A Deep Groove From Moonchild: “Too Much to Ask”

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Produced and mixed by Moonchild
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1
DangerMan  Jul 28, 2019 • 5:55:38pm

2
Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2019 • 6:04:39pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 28, 2019 • 6:10:13pm

This lyin’ ass hole

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2019 • 6:11:42pm

re: #3 The Pie Overlord!

This lyin’ ass hole

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Even if so, so what. It’s not a fucking contest. Never saw Obama talk shit about how the military regarded him. This guy, no one in his family has ever served loves the idea of the military worshipping him.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2019 • 6:15:10pm

Trump wants to be worshipped.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 28, 2019 • 6:21:52pm

JFC

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2019 • 6:24:00pm

re: #6 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

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Trump gets more mad at criticism of this than he does the act itself.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 28, 2019 • 6:26:20pm

re: #5 HappyWarrior

Trump wants to be worshipped.

Like Kamazotz.

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KGxvi  Jul 28, 2019 • 6:28:48pm

re: #6 The Pie Overlord!

Abolish ICE… terminate everyone who works for the agency and put them on a DO NOT HIRE list. Create a new agency with strict background checks and comprehensive training and zero tolerance for violating civil rights.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 28, 2019 • 6:28:51pm
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KGxvi  Jul 28, 2019 • 6:32:30pm

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 28, 2019 • 6:51:21pm

Of course Trump retweeted Katie Hopkin’s racist post. Birds of a feather…

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 28, 2019 • 6:51:34pm

re: #6 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

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There will be justice for this era of fascism.

There will be.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2019 • 6:53:04pm

I am watching The Martian for the nth time, and it finally hit me that it’s absolutely hilarious that Sean Bean is explaining what Project Elrond means.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2019 • 6:53:12pm

re: #12 DodgerFan1988

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Of course Trump retweeted Katie Hopkin’s racist post. Birds of a feather…

His district just isn’t Baltimore, you racist hack. And there are plenty of crime riddled Trump supporting districts that a bigoted pos like you would fit right in.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 28, 2019 • 6:53:26pm

re: #12 DodgerFan1988

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Of course Trump retweeted Katie Hopkin’s racist post. Birds of a feather…

That looks like an Islamophobic hate crime.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 28, 2019 • 6:54:06pm
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Belafon  Jul 28, 2019 • 6:55:53pm

re: #13 Rocky-in-Connecticut

There will be justice for this era of fascism.

There will be.

Here’s another scary thought, and I generally don’t like doing them: if Democrats win Congress and the presidency, we need to secure those concentration camps the day after the election. The urge to get rid of evidence will be huge.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 28, 2019 • 6:56:50pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 28, 2019 • 6:59:24pm
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Citizen K  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:03:20pm

re: #6 The Pie Overlord!

Worth noting:

The thread goes on further, but yeah, basically, immigration courts are a fucking unaccountable kangaroo court mess that is apparently legally able to deny you your constitutional rights because “HOLY SHIT SUPER BROWN INVASION”.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:03:49pm

re: #19 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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marcusgorillius  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:04:28pm

re: #19 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That doesn’t matter, they should have closed them anyhow. (Wtf, some of these people are so stupid)

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:06:43pm

re: #17 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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A FUCKING GARLIC FESTIVAL.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:07:26pm

re: #22 Belafon

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They were the minority party in both Houses but we get it, nothing is ever Trump’s fault.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:08:31pm

re: #22 Belafon

Wrong link, try this:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:10:55pm

re: #26 Belafon

Wrong link, try this:

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Oh wow.

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:11:09pm

I also found a way to break chrome to the point I had to restart my phone: edit a comment and then hold down to select text. Now, drag the right side selector out of the text field, then hit backspace. Chrome doesn’t like that at all.

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BigPapa  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:16:10pm

I did a Twitter because I’m sick of Dinesh D’Losers spouting the ‘Dems started KKK’ trolling point.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:18:28pm

re: #29 BigPapa

I did a Twitter because I’m sick of Dinesh D’Losers spouting the ‘Dems started KKK’ trolling point.

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Events 150 years ago mean everything about what the parties are but today means nothing. Dinesh just doesn’t want to admit he’s a supporter of a David Duke admired President.

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BigPapa  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:20:54pm

There is literally Trump+Confederate imagery everywhere.

There is literally Confederate+KKK imagery everywhere.

It’s just a mind numbing troll.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:22:06pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:25:17pm

Argh, posted before reading TWT

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:29:48pm

Not big enough to hold all the Deplorables.

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MsJ  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:35:10pm
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rhuarc  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:37:56pm

re: #13 Rocky-in-Connecticut

There will be justice for this era of fascism.

There will be.

Why do you think that? What in this country’s history makes you think there will be any justice for the fascist shit anybody did in this administration?

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Citizen K  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:38:38pm

re: #35 MsJ

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No policy too racist for him to endorse taking nationwide.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:40:24pm

re: #35 MsJ

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It didn’t work in New York. It’s also Unconstitutional. Your pal Putin loves it tho.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:41:20pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

It didn’t work in New York. It’s also Unconstitutional. Your pal Putin loves it tho.

Trump is going full Rudy. Never go Full Rudy.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:42:12pm

re: #39 I Would Prefer Not To

Trump is going full Rudy. Never go Full Rudy.

Yep.

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Citizen K  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:42:33pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

It didn’t work in New York. It’s also Unconstitutional. Your pal Putin loves it tho.

It worked in the exact way that he wants it to: criminalizing non-white skin.

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unproven innocence  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:43:46pm

re: #35 MsJ

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By LOUIS NELSON
09/21/2016 04:04 PM EDT

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:44:47pm

Got out for a drive with Dad today. Drove up to Baldy Village for lunch, Baldy ridge road for the views, Brews Brothers place for beers then took him home. Then made chicken dinner at home. Nice day.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:44:55pm

re: #42 unproven innocence

By LOUIS NELSON
09/21/2016 04:04 PM EDT

Good catch.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:46:34pm

Night all.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:46:46pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

Good catch.

Yes, but trump likes recycling his greatest hits, so it will come abck

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Interesting Times  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:48:45pm

Snarky on the surface, disturbingly profound beneath:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:50:45pm

re: #46 I Would Prefer Not To

Yes, but trump likes recycling his greatest hits, so it will come abck

Yes he does.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:53:25pm

OMG

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 28, 2019 • 7:55:57pm

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 28, 2019 • 8:11:57pm

re: #50 The Pie Overlord!

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A Mom Anon  Jul 28, 2019 • 8:23:11pm

re: #50 The Pie Overlord!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2019 • 8:23:16pm

re: #21 Citizen K

Worth noting:

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The thread goes on further, but yeah, basically, immigration courts are a fucking unaccountable kangaroo court mess that is apparently legally able to deny you your constitutional rights because “HOLY SHIT SUPER BROWN INVASION”.

Desaparicidos

RUBEN BLADES - DESAPARICIONES

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2019 • 8:25:21pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 28, 2019 • 8:26:36pm

Meanwhile, Fox continues to dumb down viewers!

Geography according to Fox…
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Amory Blaine  Jul 28, 2019 • 8:27:57pm

Newly released encore from Ana Vidovic.

ANA VIDOVIC (Bonus Video) - Live Concert - Classical guitar recital - Baden-Baden

Here’s the rest of the solo recital, which is wonderful.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 28, 2019 • 8:29:22pm

“Meat Mexico”……

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Decatur Deb  Jul 28, 2019 • 8:32:00pm

re: #57 Dave In Austin

“Meat Mexico”……

Distinct from “Chicken Mexico”, which is Georgia, Alabama, and Tennessee.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 28, 2019 • 8:34:27pm

re: #57 Dave In Austin

Where’s “Tequila Mexico”?

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Belafon  Jul 28, 2019 • 8:36:33pm

re: #59 Ace Rothstein

Where’s “Tequila Mexico”?

If they put that in there, Fox viewers would actually want to let those people in, or go there.

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BeachDem  Jul 28, 2019 • 8:41:47pm

re: #34 The Pie Overlord!

Not big enough to hold all the Deplorables.

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Don’t EVEN get me started on the Longaberger cult.

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sagehen  Jul 28, 2019 • 8:42:30pm

re: #53 Decatur Deb

Desaparicidos

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Ruben Blades records sound…. very different to a Fear the Walking Dead fan than they sounded a few years ago.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 28, 2019 • 8:43:17pm

re: #55 Joe Bacon 🌹

Meanwhile, Fox continues to dumb down viewers!

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Idiocracy is here.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 28, 2019 • 8:43:33pm

Pineapple Chucks

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BigPapa  Jul 28, 2019 • 8:48:36pm

re: #64 Amory Blaine

Amaze!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 28, 2019 • 9:03:57pm

Update on Garlic Festival Incident: Up to 11 shot, three dead.

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BigPapa  Jul 28, 2019 • 9:05:11pm

I finally realized the Rob Halford is the Freddy Mercury of metal and all that came after. The third record I ever bought with hard earned cash from my pizza joint dishwasher gig was Sin After Sin. Damn, Halford has pipes.

Judas Priest - Sinner (Live Vengeance ‘82)

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plansbandc  Jul 28, 2019 • 9:08:39pm

re: #64 Amory Blaine

I have rainbow wiener chucks.

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2019 • 9:17:11pm

Fuck the Second Amendment.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 28, 2019 • 9:20:12pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

Fuck the Second Amendment.

And Fuck The Tiny Penis Club.

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2019 • 9:24:28pm

A scientist wants to know, so vote!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 28, 2019 • 9:41:58pm

re: #72 teleskiguy

I voted 0. So far I’m the only one…

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2019 • 9:41:59pm

Sociopathy. Only explanation.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 28, 2019 • 9:53:35pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

Sociopathy. Only explanation.

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Yeah, I’m sure somebody will be paying him to use his shitty app while bullets are whizzing past them…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 28, 2019 • 9:56:46pm

re: #55 Joe Bacon 🌹

I was just looking at old orchid catalogs on the Internet Archives, and the US’s most famous orchid nursery at the end of the 19th century was importing masses of plants from South Mexico, Cocaine Mexico, Oil Mexico, and Soccer Mexico:

… we are constantly receiving fresh importations of Orchids direct from the forests of Mexico, Central Central Mexico and South America Cocaine Mexico, …

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 28, 2019 • 10:04:54pm

News now reporting that one of the casualties in Gilroy is a 3 year old child.

I hope that motherfather Wayne LaPierre sleeps soundly tonight knowing that 3-year old’s blood is feeding his Tree of Liberty…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 28, 2019 • 10:12:27pm

KPIX Live Stream on Gilroy shooting

sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com

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plansbandc  Jul 28, 2019 • 10:14:15pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 28, 2019 • 10:14:49pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 28, 2019 • 10:15:19pm

The main Gilroy shooter was killed.

There may be another shooter on the lam…

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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2019 • 10:33:42pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 28, 2019 • 10:39:25pm

MOAR GUNZ!!!

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VegasGolfer  Jul 28, 2019 • 10:56:11pm

re: #64 Amory Blaine

Pineapple Chucks

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Where you get those?

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Amory Blaine  Jul 28, 2019 • 11:01:32pm

re: #84 VegasGolfer

Ha ha took the pic from etsy. I was just referencing a convo from earlier about pineapple chucks.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 28, 2019 • 11:04:40pm
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plansbandc  Jul 28, 2019 • 11:05:37pm

I have these. They are my unofficial pride shoes.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 28, 2019 • 11:37:19pm

A sad country song in french with kung fu. I love the way they belt out “Saskatchewan”. A tribute to B_sharp.

YouTube

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Dread Pirate  Jul 28, 2019 • 11:43:31pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 29, 2019 • 12:05:55am

I still have that CD. My sister still has her CD too.

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teleskiguy  Jul 29, 2019 • 12:10:26am

re: #90 teleskiguy

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Dread Pirate  Jul 29, 2019 • 12:15:42am

re: #90 teleskiguy

The Monkeys, but my second album was “Assorted Artists” in the bargain bin . (The albums with the hole punched in the corner.) I remember it had Edgar Winters’ Rock and Roll Hoochie Koo and this….

YouTube

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teleskiguy  Jul 29, 2019 • 12:20:09am

re: #92 Dread Pirate

“…stormy mountain, that’s a home to me…”

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 29, 2019 • 1:04:16am

re: #35 MsJ

From 2016. I’m surprised he hasn’t brought this up again.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 1:07:05am

re: #89 Dread Pirate

The point of course being to skeer tough-guy conservatives into voting for the party which will “do something” about Sharia law.

It doesn’t matter conservatives couldn’t define Sharia law if their lives depended on it, besides non-sensical Pamela Geller points like “taqiyya!1uno1!11!!dos!!!%£!!.”

Biblical laws are very similar to Sharia law, but they have no problem with making those laws in a nation specifically founded on a secular constitution.

When my wife and I lived in Oklahoma, the state put a constitutional referendum on the ballot to outlaw Sharia law along with decisions made in other state courts from being used in Oklahoma courts.

It was a cover for a racist “English Only” amendment pushed by one of John Tanton’s groups (the two clauses were part of the same amendment; pass the Sharia law amendment, get the English-only.)

The Tulsa World the next day came out with an entire edition printed in Cherokee and delivered it to all their subscribers.

Universities and academics all came out against the English-only part noting that much funding for them comes from foreigners in Oklahoma, and it would crush the university system if they couldn’t use state funds to print foreign-language recruiting materials (along with Native language recruiting materials).

