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Ok, so I pulled up 8chan for S&G and about died laughing. All caps mind…
“Orange Jew to Deliver Gun Control Speech Tomorrow.” on their /pol channel so he probably was stupid enough to actually mean it!
I about soiled myself I was laughing so hard. I mean, even by 8chan standards of shit posting, that’s beyond stupidly unbelievable. With that laugh, it’s time to drop the curtain on those morons and call it a night.
The wingnut publisher of my regional newspaper is at it again in an editorial.
RICH MACKE: Baltimore Sun editorial, blatantly irresponsible (Goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald opinion page):
After reading the editorial which ran in the Baltimore Sun last weekend, I just sat and shook my head.
Although I agree with the editorial that the comments President Trump made last week toward the city of Baltimore and its citizens were wrong, the editorial printed in the Baltimore Sun on the 27th was just as bad, if not worse. A copy of this editorial is also printed on the Star-Herald Opinion page for those who have not seen it.
The newspaper industry fights enough accusations of being biased without publishing personal attacks that are borderline libelous. This was completely irresponsible by the Baltimore Sun and does not do our industry, or our nation, any good.
Hey, Mr. Mack, about personal attacks that are borderline libelous… .
re: #2 Anymouse 🌹🎃
He then goes on with a baffling array of statistics which are Duane Gish-worthy. The column would be impossible to refute in the number of words (four hundred) that the Letters to the Editor allows.
This is Ohio State Representative Candice Keller, a shining example of today’s @ohiogop.
She has a few opinions about mass shootings.
Let’s make her famous. pic.twitter.com/uUBowqUQWB— Brett Pransky (@BrettPransky) August 5, 2019
re: #4 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Gish Gallops seem to be the thing today.
All that disrespect she talks about? Yeah, that’s all projection. Had to get an Obama in there. Surprised she didn’t strawman socialism. She’s falling off her GOP game there.
What an astonishingly gross for McDaniel to say. El Paso is O’Rourke’s home town and the congressional district he represented.
In a society with any sense of decency, a GOP chairwoman would resign over making a comment like this. https://t.co/1sspMLbTWn— Susan Hennessey (@Susan_Hennessey) August 4, 2019
re: #4 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
She’s locked her account.
— Heather D. Feckful Waters (@_HeatherDWaters) August 5, 2019
Another Republican snowflake. Also, ignoring the courts seems to be a thing with Republican officials who don’t want to interact with their constituents (because again, snowflake).
She could just ignore her office telephone like most Republicans.
re: #4 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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I only ever notice this “breakdown of the moral fabric of society” BS is only spouted by wingnuts when it’s a white gunman they want to make excuses for.
When a black man is involved, suddenly it’s an indictment of the entire black community, for which we get the “Pound Cake speech” and endless recitations of Dr. King snippets totally divorced from their original context.
Hispanic? The automatic assumption that they must be “illegal” and thus a symbol of the need for a “strong border” and “tough laws.”
And if he’s Arabic, then get ready for a long lecture about the “evils” of Islam and how every single follower is either a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer.
But a white guy? No, it’s not the gunman, it’s society to blame, which means it’s “liberals” to blame.
re: #1 William Lewis
Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site.
8ch is gone. Cloudflare actually followed through.
Now the thing for boycotters to do is to follow where they go next, as was done with Daily Stormer.
That contemptible fraud Bernie Sanders never has a good word for Democrats, but he’ll throw himself on a grenade for Putin’s other puppet: “Look, I am sure that President Trump does not want anybody in this country to go around shooting other people.” https://t.co/T7zGNy8V3n
— Kat 4 Obama (@Kat4Obama) August 5, 2019
Police say at least four people were injured in an early morning shooting in Brooklyn on Monday. https://t.co/qZxJQrgt91
— NBC New York (@NBCNewYork) August 5, 2019
re: #11 Patricia Kayden
This is a disease. The answer to everything has become shooting a gun. We need federal standards for gun ownership, and a gun buyback program that’s monitored to ensure those weapons stay out of human hands. Melt the motherfuckers down and make them into something that doesn’t slaughter people. I’m kinda pro life like that. And then, if you have a large cache of weapons and ammo and the like, sorry, you can’t have it anymore. And you don’t get to have bombs and chemicals and rocket launchers either. No. Find something else to do. Preferably something fun and productive that doesn’t involve weapons. Or hurting people or critters.
re: #8 Targetpractice
I only ever notice this “breakdown of the moral fabric of society” BS is only spouted by wingnuts when it’s a white gunman they want to make excuses for.
When a black man is involved, suddenly it’s an indictment of the entire black community, for which we get the “Pound Cake speech” and endless recitations of Dr. King snippets totally divorced from their original context.
Hispanic? The automatic assumption that they must be “illegal” and thus a symbol of the need for a “strong border” and “tough laws.”
And if he’s Arabic, then get ready for a long lecture about the “evils” of Islam and how every single follower is either a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer.
But a white guy? No, it’s not the gunman, it’s society to blame, which means it’s “liberals” to blame.
Exactly. And man it is infuriating seeing people blame everything but easy access to guns as to why these occur.
re: #10 Patricia Kayden
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This is an issue he can’t blame on banks and Wall Street so of course.
re: #14 HappyWarrior
I wish Democrats would tell him to go piss up a rope. Tulsi too. She’s Jill Stein 2.0 plus Assad. Neither one of them are actually Democrats , let them form their own damned party. Or just join the GOP and be over it. Ratfuckers.
re: #15 A Mom Anon
I wish Democrats would tell him to go piss up a rope. Tulsi too. She’s Jill Stein 2.0 plus Assad. Neither one of them are actually Democrats , let them form their own damned party. Or just join the GOP and be over it. Ratfuckers.
They’re both so awful.
OK, correct me if I’m wrong, but if I’m understanding this “#370Gone”/”#Article370Revoked” business correctly, Modhi just had his captive parliament declare India to be a unitary HINDU ethnostate. I…THINK this is bad, and not just for Muslims in Kashmir but Catholics in Goa?
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) August 5, 2019
At least this being dropped in the wee hours has the excuse of “actually” happening in the early evening?
re: #17 Chrysicat
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At least this being dropped in the wee hours has the excuse of “actually” happening in the early evening?
It’s not good. I swear we are repeating the first half of the last century.
This is obscene
This is not entirely new. Trump expressed support for background checks after Parkland. What is new would be tying it to immigration reform as a condition. https://t.co/e4TghySQK9
— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) August 5, 2019
The president proposes “marrying” background checks with immigration reform after a white domestic terrorist opens fire on an unarmed Hispanic group, an illustration of how he relies on the political support of those who adhere to the shooter’s ideology, if not his methods https://t.co/PQj9bR46aI
— Patrick Tucker (@DefTechPat) August 5, 2019
No mention of white nationalists. Instead, a biting attack on the media. https://t.co/9AarCs67zH
— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) August 5, 2019
re: #19 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
This is obscene
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Fake news. Oh like yourself. Like Fox and Breitbart.
re: #21 HappyWarrior
Trump is the opposite of the Buck stops here.
Responsibility stops elsewhere. The buck (Monetary version) heads directly for his wallet.
Give me softball media coverage or my followers will keep slaughtering people? pic.twitter.com/gkoQk3vnsF
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) August 5, 2019
Sentencing for the Trump superfan convicted for sending mail bombs, including to CNN, is today. https://t.co/juL8jDmVVC
— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) August 5, 2019
The media has contributed absolutely but it’s not CNN or MSNBC. It’s Trump’s Friends.
re: #22 Feline Fearless Leader
Responsibility stops elsewhere. The buck (Monetary version) heads directly for his wallet.
I hate this corrupt bastard so much.
I’m speechless.
This is a Republican state Senator from Nebraska.
Thank you @SenMcCollister https://t.co/T5deZ1asVR— Jon Cryer (@MrJonCryer) August 5, 2019
Now there’s a major attempt to say the MSM is lying about Trump’s support for white supremicists, calling it the “Charlottesville Lie.” I think it’s being pushed by Prager U on youtube and twitter.
China fires a broadside at Trump in the escalating trade war:
U.S. stock futures were sliding Monday, following sharp declines in Asia, as China hit back at Donald Trump’s move to accelerate tariffs on China-made goods by allowing the yuan to slip to the lowest levels against the dollar in more than a decade.
The People’s Bank of China, the country’s central bank, let the so-called on-shore yuan fall past the psychologically important threshold of 7 in early Monday trading, citing in a statement “unilateralism and protectionism,’ as well as the expectation of additional tariffs from the United States. The breach through 7, the first since May 2008, weakens the Chinese currency in international markets and theoretically makes exports more attractive by offsetting the impact of tariffs.
China’s decision to allow the yuan to weaken to such a degree, while simultaneously instructing state-owned companies to suspend purchases of U.S. agricultural products, rattled markets as investors braced for a reaction from the White House that could trigger even more protectionist measures on trade between the world’s two biggest economies.
#WhiteSupremacistInChief was trending. Twitter, for a change, didn’t disappoint in what it served up. Check out who its algorithm brings up for “people”. #ILaughSoAsNotToCry pic.twitter.com/4PzOB4omJw
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) August 5, 2019
re: #29 Barefoot Grin
Now there’s a major attempt to say the MSM is lying about Trump’s support for white supremicists, calling it the “Charlottesville Lie.” I think it’s being pushed by Prager U on youtube and twitter.
Fucking PragerU.
re: #4 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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oh christ. futures are down 350 fucking points this morning. i don’t have the patience to worry about drag queen advocates.
re: #33 steve_davis
oh christ. futures are down 350 fucking points this morning. i don’t have the patience to worry about drag queen advocates.
See my #30 - looks like the trade war between China and the US is heating up.
So Trump not only says he’ll only agree to universal background checks if Miller’s fantasy wish list (aka “immigration reform”) is approved, but he’s blaming the media for the outbreak of white supremacist terrorism since he took office.
Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.
re: #35 Targetpractice
So Trump not only says he’ll only agree to universal background checks if Miller’s fantasy wish list (aka “immigration reform”) is approved, but he’s blaming the media for the outbreak of white supremacist terrorism since he took office.
Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.
Yep fuck this.
He’s holding background checks hostage. Just like when he held children for ransom last summerhttps://t.co/g0eEO1oNKI
— 𝘞𝘉 𝘠𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘨 🍕🐀 (@FormerDirtDart) August 5, 2019
re: #32 HappyWarrior
Fucking PragerU.
Dennis Prager is a Nazi.
Anyone who heard his racist rants on KABC knows that to be true.
re: #37 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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With the GOP as willing accomplices. Don’t be surprised if this “compromise” gets eagerly taken up by Congressional Republicans.
re: #7 Anymouse 🌹🎃
re: #33 steve_davis
oh christ. futures are down 350 fucking points this morning. i don’t have the patience to worry about drag queen advocates.
SRSLY: Just a thought: how many of these mass shooters have been raised in homes with two (even just gay) parents, never mind “drag queens”??
I’ll patiently wait for the evidence…..
And Tom Brokaw chimes in with the Both Sides Do It bullshit.
Did I expect anything else from this has been Presstitute?
Nope.
re: #42 Joe Bacon 🌹
And Tom Brokaw chimes in with the Both Sides Do It bullshit.
Did I expect anything else from this has been Presstitute?
Nope.
I forget Tom, when did Obama and Democrats try to imply conservatives weren’t Americans or deserving of violence.
He tripped over his spine, as he was backing away from his responsibility as an elected official
— 𝘞𝘉 𝘠𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘨 🍕🐀 (@FormerDirtDart) August 5, 2019
re: #42 Joe Bacon 🌹
And Tom Brokaw chimes in with the Both Sides Do It bullshit.
Did I expect anything else from this has been Presstitute?
Nope.
Let me guess, the “other side” is that Democrats (rightly) point out that Trump and his supporters are racists and/or racist-curious, which is supposed to be the same as screaming that all “illegals” are rapists and murderers who are “invading” America?
Goddammit. Now we can’t even respect Tom Brokaw.
Your racist rationalization is Bs. Your moral bankruptcy is Bs. Your false equivelency is Bs. You 👏🏻 Are 👏🏻 B 👏🏻 S 👏🏻
— Melisia (@melisianyc) August 5, 2019
Not anymore he isn’t. He just BASB’d. And we all know that too many people see the invisible “SVR” on the end of that. The CHARITABLE explanation is that instead he literally said there are still good people on both sides.
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) August 5, 2019
There is a center but it’s not who Brokaw thinks.
Show us ONE example where Obama incited people to hate.
Show us ONE example where Obama whipped up crowds to chant to lock somebody up.
You can’t.
But you will continue to lie any lie for the Republican Party.— The 3-D Zanti Regent (@josephebacon) August 5, 2019
re: #7 Anymouse 🌹🎃
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Another Republican snowflake. Also, ignoring the courts seems to be a thing with Republican officials who don’t want to interact with their constituents (because again, snowflake).
She could just ignore her office telephone like most Republicans.
This is Ohio State Representative Candice Keller, a shining example of today’s @ohiogop.She has a few opinions about mass shootings.Let’s make her famous. pic.twitter.com/uUBowqUQWB
— Brett Pransky (@BrettPransky) August 5, 2019
Gee, Ms. Keller, there must be a total absence of gay agitators, marijuana, divorce, or general godlessness and heathen pop culture in other advanced countries because they don’t seem to have these massacres on a daily basis. New Zealand had one a while back but they seem to have cleaned up their act. Did the Southern Baptist Convention take the place over or what?
re: #52 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Gee, Ms. Pransky, there must be a total absence of gay agitators, marijuana, divorce, or general godlessness and heathen pop culture in other advanced countries because they don’t seem to have these massacres on a daily basis. New Zealand had one a while back but they seem to have cleaned up their act. Did the Southern Baptist Convention take the place over or what?
Ms. Keller,, sweetie.
