The Great Tommy Emmanuel: “Lenny Bro” (Live)

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1
William Lewis  Aug 4, 2019 • 11:53:35pm

Ok, so I pulled up 8chan for S&G and about died laughing. All caps mind…

“Orange Jew to Deliver Gun Control Speech Tomorrow.” on their /pol channel so he probably was stupid enough to actually mean it!

I about soiled myself I was laughing so hard. I mean, even by 8chan standards of shit posting, that’s beyond stupidly unbelievable. With that laugh, it’s time to drop the curtain on those morons and call it a night.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 4, 2019 • 11:59:20pm

The wingnut publisher of my regional newspaper is at it again in an editorial.

RICH MACKE: Baltimore Sun editorial, blatantly irresponsible (Goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald opinion page):

After reading the editorial which ran in the Baltimore Sun last weekend, I just sat and shook my head.

Although I agree with the editorial that the comments President Trump made last week toward the city of Baltimore and its citizens were wrong, the editorial printed in the Baltimore Sun on the 27th was just as bad, if not worse. A copy of this editorial is also printed on the Star-Herald Opinion page for those who have not seen it.

The newspaper industry fights enough accusations of being biased without publishing personal attacks that are borderline libelous. This was completely irresponsible by the Baltimore Sun and does not do our industry, or our nation, any good.

Hey, Mr. Mack, about personal attacks that are borderline libelous… .

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 5, 2019 • 12:03:32am

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹🎃

He then goes on with a baffling array of statistics which are Duane Gish-worthy. The column would be impossible to refute in the number of words (four hundred) that the Letters to the Editor allows.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 5, 2019 • 12:05:13am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 5, 2019 • 12:09:38am

re: #4 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Gish Gallops seem to be the thing today.

All that disrespect she talks about? Yeah, that’s all projection. Had to get an Obama in there. Surprised she didn’t strawman socialism. She’s falling off her GOP game there.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 5, 2019 • 12:12:58am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 5, 2019 • 12:15:44am

re: #4 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Another Republican snowflake. Also, ignoring the courts seems to be a thing with Republican officials who don’t want to interact with their constituents (because again, snowflake).

She could just ignore her office telephone like most Republicans.

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 12:55:13am

re: #4 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I only ever notice this “breakdown of the moral fabric of society” BS is only spouted by wingnuts when it’s a white gunman they want to make excuses for.

When a black man is involved, suddenly it’s an indictment of the entire black community, for which we get the “Pound Cake speech” and endless recitations of Dr. King snippets totally divorced from their original context.

Hispanic? The automatic assumption that they must be “illegal” and thus a symbol of the need for a “strong border” and “tough laws.”

And if he’s Arabic, then get ready for a long lecture about the “evils” of Islam and how every single follower is either a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer.

But a white guy? No, it’s not the gunman, it’s society to blame, which means it’s “liberals” to blame.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 5, 2019 • 12:55:48am

re: #1 William Lewis

Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site.

8ch is gone. Cloudflare actually followed through.

Now the thing for boycotters to do is to follow where they go next, as was done with Daily Stormer.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 5, 2019 • 1:03:15am
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 5, 2019 • 1:44:55am
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A Mom Anon  Aug 5, 2019 • 2:09:48am

re: #11 Patricia Kayden

This is a disease. The answer to everything has become shooting a gun. We need federal standards for gun ownership, and a gun buyback program that’s monitored to ensure those weapons stay out of human hands. Melt the motherfuckers down and make them into something that doesn’t slaughter people. I’m kinda pro life like that. And then, if you have a large cache of weapons and ammo and the like, sorry, you can’t have it anymore. And you don’t get to have bombs and chemicals and rocket launchers either. No. Find something else to do. Preferably something fun and productive that doesn’t involve weapons. Or hurting people or critters.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 2:45:21am

re: #8 Targetpractice

I only ever notice this “breakdown of the moral fabric of society” BS is only spouted by wingnuts when it’s a white gunman they want to make excuses for.

When a black man is involved, suddenly it’s an indictment of the entire black community, for which we get the “Pound Cake speech” and endless recitations of Dr. King snippets totally divorced from their original context.

Hispanic? The automatic assumption that they must be “illegal” and thus a symbol of the need for a “strong border” and “tough laws.”

And if he’s Arabic, then get ready for a long lecture about the “evils” of Islam and how every single follower is either a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer.

But a white guy? No, it’s not the gunman, it’s society to blame, which means it’s “liberals” to blame.

Exactly. And man it is infuriating seeing people blame everything but easy access to guns as to why these occur.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 2:46:47am

re: #10 Patricia Kayden

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This is an issue he can’t blame on banks and Wall Street so of course.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 5, 2019 • 2:55:19am

re: #14 HappyWarrior

I wish Democrats would tell him to go piss up a rope. Tulsi too. She’s Jill Stein 2.0 plus Assad. Neither one of them are actually Democrats , let them form their own damned party. Or just join the GOP and be over it. Ratfuckers.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 3:12:58am

re: #15 A Mom Anon

I wish Democrats would tell him to go piss up a rope. Tulsi too. She’s Jill Stein 2.0 plus Assad. Neither one of them are actually Democrats , let them form their own damned party. Or just join the GOP and be over it. Ratfuckers.

They’re both so awful.

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Chrysicat  Aug 5, 2019 • 4:33:18am

At least this being dropped in the wee hours has the excuse of “actually” happening in the early evening?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 4:35:33am

re: #17 Chrysicat

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At least this being dropped in the wee hours has the excuse of “actually” happening in the early evening?

It’s not good. I swear we are repeating the first half of the last century.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 5, 2019 • 4:45:45am

This is obscene

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 4:48:01am

re: #19 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This is obscene

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Fake news. Oh like yourself. Like Fox and Breitbart.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 4:48:29am

Trump is the opposite of the Buck stops here.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 5, 2019 • 4:49:36am

re: #21 HappyWarrior

Trump is the opposite of the Buck stops here.

Responsibility stops elsewhere. The buck (Monetary version) heads directly for his wallet.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 5, 2019 • 4:50:21am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 5, 2019 • 4:52:45am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 4:54:11am

The media has contributed absolutely but it’s not CNN or MSNBC. It’s Trump’s Friends.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 4:54:41am

re: #22 Feline Fearless Leader

Responsibility stops elsewhere. The buck (Monetary version) heads directly for his wallet.

I hate this corrupt bastard so much.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 5, 2019 • 4:54:53am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 4:57:06am

re: #27 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Well said.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:02:24am

Now there’s a major attempt to say the MSM is lying about Trump’s support for white supremicists, calling it the “Charlottesville Lie.” I think it’s being pushed by Prager U on youtube and twitter.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:03:53am

China fires a broadside at Trump in the escalating trade war:

U.S. stock futures were sliding Monday, following sharp declines in Asia, as China hit back at Donald Trump’s move to accelerate tariffs on China-made goods by allowing the yuan to slip to the lowest levels against the dollar in more than a decade.

The People’s Bank of China, the country’s central bank, let the so-called on-shore yuan fall past the psychologically important threshold of 7 in early Monday trading, citing in a statement “unilateralism and protectionism,’ as well as the expectation of additional tariffs from the United States. The breach through 7, the first since May 2008, weakens the Chinese currency in international markets and theoretically makes exports more attractive by offsetting the impact of tariffs.

China’s decision to allow the yuan to weaken to such a degree, while simultaneously instructing state-owned companies to suspend purchases of U.S. agricultural products, rattled markets as investors braced for a reaction from the White House that could trigger even more protectionist measures on trade between the world’s two biggest economies.

thestreet.com

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Chrysicat  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:06:52am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:20:01am

re: #29 Barefoot Grin

Now there’s a major attempt to say the MSM is lying about Trump’s support for white supremicists, calling it the “Charlottesville Lie.” I think it’s being pushed by Prager U on youtube and twitter.

Fucking PragerU.

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steve_davis  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:23:00am

re: #4 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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oh christ. futures are down 350 fucking points this morning. i don’t have the patience to worry about drag queen advocates.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:27:07am

re: #33 steve_davis

oh christ. futures are down 350 fucking points this morning. i don’t have the patience to worry about drag queen advocates.

See my #30 - looks like the trade war between China and the US is heating up.

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:29:27am

So Trump not only says he’ll only agree to universal background checks if Miller’s fantasy wish list (aka “immigration reform”) is approved, but he’s blaming the media for the outbreak of white supremacist terrorism since he took office.

Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:35:59am

re: #35 Targetpractice

So Trump not only says he’ll only agree to universal background checks if Miller’s fantasy wish list (aka “immigration reform”) is approved, but he’s blaming the media for the outbreak of white supremacist terrorism since he took office.

Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.

Yep fuck this.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:37:35am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:38:27am

re: #32 HappyWarrior

Fucking PragerU.

Dennis Prager is a Nazi.

Anyone who heard his racist rants on KABC knows that to be true.

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:39:11am

re: #37 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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With the GOP as willing accomplices. Don’t be surprised if this “compromise” gets eagerly taken up by Congressional Republicans.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:40:37am

re: #28 HappyWarrior

Well said.

Make sure you read his whole thread

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Jay C  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:41:33am

re: #7 Anymouse 🌹🎃

re: #33 steve_davis

oh christ. futures are down 350 fucking points this morning. i don’t have the patience to worry about drag queen advocates.

SRSLY: Just a thought: how many of these mass shooters have been raised in homes with two (even just gay) parents, never mind “drag queens”??

I’ll patiently wait for the evidence…..

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:41:49am

And Tom Brokaw chimes in with the Both Sides Do It bullshit.

Did I expect anything else from this has been Presstitute?

Nope.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:43:31am

re: #40 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Make sure you read his whole thread

I did.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:44:19am

re: #42 Joe Bacon 🌹

And Tom Brokaw chimes in with the Both Sides Do It bullshit.

Did I expect anything else from this has been Presstitute?

Nope.

I forget Tom, when did Obama and Democrats try to imply conservatives weren’t Americans or deserving of violence.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:45:13am
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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:46:16am

re: #42 Joe Bacon 🌹

And Tom Brokaw chimes in with the Both Sides Do It bullshit.

Did I expect anything else from this has been Presstitute?

Nope.

Let me guess, the “other side” is that Democrats (rightly) point out that Trump and his supporters are racists and/or racist-curious, which is supposed to be the same as screaming that all “illegals” are rapists and murderers who are “invading” America?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:46:58am

re: #45 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Oh I got beat up, in my old Kentucky Home…

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Chrysicat  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:47:04am

Goddammit. Now we can’t even respect Tom Brokaw.

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jeffreyw  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:53:06am

Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:53:17am

There is a center but it’s not who Brokaw thinks.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:55:23am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:56:15am

re: #7 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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Another Republican snowflake. Also, ignoring the courts seems to be a thing with Republican officials who don’t want to interact with their constituents (because again, snowflake).

She could just ignore her office telephone like most Republicans.

Gee, Ms. Keller, there must be a total absence of gay agitators, marijuana, divorce, or general godlessness and heathen pop culture in other advanced countries because they don’t seem to have these massacres on a daily basis. New Zealand had one a while back but they seem to have cleaned up their act. Did the Southern Baptist Convention take the place over or what?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:56:38am

Time to remind folks how Jimmy Dore exposed what a fake Brokaw is.

Tom Brokaw Unwittingly Reveals Whats Wrong With Corporate Journalists

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Chrysicat  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:58:19am

re: #52 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Gee, Ms. Pransky, there must be a total absence of gay agitators, marijuana, divorce, or general godlessness and heathen pop culture in other advanced countries because they don’t seem to have these massacres on a daily basis. New Zealand had one a while back but they seem to have cleaned up their act. Did the Southern Baptist Convention take the place over or what?

Ms. Keller,, sweetie.

Pransky’s the guy who brought here to our attention and then warned us she’d fLocked her Twitter.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:59:08am

re: #54 Chrysicat

Ms. Keller,, sweetie.

Pransky’s the guy who brought here to our attention and then warned us she’d fLocked her Twitter.

I caught that.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 5:59:17am

re: #52 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Gee, Ms. Keller, there must be a total absence of gay agitators, marijuana, divorce, or general godlessness and heathen pop culture in other advanced countries because they don’t seem to have these massacres on a daily basis. New Zealand had one a while back but they seem to have cleaned up their act. Did the Southern Baptist Convention take the place over or what?

All things that exist in other countries. Republicans are just a bunch of gun humping cowards.

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b.d.  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:03:52am

re: #51 Joe Bacon 🌹

Show us ONE example where Obama incited people to hate.

HIM BEING BLACK ALL OF THE TIME!

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:06:20am

re: #56 HappyWarrior

All things that exist in other countries. Republicans are just a bunch of gun humping cowards.

