Far Right Stuntwoman Laura Loomer Announces Run for Congress

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Laura Loomer in her blonde phase, clowning around with Holocaust denier Chuck C. Johnson

I really don’t think it’s going too far out on a limb to speculate that this is just one more grift in a long series of grifts. Loomer has been banned from basically all social media sites for her ugly, hateful rhetoric, but for some reason (its name is Trump) she believes there’s a place for that sort of thing in Washington DC: Anti-Muslim Activist Laura Loomer to Run for Congress.

Anti-Muslim activist Laura Loomer launched a congressional bid on Friday, setting herself up for almost certain defeat in a heavily Democratic House district.

Loomer registered to run as a Republican against Rep. Lois Frankel (D) in Florida’s 21st Congressional District, according to a filing with the Federal Election Commission.

Loomer, a pro-Trump internet personality, has become notorious both for her attention-seeking stunts and vicious rhetoric against Muslim-Americans. After being banned from Twitter last year, Loomer made headlines by donning a yellow Star of David and handcuffing herself to a door at one of the social media giant’s New York headquarters—but only to one part of the entryway, meaning she had failed to actually block the door.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:07:09pm

C’mon DCCC!

Link Loony Laura to every Republican running for office!

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b.d.  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:08:29pm

re: #1 Joe Bacon 🌹

C’mon DCCC!

LinkHandcuff Loony Laura to every Republican running for office!

FIFY

I can’t wait for her campaign store to open, I need some White Elephant gifts.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:08:49pm

Is there any serious GOP effort in that district, or have they written it off?

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Targetpractice  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:09:27pm
By the way, that “protest” at Twitter? It ended because Loomer’s bladder was full.

And with the cops cutting her out of the cuffs after she realized she’d lost the key.

And after Twitter’s employees had basically welcomed her to remain chained to one half of their office’s double doors for as long as she liked.

In the dead of winter.

But this is a state that voted a war criminal to Congress, so I guess that means she has a chance.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:09:33pm
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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:10:08pm

The GOP’s last best hope?

The GOP in 2020 are likely to have absolutely no POC in their caucus, and 5% or less women.

The GOP is a white supremacist misogynistic party.

Throw in the odd (and emphasis on odd) wackaloon Islamophobe.

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b.d.  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:10:17pm

I can’t wait for Frankel not debating her, Laura will probably sue her.

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:11:13pm

re: #7 b.d.

She’s debate an empty chair and lose … and then handcuff herself to said chair.

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b.d.  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:16:41pm

The apeman speaketh:

lol, I’ll be surprised alright…..

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:18:00pm

re: #6 lawhawk

The GOP’s last best hope?

The GOP in 2020 are likely to have absolutely no POC in their caucus, and 5% or less women.

The GOP is a white supremacist misogynistic party.

Throw in the odd (and emphasis on odd) wackaloon Islamophobe.

Don’t forget the fake Christians.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:23:40pm
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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:23:59pm

re: #10 MsJ

Don’t forget the fake Christians.

See…

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b.d.  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:24:26pm

lol, i missed where she is suing Facebook for 3 BILLION dollars!

Facebook is being asked to pay billions of dollars by Laura Loomer, a self-described “conservative investigative journalist” who says her life is in danger due to being recently banned from the social network and its sister service, Instagram.

Ms. Loomer filed a defamation lawsuit in Miami federal court Monday seeking more than $3 billion in punitive damages stemming from Facebook’s decision to punt her from its platforms.

Warning, link to Washington Times
washingtontimes.com

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:25:24pm

re: #12 MsJ

I don’t remember Jesus protecting men who used prostitutes.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:28:45pm
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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:28:56pm

re: #12 MsJ

See…

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This really is approaching “God is using Hitler” territory.

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Targetpractice  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:29:45pm

re: #15 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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To sell himself as…what? The “anti-war candidate”? When he’s saber-rattling every day at Iran? Get out of here with that horseshit.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:29:51pm
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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:34:07pm
One need only spend some time listening to Sister Mary Scullion (a liberal/progressive Catholic nun and activist in Philadelphia), Democratic presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg or members of an African Methodist Episcopalian (AME) congregation to realize that not all Christians identify with the brand of far-right Christian fundamentalism that President Donald Trump has been pandering to. And a group of at least 17 church leaders, united under the name Christians Against Christian Nationalism, has issued a dire warning about the dangers of far-right “Christian nationalism.”

In an official statement, the church leaders took issue with the Christian Right’s incessant attacks on other faiths and efforts to bring about a Christian fundamentalist theocracy in the United States.


Christian nationalism,” according to the church leaders, goes hand in hand with white nationalism and “provides cover for white supremacy and racial subjugation.”

The group warned, “Christian nationalism seeks to merge Christian and American identities, distorting both the Christian faith and America’s constitutional democracy. Christian nationalism demands Christianity be privileged by the state and implies that to be a good American, one must be Christian.” And their statement also stressed that “one’s religious affiliation, or lack thereof, should be irrelevant to one’s standing in the civic community.”

rawstory.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:35:02pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:39:43pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:39:55pm

Stuck to the last thread:

There’s your grift. That gets her back on social media.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:40:40pm

re: #3 Decatur Deb

Is there any serious GOP effort in that district, or have they written it off?

There are four other Republicans who have filed for election in that district.

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:45:37pm

Stuntstooge™

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b.d.  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:46:39pm

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹🎃

There are four other Republicans who have filed for election in that district.

lol, I kinda feel sorry for them now.

ok, that’s over with…..

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:47:08pm

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹🎃

“Prove it.”

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b.d.  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:49:28pm

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Stuck to the last thread:

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There’s your grift. That gets her back on social media.

Running for office doesn’t entitle you to a Twitter account. If it does then I’m going to start a company that acts as a clearinghouse for the banned and have them registered to run all over the country. ALEX JONES FOR MAYOR OF BUDA!!

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Decatur Deb  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:54:01pm

re: #25 b.d.

lol, I kinda feel sorry for them now.

ok, that’s over with…..

en.wikipedia.org

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:54:20pm

re: #19 Belafon

rawstory.com

They are an insignificant minority. The overwhelming majority of Churches are right wing indoctrination centers reciting the latest Republican talking points every Sunday.

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Old Liberal  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:55:20pm

re: #14 jaunte

I don’t remember Jesus protecting men who used prostitutes.

Just for the record that story wasn’t even in the original gospels. Added much later. Probably made up. But then so is the rest.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:56:49pm

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Charles Johnson  Aug 2, 2019 • 5:59:48pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:02:24pm

re: #27 b.d.

Running for office doesn’t entitle you to a Twitter account. If it does then I’m going to start a company that acts as a clearinghouse for the banned and have them registered to run all over the country. ALEX JONES FOR MAYOR OF BUDA!!

It doesn’t entitle you to an account, but social media companies have been pretty clear that they will allow politicians. Since Laura Loomer has filed for office, even with not a snowflake’s chance in south Florida of winning, that makes her a politician.

Since Twitter has already said they can’t ban white supremacists because their algorithms can’t tell them from Republican politicians, and because they won’t kick off Donald Trump despite everything from racist rants to threatening nuclear war, Loomer will get back on.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:03:04pm

Loomer and Loonier, door-pisser and floor-shitter. Is romance blooming? A match made in hell.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:05:08pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:05:49pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹🎃

What do you want to bet this is a long game just to get her social media accounts back?

“See? I’m a legitimate politician! You HAVE to let me back on Twitter!

Not sure I understand why being a candidate would force any social media company to do anything.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:10:27pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:11:46pm

re: #36 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Not sure I understand why being a candidate would force any social media company to do anything.

It doesn’t force them per se.

Social media companies have staked out positions saying that politicians are welcome on their platforms ($$$) to get their messages out.

If a social media company allowed candidate X and prohibited candidate Y, then the company could be accused of supporting X or opposing Y.

Y might also make a charge that constitutes a campaign contribution to X.

It is for such reasons that even the looniest candidates are on sites such as Twitter with the dreaded blue checkmark.

If Twitter followed its rules, Trump would have been gone long ago for constant violations of TOS.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:13:04pm

re: #36 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Not sure I understand why being a candidate would force any social media company to do anything.

It’s about money with her, always. Her social media funding sources have been cut off, and all the “alt right” funding sites keep getting shut down. It’s a scam.

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Targetpractice  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:13:52pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

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It’s not really that shocking anymore. While the horrors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki kept the Cold War from ever going hot, the end of the Cold War has left the wingnuts with a serious case of nuclear blue balls.

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:14:10pm

re: #29 Joe Bacon 🌹

They are an insignificant minority. The overwhelming majority of Churches are right wing indoctrination centers reciting the latest Republican talking points every Sunday.

Yep, but even recently I’ve heard remarks about why the liberal churches won’t speak out. Now that they have, let’s not dismiss them.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:14:28pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:15:31pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

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I don’t think anybody should really be surprised when we get to next year and the Dem frontrunner is dubbed a “liar” by the same media that turns itself inside out to avoid calling Trump such.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:19:29pm

re: #40 Targetpractice

It’s not really that shocking anymore. While the horrors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki kept the Cold War from ever going hot, the end of the Cold War has left the wingnuts with a serious case of nuclear blue balls.

“Nuclear Blue Balls,” my new Irish folk/zydeco crossover bar band.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:19:51pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:22:49pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:23:25pm

re: #41 Belafon

Yep, but even recently I’ve heard remarks about why the liberal churches won’t speak out. Now that they have, let’s not dismiss them.

The article refers to members, not organisations.

I am not dismissing the members; I welcome adding their voices to the conversation that this is unacceptable.

It is their church organisations I grouse about.

With the National Cathedral directly coming out with a statement, the Episcopal Church as an organisation has weighed in against the hateful rhetoric of Trump, but not other church organisations.

For their embrace of LGBT people, the Anglican Convention threw them out.

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DangerMan  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:36:39pm

My neighborhood
Not my district

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:37:01pm

re: #20 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Cooked intel is a deeply embedded far right tradition
Major General Charles A. Willoughby (1892-1972) was MacArthur’s chief of intelligence through most of World War II and Korea. He has been called the most incompetent and destructive American general officer of the twentieth century.

Willoughby’s contribution(s) during the Korean War is subject to some significant controversy, with several sources insisting that he intentionally distorted, if not out and out suppressed, intelligence estimates that showed the Chinese were massing at the Yalu River. Willoughby allegedly did so in order to better support MacArthur’s (mistaken) assertion that the Chinese would never cross the Yalu, and thus allow MacArthur a freer hand in his drive to the Yalu.

MacArthur affectionately referred to him as “my pet fascist.” Willoughby’s “vitriolic, paranoid, and frequently fantastic” notes included antisemitic insults towards Beate Sirota Gordon, who helped write the Constitution of Japan. During World War II MacArthur said, “There have been three great intelligence officers in history. Mine is not one of them.” John Ferris in his 2007 book Intelligence and Strategy calls this an “understatement” and calls Willoughby a “candidate for one of the three worst intelligence officers of the Second World War” (p. 261).

Writer David Halberstam, in his book The Coldest Winter, paints Willoughby as largely having been appointed head of intelligence for Korea due to his sycophancy toward MacArthur. He points out that many veterans of the war, both enlisted and otherwise, felt that the lack of correct intelligence regarding the Chinese presence resulted in poor preparation by field commanders.

Willoughby was a great admirer of Francisco Franco even before the Spanish Civil War. After Willoughby’s forced retirement in 1952, he worked as a lobbyist for Franco and also worked closely with Phyllis Schlafly’s mentor H.L. Hunt. and fascist preacher Billy Hargis. He was a founding member of the John Birch Society and a major figure on the far right until his death in 1972.
In the mid-50s, Willoughby publicly revealed the existence and success of of the Soviets’ Richard Sorge spy ring in Tokyo during World War II. Of course, this also revealed that the US knew about the ring, something many operatives had hoped to conceal from the Soviets. The lapse may have cost one or more assets in the Soviet Union their lives. Willoughby claimed, though, that Sorge (executed by the Japanese in 1944) was still alive and operating in the United States at that time. He had also been the chief advocate for pardoning and even rewarding bio-weapons monster Shirō Ishii in exchange for data Ishii had collected at his infamous Unit 731, where Chinese and allied PoWs, including some Americans, were used as experimental subjects in lethal and inhumanly cruel experiments

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HappyWarrior  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:39:27pm

re: #49 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Cooked intel is a deeply embedded far right tradition
Major General Charles A. Willoughby (1892-1972) was MacArthur’s chief of intelligence through most of World War II and Korea. He has been called the most incompetent and destructive American general officer of the twentieth century.

