pound, locusts actually eat only a fraction of the vegetation that cattle do, and provide far more nutrients than beef. They also produce far less methane.

That’s more than you ever wanted to know about eating locusts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 2:07:17am

re: #1 I Would Prefer Not To

Is Barack’s book deal the new butter emails?

How dare the (former) President use his office to make money?!?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 2:08:02am

re: #5 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

“If it is possible to be great without being good, I do not believe we can deny the quality of greatness to…” (can’t remember who said that or about whom. Stalin or Hitler, I think.)

We want our heroes to be impeccably virtuous when that is only rarely the case.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 2:08:47am

re: #12 goddamnedfrank

I know that President Obama doesn’t owe us jack shit at this point but I wish he’d go petty as fuck, release every piece of documentation / correspondence regarding his book / media deals, say he welcomes any investigation and then challenge Trump to a public weigh in on a calibrated scale.

starting with comparing their tax records for the past 15 years…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 2:14:57am

re: #40 MsJ

OMG. England, W.T.F. have you done?

Double space after full stops?

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Targetpractice  Jul 27, 2019 • 2:22:46am

re: #58 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How dare the (former) President use his office to make money?!?

I think I’ll quote Malcolm Tucker on this:

“People don’t like their politicians to be comfortable. They don’t like you having expenses. They don’t like you being paid. They’d rather you lived in a fucking cave.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 2:25:52am

One of the arguments that people offered about Trump is that he is a successful businessman and independent millionaire and not beholden to any moneyed interests…

really

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A Mom Anon  Jul 27, 2019 • 2:29:02am

re: #17 teleskiguy

The best part of that tweet is that I now know you have a palm tree and a flamingo at your place. Also too, doggo photo? Please?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 2:51:32am

re: #62 Targetpractice

I think I’ll quote Malcolm Tucker on this:

“People don’t like their politicians to be comfortable. They don’t like you having expenses. They don’t like you being paid. They’d rather you lived in a fucking cave.”

Which is precisely why only wealthy people can run for our state legislature here.

I thought about it, to run against my Republican senator, but he’s very rich and I’m not. The state only pays $12,000 a year for a senator, you’re required to live in Lincoln during the legislative session and maintain a home in your district (four hundred miles away for us). He can afford to do that, I cannot. Therefore I am locked out of running for state government.

Not paying legislators means only rich people can be legislators.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 2:54:29am

Bypassing Trump, California Reaches Fuel-Efficiency Deal With Automakers (Governing Magazine, a magazine for politicians)

California has struck a deal with four major automakers to boost their vehicles’ fuel-emissions standards, escalating the state’s standoff with the Trump administration over federal efforts to freeze such improvements.

The deal announced Thursday commits the automakers to reducing emissions of greenhouse gases and other pollutants from their cars and light-duty trucks. That will require an increase in overall mileage to roughly 50 miles per gallon by model year 2026, one year later than fuel-efficiency targets that had been set by President Barack Obama’s administration, which the Trump administration is moving to roll back.

Ford, Honda, BMW of North America and Volkswagen Group of America signed on to the deal with the California Air Resources Board, promising to implement the targets across their entire fleet, regardless of what the federal government does.

(more)

Shorter Gavin Newsome: Piss off, Donald Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 2:58:15am

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹

Not paying legislators means only rich people can be legislators.

We get the government we pay for

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 3:02:30am

re: #67 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We get the government we pay for

There was a referendum on the 2016 ballot here to raise state legislators’ pay, promoted not by legislators but by citizens who wanted to expand the pool of able politicians to run for office.

I stumped for the referendum locally, which passed in my township. Overall, it went down in flames (why are we paying those lazy no good &c &c).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 3:08:37am

re: #68 Anymouse 🌹

There was a referendum on the 2016 ballot here to raise state legislators’ pay, promoted not by legislators but by citizens who wanted to expand the pool of able politicians to run for office.

I stumped for the referendum locally, which passed in my township. Overall, it went down in flames (why are we paying those lazy no good &c &c).

same people who want law and order but cut taxes to pay for prisons

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 27, 2019 • 3:23:16am

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 4:19:41am

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

same people who want law and order but cut taxes to pay for prisons

And the death penalty restoration in the state (thanks, Pete Ricketts for financing that entire debacle out of your pocket).

Wingnuts gotta wing:

No, the Democratic Party is not the party in charge of Puerto Rico’s government. The PNP is.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 27, 2019 • 4:34:48am

re: #40 MsJ

You’ll take the Oxford comma from my cold, dead hands. With modern proportional fonts, double space after a full stop isn’t a point to be argued, it is just wrong. Etc.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 4:39:03am

I have a suspicion Jim Wright is angling for a new blog post from his comment section on Twitter.

For hours people have been commenting on the fifth columnist Christian sects which do not stand up against Evangelical Christian fascists, that being all of them (as such, they are complicit in their silence). Individual Christians do, no church at all has. None.

Numerous people have pointed out that those of us who denied the Holy Spirit (atheists) are condemned by the New Testament to hell as the single unforgivable sin, and no sect, Protestant or Catholic has ever rejected that dogma. (No church can deny that dogma, as that repudiates the New Testament.)

Amongst other notations are such utterances as Pope Francis saying trans people are as dangerous to the family as nuclear weapons. (The Vatican specifically rejects the scientific definition of gender.)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 4:42:03am

re: #72 Colère Tueur de Lapin

You’ll take the Oxford comma from my cold, dead hands. With modern proportional fonts, double space after a full stop isn’t a point to be argued, it is just wrong. Etc.

I get confused when I’m using my computer versus using my typewriter. Two spaces? One? Screw it and just start a new line for each sentence?

My former book publisher put out a style rule saying the Oxford comma should not be used. That resulted in every editor and copyeditor in the company saying “no.”

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2019 • 4:45:16am

re: #36 Targetpractice

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“NO! YOU MUST NOT READ FROM THE BOOK!”

Probably at the Luxor.

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ericblair  Jul 27, 2019 • 4:47:09am

re: #15 Dread Pirate

“White House officials in recent weeks have shown Trump a document that alleges a large conspiracy to award Amazon a 10-year, $10 billion contract… The document, obtained by CNN, is identical to one created by Oracle’s top Washington lobbyist.”

I used to work for a federal contractor. From the CNN article, it looks like the contract got awarded to Amazon, then Oracle protested and took it to Federal court, lost, and now is putting a shit-ton of political pressure on shithead and his gooper minions in Congress to tear up the award. So the winner has been decided in court, but they’re trying to stop the DoD from signing the paperwork to execute the contract.

You’ll need a real expert in the Federal Acquisition Regulations to nail down who has and hasn’t violated what, because we never had to deal with shit this fucked up. All I can say is that in general, the government side of the contracts process is full of people who don’t quite know what they’re doing, who make a bunch of mistakes or show favoritism, but industry ignores a lot of it because they don’t want to piss off their customer too much. When the gloves come off, the contractor legal staff can tear the government to pieces because they’re usually a lot better at it and a lot better staffed. When Amazon files suit again and get discovery of the relevant government documents, I’d expect they’ll find a lot of interesting shit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 4:47:14am

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹

I get confused when I’m using my computer versus using my typewriter. Two spaces? One? Screw it and just start a new line for each sentence?

My former book publisher put out a style rule saying the Oxford comma should not be used. That resulted in every editor and copyeditor in the company saying “no.”

Lynne Truss (“Eats, Shoots and Leaves”) gives a good account of why the comma is so impossible in English. It is not just a matter of learning a lot of “If x then y” rules, it is a matter of appreciated grammar and the structure of the sentence you are forming (To people who comprehend neither grammar nor sentence structure).

And don’t even get me going on hyphenation.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 4:50:49am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 4:51:47am

re: #78 Anymouse 🌹

Milbank: Mitch McConnell is a Russian asset

Someday all their kompromat on Mitch and the GOP is going to come out…

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 4:52:14am

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Lynne Truss (“Eats, Shoots and Leaves”) gives a good account of why the comma is so impossible in English. It is not just a matter of learning a lot of “If x then y” rules, it is a matter of appreciated grammar and the structure of the sentence you are forming (To people who comprehend neither grammar nor sentence structure).

And don’t even get me going on hyphenation.

I have that book.

See also “Let’s eat Grandma!” versus “Let’s eat, Grandma!”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 4:54:44am

re: #76 ericblair

Oracle may also be simply playing Trump’s dislike for Amazon to their advantage. All’s fair in love and capitalism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 4:56:25am

re: #80 Anymouse 🌹

I have that book.

See also “Let’s eat Grandma!” versus “Let’s eat, Grandma!”

There is the famous story of the fellow who was “hanged over a comma”, although it is a bit overdramatized.

In Russia, there is a fellow who was beheaded over a full stop.

A condemned man appealed to the Czar for clemency.

The Czar sent a three-word reply with no puncutation:

kaznit’ nel’zya pomilovat’

with a full stop after the first word, it means “Execute him. Pardon denied”

with a full stop after the second word, it reads, “Execution forbidden. Pardon him”

They went with the first variant, although the second was intended

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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 27, 2019 • 4:59:22am

re: #76 ericblair

If there is a problem with the bidding process, the government can just throw out the bid and start from scratch. Happens all the time. No big deal.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 4:59:51am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Punctuation is a matter of life-and-death.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:04:38am

The “no true Christian” battle still going on at Stonekettle’s Twitter feed. It started yesterday with this tweet:

Precisely what I’ve said for decades. I care about actions, and no other sect has formally denounced Evangelicals in the name of their sect.

Even when the NIFB called for state execution of LGBT, the only people who called them out were atheists. Not even the UU Church or the gay-inclusive MCC (which other churches won’t let join the World Council of Churches) have condemned the NIFB officially.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:08:49am

re: #84 Anymouse 🌹

Punctuation is a matter of life-and-death.

punctuation is a matter of life and death, yes, and hyphenation is a life-and-death matter

*ahem*

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:09:12am

When libertarianism runs into reality:

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:11:37am

re: #86 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

punctuation is a matter of life and death, yes, and hyphenation is a life-and-death matter

*ahem*

You’ll pry my hyphens from my almost-dead and barely functioning keyboard. /s

(I’ve been using the ALT code to type the letter “z” for some time now, which sucks since it’s in my last name. I can’t afford a new computer though, and a USB keyboard doesn’t seem to work. The left shift key is also starting to fail.)

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:19:11am

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹

You’ll pry my hyphens from my almost-dead and barely functioning keyboard. /s

(I’ve been using the ALT code to type the letter “z” for some time now, which sucks since it’s in my last name. I can’t afford a new computer though, and a USB keyboard doesn’t seem to work. The left shift key is also starting to fail.)

Sounds like you’ll soon be forced to use the right shift key more soon and thus have to make more conservative comments.
//

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:23:46am

Hyphen when two or more words are combined to form a modifier, or something like that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:24:39am

re: #90 Barefoot Grin

Hyphen when two or more words are combined to form a modifier, or something like that.

Upding for that

or rather an up-ding

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:26:08am

re: #89 Feline Fearless Leader

Sounds like you’ll soon be forced to use the right shift key more soon and thus have to make more conservative comments.
//

LOL, my computer is conspiring against me.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:36:08am

re: #90 Barefoot Grin

Hyphen when two or more words are combined to form a modifier, or something like that.

There are no “official” rules in English for when you should use a hyphen.