The local press did a good job of highlighting the Sharia portion of the amendment was actually a stalking horse for the English-only section, and the amendment went down by a wide margin.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 1:12:38am

re: #90 teleskiguy

I still have that CD. My sister still has her CD too.

The very first CD I bought was after I got out of the Navy (the first time), in 1984. It was “Abba’s Greatest Hits Vol. 2.” I still have that CD.

The last LP I bought was in the Nineties when I was stationed in Spain, Enya’s “Watermark” I still have that LP and a mechanical license to record one of the songs from that album, “Lothlórien.” I’m possibly the only person who ever licensed it, for my long-playing short-selling album. It turns out the royalties for mechanical licenses are actually pretty cheap.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 1:23:41am

re: #94 Patricia Kayden

From 2016. I’m surprised he hasn’t brought this up again.

If he keeps ranting about Baltimore, he will.

Also waiting on the cringe take from him about the mass-murder in Philadelphia tonight. Wingnuts are already trying to discount it as “gang violence” (read ni*CLANG).

Depending on who the shooters were at the Garlic festival, I imagine Trump will issue some sort of proclamation in respect for the dead and injured (and possibly a half-staff notice for the flag) if they are minority members or especially immigrants. He’ll ignore it if they’re white guys.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 1:43:37am

New Tampax High-Speed Applicator Able To Launch Tampons Into Vagina At 500 MPH (goes to The Onion, with a photo of the laser-sighted semi-automatic tampon applicator)

NEW YORK—Touting the state-of-the-art device as a major time-saver for women, Procter & Gamble debuted a high-speed Tampax applicator Friday capable of launching tampons into the human vagina at speeds of up to 500 miles per hour. “Competing brands usually enter the vagina at 0.012 mph, with the resulting inefficiency you might expect, but now, thanks to the aerospace-derived advances in applicator design, women will no longer be inconvenienced by 19th century Steam Age-tampon velocities,” said marketing representative Craig Harris of the new Tampax Blaster, a titanium-and-carbon-fiber unit which comes pre-loaded with 12 tampons in the magazine and is capable of hitting the vaginal canal with 90% accuracy under optimal conditions.

(more)

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 29, 2019 • 1:46:04am

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

The Las Vegas shooter was White as have been many (if not most) mass shooters. Facts.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 1:47:58am

re: #99 Patricia Kayden

The Las Vegas shooter was White as have been many (if not most) mass shooters. Facts.

Yup, and no wingnuts were calling for “stop-and-frisk” on whites in Las Vegas. Funny that; it’s almost as if the real point is racism.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 29, 2019 • 1:49:19am

re: #95 Anymouse 🌹

When they impose Biblical Law are they also going to close down all the tattoo parlors?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 2:01:57am

re: #101 Feline Fearless Leader

When they impose Biblical Law are they also going to close down all the tattoo parlors?

Dominionists certainly would.

There is a pair of cringy Millenial YouTubers named Paul and Morgan who argue for Dominionist law. Besides coming under constant attack from atheists over their cringy videos and deeply anti-Constitutional views, they will sometimes go after low-hanging fruit (Morgan) because her arms are covered in tattoos.

Such people never think their laws will affect them, only those “other people” (non-Christians).

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 2:29:25am

(video, 20:20, goes to Mr. Atheist)

“One Million Moms” = Dishonest TRASH

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teleskiguy  Jul 29, 2019 • 2:33:46am
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Dread Pirate  Jul 29, 2019 • 2:39:09am

After almost 20 years our IRC server shut down. It only took us 2 weeks of boredom for us to set up our channel on another network. We just couldn’t walk away. Still rocking it old skool.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 29, 2019 • 3:14:46am

re: #5 HappyWarrior

Trump wantsneeds to be worshipped.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 3:20:06am

re: #6 The Pie Overlord!

She is a US citizen who was *carrying her passport* when ICE picked her up. They still held her for 32 hours because when they questioned her without a lawyer or guardian present, she gave “inconsistent information.” She is 9 years old.

These people need to be charged with child abuse

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 3:20:59am

re: #18 Belafon

Here’s another scary thought, and I generally don’t like doing them: if Democrats win Congress and the presidency, we need to secure those concentration camps the day after the election. The urge to get rid of evidence will be huge.

Remember what Eisenhower said at the end of WW2

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Dread Pirate  Jul 29, 2019 • 3:22:42am
Click to Reveal

You may have noticed most flight trackers don’t show military aircraft, which is good. I found one that does. Virtual Radar. It is a bit flakey and note the link to the right side on clearing a blank map. You go to the map with the Global Radar View link at the top. One thing I noticed is the military aircraft disappear for a few minutes at a time.

The Internet is so cool.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 3:23:24am

re: #92 Dread Pirate

The Monkeys, but my second album was “Assorted Artists” in the bargain bin . (The albums with the hole punched in the corner.) I remember it had Edgar Winters’ Rock and Roll Hoochie Koo and this….

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Video

I discovered that album much later in my first girlfriend’s collection but immediately liked it

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 3:28:24am

re: #106 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Yep.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 3:50:26am

re: #90 teleskiguy

My first album - bought with my own lawn-mowing money - was The Wall.

Second album, Back in Black, third album, The Number of the Beast, fourth album, Cornerstone (Styx) and fifth album, Screaming For Vengeance.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 3:58:32am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

These people need to be charged with child abuse

Kidnapping. Both a federal and state offence with no statute of limitations.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:03:42am

re: #109 Dread Pirate

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:12:56am

re: #18 Belafon

Here’s another scary thought, and I generally don’t like doing them: if Democrats win Congress and the presidency, we need to secure those concentration camps the day after the election. The urge to get rid of evidence will be huge.

They’ll also have time during the lame-duck session to do that.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:19:17am

Roy Moore’s opponent in the GOP Senate primary, Secretary of State John Merrill is running on a platform of “everything on television is geyh geyh geyh” and we need to “take back our culture.”

(caution for coarse language, 9:33, goes to Utah Outcasts)

So it’s the pro-child stalker Christian candidate versus the Christian Sharia candidate.

Anti-Gay Alabama Senate Candidate Hates Current Television Because It’s TOO Gay

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:27:33am

re: #16 The Pie Overlord!

That looks like an Islamophobic hate crime.

Cars/trucks not parked the way we do it in US/CA/MX….

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:28:59am

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹

Roy Moore’s opponent in the GOP Senate primary, Secretary of State John Merrill is running on a platform of “everything on television is geyh geyh geyh” and we need to “take back our culture.”

(caution for coarse language, 9:33, goes to Utah Outcasts)

So it’s the pro-child stalker Christian candidate versus the Christian Sharia candidate.

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His theological ancestors were complaining about tv. No one is forcing him to watch tv shows. Gay characters? Well life has gay people too.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:32:00am

re: #90 teleskiguy

I can’t remember for sure, but the first album i bought for myself might have been No Dice, by Badfinger

Badfinger - No Matter What - Promotional Film (Music Video) - HQ

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:32:03am

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹

re: #118 HappyWarrior

Methinks he doth protest too much.

Anyone care to wager he’s got something he’s hiding?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:32:44am

re: #120 Dr Lizardo

Methinks he doth protest too much.

Anyone care to wager he’s got something he’s hiding?

Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s got something in his closet.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:34:33am

re: #117 Eric The Fruit Bat

Cars/trucks not parked the way we do it in US/CA/MX….

That depends. Could be a one-way street with parking only on the left, or opposite-day parking for street cleaning.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:35:10am

re: #118 HappyWarrior

His theological ancestors were complaining about tv. No one is forcing him to watch tv shows. Gay characters? Well life has gay people too.

They don’t want gay people to have life (a lot of them literally).

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:37:08am

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹

They don’t want gay people to have life (a lot of them literally).

Exactly

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:37:32am

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹

They don’t want gay people to have life (a lot of them literally).

That’s what the Bible tells them.

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steve_davis  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:42:33am

re: #77 Joe Bacon 🌹

News now reporting that one of the casualties in Gilroy is a 3 year old child.

I hope that motherfather Wayne LaPierre sleeps soundly tonight knowing that 3-year old’s blood is feeding his Tree of Liberty…

wayne doesn’t sleep at night, silly.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:45:39am

re: #126 steve_davis

wayne doesn’t sleep at night, silly.

Any follow-up news on that? I read that a shooter had been taken down by the cops, but was there a second shooter? Or was it just one of those “fog-of-war” things?

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steve_davis  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:45:51am

re: #92 Dread Pirate

The Monkeys, but my second album was “Assorted Artists” in the bargain bin . (The albums with the hole punched in the corner.) I remember it had Edgar Winters’ Rock and Roll Hoochie Koo and this….

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ah, the Assorted Hits albums! The only place you could encounter The Chambers Brothers, Tom Rush, and Deep Purple all at once.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:48:24am

re: #121 HappyWarrior

Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s got something in his closet.

Nah. While the “closeted geyh” trope comes up because when someone is exposed it gets a lot of attention, the overwhelming majority of “geyh” haters are doing it from religious belief.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:50:32am

re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That’s what the Bible tells them.

That’s what they cherry picked the Bible to tell themselves as justification for their bigotry.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:50:46am

re: #128 steve_davis

ah, the Assorted Hits albums! The only place you could encounter The Chambers Brothers, Tom Rush, and Deep Purple all at once.

I had this one. This was the only K-Tel album I had.

discogs.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:51:09am

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹

Nah. While the “closeted geyh” trope comes up because when someone is exposed it gets a lot of attention, the overwhelming majority of “geyh” haters are doing it from religious belief.

because they are deeply closeted gays who project their self-hatred on others

Reverend Shelby Spong made a compelling case that St Paul himself fit that category…

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:51:35am

re: #127 Dr Lizardo

Any follow-up news on that? I read that a shooter had been taken down by the cops, but was there a second shooter? Or was it just one of those “fog-of-war” things?

The Gilroy Police have not repudiated their statement about a second possible murderer yet. They have scheduled a press conference for this morning.

Seven hours ago:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:51:51am

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹

Nah. While the “closeted geyh” trope comes up because when someone is exposed it gets a lot of attention, the overwhelming majority of “geyh” haters are doing it from religious belief.

I’m just saying a normal person comfortable with his or her sexuality doesn’t act like this. I don’t know if he’s closeted or not but he’s definitely overcompensating.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:52:50am

re: #130 Feline Fearless Leader

That’s what they cherry picked the Bible to tell themselves as justification for their bigotry.

The Big Book of Multiple Choice.

There is plenty enough hatred, criminality, sex crime, and other stuff in that book, if it wasn’t named “Bible” it could not be sold to children.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:54:26am

re: #134 HappyWarrior

I’m just saying a normal person comfortable with his or her sexuality doesn’t act like this. I don’t know if he’s closeted or not but he’s definitely overcompensating.

Wanna bet? I’ve seen tons of hateful Christians who hate “Teh Geyh” because their religion tells them to.

When you have God on your side, other sides are necessarily evil.

You can’t assert the whole Republican Party is geyh without some strong evidence for that assertion.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:55:49am

Lre: #136 Anymouse 🌹

Wanna bet? I’ve seen tons of hateful Christians who hate “Teh Geyh” because their religion tells them to.

When you have God on your side, other sides are necessarily evil.

You can’t assert the whole Republican Party is geyh without some strong evidence for that assertion.

I didn’t say gay. I said uncomfortable with his sexuality. This dude ain’t normal.

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jeffreyw  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:56:32am

Good morning!

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:56:59am

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹

Ah, OK. I was wondering about that.

I know that when a mass shooting occurs, it’s not at all uncommon for witnesses to report a second gunman (or more), even if it turns out it was just the one shooter.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 4:57:49am

I’m sorry but when you’re still making gay people a political issue in 2019, you have some issues. Doesn’t mean you’re closeted necessarily but without fail every homophobic asshole I see has some deep seated issues with their own sexuality.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:00:02am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

L

I didn’t say gay. I said uncomfortable with his sexuality. This dude ain’t normal.

“Racists are uncomfortable with their race; they’d really rather be black” doesn’t work either.

Sometimes anti-geyh is just anti-geyh. Conservatism always needs an “other” to hate, and LGBT people are always a convenient minority throughout history.

One Christian apologetic argument is “Nazis were secretly homosexuals.” That explains why they sent so many LGBT to concentration camps.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:02:46am

re: #141 Anymouse 🌹

“Racists are uncomfortable with their race; they’d really rather be black” doesn’t work either.

Sometimes anti-geyh is just anti-geyh. Conservatism always needs an “other” to hate, and LGBT people are always a convenient minority throughout history.

One Christian apologetic argument is “Nazis were secretly homosexuals.” That explains why they sent so many LGBT to concentration camps.

I’m going to leave this here since I’m about to start work. But the man is clearly uncomfortable with his sexuality. He could be straight, he could be closeted. My point is if he were secure with himself, he wouldn’t make this an issue. It’s not normal.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:02:48am

re: #140 HappyWarrior

I’m sorry but when you’re still making gay people a political issue in 2019, you have some issues. Doesn’t mean you’re closeted necessarily but without fail every homophobic asshole I see has some deep seated issues with their own sexuality.

Then we have a hundred million or more people in the country with deep-seated issues with their sexuality, rather than deep-seated issues with hating people not like them.

I’ll go with “conservatism and religion” over “deep-seated sexuality issues.” With few exceptions, churches all stand against “teh Geyh” and the Republican Party’s platform also does.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:03:57am

re: #143 Anymouse 🌹

Then we have a hundred million or more people in the country with deep-seated issues with their sexuality, rather than deep-seated issues with hating people not like them.

