When Trump Is Gone, Don’t Let Right-Wingers Pretend They Were Innocent

Like the Germans that lived near Nazi death camps, they will claim “We didn’t know.” BUT THEY DID.
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A few years ago, after the marches in Charlottesville, I added (extinguisher of tiki torches) to my nym here. I’ve made various other changes over the years, such as when I snarked on the non-existent massacre at Bowling Green. But I kinda let this little comment ride, because it reflects how I feel about America right now, and our duty as decent citizens to unite against the growing white supremacist hate.

A day ago, it was noted that Trump cannot label these mass shootings as terrorism, because to do so would implicate his followers as terrorists, and himself as the inciter-in-chief:

“This is a clear manifestation of the political discourse that has taken place in the country over the past two years or so,” one Department of Homeland Security (DHS) official told The Daily Beast. “It cannot be blamed on mental health. This is an ideology-driven hate crime. This is terrorism and the White House has trouble labeling it as such. It is very frustrating.

And then there’s this today:

“How far is it from Trump’s saying this ‘is an invasion’ to the shooter in El Paso declaring ‘his attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas?’ Not far at all,” Biden will say. “In both clear language and in code, this president has fanned the flames of white supremacy in this nation.”

It is tempting to blame this all on Trump.

But Trump is just one man. It is the right-wing news media that give him cover by lying to their audiences. It is those audiences of gullible frightened old white people who eagerly drink up the hate.

What Joaquin Castro has done has to be just the beginning. We need to name-and-shame each and every one of Trump’s enthusiastic supporters. By this point they know.

They fucking KNOW.

No letting them cling to the excuses that the Germans living near the concentration camps, that they “didn’t know what was happening and now that they do, they are shocked.”

Generallismo Francisco Franco’s followers were allowed to live their lives openly, without fear of reprisal. This is being re-evaluated in Spain - FINALLY.

They must be held accountable for what they have done, for what they are doing, for what they will do. They must not be let off the hook for this. Not like the “pacto de olvido” in Spain that has allowed Franco’s sick & deviant supporters to pretend that while bad things happened, sure, that’s all in the past, and besides the Other Guys did bad stuff too…

We must drag these evil Trump supporters out into the full glare of media name & shame. We must humiliate them. We must hang Trump around their necks and stigmatize them so that they live their every day henceforth in a state of deep guilt and embarassment.

What Joaquin Castro is doing must be only the first step in this process.

REP JOAQUIN CASTRO: I’ve heard so many stories from folks the last few years, but in particular the last few months as his campaign has started to intensify, about how they don’t feel safe. These are brown-skinned people that can’t hide their skin color. They can’t hide themselves in public. He’s made them a constant target. they can’t get away from that. Every time they go outside, they’re fearful. So, yeah, you’ve got a lot of people in this country that are living in fear because of this president. And what I’m asking for is for people who are making contributions to that effort to think twice about it, and I’m directly asking the president to stop spending money on campaign ads that target an entire community and inspire shooters like the one in El Paso to go do what he did.

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473 comments

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 7, 2019 • 11:57:25am

I lived in Spain after Franco died.

Coins still circulated with Franco’s image (they were never withdrawn from circulation until Spain joined the Eurozone).

While Andalucia was treated the worst under his regime, he still had open supporters there even after he died.

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austin_blue  Aug 7, 2019 • 7:46:10pm

t.tre: #1 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I lived in Spain after Franco died.

Coins still circulated with Franco’s image (they were never withdrawn from circulation until Spain joined the Eurozone).

While Andalucia was treated the worst under his regime, he still had open supporters there even after he died.

I’ve got a 50 peseta coin in a drawer in a desk in my home office with Franco’s big fascist face on the front of it, dated 1966.

The man personified the “dick” in dictator.

Still didn’t keep us from maintaining US Navy and AF bases in Rota and Moron, though. Geopolitics and shit.

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:19:57am

From downstairs:

re: #798 electrotek

Also, we can not ignore France’s role in its intellectual inspiration for these attacks.

The intellectuals of the French right and their enablers in France deserve all the fury they can get. Fuck you Renaud Camus.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:20:40am

Excellent page.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:22:00am

re: #4 HappyWarrior

Excellent page.

THIS. Very well done!

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:22:10am

re: #3 electrotek

From downstairs:

The intellectuals of the French right and their enablers in France deserve all the fury they can get. Fuck you Renaud Camus.

I saw Camus and immediately mistook him for Albert Camus.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:23:31am

AND AGAIN

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plansbandc  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:23:53am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:24:06am

re: #7 The Pie Overlord!

AND AGAIN

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Damn it.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:26:16am

Great page - promoted!

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:26:55am

re: #6 Hecuba’s daughter

I saw Camus and immediately mistook him for Albert Camus.

lol that will happen

Just remember how Anders Breivik was once praised by a National Front member (4 years before the Paris attacks) as a “modern day Charles Martel”.

And Richard Millet arguing that Breivik is what Norway deserved.

Then you have Renaud Camus and other far-right French thinkers who peddle this rubbish. In their context, it’s “Muslims”, but they’re too dumb to realize that their rhetoric can easily be co-opted in other settings that don’t have to apply towards Muslims in other countries. As is the case with Hispanics here in North America.

Too bad the Francophile Mexican elites in Ciudad de Mexico or the rich Mexican expats living in France with their tri-color profile filters won’t be able to grasp that.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:27:13am

re: #7 The Pie Overlord!

AND AGAIN

Things the good guy with the gun wasn’t able to do:
1. Stop the man from stabbing a woman right in front of him.
2. Be enough of a threat that his presence, and the presence of the gun, would stop the man from committing the murder.

Thus, do not think the gun will stop people who want to kill.

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:27:44am

re: #12 Belafon

Things the good guy with the gun wasn’t able to do:
1. Stop the man from stabbing a woman right in front of him.
2. Be enough of a threat that his presence, and the presence of the gun, would stop the man from committing the murder.

Thus, do not think the gun will stop people who want to kill.

The “good guy with a gun” would have let her get stabbed for being Muslim.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:28:33am

Good news post.

Trying to get friends/Fellow writers to give me reviews on Amazon/Goodreads. It’s essential if you want people to notice you, but it takes time to get people to ready/write a review.

Got this gem yesterday night

This was a funny, weird, trip of a book. Take Douglas Adams, Max Barry, and Tom Robbins and add in a dash of Bill Nye the Science Guy, and you might end up with something like research. David Sedaris, Michael Connelly, and Jim Butcher come to mind as well. There is also a nice dose of authority, history, and an education in too many topics to name. If you’re looking for something different, give this a whirl.

I’ll take it.

bit.ly

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:33:58am

More recently than Franco, we have Pinochet. He was a flat-out fascist mass murderer, and he is a hero figure in the Proud Boy—Freeper litany. (See yesterday’s SPLC threadlet about the “DC Helicopter Pilots”.) They have embraced this shit. Never let it be erased.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:34:21am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:34:32am

he really has no freaking idea how any of this works.

I really want a reporter to demand that the moron explain IN DETAIL and with SPECIFIC EXAMPLES exactly what is “quantitative tightening/easing”.

I actually wanted someone to demand that Sarah Palin do the same when she kept mentioning it in an attempt to show how smart she was about economics.

I’ll not hold my breath.
O_o

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:34:51am

re: #15 Decatur Deb

More recently than Franco, we have Pinochet. He was a flat-out fascist mass murderer, and he is a hero figure in the Proud Boy—Freeper litany. (See yesterday’s SPLC threadlet about the “DC Helicopter Pilots”.) They have embraced this shit. Never let it be erased.

But they sure do love free speech?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:35:12am

re: #16 Charles Johnson

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Fired like a dog?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:38:25am

re: #15 Decatur Deb

More recently than Franco, we have Pinochet. He was a flat-out fascist mass murderer, and he is a hero figure in the Proud Boy—Freeper litany. (See yesterday’s SPLC threadlet about the “DC Helicopter Pilots”.) They have embraced this shit. Never let it be erased.

Don’t forget the “Chicago Boys” sent by Milton Friedman to implement the “free market on steroids” that eventually drove Pinochet out of power. Until he died Friedman saw nothing wrong with Pinochet’s police state which was in direct contradiction to Friedman’s insistence that free markets created social and political freedom.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:38:50am

re: #19 HappyWarrior

Fired like a dog?

I suspect he means a female dog.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:39:18am

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:39:47am

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

he really has no freaking idea how any of this works.

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I really want a reporter to demand that the moron explain IN DETAIL and with SPECIFIC EXAMPLES exactly what is “quantitative easing”.

I actually wanted someone to demand that Sarah Palin do the same when she kept mentioning it in an attempt to show how smart she was about economics.

I’ll not hold my breath.
O_o

One doesn’t have a strong dollar when one runs trillion dollar deficits every year.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:39:55am

The traitors should have been hanged and their property confiscated after the Civil War. It was the legal norm in nation states at the time and it would not have been questioned except, of course, by the doomed traitors themselves. Instead, they were forgiven and allowed back into power. This policy of national reconciliation after the Civil War turned out to be one of the worst mistakes in American history, perhaps the crucial mistake that could yet lead to our downfall. The ex-Confederates, being amoral traffickers in human flesh, naturally knew nothing but to extort the highest price they could possibly get, and the rest of the country willingly paid. Jim Crow, the “Lost Cause” myth, and a full century of continued segregation and oppression were that price. The effects are still very much with us. Just yesterday, a lady I know started in about the kindly masters and the benefits of slavery. I told her I did not want to hear it.

General George Thomas of Virginia, who was ostracized by his family for refusing to betray his country, possibly said it best.

[T]he greatest efforts made by the defeated insurgents since the close of the war have been to promulgate the idea that the cause of liberty, justice, humanity, equality, and all the calendar of the virtues of freedom, suffered violence and wrong when the effort for southern independence failed. This is, of course, intended as a species of political cant, whereby the crime of treason might be covered with a counterfeit varnish of patriotism, so that the precipitators of the rebellion might go down in history hand in hand with the defenders of the government, thus wiping out with their own hands their own stains; a species of self-forgiveness amazing in its effrontery, when it is considered that life and property—justly forfeited by the laws of the country, of war, and of nations, through the magnanimity of the government and people—was not exacted from them.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:39:57am

re: #21 Belafon

I suspect he means a female dog.

Probably. God he’s got issues.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:40:10am

re: #12 Belafon

Things the good guy with the gun wasn’t able to do:
1. Stop the man from stabbing a woman right in front of him.
2. Be enough of a threat that his presence, and the presence of the gun, would stop the man from committing the murder.

Thus, do not think the gun will stop people who want to kill.

a damn whole bunch of upvotes

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:41:00am

re: #24 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The traitors should have been hanged and their property confiscated after the Civil War. It was the legal norm in nation states at the time and it would not have been questioned except, of course, by the doomed traitors themselves. Instead, they were forgiven and allowed back into power. This policy of national reconciliation after the Civil War turned out to be one of the worst mistakes in American history, perhaps the crucial mistake that could yet lead to our downfall. The ex-Confederates, being amoral traffickers in human flesh, naturally knew nothing but to extort the highest price they could possibly get, and the rest of the country willingly paid. Jim Crow, the “Lost Cause” myth, and a full century of continued segregation and oppression were that price. The effects are still very much with us. Just yesterday, a lady I know started in about the kindly masters and the benefits of slavery. I told her I did not want to hear it.

General George Thomas of Virginia, who was ostracized by his family for refusing to betray his country, possibly said it best.

Reconstruction didn’t go far enough especially after Lincoln was murdered by a Confederate terrorist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:42:21am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:42:29am

re: #19 HappyWarrior

Fired like a dog?

Trump seems to have an almost pathological dislike of dogs. I’m not too sure why, other than maybe he thinks they’re “unclean” animals or something. Who knows? Trump seems to have a ton of phobias.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:44:19am
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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:45:01am

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

The unusual influx of immigrants that has not only been taken care of for years, but has been dropping.

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sagehen  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:46:52am

re: #16 Charles Johnson

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worth mentioning that this “failed hit piece book” written by somebody who “knows nothing about me”… Trump was so upset he sued for libel. He thought his money and his many lawyers would intimidate O’Brien into a quick apology and settlement.

Sadly for Trump, the NYT stood by O’Brien and put up their own lawyers. Trump committed perjury repeatedly in his deposition. The case was ultimately dismissed, Trump ended up having to pay attorney’s fees for both sides, and all he “won” was that the financial documents produced during discovery were sealed, and O’Brien signed an NDA.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:47:13am

re: #30 DodgerFan1988

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I was wondering about that. I thought she was just small.

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Dragonomics  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:48:42am

These “good guy with a gun” people think violence telegraphs itself like in a movie, but violence doesn’t come with musical cues, with a sinister presence spied fleetingly at the edge of the frame. It comes suddenly. It comes unexpectedly. It comes without suspense. And the good guy with a gun has little hope in the face of it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:48:45am

Oh boy, someone taught Trump some new big words.