It is most often used when:

a) separating the syllables of a word
b) breaking a word at the end of a line (LGF does this automatically because Mr. Johnson is very good at what he does)
c) when there is possible confusion over which word is modified by an adjective or adverb (the hyphen attaches it to the word modified)
d) prefixes and suffixes when a first glance does not provide clarity (example, refresh used to have a hyphen but no longer does, however, co-worker is recommended with a hyphen because the eye might be otherwise drawn to a first syllable “cow” which muddles the meaning). Another example is “re-creation” versus “recreation.”
e) Words which people become familiar with will generally lose a hyphen to a closed up style, for example E-mail (which is the way I still write it) from the 1990’s had mostly been altered to email by 2010.

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jeffreyw  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:37:23am

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:39:30am

re: #93 Anymouse 🌹

There are no “official” rules in English for when you should use a hyphen.

It is most often used when…

I love whenever somebody asks me to re-send a document and I get to reply “I resent that!”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:45:40am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I love whenever somebody asks me to re-send a document and I get to reply “I resent that!”

LOL.

Additionally, the hyphen is sometimes used to show that a pair of vowels are not a diphthong and should be pronounced separately (co-operate). The New Yorker style guide defaults to the dieresis (coöperate, reëlection).

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jeffreyw  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:47:39am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:48:57am

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹

LOL.

Additionally, the hyphen is sometimes used to show that a pair of vowels are not a diphthong and should be pronounced separately (co-operate). The New Yorker style guide defaults to the dieresis (coöperate, reëlection).

Citroeën

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:50:59am

re: #94 jeffreyw

Indigo Bunting there with the cardinal and woodpecker?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:52:14am

JFC

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:53:12am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:54:06am
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:54:06am

re: #97 jeffreyw

Forget the eggs and bacon. A whole plate of hash browns. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:55:24am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:57:05am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:59:46am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

Irish PM says hard Brexit would raise issue of Irish unification

and re-ignite the discussion of Scottish independence.

One of the major arguments against it during the 2014 referendum is that independence would leave Scotland stranded outside the EU with no guarantee of being accepted, as the UK (and likely Spain) would veto it - in the latter’s case, it did not want to set any sort of precedent for Catalonia.

Now the UK could not veto and Spain would be more likely to consider simply re-admitting part of the former UK…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 5:59:49am

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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Gee plenty of Republican controlled districts that have just as much poverty and crime but I guess it’s different because Baltimore can’t stand you.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:00:45am

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Gee plenty of Republican controlled districts that have just as much poverty and crime but I guess it’s different because Baltimore can’t stand you.

Those Orioles make Trump’s orange look bad.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:01:14am

In the RW mind, as championed by Trump, crime only happens when they let blacks and Latinos into good, solid white neighborhoods

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:01:28am

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah but Gym sucks Trump off, Cummings calls him on a life of bs. Sorry to be crude but I’m sick of this racist prick.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:02:11am

re: #108 Feline Fearless Leader

Those Orioles make Trump’s orange look bad.

They are on a modest two game winning steak :). #O’sfan

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:04:23am

BRUTAL BULLY!!11!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:06:14am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:07:56am

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

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BRUTAL BULLY!!11!!

So when are your allies introducing urban renewal? Oh wait, you don’t give a shit about the people in Cummings’ district. You’re just a bigoted fuck who can’t handle any criticism at all.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:09:15am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:11:29am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:13:26am
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jeffreyw  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:14:46am

re: #99 Feline Fearless Leader

Indigo Bunting there with the cardinal and woodpecker?

Yes. I keep hoping to catch a goldfinch to add that extra splash of bright to the photo. I am trying to get Mrs J to add a thistle feeder to the stump to increase the variety.

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jeffreyw  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:17:24am

re: #103 PhillyPretzel

Forget the eggs and bacon. A whole plate of hash browns. :)

I try to eat a balanced breakfast😁

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:17:41am

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trumpers and Trump excuse makers like to claim he does this to everyone and to some extent, yeah he’s a hateful asshole to everyone but Pelosi doesn’t get her district insulted this way. Trump is nothing but an ignorant trash talking fucker.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:18:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:18:54am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:20:19am

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Of course. I remember FNC snickering that Iraq was safer than Detroit too. God I hate that network.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:20:51am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:22:56am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:23:00am

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Cummings constituents know what he does but go ahead Kimberly tell people from Fox News that your party cares so much about Baltimore.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:23:51am

Fox News decides how the President acts. That should horrify people.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:27:34am

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

The answer’s simple enough: Donald Trump doesn’t think of black people as human beings. He, like a good many of his supporters, views them as a lesser species - human in appearance, but more akin to some degraded specimen of the genus homo of lesser or perhaps more primitive status.

Same as the so-called “race realists”, etc.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:29:19am

Fox News only “cares” about our cities as a cudgel to attack the people who live there and to attack their representatives. Plenty of impoverished and high crime rate Republican held districts but FNC never would do that? Why because FNC stays how right wing populism works, keep whites convinced they’re always better than poc.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:29:41am

re: #128 Dr Lizardo

The answer’s simple enough: Donald Trump doesn’t think of black people as human beings. He, like a good many of his supporters, views them as a lesser species - human in appearance, but more akin to some degraded specimen of the genus homoof lesser or perhaps more primitive status.

Same as the so-called “race realists”, etc.

Exactly.

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:31:39am

re: #120 HappyWarrior

Trumpers and Trump excuse makers like to claim he does this to everyone and to some extent, yeah he’s a hateful asshole to everyone but Pelosi doesn’t get her district insulted this way. Trump is nothing but an ignorant trash talking fucker.

He wouldn’t dare.

Twitter HQ is in her district.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:33:08am

re: #109 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In the RW mind, as championed by Trump, crime only happens when they let blacks and Latinos into good, solid white neighborhoods

100 years ago, Trump would have led the mob in destroying that district.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:34:09am

re: #132 Belafon

100 years ago, Trump would have led the mob in destroying that district.

I’m sure he was a Tulsa pogromskiii or one in Russia in a previous life.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:34:31am

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

BRUTAL BULLY!!11!!

The border is mostly empty, otherwise it would be harder for migrants to cross.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:35:36am

re: #134 Belafon

The border is mostly empty, otherwise it would be harder for migrants to cross.

Good morning people. Time to write and get away from the BS of the trump admin. Hope everyone has a great day.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:36:21am

re: #135 I Would Prefer Not To

Good morning people. Time to write and get away from the BS of the trump admin. Hope everyone has a great day.

When he goes, there needs to be celebrating on the streets.

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DangerMan  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:37:59am

re: #136 HappyWarrior

When he goes, there needs to be celebrating on the streets.

tacos and margaritas

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:39:20am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:42:40am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:42:49am

re: #137 DangerMan

tacos and margaritas

I’m in.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:44:09am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:46:27am

re: #138 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

At Oak Ridge National Laboratory in eastern Tennessee, physicist Leah Broussard is trying to open a portal to a parallel universe.

Don’t do it! There are Nazis waiting at the other end to invade!!!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:48:32am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:48:53am

I tried to page about the Equifax data breach settlement but I just keep getting an error message. Oh well, don’t forget to make your claim! equifaxbreachsettlement.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:49:33am

re: #143 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Exactly.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:51:53am

re: #144 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I tried to page about the Equifax data breach settlement but I just keep getting an error message. Oh well, don’t forget to make your claim! equifaxbreachsettlement.com

I qualified but my wife didn’t.

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:52:02am

re: #144 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I tried to page about the Equifax data breach settlement but I just keep getting an error message. Oh well, don’t forget to make your claim! equifaxbreachsettlement.com

Your Page appears in the Recent Pages column—3 times. I didn’t click anything, for fear of breaking something.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:54:04am

re: #147 wrenchwench

Your Page appears in the Recent Pages column—3 times. I didn’t click anything, for fear of breaking something.

Whoops. I didn’t know it went through because I kept getting an error message! Sorry!

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wrenchwench  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:55:02am

re: #148 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Whoops. I didn’t know it went through because I kept getting an error message! Sorry!

No problem. Does this mean I can get $375?

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:55:12am

re: #148 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Whoops. I didn’t know it went through because I kept getting an error message! Sorry!

That happened to someone else recently.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:57:13am

re: #146 Belafon

I qualified but my wife didn’t.

Your wife should apply for a credit card or something so she can build a credit history in case, dog forbid, something happened to you and she needs one.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:58:11am

re: #149 wrenchwench

No problem. Does this mean I can get $375?

I applied for me, my wife and my mother and we’re all getting checks!

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Old Liberal  Jul 27, 2019 • 6:59:29am

re: #23 Belafon

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They are high profile stunts to “prove” he’s not racist. Anyone who “proves” by showing off “ friends” is racist.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:00:04am
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:02:32am

re: #151 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I applied and got a success screen and a claim number. I selected the prepaid card for payment.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:03:46am

re: #154 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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He calls The Squad anti American yet he talks shit about places where Americans live. As an Orioles fan, I’ve had my problems with the Angelos ownership but they are not bigots and I know they care about that community.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:06:10am

Trump shows more respect to Kim Jong Un than he does domestic critics.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:06:30am

re: #156 HappyWarrior

He calls The Squad anti American yet he talks shit about places where Americans live. As an Orioles fan, I’ve had my problems with the Angelos ownership but they are not bigots and I know they care about that community.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:07:45am

re: #158 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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She’s their new HRC. Someone to project their rage on. Trump sees that too.

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Chrysicat  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:08:23am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:08:46am

The right wing ideology needs enemies to function. Without them, their base might realize who is actually picking their pockets.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:09:22am

re: #138 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Maybe she’s actually trying to close the inter-dimensional rift opened by summoning Yog-Sothoth, which explains the current nightmarish hellscape we’re all experiencing.

I figure it was opened sometime early in the morning (GMT) on June 23rd, 2016.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:09:33am

re: #158 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Walmart’s online store is selling a 5-foot-6 cardboard cutout of Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for $64.95, a potential political prop that shows how she and “the squad” have become the newest villains of the right

I have mentioned this before, but the Right gets all worked up over AOC not only because she is ethnic, urban and educated, but because she is hot - and those misogynist bastards get a boner over her and know that they have no chance…that brings out the very, very worst side of some of our very, very, very worst people.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:16:57am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have mentioned this before, but the Right gets all worked up over AOC not only because she is ethnic, urban and educated, but because she is hot and those misogynist bastards get a boner over her and know that they have no chance…that brings out the very, very worst side of some of our very, very, very worst people.

Some of it’s that, but it’s mostly a minority women who won’t shut up. I bet she won’t even put Esq. at the end of their names.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:17:32am

Morning Lizardim.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:18:28am

re: #164 Belafon

Some of it’s that, but it’s mostly a minority women who won’t shut up. I bet she won’t even put Esq. at the end of their names.

yes, and they are upset because they cannot make derisive comments about her weight or her age or appearance

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:19:22am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:20:29am

re: #164 Belafon

Some of it’s that, but it’s mostly a minority women who won’t shut up. I bet she won’t even put Esq. at the end of their names.

She dares to vocally speak out against the sham they tell us is the best economic system in the world. I think that upsets them the most. They know they wouldn’t be shit if not for their connections and race.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:20:56am

re: #127 HappyWarrior

Fox News decides how the President acts. That should horrify people.