Willoughby was a great admirer of Francisco Franco even before the Spanish Civil War. After Willoughby’s forced retirement in 1952, he worked as a lobbyist for Franco and also worked closely with Phyllis Schlafly’s mentor H.L. Hunt. and fascist preacher Billy Hargis. He was a founding member of the John Birch Society and a major figure on the far right until his death in 1972.
In the mid-50s, Willoughby publicly revealed the existence and success of of the Soviets’ Richard Sorge spy ring in Tokyo during World War II. Of course, this also revealed that the US knew about the ring, something many operatives had hoped to conceal from the Soviets. The lapse may have cost one or more assets in the Soviet Union their lives. Willoughby claimed, though, that Sorge (executed by the Japanese in 1944) was still alive and operating in the United States at that time. He had also been the chief advocate for pardoning and even rewarding bio-weapons monster Shirō Ishii in exchange for data Ishii had collected at his infamous Unit 731, where Chinese and allied PoWs, including some Americans, were used as experimental subjects in lethal and inhumanly cruel experiments

Wow had never heard of him. Never was a MacArthur fan. My mom’s father l, a Korean War vet told me he was relieved when Truman canned Dougie.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 6:44:24pm

re: #49 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This would make a good sidebar article here.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:04:05pm

EN VIVO | Pierluisi es el nuevo gobernador de Puerto Rico (Telemundo, in Spanish)

Pedro Pierluisi juramentó este viernes, justo después de las 5:00 p.m., como gobernador de Puerto Rico, convirtiéndose en el sucesor del renunciante Ricardo Rosselló.

(more, with video)

The head of the Commonwealth Department of Justice Wanda Vázquez declined to become Governor.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:14:40pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:15:51pm

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹🎃

This would make a good sidebar article here.

Done. Kept getting an error message. There was no error and I ended up posting it 4 times. Now cleared.

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:17:31pm
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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:17:48pm

re: #53 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Has she reached the percentage threshold?

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:18:13pm

re: #53 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Did she get the required poll requirements??

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Mattand  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:18:34pm

If Loomer does somehow secure the nomination, Democrats should nominate the one thing sure to defeat her: one half of an office building double door.

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plansbandc  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:22:28pm

re: #58 Mattand

instantrimshot.com

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:27:46pm

re: #50 HappyWarrior

Wow had never heard of him. Never was a MacArthur fan. My mom’s father l, a Korean War vet told me he was relieved when Truman canned Dougie.

In the days just before the Chinese intervention in Korea, MacArthur set out to prove personally that there was no Chinese threat. He had his pilots fly his luxuriously outfitted C-54 around the frozen Korean wastes, at a safe altitude of course, and peered out the window through binoculars. He saw no Chinese and pronounced the threat a hoax. He also awarded himself the Distinguished Flying Cross for this farce. The Chinese struck in massive force a few days later, nearly destroying MacArthur’s UN Army.

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sagehen  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:27:59pm

re: #12 MsJ

See…

You do know God has used many undeserving men before. No man is free of sin. I’m sure you’ve heard of Jesus protecting the prostitute.

I bet that’s not what she said about Bill Clinton.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:33:44pm

re: #54 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Done. Kept getting an error message. There was no error and I ended up posting it 4 times. Now cleared.

Upfisted your article and commented there.

I was entirely unaware of Willoughby’s existence.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:43:49pm

Oh for fuck sakes.

The Russians are determined to drag Gabbard through all these debates, aren’t they?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:44:08pm

Some generals, including then Chief of Staff Joseph Lawton Collins, saw MacArthur’s later insubordination as a heaven-sent opportunity to get rid of him. They could not say so in public of course, since Mac had the rabid support of the entire right wing. He was replaced by the tough-as-nails General Matthew Ridgway, who had already slowed the Chinese offensive as commander of the Eighth Army.
General Collins was the uncle of Apollo 11 astronaut Michael Collins. He lived to see the landing happen and many years beyond. He died in 1987 at the age of 91.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:45:38pm

(8:43)

She really likes Disturbed’s cover of “Sound of Silence” (she reviews a live concert video)

Voice Teacher Reaction to Disturbed - The Sound of Silence | David Draimen

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:46:13pm

re: #63 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh for fuck sakes.

The Russians are determined to drag Gabbard through all these debates, aren’t they?

1. They are.
2. It’s early.
3. Eventually she will not clear the poll threshold no matter how much money is thrown at her.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 7:54:57pm

re: #63 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh for fuck sakes.

The Russians are determined to drag Gabbard through all these debates, aren’t they?

That and the Republicans (but at this point it’s getting hard to tell the difference). They were the ones who put out the call for everyone and their pet dog to donate $1 so there would be discreet donors for her.

She hasn’t qualified yet in discreet polls however.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:07:06pm

Well, here’s an alleged Sanders supporter to block. (Read this guy’s bio.)

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:09:05pm

re: #68 Anymouse 🌹🎃

He’s blocked me already. So sensitive.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:11:09pm

re: #53 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I’m sure that plenty of RepubliKKKlan cash found it’s way to Tacky Tulsi!

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Sea Mexican  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:11:23pm

If anyone thought that the Puerto Rican government couldn’t slide further into crisis, they’re in for a surprise.

How naive I was.

Rosselló left his post at 5pm today. Some people tried to convince him to reverse his resignation. He made a last minute appointment for Secretary of State. Due to an arcane law approved around 10 years ago, there’s a question whether the SoS appointee can become governor without the approval of both legislative bodies (Pierluisi scrapped by the House). The senate will be meeting on Monday to evaluate the appointee (originally the senate president had called for Wednesday, but had to concede). A couple of minutes after 5pm, Pierluisi was sworn in as governor.

Now we have a bigger constitutional crisis! According to some lawyers, the rightful governor is the secretary of justice. They contend that the SoS must be approved by both legislative bodies to be able to take over. Some contend that the law is unconstitutional, therefore the political maneuver is unlawful.

And that’s without taking into account the skeletons in Pierluisi’s closet!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:12:03pm

re: #68 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Well, here’s an alleged Sanders supporter to block. (Read this guy’s bio.)

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She reached the donor threshold, but won’t qualify in the polls, so she and her russian friends can go on and on about the system being rigged. It’s getting old.

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:15:43pm

re: #72 I Would Prefer Not To

She reached the donor threshold, but won’t qualify in the polls, so she and her russian friends can go on and on about the system being rigged. It’s getting old.

“The nomination is rigged.”
“How so?”
“It’s rigged against women.”
“What about Warren and Harris?”
“It’s rigged against minorities.”
“Again Harris, but also Booker, and Castro.”
“It’s rigged against Assad supporters.”
“As it should be.”

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retired cynic  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:18:27pm

re: #73 Belafon

I just sent a bit more $ to Julian Castro, trying to help him bump up a bit in the polls. He deserves to be there.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:18:45pm

The warranty for my Bose radio expired yesterday.

So it died today…

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:19:14pm

So sweet!!!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:26:35pm

Warmongers gotta warmonger, and make excuses for it.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:30:28pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:33:17pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

I would really like to see debate moderation returned to the League of Women Voters.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:39:09pm

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I would really like to see debate moderation returned to the League of Women Voters.

Makes me wish that we had the British election model which requires broadcasters to give equal time to political party broadcasts during a General Election.

I still remember back in 1972 when Meet The Press, Face The Nation, ABC’s Issues And Answers and CBS Radio’s Capitol Cloakroom each had Humprey and McGovern debating on their shows AND REAL journalists asked tough questions. It got real heated between HHH and McGovern.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:40:13pm

re: #76 MsJ

Pretty amazing. What a connection they have.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:42:33pm

A clip of McGovern & HHH debating

The confident defeat that wasn’t

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Targetpractice  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:47:01pm

I fully expect the days prior to the debate to be chock full of screaming from rabid Gabbard “supporters” insisting that either A) she qualifies due to a set of cherry-picked polls or B) that the poll requirement is wrong and she should be allowed on-stage.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:51:25pm

re: #83 Targetpractice

I fully expect the days prior to the debate to be chock full of screaming from rabid Gabbard “supporters” insisting that either A) she qualifies due to a set of cherry-picked polls or B) that the poll requirement is wrong and she should be allowed on-stage.

RT and The Young Turks will be pushing that bullshit along with the rest of the usual suspects—Jimmy Dore, Susan Sarandon, Amy Goodman, etc…

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:56:48pm

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Warmongers gotta warmonger, and make excuses for it.

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:57:35pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

It’s both money and polls. And the cutoff for both has bee raised.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 2, 2019 • 8:59:20pm

It is now 8AM Moscow Mitch time.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:01:29pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:03:29pm

re: #84 Joe Bacon 🌹

RT and The Young Turks will be pushing that bullshit along with the rest of the usual suspects—Jimmy Dore, Susan Sarandon, Amy Goodman, etc…

What’s going to be hilarious is how they’re going to square her failing to get over the bar with Bernie getting in without breaking a sweat. My guess? Bernie will magically become an “establishment” candidate.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:09:20pm

I think you’re confused about who is the useful idiot.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:14:06pm

re: #88 jaunte

Same here, though I received mine in 1996 shortly before I was medically retired.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:14:21pm

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I think you’re confused about who is the useful idiot.

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So when is Glenn going to run into the Russian Embassy…and have his sorry ass thrown out?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:42:29pm

re: #88 jaunte

If enough veterans, reservists, and active duty personnel, along with their families and those who have children or parents become angry at this egregious abuse of power, the GOP may have lost one of its (alleged) reliable voting blocs.

I intend to inform the veterans in my town of this undue interference in a courts-martial.

I’ve looked for a couple days and still can’t find any case where anyone was stripped of a Navy Achievement Medal.

My own was awarded not for a single action or time in one command, but for the entirety of my Naval service. My citation is four pages long.

The Secretary of the Navy had no choices other than protest (and get fired) or carry out that order from Trump. He chose the craven option.

The Navy Department (the military under the civilian office) has no choice but to carry out the order or be cited for Contempt for Officials under the UCMJ.

Neither Presidents Obama nor Clinton ever treated the military like this. I don’t want to hate anyone, but Trump is sure making it hard. Anger, however, can be focused into positive actions. I want that guy out of my government and everyone who covers for him. I want an election repudiating everything his party has done, so massive they are thrown into the political wilderness or their party destroyed.

The hope I have is so many Republicans deciding to take a powder. They’re cowards for not standing up to him, but they also seem to see they’ve lost the battle of ideas.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:44:11pm

Interesting..

Rattlesnake drama time!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:48:53pm

Stonekettle’s reply is NSFW:

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MsJ  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:48:57pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:53:59pm

re: #96 MsJ

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 9:56:35pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:12:11pm

re: #92 Joe Bacon 🌹

So when is Glenn going to run into the Russian Embassy…and have his sorry ass thrown out?

Wait till he finds out his promised dacha is a surplus ammunition trailer in a Siberian swamp.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:12:37pm

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I am skeptical.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:12:40pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:13:02pm

Tulsibots are going full out to attack Harris, I notice on social media.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:13:32pm

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹🎃

John Schwartz

@jswatz
A Republican polling firm found that for younger Republicans, “climate change is their most important issue” and called the numbers “concerning” for the party’s future. @lffriedman nyti.ms

That’s the most hopeful news I’ve seen all week. Let’s see if the Democrats can succeed in promoting this issue and persuading enough Americans to vote in support in 2020. But, at this late point, is there enough time to stop the Russian interference in our elections?

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Dread Pirate  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:14:20pm

Ricardo Galvao had accused far-right Bolsonaro of “cowardice” for publicly questioning satellite data produced by the institute, known by its initials INPE, that showed Amazon rainforest deforestation had increased 88 percent on-year in June.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:17:30pm

a Bludgeoning of Bologna……

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:17:42pm

re: #102 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Tulsibots are going full out to attack Harris, I notice on social media.

