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gocart mozart  Jul 29, 2019 • 8:41:44pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:06:17pm

I feel so bad.

A Kossack who supports Marianne Williamson blocked me when I replied that Lord Buckethead should replace that fool on the debate stage.

You got to admit that Lord Buckethead is far more charismatic than Pulpit Pimp Marianne!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:24:56pm

re: #1 gocart mozart

David Walsh
@DavidAstinWalsh
“I’ve known Charles Johnson since he was fifteen, which is totally normal and should be legal.”

It is really astounding how Chuck has managed to get involved with so many public figures. We should certainly accept Alan’s word that he takes Chuck at his word //; bet Alan believes that OJ was innocent and that Epstein is a model citizen being unjustly persecuted///.

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teleskiguy  Jul 29, 2019 • 9:30:54pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:28:18pm

Senator Ted Cruz is going for broke! No, really, he’s worried that megabillionaires and the uber-rich might not be able to afford another Bughatti Veyron or buy that third mega-yacht they’ve had their eye on:

A sitting U.S. president who can’t stop attacking black and brown people. A never-ending trade war that has necessitated more than one multibillion-dollar farm bailout. A humanitarian crisis on the border of his own state. These are just a handful of the many issues that Senator Ted Cruz could be focused on. Instead, he’s currently devoting his efforts to a much more important cause: demanding another tax cut for the rich, this time without Congress’s approval.

In a letter sent to Steve Mnuchin on Monday, the senator from Texas urged the Treasury Secretary to use his “authority” to index capital gains to inflation, a move that would almost exclusively benefit the mega-rich. Claiming, falsely, that the United States economy “has experienced historic levels of growth as a result of Congress and the current administration’s policies such as the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act,” Cruz insists that it is now crucial for the Treasury Department to adjust capital gains for inflation “so that everyday Americans can continue to enjoy better lives and livelihoods.” And by “everyday Americans,” he of course means (but doesn’t say) the spectacularly wealthy.

Missing from Cruz’s call for Mnuchin to use “executive authority” to end this “unfair” treatment of taxpayers, which was signed by 20 of his Republican colleagues, is the fact that, according to the Penn Wharton Budget model, a whopping 86% of the benefit of indexing capital gains to inflation would go to the 1 percent (and reduce annual tax revenue by an estimated $102 billion over a decade). Perhaps seeking to address this criticism, Cruz claimed that changing how capital gains are taxed “would…unlock capital for investment, increase wages, create new jobs, and grow the economy, benefiting Americans across all income levels.” In other words, he’s arguing that the executive branch should give the super-rich another tax cut and it’ll benefit everyone because of trickle-down economics which—checks notes—has never actually worked. Including in the case of the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.

vanityfair.com

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teleskiguy  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:37:29pm

Either he really has broken from his party for real - publicly breaking from his wife loudly and proudly - and is expressing resolution to a profound crisis of conscience, or it’s an amazing grift.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:38:47pm

Trump’s Personal Pastor Claims That She Cast Demons From The White House

Paula White-Cain is one of the many wealthy pastors that fully endorse Trump.

Celebrity pastor Paula White-Cain compared president Trump to a biblical prophet and claimed to have cast off the demons from the White House at a National Day of Prayer event held last week in the country’s capital, according to New York-based outlet Quartz.

So why is Trump still there then?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:43:25pm

Hi.

I’m only here briefly. Y’all are in luck because my typing is handicapped due to me slicing my right index finger open deeply. I was sharpening my scythe to trim weeds at the edge of my yard and sliced the back of my finger on the blade.

What a day. Alex Dershowitz invoking the libertarian argument the age of legal sexual consent should be drastically lowered, followed by a twenty year-old article by him arguing the same, followed by Matt Gaetz using Dersh as a character reference for Chuck C. Johnson as not a holocaust denier (because Dersh claims he knows him)? Then a ton of libertarians piling in on Dersh’s “constitutional” argument to claim the same, that age of consent laws and statutory rape should not be a thing because some twelve year-old girls are “more mature” than thirty year-olds.

He also argues that men should never be busted for soliciting prostitutes but women should always be prosecuted for providing that (how does that work, exactly).

Man if that’s the sort of education Harvard passes out, I’m glad I didn’t go to college.

And the Libertarian Party wonders why it only has about 5% of its membership as women.

To be clear, their platform (I checked today) has nothing about repealing age-of-consent laws. There sure are an awful lot of Libertarians who think that children are just fine though. You’d think their party was a church.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:43:41pm

Another Republican announces he won’t be seeking re-election. That’s the fourth in two weeks.

GOP Rep. Rob Bishop (Utah) on Monday confirmed that he will not seek another term in the House, the Deseret News reported.

Bishop, who serves as the top Republican on the House Natural Resources Committee, was first elected to the lower chamber in 2002.

The Deseret News noted that Bishop said in 2012 that he would not seek reelection once he could no longer serve in a committee leadership position.

He said earlier this month, however, that he was considering another run, the newspaper added.

This is a safe GOP seat, to be fair - it went +26 Republican. But….it’s interesting nonetheless. Like I said a couple of days ago, Republicans are starting to look increasingly nervous about their overall prospects next year. I’d be genuinely interested to see their internal polling.

thehill.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:45:03pm

re: #6 teleskiguy

Either he really has broken from his party for real - publicly breaking from his wife loudly and proudly - and is expressing resolution to a profound crisis of conscience, or it’s an amazing grift.

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My vote: an amazing grift.

Only possible alternative: Kellyanne hates Trump and George is voicing her inner thoughts.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:46:22pm

re: #9 Dr Lizardo

The Deseret News noted that Bishop said in 2012 that he would not seek reelection once he could no longer serve in a committee leadership position.

“If I can’t run the place then I’ll take my ball and go home.”

And I should apply for a job as the CEO of Union Pacific.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:51:14pm

re: #10 Hecuba’s daughter

My vote: an amazing grift.

Only possible alternative: Kellyanne hates Trump and George is voicing her inner thoughts.

Another alternative: They are playing “good cop, bad cop” as kayfabe. No matter which comes out correct (Trump survives the scandals—Kellyanne; Trump goes down for the scandals—George), one can claim they were right and continue grifting from conservative rubes and any liberals who fall for their act.

George Conway benefits greatly from his wife being in the White House, and George Conway has been a Republican operative for decades. He is playing for both conservative voters uneasy with Trump and liberal voters who want to think he’s has some “come to Jesus” moment.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:51:46pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

Hi.

I’m only here briefly. Y’all are in luck because my typing is handicapped due to me slicing my right index finger open deeply. I was sharpening my scythe to trim weeds at the edge of my yard and sliced the back of my finger on the blade.

What a day. Alex Dershowitz invoking the libertarian argument the age of legal sexual consent should be drastically lowered, followed by a twenty year-old article by him arguing the same, followed by Matt Gaetz using Dersh as a character reference for Chuch C. Johnson as not a holocaust denier (because Dersh claims he knows him)? …

Ouch!! That hurts. Get thee to a doctor to sew it up!! Many years ago (over 35) — my late husband sliced his hand washing a knife — and we rushed to the hospital emergency room at 1 in the morning.

We need you here for the overnight shift!

And yes — Dersh does know him — amazing facts but apparently true.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:52:02pm

re: #11 Anymouse 🌹

“If I can’t run the place then I’ll take my ball and go home.”

And I should apply for a job as the CEO of Union Pacific.

Heh.

So far, the Pubbies calling it quits have been from safe GOP districts. However, if we start seeing Republicans from swing districts announcing they’re going to call it a day and not seek re-election, that would suggest (to me at least) that it’s becoming a case of rats fleeing the sinking ship. If that’s the case, we’ll start seeing it this autumn.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:53:22pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

Get to a doctor and have that stitched up.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:53:48pm

re: #14 Dr Lizardo

Heh.

So far, the Pubbies calling it quits have been from safe GOP districts. However, if we start seeing Republicans from swing districts announcing they’re going to call it a day and not seek re-election, that would suggest (to me at least) that it’s becoming a case of rats fleeing the sinking ship. If that’s the case, we’ll start seeing it this autumn.

And they will be replaced by someone even more repellent.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 10:57:59pm

Looking at Morning Consult’s latest aggregation of state polling, Trump is upside-down in more states than he’s leading.

My state is still clocking in at +1, when he took it in 2016 with about +25 in the election.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 11:00:08pm

re: #15 Dr Lizardo

Get to a doctor and have that stitched up.

I saw the VA nurse from Sidney (she lives across the street from me). It was her opinion I didn’t need to go to the hospital for that. She cleaned it up and bound my finger up in a tight bandage.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 29, 2019 • 11:03:09pm

Never, ever set your phone to unlock with biometrics only.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 11:04:37pm

re: #13 Hecuba’s daughter

Ouch!! That hurts. Get thee to a doctor to sew it up!! Many years ago (over 35) — my late husband sliced his hand washing a knife — and we rushed to the hospital emergency room at 1 in the morning.

We need you here for the overnight shift!

And yes — Dersh does know him — amazing facts but apparently true.

It actually doesn’t hurt very much (I keep my scythe and two sickles very sharp).

There was enough blood to film a horror movie though.

The VA nurse wasn’t particularly appreciative of me going to her house for medical treatment, but the alternative is a sixteen mile drive to the county hospital.

We’re on friendly terms since we’re neighbours and every scheduled clinic appointment I see her anyway.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 11:07:06pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

Never, ever set your phone to unlock with biometrics only.

Alternative: Use a flip phone with no such features.

I don’t know the particular issues of this case, but it sounds like he has a suit for mistreatment and a violation of his IV and V amendment rights. (I am not a lawyer; do not use me for advice.)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 11:10:34pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

Never, ever set your phone to unlock with biometrics only.

And the bulkshitters weigh in:

Who again opened trade with China? Nixon (R). Whose daughter is securing trademarks in China? Trump’s (R).

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 11:10:42pm

re: #21 Anymouse 🌹

Alternative: Use a flip phone with no such features.

I don’t know the particular issues of this case, but it sounds like he has a suit for mistreatment and a violation of his IV and V amendment rights. (I am not a lawyer; do not use me for advice.)

I would love to get my hands on an old flip-phone. Say, if anyone out there has one they’re not using anymore, let me know! I’ll take it off your hands!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 11:12:11pm

re: #23 Dr Lizardo

I would love to get my hands on an old flip-phone. Say, if anyone out there has one they’re not using anymore, let me know! I’ll take it off your hands!

I have a new flip phone (about a year old). Tracfone sells them. (I can only use my phone on trips, however, which is fine for my needs.)

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Jul 29, 2019 • 11:12:25pm

re: #21 Anymouse 🌹

Alternative: Use a flip phone with no such features.

I don’t know the particular issues of this case, but it sounds like he has a suit for mistreatment and a violation of his IV and V amendment rights. (I am not a lawyer; do not use me for advice.)

Hong Kong. No constitutional rights.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 11:16:18pm

re: #25 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Hong Kong. No constitutional rights.

Thanks. In theory they have the agreement with the United Kingdom, but China is working to undermine that and the UK is in no position to enforce it.

Both Hong Kong and Macao are extremely wealthy cities, and the “one country, two systems” scheme was supposed to both quell fears of Communist crackdowns in those enclaves without killing the golden goose of money.

It would seem that China may not be as forward-looking as they are credited with; such crackdowns against their legal and democratic systems will make wealthy industrialists and such skittish to invest in those cities.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 11:17:27pm

re: #24 Anymouse 🌹

I have a new flip phone (about a year old). Tracfone sells them. (I can only use my phone on trips, however, which is fine for my needs.)

We don’t have Tracfone over here, sad to say.

I’ve been looking for them, but the only ones I’ve ever found are online - and they’re mostly being sold for spare parts. The ones that are fully functional sell for as much as a new smartphone.

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sagehen  Jul 29, 2019 • 11:23:03pm

re: #21 Anymouse 🌹

Alternative: Use a flip phone with no such features.

I don’t know the particular issues of this case, but it sounds like he has a suit for mistreatment and a violation of his IV and V amendment rights. (I am not a lawyer; do not use me for advice.)