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:48:56am

Wonder how the Iraqi Chaldeans in Detroit feel about selling their souls to the devil that is Trump while their relatives continue to be rounded up and deported back to Iraq?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:49:36am

re: #34 Dragonomics

These “good guy with a gun” people think violence telegraphs itself like in a movie, but violence doesn’t come with musical cues, with a sinister presence spied fleetingly at the edge of the frame. It comes suddenly. It comes unexpectedly. It comes without suspense. And the good guy with a gun has little hope in the face of it.

Unfortunately my brother has been spewing that bs. All this from someone who has never fired a gun let alone been in a shooter situation.

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Ming5000  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:49:54am

re: #36 electrotek

Another case of, “It wasn’t supposed to happen to us.”

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:50:35am

re: #7 The Pie Overlord!

…the female who was stabbed…

Christ! They simply cannot help but use dehumanizing language.

Assholes.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:51:04am

re: #36 electrotek

Wonder how the Iraqi Chaldeans in Detroit feel about selling their souls to the devil that is Trump while their relatives continue to be rounded up and deported back to Iraq?

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:53:47am

re: #40 The Pie Overlord!

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Considering how rabidly anti-Muslim and anti-Hispanic that community is, and their obsession with abortion, they continue to reap the consequences of their actions by supporting the devil.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:55:18am

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Unfortunately my brother has been spewing that bs. All this from someone who has never fired a gun let alone been in a shooter situation.

Sounds like your brother thinks he’s Inspector Harry Callahan in this memorable scene (from the original Dirty Harry):

sidewalk scene dirty harry

Don’t get me wrong - that’s one of the best scenes in any crime drama film from that era, and Dirty Harry is one hell of a film (inspired by the real-life Zodiac murders). Everyone in that scene, the cast and crew, really brought their A-game….and it shows.

But it’s just a movie.

It’s not real life.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:55:20am

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Unfortunately my brother has been spewing that bs. All this from someone who has never fired a gun let alone been in a shooter situation.

You are not alone. I have radical relatives in the militia movement who are 3%ers. They live in their Turner Diary fantasies.

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:56:04am

Oh, and can’t forget the Albanian Catholics in Detroit either that voted for that slimeball either (the ones who still can’t get over the fact that Albania has Muslims and Orthodox Christians too).

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:56:40am

re: #41 electrotek

Considering how rabidly anti-Muslim and anti-Hispanic that community is, and their obsession with abortion, they continue to reap the consequences of their actions by supporting the devil.

LOL Rashida Tlaib represents their district.

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 10:58:30am

re: #45 The Pie Overlord!

LOL Rashida Tlaib represents their district.

Oh lordy, that’s even funnier.

Did you guys hear about that Chaldean guy crying about the HOA not allowing his Virgin Mary statue outside his home?

And considered it an “attack on his religion”?

Gee, I thought rounding up kids in cages and depriving mothers and children of basic necessities south of the border in appalling conditions was more of an attack on Catholicism than being denied the right of a statue…

The tone-deaf rhetoric of Chaldeans when it comes to the plight of their Catholic co-religionists south of the US border is appalling for a community that claims to be proud Christians.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:00:29am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:01:40am

re: #42 Dr Lizardo

Sounds like your brother thinks he’s Inspector Harry Callahan in this memorable scene (from the original Dirty Harry):

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Don’t get me wrong - that’s one of the best scenes in any crime drama film from that era, and Dirty Harry is one hell of a film (inspired by the real-life Zodiac murders). Everyone in that scene, the cast and crew, really brought their A-game….and it shows.

But it’s just a movie.

It’s not real life.

Yeah it’s frustrating because he is smart but he really seems to believe the good guy gun bullshit. As I said, the dude has never even fired let alone been in a situation like this.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:02:25am

re: #43 Joe Bacon 🌹

You are not alone. I have radical relatives in the militia movement who are 3%ers. They live in their Turner Diary fantasies.

He doesn’t even know how to shoot a gun. In this one rare case, I will blame video games.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:02:31am

Motherf*cker! It’s only to get worse.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:02:35am

re: #34 Dragonomics

Argued with one of those on Facebook the other day. Her babbling made it clear she couldn’t wait for the opportunity to use her firearms on ‘rapists and thieves’ (meaning not-white people.)

I worry about her kids.

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retired cynic  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:03:12am

H/T Juanita Jean

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:03:17am

Thanks for promoting, boss!

I was in a real state of anger & despair yesterday, and it didn’t help that I’ve been dealing with my pro-Trump relatives, who spout the same lame old excuses, and then just go silent when those excuses are shown to be illogical, irrelevant and just plain lies.

I’m thinking about doing a page on what is actually causing them to start to soften in their Trump-support: the “War on Farmers” that Trump is waging. Most recent casualty is the US Dep’t of Agriculture. To the strident far-right extremist freaks, it’s just another “damn gummint bureaucracy” - but to farmers, it’s a vital resource that does the research and support that helps them survive.

What do you think? Should I do a deeper dive into this?

It would be a way of turning my frustrating experiences with my midwestern/Wisconsin relatives into something useful, I guess …

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:03:38am
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:04:01am

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

THIS. Very well done!

Aw, thanks guys!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:04:16am

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

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5 years old when he saw his dad last. Now he’s probably a father and maybe even a grandfather. Rest easy Captain Knight and welcome home at last.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:04:35am

re: #50 DodgerFan1988

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Motherf*cker! It’s only to get worse.

Son of a bitch.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:05:10am

I took this quiz and was rated +28 Democratic although the first 4 questions had me sliding to the Republican side.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:06:22am

re: #42 Dr Lizardo

Sounds like your brother thinks he’s Inspector Harry Callahan in this memorable scene (from the original Dirty Harry):

[Embedded content]

Video

Don’t get me wrong - that’s one of the best scenes in any crime drama film from that era, and Dirty Harry is one hell of a film (inspired by the real-life Zodiac murders). Everyone in that scene, the cast and crew, really brought their A-game….and it shows.

But it’s just a movie.

It’s not real life.

what’s that thing on the wall the cook used to call the police? /s

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:06:37am

re: #52 retired cynic

H/T Juanita Jean

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If Trump is on the Rica side, I want to be on the Ame side.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:06:46am

re: #46 electrotek

Oh lordy, that’s even funnier.

Did you guys hear about that Chaldean guy crying about the HOA not allowing his Virgin Mary statue outside his home?

And considered it an “attack on his religion”?

Gee, I thought rounding up kids in cages and depriving mothers and children of basic necessities south of the border in appalling conditions was more of an attack on Catholicism than being denied the right of a statue…

The tone-deaf rhetoric of Chaldeans when it comes to the plight of their Catholic co-religionists south of the US border is appalling for a community that claims to be proud Christians.

Do you at least feel sad & angry about the Chaldean man from Detroit who was deported to Iraq & then died of diabetes?

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:06:47am

re: #50 DodgerFan1988

Trump supporter.
Cruz supporter (per the bumper sticker).

The GOP are the enemy. They’ve weaponized their base to commit criminal acts against immigrants, minorities, and others chosen by Trump.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:06:59am

re: #50 DodgerFan1988

Just wait until Trump gets his ass handed to him next November (knock on wood) - then ends up getting indicted for all his criminal BS…..along with Jared, Ivanka, Donnie, Jr and Eric for their shenanigans as well.

You ain’t seen nothin’ yet. Trump’s supporters are gonna go apeshit.

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Ming5000  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:07:15am

re: #50 DodgerFan1988

I hope they keep self identifying.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:07:24am

re: #58 The Pie Overlord!

I took this quiz and was rated +28 Democratic although the first 4 questions had me sliding to the Republican side.

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+48.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:08:12am
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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:08:26am

re: #61 The Pie Overlord!

Do you at least feel sad & angry about the Chaldean man from Detroit who was deported to Iraq & then died of diabetes?

Absolutely.

I watched the video that was posted by his attorney and it broke my heart. My dad has diabetes himself so the fact that Jimmy died from not being able to secure insulin for his diabetes hit very hard to me.

He didn’t deserve this. He was as American as any of us, right down to his accent!

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Kilroy was here  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:08:37am

re: #58 The Pie Overlord!

I took this quiz and was rated +28 Democratic although the first 4 questions had me sliding to the Republican side.

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+48 D.. damn education

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:08:38am

Here’s another quiz from Wonkette

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b.d.  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:08:49am

re: #58 The Pie Overlord!

I took this quiz and was rated +28 Democratic although the first 4 questions had me sliding to the Republican side.

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+78 Dem.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:09:06am

re: #59 DangerMan

what’s that thing on the wall the cook used to call the police? /s

LOL but I’d imagine some younger kids who’ve never seen a wall-mounted rotary phone in their entire lives would probably be curiously fascinated by all the anachronisms and old-school tech in films from the ’70s and ‘80’s.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:09:31am

re: #53 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Thanks for promoting, boss!

I was in a real state of anger & despair yesterday, and it didn’t help that I’ve been dealing with my pro-Trump relatives, who spout the same lame old excuses, and then just go silent when those excuses are shown to be illogical, irrelevant and just plain lies.

I’m thinking about doing a page on what is actually causing them to start to soften in their Trump-support: the “War on Farmers” that Trump is waging. Most recent casualty is the US Dep’t of Agriculture. To the strident far-right extremist freaks, it’s just another “damn gummint bureaucracy” - but to farmers, it’s a vital resource that does the research and support that helps them survive.

What do you think? Should I do a deeper dive into this?

It would be a way of turning my frustrating experiences with my midwestern/Wisconsin relatives into something useful, I guess …

yes please

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:09:48am

re: #62 lawhawk

Trump supporter.
Cruz supporter (per the bumper sticker).

The GOP are the enemy. They’ve weaponized their base to commit criminal acts against immigrants, minorities, and others chosen by Trump.

Lots of others. When I wrote my paper on pogroms, I wrote it with how the right was scapegoating Muslims during Obama’s early years but now I’m seeing the similarities even more with how all non whites.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:13:12am

re: #69 The Pie Overlord!

Here’s another quiz from Wonkette

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I can only tell the difference because Trump’s quotes are so familiar now.

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Jay C  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:14:10am

re: #58 The Pie Overlord!

+48D for me as well (no surprise, personally, I would class myself as +99D).

But that NYT quiz also brought out one other important point:

So although the term “identity politics” is often wielded to criticize the Democrats for focusing on race and gender, Republicans are typically more susceptible to appeals based on their shared identity than Democrats,

Quite true, but in the case of what seems like most of today’s Republicans, that “identity” - white, English-speaking, Protestant, “conservative”* - is what they imagine the default “identity” for the whole country should be.

I.e., unthinkingly deferential to power hierarchies

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:15:10am

re: #58 The Pie Overlord!

I took this quiz and was rated +28 Democratic although the first 4 questions had me sliding to the Republican side.

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1. its ok to separate kids from their parents and put them in cages y/n
2. there are good people on both sides y/n
3. mexico is sending us criminals, rapists, and murders, y/n
4. its good policy to deport a guy to a country he’s never been to and doesnt speak the language of y/n
5. lying to the public in an obvious way is fine y/n
6. ignoring congressional authority and using a lawsuit to argue every single move they make is how government should operate y/n
7. one man (not the president), supported by just 51% of the people in his state should have the power to stop progress on all legislation y/n
8. rules don’t matter y/n

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:15:55am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:16:00am

re: #75 Jay C

+48D for me as well (no surprise, personally, I would class myself as +99D).

But that NYT quiz also brought out one other important point:

Quite true, but in the case of what seems like most of today’s Republicans, that “identity” - white, English-speaking, Protestant, “conservative”* - is what they imagine the default “identity” for the whole country should be.

I.e., unthinkingly deferential to power hierarchies

That’s been my thought for awhile. I’m a straight white dude. I’m not religious but my identity doesn’t define my political views. My reading and understanding of history and the issues does.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:16:07am

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Lots of others. When I wrote my paper on pogroms, I wrote it with how the right was scapegoating Muslims during Obama’s early years but now I’m seeing the similarities even more with how all non whites.

That “great replacement” conspiracy theory seems to have spread like absolute wildfire among white American conservatives - and I’m seeing it beginning to crop up here in Czech political discourse as well, albeit, as little more than a fringe political notion.

But bear in mind, the “great replacement” started off as a lunatic fringe idea and now seems to be increasingly accepted as a mainstream idea in the American right wing.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:16:17am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

I can only tell the difference because Trump’s quotes are so familiar now.

Derek’s quotes from American History X are more coherent.

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:16:26am

re: #63 Dr Lizardo

Just wait until Trump gets his ass handed to him next November (knock on wood) - then ends up getting indicted for all his criminal BS…..along with Jared, Ivanka, Donnie, Jr and Eric for their shenanigans as well.

You ain’t seen nothin’ yet. Trump’s supporters are gonna go apeshit.

I’m planning on taking an overseas trip around that time next year.

I went to Japan last November precisely to avoid the shitstorm that would occur if Beto lost.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:16:28am

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You knew this was happening though.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:16:51am

re: #80 The Pie Overlord!

