Democratic Debate, July 30, 2019

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Typical. CNN isn’t making any streaming video available. So here’s an open thread to discuss tonight’s debate for those who wish to partake.

I did have a stray thought, though…

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174 comments

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:21:12pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:22:49pm

re: #1 Belafon

Did Biden really say that?

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:23:10pm
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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:24:40pm

re: #2 Skip Intro

Did Biden really say that?

I suspect it’s a summary.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:25:27pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:25:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:25:41pm

re: #3 The Pie Overlord!

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We have a President admired by David Duke. I’m no leftist but this country could move to the left on economics and it would do it some good. It would be a good wake up call to those who think what the left wants is akin to Venezuela.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:26:32pm
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Teukka  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:26:54pm

Got caught in a thread change (is it being “CL’ed”?).
Truth of the Day:

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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:27:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:28:10pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:28:13pm

If they gave them (well, at least some of them) more than 15 seconds to answer a question, maybe it would make more sense.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:28:21pm

To the debate thread with this.

re: #477 BeachDem

Yeah, I’ll go even further. Some of the ones I know aren’t even wacky. They’re solid, normal Dems, but they’ve fallen under Marianne’s thrall for some strange reason.

We have our own version of “we need an outsider” voters, and Marianne Williamson is about as outside as you can get.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:28:57pm

re: #3 The Pie Overlord!

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I keep trying to find the article that shows that, ranked against the governments of the world, Democrats here are a little left of center, but Republicans are really far right of center.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:29:34pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

Damn. One upfist awarded to Senator Warren.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:29:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:30:05pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yep. Delaney is a fucking killjoy. He’d be fine as a Republican.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:30:52pm

meanwhile in eastern Kentucky tonight:

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:30:57pm

re: #13 Anymouse 🌹🎃

To the debate thread with this.

We have our own version of “we need an outsider” voters, and Marianne Williamson is about as outside as you can get.

Nope—these peeps I know are people who worked on Hillary’s campaign and work on local campaigns and are not “we need an outsider” voters. I don’t get it, but these are people who are usually sane.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:31:12pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

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Can we blow the dust off of Chuck Barris’ old Gong?

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:32:38pm

re: #19 BeachDem

Nope—these peeps I know are people who worked on Hillary’s campaign and work on local campaigns and are not “we need an outsider” voters. I don’t get it, but these are people who are usually sane.

We don’t want or need an outsider. We need somebody who knows what the fuck they’re doing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:32:50pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:33:30pm

re: #14 Belafon

I keep trying to find the article that shows that, ranked against the governments of the world, Democrats here are a little left of center, but Republicans are really far right of center.

What Happened to America’s Political Center of Gravity? (goes to the New York Times, with comparison charts of the Republican and Democratic Parties ranked against other nations’ parties, with a further link to the organisation which studies parties around the world by their platforms line-by-line).

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:34:34pm

re: #19 BeachDem

Nope—these peeps I know are people who worked on Hillary’s campaign and work on local campaigns and are not “we need an outsider” voters. I don’t get it, but these are people who are usually sane.

I don’t either. I just don’t get why anyone would want someone who has never worked in government or law in charge. Like maybe I could understand wanting her in Congress but even then I would be hesitant.

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sagehen  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:36:06pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

meanwhile in eastern Kentucky tonight:

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Patty Loveless “You’ll Never Leave Harlan Alive”

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:36:24pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

I don’t either. I just don’t get why anyone would want someone who has never worked in government or law in charge. Like maybe I could understand wanting her in Congress but even then I would be hesitant.

She dropped out of college to become a (failed) cabaret singer. I don’t want her anywhere near any form of government. I blame Oprah for her, Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz—and I’ll never forgive her for any of them!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:36:53pm

Off topic:
The Walmart spud-pisser has been captured!
Police pop woman who peed on potatoes in Walmart

Police have nabbed the woman who peed in a bin of potatoes in a western Pennsylvania Walmart last Wednesday. A store employee spotted the tot mama in the act and immediately notified law enforcement.

The curly-haired brunette was captured on surveillance video entering the store — and the West Mifflin Borough Police Department posted screen grabs to its Twitter and website.

“Identification assistance — Walmart Incident,” cops captioned the images in a call for the community to help expose public enemy No. 1.

The shamed spud soaker, a k a Grace Brown, 20, turned herself in Tuesday.

A confession:
I have from time to time uttered the words “piss on Walmart.” I regret that anyone has chosen to take this admonition literally.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:37:11pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:37:45pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

meanwhile in eastern Kentucky tonight:

Yikes.