It’s Hong Kong; there’s no IV or V Amendment.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 11:27:16pm

re: #27 Dr Lizardo

We don’t have Tracfone over here, sad to say.

I’ve been looking for them, but the only ones I’ve ever found are online - and they’re mostly being sold for spare parts. The ones that are fully functional sell for as much as a new smartphone.

Wow.

Mine is entirely plastic (except the screen). It is about as cheap as you could make a cell phone.

Wildly off-topic local story:

So my wife and I went into the butcher shop in the county seat and spent about $100 on various cuts of meats.

The butcher told a story of a woman who’d just been in his shop asking if he would cut (for free) some large-size hunk of beef she’d bought at Wal*Mart in Sidney.

“No.”

“But you’re a butcher!”

“And I cut my own meat. If you wanted it cut, you should have had it done at Wal*Mart.”

“But they don’t have butchers!”

“Exactly. Perhaps you should have thought of that instead of making an eighty-mile round trip then expecting me to do something for free for you.”

He said she left in a huff saying she would never shop in his store again, which he laughed at since she’d never shopped in his store.

My wife suggested he missed an opportunity; he could have said something like “Okay, how do you want it cut? $5 a slice.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 11:34:34pm

A hopeful sign: Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith get the “kiss of death” generic endorsement from Donald Trump

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 29, 2019 • 11:37:01pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

Hi.

Then a ton of libertarians piling in on Dersh’s “constitutional” argument to claim the same, that age of consent laws and statutory rape should not be a thing because some twelve year-old girls are “more mature” than thirty year-olds.

Reminds me of another Constitutional discussion we should have: That rounding up Libertarians and sending them to FEMA camp should not be a thing because some Libertarians are less depraved than others. Analyze and discuss.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 11:43:18pm

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Reminds me of another Constitutional discussion we should have: That rounding up Libertarians and sending them to FEMA camp should not be a thing because some Libertarians are less depraved than others. Analyze and discuss.

LOL.

I can vouch for my wife because she left the LP and became a Democrat. There’s a grandfather clause on this, correct? /s

Mr. Wright still dealing with douchecanoes. I get why he drinks. Replying to Stonekettle:

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 11:45:46pm

I don’t think he has that authority, and I don’t think there’s a Republican senator who cares about how legislation and law works.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 11:50:40pm

Time to call my Senator Ben Sasse so he can blow me off because I’m not a Republican.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 29, 2019 • 11:52:27pm

re: #33 Anymouse 🌹

Ted Cruz seems to be the ringleader in this effort. It all serves to increase my suspicion that the GOP sees the writing on the wall that they’re going to lose the White House and quite possibly the Senate as well, so they have to hurry up and get this now - while the getting is good.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 29, 2019 • 11:56:41pm

Christians still lying about us.

You know, I check about every other day to see if any church organisation has condemned the New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist association, and I am not surprised none do.

This is not much different than the letter in the newspaper I responded to that claimed “atheists are the cause of all mass-shootings” which ended my political career.
(6:08)

Atheists Hate Prayer But Love Child Rapists In Schools and Libraries

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:24:19am

Atheists are a good canvas for these people to project all their hatred.

And recall, they believe that God created only two genders, therefore, homosexuality is an abdomination and they can only recruit from the ranks of heteros by seducing and corrupting innocent children.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:19:22am

This is an interesting bit of news:

The Library of Congress made public a rare 2,000-year-old text of early Buddhism on Monday, and it offers a glimpse into early Buddhist history during its formative years.

The scroll originated in Gandhara, an ancient Buddhist region in northern Afghanistan and Pakistan. Only a few hundred Gandharan manuscripts are known to scholars worldwide, and each is vital to understanding the early development of Buddhist literature. For instance, using linguistic analysis, scholars study these manuscripts to chart the spread of Buddhism throughout Asia.

The Gandhara text is narrated by Shakyamuni Buddha, the religious leader also known as Siddhartha Gautama, and tells the story of the 13 Buddhas who preceded him, his own emergence and the prediction of a future Buddha. Information on how long each Buddha lived, the social class they were born into and how long their teachings endured are all chronicled in the text.

“This is a unique item because it is very old compared to similar manuscripts and, as such, it does bring us, historically speaking, relatively close to the lifetime of the Buddha,” Jonathan Loar, reference librarian in the Asian Division at the Library of Congress, said in a statement.

The library’s scroll retains nearly 80% of the original text, with only the beginning and end missing. Most other Gandharan scrolls known to scholars are more fragmentary.

edition.cnn.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:40:03am

re: #39 Dr Lizardo

This is an interesting bit of pagan infidel spawn of Satan news:

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:41:15am

Another example of the enduring legacy of H.P. Lovecraft in popular culture:

Moons of Madness - Reveal Trailer | PS4

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:44:05am

Hmm…..looks like freshly-minted British PM Boris Johnson is Force sensitive.

gfycat.com

Jedi? Sith? The jury’s still out.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:53:01am

Regarding the Kyoto Animation studio fire a little while back, looks like they were able to save the data on their server.

(Via Google Translate):

On the 29th, Kyoto Animation revealed that it was able to collect data from a server that escaped fire in the first studio where there was an arson murder case. It was said that it contained digitized original images.

The server was on the ground floor of a completely burned three-story studio. It seems that they were not damaged by being in a room covered with concrete on all sides and were not affected by water from fire fighting.

For this reason, the company pulled out data when working with the cooperation of experts. The company’s agent, Dr. Daisuke Shibata, said, “The data recorded on the server has been recovered without loss. We sincerely thank the dedicated professionals for their dedication.” .

Original Japanese source: asahi.com

I know there’s films out there that have been lost forever, either through accidents or neglect. Quite recently, there was some news that a veritable treasure trove of master recordings from artists such as Sheryl Crow, Ray Charles, Nirvana, Aretha Franklin and others were completely destroyed in a 2008 fire in an archive in Los Angeles.

bbc.com

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:55:34am

re: #43 Dr Lizardo

BTW, one of the tragedies of that fire (noted in the BBC article) is that the master recordings of Buddy Holly and Duke Ellington were completely destroyed.

Lost forever.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:03:21am
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Dread Pirate  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:07:51am

It was 25 years ago. Sounds like he paid his debt.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:06:38am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:32:53am

re: #47 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

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There’s the “Alpha Male” that Trumpers talk so much about.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:41:52am

re: #48 HappyWarrior

There’s the “Alpha Male” that Trumpers talk so much about.

Alpha Male Menopause

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:55:39am

re: #45 Dread Pirate

Trump pardons Kentucky man who stole 20 firearms from people’s checked baggage at airport, says the man has ‘exceptional character’

He is just going to start pardoning people left and right so that nobody notices when he pardons Epstein…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:09:11am

In Brexit-related news:

The pound has plummeted to a two and a half year low, as senior members of Boris Johnson’s cabinet signal that Britain is heading for a no-deal Brexit in October.

Johnson’s de facto deputy Michael Gove will chair an emergency meeting of senior Cabinet ministers on Tuesday afternoon, to co-ordinate UK preparations for leaving the EU without a deal.

The meeting comes after Gove suggested on Sunday that the UK is operating “on the assumption” that Britain is heading for a no-deal exit, while the Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said that the “balance has shifted” towards leaving without an agreement.

Johnson’s spokeswomen said on Monday that he would not even meet with EU leaders to discuss a deal until they ditched their longstanding negotiating red lines.

businessinsider.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:14:29am

re: #51 Dr Lizardo

In Brexit-related news:

businessinsider.com

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I would hope that Trump and Johnson both put an end to the myth that right wingers manage the economy better.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:15:58am

re: #51 Dr Lizardo

In Brexit-related news:

The pound has plummeted to a two and a half year low, as senior members of Boris Johnson’s cabinet signal that Britain is heading for a no-deal Brexit in October.

Just wait until it reaches €1.05, fix the rate and rename it the “Euroguinea”

Remember the Guinea? It was the equivalent of 21 shillings, or one pound and five pence in modern currency.

Would make as much sense as anything else they have been doing late

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:19:41am

re: #52 HappyWarrior

I would hope that Trump and Johnson both put an end to the myth that right wingers manage the economy better.

Hopefully.

I figure we’re seeing the Pound drop because the markets have been, until the last couple of days, applying the rational actor model to the UK, thinking that eventually, common sense will prevail. Now, it’s really looking like the shit is about to hit to fan and we’re starting to see things moving in the currency markets.

After three years of watching the UK trying to play chicken with a freight train and still not figuring it out, some businesses are starting to conclude that this “Brexit silliness” is, in fact, a case of full blown insanity. The Pound will continue to drop as the probability of a no-deal Brexit crashout increases, maybe even going to below the Dollar and the Euro when it becomes an absolute certainty.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:23:28am

re: #54 Dr Lizardo

Hopefully.

I figure we’re seeing the Pound drop because the markets have been, until the last couple of days, applying the rational actor model to the UK, thinking that eventually, common sense will prevail. Now, it’s really looking like the shit is about to hit to fan and we’re starting to see things moving in the currency markets.

After three years of watching the UK trying to play chicken with a freight train and still not figuring it out, some businesses are starting to conclude that this “Brexit silliness” is, in fact, a case of full blown insanity. The Pound will continue to drop as the probability of a no-deal Brexit crashout increases, maybe even going to below the Dollar and the Euro when it becomes an absolute certainty.

Yeah I think so too. Nationalism is going to really hurt us all in the long run.

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jeffreyw  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:00:15am

Out of the Many, This One is Mine!

Good morning!

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:03:13am

re: #28 sagehen

It’s Hong Kong; there’s no IV or V Amendment.

But they have Article 2! It’s wonderful, it’s a beautiful thing. //

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:04:45am

re: #55 HappyWarrior

Yeah I think so too. Nationalism is going to really hurt us all in the long run.

Steve Bannon was right about one thing; the current wave of economic nationalism we’re seeing is a reaction to globalization. The chief problem is that the innumerable gains that globalism have wrought have not been adequately distributed - the vast majority of the gains have gone almost entirely to the top of the pyramid, while screwing everyone else.

Until this is addressed - and that’s no easy task because the folks at the top of the pyramid will start screaming OMG YOU’RE TALKING GODLESS BOLSHEVISM!!” - nothing is going to improve overall. If anything, it’s likely to get worse as that economic nationalism quickly becomes ethno-nationalism (we’re seeing that already) and from there, to an outright democidal/genocidal governing philosophy as that becomes acceptable as a “final solution” to economic inequality.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:07:20am

re: #58 Dr Lizardo

…If anything, it’s likely to get worse as that economic nationalism quickly becomes ethno-nationalism (we’re seeing that already) and from there, to an outright democidal/genocidal governing philosophy as that becomes acceptable as a “final solution” to economic inequality.

as far as I can recall, a lot of these guys were already racists before the economic anxiety set in…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:09:22am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

as far as I can recall, a lot of these guys were already racists before the economic anxiety set in…

Bannon chief among them. Globalization is a good thing overall but we need to have a society that values labor while not ignoring marginalized social groups. That’s something that Sanders gets very wrong.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:17:07am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

as far as I can recall, a lot of these guys were already racists before the economic anxiety set in…

True, but economic anxiety gives them a convenient, and more socially acceptable, rationalization for their racism.

The racism’s always been there - just like how anti-Semitism was deeply ingrained in German culture prior to the advent of the NSDAP. Hitler capitalized on that cultural defect, dressed it up in some fancy economic duds (“The Jews own everything! They’re the reason you’re unemployed and your children go hungry!”) and the rest is history.

The bulk of the Nazi rank and file were middle-class and lower middle-class Germans, and some working class and a smattering of the truly wealthy, with the middle class/lower middle-class terrified of being pushed back into the amorphous mass of the lumpenproletariat and seeing all their economic gains erased. They flocked to the hakenkreuz in droves. And of course, the Nazis had a racial answer to their economic fears - an answer long prevalent in German history and culture.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:18:34am

re: #51 Dr Lizardo

So, I’m going to London this fall…do I buy some pound sterling today?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:20:03am

re: #62 Mike Lamb

So, I’m going to London this fall…do I buy some pound sterling today?

