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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:02:22am
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Ming5000  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:05:54am

My Congress Representative has apparently endorsed Elizabeth Warren. Andy Levin

This seems a bit early to me. I have not heard of many endorsements made at this point.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:07:19am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:08:35am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

upding for “Trump Chaos Nexus”

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:10:58am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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I’m just inordinately mesmerized by today’s hair. As to the crap spewing from his gross mouth—ugh.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:11:21am

Continued from downstairs:

re: #329 Dr Lizardo

People don’t think about it now, but for its time, RoboCop was a pretty graphically violent film (not counting transgressive films like Henry, Portrait of a Serial Killer or exploitation flicks like Cannibal Holocaust).

This was a time when the MPAA ratings actually meant something, back before “PG-13” became the industry standard and studios were actually willing to roll the dice on a film that attracted an “R” rating. Which is what makes so many of the “reboot” films so pathetic by comparison, that movies known for taking chances and rocking the boat are now reduced to kid-friendly retreads.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:12:04am
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gocart mozart  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:12:33am
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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:13:12am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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His ego has apparently suffered a grievous injury, as he’s just attacking everybody remotely connected to Cummings. I guess having his little girl’s texts subpoenaed was like striking a raw nerve.

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sagehen  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:16:46am

re: #2 Ming5000

My Congress Representative has apparently endorsed Elizabeth Warren.

This seems a bit early to me. I have not heard of many endorsements made at this point.

My Congress Representative is super-busy chairing the Judiciary Committee; he hasn’t opined at all about any of the D primary candidates.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:18:05am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:18:19am

re: #6 Targetpractice

Continued from downstairs:

This was a time when the MPAA ratings actually meant something, back before “PG-13” became the industry standard and studios were actually willing to roll the dice on a film that attracted an “R” rating. Which is what makes so many of the “reboot” films so pathetic by comparison, that movies known for taking chances and rocking the boat are now reduced to kid-friendly retreads.

That’s a good point and it’s also what made Deadpool stand out from the crop of other recent superhero films. A lot of credit is due to Ryan Reynolds, who really fought to get that film made - and I, for one, am damn happy that he did.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:19:51am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

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The media has absolutely no idea how to deal with this shitstorm. They’re totally geared for the classic “horse race” narrative, the idea that both parties have put forth sane nominees who will offer differing but otherwise workable proposals to address America’s problems. And no matter how hard they’ve tried to fit the square peg that is Donald Trump into the round hole marked “presidential,” their efforts have been totally in vain and so they are rolling into an election where they’re going to have to make constant efforts on a daily basis to avoid admitting that the incumbent president is a power-mad loon who would have his opponent summarily executed if he thought he could get away with it.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:20:20am

re: #9 Targetpractice

His ego has apparently suffered a grievous injury, as he’s just attacking everybody remotely connected to Cummings. I guess having his little girl’s texts subpoenaed was like striking a raw nerve.

That very well could be it. He sees the law going after Ivanka as nothing less than an attack on his person.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:22:37am

re: #12 Dr Lizardo

That’s a good point and it’s also what made Deadpool stand out from the crop of other recent superhero films. A lot of credit is due to Ryan Reynolds, who really fought to get that film made - and I, for one, am damn happy that he did.

Sadly, for every Deadpool, there’s an In the Mouth of Madness that will never see the light of day because the movie studios are afraid of investing in any film that could in any way be seen as a gamble.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:23:46am

re: #11 Patricia Kayden

Indeed. And good.

In more than three dozen interviews by The Associated Press with women in critical suburbs, nearly all expressed dismay — or worse — at Trump’s racially polarizing insults and what was often described as unpresidential treatment of people. Even some who gave Trump credit for the economy or backed his crackdown on immigration acknowledged they were troubled or uncomfortable lining up behind the president.

The interviews in suburbs outside Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Detroit and Denver are a warning light for the Republican president’s reelection campaign. Trump did not win a majority of female voters in 2016, but he won enough — notably winning white women by a roughly 10 percentage-point margin, according to the American National Election Studies survey — to help him eke out victories across the Rust Belt and take the White House.

Since then, there are few signs Trump has expanded his support among women. The 2018 midterms amounted to a strong showing of opposition among women in the suburbs, registering in unprecedented turnout overall, a Democratic House and a record number of women elected in statehouses across the country.

A continuing trend of women voting against Republicans could prove exceedingly difficult for Trump to overcome in his 2020 reelection bid.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:26:06am

re: #12 Dr Lizardo

Another movie that took the violence seriously was another Verhoeven film - Starship Troopers. Yeah, it wasn’t faithful to the book, but it plays as a satire of the military industrial complex, fascism, and soldiers as canon fodder.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:26:41am

re: #15 Targetpractice

Sadly, for every Deadpool, there’s an In the Mouth of Madness that will never see the light of day because the movie studios are afraid of investing in any film that could in any way be seen as a gamble.

Did you mean At The Mountains of Madness? The one Guillermo del Toro has wanted to do since, well, probably since he first became a film maker?

Hell yeah……I wanna see that too! Del Toro has said his idea is an outright straight adaptation of the Lovecraft novella.

David Fincher really wanted to do Rendezvous With Rama - but it’s been stuck in development hell for so long now, it’ll likely never get made. On the other hand, Denis Villeneuve’s Dune is due next year. So there’s that at least.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:28:23am

re: #17 lawhawk

Another movie that took the violence seriously was another Verhoeven film - Starship Troopers. Yeah, it wasn’t faithful to the book, but it plays as a satire of the military industrial complex, fascism, and soldiers as canon fodder.

Yeah, the book and the Heinlein novel are two very different things, but I can certainly appreciate the film as a great satire of militarism and fascism.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:31:14am

re: #18 Dr Lizardo

Did you mean At The Mountains of Madness? The one Guillermo del Toro has wanted to do since, well, probably since he first became a film maker?

Hell yeah……I wanna see that too! Del Toro has said his idea is an outright straight adaptation of the Lovecraft novella.

David Fincher really wanted to do Rendezvous With Rama - but it’s been stuck in development hell for so long now, it’ll like never get made. On the other hand, Denis Villeneuve’s Dune is due next year. So there’s that at least.

That would the one I meant, yeah. The Lovecraft-inspired films and names are starting to blend together in my head, which is probably a sign that I need a nap soon. But yeah, Del Toro has been adamant about making it to a hard “R” rating for years and the studios just refuse to touch it, largely because it’s really a niche film (Lovecraftian horror) and because he’s talking at least a 9 digit budget to make it properly. IIRC, the only reason Deadpool got made to an “R” rating was because Reynolds was willing to take a pay cut to make it happen. And even then, Fox held them to a tight budget…and actually cut the budget after the film had been greenlit.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:31:20am

re: #6 Targetpractice

What’s more disturbing about Robocop (1986) is that it is one of those films that had to be toned down to avoid an X Rating back then for its violent death scenes. The released R rated theatrical version was already too much for me thank you very much.

Shock factor as a goal is much harder these days for cinema thanks to easy access to god-awful 4Chan and other nefarious websites that can deliver the darkest human shit imaginable with just a few clicks.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:32:13am

re: #20 Charles Johnson

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To think he had a strategy would be to believe that the man can plan anything beyond his lunch order. He’s a bitter old man and he’s acting like one, lashing out at anything he views as offending him.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:32:54am

re: #18 Dr Lizardo

I’ve been shocked no one has been able to do Rendezvous with Rama. It’s among the classics of scifi.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:34:17am

re: #22 Rocky-in-Connecticut

What’s more disturbing about Robocop (1986) is that it is one of those films that had to be toned down to avoid an X Rating back then for its violent death scenes. The released R rated theatrical version was already too much for me thank you very much.

Shock factor as a goal is much harder these days for cinema thanks to easy access to god-awful 4Chan and other nefarious websites that can deliver the darkest human shit imaginable with just a few clicks.

Shit, when you’ve got a horror genre almost stuffed to the gills with nothing but torture porn these days, a film like Robocop is downright tame by comparison.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:34:32am

Well of course they did. The same names and groups keep coming up in all the worst decisions made in the past couple of years.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:35:05am

re: #23 Targetpractice

To think he had a strategy would be to believe that the man can plan anything beyond his lunch order. He’s a bitter old man and he’s acting like one, lashing out at anything he views as offending him.

Yep. People over analyze his ramblings. He’s just an asshole. It’s the simplest explanation.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:35:33am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:36:53am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:37:13am

re: #28 Charles Johnson

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He really believes the African American community likes him.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:37:49am

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Stefan needs to just marry his hand already.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:38:21am

re: #16 MsJ

This makes me wonder if that’s a trend everywhere. I’m in the Atlanta metro area and I’m curious if any of the red areas outside of Fulton county(where the city of Atlanta takes up a good portion, and usually votes mostly blue)have seen a change in support. I doubt it, but if the trend is happening here, the local dem apparatus needs to jump on that by using us liberal mommy people to appeal to them. We all want good lives for our families, it might, and it’s admittedly not a sure thing, be a way to disrupt the status quo.

The hate is making some people uncomfortable and anxious. The source of that isn’t liberals, and it’s blatantly obvious to anyone not a psychopath. What’s fucked up is it had to get this awful before they felt bad. I either want them to change their vote or stay home on Election Day if they still can’t bring themselves to come over to the Dark Side. If they do, I’ll bake some cookies.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:38:24am

re: #30 HappyWarrior

He really believes the African American community likes him.

He has one or two African American friends.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:39:36am

re: #33 Sir John Barron

He has one or two African American friends.

3. And they work for him.

Carson, Cubic Zirconia, and Polyester.

I guess Kanye might be a fourth.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:39:46am

re: #27 HappyWarrior

Yep. People over analyze his ramblings. He’s just an asshole. It’s the simplest explanation.

I’ve begun to think that some in the media, and some Democrats, pay too much attention to his tweets and other randomly bizarre utterances.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:39:59am

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:40:38am

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Basically what Stefan’s admitting is he shelled out a lot of money at the club last night and didn’t score even a pity fuck.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:40:52am

re: #21 Targetpractice

Lovecraftian cosmic horror can be a commercial and critical success, if it’s done right.

Look at Annihilation. Which is, let’s be brutally honest about it, “The Colour Out of Space”.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:41:20am

The truly sad and scary thing to think and even to say is that absent a genuine national crisis, this guy is pretty much free to bleat about whatever is on his mind. He seems not to have anything else to do.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:42:59am

re: #25 Targetpractice

Shit, when you’ve got a horror genre almost stuffed to the gills with nothing but torture porn these days, a film like Robocop is downright tame by comparison.

PREACH IT!

I LOVE a good psychological horror. You can scare the shit out of people without blood and gore. I hate that it’s becoming a lost art.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:44:04am

re: #24 lawhawk

I’ve been shocked no one has been able to do Rendezvous with Rama. It’s among the classics of scifi.

I would think that the critical and commercial success of The Martian would’ve made someone in Hollywood think, “Hmm….maybe hard sci-fi can make money!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:44:12am

re: #36 Rocky-in-Connecticut

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A Mom Anon  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:44:44am

re: #37 Targetpractice

I was still getting carded in my 30s. I also met my ,ahem, younger husband during my 30s, when I was dating a guy who was younger than he was. Guys my age were too whiny, lol. How old is this shitmuffin? He sounds like a bitter old man, can’t imagine why he can’t find a nice girl and settle down…..

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Sir John Barron  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:44:45am

re: #9 Targetpractice

His ego has apparently suffered a grievous injury, as he’s just attacking everybody remotely connected to Cummings. I guess having his little girl’s texts subpoenaed was like striking a raw nerve.

And I don’t think all the harassment, the presidential harassing other people, that is, is going to stimy the subpoenas.

FAux News actually started this latest round of gibberish abuse or so I’ve gathered.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:45:37am

re: #39 Sir John Barron

The truly sad and scary thing to think and even to say is that absent a genuine national crisis, this guy is pretty much free to bleat about whatever is on his mind. He seems not to have anything else to do.

There was a secret meeting a few weeks back. Heads of a couple airlines met with Trump and officials from Emirates, Qatar, UAE, and Eithdad airlines.

The complaint was that the Emirates airlines were getting subsidized on routes that were otherwise unprofitable, and could be a WTO violation. The American airlines in attendance, including United and JetBlue pursued this.

Delta skipped out on the meeting, and that was the source of the problem for Trump.

The group met in the Oval Office in what NBC News called an “‘Apprentice’-worthy showdown.” The outlet reported CEOs of American Airlines and United Airways were in attendance to air some grievances regarding what they believe are unfair practices by airlines in Qatar and the United Arab Emirates.

However — and much to Trump’s chagrin — Delta Airlines CEO Ed Bastian was absent, according to NBC News.

“The president kept going back to it,” a source who attended the meeting told NBC News regarding Bastian’s absence. “There was a lot of yelling.”

He thinks reality tv is how to run government.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:47:01am

re: #43 A Mom Anon

I was still getting carded in my 30s. I also met my ,ahem, younger husband during my 30s, when I was dating a guy who was younger than he was. Guys my age were too whiny, lol. How old is this shitmuffin? He sounds like a bitter old man, can’t imagine why he can’t find a nice girl and settle down…..

One time, at the age of 29, I got carded walking in to a local Casino.