Pransky’s the guy who brought here to our attention and then warned us she’d fLocked her Twitter.
re: #54 Chrysicat
Ms. Keller,, sweetie.
Pransky’s the guy who brought here to our attention and then warned us she’d fLocked her Twitter.
I caught that.
re: #52 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Gee, Ms. Keller, there must be a total absence of gay agitators, marijuana, divorce, or general godlessness and heathen pop culture in other advanced countries because they don’t seem to have these massacres on a daily basis. New Zealand had one a while back but they seem to have cleaned up their act. Did the Southern Baptist Convention take the place over or what?
All things that exist in other countries. Republicans are just a bunch of gun humping cowards.
re: #51 Joe Bacon 🌹
Show us ONE example where Obama incited people to hate.
HIM BEING BLACK ALL OF THE TIME!
re: #56 HappyWarrior
All things that exist in other countries. Republicans are just a bunch of gun humping cowards.
The RWNJ’s love to bring up video games in discussions of violence.
If video games turned people into homicidal maniacs, Japan would be a goddamn slaughterhouse, with daily massacres.
re: #58 Dr Lizardo
The RWNJ’s love to bring up video games in discussions of violence.
If video games turned people to homicidal maniacs, Japan would be a goddamn slaughterhouse, with daily massacres.
It’s such shit.
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump’s supposed to give a presser this morning, but it’s going to be his usual baffling BS and attempt to deflect from his culpability in the rash of mass shootings and right wing domestic terrorism. His words and actions enable his racist base to act on their violent fantasies.
Stop. This is Trump doing his usual empty platitudes. It’s nonsense.
Trump doesn’t do background checks on his own nominees & doesn’t care about them for guns either.
He’s not demanding McConnell take up the House gun control package passed months ago— lawhawk (@lawhawk) August 5, 2019
So of course Trump’s trying to combine his demands for a wall with background checks.
Bulkshit - all of it is bulkshit. The wall wont stop any of the homegrown white supremacists and right wing domestic terrorists who radicalized listening to Fox, Trump, and right wing echo chamber and whose manifestos and utterances are indistinguishable from Trump. The wall is one more dog whistle reminding his racist base that nonwhites are the real threat.
Fuck that. And fuck the language police who complain that Beto used cuss words to describe the current situation. If you’re not cursing your ass off at the insanity of doing the same thing each time we have a mass shooting (aka doing nothing), then something is wrong with you, not them.
We continue to enable the gun lobby and gun sellers to dictate the terms of public safety, when the only thing the gun sellers want is to sell more guns. They’ve weaponized the courts to take a grossly irresponsible view of the 2A that writes out the very language of the 2A to enable gun humpers to purchase weapons of war and all the accoutrements. No one needs an assault weapon. No one needs a gun that looks like an assault weapon. No one needs a gun with a magazine with 100 rounds. The only reason to have those kinds of weapons is to kill the most number of people in the shortest time period.
Within a minute the Dayton shooter killed 9 and wounded 20+ before cops killed him. That’s in an open carry state. No good guys with guns acted or could have acted faster than the cops who were already patroling. There was no deterrent factor. Nope. The shooter did what shooters do - murdered their targets without a care.
Within a few minutes, the El Paso shooter killed 20 and wounded dozens. Again, an open carry state. Walmart sells guns. No one with a gun confronted or deterred the shooter until cops apprehended him.
The entire good guy with a gun mantra is so much bulkshit that Costco could be appalled at the portion size. Open carry doesn’t deter. More guns don’t deter. It just means more guns and more people who never should be allowed to have a firearm.
The fundamental reason there’s violence is because Trump is doing what he said he would and the country still isn’t all white. For a radical racist who wants an all white country, what else is there to do
— Hedge Fund with Class Character (@MenshevikM) August 4, 2019
Saturday, America was reeling from the El Paso massacre. And hours later Americans were horrified at yet another mass shooting in Dayton.
So where was Trump? He was busy hobnobbing with those at a wedding reception at his fucking golf resort business in NJ.
Priorities.
He profits from those wedding receptions and business. He profits from every single trip he makes to the golf resorts he owns. He golfs at pace not seen since Ike. This is all self-dealing.
And the GOP is fine with it. His base is fine with all of this.
None of this is normal. It’s the opposite of normal.
re: #62 lawhawk
Saturday, America was reeling from the El Paso massacre. And hours later Americans were horrified at yet another mass shooting in Dayton.
So where was Trump? He was busy hobnobbing with those at a wedding reception at his fucking golf resort business in NJ.
Priorities.
He profits from those wedding receptions and business. He profits from every single trip he makes to the golf resorts he owns. He golfs at pace not seen since Ike. This is all self-dealing.
And the GOP is fine with it. His base is fine with all of this.
None of this is normal. It’s the opposite of normal.
Compared to every…single…time that the GOP and the “liberal media” lost their collective shit that Obama was ever outside the confines of the White House because shit was going down and he wasn’t there to give an immediate press conference.
Neil deGrasse Tyson apologizes after backlash over mass shooting tweet
“My intent was to offer objectively true information that might help shape conversations and reactions to preventable ways we die,” Tyson said of his tweets in a Monday in a Facebook post.
I have nothing…
re: #64 Targetpractice
Compared to every…single…time that the GOP and the “liberal media” lost their collective shit that Obama was ever outside the confines of the White House because shit was going down and he wasn’t there to give an immediate press conference.
It’s amazing how much revisionism there is about all this.
The stock market is down more than 1%.
fuck trump. (I want to say more, but can’t)
and fuck trump
re: #66 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
You had one job.
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This viral typo did serve a useful purpose.
Typo excuse to remember Don Rendell
Chris Searle’s perceptive jazz reviews are by far the beat writing in the Morning Star, so it was unfortunate that he had to write in to correct a highly embarrassing typo for which (obviously) he was in no was responsible. Or perhaps not: it has drawn attention to a marvellous and, these days, largely overlooked British jazz musician and given me an excuse to draw your attention to his music:
I got nothin’. https://t.co/UCCJciyMIB
— Doctrine Man (@Doctrine_Man) August 5, 2019
Here’s the Russian embassy tweeting to defend Tulsi Gabbard’s support of the Assad regime in Syria.
Gotta stick up for your assets, you know. https://t.co/dHF7CxTe99— soonergrunt 🇺🇸 (@soonergrunt) August 5, 2019
It’s also value signaling that he sides with the white supremacists, nativists, and xenophobes in the GOP that make up the base that he’s still pushing for the very policies that the right wing domestic terrorists have acted upon - targeting minorities and immigrants.
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) August 5, 2019
Look, like most of you I have no idea what is going on in the Conway household and it makes me suspicious, but this thread is 100% spot-on.
2. But the problem will be that it was given by Trump, who’s incapable of sincere empathy. So it’ll be hard to believe that he believes the words he said. And his speech won’t address his own hateful, racist rhetoric.
— George Conway (@gtconway3d) August 4, 2019
4. He’ll see and hear all this criticism on TV, and he’ll stew. And stew. He’ll grow angry and resentful that he was forced to give the speech in the first place.
— George Conway (@gtconway3d) August 4, 2019
6. He’ll tweet, otherwise say, or do something that’ll completely undo whatever positive benefit came from the speech.
— George Conway (@gtconway3d) August 4, 2019
Now he’s undercutting his speech before he even gives it. Nice. https://t.co/JPT0m2bB06
— George Conway (@gtconway3d) August 5, 2019
re: #49 jeffreyw
Sparrow flock that normally hangs out at neighbor’s feeders nowhere to be seen this morning when I went to breakfast.
When I came back I noticed the Coopers Hawk sitting in the top of a nearby pine tree.
re: #58 Dr Lizardo
The RWNJ’s love to bring up video games in discussions of violence.
If video games turned people into homicidal maniacs, Japan would be a goddamn slaughterhouse, with daily massacres.
I was wondering how long it would take for video games to come up…
re: #77 Sir John Barron
I was wondering how long it would take for video games to come up…
Came up immediately.
re: #33 steve_davis
oh christ. futures are down 350 fucking points this morning. i don’t have the patience to worry about drag queen advocates.
Respectfully request that you clarify your statement regarding “drag queen advocates.”
Because the way I’m reading your statement, it sounds like you’re saying LGBTQ advocates should sit down and shut up in the face of attacks against the community … because your personal stock portfolio is suffering due to Trump’s malfeasance.
Am I reading your statement incorrectly?
re: #78 HappyWarrior
Came up immediately.
From multiple places. So it was obviously distributed out as the chosen talking point for this particular massacre.
re: #51 Joe Bacon 🌹
Well, there was that time he spent a whole week tweeting about what a sht hole that Congressman Joe “YOU LIE” Wilson’s South Carolina’s district was like and…
Oh wait, no, Obama didn’t actually do that.
/
So, one of my acquaintances posted something very thoughtworthy. You might not agree with Chris on all things, but on this topic, you should listen…
re: #78 HappyWarrior
Came up immediately.
Have also seen that it was all Obummer’s fault for open borders and such.
re: #80 Feline Fearless Leader
From multiple places. So it was obviously distributed out as the chosen talking point for this particular massacre.
Yep. They’re good at coordinating that. I’ll give em that.
re: #75 Feline Fearless Leader
Sparrow flock that normally hangs out at neighbor’s feeders nowhere to be seen this morning when I went to breakfast.
When I came back I noticed the Coopers Hawk sitting in the top of a nearby pine tree.
That tends to dampen the picnickers’ enthusiasm.
re: #84 HappyWarrior
Yep. They’re good at coordinating that. I’ll give em that.
Should be added to ‘thoughts and prayers’.
For future reference:
I didn’t get video, but here’s audio of the question and Beto O’Rourke’s answer. This came after an emotional vigil in El Paso, as O’Rourke circled behind a building looking for his wife. pic.twitter.com/VBk8xoE1lz
— Eric Bradner (@ericbradner) August 5, 2019
We know what Trump is doing. He stokes racism. He incites violence. We shouldn’t be asking if there’s anything he can do or if he’s responsible for this when we know the answer. I stand by what I said. https://t.co/zykowSpS6s
— Beto O’Rourke (@BetoORourke) August 5, 2019
re: #81 Sir John Barron
Well, there was that time he spent a whole week tweeting about what a sht hole that Congressman Joe “YOU LIE” Wilson’s South Carolina’s district was like and…
Oh wait, no, Obama didn’t actually do that.
/
Obama was the opposite. He never derided red America. He was always correct that’s it’s all America and it was true from his DNC 2004 Keynote to now.
re: #70 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
I got nothin’. https://t.co/UCCJciyMIB
— Doctrine Man (@Doctrine_Man) August 5, 2019
Yikes!
The owner of the company, Stephen Gore, pleaded guilty to conducting an illegal enterprise in a criminal case concerning the operation in 2015. He was sentenced to four years probation and forced to repay $120,500 to the Army Research Laboratory, according to court filings.
Gorey details of the FBI raid on Dr. Frankenstein’s Mr. Gore’s facility:
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re: #83 Sir John Barron
Have also seen that it was all Obummer’s fault for open borders and such.
Hell Obama has a lot of critics for not being pro immigrant enough and I’m sympathetic to that criticism but I also understand that Obama already had a tough road.
re: #89 HappyWarrior
Obama was the opposite. He never derided red America. He was always correct that’s it’s all America and it was true from his DNC 2004 Keynote to now.
Wingnuts clung to Obama’s “clinging to their guns” comment for eight years as the worst possible offense possible, but for all DJT”s tweets it’s “Well, he’s just a straightshooter, well, he just says what he feels and thinks, and well, yeah we wish he wouldn’t say some stuff but it’s all OK because he’s packing the SCOTUS like we like….”
re: #91 HappyWarrior
Hell Obama has a lot of critics for not being pro immigrant enough and I’m sympathetic to that criticism but I also understand that Obama already had a tough road.
Yeah Obama was both somehow responsible for separating parents and children at the border AND for allowing immigrants to pour over the walls, etc.
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re: #93 Sir John Barron
Wingnuts clung to Obama’s “clinging to their guns” comment for eight years as the worst possible offense possible, but for all DJT”s tweets it’s “Well, he’s just a straightshooter, well, he just says what he feels and thinks, and well, yeah we wish he wouldn’t say some stuff but it’s all OK because he’s packing the SCOTUS like we like….”
He was right about that too. They do CLING to their guns and religion.
re: #94 Sir John Barron
Yeah Obama was both somehow responsible for separating parents and children at the border AND for allowing immigrants to pour over the walls, etc.
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Schrodinger’s Obama.
Straight shooting is fine to wingnuts when it’s people they don’t like as the target. Same thing with being political incorrectness. But call out wingnuts as a bunch of chickenshits who don’t live in the 21st century or joke about their religion or ideology and they’re sensitive af.
Okay, upon further reflection, it looks like I AM reading Steve’s post incorrectly. Ms. Socially Conservative Gish Galloping GOP-er invoked “drag queen advocates” and it looks to me now that Steve is saying, “Who has time to blame LGBTQ advocates for society’s ills? Can’t you see the stock market is tanking?”
Marrying gun control to immigration is a racist poison pill. Leverage… The bastard.
re: #87 Belafon
Video version
‘What the f***?’ - Former Texas congressman Beto O’Rourke says President Trump’s language against minorities promotes racial division and violence.
Two mass shootings left 29 people dead this weekend in the US.
For more on the story: https://t.co/OmcmrDIRKm pic.twitter.com/ULEcYi8x1a— Sky News (@SkyNews) August 5, 2019
re: #75 Feline Fearless Leader
Sparrow flock that normally hangs out at neighbor’s feeders nowhere to be seen this morning when I went to breakfast.
When I came back I noticed the Coopers Hawk sitting in the top of a nearby pine tree.
May I borrow It? I need a culling of the English sparrows at my feeder.
