A Big and Necessary Step: Cloudflare Terminates Service for 8Chan

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Let me open by saying I’m still very skeptical about their rationale for taking so long to do this: Terminating Service for 8Chan.

8chan is among the more than 19 million Internet properties that use Cloudflare’s service. We just sent notice that we are terminating 8chan as a customer effective at midnight tonight Pacific Time. The rationale is simple: they have proven themselves to be lawless and that lawlessness has caused multiple tragic deaths. Even if 8chan may not have violated the letter of the law in refusing to moderate their hate-filled community, they have created an environment that revels in violating its spirit.

We do not take this decision lightly. Cloudflare is a network provider. In pursuit of our goal of helping build a better internet, we’ve considered it important to provide our security services broadly to make sure as many users as possible are secure, and thereby making cyberattacks less attractive — regardless of the content of those websites. Many of our customers run platforms of their own on top of our network. If our policies are more conservative than theirs it effectively undercuts their ability to run their services and set their own policies. We reluctantly tolerate content that we find reprehensible, but we draw the line at platforms that have demonstrated they directly inspire tragic events and are lawless by design. 8chan has crossed that line. It will therefore no longer be allowed to use our services.

One of the most important reasons hate sites like 8chan have grown and flourished is because of the tacit support they’ve gotten from companies like Cloudflare.

And I’m less than impressed that it takes a mass murder anyone could have seen coming to get them to act. But this is where we’re at. Huge tech companies that dominate the internet refuse to take any responsibility for what they’re enabling, until they’re forced into it.

Bottom line, though — this is only temporary, because 8chan still has DNS hosting services, and there are lots of alternatives to Cloudflare that will let them get back online, probably within days if they work at it, which they will because enabling hatred is apparently profitable.

So this is not over.

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1
Ace Rothstein  Aug 4, 2019 • 7:55:48pm

Good.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 4, 2019 • 7:58:58pm

Any wine lovers out there, I highly recommend sommtv.com If you saw the three documentaries, you’ll get what I’m talking about. High-quality content.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:04:55pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:05:02pm

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:06:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:07:50pm

re: #5 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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If I’m Cornyn and Trump, I’m shitting bricks.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:07:52pm

re: #5 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Let the brick shitting commence!

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:08:10pm

re: #2 Ace Rothstein

Any wine lovers out there, I highly recommend sommtv.com If you saw the three documentaries, you’ll get what I’m talking about. High-quality content.

Have they staked a position on boxed chablis?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:08:19pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

If I’m Cornyn and Trump, I’m shitting bricks.

Two seconds, dude.

:P

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:08:43pm

re: #5 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

As a native Texan, I’m very happy about these retirements.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:09:20pm

re: #8 Decatur Deb

Too early to judge, lol.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:09:50pm

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

Two seconds, dude.

:P

GTMA

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:10:23pm

re: #10 Ace Rothstein

As a native Texan, I’m very happy about these retirements.

I am too. The GOP is fucked if Texas is competitive

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BigPapa  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:11:08pm

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Let the brick shitting commence!

Bring forth ye bricks of shyte, glorious in girth and with great vengeance

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Belafon  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:11:42pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

I am too. The GOP is fucked if Texas is competitive

If the GOP has to start throwing money at Texas, it’s going to really screw them over.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:12:16pm

re: #5 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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BigPapa  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:12:48pm

So they’re not even going to finish their terms out? What chumps. I’m glad they’re out, but that’s very chumpy.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:14:19pm

He has a friend still on the loose (opinion)

“… The complaint said Buhler said he was buying .223 caliber rifle ammunition because “he knows that cops wear bulletproof vests.” Authorities allege he had visited other Walmart stores to buy ammunition, knives, and small-cylinder propane bottles as well as a two-way radio and binoculars. …”

More in the article, including prior weapons offenses in NJ

“… The criminal complaint also notes that Buhler was arrested in April in Flemington, New Jersey, on weapons offenses, in connection with the possession of assault-type weapons, rifles, handguns, large-capacity magazines, and prohibited ammunition. The status of that case was unclear. …”

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danarchy  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:14:50pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

GTMA

do great minds also flip the letters in their initialisms ;)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:15:26pm

re: #19 danarchy

do great minds also flip the letters in their initialisms ;)

Great minds get tired too.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:18:41pm

re: #18 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

He has a friend still on the loose (opinion)

More in the article, including prior weapons offenses in NJ

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There was a similar case today in Lubbock TX. Kid’s grandmother talked him into voluntary hospitalization, Feds collected his arsenal.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:21:01pm

re: #21 Decatur Deb

There was a similar case today in Lubbock TX. Kid’s grandmother talked him into voluntary hospitalization, Feds collected his arsenal.