Had lunch with a friend today who was regurgitating anti-Kamala propaganda. I expressed my skepticism — but maybe I should text her that much of what she was hearing was the same type of attacks that the Russians launched against Hillary. She is currently supporting Biden.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:19:29pm

re: #104 Dread Pirate

The head of Brazil’s National Institute for Space Research left his position Friday amid criticism by President Jair Bolsonaro about the agency’s reports on deforestation in the Amazon bit.ly

No wonder Trump likes Bolsonaro — he is clearly a man after Trump’s own heart.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:19:52pm

re: #82 Joe Bacon 🌹

And of course McGovern lost, probably due to the simple fact that Americans like candidates who are cocky and overly confident, and McGovern was seen as weak and perhaps effeminate.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:21:32pm

People want strong leaders. Strongmen. That’s why Trump got more votes than any other Republican in history. And that is why Bolsonaro won too.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:21:36pm

re: #100 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I am skeptical.

So am I … we’ll have to see how the voting actually goes.

Can a young Republican be concerned enough about climate (they have to live here as well) to overcome their revulsion of pulling the lever for a (D)? Stay tuned.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:26:18pm

re: #109 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

People want strong leaders. Strongmen. That’s why Trump got more votes than any other Republican in history. And that is why Bolsonaro won too.

In Bolsonaro’s case, the voters on the left were confronted with the Car Wash scandal, plus several parties could not pull their heads out of their collective behinds to defeat a unified fascist and militarist right wing.

The left vote split between a number of parties.

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CleverToad  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:33:03pm

Signed up to go to Kamala Harris’ Denver rally tonight.
Got there at 5:15, which is when the doors were scheduled to open. Later than I had planned to go, I was hoping to get there at least half an hour earlier.

Should have aimed for two hours earlier. The rally was held at a high school. When we got there, the line which started at the front door stretched about half a block back to the street, around a corner and down a long block, across a street and down a second block, then around the another corner. The park on the block north of the school had a lot of folks in it, kids on the playground and people waiting for the line to start moving. There was no parking to be had for at least four blocks in every direction. The folks we saw were a mix of ages, mostly young adult to middlish, some kids, not as many older folks. Maybe 2/3 white but not totally pale; seemed pretty enthusiastic.

I’d say they had a good turnout.

Didn’t stay ourselves because I’m a pasty-white old lady with arthritic knees; can’t walk or stand long enough to see whether we’d be able to get in. Will have to see if I can catch any clips or reviews of the speeches.

But glad to report that my congresscritter Jason Crow is one of the 118 who’ve come out for impeachment. Watched him talk to Joy Reid on the Maddow show tonight; need to leave him a message to say good for him and stick to it.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 2, 2019 • 10:55:19pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:05:12pm

Last week: “So yeah, we’re calling for rain through most of next week.”

Monday: “It’s looking like rain all weekend, so don’t make any plans.”

Wednesday: “Right now, we’re calling for rain on Friday and Saturday, drying out by Sunday.”

Friday morning: “So we’re calling for scattered storms tonight and all day tomorrow.”

Now: “It’s looking like some scattered showers in the morning, but drying out by early afternoon.”

Ah, summer in Virginia. Wait five minutes and the weather will change.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:06:45pm

re: #112 CleverToad

I was not aware she was in Denver tonight. Perhaps I could have mounted a trip and overnight stay.

I haven’t settled on which candidate to support in the Nebraska Primary yet, but Denver is about as close as any Democrat will get to me. (Rally in Cheyenne? Bwahahahaha.)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:15:14pm

re: #114 Targetpractice

Our weather radio popped off with an Amber Alert.

forecast.weather.gov

THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE IS TRANSMITTED AT THE REQUEST OF THE
NEBRASKA STATE PATROL.

A CHILD HAS BEEN ABDUCTED FROM LINCOLN IN/NEAR SOUTHEASTERN NEBRASKA.
THE LINCOLN POLICE DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING FOR A CHILD WHO WAS LAST
SEEN AT SOUTHEASTERN LINCOLN AND IS BELIEVED TO BE IN DANGER. THE
CHILDS NAME IS CAMILLE IACONO.

SHE IS A 14 OLD FEMALE, WITH BROWN WITH BLONDE HIGHLIGHTS HAIR THAT
WAS LAST SEEN WEARING BLACK DRESS WITH PINK PATTERN.

THE CHILD MAY BE IN THE COMPANY OF MALE POSSIBLY FROM TEXAS. THEY MAY
BE TRAVELING IN A RED SUV POSSIBLE TEXAS PLATES THAT WAS LAST SEEN
HEADING SOUTH.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:25:24pm

Just saw this retweeted by Joyce Alene

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:48:23pm

re: #117 Dread Pirate

Just saw this retweeted by Joyce Alene

This person is on the other side of my county.

The State Patrol noted the person was last seen headed south (that would be toward Kansas, and northern counties in Kansas also got the alert). However, central and western counties got it as well, because as the person from Bayard notes, people often come in this direction because it’s so rural and you can throw off a search.

On the other hand, unless you are familiar with the area or have a gazetteer, most of the rural roads will either get you thoroughly lost, or stuck at a dead end.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:51:15pm

re: #118 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Left out the tweet in question.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 2, 2019 • 11:53:48pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 3, 2019 • 12:03:49am

And once again, Evangelical Christianity shows it’s roots are really racism.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 3, 2019 • 12:15:24am

I wonder who forced him.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 3, 2019 • 12:24:07am

re: #122 Dread Pirate

I wonder who forced him.

Moscow Mitch? Leningrad Lindsey?

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Dread Pirate  Aug 3, 2019 • 12:30:32am

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Moscow Mitch? Leningrad Lindsay?

Trump hasn’t done any of of his required semi-annual Magnitsky Act reportage or enforcement for the past 18 months, as of a month ago, last I heard. What would make him bend on this? It’s either toothless or he and Putin negotiated a way around it.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 3, 2019 • 12:31:33am

re: #124 Dread Pirate

Trump hasn’t done any of of his required semi-annual Magnitsky Act reportage or enforcement for the past 18 months, as of a month ago, last I heard. What would make him bend on this? It’s either toothless or he and Putin negotiated a way around it.

I’m thinking Mitch McConnell is getting tired of being a called a Russian stooge.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 3, 2019 • 12:41:38am

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I’m thinking Mitch McConnell is getting tired of being a called a Russian stooge.

Nah his wife has been a Chinese stooge all these years, why would Mitch care about being a Russian stooge? They’ll be set for life with Russian and Chinese money coming in by the planeload.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 3, 2019 • 12:42:42am

Now, if I could intercept one of those planeloads….

What? I’m a pirate!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 3, 2019 • 12:58:46am

re: #126 Dread Pirate

Nah his wife has been a Chinese stooge all these years, why would Mitch care about being a Russian stooge? They’ll be set for life with Russian and Chinese money coming in by the planeload.

There is one thing he cares about: Being reëlected.

Being a Russian stooge (or even the appearance of it) gives Amy McGrath powerful ammunition with which to go after him.

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ericblair  Aug 3, 2019 • 1:52:49am

re: #126 Dread Pirate

Nah his wife has been a Chinese stooge all these years, why would Mitch care about being a Russian stooge? They’ll be set for life with Russian and Chinese money coming in by the planeload.

A counterintelligence probe getting a little too close for comfort?

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sagehen  Aug 3, 2019 • 2:39:51am

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Our weather radio popped off with an Amber Alert.

forecast.weather.gov

In a place with no cell-phones, that’s a clever way to get the Amber Alert out there…

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sagehen  Aug 3, 2019 • 2:41:40am

re: #122 Dread Pirate

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I wonder who forced him.

Boris Johnson?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 3, 2019 • 3:09:01am

The Tories are looking more and more like a failed party, and they seem to mimic our GOP:

Boris Johnson warned over possible resignations after by-election defeat

[…]

The Tories lost Thursday’s vote to the Lib Dems by a margin of 1,425 votes, in what was the quickest by-election defeat for any PM of the post-war period.

The ballot was triggered when then-MP Chris Davies was ousted by a recall petition after he admitted submitting false invoices for expenses.

But the Conservatives selected him to run again and he lost to Welsh Lib Dems leader Jane Dodds, whose party swung the vote nearly 12% from the Tories.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 3, 2019 • 3:13:14am

Those fighting Irish….

Leaked documents warn of potential chaos on Irish streets in case of a no-deal Brexit

British Government officials have warned the UK Government that there is potential for anarchy on Irish streets in the wake of a no-deal Brexit.

In a leaked Government briefing document marked “official sensitive” officials told politicians that Northern Ireland’s “law and order” is at risk.

In deeply worrying scenarios the document, obtained by Sky News, revealed that on the first day of Brexit the wheels of law enforcement will stall as it gathers “working” via “non-EU security channels”.

By the first fortnight Brexit will cause “consumer panic and food shortages” along with “possible increased risk of serious organised crime”. They believe there will be an increase in people smuggling and illegal migration and there will be illegal data breaches.

By the first month there will be “potential law and order challenges” in Northern Ireland and along the border.

[…]

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 3, 2019 • 3:19:51am

Brexiteers have as much adherence to the truth as Trumpers:

A Brexit Party MEP put a shocking claim about the EU on Facebook so we checked it

During an election campaign, politicians are known for making outlandish claims but a Brexit Party MEP has really gone for it.

Nathan Gill MEP was campaigning in the recent Brecon and Radnorshire by-election when he made the wild claim that schools in the area were forced to only source their food from Germany and France because of the EU’s “procurement arrangement”.

[…]

Mr Gill’s claim may be shocking, but it is also an outright lie.

[…]

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Ming5000  Aug 3, 2019 • 3:32:37am

re: #55 MsJ

Delaney with the Faux and Friends cast complaining about Warren and Sanders;
If you take it to an extreme, what’s next? Free vacations?
Despicable. Delaney is dead to me.
I was meh, neutral, didn’t know much about him, before. Now I dislike him.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 3, 2019 • 3:35:48am

So I’ve been looking at news feeds for years, especially the science stories.

And like with American television, where networks that started out with high goals (HGTV, History, etc.) ended up after several years to just running junk TV, RSS feeds for science stories now are full of unrealistic hyperbolic language.

I find it just another example of the deconstruction of society and the end of our democratic experiment.

When reality is no longer good enough, that all we want is faux drama because our overly automated economy now had dropped the need for us to have skills, we are like some sort of end-stage of human civilization, not unlike what H. G. Wells foresaw in The Time Machine.

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ericblair  Aug 3, 2019 • 3:42:48am

re: #136 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This long-studied phenomenon is called Network Decay. WARNING: Links to TV Tropes, do not follow if you have anything else to do today.

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mmmirele  Aug 3, 2019 • 3:57:34am

Ben Folds unveils “Moscow Mitch,” a mostly instrumental piece.

Ben Folds - Moscow Mitch- LIVE on NYC Rooftop 1AUG2019

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lawhawk  Aug 3, 2019 • 5:07:31am

re: #134 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

And the ones to benefit from the chaos in the EU and here in the US? Russia.

They benefit from the Brexit and EU uncertainty. They benefit from Trump laying waste to American foreign policy. They benefit from the lack of focus on Russian actions, because they get to expand their influence and agitprop operations uncontested.

It doesn’t hurt when you’ve got a lot of right wingers who put party over nation and have no problem lying to get ahead.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 3, 2019 • 5:20:31am

re: #109 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

People want strong leaders. Strongmen. That’s why Trump got more votes than any other Republican in history. And that is why Bolsonaro won too.

. You can see the same here in the Czech Republic and in Hungary and Poland too. Not to mention Russia, where autocracy is the default position.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 3, 2019 • 5:22:25am

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 3, 2019 • 5:24:29am

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹🎃

And once again, Evangelical Christianity shows it’s roots are really racism.

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Daubenmire can take his primitive ass-backwards views and shove them straight up his ass.

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steve_davis  Aug 3, 2019 • 5:39:47am

re: #60 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

In the days just before the Chinese intervention in Korea, MacArthur set out to prove personally that there was no Chinese threat. He had his pilots fly his luxuriously outfitted C-54 around the frozen Korean wastes, at a safe altitude of course, and peered out the window through binoculars. He saw no Chinese and pronounced the threat a hoax. He also awarded himself the Distinguished Flying Cross for this farce. The Chinese struck in massive force a few days later, nearly destroying MacArthur’s UN Army.

got an uncle who is still alive who was at the Chosin Clusterfuck as a staff officer. He’s in his late 90’s now, which lets you know that even ancient history still has its oral tradition going.

