The Bob Cesca Podcast: Doctor Meat Pie

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show, powered by Capital Family Law Group:

Doctor Meat Pie — NSFW! The Goth Ninjas, Jody Hamilton and TRex David Ferguson are here; This week’s CNN debates; Marianne Williamson is a chaos agent; Joe30330; CNN’s debate format sucks; Time to thin the herd; Dems attack Obama for some reason; Medicare For All and killing private insurance; The American system vs England and Norway; Warren and Bernie have a peace pact; Prank callers target Sebastian Gorka’s stupid show; With music by Tim Mahoney and I Hate You Just Kidding; and more!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:08:21pm

I love that Gorka got pranked again.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:12:10pm

Fun thread about a dumbass:

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:13:07pm

re: #2 Barefoot Grin

Fun thread about a dumbass:

Mmmm, wasabi.

[Laughing internally.]

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:15:48pm

Shouldn’t Gorky’s head be popping out of a CHICKEN pot pie?

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:16:51pm
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Belafon  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:17:54pm

From earlier:

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wrenchwench  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:17:55pm

re: #4 Joe Bacon 🌹

Shouldn’t Gorky’s head be popping out of a CHICKEN pot pie?

OOPS. Burnt the sauce, real bad.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:18:23pm

Caught a fairly new movie about the Polish RAF Squadron 303. (Some cliches, but very good over all.) The young pilot at the center of the action was very good, so much that I went looking for the newcomer Polish actor they used.

It was Ramsay Bolton.

imdb.com

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:19:12pm

re: #121 Joe Bacon 🌹

I will not watch him.

I will not listen to him.

And I will do whatever I can to destroy the RepubliKKKlan Party.

As Jim Wright (Stonekettle) notes whenever someone asks “why don’t you unfollow Trump” or “why do you give him oxygen,” he replies as a former Naval intelligence officer it would cripple his mission to not listen to what adversaries are planning.

The same applies to Trump and other members of the Republican Party who support him. They need to be listened to, to understand what conservatism is and what it aims to do.

The claims of “Y is just a distraction from X” are untrue. Y is also an aim.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:19:41pm

re: #8 Decatur Deb

Caught a fairly new movie about the Polish RAF Squadron 303. (Some cliches, but very good over all.) The young pilot at the center of the action was very good, so much that I went looking for the newcomer Polish actor they used.

It was Ramsay Bolton.

So, recovered from the mauling, has he?

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Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:21:08pm

re: #5 Belafon

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Personally believe that the fact that the bill won’t pass is the entire point. That no bipartisan deal that lacks Donny’s approval is going anywhere, and he won’t approve of anything less than the 21st century version of the Nuremberg Laws, so they’ve decided as a party to start ramming through bills in the Senate to make Dems vote on them. We’ll see that when Mitch takes the hand-off from Graham and pushes the bill to a floor vote, even if it means violating yet more decorum and rules in order to get a speedy vote.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:21:45pm

re: #10 Blind Frog Belly White

So, recovered from the mauling, has he?

Seemed skittish around the squadron mascot.

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:25:42pm

So did the networks show Trump’s Klan rally?

Up here, some Bachelor show was on one and football on the other.

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Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:25:56pm

White House announces troop withdrawal from Afghanistan, wingnuts suddenly cool with “abandoning all we won” in deal with people they believe caused 9/11.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:26:00pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:26:06pm

From the previous thread:

re: #212 HappyWarrior

Do these people ever actually enjoy themselves?

The claim of A=432 cycles being invented by the Rothschilds (also known as Verdi tuning) has been around for ages.

The original claim (not involving Teh Jooos!) said simply that A=432 cycles was “natural” tuning and had been used on instruments for millenia (despite things like the tuning fork being invented in 1711). Musical instruments from ancient or mediæval times were simply tuned to each other.

From a typical conspiratorial site I keep on hand (but will not link here because this chowderhead deserves no clicks) about musical tuning:

The real music conspiracy story begins in 1910 when a man named John Calhoun Deagan [right], an alleged member of the US Naval Intelligence which was funded by the Rothschilds through their agents in the Rockefeller family, joined the American Federation of Musicians and convinced the group to endorse a standard of 440 Hz tuning for all orchestras and concert performing musicians. He was successful but this standard only applied to public performances in America.

Moving forward a decade, JD Rockefeller and JP Morgan created the Federal Reserve Bank as Illuminati agents and established the Rockefeller Foundation (1913). They began implementing their plans for what is now commonly known as the “New World Order”. Their first endeavor was the promotion (and funding) of the idea that society would be greatly improved with the elimination of the “inferior people” (i.e. those with feeble minds, alcoholics, criminals, those with genetic diseases) through imposed sterilization and euthanasia.

Thomas Edison and the US Navy are also involved in this “conspiracy” to force everyone into the Jewish Conspiracy (marca registrada) to tune A to 440 cycles.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:28:02pm

Why does the House even have to consider this bill? The Senate has not considered most of the bills that the House passed.

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EPR-radar  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:28:52pm

re: #16 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Willful stupidity in action.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:29:37pm

re: #17 I Would Prefer Not To

Why does the House even have to consider this bill? The Senate has not considered most of the bills that the House passed.

They don’t. They can refer it to committee and let it die there.

Then the Senate Republicans will howl and whinge about an “up or down vote” and “Democrats are undermining democracy” or other codswallop.

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EPR-radar  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:30:18pm

re: #17 I Would Prefer Not To

Why does the House even have to consider this bill? The Senate has not considered most of the bills that the House passed.

This would be a perfect tit-for-tat opportunity. Pelosi offers to consider exactly as many GOP bills in the House as McConnell has let D bills come to the Senate floor.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:32:30pm

re: #2 Barefoot Grin

Fun thread about a dumbass:

Islamist Sharia Japanese Condiments!

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BlueSpotinAL  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:33:06pm

re: #201 The Pie Overlord!

I just realized maybe the shoulder hunch is due to the kevlar vest not fitting well.

Probably told the people obtaining the vest to get one to fit a 6’ 3” 239 lb man

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EPR-radar  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:34:40pm

re: #22 BlueSpotinAL

Probably told the people obtaining the vest to get one to fit a 6’ 3” 239 lb man

I just had the funniest thought — what if Trump were to dictate the dimensions of his coffin to the mortician according to his fantasies instead of reality?

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Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:34:54pm

re: #17 I Would Prefer Not To

Why does the House even have to consider this bill? The Senate has not considered most of the bills that the House passed.

That assumes they can actually get it to the House.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:35:58pm

re: #23 EPR-radar

I just had the funniest thought — what if Trump were to dictate the dimensions of his coffin to the mortician according to his fantasies instead of reality?

I hope Trump gets cremated, put in a Pringle’s can and then placed in a nuclear waste storage site.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:36:54pm

re: #23 EPR-radar

I just had the funniest thought — what if Trump were to dictate the dimensions of his coffin to the mortician according to his fantasies instead of reality?

He thinks he is immortal.

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:37:29pm

re: #13 MsJ

So did the networks show Trump’s Klan rally?

Up here, some Bachelor show was on one and football on the other.

My local CBS and NBC affiliates were showing their normal programming when I checked. I didn’t bother clicking over to ABC. People got to have their Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune in the Mountain Time Zone, after all.Zone

I suspect also that people are being imprecise in their language, referring to the cable news networks as “the networks,” leading to confusion with OTA broadcast networks for those of who have chosen to forego cable or satellite.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:37:31pm
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:37:38pm

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:38:08pm

re: #26 The Pie Overlord!

He thinks he is immortal.

His radical Xtian supporters are stupid enough to think that. But then they’re stupid enough to handle rattlesnakes and drink strychnine…

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Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:38:58pm

re: #23 EPR-radar

I just had the funniest thought — what if Trump were to dictate the dimensions of his coffin to the mortician according to his fantasies instead of reality?

Coffin? I think the fucker expects to get the full Lenin treatment: Hugh mausoleum with his body permanently on display in a preserved state.

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BlueSpotinAL  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:42:16pm

re: #23 EPR-radar

I just had the funniest thought — what if Trump were to dictate the dimensions of his coffin to the mortician according to his fantasies instead of reality?

Give Trump’s body an enema, and he would fit in a matchbox (Jerry Falwell joke).

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:42:28pm

re: #31 Targetpractice

Coffin? I think the fucker expects to get the full Lenin treatment: Hugh mausoleum with his body permanently on display in a preserved state.

It’s going to need 24/7/365 security to stop people from defacing it.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:42:35pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:43:43pm

re: #31 Targetpractice

Coffin? I think the fucker expects to get the full Lenin treatment: Hugh mausoleum with his body permanently on display in a preserved state.

Better start the preservative now, before he looks even worse.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:43:53pm

re: #13 MsJ

So did the networks show Trump’s Klan rally?

Up here, some Bachelor show was on one and football on the other.

CBS did from beginning to end.

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:44:50pm

Ooook.

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Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:44:53pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

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They’re “horrified” about him in the same way they were about Dubya: He’s damaging their brand. If they give even a little bit of a damn about the damage he’s actually doing to the country, they certainly aren’t showing it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:45:55pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

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Nah Justin your former party were afraid he’d lose. And you’re still a dick even if you’re now former GOP.

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:46:00pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

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I remember when the babbling racist imbecile was Reagan.

And I remember when another babbling racist fascist-worshipping imbecile challenged George HW Bush for the nomination in 1992. That was the Beltway punditocracy ‘s favorite conservative racist uncle, Pat Buchanan.

Someone like Trump winning the presidency has been my personal nightmare since 1979.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:46:21pm

re: #37 MsJ

Ooook.

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Curry

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wrenchwench  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:47:29pm

re: #37 MsJ

Ooook.

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those aren’t chips

in this country, dammit!

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:47:35pm

re: #37 MsJ

Ooook.

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Nope. None of them get saved.

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:47:39pm

re: #31 Targetpractice

Coffin? I think the fucker expects to get the full Lenin treatment: Hugh mausoleum with his body permanently on display in a preserved state.

I’d imagine they’d be replacing the plexiglass (or whatever) I weekly.

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:48:45pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

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If conservative legislators were truly horrified, they would be resigning their memberships in the GOP en masse and declaring independence of forming their own party, breaking Mitch McConnell’s base of power for the good of the country.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:49:01pm

re: #40 A Three Hour Tour

I remember when the babbling racist imbecile was Reagan.

And I remember when another babbling racist fascist-worshipping imbecile challenged George HW Bush for the nomination in 1992. That was the Beltway punditocracy ‘s favorite conservative racist uncle, Pat Buchanan.

Someone like Trump winning the presidency has been my personal nightmare since 1979.

My Dad has told a story of him driving with his Dad and seeing a Reagan sticker around when Reagan primaried Ford. Dad laughed but Dad’s Dad told him it could happen. He died in 1979. Reagan was ProtoTrump no matter how hard anti Trump conservatives try to deny it.

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:49:25pm

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹🎃

CBS did from beginning to end.

Not in the Albuquerque market they didn’t.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:49:49pm

re: #30 Joe Bacon 🌹

His radical Xtian supporters are stupid enough to think that. But then they’re stupid enough to handle rattlesnakes and drink strychnine…

The dose makes the poison.

I take Phenobarbital to control seizures. It works very well (aside from known side effects which are tolerable). The Heaven’s Gate cult members took enough so they could go meet the aliens foretold by the Hale-Bopp comet.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:50:41pm

re: #32 BlueSpotinAL

Give Trump’s body an enema, and he would fit in a matchbox (Jerry Falwell joke).

Hitchslap delivered by Christopher Hitchens.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:51:53pm

#LeningradLindsey is trending.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:51:59pm

re: #37 MsJ

Ooook.

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Got to be the town delicacy from Ambridge PA—Hot Roast Beef Sandwich with Fries…

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:52:08pm

re: #43 The Pie Overlord!

Nope. None of them get saved.

Cheesy chips and gravy is just deconstructed poutine.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:52:45pm

more good news

Only seven candidates have qualified for the next Democratic debate so far, NYT reports

twitter.com

Biden
Harris
Warren
Sanders
Booker
Buttigieg
O’Rourke

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Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:53:21pm

re: #53 I Would Prefer Not To

more good news

Only seven candidates have qualified for the next Democratic debate so far, NYT reports

twitter.com

“THE FIX IS IN!!!”

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:54:05pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

“THE FIX IS IN!!!”

At least this one is in our favor.

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:54:10pm

re: #53 I Would Prefer Not To

more good news

Only seven candidates have qualified for the next Democratic debate so far, NYT reports

twitter.com

Good. The kooks are out.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:55:39pm

I’m thinking of donating to warren. I would support anyone, but I think she’s the best.

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:55:40pm

In case anyone is wondering.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:56:16pm

I’m glad the field is narrowing. More time for them to be heard.

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DangerMan  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:57:20pm

Didn’t watch or hear any of it
Didn’t read Lgf yet

I’ll say if they got through this one stinking rally without any “send her back”s.
It still don’t mean shit

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:57:29pm

re: #56 MsJ

Good. The kooks are out.

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Aw Susan Sarandon backs Mike Gravel and he doesn’t make the cut at all.

Boo hoo!

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:57:57pm

re: #58 MsJ

In case anyone is wondering.

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More. This was re: Yang.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:58:42pm

re: #57 I Would Prefer Not To

I’m thinking of donating to warren. I would support anyone, but I think she’s the best.

Of those seven, it’s her or Harris. I still like Beto as a person but his star has fallen for me. I like Pete too a fair bit but I have questions about his mayoral tenure and going from there to Potus.

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William Lewis  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:58:47pm

re: #37 MsJ

Ooook.

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gravy.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:58:49pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:58:56pm

re: #39 HappyWarrior

Nah Justin your former party were afraid he’d lose. And you’re still a dick even if you’re now former GOP.

The Libertarian state senator here who left the Republican Party called them out when she did it: She could not be a member of a party which trafficked in racism and misogyny.

She was reëlected as a Libertarian to the Unicameral in the last election. Turns out her state senate district likes her just fine.

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:59:10pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

I’m glad the field is narrowing. More time for them to be heard.

Nah. The debate network will just shorten the time. They don’t really want Democrats to be heard.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:59:18pm

re: #61 Joe Bacon 🌹

Aw Susan Sarandon backs Mike Gravel and he doesn’t make the cut at all.

Boo hoo!

Gravels Twitter feed called Pete a war criminal last night I saw.

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:59:40pm

re: #61 Joe Bacon 🌹

Aw Susan Sarandon backs Mike Gravel and he doesn’t make the cut at all.

Boo hoo!

She’ll find someone else to ratfucker us.

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wrenchwench  Aug 1, 2019 • 6:59:52pm

re: #56 MsJ

Good. The kooks are out.

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I’d miss Castro. Some good candidates need more time and exposure.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:00:18pm

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹🎃

The Libertarian state senator here who left the Republican Party called them out when she did it: She could not be a member of a party which trafficked in racism and misogyny.

She was reëlected as a Libertarian to the Unicameral in the last election. Turns out her state senate district likes her just fine.