Funny thing is I actually WORKED for said Casino at the time (though this particular incident happened when I was there off hours with some friends). The lady working security was a new hire and didn’t know who I was.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:47:42am

re: #43 A Mom Anon

I was still getting carded in my 30s. I also met my ,ahem, younger husband during my 30s, when I was dating a guy who was younger than he was. Guys my age were too whiny, lol. How old is this shitmuffin? He sounds like a bitter old man, can’t imagine why he can’t find a nice girl and settle down…..

Him, Jordan Peterson, & Ben Shapiro have a No Girls Allowed fort and they insist Jordan’s Dad make them hot pockets.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:48:14am

re: #40 Eclectic Cyborg

PREACH IT!

I LOVE a good psychological horror. You can scare the shit out of people without blood and gore. I hate that it’s becoming a lost art.

I think that partly explains the success of films from A24 as of late. Films like The Witch, Hereditary and Midsommar (and the upcoming The Lighthouse) are firmly planted in the psychological horror genre (indeed Midsommar is probably the closest think to the now-forgotten genre of “folk horror” since 1973’s The Wicker Man). Yes, there’s some blood and gore in those films, but it’s not the primary focus.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:48:21am

I still get carded now and then too. And most people think I look 20’s not early 30’s.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:49:32am

re: #26 lawhawk

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Well of course they did. The same names and groups keep coming up in all the worst decisions made in the past couple of years.

Fucking Facebook destabilizing western nations around the globe.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:50:43am

I hate it when he’s right.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:50:44am
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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:53:12am

re: #43 A Mom Anon

I was still getting carded in my 30s. I also met my ,ahem, younger husband during my 30s, when I was dating a guy who was younger than he was. Guys my age were too whiny, lol. How old is this shitmuffin? He sounds like a bitter old man, can’t imagine why he can’t find a nice girl and settle down…..

When I was in my late 30’s, I was regularly carded (and by regularly, I meant every time I went somewhere that served or sold liquor, which was a few times a year). It always made me smile.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:53:13am

I swear, if this isn’t one of the most American fucking headlines…

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William Lewis  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:53:56am

re: #19 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, the book and the Heinlein novel are two very different things, but I can certainly appreciate the film as a great satire of militarism and fascism.

To me it’s nothing but violence porn with a pretense of satire. Not quite as despicable as a Tarantino film, but close.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:54:31am

re: #52 lawhawk

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Says the man who repeatedly takes Putin at his word over our IC.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:54:56am

JFC

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:55:12am

re: #54 Eclectic Cyborg

I swear, if this isn’t one of the most American fucking headlines…

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More victims for the liberty tree. I’ll level here. I’m growing Anti 2A.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:55:35am

re: #57 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

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Racist prick.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:55:43am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:56:00am

I get carded often. Medicare is very strict.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:57:01am

TAKE A DEEP BREATH. Here is some brain bleach.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:57:08am

re: #49 HappyWarrior
I didn’t start looking my age til recently. Stress ages a person, but I am also pushing 60 now, so there’s that…I’ve always felt I had more in common with GenX than baby boomers. Which is why I was meeting younger guys back then, hanging out in the same music venues and doing distance cycling, hiking, etc. Guys my age were intimidated by me I think, because I had more energy and didn’t want to just sit around all the time. I also worked for REI at the time, the guys I worked with tended to be younger and did some of the same stuff I did. And we all liked the same bands and stuff. So most of my actual friends were guys too.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:57:37am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:59:45am

re: #64 Charles Johnson

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But not yours Vlad. Moscow is grest$

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 11:59:53am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:00:42pm

From the last thread:

re: #323 The Pie Overlord!

It’s still gaslighting. It’s typical of Trump to make grand sweeping shows of promising to “help” and then bragging about it while throwing some rolls of paper towel.

Exactly. If Trump actually cared about Baltimore and whether or not it has deep poverty problems, he’d announce in a speech or make a press release saying “I’m pushing for legislation X to address this crisis” or “I’ve released Executive Order Y directing [name agencies] to address this crisis.”

He hasn’t said a damn thing about “helping Baltimore.” Nikki Haley is straight up serving us Moose Turd Pie and expects us to like it and serve it to others. [hat tip to U. Utah Phillips]

(audio, 5:23)

Moose Turd Pie (Live)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:00:49pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:02:56pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump wants the nation’s intel agencies as his own personal Reichssicherheitshauptamt (RSHA).

en.wikipedia.org

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:06:12pm

re: #69 Dr Lizardo

Trump wants the nation’s intel agencies as his own personal Reichssicherheitshauptamt (RSHA).

en.wikipedia.org

That was one of the things Hitler changed. Loyalty to Hitler not to the nation or its Constitution but him. Trump is autocratic and anti democratic at his core. It’s what defines him.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:06:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:06:52pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And by strong he means an enabler who is loyal to him first not the nation.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:07:19pm

re: #71 MsJ

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Great catch, fuck.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:08:36pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:09:20pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

That was one of the things Hitler changed. Loyalty to Hitler not to the nation or its Constitution but him. Trump is autocratic and anti democratic at his core. It’s what defines him.

That’s right. The Wehrmacht took an oath of loyalty not to the German nation or constitution, but rather, a personal oath of loyalty to Adolf Hitler himself.

Trump would fuckin’ love that.

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plansbandc  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:09:39pm

re: #16 MsJ

How any woman could vote for the vile conman is beyond me.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:10:24pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Selfish pricks. Fuck Bernie too.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:10:34pm

re: #71 MsJ

Well, that’s quite the nightmarish thought.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:11:31pm

re: #75 Dr Lizardo

That’s right. The Wehrmacht took an oath of loyalty not to the German nation or constitution, but rather, a personal oath of loyalty to Adolf Hitler himself.

Trump would fuckin’ love that.

Yep. Man this is going to get worse before it gets better.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:11:47pm

re: #78 Dr Lizardo

Well, that’s quite the nightmarish thought.

Yet plausible.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:12:19pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:12:23pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

He really believes the African American community likes him.

I don’t think he actually believes that. He doesn’t want our votes or support. He wants to keep his racist base happy and that wouldn’t be compatible with trying to get Black voters.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:13:39pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

Yet plausible.

Is there anything not plausible with this crowd? There is no floor. There is no low. Only the new low/floor today. Tomorrow is always worse.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:15:32pm

Okay, in locally weird:

My wife just got an E-mail with my name on it but her E-mail address from the American Water Works Association (goes to Wikipedia).

The group is a not-for-profit which advocates for safe drinking water and public health. They were crucial in getting the Safe Drinking Water Act passed.

The group consists of scientists, environmentalists, equipment manufacturers, regulators, water system operators, and others.

I get why they might send me an E-mail for their training sessions or membership, since I am listed on the state licensing Website by my legal name and my E-mail address.

I don’t get why they would send it to my wife’s E-mail address.

From that E-mail:

We know that as an operator you are critical to providing an adequate and safe supply of water. AWWA is committed to your ongoing professional development and career advancement, and that’s why we’ve developed a robust resource library of tips, tools, expert advice and educational resources.

We have partnered with Steve Hernandez to leverage his 20-year experience as an operator. He currently holds Treatment 4 and Distribution Grade 5 Operator Certifications and has helped thousands of operators pass their certification exams through his company, WaterWisePro Training.

I already have my certification. The E-mail in the first line seems to acknowledge that (we know that as an operator…).

So why did they send it to my wife, and how did they get her E-mail address?

And their stuff is way too expensive for my poverty-ridden and unpaid butt anyway, so I’ll pass on both their training or membership in the organisation.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:16:19pm

re: #82 Patricia Kayden

I don’t think he actually believes that. He doesn’t want our votes or support. He wants to keep his racist base happy and that wouldn’t be compatible with trying to get Black voters.

I dunno. I think he’s that delusional and racist.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:16:49pm

re: #83 MsJ

Is there anything not plausible with this crowd? There is no floor. There is no low. Only the new low/floor today. Tomorrow is always worse.

These people make me so sick.

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plansbandc  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:17:38pm

re: #63 A Mom Anon

Looked very young for my age (great genes from my mother’s side of the family) until a couple of years ago. Death and two major illnesses in the family took that youthful sheen away.

I look much more natural yelling at clouds now.

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BigPapa  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:20:44pm

Some time ago I thought of the concept of ‘government on AM radio’ and here we are:

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:20:56pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

I dunno. I think he’s that delusional and racist.

Well, when one of your groups touts OJ Simpson as a famous black supporter, how can you go wrong? /s

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:21:16pm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:21:55pm

re: #88 BigPapa

Some time ago I thought of the concept of ‘government on AM radio’ and here we are:

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Jesus fucking christ.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:22:35pm

re: #43 A Mom Anon

I get carded at 40…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:26:24pm

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹

Well, when one of your groups touts OJ Simpson as a famous black supporter, how can you go wrong? /s

I don’t think they’ve ever used OJ. Don King otoh who is a convicted murder I do remember being touted by Bush-Cheney. I don’t think OJ is political and furthermore Hannity is buddies with Mark Fuhrman.

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danarchy  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:26:47pm

re: #92 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I get carded at 40…

I was at a grocery store the other day and there was a sign that said we card everyone, no exceptions. And it was true, there was a guy in front of me who had to be in his 70s that got carded for a bottle of wine.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:27:18pm

re: #88 BigPapa

Some time ago I thought of the concept of ‘government on AM radio’ and here we are:

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Government by Comment Section. But yeesh.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:27:29pm

re: #94 danarchy

I rarely get carded anywhere. It was kinda nice to be honest.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:29:10pm

re: #17 lawhawk

Another movie that took the violence seriously was another Verhoeven film - Starship Troopers. Yeah, it wasn’t faithful to the book, but it plays as a satire of the military industrial complex, fascism, and soldiers as canon fodder.

He admitted that he never finished reading the book.

Because you have to get about two thirds through it to find out that this military state did not seize power through a coup, it came about when the world’s governments collapsed at the end of WW3, leaving soldiers and POWs stranded wherever they were, thus ending the very notion of the nation-state.

And they left out the powered suits, which to me, was what the whole damn book was about.

Hope it gets a more true-to-the-novel remake some day

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:29:17pm

re: #88 BigPapa

Some time ago I thought of the concept of ‘government on AM radio’ and here we are:

EOIR Morning Briefings Received Via FOIA (goes to the Website of the Hoppcock Law Firm, an immigration law firm, more at the link):

In September, 2018 the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR) started producing this publication called the “EOIR Morning Briefing.” They’re not quite daily and they look like a collection of news stories. But there’s more.

Rather than just aggregate what the news is saying, these repeatedly include slanted and biased articles from publications like “Breitbart News,” which is otherwise famous for reporting about topics such as “Black Crime.”

In an October edition, the second article under the heading “Legal News” is an opinion piece from Kris Kobach claiming there is no right to ask for asylum in the United States:

The sidebar of the Website includes hints on what someone applying for visas or citizenship should do, and things that can get you in trouble with USCIS.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:30:18pm

Breitbart is influencing DOJ policy. Goddamn it all.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:31:18pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:31:30pm

re: #43 A Mom Anon

I was still getting carded in my 30s. I also met my ,ahem, younger husband during my 30s, when I was dating a guy who was younger than he was. Guys my age were too whiny, lol. How old is this shitmuffin? He sounds like a bitter old man, can’t imagine why he can’t find a nice girl and settle down…..

My wife and I get carded now (state law says card everyone).

Someone in a store once noted to me that is used as a pick-up line for women, asking to see their ID for their age (implying they are younger than they look).

The downside of that is a creeper can quickly note details such as your address.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:32:18pm

re: #99 HappyWarrior

Breitbart is influencing DOJ policy. Goddamn it all.

The Mercers will be pleased.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:33:15pm

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s still a virgin stuck in Incel mode.

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BigPapa  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:34:11pm

re: #100 lawhawk

That’s probably gonna get challenged. But Racist Grandpa was just alluding to States Rights yesterday in Virginia.

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danarchy  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:37:39pm

re: #37 Targetpractice

Basically what Stefan’s admitting is he shelled out a lot of money at the club last night and didn’t score even a pity fuck.

Apparently he is married with kids, and an MRA, how much must his wife hate herself.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:38:34pm

re: #100 lawhawk

JUST IN: California Governor Gavin Newsom has signed a bill into law that requires presidential and gubernatorial candidates to submit their most recent five years of tax returns in order to qualify for primary ballots in the state.

There’s no way Trump will do that - so either he’ll have to be a write-in candidate or else he’ll have to take it to SCOTUS pronto.

Now….if Pennsylvania or Ohio passed a similar law - well, the Trump Twitter meltdown would truly be a sight to behold.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:40:27pm

re: #105 danarchy

Apparently he is married with kids, and an MRA, how much must his wife hate herself.

Misery loves company I guess but I feel bad for those kids. The dude is a professional douche nozzle.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:42:56pm

LONDON (Reuters) - The wife of Dubai ruler Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al-Maktoum has applied for a “forced marriage protection order” in England’s High Court in relation to one of her two children.

Princess Haya bint al-Hussein, the 45-year-old Jordanian daughter of late King Hussein and half-sister to King Abdullah, also applied for a “non-molestation order,” which protects from harassment or threats. It was not clear who this order was in relation to.