It horrifies me.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:21:16am

re: #167 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I’m sure I’ve walked past there. I’m going to Georgetown tonight funnily enough.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:22:04am

re: #169 Eclectic Cyborg

It horrifies me.

Pretty much makes our Executive Branch the political wing of Fox.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:22:48am

re: #171 Feline Fearless Leader

Pretty much makes our Executive Branch the political wing of Fox.

Yes. Trump doesn’t use FNC. FNC uses him and they know it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:23:01am

re: #171 Feline Fearless Leader

Pretty much makes our Executive Branch the political wing of Fox.

The GOP is the political wing of Fox

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:24:13am

“Walmart’s online store is selling a 5-foot-6 cardboard cutout of Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for $64.95, a potential political prop that shows how she and “the squad” have become the newest villains of the right.”

What scares me is that the RWNJs are going to buy these things and use them for target practice.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:24:30am

re: #138 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

No, it does not.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:25:06am

So much of what is shaped as “American” on FNC comes from an elderly bigot who believes not in the American Republic but the British Empire.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:26:14am

re: #174 Eclectic Cyborg

“Walmart’s online store is selling a 5-foot-6 cardboard cutout of Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for $64.95, a potential political prop that shows how she and “the squad” have become the newest villains of the right.”

What scares me is that the RWNJs are going to buy these things and use them for target practice.

That’s exactly what they’re there for. I mean fuck Trump but punch me in the gut if I spend that money on a rage target.

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Chrysicat  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:26:37am

re: #175 Colère Tueur de Lapin

No, it does not.

I beg to differ. It doesn’t ever end well for the “good” universe. Which it would take a lot of convincing for me to believe we are. For us, this could be an escape to a world that either has never known fascism or at the very least, isn’t back to the binary choice between it and communism that our great-grandparents thought they had managed to prevent.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:27:27am

re: #155 PhillyPretzel

I applied and got a success screen and a claim number. I selected the prepaid card for payment.

I went there a couple days ago. Equifax said my data was compromised and my wife’s wasn’t. (Strange, because I am the joint signature on her accounts.)

I signed up for the credit monitoring rather than $125. Something like Credit Karma requires a cell phone (out of luck here) and damage from identity theft could far exceed that amount.

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Old Liberal  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:28:01am

re: #174 Eclectic Cyborg

“Walmart’s online store is selling a 5-foot-6 cardboard cutout of Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for $64.95, a potential political prop that shows how she and “the squad” have become the newest villains of the right.”

What scares me is that the RWNJs are going to buy these things and use them for target practice.

Of course. I’m just glad that the goobers will waste $65 plus tax & shipping on this. The poorer they get the happier I am.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:29:22am

re: #158 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Yet another reason to continue my boycott of Wal*Mart (not too hard these days since they’re sixty miles away).

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Chrysicat  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:30:03am

re: #180 Old Liberal

Of course. I’m just glad that the goobers will waste $65 plus tax & shipping on this. The poorer they get the happier I am.

Careful, that way lies their path. After all, they can be happy when they should be miserable as long as their foes are deprived of even more comforts and even necessities than they are!

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:30:09am

re: #179 Anymouse 🌹

I have Life Lock. I also already have my credit frozen by Equifax because of the Target breach, at my request.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:32:32am

Discover offers credit monitoring services for free.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:33:03am

FOX still spreading lies;

Because Louis Farrakhan is a Trump supporter. But you knew that.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:33:22am

re: #184 Belafon

Discover offers credit monitoring services for free.

As do many other credit card accounts these days. I also have Credit Karma - I got notified of a potential breach a couple of weeks ago.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:33:38am

re: #164 Belafon

Some of it’s that, but it’s mostly a minority women who won’t shut up. I bet she won’t even put Esq. at the end of their names.

The Esq. requirement applies only to men. So she’s just following the rules!

What I don’t understand is his rule about the comma after the and. Is this a common typo?

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Old Liberal  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:34:17am

re: #182 Chrysicat

Careful, that way lies their path. After all, they can be happy when they should be miserable as long as their foes are deprived of even more comforts and even necessities than they are!

Their resentment has no bottom. Those that have millions resent crumbs for “the other”.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:35:30am

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹

FOX still spreading lies;

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Because Louis Farrakhan is a Trump supporter. But you knew that.

Farrakhan is all yours FNC. I don’t know a single black person who looks up to him.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:36:00am

re: #187 Hecuba’s daughter

It might be a typo because when making a list after each item is a comma. Usually there is a comma before the “and.” ( ,and)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:36:06am

So I just took a look at the company who sells the AOC cutout on walmart.com.

They also sell cutouts of: Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden. Beto O’Rourke, RBG and of course Hillary Clinton in addition to various other historical and popular figures.

No Republican politician cutouts at all though they do offer one of Vladimir Putin.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:38:41am

re: #189 HappyWarrior

Farrakhan is all yours FNC. I don’t know a single black person who looks up to him.

The point is to lie to their white viewers. “See a black racist who hates whites and is a Democrat.”

It doesn’t matter that the Democrat part isn’t true, just like when a Republican gets caught criming and they put a D after his name.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:39:26am

re: #190 PhillyPretzel

It might be a typo because when making a list after each item is a comma. Usually there is a comma before the and. ( ,and)

Yep. The infamous Oxford comma.

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Old Liberal  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:39:39am

re: #191 Eclectic Cyborg

So I just took a look at the company who sells the AOC cutout on walmart.com.

They also sell cutouts of: Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden. Beto O’Rourke, RBG and of course Hillary Clinton in addition to various other historical and popular figures.

No Republican politician cutouts at all though they do offer one of Vladimir Putin.

Wilkes-Barre PA

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:41:28am

re: #191 Eclectic Cyborg

So I just took a look at the company who sells the AOC cutout on walmart.com.

They also sell cutouts of: Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden. Beto O’Rourke, RBG and of course Hillary Clinton in addition to various other historical and popular figures.

No Republican politician cutouts at all though they do offer one of Vladimir Putin.

They sell cutouts of Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:42:29am

re: #192 Anymouse 🌹

The point is to lie to their white viewers. “See a black racist who hates whites and is a Democrat.”

It doesn’t matter that the Democrat part isn’t true, just like when a Republican gets caught criming and they put a D after his name.

I’m aware of how they work.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:43:40am

re: #193 Hecuba’s daughter

Yep. The infamous Oxford comma.

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Old Liberal  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:44:00am

Anyone know the law about using someone else’s image for profit? Are all elected officials considered public domain?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:46:26am

re: #198 Old Liberal

Anyone know the law about using someone else’s image for profit? Are all elected officials considered public domain?

I believe so.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:52:35am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:54:16am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:54:51am

re: #195 Hecuba’s daughter

They sell cutouts of Trump.

re: #191 Eclectic Cyborg

I may have been wrong — Walmart itself sells Trump cutouts. That particular company may not produce any.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:56:12am

re: #200 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

More of this please.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:57:09am

re: #202 Hecuba’s daughter

I may have been wrong — Walmart itself sells Trump cutouts. That particular company may not produce any.

Okay, I was trying to find one and I couldn’t, I was confused for a moment.

They do sell a John Roberts one though.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:58:06am

It’s almost as if Trump has something against black people.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 7:59:04am

re: #200 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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You could really feel the emotion as he brought that he’s from Baltimore. This President is uniquely disgraceful and we’ve had Nixon, Reagan, & Bush II in the last 50 years.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:00:10am

re: #204 Eclectic Cyborg

Okay, I was trying to find one and I couldn’t, I was confused for a moment.

They do sell a John Roberts one though.

The Roberts one should sell really well but most people don’t know who he is but probably do know ASAP Rocky due to Trump’s interfering in Swedish affairs.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:01:28am

re: #205 Ace Rothstein

It’s almost as if Trump has something against black people.

Not just black people. Non-white people.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:02:39am

re: #208 Eclectic Cyborg

Not just black people. Non-white people.

This is really why Mariano Rivera should have shut the hell up about how he stands for his “friend” Trump.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:03:32am

re: #208 Eclectic Cyborg

And non-Christians.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:03:47am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

Mo said that??

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:05:35am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:06:01am

re: #211 Ace Rothstein

Mo said that??

Yeah on Fox and Friends. I’m really disappointed. Only Yankee I’ve ever liked since I was a closer in LL, admired his quiet professionalism, & seemed like a decent guy. He’s of course now the toast of the WSJ and my wingnut cousin who would tell him to go back to Panama if he talked like David Ortiz.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:06:15am

re: #212 jaunte

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Yep.

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Old Liberal  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:09:32am

re: #205 Ace Rothstein

It’s almost as if Trump has something against black people.

This is like a derivation of “slaves had it pretty good”. If you ignore the cage thing and the lack of rights thing and lack of hygiene etc they’ve got it good “. Disgusting people on the right.

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ericblair  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:11:30am

re: #83 Shropshire Slasher

If there is a problem with the bidding process, the government can just throw out the bid and start from scratch. Happens all the time. No big deal.

Except in this case, it seems that the courts have already said there is no problem with the bidding process and they want to throw out the bid anyway. You can see where there could be a legal problem.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:13:29am

Lemme preface something here about MD-7. I’ve been there numerous times. I’ve been to the aquarium as a third grade kid. I’ve been to the Power Plant Live to see music. I’ve been to countless Orioles games there. I was born the same year Cummings got elected. Does it have problems? Sure it does but as Victor Blackwell said it is home for people who dream and want the best for their loved ones as any Trump supporting Congressman’s district. My grandparents home district in Pennsylvania has problems too but Trump would never use “infested” or question why anyone would want to live. Trump at his truest form is a bigoted snob who is still the pampered rich kid whose Dad helped him get out of the draft. It wasn’t avoidance by conscience but as with everything in Trump’s life by cowardice and his perception as himself as the pinnacle of human evolution.

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Old Liberal  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:13:49am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

This is really why Mariano Rivera should have shut the hell up about how he stands for his “friend” Trump.

Mariano has money. So does Kanye.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:15:06am

re: #218 Old Liberal

Mariano has money. So does Kanye.

So does David Ortiz/Jay-Z and numerous other celebrities who have criticized him. Having money shouldn’t be excuse to turn blind or deaf.

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:15:57am

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ALL THE DAMN TIME!!

They also know when they’re not good looking. My dog was a shepherd/samoya mix, totally adorable. But while I was at college, he got fleas and my sister shaved him. He looked totally ridiculous, and was SOOOOO embarrassed. He slinked around, head drooping, wouldn’t look at reflective surfaces, wouldn’t wag his tail, until his hair grew back.

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Old Liberal  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:17:54am

re: #219 HappyWarrior

So does David Ortiz/Jay-Z and numerous other celebrities who have criticized him. Having money shouldn’t be excuse to turn blind or deaf.

I agree it shouldn’t be, but it often is. In my little world I know two wealthy trans people who support drumpf. Because taxes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:18:36am

re: #201 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I wish we had a President who didn’t jerk off to FAUX and FIENDS!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:19:48am

re: #221 Old Liberal

I agree it shouldn’t be, but it often is. In my little world I know two wealthy trans people who support drumpf. Because taxes.

I think Mo is an end timer too. He’s not a Catholic like most Panamanians. But you’re right.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:21:32am

re: #222 Joe Bacon 🌹

I wish we had a President who didn’t jerk off to FAUX and FIENDS!