I see but he’s a dick imo for his vote on the 9/11 bill.

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William Lewis  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:00:20pm

re: #53 I Would Prefer Not To

more good news

Only seven candidates have qualified for the next Democratic debate so far, NYT reports

twitter.com

Biden
Harris
Warren
Sanders
Booker
Buttigieg
O’Rourke

< Me lights candle of thanksgiving >

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Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:00:26pm

re: #67 MsJ

Nah. The debate network will just shorten the time. They don’t really want Democrats to be heard.

Shorten it to an hour and spend more time on the opening montage.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:00:34pm

re: #67 MsJ

Nah. The debate network will just shorten the time. They don’t really want Democrats to be heard.

Blah

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DangerMan  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:00:47pm

re: #5 Belafon

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This is a remarkable possibility: that Lindsey Graham broke four rules of SJC to pass a bill authorizing concentration camps in time for Trump’s rally tonight

If you pass a bill against the rules does it count? (Serious q)

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Charles Johnson  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:01:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:02:08pm

re: #70 wrenchwench

I’d miss Castro. Some good candidates need more time and exposure.

I’m still holding hope he gets VP or seriously considered. I would love to see him up against Pence. I’ve been a fan since his 2012 DNC Keynote.

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b.d.  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:03:14pm

re: #61 Joe Bacon 🌹

Aw Susan Sarandon backs Mike Gravel and he doesn’t make the cut at all.

Boo hoo!

Only because Mike is so classy

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Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:03:25pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

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The truth? The truth is Gabbard is a Republican who runs a Democrat because that’s the only way she can win an office in HI.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:03:28pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

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Says the Assad apologist who was a huge homophobic bigot in the Hawaii legislature admired by Steve Bannon.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:04:13pm

re: #40 A Three Hour Tour

I remember when the babbling racist imbecile was Reagan.

And I remember when another babbling racist fascist-worshipping imbecile challenged George HW Bush for the nomination in 1992. That was the Beltway punditocracy ‘s favorite conservative racist uncle, Pat Buchanan.

Someone like Trump winning the presidency has been my personal nightmare since 1979.

I remember Pat Robertson’s 1988 Presidential run and his statement he wanted to build a wall to keep people in, so they could be converted to Christianity or “punished.”

At that time I had a lot more money, and even though I was in the Navy I’d vowed I would flee the country if he was elected.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:04:35pm

re: #78 b.d.

Only because Mike is so classy

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Hasn’t it been confirmed the Gravel Twitter feed is run by a teenager? Either way. Gravel is an ass.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:05:03pm

re: #51 Joe Bacon 🌹

Got to be the town delicacy from Ambridge PA—Hot Roast Beef Sandwich with Fries…

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Get rid of that top piece of bread and I’m there.

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b.d.  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:06:03pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

Hasn’t it been confirmed the Gravel Twitter feed is run by a teenager? Either way. Gravel is an ass.

yeah, two of these guys lol

but still, mike gave them his proxy

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:07:10pm

re: #83 Belafon

Get rid of that top piece of bread and I’m there.

I can’t have any of that, but if I could, I’d eat it all and lick the plate. 😁

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:08:06pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

I see but he’s a dick imo for his vote on the 9/11 bill.

?

Laura Ebke has never served in the US House or Senate.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:09:31pm

re: #85 MsJ

I can’t have any of that, but if I could, I’d eat it all and lick the plate. 😁

I miss the places we would go to when I was a kid where we could get open faced roast beef sandwiches.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:09:32pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:09:33pm

re: #84 b.d.

yeah, two of these guys lol

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but still, mike gave them his proxy

Oh yeah. Don’t let it sound like that was a pass. Jesus Christ. Is there anything more sad than a nearly 90 year old former Senator who has his Twitter feed come off like an angry adolescent virgin who reads Atlas Shrugged? I loved John Dingell’s Twitter feed since Dingell was from the heart and insightful. Same thing with that lovely British WWII Vet, Harry Leslie Smith I believe

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:10:28pm

re: #53 I Would Prefer Not To

more good news

Only seven candidates have qualified for the next Democratic debate so far, NYT reports

twitter.com

Biden
Harris
Warren
Sanders
Booker
Buttigieg
O’Rourke

Castro, Yang, and Klobuchar are also very close and may qualify. I don’t understand how anyone can take Yang seriously, but I’m ok with Castro and Klobuchar.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:10:38pm

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹🎃

?

Laura Ebke has never served in the US House or Senate.

I was talking about Amash.

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plansbandc  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:11:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:11:39pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

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I do like Anderson. He doesn’t treat this administration as a reality show.

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b.d.  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:12:30pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

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Shame on Cooper for interviewing her in the 1st place.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:12:49pm

re: #90 Hecuba’s daughter

Castro, Yang, and Klobuchar are also very close and may qualify. I don’t understand how anyone can take Yang seriously, but I’m ok with Castro and Klobuchar.

UBI. I wouldn’t vote for Yang but I would pick his brain if I were President elect.

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EPR-radar  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:13:12pm

I had some fun elsewhere online making a list of some things Republicans think can be fixed by cutting taxes on the rich and deregulating businesses.

Republicans think tax cuts for the rich and business deregulation are the universal solution to all problems, including but not limited to: crabgrass, unemployment, tight labor markets, thinning hair, bull markets, bear markets, rising interest rates, falling interest rates, war, peace, inflation, deflation, erectile dysfunction, the neighbors having a better house and car, constipation and childrens’ bad grades in school. Also dirty windows.

But really such a list could go on forever.

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Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:13:25pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

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She’s not even on speaking terms with reality.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:14:32pm

re: #91 HappyWarrior

I was talking about Amash.

Okay, I think we were just commenting past each other then. I was talking about a state senator who called out the GOP for racism and misogamy, switched to the LP, then was elected again in her senate district here.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:15:00pm

re: #52 MsJ

Cheesy chips and gravy is just deconstructed poutine.

TBH I have never tried poutine in spite of many many visits to Toronto.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:16:30pm

re: #96 EPR-radar

I had some fun elsewhere online making a list of some things Republicans think can be fixed by cutting taxes on the rich and deregulating businesses.

Republicans think tax cuts for the rich and business deregulation are the universal solution to all problems, including but not limited to: crabgrass, unemployment, tight labor markets, thinning hair, bull markets, bear markets, rising interest rates, falling interest rates, war, peace, inflation, deflation, erectile dysfunction, the neighbors having a better house and car, constipation and childrens’ bad grades in school. Also dirty windows.

But really such a list could go on forever.

They like to claim socialism is a failure. Well we’ve had trickle down economics thrice in the last 40 years. I believe even Reagan’s tax man admitted it didn’t work but you won’t learn that at Prager University.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:16:59pm

Severe thunderstorm watch here has expired. Flash flood watch continues.

Further south, the severe thunderstorm watch is still in effect for NE Colorado, and Sterling is getting pounded by storm after storm. Some of them are floating across the state line to pound Sidney.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:17:16pm

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Okay, I think we were just commenting past each other then. I was talking about a state senator who called out the GOP for racism and misogamy, switched to the LP, then was elected again in her senate district here.

I know. I was talking about Amash originally you brought her up.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:18:10pm

re: #99 The Pie Overlord!

TBH I have never tried poutine in spite of many many visits to Toronto.

Had some at my birthday two summers ago. Good stuff if you like fries.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:18:15pm

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹🎃

CBS did from beginning to end.

It may have streamed live on CBSN. But that’s not the CBS broadcast network. None of the broadcast networks carried this rally at all. I don’t think any of the cable news channels did either, except for Fox. MSNBC in particular has gotten disciplined about not giving him free airtime for these rallies, which I appreciate.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:19:08pm

re: #51 Joe Bacon 🌹

Got to be the town delicacy from Ambridge PA—Hot Roast Beef Sandwich with Fries…

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That looks so good.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:20:00pm
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plansbandc  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:20:54pm

Washed the dog with oatmeal shampoo a couple of days ago. We had to walk in the rain tonight. Wet dog smell nope. Smelled like oatmeal cookies.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:21:11pm

re: #106 Belafon

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They sound confident.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:21:20pm

re: #99 The Pie Overlord!

TBH I have never tried poutine in spite of many many visits to Toronto.

That’s gotta be tough to find kosher.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:21:32pm

re: #105 Barefoot Grin

That looks so good.

Western Pa knows how to eat.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:22:05pm
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Dread Pirate  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:24:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:24:24pm

Prediction Hurd will be the go to Trump critical Republican who complains that the Dems aren’t listening to Republicans enough.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:26:07pm

re: #112 Dread Pirate

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He hates Bezos not just because of the WaPo but because Bezos actually is rich and an innovator and not a publicity junkie whose product is himself.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:27:42pm

re: #109 Rightwingconspirator

That’s gotta be tough to find kosher.

They make it at several kosher pizza shops in Toronto.

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VegasGolfer  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:29:23pm

re: #90 Hecuba’s daughter

Explain why you cant take Yang seriously.

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jaunte  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:30:07pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:30:25pm

re: #111 Patricia Kayden

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Read an article just yesterday that remarked upon the atmosphere in the House GOP ranks, which really amounts to a lot of moaning about being in the minority. They don’t get the big and cushy offices, they don’t get huge committee budgets, and they can’t get any publicity because their bullshit bills are going nowhere. So a lot of them are either retiring or thinking of retiring because fighting to retake the House is less appealing than just ducking out to become a lobbyist or run for office back home.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:31:18pm

re: #116 The Pie Overlord!

They make it at several kosher pizza shops in Toronto.

No kidding? Culinary cultural triumph right there.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:31:56pm

re: #112 Dread Pirate

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Having worked now for eight years in the defense industry, I can tell you that having multiple corporations doing the same job - IBM’s angle on having the contract reworked - results in shitty work, not better. One of the reasons we beat the Russians to the moon is we went with a single development process, where the Russians went with competition.

There are successful businesses running their data and cloud services completely in Amazon. It really is the best company for this job.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:33:06pm

re: #118 jaunte

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The future of the GOP is what it’s been. Angry old white guys who flip their shit if they hear other languages.

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stpaulbear  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:36:00pm

re: #56 MsJ

Good. The kooks are out.

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Klobuchar isn’t a kook, but I’ll be glad when she quits running and returns to being a senator from MN. I’m still getting email from her campaign. Sad.

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:36:07pm

re: #99 The Pie Overlord!

TBH I have never tried poutine in spite of many many visits to Toronto.

Duuuuude. You have no idea what you’re missing. Next time.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:36:43pm

Let me guess…these suckers hired Ted Haggard…

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plansbandc  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:36:48pm
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MsJ  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:37:25pm

re: #109 Rightwingconspirator

That’s gotta be tough to find kosher.

But you know someone in Toronto had done it.

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jaunte  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:40:44pm

And Will Hurd, Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Intelligence Modernization and Readiness, hops out of the car.

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:42:06pm

re: #123 stpaulbear

Klobuchar isn’t a kook, but I’ll be glad when she quits running and returns to being a senator from MN. I’m still getting email from her campaign. Sad.

I was referring to Tulsi and the Woo Woo. No one else.

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DangerMan  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:42:08pm

re: #119 Targetpractice

Read an article just yesterday that remarked upon the atmosphere in the House GOP ranks, which really amounts to a lot of moaning about being in the minority. They don’t get the big and cushy offices, they don’t get huge committee budgets, and they can’t get any publicity because their bullshit bills are going nowhere. So a lot of them are either retiring or thinking of retiring because fighting to retake the House is less appealing than just ducking out to become a lobbyist or run for office back home.

They could try, you know, working with the Dems instead of obstructing every single thing..

Hahahahahahaha
Oh sometimes I slay myself

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:44:17pm

re: #128 jaunte

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And Will Hurd, Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Intelligence Modernization and Readiness, hops out of the car.

Just as Q predicted! Hahahahaha! Oh, wait….

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:45:03pm

I’d anyone is as huge a Queen fan as I am, there making three new videos and calling for singers, dancers and musicians to send in videos for inclusion.

I’m doing it!

youarethechampions.com

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:45:28pm

re: #127 MsJ

But you know someone in Toronto had done it.

Most diverse city in the continent I heard. My mom’s parents each had a close family member go there. Don’t know of any Canada connections for my Dad.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:47:15pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

He hates Bezos not just because of the WaPo but because Bezos actually is rich and an innovator and not a publicity junkie whose product is himself.

He hates Bezos because (1) Bezos earned his money through new technologies instead of despoiling the environment through oil drilling and coal mining and fracking and (2) Bezos doesn’t worship him.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:47:16pm
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Chrysicat  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:49:49pm

Two threads ago since I passed out badly while I was about 20 posts above this, but I think it needs a response:

re: #312 Kilroy was here

Speaking of rats jumping ship…

Three NRA board members resign from organization
Esther Schneider of Texas, Sean Maloney of Ohio and Timothy Knight of Tennessee resigned after saying that they lost their committee assignments after questioning allegations of spending by CEO Wayne LaPierre, The Washington Post reported.

thehill.com

Do we know for sure that they aren’t just deserting to build the Gun Owners of America up further?

Its Colorado chapter is probably stronger than the NRA’s.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:50:23pm

Bob Cesca is absolutely right warning about Russia pushing the Bobsey Twins Tulsi and Williamson.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:51:11pm

re: #106 Belafon

Press headline, maybe: Uncivil Divisive Democrats Drive Republicans into Retirement.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:54:37pm

re: #135 Charles Johnson

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I imagine Anderson called her out on her insensitively ignorant bs on AIDS and public health.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:55:26pm

Night

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Dread Pirate  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:55:39pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:56:50pm
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MsJ  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:58:46pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 1, 2019 • 7:58:53pm

re: #117 VegasGolfer

Explain why you cant take Yang seriously.

Yang has one idea only: give every adult $12,000 per year. He has no experience in elective office or the military or foreign policy. Yes, he would be far better than Trump — or Williamson or Tulsi — but those are very low bars. Let Yang run a city or be elected to Congress first and then I’ll look at him.

He would be fine in a Cabinet post. Just not as President.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:00:39pm

re: #143 MsJ

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Maybe it’s from Grindr…or Adam4Adam…

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:00:50pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:02:02pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:02:54pm

re: #119 Targetpractice

Read an article just yesterday that remarked upon the atmosphere in the House GOP ranks, which really amounts to a lot of moaning about being in the minority. They don’t get the big and cushy offices, they don’t get huge committee budgets, and they can’t get any publicity because their bullshit bills are going nowhere. So a lot of them are either retiring or thinking of retiring because fighting to retake the House is less appealing than just ducking out to become a lobbyist or run for office back home.

That may not necessarily work for them (running for local offices), depending on the state.

In my little red corner of the country, in the last election the Democrats ran the most candidates in decades for local and statewide offices. Over eight hundred candidates were women.

The Blue Wave reached down into my local area. Although I was turfed out of office and the Democratic challenger for the US House did not win, my school board flipped blue, a write-in Democratic candidate in the second-largest town in my county defeated the Republican mayor with 92% of the votes, the sheriff left the Republican party and became an independent, another Democrat overwhelmed both the wingnut Republican retired Navy Lt. Cdr. who ran and the Republican mayor in the county seat.