At the High Court of England and Wales, she also applied for wardship, which means a child is placed in the hands of the court for major decisions.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:45:19pm

re: #100 lawhawk

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I still think this shit is too clever by half, will depress turnout and is thus likely to lead to GOP gains in close CA House races in 2020.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:45:44pm

Very interesting.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:49:57pm

re: #100 lawhawk

The Trump Whisperer weighs in.

It might be, but not by you, Sekulow, since you don’t have standing (unless you’re running for Governor of California or President, if so, good luck with that).

States by the Constitution set their own election requirements. They may add to, but not take away from, federal law.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:50:06pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

Very interesting.

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That’s why we need to press the point that not only is Trumps policy obscene, it’s unpopular too. The only people who want it are Trump cultists who are far from the border and interacting with immigrants yet the most paranoid.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:50:49pm

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹

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The Trump Whisperer weighs in.

It might be, but not by you, Sekulow, since you don’t have standing (unless you’re running for Governor of California or President, if so, good luck with that).

States by the Constitution set their own election requirements. They may add to, but not take away from, federal law.

10th is a bitch eh Jay?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:51:21pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:52:02pm

re: #105 danarchy

Apparently he is married with kids, and an MRA, how much must his wife hate herself.

Stefan Molyneaux is an extremist libertarian. Women are property obtained under contract.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:52:42pm

re: #109 goddamnedfrank

I still think this shit is too clever by half, will depress turnout and is thus likely to lead to GOP gains in close CA House races in 2020.

I think it’s necessary and having it pass in CA is a good first step.

I was imagining Texas trying to pass a counter bill to help Trump: All candidates must show proof of at least one extramarital affair, preferably resulting in the current spouse.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:54:08pm

re: #116 Belafon

I think it’s necessary and having it pass in CA is a good first step.

I was imagining Texas trying to pass a counter bill to help Trump: All candidates must show proof of at least one extramarital affair, preferably resulting in the current spouse.

What I’d really like to see - though I know it’s not going to happen - is for PA, WI and OH to pass a law like California just did.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:54:28pm

re: #114 Charles Johnson

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Republican voters are racists. I have no problem saying that.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:58:18pm

On California’s new disclosure law:

Says the racist with the Rhodesia flag emoji in his name. For some of us at least, we recognise that visual dog whistle.

You know what would really make conservatives howl? If that emoji was eliminated from the choices you could make.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:58:30pm

Trump has no chance of winning California. I doubt he’d even give a shit about not being on the ballot.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2019 • 12:58:55pm

LOL

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:01:37pm

Lre: #120 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump has no chance of winning California. I doubt he’d even give a shit about not being on the ballot.

I dunno. He seems convinced he would be winning there if not for voter fraud.

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:03:13pm

apparently mitch doesnt like being called “moscow mitch”

imagine not liking a nickname thrust upon you

i wonder if it’s because he prefers ‘putin’s mitch’

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:03:47pm

re: #120 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump has no chance of winning California. I doubt he’d even give a shit about not being on the ballot.

Lincoln was not on the ballot in most southern states and still won

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:04:12pm

re: #114 Charles Johnson

Only a matter of time before Trump utters the N word at his rallies and the crowd will orgasm.

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:04:12pm
“There’s no strategy. I have no strategy. There’s zero strategy.”

— President Trump, quoted by The Hill

he just caught up to what the rest of us always knew

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:06:20pm

re: #119 Anymouse 🌹

On California’s new disclosure law:

Says the racist with the Rhodesia flag emoji in his name. For some of us at least, we recognise that visual dog whistle.

You know what would really make conservatives howl? If that emoji was eliminated from the choices you could make.

“What does he have to hide?”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:07:02pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

Republican voters are racists. I have no problem saying that.

I make some exception for people like those in my town, who only have access to one paper which vets all bad news about Trump out, never saw “The Apprentice” and only heard the parts about “great businessman” without hearing the parts about “bankruptcy.”

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:08:55pm

…more than half of the Trump administration’s trade-war aid for farmers went to just one-tenth of the recipients in the program, Bloomberg reports.

must i say ‘quelle surprise’?

some of the reactions:

- Anyone who thought it would be different than this is an idiot.

- socialism for the rich and scraps for the rest of us.

- so 10% got 50%. That’s better than the “tax cut” where 1% got 90% (or something like that).

- You only get what you give, I guess. And these gullible fools gave their vote to a conman and got played.

- They screw them over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over…and yet they keep voting Republican.

- Yeah, I really don’t understand why these people can’t pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. Clearly the problem is that they are bad at business. They need to quit producing things at a price point people don’t want and quit sucking on the teat of big government. Or something. /s

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wrenchwench  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:10:19pm

re: #128 Anymouse 🌹

I make some exception for people like those in my town, who only have access to one paper which vets all bad news about Trump out, never saw “The Apprentice” and only heard the parts about “great businessman” without hearing the parts about “bankruptcy.”

One must always make exception for genuine ignorance. We have it in abundance, EVERYWHERE. It extremely difficult to discern the differences between genuine ignorance and all the other kinds.

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:10:35pm

re: #123 DangerMan

apparently mitch doesnt like being called “moscow mitch”

imagine not liking a nickname thrust upon you

i wonder if it’s because he prefers ‘putin’s mitch’

now that the internet knows mitch hates the name, ‘Moscow Mitch’ is going to become even more popular than Devin Nunes’ Cow

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:11:10pm

re: #128 Anymouse 🌹

His tweets are racist. People in your town who support him must have read or heard about his racist tweets and racist comments.

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:13:31pm

re: #128 Anymouse 🌹

I make some exception for people like those in my town, who only have access to one paper which vets all bad news about Trump out, never saw “The Apprentice” and only heard the parts about “great businessman” without hearing the parts about “bankruptcy.”

you live there and still manage to be fairly well clued in

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:14:40pm

re: #119 Anymouse 🌹

I believe that’s actually a Nigerian flag. His Twitter is replete with pro-Trump, Conservative blather. Odd since Trump called African countries “sh*thole”.

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Old Liberal  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:15:57pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

More victims for the liberty tree. I’ll level here. I’m growing Anti 2A.

Well if Scalia hadn’t ignored the first clause of that amendment there would be a lot more people still alive.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:16:58pm

re: #132 Patricia Kayden

His tweets are racist. People in your town who support him must have read or heard about his racist tweets and racist comments.

The newspaper doesn’t print his tweets. The few people who have satellite television might have seen them on television programmes. Twitter is not available here since there is no cell service and almost no one can afford Internet service.

I tried that once, asking people if they’d heard about Trump’s latest tweet. After I got “what’s a tweet” and explained, I got “what’s a Twitter.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:19:28pm

re: #128 Anymouse 🌹

I make some exception for people like those in my town, who only have access to one paper which vets all bad news about Trump out, never saw “The Apprentice” and only heard the parts about “great businessman” without hearing the parts about “bankruptcy.”

It’s hard for me to say this believe me because I have some albeit not close family who voted for him. But I really believe racism or indifference to it is his driving force.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:20:35pm

re: #130 wrenchwench

One must always make exception for genuine ignorance. We have it in abundance, EVERYWHERE. It extremely difficult to discern the differences between genuine ignorance and all the other kinds.

I just don’t see how anyone sees this guy and thinks yeah that’s presidential. It’s not a mere difference of ideology. It’s basic right and wrong.

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sagehen  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:20:54pm

re: #100 lawhawk

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So William Weld just picked up 172 delegates to next year’s Republican convention…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:22:23pm

re: #139 sagehen

So William Weld just picked up 172 delegates to next year’s Republican convention…

Weld won’t beat Trump but he can and I think will hobble him. I’m hoping Kasich or Hogan or Baker do it but I doubt it.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:23:24pm

re: #133 DangerMan

you live there and still manage to be fairly well clued in

I pay 10% of my little income to have an Internet connexion. That is the only way I can stay clued in.

Both me and my wife are willing to forego things like meals to pay to have Internet service.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:23:47pm

His ugly comments about McCains POW status were all over. I dunno the full situation everywhere but he ran an explicitly racist campaign.

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Old Liberal  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:24:04pm

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹

From the last thread:

Exactly. If Trump actually cared about Baltimore and whether or not it has deep poverty problems, he’d announce in a speech or make a press release saying “I’m pushing for legislation X to address this crisis” or “I’ve released Executive Order Y directing [name agencies] to address this crisis.”

He hasn’t said a damn thing about “helping Baltimore.” Nikki Haley is straight up serving us Moose Turd Pie and expects us to like it and serve it to others. [hat tip to U. Utah Phillips]

(audio, 5:23)

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If only Cummings would lay off Jarvanka, drumpf would declare Baltimore an incredible oasis due to drumpf, and let them develop nuclear weapons. Another victory for der Fuehrer.

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wrenchwench  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:24:14pm

re: #138 HappyWarrior

I just don’t see how anyone sees this guy and thinks yeah that’s presidential. It’s not a mere difference of ideology. It’s basic right and wrong.

It’s frustrating to watch people decide they don’t care because of some nuance of disagreement.

Or nuance of agreement.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:25:20pm

re: #136 Anymouse 🌹

The newspaper doesn’t print his tweets. The few people who have satellite television might have seen them on television programmes. Twitter is not available here since there is no cell service and almost no one can afford Internet service.

I tried that once, asking people if they’d heard about Trump’s latest tweet. After I got “what’s a tweet” and explained, I got “what’s a Twitter.”

you’ve mentioned often that twitter requires a cell phone, which has always confused me since I didn’t/don’t need one for my twitter account.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:26:31pm

re: #134 Patricia Kayden

I believe that’s actually a Nigerian flag. His Twitter is replete with pro-Trump, Conservative blather. Odd since Trump called African countries “sh*thole”.

vox.com
(The racist patches on Dylann Roof’s jacket explained)

There is no actual emoji for Rhodesia. Their former flag however is Nigeria’s flag with Rhodesia’s arms in the centre.

You can’t tell me there are that many conservative supporters of Nigeria.

Moreover, a Rhodesia flag the size of an emoji would have the arms the size of one pixel.

That’s why they’re called “dog whistles.”

The same reason Nazis in Europe fly the Confederate Battle Flag, &c.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:26:40pm

re: #144 wrenchwench

It’s frustrating to watch people decide they don’t care because of some nuance of disagreement.

My Dad asked me if he should dislike someone upon finding out they’re a Trump supporter. I asked him to name what he disliked most about Trump. Nothing was explicitly ideological. Trump’s ideology if you can call it one is disgraceful but his ethos is against everything we are taught to be whether we have religious or secular upbringings. My answer is yes btw.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:27:29pm

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

you’ve mentioned often that twitter requires a cell phone, which has always confused me since I didn’t/don’t need one for my twitter account.

I don’t think you do. I didn’t use my cellphone to sign up when I briefly had an account. Ditto my FB account.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:29:37pm

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

you’ve mentioned often that twitter requires a cell phone, which has always confused me since I didn’t/don’t need one for my twitter account.

I am aware there is a computer application for Twitter as well. That still requires Internet service to use.

I am still one of only two people in town with Internet service (the other two accounts being the library and the village hall).

When the fire brigade was offered free Internet service as part of an upgrade the village negotiated with our monopoly provider, they said “no thanks, why do we need Internet service?”

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Old Liberal  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:32:14pm

re: #76 plansbandc

How any woman could vote for the vile conman is beyond me.

Well some are quite ok with kidnapping and abuse of brown children and white teenagers

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:39:47pm

re: #109 goddamnedfrank

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:40:31pm

re: #138 HappyWarrior

I just don’t see how anyone sees this guy and thinks yeah that’s presidential. It’s not a mere difference of ideology. It’s basic right and wrong.

it’s also
- decency. dignity, presidential-ness

trump has basically shat on the entire country and 40% say thank you can i have some more

he’s demeaned the institutional office. fortunately he hasn’t destroyed it.
he will leave one heck of a mess for the next one to clean up

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:42:33pm

re: #141 Anymouse 🌹

I pay 10% of my little income to have an Internet connexion. That is the only way I can stay clued in.

Both me and my wife are willing to forego things like meals to pay to have Internet service.

and im assuming you do because you think it’s important to be reliably informed
(and maybe a little so you can show off pix of your scythe, sickles, smart, trilby, etc)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:43:15pm

re: #152 DangerMan

it’s also
- decency. dignity, presidential-ness

trump has basically shat on the entire country and 40% say thank you can i have some more

he’s demeaned the institutional office. fortunately he hasn’t destroyed it.
he will leave one heck of a mess for the next one to clean up

Yes. I mean I’m sorry but you only need to see excerpts of his speeches to know how shitty a person he is and how his campaign relies on resentment.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:46:34pm

It’s tough I concede. The same cousin who helps my elderly widowed grand aunt is also indifferent or tacitly okay with separating children his grandchildren’s age. The same cousin I traveled to our ancestral home village with reads Breitbart uncritically. The same friend is okay with Trump insulting what made our home a great place to live in.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:47:18pm

Racism doesn’t always wear a robe or sieg heil.

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sagehen  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:47:38pm

re: #153 DangerMan

and im assuming you do because you think it’s important to be reliably informed
(and maybe a little so you can show off pix of your scythe, sickles, smart, trilby, etc)

It’s because he has hobbies and interests that involve communicating with people way beyond walking distance.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:53:03pm

I KNOW NOTTINK!!!!!