The RWNJ’s love to bring up video games in discussions of violence.

If video games turned people into homicidal maniacs, Japan would be a goddamn slaughterhouse, with daily massacres.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:06:42am

re: #58 Dr Lizardo

The RWNJ’s love to bring up video games in discussions of violence.

If video games turned people to homicidal maniacs, Japan would be a goddamn slaughterhouse, with daily massacres.

It’s such shit.

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:08:45am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump’s supposed to give a presser this morning, but it’s going to be his usual baffling BS and attempt to deflect from his culpability in the rash of mass shootings and right wing domestic terrorism. His words and actions enable his racist base to act on their violent fantasies.

So of course Trump’s trying to combine his demands for a wall with background checks.

Bulkshit - all of it is bulkshit. The wall wont stop any of the homegrown white supremacists and right wing domestic terrorists who radicalized listening to Fox, Trump, and right wing echo chamber and whose manifestos and utterances are indistinguishable from Trump. The wall is one more dog whistle reminding his racist base that nonwhites are the real threat.

Fuck that. And fuck the language police who complain that Beto used cuss words to describe the current situation. If you’re not cursing your ass off at the insanity of doing the same thing each time we have a mass shooting (aka doing nothing), then something is wrong with you, not them.

We continue to enable the gun lobby and gun sellers to dictate the terms of public safety, when the only thing the gun sellers want is to sell more guns. They’ve weaponized the courts to take a grossly irresponsible view of the 2A that writes out the very language of the 2A to enable gun humpers to purchase weapons of war and all the accoutrements. No one needs an assault weapon. No one needs a gun that looks like an assault weapon. No one needs a gun with a magazine with 100 rounds. The only reason to have those kinds of weapons is to kill the most number of people in the shortest time period.

Within a minute the Dayton shooter killed 9 and wounded 20+ before cops killed him. That’s in an open carry state. No good guys with guns acted or could have acted faster than the cops who were already patroling. There was no deterrent factor. Nope. The shooter did what shooters do - murdered their targets without a care.

Within a few minutes, the El Paso shooter killed 20 and wounded dozens. Again, an open carry state. Walmart sells guns. No one with a gun confronted or deterred the shooter until cops apprehended him.

The entire good guy with a gun mantra is so much bulkshit that Costco could be appalled at the portion size. Open carry doesn’t deter. More guns don’t deter. It just means more guns and more people who never should be allowed to have a firearm.

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Belafon  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:20:00am
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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:21:01am

Saturday, America was reeling from the El Paso massacre. And hours later Americans were horrified at yet another mass shooting in Dayton.

So where was Trump? He was busy hobnobbing with those at a wedding reception at his fucking golf resort business in NJ.

Priorities.

He profits from those wedding receptions and business. He profits from every single trip he makes to the golf resorts he owns. He golfs at pace not seen since Ike. This is all self-dealing.

And the GOP is fine with it. His base is fine with all of this.

None of this is normal. It’s the opposite of normal.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:23:13am

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:23:44am

re: #62 lawhawk

Saturday, America was reeling from the El Paso massacre. And hours later Americans were horrified at yet another mass shooting in Dayton.

So where was Trump? He was busy hobnobbing with those at a wedding reception at his fucking golf resort business in NJ.

Priorities.

He profits from those wedding receptions and business. He profits from every single trip he makes to the golf resorts he owns. He golfs at pace not seen since Ike. This is all self-dealing.

And the GOP is fine with it. His base is fine with all of this.

None of this is normal. It’s the opposite of normal.

Compared to every…single…time that the GOP and the “liberal media” lost their collective shit that Obama was ever outside the confines of the White House because shit was going down and he wasn’t there to give an immediate press conference.

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Kilroy was here  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:24:26am

Neil deGrasse Tyson apologizes after backlash over mass shooting tweet

“My intent was to offer objectively true information that might help shape conversations and reactions to preventable ways we die,” Tyson said of his tweets in a Monday in a Facebook post.

thehill.com

I have nothing…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:28:30am

You had one job.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:30:52am

re: #64 Targetpractice

Compared to every…single…time that the GOP and the “liberal media” lost their collective shit that Obama was ever outside the confines of the White House because shit was going down and he wasn’t there to give an immediate press conference.

It’s amazing how much revisionism there is about all this.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:34:02am

The stock market is down more than 1%.
fuck trump. (I want to say more, but can’t)

and fuck trump

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:34:19am

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

You had one job.

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This viral typo did serve a useful purpose.
Typo excuse to remember Don Rendell

Chris Searle’s perceptive jazz reviews are by far the beat writing in the Morning Star, so it was unfortunate that he had to write in to correct a highly embarrassing typo for which (obviously) he was in no was responsible. Or perhaps not: it has drawn attention to a marvellous and, these days, largely overlooked British jazz musician and given me an excuse to draw your attention to his music:

Don Rendell & Ian Carr Quintet - Shades Of Blue

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:37:28am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:39:34am
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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:39:53am
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Ace-o-aces  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:40:08am

Look, like most of you I have no idea what is going on in the Conway household and it makes me suspicious, but this thread is 100% spot-on.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:40:13am

re: #71 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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This isn’t weird at all.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:41:15am

re: #49 jeffreyw

Sparrow flock that normally hangs out at neighbor’s feeders nowhere to be seen this morning when I went to breakfast.

When I came back I noticed the Coopers Hawk sitting in the top of a nearby pine tree.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:41:22am

re: #6 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

In a society with any sense of decency…

Wait, I think I see the problem

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Sir John Barron  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:44:18am

re: #58 Dr Lizardo

The RWNJ’s love to bring up video games in discussions of violence.

If video games turned people into homicidal maniacs, Japan would be a goddamn slaughterhouse, with daily massacres.

I was wondering how long it would take for video games to come up…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:45:40am

re: #77 Sir John Barron

I was wondering how long it would take for video games to come up…

Came up immediately.

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:45:50am

re: #33 steve_davis

oh christ. futures are down 350 fucking points this morning. i don’t have the patience to worry about drag queen advocates.

Respectfully request that you clarify your statement regarding “drag queen advocates.”

Because the way I’m reading your statement, it sounds like you’re saying LGBTQ advocates should sit down and shut up in the face of attacks against the community … because your personal stock portfolio is suffering due to Trump’s malfeasance.

Am I reading your statement incorrectly?

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:46:27am

re: #78 HappyWarrior

Came up immediately.

From multiple places. So it was obviously distributed out as the chosen talking point for this particular massacre.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:47:42am

re: #51 Joe Bacon 🌹

Well, there was that time he spent a whole week tweeting about what a sht hole that Congressman Joe “YOU LIE” Wilson’s South Carolina’s district was like and…

Oh wait, no, Obama didn’t actually do that.

/

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Teukka  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:48:24am

So, one of my acquaintances posted something very thoughtworthy. You might not agree with Chris on all things, but on this topic, you should listen…

Facebook Post

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Sir John Barron  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:48:29am

re: #78 HappyWarrior

Came up immediately.

Have also seen that it was all Obummer’s fault for open borders and such.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:48:56am

re: #80 Feline Fearless Leader

From multiple places. So it was obviously distributed out as the chosen talking point for this particular massacre.

Yep. They’re good at coordinating that. I’ll give em that.

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jeffreyw  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:49:19am

re: #75 Feline Fearless Leader

Sparrow flock that normally hangs out at neighbor’s feeders nowhere to be seen this morning when I went to breakfast.

When I came back I noticed the Coopers Hawk sitting in the top of a nearby pine tree.

That tends to dampen the picnickers’ enthusiasm.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:49:33am

re: #84 HappyWarrior

Yep. They’re good at coordinating that. I’ll give em that.

Should be added to ‘thoughts and prayers’.

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Belafon  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:49:36am

For future reference:

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Belafon  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:50:19am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:50:25am

re: #81 Sir John Barron

Well, there was that time he spent a whole week tweeting about what a sht hole that Congressman Joe “YOU LIE” Wilson’s South Carolina’s district was like and…

Oh wait, no, Obama didn’t actually do that.

/

Obama was the opposite. He never derided red America. He was always correct that’s it’s all America and it was true from his DNC 2004 Keynote to now.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:50:38am

re: #70 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Yikes!

The owner of the company, Stephen Gore, pleaded guilty to conducting an illegal enterprise in a criminal case concerning the operation in 2015. He was sentenced to four years probation and forced to repay $120,500 to the Army Research Laboratory, according to court filings.

Gorey details of the FBI raid on Dr. Frankenstein’s Mr. Gore’s facility:

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:52:00am

re: #83 Sir John Barron

Have also seen that it was all Obummer’s fault for open borders and such.

Hell Obama has a lot of critics for not being pro immigrant enough and I’m sympathetic to that criticism but I also understand that Obama already had a tough road.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:53:53am

re: #87 Belafon

For future reference:

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You can hear the emotion in his voice.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:54:54am

re: #89 HappyWarrior

Obama was the opposite. He never derided red America. He was always correct that’s it’s all America and it was true from his DNC 2004 Keynote to now.

Wingnuts clung to Obama’s “clinging to their guns” comment for eight years as the worst possible offense possible, but for all DJT”s tweets it’s “Well, he’s just a straightshooter, well, he just says what he feels and thinks, and well, yeah we wish he wouldn’t say some stuff but it’s all OK because he’s packing the SCOTUS like we like….”

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Sir John Barron  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:55:54am

re: #91 HappyWarrior

Hell Obama has a lot of critics for not being pro immigrant enough and I’m sympathetic to that criticism but I also understand that Obama already had a tough road.

Yeah Obama was both somehow responsible for separating parents and children at the border AND for allowing immigrants to pour over the walls, etc.
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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:56:21am

re: #93 Sir John Barron

Wingnuts clung to Obama’s “clinging to their guns” comment for eight years as the worst possible offense possible, but for all DJT”s tweets it’s “Well, he’s just a straightshooter, well, he just says what he feels and thinks, and well, yeah we wish he wouldn’t say some stuff but it’s all OK because he’s packing the SCOTUS like we like….”

He was right about that too. They do CLING to their guns and religion.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 6:56:50am

re: #94 Sir John Barron

Yeah Obama was both somehow responsible for separating parents and children at the border AND for allowing immigrants to pour over the walls, etc.
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Schrodinger’s Obama.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:00:39am

Straight shooting is fine to wingnuts when it’s people they don’t like as the target. Same thing with being political incorrectness. But call out wingnuts as a bunch of chickenshits who don’t live in the 21st century or joke about their religion or ideology and they’re sensitive af.

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:01:05am

Okay, upon further reflection, it looks like I AM reading Steve’s post incorrectly. Ms. Socially Conservative Gish Galloping GOP-er invoked “drag queen advocates” and it looks to me now that Steve is saying, “Who has time to blame LGBTQ advocates for society’s ills? Can’t you see the stock market is tanking?”

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:02:38am

Marrying gun control to immigration is a racist poison pill. Leverage… The bastard.

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ozharas  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:06:18am

re: #87 Belafon

Video version

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:07:16am

re: #75 Feline Fearless Leader

Sparrow flock that normally hangs out at neighbor’s feeders nowhere to be seen this morning when I went to breakfast.

When I came back I noticed the Coopers Hawk sitting in the top of a nearby pine tree.

May I borrow It? I need a culling of the English sparrows at my feeder.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:07:40am

Freep is totally losing it over Trump’s dance with background checks. A few realize that Trump has already restricted weapons (bump stocks) more than Obama,

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Jay C  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:08:05am

re: #99 Rightwingconspirator

Marrying gun control to immigration is a racist poison pill. Leverage… The bastard.

Especially as it is obvious that as far the Trump Administration is concerned “immigration reform” means Building The Wall, completely halting all (non-white) immigration absolutely, engaging in mass dragnets against “illegals” - DREAMERs and DACA kids included: and the whole program conducted as a quasi-military exercise - with a studied disregard for any existing laws or protections. Except for the odd white people caught up in it, of course….

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sagehen  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:08:25am

re: #99 Rightwingconspirator

Marrying gun control to immigration is a racist poison pill. Leverage… The bastard.

I see it more as “if we give the terrorists what they want, they’ll stop terrorizing….”

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:08:31am

re: #99 Rightwingconspirator

Marrying gun control to immigration is a racist poison pill. Leverage… The bastard.

Frankly, it was probably Miller’s idea more than anyone else’s.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:10:11am

When a man claiming he could shoot someone on the street and get away with it talks about mass shootings, well consider the source.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:10:46am

Pass

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DangerMan  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:11:05am
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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:12:06am

Here it comes… Blah blah.

Hate lives in the White House.