If that sort of thing can happen here, then just about anyplace except Wyoming seems in play.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:03:13pm

Call me crazy I like Kamala over all of them. Smart and a spine made of spring steel.

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:07:16pm

re: #149 Rightwingconspirator

Call me crazy I like Kamala over all of them. Smart and a spine made of spring steel.

Ditto.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:08:04pm

re: #125 Joe Bacon 🌹

Let me guess…these suckers hired Ted Haggard…

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I think someone said that was an SNL skit or something comedic like that from a while back.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:11:54pm

re: #149 Rightwingconspirator

Call me crazy I like Kamala over all of them. Smart and a spine made of spring steel.

I have not made a firm decision yet; it’s still early.

I do like the fact that Sen. Harris is a former prosecutor; we’re going to need that to get back on track with following the law.

If she’s not the presidential or vice-presidential candidate, I think she definitely should become Attorney General.

With the culling of the herd shown above, I can see a number of combinations of candidates for POTUS/VP that would be good. Those who don’t make the final cut should seriously be considered for various cabinet posts or advisory positions.

Imagine a Warren/Harris (or Harris/Warren) ticket, a double break in the Glass Ceiling if they won.

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gocart mozart  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:12:00pm
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jaunte  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:14:37pm
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Belafon  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:15:00pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:16:24pm

re: #149 Rightwingconspirator

Call me crazy I like Kamala over all of them. Smart and a spine made of spring steel.

My sister and I discussed the candidates and her position is that Williamson is the only one that Trump would be willing to debate. Kamala would shred him into little pieces — there is no way Trump would share the stage with her. And the Berniacs have been attacking her for awhile. OTOH she probably will visit Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania — and Comey isn’t FBI director — so she does have that going for her.

My fear is that our Constitution will be the death of us — especially the Electoral College and the power of the Senate, where a majority can be based on states that represent less than 20% of the population and the 2/3 for overriding a veto can be based on states that have less than a third of the population.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:18:14pm

re: #8 Decatur Deb

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:20:06pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

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gocart mozart  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:20:51pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:23:25pm

re: #159 gocart mozart

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He won’t.

Hurd is a chicken just like every other Republican.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:24:28pm

re: #156 Hecuba’s daughter

The senate problem could be solved in all those “liberal coastal elites” would move into our states in the “full part of the country” (according to the Gospel of Trump). It’s cheaper here anyway. /s

I recall Rush Limbaugh going on about lesbian farmers taking over and subverting “real ‘Murica” (the women he was talking about were two women in Iowa who bought a farm … the folks in that town had a different opinion - they’d purchased a long-idle farm and created jobs in the community).

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BeachDem  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:26:33pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

UBI. I wouldn’t vote for Yang but I would pick his brain if I were President elect.

You don’t need to be president elect—he’ll just say $1,000 a month. Period. Paragraph. You’re welcome.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:28:40pm

re: #161 Anymouse 🌹🎃

The senate problem could be solved in all those “liberal coastal elites” would move into our states in the “full part of the country” (according to the Gospel of Trump). It’s cheaper here anyway. /s

I recall Rush Limbaugh going on about lesbian farmers taking over and subverting “real ‘Murica” (the women he was talking about were two women in Iowa who bought a farm … the folks in that town had a different opinion - they’d purchased a long-idle farm and created jobs in the community).

The liberal coastal elites (hey — what about us in Illinois — don’t we count??? — oh, wait, we are on the coast of Lake Michigan!!) want to live in communities with theater, art, diverse populations with delightful ethnic restaurants, and top universities.

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VegasGolfer  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:33:06pm

re: #144 Hecuba’s daughter

Yang has one idea only: give every adult $12,000 per year. He has no experience in elective office or the military or foreign policy. Yes, he would be far better than Trump — or Williamson or Tulsi — but those are very low bars. Let Yang run a city or be elected to Congress first and then I’ll look at him.

He would be fine in a Cabinet post. Just not as President.

Ok i see, cant have a first timer be president, even though thats the precedent now.
To beak it down to just giving everyone 12 grand a year is a simplistic reason to dismiss him, when he has an excellent reason why everyone should get it, and is one tiny part of his platform.
yang2020.com

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:37:57pm

In the 2020 Senate election for Nebraska, Ben Sasse now has a primary challenger, Representative Jeff Fortenberry (NE-1, Lincoln and surrounding area).

That means NE-1 is up for grabs.

Three Democrats have also declared to run for the Senate.

In NE-1, no Republican has declared to run for Fortenberry’s seat. State Senator Adam Morfield (D-Lincoln) has filed to run for the seat.

In NE-2, Republican Don Bacon has filed for reëlection. Four Democrats will square off for a primary challenge.

In NE-3, Adrian Smith has filed for reëlection. No Democrat has filed (there’s something I could do, bankrupt myself running to turf out my congressman).

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William Lewis  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:38:21pm

re: #144 Hecuba’s daughter

Yang has one idea only: give every adult $12,000 per year. He has no experience in elective office or the military or foreign policy. Yes, he would be far better than Trump — or Williamson or Tulsi — but those are very low bars. Let Yang run a city or be elected to Congress first and then I’ll look at him.

He would be fine in a Cabinet post. Just not as President.

I actually like the MBI idea and believe that it would be a big plus economically. That said, the idea of him running is almost as laughable as the rest of the bottom tier. No elected experience, no vote from me. Now if he could convince Warren to pick up his idea we can put him into Treasury to implement it for her administration.

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:40:06pm

re: #165 VegasGolfer

Ok i see, cant have a first timer be president, even though thats the precedent now.
To beak it down to just giving everyone 12 grand a year is a simplistic reason to dismiss him, when he has an excellent reason why everyone should get it, and is one tiny part of his platform.
yang2020.com

There’s a better reason… The time is coming when there will not be enough jobs to sustain the populace. Hungry and desperate people turn to crime.

This was tried in the past with criminals, paying them a monthly income. Crime dropped SIGNIFICANTLY.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:46:52pm

But but Andy Ngo!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:48:13pm

re: #163 Hecuba’s daughter

The liberal coastal elites (hey — what about us in Illinois — don’t we count??? — oh, wait, we are on the coast of Lake Michigan!!) want to live in communities with theater, art, diverse populations with delightful ethnic restaurants, and top universities.

Plenty of cheap land for all you coastal elites to build those here /s.

We do have a diverse community here with delightful ethnic restaurants (community being a longer drive than places in Chicago). In Scottsbluff we have a couple Mexican restaurants run by immigrant families, a Cambodian restaurant, a Thai restaurant, and a couple of Chinese restaurants, along with a KFC (that’s ethnic isn’t it? /s)

There is also the Midwest Theatre, which puts on all sorts of shows and plays (along with art house movies). Goshen County, Wyoming also has a theatre company.

Here in my county there are a couple Mexican restaurants (again run by immigrants).

We also have a vibrant Native American community.

In my town, at the community centre/bar/grill, occasionally our Cuban-American or Native residents will go in to put on an ethnic food fest.

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ckkatz  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:48:27pm

‘Tis the first of the month and the Washington Post has sent me a 30 Day code. First one in gets it.

If there is a preference for a better way to handle this, let me know. I’m all out of wisdom. I just don’t see any point to letting it go to waste.

wapo.st

Meanwhile, the mention of the hate at the CMU soccer field a few threads ago filled me with sadness. That was just down the hill from my childhood house. And I spent a lot of time around there as a kid.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:49:06pm

re: #167 William Lewis

I actually like the MBI idea and believe that it would be a big plus economically. That said, the idea of him running is almost as laughable as the rest of the bottom tier. No elected experience, no vote from me. Now if he could convince Warren to pick up his idea we can put him into Treasury to implement it for her administration.

As I said —- I have no problem with him in a Cabinet position and have no automatic objection to his proposal for a basic income for all adults; that seems similar in concept to Milton Friedman’s old idea of a negative income tax (fun fact — I was at school at the same time as Milton Friedman’s son David, who was studying physics, and met him through my boy friend at that time, who was also in physics)

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:51:17pm

July job report tomorrow. I’ll make the over/under +165,000.

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William Lewis  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:53:45pm

re: #172 Hecuba’s daughter

As I said —- I have no problem with him in a Cabinet position and have no automatic objection to his proposal for a basic income for all adults; that seems similar in concept to Milton Friedman’s old idea of a negative income tax (fun fact — I was at school at the same time as Milton Friedman’s son David, who was studying physics, and met him through my boy friend at that time, who was also in physics)

I remember that idea as being one of the few things Milton ever said that made sense. I think this would be a better way to do it than have to figure out how far under a baseline someone is. Just do an automatic payment into every person’s bank account once a month, perhaps on the SSI schedule?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:55:05pm

re: #174 William Lewis

I remember that idea as being one of the few things Milton ever said that made sense. I think this would be a better way to do it than have to figure out how far under a baseline someone is. Just do an automatic payment into every person’s bank account once a month, perhaps on the SSI schedule?

A great number of people don’t have bank accounts.

Children generally can’t get bank accounts.

Could solve that by restarting the Postal Savings Bank.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:55:20pm

re: #165 VegasGolfer

Ok i see, cant have a first timer be president, even though thats the precedent now.
To beak it down to just giving everyone 12 grand a year is a simplistic reason to dismiss him, when he has an excellent reason why everyone should get it, and is one tiny part of his platform.
yang2020.com

That’s the precedent for the GOP. Our precedent is picking non-white-straight-christian-men for office because we think they’re better qualified. And while Yank is pushing an interesting idea, most of us agree that no experience is not a qualification.

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Chrysicat  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:57:32pm

re: #125 Joe Bacon 🌹

Let me guess…these suckers hired Ted Haggard…

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Oh, joy. You found one of the major players on that side of the Methodist schism (where mine has an outside chance of being the mother church on the affirming side: gostandrew.com ).

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:58:27pm

re: #175 Anymouse 🌹🎃

A great number of people don’t have bank accounts.

Children generally can’t get bank accounts.

Could solve that by restarting the Postal Savings Bank.

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I believe Yang’s proposal is for those who are at least age 18.

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Chrysicat  Aug 1, 2019 • 8:59:00pm

re: #177 Chrysicat

Oh, joy. You found one of the major players on that side of the Methodist schism (where mine has an outside chance of being the mother church on the affirming side: gostandrew.com ).

I mean, no, they’re not in for adultery either, but I’m laying money that church is just as opposed to just two consenting folk of the same gender.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:00:06pm

re: #178 Hecuba’s daughter

I believe Yang’s proposal is for those who are at least age 18.

Why not everyone? Kids need food and shelter as well.

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:00:10pm

re: #178 Hecuba’s daughter

I believe Yang’s proposal is for those who are at least age 18.

Yes.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:01:14pm

re: #180 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Why not everyone? Kids need food and shelter as well.

Do you really want people to earn money based on the number of children they collect?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:03:27pm

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re: #178 William Lewis

Frances Oldham Kelsey, a true hero.

Not too hard to guess what rang Kelsey’s alarm bell when thalidomide came along. Early in her career, in 1938, she was part of the team that investigated the mass poisonings that resulted from the introduction of Elixir sulfanilamide. The manufacturer, SE Massengill, had used ethylene glycol as a solvent in the product. Their chief chemist, Harold Watkins, did not know that ethylene glycol is poisonous, even though it had been on the market for several years and there was already a fair amount of medical literature on the risks. 107 people died, 108 if you count Watkins, who committed suicide. This case led directly to the 1938 Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act that Kelsey was enforcing when she barred thalidomide.

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MsJ  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:06:11pm
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William Lewis  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:10:13pm

re: #180 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Why not everyone? Kids need food and shelter as well.

I would only allow those under 18 to collect if they 1) qualify for SSI or 2) are legally emancipated. In the case of 1, then regs need to be in place for a parent or guardian to have control over the income until age 18 - with provisions that it can only be used for the child’s needs (again, like SSI).

Once the person is over 18, waste it or save it however you wish. I’d help keep sword forges in biz ;D

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:10:43pm

re: #184 MsJ

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They’ve got some quality in common, but I can’t quite put my finger on it.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:15:06pm

I’m telling ya. Everyone wants to be a fucking viking…..

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:15:50pm

re: #182 Belafon

Do you really want people to earn money based on the number of children they collect?

That sounds a bit like the welfare queen argument: People have kids to collect food stamps.

Earned Income Credit partially works that way now, and people aren’t having children to boost their EIC.

There’s a whole lot more to raising a child than food and shelter.

In the meantime, I’m going to bow out for the night. The flood watch has now been dropped in Nebraska, though northeast Colorado still has it going on (and Sterling is still getting pounded).

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:17:54pm
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ckkatz  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:19:57pm

re: #183 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Not too hard to guess what rang Kelsey’s alarm bell when thalidomide came along. Early in her career, in 1938, she was part of the team that investigated the mass poisonings that resulted from the introduction of Elixir sulfanilamide. The manufacturer, SE Massengill, had used ethylene glycol as a solvent in the product. Their chief chemist, Harold Watkins, did not know that ethylene glycol is poisonous, even though it had been on the market for several years and there was already a fair amount of medical literature on the risks. 107 people died, 108 if you count Watkins, who committed suicide. This case led directly to the 1938 Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act that Kelsey was enforcing when she barred thalidomide.

Fascinating case! Thanks for posting (and reposting) it!

Just reading about the Elixir sulfanilamide case. While 108 is precise, I wonder if it is complete.

Here is an FDA description of the investigators tracking down one death:

Similarly, a South Carolina doctor told an inspector that he had dispensed the medicine to only five people and none had died. But when the inspector began asking questions around town, someone told him of the death of a lumber mill employee. The inspector recognized the symptoms as those characteristic of Elixir Sulfanilamide poisoning. Through the mill superintendent, he located the employee’s sister. Yes, she said, her brother had gone to the doctor and had been given some red medicine before he died. She told the inspector that, in accordance with custom, all medicines and sickroom utensils had been placed on the grave, about one and a half miles back in the fields. Accompanied by family and friends, the dead man’s sister and the inspector walked to the wooded knoll. On the single mound of fresh earth were several bottles, dishes, spoons, and a 4-ounce bottle containing about 1 ounce of Elixir of Sulfanilamide. It bore the weathered but legible prescription label of the doctor. In fact, the inspector learned, four of the doctor’s patients had died after taking the elixir.

The investigators apparently did track down all 240 gallons of Elixir sulfanilamide supposedly manufactured. And did due diligence on all missing amounts, though.
fda.gov

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:25:40pm

This is beyond disgusting. Shows what a human turd Bannon is.

“Let them call you racist, let them call you xenophobes, let them call you nativists. Wear it like a badge of honour. Because every day we get stronger and they get weaker,” he said, before concluding on a “God Bless America. And vive la France,” sending FN supporters leaping to their feet to cheer.

He says he is a Leninist. And he’s far more dangerous than Lenin ever was.