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:54:03pm

re: #151 lawhawk

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Matthew is smart but I think this is an example of wishful thinking masquerading as conventional wisdom. Trump wasn’t on the ballot in 2018 and a lot of the seats Dems gained were close af and only tipped to our side because of high overall turnout. Depressed turnout generally favors Republicans and I see no reason to assume keeping Trump off the ballot won’t enrage Republican voters and drive their numbers up while demotivating voters who would otherwise be eager to cast a vote against him by taking away their sense of contributing to his defeat.

IOW this feels good but hasn’t actually been properly studied or gamed out.

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Old Liberal  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:54:36pm

A few days ago my brother sent me a link to aCSpan book event for a book named American Carnage. The author is from Politico I think, anyway the author said (paraphrase) “We (journalists) were wrong in our analysis of the Tea Party in 2010. We completely missed that it was a movement based on anger because people said they didn’t recognize their country anymore, not about deficits”. So who didn’t know in 2010 that the TP was racist reactionaries? Is this guy one idiot or is all of journalism incompetent? They keep making excuses for what is right in front of them.

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mmmirele  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:54:56pm

re: #17 lawhawk

Another movie that took the violence seriously was another Verhoeven film - Starship Troopers. Yeah, it wasn’t faithful to the book, but it plays as a satire of the military industrial complex, fascism, and soldiers as canon fodder.

I wish Heinlein had lived to see the Verhoeven film. It might have made his head explode.

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:55:55pm

re: #158 The Pie Overlord!

I KNOW NOTTINK!!!!!

President Trump defends Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell from “Russian asset” charge: “Mitch McConnell is a man that knows less about Russia and Russian influence than even Donald Trump and I know nothing”

what a fucking brilliant stunningly idiotic thing for a president to say out loud in front of cameras
(proudly no less)

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wrenchwench  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:57:08pm

re: #158 The Pie Overlord!

I KNOW NOTTINK!!!!!

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That’s exactly how it played in my head.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:59:36pm

re: #158 The Pie Overlord!

I KNOW NOTTINK!!!!!

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Maybe he should have Presidential Daily Briefings every day.

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austin_blue  Jul 30, 2019 • 1:59:50pm

re: #158 The Pie Overlord!

I KNOW NOTTINK!!!!!

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stoneketle just called him Sgt. Schultz.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:01:17pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

“Excuse me, Mr. President. I’ve got The African American Community holding on line 3.”

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:02:07pm

re: #164 Dread Pirate

Maybe he should have Presidential Daily Briefings every day.

just helpin out

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:03:15pm

re: #166 Blind Frog Belly White

“Excuse me, Mr. President. I’ve got The African American Community holding on line 3.”

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dang, look at the ledge sculpted by his hair
that’s gotta be a lot of hair spray - im guessing a can a day habit easy

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:05:21pm

This is my rep. She nailed it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:05:27pm

re: #168 DangerMan

dang, look at the ledge sculpted by his hair
that’s gotta be a lot of hair spray - im guessing a can a day habit easy

He better stay away from fireworks, unless he wants his hair to go up like Michael Jackson’s.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:05:46pm

re: #153 DangerMan

and im assuming you do because you think it’s important to be reliably informed
(and maybe a little so you can show off pix of your scythe, sickles, smart, trilby, etc)

You got me. It’s really the photographs. /s

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:07:16pm

re: #168 DangerMan

dang, look at the ledge sculpted by his hair
that’s gotta be a lot of hair spray - im guessing a can a day habit easy

That piss-flavored cotton candy combover is his very own Hitler mustache.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:08:07pm
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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:08:16pm

re: #171 Anymouse 🌹

You got me. It’s really the photographs. /s

if you had cats the internet would have overloaded long ago ;-) /s

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:08:47pm

re: #169 The Pie Overlord!

This is my rep. She nailed it.

What is the constant BS from conservatives (including that thread) on “what about the $15 billion” Trump sent to Baltimore?

Are they too lazy to think up a good lie?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:08:59pm

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

Guys like Molynaux fixate on young, inexperienced girls, because the idea of interacting with women scares the piss out of them.

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:09:31pm

re: #175 Anymouse 🌹

What is the constant BS from conservatives (including that thread) on “what about the $15 billion” Trump sent to Baltimore?

Are they too lazy to think up a good lie?

he is proof they dont need to think up a good one

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:10:23pm

To Trump, “African American Community” is just code for “Diamond and Silk”.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:11:14pm

re: #174 DangerMan

if you had cats the internet would have overloaded long ago ;-) /s

Unfortunately, our cat died.

Felix Randomkitty: 2009-2017 (from the right hand column of Little Green Footballs, April 28, 2017. The missing picture in the article was our guinea pig, which I deleted from the LGF library)

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:11:47pm

re: #176 Blind Frog Belly White

Guys like Molynaux fixate on young, inexperienced girls, because the idea of interacting with women scares the piss out of them.

ima brag here:
mrs dm is 61 and looks exactly the same as the day i met her in january of 1977
and not through any rose colored glasses

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:12:14pm

and that’s just the ones they admit to separating

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:12:52pm

re: #178 Eclectic Cyborg

To Trump, “African American Community” is just code for “Diamond and Silk”.

and that guy they made me put in my cabinet, whats-his-name

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:14:12pm

re: #165 austin_blue

stoneketle just called him Sgt. Schultz.

So did I.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:14:13pm

re: #182 DangerMan

and that guy they made me put in my cabinet, whats-his-name

And that girl who likes me and Hitler, Candace Owens.//

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:16:59pm

re: #179 Anymouse 🌹

Unfortunately, our cat died.

Felix Randomkitty: 2009-2017 (from the right hand column of Little Green Footballs, April 28, 2017. The missing picture in the article was our guinea pig, which I deleted from the LGF library)

‘dangerkitty’. i approve
ours also likes to sleep in or on a suitcase

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:17:42pm

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:17:48pm

re: #178 Eclectic Cyborg

To Trump, “African American Community” is just code for “Diamond and Silk”.

Well, there’s also Kanye West.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:18:05pm

re: #176 Blind Frog Belly White

Guys like Molynaux fixate on young, inexperienced girls, because the idea of interacting with women scares the piss out of them.

Between him and Jordan Peterson, its a whole bunch of look at how great I am because I have a penis. And they whine about identity politics. If they ever had to make it on their own merits rather than this stupid female resentment complex they’re a part of, they would be nothing.

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jaunte  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:18:35pm

re: #183 MsJ

Maybe he shouldn’t have had the translator in the meeting with Putin tear up her notes, and someone could explain to him what’s going on with the Russians.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:21:29pm

re: #144 wrenchwench

It’s frustrating to watch people decide they don’t care because of some nuance of disagreement.

Or nuance of agreement.

From Upton Sinclair: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:22:34pm

re: #186 Eclectic Cyborg

Well, DUH!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:22:49pm

re: #190 Hecuba’s daughter

From Upton Sinclair: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

Well that explains Fox News.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:23:06pm

re: #139 sagehen

So William Weld just picked up 172 delegates to next year’s Republican convention…

They won’t be seated.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:24:13pm

Wait he thinks saying McConnell knows less about Russia than he is a good thing? If I’m DSCC I use that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:24:27pm

re: #187 Anymouse 🌹

Well, there’s also Kanye West.

and Tiger Woods

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:26:32pm

re: #180 DangerMan

ima brag here:
mrs dm is 61 and looks exactly the same as the day i met her in january of 1977
and not through any rose colored glasses

Mrs. FBW doesn’t look the way she did when I met her in September of 1975. Age and gravity and experience are written onto her face and her physique. She looks 45 years older, and I still can’t stop myself just stopping and staring, all the time.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:26:36pm

re: #183 MsJ

So did I.

Wow.

(video, 0:46)

Did Trump just throw McConnell under a bus in that?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:26:39pm
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austin_blue  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:28:10pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

and Tiger Woods

At least Tiger got something out of it (a PMF).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:28:28pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:28:43pm

re: #196 Blind Frog Belly White

Mrs. FBW doesn’t look the way she did when I met her in September of 1975. Age and gravity and experience are written onto her face and her physique. She looks 45 years older, and I still can’t stop myself just stopping and staring, all the time.

My wife doesn’t look the same (to others) since I met her in 2007 for the first time. To me she still looks like the woman I fell in love with.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:29:31pm

re: #197 Anymouse 🌹

Wow.

(video, 0:46)

Did Trump just throw McConnell under a bus in that?

Well…if he doesn’t know anything about Russian influence then maybe he should allow those who do, who believe our IC and FBI about it, to, you know, do something about it.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:31:00pm

re: #169 The Pie Overlord!

This is my rep. She nailed it.

Yes, why is this so difficult for the media and everyone to understand?

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austin_blue  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:31:51pm

re: #202 Sir John Barron

Well…if he doesn’t know anything about Russian influence then maybe he should allow those who do, who believe our IC and FBI about it, to, you know, do something about it.

Ding, ding, ding!

Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:33:21pm

re: #201 Anymouse 🌹

My wife doesn’t look the same (to others) since I met her in 2007 for the first time. To me she still looks like the woman I fell in love with.

I had a six pack when I met my wife. I was 25 (I’ll be 38 in a few weeks). I still have the six pack but it’s now behind a layer of fatty tissue. I haven’t reached beer belly stage yet and I still work out regularly, though not quite as obsessively as I did when I was younger.

Ms. Cyborg on the other hand, has lost over 85 lbs since we married and in my opinion looks as good as she ever has.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:34:21pm

Well, power went out about 1pm local time. And I’ve, shades of Phillypretzel, relocated to the King of Prussia Wegmans to find A/C and internet. (Also here to play cribbage in an hour or so as well.)

Looks like this is a bad optics day for the GOP, has Chuck Todd commented yet on that?

I thought not.
//

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Sir John Barron  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:35:40pm

re: #169 The Pie Overlord!

This is my rep. She nailed it.

Member of media writes book in 2027 says “We had no idea DJT was just raging about the investigation of Ivanka and the subpoenas and wasn’t genuinely criticizing the government of Baltimore City….”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:37:52pm

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Republican Party is the greatest threat to democracy in the United States.

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jaunte  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:37:54pm

Is this the scythe users discussion group?

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:38:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:39:20pm

re: #210 Patricia Kayden

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Play Feckless Wanker, Lindsay. Good boy!

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:41:46pm

re: #210 Patricia Kayden

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jaunte  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:43:01pm
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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:44:18pm

re: #196 Blind Frog Belly White

Mrs. FBW doesn’t look the way she did when I met her in September of 1975. Age and gravity and experience are written onto her face and her physique. She looks 45 years older, and I still can’t stop myself just stopping and staring, all the time.

that too, though in all seriousness, mrs dm has not seemed to age

we dated for 4 years in college. then lost touch for 28 years
when we re-met in 2008 it was like the day after i had last seen her
i told her i wasnt letting her get away a second time and i didnt

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DangerMan  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:45:37pm

re: #202 Sir John Barron

Well…if he doesn’t know anything about Russian influence then maybe he should allow those who do, who believe our IC and FBI about it, to, you know, do something about it.

he does know. he’s ignoring it

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austin_blue  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:45:59pm

re: #212 MsJ

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Useful idiots is the best way you can describe them.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:46:15pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:47:42pm

re: #205 Eclectic Cyborg

I had a six pack when I met my wife. I was 25 (I’ll be 38 in a few weeks). I still have the six pack but it’s now behind a layer of fatty tissue. I haven’t reached beer belly stage yet and I still work out regularly, though not quite as obsessively as I did when I was younger.

Ms. Cyborg on the other hand, has lost over 85 lbs since we married and in my opinion looks as good as she ever has.

My wife lost quite a bit of weight after her diabetes was discovered at a flu shot clinic across the street at the church. (They let atheists in for flu shots.)

While her brother calls her by the nickname “Strawberry” (due to the colour of her hair when she was a young adult), her hair went grey in her late twenties and I’ve only seen her with grey hair (or purple or green when she dyes it that way).

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:47:58pm

re: #213 jaunte

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But it’s it ok for the DNI to be located up trumps ass?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:49:03pm

Hell Radcliffe has only been on the Intelligence Conmittee since this year.

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jaunte  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:49:25pm

re: #219 MsJ

“I know nothing!”

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:49:33pm

re: #196 Blind Frog Belly White

Mrs. FBW doesn’t look the way she did when I met her in September of 1975. Age and gravity and experience are written onto her face and her physique. She looks 45 years older, and I still can’t stop myself just stopping and staring, all the time.

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ So sweet.

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austin_blue  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:50:53pm

re: #213 jaunte

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It’s almost like as if they specifically didn’t want a toady with his nose firmly planted up the President’s ass.

Fancy that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:51:14pm

re: #214 DangerMan

that too, though in all seriousness, mrs dm has not seemed to age

we dated for 4 years in college. then lost touch for 28 years
when we re-met in 2008 it was like the day after i had last seen her
i told her i wasnt letting her get away a second time and i didnt

Huh. That’s kinda funny, because Mrs. FBW and I met the first week of Freshman year, dated very heavily from mid freshman year until the end of sophomore year, then she broke up with me and, apart from a few rematches, maintained a friendly distance till I was about to turn 30, when she proposed.

Long boring story. It can be a bad thing to meet The One when you’re too young and screwed up to know or accept it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:51:38pm

re: #222 MsJ

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ So sweet.

She’s my Kryptonite.