I wish we had a President that didn’t watch that shit. Herskith doesn’t believe in washing his hands. That alone is a huge red flag.

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:22:22am

re: #168 HappyWarrior

She dares to vocally speak out against the sham they tell us is the best economic system in the world. I think that upsets them the most. They know they wouldn’t be shit if not for their connections and race.

She led the fight against giving Amazon subsidies to come to NY, said there were enough reasons to come here we shouldn’t have to bribe them; the right went apeshit, said she’d cost the district all those jobs. But a couple months later, very quietly, Amazon did indeed decide to come here anyway with no special tax breaks, no incentive payments, nothing. She was proved correct, and wow doesn’t that piss them off.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:23:12am

re: #221 Old Liberal

I agree it shouldn’t be, but it often is. In my little world I know two wealthy trans people who support drumpf. Because taxes.

If the GOP was not so “infested” with religious fundamentalists, they could really appeal to gays: often affluent professionals (no kids to derail their careers) interested in low taxes (as they are less likely to be able take dependent child deductions or mortgage interest on a large house in a neighborhood with good schools) and generally happy with less government (as in the less interference in their lifestyle)

But the GOP has made it clear that it is the Party of Jesus and are convinced that Jesus’ dad does not look kindly on non-binary biologically determined gender affiliation.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:24:58am

re: #225 sagehen

She led the fight against giving Amazon subsidies to come to NY, said there were enough reasons to come here we shouldn’t have to bribe them; the right went apeshit, said she’d cost the district all those jobs. But a couple months later, very quietly, Amazon did indeed decide to come here anyway with no special tax breaks, no incentive payments, nothing. She was proved correct, and wow doesn’t that piss them off.

Yes she was right about that.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:25:28am

President* Dorian Gray

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:25:32am

re: #226 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If the GOP was not so “infested” with religious fundamentalists, they could really appeal to gays: often affluent professionals (no kids to derail their careers) interested in low taxes (as they are less likely to be able take dependent child deductions or mortgage interest on a large house in a neighborhood with good schools) and generally happy with less government (as in the less interference in their lifestyle)

But the GOP has made it clear that it is the Party of Jesus and are convinced that Jesus’ dad does not look kindly on non-binary biologically determined gender affiliation.

But there are still gays whose greed and selfishness TRUMPS everything else—Thiel, Milo, SMOTI and their assorted ilk who will gladly stay in their glass Log Cabin!

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:28:13am
“…The inspectors also deemed the restaurant “not vermin proof” and said its “conditions” are “conducive to attracting vermin” and “allowing vermin to exist.”

Otherwise cons like Hannity and Epstein might feel unwelcome.

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mmmirele  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:29:31am

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹

I get confused when I’m using my computer versus using my typewriter. Two spaces? One? Screw it and just start a new line for each sentence?

My former book publisher put out a style rule saying the Oxford comma should not be used. That resulted in every editor and copyeditor in the company saying “no.”

Several years ago at my job, we had a huge blowup over one space or two in our reports, to the point that one of my coworkers wrote a report that explained how proportional spacing worked and that we should only have to use one space after a period. It didn’t matter, the boss wanted two spaces. I set up a macro in Word that I’d run after completing a report to insert the required extra space.

As for the Oxford comma, I went to journalism school and we were told not to use it. However, if Rees-Mogg is going to take that position, I’m going to make a point of using the Oxford comma. I don’t want to be like him in *anything*, he’s that repulsive.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:29:35am

Why does Goldbely tempt me with an e-mail so early in the morning?

Pittsburgh…

Philly

New Orleans

Chicago

And of course Phillippe’s in Los Angeles…

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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:30:30am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

This is really why Mariano Rivera should have shut the hell up about how he stands for his “friend” Trump.

I’m kinda glad he said it because maybe it will shut Kurt Schilling up from whining that it’s because he’s a right-winger that he’s not in the HOF. (Who am I kidding—Schilling will never shut up)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:31:40am

Lre: #232 Joe Bacon 🌹

Why does Goldbely tempt me with an e-mail so early in the morning?

Pittsburgh…

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Pittsburgh wins. Though the NOLA Muffaletta is delish.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:32:42am

re: #233 BeachDem

I’m kinda glad he said it because maybe it will shut Kurt Schilling up from whining that it’s because he’s a right-winger that he’s not in the HOF. (Who am I kidding—Schilling will never shut up)

Yeah well Mo already got in but I hear ya. Objectively I’m not sure about Schilling as a HoF but he is in the jackass HoF.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:33:25am

Just installed my third air conditioner. Third time’s the charm apparently. It’s finally starting to cool off at Chez Tumbleweed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:34:23am

re: #236 Anymouse 🌹

Just installed my third air conditioner. Third time’s the charm apparently. It’s finally starting to cool off at Chez Tumbleweed.

Got some rain coming through starting last night, temps have dipped back down into the 80’s again for the first time all week…

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:35:53am

re: #226 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If the GOP was not so “infested” with religious fundamentalists, they could really appeal to gays: often affluent professionals (no kids to derail their careers) interested in low taxes (as they are less likely to be able take dependent child deductions or mortgage interest on a large house in a neighborhood with good schools) and generally happy with less government (as in the less interference in their lifestyle)

But the GOP has made it clear that it is the Party of Jesus and are convinced that Jesus’ dad does not look kindly on non-binary biologically determined gender affiliation.

I have 2 cousins who are gay: both are affluent and have children who are still at home. Many affluent gays are willing to assume that religious fundamentalism is the necessary price to keep Republicans in power so that they can continue to get their tax cuts. Peter Thiel is a perfect example of how too many wealthy gays figure that their wealth insulates them from backlash and that preserving their money is more important than preserving any rights. Especially in the era of Trump and the GOP, wealth buys rights. Laws apply only to the poor and working class.

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Renaissance_Man  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:37:14am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The GOP is the political wing of Fox

I started saying this exact thing ten years ago on this very site.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:37:28am

re: #238 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump thought Roy Cohn was ok as long as he was useful to Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:39:01am

re: #238 Hecuba’s daughter

I have 2 cousins who are gay: both are affluent and have children who are still at home. Many affluent gays are willing to assume that religious fundamentalism is the necessary price to keep Republicans in power so that they can continue to get their tax cuts.

I have a Log Cabin Republican friend who seems to have to trouble with Mike Pence…he even got married last year…something I reminded him that people like Pence oppose.

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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:39:40am

re: #235 HappyWarrior

Yeah well Mo already got in but I hear ya. Objectively I’m not sure about Schilling as a HoF but he is in the jackass HoF.

Right—that’s the point—Rivera got in with a unanimous vote, despite his right-wing noise. Schilling has been bitching forever that the only thing keeping him out of the HOF is his politics, not his stats or his obnoxious persona.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:41:10am

re: #232 Joe Bacon 🌹

Why does Goldbely tempt me with an e-mail so early in the morning?

Pittsburgh…

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You bastard

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:41:31am

re: #242 BeachDem

Right—that’s the point—Rivera got in with a unanimous vote, despite his right-wing noise. Schilling has been bitching forever that the only thing keeping him out of the HOF is his politics, not his stats or his obnoxious persona.

Right. I didn’t know Mo had made right wing statements prior to getting elected. Gotta say though, as a dual Yankees-Sox hater, fan of that team in Cummings’ district, I appreciate Papi more.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:42:27am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:43:16am

re: #240 jaunte

Trump thought Roy Cohn was ok as long as he was useful to Trump.

Unlike Pence, Trump really doesn’t care about gay or transgender issues at all. What turned him against Cohn was Cohn getting AIDs. Trump really does care about health issues as they affect him and has no compassion for those who are ill; in the 1980’s, people were terrified of HIV — there was no treatment and the transmission vectors were not completely understood.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:43:42am

not all the news is bad

The Guardian

Passenger in clown suit prompted mass cruise ship brawl

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Old Liberal  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:44:26am

re: #245 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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And the people in those Kentucky counties will keep it that way with their votes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:44:57am

re: #245 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

10 of America’s 25 worst counties to live in (based on poverty, education & life expectancy) are in Kentucky. Moscow Mitch & Russian Rand do more to take care of fascist leaders Putin & Donald Trump than their own

But the people there are convinced that is because Democrats ruined the coal industry with pesky environmental, health & safety regulations…we just need to get rid of them and jobs will come booming back…well-paid jobs…and without need of meddling unions!!!

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:45:11am

I just got my new microwave and it boiled water. Now I have to read the directions.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:45:17am

re: #245 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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And those counties are heavily white. I won’t call them shitholes but I will definitely point out the hypocrisy of the people who live there and vote for people like Mitch, Rand, and Trump.

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Semper Fi  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:45:27am

re: #232 Joe Bacon 🌹

Why does Goldbely tempt me with an e-mail so early in the morning?

Pittsburgh…

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I vote Philly with Chicago a close 2nd.
Thanks for posting….

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:46:47am

re: #232 Joe Bacon 🌹

Philly of course. :)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:47:54am

re: #253 PhillyPretzel

Philly of course. :)

Oh you’re not biased.// But tbh the roast pork with broccoli rabe imo is better than the famous cheesesteak when it comes to Philly ‘wiches.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:48:20am

I’m going with Philly too.

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Old Liberal  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:49:14am

What got in the water in 1932? How was it that poor white people developed class consciousness? That saw Kansas lean socialist? Even the confederate states supported the New Deal (as long as it didn’t include black people). Coal miners unionized. Truck drivers unionized. How did so many become and stay so stupid? There have always been rich people controlling the media.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:51:14am

re: #251 HappyWarrior

And those counties are heavily white. I won’t call them shitholes but I will definitely point out the hypocrisy of the people who live there and vote for people like Mitch, Rand, and Trump.

How are they hypocrites? They are racists and the GOP supports that racism so they are getting what they want.

Ok — they also don’t want to have to retrain for new jobs that may not exist and won’t pay as much as their old jobs, if they do find them. But neither party has a solution for that problem.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:52:28am

re: #257 Hecuba’s daughter

How are they hypocrites? They are racists and the GOP supports that racism so they are getting what they want.

Ok — they also don’t want to have to retrain for new jobs that may not exist and won’t pay as much as their old jobs, if they do find them. But neither party has a solution for that problem.

How are they not? They look down on inner city people of color while living worse off.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:53:07am

re: #256 Old Liberal

What got in the water in 1932? How was it that poor white people developed class consciousness? That saw Kansas lean socialist? Even the confederate states supported the New Deal (as long as it didn’t include black people). Coal miners unionized. Truck drivers unionized. How did so many become and stay so stupid? There have always been rich people controlling the media.

I can only assume that they started to grow affluent and take things for granted while the bosses kept working on convincing them that less regulation means more jobs

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:53:14am

re: #248 Old Liberal

And the people in those Kentucky counties will keep it that way with their votes.

Because all Moscow Mitch has to do is say Jesus, Jesus, Jesus and the Kim Davis types will crawl over Lego blocks to mark a straight Republican ballot.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:53:30am

re: #256 Old Liberal

What got in the water in 1932? How was it that poor white people developed class consciousness? That saw Kansas lean socialist? Even the confederate states supported the New Deal (as long as it didn’t include black people). Coal miners unionized. Truck drivers unionized. How did so many become and stay so stupid? There have always been rich people controlling the media.