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steve_davis  Aug 3, 2019 • 5:41:14am

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹🎃

(8:43)

She really likes Disturbed’s cover of “Sound of Silence” (she reviews a live concert video)

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I like it too, but I’m pretty sure the lead singer’s gonna have no voice left by the time he’s in his 40’s.

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jeffreyw  Aug 3, 2019 • 5:41:33am

Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 5:58:29am

re: #140 Dr Lizardo

. You can see the same here in the Czech Republic and in Hungary and Poland too. Not to mention Russia, where autocracy is the default position.

It’s really sad that the end of Communism didn’t mean the end of authoritarianism. Lukashsnko has been in charge of Belarus for years and a lot of the Central Asian former SRs in independence are ruled by the same people or similar at least to Soviet times. It’s true. Communism fell in those countries but I’m wondering aloud here whether the Cold War ended but rather shifted. There definitely is an ideological battle and it’s not economics.

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BigPapa  Aug 3, 2019 • 6:01:58am

I recently read somewhere by some bigheads that 30% of any population craves authoritarianism and that’s why democracy is always in jeopardy.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 3, 2019 • 6:05:06am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

re: #147 BigPapa

I’d agree that about 25% to 33% of any given population wants authoritarian rule. It seems to be hard-wired into a lot of people.

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Belafon  Aug 3, 2019 • 6:05:34am

re: #126 Dread Pirate

Nah his wife has been a Chinese stooge all these years, why would Mitch care about being a Russian stooge? They’ll be set for life with Russian and Chinese money coming in by the planeload.

McConnell has been reacting to it because it’s defining him for his election. They are selling t-shirts in Kentucky. He’s not liking it because he’s already unpopular. He was just hoping to make the Democrat less popular.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 6:09:32am

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

I’d agree that about 25% to 33% of any given population wants authoritarian rule. It seems to be hard-wired into a lot of people.

Sounds about right.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 3, 2019 • 6:12:09am

Stefan Molyneaux pops up on Twitter to get dragged by women (and a lot of men) again.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 6:12:10am

re: #149 Belafon

McConnell has been reacting to it because it’s defining him for his election. They are selling t-shirts in Kentucky. He’s not liking it because he’s already unpopular. He was just hoping to make the Democrat less popular.

McGrath is such a perfect candidate to go up against him. It’s not going to be an easy campaign by a long shot but I think she’s going to make Mitch play defense along with the Moscow Mitch stuff.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 6:12:41am

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Stefan Molyneaux pops up on Twitter to get dragged by women (and a lot of men) again.

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This dude is really creepy.

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DangerMan  Aug 3, 2019 • 6:13:17am

re: #149 Belafon

McConnell has been reacting to it because it’s defining him for his election. They are selling t-shirts in Kentucky. He’s not liking it because he’s already unpopular. He was just hoping to make the Democrat less popular.

I think it’s gonna define him forever
There is no washing this off

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Belafon  Aug 3, 2019 • 6:14:41am

re: #152 HappyWarrior

McGrath is such a perfect candidate to go up against him. It’s not going to be an easy campaign by a long shot but I think she’s going to make Mitch play defense along with the Moscow Mitch stuff.

McGrath and Hegar vs McConnell and Cornyn. I would love veteran women to take down Republican leadership.

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nowherenorth2  Aug 3, 2019 • 6:19:29am

re: #153 HappyWarrior

He is what the right wants to become: faux intellectual, white supremacist, MRA, and giving the air of authority on things he has no clue about but thinks his word is law.
Dude is creepy af

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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 6:22:01am

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Stefan Molyneaux pops up on Twitter to get dragged by women (and a lot of men) again.

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And here I thought it was a herpes virus that could cause cancer.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 6:36:41am

re: #155 Belafon

McGrath and Hegar vs McConnell and Cornyn. I would love veteran women to take down Republican leadership.

Same.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 6:38:51am

re: #156 nowherenorth2

He is what the right wants to become: faux intellectual, white supremacist, MRA, and giving the air of authority on things he has no clue about but thinks his word is law.
Dude is creepy af

Sums it up nicely imo.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 3, 2019 • 6:44:23am

I’ll take “Things that are doomed to fail” for $1000, Alex:

(Politico)President Donald Trump is looking to woo black voters — if he can make them forget about his tweets.

The Trump 2020 campaign has been quietly reaching out to prominent African Americans about joining its latest coalition, intended to boost Republican support in the black community. The effort comes just as the president capped off a month filled with racially divisive language and Twitter taunts aimed at House Oversight Chairman Elijah Cummings and four freshman congresswomen of color.

Critics may find the timing of the outreach outrageous. But the campaign hopes that if it can shave off just a few points off Democrats’ overwhelming support among blacks, it can boost voter turnout in eight or so key states such as Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania — each of which Trump won by less than one percentage point.

The campaign’s pitch to African Americans is simple: Ignore the president’s words and instead focus on his policies, like the state of the economy and the low unemployment rate, the passage of criminal justice reform or the creation of Opportunity Zones, which are meant to bolster investment in underserved or poorer cities.

When Trump took office in January 2017, the unemployment rate among blacks was 7.7 percent. Friday’s jobs report pegged it at 6 percent for July.

“Do I think some of his verbal formulations are in artful? Yeah,” said Ken Blackwell, the former mayor of Cincinnati, former Ohio Secretary of State and a top Trump transition official. “But for me, as a domestic policy adviser during the Trump transition, it has been all about the agenda, a set of results and tomorrow. You have to believe his policy agenda flies in the face of the false narrative of the racist-in-charge.”

But for others, the Trump rhetoric cannot be divorced from his record, and critics argue he must take responsibility for that as president. A recent Quinnipiac University National Poll, released on July 30, showed that 80 percent of African American voters surveyed considered Trump racist.

I’m guessing this is probably related to that “Inner cities voter push” several outlets reported on last week, but regardless this is never going to fucking work because it basically boils down to the GOP saying: “Hey, vote for us all you worthless uppity negroes from crime infested cities!”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 6:46:33am

re: #161 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ll take “Things that are doomed to fail” for $1000, Alex:

(Politico)President Donald Trump is looking to woo black voters — if he can make them forget about his tweets.

The Trump 2020 campaign has been quietly reaching out to prominent African Americans about joining its latest coalition, intended to boost Republican support in the black community. The effort comes just as the president capped off a month filled with racially divisive language and Twitter taunts aimed at House Oversight Chairman Elijah Cummings and four freshman congresswomen of color.

Critics may find the timing of the outreach outrageous. But the campaign hopes that if it can shave off just a few points off Democrats’ overwhelming support among blacks, it can boost voter turnout in eight or so key states such as Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania — each of which Trump won by less than one percentage point.

The campaign’s pitch to African Americans is simple: Ignore the president’s words and instead focus on his policies, like the state of the economy and the low unemployment rate, the passage of criminal justice reform or the creation of Opportunity Zones, which are meant to bolster investment in underserved or poorer cities.

When Trump took office in January 2017, the unemployment rate among blacks was 7.7 percent. Friday’s jobs report pegged it at 6 percent for July.

“Do I think some of his verbal formulations are in artful? Yeah,” said Ken Blackwell, the former mayor of Cincinnati, former Ohio Secretary of State and a top Trump transition official. “But for me, as a domestic policy adviser during the Trump transition, it has been all about the agenda, a set of results and tomorrow. You have to believe his policy agenda flies in the face of the false narrative of the racist-in-charge.”

But for others, the Trump rhetoric cannot be divorced from his record, and critics argue he must take responsibility for that as president. A recent Quinnipiac University National Poll, released on July 30, showed that 80 percent of African American voters surveyed considered Trump racist.

I’m guessing this is probably related to that “Inner cities voter push” several outlets reported on last week, but regardless this is never going to fucking work because it basically boils down to the GOP saying: “Hey, vote for us all you worthless uppity negroes from crime infested cities!”

It’s not going to work. They know what he is.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 3, 2019 • 6:51:24am

re: #161 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ll take “Things that are doomed to fail” for $1000, Alex:

(Politico)President Donald Trump is looking to woo black voters — if he can make them forget about his tweets.

The Trump 2020 campaign has been quietly reaching out to prominent African Americans about joining its latest coalition, intended to boost Republican support in the black community. The effort comes just as the president capped off a month filled with racially divisive language and Twitter taunts aimed at House Oversight Chairman Elijah Cummings and four freshman congresswomen of color.

Critics may find the timing of the outreach outrageous. But the campaign hopes that if it can shave off just a few points off Democrats’ overwhelming support among blacks, it can boost voter turnout in eight or so key states such as Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania — each of which Trump won by less than one percentage point.

The campaign’s pitch to African Americans is simple: Ignore the president’s words and instead focus on his policies, like the state of the economy and the low unemployment rate, the passage of criminal justice reform or the creation of Opportunity Zones, which are meant to bolster investment in underserved or poorer cities.

When Trump took office in January 2017, the unemployment rate among blacks was 7.7 percent. Friday’s jobs report pegged it at 6 percent for July.

“Do I think some of his verbal formulations are in artful? Yeah,” said Ken Blackwell, the former mayor of Cincinnati, former Ohio Secretary of State and a top Trump transition official. “But for me, as a domestic policy adviser during the Trump transition, it has been all about the agenda, a set of results and tomorrow. You have to believe his policy agenda flies in the face of the false narrative of the racist-in-charge.”

But for others, the Trump rhetoric cannot be divorced from his record, and critics argue he must take responsibility for that as president. A recent Quinnipiac University National Poll, released on July 30, showed that 80 percent of African American voters surveyed considered Trump racist.

I’m guessing this is probably related to that “Inner cities voter push” several outlets reported on last week, but regardless this is never going to fucking work because it basically boils down to the GOP saying: “Hey, vote for us all you worthless uppity negroes from crime infested cities!”

“Yo, uppity rat-infested shithole residents, keep your guns and minimum wage call center jobs! Vote Trump!”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 3, 2019 • 6:53:40am

re: #157 Old Liberal

And here I thought it was a herpes virus that could cause cancer.

And there’s a vaccine for that. Molyneaux is one of those libertarians who say “the government can’t force me to get vaccines,” not because he doesn’t think vaccines work, but because he takes their idea of force and takes it an extremist view shared with some conservatives: Government agents are literally going to come to your home and drag you out if you fail to comply with vaccination schedules.

He is an antivaxxer in the sense he feels the government has no right to keep him out of public spaces without vaccinations.

He is also one of the libertarian types who believes if you find a woman on your property, she’s your property (women should have no rights).

Not really suprised his wife left him and took the kids.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 3, 2019 • 6:54:38am

re: #162 HappyWarrior

It’s not going to work. They know what he is.

On the bright side, at least they’re spending $$$ on a completely futile effort. That’s less money they’ll have to spend on other things.

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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 6:55:12am

re: #160 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Cheaper than dirt:

Amazon allegedly scammed out of $370K by 22-year-old’s return shipments of dirt

Somebody had inside information. I’m surprised Amazon doesn’t flag people who return many items

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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 6:57:51am

re: #161 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ll take “Things that are doomed to fail” for $1000, Alex:

(Politico)President Donald Trump is looking to woo black voters — if he can make them forget about his tweets.

The Trump 2020 campaign has been quietly reaching out to prominent African Americans about joining its latest coalition, intended to boost Republican support in the black community. The effort comes just as the president capped off a month filled with racially divisive language and Twitter taunts aimed at House Oversight Chairman Elijah Cummings and four freshman congresswomen of color.

Critics may find the timing of the outreach outrageous. But the campaign hopes that if it can shave off just a few points off Democrats’ overwhelming support among blacks, it can boost voter turnout in eight or so key states such as Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania — each of which Trump won by less than one percentage point.

The campaign’s pitch to African Americans is simple: Ignore the president’s words and instead focus on his policies, like the state of the economy and the low unemployment rate, the passage of criminal justice reform or the creation of Opportunity Zones, which are meant to bolster investment in underserved or poorer cities.

When Trump took office in January 2017, the unemployment rate among blacks was 7.7 percent. Friday’s jobs report pegged it at 6 percent for July.

“Do I think some of his verbal formulations are in artful? Yeah,” said Ken Blackwell, the former mayor of Cincinnati, former Ohio Secretary of State and a top Trump transition official. “But for me, as a domestic policy adviser during the Trump transition, it has been all about the agenda, a set of results and tomorrow. You have to believe his policy agenda flies in the face of the false narrative of the racist-in-charge.”