Freep is totally losing it over Trump’s dance with background checks. A few realize that Trump has already restricted weapons (bump stocks) more than Obama,
re: #99 Rightwingconspirator
Marrying gun control to immigration is a racist poison pill. Leverage… The bastard.
Especially as it is obvious that as far the Trump Administration is concerned “immigration reform” means Building The Wall, completely halting all (non-white) immigration absolutely, engaging in mass dragnets against “illegals” - DREAMERs and DACA kids included: and the whole program conducted as a quasi-military exercise - with a studied disregard for any existing laws or protections. Except for the odd white people caught up in it, of course….
re: #99 Rightwingconspirator
Marrying gun control to immigration is a racist poison pill. Leverage… The bastard.
I see it more as “if we give the terrorists what they want, they’ll stop terrorizing….”
re: #99 Rightwingconspirator
Marrying gun control to immigration is a racist poison pill. Leverage… The bastard.
Frankly, it was probably Miller’s idea more than anyone else’s.
When a man claiming he could shoot someone on the street and get away with it talks about mass shootings, well consider the source.
Pass
LIVE: @NBCNews Special Report: President Trump speaks following two mass shooting attacks that left 29 people dead and dozens more injured. https://t.co/s0wtFc8tb5 https://t.co/xIKNFjigbz
— NBC News (@NBCNews) August 5, 2019
Since he announced his candidacy, Trump’s core message has been that violent immigrants are invading our country, stoking hate and fueling white grievances. The fact that stating this is in any way called controversial or “divisive” is a big part of how he gets away with it.
— Ben Rhodes (@brhodes) August 5, 2019
Here it comes… Blah blah.
Hate lives in the White House.
Said Joe scarborough: “The president never tones down his rhetoric. In fact, for those of you who are funding Donald Trump’s reelection campaign you may want to take note that because you keep writing checks to this president it’s on you, it really is, because you are funding this white supremacist campaign
re: #9 Anymouse 🌹🎃
8ch is gone. Cloudflare actually followed through.
They’ll be able to find an alternative service.
If nothing else, the Russian intelligence services would love to host their site, as it would give them more direct access to people willing to carry terrorist attacks against the USA.
WashPost commenter:
Spokesman for McConnell denied that he’d collapsed under the weight of his hypocrisy. “Actually, he tripped over a giant bag of NRA cash that had been left lying around,” said the staffer. “Normally we keep it well out of sight, but someone just screwed up.”— Michelle (@Mopshell) August 4, 2019
re: #111 Danack
I’ve read they’ve already found a new service to replace the one they lost - epik dot com or something like that. Apparently, they’re fairly well-known for providing services to extreme right-wing websites that no one else will touch.
Trump-Blaming the internet and video games. Ugh.
Lre: #114 Rightwingconspirator
Trump-Blaming the internet and video games. Ugh.
He literally echos your rhetoric.
re: #87 Belafon
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re: #114 Rightwingconspirator
Trump-Blaming the internet and video games. Ugh.
I will send money to any reporter that asks any Republican in Congress or the White House why video games and the internet since other countries have them as well.
re: #114 Rightwingconspirator
Trump-Blaming the internet and video games. Ugh.
Delivering his message with less emotion and empathy than the guy announcing the special over the PA system at any Winn Dixie
re: #119 Belafon
I will send money to any reporter that asks any Republican in Congress or the White House why video games and the internet since other countries have them as well.
American Exceptionalism. Of course.
re: #120 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Delivering his message with less emotion and empathy than the guy announcing the special over the PA system at any Winn Dixie
Because he doesn’t care.
Let’s start with you, Fatso.
President Trump: “In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry and white supremacy. These sinister ideologies must be defeated. Hate has no place in America” https://t.co/yYzXIN5Uub pic.twitter.com/SSQEF1B0En
— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) August 5, 2019
re: #123 The Pie Overlord!
Let’s start with you, Fatso.
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Says the biggest white supremacist in the country.
Toledo?
Useless president, can’t even the basics right.
JFC
“May God bless the memory of those who perished in Toledo”
Toledo? pic.twitter.com/xVkqrveEl9— Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) August 5, 2019
What is the format for posting a Tweet in a thread where you don’t also want the previous Tweet.
re: #118 Feline Fearless Leader
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DoD has rented falcons and their handlers as part of the Bird Aircraft Strike Hazard (BASH) program. They were used with limited success to reduce pigeons and other flying trash near hangars and airfields. (There are almost 2500 damaging bird strikes per year.)
How it looks overseas. I really like this blunt headline in the Sydney Morning-Herald.
US in the midst of a white nationalist terrorism crisis
These right-wing extremists are not only channelling neo-Nazi borne “Great Replacement” conspiracy theories, which frame demographic change as a threat to white Europeans, but also taking a cue from the words and policies of President Donald Trump.
It was only two weeks ago when Trump inspired an auditorium full of his supporters to chant “send her back” in reference to the country’s first elected black Muslim congresswoman, Ilhan Omar, who was born in Somalia and migrated to the US as the young daughter of refugee parents.
Earlier in the year, Trump smeared all immigrants approaching the US-Mexico border as invaders when he said, “People hate the word ‘invasion’, but that’s what it is.”
Trump has also referred to Latin American refugees and asylum seekers as “rapists”, “criminals”, drug dealers” and “terrorists”.
It’s worth remembering that when a Rwandan politician described Rwanda’s Tutsi minority as “cockroaches” it started a genocide that resulted in the deaths of upwards of one million people in that country.
Reminder that the House passed a bill for “strong background checks” and that the president could theoretically push McConnell to take it up and twist Republican arms to get it passed.
— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) August 5, 2019
A Cooper’s Hawk killed a roadrunner right in front of my neighbor’s house. She said her cat was going bonkers watching it.
Nature is harsh man.
He wants to kill more people
President Trump says he’s directing DOJ to “propose legislation ensuring that those who commit hate crimes and mass murders face the death penalty, and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively and without years of needless delay.” https://t.co/yYzXIN5Uub pic.twitter.com/5v2kj4f8I5
— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) August 5, 2019
Using this logic, why is the US government concerned about Iran or North Korea acquiring nuclear weapons?
— 𝘞𝘉 𝘠𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘨 🍕🐀 (@FormerDirtDart) August 5, 2019
re: #133 The Pie Overlord!
He wants to kill more people
He, and probably the rest of the GOP, is looking for a way to turn this into a pro-Republican issue without addressing the real problem.
I will let the boss speak for himself. pic.twitter.com/J3dtnopaCo
— Addisu Demissie (@ASDem) August 5, 2019
re: #120 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Delivering his message with less emotion and empathy than the guy announcing the special over the PA system at any Winn Dixie
Of course: It’s Donald Trump: any speech that doesn’t focus on:
A) Promoting himself
B) Insulting somebody
C) Whipping up hate/resentment
he probably considers not worth giving. Unless he HAS to (i.e. somebody else in his Admin convinces him he HAS to. Which of course, simply feeds Trump’s own resentments). George Conway’s take (as recapped in Comment #73) is right on: and Trump’s inane “Toledo” gaffe is probably going to accelerate the process: it will probably be the main takeaway from his speech…..
re: #133 The Pie Overlord!
He wants to kill more people
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re: #138 HappyWarrior
He wants public executions.
And it would be easy to fill the stadium. That’s at the core of the problem.
re: #133 The Pie Overlord!
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Is it me, or does he look like his blood pressure is through the roof right now?
Someone who is that red-faced while standing still is not a healthy man.
re: #128 Decatur Deb
JFK, EWR, and LGA all have bird strike reduction programs, because we’re on the Atlantic flyway in NYC metro. I think they use everything from falcons to shooting to scare off birds.
re: #9 Anymouse 🌹🎃
8ch is gone. Cloudflare actually followed through.
Now the thing for boycotters to do is to follow where they go next, as was done with Daily Stormer.
I’m sure someone in Russia is willing to host them.
re: #139 Decatur Deb
And it would be easy to fill the stadium. That’s at the core of the problem.
It would be.
re: #141 lawhawk
JFK, EWR, and LGA all have bird strike reduction programs, because we’re on the Atlantic flyway in NYC metro. I think they use everything from falcons to shooting to scare off birds.
It was a couple of your geese that let Sully demonstrate his proficiency.
It is strange watching this speech being analyzed as a serious text when the president got the name of the city wrong at the end. Presumably someone on his staff wrote Toledo instead of Dayton, and no one caught it, not even the president.
— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) August 5, 2019
His fucking staff is incompetent. He is incompetent. He doesn’t care about this.
He doesn’t care about any of this.
This shows just how little he and the GOP care about gun violence. They can’t even get the name of the city where it occurred correct.
Fuck all of those who voted for Trump.
GOP delenda est. For the sake of the nation, we need to utterly crush the GOP and begin rolling back all the regressive policies they’ve enacted that deprive minorities of their rights and start to deal with the way Trump, McConnell, and the GOP remade the judiciary and Supreme Court with right wing extremists who will sit on the bench for decades to come.
I’m sure everyone could use this about now
Next we work in a little conditioner. pic.twitter.com/ffveNaXU72
— IAMis Dangerous to Evil I hope (@IAMISjp) July 22, 2019
re: #142 Romantic Heretic
Some wackaloon did.
Without DDOS protection, 8chan went down overnight. Now its admin says it is switching to another service, BitMitigate, the anti-DDOS used by the Daily Stormer. (BitMitigate is owned by Epik, the web host that took in Gab after the Tree of Life shooting.) https://t.co/XeWekTKVUA
— Kevin Roose (@kevinroose) August 5, 2019
re: #145 lawhawk
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His fucking staff is incompetent. He is incompetent. He doesn’t care about this.
He doesn’t care about any of this.
This shows just how little he and the GOP care about gun violence. They can’t even get the name of the city where it occurred correct.
Fuck all of those who voted for Trump.
GOP delenda est. For the sake of the nation, we need to utterly crush the GOP and begin rolling back all the regressive policies they’ve enacted that deprive minorities of their rights and start to deal with the way Trump, McConnell, and the GOP remade the judiciary and Supreme Court with right wing extremists who will sit on the bench for decades to come.
This is such a bad dream.
re: #145 lawhawk
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His fucking staff is incompetent. He is incompetent. He doesn’t care about this.
He doesn’t care about any of this.
This shows just how little he and the GOP care about gun violence. They can’t even get the name of the city where it occurred correct.
Fuck all of those who voted for Trump.
GOP delenda est. For the sake of the nation, we need to utterly crush the GOP and begin rolling back all the regressive policies they’ve enacted that deprive minorities of their rights and start to deal with the way Trump, McConnell, and the GOP remade the judiciary and Supreme Court with right wing extremists who will sit on the bench for decades to come.
Winning 2020 by 2 points in the right states really isn’t going to solve this shit.
Oh shit. https://t.co/gYj6tH5MvX
— Mieke Eoyang (@MiekeEoyang) August 5, 2019
re: #149 Decatur Deb
No, it isn’t. Undoing the damage Trump and McConnnell have done to the courts will take years, and not go without legal battles to protect the extremists McConnell put on the bench to say nothing of the battles to protect the rights we have and those that the GOP are looking to undo.
Let me see if I got this: A white supremacist comes to my community with a weapon of war, murders my neighbors because they are Latino, and we should tie tepid gun measures to honoring a terrorist’s grievances? https://t.co/AKRZkXldAI
— Bob Moore (@BobMooreNews) August 5, 2019
re: #152 lawhawk
No, it isn’t. Undoing the damage Trump and McConnnell have done to the courts will take years, and not go without legal battles to protect the extremists McConnell put on the bench to say nothing of the battles to protect the rights we have and those that the GOP are looking to undo.
A 60/40 Dem turnout would be a good start.
No it’s not going to fix it. What bothers me is thinking they might learn from Trump’s mistakes and give us something even worse in 2024.
Let me get this straight: The President of the United States wants to execute people who are suffering from a mental illness?
Haha no! He wants to execute innocent Black & Brown people!
Can anyone think of the last time a mentally ill person committed a mass shooting? John Hinckley comes to mind. Anyone else?
re: #155 HappyWarrior
No it’s not going to fix it. What bothers me is thinking they might learn from Trump’s mistakes and give us something even worse in 2024.
They will try.
re: #158 The Pie Overlord!
Let me get this straight: The President of the United States wants to execute people who are suffering from a mental illness?
Haha no! He wants to execute innocent Black & Brown people!
Can anyone think of the last time a mentally ill person committed a mass shooting? John Hinckley comes to mind. Anyone else?
Sandy Hook, probably, but when they are killed we don’t get to learn much from them.
re: #150 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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Trump referred to the protestors as “rioters,” so there’ll be no push back from the WH, that’s for sure.
Trump sounds like a robot when condemning white supremacy and like himself when he’s attacking religious and ethnic minorities because one is him pretending and one is him being himself.
— Adam Serwer🍝 (@AdamSerwer) August 5, 2019
Trump links his racist white supremacist immigration policy to gun control efforts. He’s derailing the gun control effort.
He is who he has always been - a racist who enables other racists to act. The wall wouldn’t stop a single right wing domestic terrorist. Gun control could— lawhawk (@lawhawk) August 5, 2019
re: #161 Barefoot Grin
Trump referred to the protestors as “rioters,” so there’ll be no push back from the WH, that’s for sure.
I think Trump has fucked with the Chinese enough for one week.
google.com
re: #155 HappyWarrior
No it’s not going to fix it. What bothers me is thinking they might learn from Trump’s mistakes and give us something even worse in 2024.
It’s going to take Democrats voting in 2022 like they’re voting in 2020, and Democrats in 2024 voting to beat 2020. Voters bear the biggest responsibility for this, and Democratic voters are going to have to realize that, as much as it’s not fair, they’re going to have to do more than the minimum.
re: #158 The Pie Overlord!
Let me get this straight: The President of the United States wants to execute people who are suffering from a mental illness?
Haha no! He wants to execute innocent Black & Brown people!