I’ll go with “conservatism and religion” over “deep-seated sexuality issues.” With few exceptions, churches all stand against “teh Geyh” and the Republican Party’s platform also does.

100 million people aren’t making opposition to gay people on TV parts of their political campaigns.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:04:24am

re: #142 HappyWarrior

I’m going to leave this here since I’m about to start work. But the man is clearly uncomfortable with his sexuality. He could be straight, he could be closeted. My point is if he were secure with himself, he wouldn’t make this an issue. It’s not normal.

It is normal and almost always has been in this country. Until the Seventies the American Psychiatric Association classified it as a mental disorder. It was criminalised throughout most of the country throughout the nation’s history. It is as American as apple pie and racism.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:06:06am

His morning shit came early, obviously he didn’t work hard over the weekend.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:06:33am

re: #145 Anymouse 🌹

It is normal and almost always has been in this country. Until the Seventies the American Psychiatric Association classified it as a mental disorder. It was criminalised throughout most of the country throughout the nation’s history. It is as American as apple pie and racism.

and it was accepted that nobody could be born gay, they had to win over converts, primarily by corrupting and seducing young and impressionable children, no wonder that “pedo” is also a commonly used slur word for gays in many languages.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:06:33am

re: #145 Anymouse 🌹

It is normal and almost always has been in this country. Until the Seventies the American Psychiatric Association classified it as a mental disorder. It was criminalised throughout most of the country throughout the nation’s history. It is as American as apple pie and racism.

Whatever man. The guy is a wacko with issues. Simple as that.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:06:54am

re: #141 Anymouse 🌹

One Christian apologetic argument is “Nazis were secretly homosexuals.” That explains why they sent so many LGBT to concentration camps.

They have the ridiculous argument largely because of Ernst Röhm, who was (IIRC) pretty much openly gay - and Hitler had no problems with that (well, until he had Röhm bumped off at the Army’s insistence. Then all of sudden, Hitler was shocked…..SHOCKED….to find out about Röhm and another fellow, another high-ranking SA member, though his name eludes me now). Indeed, Röhm was the only person who addressed Hitler with the familiar “du” (informal ‘you’), which tells me that Hitler and Röhm were good personal friends (again, right up until Hitler had him whacked).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:08:46am

re: #141 Anymouse 🌹

One Christian apologetic argument is “Nazis were secretly homosexuals.” That explains why they sent so many LGBT to concentration camps.

One of Germany’s leading neo-Nazis (now dead of AIDS) was openly gay and said that the Nazis’ biggest mistake was to purge Röhm and the others from the movement…

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makeitstop  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:11:24am

re: #92 Dread Pirate

The Monkeys, but my second album was “Assorted Artists” in the bargain bin . (The albums with the hole punched in the corner.) I remember it had Edgar Winters’ Rock and Roll Hoochie Koo and this….

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You’ve got the wrong Winter - Johnny did ‘Rock & Roll Hoochie Coo.’

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:11:49am

re: #101 Feline Fearless Leader

When they impose Biblical Law are they also going to close down all the tattoo parlors?

And Red Lobster?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:11:56am

re: #144 HappyWarrior

100 million people aren’t making opposition to gay people on TV parts of their political campaigns.

They vote for those candidates. That was the driving force behind all the flurry of anti-marriage equality bills and amendments in the 2010 race, to scare conservative voters into voting against “Big Geyh.”

I don’t care what their rationalisations are for voting against their fellow Americans’ rights are. All I care about is they are bigots.

They used the same arguments against abolishing slavery, women’s suffrage, interracial marriage, school desegregation, civil rights, &c, and used the Bible to justify all of it.

The majority weren’t secretly closeted people who wanted to be slaves or interracially married.

Sometimes hate is just hate.

(video, 2:51)

OFFICIAL Preacher Phil Snider gives interesting gay rights speech

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Dread Pirate  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:13:15am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:17:02am

re: #154 Dread Pirate

Same as Rwanda or Bosnia. They also used the same terminology.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:20:26am

re: #154 Dread Pirate

And every other city humans have ever inhabited.

Douchecanoe’s latitude and longitude in his profile is Miami Beach. I’m sure there are no rats there.

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Teukka  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:20:33am

re: #154 Dread Pirate

re: #155 Anymouse 🌹

Same as Rwanda or Bosnia. They also used the same terminology.

For reference, see “10 Stages of Genocide”.
There’s a reason why one of the things I try to tell and teach is how to document shit inconspicuously.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:23:00am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:27:30am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One of Germany’s leading neo-Nazis (now dead of AIDS) was openly gay and said that the Nazis’ biggest mistake was to purge Röhm and the others from the movement…

Edouard Pfieffer, died in 1991.

Rohm was friends with Hitler because Rohm first discovered him as a fiery speaker and ensured his rise in the Nazi Party.

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Teukka  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:30:20am

re: #159 Anymouse 🌹

Edouard Pfieffer, died in 1991.

Rohm was friends with Hitler because Rohm first discovered him as a fiery speaker and ensured his rise in the Nazi Party.

It should serve as a caution to anyone willing to play along with the fash…
Watch your six, because in the instant you have outlived your usefulness, you will done away with.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:32:32am

re: #157 Teukka

For reference, see “10 Stages of Genocide”.
There’s a reason why one of the things I try to tell and teach is how to document shit inconspicuously.

We are at step seven, moving into eight.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:33:34am

re: #158 Dave In Austin

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Dems already guaranteed coverage. What exactly do we need to join?

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A Mom Anon  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:36:44am

re: #162 Mike Lamb

We have to renounce what we did and then beg and plead and grovel to be allowed to sign on to their psychopathic bullshit.

It should be an actual crime to knowingly lie to the American people while an elected official. Isn’t it a crime for me to lie to them?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:41:44am

re: #163 A Mom Anon

We have to renounce what we did and then beg and plead and grovel to be allowed to sign on to their psychopathic bullshit.

It should be an actual crime to knowingly lie to the American people while an elected official. Isn’t it a crime for me to lie to them?

It’s IOKIYAR.

Republicans are above the law. Doesn’t apply to them.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:42:01am

re: #162 Mike Lamb

More to Cornyn’s DARVOism…. I just reversed his statement.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:45:01am

re: #158 Dave In Austin

Interesting how Sen. Cornyn quote-tweets Sen. Schumer in asking for Republicans to work for a bi-partisan solution to support his own claim.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:48:32am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹

Interesting how Sen. Cornyn quote-tweets Sen. Schumer in asking for Republicans to work for a bi-partisan solution to support his own claim.

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Note how the Russian bots are flooding Schumer’s twitter feed…Oh and the MAGATS are jumping in as well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:49:02am

Do not let the discussion spin off into a matter of rodent infestation and the imagery connected. Just point out all the GOP-controlled districts that are equally poor, vermin infested and dependent on government aid…you will find a lot of them

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:53:01am

In Brexit-related news, Paddy Power is offering 12 to 1 odds that the UK will end up having to announce food rationing by the end of this year as a result of Brexit.

FFS.

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Targetpractice  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:54:56am

re: #169 Dr Lizardo

In Brexit-related news, Paddy Power is offering 12 to 1 odds that the UK will end up having to announce food rationing by the end of this year as a result of Brexit.

FFS.

What are the odds that, after the rationing is announced, they’ll expect the rest of the world to bail them out?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:56:34am

re: #169 Dr Lizardo

I accessed Paddy Power using a VPN and took a screenshot.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:56:42am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Do not let the discussion spin off into a matter of rodent infestation and the imagery connected. Just point out all the GOP-controlled districts that are equally poor, vermin infested and dependent on government aid…you will find a lot of them

Or multiple arguments:

1) Keep pointing out they’re the racist party. Get the squishy middle off the fence (as pointed out in the ten stages of genocide above, step six includes getting rid of so-called centrists).

2) Use imagery of Republican areas as well as pointing out poverty is a nation-wide problem.

3) Ask them if they care about their own constituents, and make sure those answers get into political adverts, showing which party cares about poverty and which doesn’t.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 5:56:59am

re: #170 Targetpractice

What are the odds that, after the rationing is announced, they’ll expect the rest of the world to bail them out?

That’s inevitable. LOL.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:00:49am

re: #167 Joe Bacon 🌹

Note how the Russian bots are flooding Schumer’s twitter feed…Oh and the MAGATS are jumping in as well.

Plenty of both still claiming “Congress exempted itself from Obamacare” which is a straight-up lie.

verywellhealth.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:02:26am

re: #169 Dr Lizardo

In Brexit-related news, Paddy Power is offering 12 to 1 odds that the UK will end up having to announce food rationing by the end of this year as a result of Brexit.

FFS.

They see things like that as a sign of character and resolve.

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Targetpractice  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:03:38am

It won’t simply be food rationing, there will swiftly be rationing of medications and limitations set upon things like elective surgery to stretch the nation’s insufficient reserves while the gov’t fucks around with new trade negotiations. At the same time or shortly thereafter will be the announcement of mass layoffs as companies either owned by other EU nations or reliant upon parts/supplies from EU manufacturers are closed or forced to cope with the sudden backlog of inspections and certifications for every single import. Social order is going to suffer greatly if not utterly collapse when you have thousands to millions of Britons jobless, unable to find food, or watching their loved ones suffer in the NHS queue while the wealthy suffer no shortages or restriction of access.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:04:08am

re: #175 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They see things like that as a sign of character and resolve.

Or as a Kenyan acquaintance of mine once said, “A man with hungry children has no fear of the law.”

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Old Liberal  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:05:22am

re: #176 Targetpractice

It won’t simply be food rationing, there will swiftly be rationing of medications and limitations set upon things like elective surgery to stretch the nation’s insufficient reserves while the gov’t fucks around with new trade negotiations. At the same time or shortly thereafter will be the announcement of mass layoffs as companies either owned by other EU nations or reliant upon parts/supplies from EU manufacturers are closed or forced to cope with the sudden backlog of inspections and certifications for every single import. Social order is going to suffer greatly if not utterly collapse when you have thousands to millions of Britons jobless, unable to find food, or watching their loved ones suffer in the NHS queue while the wealthy suffer no shortages or restriction of access.

Conservatives only learn the hard way. If they learn at all.

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:05:38am

re: #19 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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And Trump tweeted a goddamned parody account. That’s not the actual ICE director, as if that matters.

Everything Trump touches dies.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:06:02am

re: #177 Dr Lizardo

Or as a Kenyan acquaintance of mine once said, “A man with hungry children has no fear of the law.”

GOP: “We are the law, fear us as we kidnap your children.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:08:04am

re: #179 lawhawk

And Trump tweeted a goddamned parody account. That’s not the actual ICE director, as if that matters.

Everything Trump touches dies.

There was a snark account on Facebook which was a parody of what right-wingers think about feminists.

They ran the account for two years, trolling conservatives with faked articles like “we want to eliminate men.”

They shut it down because too many of their articles wound up on right-wing blogs, FOX News, and Republican politicians’ Websites.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:09:17am

re: #169 Dr Lizardo

In Brexit-related news, Paddy Power is offering 12 to 1 odds that the UK will end up having to announce food rationing by the end of this year as a result of Brexit.

FFS.

My ex MiL grew up in Britain during and after WW2 and they really see things like that as building character and self-discipline, the sort of things they need to build and maintain an Empire.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:09:27am

Waiting for a new work laptop. Good to be at work.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:10:34am

re: #176 Targetpractice

And that’s how you end up with this guy:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:11:11am

And yes of course the Brits will ask to be bailed out. Nationalism in the modern sense for already established nation states is just a bunch of whiners who don’t accept people not like them.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:12:00am

re: #184 Dr Lizardo

And that’s how you end up with this guy:

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The right wingers don’t realize they play right into the Leninist script.

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:12:09am

Greets and saluts… racist grandpa is up to his usual shitshow in the morning… more than usual.

He’s thoroughly consumed with impeachment and his executive time spills over into every waking moment. Tweets are increasingly crazy, not that his base or the GOP cares. They continue dismantling the safety net, attacking Obamacare, and trying to shift the burdens on to those least able to endure them.

It’s how the GOP operates.

Trump calls out Bernie for making racist statements. Yeah, guess what - Bernie has been called a racist, rightfully so. He is the left-wing version of Trump in so many aspects, including pandering to whites while ignoring the plight of minorities, and falling back on his march for civil rights as a defense against inaction in the intervening decades. Other Democrats speak to POC and minorities far more forcefully and eloquently and they are the conscience of the Democratic party.

But I’m fully expecting Democrats to defend Bernie here, because party needs demand it.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:12:21am

re: #182 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My ex MiL grew up in Britain during and after WW2 and they really see things like that as building character and self-discipline, the sort of things they need to build and maintain an Empire.

I can kind of understand that attitude in the immediate wake of WW2. But now? In peacetime? When there’s no single, solitary reason for it other than sheer, almost fanatical stubborness?

I think a lot of people are gonna being saying, “Fuck that noise.”

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Targetpractice  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:13:01am

re: #178 Old Liberal

Conservatives only learn the hard way. If they learn at all.

I fear that the only way they’ll learn is when the streets are on fire. I expect that the Tories will see this as an opportunity to “trim the fat” by aping their American cousins in demanding any persons seeking gov’t aid to take up one of the “new” jobs that have been vacated by “foreigners” who’ve left the UK.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:16:11am

re: #187 lawhawk

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Greets and saluts… racist grandpa is up to his usual shitshow in the morning… more than usual.