I suspect that the pound will languish unless they come with some promising Brexit deal, and failing that, it will totally collapse

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:20:05am

re: #62 Mike Lamb

So, I’m going to London this fall…do I buy some pound sterling today?

LOL, I’m no ForEx expert. It might well get lower to the USD, thus proving cheaper to buy in the near future.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:37:39am

Regarding the Brexit situation:

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:42:08am

When you read this, please bear in mind these are airport exchange rates:

The pound has sunk well below €1 at Britain’s biggest airports - while the dollar is at parity.

At the ICE desk at Heathrow airport on Tuesday morning, The Independent was quoted £117 for buying €100 - making each pound worth just 85 euro cents.

At Gatwick airport on Monday night, the rate was £1 = €0.90. With commission added to a €100 transaction, the cost in sterling was £116.

The interbank rate at 7am sank below £1 = €1.09, as the downward pressure on the pound continued.

Ouch.

independent.co.uk (note: autoplay video embedded)

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:45:57am

granted, we all look for some kind of confirmation of our thoughts in the news

this AM’s electoral-vote.com

while part of larger story of why trump feels threatened this week
this paragraph relates directly to the impeachment process

Worst of all for the president is that Mueller’s low-key appearance before the House Judiciary and Intelligence Committees appears to have done very little to slow the impeachment train. In fact, it looks like the train has sped up. Not only is House Judiciary Chair Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) moving forward with his impeachment investigation, but more than a dozen Democratic House members came out for impeachment this weekend. The total number of Democratic representatives who support impeachment proceedings is now 107, which is close to half of the Democratic caucus. So, momentum continues to move in a direction not favorable for Trump. Further, roughly 80% of Democratic voters want impeachment, so the political winds are likely to cause that 107 to grow.

…let nature take her course

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:05:01am

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹

Looking at Morning Consult’s latest aggregation of state polling, Trump is upside-down in more states than he’s leading.

My state is still clocking in at +1, when he took it in 2016 with about +25 in the election.

These are the kinds of polling aggregates that we need to focus on. National polls may indicate overall sentiment, but if enough states fall back to Trump, he wins reelection. It’s a numbers game. First to 270 wins. It has to be more than denying Trump 270. It means decimating Trump and the GOP nationwide in state and local races too. Taking back the Senate is paramount. If Trump is doing badly, he’ll be less able to boost the statewide Senate races, or key Congressional races.

Whoever is the Democratic nominee will have to go gangbusters to help downticket races. The nation is at stake.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:09:05am

re: #66 Dr Lizardo

Boris is off to a flying start. Brexit will be awful for the UK. A no-deal Brexit will be even worse. It’s that uncertainty that is killing the pound versus the other currencies.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:09:13am
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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:10:13am

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:12:17am

re: #70 lawhawk

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Kilmeade is nothing but a racist asshole.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:12:38am

re: #71 Belafon

And Trump’s clothing line was made in China rather than in the US. Trump put his profits above American workers.

He did that for decades. When building his skyscrapers in NYC, he avoided union work wherever possible, and used Chinese steel instead of building with concrete to save on his costs.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:14:05am

re: #65 Dr Lizardo

A Brexit caused economic emergency is exactly what American Bannon types want in the first place. The UKP collapse currently underway directly leads to price inflation meaning a strain on personal spending which induces a vicious economic cycle of debt and lower purchasing power. The goal of course is to cause enough damage in order to unwind the generous socialist public benefits and especially the NHS.

The NHS, founded in part by W. Churchill, is a source of broad support and pride for the British and a constant thorn in the side of American Libertarians and plutocrats. The demise of the NHS is the goal and ultimate replacement by a corporate plutocratic ration system as modeled in the US.

Manufacturing will move back to the UK but not nearly enough to make up for the broad economic decline most British are likely to experience in their lifestyle. The rich will get richer. The poor even more so. Technology means some of the disparity will not be as apparent as in the US. After all, you can afford a cell phone… that means you’re rich, right?

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sagehen  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:14:30am

re: #62 Mike Lamb

So, I’m going to London this fall…do I buy some pound sterling today?

When I was a teenager, Americans traveling to the USSR were advised to bring as many pairs of blue jeans as would fit in their luggage. There’s probably rules about how much insulin or other medications you can take, but… look around for what imports they’ll be short on and bring a suitcase-full. That’ll be better than money.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:16:09am

re: #6 teleskiguy

Is he talking about his wife or Trump?

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lizardofid  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:18:43am

re: #73 lawhawk

And Trump’s clothing line was made in China rather than in the US. Trump put his profits above American workers.

He did that for decades. When building his skyscrapers in NYC, he avoided union work wherever possible, and used Chinese steel instead of building with concrete to save on his costs.

Including his “magnum opus”

nytimes.com

Oh, and good morning!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:24:31am

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹

Time to call my Senator Ben Sasse so he can blow me off because I’m not a Republican.

I don’t waste my time calling McConnell. Paul, in rare instances, I will call.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:27:30am
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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:28:09am

If only 38% of whites vote for him, Trump will be crushed.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:30:17am

re: #80 Belafon

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If only 38% of whites vote for him, Trump will be crushed.

That’s why I’m glass half full. I don’t take beating him as a given but I refuse to be afraid.

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:30:17am

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:31:37am

re: #77 lizardofid

Including his “magnum opus”

nytimes.com

Oh, and good morning!

Heh, that just spurred a bit of creative writing.

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b.d.  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:32:01am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:33:45am

re: #61 Dr Lizardo

True, but economic anxiety gives them a convenient, and more socially acceptable, rationalization for their racism.

The racism’s always been there - just like how anti-Semitism was deeply ingrained in German culture prior to the advent of the NSDAP. Hitler capitalized on that cultural defect, dressed it up in some fancy economic duds (“The Jews own everything! They’re the reason you’re unemployed and your children go hungry!”) and the rest is history.

The bulk of the Nazi rank and file were middle-class and lower middle-class Germans, and some working class and a smattering of the truly wealthy, with the middle class/lower middle-class terrified of being pushed back into the amorphous mass of the lumpenproletariat and seeing all their economic gains erased. They flocked to the hakenkreuz in droves. And of course, the Nazis had a racial answer to their economic fears - an answer long prevalent in German history and culture.

Yep. A lot of the guys with economic anxiety up here drive Ford F150s that tow fishing boats in summer and snowmobile sleds in winter. But the lumberjack beards make it all authentic.

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:34:32am

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

” I was sharpening my scythe”

A phrase we don’t hear near enough

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:36:57am

...

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:37:58am

re: #84 b.d.

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Okay Jim Goebells.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:38:50am

Knowing that Trump and his immediate family members are very likely to be brought up on criminal charges upon losing the election I am starting to get concerned about judicial shenanigans caused by all of the Trump judge lackeys Republicans have been foisting on the country.

Trump actually refusing to leave the White House seems far fetched even for this abysmal President, but relying on ideological poisonous toadies installed into the Justice system itself seems a more likely means to ensure limited repercussions for the most corrupt and least ethical administration to ever infest the Executive branch.

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:38:55am

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹

Isnt “two sickles” a bi-sickle?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:40:25am

re: #80 Belafon

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If only 38% of whites vote for him, Trump will be crushed.

That is his floor, not his ceiling. Once the Democrats have an actual nominee for rightwing media to attack, GOPers and GOP leaners will find reasons to vote for Trump. I expect he’ll get about 45-46% of the vote. Which won’t be enough if the Democratic nominee gets 50%.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:42:03am

re: #67 DangerMan

…let nature take her course

If this is nature taking its course, then Nancy Pelosi is Mother Nature.

She wants to make this look like the people and the party forced her into this…

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:42:38am

re: #84 b.d.

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Not a real quote; its a parody.

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sagehen  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:42:53am

re: #80 Belafon

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49% of whites will definitely not vote for Trump compared to 38% who definitely will, but please keep telling us his racism is an election winner pundits.

Y’all familiar with “the Bradley effect”?

People tell pollsters the answer they’d want their neighbors/co-workers/clients to believe, but then in the privacy of the voting booth…

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:44:29am

re: #92 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nancy Pelosi is of a certain school of thought in oversight and desired legislation. Nothing goes up for a vote until it’s a known win. Unless there is political gain in a possible loss. “We tried, will reintroduce next session…” Which is a horrible idea on impeachment

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:45:17am

re: #84 b.d.

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Dan Lyons is a parody account. Poe’s Law strikes again!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:47:13am

re: #89 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Knowing that Trump and his immediate family members are very likely to be brought up on criminal charges upon losing the election I am starting to get concerned about judicial shenanigans caused by all of the Trump judge lackeys Republicans have been foisting on the country.

Trump actually refusing to leave the White House seems far fetched even for this abysmal President, but relying on ideological poisonous toadies installed into the Justice system itself seems a more likely means to ensure limited repercussions for the most corrupt and least ethical administration to ever infest the Executive branch.

It doesn’t seem far-fetched at all to me. I have little doubt that Trump will insist there was massive voter fraud and refuse to leave office, sparking our greatest political crisis since the Civil War. We need to be prepared to go on strike and march on Washington by the millions. The good people of Puerto Rico just showed us what to do.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:47:29am

re: #93 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Not a real quote; its a parody.

Phew.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:48:14am

re: #96 The Pie Overlord!

Dan Lyons is a parody account. Poe’s Law strikes again!

KAC is insisting that Trump was heavily involved in the aftermath which as our own LH pointed out was bullshit.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:49:37am

re: #99 HappyWarrior

KAC is insisting that Trump was heavily involved in the aftermath which as our own LH pointed out was bullshit.

What is KAC?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:50:59am

re: #100 NO SMOCKING GUN!

What is KAC?

“What” is the right question

Kelly Ann Conway

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:51:14am

Simi council woman recites legal rights for immigrants, calls the concentration camps as such, and is now dealing with death threats.

losangeles.cbslocal.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:51:53am

re: #100 NO SMOCKING GUN!

What is KAC?

Conway.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:54:05am

re: #84 b.d.

It kind of looks like the tweeter is parodying the GOP. The next tweet has FOX finding a video of Trump running in to help, which we know is false.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:54:16am

re: #84 b.d.

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And I’m sure the video of this is kept in the same place as the “Whitey” tape and the taped celebratory dancing by Muslims in Jersey.

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sagehen  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:55:59am

re: #102 Rightwingconspirator

Simi council woman recites legal rights for immigrants, calls the concentration camps as such, and is now dealing with death threats.

losangeles.cbslocal.com

If Simi Valley is split 50-50 on the question…

That’s a super-conservative jurisdiction. That’s where the Reagan Library is located. That’s where jurors acquitted the cops who beat Rodney King.

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b.d.  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:56:32am

re: #93 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Not a real quote; its a parody.

lol, lots of folks, like me, bit

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:56:41am

re: #92 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If this is nature taking its course, then Nancy Pelosi is Mother Nature.

She wants to make this look like the people and the party forced her into this…

As opposed to the McConnell Gambit:. This chamber will do what *i* want

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:57:31am

re: #93 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Not a real quote; its a parody.

Well frak, fooled again!

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:57:32am

JFC

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:58:10am

re: #106 sagehen

If Simi Valley is split 50-50 on the question…

That’s a super-conservative jurisdiction. That’s where the Reagan Library is located. That’s where jurors acquitted the cops who beat Rodney King.

It’s a hotbed of the KKK as well. Jewish friends moved there, continually harassed, house spray painted, car was keyed. They moved after 2 months of White Trash Hell.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:58:29am

Everything he says is projection. EVERY. DAMN. THING.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:58:45am

re: #110 The Pie Overlord!

JFC BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *GASP* HAHAHAHAHA

FTFY

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:59:50am

re: #112 The Pie Overlord!

Everything he says is projection. EVERY. DAMN. THING.

“Afterican Americans, they love living in hell.”

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:59:52am

re: #112 The Pie Overlord!

Everything he says is projection. EVERY. DAMN. THING.

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Yes, I’m sure he’s received all sorts of communiques of support from folks in Baltimore, none of whom he can name because they’re just so overcome with support for him that they forgot to tell him their names.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:59:54am

re: #106 sagehen

If Simi Valley is split 50-50 on the question…

That’s a super-conservative jurisdiction. That’s where the Reagan Library is located. That’s where jurors acquitted the cops who beat Rodney King.