Can anyone think of the last time a mentally ill person committed a mass shooting? John Hinckley comes to mind. Anyone else?
Just define the perpetrators as mentally ill, problem solved. While we’re at it loop gamers into that definition, and any other undesirables. By equating all those groups as ill, you can lock them up or do your mass executions.
re: #165 Belafon
It’s going to take Democrats voting in 2022 like they’re voting in 2020, and Democrats in 2024 voting to beat 2020. Voters bear the biggest responsibility for this, and Democratic voters are going to have to realize that, as much as it’s not fair, they’re going to have to do more than the minimum.
Absolutely
re: #150 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Tiananmen Square Massacre, 2019 edition.
Son2 put me on to a fantastic mental health break. I’ve been deliberately falling asleep while watching hours of this in a recliner. The wine helps.
re: #125 ozharas
Toledo?
Useless president, can’t even the basics right.
otoh, as mrs dm points out, there are so many shootings, he could have gotten it right by accident
Next this damn fool is gonna bless Bowling Green. #Toledo
WHY DIDN’T HE LISTEN TO THAT YOUNG BROTHA? 😡😡😡😡 https://t.co/HFGHyBW1mG— Michael W. Twitty (@KosherSoul) August 5, 2019
re: #169 Dr Lizardo
Tiananmen Square Massacre, 2019 edition.
It’s going to be tragic. There was never any way out for Beijing but suppression (though it’s not a fight Beijing wanted; this started over an extradition row between HK and Taiwan that would have ultimately allowed extradition to the mainland if new laws went through the HK government).
re: #125 ozharas
Toledo?
Useless president, can’t even the basics right.
One of those Indiana cities or towns.
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re: #125 ozharas
Toledo?
Useless president, can’t even the basics right.
Yes, the great state of Michigan has had a hard time with shootings and violence. Too bad. Did you know I won Michigan in 2016? Not many people know that. Toledo, Michigan is a much better city than Elijah Cummings’ Baltimore, which has all the rats.
re: #166 Colère Tueur de Lapin
Just define the perpetrators as mentally ill, problem solved. While we’re at it loop gamers into that definition, and any other undesirables. By equating all those groups as ill, you can lock them up or do your mass executions.
The “mental illness” trope is a huge win for RWNJ authoritarians. They gain more authority and control over private choices, they get to funnel money into “faith based” mental health scams, and they get to preserve the sanctity of their gun cult.
Even non RWNJs fall for the mental illness stuff. I asked my mom- would anyone equate mental illness to Bin Laden? No, she says. The fact is mental illness is used to create an “other.”
No one tried saying mental illness after Pulse or Fort Hood.
re: #68 I Would Prefer Not To
The stock market is down more than 1%.
fuck trump. (I want to say more, but can’t)and fuck trump
down more than 1% today. I only, other than BRK-B, pretty much nothing that doesn’t generate dividends, and I’ve still been taking it good and hard the last few weeks. I can only imagine what life has been like for folks who stay in the NASDAQ and want stock gains above all else. I haven’t looked at Beyond Meat, but I’m guessing a ton of people are taking profits there, or selling because they’re on margin and getting creamed, or maybe just desperately selling because they have to, to cover losses they’re taking elsewhere.
Thoughts and prayer to all who perished this weekend in Toledo, Ohio. Was it windmill cancer?https://t.co/QV3XMyMOif
— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@BettyBowers) August 5, 2019
re: #172 The Pie Overlord!
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re: #155 HappyWarrior
No it’s not going to fix it. What bothers me is thinking they might learn from Trump’s mistakes and give us something even worse in 2024.
Radical Xtians are already backing Ivanka in 2024…
I guess it wasn’t just Trump who got confused—sigh—-
Welcome to your gerontocracy. pic.twitter.com/yTjdkfDHxQ
— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) August 5, 2019
Three years ago.
Ohio Trump campaign chair Kathy Miller says there was ‘no racism’ before Obama
Kathy Miller called the Black Lives Matter movement ‘a stupid waste of time’ and said low African American voter turnout could be due to ‘the way they’re raised’
The county Republican chair, one Mark Munroe, called the comments “insane” and Miller was duly given the boot.
Now, though, with Trump making the same assertions and the GOP falling dutifully into line, she must be feeling vindicated, a bigot ahead of her time.
re: #181 makeitstop
His
teethdentures are loose again, you can see him sucking them back into place.
FTFY.
re: #183 Barefoot Grin
I guess it wasn’t just Trump who got confused—sigh—-
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FFS Joe.
re: #184 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Three years ago.
Ohio Trump campaign chair Kathy Miller says there was ‘no racism’ before Obama
The county Republican chair, one Mark Munroe, called the comments “insane” and Miller was duly given the boot.
Now, though, with Trump making the same assertions and the GOP falling dutifully into line, she must be feeling vindicated, a bigot ahead of her time.
Republicans are so pathetically deluded.
re: #183 Barefoot Grin
Biden did correct himself.
Houston was also site of a mass shooting - one that took lives of multiple cops.
Plus, there was the garden variety shootings and homicides that don’t make national headlines. 10 shot in 12 hours in Houston. Yeah, open carry and easy to get guns really makes the city safe.
Deleted previous tweet on this, as @SCMPNews has reported a different purpose for this gathering, @PMCroninHudsonhttps://t.co/EewPlyKwpI https://t.co/gYj6tH5MvX
— Mieke Eoyang (@MiekeEoyang) August 5, 2019
caveats re background checks
- the goal is to reduce the total number of gun deaths
- there is nothing, no law or set of laws, that can prevent or predict the next mass shooting
as i wrote back in 2016 on the freakonomics of gun control
enhanced background checks, in and of themselves aren’t nearly enough. we need more for it to work at all.
first recognize that ‘sale’ must not mean just initial ‘sales’ from gun stores. it must cover every transfer. every private sale, every loan, every ‘transaction’ in which you cede or grant physical control of a weapon you own to someone else.
from the page above
First some sort of no-fly list - call it what you want. If the government has the power to limit who can have a gun, ie felons and others, then every transfer or sale of any kind must be able to be vetted against this ‘list’ - otherwise the power to limit isn’t real. So access should be available to everyone because everyone has to have a way to know if they shouldn’t or can’t sell to person X.
Yes, there should be due process to get on, and mechanisms for review in case of errors. Verification access should be cheap or free. My preference is for a private system similar to credit reporting, though I’m not sure how that would work re sensitive, private information.
and again, every sale, transfer, loan etc has to have one - yeah even if you loan to your buddy for an afternoon of shooting at the range.
the next problem will clearly be situations like a dad/grandad gifting a gun to a son (or whoever). Lots of that kind of thing. How are we ever gonna know? And then we’re back to a loophole so big you could drive a semi through it with clearance on both sides for the mirrors.
background checks will only help if they’re strong, comprehensive and truly without exception (universal). It is exceptions that open the floodgates.
They blame video games for “teaching” people to kill but treat cops and military members as unquestioned heroes.
re: #190 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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Ok, that’s a relief. Hope that proximity doesn’t entice a crackdown from these forces.
re: #154 Decatur Deb
A 60/40 Dem turnout would be a good start.
when dems vote, dems win
vote like your life depends on it, because, increasingly it does.
All over the country, there are people who hear Trump’s hateful rhetoric, then see someone’s brown skin, or hear someone’s accent, and they see an enemy. They don’t think to ask “how did you immigrate” before they make that association. They don’t, I think, think much at all.
— ClinicEscort (@ClinicEscort) August 5, 2019
Thoughts on Trump statement;
- The “Fake News” media has nothing to do with why all those people were killed over the weekend.
- Trying to use these tragedies to ram through your racist immigration bullshit is tone deaf as FUCK.
- “Hate has no place in America.” Great! When are you going to get the fuck out?
- Mental illness didn’t cause these shootings.
- Violent Video games didn’t cause these shootings.
- The only thing great that could come out of this would be universal background check enforcement, a ban on high capacity magazines and increased scrutiny of Assault weapon sales.
Also remember: EVERY time Trump has been forced to begrudgingly condemn white nationalists he backtracks within days.
This statement was just a giant angry orange asshole (poorly) reading meaningless words off a screen.
re: #195 jaunte
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They just assume illegal. I’m glad she was able to afford to come here legally. A lot of people don’t have that luxury and post 1959 Cuban-Americans like Ted Cruz’s father benefited from simply being Cuban.
re: #197 HappyWarrior
Lots of Cubans in the Miami area are strong conservatives and would not believe what the anglos who fled to Broward County are still saying about them.
re: #193 Barefoot Grin
Ok, that’s a relief. Hope that proximity doesn’t entice a crackdown from these forces.
Same here, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if there was a bloody crackdown at some point in the not-too-distant future, especially if the protests continue and/or escalate.
re: #199 Dr Lizardo
Same here, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the were a bloody crackdown at some point in the not-too-distant future, especially if the protests continue and/or escalate.
For a country with probably 1,000,000 Uyghurs in concentration camps, violent suppression is a pretty good bet. Hope not.
Limp delivery, obvious disinterest in the subject matter, and totally flubbing the ending. Yeah, this is something that he got forced to do, which means the moment he slips away from his handlers he’s gonna denounce most of it and go back to screaming like a raving nut.
re: #194 DangerMan
when dems vote, dems win
vote like your life depends on it, because, increasingly it does.
As this diary points out, the reason so many Republicans in Texas are retiring is that, last year, while they were expecting a 1% increase in voting, Texas saw an 18% increase in voting. Texas went from being the worst state in midterm voting to the 6th best state.
Does anyone still believe “the objections of WH staff members” matter or somehow make them better sources as they seek to salve their own support for hate-fueled violence? https://t.co/oZtLiNeICB
— Molly McKew (@MollyMcKew) August 5, 2019
re: #195 jaunte
All over the country, there are people who hear Trump’s hateful rhetoric, then see someone’s brown skin, or hear someone’s accent, and they see an enemy. They don’t think to ask “how did you immigrate” before they make that association. They don’t, I think, think much at all.
FFS brown skin and an accent doesnt have to mean “immigrant”
the goal is to make ‘them’ ‘the other’
and if you’re asking ‘how’, then it’s too late.
they’ve already won you over to this perverted thinking
El Paso shooters manifesto calls for universal healthcare and pay and is extremely anti corporate. These are all leftists ideas.
— Bryan (@Bryan21694917) August 4, 2019
When did racism become a right-wing talking point? Not sure, I’ll ask those people shouting “send her back” if they know.
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) August 5, 2019
re: #204 DangerMan
FFS brown skin and an accent doesnt have to mean “immigrant”
the goal is to make ‘them’ ‘the other’
and if you’re asking ‘how’, then it’s too late.
they’ve already won you over to this perverted thinking
As someone married to one such person (who daily visits the homes of elderly folks who watch Fox all day), I’m more than a little worried.
re: #203 jaunte
Maggie Haberman
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@maggieNYT
Morning tweets that were done over the objection of some staff members, and which underscore the possibility that he will tweet something in the next 12 hours that undercuts the remarks he just gave.Nothing about what he floated on Twitter this morning, re the non-starter of pairing immigration reform with background checks. Or blaming the media. https://t.co/olz1dmlFBE
— Annie Karni (@anniekarni) August 5, 2019
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i do not believe trump vets his tweets with his staff
re: #207 DangerMan
Yeah, pretty sure “objections of staff” is a complete fantasy.
re: #207 DangerMan
i do not believe trump vets his tweets with his staff
Would you want to be in the bathroom with him?
re: #205 Ace-o-aces
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He literally cited you Paul. Yeah he had some leftist views but Sanders and Warren have never condoned violent solutions. But go ahead go no true right winger.
re: #203 jaunte
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I genuinely do not believe anybody in that office talks to Maggie without Donny or one of his brood knowing about it. The whole “over objections” shit is an access journalist not wanting to risk being shut out of the palace intrigue circuit by reporting that everybody has given up on stopping the man.
The token RWNJ on my FB feed is howling that he will never give up his guns, with his yokel followers joining the chorus to drown out any squeak of non-NRA heresy. This reflects their cult’s sacred tenet that any suggestion of gun regulation is tantamount to confiscation. This is probably the second greatest RWNJ gun delusion, exceeded only by their potentially fatal assumption that they have a monopoly on guns and shooting proficiency.
As we see here at LGF, this is far from the truth. They do have a monopoly on the gun business, though. One of the annoying things about clinging to gun nuttery is that there are essentially no lib-owned gun outlets. The business, from manufacturing to point-of-sale and most services, is 100% RWNJ controlled. There are a handful of non-RWNJ ranges and gunsmiths, but if you’re liberal and want to stay armed, for whatever reason, you will be colluding with the enemy. It disgusts me to go to a commercial range and see the aging yuppies and Duck Dynasty beardos showing off their AR-15s and Glocks, not to mention the ever-present risk of an accidental discharge or some other disaster from these doofi. I am fortunate to have room and a good backstop for a shooting range right here at the Conspiracy Compound but it has many limitations and a full service range would be better.
re: #205 Ace-o-aces
El Paso shooters manifesto calls for universal healthcare and pay and is extremely anti corporate. These are all leftists ideas.
— Bryan
Oh well, that settles it, then.
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re: #206 Barefoot Grin
As someone married to one such person (who daily visits the homes of elderly folks who watch Fox all day), I’m more than a little worried.
and to be blunt, that’s the point
they dont want to distinguish:
- born in the USA
- green card holder
- from ‘legal’ immigrant
- someone who legally came over from Juarez to El Paso for the day
- refugee / asylum seeker
- etc
and they arent trying to
re: #207 DangerMan
FFS, Trump doesn’t vet his staff, let alone his nominees.