He’s thoroughly consumed with impeachment and his executive time spills over into every waking moment. Tweets are increasingly crazy, not that his base or the GOP cares. They continue dismantling the safety net, attacking Obamacare, and trying to shift the burdens on to those least able to endure them.

It’s how the GOP operates.

Trump calls out Bernie for making racist statements. Yeah, guess what - Bernie has been called a racist, rightfully so. He is the left-wing version of Trump in so many aspects, including pandering to whites while ignoring the plight of minorities, and falling back on his march for civil rights as a defense against inaction in the intervening decades. Other Democrats speak to POC and minorities far more forcefully and eloquently and they are the conscience of the Democratic party.

But I’m fully expecting Democrats to defend Bernie here, because party needs demand it.

Bernie is a racist too. Keep on digging.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:16:20am

re: #186 HappyWarrior

The right wingers don’t realize they play right into the Leninist script.

And yet Steve Bannon describes himself as a Leninist.

They ignore what doesn’t fit into their religion.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:17:50am

re: #191 Anymouse 🌹

And yet Steve Bannon describes himself as a Leninist.

They ignore what doesn’t fit into their religion.

They’re ignorant.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:19:26am

Aimed at Bishop Talbert Swan, calling out Trump’s racism;

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:19:46am

So, two mass shootings this weekend. Yup. The only place in the world outside of active war zones or failed/failing states with the level of gun violence we see, including the mass shooting situations is here in the US.

There are some cities in Latin America with higher gun violence rates, but the reality is no where else in the first world is gun violence as prevalent as here in the US.

The easy availability of guns is the sole reason for this. We don’t have more mentally ill on per capita rates than elsewhere. The one thing that binds the gun violence is the easy availability of guns. Strong gun laws correlate to lower per capita gun death rates.

And we know that gun violence occurs everywhere, including strong gun law states like CA and NY (where the two mass shootings occurred). Guns can be obtained outside these states and brought in, and there are enough loopholes in the gun laws to allow people to have access to guns that never should be able to obtain them.

The GOP is in thrall to the NRA, so they do nothing. And the NRA is compromised by Russian money these days, so we know that they don’t have public safety in mind either.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:20:35am

re: #188 Dr Lizardo

I can kind of understand that attitude in the immediate wake of WW2. But now? In peacetime? When there’s no single, solitary reason for it other than sheer, almost fanatical stubborness?

I think a lot of people are gonna being saying, “Fuck that noise.”

A lot of them believe shit like that but few of them have actually lived it. The economy being reasonably stable gives them the luxury of putting racism first.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:24:28am

re: #194 lawhawk

Waiting on The Onion’s ubiquitous headline.

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

They haven’t posted one since Parkland.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:24:49am

re: #194 lawhawk

So, two mass shootings this weekend. Yup. The only place in the world outside of active war zones or failed/failing states with the level of gun violence we see, including the mass shooting situations is here in the US.

There are some cities in Latin America with higher gun violence rates, but the reality is no where else in the first world is gun violence as prevalent as here in the US.

The easy availability of guns is the sole reason for this. We don’t have more mentally ill on per capita rates than elsewhere. The one thing that binds the gun violence is the easy availability of guns. Strong gun laws correlate to lower per capita gun death rates.

And we know that gun violence occurs everywhere, including strong gun law states like CA and NY (where the two mass shootings occurred). Guns can be obtained outside these states and brought in, and there are enough loopholes in the gun laws to allow people to have access to guns that never should be able to obtain them.

The GOP is in thrall to the NRA, so they do nothing. And the NRA is compromised by Russian money these days, so we know that they don’t have public safety in mind either.

I could easily due to VA’s gun laws buy guns here and do a shooting in DC or MD. The problem isn’t that the gun laws don’t work. The problem is you have bordering jurisdictions with completely different gun laws. I believe our gun laws should be more uniform. That’s another problem I have with Sanders when he uses racist bs to dismiss Vermont’s lax gun laws.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:26:18am

re: #197 HappyWarrior

I could easily due to VA’s gun laws buy guns here and do a shooting in DC or MD. The problem isn’t that the gun laws don’t work. The problem is you have bordering jurisdictions with completely different gun laws. I believe our gun laws should be more uniform. That’s another problem I have with Sanders when he uses racist bs to dismiss Vermont’s lax gun laws.

I have no problem with a nationwide title system for guns. Without a universal gun law, we will always have this problem.

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sagehen  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:27:17am

re: #82 teleskiguy

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That’s not a volcano, and the cat didn’t “just happen” to be there.

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:28:09am

re: #197 HappyWarrior

The nation is only as safe as the weakest gun laws in the nation.

Trump usually picks on Chicago gun violence, ignoring that neighboring Indiana and Missouri have weaker gun laws, and a high percentage of guns used in crimes in Chicago were purchased outside Illinois.

Same with NY - the iron pipeline from weak gun law states starting with PA and going into VA, NC, SC, GA, and FL has been well documented.

California also has an iron pipeline from Nevada and Arizona.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:29:01am

re: #198 Anymouse 🌹

I have no problem with a nationwide title system for guns. Without a universal gun law, we will always have this problem.

That’s my position. Way I see it, exempting Alaska and Hawaii, all our states are connected in some way through borders. I can get to two other states and DC within a hour of where I live and I’m not too far from Pennsylvania and Delaware either.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:30:06am

re: #200 lawhawk

The nation is only as safe as the weakest gun laws in the nation.

Trump usually picks on Chicago gun violence, ignoring that neighboring Indiana and Missouri have weaker gun laws, and a high percentage of guns used in crimes in Chicago were purchased outside Illinois.

Same with NY - the iron pipeline from weak gun law states starting with PA and going into VA, NC, SC, GA, and FL has been well documented.

California also has an iron pipeline from Nevada and Arizona.

Yes exactly my point. They love to crack about Chicago, NYC, & DC but ignore by choice the proximity.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:30:17am

re: #188 Dr Lizardo

I can kind of understand that attitude in the immediate wake of WW2. But now? In peacetime? When there’s no single, solitary reason for it other than sheer, almost fanatical stubborness?

I think a lot of people are gonna being saying, “Fuck that noise.”

It is really hard-wired into a lot of them, enough to keep the pro-Brexiteers in power, it seems.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:30:50am

re: #191 Anymouse 🌹

And yet Steve Bannon describes himself as a Leninist.

They ignore what doesn’t fit into their religion.

They are just as selective in their politics as they are in their theology.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:33:03am

re: #203 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is really hard-wired into a lot of them, enough to keep the pro-Brexiteers in power, it seems.

They haven’t lived it yet. Nationalism isn’t gonna look too good when you’re paying more for consumer goods and you’re stuck eating bland British food.

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:35:18am

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See slate.com for more.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:35:51am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

They haven’t lived it yet. Nationalism isn’t gonna look too good when you’re paying more for consumer goods and you’re stuck eating bland British food.

The post-war generation is fading and most of them have only really known life in the EU.

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Old Liberal  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:37:51am

Do I understand that the House will take August off but the judiciary committee will continue?

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Targetpractice  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:37:59am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

They haven’t lived it yet. Nationalism isn’t gonna look too good when you’re paying more for consumer goods and you’re stuck eating bland British food.

The generation that lived through the Blitz and post-war food rationing are the minority, the majority are those who grew up after the Marshall Plan and Common Market totally changed the look of British cuisine. For them, war-time rationing is something they heard about from their parents or in classrooms as a negative thing about the war, rather than a sign of the indomitable spirit of the British people. And even that level of subsistence depended upon importing millions of tons of foodstuffs from the US and the colonies.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:38:08am

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The post-war generation is fading and most of them have only really known life in the EU.

That’s my point. It’s easy to romanticize the WWII era. It’s one thing if you actually have to live dollar to dollar in a time of peace.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:38:34am

re: #209 Targetpractice

The generation that lived through the Blitz and post-war food rationing are the minority, the majority are those who grew up after the Marshall Plan and Common Market totally changed the look of British cuisine. For them, war-time rationing is something they heard about from their parents or in classrooms as a negative thing about the war, rather than a sign of the indomitable spirit of the British people. And even that level of subsistence depended upon importing millions of tons of foodstuffs from the US and the colonies.

Exactly.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:39:05am

re: #200 lawhawk

And Louisiana has a higher murder rate by gun than Chicago.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:40:23am

re: #212 Anymouse 🌹

And Louisiana has a higher murder rate by gun than Chicago.

Louisiana has the highest murder rate period.

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Belafon  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:42:24am
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Old Liberal  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:43:12am

re: #210 HappyWarrior

That’s my point. It’s easy to romanticize the WWII era. It’s one thing if you actually have to live dollar to dollar in a time of peace.

Hmmm romanticizing a past that wasn’t that great ……

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:43:58am

re: #208 Old Liberal

Do I understand that the House will take August off but the judiciary committee will continue?

Not sure. I can find a meeting on August 1 on GovTrack, followed by meetings in September.

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Targetpractice  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:45:26am

And keep in mind that any rationing of foodstuffs post-Brexit will be reliant upon the UK maintaining its current level of agricultural productivity. All it will take is one bad harvest and even basic foodstuffs will be gone from store shelves.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:46:16am

Orange Twatwaffle still going on about Baltimore, nothing about two mass-murders.

Gotta keep the racists in his camp.

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:47:54am

re: #213 HappyWarrior

Louisiana has the highest murder rate period.

And among the lowest life expectancy in the country. Red states, particularly in the deep south are the worst, but red states do worse overall.

Those with the highest life expectancy? No surprise that CA and NY are in the mix, but Puerto Rico also has a high life expectancy, though I think the damage done from Hurricane Maria will be felt for years to come.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:48:39am

re: #218 Anymouse 🌹

I’m wondering if something’s going on behind the scenes. That’s almost invariably the case when see a Cherbobyl-esque Trump Twitter meltdown like this.

I’m thinking something’s got him seriously rattled.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:48:48am

re: #215 Old Liberal

Hmmm romanticizing a past that wasn’t that great ……

Conservatism in a nutshell. They do it without fail.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:49:15am

re: #218 Anymouse 🌹

Orange Twatwaffle still going on about Baltimore, nothing about two mass-murders.

Gotta keep the racists in his camp.

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King Elijah?

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:49:57am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:50:27am

re: #220 Dr Lizardo

I’m wondering if something’s going on behind the scenes. That’s almost invariably the case when see at Cherbobyl-esque Trump Twitter meltdown like this.

I’m thinking something’s got him seriously rattled.

He’s going to go nuts if he’s impeached or loses re-election. He definitely knows there’s a good chance he’ll be the first President to go to prison.

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:52:37am

re: #224 HappyWarrior

And his not so little kids too (need to say that in the voice of the Wicked Witch, or alternatively in the generic bad guy from Scooby Doo).

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:52:38am

re: #223 lawhawk

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I look at Trumps rise and it’s a testament to his bigoted base, foreign ratfucking, & a media more interested in treating the race for the Presidency like a reality show than what it ought to be.

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:52:55am

re: #222 HappyWarrior

King Elijah?

Does Chancellor Twitler think that Congressman Cummings is secretly the mayor of Baltimore?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:53:20am

re: #225 lawhawk

And his not so little kids too (need to say that in the voice of the Wicked Witch, or alternatively in the generic bad guy from Scooby Doo).

Yep.

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Targetpractice  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:54:33am

re: #218 Anymouse 🌹

Orange Twatwaffle still going on about Baltimore, nothing about two mass-murders.

Gotta keep the racists in his camp.

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This is what leapt out at me:

When the leaders of Baltimore want to see the City rise again, I am in a very beautiful oval shaped office waiting for your call!

“If you want my greatness to shine upon you, all you have to do is kiss my ring.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:55:16am

re: #225 lawhawk

And his not so little kids too (need to say that in the voice of the Wicked Witch, or alternatively in the generic bad guy from Scooby Doo).

Hmm….maybe that’s what’s got him so unhinged. Something happening to one of his kids, particularly Ivanka. That would certainly set him off - he’d go apeshit.

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Belafon  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:55:36am

re: #220 Dr Lizardo

I’m wondering if something’s going on behind the scenes. That’s almost invariably the case when see a Cherbobyl-esque Trump Twitter meltdown like this.

I’m thinking something’s got him seriously rattled.

Cummings received the authority to acquire the private emails of advisors Ivanka and Jared since they’re using their private accounts for government work.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:55:54am

re: #228 HappyWarrior

Yep.

So if Trump loses the 2020 election will he suddenly be unmasked by the meddling Democratic Squad as being Old Man Nixon in disguise?
(Hmm, would Kissinger be more appropriate?)

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:56:23am

re: #231 Belafon

Cummings received the authority to acquire the private emails of advisors Ivanka and Jared since they’re using their private accounts for government work.

Ah ha! See my #230!

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Citizen K  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:56:26am

This is what I always have to come back to: no matter what you think should be getting more attention in the news (and yes, Epstein, Russia, etc. all deserve no amount of attention and coverage that doesn’t amount to ‘Trump said…’), his racism is not a distraction. His attacks on opponents who just happen to be PoCs is not a distraction. His demonization of entire populations and peoples is not a distraction. It is a core part of his foundation, his ideology, and his policies. It animates almost everything about his domestic policy, as well as puts him smack dab in the mainstream of GOP thought. It pervades everything he does, and in his position means that it pervades everything about politics in general, even moreso than before.