That’s a good point regarding the local powers to be.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:54:32am

re: #256 Old Liberal

What got in the water in 1932? How was it that poor white people developed class consciousness? That saw Kansas lean socialist? Even the confederate states supported the New Deal (as long as it didn’t include black people). Coal miners unionized. Truck drivers unionized. How did so many become and stay so stupid? There have always been rich people controlling the media.

Answer:

The American Creed has always been “I got mine and fuck you!”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:56:37am

Convince the poorest white man he’s better than the wealthiest black man and you have why FNC works and why its viewers can be both POTUS and a poor white.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:57:39am

As LBJ said over 50 years ago and it’s still true today!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 27, 2019 • 8:58:15am

re: #262 Joe Bacon 🌹

Answer:

The American Creed has always been “I got mine and fuck you!”

Ayn ‘fucking’ Rand just formalized into a creed that is written.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:01:23am

re: #264 Joe Bacon 🌹

As LBJ said over 50 years ago and it’s still true today!

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Yes he was right. LBJ quite honestly was the best psychologist we ever had in the WH.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:01:44am

re: #240 jaunte

Trump thought Roy Cohn was ok as long as he was useful to Trump.

Yet the very second Hair Furor found out that Cohn was dying of AIDS, he quickly dis-associated himself from Cohn, to which Cohn screeched: “Trump pisses ice water!”

OT: A few years ago our late lamened comrade ObserverArt whipped this little doozy up in Photoshop:

Now if someone could just put Trump’s mug on it and color it Trump’s spray tan mug….

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:02:30am

re: #256 Old Liberal

What got in the water in 1932? How was it that poor white people developed class consciousness? That saw Kansas lean socialist? Even the confederate states supported the New Deal (as long as it didn’t include black people). Coal miners unionized. Truck drivers unionized. How did so many become and stay so stupid? There have always been rich people controlling the media.

The Great Depression. Losing it all will generally tend to make you change your views. Otherwise you’re just the kid from Grave of the Fireflies.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:02:40am

re: #267 Eric The Fruit Bat

Yet the very second Hair Furor found out that Cohn was dying of AIDS, he quickly dis-associated himself from Cohn, to which Cohn screeched: “Trump pisses ice water!”

OT: A few years ago our late lamened comrade ObserverArt whipped this little doozy up in Photoshop:

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Now if someone could just put Trump’s mug on it and color it Trump’s spray tan mug….

Wait, WHAT?

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Old Liberal  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:03:01am

re: #263 HappyWarrior

Convince the poorest white man he’s better than the wealthiest black man and you have why FNC works and why its viewers can be both POTUS and a poor white.

As I think about it, it seems racism is the core. It all started to fall apart in the 1950s with Truman integrating the military, the enforcement of desegregation of the south in the 1950s. There’s basically four years between the Civil Rights Act and the onset of republican dominance. The US is full of racists which is depressing but not news. I guess we’ll need an economic collapse or we’re in for a long slide into collapse.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:04:05am

re: #269 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Wait, WHAT?

We found out a few days ago that he passed away back in May.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:04:10am

re: #256 Old Liberal

What got in the water in 1932? How was it that poor white people developed class consciousness? That saw Kansas lean socialist? Even the confederate states supported the New Deal (as long as it didn’t include black people). Coal miners unionized. Truck drivers unionized. How did so many become and stay so stupid? There have always been rich people controlling the media.

The whole nation was in the midst of a deep depression and the Republican Party was the party in charge when it happened. It wasn’t a situation like 2016 where most of the country was doing well and the stock market was booming — in 1932 the stock market was down 90% from its high in 1929 and the unemployment rate had surged to 25% from 3.2%. That is the type of economic nightmare that can lead to revolution.

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jeffreyw  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:04:38am

re: #232 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m in favor of any sammich with giardiniera

A French dip will do it for me, too

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:05:21am

re: #271 Belafon

We found out a few days ago that he passed away back in May.

Oh, Christ, that sucks to hear. He was a friend.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:05:45am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Got some rain coming through starting last night, temps have dipped back down into the 80’s again for the first time all week…

76°F and mostly cloudy here right now.

It was so hot yesterday that the rafters of the house radiated heat into the house all night.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:05:50am

re: #271 Belafon

RIP ObserverArt. You are missed.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:06:06am

Good morning from NoHo. I can not think of a clearer example of hypocrisy than Mitch and the GOP being all over Voter ID for years, and yet won’t allow the slightest bit of improvement on voting machines. Familiar ground, but let us line it up.

Or add it up? Voter suppression. Registration purges with little or no notice to the voters. Few voting booths where the GOP is not strong. A constant insistence on something that has never been proven to exist-Illegal aliens voting in masse. Etc., etc.

BUT, gotta leave the vulnerabilities in the machines. Not act more strongly against Russia. Mitch warned Obama that the GOP would falsely accuse Obama of politicizing intelligence in favor of HRC if he acted against Russia. But Obamas proposal of a bipartisan, legislative branch based warning to the public and Russia was spurned by Mitch Mcconnell. Machine changes described as a burden on the makers.

The Fix Is In already.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:07:34am

re: #270 Old Liberal

As I think about it, it seems racism is the core. It all started to fall apart in the 1950s with Truman integrating the military, the enforcement of desegregation of the south in the 1950s. There’s basically four years between the Civil Rights Act and the onset of republican dominance. The US is full of racists which is depressing but not news. I guess we’ll need an economic collapse or we’re in for a long slide into collapse.

People who benefited either directly or indirectly through the New Deal voting for people like Reagan in a landslide. And yes it all goes back to HST deciding loudly that the promise of The New Deal belonged to PoC too. That’s the genesis of modern conservatism since WWII. The old conservatism was more explicitly classist since they weren’t worried about PoC but Truman began to change that.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:07:46am

Say OOPS up side your head…say OOPS up side your head…

A private border wall construction project lauded by Trumpers nationwide is actually partially on Mexican soil, Mexican government engineers alleged in photos their American counterparts shared with the builders this month.

Tempting an international incident, the border wall group isn’t budging.

Instead, they’ve moved to attack mode, with their founder calling the binational body that governs the border “50% OWNED by MEXICO” and “UN like” — fighting words, among private border wall fundraisers.

Brian Kolfage, whose group “We Build The Wall” has raised a whopping $25 million for border wall construction on GoFundMe, estimated that the “boulders” from his wall project currently on the Mexican side of the border weighed around two hundred pounds each.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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sagehen  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:10:59am

re: #272 Hecuba’s daughter

The whole nation was in the midst of a deep depression and the Republican Party was the party in charge when it happened. It wasn’t a situation like 2016 where most of the country was doing well and the stock market was booming — in 1932 the stock market was down 90% from its high in 1929 and the unemployment rate had surged to 25% from 3.2%. That is the type of economic nightmare that can lead to revolution.

the 1929 crash was in year 1 of Hoover’s term; he had another 3 years for everyone to internalize that it was on his watch. That he did nothing to help. People in soup lines had a lot of time to talk to each other, and had a lot to talk about; they knew their tent cities were “Hooverville.” And the rich people weren’t coming around to talk to them.

The 2008 collapse happened a few weeks before the election; the effects only became super-obvious after the election. There was Fox News. Obama took the blame.

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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:11:28am

re: #226 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If the GOP was not so “infested” with religious fundamentalists, they could really appeal to gays: often affluent professionals (no kids to derail their careers) interested in low taxes (as they are less likely to be able take dependent child deductions or mortgage interest on a large house in a neighborhood with good schools) and generally happy with less government (as in the less interference in their lifestyle)

But the GOP has made it clear that it is the Party of Jesus and are convinced that Jesus’ dad does not look kindly on non-binary biologically determined gender affiliation.

I know the point you’re trying to make but, for the record, this gay has voted in favor of every school funding issue that”s ever been on the ballot in St. Paul. I may have no kids, but I don’t want to live in a city full of under-educated, bored kids and young adults.

Removing the christianists won’t make the republican party any more palatable. Log cabin republicans would still be vile, selfish people.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:12:25am

re: #280 sagehen

the 1929 crash was in year 1 of Hoover’s term; he had another 3 years for everyone to internalize that it was on his watch. That he did nothing to help. People in soup lines had a lot of time to talk to each other, and had a lot to talk about; they knew their tent cities were “Hooverville.” And the rich people weren’t coming around to talk to them.

The 2008 collapse happened a few weeks before the election; the effects only became super-obvious after the election. There was Fox News. Obama took the blame.

Hoover was so stuck in his old ways.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:12:40am

re: #279 Joe Bacon 🌹

Say OOPS up side your head…say OOPS up side your head…

A private border wall construction project lauded by Trumpers nationwide is actually partially on Mexican soil, Mexican government engineers alleged in photos their American counterparts shared with the builders this month.

Tempting an international incident, the border wall group isn’t budging.

Instead, they’ve moved to attack mode, with their founder calling the binational body that governs the border “50% OWNED by MEXICO” and “UN like” — fighting words, among private border wall fundraisers.

Brian Kolfage, whose group “We Build The Wall” has raised a whopping $25 million for border wall construction on GoFundMe, estimated that the “boulders” from his wall project currently on the Mexican side of the border weighed around two hundred pounds each.

talkingpointsmemo.com

Kolfage should always be referred to by his title: Convicted fraudster.

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Old Liberal  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:12:44am

re: #277 Rightwingconspirator

Good morning from NoHo. I can not think of a clearer example of hypocrisy than Mitch and the GOP being all over Voter ID for years, and yet won’t allow the slightest bit of improvement on voting machines. Familiar ground, but let us line it up.

Or add it up? Voter suppression. Registration purges with little or no notice to the voters. Few voting booths where the GOP is not strong. A constant insistence on something that has never been proven to exist-Illegal aliens voting in masse. Etc., etc.

BUT, gotta leave the vulnerabilities in the machines. Not act more strongly against Russia. Mitch warned Obama that the GOP would falsely accuse Obama of politicizing intelligence in favor of HRC if he acted against Russia. But Obamas proposal of a bipartisan, legislative branch based warning to the public and Russia was spurned by Mitch Mcconnell. Machine changes described as a burden on the makers.

The Fix Is In already.

Well the fix matters in the toss up states. WI MI PA governors are D this time around. VA also. More problematic for Senate races where states are republican controlled. State level Dems need to be aggressive at election control.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:14:01am

re: #270 Old Liberal

As I think about it, it seems racism is the core. It all started to fall apart in the 1950s with Truman integrating the military, the enforcement of desegregation of the south in the 1950s. There’s basically four years between the Civil Rights Act and the onset of republican dominance. The US is full of racists which is depressing but not news. I guess we’ll need an economic collapse or we’re in for a long slide into collapse.

They were full-on racist long before the economic anxiety set in.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:15:03am

re: #269 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Wait, WHAT?

Sad to say, ObserverArt is no longer with the living - I found that out about a week or so ago when people were wondering why he disappeared and I was unfortunate enough to find out that he passed on.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:15:07am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:15:17am

re: #281 stpaulbear

I know the point you’re trying to make but, for the record, this gay has voted in favor of every school funding issue that”s ever been on the ballot in St. Paul. I may have no kids, but I don’t want to live in a city full of under-educated, bored kids and young adults.

Removing the christianists won’t make the republican party any more palatable. Log cabin republicans would still be vile, selfish people.