Steve Bannon has some views that aren’t typically right wing too and he’s not going to be called a leftist. Yeah some of these guys aren’t cheerleaders for capitalism but they all share sexism and racism, Trumps bread and butter.
re: #212 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
The token RWNJ on my FB feed is howling that he will never give up his guns, with his yokel followers joining the chorus to drown out any squeak of non-NRA heresy. This reflects their cult’s sacred tenet that any suggestion of gun regulation is tantamount to confiscation. This is probably the second greatest RWNJ gun delusion, exceeded only by their potentially fatal assumption that they have a monopoly on guns and shooting proficiency.
As we see here at LGF, this is far from the truth. They do have a monopoly on the gun business, though. One of the annoying things about clinging to gun nuttery is that there are essentially no lib-owned gun outlets. The business, from manufacturing to point-of-sale and most services, is 100% RWNJ controlled. There are a handful of non-RWNJ ranges and gunsmiths, but if you’re liberal and want to stay armed, for whatever reason, you will be colluding with the enemy. It disgusts me to go to a commercial range and see the aging yuppies and Duck Dynasty beardos showing off their AR-15s and Glocks, not to mention the ever-present risk of an accidental discharge or some other disaster from these doofi. I am fortunate to have room and a good backstop for a shooting range right here at the Conspiracy Compound but it has many limitations and a full service range would be better.
extra slice of raisin pie for ‘doofi’
re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg
Hate has every place in trumpland.
re: #205 Ace-o-aces
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I thought about commenting upon this last night about Bernie, namely that he and many of his lily-white flock dismiss “identity politics” for the same reason that wingnuts have no problem with SS or Medicare: “It’s okay for me, but not for thee.” Wingnuts loved socialist programs until LBJ came along and said that everybody had to share the pie. Similarly old-school socialists like Bernie think that everybody can have pie…but only if you restrict who gets a seat at the table. That’s why those “progressives” that follow Bernie don’t care much for immigration, because they don’t see it as a humanitarian or rights issue, all they see is more competition for what they think should be theirs.
Sad to report that the number of fatalities increased by one. Victim passed early this morning at the hospital.
— EL PASO POLICE DEPT (@EPPOLICE) August 5, 2019
re: #216 HappyWarrior
Steve Bannon has some views that aren’t typically right wing too and he’s not going to be called a leftist. Yeah some of these guys aren’t cheerleaders for capitalism but they all share sexism and racism, Trumps bread and butter.
Here’s the trick: Fascism is not standard Conservative ideology. All the guys on the Right push Fascism, but when a mass shooter espouses the same ideal they espouse, they point to the differences between that and classic Conservative ideology to say “he’s not Conservative!”, even though, really, they aren’t either.
It’s all a con. They might even be aware of it. Some of them certainly are.
re: #222 Blind Frog Belly White
Here’s the trick: Fascism is not standard Conservative ideology. All the guys on the Right push Fascism, but when a mass shooter espouses the same ideal they espouse, they point to the differences between that and classic Conservative ideology to say “he’s not Conservative!”, even though, really, they aren’t either.
It’s all a con. They might even be aware of it. Some of them certainly are.
Exactly
Good morning. Headed back to the real world after 11 days of vacation — not that I ever really disconnected.
Bummed because I just saw a reference to Gilroy and realized I’d forgotten all about it. Also, 11 days, three mass shootings.
ETA: big enough to make the national news.
Thread time:
(Thread) Impeachment 201
“If we decide to report articles of impeachment,” Nadler said Monday, “we could get to that late in the fall…” https://t.co/HhjzaM45Yb
Take out your notebooks. It’s time Impeachment 201, the advanced course.— Teri Kanefield (@Teri_Kanefield) August 5, 2019
re: #222 Blind Frog Belly White
Here’s the trick: Fascism is not standard Conservative ideology. All the guys on the Right push Fascism, but when a mass shooter espouses the same ideal they espouse, they point to the differences between that and classic Conservative ideology to say “he’s not Conservative!”, even though, really, they aren’t either.
It’s all a con. They might even be aware of it. Some of them certainly are.
Because the shooter’s manifesto includes the word “the” it automatically is not true conservative and is therefore angry Leftist screed which all Democrat Party must renounce.
re: #212 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Send him this. (via Balloon Juice)
The gun is not a mere tool, a bit of technology, a political issue, a point of debate. It is an object of reverence. Devotion to it precludes interruption with the sacrifices it entails. Like most gods, it does what it will, and cannot be questioned. Its acolytes think it is capable only of good things. It guarantees life and safety and freedom. It even guarantees law. Law grows from it. Then how can law question it?
Its power to do good is matched by its incapacity to do anything wrong. It cannot kill. Thwarting the god is what kills. If it seems to kill, that is only because the god’s bottomless appetite for death has not been adequately fed. The answer to problems caused by guns is more guns, millions of guns, guns everywhere, carried openly, carried secretly, in bars, in churches, in offices, in government buildings. Only the lack of guns can be a curse, not their beneficent omnipresence.
re: #125 ozharas
Toledo?
Useless president, can’t even the basics right.
City in Ohio, sounds like “El Paso”.
FAIL.
Hallo please find the unroll here: Thread by @SenMcCollister: “The Republican Party is enabling white supremacy in our country. As a lifelong Republican, it pains me to say this, but […]” https://t.co/tweaQ7gcq7
Talk to you soon. 🤖— Thread Reader App (@threadreaderapp) August 5, 2019
Somehow I trust the biased Western observers more than Chinese state media. No doubt their COVER is “anniversary celebration”, but it’s still massive numbers of armed PLA troops, and I see no way this doesn’t still end with HK law subsumed under mainland.
— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) August 5, 2019
re: #230 Feline Fearless Leader
City in Ohio, sounds like “El Paso”.
FAIL.
“Toledo” sounds like brown people…
re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth
“Toledo” sounds like brown people…
Anybody can get through El Paso if they pay the Toledo.
Matt Bevin is running racist TV commercials railing about “open borders” and sanctuary cities (there are none in Kentucky) in his reelection campaign today.
On Saturday, all the newsreaders I heard were saying ‘the WalMart’, like the locals do (some say ‘el WalMart’) but by Sunday, they were saying ‘A WalMart’, because there is more than one in El Paso.
They’ve murdered young socialists in Norway, Muslims in Christchurch and Finsbury Park, Jews in Pittsburgh and Poway, black worshippers in Charleston, and now Latinos in El Paso. Far right terror is growing - and it’s being fuelled by the powerful. #WhiteSupremacistTerrorism
— Owen Jones🌹 (@OwenJones84) August 4, 2019
make no mistake these shootings are terrorism
though not ‘classic’ terrorism (wow, how far we’ve come).
- it’s disjoint, unorganized, and doesn’t seem to have an actual political purpose or goal.
yes, i know we might say they have an ideology or whatever due to the screeds they post.
- the point of terrorism - stoking fear in the innocent to use as a tool to effect a political change isn’t what’s happening here
- sure they are sometimes targeting certain types of individuals
- overall they are just inflicting mostly random, purposeless, chaos.
and let’s also be clear: these people are cowards
in almost all circumstances of ‘mass’ killings, and a lot of other ones, - in addition to all the other things a gun does and a gun gets you, more than almost any other it is a cowards way to get what he wants / to win / to be in control
it creates distance/space - makes it a bit less personal and much easier to wreak havoc/death, terror, whatever
it’s the cowards way
certainly using a car into a crowd can be just as impersonal, but cars don’t have that innate terrorist effect, aren’t as assuredly deadly, etc
in these pro-active, planned cases (not self defense or heat of the moment arguments) they are cowards (never mind that the targets are children or the unarmed, or the unsuspecting, or whatever…).
On the killing method, this is complete cowardice.
re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Trump trying to tie the issue of immigration reform to gun control after a white nationalist inspired by his racist rhetoric just targeted immigrants in a mass murder spree is the most DARVO shit ever.
— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) August 5, 2019
Would that Twitter allowed for more chars to further rip into such gun nuts…
1) You’re failing every tenant of basic weapon handling.
2) That weapon is not secured.
3) That weapon is unacceptably filthy.
4) That car is SERIOUSLY filthy.
5) You’ve no legitimate cause for lugging around a weapon of war designed for killing others as a civilian like that.— Arch1 (@Arch_LGF) August 5, 2019
re: #241 Archangelus
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Leave guns alone! But treat all people with mental illness like future murderers.
re: #242 HappyWarrior
Leave guns alone! But treat all people with mental illness like future murderers.
Let the Romneybot get another upgrade and I’m sure he’ll shortly say that guns are people too.
So far today:
- These shooters are mentally ill, so we must prioritize executing them faster and with less process.
- We must protect ourselves by doing what the El Paso terrorist wanted.
re: #235 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Matt Bevin is running racist TV commercials railing about “open borders” and sanctuary cities (there are none in Kentucky) in his reelection campaign today.
Just need a little segment on violent video games and he’ll be all set.
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re: #242 HappyWarrior
Leave guns alone! But treat all people with mental illness like future murderers.
It’s why I want to turn the ol’ wingnut standby of “What law would have stopped this?!” back on them. If you truly believe that these gunmen were “mentally ill,” then what law would have stopped them?
I personally know how I’d answer, but I don’t believe that this was a matter of “mental illness.” Any more than it was “violent video games” or “fake news.”
My wife just informed me that the nephew of a co-worker was one of the victims in the Dayton shooting.
I hate that even peripherally, we have a personal connection to a mass shooting victim. It’s the second time this has happened - a fellow musician’s kids went to Sandy Hook.
re: #247 makeitstop
My wife just informed me that the nephew of a co-worker was one of the victims in the Dayton shooting.
I hate that even peripherally, we have a personal connection to a mass shooting victim. It’s the second time this has happened - a fellow musician’s kids went to Sandy Hook.
Had a cousin and many friends at VA Tech.
….this legislation with desperately needed immigration reform. We must have something good, if not GREAT, come out of these two tragic events!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 5, 2019
So what’s Trump’s solution to the mass shootings? Less immigrants.
You blamed the media.
You blamed video games.
You blamed everybody but yourself.
Look in the mirror today.
You have the power to heal a wound that you re-opened.
Will you stop describing Hispanic immigrants as ‘invaders’ as the terrorist did? https://t.co/O7zjACAW5M— Joaquin Castro (@JoaquinCastrotx) August 5, 2019
Don’t bother to look at your investment portfolio today. Your day is already crappy enough.
re: #241 Archangelus
Would that Twitter allowed for more chars to further rip into such gun nuts…
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10-1 odds that scope isn’t even sighted in to 3 feet of the target at 100 yards.
Hours after the El Paso shooting, Mitch McConnell proudly tweeted this photo. I find it so troubling that our politics have become so nasty and personal that the Senate Majority Leader thinks it’s appropriate to use imagery of the death of a political opponent (me) as messaging. pic.twitter.com/2x5kO5jwPi
— Amy McGrath (@AmyMcGrathKY) August 5, 2019
Trump’s Twitter activity demonstrates the completely emptiness of his speech.
The latter is him taking his medicine, squirming and uncomfortable. The former is specifically eating the stuff he’s not supposedly to.
re: #241 Archangelus
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It just occurred to me that it is quite ironic that the instant reaction from ammosexuals to calls for reasonable gun control is “You’re so smart…tell me the law that could have prevented this?” At the same time, these yahoos think that they can regulate anti-social, sociopathic/psyhopathic behavior, and racism out of existence.
And of course, the framing of this as a zero sum game is idiotc: well, if we can’t pass laws that will prevent ALL gun violence, then we shouldn’t do anything. Let’s tweak it to show how ridiculous it is: “well, we can’t have driving laws/design requirements that will prevent every accident/automobile injury, so we might as well do nothing”—-said no one ever.
re: #253 jaunte
Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but those gravestones are a little off in the height/width ratio for most gravestones.
It’s about the right ratio for a bullet though…
re: #255 Mike Lamb
It just occurred to me that it is quite ironic that the instant reaction from ammosexuals to calls for reasonable gun control is “You’re so smart…tell me the law that could have prevented this?” At the same time, these yahoos think that they can regulate anti-social, sociopathic/psyhopathic behavior, and racism out of existence.
And of course, the framing of this as a zero sum game is idiotc: well, if we can’t pass laws that will prevent ALL gun violence, then we shouldn’t do anything. Let’s tweak it to show how ridiculous it is: “well, we can’t have driving laws/design requirements that will prevent every accident/automobile injury, so we might as well do nothing”—-said no one ever.
Nah, want to show the ridiculousness of their framing? Ask them to spell out a single law that would end 100% of “illegal immigration.” Even Trump doesn’t believe that the edifice to his ego would be 100% effective.
re: #251 Flying Squirrel Girl
Don’t bother to look at your investment portfolio today. Your day is already crappy enough.
And let’s note that today’s freakout is not due to Trump’s actions, but entirely due to China’s. Whatever he’s gonna do in his ego-fueled need to one-up Beijing is gonna make today look downright cheerful.
Look what Dick Cheney did after playing Duck Hunt in the 1980s
— Roland Scahill (@rolandscahill) August 5, 2019
Let’s be very clear. You use the office of the presidency to encourage and embolden white supremacy. You use words like “infestation” and “invasion” to talk about human beings. We won’t truly speak with one voice against hatred until your voice is no longer in the White House. https://t.co/CW3wxxTm2E
— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) August 5, 2019
Toledo. Fck me.
Holy Toledo!
The Grim Reaper of Socialism at #FancyFarm today. #FancyFarm139 pic.twitter.com/KMKJifu3b5
— Team Mitch (@Team_Mitch) August 3, 2019
Just verifying. O’Connell’s official campaign account did indeed tweet that.
Narrator: Actually, he’ll be on to something else in 15 minutes.
The First Lady and I join all Americans in praying and grieving for the victims, their families, and the survivors. We will stand by their side FOREVER! pic.twitter.com/zOQLvAuXoh
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 5, 2019
So far, I’ve never met a wingnut who used the “mental illness” defense who didn’t think that the “solution” was to just lock them all up. Not better screening, not more programs to help them, not even spending on more counselors or better access to medications. Just throw them in the loony bin and lock the doors behind ya, because they’re “dangerous” and can’t be allowed out in public.