But for others, the Trump rhetoric cannot be divorced from his record, and critics argue he must take responsibility for that as president. A recent Quinnipiac University National Poll, released on July 30, showed that 80 percent of African American voters surveyed considered Trump racist.

I’m guessing this is probably related to that “Inner cities voter push” several outlets reported on last week, but regardless this is never going to fucking work because it basically boils down to the GOP saying: “Hey, vote for us all you worthless uppity negroes from crime infested cities!”

“Inartful “. Fuck them.

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DangerMan  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:00:21am

i hate that the Make America Kittens Again app doesnt recognize chuckles johnson

i really do not like seeing his mug

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:03:22am

re: #165 Dr Lizardo

On the bright side, at least they’re spending $$$ on a completely futile effort. That’s less money they’ll have to spend on other things.

If there is one thing Trump is exceptionally good at, it’s wasting money.

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DangerMan  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:03:28am

re: #161 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ll take “Things that are doomed to fail” for $1000, Alex:

(Politico)President Donald Trump is looking to woo black voters — if he can make them forget about his tweets.

i am all for him and his team wasting time on every fool’s errand they can think up

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:03:52am

re: #167 Old Liberal

“Inartful “. Fuck them.

Yeah, my eyes rolled into the back of my head and around again when I saw that one.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:05:12am

re: #169 Eclectic Cyborg

If there is one thing Trump is exceptionally good at, it’s wasting money.

Well, he’s been doing it his entire life.

He’s got it down to a science by now.

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DangerMan  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:05:14am

re: #166 Old Liberal

Somebody had inside information. I’m surprised Amazon doesn’t flag people who return many items

im surprised they dont open the returned boxes when received.
certainly within ‘30 days’

no one before this kid thought of returning a brick?

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jaunte  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:05:17am

re: #167 Old Liberal

“Inartful “. Fuck them.

He’s way past The Art Of The Dogwhistle.

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DangerMan  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:06:06am

re: #169 Eclectic Cyborg

If there is one thing Trump is exceptionally good at, it’s wasting other people’s money.

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Targetpractice  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:07:16am

re: #161 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ll take “Things that are doomed to fail” for $1000, Alex:

(Politico)President Donald Trump is looking to woo black voters — if he can make them forget about his tweets.

The Trump 2020 campaign has been quietly reaching out to prominent African Americans about joining its latest coalition, intended to boost Republican support in the black community. The effort comes just as the president capped off a month filled with racially divisive language and Twitter taunts aimed at House Oversight Chairman Elijah Cummings and four freshman congresswomen of color.

Critics may find the timing of the outreach outrageous. But the campaign hopes that if it can shave off just a few points off Democrats’ overwhelming support among blacks, it can boost voter turnout in eight or so key states such as Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania — each of which Trump won by less than one percentage point.

The campaign’s pitch to African Americans is simple: Ignore the president’s words and instead focus on his policies, like the state of the economy and the low unemployment rate, the passage of criminal justice reform or the creation of Opportunity Zones, which are meant to bolster investment in underserved or poorer cities.

When Trump took office in January 2017, the unemployment rate among blacks was 7.7 percent. Friday’s jobs report pegged it at 6 percent for July.

“Do I think some of his verbal formulations are in artful? Yeah,” said Ken Blackwell, the former mayor of Cincinnati, former Ohio Secretary of State and a top Trump transition official. “But for me, as a domestic policy adviser during the Trump transition, it has been all about the agenda, a set of results and tomorrow. You have to believe his policy agenda flies in the face of the false narrative of the racist-in-charge.”

But for others, the Trump rhetoric cannot be divorced from his record, and critics argue he must take responsibility for that as president. A recent Quinnipiac University National Poll, released on July 30, showed that 80 percent of African American voters surveyed considered Trump racist.

I’m guessing this is probably related to that “Inner cities voter push” several outlets reported on last week, but regardless this is never going to fucking work because it basically boils down to the GOP saying: “Hey, vote for us all you worthless uppity negroes from crime infested cities!”

What “policy agenda”? There’s not much of anything Trump can point to to say that the downward trend of black unemployment since 2010 was in any way influenced by him. It went from 16.8% at its highest to 6%, with only 1.7% of that happening during Trump’s presidency. The remaining 9%? All during Obama’s presidency, when he actually enacted policies that got the economy moving again and businesses hiring again. And note that the entire sales pitch assumes one major thing: The economy doesn’t collapse between now and next November.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:07:20am

re: #174 jaunte

He’s way past The Art Of The Dogwhistle.

Yeah, it’s more like “The Art of the Foghorn” now.

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Targetpractice  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:09:11am

Get ready for another hit to your retirement portfolio:

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:11:56am

re: #171 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah, my eyes rolled into the back of my head and around again when I saw that one.

“The war situation has developed in a way that is not necessarily to Japan’s advantage.”
-Emperor Hirohito’s surrender message to the Japanese people, 1945.

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DangerMan  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:12:32am

re: #178 Targetpractice

Get ready for another hit to your retirement portfolio:

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tariffs
he’s a one trick pony

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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:13:43am

re: #174 jaunte

He’s way past The Art Of The Dogwhistle.

There are people who identify as black who are anti LGBT, anti abortion, evangelical and even prosperity gospel followers. So there’s that.

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Targetpractice  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:15:12am

re: #180 DangerMan

tariffs
he’s a one trick pony

What gets me is he has not learned a damned thing yet about where the actual leverage lies. He still thinks he’s a CEO knuckling a small-time contractor with threats that he’ll withhold payment if they don’t agree to a lower price. His own Fed chairman telling him that this shit is endangering his “great economy” totally sailed over his head.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:15:52am

re: #170 DangerMan

i am all for him and his team wasting time on every fool’s errand they can think up

you people are not being cynical enough…

He’s not trying to get black voters. He’s just trying to give cover to his racist base. Look at all the things he’s done for black people, etc. etc. A real racist wouldn’t want black votes, etc.

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DangerMan  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:17:35am

Baltimore Sun does it again

The pitiful day a U.S. president used a political rally to mock Baltimore’s homicide rate

This is the behavior of a jerk, a clod, a dolt, a schmuck.

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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:20:30am

re: #183 I Would Prefer Not To

you people are not being cynical enough…

He’s not trying to get black voters. He’s just trying to give cover to his racist base. Look at all the things he’s done for black people, etc. etc. A real racist wouldn’t want black votes, etc.

And to give an “out” for white people bothered by his words to vote for drumpf since he has actually “helped”black people

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:23:37am

re: #167 Old Liberal

“Inartful “. Fuck them.

The whole article is chock full of that.

racially divisive language = racist language
Twitter taunts aimed at House Oversight Chairman Elijah Cummings and four freshman congresswomen of color. = racist taunts
Critics may find the timing of the outreach outrageous = critics find it disingenuous

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:23:37am

re: #154 DangerMan

Good. He’s a miserable bastard.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:24:08am

re: #173 DangerMan

im surprised they dont open the returned boxes when received.
certainly within ‘30 days’

no one before this kid thought of returning a brick?

What got this kid nailed is how MUCH he did it. I’m sure Amazon gets a fair number of brick returns but most people probably only do it once or twice and get away with it.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:25:00am

re: #184 DangerMan

Baltimore Sun does it again

The pitiful day a U.S. president used a political rally to mock Baltimore’s homicide rate

Upding to the Sun for “schmuck.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:25:08am

re: #178 Targetpractice

Get ready for another hit to your retirement portfolio:

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OTHER COUNTRIES DON’T PAY TARIFFS YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE, AMERICANS DO.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:26:54am

re: #173 DangerMan

im surprised they dont open the returned boxes when received.
certainly within ‘30 days’

no one before this kid thought of returning a brick?

They probably thought Amazon couldn’t possibly be dumb enough to fall for it.

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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:27:11am

I’m ready for the sweet meteor of death. Homo sapiens is not adapting to overpopulation and technology. As we are ever more concentrated ever more connected we need cooperation and coordination. Or as 40% say “socialism and big government “.
So many poo flingers. Morans. Loomers. Anti vaccers qanon religious extremists.

Houston we have a problem. And this one is baked in to the species.

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retired cynic  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:27:20am

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Our weather radio popped off with an Amber Alert.

forecast.weather.gov

Heard through the grapevine that a 14 year old abducted female was rescued here, from a red van, last night. Thought it was an IL van, however, with a group of undocumented people working at a notorious local meat processing plant. And that the girl was from “down south”. All hearsay at this point.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:28:25am

re: #193 retired cynic

Heard through the grapevine that a 14 year old abducted female was rescued here, from a red van, last night. Thought it was an IL van, however, with a group of undocumented people working at a notorious local meat processing plant. And that the girl was from “down south”. All hearsay at this point.

Can you elaborate on this? I’m curious.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:30:56am

re: #189 Anymouse 🌹🎃

They had me at “clod.”

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:31:30am

re: #190 Eclectic Cyborg

OTHER COUNTRIES DON’T PAY TARIFFS YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE.

I can only imagine that his advisors/sycophants have tried explaining this to him time and time again, all to no avail.

They probably gave up ages ago.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:31:55am

re: #195 Ace Rothstein

They had me at “clod.”

Jerk. It’s simple but so spot on. Trump is a jerk.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:35:14am

re: #178 Targetpractice

Get ready for another hit to your retirement portfolio:

Which countries?

Tariffs are targeting your own voters, not other countries (and regrettably those of us who didn’t vote for this are being targeted as well).

My so-called never-Trumper senator Ben Sasse is just fine with Trump’s tariffs (basically complicit in silence) even as it destroys the state’s largest income-and-export generator (agricultural products). He’s too craven to say this is bad for the state.

Meanwhile Deb Fischer is just plain all aboard the Trump Train … she was one of his first supporters and doesn’t give a damn about agriculture.

As the USDA notes, the overwheming majority of farms are small family farms (defined as earnings of less than $350,000 a year). Nebraska actually has one of the lowest percentages by state, with 74% of such farms.

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Belafon  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:37:21am
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Belafon  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:38:09am

You all have jobs to do:

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:39:48am

re: #193 retired cynic

Heard through the grapevine that a 14 year old abducted female was rescued here, from a red van, last night. Thought it was an IL van, however, with a group of undocumented people working at a notorious local meat processing plant. And that the girl was from “down south”. All hearsay at this point.

(with video, KETV Omaha channel 7)

UPDATE: Amber alert canceled; missing Lincoln girl found

Police issued an amber alert Friday night for 14-year-old Camille Iacono was reported missing.

That amber alert is now canceled after police found the girl hundreds of miles away.

Police say she was found safely in Colorado.

Investigators have not released information on how she got there or if anyone was arrested.

Check back for more updates.

Previous reporting says she was a runaway who may have run due to child enticement.

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retired cynic  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:40:59am

re: #194 Eclectic Cyborg

Can you elaborate on this? I’m curious.

The plant has relied on undocumented workers for decades. Beardstown, IL.

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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:41:11am

re: #198 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Which countries?

Tariffs are targeting your own voters, not other countries (and regrettably those of us who didn’t vote for this are being targeted as well).

My so-called never-Trumper senator Ben Sasse is just fine with Trump’s tariffs (basically complicit in silence) even as it destroys the state’s largest income-and-export generator (agricultural products). He’s too craven to say this is bad for the state.

Meanwhile Deb Fischer is just plain all aboard the Trump Train … she was one of his first supporters and doesn’t give a damn about agriculture.

As the USDA notes, the overwheming majority of farms are small family farms (defined as earnings of less than $350,000 a year). Nebraska actually has one of the lowest percentages by state, with 74% of such farms.

American based manufacturing was sold down the river by policies promoting the dominance of chain retail stores. None of this was inevitable it was a lobbyist driven policy choice. Same with agriculture. I think there is a place for strategic protectionism for example new energy technologies. But everything falls victim to big money players.

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jaunte  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:45:28am
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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:48:31am

re: #204 jaunte

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Vampires can’t see themselves I hear

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:49:32am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:50:06am

re: #202 retired cynic

The plant has relied on undocumented workers for decades. Beardstown, IL.

Ah, so it probably has safety and health violations out the yin yang too. Not because the workers are undocumented but because the company apparently doesn’t give a shit about the law.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:52:58am

re: #184 DangerMan

Baltimore Sun does it again

The pitiful day a U.S. president used a political rally to mock Baltimore’s homicide rate

I’m going to subscribe to show my support.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:53:25am

re: #204 jaunte

🤦

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:55:02am

re: #204 jaunte

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Projection thy name is Don Jr.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:55:10am

re: #206 I Would Prefer Not To

It’s really harder to say which one is less self-aware, Uday or Qusay.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:55:50am

re: #196 Dr Lizardo

I can only imagine that his advisors/sycophants have tried explaining this to him time and time again, all to no avail.