Yes, I was talking about gays without children, of which there are a lot more.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:15:56am

re: #281 stpaulbear

I know the point you’re trying to make but, for the record, this gay has voted in favor of every school funding issue that”s ever been on the ballot in St. Paul. I may have no kids, but I don’t want to live in a city full of under-educated, bored kids and young adults.

Removing the christianists won’t make the republican party any more palatable. Log cabin republicans would still be vile, selfish people.

Plus and Wendell maybe you don’t mean it this way but you can be lacking kids like me, spb, & others here are and still want quality education & investment for children. Plus gays like straight people come in all socioeconomic backgrounds. It comes down to our fundamental values and I’m glad that LGBT people whether like SPB or my cousin whether they don’t have kids or do have kids are generally empathetic people who know which party and ideology is best for the American people.

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Old Liberal  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:18:03am

re: #280 sagehen

the 1929 crash was in year 1 of Hoover’s term; he had another 3 years for everyone to internalize that it was on his watch. That he did nothing to help. People in soup lines had a lot of time to talk to each other, and had a lot to talk about; they knew their tent cities were “Hooverville.” And the rich people weren’t coming around to talk to them.

The 2008 collapse happened a few weeks before the election; the effects only became super-obvious after the election. There was Fox News. Obama took the blame.

All true. Aside though from R and D something else happened. Previous the R was the party of the North and D the party of the south. And overnight the D became the party of poor people and R the party of rich people. Not that Rs hadn’t been for the rich since 1890 or so, but in an instant they weren’t the party of the North. And southerners voted for progressives.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:19:15am

re: #284 Old Liberal

Well the fix matters in the toss up states. WI MI PA governors are D this time around. VA also. More problematic for Senate races where states are republican controlled. State level Dems need to be aggressive at election control.

The governors may be democratic but the legislatures remain in GOP hands, at least partly (mostly?) because of gerrymandering. Only state-wide offices can reflect the views of the voting population. Unless something amazing happens in 2020, we are doomed as a nation.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:20:03am

The problem is what American conservatism is. It’s a philosophy of exclusion. Yes they have lgbt, poc, women but what unites conservative ideology is a huge fuck you, I got mine mentality. DimJim spent the Obama years trashing Obama. Obama who was the first President to really champion the rights of lgbt people. He’s getting married thanks to a decision that opposition to was a virtue and still is to Republican voters. He’ll iirc Jim even trashed Obergfell.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:20:23am

re: #280 sagehen

The 2008 collapse happened a few weeks before the election; the effects only became super-obvious after the election. There was Fox News. Obama took the blame.

Really, only a few more months and they could have laid it all at Obama’s doorstep…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:21:35am

re: #293 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Really, only a few more months and they could have laid it all at Obama’s doorstep…

They tried and they’ll do it again if Trumps economic shard gets left on a Democratic successor.

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Ming5000  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:23:08am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Good point.
I go back and forth about whether the Michigan Chamber of Commerce is an arm of the Michigan GOP, or vice versa.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:24:01am

re: #267 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Old Liberal  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:24:31am

re: #291 Hecuba’s daughter

The governors may be democratic but the legislatures remain in GOP hands, at least partly (mostly?) because of gerrymandering. Only state-wide offices can reflect the views of the voting population. Unless something amazing happens in 2020, we are doomed as a nation.

I think 2020 will be amazing. But 2008 was amazing (60 D senators) and by 2010 they had shut that whole thing down. I’m standing by my thought of many years, the only thing that saves the country is collapse, and then it’s 50/50 whether we go fascist or socialist. It’s like leukemia, we have to kill the bad marrow and hope the transplant takes.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:29:21am

re: #296 jaunte

I like the hair touch.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:30:05am

re: #298 Eric The Fruit Bat

Sorry about spoiling the sandwich pics with that.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:30:20am

re: #294 HappyWarrior

They tried and they’ll do it again if Trumps economic shard gets left on a Democratic successor.

The facts that economic performance in 2018 was less than the 3% Trump promised and second quarter was 2.1% should be used by Democrats to pound into the public consciousness that the GOP is responsible for the soaring deficits, since the promised reduction in deficit was always predicated by the unrealistic growth in the economy.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:31:35am

I wonder, also, what new words David Simon has coined in response to Trump’s racist tweets….

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:33:43am

re: #297 Old Liberal

I think 2020 will be amazing. But 2008 was amazing (60 D senators) and by 2010 they had shut that whole thing down. I’m standing by my thought of many years, the only thing that saves the country is collapse, and then it’s 50/50 whether we go fascist or socialist. It’s like leukemia, we have to kill the bad marrow and hope the transplant takes.

The problem was that we had 60 D senators for only about 4? months and one of those was Lieberman; that limited what we could pass for the good of the country since McConnell insisted on blocking anything Obama proposed. I wonder if McConnell was working for the Russians even back then.

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Old Liberal  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:41:34am

re: #302 Hecuba’s daughter

The problem was that we had 60 D senators for only about 4? months and one of those was Lieberman; that limited what we could pass for the good of the country since McConnell insisted on blocking anything Obama proposed. I wonder if McConnell was working for the Russians even back then.

Exactly on the senators. But even if we had 60 liberal senators for 2 years, the 2010 disaster still happens. People need to get the racism knocked out or we’ll be in this reactionary hell all the way down.

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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:41:44am

re: #302 Hecuba’s daughter

The problem was that we had 60 D senators for only about 4? months and one of those was Lieberman; that limited what we could pass for the good of the country since McConnell insisted on blocking anything Obama proposed. I wonder if McConnell was working for the Russians even back then.

Part of the reason that was such a short time period is that Norm Coleman and the republican party kept demanding recount after recount of the election that Al Franken had won.

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William Lewis  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:41:58am

re: #302 Hecuba’s daughter

The problem was that we had 60 D senators for only about 4? months and one of those was Lieberman; that limited what we could pass for the good of the country since McConnell insisted on blocking anything Obama proposed. I wonder if McConnell was working for the Russians even back then.

I could see his racist nightmare coming true - Obama getting elected - as being what would drive him to treason.

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Ming5000  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:42:40am

re: #247 I Would Prefer Not To

not all the news is bad

The Guardian

Passenger in clown suit prompted mass cruise ship brawl

They mentioned patriotic partying on the deck as a precedent to the brawl.

followed an alcohol-fuelled afternoon of “patriotic” partying on deck.

They also mentioned someone being pissed because they were promised a cruise with no fancy dress.

explained to staff that things kicked off when another passenger appeared dressed as a clown. This upset one of their party because they’d specifically booked a cruise with no fancy dress. It led to a violent confrontation,”

This article raises more questions than it answers.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:52:29am

re: #306 Ming5000

Erm, how is dressing as a clown “fancy”?

And who brings a clown costume on a cruise anyway??

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:58:25am

re: #307 Eclectic Cyborg

Erm, how is dressing as a clown “fancy”?

And who brings a clown costume on a cruise anyway??

Doesn’t fancy dress mean a costume party?

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 27, 2019 • 9:59:55am

re: #308 Hecuba’s daughter

That is possible but probably not what is meant by fancy. Most likely it is formal.

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:00:22am

re: #307 Eclectic Cyborg

Erm, how is dressing as a clown “fancy”?

And who brings a clown costume on a cruise anyway??

British meaning of “fancy dress,” not American.

For Brits, a “fancy dress party” is what we call a costume party.

“Fancy dress” consists of costumes, not formal wear.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:01:11am

re: #308 Hecuba’s daughter

Doesn’t fancy dress mean a costume party?

Yeah, IIRC it’s British English. Americans usually say “costume party” but the Brits use (or used) “fancy dress party”.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:01:18am

Relatively mild, but he may have been told by twitter to cut out the “fuck mook” language….

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Ming5000  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:01:26am

re: #308 Hecuba’s daughter

Doesn’t fancy dress mean a costume party?

Maybe the comment about fancy dress was trolling?

Fancy Dress Party
The Fancy Dress Party is a political party in England. They were formed in 1979 as a frivolous alternative to the mainstream electoral parties, and can be seen as a forerunner of the more prominent Official Monster Raving Loony Party. Their most famous policy was to use a smaller font size to automatically reduce the unemployment statistics.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:02:19am

re: #304 stpaulbear

Part of the reason that was such a short time period is that Norm Coleman and the republican party kept demanding recount after recount of the election that Al Franken had won.

But even if Franken had been approved in January, the Democrats lost their 60 vote majority effective February 4, 2010, which severely limited what they could accomplish in 2010, given McConnell’s obstructionism and the GOP willingness to support it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:03:23am

re: #310 A Three Hour Tour

British meaning of “fancy dress,” not American.

For Brits, a “fancy dress party” is what we call a costume party.

“Fancy dress” consists of costumes, not formal wear.

Oh, okay. Well that explains something, at least. Thank you.

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mmmirele  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:07:24am

re: #247 I Would Prefer Not To

not all the news is bad

The Guardian

Passenger in clown suit prompted mass cruise ship brawl

“One witness, part of a group involved in the trouble, explained to staff that things kicked off when another passenger appeared dressed as a clown. This upset one of their party because they’d specifically booked a cruise with no fancy dress. It led to a violent confrontation,” he wrote.

Never knew that dressing as a clown was “fancy dress.” Frankly, I thought it signaled the start of a horror movie.

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DangerMan  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:07:47am

re: #150 Belafon

That happened to someone else recently.

Me too
I have 9 draft unpublished pages

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:08:19am

re: #316 mmmirele

Never knew that dressing as a clown was “fancy dress.” Frankly, I thought it signaled the start of a horror movie.

apparently “fancy dress” refers to a costume party in British English.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:10:34am

re: #318 Eclectic Cyborg

That is good to know.

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mmmirele  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:13:14am

re: #318 Eclectic Cyborg

apparently “fancy dress” refers to a costume party in British English.

No, if someone shows up in a clown costume, it’s not a costume party. It’s the start of a horror movie.

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Belafon  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:13:26am
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Teukka  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:20:23am

re: #320 mmmirele

No, if someone shows up in a clown costume, it’s not a costume party. It’s the start of a horror movie.

Aye. “There is nothing funny about a clown by moonlight.”
— Lon Chaney Sr

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:23:50am

Earlier in the thread there was discussion about gays voting for school funding referendum, even though they didn’t have children. In our neck of the woods (suburban Chicago), there are communities that deliberately put these referendum on ballots when snowbirds are out of town. Many elderly people, whose children are grown and whose grandchildren live elsewhere, don’t see the need to support education for the future in their own communities. So some communities prefer to make it inconvenient for them to vote.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:24:42am

re: #302 Hecuba’s daughter

The problem was that we had 60 D senators for only about 4? months and one of those was Lieberman; that limited what we could pass for the good of the country since McConnell insisted on blocking anything Obama proposed. I wonder if McConnell was working for the Russians even back then.

It was actually less than four months, since Ted Kennedy was mostly out of the Senate due to illness.

The Minnesota election went to court due to the close count. The balance when the senators were sworn in was 58-41. Al Franken didn’t swear in until July, 2009. Ted Kennedy was out of the Senate due to brain cancer from May to July, 2008. Sen. Kennedy died in August, 2009.

After that, the special election in Massachusetts saw his seat flip from D to R with Scott Brown.