Funny how the 1st and 14th Amendments are so unsupported by Republicans

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:00:23am

re: #110 The Pie Overlord!

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:01:14am

re: #115 Targetpractice

Yes, I’m sure he’s received all sorts of communiques of support from folks in Baltimore, none of whom he can name because they’re just so overcome with support for him that they forgot to tell him their names.

Big strong tough men, tears streaming down their faces, stammering “Sir sir sir sir”

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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:02:57am

re: #118 The Pie Overlord!

Big strong tough men, tears streaming down their faces, stammering “Sir sir sir sir”

Sounds like a gladiator movie.

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:04:26am

So much effing winning

Politico: “Central bank officials are expected to cut interest rates for the first time since the global financial crisis * not* because Trump demanded it. Instead, they will move in part because the president’s bruising trade policy has helped fuel a global manufacturing slowdown and injected deep uncertainty into executive suites around the world.”

“Fed Chairman Jerome Powell won’t directly say it directly after his meetings Tuesday and Wednesday. But the central bank will reverse course at least in part to save the Trump economy from Trump

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:05:51am

re: #120 DangerMan

So much effing winning

Which he’s already spinning, declaring that it’s not the sign of a loss but the Feds admitting he was right.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:06:09am

re: #107 b.d.

lol, lots of folks, like me, bit

GOPers lie so brazenly there is no quote too bizarre for a GOPer to have actually said.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:07:19am

re: #122 NO SMOCKING GUN!

GOPers lie so brazenly there is no quote too bizarre for a GOPer to have actually said.

And it was Gym Jordan he was “quoting.”

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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:08:27am

re: #122 NO SMOCKING GUN!

GOPers lie so brazenly there is no quote too bizarre for a GOPer to have actually said.

Scary part is that Jordan might be absolutely convinced he saw that. The weaker-minded GOPs have subscribed to some sort of contagious delusion.

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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:09:01am

re: #84 b.d.

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That cannot be a real quote. Even with Jordan being as rock-stupid as he is, he can’t be that stupid.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:10:04am

re: #125 makeitstop

That cannot be a real quote. Even with Jordan being as rock-stupid as he is, he can’t be that stupid.

But he’s sure his constituents are.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:10:53am

re: #125 makeitstop

That cannot be a real quote. Even with Jordan being as rock-stupid as he is, he can’t be that stupid.

Don’t forget what Bohner said about Gym being the dumbest CENSORED he ever dealt with.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:11:33am

re: #124 Decatur Deb

Scary part is that Jordan might be absolutely convinced he saw that. The weaker-minded GOPs have subscribed to some sort of contagious delusion.

They will tell you there are five lights.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:12:31am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:13:39am

Daily fucking occurrences

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:14:05am

Because every African-American in Baltimore has Trump’s personal number on speed dial.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:14:20am

African Americans appreciate Trump so much they gave Cummings 77% of the vote last time.//

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:14:39am

re: #131 The Pie Overlord!

Because every African-American in Baltimore has Trump’s personal number on speed dial.

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Carson.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:14:54am

re: #131 The Pie Overlord!

Because every African-American in Baltimore has Trump’s personal number on speed dial.

Trump’s receiving calls from 2014.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:16:04am

re: #129 The Pie Overlord!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:16:15am

re: #131 The Pie Overlord!

Because every African-American in Baltimore has Trump’s personal number on speed dial.

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Diamond, Silk, Alveda King, KKKandy, KKKarson.

Those are the 5 asskissers that called him.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:17:21am

re: #131 The Pie Overlord!

Because every African-American in Baltimore has Trump’s personal number on speed dial.

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And Donny, in his infinite wisdom and boundless generosity…is doing nothing more than thanking them for agreeing with him that the city they willingly live in is a blighted, godforsaken hellhole that Elijah Cummings is totally responsible for.

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b.d.  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:18:46am
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sagehen  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:20:26am

One of Seth’s writers is Puerto Rican; she has thoughts.

Late Night’s Jenny Hagel on the Political Protests in Puerto Rico

DO YOU HAVE A POT?? BANG IT!!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:21:21am

re: #80 Belafon

Don’t believe any of the polls ever. The only one that matters is the actual election.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:24:25am

re: #86 DangerMan

” I was sharpening my scythe”

A phrase we don’t hear near enough

LOL

The Grim Reaper lives in Nebraska, wears a trilby, and drives a Smart.
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:24:38am

A24 has turned horror flicks into art-house flicks.

Cool.

The Lighthouse | Official Trailer HD | A24

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:28:02am

re: #140 GlutenFreeJesus

Don’t believe any of the polls ever. The only one that matters is the actual election.

Or, to be more mathematical: Remember there’s always error.

It’s not that you can’t accept the validity of polls done right, it’s that
1. They can’t be considered alone. A single poll could be completely wrong. But the more polls saying the same thing can tell you information.
2. A national poll doesn’t indicate the winner with our Electoral College.

But Trump isn’t getting 0% in the large states and all of them in the smaller states. HIs racism is having an effect. Harris as either the presidential or VP nominee would keep Trump frothing at the mouth thinking he’s going to win with his racism.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:28:43am

re: #141 Anymouse 🌹

My dad, about 5 years ago, slicked the pad off his thumb off with his band saw.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:30:24am

re: #142 Dr Lizardo

Forgot to add - that was filmed entirely on 35mm black and white film stock with lenses from the 1930s. Same director as The Witch, too. One film critic wrote that it was “A psychological nightmare that gnaws at the brain long after the disturbing final image assaults the retina” while another wrote “It has the feel of a newly discovered artefact from FW Murnau (Nosferatu).”

rottentomatoes.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:32:20am

re: #138 b.d.

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It really does. I really hope it’s not Trump and Bernie or Biden. These guys have had their time at bat.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:33:28am

re: #125 makeitstop

That cannot be a real quote. Even with Jordan being as rock-stupid as he is, he can’t be that stupid.

It isn’t real.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:36:35am

re: #79 Belafon

Our Worst Presidents Came In With A Lot Of Experience (Goes to FiveThirtyEight)

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:36:40am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:37:15am

re: #143 Belafon

Or, to be more mathematical: Remember there’s always error.

It’s not that you can’t accept the validity of polls done right, it’s that
1. They can’t be considered alone. A single poll could be completely wrong. But the more polls saying the same thing can tell you information.
2. A national poll doesn’t indicate the winner with our Electoral College.

But Trump isn’t getting 0% in the large states and all of them in the smaller states. HIs racism is having an effect. Harris as either the presidential or VP nominee would keep Trump frothing at the mouth thinking he’s going to win with his racism.

Here is an article which, instead of talking to old white men in a diner for a change, they interviewed women in shopping centers, and they don’t like Trump’s rhetoric. apnews.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:38:29am

re: #150 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Here is an article which, instead of talking to old white men in a diner for a change, they interviewed women in shopping centers, and they don’t like Trump’s rhetoric. apnews.com

If he loses white women, he’s finished.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:39:27am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

It really does. I really hope it’s not Trump and Bernie or Biden. These guys have had their time at bat.

But even if it is, either one would be massively better than Trump, and we must vote for the Democratic nominee, especially all swing state voters.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:40:34am

In today’s edition of “Rich People Suck” (TM):

Dozens of wealthy families in Illinois have reportedly been using a controversial tactic to help their children pay for college: They give up legal guardianship so the teenagers can claim dramatically lower incomes and earn need-based financial aid, according to reports from two news organizations published Monday.

ProPublica and The Wall Street Journal each detailed the efforts in separate articles after uncovering dozens of applications filed by Chicago-area parents to financially divorce themselves from their kids over the past year and a half.

As part of the strategy, wealthy parents allegedly file paperwork to transfer legal custody of their kids to other relatives, friends or even co-workers. When the transfers are complete — often during their junior or senior years of high school — students are then able to declare themselves financially independent on college applications. In one instance detailed by the Journal, a student whose parents owned a $1.2 million home only had to declare $4,200 in income from a summer job.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:40:53am

re: #152 NO SMOCKING GUN!

But even if it is, either one would be massively better than Trump, and we must vote for the Democratic nominee, especially all swing state voters.

Of course. I’m there. I’m not going to pull a Naderite or Steinshill.

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:41:02am

re: #131 The Pie Overlord!

Because every African-American in Baltimore has Trump’s personal number on speed dial.

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those quotes (at least) dont mention baltimore
i suppose context helps, i dont watch his video clips

but he could be talking about any rando AA’s from anywhere

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:41:20am

re: #151 HappyWarrior

If he loses white women, he’s finished.

Yep - he can’t afford to lose anyone at this point, especially not white women. If they turn against him, whether they vote for his Democratic opponent or simply sit out the election, he’s done. He going to need every last vote he can get.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:41:30am

So, the GOP screwed anyone living in states that fought Medicaid expansion. You are absolutely and indisputably worse off. There are receipts.

75% of the rural hospitals that have closed nationwide have been in states that didn’t expand Medicaid. They are primarily in the South, where they already have the worst health outcomes in the nation. People living in rural areas already have less access to health care when needed, but closing hospitals means that they have to go even further in an emergency. That means even worse outcomes.

The GOP health care plan is #GOPDontCare. It is literally killing their constituents, not that they seem to notice or care, because they keep voting GOP.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:41:55am

re: #152 NO SMOCKING GUN!

But even if it is, either one would be massively better than Trump, and we must vote for the Democratic nominee, especially all swing state voters.

Agree. I just think we’ll do better with a bold choice rather than a safe one, especially, as people have noted under other circumstances, we need to inspire some people to come out to vote.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:42:15am

re: #153 Eclectic Cyborg

In today’s edition of “Rich People Suck” (TM):

Dozens of wealthy families in Illinois have reportedly been using a controversial tactic to help their children pay for college: They give up legal guardianship so the teenagers can claim dramatically lower incomes and earn need-based financial aid, according to reports from two news organizations published Monday.

ProPublica and The Wall Street Journal each detailed the efforts in separate articles after uncovering dozens of applications filed by Chicago-area parents to financially divorce themselves from their kids over the past year and a half.

As part of the strategy, wealthy parents allegedly file paperwork to transfer legal custody of their kids to other relatives, friends or even co-workers. When the transfers are complete — often during their junior or senior years of high school — students are then able to declare themselves financially independent on college applications. In one instance detailed by the Journal, a student whose parents owned a $1.2 million home only had to declare $4,200 in income from a summer job.

That’s so infuriating. We need a system that allows for upward advancement not rewards the already established.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:43:16am

re: #158 Belafon

Agree. I just think we’ll do better with a bold choice rather than a safe one, especially, as people have noted under other circumstances, we need to inspire some people to come out to vote.

We do a bold choice. We prevent someone like Rubio coming in 2024 praying on voter amnesia.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:46:08am

re: #160 HappyWarrior

We do a bold choice. We prevent someone like Rubio coming in 2024 praying on voter amnesia.

If Trump does indeed crash and burn next year, I’m pretty confident that the GOP’s 2024 election strategy is almost certainly going to involve counting on Republican voter amnesia. Either that, or they’ll try to portray Trump as some kind of aberration or anomaly.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:46:31am

re: #150 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Here is an article which, instead of talking to old white men in a diner for a change, they interviewed women in shopping centers, and they don’t like Trump’s rhetoric. apnews.com

Since then, there are few signs Trump has expanded his support among women. The 2018 midterms amounted to a strong showing of opposition among women in the suburbs, registering in unprecedented turnout overall, a Democratic House and a record number of women elected in statehouses across the country.

And a good Democratic candidate with coattails will continue the trend of wiping out Republicans at the state level as well.

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Old Liberal  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:47:00am

re: #85 Barefoot Grin

Yep. A lot of the guys with economic anxiety up here drive Ford F150s that tow fishing boats in summer and snowmobile sleds in winter. But the lumberjack beards make it all authentic.

Someone here recalled how well George Wallace did in WI and MI in 1968. Economic anxiety is real but they’ve been racists forever. In 1968 these states had high union wages.