Derek’s quotes from American History X are more coherent.

That too.

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Skip Intro  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:17:28am

re: #30 DodgerFan1988

Did he bring his own prop?

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:17:33am

re: #79 Dr Lizardo

That “great replacement” conspiracy theory seems to have spread like absolute wildfire among white American conservatives - and I’m seeing it beginning to crop up here in Czech political discourse as well, albeit, as little more than a fringe political notion.

But bear in mind, the “great replacement” started off as a lunatic fringe idea and now seems to be increasingly accepted as a mainstream idea in the American right wing.

Considering its French origins, can anyone imagine a Republican in 2003 using any theory popularized by the French back then?

I guess that’s one silver lining of the anti-French hysteria - that even right-wing French ideologies would have been thrown in the gutter for being French along with Dom Perignon bottles.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:17:34am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:17:40am

re: #81 electrotek

I’m planning on taking an overseas trip around that time next year.

I went to Japan last November precisely to avoid the shitstorm that would occur if Beto lost.

I’m thinking my next international trip will be somewhere completely different. I’m thinking Thailand.

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:18:11am

re: #87 HappyWarrior

I’m thinking my next international trip will be somewhere completely different. I’m thinking Thailand.

Scratch that, I went to Japan AND Malaysia then.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:18:24am

more foreign policy via incoherent tweets

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:18:26am

re: #71 Dr Lizardo

LOL but I’d imagine some younger kids who’ve never seen a wall-mounted rotary phone in their entire lives would probably be curiously fascinated by all the anachronisms and old-school tech in films from the ’70s and ‘80’s.

yeah - not cordless, not pushbutton

car exhaust emitting visible smoke

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:19:42am

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

more foreign policy via incoherent tweets

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You don’t represent us either

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:20:10am

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Mr. Trump reacted with fury. As his plane soared toward a restive El Paso, he shouted at aides that no one was defending him, according to a person briefed on what took place.”

cant defend the indefensible

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:20:28am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

I can only tell the difference because Trump’s quotes are so familiar now.

And they don’t include F-bombs (yet).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:21:30am

I thought something stinky was in the air

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:21:35am

re: #84 Skip Intro

Did he bring his own prop?

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why the fuck are they doing cheesecake for the camera?
what is wrong with these people?

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:24:00am

re: #79 Dr Lizardo

That “great replacement” conspiracy theory seems to have spread like absolute wildfire among white American conservatives - and I’m seeing it beginning to crop up here in Czech political discourse as well, albeit, as little more than a fringe political notion.

But bear in mind, the “great replacement” started off as a lunatic fringe idea and now seems to be increasingly accepted as a mainstream idea in the American right wing.

It’s textbook paranoia. Creeping, invisible, all-powerful forces are OUT TO GET YOU!!!

Only way to fight them off is to wake everybody else up - and the means to do that is to commit random acts of violence until everyone is as terrified as you are.

It really is a key to understanding how ISIS and American conservatives are the same.

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:24:23am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:24:32am

re: #90 DangerMan

yeah - not cordless, not pushbutton

car exhaust emitting visible smoke

Yeah, a shit ton of smoke. Looked to me like it that car had a blown head gasket.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:25:30am

re: #7 The Pie Overlord!

Absolutely horrifying. Another tragedy in Pittsburgh due to bigotry.

The Right will blow past the Islamophobia and spin the fact that it was knives and not guns…

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Kilroy was here  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:27:03am

Twitter rage in 5.. 4… 3… 2..

Rosenstein: Trump should focus on preventing people from ‘becoming violent white supremacists’

thehill.com

Anyone want to guess how long Rosenstein has left?

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:28:47am
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:29:01am

re: #98 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, a shit ton of smoke. Looked to me like it that car had a blown head gasket.

I had a big old lead sled of that vintage as my first car, and the state of Detroit V-8s back then was that they often burned nearly almost as much oil as gasoline.

Something I’ve noticed that tells me we have made progress: back in the 70s, when cars drove by, a few seconds later, you’d smell the exhaust. Even out in the country, where we lived.

Today, I lived about 50 years from a 6-lane road here in Los Angeles. Constant traffic. Don’t smell exhaust at all - or, only when a big diesel truck comes down the alley next to me.

Pollution controls - denounced as “commie gadgets” by reactionary freaks back in the 70s, have made it so we’re not all choking to death on fumes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:30:07am

re: #58 The Pie Overlord!

I took this quiz and was rated +28 Democratic although the first 4 questions had me sliding to the Republican side.

I have a lot of “conservative” principles.

I am a big fan of free markets, personal responsibility and individual initiative.

But I also want markets to function for everyone, not just the monopoly players. I want to see a government that is also responsible for its citizens’ well being and I have no problem with employees and consumers joining together to optimize their bargaining power and not just investors.

And the GOP abandoned any principles ages ago in an attempt to cling to power.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:30:58am

re: #100 Kilroy was here

Twitter rage in 5.. 4… 3… 2..

Rosenstein: Trump should focus on preventing people from ‘becoming violent white supremacists’

thehill.com

Anyone want to guess how long Rosenstein has left?

Gone in 60 Seconds by next Thursday, tops.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:31:34am

re: the kid that Trump apparently took photo op with in Dayton.

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:32:59am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:34:30am

re: #59 DangerMan

what’s that thing on the wall the cook used to call the police? /s

It’s a chimney flapper valve he could use to emit smoke signals from his cook fires. All restaurants had them in those days.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:34:58am

Trump, just three weeks ago: “We did a great job. We have 100 percent of the caliphate, and we’re rapidly pulling out of Syria. We’ll be out of there pretty soon.

In a sobering new report, the Pentagon’s independent watchdog concludes that the remnants of the Islamic State militant group have been capitalizing on President Trump’s drawdown in Syria, the Washington Post reports.

From the report: “Despite losing its territorial ‘caliphate,’ the Islamic State solidified its insurgent capabilities in Iraq and was resurging in Syria.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:35:34am

re: #58 The Pie Overlord!

I took this quiz and was rated +28 Democratic although the first 4 questions had me sliding to the Republican side.

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I’m +48 D

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:35:43am

999 likes

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:36:38am

debacle. oh dear

New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman told CNN that aides to President Trump think he behaved disastrously yesterday while he was supposed to be consoling the victims of the El Paso and Dayton shootings.

Said Haberman: “Most people - while they would I suspect not say that publicly - will privately admit that yesterday was something of a debacle. These are not the headlines they wanted to see. They wanted him to go in and behave differently. The goal was to go in and get out with as little news as possible.”

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:36:48am

re: #102 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

I have fond memories of those old lead sleds but no doubt about it, cars today are not only more efficient, they’re cleaner and safer.

Nonetheless, enjoy this tribute to the era of the lead sleds - set to “Heading Out to the Highway”, a fan edit set to some of the most memorable open road films of the ’70s.

Judas Priest - Heading Out To The Highway

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:37:28am

ICE: The American Stasi

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:38:58am
Facing mounting controversy for declaring the very real problem of white supremacy in America to be a “hoax,” Tucker Carlson announced at the end of his Wednesday night Fox News show that he will be taking a vacation, CNN reports.

he’s either totally toast or the next ambassador to russia

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:41:15am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:42:27am

re: #58 The Pie Overlord!

I took this quiz and was rated +28 Democratic although the first 4 questions had me sliding to the Republican side.

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Gee, I wonder why The Screw York Times blocks me from taking that quiz…

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b.d.  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:43:11am

re: #105 lawhawk

re: the kid that Trump apparently took photo op with in Dayton.

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Somebody shot that kid so they could get a picture with Trump!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:44:17am

re: #69 The Pie Overlord!

Here’s another quiz from Wonkette

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I mistook 2 of Derek’s statements for Trump’s; they are totally things Trump would say.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:44:38am

re: #110 gocart mozart

999 likes

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Such a petty loser.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:45:27am

re: #115 lawhawk

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Haha I don’t like DiBlasio but burned. And I don’t believe Lumpy for a second.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:46:15am

re: #95 DangerMan

why the fuck are they doing cheesecake for the camera?
what is wrong with these people?

They’re all fucking sociopaths.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:46:19am

re: #116 Joe Bacon 🌹

Gee, I wonder why The Screw York Times blocks me from taking that quiz…

im gonna pedant

it’s not a quiz
it’s more of a predictor of how you might vote based on traits, not political positions

political compass is a quiz based on issues

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:46:51am

re: #122 DangerMan

im gonna pedant

it’s not a quiz
it’s more of a predictor of how you might vote based on traits, not political positions

political compass is a quiz based on issues

Right.

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b.d.  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:47:44am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:48:34am

Probably way behind the curve on this, but I just saw that our latest national hero, “Green Shirt Guy,” has been identified as Alex Kack of Tucson.
‘Green Shirt Guy’ Goes Viral Laughing at Trump Supporters Protesting Sanctuary City Resolution

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:48:38am

re: #116 Joe Bacon 🌹

Gee, I wonder why The Screw York Times blocks me from taking that quiz…

Random guess:
1. You used up your 5 free articles for the month
2. You have an ad blocker

I still have a subscription to the NYT for their food section.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:54:51am

re: #122 DangerMan

im gonna pedant

it’s not a quiz
it’s more of a predictor of how you might vote based on traits, not political positions

political compass is a quiz based on issues

i just took it again and wound up
Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.15

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:56:08am

re: #79 Dr Lizardo

That “great replacement” conspiracy theory seems to have spread like absolute wildfire among white American conservatives - and I’m seeing it beginning to crop up here in Czech political discourse as well, albeit, as little more than a fringe political notion.

But bear in mind, the “great replacement” started off as a lunatic fringe idea and now seems to be increasingly accepted as a mainstream idea in the American right wing.

Fox News has been pimping it for a long time; its now convential wisdom on the Right.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:57:01am

re: #128 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Fox News has been pimping it for a long time; its now convential wisdom on the Right.

oxymoron

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Aug 8, 2019 • 11:58:32am

re: #58 The Pie Overlord!

+66.

(Probably question 2.)

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:01:00pm

re: #91 HappyWarrior

You don’t represent us either

When I saw a tweet of his today that began with “As your President…” I just stopped in my tracks and thought, “fuck, that’s right. He’s technically my president; I still can’t quite believe it’s true.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:02:59pm

re: #131 Barefoot Grin

When I saw a tweet of his today that began with “As your President…” I just stopped in my tracks and thought, “fuck, that’s right. He’s technically my president; I still can’t quite believe it’s true.”

I’m still stunned just thinking about it.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:04:54pm

re: #127 DangerMan

Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.82

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:08:37pm

I have my results at home. I’m a little to the right of LH and DM but I’m significantly more left than what they classify our politicians as.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:12:26pm

Confirming what many here thought:

Loomer is running for Congress to get her social media accounts back, because she’s useless without them.

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plansbandc  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:13:00pm

re: #58 The Pie Overlord!

+78 Dem.

Big Ole pinko.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:13:11pm

re: #135 lawhawk

Confirming what many here thought:

Loomer is running for Congress to get her social media accounts back, because she’s useless without them.

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And, tbh, pretty useless with them as well.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:14:23pm
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i(m)p(each)sos  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:15:44pm

Transiting Canada overnight on the way toward Michigan tomorrow.

Wonder if VB will save me a slice of pie once I make it across the Bluewater?

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:16:42pm

If you were thinking you needed to see sumo wrestlers just standing in a sunflower field, here ya go:

asahi.com

If, on the other hand, you wanted a puppy cam of Akita-inu pups, here ya go:

asahi.com

Now, I gotta go. TTFN.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:18:41pm

This is me:

Economic Left/Right: -7.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.87

I am fairly well down in that bottom left corner.

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mmmirele  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:19:19pm

re: #38 Ming5000

Another case of, “It wasn’t supposed to happen to us.”

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Kilroy was here  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:19:52pm

Economic Left/Right: -5.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.46
Center of the lower left box.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:26:44pm

re: #118 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I mistook 2 of Derek’s statements for Trump’s; they are totally things Trump would say.

Aced it, but by question 5 I had figured out the gimmick. So it doesn’t count.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:28:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:30:04pm

more in her thread

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danarchy  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:31:11pm

re: #100 Kilroy was here

Twitter rage in 5.. 4… 3… 2..

Rosenstein: Trump should focus on preventing people from ‘becoming violent white supremacists’

thehill.com

Anyone want to guess how long Rosenstein has left?

Didn’t rosenstein already step down months ago?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:31:42pm
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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:31:45pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

“They’re talking about you all over the world” is the highest praise he can imagine.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:32:32pm

re: #147 danarchy

Didn’t rosenstein already step down months ago?

Yes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:34:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:35:13pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:36:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:36:54pm

didn’t get enough credit…

I have no problem giving him MORE credit for inspiring the shootings.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:37:30pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Beto’s leading by example. He won’t be the nominee but he’s a good man. I bet the fact he’s attending a service in Mexico enrages the usual suspects.