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DangerMan  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:24:57am

re: #217 HappyWarrior

Lemme preface something here about MD-7. I’ve been there numerous times. I’ve been to the aquarium as a third grade kid. I’ve been to the Power Plant Live to see music. I’ve been to countless Orioles games there. I was born the same year Cummings got elected. Does it have problems? Sure it does but as Victor Blackwell said it is home for people who dream and want the best for their loved ones as any Trump supporting Congressman’s district. My grandparents home district in Pennsylvania has problems too but Trump would never use “infested” or question why anyone would want to live. Trump at his truest form is a bigoted snob who is still the pampered rich kid whose Dad helped him get out of the draft. It wasn’t avoidance by conscience but as with everything in Trump’s life by cowardice and his perception as himself as the pinnacle of human evolution.

Fwiw this is not about Baltimore or md-7

It’s about the president of the entire United States singling out sections of the United States and not just disparaging them, out and out lying about them

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:26:09am

re: #325 DangerMan

Fwiw this is not about Baltimore or md-7

It’s about the president of the entire United States singling out sections of the United States and not just disparaging them, out and out lying about them

Oh definitely. I’m just saying in my own way that it’s all America not just the parts that vote for him. He’s a disgusting toad.

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Citizen K  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:26:19am

re: #200 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Unfortunately it feels like the vast, vast majority of response to this has been “TRUMP IS RIGHT, SUPER BROWN DEVIL INFESTED HELLHOLES!!!” Like, overwhelmingly so.

Hate works. Hate is god almighty in this country.

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DangerMan  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:28:34am

re: #277 Rightwingconspirator

Good morning from NoHo. I can not think of a clearer example of hypocrisy than Mitch and the GOP being all over Voter ID for years, and yet won’t allow the slightest bit of improvement on voting machines. Familiar ground, but let us line it up.

Or add it up? Voter suppression. Registration purges with little or no notice to the voters. Few voting booths where the GOP is not strong. A constant insistence on something that has never been proven to exist-Illegal aliens voting in masse. Etc., etc.

BUT, gotta leave the vulnerabilities in the machines. Not act more strongly against Russia. Mitch warned Obama that the GOP would falsely accuse Obama of politicizing intelligence in favor of HRC if he acted against Russia. But Obamas proposal of a bipartisan, legislative branch based warning to the public and Russia was spurned by Mitch Mcconnell. Machine changes described as a burden on the makers.

The Fix Is In already.

If the gop had such great governing ideas they wouldn’t need to do any of this

They do because otherwise they can’t win

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Citizen K  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:29:24am

re: #328 DangerMan

If the gop had such great governing ideas they wouldn’t need to do any of this

They do because otherwise they can’t win

This presumes that ‘governing’ is even their end goal.

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jaunte  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:29:48am

re: #329 Citizen K

Looting. Their goal is looting.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:30:53am

re: #330 jaunte

Looting. Their goal is looting.

Maxim 1: Pillage, then burn.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:34:45am
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:36:56am

re: #332 Anymouse 🌹

Very interesting.

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DangerMan  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:37:49am

re: #326 HappyWarrior

Oh definitely. I’m just saying in my own way that it’s all America not just the parts that vote for him. He’s a disgusting toad.

Yup totally not clever

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DangerMan  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:39:28am

re: #329 Citizen K

This presumes that ‘governing’ is even their end goal.

Well they gotta get the votes so they pretend

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:44:34am

re: #332 Anymouse 🌹

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Good. He should be on the defensive in this. Let Mitch tell us why election security shouldn’t be a thing after it’s been established the Russians are still meddling. I bet he won’t be able to win this.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:45:30am

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:46:16am

Sure they blame the clown, but no one said a word about the joker on the right.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:48:25am

re: #233 BeachDem

I’m kinda glad he said it because maybe it will shut Kurt Schilling up from whining that it’s because he’s a right-winger that he’s not in the HOF. (Who am I kidding—Schilling will never shut up)

Schilling is a “Curt” since it’s short for Curtis. Doesn’t use the proper German spelling.

:p

(I’m a Kurt that spells it correctly.)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:49:46am

...

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:51:35am

re: #339 Feline Fearless Leader

Schilling is a “Curt” since it’s short for Curtis. Doesn’t use the proper German spelling.

:p

(I’m a Kurt that spells it correctly.)

How I feel about Jon’s. :)

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:51:55am

re: #267 Eric The Fruit Bat

Yet the very second Hair Furor found out that Cohn was dying of AIDS, he quickly dis-associated himself from Cohn, to which Cohn screeched: “Trump pisses ice water!”

OT: A few years ago our late lamened comrade ObserverArt whipped this little doozy up in Photoshop:

[Embedded content]

Now if someone could just put Trump’s mug on it and color it Trump’s spray tan mug….

Except that Trump would be an awful Ferengi. His career of true acquisition is pretty poor.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:52:40am
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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 27, 2019 • 10:53:21am

re: #272 Hecuba’s daughter

The whole nation was in the midst of a deep depression and the Republican Party was the party in charge when it happened. It wasn’t a situation like 2016 where most of the country was doing well and the stock market was booming — in 1932 the stock market was down 90% from its high in 1929 and the unemployment rate had surged to 25% from 3.2%. That is the type of economic nightmare that can lead to revolution.

And it pretty much led to right-wing dictatorships in multiple countries with threats of it in many more.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:06:29am

From what I have read so far my new microwave is similar to the old one. The keypad is a little different but it appears to be close to what I had on the old one. There are a few more functions like sensor cooking. I have to get used to it.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:08:50am

re: #345 PhillyPretzel

From what I have read so far my new microwave is similar to the old one. The keypad is a little different but it appears to be close to what I had on the old one. There are a few more functions like sensor cooking. I have to get used to it.

Make sure it can’t spy on you.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:10:14am

re: #346 Anymouse 🌹

spy on me?

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Citizen K  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:11:03am
349
Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:12:31am
350
Rightwingconspirator  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:12:46am

re: #347 PhillyPretzel

spy on me?

Do not implement the Alexa/Wireless feature if provided.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:14:05am

re: #350 Rightwingconspirator

This one does not have that.
amazon.com

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:14:57am

re: #347 PhillyPretzel

spy on me?

Kellyanne Conway: ‘microwaves that turn into cameras’ can spy on us (The Guardian, March 2017)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:16:43am

re: #348 Citizen K

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:17:42am

re: #352 Anymouse 🌹

This one does not have a camera or wireless function.
amazon.com

Besides that stretch face would know how to use Consumer Reports.

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stpaulbear  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:18:21am

re: #345 PhillyPretzel

I’m starting to realize that I should replace my microwave oven. I bought it in 1982 or 83. It’s so old Goodwill won’t even take it.

I really hate buying new stuff.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:18:28am

re: #345 PhillyPretzel

From what I have read so far my new microwave is similar to the old one. The keypad is a little different but it appears to be close to what I had on the old one. There are a few more functions like sensor cooking. I have to get used to it.

And my new (third attempt) air conditioner is working. My house is finally down below the “bake” settings on my oven.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:19:30am

re: #36 Targetpractice

[Embedded content]

“NO! YOU MUST NOT READ FROM THE BOOK!”

“He’s been dead 3000 years. Why does he look so…..juicy?”

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BeachDem  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:19:39am

re: #339 Feline Fearless Leader

Schilling is a “Curt” since it’s short for Curtis. Doesn’t use the proper German spelling.

:p

(I’m a Kurt that spells it correctly.)

My sincere apologies. However Schilling spells it, he’s still a major league asshole.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:19:57am

re: #355 stpaulbear

Same here. My old one was around that age. I will put it out with the trash and either the neighbors or the trash pickers will get it.

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Citizen K  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:22:30am

re: #353 Anymouse 🌹

The problem isn’t just the agreement, but the acceptance. You have a vast part of the country that may not exactly agree with the racists holding all the power, but won’t do a thing to go against it long as it doesn’t affect them or they get their good trade offs for it. Both of those times had to be initiated by gov’t action rather than actual ‘will of the people’ , and it’s apparent we’re still basically fighting the same goddamn fights we were in the 60s if only on a lesser scale, and not through lack of fight back from the racists who want to undo all the gains since the CRA. Not to mention timely interventions from the courts, which we will easily not have on our sides in the immediate future.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:23:10am

Canada will get to experience the deep thoughts and considerate neighbours which is Nextdoor soon.

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Old Liberal  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:26:43am

re: #355 stpaulbear

I’m starting to realize that I should replace my microwave oven. I bought it in 1982 or 83. It’s so old Goodwill won’t even take it.

I really hate buying new stuff.

Good for you. I do the same.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:28:38am

Rich Guy Makes Fake Driveway So Neighbors Always Get Towed (The Cut, more at the link):

Parking can be a nightmare in New York City, so one rich man decided to cut corners, literally, to get around it.

Noam Gottesman, a billionaire investor, former hedge fund manager, and ex of Lucy Liu, believed he was above city planning and zoning laws when he decided to illegally cut a fake driveway in front of his home. Gottesman modified the sidewalk next to his Washington Street residence in the West Village, giving the illusion that a driveway exists, the New York Daily News reports. Just another case of rich-ass people doing rich-ass things.

While there are no official street signs showing that the space is barred from other cars, there are yellow warnings printed on black doors of the property, stating “No Parking” and “Active Driveway,” which are both ruses made to scare off someone looking for a spot. The purpose of the fake driveway is to deter neighbors from parking their cars in the space, ensuring that Gottesman always has a spot and deliveries can be made to his home without difficulty.

One such neighbor, Eyal Levin, said he had been battling with the sidewalk drama for more than three years. In May, as an act of rebellion, he parked his car in the spot, only to find it towed to a lot in Queens. He had to pay around $200 to get it back. Once he got to his car, he found a sloppily written parking ticket for $95 signed by an NYPD officer. The city threw out the ticket since the police officer didn’t fill out the forms correctly. Levin called Gottesman’s sidewalk regime “a scam” and said it was “outrageous to put that sign up when you have this huge mansion.”

Forbes says Gottesman has assets of $2.7billion. As a money-hoarder, he has nothing better to do than harass his neighbours so he can have an illegal reserved space.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:32:36am

Christian bishop: Women who have anal sex while pregnant risk turning their fetuses gay (Deadstate)

(with video, in Greek)

If Bishop Neophytos Masouras of Morphou could speak English a little better, he probably could be a breakout star on The Jim Bakker Show, considering his *unique* views when it comes to “unnatural” sex.

Speaking at a primary school in Cyprus back in June, the bishop warned about what he believes is a cause of homosexuality. According to him, women who enjoy anal sex during pregnancy risk transferring homosexuality to their fetuses, the Cyprus Mail reports.

“[Saint Porfyrios] says that when the woman enjoys that, a desire is created, and then the desire is passed on to the child,” the Greek Orthodox leader said, referring to a saint who reportedly advised gay people to abstain from sex and pray for their sexuality to be reversed.

As video of the Bishop’s words went viral on social media this week, a representative of the Cypriot LGBT rights group ACCEPT commented, “How are lesbians created?”

“So, father, if the woman does oral, will the child become a dentist?” another person commented.

(more)

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:32:50am

re: #363 Anymouse 🌹

Rich Guy Makes Fake Driveway So Neighbors Always Get Towed (The Cut, more at the link):

Forbes says Gottesman has assets of $2.7billion. As a money-hoarder, he has nothing better to do than harass his neighbours so he can have an illegal reserved space.