It goes without saying that none of them believe they’re in any way “mentally ill” because they don’t want to shoot anyone dead…today.
re: #264 Eclectic Cyborg
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No you don’t. You’ll forget all about them as you attack Hispanics.
re: #265 Targetpractice
So far, I’ve never met a wingnut who used the “mental illness” defense who didn’t think that the “solution” was to just lock them all up.
It was under Reagan that they started cancelling the residential programs and turning them loose.
re: #263 jaunte
Just verifying. O’Connell’s official campaign account did indeed tweet that.
McConnell?
re: #267 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It was under Reagan that they started cancelling the residential programs and turning them loose.
Ayep, though today they try to engage in historical revisionism by saying it was because they wanted to “restore rights” or “be humanitarian.” But the answer is (as ever) a purely political one: The cost of such programs was taking money from programs that conservatives supported.
re: #255 Mike Lamb
It just occurred to me that it is quite ironic that the instant reaction from ammosexuals to calls for reasonable gun control is “You’re so smart…tell me the law that could have prevented this?” At the same time, these yahoos think that they can regulate anti-social, sociopathic/psyhopathic behavior, and racism out of existence.
And of course, the framing of this as a zero sum game is idiotc: well, if we can’t pass laws that will prevent ALL gun violence, then we shouldn’t do anything. Let’s tweak it to show how ridiculous it is: “well, we can’t have driving laws/design requirements that will prevent every accident/automobile injury, so we might as well do nothing”—-said no one ever.
Gun control wont stop all gun crime.
Doing nothing - or continuing to allow the status quo - isn’t stopping crime. Allowing still more guns into the public sphere isn’t stopping crime, let alone gun death rates or mass shootings.
Know what can and does reduce gun death rates?
Fewer guns.
Stronger gun control.
How do we know this? There’s empirical evidence - states with strong gun laws have lower per capita death rates than lax gun law states. Texas has a far higher per capita rate than NY or CA. The NY or CA standard should be the national standard, reducing gun deaths and all the costs associated with it.
Foreign countries have lower per capita gun death rates too, even as they have higher video game usage and similar mental health issues.
It’s the guns, and everything else is a deflection.
Eliminate the sales of semi auto weapons, the high capacity magazines/clips, and tax the hell out of bullets. Require annual licensing and periodic training, just as you’d need for a car. Require insurance for when your gun gets used in a crime or misused. Apply negligence crimes when someone underage shoots themselves or someone else with a licensed gun owner’s gun that wasn’t properly stored and secured.
Even a fraction of those changes can reduce gun deaths, and every reduction in gun deaths is a cost that society does not bear in a police state, the costs for health care.
The health care cost is estimated in the US at $46 billion annually. That’s right - $46 billion. Reduce gun violence by 10% and you could save $4.6 billion nationally. That’s money that taxpayers and insureds are paying.
Reducing the nationwide gun death rate is not insurmountable. It’s doable - adopting the NY or CA or MA standards would help achieve those goals. Gun buybacks would help.
But the GOP does not care. They’ve worshipped the gun so long they don’t care about public health or national security.
White supremacy and mass shootings didn’t just start under Trump. Columbine shooters were white supremacists too. But what changed is that Trump is enabling and condoning with his explicit language, and we’re seeing an uptick in right wing domestic terrorism and targets that are chosen primarily because they are minorities, immigrants, or religious groups that aren’t white and/or Christian.
Trump’s the problem.
This feels like a horse is out of the barn argument, akin to saying gun control won’t work because we’re already awash in guns. Presenting the perfect as the enemy of the better is never a good look
— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) August 5, 2019
Important: Trump is now “on the record” for “condemning white supremacism”.
If there is a shooting that can be blamed on a Muslim or a confirmed leftist, he is going to go full medieval on them and claim that he is simply being “balanced”.
More good news.
UPDATE: Looks like @voxility just cut off all of Bitmitigate’s prefix at their edge routers, shutting down not only their customers but Epik’s corporate systems.
— Alex Stamos (@alexstamos) August 5, 2019
re: #265 Targetpractice
So far, I’ve never met a wingnut who used the “mental illness” defense who didn’t think that the “solution” was to just lock them all up. Not better screening, not more programs to help them, not even spending on more counselors or better access to medications. Just throw them in the loony bin and lock the doors behind ya, because they’re “dangerous” and can’t be allowed out in public.
It goes without saying that none of them believe they’re in any way “mentally ill” because they don’t want to shoot anyone dead…today.
“Mentally ill” is another one of those words that doesn’t mean anything when they say it.
It’s just a place-holder for whatever they need to fit in there.
Want to disavow someone taking wingnut logic to its violent conclusion? Mentally ill.
Want to dismiss a critic as fundamentally and incontrovertibly unserious? Mentally ill.
I suspect if they ever did apply themselves to defining mental illness, their standards would be like those of the Soviets….
I know how horribly painful it is to listen to Trump speak, but his monotone recitation of a teleprompter displaying 4 words at a time (because he is too vain to wear glasses) in between cocaine sniffs, tells you everything you need to know.
As often happen when Trump reads statements of this sort, he had a lot of trouble with his mouth. pic.twitter.com/yWIR5QIEvU
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 5, 2019
re: #276 The Pie Overlord!
I know how horribly painful it is to listen to Trump speak, but his monotone recitation of a teleprompter displaying 4 words at a time (because he is too vain to wear glasses) in between cocaine sniffs, tells you everything you need to know.
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So mental illness is the problem so execute them?
re: #274 NO SMOCKING GUN!
More good news.
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If you don’t know, Bitmitigate provides services to The Daily Stormer and Gab, and 8Chan was moving there.
re: #241 Archangelus
Would that Twitter allowed for more chars to further rip into such gun nuts…
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Seems that the initial tweet being ratioed to death wasn’t enough, she’s decided to double down:
LOL…apparently some trolls don’t like this tweet. Yes, my pickup is filthy because it’s a farm pickup and gets coated in straw & dust EVERY day. Yes my gun is in the front seat so in case I see a coyote or other varmint that plagues farmers. And it’s my right to own this gun. https://t.co/oW6yC6YDKj
— Marie Bowers (@MarieB41) August 5, 2019
But she may not have that rifle for much longer:
Yup, and the Police have been made aware and are taking action.
— Justice Crusader (@PatKCuse4ever) August 5, 2019
re: #280 Targetpractice
Seems that the initial tweet being ratioed to death wasn’t enough, she’s decided to double down:
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Owning the libs by tweeting yourself breaking the law.
re: #280 Targetpractice
Pwned. She really showed them.
re: #267 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It was under Reagan that they started cancelling the residential programs and turning them loose.
That was in large part because of a series of Supreme Court rulings from the mid-70s through the early-80s. Under O’Connor v Donaldson 422 U.S. 563 (1975) the Court held that a finding of mental illness was not enough to hold someone against their will. Addington v. Texas, 441 U.S. 418 (1979) raised the burden of proof to clear and convincing evidence for involuntary commitment. Those are just two in a whole series of cases that ultimately led to many people being “released from mental institutions.”
This is Vinnie. He had his first nightmare last night. Catching pup on those missed snoozles. 12/10 much more comfy now pic.twitter.com/RCixD3HGrl
— WeRateDogs™ (@dog_rates) August 5, 2019
re: #280 Targetpractice
Seems that the initial tweet being ratioed to death wasn’t enough, she’s decided to double down:
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re: #277 HappyWarrior
So mental illness is the problem so execute them?
I think we all know by now that if Donny actually does pursue this shit, “mental illness” will magically be stretched to encompass every group that he personally opposes.
re: #286 The Pie Overlord!
I did not know straw and dust came in chip bags and Pepsi cups.
me either…apparently I do farm truck all wrong
— mikeo188 (@mikeo188) August 5, 2019
This is disgusting. The rightwing disinformation machine is in full Attack Kamala mode. She is fundraising FOR GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION GROUPS.
Damn straight she is going to help fund the fight against gun violence in the wake of these horrific mass shootings. pic.twitter.com/zojnbKHoCE— Ian Sams (@IanSams) August 5, 2019
re: #242 HappyWarrior
Leave guns alone! But treat all
people with mental illnessmales with white skin like future murderers.
re: #275 The Ghost of a Flea
“Mentally ill” is another one of those words that doesn’t mean anything when they say it.
It’s just a place-holder for whatever they need to fit in there.
Want to disavow someone taking wingnut logic to its violent conclusion? Mentally ill.
Want to dismiss a critic as fundamentally and incontrovertibly unserious? Mentally ill.I suspect if they ever did apply themselves to defining mental illness, their standards would be like those of the Soviets….
I hear that from my family quite a bit… “they’re sick” or “they’re crazy”… and when I point out that, no, in fact, they left a manifesto proclaiming their beliefs, I get “you have to be crazy to shoot up a bunch of people like that.”
Personally think the most egregious bit of that photo, as someone else noted in the original tweet thread, that the dust cover is hanging open. Consider AR-15s are notoriously finicky about being kept clean, she’s just asking for a jam at the absolute worst moment.
re: #286 The Pie Overlord!
I did not know straw and dust came in chip bags and Pepsi cups.
I did not know that someone needed a semi-automatic AR-15 clone to deal with varmits.
My brother-in-law living in Colorado had a rifle for dealing with coyotes, etc. Was a simple bolt action rifle that fires the same .223 (5.56mm) round as that rifle. Has a scope and it is perfectly functional for the necessary role. Odds are that if you miss with the first round the target is running very rapidly away from you and you are not going to hit it by tossing more lead downrange at it.
re: #292 KGxvi
I hear that from my family quite a bit… “they’re sick” or “they’re crazy”… and when I point out that, no, in fact, they left a manifesto proclaiming their beliefs, I get “you have to be crazy to shoot up a bunch of people like that.”
That’s the single-minded bit they always spout: “Only somebody who’s crazy would want to kill other people!” But once you actually start providing examples of professions where you will be called upon to kill other people, the bar suddenly shoots into the fucking stratosphere.
The pivot to blaming video games—long term, not just recently—is also interesting because its reminiscent of how fascist hierarchy expands qualification for membership to gain power, then contracts membership when it has what it wants.
Also, given what we’ve seen from Gamergate, if this statement is sincere you’re losing out on…sad twats that will probably stay in the fold because they’re just reactionary-gross in spite of their cultivated “gamer” identity .
re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth
How dare libtards raise money on such a tragedy ALSO DONATE MORE MONEYS TO POTUS AFTER IMMIGRANT ENTERS US!!!
“I’m too busy watching what he’s doing to hear what he’s saying.” pic.twitter.com/4QE5NVZY5n
— Ian Sams (@IanSams) August 5, 2019
Actions v. empty platitudes.
Trump’s actions: enable white supremacists and right wing domestic terorrists
Trump’s empty platitudes: condemn said white supremacists and tie immigration reform to gun control
Trump actions: tying immigration to gun control, he gives white supremacists best of both - knowing no gun control will happen and signaling intent to further white supremacist agenda of denying nonwhites right to immigrate here legally.
re: #294 Feline Fearless Leader
I did not know that someone needed a semi-automatic AR-15 clone to deal with varmits.
My brother-in-law living in Colorado had a rifle for dealing with coyotes, etc. Was a simple bolt action rifle that fires the same .223 (5.56mm) round as that rifle. Has a scope and it is perfectly functional for the necessary role. Odds are that if you miss with the first round the target is running very rapidly away from you and you are not going to hit it by tossing more lead downrange at it.
IMHO, if you can’t get them with the first shot, especially if you shell out for a scope that’s probably worth more than the gun it’s mounted to, then you’re a piss-poor marksman and shouldn’t be trusted with anything more lethal than a water pistol. Unless she’s dealing with coyotes wearing body armor, then I’m guessing that 30rd mag is because she thinks putting more lead downrange is the way to compensate.
I posted this to Facebook:
It’s a simple IF:THEN equation.
IF you insist that the current system of easy access to increasingly deadly weapons must be maintained, THEN you are accepting the current reality of daily mass shootings as an acceptable price to pay for that access.
You can try to blame all sorts of other things, but really - lots and lots of other countries have all those things. But they don’t have semiautomatic rifles and high-cap magazines available to any one who manages to reach the age of 18 without being convicted of a felony.
20 first graders murdered in Sandy Hook; 59 concertgoers murdered in Las Vegas; 9 black churchgoers murdered in South Carolina; 11 Jews murdered at temple in Pittsburgh; 20 murdered at Walmart in El Paso; 9 murdered in Dayton. If you insist on keeping the current system, you are saying these are an acceptable price to pay for your convenience.
Donald Trump cares so little about mass shootings that he says it happened in the wrong city (“Toledo”).
What’s worse, he seemingly read it off the teleprompter, meaning the entire White House didn’t care enough to get it right, either.pic.twitter.com/OKLVs6nj5V— VoteVets (@votevets) August 5, 2019
re: #304 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
I thought it was a still from a trailer for “The London Job”.
;)
OY!
^DJI 25,775.83 -709.18 -2.68%
The circuit breakers wouldn’t kick in unless we get 7% drop, which would pause the markets.
Trade war woes.
Go figure. Trump’s watching the 1/3 of the stock market gains from 2019 go poof in an afternoon.
re: #255 Mike Lamb
It just occurred to me that it is quite ironic that the instant reaction from ammosexuals to calls for reasonable gun control is “You’re so smart…tell me the law that could have prevented this?” At the same time, these yahoos think that they can regulate anti-social, sociopathic/psyhopathic behavior, and racism out of existence.
And of course, the framing of this as a zero sum game is idiotc: well, if we can’t pass laws that will prevent ALL gun violence, then we shouldn’t do anything. Let’s tweak it to show how ridiculous it is: “well, we can’t have driving laws/design requirements that will prevent every accident/automobile injury, so we might as well do nothing”—-said no one ever.