They probably gave up ages ago.

That, and they don’t really care if the tariffs hurt the 99%.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:56:00am

re: #211 Anymouse 🌹🎃

It’s really harder to say which one is less self-aware, Uday or Qusay.

Uday. Qusay shuts up sometimes. He thinks he’s Sonny but they’re all Fredos.

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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:56:18am

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

Ah, so it probably has safety and health violations out the yin yang too. Not because the workers are undocumented but because the company apparently doesn’t give a shit about the law.

Meat processing went virtually 100% illegal workers starting in the 80s. Funny how neither D nor R governments ever cracked down even though everyone knew where all of them were. Cheap meat. Used to be all-union operations.

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retired cynic  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:57:12am

re: #214 Old Liberal

They get fined, but just keep rolling.

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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 7:59:08am

re: #215 retired cynic

They get fined, but just keep rolling.

Fined for hiring illegals? Or H&S violations?

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retired cynic  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:03:50am

re: #216 Old Liberal

Fined for hiring illegals? Or H&S violations?

I’ve heard about the former. Not sure about the latter, but would not be surprised.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:06:54am

re: #215 retired cynic

They get fined, but just keep rolling.

Makes sense. No need to worry about rules when you can afford to break them.

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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:07:02am

re: #217 retired cynic

I’ve heard about the former. Not sure about the latter, but would not be surprised.

Interesting how the infantrupen are not raiding the big meat operators but are terrorizing people on the street. Wonder why?

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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:07:42am

re: #218 Eclectic Cyborg

Makes sense. No need to worry about rules when you can afford to break them.

I’m sure lobbyists helped structure the fines

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Teddy's Person  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:12:27am

Republicans know they’re demographically screwed.

In 2018, the most common age for white Americans was 58. For other demographics, “the most common age was 11 for Hispanics, 27 for blacks and 29 for Asians.” Source: Pew Research Center

The Democratic nominees need to be candidates who can deal with the scorched-earth campaigns of all Republicans. The GOP has been increasingly awful for over half a century, but I fear, we ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:17:41am

re: #221 Teddy’s Person

Republicans know they’re demographically screwed.

In 2018, the most common age for white Americans was 58. For other demographics, “the most common age was 11 for Hispanics, 27 for blacks and 29 for Asians.” Source: Pew Research Center

The Democratic nominees need to be candidates who can deal with the scorched-earth campaigns of all Republicans. The GOP has been increasingly awful for over half a century, but I fear, we ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

There are plenty of stories behind these numbers, but I’d venture a guess that, in addition to the baby boom generation (that was primarily a white thing), another factor causing whites to average significantly older in this study is that many of us have a better standard of living than do minorities (generally speaking of course). More of us living longer means the average age for our group goes up. More people dying young and the average age goes down. Also, I’m pretty sure we’re not having as many kids as minorities either.

Of course there IS a coming demographic shift and white people who don’t realize that really have their bigoted heads in the sand.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:24:51am

re: #222 Eclectic Cyborg

There are plenty of stories behind these numbers, but I’d venture a guess that, in addition to the baby boom generation (that was primarily a white thing), another factor causing whites to average significantly older in this study is that many of us have a better standard of living than do minorities (generally speaking of course). More of us living longer means the average age for our group goes up. More people dying young and the average age goes down. Also, I’m pretty sure we’re not having as many kids as minorities either.

Of course there IS a coming demographic shift and white people who don’t realize that really have their bigoted heads in the sand.

Also, the wildly racist 1924 Immigration and Naturalization Act, which severely limited immigration to Western and Northern Europe, curtailed Southern Europe, practically banned it from Eastern Europe, Africa, and Asia.

Both the Census Bureau and CDC have noted the demographic shift for years. The contrarianism of conservatives to immigration throughout the history of the nation is to prevent becoming a plurality rather than an absolute majority.

Of course pretty much everyone here knows that.

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sagehen  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:30:49am

There’s a really easy way to keep whites from becoming a minority…

All those non-Hispanic whites who worry about their shrinking numbers need to just reclassify the white Hispanics as White instead of Hispanic. Voila, not a minority anymore.

This has happened before, the Irish became white when John L Sullivan won the heavyweight title, and Italians became white when Joe DiMaggio married Marilyn Monroe.

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Belafon  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:33:55am

re: #224 sagehen

There’s a really easy way to keep whites from becoming a minority…

All those non-Hispanic whites who worry about their shrinking numbers need to just reclassify the white Hispanics as White instead of Hispanic. Voila, not a minority anymore.

This has happened before, the Irish became white when John L Sullivan won the heavyweight title, and Italians became white when Joe DiMaggio married Marilyn Monroe.

The problem is that Latinos aren’t playing along. To be counted as white, you have to do white people stuff: speak English all the time, be protestant, be racist against blacks. Latinos aren’t doing that stuff the way whites want.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:35:30am

re: #225 Belafon

The problem is that Latinos aren’t playing along. To be counted as white, you have to do white people stuff: speak English all the time, be protestant, be racist against blacks. Latinos aren’t doing that stuff the way whites want.

Whatcu talking about, ese?”

//

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wrenchwench  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:36:41am

re: #224 sagehen

There’s a really easy way to keep whites from becoming a minority…

All those non-Hispanic whites who worry about their shrinking numbers need to just reclassify the white Hispanics as White instead of Hispanic. Voila, not a minority anymore.

This has happened before, the Irish became white when John L Sullivan won the heavyweight title, and Italians became white when Joe DiMaggio married Marilyn Monroe.

They’re working on it. ‘Hispanic’ is an ethnicity, not a race, on some official documents (old versions, probably). So it’s one from column A, two or more from column B, or however a person wants to identify themselves, as far as I’m concerned.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:36:45am

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

I’d agree that about 25% to 33% of any given population wants authoritarian rule. It seems to be hard-wired into a lot of people.

re: #147 BigPapa

I recently read somewhere by some bigheads that 30% of any population craves authoritarianism and that’s why democracy is always in jeopardy.

Certainly many who are devout followers of Western religions are susceptible: what is more authoritarian than a patriarchal religion interpreted by religious leaders who preach that G-d is a tyrant who demands death and/or eternal suffering for anyone who disagrees with their religious tenets?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:38:56am

Getting the definitions straight:

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:40:31am

re: #225 Belafon

The problem is that Latinos aren’t playing along. To be counted as white, you have to do white people stuff: speak English all the time, be protestant, be racist against blacks. Latinos aren’t doing that stuff the way whites want.

It was easier for the Irish to become white. Just had to lose their accents.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:41:55am

re: #227 wrenchwench

They’re working on it. ‘Hispanic’ is an ethnicity, not a race, on some official documents (old versions, probably). So it’s one from column A, two or more from column B, or however a person wants to identify themselves, as far as I’m concerned.

It’s a complicated concept to a lot of people.

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jaunte  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:42:15am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:43:04am

re: #232 jaunte

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jaunte  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:43:53am

re: #233 HappyWarrior

“Take a shot of Joe”

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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:44:46am

re: #228 Hecuba’s daughter

Certainly many who are devout followers of Western religions are susceptible: what is more authoritarian than a patriarchal religion interpreted by religious leaders who preach that G-d is a tyrant who demands death and/or eternal suffering for anyone who disagrees with their religious tenets?

But he loves you so much

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:50:23am

re: #228 Hecuba’s daughter

Certainly many who are devout followers of Western religions are susceptible: what is more authoritarian than a patriarchal religion interpreted by religious leaders who preach that G-d is a tyrant who demands death and/or eternal suffering for anyone who disagrees with their religious tenets?

Pew just did another survey of religious knowledge, released a few weeks ago.

They caution it is difficult to compare its survey from 2010, because questions were added, and an “I don’t know” answer was explicitly included this time.

pewforum.org

Americans even failed on basic Christianity questions as regular church-going Christians.

They also cautioned it’s not clear what Americans should know about religion.

Large chunks of Christians for example failed on what the Constitution requires for public office vis religious belief.

And when asked what the U.S. Constitution says about religion as it relates to federal officeholders, just one-quarter (27%) correctly answer that it says “no religious test” shall be a qualification for holding office; 15% incorrectly believe the Constitution requires federal officeholders to affirm that all men are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, 12% think the Constitution requires elected officials to be sworn in using the Bible, 13% think the Constitution is silent on this issue, and 31% say they are not sure.

That right there is why it is so hard for minority faith-holders and especially atheists to get elected.

On the central tenet of Christianity:

Overall, eight-in-ten U.S. adults correctly answer that in the Christian tradition, Easter commemorates the resurrection of Jesus - rather than the Crucifixion, the Ascension to heaven or the Last Supper.

Four out of five incorrectly identified “salvation by faith alone” as either Catholic doctrine or all Christian doctrine.

51% correctly identified the Sermon on the Mount was delivered by Jesus and not one of the Gospel writers.

On average, Jews, atheists, agnostics and evangelical Protestants score highest on the new survey of religious knowledge, outperforming members of other Protestant traditions, Catholics, Mormons and Americans who describe their religion as “nothing in particular.”

Jews get 18.7 questions right, on average. Self-described atheists and agnostics also display relatively high levels of religious knowledge, correctly answering an average of 17.9 and 17.0 questions, respectively.

Hey Pew, why the weasel-phrase “self-described?” That fits all belief or lack thereof.

pewforum.org

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jaunte  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:50:40am

I think I know this one.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:51:00am
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Belafon  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:51:27am

re: #229 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Getting the definitions straight:

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I suspect Curtis also left out a not.

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mmmirele  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:54:16am

re: #225 Belafon

The problem is that Latinos aren’t playing along. To be counted as white, you have to do white people stuff: speak English all the time, be protestant, be racist against blacks. Latinos aren’t doing that stuff the way whites want.

I’d note that a significant minority of Latinos in the USA are not Catholic and have moved over to Evangelical and Pentecostal churches (mirroring similar shifts in Mexico, Central and South America). I don’t know if younger Latinos are mirroring their white counterparts and walking away from organized religion in general. But you get these weird combinations, like Marco Rubio attending a Charismatic church on Saturday night and Catholic mass on Sunday, or Jair Bolsonaro (the right-wing president of Brasil), who is Catholic but married to an Evangelical.

So yeah, not playing along in some ways, in other ways, following right behind.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:55:57am

re: #238 goddamnedfrank

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JFC

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:56:48am

re: #240 mmmirele

I’d note that a significant minority of Latinos in the USA are not Catholic and have moved over to Evangelical and Pentecostal churches (mirroring similar shifts in Mexico, Central and South America). I don’t know if younger Latinos are mirroring their white counterparts and walking away from organized religion in general. But you get these weird combinations, like Marco Rubio attending a Charismatic church on Saturday night and Catholic mass on Sunday, or Jair Bolsonaro (the right-wing president of Brasil), who is Catholic but married to an Evangelical.

So yeah, not playing along in some ways, in other ways, following right behind.

Trump’s few Latino allies are Evangelicals from what I have seen.

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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:57:12am

re: #237 jaunte

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I think I know this one.

Could the House hold hearings on Moscow Mitch threat to Obama? Have Obama testify under oath? It would get a lot of eyeballs and drive home that the Russians are a present danger. Sure they’ll blame Obama for Trump getting elected but hopefully they won’t get away with a Schrodinger’s Russian Meddling argument.

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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:58:26am

re: #239 Belafon

I suspect Curtis also left out a not.

That’s what I thought. Proofreading. It’s your friend.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 3, 2019 • 8:59:03am

Berlinger — come on — did you or anyone else at CNN ever truly believe that Trump had any real achievements?:
A month after G20, Trump’s Asia policy achievements appear to be unraveling

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:00:20am

re: #242 HappyWarrior

Trump’s few Latino allies are Evangelicals from what I have seen.

Which makes perfect sense considering how Trump rolls.

But I’m sure most Latinos aren’t too happy with Trump caging up others like them indefinitely.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:02:19am

re: #245 Hecuba’s daughter

Trumps Asian Policy Achievements pretty much amount to repeatedly kissing Kim-Jong-Uns ass and getting nothing in return while simultaneously pissing off South Korea and Japan.