If anyone deserved eggs thrown at their windows it’s this ass.

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steve_davis  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:33:13am

re: #97 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

mmm…mmm! eggs that were soaked in the remains of the bacon. nothing else quite like it. you can feel the arteries hardening from here.

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lawhawk  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:33:52am

Trump’s overt racism and bigotry rears its ugly head again. Attack Cummings and Baltimore residents. Why?

Because it’s how he thinks he can deflect from the inhumane treatment of migrants at detention camps. Because he thinks he can deflect from detaining American citizens by ICE despite having every right to travel across the nation as they see fit.

In fact, those who were detained should sue Trump and ICE for unlawful restraint on travel and commerce.

Nonwhites are getting stopped at higher rates than whites. Every single study of law enforcement stops finds this, despite fact that whites are actually found with contraband at a far higher rate. The stops are entirely about discrimination and keeping/showing nonwhites their proper placce.

Trump, after all, needed a federal consent decree to force him to rent to minorities. He’s still up to the same tricks today, and any media outlet that thinks Trump is going to suddenly stop being a fucking racist isn’t paying attention and is misinforming the masses.

Trump has not stopped being a racist and misogynist. He is and always will be a racist and misogynist. Any media outlet that shows shock at the new outburst isn’t paying attention.

Trump’s newest racist outbursts should be handled as follows in headlines and tweets:

The racist Trump smears Rep. Cummings and minority residents in another racist rant on Twitter. It’s his xth day of being the racist in the WH who equated goddamned Nazis with the people protesting them.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:34:02am

re: #364 Anymouse 🌹

Christian bishop: Women who have anal sex while pregnant risk turning their fetuses gay (Deadstate)

(with video, in Turkish)

(more)

Oh that makes total sense. //

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:34:24am

re: #365 I Would Prefer Not To

If anyone deserved eggs thrown at their windows it’s this ass.

Or consistently coming out to his car to find the valve stems in the tires have been stolen.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:43:34am

re: #358 BeachDem

My sincere apologies. However Schilling spells it, he’s still a major league asshole.

No problem. I’ve seen more than enough assholes that spell it with a “K” as well.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:43:50am

re: #367 lawhawk

Going after Rep. Elijah Cummings was probably not a good idea. If Donald Trump sought to build good will with him, that might reflect on his committee hearings with oversight over his daughter’s E-mail account.

I imagine this won’t sit very well with Rep. Cummings. Any possible slack he might have thought to give Trump evaporated this morning.

As for the border area, unlike Trump we can pay attention to more than one thing at a time.

As for travel, I imagine the only people who would have a possibility of bringing an action against the government would be citizens or people on visas. Even then that would be a long slog through court.

jalopnik.com (2018)

You don’t have to be brown or black to be unsafe in the USA from the police nowadays.

A Georgia sheriff’s deputy threw a Canadian student in jail for “driving on an invalid license” (a Canadian one) after he pulled her over for speeding. He would not accept Canadian licenses are valid in the USA, and claimed she had no proper identification (she showed digital copies on her phone of her Canadian passport, Nexus card, and birth certificate).

At the police station, CBC reports, she was charged with speeding and driving without a license, and told she had to pay an $880 bond, or else stay in jail for two months until the court appearance. She also reportedly had to pay $200 to get her car out of the impound lot.

Once the story blew up, the sheriff’s department tried to backpedal, claiming “the media is trying to make this a story about a war on Canadians, when we’re trying to make war on speeders.”

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Old Liberal  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:44:33am

re: #368 HappyWarrior

Oh that makes total sense. //

What turns a baby into a pedophile covering bishop is what I want to know.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:45:48am

re: #372 Old Liberal

What turns a baby into a pedophile covering bishop is what I want to know.

Well, he’s a Greek Orthodox bishop. I don’t know what sort of scandals their church is having over that (though the RCC and every Protestant denomination is).

374
Old Liberal  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:46:21am

re: #371 Anymouse 🌹

Going after Rep. Elijah Cummings was probably not a good idea. If Donald Trump sought to build good will with him, that might reflect on his committee hearings with oversight over his daughter’s E-mail account.

I imagine this won’t sit very well with Rep. Cummings. Any possible slack he might have thought to give Trump evaporated this morning.

As for the border area, unlike Trump we can pay attention to more than one thing at a time.

As for travel, I imagine the only people who would have a possibility of bringing an action against the government would be citizens or people on visas. Even then that would be a long slog through court.

jalopnik.com (2018)

You don’t have to be brown or black to be unsafe in the USA from the police nowadays.

A Georgia sheriff’s deputy threw a Canadian student in jail for “driving on an invalid license” (a Canadian one) after he pulled her over for speeding. He would not accept Canadian licenses are valid in the USA, and claimed she had no proper identification (she showed digital copies on her phone of her Canadian passport, Nexus card, and birth certificate).

Once the story blew up, the sheriff’s department tried to backpedal, claiming “the media is trying to make this a story about a war on Canadians, when we’re trying to make war on speeders.”

Georgia. Nuff said.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:48:17am

re: #371 Anymouse 🌹

That looks like the standard small jurisdiction scam of “catching” non-local drivers for speeding and attempting to shake them down for a big fee simply to avoid the inconvenience to their travels.

Have stories among friends about this from years ago including one’s father who told them to lock them up since that would cost the jurisdiction money feeding him and keeping a deputy on hand to oversee the jail while he was in it.

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mmmirele  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:48:55am

re: #323 Hecuba’s daughter

Earlier in the thread there was discussion about gays voting for school funding referendum, even though they didn’t have children. In our neck of the woods (suburban Chicago), there are communities that deliberately put these referendum on ballots when snowbirds are out of town. Many elderly people, whose children are grown and whose grandchildren live elsewhere, don’t see the need to support education for the future in their own communities. So some communities prefer to make it inconvenient for them to vote.

We have “county islands”, that is, 55+ communities inside city limits but outside the city and school districts. Personally, I hate “county islands” in general because they’re outside the tax base, but I am amused at the pot dispensaries which have opened up within this very conservative, Mormon-dominated city because they’re actually on county islands.

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steve_davis  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:56:07am

re: #167 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

so, Mrs. Lincoln, other than that, how was the karaoke?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 11:57:25am

re: #375 Feline Fearless Leader

That looks like the standard small jurisdiction scam of “catching” non-local drivers for speeding and attempting to shake them down for a big fee simply to avoid the inconvenience to their travels.

Have stories among friends about this from years ago including one’s father who told them to lock them up since that would cost the jurisdiction money feeding him and keeping a deputy on hand to oversee the jail while he was in it.

There’s a former incorporated town in Texas called Iowa Colony. It is near Highway 288 between Houston and Lake Jackson.

The town decided to raise money by extending several threads of the town to cover a few yards of SR-288 in several places, then put its town cops on the highway to catch people from out-of-town.

The stink got so bad over that, the state of Texas forcibly took away their municipal court. (State law says a town may only earn a maximum of 30% of its budget from traffic tickets.)

While no one should be speeding (ducks for doing 95 on I-76 in Colorado in my Smart), the way the Canadian was treated in Georgia was uncalled for.

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steve_davis  Jul 27, 2019 • 12:01:12pm

re: #190 PhillyPretzel

It might be a typo because when making a list after each item is a comma. Usually there is a comma before the “and.” ( ,and)

ahem….there’s a comma, then a space, THEN the and.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 27, 2019 • 12:01:36pm

re: #376 mmmirele

We have “county islands”, that is, 55+ communities inside city limits but outside the city and school districts. Personally, I hate “county islands” in general because they’re outside the tax base, but I am amused at the pot dispensaries which have opened up within this very conservative, Mormon-dominated city because they’re actually on county islands.

Yikes on the Mormons. When I lived in Liberty, Mo., I lived one block from the old Liberty Jail/Mormon Church.

Frequently the folks in Salt Lake City would send people to Liberty for missionary training. The church knew who the atheist was a couple buildings away, so I was constantly running them off my property.

I only lived there for about a year; a tornado destroyed my house (which I had just gotten into with friends) and made me homeless (again).

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jul 27, 2019 • 12:08:47pm

re: #231 mmmirele

Several years ago at my job, we had a huge blowup over one space or two in our reports, to the point that one of my coworkers wrote a report that explained how proportional spacing worked and that we should only have to use one space after a period. It didn’t matter, the boss wanted two spaces. As for the Oxford comma, I went to journalism school and we were told not to use it.

Back in the 1980s my wife was director of the Ford Employe Fitness Center in Dearborn, that’s right, “employe” without the double e ending. Ford HQ tried for years and years to get everyone to drop the extra e because someone had projected that could save them money.

Didn’t take. 🤔

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steve_davis  Jul 27, 2019 • 12:09:31pm

re: #199 Eclectic Cyborg

I believe so.

nobody’s image can be used for profit without their consent. you need a consent form. (this is why college players can’t have their images used in ncaa football video games anymore. someone rightly sued over it). nor can you use someone else’s art in something that you are doing that involves making money, without their consent. I think it was Ford that learned that the hard way when they got sued by a Detroit artist whose work was on exhibition in a building they decided to use for a car shoot. technically, you can use pictures of people in art exhibits without needing their consent, if they are in public, which I think is the reason why street photographers are able to make a living without having to carry a ream of consent forms around with them. lawyers, I am correct on this, yes?

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steve_davis  Jul 27, 2019 • 12:24:15pm

re: #259 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I can only assume that they started to grow affluent and take things for granted while the bosses kept working on convincing them that less regulation means more jobs

the union jobs mostly went away. the comfortable middle class populations that used to send kids off to college so they could come back and have comfortable middle-management jobs in the factories turned into wastelands, like London’s worst early twentieth-century ghettos. Now, the people who live in those towns are mostly broken, hollow men living lives of absolute despair. they don’t think trump is going to save them. they think he’s the equivalent of a professional wrestling match—someone they can turn into their babe as he fights his way through the heels. they won’t desert him because they never actually bought into him. they are just people drowning, trying to pull at least one other person down with them on the way.

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steve_davis  Jul 27, 2019 • 12:32:29pm

re: #292 HappyWarrior

The problem is what American conservatism is. It’s a philosophy of exclusion. Yes they have lgbt, poc, women but what unites conservative ideology is a huge fuck you, I got mine mentality. DimJim spent the Obama years trashing Obama. Obama who was the first President to really champion the rights of lgbt people. He’s getting married thanks to a decision that opposition to was a virtue and still is to Republican voters. He’ll iirc Jim even trashed Obergfell.

conservatism is not a philosophy or an ideology. it is a counter argument to liberalism, which has been the dominant ideology in the west since the early part of the nineteenth century. the reason why conservatism seems to be devoid of any actual ideas is because its entire rationale is concerned with opposition to liberal positions. what makes it even more complicated is that modern American conservatism isn’t conservatism at all. It’s reactionism. it’s the populist “know nothing” tearing up of democracy by its roots. and at the moment, it’s succeeding. in order to stop it, i regret to have to say that millions of people are likely going to have to die. we’re literally going to have to have things become so bad that somebody decides to start taking large numbers of dumb fucks and standing them up against a wall.

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Ming5000  Jul 27, 2019 • 2:57:06pm

re: #338 Barefoot Grin

Sure they blame the clown, but no one said a word about the joker on the right.

Well, here I am. Stuck in the middle with you.


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