To call it a distraction is to say it doesn’t matter. The problem is, for a wide swath of Americans who just happen to not be white, it very much matters. And it’s the kind of thing that gets dismissed by those who pretend they know better as ‘identity politics’ when those who are affected by this kind of overt racism soaking into every aspect of American discourse complain.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:58:35am

re: #231 Belafon

Cummings received the authority to acquire the private emails of advisors Ivanka and Jared since they’re using their private accounts for government work.

Yep. And he knows that Jared and Ivanka are his co-conspirators in his scams. Cummings is not going to go easy on them and nor should he. They don’t belong in the Exec branch in the first place since they could not get security clearances and then they flaunt the rules. They’re crooks. Trump is just angry at yet another person who will be bringing his criminal enterprise down.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 6:59:09am

re: #232 Feline Fearless Leader

So if Trump loses the 2020 election will he suddenly be unmasked by the meddling Democratic Squad as being Old Man Nixon in disguise?
(Hmm, would Kissinger be more appropriate?)

Kissinger.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:00:27am

re: #234 Citizen K

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This is what I always have to come back to: no matter what you think should be getting more attention in the news (and yes, Epstein, Russia, etc. all deserve no amount of attention and coverage that doesn’t amount to ‘Trump said…’), his racism is not a distraction. His attacks on opponents who just happen to be PoCs is not a distraction. His demonization of entire populations and peoples is not a distraction. It is a core part of his foundation, his ideology, and his policies. It animates almost everything about his domestic policy, as well as puts him smack dab in the mainstream of GOP thought. It pervades everything he does, and in his position means that it pervades everything about politics in general, even moreso than before.

To call it a distraction is to say it doesn’t matter. The problem is, for a wide swath of Americans who just happen to not be white, it very much matters. And it’s the kind of thing that gets dismissed by those who pretend they know better as ‘identity politics’ when those who are affected by this kind of overt racism soaking into every aspect of American discourse complain.

It’s not a distraction. It’s who he is. Yeah he dials up the racism when he’s under heat but the racism is part of the whole package.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:01:01am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:03:15am

re: #220 Dr Lizardo

I’m wondering if something’s going on behind the scenes. That’s almost invariably the case when see a Cherbobyl-esque Trump Twitter meltdown like this.

I’m thinking something’s got him seriously rattled.

Something something Rep. Cummings with his subpoenas against Jarvanka and the White House communications.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:03:52am

re: #238 Anymouse 🌹

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He had the House from 2017-18. Mr. I only hire the best people put a surgeon in charge of HUD.

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Targetpractice  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:05:26am

re: #238 Anymouse 🌹

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Why won’t he fix it? Because like so many other issues, it’s become about the injury to his ego and his need to soothe it by “punishing” someone. Much like how he keeps trying to find ways to withhold or slow aid to blue states such as California, which he blames for his failure to win the popular vote.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:06:12am

re: #239 Anymouse 🌹

Something something Rep. Cummings with his subpoenas against Jarvanka and the White House communications.

That makes perfect sense. Yeah, that’d drive Trump crazy with impotent rage.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:06:30am

re: #241 Targetpractice

Why won’t he fix it? Because like so many other issues, it’s become about the injury to his ego and his need to soothe it by “punishing” someone. Much like how he keeps trying to find ways to withhold or slow aid to blue states such as California, which he blames for his failure to win the popular vote.

He’s definitely bitter about losing the PV which is why he repeatedly calls California’s voting fraudulent.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:07:18am

re: #218 Anymouse 🌹

Orange Twatwaffle still going on about Baltimore, nothing about two mass-murders.

Gotta keep the racists in his camp.

Something tells me that dump doesn’t actually care about Bmore and rats, and that he’s just ranting about Cummings’ subpoenas.

half sarc

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sagehen  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:07:30am

re: #231 Belafon

Cummings received the authority to acquire the private emails of advisors Ivanka and Jared since they’re using their private accounts for government work.

This will be a treasure-trove.

Trump himself has always been anti-email, because he knows it’s evidence and didn’t want it preserved. But Ivanka and Jared are millennials…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:07:46am

re: #240 HappyWarrior

He had the House from 2017-18. Mr. I only hire the best people put a surgeon in charge of HUD.

Despite Carson’s wacky assertions about the Great Pyramid, why didn’t he make Carson Surgeon General or something?

I mean, FFS, Carson’s literally an M.D. And as I recall, a gifted pediatric neurosurgeon.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:08:16am

re: #245 sagehen

This will be a treasure-trove.

Trump himself has always been anti-email, because he knows it’s evidence and didn’t want it preserved. But Ivanka and Jared are millennials…

God I would love it if Jared and Ivanka brought him down.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:08:49am

re: #243 HappyWarrior

He’s definitely bitter about losing the PV which is why he repeatedly calls California’s voting fraudulent.

The PV was everywhere fraudulent but the EC vote that comes from the PV was somehow perfectly OK.
//

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:10:02am

re: #246 Dr Lizardo

Despite Carson’s wacky assertions about the Great Pyramid, why didn’t he make Carson Surgeon General or something?

I mean, FFS, Carson’s literally an M.D. And as I recall, a gifted pediatric neurosurgeon.

Or even HHS. I wouldn’t have supported on principle but HUD? May as well have me teach a class on Advanced Physics. There was no logical reason to give Carson HUD and he proves it daily.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:10:09am

re: #234 Citizen K

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To call it a distraction is to say it doesn’t matter. The problem is, for a wide swath of Americans who just happen to not be white, it very much matters. And it’s the kind of thing that gets dismissed by those who pretend they know better as ‘identity politics’ when those who are affected by this kind of overt racism soaking into every aspect of American discourse complain.

But don’t you dare call conservatives who are pro-forced birth, anti-abortion, pro-guns for everyone, anti-women’s rights supporters of “identity politics”—they’ll be indignantly insulted.

All politics is identity politics.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:10:26am

re: #248 Sir John Barron

The PV was everywhere fraudulent but the EC vote that comes from the PV was somehow perfectly OK.
//

Yeah that’s his pathetic logic.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:11:01am

re: #250 Anymouse 🌹

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But don’t you dare call conservatives who are pro-forced birth, anti-abortion, pro-guns for everyone, anti-women’s rights supporters of “identity politics”—they’ll be indignantly insulted.

All politics is identity politics.

Conservative politics is the ultimate form of identity politics in this country.

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Targetpractice  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:11:42am

re: #244 Sir John Barron

Something tells me that dump doesn’t actually care about Bmore and rats, and that he’s just ranting about Cummings’ subpoenas.

half sarc

That’s the reason he’s going after Cummings, but the methods he’s going about it are largely the same as he’s used for years against efforts to investigate his businesses and personal matters. As he learned from Roy Cohn, if you can’t buy off somebody, you intimidate them until they back off. In this case, he’s trying to get city and people of Baltimore to forsake Cummings, in the hope that Cummings will fear for his political future and work a deal with Donny to make the matter “go away.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:11:47am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

Or even HHS. I wouldn’t have supported on principle but HUD? May as well have me teach a class on Advanced Physics. There was no logical reason to give Carson HUD and he proves it daily.

Two logical reasons:

1) Trump’s a racist, so put the black guy in charge of HUD to show he has a black friend.
2) Destroy HUD from the inside.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:12:13am

re: #245 sagehen

This will be a treasure-trove.

Trump himself has always been anti-email, because he knows it’s evidence and didn’t want it preserved. But Ivanka and Jared are millennials…

Just like how Idi Amin never issued written orders (well, he was allegedly illiterate) - he’d only give verbal orders to his henchmen in the State Research Bureau (the secret police), like, “Give him the VIP treatment.” Which meant torture them, kill them and just dump their bodies somewhere.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:12:14am

re: #254 Anymouse 🌹

Two logical reasons:

1) Trump’s a racist, so put the black guy in charge of HUD to show he has a black friend.
2) Destroy HUD from the inside.

You know what I meant.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:12:43am

re: #255 Dr Lizardo

Just like how Idi Amin never issued written orders (well, he was allegedly illiterate) - he’d only give verbal orders to his henchmen in the State Research Bureau (the secret police), like, “Give him the VIP treatment.” Which meant torture them, kill them and just dump their bodies somewhere.

Mob bosses are famous for using buffers.

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Targetpractice  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:13:57am

re: #254 Anymouse 🌹

Two logical reasons:

1) Trump’s a racist, so put the black guy in charge of HUD to show he has a black friend.
2) Destroy HUD from the inside.

I’d off 3) “Reward” Carson for loyalty while leaving seats more important to his overall plans open.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:15:18am

re: #258 Targetpractice

I’d off 3) “Reward” Carson for loyalty while leaving seats more important to his overall plans open.

It definitely was a patronage appointment. Most of his really bad ones are.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:15:39am

re: #256 HappyWarrior

You know what I meant.

Actually I didn’t; I read it straight. Sorry. Snark doesn’t always come across well in text.

We need a snark font.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:17:06am

re: #260 Anymouse 🌹

Actually I didn’t; I read it straight. Sorry. Snark doesn’t always come across well in text.

We need a snark font.

It does seem to come out when there is blood in the water, so to speak.
/ (oh, you said *snark*)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:17:21am

re: #260 Anymouse 🌹

Actually I didn’t; I read it straight. Sorry. Snark doesn’t always come across well in text.

We need a snark font.

It’s cool. But yeah I know he’s not serious about the mission of HUD at all which is why his crocodile tears over Baltimore’s problems infuriate me more.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:21:19am

The new DNI pick Radcliffe is a classic example of this. He’s unqualified but he did attack Mueller and is seen as a Trump loyalist. That’s the only reason he’s the designee for DNI.

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:26:27am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

Or even HHS. I wouldn’t have supported on principle but HUD? May as well have me teach a class on Advanced Physics. There was no logical reason to give Carson HUD and he proves it daily.

Because destroying functioning government is the DNA of the GOP.

It has nothing to do with competency to do the job. Trump has repeatedly put unqualified and incompetent people in charge of federal departments and agencies. Fealty to Trump is what is important, not the ability to do the job.

He wants yes men. He wants people telling him what he wants to hear (hence those awful cabinet meetings where everyone tells him how great Trump is), not what he needs to hear.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:26:47am

He gave an interview to German TV and bragged that he now owned the tallest building in “Lower Manhattan”

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:29:38am

re: #265 The Pie Overlord!

Trump’s first response to 9/11 was probably trying to figure out how he could make immediate profit from the event.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:30:08am

I watch these clips with the sound off because Trump’s voice annoys the shit out of me, and it’s just weird the way he tilts his head back and forth when he shifts from one teleprompter screen to the other. He is too vain to wear glasses so the TP screens are configured to display the largest available font, which means there are only 3 or 4 words on each screen.

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:31:14am

re: #267 The Pie Overlord!

But remember that Trump used to attack Obama for teleprompter usage.

And for golfing.

Especially the golfing.

Trump is golfing 2.6 times more than Obama ever did. At this rate, Trump will vastly exceed the number of times Obama golfed during his 8 years. At some points, Trump was nearly golfing 3x as often as Obama. Obama golfed 322 times in 8 years.

Trump is on pace to golf at higher rate than anyone other than Eisenhower and Wilson.

presidentialgolftracker.com

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:31:31am

It’s apparent that the Gilroy shooter was a deeply indoctrinated white supremacist who called Mexican immigrants “mestizos” and quoted from Nazi source materials.
Since his first name was Santino however, fascist liars and other Republicans are able to mis-characterize him as Hispanic and even as an immigrant himself, which he certainly is not.
Santino William Legan: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:33:28am

re: #254 Anymouse 🌹

Two logical reasons:

1) Trump’s a racist, so put the black guy in charge of HUD to show he has a black friend.
2) Destroy HUD from the inside.

Somebody like Rick Perry who has no idea what the department even does.

In Carson’s case, he is even more clueless, never having worked in government before.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:33:43am

re: #269 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Santino? That was “Sonny” Corleone’s actual first name. I’ve met a couple of Santino’s in Italy - granted, maybe it’s not the most common name, but I’ve heard it before in my travels.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:34:00am

Also noted has been Trump’s silence during the whole ongoing saga of getting extension to the health support for the first responders. Plenty of nice words, but no concrete action or opinion towards helping getting that approved.

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Targetpractice  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:34:31am

re: #268 lawhawk

But remember that Trump used to attack Obama for teleprompter usage.

Wasn’t simply Trump. Every wingnut from here to Azerbaijan insisted he was a poor public speaker every time he used a teleprompter and a rambling fool every time he didn’t.

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William Lewis  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:35:48am

re: #90 teleskiguy

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I still have that CD. My sister still has her CD too.

Pieces of Eight by Styx

This was the title track…

Pieces Of Eight

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:36:12am

re: #265 The Pie Overlord!

He gave an interview to German TV and bragged that he now owned the tallest building in “Lower Manhattan”

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OFFS

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:36:18am

re: #273 Targetpractice

Wasn’t simply Trump. Every wingnut from here to Azerbaijan insisted he was a poor public speaker every time he used a teleprompter and a rambling fool every time he didn’t.

And they obsessively counted every time he said “I” to “prove” that he was a narcissist.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:36:59am

re: #269 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

It’s apparent that the Gilroy shooter was a deeply indoctrinated white supremacist who called Mexican immigrants “mestizos” and quoted from Nazi source materials.
Since his first name was Santino however, fascist liars and other Republicans are able to mis-characterize him as Hispanic and even as an immigrant himself, which he certainly is not.
Santino William Legan: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Santino Corleone, we have Tom Hagen.