Wear ‘racist’ like a badge of honour, Bannon tells French far-right summit

FUCK HIM!

france24.com

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BigPapa  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:27:08pm

re: #187 Dave In Austin

Fuck man, I really wanted to be a Viking and they screwed it all up. Racists really want to make everything suck.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:28:27pm

Trump, of course, does not know about this and wouldn’t care if he did.
List of medicine contamination incidents

2007 Panamanian Eduardo Arias discovered that toothpaste sold in his country was labeled as containing diethylene glycol, the same ingredient that had tainted cough syrup and killed 138 Panamanians in 2006. Panamanian officials discovered that the toothpaste had come from China and initiated a global response. Also in May 2007, the same toothpaste was found in some Costa Rican stores. Fast action by the Ministry of Health, and notification through the media, prevented poisonings due to this product. This event was linked to the death sentence of a former pharmaceuticals control officer in China, as the Costa Rican newspaper La Nación reported on its issue of May 30. On June 4, 2007, a press release by the Chinese Foreign Ministry cited an earlier study in China which concluded that up to 15.6% diethylene glycol in toothpaste is safe. In June 2007, counterfeit Colgate toothpaste imported from China was found to be contaminated with DEG, and several people in the eastern US reported experiencing headaches and pain after using the product. The same occurred in Spain with a false Colgate toothpaste, which contained 6% DEG. The tainted products could be identified by the claim to be manufactured in South Africa by Colgate-Palmolive South Africa LTD; they were 5 oz/100 ml tubes (a size which Colgate does not sell in the United States) and their packaging contained numerous misspellings on the labels. Colgate-Palmolive claimed it does not import products from South Africa into the United States or Canada and that DEG is never and was never used in any of its products anywhere in the world. These counterfeit products were found in smaller mom and pop stores, dollar stores, and discount stores in at least four states. In July 2007, diethylene glycol was found in counterfeit Sensodyne toothpaste, on sale at a car boot sale in Derbyshire, England.

2007 Toxic cough syrup in Panama: Pharmaceutical manufacturers used diethylene glycol, which they believed to be glycerine, to make cough syrup.

2008 Chinese heparin adulteration

2009, 84 Nigerian children were reported to have died after being given “My Pikin”, a teething syrup contaminated with diethylene glycol.

2012: As of 2 November 2012 in the New England Compounding Center meningitis outbreak, 753 cases of fungal infection occurred with 64 deaths due to contaminated injectable medication.

2012: 2012 Pakistan fake medicine crisis

Note that Diethylene glycol has figured in quite a few of these incidents. The stuff has a sweet taste and fly-by-night manufacturers apparently see it as a substitute for more expensive sweeteners. Unfortunately, it kills people stone dead.

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sagehen  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:37:11pm

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹🎃

In NE-3, Adrian Smith has filed for reëlection. No Democrat has filed (there’s something I could do, bankrupt myself running to turf out my congressman).

Do you have no faith in the donation process?

Most of the people here, and a significant number of Kossacks, would send money to your campaign.

If you serve only one term, the pay is enough for you to put aside some savings; if you serve 3 terms, you qualify for a significant pension.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:37:21pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:37:22pm

re: #171 ckkatz

YOINK

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teleskiguy  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:39:15pm

Tool’s entire discography is now available on all streaming services. And a new album at the end of the month. Weird times, indeed.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:39:19pm

America’s latest favorite torture show, Spin The Wheel, had a couple of rather easy US geography questions tonight.

The contestant got one of them right… but mostly by accident it would seem given her explanation.

The question was:

In what state does the Mississippi river delta empty into the ocean?

The show features contestants who are the ultimate protagonists, those who do amazing heroic or good things, so we’ll cheer them on.

The contestants, though, are not necessarily that well educated. The previous week’s contestant was a history teacher, and he missed some questions that left me perplexed as to how he could have, but he did.

Anyway, Monty Hall would have been intrigued by the math of this game.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:42:56pm

re: #188 Anymouse 🌹🎃

That sounds a bit like the welfare queen argument: People have kids to collect food stamps.

Earned Income Credit partially works that way now, and people aren’t having children to boost their EIC.

There’s a whole lot more to raising a child than food and shelter.

In the meantime, I’m going to bow out for the night. The flood watch has now been dropped in Nebraska, though northeast Colorado still has it going on (and Sterling is still getting pounded).

No, people aren’t having children to boost their EIC, because in part the law of diminishing returns, but there are people fostering and adopting kids and gladly accepting the income. I do not, though, want to encourage quiverfull families to have ten kids to earn 10k per month because the flipside is that the cost per kid goes down as you get more.

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fern01  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:42:58pm

re: #156 Hecuba’s daughter

My sister and I discussed the candidates and her position is that Williamson is the only one that Trump would be willing to debate. Kamala would shred him into little pieces — there is no way Trump would share the stage with her. And the Berniacs have been attacking her for awhile. OTOH she probably will visit Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania — and Comey isn’t FBI director — so she does have that going for her.

My fear is that our Constitution will be the death of us — especially the Electoral College and the power of the Senate, where a majority can be based on states that represent less than 20% of the population and the 2/3 for overriding a veto can be based on states that have less than a third of the population.

I doubt trump will debate any of them. The media gives him all the coverage he needs by showing his hate rallies, so no benefit to a debate.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:44:06pm

re: #191 Joe Bacon 🌹

This is beyond disgusting. Shows what a human turd Bannon is.

“Let them call you racist, let them call you xenophobes, let them call you nativists. Wear it like a badge of honour. Because every day we get stronger and they get weaker,” he said, before concluding on a “God Bless America. And vive la France,” sending FN supporters leaping to their feet to cheer.

He says he is a Leninist. And he’s far more dangerous than Lenin ever was.

Wear ‘racist’ like a badge of honour, Bannon tells French far-right summit

FUCK HIM!

france24.com

Yeah, look at the pictures of the number of white supremacists vs counterprotesters in Boston.

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fern01  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:46:02pm

re: #168 MsJ

There’s a better reason… The time is coming when there will not be enough jobs to sustain the populace. Hungry and desperate people turn to crime.

This was tried in the past with criminals, paying them a monthly income. Crime dropped SIGNIFICANTLY.

When they have no alternative, what else is left. Safety nets to catch these people will always reduce crime.

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:46:46pm

This might actually mean that Harris should be AG, but I want her near the top going after ICE and CBP people for the way they have treated migrants.

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sagehen  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:50:22pm

re: #174 William Lewis

I remember that idea as being one of the few things Milton ever said that made sense. I think this would be a better way to do it than have to figure out how far under a baseline someone is. Just do an automatic payment into every person’s bank account once a month, perhaps on the SSI schedule?

With UBI, there’d be no need for food stamps, section 8 housing, minimum wage.

$100M a year would be enough for 4000 families, which is enough people to revive half a dozen empty small towns in the midwest. And those towns would then each need a new grocery store, a coffee shop, some elementary school teachers, a gardening supply store, a craft supply store, an auto mechanic…

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Belafon  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:50:35pm

I saw that one of RFK’s granddaughters died, and it looks like an overdose.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:52:30pm
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fern01  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:56:05pm

re: #206 Dave In Austin

Always the women - can’t be a woman & speak loudly or get incensed about the behavior of RW white males. I beg to live long enough to see a woman President take down the misogynist media RW bigots.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 1, 2019 • 9:59:39pm
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Dread Pirate  Aug 1, 2019 • 10:02:59pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 1, 2019 • 10:12:13pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 1, 2019 • 10:13:40pm

Random thought: Whichever one of you recommended Letterkenny has my gratitude.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 1, 2019 • 10:23:00pm

re: #211 goddamnedfrank

Random thought: Whichever one of you recommended Letterkenny has my gratitude.

Might have been me. I heard about it from a guy in Australia. Series #7 is coming up on October 11 in Canada. Should be on the internet within 20 minutes of the ending of the first episode.

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BigPapa  Aug 1, 2019 • 10:41:45pm

While we’re still shocked at getting gamed in social media by bad actors I wonder if this the new normal. Stopping it will be impossible, education may be the best resistance to it.

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Targetpractice  Aug 1, 2019 • 10:44:35pm

re: #184 MsJ

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This coming weeks after the NC GOP was forced to admit to the level of fuckery that had gone on in NC-09, which was proceeded by months of arguing that even if there was fraud on a level rarely seen since the days of Tammany Hall, their guy won and so deserved to be seated.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 1, 2019 • 10:53:57pm
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Dave In Austin  Aug 1, 2019 • 11:15:12pm
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BigPapa  Aug 1, 2019 • 11:42:09pm

re: #216 Dave In Austin

Holy shee-et. Hard to listen to that and not grin the whole time while you’re poppin the knee and craving beer and BBQ.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 1, 2019 • 11:45:01pm
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Dread Pirate  Aug 2, 2019 • 12:52:03am
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Dread Pirate  Aug 2, 2019 • 12:54:44am

My wife walks by and asks, “Why are you wearing a headlamp?”

“To see the needle on the decibel meter, duh.”

Women.

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teleskiguy  Aug 2, 2019 • 12:55:59am

re: #219 Dread Pirate

Crocodile tears. He’s a charter member of the Tea Party back in 2010.

He blocked me after I sent this.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 2, 2019 • 1:07:31am
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teleskiguy  Aug 2, 2019 • 1:31:51am

re: #205 Belafon

I saw that one of RFK’s granddaughters died, and it looks like an overdose.

A 22-year-old granddaughter of the late Robert F. Kennedy died on Thursday following an apparent overdose at the family’s compound in Hyannis Port, Massachusetts, the New York Times reported.

Saoirse Kennedy Hill was at the compound, the home of her grandmother, Ethel Kennedy, 91, when emergency personnel were called Thursday afternoon to the residence, and she was taken to Cape Cod Hospital in Hyannis, the Times said, citing family and friends.

22 years old. Fuck, man.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 2, 2019 • 1:46:10am
MOSCOW (Sputnik) - US President Donald Trump has signed an executive order introducing a second round of sanctions against Russia in relation to the poisoning of former intelligence officer Sergei Skripal in the United Kingdom in 2018, which Moscow has denied, Politico reported on Friday, citing two US officials.

Are they Potemkin sanctions?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2019 • 2:15:13am

re: #224 Dread Pirate

Are they Potemkin sanctions?

ask Mitch about his aluminum plant

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 3:06:55am

re: #146 MsJ

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2008 but yes.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2019 • 3:16:41am

Is he still talking?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 3:21:16am

re: #223 teleskiguy

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22 years old. Fuck, man.

Awful. Poor Ethel has seen too much tragedy in her life. Not just through being a Kennedy. I believe her folks died in a plane crash.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 3:34:21am

re: #221 teleskiguy

Crocodile tears. He’s a charter member of the Tea Party back in 2010.

He blocked me after I sent this.

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He showed his true colors on the First Responders Bill.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 2, 2019 • 3:41:38am
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BlueSpotinAL  Aug 2, 2019 • 4:43:34am

Trump voter “If Trump murdered right person, I still might vote for him.”

“I’m not deplorable, you’re the real deplorable!”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 4:45:30am

re: #231 BlueSpotinAL

“I’m not deplorable, you’re the real deplorable!”

Well I don’t approve of his Bart killing policy but I do of his Selma killing policy.//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2019 • 4:46:10am

Murdering the “right” person is easy: anyone who could possibly be perceived as a threat to America, a potential terrorist, rapist, drug dealer…

and that category is being broadened on a daily basis, heck, even being born in America does not seem to suffice to be a non-person.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 2, 2019 • 4:58:07am

Looks like it’s official - the US is walking away from the 1987 INF Treaty.

The United States formally withdrew from the landmark Intermediate-range Nuclear Force pact with Russia on Friday after determining that the Kremlin had violated the treaty and had no plans to come back into compliance with it. US officials also announced plans to test a new missile that would have been banned under the terms of the INF in the coming weeks.

“Russia is solely responsible for the treaty’s demise,” US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said in a statement released early Friday. “The United States will not remain party to a treaty that is deliberately violated by Russia,” he added.

dw.com

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 4:59:54am

re: #234 Dr Lizardo

Looks like it’s official - the US is walking away from the INF Treaty.

dw.com

Gah.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:00:34am

re: #234 Dr Lizardo

Looks like it’s official - the US is walking away from the INF Treaty.

dw.com

treaties are a sign of weakness. a truly Great America does whatever it wants, when and wherever it wants!!!

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:02:07am

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

treaties are a sign of weakness. a truly Great America does whatever it wants, when and wherever it wants!!!

Not content with shitting all over Obama’s presidential tenure, Donald Trump has now moved on to shitting all over Ronald Reagan’s presidency.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:09:49am

Looks like things are slowing down economically here in Czech Republic:

Conditions in domestic industry markedly deteriorated again, according to the July Purchasing Managers Index (PMI), which fell from 45.9 in June to 43.1 in July, the weakest level in 10 years

The manufacturing PMI, together with industrial confidence indicators clearly indicate that the situation in domestic industry remains very fragile this year. That said, the latest hard data from industry surprised rather positively both in May and April, growing above 3% year-on-year. Still, a slowdown in the second half of the year is probably inevitable based on the early-warning indicators, and July’s industrial production is likely to fall in YoY terms, according to our estimates.

Of course, the sour mood in July was not just seen in Czech industry but also in many neighbouring countries as well. Germany’s PMI fell further to 43.2 points in July, reaching its lowest level in seven years. Survey participants attributed current problems to a slowdown in the automotive sector and trade wars. In Poland, the manufacturing PMI reached 47.4 points in July, the lowest since April 2013, while Hungary’s PMI hit a three-year low, although it remained slightly above the key 50 threshold. The July PMIs from China also remained in contraction territory, although they showed a slight improvement from the previous month. As such, leading PMIs continue to confirm that the industrial situation remains fragile this year and the outlook for industrial production remains highly uncertain, not only for the Czech economy, but globally.

think.ing.com

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:11:13am

re: #238 Dr Lizardo

Looks like things are slowing down economically here in Czech Republic:

think.ing.com

I just hope that doesn’t help some demagogue douche rise.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:14:19am

re: #239 HappyWarrior

I just hope that doesn’t help some demagogue douche rise.

Too late. We’ve already got one. Granted, he’s nowhere near as odious as Hungary’s Viktor Orbán, but he’s still a corrupt, populist prick.

And there’s worse waiting in the wings.

en.wikipedia.org

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Targetpractice  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:16:21am

re: #234 Dr Lizardo

Looks like it’s official - the US is walking away from the 1987 INF Treaty.

dw.com

So, for the record, Donny remains totally unable to negotiate a meaningful treaty or agreement, but has killed several in his single-minded quest to destroy the legacies of anyone not named “Trump.” Though, like more things, I imagine this was something that an underling talked him into. There’s no small amount of coincidence in the fact that the DoD wants to test a system that would have been in violation of the INF Treaty now that the administration has officially scrapped it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:16:44am

re: #240 Dr Lizardo

Too late. We’ve already got one. Granted, he’s nowhere near as odious as Hungary’s Viktor Orbán, but he’s still a corrupt, populist prick.