Sent the story to JJ MacNab, maybe she’ll dig into it

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Charles Johnson  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:23:12pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:26:11pm
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Ace Rothstein  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:26:16pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

No.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:26:32pm

re: #24 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“Seem,” lol.

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danarchy  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:28:09pm

re: #18 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

He has a friend still on the loose (opinion)

More in the article, including prior weapons offenses in NJ

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Possible he was trying to use the radios as a triggering device for propane bombs. Not a very stable trigger mind you.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:28:43pm

The first line of the article by our esteemed host Mr. Johnson:

Let me open by saying I’m still very skeptical about their rationale for taking so long to do this:

I’m not ($$$)

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Charles Johnson  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:30:28pm

Luntz

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Dave In Austin  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:32:18pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Tell ya what. I’m working all nite anyway but Morning Joe will be priceless tomorrow.

I don’t want to miss this one for nothing.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:32:27pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:35:03pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:37:42pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Luntz

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What in the past two years leads Frank to believe the Trump can make any sort of negative comment or condemnation about white nationalism that will be in any way sincere or not immediately contradicted?

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BigPapa  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:42:37pm

“Members of the press, what the fuck?”

Well done Beto.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:43:59pm

re: #31 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:44:06pm

re: #34 BigPapa

He said that?

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Targetpractice  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:44:13pm

I expect Trump’s gonna try to follow Kellywise’s example of saying that this is a time for “unity” and there shouldn’t be finger pointing or accusations.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:45:01pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Luntz

What a Dumpster fire of wingnuts in that thread. Multiple people quoting Sebastian Gorka as evidence the El Paso mass-murderer was a “progressive leftist.”

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Charles Johnson  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:46:21pm
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Belafon  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:46:51pm

re: #36 Ace Rothstein

He said that?

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Targetpractice  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:47:01pm

re: #35 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Considering this…

“I’m going to stop you right there,” the Fox News host asserted. “We are not going to speculate what is in the manifesto. The police wouldn’t then the FBI wouldn’t and then we are not going to be there.”

Vittert also pointed out that Fox News is not repeating the name of the shooter.

“I appreciate you adhering to this,” he explained. “We’re not going to mention his name either out of respect for the victims.”

I wouldn’t bet on Faux bravely taking a stand.

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Targetpractice  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:48:25pm

re: #40 Belafon

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Fuckin’ A!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:48:43pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

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Charles, I have to get up at 5 tomorrow to get ready for work. I know the minute I start my phone I’ll see the latest set of Trump tantrums.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:49:56pm

re: #40 Belafon

About fucking time.

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Belafon  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:51:02pm

re: #41 Targetpractice

Considering this…

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I wouldn’t bet on Faux bravely taking a stand.

I think Fox should be required to mention his name. Their stance is really there just to give them the ability to gloss over that he’s white. Even money on them flashing images of drug cartel members when talking about the shooting to get people to think the shooter wasn’t white.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:52:31pm

re: #37 Targetpractice

I’m expecting something more like “What happened to those victims is NOTHING compared to how unfairly I’ve been treated!!!”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 4, 2019 • 8:52:35pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 4, 2019 • 9:05:04pm

7 Wounded In Douglas Park Shooting (Goes to CBS channel 2 in Chicago)

CHICAGO (CBS) — At least 7 people were shot while standing in Douglas Park in the North Lawndale neighborhood.

Around 1:20 a.m., the victims were standing in the park in the 2900 block of West Roosevelt Road in the park when someone fired shots from a black Camaro, according to Chicago Police.

Police Supt. Eddie Johnson said several of the victims returned fire, and multiple types of ballistics were found at the scene.

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This was one of three shootings that took place overnight Sunday in the Lawndale area. In a separate shooting, at 18th and Keeler Avenue Sunday around 3:40 a.m., police said eight men were shot and one of them died at the scene.