Trump bringing back those coal jobs.

Worse, while terrorism has a very narrow definition under federal law, interfering with a railroad is defined under that statute.

If wingnuts wanted to go all in for their corporate masters, they could arrest them for that.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:38:20pm

Llre: #26 BeachDem

She dropped out of college to become a (failed) cabaret singer. I don’t want her anywhere near any form of government. I blame Oprah for her, Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz—and I’ll never forgive her for any of them!

Right. In any case, I’m exhausted by people who don’t understand policy thinking they should be President. It’s exhausting.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:38:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:38:47pm
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Dave In Austin  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:39:07pm

Wife just broke out in her best Madeline Kahn impression…. and it worked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:39:36pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:41:07pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah her AIDS history is why I don’t want her anywhere near the WH or policy. Gonna read up on disabilities tho. I’m sure she has wacky views on autism too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:41:12pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:41:17pm

Whoa. As a Michigander, let me say FUCK MARIANNE.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:42:09pm
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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:42:40pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Bing to the O. She’s not just loony, she’s dangerous. And she’s fucked up a lot of people’s lives with her bullshit. That’s why I just shook my head at the lengthy NYT interview with her, where she said not ONE word about her presidential platform, but shared her “vast knowledge of mental illness” (which is basically “people get sad”) instead.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:44:02pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ouch!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:44:55pm

re: #38 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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And they’re going to be replaced by even more nutty people. Remember Gaetz’s predecessor? Me neither.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:45:11pm

The Second Stupidest Man In America:

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b.d.  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:45:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:47:17pm

re: #42 The Pie Overlord!

The Second Stupidest Man In America:

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When’s the last time Antifa killed someone? I can tell you the last time one of your asshole father’s did. I hope you never see your kids again and they grow up to hate your guts.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:48:07pm

re: #43 b.d.

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“When Grandpa heard that Mom was bringing Thai food home.”

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:48:28pm

Oh gawd grandpa is yelling again.

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b.d.  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:48:43pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

“When Grandpa heard that Mom was bringing Thai food home.”

hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:48:50pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:48:59pm

re: #43 b.d.

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Parker made a gif

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:49:01pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

“When Grandpa heard that Mom was bringing Thai food home.”

Fuck I’m really laughing at that….

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:49:42pm

re: #42 The Pie Overlord!

His father praised White Supremacists AFTER they had killed someone and beat people up in Charlottesville.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:49:48pm

re: #47 b.d.

hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually inspired by my own grandmother trying Thai for the first time recently and having it today lol.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:49:53pm
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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:50:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:50:35pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:50:37pm

re: #48 Patricia Kayden

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He’s right about that. I have my problems with him but he makes some very prudent points.

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:50:38pm

Can we send grandpa shouty to that farm planet in Love Death And Robots?

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:51:21pm

Elizabeth, Pete and Amy were worth listening to—the rest of them need to shut up. Oh shit, now a fucking Tulsi Gabbard ad…followed by a Tom Steyer ad. Shoot me now.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:51:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:51:56pm

re: #50 Scottish Dragon

Fuck I’m really laughing at that….

I can’t get over he’s closer to my grandmas age than my mom. Oh and my Grandma is a Great Grandma who remembers WWII.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:53:24pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Haven’t I suffered enough without having to see a Jonas brother? Ewwwwwwww

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:53:56pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:54:08pm

re: #37 The Pie Overlord!

Whoa. As a Michigander, let me say FUCK MARIANNE.

As a former Michigander, I would argue that’s a true statement.

Grosse Pointe is very wealthy and full of conservatives. The mayor is a Republican.

Rick Snyder would never have fouled up Grosse Pointe’s water supply like he did Flint’s. I’m sure there must be a reason for that, if I can put my finger on the colour.

I still don’t want Marianne.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:54:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:54:31pm

re: #62 goddamnedfrank

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“The fish WAS that big!”

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:54:38pm

Still think we should send sanders to that great fake Vermont farm in the sky with the giant killer bugs and the real American farmer types with weaponized mech suits.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:54:58pm

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹🎃

As a former Michigander, I would argue that’s a true statement.

Grosse Pointe is very wealthy and full of conservatives. The mayor is a Republican.

Rick Snyder would never have fouled up Grosse Pointe’s water supply like he did Flint’s. I’m sure there must be a reason for that, if I can put my finger on the colour.

I still don’t want Marianne.