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jaunte  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:52:10pm

re: #223 austin_blue

As if there were some things that needed to be insulated from pure political hackery.

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jaunte  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:54:19pm

Oh.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:54:52pm

I’m definitely thinking this could be a set up. Radcliffe falls & they go to Nunes and present him as “experienced” since he was chair of the intel committee.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:55:38pm

re: #227 jaunte

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Oh.

And by monitor, Kim Jong Un and Trump will be Skyping with Dennis Rodman tonight.//

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austin_blue  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:56:08pm

re: #220 HappyWarrior

Hell Radcliffe has only been on the Intelligence Conmittee since this year.

Yeah, but he’s a reliable Texas wingnut and Tea Party idiot, perfect for the position, and the Turtle will fast track him.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:56:25pm

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What country is Dowless from? I was reliably informed that only undocumented immigrants engage in voter fraud.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:57:20pm

re: #223 austin_blue

It’s almost like as if they specifically didn’t want a toady with his nose firmly planted up the President’s ass.

Fancy that.

Extensive national security experience will be defined as “mayor” and “representative” by conservatives. They do not care about the law, and we apparently can’t force them to follow it.

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Old Liberal  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:58:15pm

re: #220 HappyWarrior

Hell Radcliffe has only been on the Intelligence Conmittee since this year.

Do laws matter? I think not in the Senate of Moscow Mitch.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 2:58:29pm

re: #230 austin_blue

Yeah, but he’s a reliable Texas wingnut and Tea Party idiot, perfect for the position, and the Turtle will fast track him.

Yeah goddamn this bothers me so much. I bet my old international relations professor would be so horrified by this. She was a huge hawk but she valued knowledge and not hackery.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:00:55pm

re: #233 Old Liberal

Do laws matter? I think not in the Senate of Moscow Mitch.

I know, I know. Full disclosure here. My mother worked for an intelligence agency for years. I’m a dove but I know and understand the importance of our IC intimately. Trump infuriates me so much with his bullshit on this. This isn’t a position for yes men and women.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:01:38pm

Dems Can Win If They’re More Like Warren G. Harding. Good Call, New York Times! (Wonkette)

The New York Times ran a forgettable, anodyne “what folks in a swing district think” piece today, and even though we just finished reading it, it’s already vanishing from our memory as surely as the hint of citrus flavor in a can of La Croix water. By coincidence, it also left us mildly gassy. The piece spends far too long quoting people pretending to talk like the pundits on TV, in the interest of explaining Today’s Dem Voters are looking for “pragmatism” in a candidate. It wraps up with the bizarre recommendation that Democrats may well defeat the worst president ever by adopting a campaign slogan from one of the previous holders of the title. That thought came via a 28-year-old local committee member, Andrew Hayman, in Upper Darby, Pennsylvania.

Mr. Hayman said Democrats’ strongest message in 2020 ought to be about expunging the Trump years and returning the country to stability. Democrats, he said, should take a page from President Warren G. Harding, a Republican, and promise a return to normalcy.

“If we just talk about running the government, I think we win on that,” he said.

(more)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:03:15pm

re: #236 Anymouse 🌹

Can you say TEAPOT DOME boys and girls?

I knew you could!

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austin_blue  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:03:36pm

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Yeah goddamn this bothers me so much. I bet my old international relations professor would be so horrified by this. She was a huge hawk but she valued knowledge and not hackery.

Hackery is the order of the day with this bunch. If you don’t fawn over Dear Leader and his team of incompetent thugs, you are dead meat.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:04:46pm

I’d take Harding over Trump. Harding condemned lynching on Southern soil. Snark aside, don’t tell me I should have a dirt sandwich because we have a shit sandwich.

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Old Liberal  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:04:48pm

re: #236 Anymouse 🌹

Dems Can Win If They’re More Like Warren G. Harding. Good Call, New York Times! (Wonkette)

(more)

Normalcy is gone. We need to open a can of whoopass and bury every last fucking turd. Because otherwise we’ll fight them again.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:05:30pm

re: #238 austin_blue

Hackery is the order of the day with this bunch. If you don’t fawn over Dear Leader and his team of incompetent thugs, you are dead meat.

It’s really one of the worst things about how he governs. I can’t stress that enough.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:05:38pm

re: #240 Old Liberal

Normalcy is gone. We need to open a can of whoopass and bury every last fucking turd. Because otherwise we’ll fight them again.

We will never see 2015 again. We’re stuck with the future, so we might as well make it a wild one.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:08:22pm

re: #237 Joe Bacon 🌹

Can you say TEAPOT DOME boys and girls?

I knew you could!

There’s more than that (video, 3:07) to remember him by.

Warren G. Harding’s Love Letters: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:08:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:11:14pm

re: #244 Patricia Kayden

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If he was open to ideas, he wouldn’t be blocking. He knows that strong election security would mean the end not just for Trump and the GOP Senate Majority but himself. He’s afraid of his and his equal crooked wife losing their nest egg- the American taxpayer.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:12:03pm

re: #242 Decatur Deb

We will never see 2015 again. We’re stuck with the future, so we might as well make it a wild one.

It was great having Obama as president. It will be better when having a non-white-male president only gets an unimportant minority worked up.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:13:31pm

re: #246 Belafon

It was great having Obama as president. It will be better when having a non-white-male president only gets an unimportant minority worked up.

Let’s just go with the content of her character…

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:14:32pm

Another one.

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Old Liberal  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:19:15pm

What year did the US start planning for what came after the destruction of Germany and Japan?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:20:26pm

re: #249 Old Liberal

What year did the US start planning for what came after the destruction of Germany and Japan?

I think around 1944 at least for Germany since that is when the Morganthau Plan was drafted.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:20:35pm

re: #249 Old Liberal

What year did the US start planning for what came after the destruction of Germany and Japan?

Early 1939, if they had their shit together.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:21:03pm

re: #251 Decatur Deb

Early 1939, if they had their shit together.

Narrator: They did not.

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austin_blue  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:21:59pm

re: #249 Old Liberal

What year did the US start planning for what came after the destruction of Germany and Japan?

1944.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:22:59pm

re: #248 MsJ

Another one.

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She can’t vote—a more important one (Happy’s Rep who flipped a red seat blue)

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:24:35pm

re: #236 Anymouse 🌹

Dems Can Win If They’re More Like Warren G. Harding. Good Call, New York Times! (Wonkette)

(more)

When I hear a fellow person of Caucasian appearance say they want to return to “normal” under a Dem, what I really hear is they want to stop being the target of anger and go back to being the angry party. They voted for Trump because he was “different,” he was a “man of the people” who’d go to D.C. and “drain the swamp.” They’re the ones who’ve whined more and more incessantly that they’re not racists, they’re not bigots, they’re not nationalists, they just want jobs and tax cuts. So when they say they want to go back to “normal,” what they’re really saying is they want to stop living in shame.

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Old Liberal  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:25:59pm

re: #253 austin_blue

1944.

Hope the Ds are working on this. Don’t need to be standing with a thumb up our butt in January 2020. IMO we have to prevent another 2010 by any means necessary and that means overreach on day one.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:26:32pm

re: #254 BeachDem

She can’t vote—a more important one (Happy’s Rep who flipped a red seat blue)

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That’s awesome. Go Jen!

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:27:09pm

I’ve been keeping track of freshman reps who flipped red seats to blue (30 in all) who have come out for impeachment. It’s been mentioned that those will be tough sells because of vulnerability. Six so far (unless I’ve missed some)

Tom Malinowski NJ
Katie Porter CA
Sean Castin IL
Debbie Mucarsel-Powell FL
Harley Rouda CA
Jennifer Wexton VA

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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:28:42pm

re: #252 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Narrator: They did not.

Planning is a cheap way of keeping idle minds out of trouble. Somewhere at the bottom of a filing cabinet in the Pentagon J3 is a plan for the occupation of Liechtenstein.

The Office of War Information had started a series of “ethnography at a distance” studies early in the war years. The most famous result was Ruth Benedict’s Chrysanthemum and the Sword, on Japan.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:28:51pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:30:13pm

I should amend my statement to remark that if you hear a Dem politician mention anything about “normal” or suggesting that removing Trump will get America back there…they’re giving a campaign speech and it’s totally aimed at the embarrassed Trump voter segment of America. It’s a replay of ‘08: “We don’t hold you responsible for Bush, we just wanna get back to ‘normal.’ Vote for us and we can put this all behind us.” For those who may not remember, those folks were the ones who steered the party immediately after the election into effectively absolving Dubya of all his sins and arguing like Ford that the country needed to “move on.”

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William Lewis  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:37:26pm

re: #259 Decatur Deb

Planning is a cheap way of keeping idle minds out of trouble. Somewhere at the bottom of a filing cabinet in the Pentagon J3 is a plan for the occupation of Liechtenstein.

The Office of War Information had started a series of “ethnography at a distance” studies early in the war years. The most famous result was Ruth Benedict’s

, on Japan.

The one based on War Plan Crimson was better. I think it was called “Great White North” by Bob and Doug McKenzie?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:38:03pm

re: #254 BeachDem

She can’t vote—a more important one (Happy’s Rep who flipped a red seat blue)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:39:22pm

Impeachment is slowly coming.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:40:44pm

re: #258 BeachDem

I’ve been keeping track of freshman reps who flipped red seats to blue (30 in all) who have come out for impeachment. It’s been mentioned that those will be tough sells because of vulnerability. Six so far (unless I’ve missed some)

Tom Malinowski NJ
Katie Porter CA
Sean Castin IL
Debbie Mucarsel-Powell FL
Harley Rouda CA
Jennifer Wexton VA

Slight correction—the 30 were D wins against running incumbent Rs. Joe Cunningham won in SC (hasn’t come out for impeachment thus far) and then there’s the NC-9 ongoing mess)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:42:42pm

re: #244 Patricia Kayden

Mcconnell: Okay, so we need some kind of bullshit “plan” that makes it sound like we’re doing something about Russia when really we’re just leaving the door open for them to help us win the next election.

AIDE 1: Can’t we just pass a watered down version of the Klobuchar bill?

Mcconell: No, fuck that. That will make us look weak.

AIDE 2: Okay, how about this Collins thing? We can probably de-tooth it enough to get it by. We’ll say we had to make some changes to “protect the value of Democracy” or some patriotic BS like that.

Mcconnell: I like the way you think, but I’d rather just draft a new bill that achieves what we want but still makes it look like we’re trying to stop Russia.

AIDE 1: But we don’t want to stop Russia.

Mcconnell: Of course not, but we want to LOOK like we are. It’s all about optics. We get something passed and get that shit all over Fox News, they’ll make Democrats look terrible for opposing it.

AIDE 2: We could go on a big Voter ID kick that could direct the conversation away from Russia.

Mcconnell: Not a bad idea, but we need something more substantial to make it look like we actually care about this.

AIDE 1: I’ve got it! We draft a measure called the Targeting Russian Underhandedness and Mass Propaganda act!

AIDE 2: We can fill it with all kinds of crap we’re not actually going to do, then make the Democrats look like unpatriotic assholes for not supporting it!

Mcconnell: Yes! That will work! Somebody get me Sean fucking Hannity on the phone, now!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:43:25pm

re: #262 William Lewis

The one based on War Plan Crimson was better. I think it was called “Great White North” by Bob and Doug McKenzie?

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As a student I did some work for Dr Margaret Lantis, a diminutive Eskimo specialist. She spent the war teaching Arctic survival to Air Corps bomber crews. Another of our anthros had been a Navy LCDR who acted as Administrator for one of the Pacific archipelagos.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:43:40pm

I am disappointed (but not at all surprised) that our milquetoast rep here in NY-25, Joe Morelle, has been noncommittal on impeachment.

He’s a reliable mainstream D caucus vote on stuff that matters, but only as part of the herd. A long way from his sainted firebrand predecessor, Louise Slaughter, who’d have been at the barricades six months ago.

And he’ll probably hold the seat now for 20 more years… sigh…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:44:44pm

My hope is as more Ds jump on the Impeachment train, the holdouts will start following suit.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:46:29pm

re: #269 Eclectic Cyborg

My hope is as more Ds jump on the Impeachment train, the holdouts will start following suit.

He’ll be impeached when vulnerable Republicans start begging for it.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:47:18pm

re: #269 Eclectic Cyborg

My hope is as more Ds jump on the Impeachment train, the holdouts will start following suit.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:47:50pm

re: #269 Eclectic Cyborg

My hope is as more Ds jump on the Impeachment train, the holdouts will start following suit.

I think we are witnessing that.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:48:16pm

Trump keeps on supplying his own rope.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:49:15pm
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austin_blue  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:51:39pm

re: #267 Decatur Deb

As a student I did some work for Dr Margaret Lantis, a diminutive Eskimo specialist. She spent the war teaching Arctic survival to Air Corps bomber crews. Another of our anthros had been a Navy LCDR who acted as Administrator for one of the Pacific archipelagos.

You have led an interesting life.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:52:06pm

re: #268 i(m)p(each)sos

I am disappointed (but not at all surprised) that our milquetoast rep here in NY-25, Joe Morelle, has been noncommittal on impeachment.

He’s a reliable mainstream D caucus vote on stuff that matters, but only as part of the herd. A long way from his sainted firebrand predecessor, Louise Slaughter, who’d have been at the barricades six months ago.