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DangerMan  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:12:26am

Said Joe scarborough: “The president never tones down his rhetoric. In fact, for those of you who are funding Donald Trump’s reelection campaign you may want to take note that because you keep writing checks to this president it’s on you, it really is, because you are funding this white supremacist campaign

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Danack  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:12:33am

re: #9 Anymouse 🌹🎃

8ch is gone. Cloudflare actually followed through.

They’ll be able to find an alternative service.

If nothing else, the Russian intelligence services would love to host their site, as it would give them more direct access to people willing to carry terrorist attacks against the USA.

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DangerMan  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:13:48am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:14:39am

re: #111 Danack

I’ve read they’ve already found a new service to replace the one they lost - epik dot com or something like that. Apparently, they’re fairly well-known for providing services to extreme right-wing websites that no one else will touch.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:14:47am

Trump-Blaming the internet and video games. Ugh.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:14:55am

Back in a bit.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:15:39am

Lre: #114 Rightwingconspirator

Trump-Blaming the internet and video games. Ugh.

He literally echos your rhetoric.

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:17:49am

re: #87 Belafon

For future reference:

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The first candidate who explicitly says, “Shit’s fucked, yo,” will deserve a standing ovation, no matter the handwringing from the political media and genteel bluenoses.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:18:08am

Rent-a-Hawk - For when you need both wings to do the job properly

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Belafon  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:18:39am

re: #114 Rightwingconspirator

Trump-Blaming the internet and video games. Ugh.

I will send money to any reporter that asks any Republican in Congress or the White House why video games and the internet since other countries have them as well.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:18:56am

re: #114 Rightwingconspirator

Trump-Blaming the internet and video games. Ugh.

Delivering his message with less emotion and empathy than the guy announcing the special over the PA system at any Winn Dixie

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:19:23am

re: #119 Belafon

I will send money to any reporter that asks any Republican in Congress or the White House why video games and the internet since other countries have them as well.

American Exceptionalism. Of course.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:19:39am

re: #120 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Delivering his message with less emotion and empathy than the guy announcing the special over the PA system at any Winn Dixie

Because he doesn’t care.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:20:30am

Let’s start with you, Fatso.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:21:30am

re: #123 The Pie Overlord!

Let’s start with you, Fatso.

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Says the biggest white supremacist in the country.

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ozharas  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:22:28am

Toledo?

Useless president, can’t even the basics right.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:22:33am

JFC

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:23:13am

What is the format for posting a Tweet in a thread where you don’t also want the previous Tweet.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:24:23am

re: #118 Feline Fearless Leader

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DoD has rented falcons and their handlers as part of the Bird Aircraft Strike Hazard (BASH) program. They were used with limited success to reduce pigeons and other flying trash near hangars and airfields. (There are almost 2500 damaging bird strikes per year.)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:24:59am

How it looks overseas. I really like this blunt headline in the Sydney Morning-Herald.

US in the midst of a white nationalist terrorism crisis

These right-wing extremists are not only channelling neo-Nazi borne “Great Replacement” conspiracy theories, which frame demographic change as a threat to white Europeans, but also taking a cue from the words and policies of President Donald Trump.

It was only two weeks ago when Trump inspired an auditorium full of his supporters to chant “send her back” in reference to the country’s first elected black Muslim congresswoman, Ilhan Omar, who was born in Somalia and migrated to the US as the young daughter of refugee parents.

Earlier in the year, Trump smeared all immigrants approaching the US-Mexico border as invaders when he said, “People hate the word ‘invasion’, but that’s what it is.”

Trump has also referred to Latin American refugees and asylum seekers as “rapists”, “criminals”, drug dealers” and “terrorists”.

It’s worth remembering that when a Rwandan politician described Rwanda’s Tutsi minority as “cockroaches” it started a genocide that resulted in the deaths of upwards of one million people in that country.

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DangerMan  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:27:56am
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plansbandc  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:28:04am

A Cooper’s Hawk killed a roadrunner right in front of my neighbor’s house. She said her cat was going bonkers watching it.

Nature is harsh man.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:28:34am

re: #130 DangerMan

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He won’t.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:30:15am

He wants to kill more people

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:30:24am
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Belafon  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:33:34am

re: #133 The Pie Overlord!

He wants to kill more people

He, and probably the rest of the GOP, is looking for a way to turn this into a pro-Republican issue without addressing the real problem.

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:33:36am
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Jay C  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:34:09am

re: #120 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Delivering his message with less emotion and empathy than the guy announcing the special over the PA system at any Winn Dixie

Of course: It’s Donald Trump: any speech that doesn’t focus on:

A) Promoting himself
B) Insulting somebody
C) Whipping up hate/resentment

he probably considers not worth giving. Unless he HAS to (i.e. somebody else in his Admin convinces him he HAS to. Which of course, simply feeds Trump’s own resentments). George Conway’s take (as recapped in Comment #73) is right on: and Trump’s inane “Toledo” gaffe is probably going to accelerate the process: it will probably be the main takeaway from his speech…..

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:34:28am

re: #133 The Pie Overlord!

He wants to kill more people

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He wants public executions.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:36:09am

re: #138 HappyWarrior

He wants public executions.

And it would be easy to fill the stadium. That’s at the core of the problem.

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makeitstop  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:36:20am

re: #133 The Pie Overlord!

He wants to kill more people

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Is it me, or does he look like his blood pressure is through the roof right now?

Someone who is that red-faced while standing still is not a healthy man.

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:36:21am

re: #128 Decatur Deb

JFK, EWR, and LGA all have bird strike reduction programs, because we’re on the Atlantic flyway in NYC metro. I think they use everything from falcons to shooting to scare off birds.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:37:03am

re: #9 Anymouse 🌹🎃

8ch is gone. Cloudflare actually followed through.

Now the thing for boycotters to do is to follow where they go next, as was done with Daily Stormer.

I’m sure someone in Russia is willing to host them.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:37:26am

re: #139 Decatur Deb

And it would be easy to fill the stadium. That’s at the core of the problem.

It would be.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:37:37am

re: #141 lawhawk

JFK, EWR, and LGA all have bird strike reduction programs, because we’re on the Atlantic flyway in NYC metro. I think they use everything from falcons to shooting to scare off birds.

It was a couple of your geese that let Sully demonstrate his proficiency.

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:38:55am

His fucking staff is incompetent. He is incompetent. He doesn’t care about this.

He doesn’t care about any of this.

This shows just how little he and the GOP care about gun violence. They can’t even get the name of the city where it occurred correct.

Fuck all of those who voted for Trump.

GOP delenda est. For the sake of the nation, we need to utterly crush the GOP and begin rolling back all the regressive policies they’ve enacted that deprive minorities of their rights and start to deal with the way Trump, McConnell, and the GOP remade the judiciary and Supreme Court with right wing extremists who will sit on the bench for decades to come.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:39:57am

I’m sure everyone could use this about now

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:40:39am

re: #142 Romantic Heretic

Some wackaloon did.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:40:46am

re: #145 lawhawk

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His fucking staff is incompetent. He is incompetent. He doesn’t care about this.

He doesn’t care about any of this.

This shows just how little he and the GOP care about gun violence. They can’t even get the name of the city where it occurred correct.

Fuck all of those who voted for Trump.

GOP delenda est. For the sake of the nation, we need to utterly crush the GOP and begin rolling back all the regressive policies they’ve enacted that deprive minorities of their rights and start to deal with the way Trump, McConnell, and the GOP remade the judiciary and Supreme Court with right wing extremists who will sit on the bench for decades to come.

This is such a bad dream.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:41:59am

re: #145 lawhawk

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His fucking staff is incompetent. He is incompetent. He doesn’t care about this.

He doesn’t care about any of this.

This shows just how little he and the GOP care about gun violence. They can’t even get the name of the city where it occurred correct.

Fuck all of those who voted for Trump.

GOP delenda est. For the sake of the nation, we need to utterly crush the GOP and begin rolling back all the regressive policies they’ve enacted that deprive minorities of their rights and start to deal with the way Trump, McConnell, and the GOP remade the judiciary and Supreme Court with right wing extremists who will sit on the bench for decades to come.

Winning 2020 by 2 points in the right states really isn’t going to solve this shit.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:43:02am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:43:07am

re: #147 lawhawk

Some wackaloon did.

Still needs wingnut whining about ‘deplatforming’.

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:43:19am

re: #149 Decatur Deb

No, it isn’t. Undoing the damage Trump and McConnnell have done to the courts will take years, and not go without legal battles to protect the extremists McConnell put on the bench to say nothing of the battles to protect the rights we have and those that the GOP are looking to undo.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:44:02am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:44:20am

re: #152 lawhawk

No, it isn’t. Undoing the damage Trump and McConnnell have done to the courts will take years, and not go without legal battles to protect the extremists McConnell put on the bench to say nothing of the battles to protect the rights we have and those that the GOP are looking to undo.

A 60/40 Dem turnout would be a good start.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:44:39am

No it’s not going to fix it. What bothers me is thinking they might learn from Trump’s mistakes and give us something even worse in 2024.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:44:56am

re: #153 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Pretty much, yeah.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:45:11am

re: #153 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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That’s what he is saying.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:47:14am

Let me get this straight: The President of the United States wants to execute people who are suffering from a mental illness?

Haha no! He wants to execute innocent Black & Brown people!

Can anyone think of the last time a mentally ill person committed a mass shooting? John Hinckley comes to mind. Anyone else?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:48:25am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

No it’s not going to fix it. What bothers me is thinking they might learn from Trump’s mistakes and give us something even worse in 2024.

They will try.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:48:38am

re: #158 The Pie Overlord!

Let me get this straight: The President of the United States wants to execute people who are suffering from a mental illness?

Haha no! He wants to execute innocent Black & Brown people!

Can anyone think of the last time a mentally ill person committed a mass shooting? John Hinckley comes to mind. Anyone else?

Sandy Hook, probably, but when they are killed we don’t get to learn much from them.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:49:33am

re: #150 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Trump referred to the protestors as “rioters,” so there’ll be no push back from the WH, that’s for sure.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:51:24am
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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:51:36am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:51:50am

re: #161 Barefoot Grin

Trump referred to the protestors as “rioters,” so there’ll be no push back from the WH, that’s for sure.

I think Trump has fucked with the Chinese enough for one week.
google.com

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Belafon  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:53:07am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

No it’s not going to fix it. What bothers me is thinking they might learn from Trump’s mistakes and give us something even worse in 2024.

It’s going to take Democrats voting in 2022 like they’re voting in 2020, and Democrats in 2024 voting to beat 2020. Voters bear the biggest responsibility for this, and Democratic voters are going to have to realize that, as much as it’s not fair, they’re going to have to do more than the minimum.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:53:34am

re: #158 The Pie Overlord!

Let me get this straight: The President of the United States wants to execute people who are suffering from a mental illness?

Haha no! He wants to execute innocent Black & Brown people!

Can anyone think of the last time a mentally ill person committed a mass shooting? John Hinckley comes to mind. Anyone else?

Just define the perpetrators as mentally ill, problem solved. While we’re at it loop gamers into that definition, and any other undesirables. By equating all those groups as ill, you can lock them up or do your mass executions.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:54:10am

re: #165 Belafon

It’s going to take Democrats voting in 2022 like they’re voting in 2020, and Democrats in 2024 voting to beat 2020. Voters bear the biggest responsibility for this, and Democratic voters are going to have to realize that, as much as it’s not fair, they’re going to have to do more than the minimum.

Absolutely

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:54:55am

re: #45 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Lol!! Good one.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:55:45am

re: #150 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Tiananmen Square Massacre, 2019 edition.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:58:14am

Son2 put me on to a fantastic mental health break. I’ve been deliberately falling asleep while watching hours of this in a recliner. The wine helps.

vimeo.com

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DangerMan  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:58:37am

re: #125 ozharas

Toledo?

Useless president, can’t even the basics right.

otoh, as mrs dm points out, there are so many shootings, he could have gotten it right by accident

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:59:35am
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 5, 2019 • 7:59:36am

re: #169 Dr Lizardo

Tiananmen Square Massacre, 2019 edition.

It’s going to be tragic. There was never any way out for Beijing but suppression (though it’s not a fight Beijing wanted; this started over an extradition row between HK and Taiwan that would have ultimately allowed extradition to the mainland if new laws went through the HK government).

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Sir John Barron  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:00:12am

re: #125 ozharas

Toledo?

Useless president, can’t even the basics right.

One of those Indiana cities or towns.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:02:31am

re: #125 ozharas

Toledo?

Useless president, can’t even the basics right.