And there’s worse waiting in the wings.

en.wikipedia.org

Sigh. That’s disappointing. Really do not like this nationalist bs going on.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:17:53am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:19:43am

re: #241 Targetpractice

Though, like more things, I imagine this was something that an underling talked him into. There’s no small amount of coincidence in the fact that the DoD wants to test a system that would have been in violation of the INF Treaty now that the administration has officially scrapped it.

Which further proves (as if we needed proof) that shit-for-brains is a weak leader.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:22:21am

re: #243 Patricia Kayden

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What the fuck is wrong with him? Spiteful douchebag cannot shut the fuck up.

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jeffreyw  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:23:35am

Good morning!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:24:22am

re: #243 Patricia Kayden

When do the brown-shirts start matching openly?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:26:07am

re: #247 Colère Tueur de Lapin

When do the brown-shirts start matching openly?

they need an excuse to “defend” their own against the depredations of rapists, drug dealers, terrorists, etc.

those can be quickly arranged…

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:26:49am

re: #247 Colère Tueur de Lapin

When do the brown-shirts start matching openly?

Weren’t they marching in Charlottesville?

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Targetpractice  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:34:17am

re: #243 Patricia Kayden

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I started to say “He’s not going to stop until someone gets killed,” but I realized he won’t stop even then. If Cummings should end up killed by MAGAt, Donny will not hesitate to pin the blame upon everybody but himself.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:34:45am

I would like just one day where he acts like a decent human being. Just one.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:35:50am

re: #250 Targetpractice

I started to say “He’s not going to stop until someone gets killed,” but I realized he won’t stop even then. If Cummings should end up killed by MAGAt, Donny will not hesitate to pin the blame upon everybody but himself.

He’d double down on his hateful crap directed at Cummings district even if the shooter was wearing a red hat. He’s fucking dangerous.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:36:53am

re: #250 Targetpractice

I started to say “He’s not going to stop until someone gets killed,” but I realized he won’t stop even then. If Cummings should end up killed by MAGAt, Donny will not hesitate to pin the blame upon everybody but himself.

someone getting killed will just be the start, then the sides will be truly drawn.

if the victim is on his side, it will be calls for justice and revenge, if the victim is an opponent, expect to see be an unparalleled smear campaign dragging in everyone they were associated with

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:39:28am

re: #251 HappyWarrior

I would like just one day where he acts like a decent human being. Just one.

That’s not possible.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:42:19am

re: #254 Patricia Kayden

That’s not possible.

Nope. He’s quite honestly one of the most deplorable Americans to ever live. Up there with John Wilkes Booth, Benedict Arnold, & Robert Hannsen.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:47:24am

re: #221 teleskiguy

Crocodile tears. He’s a charter member of the Tea Party back in 2010.

He blocked me after I sent this.

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Other than wanting a Grover Norquist approach to the size of the federal government, has Amash ever actually threatened physical violence against anyone? I don’t recall that he made any statement comparable to that of the pre-“wokish” Joe Walsh who threatened violence if Hillary won.

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:48:10am

who knew I’d need this again ?
He never learns
It’s the only weapon he’s got; the only thing he knows to do

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:52:24am

re: #253 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

someone getting killed will just be the start, then the sides will be truly drawn.

if the victim is on his side, it will be calls for justice and revenge, if the victim is an opponent, expect to see be an unparalleled smear campaign dragging in everyone they were associated with

Bill O’Reilly never apologized for his language that contributed to Tiller’s death. So, no, Trump won’t care.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:53:56am

re: #258 Hecuba’s daughter

Bill O’Reilly never apologized for his language that contributed to Tiller’s death. So, no, Trump won’t care.

TBH I would expect him to double down. I haven’t seen him once admit he was wrong or show any humility ever.

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:00:18am

re: #37 MsJ

Chips and gravy.

Chips and curry? Hmmm… I’d have to try that (though it seems like aloo gobi is a gateway to that one).

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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:03:15am

re: #173 Ace Rothstein

July job report tomorrow. I’ll make the over/under +165,000.

+164,000

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Dave In Austin  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:04:50am

The sad thing is that I’m outraged and not surprised at the same time.

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:06:23am
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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:06:47am

re: #262 Dave In Austin

The sad thing is that I’m outraged and not surprised at the same time.

“Too bad!” is not something you say when you’re being sincere.

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:14:39am

re: #247 Colère Tueur de Lapin

When do the brown-shirts start matching openly?

When larger crowds opposing them stop showing up.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:15:46am

re: #264 Belafon

“Too bad!” is not something you say when you’re being sincere.

It’s how a bully acts. And his advisers make this okay by saying he’s just fighting back.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:17:05am

re: #263 Belafon

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They are weirdos and lemme be honest cowards. There’s nothing badass about bringing a loaded open gun to a diner.

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:18:20am
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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:20:43am

I’m saving this one for people who try to say he isn’t being racist:

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:23:17am

Yep re: #269 Belafon

I’m saving this one for people who try to say he isn’t being racist:

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I’m really hoping it’s rejected soundly. This cannot happen here ever again. Trumpism needs to be repudiated by voters of all stripes.

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:23:22am

re: #269 Belafon

Anger of the people left behind?

Nope. It’s the anger of the white guys who think that blacks are why they can’t find jobs in Appalachia or that their farming communities are going to shit because of illegal immigration, or that the Rust Belt can’t reinvent itself because blacks are getting their resources.

It’s racism. That’s what Trump has tapped into, and the economic anxiety is the veneer of all of it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:25:16am

re: #271 lawhawk

Anger of the people left behind?

Nope. It’s the anger of the white guys who think that blacks are why they can’t find jobs in Appalachia or that their farming communities are going to shit because of illegal immigration, or that the Rust Belt can’t reinvent itself because blacks are getting their resources.

It’s racism. That’s what Trump has tapped into, and the economic anxiety is the veneer of all of it.

They chose to be left behind the way I see it and I’m sick of the excuses for them. You’re absolutely right. It’s pure racism and Trump is the captain of the ship. They can fuck off.

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:27:57am

re: #272 HappyWarrior

They didn’t want the tough and insightful responses of Clinton who said there aren’t easy answers for folks who can’t afford to move from where the jobs have disappeared to where they are being created. It takes time to reinvent a community, as Pittsburgh has done, and that city has all kinds of advantages such as universities of renown and cultural centers that can attract people to them. Not every town or even city has that.

And telling people that coal is coming back, or that steel tariffs will save their shuttered steel mill is just flat out lying. Trump tapped into fact that people would rather hear the confirmation bias than the hard truths.

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:29:28am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:30:05am

re: #273 lawhawk

They didn’t want the tough and insightful responses of Clinton who said there aren’t easy answers for folks who can’t afford to move from where the jobs have disappeared to where they are being created. It takes time to reinvent a community, as Pittsburgh has done, and that city has all kinds of advantages such as universities of renown and cultural centers that can attract people to them. Not every town or even city has that.

And telling people that coal is coming back, or that steel tariffs will save their shuttered steel mill is just flat out lying. Trump tapped into fact that people would rather hear the confirmation bias than the hard truths.

Pittsburgh is a great example. But yes they chose to accept Trunos lies and simple answers rather than listen to the truth that HRC gave them. Yet Trump gets framed as tells as is type. He’s the opposite. A bullshit artist.

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:37:37am

re: #230 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

What do you think of this year’s Shark Week?

I was disappointed in last year’s offerings and don’t think much more of this year. They seem to have gone away from the science and into the weird (DON’T TRY THIS AT HOME!) kind of sensationalism. I think it harms more than helps these days.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:41:22am

google.com

Didn’t see this here. This is I an Millennial don’t bash Boomers. We have shitty people and my parents generation has people who want to stop this bs.

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jeffreyw  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:45:18am

Fries with mushroom gravy and cheese.

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:48:12am

re: #278 jeffreyw

Disco fries.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:50:06am

re: #271 lawhawk

It’s racism. That’s what Trump has tapped into, and the economic anxiety is the veneer of all of it.

I grew up in Gary, Indiana and saw what those people were like when things started to go south. They were already full-on racist long before the “economic anxiety” set in

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:01:54am

re: #274 lawhawk

Great thread!

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:03:27am

re: #279 lawhawk

Disco fries.

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Disco Fries looks like it has a fried egg on the bottom. Now that is something I could get behind.

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:04:11am

re: #281 MsJ

Great thread!

We should start referring to them as the GWP, the Grand Wizard Party.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:06:54am

re: #273 lawhawk

They didn’t want the tough and insightful responses of Clinton who said there aren’t easy answers for folks who can’t afford to move from where the jobs have disappeared to where they are being created. It takes time to reinvent a community, as Pittsburgh has done, and that city has all kinds of advantages such as universities of renown and cultural centers that can attract people to them. Not every town or even city has that.

And telling people that coal is coming back, or that steel tariffs will save their shuttered steel mill is just flat out lying. Trump tapped into fact that people would rather hear the confirmation bias than the hard truths.

Hillary faced ruthless attacks from the MSM as well as the FBI efforts to derail her, but her failure to visit the 3 states(WI, MI, PA) certainly contributed to her loss. OTOH, Trump also gave some very effective speeches during the campaign, where he didn’t rant about immigrants and POC or demonize others, but instead expressed empathy toward the working class.

Broken record here: No party has figured out how to replace the good jobs lost to off-shoring and technology. Andrew Yang may be getting a boost because he is serious about this issue — but he hasn’t found a real solution either. Trump gave his audience a false hope and the MSM failed to do its job to inform the audience that he had never been anything more than a con man.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:12:29am

Trump promised that he would cut taxes and regulations and those jobs would come booming back

Hillary tried to tell them that those jobs are gone and the way back is a long and difficult one

People chose wishful thinking over reality

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nowherenorth2  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:12:35am

re: #279 lawhawk

Poutine

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William Lewis  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:15:39am

Ham hash
Scrambled eggs
toast with homemade black cap jelly
big mug of tea

and it’s a day off… :D

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:16:15am

The mines were on the decline years ago. Yeah I feel bad if that’s all you’ve ever known but economies are constantly adapting to new realities. It’s not as if HRC promised nothing. People don’t like hard truths and complex answers and that I’m sad to say is why people like Trump and yes Bernie too appeal just like Ron Paul had appeal too.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:16:39am

re: #287 William Lewis

Ham hash
Scrambled eggs
toast with homemade black cap jelly
big mug of tea

and it’s a day off… :D

Sweet. Had a breakfast burrito here.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:17:47am

Just saying things without thinking is today’s GOP!

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Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:18:53am

What you really saw in the second debates:

The Second Democratic Debate In 5 Charts

fivethirtyeight.com

I love the smell of metrics in the morning.

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:19:35am

re: #290 jaunte

Just saying things without thinking is today’s GOP!

Yeah, most of them think Medicare is socialism, where socialism is defined as requiring the rich to care about their lessers.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:21:58am

House majority leader to colleagues in 2016: ‘“I think Putin pays Trump”
washingtonpost.com

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:22:22am

re: #292 Belafon

Yeah, most of them think Medicare is socialism, where socialism is defined as requiring the rich to care about their lessers.

Yet they think nothing of receiving taxpayer funded health insurance and having their salaries paid by us.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:23:34am

re: #275 HappyWarrior

Pittsburgh is a great example. But yes they chose to accept Trunos lies and simple answers rather than listen to the truth that HRC gave them. Yet Trump gets framed as tells as is type. He’s the opposite. A bullshit artist.

I heard Trump claims that he is actually a standup philosopher.
//

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:27:34am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

Sweet. Had a breakfast burrito here.

Hmm. Wasn’t my morning for eggs and such.* Yogurt with blueberries and sliced banana for me along with a cup of coffee.

* - About once a week I hit a local diner in the morning and get Eggs Benedict served with fried tomato slice and avocado on it. Plus bacon on the side to go with the home fries.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:28:07am

re: #121 Belafon

There are successful businesses running their data and cloud services completely in Amazon. It really is the best company for this job.

And Amazon makes it easy to move things to the AWS cloud platform with Snowball and Snowmobile.

Decades ago the joke was “Never under-estimate the bandwith of a station wagon filled with tapes” to “Never underestimate the bandwidth of an An-225 loaded with 1 TB microSD cards”

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:28:19am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:29:31am

re: #298 jaunte

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CNN’s resident concern troll was upset about Kamala’s temper. I seriously feel like I’m in a really bad dystopian novel sometimes.

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:31:14am

re: #299 HappyWarrior

CNN’s resident concern troll was upset about Kamala’s temper. I seriously feel like I’m in a really bad dystopian novel sometimes.

One thing to note about every dystopian novel is they all have a back story about people messing up to get where they are.

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:31:51am

re: #219 Dread Pirate

@realDonaldTrump
Budget Deal is phenomenal for our Great Military, our Vets, and Jobs, Jobs, Jobs! Two year deal gets us past the Election. Go for it Republicans, there is always plenty of time to CUT!

so pass a ‘fake’ budget deal to help win the election then gut it later?

you just told everyone you’re lying to our faces
and sigh, 43% think this is great!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:31:59am

If Warren is too radical and Trump isn’t. Our country’s priorities are fucked. And I’m not even sold on Warren’s policies.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:32:21am

re: #299 HappyWarrior

Just considering events of the last few years it’s surprising the D candidates are able to suppress their rage.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:32:50am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

The mines were on the decline years ago. Yeah I feel bad if that’s all you’ve ever known but economies are constantly adapting to new realities. It’s not as if HRC promised nothing. People don’t like hard truths and complex answers and that I’m sad to say is why people like Trump and yes Bernie too appeal just like Ron Paul had appeal too.

They have memories of a time when a guy with only a high school education could go to work and earn enough to support a family, buy a house and even a boat or a vacation home on the lake…

those days are gone and they do not want to admit it

clinging to those memories along with their guns and Bibles

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:32:59am

Temper?

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:33:27am

re: #301 DangerMan

so pass a ‘fake’ budget deal to help win the election then gut it later?

you just told everyone you’re lying to our faces
and sigh, 43% think this is great!

“It’s a great deal four our troops, which means I can transfer those funds to my wall, thanks to the Supreme Court!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:35:07am

re: #305 jaunte

“My baby has not eaten a full meal in 15 days. I am very worried and don’t know what to do.”

“You shouldn’t bring your child along if he is a picky eater!”

/

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:35:19am

Trump administration deliberately starving infants, but don’t get mad.

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:35:47am

re: #304 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They have memories of a time when a guy with only a high school education could go to work and earn enough to support a family, buy a house and even a boat or a vacation home on the lake…

those days are gone and they do not want to admit it

clinging to those memories along with their guns and Bibles

My kids and their friends, when they graduated from high school, could qualify in a few months to do the jobs Clinton was offering training for for the coal miners. They don’t just want jobs that take only a high school diploma, they want jobs that don’t require any education.