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plansbandc  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:39:48pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:40:36pm

re: #131 Barefoot Grin

When I saw a tweet of his today that began with “As your President…” I just stopped in my tracks and thought, “fuck, that’s right. He’s technically my president; I still can’t quite believe it’s true.”

no matter who you are, the question is whether he’d think he was your president, because he clearly does not believe and does not behave as if he is president of/to all

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TedStriker  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:41:40pm

re: #135 lawhawk

Confirming what many here thought:

Loomer is running for Congress to get her social media accounts back, because she’s useless without them.

Edited for clarification.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:41:57pm
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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:42:58pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

Beto’s leading by example. He won’t be the nominee but he’s a good man. I bet the fact he’s attending a service in Mexico enrages the usual suspects.

If Warren or Harris get the nomination, they should pick Beto for VP and make him the Democratic ambassador to Texas.

If, for some reason Biden gets it, I’m not sure what I want. I would prefer a woman as VP, but I think I’d rather have Harris as AG and Warren as Secretary of Economics (all of the economic roles) than VP.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:43:43pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

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didn’t get enough credit…

I have no problem giving him MORE credit for inspiring the shootings.

Yeah, this reaction is what people were saying would happen, already on Sunday:
1)Trump (according to aides leaking to the news) is horrified by the shootings (but not enough to come in off the links).
2) He makes a wooden, teleprompter speech saying the right things, but with no emotion and or compassion.
3) Newsmedia and other politicians fail to heap praise on him.
4) He gets enraged that he doesn’t get enough credit.
5) He ragetweets, erasing what little positivity his teleprompter speech might have generated.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

And the thing is, it’s such a predictable pattern now that people ALREADY KNOW his teleprompter speech is meaningless before he even gives it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:43:49pm

re: #160 Belafon

If Warren or Harris get the nomination, they should pick Beto for VP and make him the Democratic ambassador to Texas.

If, for some reason Biden gets it, I’m not sure what I want. I would prefer a woman as VP, but I think I’d rather have Harris as AG and Warren as Secretary of Economics (all of the economic roles) than VP.

Yes I think he needs to be seriously considered for VP if it’s Warren or Harris. Definitely give him a job. He’s a leader.

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Kilroy was here  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:44:14pm

re: #147 danarchy

Didn’t rosenstein already step down months ago?

…. yes… oops.. Forgot.. there have been so many who have left.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:44:51pm

re: #137 Barefoot Grin

And, tbh, pretty useless with them as well.

It’s her only means of support. Without social media accounts, she can’t drive people to The Grift.

De-platforming works, folks.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:45:34pm

re: #164 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

It’s her only means of support. Without social media accounts, she can’t drive people to The Grift.

De-platforming works, folks.

She might have to get a paying gig.

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:45:37pm
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sagehen  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:45:39pm

re: #113 DodgerFan1988

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ICE spokeswoman Rachael Yong Yow denied that ICE sent an enforcement team to the shelter.

But WIN’s head of security said he was talking to the shelter’s guards during the standoff and that eight people wearing ICE insignia who identified themselves as agents were in fact there.

On S.W.A.T. last season, there was an episode where criminals dressed as ICE were “arresting” rich people’s housekeepers, then torturing them for intel about when’s the family home, where do they keep the jewelry, is there cash in the safe…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:46:24pm
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TedStriker  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:47:18pm

re: #164 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

It’s her only means of support. Without social media accounts, she can’t drive people to The Grift.

De-platforming works, folks.

Which is why prominent RWNJs scream bloody murder when they do get booted from SM platforms, because those SM platforms are the means to an end, that end being them working their marks to get paid.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:47:34pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

The guy who assaulted a child for “disrespecting” the national anthem said he thought Trump wanted him to do it

not even ‘the president told me to’
just ‘the president would have wanted me to’

whether he truly believes this nonsense or not, how do they think it’s gonna fly as a defense? i mean other than that’s all folks, lock me up im a looney

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:47:37pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s really hard not to like him.

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:47:47pm

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I love that Twitter account.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:48:19pm

Beto would also make a good Ambassador to Mexico.

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TedStriker  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:48:30pm

re: #165 Blind Frog Belly White

She might have to get a paying gig.

That’s for the dirty hoi polloi, not for superstars like her.

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:48:58pm

“…Organizers with Casa Carmelita say police also recovered a loaded gun, ammunition and a bag of white powder from the man’s truck, which sported a large banner portraying Donald Trump as Rambo and bumper stickers for the far-right conspiracy website InfoWars. The man appears to be 21-year-old Thomas Bartram, who was profiled earlier on Wednesday by the Washington Examiner. Bartram told the paper he was an “open-carry kind of guy” at political rallies; a photo accompanying the article shows Bartram making what appears to be a white nationalist hand gesture.”

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:49:00pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

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didn’t get enough credit…

I have no problem giving him MORE credit for inspiring the shootings.

If he expected kudos for yukking it up at a hospital where a bunch of people were shot, he really is a fucking psycho.

The whole family is.

As are those who support him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:49:14pm

re: #174 TedStriker

That’s for the dirty hoi polloi, not for superstars like her.

You know, people with skills.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:49:23pm

re: #171 MsJ

It’s really hard not to like him.

The anti Trump in so many ways. I really hope he gets a job in the next administration. VP or Ambassador to Mexico or something involving the Central American countries would be great.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:49:39pm

re: #173 Belafon

Beto would also make a good Ambassador to Mexico.

He would!

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:49:50pm

re: #165 Blind Frog Belly White

She might have to get a paying gig.

Taco Bell is always hiring.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:50:46pm

re: #160 Belafon

If Warren or Harris get the nomination, they should pick Beto for VP and make him the Democratic ambassador to Texas.

If, for some reason Biden gets it, I’m not sure what I want. I would prefer a woman as VP, but I think I’d rather have Harris as AG and Warren as Secretary of Economics (all of the economic roles) than VP.

Good points all.

Plus, my well worn and unpopular opinion that America is not ready for a woman at the top.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:50:55pm

re: #180 Dr Lizardo

Taco Bell is always hiring.

gives a whole new meaning to “Run for the Border!”

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:51:38pm

re: #165 Blind Frog Belly White

She might have to get a paying gig.

There are always morons happy to part with their money.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:51:51pm

re: #169 TedStriker

Which is why prominent RWNJs scream bloody murder when they do get booted from SM platforms, because those SM platforms are the means to an end, that end being them working their marks to get paid.

It’s also ego-gratification. These are the dirtheads that farted in class, gathered in packs back by the shop class doors, chortling and saying stupid shit to girls. Loomis is one of the wretched skanks who orbited around them, now all grown up and angry that the world hasn’t made her a movie star, and determined to get the attention her sad, sick, diseased soul needs to stave off the self-realization that she is an insignificant, stupid loser.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:52:53pm

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sagehen  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:53:22pm

re: #160 Belafon

If Warren or Harris get the nomination, they should pick Beto for VP and make him the Democratic ambassador to Texas.

If, for some reason Biden gets it, I’m not sure what I want. I would prefer a woman as VP, but I think I’d rather have Harris as AG and Warren as Secretary of Economics (all of the economic roles) than VP.

I want Warren to head the SEC.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:53:51pm

re: #161 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, this reaction is what people were saying would happen, already on Sunday:
1)Trump (according to aides leaking to the news) is horrified by the shootings (but not enough to come in off the links).
2) He makes a wooden, teleprompter speech saying the right things, but with no emotion and or compassion.
3) Newsmedia and other politicians fail to heap praise on him.
4) He gets enraged that he doesn’t get enough credit.
5) He ragetweets, erasing what little positivity his teleprompter speech might have generated.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

And the thing is, it’s such a predictable pattern now that people ALREADY KNOW his teleprompter speech is meaningless before he even gives it.

it took a while for everyone to get his shtick identified and nailed down
now it’s a no brainer - partially why it doesnt make more headlines

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TedStriker  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:54:13pm

re: #184 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

It’s also ego-gratification. These are the dirtheads that farted in class, gathered in packs back by the shop class doors, chortling and saying stupid shit to girls. Loomis is one of the wretched skanks who orbited around them, now all grown up and angry that the world hasn’t made her a movie star, and determined to get the attention her sad, sick, diseased soul needs to stave off the self-realization that she is an insignificant, stupid loser.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:54:41pm

re: #180 Dr Lizardo

Taco Bell is always hiring.

She’s more Nihilist Arbys, I think.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:54:57pm

re: #185 Patricia Kayden

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Cernovich won’t be happy with this framing of the situation.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:55:23pm

re: #186 sagehen

I want Warren to head the SEC.

If she’s not the nominee, keep her in the Senate and have her lead there.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:55:53pm

re: #188 TedStriker

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Great minds think alike & etc., and also I am intrigued by your ideas & wish to subscribe to your newsletter…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 12:58:49pm

Tom Perriello who I supported here in the gubernatorial primary is like Beto, just a likable person. The two sadly have a racist murder in their district in common. Tom is from Charlottesville.

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Sea Mexican  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:00:14pm

re: #58 The Pie Overlord!

I took this quiz and was rated +28 Democratic although the first 4 questions had me sliding to the Republican side.

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I was rated +72 Dem. However, with a slight change in the first question (race), I turned to +2 Dem.

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:03:18pm
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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:04:45pm

re: #176 MsJ

If he expected kudos for yukking it up at a hospital where a bunch of people were shot, he really is a fucking psycho.

The whole family is.

As are those who support him.

im the president
i expect fealty no matter what im doing

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:05:53pm

re: #180 Dr Lizardo

Taco Bell is always hiring.

nope, dont want her any where near food prep for the public
she’s running a district and a half north of me
way too close for comfort

(not that i eat at taco bell)

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:06:35pm

re: #195 electrotek

The people responsible for his deportation all need to be jailed for negligent homicide or involuntary manslaughter.

They need to prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

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sagehen  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:08:24pm

re: #195 electrotek

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How many Chaldean voters are there in Michigan? Is it more than Trump’s margin of victory for that state?

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mmmirele  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:08:40pm

re: #140 Barefoot Grin

If you were thinking you needed to see sumo wrestlers just standing in a sunflower field, here ya go:

asahi.com

If, on the other hand, you wanted a puppy cam of Akita-inu pups, here ya go:

asahi.com

Now, I gotta go. TTFN.

Some of us are both sumo fans and dog fans. I am going to get to a match at the Ryogoku Kokugikan in Tokyo someday. I am a particular fan of Enho, who at 99 kg and 5’6” is the smallest guy in the top-ranking division. But he has great technique and takes down guys twice his size.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:09:53pm

re: #198 Dr Lizardo

The people responsible for his deportation all need to be jailed for negligent homicide or involuntary manslaughter.

They need to prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Then, the extent of the law needs to be increased.

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:11:03pm

re: #199 sagehen

How many Chaldean voters are there in Michigan? Is it more than Trump’s margin of victory for that state?

I can’t recall the exact amount, but it was enough to help Trump win Michigan in 2016.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:11:35pm

re: #198 Dr Lizardo

The people responsible for his deportation all need to be jailed for negligent homicide or involuntary manslaughter.

They need to prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Not going to happen; because technically it was legal, though in this case the law was obviously applied without a shred of humanity or decency.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:12:26pm

re: #203 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Not going to happen; because technically it was legal, though in this case the law was obviously applied without a shred of humanity or decency.

Then we’ll start with fixing the law.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:13:21pm

I’m going to post this thread again, because its topical and also the funniest fucking thing I’ve ever seen on Twitter.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:13:34pm

re: #204 wrenchwench

Then we’ll start with fixing the law.

Lawmakers.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:14:11pm

re: #195 electrotek

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- been in the US since he was 6mo old
- born in a refugee camp in Greece

i dont care what he was ‘considered’. that’s bullshit bureaucratic arbitrary line drawing
who fucking cares?
was he about to get a gun and shoot up a walmart?

violent criminal that he was (yes ——> /s)
he wasnt deported then. just sent to jail like an american /s

more fucking american than the ‘first lady’
no accent neither /s

you guys cant even do deportations right
(yes i know, the cruelty is the point)

stupid fucking idiodic ‘priorities’

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:16:02pm

Time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:16:04pm

re: #198 Dr Lizardo

The people responsible for his deportation all need to be jailed for negligent homicide or involuntary manslaughter.

They need to prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

im not sure it’s even negligent
it was very possibly done on purpose while full well knowing it was totally foreseeable and predictable

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:16:55pm

re: #199 sagehen

How many Chaldean voters are there in Michigan? Is it more than Trump’s margin of victory for that state?

they were extremely vocal and visible in their support at his rallies.
Their signs said “Chaldeans for Trump”.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:17:03pm

re: #200 mmmirele

Some of us are both sumo fans and dog fans. I am going to get to a match at the Ryogoku Kokugikan in Tokyo someday. I am a particular fan of Enho, who at 99 kg and 5’6” is the smallest guy in the top-ranking division. But he has great technique and takes down guys twice his size.

is there dog sumo?
asking totally for myself as none of my friends would

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:18:06pm

re: #211 DangerMan

is there dog sumo?
asking totally for myself as none of my friends would

Most dog play is sumo.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:18:48pm

Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) Tweeted:
Dear The Washington Post:

You are not obligated to publish bad faith content written by disingenuous writers. If you were to simply decline to do that, nothing bad would happen and the quality of the product would improve.