The goal is to reduce the overall number of deaths over time
And nothing can predict or prevent the next mass shooting, ever
More info for our legal eagles:
Yeah, I called the Coburg Police Department this morning and asked about the legality of this. They stated that a rifle must be “inaccessible” when being transported in a motor vehicle. They gave me their e-mail and I sent them screenshots.
— Justice Crusader (@PatKCuse4ever) August 5, 2019
re: #292 KGxvi
I hear that from my family quite a bit… “they’re sick” or “they’re crazy”… and when I point out that, no, in fact, they left a manifesto proclaiming their beliefs, I get “you have to be crazy to shoot up a bunch of people like that.”
This is the thing that people seem to have a whole lot of trouble understanding.
As people have said, mental illness is a very wide umbrella. I have one of the nastier ones and I know how bad it can get. Some of these shooters may very well have had an illness underneath it. But that doesn’t mean the mental illness causes the behavior. It can be expressed 1,000 different ways. Some of us start seeing things and hearing voices. Some get paranoid. Some get suicidal. They don’t pick up guns and start killing, even at their sickest. Because they have not latched onto these ideologies and grievances, even when sanity is in flux.
So why do these white males choose to express the mental illness they (might) carry via well planned-out attacks with military-style guns and body armor with manifestos and symbolic intent? Well….gee. What could they be latching onto?
Getting someone into treatment (which is not what is being proposed for these shooters) would not “fix them.” They’re not sick like I am. You can’t give someone lithium for white supremacy.
So we’ve all said this but as someone who understands mental illness more than i would ever want to, who grew up surrounded by it, who works with the mentally ill every day, you can’t medicate hate or resolve it in therapy.
And now for something completely different… it definitely put a smile on my face (and listen to the commentary too…)
Bath Time is REAL 😂😂😂 pic.twitter.com/Fa73iMK52b
— Dulo Folarin Harris (@iamDULO) August 4, 2019
re: #306 lawhawk
OY!
The circuit breakers wouldn’t kick in unless we get 7% drop, which would pause the markets.
Trade war woes.
Go figure. Trump’s watching the 1/3 of the stock market gains from 2019 go poof in an afternoon.
In addition to China devaluing their currency, I saw a rumor that the government was instructing state buyers not to buy US agricultural products. Anyone seen confirmation of that?
re: #265 Targetpractice
So far, I’ve never met a wingnut who used the “mental illness” defense who didn’t think that the “solution” was to just lock them all up. Not better screening, not more programs to help them, not even spending on more counselors or better access to medications. Just throw them in the loony bin and lock the doors behind ya, because they’re “dangerous” and can’t be allowed out in public.
It goes without saying that none of them believe they’re in any way “mentally ill” because they don’t want to shoot anyone dead…today.
No not because they’re dangerous
Because it’s a simplistic solution that doesn’t affect *them*
re: #301 Targetpractice
I’m surrounded by coyotes in my little bit of rural Texas, and they are not willing to stick around at all, much less threaten to attack, if they see or smell a human walking around.
re: #311 Blind Frog Belly White
Confirmed. Trump’s idiotic trade war is fucking over his farm base.
China is stepping away from further U.S. farm imports after President Donald Trump ratcheted up tensions with its biggest agricultural trading partner last week.
The Chinese government has asked its state-owned enterprises to suspend purchases of U.S. agricultural products, people familiar with the situation said. Also, privately run Chinese crushers that had received retaliatory-tariff waivers on American soybeans from Beijing have stopped buying the commodity due to uncertainty over trade relations, other people said.
Chinese buyers have turned to South America for more of their supplies after Trump on Thursday proposed adding 10% tariffs on another $300 billion in imports from Sept. 1, marking an abrupt escalation of the trade war between the world’s largest economies shortly after the two sides restarted talks. Bureaucrats in Beijing were stunned by Trump’s announcement, according to Chinese officials who’ve been involved in the trade talks, and Beijing has pledged to respond if the U.S. insists on adding the extra tariffs.
China’s state-run agricultural firms have now stopped buying American farm goods, and are waiting to see how talks progress, the people said, declining to be identified as they’re not authorized to speak to the media. Meanwhile, the private crushers haven’t received notices from the government on any policy change since the U.S. escalated tensions last Thursday, people said.
El Paso shooter: “This attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas.”
Tomi Lahren today: We shouldn’t assign blame or point fingers about this
Lahren 3 months ago: This isn’t just a migrant caravan, this is an invasion. Every American watching should be infuriated
🤔 pic.twitter.com/xoLDYp8YdE— Lis Power (@LisPower1) August 5, 2019
re: #315 DodgerFan1988
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Fuck her. She’s been pushing the same nativist crap the killer did. You own part of this Tomi.
re: #313 jaunte
I’m surrounded by coyotes in my little bit of rural Texas, and they are not willing to stick around at all, much less threaten to attack, if they see or smell a human walking around.
She has even less reason to fear coyotes because she’s a grass seed farmer. So if she’s shooting coyotes, odds are it’s not in protection of livestock or her family.
re: #317 Targetpractice
She has even less reason to fear coyotes because she’s a grass seed farmer. So if she’s shooting coyotes, odds are it’s not in protection of livestock or her family.
Coburg is 10 mile from U of O. Dangerous liberals and students live in Eugene Oregon. Scary.
re: #317 Targetpractice
Seed farmer? She’d want the coyotes there to go after voles, prairie dogs, and other burrowing critters that could undermine her farmed goods. Seems rather counterproductive to kill the critters that keep vermin in check.
re: #315 DodgerFan1988
It’s real simple: What is the proper response to an “invasion” of “rapists, murderers, drug dealers, and gang members” that the government can’t stop? You shoot them. So, you can’t use that rhetoric and then say you’re shocked - shocked! - to find anti-immigrant violence going on here.
re: #320 Blind Frog Belly White
It’s real simple: What is the proper response to an “invasion” of “rapists, murderers, drug dealers, and gang members” that the government can’t stop? You shoot them. So, you can’t use that rhetoric and then say you’re shocked - shocked! - to find anti-immigrant violence going on here.
And Trump has even humored people in his crowds who suggest that. They own this.
re: #319 lawhawk
Seed farmer? She’d want the coyotes there to go after voles, prairie dogs, and other burrowing critters that could undermine her farmed goods. Seems rather counterproductive to kill the critters that keep vermin in check.
Varmint hunting can be much like the zombie targets that are popular in certain circles, especially when president Obama’s face is on them. Pure racist wish fulfillment.
re: #311 Blind Frog Belly White
In addition to China devaluing their currency, I saw a rumor that the government was instructing state buyers not to buy US agricultural products. Anyone seen confirmation of that?
No confirmation, but Czech media is reporting the same thing.
You know, who could have predicated that electing a failed businessman could lead to instability in the global financial markets. If only there has been some detectable pattern of behavior that could have predicted this outcome.
Everything this guy has touched has failed.
I’m gonna go out on a limb here: Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States, is likely going to be remembered as the President who crashed the US economy and started the second Great Depression.
I’m predicting Dow under 12,000, at minimum 9% unemployment, and an average of 500,000 to 750,000 job losses per month by Election Day 2020.
And there isn’t a goddamn thing anybody will be able to do about it.
Fucking incompetent white supremacists.
The White House just sent out the official transcript of Trump’s remarks this morning on El Paso and Dayton with an edit pic.twitter.com/gdR1yz8cwf
— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) August 5, 2019
STOP. He did not. STOP.
— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) August 5, 2019
re: #324 lawhawk
Trump’s addled brain saw Texas and Ohio coming up in the prompter and mashed it into “Toledo.”
asshat
Today, I am also directing the Department of Justice to propose legislation ensuring that those who commit hate crimes and mass murders face the DEATH PENALTY - and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay. pic.twitter.com/BDXdpelK7F
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 5, 2019
re: #322 William Lewis
Varmint hunting can be much like the zombie targets that are popular in certain circles, especially when president Obama’s face is on them. Pure racist wish fulfillment.
Well, but livestock breaking legs in gopher holes is an actual problem. My friend in Santa Maria showed me a couple places on the cattle ranch where he had hunting permission where the ground squirrel colonies had completely swiss-cheesed a hillside. But he used a scoped bolt-action .223 off a rest for that, not an AR15.
WRT coyotes, some places they are afraid of people. Others, they aren’t. there were a number of aggressive coyote encounters on a nearby trail, because the coyotes have no particular reason to fear humans there.
I’ve an elder cousin who owns his own little plot of land out in the middle of nowhere, KY. And he also has a collection of various rifles, both of the bolt-action and semi-auto variety. But he’s also an avid hunter and keeps his rifles locked up in a gun safe when they’re not being used. Though he did boast one time about shooting a deer that had strayed onto his property from his bathroom…which I chalk up to being a redneck. And while he has shot the odd coyote or two, it was after they strayed onto his property and presented a danger to his family.
I’ve never known for him to drive around with a loaded rifle on the passenger seat, and if I ever learned he did such would probably be compelled to smack some damned sense into him. That’s assuming our grandmother didn’t get to his fool ass first.
re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth
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— waltb31 (@waltb31) August 5, 2019
re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Yes, it was certainly a new tone…flat, disinterested, and totally full of shit.
re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth
asshat
Strangely, no white person will ever be convicted of a hate crime. Blacks, on the other hand, will have any shooting of a white person (note not plural) declared a mass murder hate crime.
Laura Loomer’s plan for her first day in office: stalk @AOC, follow her into an elevator and yell at her while recording it.
(Narrator: actually, she won’t have a first day in office.) https://t.co/vUbR4RrLmI— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 5, 2019
re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth
Yeah, he set a different tone - monotone, flat affect, reading the teleprompter because he had to.
Just wait a day or two till he hears the media criticizing his insincerity. His old tone will be back with a vengeance.
re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth
He read what the fucking idiot advisers posted to the teleprompter. They’re just as incompetent as Trump.
re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth
Words can’t express my utter contempt for him.
re: #308 Targetpractice
Thing I’ve observed about the people in this country that are most confident and vocal about carrying firearms is that they ultimately decide they don’t have to follow the basics rule of safe handling.
The conclusion I’ve come to is that they’ve become so deeply engaged with the symbolism of guns, and thus the “meaning” of carrying that they’ve almost completely disengaged from the fact its a tool…with necessary precautions for safe use…and specifically a tool for killing…which you might think would merit pause and deeper consideration of safety.
But it doesn’t because it’s all about the ego trip. Hence the posturing and posing; hence the number of variations on “Hypothetically I’m protecting you, you better show deference” statements but also “I’m prepared to kill, aren’t you intimidated?” statements. For a bunch of these folks, negligence can’t happen because “gun person” is their cultivated identity—a fixed trait—independent of the actual daily grind of safely handling a firearm and the completely separate task of training how to use it properly in embedded circumstances.
(and all that’s separate from the fucked up way that “right to bear arms” has becomes a euphemism for “entitlement to kill, in keeping with reactionary hierarchy” that also makes these people dangerous)
re: #335 Charles Johnson
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re: #335 Charles Johnson
I thought she’d be a *little* less up-front that this was just a stunt to try to get back on Twitter/Facebook.
re: #328 Blind Frog Belly White
Well, but livestock breaking legs in gopher holes is an actual problem. My friend in Santa Maria showed me a couple places on the cattle ranch where he had hunting permission where the ground squirrel colonies had completely swiss-cheesed a hillside. But he used a scoped bolt-action .223 off a rest for that, not an AR15.
WRT coyotes, some places they are afraid of people. Others, they aren’t. there were a number of aggressive coyote encounters on a nearby trail, because the coyotes have no particular reason to fear humans there.
My brother-in-law raised horses. So he was plinking ground squirrels and marmots with the .223 (or a .22 LR for some). And he initially left the badgers alone since they ate the squirrels until their burrows became a threat as well.
My brother and I on walks encountered coyotes or foxes a few times and left them alone since they were hunting the ground squirrels as well. Had one once come within 20’ of us since we were down wind and had gone still when we saw it. At that range my brother said ‘bang’ and the coyote took off like it had been fired out of a cannon.
re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth
“Today, I am also directing the Department of Justice to propose legislation ensuring that those who commit hate crimes and mass murders face the DEATH PENALTY - and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay.”
Because people who go out to commit mass murder, generally expecting to be killed in the process, will be deterred by the fear of being killed humanely years later.
re: #294 Feline Fearless Leader
I did not know that someone needed a semi-automatic AR-15 clone to deal with varmits.
My brother-in-law living in Colorado had a rifle for dealing with coyotes, etc. Was a simple bolt action rifle that fires the same .223 (5.56mm) round as that rifle. Has a scope and it is perfectly functional for the necessary role. Odds are that if you miss with the first round the target is running very rapidly away from you and you are not going to hit it by tossing more lead downrange at it.
Sure. Now bolt action rifles are the best and most versatile hunting rifles out there. But they didn’t become popular till army exposure in WWI. Yet semiautomatic rifles did not have the same surge after WWII because bolt actions were cheaper and better.
Now the manufacturers push “modern sporting rifles ” based on the AR pattern as the replacement for the bolt actions that cost more to make and don’t wear out as fast. They need the market, lots of young porple are primed to think an AR is appropriate for hunting from video games movies and even endless tours in the military.
Banning any rifle with a removable magazine and that holds more than 10 rounds would be a great place to start.
I have a super good idea for the President and every Republican who have become interested today in making our mental system better.
wait for it…wait for it…
STOP YOUR LAWSUIT TO OVERTURN THE ACA, ENDING MENTAL HEALTH COVERAGE FOR 20M PEOPLE!
That would be a nice start.— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) August 5, 2019
re: #344 Blind Frog Belly White
Because people who go out to commit mass murder, generally expecting to be killed in the process, will be deterred by the fear of being killed humanely years later.