That’s how I interpreted it too.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:56:18pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

meanwhile in eastern Kentucky tonight:

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Look at those damn hippy socialist commie miners wanting to get paid by their betters! Don’t they know they are lucky to be even in the United States to begin with? Forget about their corporate-profit-hurting salary-not-getting-paid snowflake nonsense…They should just be grateful they can turn on the TV and see Trump on Fox News all day “telling it like it is!”

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:57:16pm

Delaney looks like he’s watching a tennis match courtside. And I repeat—he’s a muppet.

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:57:18pm

re: #68 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Look at those damn hippy socialist commie miners wanting to get paid by their betters! Don’t they know they are lucky to be even in the United States to begin with? Forget about their corporate-profit-hurting salary-not-getting-paid snowflake nonsense…They should just be grateful they can turn on the TV and see Trump on Fox News all day “telling it like it is!”

Obviously takers and moochers.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:57:22pm

re: #64 Joe Bacon 🌹

April Ryan is getting flamed in the comments.

She isn’t responding though.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:57:43pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:57:59pm

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹🎃

April Ryan is getting flamed in the comments.

She isn’t responding though.

She won’t.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:58:24pm

re: #69 BeachDem

Delaney looks like he’s watching a tennis match courtside. And I repeat—he’s a muppet.

Muppets are cool.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:58:59pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

Muppets are cool.

lower case m—a knockoff.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 6:59:34pm

re: #75 BeachDem

lower case m—a knockoff.

Ah! A moppet, yes.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:00:23pm

Is this over soon? I need to go watch the finale of Years and Years (to cheer myself up!)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:04:08pm

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

Ouch!

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:07:03pm

Venn diagram of the beginning and the end of Delaney’s campaign.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:08:25pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:09:10pm

re: #54 MsJ

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:09:26pm

By the way has His Ass-Holeyness been Tweeting?

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:10:12pm

And they’re still not giving people adequate time to speak?

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:10:38pm

Tired of grandpa shouty. I’m out.

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b.d.  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:11:33pm

re: #84 Scottish Dragon

Tired of grandpa shouty. I’m out.

Don’t forget to vote in the Drudge Poll!

Williamson is running away with it lol.

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:11:41pm

To:
Marianne Williamson
John Delaney
Tim Ryan
John Hickenlooper
And a few others who are too insignificant to name:

And how you tried to make it work
Did you really think it could
How you tried to make it last
Did you really think it would
Like a guest who stayed too long
Now it’s finally time to leave
Yes, it’s finally time to leave
Take it calmly and serene
It’s the famous final scene

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:11:49pm

I went to the store… bought a lottery ticket… and come home to find this thing is still going on.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:12:17pm

re: #83 MsJ

As I noted downstairs, this thing is about CNN making money.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:14:14pm

Trump’s voters don’t care about any of these things.

They just want to hate the others.

Nothing a Democratic candidate can say in a 30 second quip can fix that.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:15:14pm

re: #83 MsJ

And they’re still not giving people adequate time to speak?

I’m for getting rid of the Dem-GOP agreement about debates and returning them to the League of Women Voters.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:16:23pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:16:36pm

I don’t know why these candidates keep trying to invoke “climate change”. It’s not a thing that can swing votes.

The talk should be about money, jobs, more money, and more jobs.

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MsJ  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:18:01pm

re: #92 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I don’t know why these candidates keep trying to invoke “climate change”. It’s not a thing that can swing votes.

The talk should be about money, jobs, more money, and more jobs.

I disagree. Young voters care about that passionately.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:18:10pm

re: #82 Joe Bacon 🌹

By the way has His Ass-Holeyness been Tweeting?

Not in the last three hours, when he was doing his victory lap about the DNC.

He doesn’t get that though the case was dismissed, they can appeal.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:18:39pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:19:27pm

re: #93 MsJ

I disagree. Young voters care about that passionately.

But most of them don’t vote.

And it is not clear to me that a candidate will need to keep repeating the phrase “climate change” to get the youth to vote for them.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:19:28pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

That’s not going to age well at all.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:20:10pm

re: #92 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I don’t know why these candidates keep trying to invoke “climate change”. It’s not a thing that can swing votes.

The talk should be about money, jobs, more money, and more jobs.

Something something the only planet we have to live on is becoming unliveable.

Aside from all the younger people who have to live with this, some of us older people care about the subject too.

We aren’t going to drown in sea level rise here, but we’ve had more rain than we usually get in ten years.

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b.d.  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:20:18pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

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Yep , that Williamson isn’t a boring dishrag like that Mueller guy is!