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:19:14pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

they were extremely vocal and visible in their support at his rallies.
Their signs said “Chaldeans for Trump”.

Even more so after their prayers for a an anti-Muslim pro-life presidential candidate were answered.

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TedStriker  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:19:39pm

re: #209 DangerMan

im not sure it’s even negligent
it was very possibly done on purpose while full well knowing it was totally foreseeable and predictable

“Callous disregard for human life”.

If someone other than ICE or other LE agency did this, they’d be under the jail at the very least. That is, if they weren’t put in line for the gurney or Ol’ Sparky.

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plansbandc  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:20:43pm
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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:22:37pm

another crack in the dam

“Andrew McCabe, the acting FBI director who authorized an investigation into President Trump for ties to Russia and possible obstruction of justice, filed a lawsuit against the bureau and the Justice Department on Wednesday, alleging he was illegally demoted and fired as part of a plot by Trump to remove those who were not politically loyal to him,” the Washington Post reports.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:23:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:23:49pm

hey andres:

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:24:22pm

re: #213 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) Tweeted:
Dear The Washington Post:

You are not obligated to publish bad faith content written by disingenuous writers. If you were to simply decline to do that, nothing bad would happen and the quality of the product would improve.

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Uh no Marc. That’s wrong but try again next time you sack of crap.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:24:57pm

Just weeks before 22 people were fatally gunned down at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, the suspected gunman’s mother called her local police department expressing concern about her son owning an AK-style rifle, her lawyers have said.

[the shooter’s] mother told the Allen Police Department that she was worried about the 21-year-old owning the firearm due to his age, maturity and lack of experience with such a weapon, attorneys Chris Ayres and R. Jack Ayres told CNN.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:25:57pm

gaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:26:57pm

Perhaps a little more uplifting lyrics, from “Even if you are victorious”

Yonderboi - Even If You Are Victorious - Splendet Isolation

Nothing ever changes…
Even if you’re victorious…
Even if you’re victorious…
You’ll still be filled with the poison.

You got to break the chain of evil.

You got to break the chain of evil with love!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:27:00pm
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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:28:26pm

Some background on how the employer companies operate:

“…In 2009, Howard Industries executive Jose Humberto Gonzalez pleaded guilty to conspiracy charges for hiring undocumented immigrants. A court sentenced him to six months of house arrest and a $2.5 million fine.

“The only Latino administrative person in that company was the one that was charged with recruiting these workers. … They raided that plant and it was in many instances very violent when they went inside the plant,” Chandler said.

The Howard raid was the largest single-day worksite raid in U.S. history at the time it happened, though today’s raid eclipsed it.

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plansbandc  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:29:18pm

re: #225 jaunte

Sounds about white.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:30:14pm

=re: #216 plansbandc

One thing they did in ‘The Man In The High Castle’, which I found interesting was

they turned aging Hitler into a somewhat sympathetic figure, by making the guy who took over (after poisoning the old bastard) EVEN WORSE! His replacement, who engineered a coup that put him ‘reluctantly’ in charge, was going to nuke the Japanese Empire, figuring their uneasy ‘alliance’ had lasted long enough, and they weren’t true Aryans anyway.

So much of the best TV these days takes simplistic notions of good and bad and turns them on their head, like how ‘The Americans’ has you hoping the two Russian spies, who have killed any number of innocent Americans, escape.

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mmmirele  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:31:33pm

re: #211 DangerMan

is there dog sumo?
asking totally for myself as none of my friends would

No. They barely tolerate women’s sumo (only available in university and there is no professional association).

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:32:40pm

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Come At Me, Bro!
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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:33:09pm

re: #193 HappyWarrior

Tom Perriello who I supported here in the gubernatorial primary is like Beto, just a likable person. The two sadly have a racist murder in their district in common. Tom is from Charlottesville.

For a second there, I read that as Tom Morello (from Rage Against the Machine).

Rage Against The Machine - Bulls On Parade (Official Video)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:33:18pm

re: #63 Dr Lizardo

Just wait until Trump gets his ass handed to him next November (knock on wood) - then ends up getting indicted for all his criminal BS…..along with Jared, Ivanka, Donnie, Jr and Eric for their shenanigans as well.

You ain’t seen nothin’ yet. Trump’s supporters are gonna go apeshit.

Trump will pardon everyone including himself BUT New York AG will step in and indict the whole fucking family!

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:33:40pm

re: #213 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) Tweeted:
Dear The Washington Post:

You are not obligated to publish bad faith content written by disingenuous writers. If you were to simply decline to do that, nothing bad would happen and the quality of the product would improve.

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When has Marc Thiessen ever written anything that wasn’t in bad faith? Hasn’t he always been a worthless piece of lying trash?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:34:10pm

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh

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Police state.

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mmmirele  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:36:22pm

re: #213 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) Tweeted:
Dear The Washington Post:

You are not obligated to publish bad faith content written by disingenuous writers. If you were to simply decline to do that, nothing bad would happen and the quality of the product would improve.

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I don’t know if it’s been mentioned here but apparently the press and police have misgendered and deadnamed the shooter’s sibling. His name is Jordan Cofer.

splinternews.com

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:36:37pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:37:39pm

re: #229 Blind Frog Belly White

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I’ve always liked Edward Hopper and love this painting.

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plansbandc  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:40:29pm

re: #235 gocart mozart

Holy crap.

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:40:53pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:41:43pm

re: #235 gocart mozart

But but Omar.//

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:42:24pm

re: #237 plansbandc

Holy crap.

I know right? They’re usually not that upfront about their Antisemitic violent fantasies.

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plansbandc  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:43:05pm

re: #238 jaunte

Perfect description of those who faced trauma in childhood. Wow.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:44:00pm

So that ICE raid in Mississippi guys. First day of school.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:44:14pm

re: #213 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) Tweeted:
Dear The Washington Post:

You are not obligated to publish bad faith content written by disingenuous writers. If you were to simply decline to do that, nothing bad would happen and the quality of the product would improve.

I kinda want to know Marc’s argument, but I don’t want to personally read it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:44:57pm

re: #234 mmmirele

I don’t know if it’s been mentioned here but apparently the press and police have misgendered and deadnamed the shooter’s sibling. His name is Jordan Cofer.

splinternews.com

I mentioned it in the prior thread. Apparently he had not yet come out to his family so it was natural that their information would not be current.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:45:41pm

re: #242 HappyWarrior

So that ICE raid in Mississippi guys. First day of school.

Maximum confusion. Extra trauma.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:46:49pm

re: #243 Belafon

I kinda want to know Marc’s argument, but I don’t want to personally read it.

His parents are liberals and he held some liberal views.

Typical right wing talking points.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:47:24pm

re: #246 MsJ

His parents are liberals and he held some liberal views.

Typical right wing talking points.

I didn’t read it, BTW. That was my guess.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:49:19pm

MS resident here.

Ironically, after Hurricane Katrina obliterated the MS coast in 2005, there were a shit ton of Latinos who came into this area to help rebuild. So much so that some locals jokingly said that FEMA actually stood for “Find Every Mexican Available”. I’m sure not all those folks were legal but they still busted their asses side by side with the rest of us.

(Yesterday ICE raids were in the greater Jackson area).

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:50:26pm

re: #248 Eclectic Cyb?org

MS resident here.

Ironically, after Hurricane Katrina obliterated the MS coast in 2005, there were a shit ton of Latinos who came into this area to help rebuild. So much so that some locals jokingly said that FEMA actually stood for “Find Every Mexican Available”. I’m sure not all those folks were legal but they still busted their asses side by side with the rest of us.

(Yesterday ICE raids were in the greater Jackson area).

I want to know who is going to work in the plants now? Are they just going to go out of business? What’s the plan?

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Kilroy was here  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:51:26pm

McConnell indicates he won’t call Senate back early for gun debate

thehill.com

Who here is in the least surprised Moscow Mitch is going to try and let the goldfish brains the media forget all about guns until the next time we have another mass murderer with a gun kill dozens of people.

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plansbandc  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:52:36pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:52:46pm

re: #245 wrenchwench

Maximum confusion. Extra trauma.

The cruelty is the point sigh.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:53:52pm

re: #242 HappyWarrior

So that ICE raid in Mississippi guys. First day of school.

The cruelty is the point….

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:54:04pm

re: #246 MsJ

His parents are liberals and he held some liberal views.

Typical right wing talking points.

He had some praise of Warren and Sanders. You know me, I’m no fan of Sanders but he doesn’t incite violence.

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:54:36pm

Mississippi raid related:

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:55:06pm

re: #253 Dave In Austin

The cruelty is the point….

I know. It’s my niece’s first day in a couple weeks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:56:06pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2019 • 1:58:46pm

re: #249 I Would Prefer Not To

I want to know who is going to work in the plants now? Are they just going to go out of business? What’s the plan?

Since the employees in question were undocumented, it’s possible the factory was doing some shady stuff in regards to employing them. Less paperwork and such than for a legal employee.

I would imagine the remaining plant workers would get plenty of OT, at least until some new hands can be brought in.

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plansbandc  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:00:23pm

re: #258 Eclectic Cyborg

They’ll hire more undocumented workers, get raided, rinse/repeat.

Maybe they’ll get a bounty for each “illegal” they hand over. Win!!

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:00:35pm

re: #258 Eclectic Cyborg

Since the employees in question were undocumented, it’s possible a given that the factory was doing some shady stuff in regards to employing them. Less paperwork and such than for a legal employee.

I would imagine the remaining plant workers would get plenty of OT, at least until some new hands can be brought in.

Messed with it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:01:23pm

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fuck him.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:02:00pm

re: #260 wrenchwench

Messed with it.

Touche.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:02:58pm
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Kilroy was here  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:03:16pm

Andrew McCabe sues FBI over firing, alleges plot by Trump to oust those disloyal to the president

washingtonpost.com

This should be easy to prove. There must be daily examples.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:04:58pm

This is obvious, but I wanted to expand on this thought - the Right always brings up ‘mental illness’ as a dodge whenever there’s another shooting, but ‘mental illness’ is an umbrella term that covers everything from catatonic, unresponsive patients, to unhinged folks screaming in the street, to psychopaths like Ted Bundy, to folks who suffer occasional bouts of moderate anxiety. It’s not just a spectrum on a single axis. It’s more like a universe of spectra along different axes.

Also, IIRC, most mass shooters never sought help, were never formally diagnosed, and certainly were never determined to be ‘a danger to self or others’ by any professional. So, how do you write a law, or form a policy that would keep guns out of the hands of people who generally are only posthumously diagnosed? And what about the millions and millions who are ‘mentally ill’ by one definition or another, but are no danger to anyone?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:05:30pm

re: #258 Eclectic Cyborg

Since the employees in question were undocumented, it’s possible the factory was doing some shady stuff in regards to employing them. Less paperwork and such than for a legal employee.

I would imagine the remaining plant workers would get plenty of OT, at least until some new hands can be brought in.

In some states CA, GA fruit it rotting on the trees because there is no one to pick it. This is not good for business.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:07:08pm

re: #244 Hecuba’s daughter

I mentioned it in the prior thread. Apparently he had not yet come out to his family so it was natural that their information would not be current.

Wow. I imagine this will be painful for his parents - ‘Did he not trust us? Was there something we did that kept our child from being honest with us about who he was?’.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:08:19pm

Coming home from Dr & 2 folks in motorized wheelchairs get on. Both chairs covered with Trump stickers and they wear MAGAT caps…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:09:48pm

re: #265 Blind Frog Belly White

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This is obvious, but I wanted to expand on this thought - the Right always brings up ‘mental illness’ as a dodge whenever there’s another shooting, but ‘mental illness’ is an umbrella term that covers everything from catatonic, unresponsive patients, to unhinged folks screaming in the street, to psychopaths like Ted Bundy, to folks who suffer occasional bouts of moderate anxiety. It’s not just a spectrum on a single axis. It’s more like a universe of spectra along different axes.

Also, IIRC, most mass shooters never sought help, were never formally diagnosed, and certainly were never determined to be ‘a danger to self or others’ by any professional. So, how do you write a law, or form a policy that would keep guns out of the hands of people who generally are only posthumously diagnosed? And what about the millions and millions who are ‘mentally ill’ by one definition or another, but are no danger to anyone?

Be nice if his former boss would admit repealing AWB was reckless and done simply to appease the NRA.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:11:22pm

re: #205 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Why do these open carry freaks carry their guns this way? If actually attacked there’s no way to use it quickly.

Oh wait. They’re actually waving their dicks in public so as long it’s visible.