Yes, the great state of Michigan has had a hard time with shootings and violence. Too bad. Did you know I won Michigan in 2016? Not many people know that. Toledo, Michigan is a much better city than Elijah Cummings’ Baltimore, which has all the rats.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:03:39am

re: #166 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Just define the perpetrators as mentally ill, problem solved. While we’re at it loop gamers into that definition, and any other undesirables. By equating all those groups as ill, you can lock them up or do your mass executions.

The “mental illness” trope is a huge win for RWNJ authoritarians. They gain more authority and control over private choices, they get to funnel money into “faith based” mental health scams, and they get to preserve the sanctity of their gun cult.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:05:48am

Even non RWNJs fall for the mental illness stuff. I asked my mom- would anyone equate mental illness to Bin Laden? No, she says. The fact is mental illness is used to create an “other.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:06:52am

No one tried saying mental illness after Pulse or Fort Hood.

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steve_davis  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:07:18am

re: #68 I Would Prefer Not To

The stock market is down more than 1%.
fuck trump. (I want to say more, but can’t)

and fuck trump

down more than 1% today. I only, other than BRK-B, pretty much nothing that doesn’t generate dividends, and I’ve still been taking it good and hard the last few weeks. I can only imagine what life has been like for folks who stay in the NASDAQ and want stock gains above all else. I haven’t looked at Beyond Meat, but I’m guessing a ton of people are taking profits there, or selling because they’re on margin and getting creamed, or maybe just desperately selling because they have to, to cover losses they’re taking elsewhere.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:07:19am
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makeitstop  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:09:59am

re: #172 The Pie Overlord!

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His teeth are loose again, you can see him sucking them back into place.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:10:53am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

No it’s not going to fix it. What bothers me is thinking they might learn from Trump’s mistakes and give us something even worse in 2024.

Radical Xtians are already backing Ivanka in 2024…

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:11:11am

I guess it wasn’t just Trump who got confused—sigh—-

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:11:37am

Three years ago.

Ohio Trump campaign chair Kathy Miller says there was ‘no racism’ before Obama

Kathy Miller called the Black Lives Matter movement ‘a stupid waste of time’ and said low African American voter turnout could be due to ‘the way they’re raised’

The county Republican chair, one Mark Munroe, called the comments “insane” and Miller was duly given the boot.
Now, though, with Trump making the same assertions and the GOP falling dutifully into line, she must be feeling vindicated, a bigot ahead of her time.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:13:41am

re: #181 makeitstop

His teeth dentures are loose again, you can see him sucking them back into place.

FTFY.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:14:02am

re: #182 Joe Bacon 🌹

Radical Xtians are already backing Ivanka in 2024…

Yeah I’ve heard. Gah.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:14:31am

re: #183 Barefoot Grin

I guess it wasn’t just Trump who got confused—sigh—-

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FFS Joe.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:14:58am

re: #184 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Three years ago.

Ohio Trump campaign chair Kathy Miller says there was ‘no racism’ before Obama

The county Republican chair, one Mark Munroe, called the comments “insane” and Miller was duly given the boot.
Now, though, with Trump making the same assertions and the GOP falling dutifully into line, she must be feeling vindicated, a bigot ahead of her time.

Republicans are so pathetically deluded.

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:15:18am

re: #183 Barefoot Grin

Biden did correct himself.

Houston was also site of a mass shooting - one that took lives of multiple cops.

Plus, there was the garden variety shootings and homicides that don’t make national headlines. 10 shot in 12 hours in Houston. Yeah, open carry and easy to get guns really makes the city safe.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:16:07am
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DangerMan  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:17:10am

caveats re background checks
- the goal is to reduce the total number of gun deaths
- there is nothing, no law or set of laws, that can prevent or predict the next mass shooting

as i wrote back in 2016 on the freakonomics of gun control

enhanced background checks, in and of themselves aren’t nearly enough. we need more for it to work at all.

first recognize that ‘sale’ must not mean just initial ‘sales’ from gun stores. it must cover every transfer. every private sale, every loan, every ‘transaction’ in which you cede or grant physical control of a weapon you own to someone else.

from the page above

First some sort of no-fly list - call it what you want. If the government has the power to limit who can have a gun, ie felons and others, then every transfer or sale of any kind must be able to be vetted against this ‘list’ - otherwise the power to limit isn’t real. So access should be available to everyone because everyone has to have a way to know if they shouldn’t or can’t sell to person X.

Yes, there should be due process to get on, and mechanisms for review in case of errors. Verification access should be cheap or free. My preference is for a private system similar to credit reporting, though I’m not sure how that would work re sensitive, private information.

and again, every sale, transfer, loan etc has to have one - yeah even if you loan to your buddy for an afternoon of shooting at the range.

the next problem will clearly be situations like a dad/grandad gifting a gun to a son (or whoever). Lots of that kind of thing. How are we ever gonna know? And then we’re back to a loophole so big you could drive a semi through it with clearance on both sides for the mirrors.

background checks will only help if they’re strong, comprehensive and truly without exception (universal). It is exceptions that open the floodgates.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:21:46am

They blame video games for “teaching” people to kill but treat cops and military members as unquestioned heroes.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:24:58am

re: #190 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Ok, that’s a relief. Hope that proximity doesn’t entice a crackdown from these forces.

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DangerMan  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:26:03am

re: #154 Decatur Deb

A 60/40 Dem turnout would be a good start.

when dems vote, dems win
vote like your life depends on it, because, increasingly it does.

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jaunte  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:26:35am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:28:00am

Thoughts on Trump statement;

- The “Fake News” media has nothing to do with why all those people were killed over the weekend.

- Trying to use these tragedies to ram through your racist immigration bullshit is tone deaf as FUCK.

- “Hate has no place in America.” Great! When are you going to get the fuck out?

- Mental illness didn’t cause these shootings.

- Violent Video games didn’t cause these shootings.

- The only thing great that could come out of this would be universal background check enforcement, a ban on high capacity magazines and increased scrutiny of Assault weapon sales.

Also remember: EVERY time Trump has been forced to begrudgingly condemn white nationalists he backtracks within days.

This statement was just a giant angry orange asshole (poorly) reading meaningless words off a screen.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:29:23am

re: #195 jaunte

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They just assume illegal. I’m glad she was able to afford to come here legally. A lot of people don’t have that luxury and post 1959 Cuban-Americans like Ted Cruz’s father benefited from simply being Cuban.

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jaunte  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:30:48am

re: #197 HappyWarrior

Lots of Cubans in the Miami area are strong conservatives and would not believe what the anglos who fled to Broward County are still saying about them.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:31:11am

re: #193 Barefoot Grin

Ok, that’s a relief. Hope that proximity doesn’t entice a crackdown from these forces.

Same here, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if there was a bloody crackdown at some point in the not-too-distant future, especially if the protests continue and/or escalate.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:32:45am

re: #199 Dr Lizardo

Same here, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the were a bloody crackdown at some point in the not-too-distant future, especially if the protests continue and/or escalate.

For a country with probably 1,000,000 Uyghurs in concentration camps, violent suppression is a pretty good bet. Hope not.

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:33:33am

Limp delivery, obvious disinterest in the subject matter, and totally flubbing the ending. Yeah, this is something that he got forced to do, which means the moment he slips away from his handlers he’s gonna denounce most of it and go back to screaming like a raving nut.

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Belafon  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:34:58am

re: #194 DangerMan

when dems vote, dems win
vote like your life depends on it, because, increasingly it does.

As this diary points out, the reason so many Republicans in Texas are retiring is that, last year, while they were expecting a 1% increase in voting, Texas saw an 18% increase in voting. Texas went from being the worst state in midterm voting to the 6th best state.

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jaunte  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:35:28am
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DangerMan  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:35:43am

re: #195 jaunte

All over the country, there are people who hear Trump’s hateful rhetoric, then see someone’s brown skin, or hear someone’s accent, and they see an enemy. They don’t think to ask “how did you immigrate” before they make that association. They don’t, I think, think much at all.

FFS brown skin and an accent doesnt have to mean “immigrant”

the goal is to make ‘them’ ‘the other’

and if you’re asking ‘how’, then it’s too late.
they’ve already won you over to this perverted thinking

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:37:39am
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:38:15am

re: #204 DangerMan

FFS brown skin and an accent doesnt have to mean “immigrant”

the goal is to make ‘them’ ‘the other’

and if you’re asking ‘how’, then it’s too late.
they’ve already won you over to this perverted thinking

As someone married to one such person (who daily visits the homes of elderly folks who watch Fox all day), I’m more than a little worried.

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DangerMan  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:38:21am

re: #203 jaunte

Maggie Haberman

@maggieNYT
Morning tweets that were done over the objection of some staff members, and which underscore the possibility that he will tweet something in the next 12 hours that undercuts the remarks he just gave.

i do not believe trump vets his tweets with his staff

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jaunte  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:39:19am

re: #207 DangerMan

Yeah, pretty sure “objections of staff” is a complete fantasy.

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Belafon  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:39:29am

re: #207 DangerMan

i do not believe trump vets his tweets with his staff

Would you want to be in the bathroom with him?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:39:48am

re: #205 Ace-o-aces

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He literally cited you Paul. Yeah he had some leftist views but Sanders and Warren have never condoned violent solutions. But go ahead go no true right winger.

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:40:05am

re: #203 jaunte

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I genuinely do not believe anybody in that office talks to Maggie without Donny or one of his brood knowing about it. The whole “over objections” shit is an access journalist not wanting to risk being shut out of the palace intrigue circuit by reporting that everybody has given up on stopping the man.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:41:21am

The token RWNJ on my FB feed is howling that he will never give up his guns, with his yokel followers joining the chorus to drown out any squeak of non-NRA heresy. This reflects their cult’s sacred tenet that any suggestion of gun regulation is tantamount to confiscation. This is probably the second greatest RWNJ gun delusion, exceeded only by their potentially fatal assumption that they have a monopoly on guns and shooting proficiency.

As we see here at LGF, this is far from the truth. They do have a monopoly on the gun business, though. One of the annoying things about clinging to gun nuttery is that there are essentially no lib-owned gun outlets. The business, from manufacturing to point-of-sale and most services, is 100% RWNJ controlled. There are a handful of non-RWNJ ranges and gunsmiths, but if you’re liberal and want to stay armed, for whatever reason, you will be colluding with the enemy. It disgusts me to go to a commercial range and see the aging yuppies and Duck Dynasty beardos showing off their AR-15s and Glocks, not to mention the ever-present risk of an accidental discharge or some other disaster from these doofi. I am fortunate to have room and a good backstop for a shooting range right here at the Conspiracy Compound but it has many limitations and a full service range would be better.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:42:21am

re: #205 Ace-o-aces

El Paso shooters manifesto calls for universal healthcare and pay and is extremely anti corporate. These are all leftists ideas.

— Bryan

Oh well, that settles it, then.

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DangerMan  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:45:13am

re: #206 Barefoot Grin

As someone married to one such person (who daily visits the homes of elderly folks who watch Fox all day), I’m more than a little worried.

and to be blunt, that’s the point

they dont want to distinguish:
- born in the USA
- green card holder
- from ‘legal’ immigrant
- someone who legally came over from Juarez to El Paso for the day
- refugee / asylum seeker
- etc

and they arent trying to

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:45:50am

re: #207 DangerMan

FFS, Trump doesn’t vet his staff, let alone his nominees.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:46:17am

Steve Bannon has some views that aren’t typically right wing too and he’s not going to be called a leftist. Yeah some of these guys aren’t cheerleaders for capitalism but they all share sexism and racism, Trumps bread and butter.

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DangerMan  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:46:28am

re: #209 Belafon

Would you want to be in the bathroom with him?

damn
dont do that!

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DangerMan  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:48:03am

re: #212 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The token RWNJ on my FB feed is howling that he will never give up his guns, with his yokel followers joining the chorus to drown out any squeak of non-NRA heresy. This reflects their cult’s sacred tenet that any suggestion of gun regulation is tantamount to confiscation. This is probably the second greatest RWNJ gun delusion, exceeded only by their potentially fatal assumption that they have a monopoly on guns and shooting proficiency.

As we see here at LGF, this is far from the truth. They do have a monopoly on the gun business, though. One of the annoying things about clinging to gun nuttery is that there are essentially no lib-owned gun outlets. The business, from manufacturing to point-of-sale and most services, is 100% RWNJ controlled. There are a handful of non-RWNJ ranges and gunsmiths, but if you’re liberal and want to stay armed, for whatever reason, you will be colluding with the enemy. It disgusts me to go to a commercial range and see the aging yuppies and Duck Dynasty beardos showing off their AR-15s and Glocks, not to mention the ever-present risk of an accidental discharge or some other disaster from these doofi. I am fortunate to have room and a good backstop for a shooting range right here at the Conspiracy Compound but it has many limitations and a full service range would be better.

extra slice of raisin pie for ‘doofi’

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plansbandc  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:50:27am

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

Hate has every place in trumpland.