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b.d.  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:37:05am

re: #268 lawhawk

But remember that Trump used to attack Obama for teleprompter usage.

lol, the secret is to search for the misspellings too

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:37:09am

Matt Gaetz (R-drunk) started a rumour that Elijah Cummings is in Venice, Italy, and the fright wing is all over social media and right-wing blogs carrying forward that lie.

Expect it to be on FOX soon, followed by Trump attacking Mr. Cummings over that.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:37:27am

re: #271 Dr Lizardo

Santino? That was “Sonny” Corleone’s actual first name. I’ve met a couple of Santino’s in Italy - granted, maybe it’s not the most common name, but I’ve heard it before in my travels.

Ha GTMA

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Targetpractice  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:38:40am

re: #279 Anymouse 🌹

Matt Gaetz (R-drunk) started a rumour that Elijah Cummings is in Venice, Italy, and the fright wing is all over social media and right-wing blogs carrying forward that lie.

Expect it to be on FOX soon, followed by Trump attacking Mr. Cummings over that.

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Followed shortly by the “liberal” media picking up Faux’s reporting on the lie and effectively asking Cummings “Have you stopped beating your constituents?”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:39:57am

re: #279 Anymouse 🌹

Matt Gaetz (R-drunk) started a rumour that Elijah Cummings is in Venice, Italy, and the fright wing is all over social media and right-wing blogs carrying forward that lie.

Expect it to be on FOX soon, followed by Trump attacking Mr. Cummings over that.

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Gaetz is the Breitbart section elected to Congress and I’m sad to say he’ll probably be in Congress longer than Cummings will be. One is a public servant, the other is a shit wingnut.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:44:30am

re: #265 The Pie Overlord!

He gave an interview to German TV and bragged that he now owned the tallest building in “Lower Manhattan”

What Donald Trump literally said that day was: “40 Wall street actually was the second-tallest building in downtown Manhattan, and it was actually before the World Trade Center the tallest, and and then when they built the World Trade Center it became known as the second-tallest, and now it’s the tallest And I just spoke to my people, and they said it’s the most unbelievable sight, it’s probably seven or eight blocks away from the World Trade Center, and yet Wall Street is littered with two feet of stone and brick and mortar and steel …”

Snopes equivocates on whether Trump was bragging by putting the interview by the journalists in context.

They interviewed him right after the attack on Manhattan but before anyone knew who did it. They feel it’s reasonable when the tallest buildings in Manhattan were attacked, if another attack on Manhattan occurred they might come after the second-tallest.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:45:34am

re: #283 Anymouse 🌹

Snopes equivocates on whether Trump was bragging by putting the interview by the journalists in context.

They interviewed him right after the attack on Manhattan but before anyone knew who did it. They feel it’s reasonable when the tallest buildings in Manhattan were attacked, if another attack on Manhattan occurred they might come after the second-tallest.

Either way. Stupid thing to bring up and he definitely wasn’t a first responder.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:48:07am

You know, when the wingnuts try to say, “HIS NAME WAS SANTINO AND THAT’S NOT A REAL ‘MERICAN NAME HE MUSTA BEEN AN ILLEGAL!!”, three of my uncles - all born in the good ol’ USA mind you, were named

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Wingnuts - clueless as always.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:49:44am

re: #285 Dr Lizardo

You know, when the wingnuts try to say, “HIS NAME WAS SANTINO AND THAT’S NOT A REAL ‘MERICAN NAME HE MUSTA BEEN AN ILLEGAL!!”, three of uncles - all born in the good ol’ USA mind you, were named

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Wingnuts - clueless as always.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:51:24am

re: #286 HappyWarrior

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:52:55am

re: #280 HappyWarrior

Santino?

Santino D’Antonio… the bad guy from John Wick 2.

The guy who was Italian through and through who got his comeuppance courtesy of the Bogeyman.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:53:16am

re: #287 Dr Lizardo

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:54:05am

re: #288 lawhawk

Santino?

Santino D’Antonio… the bad guy from John Wick 2.

The guy who was Italian through and through who got his comeuppance courtesy of the Bogeyman.

Never saw the Wick films. This is all so dumb.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:54:16am

Queen Elizabeth II is one of the last living WW2 veterans in the United Kingdom, so this will probably be even more elaborate than the death of King George VI. (16:04)

The Insanely Elaborate Plan for When the Queen Dies

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:57:02am

re: #291 Anymouse 🌹

Queen Elizabeth II is one of the last living WW2 veterans in the United Kingdom, so this will probably be even more elaborate than the death of King George VI. (16:04)

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For so many young and old, she’s all they’ve ever known. I have to admit even though I find constitutional monarchies and monarchies period silly. I like Elizabeth.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:59:02am

Yeah right. I can just visualize him picking up rebar with his soft white baby hands, and daintily stepping over the wreckage in his fine Italian lift shoes.

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:59:04am

re: #283 Anymouse 🌹

It was never the 2d tallest.

The tallest buildings in Manhattan at the time of the 9/11 attacks, in rank order:

1 and 2 WTC
Empire State Building
Chrysler Building
70 Pine
40 Wall - that’s Trump’s building. It was superseded within months by the ESB, Chrysler, and 70 Pine in 1930-1932.

Trump lies about everything, including the most ordinary kinds and inconsequential facts.

Taken together, it shows a pattern of lying that knows no bounds.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:59:16am

re: #291 Anymouse 🌹

I’ve heard about that in the past. Yeah, when she passes away, the whole UK’s basically going to shut down entirely.

Granted, I can sort of understand that; she’s been the British Monarch longer than I’ve been alive (I’m almost 50) so in my case, she’s the only British Monarch I’ve ever known in my lifetime.

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KGxvi  Jul 29, 2019 • 7:59:38am

re: #21 Citizen K

Worth noting:

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The thread goes on further, but yeah, basically, immigration courts are a fucking unaccountable kangaroo court mess that is apparently legally able to deny you your constitutional rights because “HOLY SHIT SUPER BROWN INVASION”.

Immigration courts aren’t really courts in the constitutional sense. They are administrative hearings under the APA. Administrative law judges aren’t judges in the traditional sense, they’re really part of the executive branch exercising “quasi-judicial” powers. It’s been that way for decades and is something that we should be looking at, but we probably won’t.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:01:12am

re: #293 The Pie Overlord!

Yeah right. I can just visualize him picking up rebar with his soft white baby hands, and daintily stepping over the wreckage in his fine Italian lift shoes.

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They’ll take his word at this but they believe Obama was born in Kenya. He’s full of shit. He wasn’t there.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:02:10am

Sigh this is gonna be become part of Trumps lies- I WAS A FIRST RESPONDER!

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wrenchwench  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:02:15am
Who to follow
EL PASO POLICE DEPT
@EPPOLICE

Why, twitter, why?

Oh, I know. My ‘trending’ is set for Juarez. Still…

Ricardo Rosselló
@ricardorossello

Bad algorithms can only take so much credit.

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Targetpractice  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:06:05am

And like all Trump stories, you’ll have to totally take his word that it’s true, because there’s not going to be evidence ever offered to prove it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:08:29am

One thing for sure. When he signs this. He won’t be telling Rand Paul and Mike Lee to go back to where they came from nor will he go after McConnell for blocking it or think Jon Stewart for championing its passage.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:10:24am

re: #292 HappyWarrior

For so many young and old, she’s all they’ve ever known. I have to admit even though I find constitutional monarchies and monarchies period silly. I like Elizabeth.

I like Queen Elizabeth as well. She is named after my wife. /s

She presided over the collapse of the British Empire and the creation of the Commonwealth. She has always carried out the duties of Queen with dignity and grace.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:13:33am

re: #291 Anymouse 🌹

Queen Elizabeth II is one of the last living WW2 veterans in the United Kingdom, so this will probably be even more elaborate than the death of King George VI. (16:04)

The biggest tragedy will of course be Charles’ accession to the throne, I think Elizabeth is hoping to outlive him and see one of her grandsons take over…If she considered him at all competent, she would have stepped down ages ago…

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sagehen  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:13:45am

And she learned from her mistakes, finding the right balance between “respecting tradition” and “changing with the times.”

Her children’s marriages were shitshows, all of them, because of the rules about who they can pick. And their divorces were nightmares. She was smart enough to set different standards for her grandchildren’s marriages.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:14:09am

re: #300 Targetpractice

And like all Trump stories, you’ll have to totally take his word that it’s true, because there’s not going to be evidence ever offered to prove it.

Stolen Gory.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:15:12am

re: #304 sagehen

And she learned from her mistakes, finding the right balance between “respecting tradition” and “changing with the times.”

Her children’s marriages were shitshows, all of them, because of the rules about who they can pick. And their divorces were nightmares. She was smart enough to set different standards for her grandchildren’s marriages.

It really disgusts me how Meagan is being attacked by the right wingers in the British press.

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Targetpractice  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:15:44am

re: #305 Decatur Deb

Stolen Gory.

“HOW DO YOU KNOW HE WASN’T THERE?!”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:15:50am

re: #304 sagehen

And she learned from her mistakes, finding the right balance between “respecting tradition” and “changing with the times.”

Her children’s marriages were shitshows, all of them, because of the rules about who they can pick. And their divorces were nightmares. She was smart enough to set different standards for her grandchildren’s marriages.

Plus the law has been changed in the UK: Instead of the oldest male in the line of succession ascending to the throne, now it’s the oldest child.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:16:16am

re: #306 HappyWarrior

It really disgusts me how Meagan is being attacked by the right wingers in the British press.

And we all know damn well exactly why that is.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:16:41am

re: #307 Targetpractice

“HOW DO YOU KNOW HE WASN’T THERE?!”

He was at the Pan-Arab Dance Festival.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:17:03am

re: #309 Dr Lizardo

And we all know damn well exactly why that is.

Yep.

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:17:25am

John Oliver digs deep into the Boris Johnson thing… from his public persona to the shifty lying asshattery:

Boris Johnson: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

Johnson is a more competent version of Trump, but they both are con men at their core.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:17:38am

re: #308 Anymouse 🌹

Plus the law has been changed in the UK: Instead of the oldest male in the line of succession ascending to the throne, now it’s the oldest child.

When my ex-wife was born, her younger brother would have stood to inherit the entire family estate over her as the oldest male heir they only changed that law in 1974

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:19:02am

So much of what we take for granted in society today comes from people who saw the problems of the past and wanted to change that. The people who didn’t accept that are today’s reactionary right.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:20:49am

re: #314 HappyWarrior

So much of what we take for granted in society today comes from people who saw the problems of the past and wanted to change that. The people who didn’t accept that are today’s reactionary right.

And those who did not see the reason before the change, who did not see what life was like before the civil rights, women’s right or gay rights movements.

Or who did not care.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:20:57am

re: #309 Dr Lizardo

And we all know damn well exactly why that is.

Same reason they attack her here.

It’s because her styling is Duchess of Sussex as an American. /s

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:21:55am

re: #315 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And those who did not see the reason before the change, who did not see what life was like before the civil rights, women’s right or gay rights movements.

Or who did not care.

Why I study history. There’s good and bad with the past. But mostly things have gotten better.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:22:05am

re: #316 Anymouse 🌹

Same reason they attack her here.

It’s because her styling is Duchess of Sussex as an American. /s

On the other hand, nobody is forcing these people to assume a royal title…and that precedent was clearly set in the last century…

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sagehen  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:25:35am

re: #306 HappyWarrior

It really disgusts me how Meagan is being attacked by the right wingers in the British press.

I didn’t even realize she was black until that started. I love “Suits”, watched every episode, and was stunned when Wendell Pierce turned out to be her dad. Even now, I don’t see much resemblance between her and her mom.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:26:11am

re: #303 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The biggest tragedy will of course be Charles’ accession to the throne, I think Elizabeth is hoping to outlive him and see one of her grandsons take over…If she considered him at all competent, she would have stepped down ages ago…

I’ve also seen speculation that he really doesn’t want to be king and would abdicate. I have no idea whether there’s any truth in that or not.

What happens to the religious movement amongst a Pacific cargo cult when their god Prince Phillip dies?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:26:51am

re: #320 Anymouse 🌹

I’ve also seen speculation that he really doesn’t want to be king and would abdicate. I have no idea whether there’s any truth in that or not.

What happens to the religious movement amongst a Pacific cargo cult when their god Prince Phillip dies?

He gets flown off to the big Amazon warehouse in the sky

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:27:41am

re: #318 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

On the other hand, nobody is forcing these people to assume a royal title…and that precedent was clearly set in the last century…

If Meaghan was a white woman from the US, she’d be the toast of the town. It’s all about who her mother is. Remember Churchill had an American mother.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:29:21am

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:33:12am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:33:34am

Still no remarks on the official White House Website on the mass-murders yesterday.

His Twitter rant ended two hours ago with attacks on the Federal Reserve.

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:36:09am

re: #325 Anymouse 🌹

He apparently said something during the 9/11 first responder statement in between word salad.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:37:08am

Michele Bachmann (R-Mars) is back …

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wrenchwench  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:38:24am

re: #326 lawhawk

He apparently said something during the 9/11 first responder statement in between word salad.

The victims were croutons. The perp was tongs.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:38:35am

re: #324 lawhawk

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God he can’t even do this right.

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:38:46am

re: #327 Anymouse 🌹

Most biblical?

Yeah, not in a good way. There were a lot of bad kings. You know, the kind that G-d used to smite regularly.