And he’ll probably hold the seat now for 20 more years… sigh…

My representative (Adrian Smith, R, NE-3) has been silent on the issue (which is an improvement over the poo-flinging of other Republicans).

His redesigned Website for the US House makes it impossible to read on my computer. The banner takes up nearly the whole screen.

adriansmith.house.gov

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:52:30pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:53:14pm

re: #275 austin_blue

You have led an interesting life.

Lived in interesting times.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 3:54:31pm

re: #277 Patricia Kayden

DeMoCrAtS aRe ThE rEaL rAcIsTs!

I’m uncomfortable wearing shoes. I don’t unless I have to. (Must be because I’ve been to Africa.)

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austin_blue  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:02:43pm

re: #278 Decatur Deb

Lived in interesting times.

When my dad’s fighter squadron returned to Cherry Point MCAS after deploying south to Florida during the Cuban Missile Crisis, JFK was there to welcome them back. He greeted the pilots and then made his way to the rope line to thank the family members there. He patted me on the shoulder.

I also shared a smoke with Obama when he came down to Austin when he was doing his initial US Senate run.

Outside of the musicians and media folks you routinely run into in Austin, those are my brushes with greatness.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:06:22pm

re: #277 Patricia Kayden

From that thread:

Still ignoring Jim Crow, conservatives are. The reason so many African (and other) nations were happy about the People’s Republic of China being admitted to the UN was because both the PRC and the Soviet Union specifically played Jim Crow against us to advance their own agendas in other countries; they used conservative racism to show why they were “better nations.”

Reagan supported apartheid in South Africa. He also supported the idea the United Kingdom and the USA should militarily support Ian Smith’s Rhodesia.

Not a big stretch to wonder why African nations might accept the PRC in the UN.

Moreover, Albania’s ultimately successful bid to admit the PRC as part of the UN in 1971 paved the way for Nixon to visit China (first as part of a secret visit that same year).

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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:06:28pm

re: #280 austin_blue

When my dad’s fighter squadron returned to Cherry Point MCAS after deploying south to Florida during the Cuban Missile Crisis, JFK was there to welcome them back. He greeted the pilots and then made his way to the rope line to thank the family members there. He patted me on the shoulder.

I also shared a smoke with Obama when he came down to Austin when he was doing his initial US Senate run.

Outside of the musicians and media folks you routinely run into in Austin, those are my brushes with greatness.

That’s cool enough. When I was working on JTF Andrew recovery at Homestead, I accidentally photobombed GHWB and candidate Bill Clinton on the same afternoon. They were in the way, but the kids did get to see me on TV.

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wrenchwench  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:06:39pm

re: #280 austin_blue

When my dad’s fighter squadron returned to Cherry Point MCAS after deploying south to Florida during the Cuban Missile Crisis, JFK was there to welcome them back. He greeted the pilots and then made his way to the rope line to thank the family members there. He patted me on the shoulder.

I also shared a smoke with Obama when he came down to Austin when he was doing his initial US Senate run.

Outside of the musicians and media folks you routinely run into in Austin, those are my brushes with greatness.

Can I pat the shoulder that was patted by JFK? My mom once shook the hand of LBJ. Then I shook her hand. Maybe we can trade.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:10:53pm

re: #280 austin_blue

When my dad’s fighter squadron returned to Cherry Point MCAS after deploying south to Florida during the Cuban Missile Crisis, JFK was there to welcome them back. He greeted the pilots and then made his way to the rope line to thank the family members there. He patted me on the shoulder.

I also shared a smoke with Obama when he came down to Austin when he was doing his initial US Senate run.

Outside of the musicians and media folks you routinely run into in Austin, those are my brushes with greatness.

I have never brushed with greatness. I generally use a hairbrush. /s

Seriously though, I don’t think I met anyone famous. (I did meet the American ambassador to Spain when I was there as part of a mandatory trip ordered by my command to Sevilla, but he’s not particularly famous.)

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austin_blue  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:13:27pm

re: #282 Decatur Deb

That’s cool enough. When I was working on JTF Andrew recovery at Homestead, I accidentally photobombed GHWB and candidate Bill Clinton on the same afternoon. They were in the way, but the kids did get to see me on TV.

My sister Kate was living in Coral Gables at that the time. She and her ex-husband were in construction project management at the time and went down to help with disaster assessments for FEMA. She told me that everything taller than 12 to 15’ was completely sheared away.

Brutal storm.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:15:29pm

re: #285 austin_blue

My sister Kate was living in Coral Gables at that the time. She and her ex-husband were in construction project management at the time and went down to help with disaster assessments for FEMA. She told me that everything taller than 12 to 15’ was completely sheared away.

Brutal storm.

There was a mound of garbage at Homestead AFB about 3 stories high. Most of the garbage was F-16s.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:15:52pm

re: #286 Decatur Deb

There was a mound of garbage at Homestead AFB about 3 stories high. Most of the garbage was F-16s.

Pretty spendy garbage.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:16:43pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:18:16pm

re: #287 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Pretty spendy garbage.

Shut up and submit your 1040A.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:18:58pm

“Reagan wasn’t calling African-Americans ‘monkeys,’ he was calling African despots ‘monkeys,’ you silly liberals!”

How soon will that be the conservative’s defense?

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:21:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:21:54pm

re: #277 Patricia Kayden

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Racist asshole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:22:16pm

another early endorsement

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:23:38pm

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

another early endorsement

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Big endorsement for her.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:24:32pm

Reagan was a prick hiding behind a smile. At least Nixon was somewhat upfront about being a douchebag.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:24:48pm

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good. This should put that Pocahontas nonsense to rest.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:24:48pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:25:39pm

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump can demand anything he wants from the Washington Post. That newspaper is free to ignore him.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:25:53pm

re: #296 Patricia Kayden

Good. This should put that Pocahontas nonsense to rest.

It won’t but I’m sure Deb will be a great surrogate for Warren and I’m leaning Harris right now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:26:15pm

re: #298 Anymouse 🌹

Trump can demand anything he wants from the Washington Post. That newspaper is free to ignore him.

also, the Post shouldn’t have to apologize for telling the truth

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:26:29pm

re: #290 DodgerFan1988

What did he call White or Asian despots? I’m sure he never called them monkeys or cannibals,

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:28:03pm

re: #301 Patricia Kayden

What did he call White or Asian despots? I’m sure he never called them monkeys or cannibals,

Nah Reagan called them friend.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:28:24pm
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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:28:37pm

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:29:24pm

re: #291 The Pie Overlord!

From the first time I heard of “Reagan Battalion,” I thought they were just a never-Trump group which wanted the dog whistles to go back in the whistle.

Their slip is showing.

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jeffreyw  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:30:00pm

re: #276 Anymouse 🌹

My representative (Adrian Smith, R, NE-3) has been silent on the issue (which is an improvement over the poo-flinging of other Republicans).

His redesigned Website for the US House makes it impossible to read on my computer. The banner takes up nearly the whole screen.

adriansmith.house.gov

This worked for me: Kill Sticky

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:30:20pm

I’m glad this came out though. A new generation of historians need to look at Reagan without the rose eyes. My dad’s father was two years younger than Reagan- same age as Nixon. He abhorred racism and the n word in specific. I’m proud that my grandfather was not a racist jerk like Reagan was and I’m proud to bear his surname.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:35:18pm

re: #306 jeffreyw

This worked for me: Kill Sticky

Hey thanks! I can read his Website now! He has articles and stuff on it (for example, the recent meeting between Wyoming and Nebraska’s senators, governors, water district managers in the two states, and farmers over the recent irrigation tunnel collapse in Wyoming which left much of southeast Wyoming and Scott’s Bluff County, Nebraska with no water.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:35:31pm

moron is taking a victory lap

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:38:38pm

this is too much fun

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gwangung  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:39:27pm

re: #296 Patricia Kayden

Good. This should put that Pocahontas nonsense to rest.

It won’t, cause racists gotta be racist. But it’ll help her nonetheless with Dems.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:44:05pm

JFC

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:44:33pm

thread

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:45:16pm

re: #312 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

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he should stop listening to talk radio on Sinclair stations

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:47:53pm

re: #312 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

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It’s not hate to talk about racism toad faced chode goblin.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:48:08pm

re: #312 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

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I think Ronna has to join the top 10 punchable faces list. She make me want to puke.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:48:43pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:50:10pm

re: #312 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

Was he listening to FOX Radio?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:51:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:54:24pm

re: #318 Anymouse 🌹

Was he listening to FOX Radio?

Hey this guy sounds just like me.// Wait it is me!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:55:42pm

re: #316 BeachDem

I think Ronna has to join the top 10 punchable faces list. She make me want to puke.

She’s worse than her uncle.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 4:59:00pm

Pa. The. Tic.

He is NOT a hostage, you assholes.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:00:01pm

re: #322 BeachDem

Pa. The. Tic.

He is NOT a hostage, you assholes.

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They’re mad about this but not the kid our own government kidnapped.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:01:59pm

re: #209 jaunte

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Is this the scythe users discussion group?

“I didn’t eat the salmon mousse….”

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:02:16pm

And the intro for the debate sounds like a WWE announcement. Arrrggghhh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:02:27pm
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austin_blue  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:03:17pm

re: #323 HappyWarrior

They’re mad about this but not the kid our own government kidnapped.

I believe you have ID’d the relevant grift.

Deflection, obfuscation, projection. Spin, fold, and repeat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:03:33pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:03:50pm

Another takedown of Baby Whiplash. THREAD:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:03:52pm

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So the system is fine when it goes your way wh Donnie Racist Shitbird?

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:03:52pm

re: #114 Charles Johnson

This is setting us up for the release of a tape with Trump using the N word. Everyone will just shrug and move on.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:04:30pm

re: #328 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m actually listening to Baltimore’s own Cass Elliott right now.

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austin_blue  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:04:46pm

re: #324 Barefoot Grin

“I didn’t eat the salmon mousse….”

SHUT UP.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:05:32pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:05:43pm

re: #329 The Pie Overlord!

Another takedown of Baby Whiplash. THREAD:

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Ben in a nutshell, Antisemitism is cool when it’s directed at Jews I dislike. I’m not a fan of Sanders at all but Ben is a grandstanding prick.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:05:56pm

re: #331 Patricia Kayden

This is setting us up for the release of a tape with Trump using the N word. Everyone will just shrug and move on.

Yep.

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sagehen  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:06:56pm

re: #328 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What about clam chowder?!?

By not mentioning that, we know they’re not really from Baltimore.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:09:51pm

There is nothing like Camden Yards on a summer’s evening when the O’s are winning.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:10:15pm

Steven Anderson (founder of the New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Association) has been banned from yet another country for inciting hatred, this time Australia.

No US church organisation has yet called his group out, not one.

(Goes to Utah Outcasts, caution for coarse language, 8:14)

Steven Anderson BANNED From Australia

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:10:17pm

re: #338 HappyWarrior

There is nothing like Camden Yards on a summer’s evening when the O’s are winning.

Sure, just let me know when that happens.

/I’ll see myself out

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:10:48pm

re: #335 HappyWarrior

Plus why would Sanders, who himself is Jewish, make an anti-Semitic comment? Doesn’t make a lick of sense. Ben is really stretching.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:11:36pm

re: #339 Anymouse 🌹

And he thinks he can go preach in New Zealand. Lol

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:11:39pm

re: #340 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Sure, just let me know when that happens.

/I’ll see myself out

Shut up Twinkies fan. :) Your team was gonna be my AL rooting interest this Fall but you’re pushing it.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:12:58pm

re: #341 Patricia Kayden

Plus why would Sanders, who himself is Jewish, make an anti-Semitic comment? Doesn’t make a lick of sense. Ben is really stretching.

Sanders wouldn’t but that doesn’t mean a Jewish person can’t make anti-Semitic comments or policy (Ben Shapiro, Steven Miller, &c)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:13:35pm

re: #341 Patricia Kayden

Plus why would Sanders, who himself is Jewish, make an anti-Semitic comment? Doesn’t make a lick of sense. Ben is really stretching.

To be fair, there are Jews who do make Antisemitic comments but I’ve never seen Sanders do it. I have seen Shapiro do it by calling liberal American Jews, Kapos. I don’t like the miserable prick but I know my history so I wouldn’t call him that, him being a miserable dick is apt enough without trivializing the Holocaust.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:13:37pm

re: #343 HappyWarrior

Shut up Twinkies fan. :) Your team was gonna be my AL rooting interest this Fall but you’re pushing it.

I may have deserved that.

On that note, though, the Twins are probably going to just throw the division away to the Indians. We’ll wind up playing the Yankees or the Red Sox in the wild card game and get thoroughly stomped again.

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sagehen  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:13:56pm

DEBATE IS STARTING

Can we have a new thread please?

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:14:23pm

re: #338 HappyWarrior

There is nothing like Camden Yards on a summer’s evening when the O’s are winning.

This reminds me of going to Sox games in April in 40-degree weather as a pre-teen Boy Scout in old Comisky and sitting behind the columns that supported the bleacher roof even though 98% of the park was empty—oh, and of getting jumped in the bathroom for the two dollars I had.

Wait…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:14:48pm

re: #346 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I may have deserved that.

On that note, though, the Twins are probably going to just throw the division away to the Indians. We’ll wind up playing the Yankees or the Red Sox in the wild card game and get thoroughly stomped again.