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:50:37am

re: #205 Ace-o-aces

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I thought about commenting upon this last night about Bernie, namely that he and many of his lily-white flock dismiss “identity politics” for the same reason that wingnuts have no problem with SS or Medicare: “It’s okay for me, but not for thee.” Wingnuts loved socialist programs until LBJ came along and said that everybody had to share the pie. Similarly old-school socialists like Bernie think that everybody can have pie…but only if you restrict who gets a seat at the table. That’s why those “progressives” that follow Bernie don’t care much for immigration, because they don’t see it as a humanitarian or rights issue, all they see is more competition for what they think should be theirs.

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jaunte  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:51:39am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:52:12am

re: #216 HappyWarrior

Steve Bannon has some views that aren’t typically right wing too and he’s not going to be called a leftist. Yeah some of these guys aren’t cheerleaders for capitalism but they all share sexism and racism, Trumps bread and butter.

Here’s the trick: Fascism is not standard Conservative ideology. All the guys on the Right push Fascism, but when a mass shooter espouses the same ideal they espouse, they point to the differences between that and classic Conservative ideology to say “he’s not Conservative!”, even though, really, they aren’t either.

It’s all a con. They might even be aware of it. Some of them certainly are.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:53:11am

re: #222 Blind Frog Belly White

Here’s the trick: Fascism is not standard Conservative ideology. All the guys on the Right push Fascism, but when a mass shooter espouses the same ideal they espouse, they point to the differences between that and classic Conservative ideology to say “he’s not Conservative!”, even though, really, they aren’t either.

It’s all a con. They might even be aware of it. Some of them certainly are.

Exactly

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:53:30am

re: #221 jaunte

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:53:38am

Good morning. Headed back to the real world after 11 days of vacation — not that I ever really disconnected.

Bummed because I just saw a reference to Gilroy and realized I’d forgotten all about it. Also, 11 days, three mass shootings.

ETA: big enough to make the national news.

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 8:56:34am

Thread time:

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Sir John Barron  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:02:32am

re: #222 Blind Frog Belly White

Here’s the trick: Fascism is not standard Conservative ideology. All the guys on the Right push Fascism, but when a mass shooter espouses the same ideal they espouse, they point to the differences between that and classic Conservative ideology to say “he’s not Conservative!”, even though, really, they aren’t either.

It’s all a con. They might even be aware of it. Some of them certainly are.

Because the shooter’s manifesto includes the word “the” it automatically is not true conservative and is therefore angry Leftist screed which all Democrat Party must renounce.

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stpaulbear  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:05:07am

re: #212 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Send him this. (via Balloon Juice)

The gun is not a mere tool, a bit of technology, a political issue, a point of debate. It is an object of reverence. Devotion to it precludes interruption with the sacrifices it entails. Like most gods, it does what it will, and cannot be questioned. Its acolytes think it is capable only of good things. It guarantees life and safety and freedom. It even guarantees law. Law grows from it. Then how can law question it?

Its power to do good is matched by its incapacity to do anything wrong. It cannot kill. Thwarting the god is what kills. If it seems to kill, that is only because the god’s bottomless appetite for death has not been adequately fed. The answer to problems caused by guns is more guns, millions of guns, guns everywhere, carried openly, carried secretly, in bars, in churches, in offices, in government buildings. Only the lack of guns can be a curse, not their beneficent omnipresence.

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:09:25am

re: #228 stpaulbear

Send him this. (via Balloon Juice)

Must…resist…nope, couldn’t do:

Zardoz opening

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:14:21am

re: #125 ozharas

Toledo?

Useless president, can’t even the basics right.

City in Ohio, sounds like “El Paso”.

FAIL.

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:17:13am
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Chrysicat  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:18:34am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:22:24am

re: #230 Feline Fearless Leader

City in Ohio, sounds like “El Paso”.

FAIL.

“Toledo” sounds like brown people…

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wrenchwench  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:25:48am

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Toledo” sounds like brown people…

Anybody can get through El Paso if they pay the Toledo.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:27:29am

Matt Bevin is running racist TV commercials railing about “open borders” and sanctuary cities (there are none in Kentucky) in his reelection campaign today.

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wrenchwench  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:28:54am

On Saturday, all the newsreaders I heard were saying ‘the WalMart’, like the locals do (some say ‘el WalMart’) but by Sunday, they were saying ‘A WalMart’, because there is more than one in El Paso.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:32:16am
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DangerMan  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:34:07am

make no mistake these shootings are terrorism
though not ‘classic’ terrorism (wow, how far we’ve come).

- it’s disjoint, unorganized, and doesn’t seem to have an actual political purpose or goal.
yes, i know we might say they have an ideology or whatever due to the screeds they post.

- the point of terrorism - stoking fear in the innocent to use as a tool to effect a political change isn’t what’s happening here

- sure they are sometimes targeting certain types of individuals
- overall they are just inflicting mostly random, purposeless, chaos.

and let’s also be clear: these people are cowards

in almost all circumstances of ‘mass’ killings, and a lot of other ones, - in addition to all the other things a gun does and a gun gets you, more than almost any other it is a cowards way to get what he wants / to win / to be in control

it creates distance/space - makes it a bit less personal and much easier to wreak havoc/death, terror, whatever

it’s the cowards way

certainly using a car into a crowd can be just as impersonal, but cars don’t have that innate terrorist effect, aren’t as assuredly deadly, etc

in these pro-active, planned cases (not self defense or heat of the moment arguments) they are cowards (never mind that the targets are children or the unarmed, or the unsuspecting, or whatever…).

On the killing method, this is complete cowardice.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:34:29am

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:35:00am
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Archangelus  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:35:50am

Would that Twitter allowed for more chars to further rip into such gun nuts…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:37:28am

re: #241 Archangelus

Would that Twitter allowed for more chars to further rip into such gun nuts…

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Leave guns alone! But treat all people with mental illness like future murderers.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:39:23am

re: #242 HappyWarrior

Leave guns alone! But treat all people with mental illness like future murderers.

Let the Romneybot get another upgrade and I’m sure he’ll shortly say that guns are people too.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:40:51am

So far today:

- These shooters are mentally ill, so we must prioritize executing them faster and with less process.

- We must protect ourselves by doing what the El Paso terrorist wanted.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:41:01am

re: #235 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Matt Bevin is running racist TV commercials railing about “open borders” and sanctuary cities (there are none in Kentucky) in his reelection campaign today.

Just need a little segment on violent video games and he’ll be all set.

/

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:41:48am

re: #242 HappyWarrior

Leave guns alone! But treat all people with mental illness like future murderers.

It’s why I want to turn the ol’ wingnut standby of “What law would have stopped this?!” back on them. If you truly believe that these gunmen were “mentally ill,” then what law would have stopped them?

I personally know how I’d answer, but I don’t believe that this was a matter of “mental illness.” Any more than it was “violent video games” or “fake news.”

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makeitstop  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:42:08am

My wife just informed me that the nephew of a co-worker was one of the victims in the Dayton shooting.

I hate that even peripherally, we have a personal connection to a mass shooting victim. It’s the second time this has happened - a fellow musician’s kids went to Sandy Hook.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:43:20am

re: #247 makeitstop

My wife just informed me that the nephew of a co-worker was one of the victims in the Dayton shooting.

I hate that even peripherally, we have a personal connection to a mass shooting victim. It’s the second time this has happened - a fellow musician’s kids went to Sandy Hook.

Had a cousin and many friends at VA Tech.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:45:39am

So what’s Trump’s solution to the mass shootings? Less immigrants.

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jaunte  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:46:37am
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Flying Squirrel Girl  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:47:09am

Don’t bother to look at your investment portfolio today. Your day is already crappy enough.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:47:28am

re: #241 Archangelus

Would that Twitter allowed for more chars to further rip into such gun nuts…

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10-1 odds that scope isn’t even sighted in to 3 feet of the target at 100 yards.

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jaunte  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:47:45am
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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:48:07am

Trump’s Twitter activity demonstrates the completely emptiness of his speech.

The latter is him taking his medicine, squirming and uncomfortable. The former is specifically eating the stuff he’s not supposedly to.

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Mike Lamb  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:48:23am

re: #241 Archangelus

Would that Twitter allowed for more chars to further rip into such gun nuts…

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It just occurred to me that it is quite ironic that the instant reaction from ammosexuals to calls for reasonable gun control is “You’re so smart…tell me the law that could have prevented this?” At the same time, these yahoos think that they can regulate anti-social, sociopathic/psyhopathic behavior, and racism out of existence.

And of course, the framing of this as a zero sum game is idiotc: well, if we can’t pass laws that will prevent ALL gun violence, then we shouldn’t do anything. Let’s tweak it to show how ridiculous it is: “well, we can’t have driving laws/design requirements that will prevent every accident/automobile injury, so we might as well do nothing”—-said no one ever.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:52:16am

re: #253 jaunte

Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but those gravestones are a little off in the height/width ratio for most gravestones.

It’s about the right ratio for a bullet though…

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:53:09am

re: #255 Mike Lamb

It just occurred to me that it is quite ironic that the instant reaction from ammosexuals to calls for reasonable gun control is “You’re so smart…tell me the law that could have prevented this?” At the same time, these yahoos think that they can regulate anti-social, sociopathic/psyhopathic behavior, and racism out of existence.

And of course, the framing of this as a zero sum game is idiotc: well, if we can’t pass laws that will prevent ALL gun violence, then we shouldn’t do anything. Let’s tweak it to show how ridiculous it is: “well, we can’t have driving laws/design requirements that will prevent every accident/automobile injury, so we might as well do nothing”—-said no one ever.

Nah, want to show the ridiculousness of their framing? Ask them to spell out a single law that would end 100% of “illegal immigration.” Even Trump doesn’t believe that the edifice to his ego would be 100% effective.

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:55:09am

re: #251 Flying Squirrel Girl

Don’t bother to look at your investment portfolio today. Your day is already crappy enough.

And let’s note that today’s freakout is not due to Trump’s actions, but entirely due to China’s. Whatever he’s gonna do in his ego-fueled need to one-up Beijing is gonna make today look downright cheerful.

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b.d.  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:56:15am
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:57:49am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:57:55am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:58:02am

Toledo. Fck me.

Holy Toledo!

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jaunte  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:58:07am

Just verifying. O’Connell’s official campaign account did indeed tweet that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 5, 2019 • 9:59:10am

Narrator: Actually, he’ll be on to something else in 15 minutes.

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:01:06am

So far, I’ve never met a wingnut who used the “mental illness” defense who didn’t think that the “solution” was to just lock them all up. Not better screening, not more programs to help them, not even spending on more counselors or better access to medications. Just throw them in the loony bin and lock the doors behind ya, because they’re “dangerous” and can’t be allowed out in public.

It goes without saying that none of them believe they’re in any way “mentally ill” because they don’t want to shoot anyone dead…today.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:01:27am

re: #264 Eclectic Cyborg

Narrator: Actually, he’ll be on to something else in 15 minutes.

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No you don’t. You’ll forget all about them as you attack Hispanics.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:02:55am

re: #265 Targetpractice

So far, I’ve never met a wingnut who used the “mental illness” defense who didn’t think that the “solution” was to just lock them all up.

It was under Reagan that they started cancelling the residential programs and turning them loose.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:03:59am

re: #263 jaunte

Just verifying. O’Connell’s official campaign account did indeed tweet that.

McConnell?

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:05:21am

re: #267 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It was under Reagan that they started cancelling the residential programs and turning them loose.

Ayep, though today they try to engage in historical revisionism by saying it was because they wanted to “restore rights” or “be humanitarian.” But the answer is (as ever) a purely political one: The cost of such programs was taking money from programs that conservatives supported.

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:06:17am

re: #255 Mike Lamb

It just occurred to me that it is quite ironic that the instant reaction from ammosexuals to calls for reasonable gun control is “You’re so smart…tell me the law that could have prevented this?” At the same time, these yahoos think that they can regulate anti-social, sociopathic/psyhopathic behavior, and racism out of existence.

And of course, the framing of this as a zero sum game is idiotc: well, if we can’t pass laws that will prevent ALL gun violence, then we shouldn’t do anything. Let’s tweak it to show how ridiculous it is: “well, we can’t have driving laws/design requirements that will prevent every accident/automobile injury, so we might as well do nothing”—-said no one ever.

Gun control wont stop all gun crime.

Doing nothing - or continuing to allow the status quo - isn’t stopping crime. Allowing still more guns into the public sphere isn’t stopping crime, let alone gun death rates or mass shootings.

Know what can and does reduce gun death rates?