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:36:09am

re: #234 Dr Lizardo

Looks like it’s official - the US is walking away from the 1987 INF Treaty.

dw.com

- The United States formally withdrew from the landmark Intermediate-range Nuclear Force pact with Russia

“Russia is solely responsible for the treaty’s demise,” US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said in a statement released early Friday. “The United States will not remain party to a treaty that is deliberately violated by Russia,” he added

there were verification provisions in the treaty
you have to do the work of enforcing them

who was it said ‘trust but verify’ in relation to signing this specific deal?
right to gorbachev’s face at the press conference?
and gorby said “you say that at every opportunity”
it escapes me….

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:37:57am

re: #243 Patricia Kayden

The piece of shit in the Oval Office just GLOATED about Rep. Elijah Cummings’ house being robbed.

Reminds me of those mob movies where the guy says “it’d be a shame if something bad should happen to you,” and you know THAT guy is the bad something.

so prestige
such presidential

the guy’s gold plated trailer trash
(no offense to trailers, trash, or actual trailer trash)

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jeffreyw  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:41:10am

re: #293 jaunte

House majority leader to colleagues in 2016: ‘“I think Putin pays Trump”
washingtonpost.com

That is always portrayed as a sly dig at Trump. We now know it was envy.

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BigPapa  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:41:12am

‘We hate being called racist but stand by what Racist Grandpa says’

‘No, you’re the racist’

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:42:09am

re: #269 Belafon

I’m saving this one for people who try to say he isn’t being racist:

Trump campaign sees political advantage in a divisive appeal to working-class white voters
Republican officials say the president is harnessing the anger of those who continue to feel left behind despite the strong economy.

if you feel ‘left behind’ despite a ‘strong economy’ maybe your anger and trump’s appeal to you isnt economic

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:43:14am

re: #309 Belafon

My kids and their friends, when they graduated from high school, could qualify in a few months to do the jobs Clinton was offering training for for the coal miners. They don’t just want jobs that take only a high school diploma, they want jobs that don’t require any education.

White men’s jobs!

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:43:29am

Damn, this is some trailer.

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:45:29am

re: #279 lawhawk

Disco fries.

Mick Jagger says the band went to the Tick Tock Dinner to have Taylor ham egg and cheese, disco fries and a sloppy joe. I almost fainted.

we met the guy who would perform our marriage ceremony at the Tick Tock

ok we’re not the stones, but still..

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:47:16am

re: #284 Hecuba’s daughter

“but her failure to visit the 3 states(WI, MI, PA)”

*bulkshit*

Campaign by the numbers:
States Hillary visited the most: PA, FL, and OH.

CLINTON
Days spent there since clinching nomination on June 7:

FLORIDA: 15
OHIO: 15
PENNSYLVANIA: 15
NORTH CAROLINA: 11
NEVADA: 6
NEW HAMPSHIRE: 4
MICHIGAN: 4
IOWA: 3 (+ 1 event on the Iowa/Illinois border)
COLORADO: 3
VIRGINIA: 2
ARIZONA: 1
MINNESOTA: 1
WISCONSIN: 0
GEORGIA: 0
Days spent there in final month before election (since Oct. 8):

FLORIDA: 8
OHIO: 5
PENNSYLVANIA: 5
NORTH CAROLINA: 4
NEVADA: 3
MICHIGAN: 3
NEW HAMPSHIRE: 2
IOWA: 1
COLORADO: 1
ARIZONA: 1
VIRGINIA: 0
MINNESOTA: 0

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:51:10am

Time for the Pledge:

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:51:19am

re: #284 Hecuba’s daughter

Hillary faced ruthless attacks from the MSM as well as the FBI efforts to derail her, but her failure to visit the 3 states(WI, MI, PA) certainly contributed to her loss. OTOH, Trump also gave some very effective speeches during the campaign, where he didn’t rant about immigrants and POC or demonize others, but instead expressed empathy toward the working class.

Broken record here: No party has figured out how to replace the good jobs lost to off-shoring and technology. Andrew Yang may be getting a boost because he is serious about this issue — but he hasn’t found a real solution either. Trump gave his audience a false hope and the MSM failed to do its job to inform the audience that he had never been anything more than a con man.

- imo there isnt a political solution that can be solved by a president or a party

- and there certainly cant be one when those affected refuse to see the reality that’s slapping them in the puss

industries come and go
some people get in at the front end, some refuse to see the back end coming
companies come and go, ditto the front and back ends
people start businesses, people decide to sell or close businesses, again ditto

no one is guaranteed a job, an industry, a career
things change, industries change, rules, requirements, standards, change. markets change.

your job changes.
deal with it or dont, at your peril.
because ‘the government’, if it does anything, deals in macro, not the micro of y.o.u.

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:53:24am

re: #320 DangerMan

- imo there isnt a political solution that can be solved by a president or a party

- and there certainly cant be one when those affected refuse to see the reality that’s slapping them in the puss

industries come and go
some people get in at the front end, some refuse to see the back end coming
companies come and go, ditto the front and back ends
people start businesses, people decide to sell or close businesses, again ditto

no one is guaranteed a job, an industry, a career
things change, industries change, rules, requirements, standards, change. markets change.

your job changes.
deal with it or dont, at your peril.
because ‘the government’, if it does anything, deals in macro, not the micro of y.o.u.

And as hard as it is, you sometimes have to leave where you are from to succeed. As much as I hate Ancestry, they have a commercial where two Irish people are talking and the woman says they have to leave because the “boy’s ribs are showing”. There are a lot of ribs showing in rural areas because there is nothing to sustain those areas.

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:57:07am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:57:21am

re: #315 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

White men’s jobs!

It’s hard to tell under ground.

African American Coal Miners: Helen, WV
nps.gov

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garzooma  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:57:32am

re: #317 DangerMan

we met the guy who would perform our marriage ceremony at the Tick Tock

The Tick Tock is an odd place for a marriage ceremony.
:-)

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:01:17am

re: #320 DangerMan

- …
your job changes.
deal with it or dont, at your peril.
because ‘the government’, if it does anything, deals in macro, not the micro of y.o.u.

and let me be clear

im not saying “just pack up and move” or “get retraining” or any simple, glib panacea

only that your economic future and well-being is on you
government is always slow to react and it’s solutions, by it’s nature, are never adequate, comprehensive, nor full coverage

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:01:33am

Maybe it’s just me, but this looks gross af.

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:02:31am

re: #325 DangerMan

and let me be clear

im not saying “just pack up and move” or “get retraining” or any simple, glib panacea

only that your economic future and well-being is on you
government is always slow to react and it’s solutions, by it’s nature, are never adequate, comprehensive, nor full coverage

Understood. But sometimes you have to just pack up and move. Unless you are the one starting the business, if there is nothing there for you…then what?

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steve_davis  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:03:14am

re: #31 Targetpractice

Coffin? I think the fucker expects to get the full Lenin treatment: Hugh mausoleum with his body permanently on display in a preserved state.

he’ll be exhibited in a hanging cage and eaten by the fucking birds.

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:03:41am

re: #323 Decatur Deb

It’s hard to tell under ground.

African American Coal Miners: Helen, WV
nps.gov

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down deep, i want to be with the the smartest, most experienced workers
idgaf what color they are or what language they speak

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:03:57am

re: #328 steve_davis

he’ll be exhibited in a hanging cage and eaten by the fucking birds.

I would PPV that. $39.95? I am in.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:04:38am

re: #319 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I like Archer’s prayer:

Archers “Bloody Mary prayer”

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steve_davis  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:04:49am

re: #43 The Pie Overlord!

Nope. None of them get saved.

I would maybe allow the fries with that gravy in the lifeboat, if there was room.

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:06:08am

re: #324 garzooma

The Tick Tock is an odd place for a marriage ceremony.
:-)

yeah yeah
the wedding was some months later at the liberty house in liberty state park

though the tick tock might have been a blast

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jeffreyw  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:07:22am

re: #324 garzooma

The Tick Tock is an odd place for a marriage ceremony.
:-)

Not if you really like fries!

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:10:25am

re: #327 MsJ

Understood. But sometimes you have to just pack up and move. Unless you are the one starting the business, if there is nothing there for you…then what?

oh absolutely, as your individual circumstances dictate
sometimes you have to move regardless of what or who you leave behind
sometimes you have to go on ahead and bring the family later
sometimes you have to sacrifice, make compromises, or choices you’d rather not
sometimes you dont

and while doing nothing and waiting is a choice, it tends to not be a particularly well thought out one

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:12:06am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:17:43am

CSX railway showing a little solidarity:

Miners agree to let train pass without coal

harlanenterprise.net

When we started a 101 day strike against Louisville GE, an L&N locomotive and cars started through the Rail Gate. The crew got out and walked away, leaving the fence open and the rails and highway blocked. Felt good.

Still looking for a trustworthy way to GFM these guys.

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William Lewis  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:18:07am

re: #328 steve_davis

he’ll be exhibited in a hanging cage and eaten by the fucking birds.

In the Vorkosigan series by Lois McMaster Bujold, treason is punished by being put in a cage in the capitol square with water but no food. The condemned dies of starvation. A delightfully barbaric solution to the problem…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:19:45am

re: #318 lawhawk

“but her failure to visit the 3 states(WI, MI, PA)”

*bulkshit*

Campaign by the numbers:
States Hillary visited the most: PA, FL, and OH.

There really is a lot of revisionism on her campaign stops and what she did and did not do.

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:24:36am

dailykos.com

The #MoscowMitch label that sprung up this week thanks to the traditional media finally recognizing that Mitch McConnell is standing in the way of protecting our elections from the Russians has enraged the Kentucky senator and majority leader. The guy who normally relishes a political fight and turns criticisms into a big joke can’t do that this time. That could be because the moniker is hitting him at home.

Kentucky political reporter Philip Bailey, who writes for the Louisville Courier Journal reports that as of Thursday night, the Kentucky Democrats have raised more than $120,00 off of #MoscowMitch T-shirts and other merchandise—in just one day. It’s not national sales driving that either; people from more than 64 Kentucky counties bought the shirts. In contrast, McConnell made about $70,000 off of his joke #CocaineMitch shirts in a two-week period. On MSNBC’s The 11th Hour, Bailey told Brian Williams that he’s talked to McConnell aides and confidants and they “all say this has gotten to him” and that the “issue and the tag line of Moscow Mitch has gotten to Sen. McConnell in a way that previous criticisms have not.”

Earlier on Thursday, Bailey also talked to Chuck Todd on MSNBC’s MTP Daily, and told him that the the issue is “more than anything, getting people plugged into the race pretty early,” undercutting McConnell’s strategy “to establish the narrative very quickly against his opponents […] and now the fear is the narrative is being established about him, that he is this underling of Vladimir Putin and/or Trump.” Also, it’s working for Democrats. Bailey said from his discussions with McConnell’s staff he’s now “at least open to the idea of a bipartisan election security measure. […] They seem to be searching for an exit ramp in this situation.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:25:46am

re: #340 Belafon

dailykos.com

Good. It’s putting him on defense for once.

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:28:52am

re: #340 Belafon

dailykos.com

Earlier on Thursday, Bailey also talked to Chuck Todd on MSNBC’s MTP Daily, and told him that the the issue is “more than anything, getting people plugged into the race pretty early,” undercutting McConnell’s strategy “to establish the narrative very quickly against his opponents […] and now the fear is the narrative is being established about him, that he is this underling of Vladimir Putin and/or Trump.” Also, it’s working for Democrats. Bailey said from his discussions with McConnell’s staff he’s now “at least open to the idea of a bipartisan election security measure. […] They seem to be searching for an exit ramp in this situation.”

see Petard, Hoisted with his own

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mmmirele  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:30:15am

I know it’s easy to bash the mainstream media, but Anderson Cooper did a great job yesterday just dragging Marianne Williamson over her general idiocy. He let the Noo Wage guru have it, and he went deep:

Moments later, Cooper confronted her on her past suggestion that antidepressants were the cause of Robin Williams’ death by suicide, pointing out that the article she cited at the time was written by an organization funded by the Church of Scientology, which doesn’t believe in psychiatry.

At one point, after Williamson said she believed a “spiritual person” is just as qualified to talk about issues of depression as a medical expert, Cooper straight-up asked her: “The Church of Scientology—would you want them to be head of CDC if you were president?”

Also, as a mental health consumer, I loved this:

“Not all drugs numb you or mask you, and telling a seriously depressed person that taking an antidepressant they’re going to be numbed—is that not a good message?” Cooper wondered aloud.

thedailybeast.com

I am living proof that evil psych drugz do not numb you. Not only do I hold down a demanding job cat herding technical staff on production issues, but I go out every weekend and picket a local cult. I’m the furthest from numb, thanks to a psych drug cocktail.

I hate Marianne Williamson with the heat of a billion suns, which, for those of you keeping score, is far worse than my mere dislike of Bernie Sanders. I want her to GO AWAY.

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:32:19am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:33:30am

re: #343 mmmirele

I know it’s easy to bash the mainstream media, but Anderson Cooper did a great job yesterday just dragging Marianne Williamson over her general idiocy. He let the Noo Wage guru have it, and he went deep:

Also, as a mental health consumer, I loved this:

thedailybeast.com

I am living proof that evil psych drugz do not numb you. Not only do I hold down a demanding job cat herding technical staff on production issues, but I go out every weekend and picket a local cult. I’m the furthest from numb, thanks to a psych drug cocktail.

I hate Marianne Williamson with the heat of a billion suns, which, for those of you keeping score, is far worse than my mere dislike of Bernie Sanders. I want her to GO AWAY.

I’ve suffered from anxiety most of my life. MW’s bullshit combined with Trumps anti vaccine (I’m ASD) really ticks me off

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:34:42am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:35:57am

re: #344 DangerMan

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Because you didn’t want to. The evidence or more accurately actions were already there. He could have opened his campaign anywhere talking about any subject. Philadelphia, Mississippi was a huge hint to African Americans as was his rhetoric but white peoples just saw a kind Grandpa. PoC saw Grandpa George Wallace.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:36:18am

re: #346 lawhawk

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God I hate Ivanka.

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mmmirele  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:37:15am

re: #183 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Transferred from last string

Not too hard to guess what rang Kelsey’s alarm bell when thalidomide came along. Early in her career, in 1938, she was part of the team that investigated the mass poisonings that resulted from the introduction of Elixir sulfanilamide. The manufacturer, SE Massengill, had used ethylene glycol as a solvent in the product. Their chief chemist, Harold Watkins, did not know that ethylene glycol is poisonous, even though it had been on the market for several years and there was already a fair amount of medical literature on the risks. 107 people died, 108 if you count Watkins, who committed suicide. This case led directly to the 1938 Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act that Kelsey was enforcing when she barred thalidomide.

I went to high school and was a friend with one of the few American children to be affected by thalidomide. So I knew from my teen years that medication can be wondrous but it could also be teratogenic.

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:45:02am
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Danack  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:45:39am

re: #342 DangerMan

Also, it’s working for Democrats. Bailey said from his discussions with McConnell’s staff he’s now “at least open to the idea of a bipartisan election security measure. […] They seem to be searching for an exit ramp in this situation.”

It sounds thought that instead of just doing the right thing, he’s still trying to wheedle concessions from the Democrats for doing what is the right thing for America.