Never mind.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:11:37pm

re: #268 Joe Bacon 🌹

I saw a group of bikers with “TRUMP 2020” flags on their bikes at the Walgreens across the street from where I work a few days ago.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:19:50pm

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Teddy's Person  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:25:26pm

re: #122 DangerMan

Economic Left/Right: -9.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.31

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:25:56pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:28:44pm

re: #58 The Pie Overlord!

Hey, I’m a +46 Republican according to the NYT!

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:30:37pm

re: #238 jaunte

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sometimes nature doesnt take no for an answer

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:30:42pm

re: #273 Teddy’s Person

Economic Left/Right: -9.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.31

Whoa.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:31:39pm

Sometimes Bret Stephens gets things right — the Dayton and the El Paso crimes are not the same.. He rightly calls out Trump’s rhetoric for inspiring the El Paso murderer.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:32:37pm

re: #275 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Hey, I’m a +46 Republican according to the NYT!

I played with it. The most Republican is white, male, Protestant religion is important southerner over 42.

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:33:22pm

Has anyone ever sent screen capped comments of people they know spewing racist bile on the company dollar to their employers?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:34:33pm

re: #278 Hecuba’s daughter

Sometimes Bret Stephens gets things right — the Dayton and the El Paso crimes are not the same.. He rightly calls out Trump’s rhetoric for inspiring the El Paso murderer.

Stopped clock moment but good for him.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:35:11pm

re: #275 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Hey, I’m a +46 Republican according to the NYT!

I’m +28 Democratic, probably for the same reasons as our Pie Overlord.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:36:45pm

re: #249 I Would Prefer Not To

I want to know who is going to work in the plants now? Are they just going to go out of business? What’s the plan?

there is a flip side and i want to be careful here

- where are the fines and arrests and indictments for the owners, HR and everyone else complicit in hiring?

the very least is perjury

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:36:52pm

The point at which publicity-seeking becomes psychopathy.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:37:09pm

re: #250 Kilroy was here

McConnell indicates he won’t call Senate back early for gun debate

thehill.com

Who here is in the least surprised Moscow Mitch is going to try and let the goldfish brains the media forget all about guns until the next time we have another mass murderer with a gun kill dozens of people.

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:38:09pm

The baby was BROUGHT BACK to the hospital to give Trump a photo op.

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:38:40pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:39:35pm

Remember yesterday when I asked if this guy would reply?

He blocked me, of course. Guy pretends to be all into apologetics, but can’t answer a question that will expose that he has no answers.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:41:49pm

re: #277 HappyWarrior

Whoa.

Trump radicalized me. s//

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:43:29pm

re: #263 Charles Johnson

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burrowing owls.
there are burrows all over my neighborhood
there are probably 50 burrows within a mile of #thegreatpoolpondconversion
the owls are up when i run in the morning at 5 or 6

i believe a group of burrowing owls is called a parliament

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:45:09pm

re: #286 jaunte

The baby was BROUGHT BACK to the hospital to give Trump a photo op.

I’m sure the babys caregivers were just thrilled about that.

*spit*

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:46:41pm

re: #265 Blind Frog Belly White

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This is obvious, but I wanted to expand on this thought - the Right always brings up ‘mental illness’ as a dodge whenever there’s another shooting, but ‘mental illness’ is an umbrella term that covers everything from catatonic, unresponsive patients, to unhinged folks screaming in the street, to psychopaths like Ted Bundy, to folks who suffer occasional bouts of moderate anxiety. It’s not just a spectrum on a single axis. It’s more like a universe of spectra along different axes.

Also, IIRC, most mass shooters never sought help, were never formally diagnosed, and certainly were never determined to be ‘a danger to self or others’ by any professional. So, how do you write a law, or form a policy that would keep guns out of the hands of people who generally are only posthumously diagnosed? And what about the millions and millions who are ‘mentally ill’ by one definition or another, but are no danger to anyone?

since they are totally law abiding till the minute they arent, and may, in fact, be ‘unidentifiable, there is no way to write a law, so we shouldnt bother /s

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:48:22pm

re: #270 Romantic Heretic

Why do these open carry freaks carry their guns this way? If actually attacked there’s no way to use it quickly.

Oh wait. They’re actually waving their dicks in public so as long it’s visible.

Never mind.

and you know, i dont want to see either one

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:48:45pm

re: #291 Eclectic Cyborg

No one realized Trump would have taken a photo with any random baby and claimed it was the one.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:49:34pm

re: #294 jaunte

No one realized Trump would have taken a photo with any random baby and claimed it was the one.

Like he did with that girl in Dayton.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:50:12pm

Just another day in America:

The episode began when the two’s vehicles were pulling into Blount Elementary School’s parking lot, Sgt. Jarrett Williams told the outlet, with one eventually pulling a gun and firing at the other.

The other parent ran into the school after the gun was fired, according to Montgomery Department of Public Safety spokesperson Martha Earnhardt. Tom Salter, a spokesperson for Montgomery Public Schools said the suspect then went into the building as well and turned their gun over to office staff, who kept it in a safe until police arrived on the scene.

No one was hurt or killed but a vehicle was damaged during the dispute, according to Williams. Both parents have been taken into custody but their names have not yet been released and what charges they will face remains unclear, according to Williams, who added police are still determining exactly what happened.

The school was briefly placed on lockdown during the incident, which occurred as parents were dropping off their children.

h/t dailykos.com

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:51:03pm

re: #284 jaunte

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The point at which publicity-seeking becomes psychopathy.

the ‘president’ is a soul-less ghoul

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:52:29pm

re: #265 Blind Frog Belly White

The only way to write a law is to limit the capability of firearms people can access. Military style weapons should no longer be available for access.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:54:16pm

re: #298 Belafon

The only way to write a law is to limit the capability of firearms people can access. Military style weapons should no longer be available for access.

well if youre gonna be all reasonable and logical about it….

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:58:05pm

There is no bottom guys. None.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:59:20pm

re: #300 HappyWarrior

There is no bottom guys. None.

only an ongoing race to get there

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 2:59:26pm
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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:00:04pm

I guess Sue Gordon declined to pledge fealty.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:00:42pm

re: #300 HappyWarrior

There is no bottom guys. None.

i understand
and i refuse to think this way
(yet)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:01:48pm

re: #304 DangerMan

i understand
and i refuse to think this way
(yet)

Beto did make me feel good today by showing the best we can be.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:03:42pm

re: #305 HappyWarrior

Beto did make me feel good today by showing the best we can be.

as did biden’s speech (for me)

rays of hope are out there
im not a pollyanna.
i simply will not accept this as the status quo. more of a really horrible passing phase

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:03:47pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:04:05pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Dragonomics  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:04:35pm

re: #270 Romantic Heretic

So they’re shot first. Suicidal open carry.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:05:53pm

re: #307 MsJ

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Yeah well fuck Mattis too.

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Skip Intro  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:06:41pm

re: #300 HappyWarrior

There is no bottom guys. None.

Interesting to see that his wife is just as devoid of a soul as he is.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:07:27pm

re: #306 DangerMan

as did biden’s speech (for me)

rays of hope are out there
im not a pollyanna.
i simply will not accept this as the status quo. more of a really horrible passing phase

even at my most optimistic, I fear that things have to get worse before they can start to get better

been saying that since january of 2017

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:07:35pm

re: #311 Skip Intro

Interesting to see that his wife is just as devoid of a soul as he is.

Yeah.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:07:45pm

re: #311 Skip Intro

Interesting to see that his wife is just as devoid of a soul as he is.

Always had been.

I don’t really care. Do u?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:08:29pm

re: #306 DangerMan

as did biden’s speech (for me)

rays of hope are out there
im not a pollyanna.
i simply will not accept this as the status quo. more of a really horrible passing phase

That was good too. I can’t and won’t accept it

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:09:17pm

re: #314 MsJ

Always had been.

I don’t really care. Do u?

Yep.

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Kilroy was here  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:12:40pm

re: #298 Belafon

The only way to write a law is to limit the capability of firearms people can access. Military style weapons should no longer be available for access.

No more than 5 rounds for rifles and 8 for pistols - Rifles having being top loaded. (no removable magazine)

No magazine fed weapons without a Class III license and tax stamp.

Everything else is extra. Have all the other toys you want on it. It is the number of bullets that matters.

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Skip Intro  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:13:49pm

re: #314 MsJ

Always had been.

I don’t really care. Do u?

I just wonder what kind of a monster their kid is going to become.

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:14:31pm

re: #317 Kilroy was here

Also: limit muzzle velocity for civilian weapons.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:15:39pm

re: #318 Skip Intro

I just wonder what kind of a monster their kid is going to become.

No better/worse than his other offspring. And I’m not excluding Tiffany because who knows?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:17:43pm

re: #320 MsJ

No better/worse than his other offspring. And I’m not excluding Tiffany because who knows?

Agreed but in fairness to her, she and Barron are the only Trumps who haven’t royally pissed me off yet.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:20:38pm

re: #321 Eclectic Cyborg

Agreed but in fairness to her, she and Barron are the only Trumps who haven’t royally pissed me off yet.

Tiffany at least has the good sense to be quiet. Faint praise. I hope of course Barron turns out okay but I’m not optimistic.

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Kilroy was here  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:22:08pm

re: #319 jaunte

Also: limit muzzle velocity for civilian weapons.

No, hunters need the high velocity for accuracy reasons.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:22:31pm

re: #319 jaunte

Also: limit muzzle velocity for civilian weapons.

There it gets tricky, because hunting rifles do need to carry some serious muzzle velocity if you’re shooting at big game. I would not want to be stuck with a snub-nose revolver if I was up against a bear. But then again, I’m the sensible sort of person who does not go about poking the bear, so perhaps I am not the best source.

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:23:13pm

I think the hobbyists have had the upper hand for too long.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:27:46pm

re: #321 Eclectic Cyborg

Agreed but in fairness to her, she and Barron are the only Trumps who haven’t royally pissed me off yet.

Time will tell.

I’m not exactly holding out hope.

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:28:03pm
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plansbandc  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:29:52pm

Off topic sports musing:

My footy team has gotten worlds better in this transfer window. Going to be very interesting watching them gel this season.

C’mon You Gunners!

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jaunte  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:33:55pm

Transatlantic xenophobia plague raging:

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:34:14pm

She also says it’s wrong to call white supremacists Nazis because Nazis killed white people in their genocides.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:37:37pm

re: #330 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

She also says it’s wrong to call white supremacists Nazis because Nazis killed white people in their genocides.

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hey, if the shoe fits…

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:39:54pm

re: #330 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

when progressives criticize white supremacy, they’re actually criticizing Christians

Quite the unlikely admission.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:41:06pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:41:09pm

re: #329 jaunte

Transatlantic xenophobia plague raging:

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Wish all my fellow Slovenian Americans I know who love the Trumps would see this. It’s awful.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:41:38pm

re: #330 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

She also says it’s wrong to call white supremacists Nazis because Nazis killed white people in their genocides.

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Please shut up Sandy.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:42:20pm

re: #332 makeitstop

Quite the unlikely admission.

Yep she sees white supremacy as Christian.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:42:56pm

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nunes. Can’t sell out to Russia completely without a complete traitor in charge.

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:45:14pm

Also, what I can’t understand is why the Iraqi Chaldean man was deported to Iraq if he was born in Greece?

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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:46:35pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:47:14pm

re: #317 Kilroy was here

No more than 5 rounds for rifles and 8 for pistols - Rifles having being top loaded. (no removable magazine)

No magazine fed weapons without a Class III license and tax stamp.

Everything else is extra. Have all the other toys you want on it. It is the number of bullets that matters.

That would outlaw my Lee-Enfield (10 rounds, removable). It would be easy to convert but I figure the average right-wing vigilante gang will be 6-7 nuts strong so the higher capacity might be useful.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:49:07pm

re: #336 HappyWarrior

Yep she sees white supremacy as Christian.

“Love one another as I have loved you…except for those uppity colored folks!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:49:43pm

re: #339 teleskiguy

For me it was that piece of crap sci-movie Supernova way back in 2000. To this day it remains the only movie I’ve ever walked out of.

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Kilroy was here  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:50:05pm

re: #340 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

That would outlaw my Lee-Enfield (10 rounds, removable). It would be easy to convert but I figure the average right-wing vigilante gang will be 6-7 nuts strong so the higher capacity might be useful.

Have a “historic” clause as long as the weapon is bolt action. No changes needed.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:50:33pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:50:36pm

re: #342 Eclectic Cyborg

For me it was that piece of crap sci-movie Supernova way back in 2000. To this day it remains the only movie I’ve ever walked out of.

Twilight.

In my defense, we didn’t know it was a book series, and Mrs. Fish loves vampires. We actually went to see it on opening night… the first red flag was when I was the only male in the entire line.

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darthstar  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:51:33pm

Hey everyone. New job is going well, but I’m falling way behind in my social media time…That’s probably a good thing. Less time seeing crap like this…white boys are so weak…I wasn’t like this in college, I hope.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:52:50pm

re: #338 electrotek

Also, what I can’t understand is why the Iraqi Chaldean man was deported to Iraq if he was born in Greece?

they all look alike to ICE

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:56:45pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Old Liberal  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:56:53pm

re: #249 I Would Prefer Not To

I want to know who is going to work in the plants now? Are they just going to go out of business? What’s the plan?