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:48:05am

re: #153 Eclectic Cyborg

In today’s edition of “Rich People Suck” (TM):

Dozens of wealthy families in Illinois have reportedly been using a controversial tactic to help their children pay for college: They give up legal guardianship so the teenagers can claim dramatically lower incomes and earn need-based financial aid, according to reports from two news organizations published Monday.

ProPublica and The Wall Street Journal each detailed the efforts in separate articles after uncovering dozens of applications filed by Chicago-area parents to financially divorce themselves from their kids over the past year and a half.

As part of the strategy, wealthy parents allegedly file paperwork to transfer legal custody of their kids to other relatives, friends or even co-workers. When the transfers are complete — often during their junior or senior years of high school — students are then able to declare themselves financially independent on college applications. In one instance detailed by the Journal, a student whose parents owned a $1.2 million home only had to declare $4,200 in income from a summer job.

and no doubt the parents are still ‘subsidizing’ the kids

if you’re ‘financially independent’ and only earned $4,200, you are not paying your own food, clothing and shelter

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:48:08am

re: #158 Belafon

Agree. I just think we’ll do better with a bold choice rather than a safe one, especially, as people have noted under other circumstances, we need to inspire some people to come out to vote.

Kentucky’s presidential primary is usually late, so I’ll just have to see who is still in the race when I get to vote. I will consider the possibility that voters will feel safe voting for Biden because of his 8 years as VP, but that won’t be my only consideration.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:48:15am

re: #161 Dr Lizardo

If Trump does indeed crash and burn next year, I’m pretty confident that the GOP’s 2024 election strategy is almost certainly going to involve counting on Republican voter amnesia. Either that, or they’ll try to portray Trump as some kind of aberration or anomaly.

And the goal should be to make sure that doesn’t happen. Trump is not an anomaly. He is the latest stopping point on decades of Republican racism.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:50:51am

re: #164 DangerMan

and no doubt the parents are still ‘subsidizing’ the kids

if you’re ‘financially independent’ and only earned $4,200, you are not paying your own food, clothing and shelter

The rich always have an angle to play, and the law almost always lets them get away with it.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:50:59am

re: #165 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Kentucky’s presidential primary is usually late, so I’ll just have to see who is still in the race when I get to vote. I will consider the possibility that voters will feel safe voting for Biden because of his 8 years as VP, but that won’t be my only consideration.

Nebraska’s 2020 Democratic Primary will be on May 12. I imagine the field will by that time be winnowed to only a few, or one. (Yay, we get a primary for the first time.)

I’ll probably pull my hair out if that one is Maryanne Williamson, but even left-wing religious nut is better than Trump.

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Old Liberal  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:51:12am

re: #89 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Knowing that Trump and his immediate family members are very likely to be brought up on criminal charges upon losing the election I am starting to get concerned about judicial shenanigans caused by all of the Trump judge lackeys Republicans have been foisting on the country.

Trump actually refusing to leave the White House seems far fetched even for this abysmal President, but relying on ideological poisonous toadies installed into the Justice system itself seems a more likely means to ensure limited repercussions for the most corrupt and least ethical administration to ever infest the Executive branch.

I think there is merit to the worry about triggering a pattern of persecuting the previous president upon leaving office. Look how we react when drumpf threatens political attacks using criminal courts. But drumpf must be held accountable. What a mess 40 million people brought upon this nation.

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:53:21am

re: #159 HappyWarrior

That’s so infuriating. We need a system that allows for upward advancement not rewards the already established.

ps - the idea of college students emancipating to qualify for financial assistance goes back at least to the 70’s and probably before

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:53:29am

re: #161 Dr Lizardo

If Trump does indeed crash and burn next year, I’m pretty confident that the GOP’s 2024 election strategy is almost certainly going to involve counting on Republican voter amnesia. Either that, or they’ll try to portray Trump as some kind of aberration or anomaly.

The Trump base will still be there, and someone like Kobach will run as the white nationalist candidate with a good chance of winning the nomination. I’m not sure their base will settle for mere dogwhistles anymore.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:53:59am

re: #164 DangerMan

Just don’t get caught, I remember some Hollywood types getting caught up in an admissions scandal not too long ago.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:54:33am

re: #170 DangerMan

ps - the idea of college students emancipating to qualify for financial assistance goes back at least to the 70’s and probably before

Yeah, but it’s not something the middle class knew to take advantage of.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:56:23am

re: #170 DangerMan

ps - the idea of college students emancipating to qualify for financial assistance goes back at least to the 70’s and probably before

again goes to show that we need to reform our higher education system from the ground up…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:56:37am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹

And the goal should be to make sure that doesn’t happen. Trump is not an anomaly. He is the latest stopping point on decades of Republican racism.

Oh, absolutely. Trump needs to be the albatross around the GOP’s neck for, at bare minimum, a generation.

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:56:53am

re: #165 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Kentucky’s presidential primary is usually late, so I’ll just have to see who is still in the race when I get to vote. I will consider the possibility that voters will feel safe voting for Biden because of his 8 years as VP, but that won’t be my only consideration.

Poll from June:
Opponent Trump Democrat
Bernie Sanders 57% 35%
Joe Biden 57% 37%
Elizabeth Warren 60% 28%
Pete Buttigieg 60% 28%
Average 58.5% 32%

“So, Trump is basically running about 26.5 points ahead of the Democratic field. Meanwhile, in a hypothetical matchup against former Lexington mayor Jim Gray (D), McConnell leads by just 8 points, 49% to 41%. That means that the Senator is lagging the President by close to 20 points. In other words, there appear to be a sizable number of Trump-but-not-McConnell voters. And that was with Gray as McConnell’s opponent; since that poll was taken in June, the much stronger Amy McGrath has entered the Democratic race.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:56:57am

re: #160 HappyWarrior

We do a bold choice. We prevent someone like Rubio coming in 2024 praying on voter amnesia.

“Praying.”

A campaign based on Bible verses from the Old Testament. /s

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Sea Mexican  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:58:15am

re: #139 sagehen

One of Seth’s writers is Puerto Rican; she has thoughts.

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Video

DO YOU HAVE A POT?? BANG IT!!

Here’s some videos of the #CacerolaGirl :

Edit: Kinda forgot: Coarse (Puerto Rican Spanish) language.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:58:58am

re: #174 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again goes to show that we need to reform our higher education system from the ground up…

Elizabeth Warren has a plan for that. /s

That should be a bumper sticker.

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:00:15am

re: #167 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The rich always have an angle to play, and the law almost always lets them get away with it.

true

i’ll add that if your parents (or anyone else) are somehow in fact funneling you money, whether by gift, credit card or some other way funding your life, that is income for financial aid purposes and likely ought to be reported on applications. (funding sources arent that stupid. they caught on to this long ago)

so more than likely, someone’s committing fraud on their applications

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:00:39am

re: #171 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The Trump base will still be there, and someone like Kobach will run as the white nationalist candidate with a good chance of winning the nomination. I’m not sure their base will settle for mere dogwhistles anymore.

But with any luck, given the natural mortality rate, enough Republican voters will have begun to die off by 2024 that the white nationalist segment of the GOP will be relegated to a permanent - if loud and angry - minority, forever to be outvoted. And if the GOP can be locked out of the White House for as long as they were during FDR’s presidency (and with any luck, locked out of the House and Senate to boot), they might well decide it’s time to change course.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:02:19am
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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:02:32am

re: #169 Old Liberal

I think there is merit to the worry about triggering a pattern of persecuting the previous president upon leaving office. Look how we react when drumpf threatens political attacks using criminal courts. But drumpf must be held accountable. What a mess 40 million people brought upon this nation.

as long as the DOJ position stands, prosecuting for actual crimes committed while in office is not ‘persecuting’ upon leaving office

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Old Liberal  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:03:22am

re: #139 sagehen

One of Seth’s writers is Puerto Rican; she has thoughts.

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DO YOU HAVE A POT?? BANG IT!!

Perro Rico was of course devastated by the hurricane and still hurting. That was the million straws on the camel’s back. And their population is large and concentrated. We can put a million protesters into New York or DC and the rest of the country will yawn.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:03:44am

re: #181 Dr Lizardo

But with any luck, given the natural mortality rate, enough Republican voters will have begun to die off by 2024 that the white nationalist segment of the GOP will be relegated to a permanent - if loud and angry - minority, forever to be outvoted. And if the GOP can be locked out of the White House for as long as they were during FDR’s presidency (and with any luck, locked out of the House and Senate to boot), they might well decide it’s time to change course.

It’s projection always with conservatives.

Nazis and white supremacists are recruited, not gay people.

Plenty enough younger Nazis to take over for the old loud racists.

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:04:35am

re: #173 Belafon

Yeah, but it’s not something the middle class knew to take advantage of.

(‘75-‘79) we/ students talked about it all the time
very few actually had the nerve to jump off their personal gravy train

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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:05:47am

re: #141 Anymouse 🌹

LOL

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The Grim Hipster.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:06:21am

re: #184 Old Liberal

Perro Rico was of course devastated by the hurricane and still hurting. That was the million straws on the camel’s back. And their population is large and concentrated. We can put a million protesters into New York or DC and the rest of the country will yawn.

There were Puerto Ricans in the streets for two weeks.

How would DC or New York (but especially DC) even function if even their own populaces turned out for two weeks straight?

Imagine thousands of people all day and all night as close to the White House as possible banging pots and pans. Thrown in the Capitol as well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:07:05am

re: #186 DangerMan

(‘75-‘79) we/ students talked about it all the time
very few actually had the nerve to jump off their personal gravy train

We basically had to claim that my stepfather was a bastard and refused to support me (he was not) so we would be eligible for aid.

But in our case, my parents were on Social Security and did not own a million-dollar home, just a two-bedroom wood frame house in Merrillville, Indiana.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:10:09am

re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We basically had to claim that my stepfather was a bastard and refused to support me (he was not) so we would be eligible for aid.

But in our case, my parents were on Social Security and did not own a million-dollar home, just a two-bedroom wood frame house in Merrillville, Indiana.

Walked across the 7th Street Bridge the week I turned 18, and my family never saw me again. A couple years later President LBJ sent me greetings and offered to pay for my college. There was a hitch.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:10:35am

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹

Honestly, I don’t think there’s enough of them in the younger generation to match the demographic cohort that’s dying off. They’re loud, and certainly, social media amplifies their voices, but I’m fairly confident that in the end, they’ll be confined to the fringes of society. Eventually, they’ll slither back under the rocks from which they crawled, once they have an epiphany that their BS won’t be tolerated anymore.

Of course, we’ll always have these kind of morons, that goes without saying. But like most bullies, they back away when they’re confronted forcefully enough. Name ‘em and shame ‘em, and do it publicly, do it on social media, wherever it needs to be done.

Let them know, in no uncertain terms, that their noxious and hateful ideas have no place whatsoever in the United States of America.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:10:48am

re: #182 Anymouse 🌹

Trump’s the least racist White Supremacist I’ve ever seen, that’s for sure.

He has black friends.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:11:22am

re: #37 Anymouse 🌹

Christians love child rapists in churches.

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Old Liberal  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:12:02am

re: #183 DangerMan

as long as the DOJ position stands, prosecuting for actual crimes committed while in office is not ‘persecuting’ upon leaving office

Clinton impeachment was payback for Nixon impeachment. Republicans are assholes who do not respect law. Nonetheless drumpf must be prosecuted.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:13:17am

re: #157 lawhawk

Republican voters screwed the selves by voting for the GOP.

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Old Liberal  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:14:12am

re: #188 Anymouse 🌹

There were Puerto Ricans in the streets for two weeks.

How would DC or New York (but especially DC) even function if even their own populaces turned out for two weeks straight?

Imagine thousands of people all day and all night as close to the White House as possible banging pots and pans. Thrown in the Capitol as well.

IMO nothing would result. A series of national strikes might.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:14:14am

re: #188 Anymouse 🌹

There were Puerto Ricans in the streets for two weeks.

How would DC or New York (but especially DC) even function if even their own populaces turned out for two weeks straight?