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:20:29pm

re: #92 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I don’t know why these candidates keep trying to invoke “climate change”. It’s not a thing that can swing votes.

The talk should be about money, jobs, more money, and more jobs.

Those are Trump’s talking points. He takes credit for all the jobs (actually created by Obama’s stimulus) and all the money (that the 1% are making)

Using those talking points is worthless unless you want to spend your entire time refuting Trump’s lies, which of course get repeated and that’s exactly what he wants.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:20:30pm

Did Warren just say “hypnotic tools”?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:20:34pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:20:49pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

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It’s all a joke to these guys isn’t it?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:21:00pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:21:04pm

re: #103 HappyWarrior

Yes.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:21:51pm

Hickenlooper thinks that “putting America first” is going to hurt Trump?

Trump has his base exactly because he is that xenophobic.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:22:37pm

There’s three candidates for the nomination. Biden, Warren, Harris. Period. End this tedious bullshit, please.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:23:16pm

re: #96 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

But most of them don’t vote.

And it is not clear to me that a candidate will need to keep repeating the phrase “climate change” to get the youth to vote for them.

We know the older a person is, the more likely they are to vote.

The 2018 election saw a huge wave of younger voters turn out to help with the Blue Wave.

Promoting a culture of voting every time in every election would drive a stake in the GOP.

You see the same sort of avoidance with jury duty (except that’s amongst most people, not just young people).

Civic responsibility is something we need to instill again. There’s a reason the GOP has long opposed civics in schools.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:24:01pm

re: #105 Ace Rothstein

Yes.

It frustrates me because the media should be leading the way to hold Trump accountable and not let us repeat the same mistakes.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:24:31pm

I think this is the most *annoying* debate I have ever seen in any context.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:24:35pm

re: #107 Ace Rothstein

There’s three candidates for the nomination. Biden, Warren, Harris. Period. End this tedious bullshit, please.

I’ll take that final 3. Of those, gimme Kamala.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:24:53pm

Pete goes for the kill… for all three of the Republicans who might care.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:25:10pm
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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:25:24pm

Is this ever going to end?

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gwangung  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:25:29pm

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹🎃

We know the older a person is, the more likely they are to vote.

The 2018 election saw a huge wave of younger voters turn out to help with the Blue Wave.

Promoting a culture of voting every time in every election would drive a stake in the GOP.

This is a needed strategy.

Can’t be the only one.

But we can multi-task.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:26:21pm

re: #113 The Pie Overlord!

I disagree with Soledad. Policy is not a winning strategy.

For quite some time now, American elections for the President is all about image.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:26:52pm

re: #114 BeachDem

I think it ended on Jan 21, 2017.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:27:34pm

re: #102 Joe Bacon 🌹

Thread, six tweets.

She would probably try to cure my epilepsy or latent TB with the power of positive thinking. No thanks, I prefer science.

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b.d.  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:27:47pm

Stop the debates, this sob is over!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:29:03pm

re: #113 The Pie Overlord!

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Soledad is our Edward Morrow.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:29:31pm

re: #119 b.d.

I think Pete will be an ideal VP candidate on a Harris ticket.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:30:18pm

re: #121 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I think Pete will be the nominee in 2028.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:30:19pm

re: #118 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Thread, six tweets.

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She would probably try to cure my epilepsy or latent TB with the power of positive thinking. No thanks, I prefer science.

Still remember when she urged AIDS victims to stop AZT and use “healing oils”…Gave her the chance to fleece them quicker…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:30:27pm

re: #119 b.d.

Stop the debates, this sob is over!

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I may not agree with his choice but this is one of the better endorsements I’ve read.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:30:32pm

re: #121 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I think Pete will be an ideal VP candidate on a Harris ticket.

Pete is putting himself in position for 2024.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:30:40pm

re: #121 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I think Pete will be an ideal VP candidate on a Harris ticket.

I’ll tske that.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:31:01pm

re: #125 The Pie Overlord!

Pete is putting himself in position for 2024.

I wish Pete would run for Senator.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:31:50pm

John Delaney in 1963: “I don’t have a dream today.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:32:48pm

Marianne goes for the heart breaker….

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:33:28pm

Is Delaney the lesser Marianne?

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BeachDem  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:33:34pm

Between Marianne’s and Delaney’s closing arguments, I’m ready to mainline tequila right now.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:33:36pm

re: #123 Joe Bacon 🌹

Still remember when she urged AIDS victims to stop AZT and use “healing oils”…Gave her the chance to fleece them quicker…

David Perry tore her apart on another thread.