You never know. Either way I’m going for the Central in the AL. Leaning Atlanta in the NL, the ex O’s factor.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:15:26pm

re: #348 Barefoot Grin

This reminds me of going to Sox games in April in 40-degree weather as a pre-teen Boy Scout in old Comisky and sitting behind the columns that supported the bleacher roof even though 98% of the park was empty—oh, and of getting jumped in the bathroom for the two dollars I had.

Wait…

I went to old Comiskey a couple of times. Breaking down on the freeway south of Chicago headed back to Indiana was probably one of the scariest moments I’ve had.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:16:20pm

re: #348 Barefoot Grin

This reminds me of going to Sox games in April in 40-degree weather as a pre-teen Boy Scout in old Comisky and sitting behind the columns that supported the bleacher roof even though 98% of the park was empty—oh, and of getting jumped in the bathroom for the two dollars I had.

Wait…

My first hero was Cal Ripken, Jr. The O’s are more often bad than good but I love going up there for a game. Boog Powell is the nicest guy.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:17:20pm

re: #351 HappyWarrior

My first hero was Cal Ripken, Jr. The O’s are more often bad than good but I love going up there for a game. Boog Powell is the nicest guy.

Not a hero, but I was a big fan of the Big Hurt, Frank Thomas, when he was swinging the lumber on the South Side. I never did get to see him drive one out, though.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:17:21pm

re: #340 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Sure, just let me know when that happens.

/I’ll see myself out

That will happen when they play against the Tigers.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:18:06pm

re: #347 sagehen

DEBATE IS STARTING

Can we have a new thread please?

Is it? All I see is ABC running a Biden love-in with McCain’s dau.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:18:31pm

AM, I apologize. The OJ thing is real. Holy shit.

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sagehen  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:18:53pm

It’s on CNN

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:19:30pm

re: #353 The Pie Overlord!

That will happen when they play against the Tigers.

Five years ago. ALDS. Now we’re battling for the worst record in baseball. The Tigers will be back.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:19:52pm

I would like the debate better if

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:20:29pm

Ok, so finally found the live stream on CNN…

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:21:03pm

OT I have my seat so that I can learn how to operate the new voting machines. I called up the City Commissioners office this morning and reserved my seat. I will give up a Saturday to learn the new machines and get a $30 bonus when I get paid for November. And my new supervisor at work told me the easiest way to get to the Northeast Older Adult Center (Solly Playground).

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:21:04pm

I think too man of these candidates fail the television-test.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:21:20pm

re: #352 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Not a hero, but I was a big fan of the Big Hurt, Frank Thomas, when he was swinging the lumber on the South Side. I never did get to see him drive one out, though.

He was fun to watch. Best right handed hitter of his generation.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:21:20pm

re: #350 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I went to old Comiskey a couple of times. Breaking down on the freeway south of Chicago headed back to Indiana was probably one of the scariest moments I’ve had.

Wrigley was extremely cheap too, but there was no parking for our bus (I think), so we went to Comiskey. I went twice and only got jumped once; and I only got a small bruise from a punch—that’s all it took for me to take out my wallet, such as it was for an 11yo. [Full disclosure: I was also once jumped by some kids in the University of Illinois ice arena; one time it was black kids and one time it was white kids; I know some might think I’m making this up for balance, but it’s true.]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:22:25pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:22:51pm

Mayor Pete is good on TV.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:23:35pm

re: #340 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Sure, just let me know when that happens.

/I’ll see myself out

My wife waited her whole life to see the Cubs win the World Series. That didn’t happen, but she got to hear it on the radio.

She notes the true fan is the one who sits in the stands (she’s done that) saying “well, we’re down by eight in the ninth and there’s two outs, but we’ve still got a chance.”

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austin_blue  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:24:24pm

re: #365 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Mayor Pete is good on TV.

He’s photogenic guy. So is Beto.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:24:25pm

re: #366 Anymouse 🌹

My wife waited her whole life to see the Cubs win the World Series. That didn’t happen, but she got to hear it on the radio.

She notes the true fan is the one who sits in the stands (she’s done that) saying “well, we’re down by eight in the ninth and there’s two outs, but we’ve still got a chance.”

She’s right. I’ve been there. No game is the same.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:24:27pm

Warren is ok on TV, but I believe she will just grate on the average over-45 white male in this country, who will overwhelming pick Trump over her.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:24:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:24:58pm

re: #367 austin_blue

He’s photogenic guy. So is Beto.

I wish Beto was doing better but them’s the breaks. I’m leaning Harris now.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:25:28pm

re: #358 BeachDem

I would like the debate better if

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Could take out Montana Governor Steve Bullock as well. There’s a US Senate seat there he could win.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:25:29pm

re: #366 Anymouse 🌹

My wife waited her whole life to see the Cubs win the World Series. That didn’t happen, but she got to hear it on the radio.

She notes the true fan is the one who sits in the stands (she’s done that) saying “well, we’re down by eight in the ninth and there’s two outs, but we’ve still got a chance.”

I’ve done that before. I only ever left one game early - it was Opening Day a few years ago. 37 degrees at first pitch. Mrs. Fish was 8.5 months pregnant with our second fishspawn. We were down 7-4 in the 7th inning, and while that doesn’t sound insurmountable, the 7 had been scored very early in the game (by like the 3rd or 4th inning). We got on the bus and went back to where we had parked the car, and turned it on the radio. It wound up being the final score.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:26:06pm

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yawn Ari. Stop it with this stupid shit. You support a man who belittled Gold Star Families and a POW.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:26:16pm

Bernie only plays to his base. This is traditional political strategy - energize your base - but it skips the real problem that Bernie has, which is that his base can only be spoilers, they can’t win by themselves.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:26:52pm

John Delaney is a muppet.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:27:30pm

re: #375 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Bernie only plays to his base. This is traditional political strategy - energize your base - but it skips the real problem that Bernie has, which is that his base can only be spoilers, they can’t win by themselves.

He hasn’t shown any desire to create a big tent. His supporters compare him to FDR. FDR built the strongest political coalition imo in American history.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:29:50pm

re: #339 Anymouse 🌹

Steven Anderson (founder of the New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Association) has been banned from yet another country for inciting hatred, this time Australia.

No US church organisation has yet called his group out, not one.

(Goes to Utah Outcasts, caution for coarse language, 8:14)

[Embedded content]

Did you expect any Xtians to even speak out?

Only one Christian I know has the backbone to tell Anderson to go fuck himself and that’s Reverend William Barber.

The same Reverend who got arrested for standing up to the RepubliKKKlans in the North Carolina Legislature and in return was arrested and convicted of trespassing.

And did any Xtians come to Christian Reverend Barber’s defense?

Nope.

379
austin_blue  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:29:51pm

re: #369 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Warren is ok on TV, but I believe she will just grate on the average over-45 white male in this country, who will overwhelming pick Trump over her.

Welp, she’s the ultimate policy wonk in the race and fiercely intelligent, so, yeah, she’s not going to get much of the older, non-college white guy vote.

380
BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:30:03pm

Bernie is so pissed off already and we’ve only just begun.

381
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:30:53pm

re: #380 BeachDem

Because Warren is going to out-talk him on the same issues.

Bernie knows he can lose his base to Warren.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:30:57pm

re: #380 BeachDem

Bernie is so pissed off already and we’ve only just begun.

I would be too if I were him. A lot of arguments against Trump you can make against Bernie too.

383
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:31:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:31:37pm

re: #381 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Because Warren is going to out-talk him on the same issues.

Bernie knows he can lose his base to Warren.

Because Warren is more intelligent, accomplished, & isn’t a racism enabler.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:32:03pm

Another Friendly Fire Festival. I’m off to stream old vampire movies.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:32:28pm

re: #385 Decatur Deb

Another Friendly Fire Festival. I’m off to stream old vampire movies.

My new term for such events is “clown fiesta”.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:32:49pm

re: #385 Decatur Deb

Another Friendly Fire Festival. I’m off to stream old vampire movies.

I’m going to walk to the store…

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:33:18pm

re: #374 HappyWarrior

Yawn Ari. Stop it with this stupid shit. You support a man who belittled Gold Star Families and a POW.

And who had a campaign manager who called us “terrorism supporters.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:33:32pm

And the kids, Mrs. Fish, and I are watching Adam Savage’s “Mythbusters Jr.” series. It is as excellent as it sounds. 13/10, can’t recommend it highly enough.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:33:48pm

Someone needs to knock-down the catch phrase “middle class”.

Not only has it not been defined tonight, it’s not really a thing.

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b.d.  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:34:11pm

Press: Dems, how are you going to pay for anything you propose?

Press: Republicans, how big of a tax cut are you proposing and when are we going to war?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:34:12pm

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fuck you, Ari. Many of us were taught to honor the National Anthem by standing at attention.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:34:30pm

re: #385 Decatur Deb

Another Friendly Fire Festival. I’m off to stream old vampire movies.

Pardon me if I think nominating a guy who is going to turn 80 in two years is stupid and a guy who had his immigration record praiddd by Steve King. How can we with moral authority criticize Trump if that’s our guy? A guy who mind you won’t even bother joining the party whose nomination he wants.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:34:48pm

“Middle class” is a buzzword, a hot button.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:35:05pm

Oh and by the way for those who thought that racism became acceptable for RepubliKKKlans when Trump was elected…

The day after the United Nations voted to recognize the People’s Republic of China, then-California Governor Ronald Reagan phoned President Richard Nixon at the White House and vented his frustration at the delegates who had sided against the United States. “Last night, I tell you, to watch that thing on television as I did,” Reagan said. “Yeah,” Nixon interjected. Reagan forged ahead with his complaint: “To see those, those monkeys from those African countries—damn them, they’re still uncomfortable wearing shoes!” Nixon gave a huge laugh.

Click on the link and hear the audio clips of Tricky Dick and Pruneface letting their racism run wild!

theatlantic.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:35:27pm

re: #391 b.d.

Press: Dems, how are you going to pay for anything you propose?

Press: Republicans, how big of a tax cut are you proposing and when are we going to war?

Yep. That shit pisses me off and as much as lefty Econ purity annoys me, there is a double standard.

397
BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:35:31pm

This whole discussion of health care is so incomplete without Kamala on the stage. And just wait till Marianne defines healthcare as “people get sad.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:36:15pm

re: #396 HappyWarrior

Yep. That shit pisses me off and as much as lefty Econ purity annoys me, there is a double standard.

But I want my unicorn… WAAAAAAAHHHHHH…

////

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:36:56pm

re: #379 austin_blue

Welp, she’s the ultimate policy wonk in the race and fiercely intelligent, so, yeah, she’s not going to get much of the older, non-college white guy vote.

She’ll get me if she survives the campaigning going into my state. So would Harris. Not too sure about Buttigieg after his “Pence is a nice guy” comment when he was campaigning here; he is certainly no longer in my top tier. I’m only one non-college white guy vote, but still.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:37:20pm

re: #397 BeachDem

This whole discussion of health care is so incomplete without Kamala on the stage. And just wait till Marianne defines healthcare as “people get sad.”

I hate that Trump has convinced people like Williamson and Yang they should be President. I may dunk on Bernie but at least he’s worked in government. Being a government novice isn’t a good thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:37:25pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:37:33pm

So tonight is about who is more Republican than another??

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:37:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:38:06pm

re: #398 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

But I want my unicorn… WAAAAAAAHHHHHH…

////

I mean. I’m pretty economically left wing but we need to get to B before we get to C.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:38:31pm

re: #395 Joe Bacon 🌹

Nixon never changed his mind about the supposed inherent inferiority of Africans. At the end of October 1971, he discussed the UN vote with his best friend, Bebe Rebozo. Bebe delighted Nixon by echoing Reagan: “That reaction on television was, it proves how they ought to be still hanging from the trees by their tails.” Nixon laughed.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:38:32pm

re: #404 HappyWarrior

I mean. I’m pretty economically left wing but we need to get to B before we get to C.

That’s completely illogical. If we can’t get to C directly and immediately, we should abandon all hope and just vote Republican.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:38:44pm

re: #401 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is just sad.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:39:11pm

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Ah Ari Fleischer—the Judah Benjamin of the 21st Century…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:39:26pm

re: #407 HappyWarrior

This is just sad.

I think this is what CNN wanted.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:40:01pm

I bet tomorrow night that Harris, at least, will not let CNN dictate tenor. Time, yes, but not tenor.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:40:16pm

re: #406 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s completely illogical. If we can’t get to C directly and immediately, we should abandon all hope and just vote Republican.

And you see how a former Kucinich guy like me gets frustrated. ACA was hard fought. We can strengthen it.

412
HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:40:40pm

re: #409 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I think this is what CNN wanted.

I was talking about BillO but this works too.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:40:52pm

Marianne is a moron.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:41:01pm

Just waiting for Bernie to start singing I’m My Own Grandpa.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:41:20pm

Pete is so damn good.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:41:38pm

Stop screaming, Bernard.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:42:15pm

re: #416 BeachDem

Stop screaming, Bernard.

At his age it’s not going to stop…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:42:20pm

re: #413 BeachDem

Marianne is a moron.