Much achievement.
Great victories.

///

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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:03:04am

re: #245 Hecuba’s daughter

Berlinger — come on — did you or anyone else at CNN ever truly believe that Trump had any real achievements?:
A month after G20, Trump’s Asia policy achievements appear to be unraveling

Seeing some book lectures recently I’m leaning that today’s journalist are myopic (versus competent and under the thumb of corporate owners) You don’t get hired or promoted unless you can’t see what is right in front of you. Not ignore it, actually can’t see it.

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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:04:28am

re: #246 Eclectic Cyborg

Which makes perfect sense considering how Trump rolls.

But I’m sure most Latinos aren’t too happy with Trump caging up others like them indefinitely.

I’d like to think that, but I see a lot of people who are Jewish being ok with Nazis as an example. People are weird.

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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:05:32am

re: #247 Eclectic Cyborg

Trumps Asian Policy Achievements pretty much amount to repeatedly kissing Kim-Jong-Uns ass and getting nothing in return while simultaneously pissing off South Korea and Japan.

Much achievement.
Great victories.

///

Plus bringing China to its knees through easily won trade war. ///

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Teukka  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:06:34am

This floated by in my news streams:
Economics is a failing discipline doing great harm - so let’s rethink it.
Our global economy should serve rather than dominate people - and that includes factoring in the climate crisis, too, says the author and economist Andrew Simms.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:06:57am

re: #246 Eclectic Cyborg

Which makes perfect sense considering how Trump rolls.

But I’m sure most Latinos aren’t too happy with Trump caging up others like them indefinitely.

Or of his obvious racism.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:07:35am

re: #249 Old Liberal

I’d like to think that, but I see a lot of people who are Jewish being ok with Nazis as an example. People are weird.

A loud minority but yes. Don’t underestimate shared hatreds.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:07:41am

re: #249 Old Liberal

I’d like to think that, but I see a lot of people who are Jewish being ok with Nazis as an example. People are weird.

People who have to work three jobs to keep their families fed don’t follow the news.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:08:30am

re: #251 Teukka

This floated by in my news streams:
Economics is a failing discipline doing great harm - so let’s rethink it.
Our global economy should serve rather than dominate people - and that includes factoring in the climate crisis, too, says the author and economist Andrew Simms.

The problem is the rich are getting rich but the middle class aren’t growing with them.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:12:29am

re: #238 goddamnedfrank

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:13:43am

re: #249 Old Liberal

I’d like to think that, but I see a lot of people who are Jewish being ok with Nazis as an example. People are weird.

That is tied to the Netanyahu acolytes: he and his family are fine with Nazis because of their shared hatred of the Palestinians. If Netanyahu reversed course, so would most of these people. Wherever Netanyahu leads, they follow. As I’ve said before, think of Netanyahu as a high-IQ, knowledgeable Trump when it comes to governmental operation and personal finances.

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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:14:11am

The self made person is a dangerous breed. Because no one is self made. But when one believes they are self made, then those who have not made it must be lazy. For minority self made people, they achieve a form of acceptance from monied whites and then conclude that all minorities would be accepted if they just became self made persons. Sheriff Clark, Ben Carson, Kanye, etc are all examples of this. And it all derives from the myth of “I’m self-made and if I can do it anyone can. Those that don’t are deserving of maltreatment “.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:15:57am

re: #258 Old Liberal

The self made person is a dangerous breed. Because no one is self made. But when one believes they are self made, then those who have not made it must be lazy. For minority self made people, they achieve a form of acceptance from monied whites and then conclude that all minorities would be accepted if they just became self made persons. Sheriff Clark, Ben Carson, Kanye, etc are all examples of this. And it all derives from the myth of “I’m self-made and if I can do it anyone can. Those that don’t are deserving of maltreatment “.

Obama had it right. You didn’t do it alone. I’m indebted not just to parents but great teachers and professional mentors.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:17:16am

re: #244 Old Liberal

That’s what I thought. Proofreading. It’s your friend.

Spell checks and grammar checks are knot proofreading.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:20:27am

re: #258 Old Liberal

The self made person is a dangerous breed. Because no one is self made. But when one believes they are self made, then those who have not made it must be lazy. For minority self made people, they achieve a form of acceptance from monied whites and then conclude that all minorities would be accepted if they just became self made persons. Sheriff Clark, Ben Carson, Kanye, etc are all examples of this. And it all derives from the myth of “I’m self-made and if I can do it anyone can. Those that don’t are deserving of maltreatment “.

And don’t forget Clarence Thomas, who (IIRC) was contemptuous of his own sister being she was on welfare — because she was the one who had to sacrifice her life to help the family.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:21:02am

I posted this shot back at the time, 2015.

Today in the news I saw another view and a tragic one.

3 die when bluff collapses

Been there a bunch of times, never gave the bluff much thought. latimes.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:22:40am

re: #260 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Spell checks and grammar checks are knot proofreading.

Unfortunately, it’s too easy to see what you think you wrote rather than what you actually wrote. I cannot tell you the number of times in work emails that someone wrote “now” instead of “not” — completely reversing their intentions.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:22:50am

LOL.

My wife is doing counter-apologetics on YouTube, and says she picked up a Muslim apologist who thinks she’s a Christian and is attacking her positions on that assumption.

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garzooma  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:25:04am

re: #243 Old Liberal

Could the House hold hearings on Moscow Mitch threat to Obama? Have Obama testify under oath? It would get a lot of eyeballs and drive home that the Russians are a present danger. Sure they’ll blame Obama for Trump getting elected but hopefully they won’t get away with a Schrodinger’s Russian Meddling argument.

How has this not happened yet? They can invite McConnell, too. If Obama did in fact fail to address the Russian attacks as McConnell claims, that surely calls for hearings.

McConnell blamed Obama on the Senate floor — has any Democrat brought up McConnell’s acts in the same forum?

What Teddy’s Person said about Democrats needing candidates who can deal with the scorched-earth campaigns of all Republicans applies to all levels.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:27:08am

re: #261 Hecuba’s daughter

And don’t forget Clarence Thomas, who (IIRC) was contemptuous of his own sister being she was on welfare — because she was the one who had to sacrifice her life to help the family.

And Liz “Natives are ruining our Western way-of-life” Cheney publicly going after her sister Mary for her “lesbian lifestyle” on Facebook, then disowning her.

Even Dick Cheney wasn’t that heartless.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:29:04am

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹🎃

And Liz “Natives are ruining our Western way-of-life” Cheney publicly going after her sister Mary for her “lesbian lifestyle” on Facebook, then disowning her.

Even Dick Cheney wasn’t that heartless.

She’s an opportunist of the worst kind.

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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:38:36am

re: #265 garzooma

How has this not happened yet? They can invite McConnell, too. If Obama did in fact fail to address the Russian attacks as McConnell claims, that surely calls for hearings.

McConnell blamed Obama on the Senate floor — has any Democrat brought up McConnell’s acts in the same forum?

What Teddy’s Person said about Democrats needing candidates who can deal with the scorched-earth campaigns of all Republicans applies to all levels.

Yep, call Obama, Moscow Mitch, aides. Under oath. Intelligence directors.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:43:49am

Bronwen gets a whle lot of answers in that as to why so many “soldiers” do not like the phrase, and a link to his essay on that from a few weeks ago.

She came in that thread to realise why so many veterans and active duty do not like the phrase and apologised.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:43:50am

The fatal flaw in our economic system is that increased corporate wealth is predicated on an environment of sustained growth. If you can’t grow your business, it dies.

Of course, regardless of circumstances, growth cannot last forever so sooner or later the cows will come home to roost.

But when there’s less room for expansion, companies attempt to grow profits, by reducing costs which typically means layoffs, outsourcing, elimination of benefits and other employee perks, switching to cheaper supplies and other various methods of corner cutting or otherwise finding the cheapest way to get things done.

The company I worked at prior to my current job was a major corporation. Three years before I left we completed a merger with another corporation. After the merger, a good chunk of our pre-merger perks went bye bye, our insurance coverage became less comprehensive and we did endure two rounds of layoffs.

Of course the company executives made out like bandits after the merger closed so they gave no shits about it hurt us little guys.

When you have an economic model that, generally speaking, rewards extreme cost reduction above all else, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out the endgame. And that endgame, while it might on some levels be good for consumers (cheaper stuff), ultimately hurts everyone, especially workers.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:44:08am

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹🎃

And Liz “Natives are ruining our Western way-of-life” Cheney publicly going after her sister Mary for her “lesbian lifestyle” on Facebook, then disowning her.

Even Dick Cheney wasn’t that heartless.

I truly hate that CENSORED and just wait for the Karmic retribution she’s in for.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:44:59am

re: #269 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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Bronwen gets a whle lot of answers in that as to why so many “soldiers” do not like the phrase, and a link to his essay on that from a few weeks ago.

She came in that thread to realise why so many veterans and active duty do not like the phrase and apologised.

Wow. Was not expecting the twist ending. Good to hear.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:45:09am

re: #268 Old Liberal

Yep, call Obama, Moscow Mitch, aides. Under oath. Intelligence directors.

Mitch McConnell can refuse, but that would not look good. That would put him in a pickle on how to respond. Probably something like “witch hunt.”

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Teddy's Person  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:46:46am

re: #268 Old Liberal

Yep, call Obama, Moscow Mitch, aides. Under oath. Intelligence directors.

Then watch, a GOPer finally drops the n-bomb live on CSPAN. Deplorables cheer. (I wish this was a snarkier comment than reality suggests.)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:47:41am

re: #274 Teddy’s Person

Then watch, a GOPer finally drops the n-bomb live on CSPAN. Deplorables cheer. (I wish this was a snarkier comment than reality suggests.)

That’s coming.

I fully expect Trump to say the N word at his rallies and the crowd will orgasm.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:50:07am

re: #269 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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Bronwen gets a whle lot of answers in that as to why so many “soldiers” do not like the phrase, and a link to his essay on that from a few weeks ago.

She came in that thread to realise why so many veterans and active duty do not like the phrase and apologised.

My grandfather a Korean War vet I feel saw his service as only part of his life. He was a father, brother, husband, grandfather, uncle, son, & bricklayer and I think he felt that defined him. We got a flag when he died but his military service was just a small part of his character.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:50:49am

re: #275 Joe Bacon 🌹

That’s coming.

I fully expect Trump to say the N word at his rallies and the crowd will orgasm.

I honestly though it was going to be in Cincinnati. Not sure what drug cocktail they pumped into Trump to keep him from whipping the crowd into a frenzy because you know that what he wants - a lynch mob at his beckon call.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:53:54am

re: #277 Teddy’s Person

I honestly though it was going to be in Cincinnati. Not sure what drug cocktail they pumped into Trump to keep him from whipping the crowd into a frenzy because you know that what he wants - a lynch mob at his beckon call.

He already has a mob killing for him.

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Belafon  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:55:13am

re: #269 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:55:39am

re: #275 Joe Bacon 🌹

That’s coming.

I fully expect Trump to say the N word at his rallies and the crowd will orgasm.

There’s been a few things I really wanted to do but couldn’t. A few things I wasn’t allowed to do while others were allowed. But for some reason, using the n word was never one of the things i really wanted to do. Weird.

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mmmirele  Aug 3, 2019 • 9:59:04am

re: #270 Eclectic Cyborg

The company I worked at prior to my current job was a major corporation. Three years before I left we completed a merger with another corporation. After the merger, a good chunk of our pre-merger perks went bye bye, our insurance coverage became less comprehensive and we did endure two rounds of layoffs.

Of course the company executives made out like bandits after the merger closed so they gave no shits about it hurt us little guys.

When you have an economic model that, generally speaking, rewards extreme cost reduction above all else, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out the endgame. And that endgame, while it might on some levels be good for consumers (cheaper stuff), ultimately hurts everyone, especially workers.

My employer has figured out how it’s going to cut staff and it infuriates me. They’ve decided to basically cut out working from home, and consolidate the number of tech locations people can work out of. We have a lot of good people who don’t work near a tech hub and aren’t going to pick up and move to a tech hub. But the bank is quite willing to lose all these experienced (and thus, more expensive people) in its drive to cut costs. The bloodletting is going to be intense. This doesn’t affect me because I already work at a tech hub that also hosts thousands of servers in the next building.