Imagine thousands of people all day and all night as close to the White House as possible banging pots and pans. Thrown in the Capitol as well.

And then imagine none of the Evangelicals getting the Jericho reference.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:15:18am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:16:48am

The period serves as the “but” in those two sentences.
“Consider the full context.” What is this newspaper composed of, Christians trying to justify rape and slavery in the Bible?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:17:59am

re: #198 Patricia Kayden

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Gosh, I wonder how Glenn Greenwald feels about that especially after all the lies he spread for his pal…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:18:37am

re: #199 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t care about your excuse. Delete this trash.

Just delete your fucking account while you are at it.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:19:12am

re: #199 Anymouse 🌹

That young Adolph was a quiet boy that like to paint.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:19:58am

re: #202 Belafon

That young Adolph was a quiet boy that like to paint.

and a vegetarian who cared about animal welfare

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:20:31am

re: #202 Belafon

To wit…. wait for the punch line (youtube video of trailer for JoJo Rabbit

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:20:45am

re: #199 Anymouse 🌹

Gosh I wonder what they would tweet if he was black…or latin…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:20:50am

re: #203 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and a vegetarian who cared about animal welfare

Wounded veteran who served honorably

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:22:14am

re: #203 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and a vegetarian who cared about animal welfare

Sounds like a Leftist. We knew they were trouble.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:22:33am

re: #202 Belafon

That young Adolph was a quiet boy that like to paint.

When I was in college my Journalism Professor commented on how stupid it was that for every story about a mass shooter or serial killer, a media outlet would always find that one neighbor or friend of the perpetrator and would inevitably quote them as saying of the killer: “He was a quiet man.”

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William Lewis  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:23:01am

re: #86 DangerMan

” I was sharpening my scythe”

A phrase we don’t hear near enough

You’d get a kick out of me sharpening my swords then… ;)

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Sea Mexican  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:25:24am

re: #184 Old Liberal

Perro Rico was of course devastated by the hurricane and still hurting. That was the million straws on the camel’s back. And their population is large and concentrated. We can put a million protesters into New York or DC and the rest of the country will yawn.

That’s an interesting observation I’ve seen a couple of times and it makes sense. San Juan has a population of ~400k. Last week’s march had an estimated 600k people in it. That’s over 15% of the total population on the Island. That would be like ~50 million people taking the streets on the USA.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:26:47am

re: #203 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and a vegetarian who cared about animal welfare

And he loved dogs! And little kids!*

*well, the Aryan ones, at least

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Old Liberal  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:27:26am

re: #205 Joe Bacon 🌹

Gosh I wonder what they would tweet if he was black…or latin…

White people- good people who inexplicably do bad things.
Melanin people- bad people who inevitably do bad things.
White privilege exists? Spit

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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:30:15am

re: #210 Sea Mexican

That’s an interesting observation I’ve seen a couple of times and it makes sense. San Juan has a population of ~400k. Last week’s march had an estimated 600k people in it. That’s over 15% of the total population on the Island. That would be like ~50 million people taking the streets on the USA.

Takes a good bit to piss off that many people. There’s not much that could get 50 million here off their asses. Not sure what the death toll would be.

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:30:17am

re: #190 Decatur Deb

Walked across the 7th Street Bridge the week I turned 18, and my family never saw me again. A couple years later President LBJ sent me greetings and offered to pay for my college. There was a hitch.

so that’s why they call it that…

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Old Liberal  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:34:30am

re: #210 Sea Mexican

That’s an interesting observation I’ve seen a couple of times and it makes sense. San Juan has a population of ~400k. Last week’s march had an estimated 600k people in it. That’s over 15% of the total population on the Island. That would be like ~50 million people taking the streets on the USA.

Yes, and 50 million people spread across 100 cities, well if kept up for weeks might do something. But here we have to hurt the economy, and people aren’t desperate enough (yet) to do that. Shut down highways, stay home from work, etc.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:37:30am

re: #191 Dr Lizardo

Honestly, I don’t think there’s enough of them in the younger generation to match the demographic cohort that’s dying off. They’re loud, and certainly, social media amplifies their voices, but I’m fairly confident that in the end, they’ll be confined to the fringes of society. Eventually, they’ll slither back under the rocks from which they crawled, once they have an epiphany that their BS won’t be tolerated anymore.

Of course, we’ll always have these kind of morons, that goes without saying. But like most bullies, they back away when they’re confronted forcefully enough. Name ‘em and shame ‘em, and do it publicly, do it on social media, wherever it needs to be done.

Let them know, in no uncertain terms, that their noxious and hateful ideas have no place whatsoever in the United States of America.

Really, about the only thing that will keep them afloat for even another decade will be voter apathy, capitalizing largely upon the idea that voting “doesn’t change anything” and so artificially driving down participation. When voter participation is high, the Repubs tend to fall short at the polls, so the only means of ensuring their survival will be in getting voters to stay home.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:40:00am

re: #212 Old Liberal

White people- good people who inexplicably do bad things.
Melanin people- bad people who inevitably do bad things.
White privilege exists? Spit

White teen shoots up public gathering: “He was a quiet, young kid who was secretly troubled. Nobody saw this coming!”

Black teen shot dead for walking “suspiciously” in a hoodie: “He had a history of disciplinary issues and might have bought items to make ‘purple drank’! He was no angel!”

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Citizen K  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:41:04am

The very fact that the question was asked is something that makes me want to throw an entire desk at the TV.

Wondering if Trump is racist or if his statements contain racism is beyond the pale…but lets ask if the people he attacked are ‘racist’ just because he said so.

For fucking fuck’s sake.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:42:40am

re: #216 Targetpractice

Really, about the only thing that will keep them afloat for even another decade will be voter apathy, capitalizing largely upon the idea that voting “doesn’t change anything” and so artificially driving down participation. When voter participation is high, the Repubs tend to fall short at the polls, so the only means of ensuring their survival will be in getting voters to stay home.

High voter turnout is invariably the kiss of death for the GOP. They don’t have the numbers to win.

Eventually, Texas is going to become a swing state - and then probably a blue state. And when that happens, the GOP is pretty much finished as a nationally competitive party.

Texas is the key.

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:43:31am

re: #219 Dr Lizardo

High voter turnout is invariably the kiss of death for the GOP. They don’t have the numbers to win.

Eventually, Texas is going to become a swing state - and then probably a blue state. And when that happens, the GOP is pretty much finished as a nationally competitive party.

Texas is the key.

when democrats vote, democrats win!

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:44:05am

re: #220 DangerMan

when democrats vote, democrats win!

Very true.

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Sea Mexican  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:45:00am

re: #213 Decatur Deb

Takes a good bit to piss off that many people. There’s not much that could get 50 million here off their asses. Not sure what the death toll would be.

Rosselló managed to do just that.

And just to rub more salt on the wound:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:45:13am

re: #216 Targetpractice

Really, about the only thing that will keep them afloat for even another decade will be voter apathy, capitalizing largely upon the idea that voting “doesn’t change anything” and so artificially driving down participation. When voter participation is high, the Repubs tend to fall short at the polls, so the only means of ensuring their survival will be in getting voters to stay home.

Apathy and indifference are the best forms of voter suppression…

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Citizen K  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:45:14am

re: #219 Dr Lizardo

High voter turnout is invariably the kiss of death for the GOP. They don’t have the numbers to win.

Eventually, Texas is going to become a swing state - and then probably a blue state. And when that happens, the GOP is pretty much finished as a nationally competitive party.

Texas is the key.

But they’re doing their best to make high turnout an impossibility by 1) trying to ensure as few voters are actually considered ‘eligible’ as possible, and 2) targeting and reducing the number of polling locations in all the right (wrong?) locations so they can negate the turnout with long to impossible wait times.

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William Lewis  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:49:49am

Looks like another exquisite documentary on PBS’ American Masters: The late SF grand master, Ursula Le Guin.

Worlds of Ursula K. Le Guin TRAILER | Sheffield Doc/Fest 2018

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:58:22am

re: #222 Sea Mexican

Rosselló managed to do just that.

And just to rub more salt on the wound:

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unless it was actually spoiled or somehow tainted due to mismanagement, water does not go bad
reaching it’s expiration date is BS
especially in those circumstances - they’re recovering from a fucking hurricane

livescience

Water doesn’t go bad. Having a freshness date on a bottle of water makes about as much sense as having an expiration date on sugar or salt.

There are several reasons why water bottles come with an expiration date. The main one is government bureaucracy: Water is a consumable food product, and as such, it is subject to laws requiring expiration dates on all consumables, from bologna to lemonade.

Besides that, the expiration date on bottled water has certain benefits for the manufacturer.

Although water, in and of itself, does not go bad, the plastic bottle it is contained in does “expire,” and will eventually start leaching chemicals into the water. This won’t necessarily render the water toxic, but it might make it taste somewhat less than “mountain spring fresh.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:59:01am
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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:00:15am

re: #224 Citizen K

But they’re doing their best to make high turnout an impossibility by 1) trying to ensure as few voters are actually considered ‘eligible’ as possible, and 2) targeting and reducing the number of polling locations in all the right (wrong?) locations so they can negate the turnout with long to impossible wait times.

A delaying tactic, not really much more. Much like with gerrymandering, which is a front that they’re slowly losing ground on with each passing election.

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Sea Mexican  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:00:48am

re: #215 Old Liberal

Yes, and 50 million people spread across 100 cities, well if kept up for weeks might do something. But here we have to hurt the economy, and people aren’t desperate enough (yet) to do that. Shut down highways, stay home from work, etc.

One of the slogans was “they took so much from us, that they took our fear”, and it has a grain of truth. Before Hurricane Maria, many righties scared people with the possibility of scarcity of food if a strike extended too long, especially if the truckers joined in. Now, many people aren’t scared of such prospect. We survived worse during the weeks and months following Maria.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:00:52am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:01:58am

re: #222 Sea Mexican

Rosselló managed to do just that.

And just to rub more salt on the wound:

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If you can get a credible death toll from the storm and aftermath, project that onto the mainland’s 300+ millions. That’s a lot of body bags.

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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:03:07am

re: #230 The Pie Overlord!

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I’m completely surprised that he didn’t mouth off about the protester.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:03:50am

re: #226 DangerMan

Beat me to it. I was like: “Wait, what the fuck? I don’t think water goes bad…”

Even “less than mountain fresh” water can still be used for cleaning, bathing, rinsing, etc.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:04:29am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Apathy and indifference are the best forms of voter suppression…

Apathy, indifference and..surprise!!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:04:56am

Pro-trump trolls are getting sloppy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:08:27am

re: #220 DangerMan

when democrats are allowed to vote, democrats win!

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:10:27am
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Sea Mexican  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:15:43am

re: #226 DangerMan

unless it was actually spoiled or somehow tainted due to mismanagement, water does not go bad
reaching it’s expiration date is BS
especially in those circumstances - they’re recovering from a fucking hurricane

livescience

Interesting! Thank you!

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:16:01am

THREAD: Alan Dershowitz is a sack of shit.

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jaunte  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:17:17am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:20:49am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:22:25am

re: #241 The Pie Overlord!

Should we CUT TO: STEPHEN MILLER in room next to Oval Office, calling TRUMP? “Hi, this is the AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY. Is President Trump home?”

Diamond and Silk were taking turns phoning him using different voices…

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:23:03am

re: #222 Sea Mexican

The concern with the plastic bottled water is that with it sitting in the open like that that the plastic could degrade/contaminate the water.

The bigger problem is that FEMA sat on this water supply and failed to provide the logistics to distribute it to those in need - they failed to identify that they lacked resources to distribute it, get it where it was needed, etc.

That’s a failure on FEMA. It’s a failure of the PR govt to prioritize resources to move the water to where it was needed. It was a failure of Trumpworld to provide resources when the entire PR infrastructure was basically wiped out by Maria. They failed to make the logistics available to distribute that water.

The failure starts with Trump and extends all the way down to the PR Governor and his officials that knew or had reason to know that the water was there, but couldn’t get it where it was needed.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:26:38am

re: #230 The Pie Overlord!

Did trump’s brown shirts shoot the protester?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:26:50am

re: #241 The Pie Overlord!