About an hour and a half before that, two women were shot in the 1200 block of South Troy Street, police Supt. Eddie Johnson said. The women suffered non-life-threatening injuries, and police were working to find out more details about what happened.

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Targetpractice  Aug 4, 2019 • 9:05:29pm

re: #46 Ace Rothstein

I’m expecting something more like “What happened to those victims is NOTHING compared to how unfairly I’ve been treated!!!”

You know, I really can imagine him sitting around today, getting angrier and angrier with each news story and interview, with only a token defense really being offered for him. He’s gotta be absolutely livid right now with the media, convinced that they’re all in a conspiracy to destroy him.

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 4, 2019 • 9:05:46pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

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As a former reader of Roger and Glenn’s blogs from before the creation of that site, I agree with you.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 4, 2019 • 9:08:02pm

re: #5 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

It’s looking more and more like rats fleeing the sinking ship.

Off to work - gotta pay the bills.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 4, 2019 • 9:10:15pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

You know, I really can imagine him sitting around today, getting angrier and angrier with each news story and interview, with only a token defense really being offered for him. He’s gotta be absolutely livid right now with the media, convinced that they’re all in a conspiracy to destroy him.

So, Nixon then.

Paranoia will bring him down sooner than later. If he gets bad enough he might turn on his own children or wife.

As for them, they don’t give a crap about Trump except what they can get out of him. Any halfway compassionate family member would try to intervene somehow; they’re still promoting this tyre fire.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 4, 2019 • 9:11:38pm

But remember, the MSM doesn’t report on Chicago gun violence because it goes against the “libtard” narrative

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Charles Johnson  Aug 4, 2019 • 9:15:06pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 4, 2019 • 9:24:00pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 4, 2019 • 9:34:19pm

Let’s see what’s on the Bingo card for Trumps statement tomorrow:

- Blames Democrats for shootings
- “Fake News”
- Mental illness
- Thoughts and Prayers
- Says fuck all about White nationalism
- Fellates Law Enforcement / First responders
- “Many people are saying.”
- Trashes Beto.
- MOAR GUNZ!
- Finds some way to make this all about himself.
- Accuses Democrats of doing nothing to fix the problem.
- Parrots Fox News talking points

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William Lewis  Aug 4, 2019 • 9:36:14pm

Fuck. Still more stupid killing.

Bourbon, beer & the Foo Fighters covering a Ramones ballad. That’s what I need tonight.

Foo Fighters - Danny Says

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Dread Pirate  Aug 4, 2019 • 9:41:53pm

Americans are savages. They shouldn’t be allowed to travel outside their country.

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Targetpractice  Aug 4, 2019 • 9:45:51pm

re: #56 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s see what’s on the Bingo card for Trumps statement tomorrow:

- Blames Democrats for shootings
- “Fake News”
- Mental illness
- Thoughts and Prayers
- Says fuck all about White nationalism
- Fellates Law Enforcement / First responders
- “Many people are saying.”
- Trashes Beto.
- MOAR GUNZ!
- Finds some way to make this all about himself.
- Accuses Democrats of doing nothing to fix the problem.
- Parrots Fox News talking points

Don’t forget:

- “Nobody talked about (blank) until…”
- Promise that he’s “working on a bill” to address the problem
- “Democrats want to abolish the 2nd amendment…”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 4, 2019 • 9:48:36pm

Wholly crap there are a lot of crazy people in that thread.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 4, 2019 • 9:50:43pm

re: #60 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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Wholly crap there are a lot of crazy people in that thread.

I wouldn’t waste any time looking at that thread because I can guess just how sick those freaks are.

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Targetpractice  Aug 4, 2019 • 9:55:29pm

re: #60 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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Wholly crap there are a lot of crazy people in that thread.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 4, 2019 • 9:57:38pm

Foreign markets and futures are down. Trump’s shit is hitting the fan.

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Kilroy was here  Aug 4, 2019 • 10:03:29pm

Elizabeth Warren hammers ‘hate-for-profit’ Fox News after shootings

We need to call it out: Fox News is a hate-for-profit machine that gives a megaphone to racists and conspiracists.’

marketwatch.com

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 4, 2019 • 10:11:30pm

re: #64 Kilroy was here

Three comments in that thread, about as hateful as the 8ch tweet above.