But…we received a memo yesterday telling us that when we move into a new availability management center (on the other side of our building), we won’t be allowed to eat at our desks (or keep food at our desks, for that matter). I told the current manager of our site that was NOT ACCEPTABLE because I am diabetic. He told me to take it up with my manager (who lives in California and is not based out of a tech hub). I also am now in a position as a manager where production requirements can keep me from getting breaks and lunches. I don’t keep granola bars in my desk for fun. I keep them there because I might not be able to get away from my desk to get food. I will get HR involved if I have to. I’m not harming my health because someone doesn’t understand my metabolic needs and the needs of production support.

ETA: I am being compensated very well in this managerial position, and I am able to take off for a couple hours in the middle of the day if needed to go to doctor’s appointments or to that long, long lunch I had with an old manager a few weeks back. The flip side is I carry a phone with me and I’m backup on call if a disaster happens. The last disaster was in the news in February. mprnews.org

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:06:00am

re: #277 Teddy’s Person

I honestly though it was going to be in Cincinnati. Not sure what drug cocktail they pumped into Trump to keep him from whipping the crowd into a frenzy because you know that what he wants - a lynch mob at his beckon call.

He wants personal wealth, the respect of the NY elite, the adoration of the masses, and to be the center of attention. He hates Obama but that’s because Obama mocked him publicly at the 2011 WHCD. He has no real ideology and doesn’t care about any of the issues. He’s running the country like a reality show and that’s all he wants — a reality show that is not canceled for poor ratings.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:12:56am
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Teddy's Person  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:14:43am

re: #282 Hecuba’s daughter

He wants personal wealth, the respect of the NY elite, the adoration of the masses, and to be the center of attention. He hates Obama but that’s because Obama mocked him publicly at the 2011 WHCD. He has no real ideology and doesn’t care about any of the issues. He’s running the country like a reality show and that’s all he wants — a reality show that is not canceled for poor ratings.

Now, he wants the kind of power his buddies Vlad and Kim weild. Whipping his rally crowds into a frenzy makes him feel like he has that power as his administration tries to actually get the executive branch that power.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:15:48am

re: #283 Charles Johnson

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And at this point, it shouldn’t be hard for “journalists” to call him out on his lies because he tells the same ones over and over again.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:17:08am

re: #276 HappyWarrior

My grandfather a Korean War vet I feel saw his service as only part of his life. He was a father, brother, husband, grandfather, uncle, son, & bricklayer and I think he felt that defined him. We got a flag when he died but his military service was just a small part of his character.

Same here. My career only defines part of my life. I’m a father, brother, husband, former local politician, former president of the town Friends of the Library, current water operator for the village.

All my family was in the military. Some died in combat. None of that defines who any of them were or are.

There are businesses in Scottsbluff which offer military discounts. When I hand across my retired ID card, I expect things like “thankyewforyerservice” so I am not particularly upset by it; I initiated it.

But when I pull up for gasoline anywhere in the country and I get that for my Gold Star Family plates, I have to respond “that’s not my service, that’s my father’s.”

I was once dragged across the coals for those same plates in Regina, Saskatchewan by a bunch of drunks outside the Sandman Hotel where we were staying, calling me a baby-killer. My wife was appalled; I just held her hand tighter and headed back for the lobby (we were headed out of the hotel when this happened)—she’d never heard that before.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:17:34am

re: #285 Teddy’s Person

And at this point, it shouldn’t be hard for “journalists” to call him out on his lies because he tells the same ones over and over again.

These Presstitutes won’t because they’ve sold their asses lock stock and barrel to the Republican Party.

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Old Liberal  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:21:35am

re: #285 Teddy’s Person

And at this point, it shouldn’t be hard for “journalists” to call him out on his lies because he tells the same ones over and over again.

I agree but if they say “that’s a lie” spanky will just say “no its true, and the people who said it was a lie are fake news.” So about all the interviewer could do is say “well that was a lie, moving on now” and try to prevent spanky from contesting it. As we know the man is shameless.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:23:35am

re: #286 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Brings back memories of the four hard core Nixon supporters in my high school who got called up by the draft board…and their parents made sure that they had “extended visits” to Canada.

Meanwhile Mom drove me to my physical, all the way she kept saying she didn’t know why they wanted to draft me because I would be 4F. Sure enough when I was declared 4F because of a heart murmur and damaged right eardrum she then said “They wasted taxpayer money on this”.

I felt so CENSORED low as I slumped out the door.

Meanwhile the Four Nixon jockstraps stayed in Canada. One of them became a PC elected to the House of Commons. Didn’t surprise me at all…

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Teddy's Person  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:24:16am

re: #288 Old Liberal

I agree but if they say “that’s a lie” spanky will just say “no its true, and the people who said it was a lie are fake news.” So about all the interviewer could do is say “well that was a lie, moving on now” and try to prevent spanky from contesting it. As we know the man is shameless.

Trump is a whole new level of playing the ref for the GOP.

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jaunte  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:24:28am

re: #269 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Name a word, phrase, or figure of speech that you can’t stand.

“At the end of the day.”
Assumes a false finality.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:34:57am
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Teukka  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:35:48am

And here we go again…

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Charles Johnson  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:36:10am
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jaunte  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:36:11am

Between Kevin and Marianne, the Williamsons are not showing their best lately.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:39:08am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:40:29am

re: #292 Charles Johnson

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NRO is just the white citizens council to Trump’s red hats.

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BigPapa  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:44:50am

Hey hey we’re the Monkeys, and people say we monkey around

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DangerMan  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:47:46am

re: #269 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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Name a word, phrase, or figure of speech that you can’t stand..

So..to start a response
Perfect
Amazing
Awesome
Touch base
Incredible
All manner of superlatives
I mean… to start a response
Real quick
Trust me
Believe me
You when you mean “I”

(Yes. I keep a list)

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BigPapa  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:48:39am

Jerk off. Fling poo. Jerk. Fling. This is their story.

Real fucking Steinbeck here.

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DangerMan  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:56:41am

re: #291 jaunte

“At the end of the day.”
Assumes a false finality.

It is what it is
(Isn’t it always?)

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Belafon  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:57:35am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:59:51am

re: #292 Charles Johnson

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The first couple paragraphs describing the monkeys themselves aren’t terrible — and if he stopped at the sentence following “McDonalds”, it would have been ok. But then, as all good RW conservatives do, he descends into outright racism. We, as a nation, have to say that this is wrong and shame anyone who holds these views but it is frightening that this reflects the essence of tens of millions of Americans.

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mmmirele  Aug 3, 2019 • 10:59:55am

re: #289 Joe Bacon 🌹

Brings back memories of the four hard core Nixon supporters in my high school who got called up by the draft board…and their parents made sure that they had “extended visits” to Canada.

Meanwhile Mom drove me to my physical, all the way she kept saying she didn’t know why they wanted to draft me because I would be 4F. Sure enough when I was declared 4F because of a heart murmur and damaged right eardrum she then said “They wasted taxpayer money on this”.

I felt so CENSORED low as I slumped out the door.

Meanwhile the Four Nixon jockstraps stayed in Canada. One of them became a PC elected to the House of Commons. Didn’t surprise me at all…

The parents of one of my older friends had plans to send him to relatives in Canada if he drew a low draft number. He had a more direct plan. He was going to shoot himself in his foot. Thankfully, while he got a low draft number in the 1973 draft lottery, the draft was suspended. Instead, he went off to university, and then, in 1974, went off to South America on a Mormon mission for two years. My friend’s parents were, for Mormons, flaming liberals. The dad’s headstone has a United Farm Workers symbol on it, which I am sure, causes more than a few side eyes in the Murray, Utah, cemetery where he’s buried.

Another guy I knew, a college professor, told his draft board he was gay. That caused other problems, but he sure as hell wasn’t going to go to Vietnam and he’d weighed out the calculus of it and this was a slightly better choice in a world of bad choices. For us, nearly two decades later (we’re talking the 1980s, so political correctness, it did not exist), it was hilarious because this guy was a known womanizer.

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mmmirele  Aug 3, 2019 • 11:04:30am

re: #292 Charles Johnson

Tired of this bullshit. Seriously, folks, if you come across anti-abortion folks, ASK THEM how they plan on punishing women who get abortions. You could drop into the conversation that you know someone who pickets a church in Arizona that teaches children how executing women who have abortions is perfectly OK. Push back on this garbage. Thanks in advance!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 3, 2019 • 11:06:10am

“Name a word, phrase, or figure of speech that you can’t stand.”

- Game changer
- Revolutionary
- New and Improved (An item has to be one or the other, it can NOT be both!)
- “I’m not _______, but….”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 3, 2019 • 11:07:15am
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mmmirele  Aug 3, 2019 • 11:09:08am

re: #295 jaunte

Between Kevin and Marianne, the Williamsons are not showing their best lately.

Satan on a skateboard, the Marianne Williamson fanatics have made me change one thing. Bernie is no longer on my NEVER WILL VOTE FOR, EVER, EVER, EVER list. Instead, he’s at the bottom of the OH GOD I HOPE HE’S NOT THE CHOICE BECAUSE I’D HAVE TO VOTE FOR HIM list. The Marianne fanatics, they do not like having it pointed out by the likes of me that Marianne is anti-psychiatric medications, has used Scientology literature to back that up in the recent past, is an anti-vaxxer and a Noo Wage guru with a shady past from the AIDS epidemic in LA. You’d be *amazed* at the wootastic people who come into my mentions and go off on my fact-laden remarks.

* On my NEVER WILL VOTE FOR, EVER, EVER, EVER LIST (incomplete)
-Williamson
-Delaney
-Gabbard

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DangerMan  Aug 3, 2019 • 11:11:22am

re: #306 Eclectic Cyborg

“Name a word, phrase, or figure of speech that you can’t stand.”

- Game changer
- Revolutionary
- New and Improved (An item has to be one or the other, it can NOT be both!)
- “I’m not _______, but….”

“But” is the great negator
If you can’t substitute “and” then you’re denying everything you just said.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 3, 2019 • 11:11:30am

“Name a word, phrase, or figure of speech that you can’t stand.”
We wanted to give you a challenge. I hate that.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 3, 2019 • 11:18:10am

Steve Lookner is on the El Paso shooting story.

youtube.com

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William Lewis  Aug 3, 2019 • 11:18:25am

re: #305 mmmirele

There is a great story by Nadia Bolz Webber about putting an antiabortion guy - cause its always a guy - in his place. I need to memorize what she wrote.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 3, 2019 • 11:22:23am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 3, 2019 • 11:22:31am

re: #308 mmmirele

Satan on a skateboard, the Marianne Williamson fanatics have made me change one thing. Bernie is no longer on my NEVER WILL VOTE FOR, EVER, EVER, EVER list. Instead, he’s at the bottom of the OH GOD I HOPE HE’S NOT THE CHOICE BECAUSE I’D HAVE TO VOTE FOR HIM list. The Marianne fanatics, they do not like having it pointed out by the likes of me that Marianne is anti-psychiatric medications, has used Scientology literature to back that up in the recent past, is an anti-vaxxer and a Noo Wage guru with a shady past from the AIDS epidemic in LA. You’d be *amazed* at the wootastic people who come into my mentions and go off on my fact-laden remarks.

* On my NEVER WILL VOTE FOR, EVER, EVER, EVER LIST (incomplete)
-Williamson
-Delaney
-Gabbard

I know first hand how Pulpit Pimp Marianne fleeced AIDS sufferers for every last penny she could get from them. She has absolutely NO SCRUPLES. What killed me when she ran for Congress is how every Daily Kos group member in Los Angeles worked for her EXCEPT ME. I walked out on her when she started her shit at the LA Kossacs meeting.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 3, 2019 • 11:24:37am

re: #310 PhillyPretzel

“Name a word, phrase, or figure of speech that you can’t stand.”
We wanted to give you a challenge. I hate that.

“It is what it is”

A zero calorie non-thought at best and more often just a declaration of ethical abdication and cynical fatalism. Always better to say nothing.

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jeffreyw  Aug 3, 2019 • 11:51:52am

re: #269 Anymouse 🌹🎃

very unique

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 3, 2019 • 12:14:29pm

re: #306 Eclectic Cyborg

“Name a word, phrase, or figure of speech that you can’t stand.”

- Game changer
- Revolutionary
- New and Improved (An item has to be one or the other, it can NOT be both!)
- “I’m not _______, but….”

Creative disruption


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