Should we CUT TO: STEPHEN MILLER in room next to Oval Office, calling TRUMP? “Hi, this is the AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY. Is President Trump home?”

I’m trying to imagine Miller doing his best Redd Foxx impression.

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:30:22am

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

it’s important that we widen our focus from merely GOTV on election day / getting people to the polls / remember to absentee vote

its reminding people to check the status of their registration early. so there’s time to fix it or re-register if necessary. before the deadlines in their state/district

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:34:53am

re: #245 Dr Lizardo

I’m trying to imagine Miller doing his best Stepin Fetchitt impression.

More accurate…

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:35:46am

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹

It’s projection always with conservatives.

Nazis and white supremacists are recruited, not gay people.

Plenty enough younger Nazis to take over for the old loud racists.

The Covington students for one.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:35:48am

Sheesh! When I was a little kid, a Pound was a lot of money ($2.77 in 1955 dollars).

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:37:22am

re: #141 Anymouse 🌹

LOL

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If you’re still here…how is it you came to live in NE? How did you find that house? What made you move from OK to NE…or even consider NE as a place to go?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:40:29am

How come I never saw this before?

American Psycho with Huey Lewis and Weird Al

LOL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:41:07am

re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:43:19am

re: #249 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Sheesh! When I was a little kid, a Pound was a lot of money ($2.77 in 1955 dollars).

Now 1 Pound is $1.21. The lowest I have ever seen it in my life.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:44:07am

re: #251 Dr Lizardo

How come I never saw this before?

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LOL

Haha I did see that. Loved the meta humor.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:45:41am

re: #249 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Sheesh! When I was a little kid, a Pound was a lot of money ($2.77 in 1955 dollars).

Yeah, in the early 1970s, when I was a little kid, it was still pretty expensive relative to the Dollar (about $2.50 to £1.00).

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:48:27am

re: #253 MsJ

Now 1 Pound is $1.21. The lowest I have ever seen it in my life.

I think it has a ways to go yet. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see 1:1 parity with the USD in a couple of months - or even sooner.

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:48:35am

#thegreatpoolpondconversion - 190728 edition ———————->

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:48:48am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:49:59am

JFC

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:51:31am

re: #220 DangerMan

when democrats vote, democrats win!

And when Democrats cannot vote? Look at what’s happened in Florida when the people voted to restore voting rights to citizens with felony records and the GOP legislature effectively overturned the referendum. Look at the Texas woman who has been sentenced to 5 years in prison because she mistakenly thought she was eligible to vote. There is widespread voter disenfranchisement and suppression throughout this country.

Even in blue Illinois, many poor people are deprived of their right to vote because the don’t have a permanent address — they move from friend to friend. Over 10 years ago, my sister was poll-watching in Waukegan: one person after another came to the poll and discovered they weren’t registered there and didn’t have a clue where they would be eligible to vote.

And let’s not forget how polls in minority districts often have too few voting booths and people are forced to stay in lines for hours, which many cannot afford to do.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:51:35am

re: #258 The Pie Overlord!

As an aside, I can say with some happiness that at last - AT LAST!! - the big supermarkets here in Ostrava are finally selling bagels! I noticed they started showing up in the bakery sections about three weeks ago, much to my great joy. At first, packaged bagels, but now, the supermarket bakeries are making their own bagels and putting them out for sale.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:51:47am

re: #256 Dr Lizardo

I think it has a ways to go yet. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see 1:1 parity with the USD in a couple of months - or even sooner.

It’s almost at par with the Euro right now. Not sure if that ever happened before (perhaps early on right after the Euro was introduced).

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:53:53am

re: #262 MsJ

It’s almost at par with the Euro right now. Not sure if that ever happened before (perhaps early on right after the Euro was introduced).

I think the £ will be at 1:1 parity with the € in a matter of weeks.

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Citizen K  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:54:54am

It really just never stops, does it?

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:54:57am

re: #261 Dr Lizardo

As an aside, I can say with some happiness that at last - AT LAST!! - the big supermarkets here in Ostrava are finally selling bagels! I noticed they started showing up in the bakery sections about three weeks ago, much to great joy. At first, packaged bagels, but now, the supermarket bakeries are making their own bagels and putting them out for sale.

My local store, Meijer, used to make these fabulous blueberry scones at their bakery onsite. Then they went to prepackaged dreck that was barely edible. I bought them once and tossed most of them (yes, they were that bad).

I saw the baked ones the other day when an older woman in an electric cart had them, so we started chatting.

I can’t eat them now but man, those were THE BEST scones. I drool just thinking about them.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:55:24am

re: #263 Dr Lizardo

I think the £ will be at 1:1 parity with the € in a matter of weeks.

And below par in the weeks thereafter.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:55:56am

re: #241 The Pie Overlord!

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It’s a reverse Black Klansmen.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:56:36am

JFCWTFITS

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:56:59am

re: #260 Hecuba’s daughter

And when Democrats cannot vote? Look at what’s happened in Florida when the people voted to restore voting rights to citizens with felony records and the GOP legislature effectively overturned the referendum. Look at the Texas woman who has been sentenced to 5 years in prison because she mistakenly thought she was eligible to vote. There is widespread voter disenfranchisement and suppression throughout this country.

Even in blue Illinois, many poor people are deprived of their right to vote because the don’t have a permanent address — they move from friend to friend. Over 10 years ago, my sister was poll-watching in Waukegan: one person after another came to the poll and discovered they weren’t registered there and didn’t have a clue where they would be eligible to vote.

And let’s not forget how polls in minority districts often have too few voting booths and people are forced to stay in lines for hours, which many cannot afford to do.

see my re: #246 DangerMan

what the florida legislature did was vile
as for adequate amounts of equipment or moving/closing polling places - i dont have answers for those yet

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:58:07am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 9:59:31am

re: #266 MsJ

And below par in the weeks thereafter.

That really wouldn’t be a big surprise. And if a Brexit crashout occurs come October 31st, the £ is gonna fall off the cliff.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:02:15am

re: #271 Dr Lizardo

That really wouldn’t be a big surprise. And if a Brexit crashout occurs come October 31st, the £ is gonna fall off the cliff.

Yup. Racism over your own best interest.

Or ignorance in the face of lies.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:03:43am

re: #268 The Pie Overlord!

Trump has totally lost his shit. There is no reasonable strategy that says this crazy crap can help him.

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William Lewis  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:05:25am

re: #270 Barefoot Grin

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Hey Mitch? Who pays better bribes “campaign contributions ” -Russia or Exxon - Mobil?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:06:15am

re: #243 lawhawk

The concern with the plastic bottled water is that with it sitting in the open like that that the plastic could degrade/contaminate the water.

The bigger problem is that FEMA sat on this water supply and failed to provide the logistics to distribute it to those in need - they failed to identify that they lacked resources to distribute it, get it where it was needed, etc.

That’s a failure on FEMA. It’s a failure of the PR govt to prioritize resources to move the water to where it was needed. It was a failure of Trumpworld to provide resources when the entire PR infrastructure was basically wiped out by Maria. They failed to make the logistics available to distribute that water.

The failure starts with Trump and extends all the way down to the PR Governor and his officials that knew or had reason to know that the water was there, but couldn’t get it where it was needed.

Something to hang on the Republicans: “Heck of a job, Brownie.”

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:07:59am

re: #271 Dr Lizardo

That really wouldn’t be a big surprise. And if a Brexit crashout occurs come October 31st, the £ is gonna fall off the cliff.

And we all know how positive an experience it is for a country to undergo hyperinflation, famine, and political instability all at once…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:10:35am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:10:40am

re: #273 Decatur Deb

Trump has totally lost his shit. There is no reasonable strategy that says this crazy crap can help him.

There’s a certain cult-like aspect to this: Once you have defended Trump’s obvious racism by claiming it’s not racism at all, it’s a lot harder to go back to join in company of reasonable people.

E.g. -

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:12:01am
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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:13:12am
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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:14:06am
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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:14:30am

re: #259 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

“A real president wouldn’t be spending his days on twitter looking for people to retweet.”

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:15:33am

re: #282 MsJ

Trump uses very specific language when attacking POC.

Trump uses generic insults for most everyone else. But when it comes to POC, the language he uses is very specific. This is not by accident.

Trump . IS . A . RACIST.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:16:15am

re: #281 lawhawk

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The “man of the people,” ladies and gents. Prepared to kick millions of Americans off government assistance in order to free up money to pay for the tax cuts to the 0.1% that bankroll the GOP.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:16:37am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:17:36am

re: #286 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Apparently Alan Dershowitz is busy defending Chuck Johnson and statutory rape.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:18:36am

re: #286 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Who next? Courtney Love saying Dems don’t care about anti-drug laws?

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:18:43am

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

Because the people that design the banners that show up no your TV screen wonder what they would look like in 3D.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:19:13am

re: #286 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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holy shit. I would do a WTF but hey, it’s on brand.

which makes me truly think that the person running that twitter account is pals with the dude who created the fake POTUS seal with the golf clubs.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:19:54am

re: #279 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s a certain cult-like aspect to this: Once you have defended Trump’s obvious racism by claiming it’s not racism at all, it’s a lot harder to go back to join in company of reasonable people.

E.g. -

And in how many of those, Brit, did he use the word infested?

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:21:05am

Trump’s not a racist, he just happens to say a lot of shit that racists love him for. See, totally different from his being a racist!

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:21:15am

I think I’ve this before, but if I’m ever the victim of gun violence, I would want everyone to politicize the fuck out of it and demand gun control and strict controls, because but for the easy availability of guns, I would have been alive still. Don’t wait. Politicize my funeral. Don’t wait. Don’t listen to the NRA calling for waiting.

Why? Because we’ve waited far too long from Columbine and every other mass shooting and suicide and domestic violence murder/suicide to wait another day longer.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:22:24am

re: #279 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s a certain cult-like aspect to this: Once you have defended Trump’s obvious racism by claiming it’s not racism at all, it’s a lot harder to go back to join in company of reasonable people.

E.g. -

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Convenient that he left out the “Pocahontas” reference for Warren.

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Ming5000  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:25:24am

Team Bernie is not helping.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:25:26am

re: #264 Citizen K

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It really just never stops, does it?

And here’s the thing: the Greenville News is a Gannett paper, and I’d bet a very sizable amount that (like most Gannett papers) there’s nobody locally in Greenville making any decisions about what national content gets pushed out to its Twitter feed.

It comes from USA Today/Gannett national and probably shows up at the same time not only in Greenville but at 80 other “local” papers around the country. If it’s anything like my “local” Gannett paper here in upstate NY, there’s literally not even a local editor anymore.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:25:37am

re: #284 lawhawk

Trump uses very specific language when attacking POC.

Trump uses generic insults for most everyone else. But when it comes to POC, the language he uses is very specific. This is not by accident.

Trump . IS . A . RACIST.

Fuckin’ A.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:26:47am

re: #253 MsJ

Now 1 Pound is $1.21. The lowest I have ever seen it in my life.

Back in the early 80s the pound was down to $1.03. Drove the arbitrage brokers bonkers!

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:29:59am

re: #293 lawhawk

As horrific and appalling to contemplate as it would be, what do you think the public’s reaction would’ve been if uncensored crime scene photos were shown from the Sandy Hook Massacre?

There’s an argument out there that says that part of the problem is that the general public never really sees the horrifying consequences of gun violence and as a result, they sort of tune it out because they’re not confronted with the gory reality.

Of course, I know the argument against - there’s a lot of sick bastards out there who’d probably get off on such things. But overall, I think the Average Joe/Jane would be sickened beyond words - and just maybe, they’d demand action be taken.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:30:34am
The 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said Brevard County violated the First Amendment’s “Establishment Clause” by allowing clerics from Christian, Jewish, Muslim and other monotheistic religions and denominations deliver invocations at county commissioner meetings, while excluding atheists, secular humanists and others deemed outside the “mainstream.”