Fewer guns.

Stronger gun control.

How do we know this? There’s empirical evidence - states with strong gun laws have lower per capita death rates than lax gun law states. Texas has a far higher per capita rate than NY or CA. The NY or CA standard should be the national standard, reducing gun deaths and all the costs associated with it.

Foreign countries have lower per capita gun death rates too, even as they have higher video game usage and similar mental health issues.

It’s the guns, and everything else is a deflection.

Eliminate the sales of semi auto weapons, the high capacity magazines/clips, and tax the hell out of bullets. Require annual licensing and periodic training, just as you’d need for a car. Require insurance for when your gun gets used in a crime or misused. Apply negligence crimes when someone underage shoots themselves or someone else with a licensed gun owner’s gun that wasn’t properly stored and secured.

Even a fraction of those changes can reduce gun deaths, and every reduction in gun deaths is a cost that society does not bear in a police state, the costs for health care.

The health care cost is estimated in the US at $46 billion annually. That’s right - $46 billion. Reduce gun violence by 10% and you could save $4.6 billion nationally. That’s money that taxpayers and insureds are paying.

Reducing the nationwide gun death rate is not insurmountable. It’s doable - adopting the NY or CA or MA standards would help achieve those goals. Gun buybacks would help.

But the GOP does not care. They’ve worshipped the gun so long they don’t care about public health or national security.

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:08:47am

White supremacy and mass shootings didn’t just start under Trump. Columbine shooters were white supremacists too. But what changed is that Trump is enabling and condoning with his explicit language, and we’re seeing an uptick in right wing domestic terrorism and targets that are chosen primarily because they are minorities, immigrants, or religious groups that aren’t white and/or Christian.

Trump’s the problem.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:08:49am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:09:02am

Important: Trump is now “on the record” for “condemning white supremacism”.

If there is a shooting that can be blamed on a Muslim or a confirmed leftist, he is going to go full medieval on them and claim that he is simply being “balanced”.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:11:01am

More good news.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:11:38am

re: #265 Targetpractice

So far, I’ve never met a wingnut who used the “mental illness” defense who didn’t think that the “solution” was to just lock them all up. Not better screening, not more programs to help them, not even spending on more counselors or better access to medications. Just throw them in the loony bin and lock the doors behind ya, because they’re “dangerous” and can’t be allowed out in public.

It goes without saying that none of them believe they’re in any way “mentally ill” because they don’t want to shoot anyone dead…today.

“Mentally ill” is another one of those words that doesn’t mean anything when they say it.

It’s just a place-holder for whatever they need to fit in there.

Want to disavow someone taking wingnut logic to its violent conclusion? Mentally ill.
Want to dismiss a critic as fundamentally and incontrovertibly unserious? Mentally ill.

I suspect if they ever did apply themselves to defining mental illness, their standards would be like those of the Soviets….

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:13:41am

I know how horribly painful it is to listen to Trump speak, but his monotone recitation of a teleprompter displaying 4 words at a time (because he is too vain to wear glasses) in between cocaine sniffs, tells you everything you need to know.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:15:08am

re: #276 The Pie Overlord!

I know how horribly painful it is to listen to Trump speak, but his monotone recitation of a teleprompter displaying 4 words at a time (because he is too vain to wear glasses) in between cocaine sniffs, tells you everything you need to know.

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So mental illness is the problem so execute them?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:15:35am

re: #274 NO SMOCKING GUN!

More good news.

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If you don’t know, Bitmitigate provides services to The Daily Stormer and Gab, and 8Chan was moving there.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:15:51am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

So mental illness is the problem so execute them?

Only the non-whites.

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:15:57am

re: #241 Archangelus

Would that Twitter allowed for more chars to further rip into such gun nuts…

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Seems that the initial tweet being ratioed to death wasn’t enough, she’s decided to double down:

But she may not have that rifle for much longer:

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:16:57am

re: #279 The Pie Overlord!

Only the non-whites.

Yeah.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:17:44am

re: #280 Targetpractice

Seems that the initial tweet being ratioed to death wasn’t enough, she’s decided to double down:

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Owning the libs by tweeting yourself breaking the law.

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:17:45am

re: #280 Targetpractice

Pwned. She really showed them.

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KGxvi  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:17:52am

re: #267 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It was under Reagan that they started cancelling the residential programs and turning them loose.

That was in large part because of a series of Supreme Court rulings from the mid-70s through the early-80s. Under O’Connor v Donaldson 422 U.S. 563 (1975) the Court held that a finding of mental illness was not enough to hold someone against their will. Addington v. Texas, 441 U.S. 418 (1979) raised the burden of proof to clear and convincing evidence for involuntary commitment. Those are just two in a whole series of cases that ultimately led to many people being “released from mental institutions.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:18:02am
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:18:26am

re: #280 Targetpractice

Seems that the initial tweet being ratioed to death wasn’t enough, she’s decided to double down:

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I did not know straw and dust came in chip bags and Pepsi cups.

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:18:39am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

So mental illness is the problem so execute them?

I think we all know by now that if Donny actually does pursue this shit, “mental illness” will magically be stretched to encompass every group that he personally opposes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:19:31am

re: #286 The Pie Overlord!

I did not know straw and dust came in chip bags and Pepsi cups.

me either…apparently I do farm truck all wrong

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gocart mozart  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:20:00am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:20:26am
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Belafon  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:20:27am

re: #242 HappyWarrior

Leave guns alone! But treat all people with mental illness males with white skin like future murderers.

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KGxvi  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:20:42am

re: #275 The Ghost of a Flea

“Mentally ill” is another one of those words that doesn’t mean anything when they say it.

It’s just a place-holder for whatever they need to fit in there.

Want to disavow someone taking wingnut logic to its violent conclusion? Mentally ill.
Want to dismiss a critic as fundamentally and incontrovertibly unserious? Mentally ill.

I suspect if they ever did apply themselves to defining mental illness, their standards would be like those of the Soviets….

I hear that from my family quite a bit… “they’re sick” or “they’re crazy”… and when I point out that, no, in fact, they left a manifesto proclaiming their beliefs, I get “you have to be crazy to shoot up a bunch of people like that.”

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:20:54am

Personally think the most egregious bit of that photo, as someone else noted in the original tweet thread, that the dust cover is hanging open. Consider AR-15s are notoriously finicky about being kept clean, she’s just asking for a jam at the absolute worst moment.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:22:04am

re: #286 The Pie Overlord!

I did not know straw and dust came in chip bags and Pepsi cups.

I did not know that someone needed a semi-automatic AR-15 clone to deal with varmits.

My brother-in-law living in Colorado had a rifle for dealing with coyotes, etc. Was a simple bolt action rifle that fires the same .223 (5.56mm) round as that rifle. Has a scope and it is perfectly functional for the necessary role. Odds are that if you miss with the first round the target is running very rapidly away from you and you are not going to hit it by tossing more lead downrange at it.

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:22:49am

re: #292 KGxvi

I hear that from my family quite a bit… “they’re sick” or “they’re crazy”… and when I point out that, no, in fact, they left a manifesto proclaiming their beliefs, I get “you have to be crazy to shoot up a bunch of people like that.”

That’s the single-minded bit they always spout: “Only somebody who’s crazy would want to kill other people!” But once you actually start providing examples of professions where you will be called upon to kill other people, the bar suddenly shoots into the fucking stratosphere.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:23:55am

The pivot to blaming video games—long term, not just recently—is also interesting because its reminiscent of how fascist hierarchy expands qualification for membership to gain power, then contracts membership when it has what it wants.

Also, given what we’ve seen from Gamergate, if this statement is sincere you’re losing out on…sad twats that will probably stay in the fold because they’re just reactionary-gross in spite of their cultivated “gamer” identity .

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:24:37am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

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How dare she try to prevent this from happening again.//

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:25:10am

Man they are afraid to death of Kamala.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:26:49am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

How dare libtards raise money on such a tragedy ALSO DONATE MORE MONEYS TO POTUS AFTER IMMIGRANT ENTERS US!!!

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:28:20am

Actions v. empty platitudes.

Trump’s actions: enable white supremacists and right wing domestic terorrists
Trump’s empty platitudes: condemn said white supremacists and tie immigration reform to gun control

Trump actions: tying immigration to gun control, he gives white supremacists best of both - knowing no gun control will happen and signaling intent to further white supremacist agenda of denying nonwhites right to immigrate here legally.

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:28:50am

re: #294 Feline Fearless Leader

I did not know that someone needed a semi-automatic AR-15 clone to deal with varmits.

My brother-in-law living in Colorado had a rifle for dealing with coyotes, etc. Was a simple bolt action rifle that fires the same .223 (5.56mm) round as that rifle. Has a scope and it is perfectly functional for the necessary role. Odds are that if you miss with the first round the target is running very rapidly away from you and you are not going to hit it by tossing more lead downrange at it.

IMHO, if you can’t get them with the first shot, especially if you shell out for a scope that’s probably worth more than the gun it’s mounted to, then you’re a piss-poor marksman and shouldn’t be trusted with anything more lethal than a water pistol. Unless she’s dealing with coyotes wearing body armor, then I’m guessing that 30rd mag is because she thinks putting more lead downrange is the way to compensate.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:29:06am

I posted this to Facebook:

It’s a simple IF:THEN equation.

IF you insist that the current system of easy access to increasingly deadly weapons must be maintained, THEN you are accepting the current reality of daily mass shootings as an acceptable price to pay for that access.

You can try to blame all sorts of other things, but really - lots and lots of other countries have all those things. But they don’t have semiautomatic rifles and high-cap magazines available to any one who manages to reach the age of 18 without being convicted of a felony.

20 first graders murdered in Sandy Hook; 59 concertgoers murdered in Las Vegas; 9 black churchgoers murdered in South Carolina; 11 Jews murdered at temple in Pittsburgh; 20 murdered at Walmart in El Paso; 9 murdered in Dayton. If you insist on keeping the current system, you are saying these are an acceptable price to pay for your convenience.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:29:37am
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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:31:42am

re: #304 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I thought it was a still from a trailer for “The London Job”.

;)

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:32:04am

OY!

^DJI 25,775.83 -709.18 -2.68%

The circuit breakers wouldn’t kick in unless we get 7% drop, which would pause the markets.

Trade war woes.

Go figure. Trump’s watching the 1/3 of the stock market gains from 2019 go poof in an afternoon.

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DangerMan  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:33:32am

re: #255 Mike Lamb

It just occurred to me that it is quite ironic that the instant reaction from ammosexuals to calls for reasonable gun control is “You’re so smart…tell me the law that could have prevented this?” At the same time, these yahoos think that they can regulate anti-social, sociopathic/psyhopathic behavior, and racism out of existence.

And of course, the framing of this as a zero sum game is idiotc: well, if we can’t pass laws that will prevent ALL gun violence, then we shouldn’t do anything. Let’s tweak it to show how ridiculous it is: “well, we can’t have driving laws/design requirements that will prevent every accident/automobile injury, so we might as well do nothing”—-said no one ever.

The goal is to reduce the overall number of deaths over time
And nothing can predict or prevent the next mass shooting, ever

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:33:37am

More info for our legal eagles:

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BlueGrl21  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:33:40am

re: #292 KGxvi

I hear that from my family quite a bit… “they’re sick” or “they’re crazy”… and when I point out that, no, in fact, they left a manifesto proclaiming their beliefs, I get “you have to be crazy to shoot up a bunch of people like that.”

This is the thing that people seem to have a whole lot of trouble understanding.

As people have said, mental illness is a very wide umbrella. I have one of the nastier ones and I know how bad it can get. Some of these shooters may very well have had an illness underneath it. But that doesn’t mean the mental illness causes the behavior. It can be expressed 1,000 different ways. Some of us start seeing things and hearing voices. Some get paranoid. Some get suicidal. They don’t pick up guns and start killing, even at their sickest. Because they have not latched onto these ideologies and grievances, even when sanity is in flux.

So why do these white males choose to express the mental illness they (might) carry via well planned-out attacks with military-style guns and body armor with manifestos and symbolic intent? Well….gee. What could they be latching onto?

Getting someone into treatment (which is not what is being proposed for these shooters) would not “fix them.” They’re not sick like I am. You can’t give someone lithium for white supremacy.

So we’ve all said this but as someone who understands mental illness more than i would ever want to, who grew up surrounded by it, who works with the mentally ill every day, you can’t medicate hate or resolve it in therapy.

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:37:27am

And now for something completely different… it definitely put a smile on my face (and listen to the commentary too…)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:38:46am

re: #306 lawhawk

OY!

The circuit breakers wouldn’t kick in unless we get 7% drop, which would pause the markets.

Trade war woes.