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steve_davis  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:47:01am

re: #164 gocart mozart

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LOL at the guy who occasionally needed blood refreshed in Sweden looking into the camera and talking about Chuck Berry having “idiosyncracies.”

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:48:28am

re: #347 HappyWarrior

Because you didn’t want to. The evidence or more accurately actions were already there. He could have opened his campaign anywhere talking about any subject. Philadelphia, Mississippi was a huge hint to African Americans as was his rhetoric but white peoples just saw a kind Grandpa. PoC saw Grandpa George Wallace.

three comments from the politicalwire.com thread (not the twitter thread):

…on the one hand it’s shocking, and on the other the fact that we’re even talking about it this way is an encapsulation of everything that’s wrong with the way we discuss race in our society.

Harry Truman and LBJ were both racist in private, but as presidents they did more for black people than any other president since Lincoln. People are complicated.

We all knew Reagan was one of the first Republicans of the modern age to adopt dog-whistle politics. He opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. He talked about “law and order,” which has always been racial code. He launched his 1980 campaign at the town of the infamous Klan lynching of the three civil rights activists, and there he talked about “states’ rights.” He denounced welfare queens and “strapping young bucks.” As president he escalated the War on Drugs (though admittedly both parties bear some blame for that), and he vetoed sanctions against apartheid South Africa.

The conventional wisdom up to now has been that he was not personally a racist but merely playing politics. I don’t know if that’s worse or better. The fact is that the media always gets caught up on these gotcha-moments where someone gets caught making outright slurs, while mostly dismissing any discussion of a person’s actual record on race. There’s an element of I-told-you-so here, but at the end of the day I consider it more significant what Reagan did as a politician, not what he said in private.

then two replies:

But that comment totally informs what we saw him do as a matter of policy. It gives it (disgusting) context.

and

Agreed. Truman and Johnson to their credit seemed to recognize that what they had been brought up with was wrong and tried to do something about it, even if they sometimes said things and laughed at jokes that they shouldn’t have. Reagan didn’t seem to have that internal conflict.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:48:49am

May 18; may have been posted here before but it bears repeating.

The Belief That Trump Is a Messiah Is Rampant and Dangerous

Psychologists have explained quite a lot about Donald Trump’s political invincibility and the unconditional allegiance of his followers. One well-supported explanation is that the president keeps his base loyal by keeping them fearful. Through persistent fear-mongering, with messages like, “Illegal immigrants are murderers and rapists,” and “Islam hates us,” Trump gets to play the role of the great protector.

But there is another important reason why Trump loyalists do not waver no matter how he behaves or what scandals come to light. For most evangelicals, it is not only fear that keeps them in line, but it is also faith. As a cognitive psychology researcher who has been writing about the science underlying Trump’s support since he began his presidential campaign, I have learned—through comments, emails, and discussion forums—that a significant portion of his supporters literally believe the president was an answer to their prayers. He is regarded as something of a messiah, sent by God to protect a Christian nation.

Crazy as it seems to rational people, Trump as literal, supernaturally-ordained messiah is a common theme among radical pulpit pimps. Right-Wing Watch does a good job keeping up with this aspect of the political picture.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:49:09am
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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:52:01am

re: #351 Danack

It sounds thought that instead of just doing the right thing, he’s still trying to wheedle concessions from the Democrats for doing what is the right thing for America.

yes
and i think a really cool thing is there’s no washing this off
even if he brings up election security now, that name’s gonna stick no matter what.

maybe mitch oughta ask hillary or joe, or the squad or….. how to manage it

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steve_davis  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:54:45am

re: #165 VegasGolfer

Ok i see, cant have a first timer be president, even though thats the precedent now.
To beak it down to just giving everyone 12 grand a year is a simplistic reason to dismiss him, when he has an excellent reason why everyone should get it, and is one tiny part of his platform.
yang2020.com

This isn’t fun and games. The country isn’t electing somebody who wants to give everybody in the country 12 thousand dollars a year. It’s a moronic economic idea. Democrats tend to forget that the moderate candidate last year beat the brakes off her primary challenger last year and won the popular vote by 3 million votes. Our problem is not that we aren’t running loopy enough candidates to compete with mainstream Republicans.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:55:46am

re: #353 DangerMan

three comments from the politicalwire.com thread (not the twitter thread):

then two replies:

and

That’s a great point contrasting LBJ/Truman with Nixon/Reagan.

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sagehen  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:59:00am

re: #329 DangerMan

down deep, i want to be with the the smartest, most experienced workers
idgaf what color they are or what language they speak

embarrassing confession:

I want to be with workers who are almost as smart as me, and slightly less experienced. I want them to need me to explain shit and train them, but be smart enough that I only have to explain it once and they pick it up quick.

People who are smarter than me, or more talented than me, make me crazy jealous.

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Kilroy was here  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:59:13am

Can you image if Obama did this? (Not that he ever would)

Trump defends Kim Jong Un as ‘friend’ after short-range missile launch
thehill.com

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:00:45am

this from washpo i think misses the point (somewhat)

Why go to the trouble of running for president to promote ideas that can’t work?

“Ambition is essential, in other words, but not sufficient. The country faces big challenges, such as economic inequality and climate change, that call for creative solutions. They also call for wisdom, honesty and even a bit of modesty about government’s limitations. Having embraced President Barack Obama’s “no drama” approach to governing, often defined by the philosophy “don’t do stupid s—-,” it would be odd if Democrats suddenly embraced ideological grandiosity as a prerequisite for service in the Oval Office.

That means, first, that proposals should meet a baseline degree of factual plausibility — a bar that, for example, the Medicare-for-all plan that Mr. Sanders and Ms. Warren favor does not clear. Ms. Warren’s Tuesday night zinger was aimed at former congressman John Delaney (Md.), who had pointed out correctly that the numbers behind the proposal simply do not compute: The senators cannot deliver a system that provides far more benefits than other single-payer systems they claim as their model while preserving the level of care and access that insured Americans currently enjoy. They should make the case for a government monopoly on health care if they want, but they should be honest about the trade-offs.”

- ambition is essential
- and ‘cant work’ may or may not be true and some of these ideas certainly need more thinking through

context is everything and where are we right now and where are we likely to be when the Dem wins in 2020? large majorities, both houses? unified caucuses who agree on every detail of everything?

i think no. not in any position to do any of this grandiose stuff unless a massive wave hits because so many people do in fact want all this stuff to happen now

not that i dont want to
not that having a vision isnt a wonderful thing

the question is whether focusing on these things is in fact the best way to win
will dreaming or a sort of pragmatic realism get us more votes?

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:00:53am

re: #360 Kilroy was here

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steve_davis  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:02:03am

re: #182 Belafon

Do you really want people to earn money based on the number of children they collect?

they were doing this in my grandparents’ neighborhood in Pennsylvania, back before welfare reform. People were living in their shitty trailers out in the boonies, pumping out kids because they got money for it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:03:12am

re: #360 Kilroy was here

Can you image if Obama did this? (Not that he ever would)

Trump defends Kim Jong Un as ‘friend’ after short-range missile launch
thehill.com

Remember when Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio acted like establishment of relations with Cuba was the worst thing ever but silence on Trump talking about Kim Jong Un like an old friend.

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steve_davis  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:03:23am

re: #184 MsJ

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jesus, that looks like the daily living room community at a meth lab trailer.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:05:37am

re: #362 lawhawk

You’re describing a totalitarian state with a dictator whose regime has routinely put dissidents in a gulag and forced work prisons. They have nukes and have shown intent to use nuclear blackmail.

Not to mention that manufacturing nukes for rogue states or non-state actors could well prove to be quite a lucrative sideline.

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:07:34am

re: #357 steve_davis

This isn’t fun and games. The country isn’t electing somebody who wants to give everybody in the country 12 thousand dollars a year. It’s a moronic economic idea. Democrats tend to forget that the moderate candidate last year beat the brakes off her primary challenger last year and won the popular vote by 3 million votes. Our problem is not that we aren’t running loopy enough candidates to compete with mainstream Republicans.

approximately:
327million people in the US less about 77m under 18 leaves around 250 million adults
250m * 12k per year is 3 trillion dollars

The government estimates it will receive $3.6 trillion in revenue for the fiscal year ending 9/20

unless im missing something

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:12:13am

re: #359 sagehen

embarrassing confession:

I want to be with workers who are almost as smart as me, and slightly less experienced. I want them to need me to explain shit and train them, but be smart enough that I only have to explain it once and they pick it up quick.

People who are smarter than me, or more talented than me, make me crazy jealous.

admittedly i dont know nothing about mining so i have no experience to share
if i was down there, in that situation i’d want to be with the best people

you? ;-)

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:14:35am

re: #362 lawhawk

You’re describing a totalitarian state with a dictator whose regime has routinely put dissidents in a gulag and forced work prisons. They have nukes and have shown intent to use nuclear blackmail.

That’s not a beautiful vision. That’s you sucking up to another tinpot dictator.

that’s you:
- not having a clue what your job is
- not having a clue what foreign policy is or how it works
- clueless

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:15:43am

re: #369 DangerMan

that’s you:
- not having a clue what your job is
- not having a clue what foreign policy is or how it works
- clueless

As sung by R.E.M.? (Losing my Religion).

/gaahhh… and I am so not a REM fan, I can’t believe I actually made that connection.

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Ming5000  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:16:40am

re: #8 Decatur Deb

Caught a fairly new movie about the Polish RAF Squadron 303. (Some cliches, but very good over all.) The young pilot at the center of the action was very good, so much that I went looking for the newcomer Polish actor they used.

It was Ramsay Bolton.

imdb.com

That is a surprise. I look forward to watching.
He is so good.

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William Lewis  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:18:22am

OT: my budget for the next 2 weeks is nonexistent, but I no longer have anything in hock at the local pawnshop.

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:19:39am

re: #344 DangerMan

Spitz was exactly the type of person Reagan was targeting.

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:22:19am

re: #354 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

He is regarded as something of a messiah, sent by God to protect a Christian nation white people.

Exactly the same thing in their minds. His racism and sexism are exactly what they think they need to keep rich white people in power.

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sagehen  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:23:31am

re: #368 DangerMan

admittedly i dont know nothing about mining so i have no experience to share
if i was down there, in that situation i’d want to be with the best people

you? ;-)

In mining, physical strength, flexibility, endurance and resilience are the measure of “the best people”. Average intelligence is sufficient.

My physical strength, flexibility, endurance and resilience are well below average, and have no bearing on my self-esteem. I don’t mind at all how many people outrank me on those measures.

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plansbandc  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:23:43am

re: #334 jeffreyw

Here’s New Mexico’s version. Basically a burrito stacked on a massive pile of fries with green and red chile. Yes, it’s delicious. It’s comes in full, half, and quarter. Quarter is too much food for the average person.

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William Lewis  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:24:19am

re: #357 steve_davis

Easy to afford it and M4A. Just return to Tax year 1959 rates and cut defence by a minimum of 40% (which would still leave us spending too much and more than anyone else.) But if we stop wasting those Trillions of dollars, Keynesian reality tells us how much the economy will grow.

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plansbandc  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:26:27am

re: #348 HappyWarrior

Me too. She’s worse than her dad.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:28:54am

re: #376 plansbandc

Here’s New Mexico’s version. Basically a burrito stacked on a massive pile of fries with green and red chile. Yes, it’s delicious. It’s comes in full, half, and quarter. Quarter is too much food for the average person.

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New Mexico wins

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Teukka  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:29:53am

Stockholm Pride is in full swing, and they are making Gonhorrea a poster name


The 70’s bad boy has made an unfortunate comeback.
- Region Stockholm
A summer pest that is directly harmful to its audience.
- STD clinic, Södersjukhuset
Trust us, this really isn’t a hit.
- RSFL*
*: Local LGBTQ+ activist organization.
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sagehen  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:31:12am

re: #377 William Lewis

Easy to afford it and M4A. Just return to Tax year 1959 rates and cut defence by a minimum of 40% (which would still leave us spending too much and more than anyone else.) But if we stop wasting those Trillions of dollars, Keynesian reality tells us how much the economy will grow.

also… UBI would mean no need for food stamps, section 8 housing, or minimum wage. So it would actually cost less than it looks like.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:31:21am

re: #378 plansbandc

Me too. She’s worse than her dad.

My opinion too. She’s the wolf in sheep’s clothing.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:31:33am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:35:17am

re: #362 lawhawk

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“Chariman”

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Dave In Austin  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:35:47am
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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:38:35am

re: #381 sagehen

also… UBI would mean no need for food stamps, section 8 housing, or minimum wage. So it would actually cost less than it looks like.

And, with things like the internet and Amazon, we don’t all need to live right on top of each other.

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plansbandc  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:41:26am

re: #385 Dave In Austin

I love her so much.

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VegasGolfer  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:41:31am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:49:26am

re: #385 Dave In Austin

That’s damn near as good as Ollie William’s “BlaccuWeather” on Family Guy.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:56:29am

re: #354 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

May 18; may have been posted here before but it bears repeating.

The Belief That Trump Is a Messiah Is Rampant and Dangerous

Crazy as it seems to rational people, Trump as literal, supernaturally-ordained messiah is a common theme among radical pulpit pimps. Right-Wing Watch does a good job keeping up with this aspect of the political picture.

I can vouch for that because my insane family is convinced that Trump was anointed by The Big G to be our king.

And they mean that literally.

They want Trump to declare martial law and impose Gawd’s Law on America.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:59:59am

re: #357 steve_davis

This isn’t fun and games. The country isn’t electing somebody who wants to give everybody in the country 12 thousand dollars a year. It’s a moronic economic idea. Democrats tend to forget that the moderate candidate last year beat the brakes off her primary challenger last year and won the popular vote by 3 million votes. Our problem is not that we aren’t running loopy enough candidates to compete with mainstream Republicans.

I remember how Republicans tore McGovern to pieces because he supported Conservative Milton Friedman’s Negative Income Tax which would have instituted a minimum income for everyone. Every Republican running in the 1972 General Election continually blasted “McGovern’s $1,000 a year for everyone” plan.

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:00:30am

re: #385 Dave In Austin

Ok. I kinda love her. Tornader or not.

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:05:38am

Departmental judge rules that cop who put Eric Garner in chokehold that ultimately led to Garner’s death should be fired.

The ultimate decision goes to NYPD Chief O’Neill.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:05:44am

re: #391 Joe Bacon 🌹

I remember how Republicans tore McGovern to pieces because he supported Conservative Milton Friedman’s Negative Income Tax which would have instituted a minimum income for everyone. Every Republican running in the 1972 General Election continually blasted “McGovern’s $1,000 a year for everyone” plan.

I had the 45

Delegates - Convention ‘72 - Mainstream MRL 5525

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:05:59am

re: #376 plansbandc

And here’s what Pittsburghers love—Steak Salad with fries.

Of course the Italian dressing has to be on the side!
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Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:07:46am

re: #371 Ming5000

That is a surprise. I look forward to watching.
He is so good.

It is called “Hurricane” with alt title “Mission of Honor”. The backstory overcomes the low-budget production.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:08:01am

re: #395 Joe Bacon 🌹

And here’s what Pittsburghers love—Steak Salad with fries.