Williamson v. Brevard County, No. 17-15769 (11th Cir. 2019) (Justia)

In this case, Brevard County has selected invocation speakers in a way that favors certain monotheistic religions and categorically excludes from consideration other religions solely based on their belief systems. Brevard County’s process of selecting invocation speakers thus runs afoul of the Establishment Clause. As it stands, members of the Brevard County Board of Commissioners have plenary authority, on a rotating basis, to invite whomever they want to deliver invocations, with no consistent standards or expectation of inclusiveness. From their testimony, it is abundantly clear that most if not all of the Commissioners exercise their discretion in a way that discriminates among religions based on their beliefs, favoring some but not all monotheistic and familiar religious sects over those faiths that fall outside the “mainstream.” Moreover, some religions are scrutinized by the Commissioners more closely, and others are even categorically excluded from consideration. Secular humanists are far from the only group viewed with disfavor. Thus, for example, some of the Commissioners and former Commissioners have testified unambiguously that they would not allow deists, Wiccans, Rastafarians, or, for that matter, polytheists to deliver prayers, and that they would have to think long and hard before inviting a Hindu, a Sikh, or a follower of a Native American religion. Nothing could be clearer from this record than that more than a few of the Commissioners rejected speakers based squarely on the nature of the religious beliefs they held.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:30:50am

re: #299 Dr Lizardo

As horrific and appalling to contemplate as it would be, what do you think the public’s reaction would’ve been if uncensored crime scene photos were shown from the Sandy Hook Massacre?

There’s an argument out there that says that part of the problem is that the general public never really sees the horrifying consequences of gun violence and as a result, they sort of tune it out because they’re not confronted with the gory reality.

Of course, I know the argument against - there’s a lot of sick bastards out there who’d probably get off on such things. But overall, I think the Average Joe/Jane would be sickened beyond words - and just maybe, they’d demand action be taken.

Isn’t that what finally turned the public against Vietnam?

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:32:55am

re: #295 Ming5000

Team Bernie is not helping.

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Bernie turning into the political equivalent of a suicide bomber.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:33:55am

Meanwhile there is a nation-wide hunt for 2 murderers on the run north of the border:

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plansbandc  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:34:27am
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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:35:51am

re: #295 Ming5000

Team Bernie is not helping.

He’s losing people to her in the polls. He’s trying everything he can. I suspect she has a plan for him as well.

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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:39:00am

re: #299 Dr Lizardo

As horrific and appalling to contemplate as it would be, what do you think the public’s reaction would’ve been if uncensored crime scene photos were shown from the Sandy Hook Massacre?

There’s an argument out there that says that part of the problem is that the general public never really sees the horrifying consequences of gun violence and as a result, they sort of tune it out because they’re not confronted with the gory reality.

Of course, I know the argument against - there’s a lot of sick bastards out there who’d probably get off on such things. But overall, I think the Average Joe/Jane would be sickened beyond words - and just maybe, they’d demand action be taken.

You’ve got me wondering how Australia handled it after their last mass shooting, and why public opinion was so overwhelming that they achieved at total ban on assault weapons.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:39:43am

re: #298 Joe Bacon 🌹

Back in the early 80s the pound was down to $1.03. Drove the arbitrage brokers bonkers!

But that 1984-1985 episode was caused by sky high US Interest rates which drove enormous demand for US Financial assets and away from foreign currencies, totally different scenario from now.

Interest rates are at historical lows and this is a significant problem for boosting revenues for the UK considering that any spending stimulus in any economic weakness will further erode budget confidence.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:39:51am

If the earth were flat we could box the whole thing up and shove it off the edge.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:40:25am

re: #301 MsJ

Isn’t that what finally turned the public against Vietnam?

It was a lot of things, but yes, seeing graphic combat footage certainly outraged a good many people.

It’s been noted by many, and I tend to agree with it, that it was the 1968 Tet Offensive that really turned the American public against the Vietnam War. The Tet Offensive was an unmitigated disaster for the Viet Cong - they were pretty much wiped out in an ill-conceived plan. At the end of the day, they were utterly crushed.

But….it was a triumphant propaganda victory for the North Vietnamese. It shattered the illusion that South Vietnam was a “stable American ally” and that the military situation was “under complete control”. Though the North Vietnamese failed to achieve any of their goals, they caught us with our pants down and made American military leaders look like fools. Of course, there was that infamous film of a Viet Cong being summarily executed by a South Vietnamese Brigadier General after having been accused (and instantly found guilty) of murdering a South Vietnamese military officer and his entire family.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:41:56am

Nikki Haley trying to gaslight us. Trump made no such offer of help.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:42:23am

re: #306 makeitstop

You’ve got me wondering how Australia handled it after their last mass shooting, and why public opinion was so overwhelming that they achieved at total ban on assault weapons.

That’s a very good question. I don’t know any Australians to ask, but I do wonder if the grisly aftermath of the Port Arthur Massacre was shown on TV.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:43:21am

re: #306 makeitstop

You’ve got me wondering how Australia handled it after their last mass shooting, and why public opinion was so overwhelming that they achieved at total ban on assault weapons.

Even or especially since it was an attack against those icky mooslems. People in Australia are not exactly known for their acceptance.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:44:27am

re: #299 Dr Lizardo

We’re immunized against the horrific carnage. We instead get treated to photos of the gunmen, but not the damage that they’ve done to children and toddlers.

We get to know about the background of the gunmen and their grievances against the “other” while the victims and their families suffer from the emptiness and profound sadness of their loss.

For some, I think it’s the equivalent of cartoon violence or movie violence - PG-13 rating.

It’s the difference between Saving Private Ryan showing the savage carnage of D-Day, versus the seemingly bloodless deaths in the MCU. People die, but it’s shown offscreen or the bodies are dead, but not with the blood and gore.

I get that the news tries to limit the carnage. Heck, we saw it after 9/11 too - we were all glued to the screens as the towers came down, and watched it on repeat, as new footage was identified. We focused on those falling out of the towers, knowing how that ended. But after a while, we stopped seeing the footage. The point was made.

Do we see too much violence? Yes. But we don’t see the consequences of the violence. And I believe that’s a critical difference.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:46:29am
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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:51:41am

re: #310 The Pie Overlord!

Nikki Haley trying to gaslight us. Trump made no such offer of help.

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To be fair to Nikki, he did say that the city leaders of Baltimore could call him and he’ll help Baltimore. He phrased it in the most obvious “kiss the ring” fashion possible, as if there’s not going to be some major string attached to his offer of “help,” but he did make it.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:52:04am

re: #311 Dr Lizardo

I don’t know any Australians to ask, but I do wonder if the grisly aftermath of the Port Arthur Massacre was shown on TV.

Jim Jeffries did a bit during one of his concerts on the Port Arthur Massacre.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:52:05am

re: #313 lawhawk

Excellent point about the all-too-often unseen consequences of violence. There’s an apocryphal story about Paul Verhoeven. After finishing up RoboCop, he of course took it to the MPAA to get a rating for it.

The MPAA instantly slapped an “X” Rating on the film, for graphic violence. Verhoeven felt this was unfair. One of the MPAA board members told him, “The violence in that film almost made me physically sick! I could feel myself getting ready to vomit!”

To which Verhoeven replied, “That is the point, madam. If you’re not sickened by seeing someone brutally shot to death, then you’d be a psychopath. You’ve proven that you’re quite sane.”

He did make a few minor edits - but not many. RoboCop was one of the few films of the ’80s where the consequences of violence were shown in the most graphic manner possible.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:53:25am

re: #308 Barefoot Grin

If the earth were flat we could box the whole thing up and shove it off the edge.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:53:50am

re: #317 Dr Lizardo

I’m assuming you’re missing a “not” in the third paragraph.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:53:51am

re: #303 The Pie Overlord!

Meanwhile there is a nation-wide hunt for 2 murderers on the run north of the border:

It appears they ran up a provincial highway which is a dead end in northern Manitoba. They have a choice of woods and bear food (and no food for themselves), or try to steal another car and return back south (and probably right into a roadblock), or turn themselves in.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:54:29am

re: #319 Belafon

I’m assuming you’re missing a “not” in the third paragraph.

Yeah, I fixed it. Refresh the comment.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:54:36am

re: #308 Barefoot Grin

OMG it’s David Avocado Wolfe!! That’s funny as fuck. Just google the name and read the bullshit associated with it. Bwahahaha! I wonder how much they’re paying this fraud.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:55:08am

re: #315 Targetpractice

To be fair to Nikki, he did say that the city leaders of Baltimore could call him and he’ll help Baltimore. He phrased it in the most obvious “kiss the ring” fashion possible, as if there’s not going to be some major string attached to his offer of “help,” but he did make it.

It’s still gaslighting. It’s typical of Trump to make grand sweeping shows of promising to “help” and then bragging about it while throwing some rolls of paper towel.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:56:58am

re: #317 Dr Lizardo

Excellent point about the all-too-often unseen consequences of violence. There’s an apocryphal story about Paul Verhoeven. After finishing up RoboCop, he of course took it to the MPAA to get a rating for it.

The MPAA instantly slapped an “X” Rating on the film, for graphic violence. Verhoeven felt this was unfair. One of the MPAA board members told him, “The violence in that film almost made me physically sick! I could feel myself getting ready to vomit!”

To which Verhoeven replied, “That is the point, madam. If you’re sickened by seeing someone brutally shot to death, then you’d be a psychopath. You’ve proven that you’re quite sane.”

He did make a few minor edits - but not many. RoboCop was one of the few films of the ’80s were the consequences of violence were shown in the most graphic manner possible.

IIRC, the two of the big scenes that he had to change were the meeting room scene at the beginning and Murphy’s execution scene. And the only real change he made…was just to cut off a few seconds/frames from each scene. That apparently was all it took for the MPAA to drop the “X” to an “R.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 10:58:35am

re: #324 Targetpractice

IIRC, the two of the big scenes that he had to change were the meeting room scene at the beginning and Murphy’s execution scene. And the only real change he made…was just to cut off a few seconds/frames from each scene. That apparently was all it took for the MPAA to drop the “X” to an “R.”

Exactly. From what I’ve read, the boardroom scene with the ED-209 was originally done in slow motion.

Yeesh.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:01:46am

re: #313 lawhawk

Maybe seeing medical photos, not just the bloody ER aftermath, but photos and film of the surgeries needed to repair the damage would be an impactful thing. If I get shot I WANT people to see the fucking carnage. I realize getting to that place during a trauma caused by gun violence is something a lot of people wouldn’t do, but I honestly think the only way people will get it is to have it right in their faces. Doctors keep speaking out about this but they aren’t being heard as much as they need to be.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:02:36am

re: #325 Dr Lizardo

Exactly. From what I’ve read, the boardroom scene with the ED-209 was originally done in slow motion.

Yeesh.

And the only thing that the MPAA really objected to in that scene…was the fact that it went on for so long. Basically they were cool with some young punk exec getting jackhammered with high-caliber autocannon fire…they just objected to the camera lingering on it for so long.

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Alephnaught  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:05:05am

re: #253 MsJ

Now 1 Pound is $1.21. The lowest I have ever seen it in my life.

I seem to remember at some point in the 1980s, the pound was almost, but not quite, equal to the dollar- something like £1 = $1.02.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:05:23am

re: #327 Targetpractice

And the only thing that the MPAA really objected to in that scene…was the fact that it went on for so long. Basically they were cool with some young punk exec getting jackhammered with high-caliber autocannon fire…they just objected to the camera lingering on it for so long.

People don’t think about it now, but for its time, RoboCop was a pretty graphically violent film (not counting transgressive films like Henry, Portrait of a Serial Killer or exploitation flicks like Cannibal Holocaust).

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Old Liberal  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:31:29am

re: #284 lawhawk

Trump uses very specific language when attacking POC.

Trump uses generic insults for most everyone else. But when it comes to POC, the language he uses is very specific. This is not by accident.

Trump . IS . A . RACIST.

Exactly. Infested. Shithole. No one can live there. Go back. No one would live there. If he said Cummings was an idiot or Ilhan a moron, perhaps a valid comparison exists. But that’s not at all what he does. Hume is a shithole commentary from a Nazi infested media company.

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Old Liberal  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:32:30am

re: #289 Belafon

Because the people that design the banners that show up no your TV screen wonder what they would look like in 3D.

There’s no business like show business.


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