(followed by a bunch of other people bringing receipts of her brain-dead ideas such as God prefers skinny people in Heaven with screen captures of those statements)

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:34:28pm

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Jesus.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:34:59pm

thedailybeast.com

First, notice what Williamson didn’t say in her apology tweet. By affirming that “many vaccines are important,” she implied that some conventional ones are not—most importantly the MMR (measles mumps rubella) vaccine, which has been found to be effective and safe by every single scientifically valid study ever conducted about it, but which was found to be unsafe by a single non-specialist whose medical license was subsequently revoked, who committed deliberate fraud, and whose completely invalid study was retracted by the journal that published it.

Second, Williamson blamed “Big Pharma,” conflating vaccines approved by (once again) every reputable scientific and medical organization on the planet with Purdue pharma’s latest opiate. This is straight out of the anti-vaxx conspiracy playbook.

Third, Williamson didn’t disclaim her ludicrous abortion analogy. This, once again, is pure left-wing anti-vaxx conspiracy nonsense: that just as we should respect a woman’s choice to have an abortion, so we should respect parents’ choice not to vaccinate their kids.

I’ve dealt with that crook. She makes Trump look like St. Francis!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:35:26pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:36:03pm

I listened for awhile, but knowing none of these plans can pass the Senate, and most of these people will be out of the race as of February 11, 2020 when I won’t get to vote until three months later, it seems pointless.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:36:28pm

“We fought climate change directly…” - there goes Hickenlooper again.

It’s irrelevant.

And it’s wrong.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:36:32pm

Amir Garrett, holy fucking shit. He just tried to take on the entire Pittsburgh Pirates.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:36:45pm

re: #136 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I listened for awhile, but knowing none of these plans can pass the Senate, and most of these people will be out of the race as of February 11, 2020 when I won’t get to vote until three months later, it seems pointless.

That’s why I had cartoons on lol.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:38:14pm

“We are as polarized and divided as we’ve ever been” - Beto.

Has heard of the Civil War?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:39:27pm

Just realized that I’ll be getting a vote by mail ballot under Los Angeles County’s new Vote By Mail system in the first week of February right after Iowa and New Hampshire…

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:39:38pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

2016 had too many things that divided people, mainly the belief that Trump couldn’t be elected, and he still only won because of the EC. They had better not be that way next year, and I don’t think they will.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:40:16pm

re: #134 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yup. If the brain-dead anti-vaxxer mom who brought her child 4-H Christmas caroling at my house in 2011, I might not have nearly died from a repeat case of the mumps.

And when the new Shingrix vaccine became available? My wife and I were on that. Damn skippy.

(When I was signing out from the pharmacy for the first shot, there was a guy there complaining about how his vaccine cost so much money - Shingrix isn’t cheap if you pay out-of-pocket. The clerk working with me just said “sign here, no charge.” I asked her why so many people are opposed to single-payer healthcare and the guy looked like he was going to kill me in the parking lot.)

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:41:19pm
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thecommodore  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:42:51pm

Warren blew everyone off the stage tonight. She was amazing. She remains my #1, with Pete #2. Everyone else tonight need to either drop out and run for Senate (Bullock, Beto) either can’t win at all and need to drop out (Delaney, Williamson, Ryan, Hickenlooper, Klobuchar), or are self serving turds (Bernie).

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:42:55pm

So CNN’s webpage freezes up just as Sanders is about to start his closing statement…

Fate is on my side.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:43:27pm

re: #143 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I was bedridden with the measles for 3 weeks as a kid. So weak I could not get out of bed without Mom’s help. She would not leave my side mainly because two of my sisters died in infancy.

When I finally got well and went back to school, found out one of the classmates died from a brain hemmorage thanks to measles and another girl was blinded.

So when anyone tries that anti-vax shit on me I reply with both barrels.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:46:17pm

re: #42 The Pie Overlord!

The Second Stupidest Man In America:

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:46:44pm

So far my mind is made up who I’m voting for on Super Tuesday. Elizabeth Warren.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:47:10pm

Certainly I am a grouchy curmudgeon these days.

Fundamentally, for-profit corporations like Time-Warner want to capture eyes, to sell advertisement.

You get eyes on product by generating controversy.

And then when it comes to elections, for all the complaining some people do about money in elections, to where does that money flow?

To corporations like Time-Warner.