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I had something like that in Johnstown at a little place near my Grandpa’s childhood home. That looks like Western Pennsylvania meets Lomo Saltado- my favorite Peruvian dish.

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Kilroy was here  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:10:30am

Just need to add Kremlin Kevin and we have a set.

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:11:05am

re: #391 Joe Bacon 🌹

I remember how Republicans tore McGovern to pieces because he supported Conservative Milton Friedman’s Negative Income Tax which would have instituted a minimum income for everyone. Every Republican running in the 1972 General Election continually blasted “McGovern’s $1,000 a year for everyone” plan.

Imagine all of those blacks getting $1000/yr. We can’t have that.

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:12:48am

re: #395 Joe Bacon 🌹

This is what San Diego likes…Asada Fries. Mmmmmmm!!

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:13:34am

re: #398 Kilroy was here

I like #DachauDevin myself.

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:14:05am

re: #394 Eventual Carrion

I had the 45

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Video

Ditto!

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:14:34am

re: #401 MsJ

I like #DachauDevin myself.

Or, alternately…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:16:00am

re: #401 MsJ

I like #DachauDevin myself.

Not Russian. :)

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:16:41am

re: #404 HappyWarrior

Not Russian. :)

Nazi. Better or worse than Russian?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:16:52am

Petrograd Pompeo
Rostov Radcliffe

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:17:06am

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:17:35am

re: #405 MsJ

Nazi. Better or worse than Russian?

True. But the joke is these guys are sell outs to the Kremlin I thought. Carry on.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:19:33am

re: #399 Belafon

Imagine all of those blacks getting $1000/yr. We can’t have that.

I remember lots of “Democrats For Nixon” saying that in 1972!

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:30:49am

The Covington kid whose WaPo suit got dismissed with prejudice is back at it, suing individuals instead. Among those they’ve targeted with defamation per se claims: Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Rep. Deb Haaland (D-New Mexico), CNN’s Ana Navarro, Maggie Haberman of the New York Times, comedian Kathy Griffin, ABC News political analyst Matthew Dowd, Reza Aslan (formerly of CNN), Kentucky entrepreneur Adam Edelen, Princeton University History Professor Kevin M. Kruse, activist and journalist Shaun King, Mother Jones editor-in-chief Clara Jeffery and Rewire.News editor-in-chief Jodi Jacobson.

His lawyer thinks that defamation claim against individuals will have better chance than against the deep pockets WaPo. The facts make for a far different outcome.

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:31:41am

re: #408 HappyWarrior

True. But the joke is these guys are sell outs to the Kremlin I thought. Carry on.

Why not both? :-D

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Teukka  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:31:50am

BREAKING: A$AP Rocky released from detention by decision of Stockholm District Court.

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:32:17am

re: #410 lawhawk

The Covington kid whose WaPo suit got dismissed with prejudice is back at it, suing individuals instead. Among those they’ve targeted with defamation per se claims: Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Rep. Deb Haaland (D-New Mexico), CNN’s Ana Navarro, Maggie Haberman of the New York Times, comedian Kathy Griffin, ABC News political analyst Matthew Dowd, Reza Aslan (formerly of CNN), Kentucky entrepreneur Adam Edelen, Princeton University History Professor Kevin M. Kruse, activist and journalist Shaun King, Mother Jones editor-in-chief Clara Jeffery and Rewire.News editor-in-chief Jodi Jacobson.

His lawyer thinks that defamation claim against individuals will have better chance than against the deep pockets WaPo. The facts make for a far different outcome.

Does SLAPP come into play?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:33:14am

re: #410 lawhawk

The Covington kid whose WaPo suit got dismissed with prejudice is back at it, suing individuals instead. Among those they’ve targeted with defamation per se claims: Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Rep. Deb Haaland (D-New Mexico), CNN’s Ana Navarro, Maggie Haberman of the New York Times, comedian Kathy Griffin, ABC News political analyst Matthew Dowd, Reza Aslan (formerly of CNN), Kentucky entrepreneur Adam Edelen, Princeton University History Professor Kevin M. Kruse, activist and journalist Shaun King, Mother Jones editor-in-chief Clara Jeffery and Rewire.News editor-in-chief Jodi Jacobson.

His lawyer thinks that defamation claim against individuals will have better chance than against the deep pockets WaPo. The facts make for a far different outcome.

Grift, grift, grift, all I’ve got to do is grift, grift, grift.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:33:49am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:33:54am

re: #411 MsJ

Why not both? :-D

As I said carry on lol, I can’t think of Russian cities with D or N.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:34:46am

re: #415 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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He looks like he’s high or drunk af.

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:36:17am

re: #413 MsJ

State specific - the claims are filed in Kentucky’s Kenton County Circuit Court. They’re hoping they have better chance in the state court. Too bad, I think those defendants could move for the case to be heard in federal court due on diversity grounds.

Kentucky doesn’t have an anti-SLAPP suit and I’m not sure how that would have helped in this case.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:36:55am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:41:25am

re: #419 Charles Johnson

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Stacking the court by holding up judicial appointments. That’s Mitch’s legacy.

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Teukka  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:43:00am

re: #412 Teukka

BREAKING: A$AP Rocky released from detention by decision of Stockholm District Court.

A$AP Rocky Freed Until Verdict - LIVE BREAKING NEWS COVERAGE

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:43:04am

re: #419 Charles Johnson

Alternatively, expand the bench considerably, and eliminate lifetime appointments for all levels of the court to prevent one party from packing the courts with lifetime appointments.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:43:15am

re: #419 Charles Johnson

Appointed and Anointed don’t cha know…….. Christian dollars at work.

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:43:34am
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nowherenorth2  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:45:08am

So the former ICE administrator is coming to northern ny to attend a conservative fundraiser and talk about immigrants and border issues. We are by Canada, with the akwasasne mohawk reservation owning part of the border and having sovereignty over it. This could be interesting.
On top of that the North country public radio, or ncpr, has an article up about my representive Elise Stefanik (r-doesnt care) and her basically standing up for trump and how she defended the conspiracy theory about the investigation into trump/Russia.

My county and the area I live in is a copy of the deep South.

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:46:35am

Like a good teacher.

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sagehen  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:47:12am

re: #416 HappyWarrior

As I said carry on lol, I can’t think of Russian cities with D or N.

Novosibirsk or Nizhny Novgorod.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:47:20am

re: #414 HappyWarrior

Grift, grift, grift, all I’ve got to do is grift, grift, grift.

Doesn’t this sort of turn into his grift dollars paying the lawyers of the people he keeps trying to sue?

Beyond the hassle of dealing with it this sounds like a good way for the conservative nut money sources to through away dollars for little to no gain.

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austin_blue  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:53:45am

re: #426 Belafon

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Like a good teacher.

You cannot be an effective law professor if you cannot explain without condescension.

I like her quite a bit as a candidate for either P or VP. I also really Kamala.

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:56:53am

just posted a quick page on the UBI / Freedom dividend.

anyone care to explain it to me?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:59:26am
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Charles Johnson  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:59:34am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:01:09am

re: #428 Feline Fearless Leader

Doesn’t this sort of turn into his grift dollars paying the lawyers of the people he keeps trying to sue?

Beyond the hassle of dealing with it this sounds like a good way for the conservative nut money sources to through away dollars for little to no gain.

No idea but I was actually referencing the Everlys lol.

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:03:32am

re: #426 Belafon

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Like a good teacher.

..the ability to explain the same thing three different ways depending on the makeup of the audience/students

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:04:05am

re: #416 HappyWarrior

As I said carry on lol, I can’t think of Russian cities with D or N.

Dnipropetrovsk
Novorossiysk

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:05:54am

re: #432 Charles Johnson

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you wear a hat like that indoors, for the cameras, knowing full well…
then you are a p.o.s.e.u.r.

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b.d.  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:07:10am

re: #432 Charles Johnson

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Who are the disrespectful hayseeds who haven’t taken their hats off in the White House?

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:12:08am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:15:10am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:16:08am

re: #439 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Next up: Devin Nunes!

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jimmyvluv4u  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:16:14am

re: #439 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I saw a very reasonable-sounding conspiracy theory that they were floating Ratcliffe as an obviously unsuitable candidate so they could follow him up with Devin Nunes.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:16:34am

In the ongoing problem of police shooting pets with questionable or no reason, this was eventually bound to happen.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:17:50am

re: #305 jaunte

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Temper?

Pro-life, my behind.

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:18:33am

re: #439 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

NEWS: Trump reverses course, says he no longer plans to nominate John Ratcliffe for DNI.

“i couldnt get him through with no one looking so i dumped him”

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:20:25am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:21:17am

Called it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:22:30am

re: #445 lawhawk

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He’s so pathetic. No one is attacking Radcliffe’s family. People are rightfully saying DNI shouldn’t be a partisan.

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Jay C  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:22:44am

re: #444 DangerMan

“i couldnt get him through with no one looking so i dumped him”

This.

And really? The POTUS using asinine phrasing like “LameStream Media” in a public statement?

Though who knows what sort of hack/toady/looney-tunes he will put forward now? Or will DNI just be another position headed by “Acting”…?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:22:52am

re: #359 sagehen

embarrassing confession:

I want to be with workers who are almost as smart as me, and slightly less experienced. I want them to need me to explain shit and train them, but be smart enough that I only have to explain it once and they pick it up quick.

People who are smarter than me, or more talented than me, make me crazy jealous.

My wife says the reverse about husbands. /no snark

I’ve asked her why she picked me then, since she dropped out of high school at sixteen to go to college and has three degrees.

She just says (paraphrasing) her first two husbands were douchecanoes to her and I’m not (and I always praise her cooking).

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b.d.  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:24:27am

re: #439 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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NEWS: Trump reverses course, says he no longer plans to nominate John Ratcliffe for DNI.

Whomp..Whomp

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:26:51am

re: #367 DangerMan

approximately:
327million people in the US less about 77m under 18 leaves around 250 million adults
250m * 12k per year is 3 trillion dollars

The government estimates it will receive $3.6 trillion in revenue for the fiscal year ending 9/20

unless im missing something

The part where we repeal the Republican Tax Scam, the Bush Tax Cuts, and put the capital gains tax back where it should be.

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:28:17am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:28:36am

re: #363 steve_davis

they were doing this in my grandparents’ neighborhood in Pennsylvania, back before welfare reform. People were living in their shitty trailers out in the boonies, pumping out kids because they got money for it.

Assuming this anecdote is true, the fact that a few people might abuse any system is no reason to deny it to the overwhelming majority who do not.

“Welfare reform” is Republispeak for “screw the poor, I got mine.”

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:30:33am

re: #448 Jay C

This.

And really? The POTUS using asinine phrasing like “LameStream Media” in a public statement?

Though who knows what sort of hack/toady/looney-tunes he will put forward now? Or will DNI just be another position headed by “Acting”…?

i just read he’s trying to block the current #2 from moving up
and apparently that’s what’s supposed to happen - #2 moves up to #1
but the page i was reading just went away

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:31:48am

re: #451 Anymouse 🌹🎃

The part where we repeal the Republican Tax Scam, the Bush Tax Cuts, and put the capital gains tax back where it should be.

would reduce the deficit for sure
wouldnt be nearly enough to fund this entire new budget line

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VegasGolfer  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:32:47am

washingtonpost.com

Rattcliffe out. Up next Devin Nunes

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:36:07am

re: #456 VegasGolfer

washingtonpost.com

Rattcliffe out. Up next Devin Nunes

Yeah I’m certain of that. Nunes time as House Intel chair will be spun as him being qualified.

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:38:29am

And like that, Radcliffe is out.

Who’s betting on Nunes?

Anyone? Anyone?

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:38:55am

re: #415 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:39:12am

re: #458 MsJ

And like that, Radcliffe is out.

Who’s betting on Nunes?

Anyone? Anyone?

Maybe Tom Cotton?

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ericblair  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:43:06am

re: #422 lawhawk

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Alternatively, expand the bench considerably, and eliminate lifetime appointments for all levels of the court to prevent one party from packing the courts with lifetime appointments.

The only thing I can think of for the shorter term is a targeted Congressional pressure campaign against them. Harass them as much as legally possible and start review hearings about possible perjury in their confirmation hearings. Most of them are not exactly political street fighters, and look like they can dish it out a lot easier than they can take it. Get them to keep their heads down, and maybe make a few quit.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:43:28am

re: #460 Dr Lizardo

Maybe Tom Cotton?

That’s a good bet too Doc.

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b.d.  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:44:47am

re: #460 Dr Lizardo

Maybe Tom Cotton?

It would be great to get him out of the Senate and out of politics altogether in a year and a half.

I’d vote to confirm.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:45:27am

re: #194 sagehen

Do you have no faith in the donation process?

Most of the people here, and a significant number of Kossacks, would send money to your campaign.

If you serve only one term, the pay is enough for you to put aside some savings; if you serve 3 terms, you qualify for a significant pension.

That’s very kind, but the filing fee itself in Nebraska is 1% of the annual salary of any political position sought. At $174,000 a year, that means just the filing fee for me would be $1,740. That cannot be financed by donations in this state; you must show it is your money (check, personal credit card, pay in cash and get a receipt).

Unseating Adrian Smith is going to take a better politician (and a far richer one) than me. The Democrat who ran against him last time (Paul Theobald) is a multi-millionaire rancher. He sunk metric fuquetonnes of his own money into his campaign, and donations simply did not come in. The national folks at the DCCC did not offer support (citing the reason usually given around LGF for campaigns, that they have to focus money on campaigns they think they can win).

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:46:49am

re: #463 b.d.

It would be great to get him out of the Senate and out of politics altogether in a year and a half.

I’d vote to confirm.

Heh.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:47:05am

re: #463 b.d.

It would be great to get him out of the Senate and out of politics altogether in a year and a half.

I’d vote to confirm.

No.

He’s Bolton on steroids!

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Kilroy was here  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:49:57am

re: #401 MsJ

I like #DachauDevin myself.

#NorilskNunes
Norilsk is one of the most polluted spots on earth..

Heavy metal pollution near Norilsk is so severe that it has now become economically feasible to mine surface soil, as the soil has acquired such high concentrations of platinum and palladium.

I think that fits.

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cat-tikvah  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:50:35am

re: #467 Kilroy was here

stealing this

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:52:38am

re: #453 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Assuming this anecdote is true, the fact that a few people might abuse any system is no reason to deny it to the overwhelming majority who do not.

“Welfare reform” is Republispeak for “screw the poor, I got mine.”

It’s not about the anecdote as much as I really don’t want to encourage people to have a whole lot of kids.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:56:07am

re: #362 lawhawk

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Seems like Chairman Kim got himself a copy of the pee tape.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 12:00:10pm

re: #390 Joe Bacon 🌹

I can vouch for that because my insane family is convinced that Trump was anointed by The Big G to be our king.

And they mean that literally.

They want Trump to declare martial law and impose Gawd’s Law on America.

You can drive people to great evil when their rationale for things is “faith.”


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