Go figure. Trump’s watching the 1/3 of the stock market gains from 2019 go poof in an afternoon.

In addition to China devaluing their currency, I saw a rumor that the government was instructing state buyers not to buy US agricultural products. Anyone seen confirmation of that?

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DangerMan  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:39:29am

re: #265 Targetpractice

So far, I’ve never met a wingnut who used the “mental illness” defense who didn’t think that the “solution” was to just lock them all up. Not better screening, not more programs to help them, not even spending on more counselors or better access to medications. Just throw them in the loony bin and lock the doors behind ya, because they’re “dangerous” and can’t be allowed out in public.

It goes without saying that none of them believe they’re in any way “mentally ill” because they don’t want to shoot anyone dead…today.

No not because they’re dangerous

Because it’s a simplistic solution that doesn’t affect *them*

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jaunte  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:41:39am

re: #301 Targetpractice

I’m surrounded by coyotes in my little bit of rural Texas, and they are not willing to stick around at all, much less threaten to attack, if they see or smell a human walking around.

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:41:40am

re: #311 Blind Frog Belly White

Confirmed. Trump’s idiotic trade war is fucking over his farm base.

China is stepping away from further U.S. farm imports after President Donald Trump ratcheted up tensions with its biggest agricultural trading partner last week.

The Chinese government has asked its state-owned enterprises to suspend purchases of U.S. agricultural products, people familiar with the situation said. Also, privately run Chinese crushers that had received retaliatory-tariff waivers on American soybeans from Beijing have stopped buying the commodity due to uncertainty over trade relations, other people said.

Chinese buyers have turned to South America for more of their supplies after Trump on Thursday proposed adding 10% tariffs on another $300 billion in imports from Sept. 1, marking an abrupt escalation of the trade war between the world’s largest economies shortly after the two sides restarted talks. Bureaucrats in Beijing were stunned by Trump’s announcement, according to Chinese officials who’ve been involved in the trade talks, and Beijing has pledged to respond if the U.S. insists on adding the extra tariffs.

China’s state-run agricultural firms have now stopped buying American farm goods, and are waiting to see how talks progress, the people said, declining to be identified as they’re not authorized to speak to the media. Meanwhile, the private crushers haven’t received notices from the government on any policy change since the U.S. escalated tensions last Thursday, people said.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:43:49am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:46:54am

re: #315 DodgerFan1988

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Fuck her. She’s been pushing the same nativist crap the killer did. You own part of this Tomi.

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:48:38am

re: #313 jaunte

I’m surrounded by coyotes in my little bit of rural Texas, and they are not willing to stick around at all, much less threaten to attack, if they see or smell a human walking around.

She has even less reason to fear coyotes because she’s a grass seed farmer. So if she’s shooting coyotes, odds are it’s not in protection of livestock or her family.

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Kilroy was here  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:50:41am

re: #317 Targetpractice

She has even less reason to fear coyotes because she’s a grass seed farmer. So if she’s shooting coyotes, odds are it’s not in protection of livestock or her family.

Coburg is 10 mile from U of O. Dangerous liberals and students live in Eugene Oregon. Scary.

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:51:07am

re: #317 Targetpractice

Seed farmer? She’d want the coyotes there to go after voles, prairie dogs, and other burrowing critters that could undermine her farmed goods. Seems rather counterproductive to kill the critters that keep vermin in check.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:51:33am

re: #315 DodgerFan1988

It’s real simple: What is the proper response to an “invasion” of “rapists, murderers, drug dealers, and gang members” that the government can’t stop? You shoot them. So, you can’t use that rhetoric and then say you’re shocked - shocked! - to find anti-immigrant violence going on here.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:54:36am

re: #320 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s real simple: What is the proper response to an “invasion” of “rapists, murderers, drug dealers, and gang members” that the government can’t stop? You shoot them. So, you can’t use that rhetoric and then say you’re shocked - shocked! - to find anti-immigrant violence going on here.

And Trump has even humored people in his crowds who suggest that. They own this.

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William Lewis  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:55:07am

re: #319 lawhawk

Seed farmer? She’d want the coyotes there to go after voles, prairie dogs, and other burrowing critters that could undermine her farmed goods. Seems rather counterproductive to kill the critters that keep vermin in check.

Varmint hunting can be much like the zombie targets that are popular in certain circles, especially when president Obama’s face is on them. Pure racist wish fulfillment.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:57:42am

re: #311 Blind Frog Belly White

In addition to China devaluing their currency, I saw a rumor that the government was instructing state buyers not to buy US agricultural products. Anyone seen confirmation of that?

No confirmation, but Czech media is reporting the same thing.

You know, who could have predicated that electing a failed businessman could lead to instability in the global financial markets. If only there has been some detectable pattern of behavior that could have predicted this outcome.

Everything this guy has touched has failed.

I’m gonna go out on a limb here: Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States, is likely going to be remembered as the President who crashed the US economy and started the second Great Depression.

I’m predicting Dow under 12,000, at minimum 9% unemployment, and an average of 500,000 to 750,000 job losses per month by Election Day 2020.

And there isn’t a goddamn thing anybody will be able to do about it.

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:57:54am

Fucking incompetent white supremacists.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:59:07am
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jaunte  Aug 5, 2019 • 10:59:40am

re: #324 lawhawk

Trump’s addled brain saw Texas and Ohio coming up in the prompter and mashed it into “Toledo.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:00:14am

asshat

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:00:19am

re: #322 William Lewis

Varmint hunting can be much like the zombie targets that are popular in certain circles, especially when president Obama’s face is on them. Pure racist wish fulfillment.

Well, but livestock breaking legs in gopher holes is an actual problem. My friend in Santa Maria showed me a couple places on the cattle ranch where he had hunting permission where the ground squirrel colonies had completely swiss-cheesed a hillside. But he used a scoped bolt-action .223 off a rest for that, not an AR15.

WRT coyotes, some places they are afraid of people. Others, they aren’t. there were a number of aggressive coyote encounters on a nearby trail, because the coyotes have no particular reason to fear humans there.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:00:30am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh bullshit.

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:00:47am

I’ve an elder cousin who owns his own little plot of land out in the middle of nowhere, KY. And he also has a collection of various rifles, both of the bolt-action and semi-auto variety. But he’s also an avid hunter and keeps his rifles locked up in a gun safe when they’re not being used. Though he did boast one time about shooting a deer that had strayed onto his property from his bathroom…which I chalk up to being a redneck. And while he has shot the odd coyote or two, it was after they strayed onto his property and presented a danger to his family.

I’ve never known for him to drive around with a loaded rifle on the passenger seat, and if I ever learned he did such would probably be compelled to smack some damned sense into him. That’s assuming our grandmother didn’t get to his fool ass first.

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jaunte  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:00:52am

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

MOAR DEATH!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:01:30am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:01:43am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yes, it was certainly a new tone…flat, disinterested, and totally full of shit.

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Belafon  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:02:01am

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

asshat

Strangely, no white person will ever be convicted of a hate crime. Blacks, on the other hand, will have any shooting of a white person (note not plural) declared a mass murder hate crime.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:02:08am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:02:34am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, he set a different tone - monotone, flat affect, reading the teleprompter because he had to.

Just wait a day or two till he hears the media criticizing his insincerity. His old tone will be back with a vengeance.

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:02:34am

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

asshat

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It’s the “hate crimes” bit that has me internal alarms going off like a damned air raid siren.

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:02:38am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

He read what the fucking idiot advisers posted to the teleprompter. They’re just as incompetent as Trump.

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plansbandc  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:03:16am

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

Words can’t express my utter contempt for him.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:03:22am

re: #308 Targetpractice

Thing I’ve observed about the people in this country that are most confident and vocal about carrying firearms is that they ultimately decide they don’t have to follow the basics rule of safe handling.

The conclusion I’ve come to is that they’ve become so deeply engaged with the symbolism of guns, and thus the “meaning” of carrying that they’ve almost completely disengaged from the fact its a tool…with necessary precautions for safe use…and specifically a tool for killing…which you might think would merit pause and deeper consideration of safety.

But it doesn’t because it’s all about the ego trip. Hence the posturing and posing; hence the number of variations on “Hypothetically I’m protecting you, you better show deference” statements but also “I’m prepared to kill, aren’t you intimidated?” statements. For a bunch of these folks, negligence can’t happen because “gun person” is their cultivated identity—a fixed trait—independent of the actual daily grind of safely handling a firearm and the completely separate task of training how to use it properly in embedded circumstances.

(and all that’s separate from the fucked up way that “right to bear arms” has becomes a euphemism for “entitlement to kill, in keeping with reactionary hierarchy” that also makes these people dangerous)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:03:38am

re: #335 Charles Johnson

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If she were smart, she’d run in a safe Republican district because Matt Gaetz is going to keep on getting re-elected.

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jimmyvluv4u  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:04:22am

re: #335 Charles Johnson

I thought she’d be a *little* less up-front that this was just a stunt to try to get back on Twitter/Facebook.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:04:26am

re: #328 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, but livestock breaking legs in gopher holes is an actual problem. My friend in Santa Maria showed me a couple places on the cattle ranch where he had hunting permission where the ground squirrel colonies had completely swiss-cheesed a hillside. But he used a scoped bolt-action .223 off a rest for that, not an AR15.

WRT coyotes, some places they are afraid of people. Others, they aren’t. there were a number of aggressive coyote encounters on a nearby trail, because the coyotes have no particular reason to fear humans there.

My brother-in-law raised horses. So he was plinking ground squirrels and marmots with the .223 (or a .22 LR for some). And he initially left the badgers alone since they ate the squirrels until their burrows became a threat as well.

My brother and I on walks encountered coyotes or foxes a few times and left them alone since they were hunting the ground squirrels as well. Had one once come within 20’ of us since we were down wind and had gone still when we saw it. At that range my brother said ‘bang’ and the coyote took off like it had been fired out of a cannon.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:04:27am

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Today, I am also directing the Department of Justice to propose legislation ensuring that those who commit hate crimes and mass murders face the DEATH PENALTY - and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay.”

Because people who go out to commit mass murder, generally expecting to be killed in the process, will be deterred by the fear of being killed humanely years later.

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William Lewis  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:05:30am

re: #294 Feline Fearless Leader

I did not know that someone needed a semi-automatic AR-15 clone to deal with varmits.

My brother-in-law living in Colorado had a rifle for dealing with coyotes, etc. Was a simple bolt action rifle that fires the same .223 (5.56mm) round as that rifle. Has a scope and it is perfectly functional for the necessary role. Odds are that if you miss with the first round the target is running very rapidly away from you and you are not going to hit it by tossing more lead downrange at it.

Sure. Now bolt action rifles are the best and most versatile hunting rifles out there. But they didn’t become popular till army exposure in WWI. Yet semiautomatic rifles did not have the same surge after WWII because bolt actions were cheaper and better.

Now the manufacturers push “modern sporting rifles ” based on the AR pattern as the replacement for the bolt actions that cost more to make and don’t wear out as fast. They need the market, lots of young porple are primed to think an AR is appropriate for hunting from video games movies and even endless tours in the military.

Banning any rifle with a removable magazine and that holds more than 10 rounds would be a great place to start.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:08:05am
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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:08:16am

re: #344 Blind Frog Belly White

Because people who go out to commit mass murder, generally expecting to be killed in the process, will be deterred by the fear of being killed humanely years later.

Hence the “without years of needless delay.” I’m rather curious just how he intends to get such a law past SCOTUS without relying upon pack loyalty.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:08:21am
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DangerMan  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:08:24am

re: #340 The Ghost of a Flea

Thing I’ve observed about the people in this country that are most confident and vocal about carrying firearms is that they ultimately decide they don’t have to follow the basics rule of safe handling.

The conclusion I’ve come to is that they’ve become so deeply engaged with the symbolism of guns, and thus the “meaning” of carrying that they’ve almost completely disengaged from the fact its a tool…with necessary precautions for safe use…and specifically a tool for killing…which you might think would merit pause and deeper consideration of safety.

But it doesn’t because it’s all about the ego trip. Hence the posturing and posing; hence the number of variations on “Hypothetically I’m protecting you, you better show deference” statements but also “I’m prepared to kill, aren’t you intimidated?” statements. For a bunch of these folks, negligence can’t happen because “gun person” is their cultivated identity—a fixed trait—independent of the actual daily grind of safely handling a firearm and the completely separate task of training how to use it properly in embedded circumstances.