Until we have a law which requires 100% disclosure of the source of all campaign advertisements, and that includes PACs, then we won’t have fundamental changes.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:47:23pm

re: #149 teleskiguy

So far my mind is made up who I’m voting for on Super Tuesday. Elizabeth Warren.

TBD here but she’s grown on me.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:47:35pm

re: #147 Joe Bacon 🌹

I was bedridden with the measles for 3 weeks as a kid. So weak I could not get out of bed without Mom’s help. She would not leave my side mainly because two of my sisters died in infancy.

When I finally got well and went back to school, found out one of the classmates died from a brain hemmorage thanks to measles and another girl was blinded.

So when anyone tries that anti-vax shit on me I reply with both barrels.

Both my wife’s mother and my mother had polio. Her mother was confined to a wheelchair her whole life. My mother was fortunate in that she recovered fully and was able to join the Navy.

Now however she is suffering from post-polio syndrome.

I’ve had chickenpox twice (once as a child, once in the Navy in 1993). My barrels are not as big as yours, but I’ll fire back as well.

My usual terms for antivaxxers are either “pro-plague” or “pro-death.”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:48:09pm

If the Fed goes ahead and cuts the interest rate a quarter point tomorrow as expected, I’ll be pleased that its finally facing the reality that inflation is flat on its back and there are still a lot of prime age Americans without jobs despite the 3.7% official unemployment rate. It should have been more aggressive in fighting unemployment over the previous decade, but better late than never.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:49:53pm

One of my coworkers suffered from polio right before the Salk vaccines were approved and they suffer from post-polio syndrome too.

I can empathize with the pain attacks I get from RA.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:49:58pm

re: #153 NO SMOCKING GUN!

…facing the reality that inflation is flat on its back …

Well, rents in San Diego are still up.

And the price of expendables, for me at least, are going up.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:51:42pm

Just got home, just now dialed up the debate.

Is it a bad time to ask for no spoilers?

just kiddin’

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:51:51pm

re: #155 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Well, rents in San Diego are still up.

And the price of expendables, for me at least, are going up.

I just got a $47/month rent increase. Sure wish I had more that a $98 dollar Federal Income Tax cut for the whole year to help cover that rent spike…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:52:32pm

re: #156 Rightwingconspirator

Just got home, just now dialed up the debate.

Is it a bad time to ask for no spoilers?

Marianne won bigly.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:52:52pm

re: #157 Joe Bacon 🌹

You could’ve used it for a membership at Costco.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:53:27pm

re: #145 thecommodore

Warren blew everyone off the stage tonight. She was amazing. She remains my #1, with Pete #2. Everyone else tonight need to either drop out and run for Senate (Bullock, Beto) either can’t win at all and need to drop out (Delaney, Williamson, Ryan, Hickenlooper, Klobuchar), or are self serving turds (Bernie).

Quit saying Beto should run for Senate. You will have to pry MJ Hegar out of my cold, dead heart, and I seriously supported Beto in 2018.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:53:59pm

re: #148 Belafon

LOL

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:54:05pm

Oh, a record heat wave is descending upon Greenland.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:54:23pm

re: #155 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Well, rents in San Diego are still up.

And the price of expendables, for me at least, are going up.

That is due to bad housing policy, not because interest rates are too low.

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:55:30pm
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Belafon  Jul 30, 2019 • 7:56:39pm

re: #164 teleskiguy

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:00:33pm

Now the big question for tomorrow is if Harris and Biden will go at each other again.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:01:29pm

Till tomorrow.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:03:05pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:05:09pm

re: #158 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Marianne won bigly.

Moonbat supporters are pulling out the old Christian apologetic chestnut “you’re quoting her out of context!”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:08:36pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:09:06pm

On Marianne Williamson and homeless vets (a subject near and dear to me):

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:25:05pm

re: #79 BeachDem

Venn diagram of the beginning and the end of Delaney’s campaign.

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“You know - for kids!”

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 30, 2019 • 8:58:47pm

re: #140 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

“We are as polarized and divided as we’ve ever been” - Beto.

Has heard of the Civil War?

A number of historians have said we are actually approaching 1855 levels of political polarization and animosity.

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Old Liberal  Jul 31, 2019 • 6:04:30am

re: #68 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Look at those damn hippy socialist commie miners wanting to get paid by their betters! Don’t they know they are lucky to be even in the United States to begin with? Forget about their corporate-profit-hurting salary-not-getting-paid snowflake nonsense…They should just be grateful they can turn on the TV and see Trump on Fox News all day “telling it like it is!”

If I recall correctly wage earners are just another unsecured creditor. Ain’t America great?


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