Folks like Pharaoh.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:39:35am

re: #330 lawhawk

Most biblical?

Yeah, not in a good way. There were a lot of bad kings. You know, the kind that G-d used to smite regularly.

Folks like Pharaoh.

Her bible is Atlas Shrugged.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:39:42am

re: #330 lawhawk

Most biblical?

Yeah, not in a good way. There were a lot of bad kings. You know, the kind that G-d used to smite regularly.

Folks like Pharaoh.

Yeah.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:39:47am

re: #330 lawhawk

Most biblical?

Yeah, not in a good way. There were a lot of bad kings. You know, the kind that G-d used to smite regularly.

Folks like Pharaoh.

Plagues are Biblical. So are talking snakes.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:40:13am

re: #327 Anymouse 🌹

Michele Bachmann (R-Mars) is back …

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King Eglon of Moab was Biblical.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:40:16am

re: #333 Anymouse 🌹

Plagues are Biblical. So are talking snakes.

Locusts…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:40:36am

re: #327 Anymouse 🌹

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:41:05am

I used to catalog the recovery and rebuilding efforts on a daily basis. I went down to the site occasionally and posted photos.

The only times Trump got involved in the discussion was to claim that he could rebuild faster and bigger than anyone else. No one took him seriously. No one.

He was always out to sell himself as a brand, not because he cared about anyone but himself and his profits.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:41:14am

re: #327 Anymouse 🌹

Michele Bachmann (R-Mars) is back …

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Well, you know……

so I guess she’s sort of right.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:41:40am

Smitey nice of St. Michele to drop in a bit of projection.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:41:45am

re: #330 lawhawk

Most biblical?

Yeah, not in a good way. There were a lot of bad kings. You know, the kind that G-d used to smite regularly.

Folks like Pharaoh.

Pharaoh wouldn’t be my go to, since according to the story, God specifically “hardened his heart” (took away his free will) so he could smite Egypt.

Trump is a willing douchecanoe.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:41:52am

re: #337 lawhawk

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I used to catalog the recovery and rebuilding efforts on a daily basis. I went down to the site occasionally and posted photos.

The only times Trump got involved in the discussion was to claim that he could rebuild faster and bigger than anyone else. No one took him seriously. No one.

He was always out to sell himself as a brand, not because he cared about anyone but himself and his profits.

Exactly.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:43:14am

Giuliani because he’s an unscrupulous liar will back this up of course.

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wrenchwench  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:43:30am

re: #336 Joe Bacon 🌹

[Nail him to a cross and wait three days to see what happens.]

If he can get a hairdresser after the crown of thorns is applied, he’ll do it.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:44:24am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:46:25am

re: #320 Anymouse 🌹

re: #321 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They’ll devolve into Republican Evangelicals
Cargo Cult Christians (LGF October, 2010)

1. Tribal society- Emphasize family ties and patriarchal structure, use 3000 year old documents written by superstitious shepherds.
2. Belief in primitive magic, ie prayer can cure leukemia.
3. Confused and frightened when confronted by rapid technological and social change.
4. Failure to understand scientific origin of “cargo,” believing the earth to be just 6000 years old while burning refined petroleum products in their SUVs and using computers, for example.
5. Belief that sacred “cargo” is divinely ordained for benefit of believers.
6. Absurd and comically inept attempts to mimic the behavior of those perceived to be more blessed; American servicemen in the Pacific, millionaires and major entrepreneurs in the modern USA, for example.

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wrenchwench  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:46:26am

Gonna need a reinforced, heavy-duty cross. And that side-piercing? Can it be sterile?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:46:36am

re: #343 wrenchwench

If he can get a hairdresser after the crown of thorns is applied, he’ll do it.

That would prevent his hair from blowing in the wind.

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wrenchwench  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:47:42am

re: #347 Anymouse 🌹

That would prevent his hair from blowing in the wind.

Better than Aquanet!

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Teukka  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:47:44am

Re: Anglification of names…

It’s a common tactic to change the language to misdirect.
Like, Great Roses, Beech Valley and Theresetown don’t sound that bad in English…

Click to Reveal

I could’ve mentioned Badger Meadows and Birch Meadows, but I’ve used those here already, so people know they refer to Dachau and Birkenau, respectively.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:47:57am

I’m off for a nap. I need to go into town with a water sample later.

Catch y’all later.

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Targetpractice  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:48:54am

re: #344 Anymouse 🌹

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The flip side to “He’s getting us the judges and laws we want!” is that evangelicals are totally weakening their power base and doing lasting damage to their future efforts to maintain the size of the flock.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:48:55am

re: #346 wrenchwench

Gonna need a reinforced, heavy-duty cross. And that side-piercing? Can it be sterile?

“But it’s a Trump Cross! Made from the finest maple grown in the Trump Forest!”

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:50:04am

I called it back in 2005. Trump was trying to grift and scam by claiming he could build bigger even as he was scaling back efforts to build a skyscraper in Chicago.

Mr. Carley said he was preparing for a tough fight in Chicago to get his tower approved but did not expect its height to be a chief concern - even though he currently has approval only to build two structures of 300 feet and 500 feet. Donald J. Trump had plans for a 150-story building in Chicago but cut it back to 90 stories shortly after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Mr. Carley dismissed Mr. Trump’s decision as a reaction to the soft commercial market, but Mr. Trump said the reason was security. “Nobody in his right mind would build a building of that height in today’s horrible world,” he said in a telephone interview on Monday.

“I don’t think this is a real project,” Mr. Trump said of the Fordham Spire. “It’s a total charade.”

Trump recently got behind a plan to rebuild the Twin Towers that was put forth by Kenneth Gardner and Herbert Belton. Something doesn’t quite add up here. I know that Trump is a glory-whore, but his statements would appear to undercut his stance on rebuilding the Twin Towers at Ground Zero. I think this needs further investigation.

It was totally a transparent headline effort - get in the press and be seen as someone who could build at the WTC while everything was still in limbo, but the reality is he never had a coherent plan or vision for anything beyond himself in the press.

He had no credibility among anyone who was involved in the process.

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:55:10am

re: #353 lawhawk

At that time, I also posted that Trump getting involved might potentially help since he was notorious for jawboning others into doing what he wanted. That compared with Steve Cuozzo at the NY Post who thought it was a spectacularly bad idea.

Turns out everyone who was involved in the decision making at the WTC complex ignored Trump. He was a nonentity in the rebuilding, and for good reason. As slow as the rebuilding efforts were (and they are still ongoing going on 18 years later), Trump had nothing to offer anyone.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:55:22am

re: #352 Joe Bacon 🌹

“But it’s a Trump Cross! Made from the finest maple grown in the Trump Forest!”

More like “made of tin, spray-painted antique gold”.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:55:38am

I just remembered that a lot of 90’s pop culture mocked Trump relentlessly.

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cat-tikvah  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:57:06am

re: #276 The Pie Overlord!

I specifically remember Dennis Prager bloviating about that. Stopped being a listener years ago.
*spit*

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:58:39am

re: #357 cat-tikvah

I specifically remember Dennis Prager bloviating about that. Stopped being a listener years ago.
*spit*

I guess Prager U is the safety school if you don’t get into Trump University.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:58:52am

re: #356 HappyWarrior

I just remembered that a lot of 90’s pop culture mocked Trump relentlessly.

Trump was pretty much a universal laughing stock in the 1990s. He was considered a bargain-basement huckster, pushing cheap shit with his name tacked onto it and sold at outlets like The Sharper Image.

He was a joke. It was The Apprentice that allowed him to remake his image.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:00:14am

re: #359 Dr Lizardo

Trump was pretty much a universal laughing stock in the 1990s. He was considered a bargain-basement huckster, pushing cheap shit with his name tacked onto it and sold at outlets like The Sharper Image.

He was a joke. It was The Apprentice that allowed him to remake his image.

Yeah and I guess my impression was the Apprentice reenforced that.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:01:10am

re: #357 cat-tikvah

I specifically remember Dennis Prager bloviating about that. Stopped being a listener years ago.
*spit*

Prager is a racist. Remember his rants when he was on KABC.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:01:12am

Trump becoming a champion of the “every man” is such an indictment of how gullible people are.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:05:39am

re: #360 HappyWarrior

Yeah and I guess my impression was the Apprentice reenforced that.

The Apprentice allowed Trump to remake his image into that of a highly successful business tycoon.

He was anything but - it was just a performance. But nonetheless, that performance fooled millions of Americans into thinking he was prime Presidential material.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:05:40am

re: #310 Decatur Deb

He was at the Pan-Arab Dance Festival.

Snopes says.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:08:49am

re: #363 Dr Lizardo

The Apprentice allowed Trump to remake his image into that of a highly successful business tycoon.

He was anything but - it was just a performance. But nonetheless, that performance fooled millions of Americans into thinking he was prime Presidential material.

Yeah I guess I was naive and thought most people saw that for what it is, Trump hogging the camera.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:10:20am

re: #364 Eventual Carrion

Snopes says.

IOW, Trump’s full of shit - as usual.

Richard Alles, a retired deputy chief with the New York City Fire Department (FDNY), who now serves as director of 9/11 community affairs for the law firm Barasch McGarry Salzman and Penson, told us that in all the hours, days and months he spent at Ground Zero as an FDNY battalion chief starting 20 minutes after the buildings collapsed, he never witnessed a large group of workers hired by Trump at the site helping with search and rescue. “This is the first I’m hearing of it,” Alles told us by phone. “There would have been no need for that. Between police, fire and the construction crews, we had it all covered.”

Alles added that the construction crews he saw at Ground Zero who came to help rescue workers were from the trade unions and were not hired by Trump.

John Feal, founder of the 9/11 first responder health advocacy non-profit the FealGood Foundation, responded to Ground Zero on 12 September 2001 as a construction demolitions expert. He also told us he didn’t see evidence of hundreds of workers hired by Trump at the site, and added that by 15 September 2001 the area was on lock down. “There was no way anyone could get in and out of there without a [government-issued] badge,” he told us. (Feal was forced off the site as of 17 September 2001 when he suffered a life-threatening injury caused by a 4-ton piece of steel falling on his foot, crushing it and resulting in a major infection.)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:13:09am

His whole life and image is nothing but lies.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:14:16am

re: #359 Dr Lizardo

Trump was pretty much a universal laughing stock in the 1990s. He was considered a bargain-basement huckster, pushing cheap shit with his name tacked onto it and sold at outlets like The Sharper Image.

He was a joke. It was The Apprentice that allowed him to remake his image.

I never saw a single episode of the Apprentice, though I have seen a few clips. I think this may be one reason I, and many others, tended not to take Trump seriously until it was too late. Relatively rational and serious people have a hard time grasping how much weight trash pop-culture can carry with a sizable part of the population.

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wrenchwench  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:15:39am

re: #367 HappyWarrior

His whole life and image is nothing but lies.

And now he’s pretending to be serious. Some people take what he says seriously. Other people take what he does seriously.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:15:43am

re: #368 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I never saw a single episode of the Apprentice, though I have seen a few clips. I think this may be one reason I, and many others, tended not to take Trump seriously until it was too late. Relatively rational and serious people have a hard time grasping how much weight trash pop-culture can carry with a sizable part of the population.

Hate to say it, but there’s probably a whole lotta people out there who’d vote for Kim Kardashian if she ran for POTUS.

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Kilroy was here  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:17:17am

Brazil president threatens to jail journalist Glenn Greenwald

thehill.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:18:27am

re: #371 Kilroy was here

Brazil president threatens to jail journalist Glenn Greenwald

thehill.com

I would say haw haw but I try to a better person than him.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:19:01am

re: #369 wrenchwench

And now he’s pretending to be serious. Some people take what he says seriously. Other people take what he does seriously.

I know. Scary shit.

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wrenchwench  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:19:41am

re: #368 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

[…] Relatively rational and serious people have a hard time grasping how much weight trash pop-culture can carry with a sizable part of the population.

And many people grasp that, and have learned how to manipulate it on FB and twitland. This also needs to be taken seriously. Putin took an election with it.

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:20:08am

re: #366 Dr Lizardo

Immediately after the attacks, everything below Canal Street was a no-go zone. Only in-out were law enforcement and first responders. Everyone else was prohibited. The zone got reduced to the immediate vicinity of the WTC - and you had to show ID to get in - still only LEOs, first responders, and those involved in the demolition.

There’s no evidence at all that anyone involved in Trump org were doing work like he claimed. None.

If there were, don’t you think he’d be touting their work as his own contribution?

It’s just another one of his endless streams of lies.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:20:58am

re: #371 Kilroy was here

Brazil president threatens to jail journalist Glenn Greenwald

thehill.com

Greenwald responded to Bolsonaro on Twitter, calling him a “wanna-be dictator” who has no authority to kick him out of the country.

Glenn seems to have no idea how dangerous this is. Is he that sure of his protection or is he just stupid?

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:21:24am

re: #371 Kilroy was here

Brazil president threatens to jail journalist Glenn Greenwald

thehill.com

Brazil doesn’t have the same laws we do in the US.

I’d go ahead and say too bad, so sad, but I’m not particularly saddened by this. He was and always shall be a weasel.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:21:31am

re: #370 Dr Lizardo

Hate to say it, but there’s probably a whole lotta people out there who’d vote for Kim Kardashian if she ran for POTUS.

President Snooki were she not born in Chile.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:23:06am

re: #376 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Glenn seems to have no idea how dangerous this is. Is he that sure of his protection or is he just stupid?