Sunce it’s MS they’ll turn it into a union plant paying $30 per hour
//

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danarchy  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:57:04pm

re: #338 electrotek

Also, what I can’t understand is why the Iraqi Chaldean man was deported to Iraq if he was born in Greece?

Because Greece doesn’t have birthright citizenship. Unless his parents had lived there legally for 5 years before his birth he was would not automatically get Greek citizenship.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:57:46pm

re: #348 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Oh, I am so happy that story got picked up by a major outlet.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:57:58pm

re: #339 teleskiguy

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re: #342 Eclectic Cyborg

For me it was that piece of crap sci-movie Supernova way back in 2000. To this day it remains the only movie I’ve ever walked out of.

The only movie I walked out of — well actually my husband dragged me out of — was “The Shining” — when I started screaming at the scene with elevator. He was less than pleased at my reaction, especially since I was the one who had wanted to see it.

But the worst movie I saw was “The Waking Life”.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:58:12pm

re: #346 darthstar

Hey everyone. New job is going well, but I’m falling way behind in my social media time…That’s probably a good thing. Less time seeing crap like this…white boys are so weak…I wasn’t like this in college, I hope.

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He’s already majoring in Incel.

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:58:17pm

re: #342 Eclectic Cyborg

For me it was that piece of crap sci-movie Supernova way back in 2000. To this day it remains the only movie I’ve ever walked out of.

Cloverfield. The only movie where I rooted for the monster.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:59:01pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:59:08pm

re: #349 Old Liberal

Sunce it’s MS they’ll turn it into a union plant paying $30 per hour
//

LOL.

I actually count myself very lucky to both live in this state AND somehow have a Unionized job.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2019 • 3:59:36pm

re: #354 makeitstop

Cloverfield. The only movie where I rooted for the monster.

That whole franchise has been a letdown for me.

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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:01:06pm
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Old Liberal  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:02:31pm

re: #265 Blind Frog Belly White

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This is obvious, but I wanted to expand on this thought - the Right always brings up ‘mental illness’ as a dodge whenever there’s another shooting, but ‘mental illness’ is an umbrella term that covers everything from catatonic, unresponsive patients, to unhinged folks screaming in the street, to psychopaths like Ted Bundy, to folks who suffer occasional bouts of moderate anxiety. It’s not just a spectrum on a single axis. It’s more like a universe of spectra along different axes.

Also, IIRC, most mass shooters never sought help, were never formally diagnosed, and certainly were never determined to be ‘a danger to self or others’ by any professional. So, how do you write a law, or form a policy that would keep guns out of the hands of people who generally are only posthumously diagnosed? And what about the millions and millions who are ‘mentally ill’ by one definition or another, but are no danger to anyone?

They aren’t serios so they’ll never answer the question

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NetworkKed  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:04:48pm

The worst movie I spent money on in a theater was probably the Nick Cage vehicle in the mid-late 90s where he’s a private detective (I think) who ends up hunting down people making snuff films. Can’t remember the name, not going to look it up.

The worst movie I’m glad I spent money to see in a theater is The Core. If you don’t know what it is, think “Day After Tomorrow” + “2012” + happy ending with a big heaping dose of voodoo science pretty much nails it perfectly. So very, very serious, and I couldn’t stop laughing. They wanted it to be “Armageddon” and for me at least it landed somewhere around “Rocky Horror”. There was one couple in the theater with me, and I could tell they thought I was high.

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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:05:50pm

re: #361 NetworkKed

The worst movie I spent money on in a theater was probably the Nick Cage vehicle in the mid-late 90s where he’s a private detective (I think) who ends up hunting down people making snuff films. Can’t remember the name, not going to look it up.

8MM, one of Joel Schumacher’s worst films, and that’s saying something, he’s made some stinkers.

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rhuarc  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:06:22pm

re: #361 NetworkKed

The worst movie I spent money on in a theater was probably the Nick Cage vehicle in the mid-late 90s where he’s a private detective (I think) who ends up hunting down people making snuff films. Can’t remember the name, not going to look it up.

8mm

The worst I ever paid for was The Talented Mr. Ripley

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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:08:59pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:09:06pm
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Old Liberal  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:10:15pm

re: #307 MsJ

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But the Generals are full of honor and integrity dontcha know

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Old Liberal  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:12:50pm

re: #330 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

She also says it’s wrong to call white supremacists Nazis because Nazis killed white people in their genocides.

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Rios. Sounds like a rapist or murderer name
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plansbandc  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:14:16pm

I walked out of Xanadu. Soldiered through “Can’t Stop the Music”

So Xanadu “wins”. But damn CSTM was a horrible fucking movie.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:15:04pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:15:44pm

I actually sat all the way through Joe’s Apartment. I did walk out of American Pie, that was a crock of shit, the whole goddamned franchise!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:16:28pm

OK, Commander SURFLANT just followed me on twitter

Maybe he’s a Mets fan

lol

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:17:43pm

re: #371 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, Commander SURFLANT just followed me on twitter

Maybe he’s a Mets fan

lol

There are some papers you didn’t sign…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:18:59pm

re: #369 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Evil bastard

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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:19:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:19:51pm

*thud*

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:21:29pm

The world would be better without Donald Trump. That is all.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:22:44pm

re: #376 I Would Prefer Not To

The world would be better without Donald Trump. That is all.

We need a reverse Clarence.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:23:40pm

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:24:04pm

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

*thud*

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Puke.

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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:26:06pm

A letter to the editor of the Aspen Times, the next valley to the south of me.

As a lifelong gun owner, I taught my four children, their spouses, and my grandchildren to shoot. I served in the U.S. Air Force, and I was a physician in the emergency room of an Aurora hospital the December night of the Chuck E. Cheese’s massacre.

On Tuesday, Sen. Cory Gardner was in Aspen and said he has no desire to implement gun control. The Declaration of Independence says, “We hold these truths to be self evident — we are endowed by our Creator (we Christians call him God) with certain unalienable Rights — Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.” The mass killings in Las Vegas, Sandy Hook, Columbine and the Aurora theater have deprived many people and families of life, liberty, and happiness.

I ask Sen. Gardner: “Are politicians stupid or gutless? Do you as a group lack wisdom to come up with some common sense restrictions or lack courage to do the right thing?” Stop worrying about reelection. Even though you are the fifth largest recipient of NRA funds, they will not be able to buy you the election. The people of Colorado deserve reasonable protections. Instead of thinking the problem is about gun restrictions, think of it as human life protection laws. People in other countries watch violent video games, suffer mental illness, and have lunatic fringe. The difference is the U.S. has massive gun ownership and minimal restrictions.

William Mitchell

Aspen

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:26:47pm

re: #377 HappyWarrior

We need a reverse Clarence.

“I’m here to show you what the world would be like if you had never been born.”

[TIME PASSES]

“Wow. Without me, everybody seems so much happier.”

“EXACTLY.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:27:20pm

re: #381 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

“I’m here to show you what the world would be like if you had never been born.”

[TIME PASSES]

“Wow. Without me, everybody seems so much happier.”

“EXACTLY.”

There actually was a skit like this.

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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:28:40pm

Speaking of my lousy senator from Yuma…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:29:26pm

re: #383 teleskiguy

Speaking of my lousy senator from Yuma…

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I’m gonna be so happy for you and my aunt when he’s beaten.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:30:22pm

my shocked face…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:31:02pm

re: #385 Backwoods_Sleuth

my shocked face…

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Who the fuck elected the NRA? Not me

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:33:18pm

re: #385 Backwoods_Sleuth

my shocked face…

How the actual fuck does the head of the NRA get a direct line to the White House?

Oh. Right.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:34:03pm

re: #387 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

How the actual fuck does the head of the NRA get a direct line to the White House?

Oh. Right.

Moscow area code?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:34:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:35:12pm

re: #389 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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But but weapons bans don’t work. Ask the Gish Gallop guy.//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:37:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:41:11pm

re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth

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His wife ran in my district. She did pretty well all things considered. I’m sick of this toddler. Imagine how much more we don’t know.

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TedStriker  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:45:16pm

re: #345 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Twilight.

In my defense, we didn’t know it was a book series, and Mrs. Fish loves vampires. We actually went to see it on opening night… the first red flag was when I was the only male in the entire line.

REAL VAMPIRES DON’T SPARKLE, DAMNIT!!!!

///

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:48:36pm

Shout at the Devil.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:50:46pm

The worst movie I ever paid money to see in a theater? I’ve seen very few movies in theaters in recent decades and all of them have been solid hits so I have to go way back in time before DVD & VHS were invented.

*thinks*

OK the worst movie I ever saw was this horrible stinkbomb starring Anthony Newley “Hieronymous Merkin” which was all about an older man running around after a younger, possibly underage, female. It was supposed to be a “parody” of “Lolita” or something. Anyway it was awful, awful, awful.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:52:56pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:54:19pm
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:56:41pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:56:44pm

Christ, this was a Law & Order episode over a decade ago

An Ohio woman who bought her family home ancestry kits for Christmas got a surprise of her own when the tests revealed the dad who raised her isn’t her biological father.

Now Rebecca Cartellone, 24, and her parents are suing the Cincinnati fertility clinic they blame for planting a stranger’s sperm into Rebecca’s mother Jennifer. According to the Columbus Dispatch, the sperm may have belonged to a Christ Hospital physician rather than Joseph Cartellone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:57:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 4:59:57pm

re: #397 The Pie Overlord!

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Talk to that guy in Nebraska. He’s a Republican and he thinks your party is racist. No one believes a goddamn thing you say Ronna.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:00:35pm
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Romantic Heretic  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:01:10pm

re: #338 electrotek

Because Muslim,

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:01:58pm

re: #402 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I remember when Blago was the poster child for both sides corruption.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:04:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:06:28pm

re: #405 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Some of the worst things long term they’re doing won’t make headlines.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:08:37pm

re: #402 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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names…I want names

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:10:04pm

re: #345 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Twilight.

In my defense, we didn’t know it was a book series, and Mrs. Fish loves vampires. We actually went to see it on opening night… the first red flag was when I was the only male in the entire line.

Nothing took the pride out my vampire anthology than someone complaining my vampires were nothing like Edward.

Of course not! My vampires are night dwelling, bloodsucking, undead monsters! Kind, generous, erudite night dwelling, bloodsucking, undead monsters, but still.

Why would you care about an emo teen pretending to be old who is dumb enough to get involved with a doormat?

Man, I hate those pieces of crap masquerading as novels.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:10:04pm

re: #405 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

We don’t need science, we’ve got WHITE AMERICAN JESUS.

Because trying to protect ourselves against global warming-caused disasters like the spring rains that trashed the Bible belt’s corn crop is apparently inconceivable to these people.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:10:18pm

re: #405 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That’s ok. Canada will take them just like how they’re taking tech workers. France, too.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:10:22pm

re: #404 HappyWarrior

I remember when Blago was the poster child for both sides corruption.

Ya know, overall I could really care less if he commutes the sentence. Sure, it’s pathetic since it’s obviously partly a result of his appearance on The Apprentice.
But, it’s not a pardon

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:10:45pm

re: #411 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Ya know, overall I could really care less if he commutes the sentence. Sure, it’s pathetic since it’s obviously partly a result of his appearance on The Apprentice.
But, it’s not a pardon

True.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:11:30pm
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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:12:51pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

+48.

+48 also.

And most of that is the initial religion question. The rest just sort of zig-zag and not change the total much.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:13:36pm

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

So Americans don’t want those jobs, but we’re going to deport all the illegals who come in to work them… Something isn’t adding up to me.

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plansbandc  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:15:10pm

The fact that the author of the Twilight books made as much money as she did/continues to do is a sign of the end times.

That is some of the worst shit I’ve ever attempted to read.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:15:59pm

re: #414 Feline Fearless Leader

+48 also.

And most of that is the initial religion question. The rest just sort of zig-zag and not change the total much.

+42 Republican. Sorry, NY Times, that’s why I’m so alone in this world. I fit the demographic profile of a fat white Republican male, but I’m not.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:16:06pm

re: #415 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

So Americans don’t want those jobs, but we’re going to deport all the illegals who come in to work them… Something isn’t adding up to me.

My one brother was telling me that the El Paso guy wanted to work the bare min.

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mmmirele  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:16:10pm

Paige Patterson, the former president of Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and former president of the Southern Baptist Convention, is a horrible, horrible man.

Paige Patterson, the former Southern Baptist Convention president who was recently removed as a seminary head for his handling of sex abuse claims, is being sued by a woman who says he threatened, intimidated and humiliated her after she reported multiple rapes to him.

The woman, a former student of Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary who is listed as “Jane Roe” in the suit, accuses Patterson of shaming and ignoring her after she said she was repeatedly stalked and raped at gunpoint by a male seminary student in 2014 and 2015.