I gotta quit looking at comments. There’s a good reason Wonkette doesn’t allow them.

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Targetpractice  Aug 4, 2019 • 10:14:29pm

re: #63 Dread Pirate

Foreign markets and futures are down. Trump’s shit is hitting the fan.

Which shit? I assume the latest round of tariff threats, but you gotta be specific these days because Donny has the verbal equivalent of anal leakage.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 4, 2019 • 10:16:08pm
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Dread Pirate  Aug 4, 2019 • 10:18:41pm

Anybody got a match, lighter?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 4, 2019 • 10:21:03pm

Two thunderstorms coming toward town down US-26 and growing as they approach.

The lights flickered here a couple times.

wunderground.com

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Targetpractice  Aug 4, 2019 • 10:23:21pm

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Two thunderstorms coming toward town down US-26 and growing as they approach.

The lights flickered here a couple times.

wunderground.com

We had a severe thunderstorm pop up around 5PM EST, on the day that the weathermen had assured us right up til the day prior would be or at least seen nothing more than light rain. Ended up knocking out power in my neighborhood for 3 hours, which sucked because we’d just started cooking dinner.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 4, 2019 • 10:26:18pm

‘This is never funny’: Sheriff’s office says threat to Gibsonton Walmart not credible -WFLA
Deputies make arrest after Gibsonton Walmart evacuated due to threat - FOX13

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 4, 2019 • 10:27:10pm

re: #68 Dread Pirate

Anybody got a match, lighter?

I wasn’t aware they are sweaters.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 4, 2019 • 10:35:48pm

A hashtag of Nazi Mormons (really)

twitter.com

DezNat stands for Deseret Nationalists.

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William Lewis  Aug 4, 2019 • 10:38:00pm

re: #73 Anymouse 🌹🎃

A hashtag of Nazi Mormons (really)

twitter.com

DezNat stands for Deseret Nationalists.

Ohhh kay.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 4, 2019 • 10:48:56pm

And,,, of course it’s Gateway Pundit in the middle of it

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William Lewis  Aug 4, 2019 • 10:53:38pm

Once upon a time there was a great unknown band named The Boomtown Rats.

They mad a bit of a splash here by commenting on an early mass shooting in thier song “I don’t Like Mondays”.

Outside of that heresy, they talked about the usual Punk things.

Here is a live cut showing what I knew then - these were the shit.

Boomtown Rats - Rat Trap (Live at Hammersmith Odeon 1978)

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Citizen K  Aug 4, 2019 • 10:55:34pm
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mmmirele  Aug 4, 2019 • 10:58:52pm

re: #73 Anymouse 🌹🎃

A hashtag of Nazi Mormons (really)

twitter.com

DezNat stands for Deseret Nationalists.

This is charming. /sarc I live in a heavily Mormon community. I looked at those tweets and they made me sick.

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Targetpractice  Aug 4, 2019 • 11:01:39pm

re: #77 Citizen K

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Bernie seems to have realized he’s lost the progressive and minority vote, is going on all in on the white vote in the hope that he can peel off support from Biden to get him at least to the convention.

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William Lewis  Aug 4, 2019 • 11:02:33pm

re: #77 Citizen K

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Well, that little old shit just confirmed what I have been saying for ~18 months I’d guess about his personal racism. Fuck you Bernie and may the DSA also tell you to go to back to hell.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 4, 2019 • 11:06:57pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 4, 2019 • 11:07:16pm

Tropical Depression Flossie expected to arrive at the Big Island tomorrow, then rake across the rest of Hawai’i as a post-tropical depression.

nhc.noaa.gov

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William Lewis  Aug 4, 2019 • 11:09:04pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

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I pray this is our Joseph N. Welch moment. It’s all that stand between us and civil war.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 4, 2019 • 11:10:18pm

Now we’re getting hail … a bunch of storms have combined stretching across the county in one giant line.

Too much rain and the Beerline Canal will flood. It is still full to the banks and could flood our street and house if it overflows.

Torrington, Wyo. and Sterling, Colo. are getting trampled again.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 4, 2019 • 11:16:29pm

To the west of Torrington along the North Platte River stretching to an area north of Scottsbluff, isolated areas have gotten as much as six inches of rain from this system.

All of that is moving our way.

We’ve received about 0.7 inches.


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