Hence the “without years of needless delay.” I’m rather curious just how he intends to get such a law past SCOTUS without relying upon pack loyalty.
Another totally normal Trump fan weighs in. pic.twitter.com/wKnsdmEw1A
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) August 5, 2019
re: #340 The Ghost of a Flea
Thing I’ve observed about the people in this country that are most confident and vocal about carrying firearms is that they ultimately decide they don’t have to follow the basics rule of safe handling.
The conclusion I’ve come to is that they’ve become so deeply engaged with the symbolism of guns, and thus the “meaning” of carrying that they’ve almost completely disengaged from the fact its a tool…with necessary precautions for safe use…and specifically a tool for killing…which you might think would merit pause and deeper consideration of safety.
But it doesn’t because it’s all about the ego trip. Hence the posturing and posing; hence the number of variations on “Hypothetically I’m protecting you, you better show deference” statements but also “I’m prepared to kill, aren’t you intimidated?” statements. For a bunch of these folks, negligence can’t happen because “gun person” is their cultivated identity—a fixed trait—independent of the actual daily grind of safely handling a firearm and the completely separate task of training how to use it properly in embedded circumstances.
(and all that’s separate from the fucked up way that “right to bear arms” has becomes a euphemism for “entitlement to kill, in keeping with reactionary hierarchy” that also makes these people dangerous)
100%
And that’s why we can’t even get them to agree to “control your weapon at all times” and “take total personal responsibility when you don’t”
The New York Times has a story up on the struggles faced by the FBI in getting lawmakers and the current administration to take the threat of domestic terrorism seriously, but it’s the quotes by former FBI terrorism-case supervisor Dave Gomez that are the most chilling. Referring explicitly to the “white supremacist movement,” Gomez tells the Times, “There’s some reluctance among agents to bring forth an investigation that targets what the president perceives as his base. It’s a no-win situation for the FBI agent or supervisor.”
re: #328 Blind Frog Belly White
Key phrase ” can be”.
Her grass doesn’t fear broken legs but rodents are a threat to her crop
‘Yotes eat said rodents.
She just enjoys killing.
re: #348 Charles Johnson
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That’s not a misspelling. And man Trumpers are a creepy bunch. HE LOVES US!
re: #338 lawhawk
He read what the fucking idiot advisers posted to the teleprompter. They’re just as incompetent as Trump.
His is nearsighted but too vain to wear glasses, so the teleprompter displays no more than 4 words at a time in the largest font available. He reads in a monotone because he doesn’t know the context & is too lazy to read the speech ahead of time.
Did I mention that he’s probably dyslexic?
re: #345 William Lewis
Sure. Now bolt action rifles are the best and most versatile hunting rifles out there. But they didn’t become popular till army exposure in WWI. Yet semiautomatic rifles did not have the same surge after WWII because bolt actions were cheaper and better.
Now the manufacturers push “modern sporting rifles ” based on the AR pattern as the replacement for the bolt actions that cost more to make and don’t wear out as fast. They need the market, lots of young porple are primed to think an AR is appropriate for hunting from video games movies and even endless tours in the military.
Banning any rifle with a removable magazine and that holds more than 10 rounds would be a great place to start.
I was shocked to learn what the Dayton shooter was using - that double-drum, 100 round magazine. What’s the reasoning behind that even being legal?
re: #348 Charles Johnson
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Have to read that like it was said: in one breath of helium.
re: #354 Blind Frog Belly White
I was shocked to learn what the Dayton shooter was using - that double-drum, 100 round magazine. What’s the reasoning behind that even being legal?
Freedumb
re: #348 Charles Johnson
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If that’s not a Russian troll, it’s an amazing facsimile.
Mass shootings didn’t happen in the 1950s and 1960s?
Who the fuck makes this shit up?
Did they happen with the same regularity? Nope, because there were far fewer guns and far fewer weapons like the AR-15 in wide circulation.
The NRA and the gun makers made ever more dangerous weapons available for mass usage (and carnage).
Speaking of varmints, I just found a ripe tomato (just starting to blush!) ON THE GROUND WITH BITE MARKS IN IT, probably from the fucking badgers who live underneath the back deck.
They bit into it, then spit it out just to fuck with me.
re: #357 Targetpractice
If that’s not a Russian troll, it’s an amazing facsimile.
Yeah I like how getting Toledo messed up with Dayton is “code.” Oh it’s code all right. Code that Trump and his administration are lazy jackasses.
Christ, men, get it together. https://t.co/7rRB6fD2x8
— David Roberts (@drvox) August 5, 2019
re: #351 William Lewis
Key phrase ” can be”.
Her grass doesn’t fear broken legs but rodents are a threat to her crop
‘Yotes eat said rodents.She just enjoys killing.
Yotes eat housecats and will attack and kill even larger dogs. And just because you are a seed farmer doesn’t mean you don’t have your own chickens.
Basically I don’t think this line of argument is productive.
The congresswoman, who represents El Paso, just said President Trump is “not welcome” to visit https://t.co/QaHWlj60mO
— Jonathan Lemire (@JonLemire) August 5, 2019
Now he’ll force himself on her.
re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth
O’Donnell is getting ratioed to hell and back on that Tweet.
re: #358 lawhawk
Mass shootings didn’t happen in the 1950s and 1960s?
Who the fuck makes this shit up?
Did they happen with the same regularity? Nope, because there were far fewer guns and far fewer weapons like the AR-15 in wide circulation.
The NRA and the gun makers made ever more dangerous weapons available for mass usage (and carnage).
Nothing bad happened until we banned prayer.//
re: #354 Blind Frog Belly White
I was shocked to learn what the Dayton shooter was using - that double-drum, 100 round magazine. What’s the reasoning behind that even being legal?
Becauz the Frounding Fawthers! sez so!!! shall not be infringed!!!! Suk, it. libtartd!!
re: #359 The Pie Overlord!
Nuke it from orbit. Just to be sure. /there’s no killing like overkilling
re: #363 jaunte
He’s going to be tempted to attack her city.
re: #365 HappyWarrior
The Almighty, Creator and inherent in all things, was “chased from the public square.”
The disconnect between blaming “mental health” while advocating for less due process is pretty glaring.
— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) August 5, 2019
re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Sadly, this is really easy to believe. I mean, Trump’s making money selling plastic straws to his followers to prove they’re manly men who don’t care about the environment.
Hillary wouldn’t have said “Toledo.”
Then again, she wouldn’t have tweeted from the golf course during a day of national mourning either.@realDonaldTrump https://t.co/SSj9IYi3Ku#Toledo#TelePrompTer— John Pavlovitz (@johnpavlovitz) August 5, 2019
re: #359 The Pie Overlord!
That’s some serious dirty pool.
re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth
The implication being most straight guys are environmentally wasteful assholes who would love nothing more than to roll coal in their front yard.
JFC.
They could have put “sour pickles need to be dipped in Miracle Whip and shoved in my underwear” on the TelePrompTer and Trump would have read it today.
— Tony Posnanski (@tonyposnanski) August 5, 2019
re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth
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In my case, it’s not that I fear being viewed as “gay,” it’s because my short term memory would make a goldfish laugh. I’ve gone to the store on numerous occasions only to realize I left the damned bags at home.
re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth
New research suggests that some men avoid “green” behavior —like using a reusable shopping bag at the grocery store— because they don’t want to be perceived as gay. bit.ly
We have been raised to express our manhood and our patriotism in terms of how many resources we consume.
re: #359 The Pie Overlord!
Speaking of varmints, I just found a ripe tomato (just starting to blush!) ON THE GROUND WITH BITE MARKS IN IT, probably from the fucking badgers who live underneath the back deck.
They bit into it, then spit it out just to fuck with me.
Two words: Scorched Earth.
re: #369 lawhawk
Nuke it from orbit. Just to be sure. /there’s no killing like overkilling
Maxim 37: There is no overkill; there is only “Open Fire” and “I need to reload.”
re: #359 The Pie Overlord!
Speaking of varmints, I just found a ripe tomato (just starting to blush!) ON THE GROUND WITH BITE MARKS IN IT, probably from the fucking badgers who live underneath the back deck.
They bit into it, then spit it out just to fuck with me.
Wolverines are good at destroying Badgers.
:)
re: #382 William Lewis
Maxim 37: There is no overkill; there is only “Open Fire” and “I need to reload.”
MOAR DAKKA!
re: #359 The Pie Overlord!
Speaking of varmints, I just found a ripe tomato (just starting to blush!) ON THE GROUND WITH BITE MARKS IN IT, probably from the fucking badgers who live underneath the back deck.
They bit into it, then spit it out just to fuck with me.
Badgers? We don’t need no steenkin’ badgers!
re: #378 Backwoods_Sleuth
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They could have put “sour pickles need to be dipped in Miracle Whip and shoved in my underwear” on the TelePrompTer and Trump would have read it today.
— Tony Posnanski (@tonyposnanski) August 5, 2019
re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth
Today, I am also directing the Department of Justice to propose legislation ensuring that those who commit hate crimes and mass murders face the DEATH PENALTY - and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay.
The DOJ proposing legislation? Really?
Deliver death quickly (which assumes decisively) and without any, ya know, legal appeals and all that.
Constitution…bah! Old piece of paper. Let me wipe my ass with it.
re: #383 Dr. Matt
Except when it involves a ball…
re: #386 DangerMan
Winner winner….
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“The White House Reception Committee greeted the Prime rib roast Minister, and I do the cha-cha like a sissy girl. I “lika”… do… da cha-cha.”
re: #380 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
We have been raised to express our manhood and our patriotism in terms of how many resources we consume.
re: #383 Dr. Matt
Wolverines are good at destroying Badgers.
:)
Yeah no, not bringing a pack of Wolverines into my yard.
Some Spartans maybe?
re: #391 jaunte
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“Let your eyes glaze over as you look at this “farmhouse” - the more you look at it the less sense it makes. What are they farming, you ask? Why, turf grass of course!”mcmansionhell.com
“MORE COWBELL GABLES!”
“I have five children. I am here so that they can live in a free country. I’m not afraid.”
We filmed all sorts of people caught up in the violence in Moscow — protesters, passers-by, and even a member of the pro-Kremlin United Russia party. Via @currenttimetv pic.twitter.com/C3w1mWODDj— Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (@RFERL) August 5, 2019
re: #364 Eclectic Cyborg
O’Donnell is getting ratioed to hell and back on that Tweet.
Hard to fathom making the decision to retweet a post where you are getting ratio’d like this pic.twitter.com/gt6v5T4ex2
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 5, 2019
re: #394 The Pie Overlord!
The House of Eleventy Gables
This is why, when I was Back East for Dad’s memorial, I was drooling over old houses, mostly the big, square brick sort like the one I grew up in. I decided, if we move back there when I retire, and we get a bigger house, it needs to have a foyer and formal entry hall with staircase and French doors leading to LR and DR on opposite sides. No negotiation.
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Rep. Nadler on Pres. Trump: “He can’t go lower than he’s been. To link, these shootings were clearly in part result of his racist rhetoric. That’s clear. His divisive and racist rhetoric. People have warned they would lead to violence and now they have.”https://t.co/zVBKE5mlaU
— MSNBC (@MSNBC) August 5, 2019
#MassacreMitch are these your people? The future of our nation? Seem like really nice kids. pic.twitter.com/dIzvNtBLpW
— Jackie Smith (@Smith22Jackie) August 5, 2019
Future Harassers of America
re: #390 Blind Frog Belly White
“The White House Reception Committee greeted the Prime rib roast Minister, and I do the cha-cha like a sissy girl. I “lika”… do… da cha-cha.”
mrs dm said he’d read “”sour pickles need to” - because it’s 4 words, and would have no idea what he said or (of course) what was coming next
heh
How long will it take Rodney Howard-Browne to delete this tweet once he realizes these are all anchors at stations owned by right-wing Sinclair Broadcast Group? https://t.co/C8mUA9zbXw https://t.co/06llWAEPTG pic.twitter.com/2XSXMkrCO4
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) August 5, 2019
re: #398 DangerMan
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When The Younger Boy was, well - younger, we got him a Red Eared Slider, because he loved turtles. It was just a small thing, no more than 2” across the carapace.
Then we learned you really need a serious aquarium filter/pump with those guys, so we got that.
Then he got bigger. And we got another one, because a friend had one her kids no longer cared about.
They got bigger. And bigger. Now they’re the size of soup plates. We have them in separate big-ass tanks, with big-ass filter/pump things.
Mrs. FBW thought, a couple years back, that we should just build a pond in the back yard for them. She and the boys started digging one, thinking all you need to do is dig a hole and fill it with water.
So, being a researcher, I started researching what you ACTUALLY need to do to make a pond for a couple soup plate-sized RES’s. You need a liner. You need some containment for the turtles themselves. You need deep areas for them to get away from racketycoons, and a beach for them to pull themselves up onto, to dry out and sunbathe. You need an EVEN BIGGER filter/pump. And you have to figure out how you’re going to hide the electrical cords you need to run the thing.
That put the kibosh on the pond. But we still have the hole - a 1’ deep, 10’ wide depression in the yard.
re: #400 jaunte
Looks like a loaf of spoiled white bread.
re: #342 jimmyvluv4u
I thought she’d be a *little* less up-front that this was just a stunt to try to get back on Twitter/Facebook.
Once a troll, always a troll.
re: #328 Blind Frog Belly White
WRT coyotes, some places they are afraid of people. Others, they aren’t. there were a number of aggressive coyote encounters on a nearby trail, because the coyotes have no particular reason to fear humans there.
When we went to Nova Scotia a couple of years ago, they had warning signs about what to do if you run into coyotes on the beach. Apparently, Canadian coyotes ain’t afraid of no hoomins.
The kitty is not pleased with the salad on offer.
boomers are at it again #VideogamesAreNotToBlame pic.twitter.com/bl4B4IrWjW
— burfle (@basedburfle) August 5, 2019
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