*snip*

In October 2014, Roe says she awoke to John Doe sexually assaulting her and brandishing a gun. He threatened her with murder-suicide the next day, the suit says, and would often load guns in front of her and say he would “bury her.”

On other occasions, he “brutally pulled out” chunks of Roe’s hair, nearly strangled her or sexually assaulted her. He once cornered her in a restroom and, armed with a gun, took photos of her as he again raped her, the suit says.

*snip*

Months later, Roe arrived at what she thought would be a routine meeting with a seminary professor, who was also an assistant to Patterson’s wife. Paige Patterson was there and, according to the suit, told Roe’s professor about the alleged rapes. When Roe asked that her professor be allowed to leave the room, Patterson said Roe’s family would also have to exit, the suit says. The family did not leave, it says.

He then told her he had obtained a copy of her confidential police report, and had reached out to Doe, who he said told him that they had a consensual relationship. Doe said he had nude photos of Roe that proved she consented to his advances, according to the suit.

The photos, Roe said, were taken while she was being raped at gunpoint in a bathroom.

When Roe’s mother asked Patterson why Doe had been allowed to enroll at the seminary despite his alleged criminal past, Patterson “lunged across the table, firmly pointed his finger in her face and threatened to ‘unleash’ lawyers on her if she dared question his leadership,” the suit says.

houstonchronicle.com

This guy is from Satan. And this lawsuit explains why the Southern Baptist Convention is a deeply sick organization and is deservedly losing people every day.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:17:14pm

re: #417 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

+42 Republican. Sorry, NY Times, that’s why I’m so alone in this world. I fit the demographic profile of a fat white Republican male, but I’m not.

I tried my family members. My old man is plus 7 R but my mom and grandma are more Democratic. I was surprised my mom said religion wasn’t important in her life.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:18:13pm

re: #409 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

We don’t need science, we’ve got WHITE AMERICAN JESUS.

Because trying to protect ourselves against global warming-caused disasters like the spring rains that trashed the Bible belt’s corn crop is apparently inconceivable to these people.

I wonder what this will do to his popularity in red farm states (not a redundancy, CA is a big agricultural state). To add to the trade war.

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Sea Mexican  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:19:49pm

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

hey andres:

Yup. Apparently some of the alleged kingmakers in the PNP (Rivera Shatz and Jennifer González) are trying to get the latter named State Secretary, and then force Vazquez to resign so González would become governor. The PNP directory had a meeting today.

Vazquez is viewed by many as a continuation of the Rossello dynasty. There is one screenshot running around where she’s asking the Treasury Secretary to not send her evidence so she doesn’t have to investigate. That raises suspicion of similar chats involving her in scandal.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:19:56pm

re: #421 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

I wonder what this will do to his popularity in red farm states (not a redundancy, CA is a big agricultural state). To add to the trade war.

If it hurts his popularity there, we could be looking at a landslide.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:19:57pm

There are many problems with that NYT quiz. Most of all, it fails to acknowledge that education level is a determiner even for white males.

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Old Liberal  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:20:09pm

re: #415 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

So Americans don’t want those jobs, but we’re going to deport all the illegals who come in to work them… Something isn’t adding up to me.

Americans will do those jobs at $25 per hour but the rich don’t want anyone making that and people dont want to pay a lot more for their meat. Hence…..,

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:20:49pm

re: #402 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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“Many people” is how Trump refers to himself. “Many people don’t know…” etc.

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TedStriker  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:23:12pm

re: #426 The Pie Overlord!

“Many people” is how Trump refers to himself. “Many people don’t know…” etc.

Which, for once, wouldn’t be a lie, because he weighs about as much as 2-3 people…

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:23:52pm

re: #415 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

So Americans don’t want those jobs, but we’re going to deport all the illegals who come in to work them… Something isn’t adding up to me.

I saw a documentary a few years back about employment in the chicken processing plants, which was increasingly hispanic. The conclusion was that “anglos” who wanted those jobs could get them, and that they were not being pushed out. (Although they thought they were, and resented their new co-workers, especially because they — shudder — spoke Spanish. In PUBLIC.)

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:24:36pm

re: #425 Old Liberal

Americans will do those jobs at $25 per hour but the rich don’t want anyone making that and people dont want to pay a lot more for their meat. Hence…..,

I thought Conservatives didn’t believe in minimum wage.

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Old Liberal  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:26:26pm

re: #429 DodgerFan1988

I thought Conservatives didn’t believe in minimum wage.

They believe in the absolute minimum wage

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:28:05pm

re: #425 Old Liberal

Americans will do those jobs at $25 per hour but the rich don’t want anyone making that and people dont want to pay a lot more for their meat. Hence…..,

No, it seems they’re still taking them at minimum wage levels. Unlike farm work.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:28:06pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:29:20pm

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Another acting placeholder.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:29:37pm

It’s a small number, compared to some of you, but this is my 5,000th post.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:30:30pm

re: #434 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

It’s a small number, compared to some of you, but this is my 5,000th post.

Congrats

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:31:26pm

re: #405 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

David Corn

@DavidCornDC
Thank you, Trump voters.

Thank you BernieBros

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plansbandc  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:31:39pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:31:44pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:32:32pm

re: #438 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sick son of a bitch.

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Skip Intro  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:34:30pm

re: #419 mmmirele

Paige Patterson, the former president of Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and former president of the Southern Baptist Convention, is a horrible, horrible man.

houstonchronicle.com

This guy is from Satan. And this lawsuit explains why the Southern Baptist Convention is a deeply sick organization and is deservedly losing people every day.

Here’s another crazy eyed religious grifter who has those satanic eyes.

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:39:14pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:39:58pm

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
* 1h
I am pleased to inform you that the Honorable Joseph Maguire, current Director of the National Counterterrorism Center, will be named Acting Director of National Intelligence, effective August 15th. Admiral Maguire has a long and distinguished….

At least this appointment doesn’t seem terrible — or does Maguire have some disqualifying characteristic?

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:40:35pm

The week El Paso shooter was radicalized online.

apple.news

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:40:58pm

re: #438 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Skip Intro  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:41:13pm

Right now America is 1933 Germany.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:41:22pm

re: #442 Hecuba’s daughter

At least this appointment doesn’t seem terrible — or does Maguire have some disqualifying characteristic?

Betcha he’s profiting from the same thing that Kelly and Mattis are.

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Skip Intro  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:43:07pm

re: #442 Hecuba’s daughter

At least this appointment doesn’t seem terrible — or does Maguire have some disqualifying characteristic?

I read that as Joseph Mengele at first glance.

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darthstar  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:47:26pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:48:42pm

re: #127 DangerMan

i just took it again and wound up
Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.15

For me, the results were
Economic Left/Right: -6.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.59

Oh, and in the New York Times thing, I’m +79 Democrat.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:52:11pm

re: #447 Skip Intro

I read that as Joseph Mengele at first glance.

I did too.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:53:49pm

She’s a member if the US Squash team

She can be seen in a team photo here
Team USA Wins Fourth Consecutive Battle of the Border

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Citizen K  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:54:39pm

God, I’m just begging for some kind of good news to come out of this entire shitshow of a week.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 5:59:52pm

re: #339 teleskiguy

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:02:07pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:10:05pm

re: #127 DangerMan

i just took it again and wound up
Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.15

-7.25 Economic, -5.49 Social. My family would be appalled.

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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:10:07pm

Then there’s this

In order to be in the meet and greet they had to sign a non-disclosure agreement which also allowed the Trump Campaign to use the video for campaign purposes.

As a result, only those hospital staff willing to be used by the Trump campaign probably signed the agreement - meaning a friendly audience.

So they aren’t actors (which is how directly read the tweet), just stupid and gullible (and prob violates the Hatch Act)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:12:04pm

Llre: #455 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

-7.25 Economic, -5.49 Social. My family would be appalled.

Wow you’re even more left than I am haha.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:12:43pm

re: #456 DangerMan

Then there’s this

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In order to be in the meet and greet they had to sign a non-disclosure agreement which also allowed the Trump Campaign to use the video for campaign purposes.

As a result, only those hospital staff willing to be used by the Trump campaign probably signed the agreement - meaning a friendly audience.

So they aren’t actors (which is how directly read the tweet), just stupid and gullible (and prob violates the Hatch Act)

This is so sick.

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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:13:14pm
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DangerMan  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:13:29pm

re: #442 Hecuba’s daughter

At least this appointment doesn’t seem terrible — or does Maguire have some disqualifying characteristic?

Ask the media /s

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:15:13pm

re: #457 HappyWarrior

Ll

Wow you’re even more left than I am haha.

I have done a MAJOR about-face on a lot of economic issues. Fuck capitalism. I want this planet to still be around for my kids and grandkids.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:19:00pm

re: #461 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I have done a MAJOR about-face on a lot of economic issues. Fuck capitalism. I want this planet to still be around for my kids and grandkids.

I definitely really hate a lot of what is being sold to us too. Capitalism as we are being sold it is plutocracy.

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:20:22pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:20:42pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:23:11pm

re: #464 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Southeast part of the state. So I’m in the clear. Still, that’d be something I wouldn’t be afraid to see, tarantulas are basically harmless.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:23:24pm

re: #234 mmmirele

I don’t know if it’s been mentioned here but apparently the press and police have misgendered and deadnamed the shooter’s sibling. His name is Jordan Cofer.

splinternews.com

re: #244 Hecuba’s daughter

I mentioned it in the prior thread. Apparently he had not yet come out to his family so it was natural that their information would not be current.

Wonder why this story hasn’t yet been reported on the MSM yet? Or did I overlook the coverage?

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Stanley Sea  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:26:19pm

re: #434 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Hail fellow Tortie minion.

Happy National 🐱 day.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:28:35pm

re: #448 darthstar

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danarchy  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:47:44pm

re: #456 DangerMan

Then there’s this

[Embedded content]

In order to be in the meet and greet they had to sign a non-disclosure agreement which also allowed the Trump Campaign to use the video for campaign purposes.

As a result, only those hospital staff willing to be used by the Trump campaign probably signed the agreement - meaning a friendly audience.

So they aren’t actors (which is how directly read the tweet), just stupid and gullible (and prob violates the Hatch Act)

Not that I would put it past Trump, but why are you taking a random twitter post with no citation as gospel?

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nicdanger  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:47:46pm

re: #453 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Saw that double bill at our local midnite cinema back in the seventies.I can’t really recall if those were the worst,there were so very many to choose from that deserved that designation

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William Lewis  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:50:51pm

re: #58 The Pie Overlord!

I took this quiz and was rated +28 Democratic although the first 4 questions had me sliding to the Republican side.

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+67 Republican? Yeah right kids but your stats only show part of the picture.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2019 • 6:57:39pm
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Belafon  Aug 8, 2019 • 7:35:43pm

re: #445 Skip Intro

Right now America is 1933 Germany.

We’re also pre-Trudeau Canada.


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GINO VANELLI BROTHER to BROTHERRemember complex musical compositions? GINO VANELLI BROTHER TO BROTHER DARYL STUERMER MARK CRANEY Buy songs at ITUNES: music.apple.com
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 190818a lot of work was done. it may not look like muchsince it was 'only' 95 degrees, we managed two solid hours today. first we built a short ramp so we could back up onto the deck. That cart full ...
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John Coltrane - Blue World (Visualizer)Music video by John Coltrane performing Blue World (Visualizer). © 2019 UMG Recordings, Inc. vevo.ly
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The Revivalists - Oh No (Made in Muscle Shoals) We snuck away to the legendary Fame Studios in Muscle Shoals to record this special live version of "Oh No".Stream the new version: found.ee Directed & Produced by Jay SansoneVideographer - Frank BernalVideographer - Dan Ladue Stream/Order Take Good ...
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The Nude Party - Gringo Che (Live on the Current)The Nude Party perform 'Gringo Che' from their self-titled 2018 album live in The Current studio.
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Gary Clark Jr. - Pearl Cadillac - Live at Lollapalooza 2019, Saturday August 3, 2019
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 190811Yesterday we began some backfilling. Dumping sand between the sandbags we laid last week and the pool wall. Then raking flat, and tamping down. After that we build more sandbag wall, then more sand, etc., till we get to the ...
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The Black Keys - Go [‘Let’s Rock’ Tour Rehearsals] Watch the tour rehearsal video for “Go” now ⚡ Catch the band on the "Let's Rock" Tour this Autumn. Get tickets now at theblackkeys.com 2019 TOUR DATESSep 21 | Las Vegas, NVSep 23 | Denver, CO Sep 24 | ...
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THE IMPOSTORS - Don’t Get Mad (1980) Here's a band I sometimes skipped meals to pay the cover for in the early '80's - The Impostors. Johnny Campbell, the drummer, would also sometimes work as Jo Allen and the Shapes drummer when Jo Allen (also a ...
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Elizabeth Warren Introduces Sweeping Gun Control Plan Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren introduced a sweeping gun control plan Saturday with the goal of reducing gun deaths by 80% through executive action and legislation. "You've got to start with a goal. I haven't heard anybody else talk about ...
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