As I posted earlier, this guy should have been on the stage instead of Little Ms. Antivaxxer!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:42:41pm

re: #395 Joe Bacon 🌹

Oh and by the way for those who thought that racism became acceptable for RepubliKKKlans when Trump was elected…

The day after the United Nations voted to recognize the People’s Republic of China, then-California Governor Ronald Reagan phoned President Richard Nixon at the White House and vented his frustration at the delegates who had sided against the United States. “Last night, I tell you, to watch that thing on television as I did,” Reagan said. “Yeah,” Nixon interjected. Reagan forged ahead with his complaint: “To see those, those monkeys from those African countries—damn them, they’re still uncomfortable wearing shoes!” Nixon gave a huge laugh.

Click on the link and hear the audio clips of Tricky Dick and Pruneface letting their racism run wild!

theatlantic.com

There was a reason why my dad’s dad didn’t like either of those guys, Joe and why 17 year old me wrote an essay on why he doesn’t belong on currency.

420
Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:42:46pm

re: #404 HappyWarrior

I mean. I’m pretty economically left wing but we need to get to B before we get to C.

I’m very far on the left wing economically, but I understand that both compromise and pragmatism are required if you want anything done.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:43:28pm

re: #418 Joe Bacon 🌹

As I posted earlier, this guy should have been on the stage instead of Little Ms. Antivaxxer!

[Embedded content]

Certainly makes as much or more sense.Bernie is getting on my last nerve.

422
HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:44:04pm

re: #416 BeachDem

Stop screaming, Bernard.

I know DD doesn’t like us criticizing the candidates but I’m sorry. I’m looking for the anti Trump, not his left wing version.

423
b.d.  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:44:20pm

Biden is winning this debate

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:44:51pm

re: #419 HappyWarrior

There was a reason why my dad’s dad didn’t like either of those guys, Joe and why 17 year old me wrote an essay on why he doesn’t belong on currency.

Yeah I remember when Newt and Dole wanted to put Reagan on the dime. My sister wanted me to sign a GOP petition to do that.

I told her Pruneface wasn’t worth a wet S&H Green Stamp.

425
HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:45:39pm

re: #424 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yeah I remember when Newt and Dole wanted to put Reagan on the dime. My sister wanted me to sign a GOP petition to do that.

I told her Pruneface wasn’t worth a wet S&H Green Stamp.

I brought up the Philadelphia speech. The man was a racist fraud.

426
BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:46:20pm

Eat a donut, Delaney. (donuts are his thing. Presidential candidate, not so much.)

427
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:46:25pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:47:45pm

There’s another buzzword pushed by the CNN mods: “illegal immigrants”.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:48:37pm

Lre: #428 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There’s another buzzword pushed by the CNN mods: “illegal immigrants”.

If people want to know why I’m hard on Sanders, it’s immigration.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:48:41pm

re: #339 Anymouse 🌹

Hey Steven Anderson:

🎃

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:49:03pm
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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:49:31pm
433
HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:49:43pm

re: #431 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sick of liars on both extremes of this.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:53:27pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:55:10pm

re: #378 Joe Bacon 🌹

Did you expect any Xtians to even speak out?

Only one Christian I know has the backbone to tell Anderson to go fuck himself and that’s Reverend William Barber.

The same Reverend who got arrested for standing up to the RepubliKKKlans in the North Carolina Legislature and in return was arrested and convicted of trespassing.

And did any Xtians come to Christian Reverend Barber’s defense?

Nope.

I don’t expect any church organisation at all to speak out. Reverend Barber is a good man, but he is only one man.

The group making the largest amount of trouble for the NIFB are atheists.

Even the Metropolitan Community Church (arguably the most LGBT friendly) will not speak out against the NIFB and their hate preachers. (This is why I call so-called liberal churches fifth columnists, because they give cover for the hatred at the core of their religion.)

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sagehen  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:56:14pm

re: #425 HappyWarrior

I brought up the Philadelphia speech. The man was a racist fraud.

Nixon’s racism was ENTIRELY a behind-closed-doors thing. He never said or did anything racist out in public.

1960 - Nixon on Civil Rights

437
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:57:09pm

Marianne… sigh…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:58:00pm

re: #436 sagehen

Nixon’s racism was ENTIRELY a behind-closed-doors thing. He never said or did anything racist out in public.

[Embedded content]

True. Nixon went from being supported by MLK Sr to welcoming Strom Thurmond into the GOP.

439
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:58:06pm

re: #437 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Marianne… sigh…

Makes me wish someone would do the Monty Python Fish Slapping Dance with Pulpit Pimp Marianne!

440
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:58:08pm

re: #437 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Marianne… sigh…

441
BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:58:16pm

Is it just me or does Bernie seem to be getting more time than everybody else? (They really cut loony toons Marianne off quickly—I’m not complaining but…)

442
HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:59:18pm

re: #440 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Funny you say that because a friend just wished Madeliene were still alive to play her. Well Kate McKinnon is probably tired of playing weird old white dudes.

443
DodgerFan1988  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:59:46pm

The “rappers use the n-word all the time” canard.

444
The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 5:59:49pm
445
Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:02:07pm

re: #378 Joe Bacon 🌹

My sister was a deaconess in the Metropolitan Community Church.

She has left the church, because they won’t take a stand against the NIFB’s homophobia or racism.

She is now questioning whether she has wasted her time on Christianity, because when it comes to the important matters they say they care about, the churches are nowhere to be found.

On a very long telephone call with me about that, all I could tell her was she needed to follow her own mind on why churches are that way.

I don’t expect her to become an atheist, and I’m not pushing her for that. I do suspect she will gradually drift away from Christianity, because she sees every church as hypocritical, if her own church won’t defend her.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:03:09pm

Lre: #443 DodgerFan1988

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The “rappers use the n-word all the time” canard.

Meanwhile the snowflakes think they’re the real victims.

447
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:03:27pm
448
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:03:43pm

re: #445 Anymouse 🌹🎃

The overwhelming number of preachers are only in it for the money…and the fringe benefits that they can sweep under the rug…

449
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:04:24pm

re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth

450
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:05:55pm

re: #449 Joe Bacon 🌹

[Embedded content]

and Russians

451
b.d.  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:06:20pm

The NRA are on their heels right now, this debate is the best thing to happen to them in a long time.

452
HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:06:22pm

re: #450 Backwoods_Sleuth

and Russians

What’s the difference these days?//

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:06:31pm

re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I swaer, there are actual Dems around here who support her. I’m not talking woo woos, I’m talking activist, involved people. I don’t get it. She (Marianne) spends a LOT of time here in South Carolina.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:08:14pm

re: #451 b.d.

We need to remember that CNN is a brand of a for-profit corporation.

It is in that corporation’s interest to generate controversy.

This is why they love Trump, no matter how much he bad-mouths them.

As you just noted with the NRA, by giving them so much time here the CNN and the Dems are helping them. Just as all the time that Trump bashes CNN by name, he drives interest in CNN.

455
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:08:21pm
456
Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:08:50pm

re: #448 Joe Bacon 🌹

The overwhelming number of preachers are only in it for the money…and the fringe benefits that they can sweep under the rug…

In my hometown, the United Methodist Church they once had a minister who was shot right outside my aunt’s house outside of town on the state highway, when he was traveling from town to the hospital in the next county.

He kept a small Bible in his inside breast pocket at all times, and that Bible stopped the bullet. My aunt and cousins went out to help him and called the sheriff and an ambulance.

They still credit to this day God for delivering the minister (rather than physics).

457
b.d.  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:08:50pm

Mayor Pete and, God forgive me for saying this, Hickenlooper have had the best nights so far imho.

458
HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:08:54pm

re: #453 BeachDem

I swaer, there are actual Dems around here who support her. I’m not talking woo woos, I’m talking activist, involved people. I don’t get it. She (Marianne) spends a LOT of time here in South Carolina.

She has a couple celeb backers too. I mean I’m sure most of her funding is ratfucking but yeah.

459
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:10:54pm

This “debate” is about playing to the base of each candidate, to raise money to get to the next hurdle (which ups the bar for being on stage.)

Tonight strikes me as a the pre-show for tomorrow night, which is when Biden has to make his big stand, and Harris has to prosecute Trump, Biden (if necessary) and anyone else. And Booker will need to show if he can own the stage or if he should get off of it.

460
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:11:01pm
461
Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:11:53pm

re: #458 HappyWarrior

She has a couple celeb backers too. I mean I’m sure most of her funding is ratfucking but yeah.

Republicans Urge Donations to Marianne Williamson to Keep Her in Future Debates (Daily Beast)

Jeff Roe, who worked with Ted Cruz on the Texas Senator’s 2016 presidential run, called on fellow Republicans to donate $1 to Williamson—who is now polling at around 1 percent—to ensure her repeat performance in future Dem debates: “Keep this vibrant democrat on the debate stage. One debate performance is not enough.” Roe later screenshotted what appeared to be his own donation to Williamson, and retweeted followers who followed suit.

(more)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:14:01pm

re: #461 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Republicans Urge Donations to Marianne Williamson to Keep Her in Future Debates (Daily Beast)

(more)

Didn’t dispute that. Just that she has true believers donating her way too. We have ignorant people too unfortunately.

463
Ace-o-aces  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:15:28pm

Oh Tammi….

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:15:35pm

re: #462 HappyWarrior

Didn’t dispute that. Just that she has true believers donating her way too. We have ignorant people too unfortunately.

Yup. The New Agey types tend to be on the left. With her out there, they will gravitate toward her like a crank magnet.

465
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:15:49pm

Ryan reiterates the hot-buttons that CNN wants…

Are any of these people able to take control of this away from CNN’s sponsors?

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:16:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:17:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:17:29pm

re: #463 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

Oh Tammi….

You don’t care about God or guns. You care about being a racist.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:17:31pm

re: #462 HappyWarrior

Didn’t dispute that. Just that she has true believers donating her way too. We have ignorant people too unfortunately.

Really—everything isn’t always Russians and ratfuckers. Sometimes I leave my house and actually attend political events with other Democrats and I’m telling you, she has actual support among actual Democrats. I don’t understand it, but I see living, breathing Democrats who work on campaigns, raise money, knock doors etc. supporting Moron Marianne.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:17:56pm

re: #463 Ace-o-aces

Oh Tammi….

LOL Tomaine Lettuce in the self-own of the day.

Sarah Silverman in a skit postulated that right-wing eye candy blondes are created in a factory and programmed with their talking points before being sent out on social media.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:18:25pm

re: #466 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

These idiots may be anti Trump but they venerate another racist.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:19:24pm

re: #467 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

He’s the delegate for where I grew up!

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:19:53pm

re: #448 Joe Bacon 🌹

The overwhelming number of preachers are only in it for the money…and the fringe benefits that they can sweep under the rug…

And the pool boys.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:20:42pm

re: #471 HappyWarrior

These idiots may be anti Trump but they venerate another racist.

They’re not anti-Trump. If Trump kept the racism on the downlow instead of using a bullhorn, they’d be right behind him.

475
HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:20:48pm

re: #469 BeachDem

Really—everything isn’t always Russians and ratfuckers. Sometimes I leave my house and actually attend political events with other Democrats and I’m telling you, she has actual support among actual Democrats. I don’t understand it, but I see living, breathing Democrats who work on campaigns, raise money, knock doors etc. supporting Moron Marianne.

Right. I know other Dems too. Some are a little bit wacky. Better than the alternative obviously but could join the real world more too.

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Teukka  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:21:40pm

Truth of the day.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:23:21pm

re: #475 HappyWarrior

Right. I know other Dems too. Some are a little bit wacky. Better than the alternative obviously but could join the real world more too.

Yeah, I’ll go even further. Some of the ones I know aren’t even wacky. They’re solid, normal Dems, but they’ve fallen under Marianne’s thrall for some strange reason.


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The Revivalists - Oh No (Made in Muscle Shoals) We snuck away to the legendary Fame Studios in Muscle Shoals to record this special live version of "Oh No".Stream the new version: found.ee Directed & Produced by Jay SansoneVideographer - Frank BernalVideographer - Dan Ladue Stream/Order Take Good ...
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The Nude Party - Gringo Che (Live on the Current)The Nude Party perform 'Gringo Che' from their self-titled 2018 album live in The Current studio.
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Gary Clark Jr. - Pearl Cadillac - Live at Lollapalooza 2019, Saturday August 3, 2019
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 190811Yesterday we began some backfilling. Dumping sand between the sandbags we laid last week and the pool wall. Then raking flat, and tamping down. After that we build more sandbag wall, then more sand, etc., till we get to the ...
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The Black Keys - Go [‘Let’s Rock’ Tour Rehearsals] Watch the tour rehearsal video for “Go” now ⚡ Catch the band on the "Let's Rock" Tour this Autumn. Get tickets now at theblackkeys.com 2019 TOUR DATESSep 21 | Las Vegas, NVSep 23 | Denver, CO Sep 24 | ...
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THE IMPOSTORS - Don’t Get Mad (1980) Here's a band I sometimes skipped meals to pay the cover for in the early '80's - The Impostors. Johnny Campbell, the drummer, would also sometimes work as Jo Allen and the Shapes drummer when Jo Allen (also a ...
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Elizabeth Warren Introduces Sweeping Gun Control Plan Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren introduced a sweeping gun control plan Saturday with the goal of reducing gun deaths by 80% through executive action and legislation. "You've got to start with a goal. I haven't heard anybody else talk about ...
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