(and all that’s separate from the fucked up way that “right to bear arms” has becomes a euphemism for “entitlement to kill, in keeping with reactionary hierarchy” that also makes these people dangerous)

100%

And that’s why we can’t even get them to agree to “control your weapon at all times” and “take total personal responsibility when you don’t”

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Belafon  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:08:44am
The New York Times has a story up on the struggles faced by the FBI in getting lawmakers and the current administration to take the threat of domestic terrorism seriously, but it’s the quotes by former FBI terrorism-case supervisor Dave Gomez that are the most chilling. Referring explicitly to the “white supremacist movement,” Gomez tells the Times, “There’s some reluctance among agents to bring forth an investigation that targets what the president perceives as his base. It’s a no-win situation for the FBI agent or supervisor.”

dailykos.com

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William Lewis  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:09:05am

re: #328 Blind Frog Belly White

Key phrase ” can be”.

Her grass doesn’t fear broken legs but rodents are a threat to her crop
‘Yotes eat said rodents.

She just enjoys killing.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:09:50am

re: #348 Charles Johnson

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That’s not a misspelling. And man Trumpers are a creepy bunch. HE LOVES US!

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:10:06am

re: #338 lawhawk

He read what the fucking idiot advisers posted to the teleprompter. They’re just as incompetent as Trump.

His is nearsighted but too vain to wear glasses, so the teleprompter displays no more than 4 words at a time in the largest font available. He reads in a monotone because he doesn’t know the context & is too lazy to read the speech ahead of time.

Did I mention that he’s probably dyslexic?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:10:13am

re: #345 William Lewis

Sure. Now bolt action rifles are the best and most versatile hunting rifles out there. But they didn’t become popular till army exposure in WWI. Yet semiautomatic rifles did not have the same surge after WWII because bolt actions were cheaper and better.

Now the manufacturers push “modern sporting rifles ” based on the AR pattern as the replacement for the bolt actions that cost more to make and don’t wear out as fast. They need the market, lots of young porple are primed to think an AR is appropriate for hunting from video games movies and even endless tours in the military.

Banning any rifle with a removable magazine and that holds more than 10 rounds would be a great place to start.

I was shocked to learn what the Dayton shooter was using - that double-drum, 100 round magazine. What’s the reasoning behind that even being legal?

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Decatur Deb  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:10:24am

re: #348 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Have to read that like it was said: in one breath of helium.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:10:51am

re: #354 Blind Frog Belly White

I was shocked to learn what the Dayton shooter was using - that double-drum, 100 round magazine. What’s the reasoning behind that even being legal?

Freedumb

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:10:55am

re: #348 Charles Johnson

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If that’s not a Russian troll, it’s an amazing facsimile.

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:11:48am

Mass shootings didn’t happen in the 1950s and 1960s?

Who the fuck makes this shit up?

Did they happen with the same regularity? Nope, because there were far fewer guns and far fewer weapons like the AR-15 in wide circulation.

The NRA and the gun makers made ever more dangerous weapons available for mass usage (and carnage).

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:12:39am

Speaking of varmints, I just found a ripe tomato (just starting to blush!) ON THE GROUND WITH BITE MARKS IN IT, probably from the fucking badgers who live underneath the back deck.

They bit into it, then spit it out just to fuck with me.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:12:59am

re: #357 Targetpractice

If that’s not a Russian troll, it’s an amazing facsimile.

Yeah I like how getting Toledo messed up with Dayton is “code.” Oh it’s code all right. Code that Trump and his administration are lazy jackasses.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:13:10am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:13:11am

re: #351 William Lewis

Key phrase ” can be”.

Her grass doesn’t fear broken legs but rodents are a threat to her crop
‘Yotes eat said rodents.

She just enjoys killing.

Yotes eat housecats and will attack and kill even larger dogs. And just because you are a seed farmer doesn’t mean you don’t have your own chickens.

Basically I don’t think this line of argument is productive.

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jaunte  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:13:11am

Now he’ll force himself on her.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:13:15am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

O’Donnell is getting ratioed to hell and back on that Tweet.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:13:30am

re: #358 lawhawk

Mass shootings didn’t happen in the 1950s and 1960s?

Who the fuck makes this shit up?

Did they happen with the same regularity? Nope, because there were far fewer guns and far fewer weapons like the AR-15 in wide circulation.

The NRA and the gun makers made ever more dangerous weapons available for mass usage (and carnage).

Nothing bad happened until we banned prayer.//

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Kilroy was here  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:13:55am

My sides hurt from reading the responses to her last couple of tweets.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:13:59am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

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OFFS grow the fuck up dudes.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:14:00am

re: #354 Blind Frog Belly White

I was shocked to learn what the Dayton shooter was using - that double-drum, 100 round magazine. What’s the reasoning behind that even being legal?

Becauz the Frounding Fawthers! sez so!!! shall not be infringed!!!! Suk, it. libtartd!!

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lawhawk  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:14:11am

re: #359 The Pie Overlord!

Nuke it from orbit. Just to be sure. /there’s no killing like overkilling

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:14:32am

re: #363 jaunte

He’s going to be tempted to attack her city.

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jaunte  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:14:34am

re: #365 HappyWarrior

The Almighty, Creator and inherent in all things, was “chased from the public square.”

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:14:49am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:15:14am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sadly, this is really easy to believe. I mean, Trump’s making money selling plastic straws to his followers to prove they’re manly men who don’t care about the environment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:15:33am
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plansbandc  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:16:42am

re: #359 The Pie Overlord!

That’s some serious dirty pool.

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Belafon  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:17:19am

re: #363 jaunte

Now he’ll force himself on her.

There is way too much brown for him to visit there.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:17:28am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

The implication being most straight guys are environmentally wasteful assholes who would love nothing more than to roll coal in their front yard.

JFC.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:17:36am
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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:17:41am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

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In my case, it’s not that I fear being viewed as “gay,” it’s because my short term memory would make a goldfish laugh. I’ve gone to the store on numerous occasions only to realize I left the damned bags at home.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:18:11am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

New research suggests that some men avoid “green” behavior —like using a reusable shopping bag at the grocery store— because they don’t want to be perceived as gay. bit.ly

We have been raised to express our manhood and our patriotism in terms of how many resources we consume.

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:18:33am

re: #359 The Pie Overlord!

Speaking of varmints, I just found a ripe tomato (just starting to blush!) ON THE GROUND WITH BITE MARKS IN IT, probably from the fucking badgers who live underneath the back deck.

They bit into it, then spit it out just to fuck with me.

Two words: Scorched Earth.

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William Lewis  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:19:06am

re: #369 lawhawk

Nuke it from orbit. Just to be sure. /there’s no killing like overkilling

Maxim 37: There is no overkill; there is only “Open Fire” and “I need to reload.”

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Dr. Matt  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:19:17am

re: #359 The Pie Overlord!

Speaking of varmints, I just found a ripe tomato (just starting to blush!) ON THE GROUND WITH BITE MARKS IN IT, probably from the fucking badgers who live underneath the back deck.

They bit into it, then spit it out just to fuck with me.

Wolverines are good at destroying Badgers.

:)

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Targetpractice  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:19:36am

re: #382 William Lewis

Maxim 37: There is no overkill; there is only “Open Fire” and “I need to reload.”

MOAR DAKKA!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:19:57am

re: #359 The Pie Overlord!

Speaking of varmints, I just found a ripe tomato (just starting to blush!) ON THE GROUND WITH BITE MARKS IN IT, probably from the fucking badgers who live underneath the back deck.

They bit into it, then spit it out just to fuck with me.

Badgers? We don’t need no steenkin’ badgers!

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DangerMan  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:21:08am

re: #378 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Winner winner….

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MsJ  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:22:14am

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

Today, I am also directing the Department of Justice to propose legislation ensuring that those who commit hate crimes and mass murders face the DEATH PENALTY - and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay.

The DOJ proposing legislation? Really?

Deliver death quickly (which assumes decisively) and without any, ya know, legal appeals and all that.

Constitution…bah! Old piece of paper. Let me wipe my ass with it.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:22:58am

re: #363 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Now he’ll force himself on her.

Just to prove he’s not a racist.

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terraincognita  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:24:22am

re: #383 Dr. Matt

Except when it involves a ball…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:25:00am

re: #386 DangerMan

Winner winner….

[Embedded content]

“The White House Reception Committee greeted the Prime rib roast Minister, and I do the cha-cha like a sissy girl. I “lika”… do… da cha-cha.”

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jaunte  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:25:16am

re: #380 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have been raised to express our manhood and our patriotism in terms of how many resources we consume.


“Let your eyes glaze over as you look at this “farmhouse” - the more you look at it the less sense it makes. What are they farming, you ask? Why, turf grass of course!”

mcmansionhell.com

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:25:40am

re: #383 Dr. Matt

Wolverines are good at destroying Badgers.

:)

Yeah no, not bringing a pack of Wolverines into my yard.

Some Spartans maybe?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:26:06am

re: #391 jaunte

[Embedded content]

“Let your eyes glaze over as you look at this “farmhouse” - the more you look at it the less sense it makes. What are they farming, you ask? Why, turf grass of course!”mcmansionhell.com

“MORE COWBELL GABLES!”

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:26:49am

re: #393 Blind Frog Belly White

“MORE COWBELL GABLES!”

The House of Eleventy Gables

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:27:41am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:29:09am

re: #364 Eclectic Cyborg

O’Donnell is getting ratioed to hell and back on that Tweet.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:29:14am

re: #394 The Pie Overlord!

The House of Eleventy Gables

This is why, when I was Back East for Dad’s memorial, I was drooling over old houses, mostly the big, square brick sort like the one I grew up in. I decided, if we move back there when I retire, and we get a bigger house, it needs to have a foyer and formal entry hall with staircase and French doors leading to LR and DR on opposite sides. No negotiation.

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DangerMan  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:30:14am

thegreatpoolpondconversion - 190804 edition ————————>

(quack)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:30:28am
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jaunte  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:32:42am

Future Harassers of America

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DangerMan  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:33:30am

re: #390 Blind Frog Belly White

“The White House Reception Committee greeted the Prime rib roast Minister, and I do the cha-cha like a sissy girl. I “lika”… do… da cha-cha.”

mrs dm said he’d read “”sour pickles need to” - because it’s 4 words, and would have no idea what he said or (of course) what was coming next

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:34:03am

heh

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:38:32am

re: #398 DangerMan

thegreatpoolpondconversion - 190804 edition ————————>

When The Younger Boy was, well - younger, we got him a Red Eared Slider, because he loved turtles. It was just a small thing, no more than 2” across the carapace.

Then we learned you really need a serious aquarium filter/pump with those guys, so we got that.

Then he got bigger. And we got another one, because a friend had one her kids no longer cared about.

They got bigger. And bigger. Now they’re the size of soup plates. We have them in separate big-ass tanks, with big-ass filter/pump things.

Mrs. FBW thought, a couple years back, that we should just build a pond in the back yard for them. She and the boys started digging one, thinking all you need to do is dig a hole and fill it with water.

So, being a researcher, I started researching what you ACTUALLY need to do to make a pond for a couple soup plate-sized RES’s. You need a liner. You need some containment for the turtles themselves. You need deep areas for them to get away from racketycoons, and a beach for them to pull themselves up onto, to dry out and sunbathe. You need an EVEN BIGGER filter/pump. And you have to figure out how you’re going to hide the electrical cords you need to run the thing.

That put the kibosh on the pond. But we still have the hole - a 1’ deep, 10’ wide depression in the yard.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:39:49am

re: #389 terraincognita

Except when it involves a ball…

riiiiiight….

sports-reference.com
google.com;;

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HappyWarrior  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:40:24am

re: #400 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Future Harassers of America

Future Kavanaughs.

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marcusgorillius  Aug 5, 2019 • 11:56:28am

re: #400 jaunte

Looks like a loaf of spoiled white bread.

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MsJ  Aug 5, 2019 • 12:00:28pm

re: #342 jimmyvluv4u

I thought she’d be a *little* less up-front that this was just a stunt to try to get back on Twitter/Facebook.

Once a troll, always a troll.

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makeitstop  Aug 5, 2019 • 12:09:17pm

re: #328 Blind Frog Belly White

WRT coyotes, some places they are afraid of people. Others, they aren’t. there were a number of aggressive coyote encounters on a nearby trail, because the coyotes have no particular reason to fear humans there.

When we went to Nova Scotia a couple of years ago, they had warning signs about what to do if you run into coyotes on the beach. Apparently, Canadian coyotes ain’t afraid of no hoomins.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 5, 2019 • 1:36:43pm

The kitty is not pleased with the salad on offer.

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Old Liberal  Aug 5, 2019 • 4:56:54pm

re: #42 Joe Bacon 🌹

And Tom Brokaw chimes in with the Both Sides Do It bullshit.

Did I expect anything else from this has been Presstitute?

Nope.

See hitler invaded all of Europe and the British bombed Germany in 1940. Both sides.


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