Glenn spent his days bashing Western leaders that stood against what Bolsantaro does. I don’t want him persecuted but I’m not too sad for him really either.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:25:31am

re: #378 HappyWarrior

President Snooki were she not born in Chile.

Yeesh.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:25:37am

re: #379 HappyWarrior

Glenn spent his days bashing Western leaders that stood against what Bolsantaro does. I don’t want him persecuted but I’m not too sad for him really either.

The fate of worn-out tools throughout history.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:27:06am

re: #381 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The fate of worn-out tools throughout history.

Yep. It’s sad. Definitely thousands of other LGBT Brazilians I’ll tske before Glenn.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:29:31am

Greenwald flees to Russia in 3…2…1…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:30:02am

re: #383 Eclectic Cyborg

Greenwald flees to Russia in 3…2…1…

I bet Putin doesn’t take him. His use is gone.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:35:04am

Fascism isn’t so fun until it knocks at your door. Glenn is finding this out the hard way. Him and The Intercept told us to ignore it because to the Obama, Clinton, & the Dem establishment was worse. They owe a lot of apologies.

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William Lewis  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:36:14am

re: #330 lawhawk

Most biblical?

Yeah, not in a good way. There were a lot of bad kings. You know, the kind that G-d used to smite regularly.

Folks like Pharaoh.

Heh. That was the first one that popped into my mind. Haman too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:38:46am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:41:18am

re: #264 lawhawk

Because destroying functioning government is the DNA of the GOP.

It has nothing to do with competency to do the job. Trump has repeatedly put unqualified and incompetent people in charge of federal departments and agencies. Fealty to Trump is what is important, not the ability to do the job.

He wants yes men. He wants people telling him what he wants to hear (hence those awful cabinet meetings where everyone tells him how great Trump is), not what he needs to hear.

The Grover Norquist mantra: “I don’t want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:42:04am

re: #388 Hecuba’s daughter

The Grover Norquist mantra: “I don’t want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.”

Grover is nothing but a grifting piece of shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:42:31am

jeebus

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:42:41am

re: #371 Kilroy was here

Brazil president threatens to jail journalist Glenn Greenwald

thehill.com

I’m sure his pal Trump will come to his rescue…😏

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:43:27am

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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If that doesn’t qualify, nothing does. Barr and Trump want to get rid of asylum period. Evil assholes.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:43:53am

re: #391 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m sure his pal Trump will come to his rescue…😏

I’ll be dating Miss Rio before that happens.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:45:19am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:46:20am

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jeezus

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:46:46am

re: #393 HappyWarrior

I’ll be dating Miss Rio before that happens.

And that’ll happen right around the time I’m having daily threesomes with Halle Berry and Scarlett Johansson.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:47:38am

re: #396 Dr Lizardo

And that’ll happen right around the time I’m having daily threesomes with Halle Berry and Scarlett Johansson.

After Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, I wanna be Mr. Margot Robbie

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:48:12am

re: #382 HappyWarrior

Yep. It’s sad. Definitely thousands of other LGBT Brazilians I’ll tske before Glenn.

There is a real danger that RW forces could make Greenwald the lynchpin of a massive anti-gay progrom.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:48:29am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:48:47am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:49:02am

re: #398 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

There is a real danger that RW forces could make Greenwald the lynchpin of a massive anti-gay progrom.

My fears exactly

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wrenchwench  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:49:30am

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

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On that channel earlier:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:49:42am

meeting didn’t last very long.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:50:39am

re: #399 The Pie Overlord!

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He did not however do more than Hillary Clinton.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:52:45am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:54:15am

re: #374 wrenchwench

And many people grasp that, and have learned how to manipulate it on FB and twitland. This also needs to be taken seriously. Putin took an election with it.

I think we will eventually learn that Putin’s work as a KGB officer had a lot to do with the success of his influence campaign many years later. His job was monitoring western media. He was able to do this from a point of view that was relatively free of western class prejudice. This would give him a highly developed skill at spotting trends and opportunities that others would tend to ignore.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:55:56am

re: #398 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

There is a real danger that RW forces could make Greenwald the lynchpin of a massive anti-gay progrom.

I may not think much of Greenwald because of his politics and how they leak into his journalism, but in the context of Brazil the way he’s being targeted should make us all worry. With all of these new reactionary/authoritarian governments, the things they’re throwing out onto social media are like…market research…of what they actually intend to implement generally.

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Citizen K  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:55:57am

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

They’re doing all they can to criminalize asylum, and with it, immigration as a whole.

And they’re going to get away with it probably.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:56:28am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:57:04am

re: #406 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I think we will eventually learn that Putin’s work as a KGB officer had a lot to do with the success of his influence campaign many years later. His job was monitoring western media. He was able to do this from a point of view that was relatively free of western class prejudice. This would give him a highly developed skill at spotting trends and opportunities that others would tend to ignore.

He definitely was more informed than the average KGB man let alone Russian how to manipulate public opinion. I’d love Vlad to end up like Milosevic did.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:59:32am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:00:13am

re: #411 The Pie Overlord!

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Same reason it was okay for Trump to question HRC’s stamina.

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wrenchwench  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:00:57am

re: #406 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I think we will eventually learn that Putin’s work as a KGB officer had a lot to do with the success of his influence campaign many years later. His job was monitoring western media. He was able to do this from a point of view that was relatively free of western class prejudice. This would give him a highly developed skill at spotting trends and opportunities that others would tend to ignore.

Putin studied how Obama won in 2012. Obama used FB very well. One of Obama’s strengths was doing more with less money. Putin was able to do more with MORE money.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:00:57am

re: #410 HappyWarrior

He definitely was more informed than the average KGB man let alone Russian how to manipulate public opinion. I’d love Vlad to end up like Milosevic did.

There was an analogous situation in Germany in the 1920s. Nazi theoreticians recognized and exploited the virulent anti-semitism of the working and lower middle classes at a time when the press and intellectuals liked to pretend it either didn’t exist or wasn’t serious if it did.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:01:42am

re: #412 HappyWarrior

Same reason it was okay for Trump to question HRC’s stamina.

Everything is projection.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:02:26am

re: #414 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

There was an analogous situation in Germany in the 1920s. Nazi theoreticians recognized and exploited the virulent anti-semitism of the working and lower middle classes at a time when the press and intellectuals liked to pretend it either didn’t exist or wasn’t serious if it did.

Perfect analogy

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HappyWarrior  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:02:35am

re: #415 The Pie Overlord!

Everything is projection.

Yes it is.

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:05:04am
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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:07:08am

Caban is going to continue fighting after barely winning the initial count. It went to an automatic recount, and after the tallies of absentees and provisionals, Katz came out ahead by the slimmest of margins.

Whoever wins will likely dominate in the fall general election.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:07:58am

re: #411 The Pie Overlord!

Joy Reid
✔
@JoyAnnReid
Honest question: why was it OK for people to openly speculate about Robert Mueller’s potential age-related decline based on the way he spoke one time, but a big taboo to ask the same about Donald Trump?

…

If, as reported above, his Teleprompter displays only 3-4 words at a time, it’s no wonder that he mispronounces words — reading smoothly and correctly requires seeing words in context and there is no context unless you can view the entire sentence. This is especially true when this is the first time you are seeing the statement. Does anyone really believe Trump wastes time reviewing a speech in advance of a presentation?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:08:05am

re: #389 HappyWarrior

Grover is nothing but a grifting piece of shit.

He found a market niche, near-zero taxes and minimal government.

It sold well

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:08:22am

re: #414 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

There was an analogous situation in Germany in the 1920s. Nazi theoreticians recognized and exploited the virulent anti-semitism of the working and lower middle classes at a time when the press and intellectuals liked to pretend it either didn’t exist or wasn’t serious if it did.

Most notoriously, Julius Streicher and Der Stürmer - a rag so vile and obscene that even high-ranking Nazis like Göring complained about it. Nonetheless, Hitler was a big fan and read it every week.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:08:34am

So, a thing happened this weekend. I was at a water park with my family. My wife points out a 30-something guy with several tattoos. In the center of his back was a swastika, with the phrase “Pure White” running down his spine and over the swastika. On his chest was a Nazi eagle. Just below that, on either side of his mid drift was 14 and 88. There were several other tattoos, that I am sure involved Nazi imagery, but nothing I was familiar with. Guy was a straight up Nazi.

I didn’t say anything, and to my knowledge, no one else did either. I don’t like the idea of someone like that being able to go out into public without backlash. On the other hand, getting into a fight in front of my wife and 5 year old son wasn’t high on my list either (the risk of which certainly increases upon confrontation).

Don’t really feel great about not having said anything.

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danarchy  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:09:58am

re: #411 The Pie Overlord!

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This seems like a strawman to me. How is it taboo to question Trumps faculties. I see people do it all the time, How often has the 25th amendment been invoked in regards to Trump. Sure he has his sycophants that will defend him, but I don’t see anyone getting shunned or losing their jobs over it.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:10:14am

re: #418 lawhawk

I’m losing the drift on the entire “Keep your insurance/Medicare for all” issue. I’ve been on Medicare for about 15 years, and in all of that time we’ve backed it up with my old employment-based plan. (Mainly because we don’t trust the polititians not to leave us high and dry.)

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:13:15am

re: #425 Decatur Deb

Most of this is spin by different plan proponents.

Some plans would have a M4A as the foundation plan. You could then have an employer superimposed plan that goes beyond what M4A does.

Other proposals would do away with the private insurers and roll them into administrators of M4A (or similar notion) so as to maximize efficiencies within the medical practice since medical billing to insurers is too complex, and you could see cost savings in that area alone.

Hybrid plans, replacement plans, or, as the GOP are offering up - no plan.

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sagehen  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:15:02am

re: #388 Hecuba’s daughter

The Grover Norquist mantra: “I don’t want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.”

If Exxon and BP decide that demolishing the fishing industry is no big deal if it saves them 5% on their drilling costs… don’t you want a government big enough and strong enough to stop them?

If a couple of coal mine owners are willing to poison all the water in West Virginia to save a few bucks on properly reinforcing the slough ponds… don’t you want a government big enough and strong enough to stop them?

If Walmart and Amazon/Whole Foods wants to outlaw supermarkets, or grain exports, so you can only buy from them and farmers can only sell to them at whatever price they decide… don’t you want a government big enough and strong enough to say “NO!”?

Weak governments that let a few of the biggest businesses make all the decisions is pretty much the definition of a banana republic.

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Belafon  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:15:38am

re: #418 lawhawk

Willis is critiquing Warren as well, whether he knows it or not.

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sagehen  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:17:58am

re: #397 HappyWarrior

After Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, I wanna be Mr. Margot Robbie

um…. Please reconsider. The guy married to that character was Roman Polanski.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:18:22am

My surprise. Let me show you it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:19:07am

re: #430 The Pie Overlord!

Gilroy Mass Shooter Was Apparent White Supremacist -

But he had an immigrant first name!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:19:17am

re: #430 The Pie Overlord!

My surprise. Let me show you it.

[Embedded content]

But why target a damned garlic festival? Did he just drive around and stop at the first place he saw a bunch of people?

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Belafon  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:20:18am

re: #430 The Pie Overlord!

My surprise. Let me show you it.

We should start using obvious in place of apparent.

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lawhawk  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:21:05am

re: #428 Belafon

I get that; here’s the thing.

Democrats put thought into their proposals. They think them through. Sure, there are holes and issues with the plans, but it addresses the criticism that they aren’t dealing with policy.

The script gets flipped and people complain that the plans are too dense and complicated. They prefer vaporware and elect Trump who had no plan and no substance to anything he said.

The media criticisms seem especially focused on the women in the race, while Trump gets a pass on everything that pops in his head.

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Teukka  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:21:35am

re: #422 Dr Lizardo

Most notoriously, Julius Streicher and Der Stürmer - a rag so vile and obscene that even high-ranking Nazis like Göring complained about it. Nonetheless, Hitler was a big fan and read it every week.

Streicher also published childrens books such as “Der GiftPilz”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:21:41am

Germany is in a tizzy over a young boy being pushed in front of a train and killed by an Eritrean immigrant.

Do not know much more on the details, but this is already generating a lot of buzz all over.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:23:25am

re: #435 Teukka

Streicher also published childrens books such as “Der GiftPilz”.

Yeah, that was such incredibly sick shit. Poisoning the minds of a generation and society at large.

Streicher got what he had coming to him.

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Belafon  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:25:11am

re: #434 lawhawk

I get that; here’s the thing.

Democrats put thought into their proposals. They think them through. Sure, there are holes and issues with the plans, but it addresses the criticism that they aren’t dealing with policy.

The script gets flipped and people complain that the plans are too dense and complicated. They prefer vaporware and elect Trump who had no plan and no substance to anything he said.

The media criticisms seem especially focused on the women in the race, while Trump gets a pass on everything that pops in his head.

I am agreeing with you. Sorry if I implied otherwise. The top two women are offering real solutions, and the critique is now “they are too detailed.” I do quesiton how they hope to implement their plans, but it’s the same question that could be asked of any of the candidates, not just those with established plans.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:41:07am

re: #422 Dr Lizardo

No need for the nevertheless.

We should be leaning in to the idea that not only was Hitler a manchild and aggressively mediocre, but his rise through fascist ranks was in part because he was able to rhetorically inflame the emotionally-constipated-chimpanzee failson qualities of his followers, many of whom were smarter than he.

I mean, he was an adult man fixated on Karl May westerns and Wagner.


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