Bruce Hornsby & the Noisemakers: “Dreamland”

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Isn’t this old night so nice
I hope you can feel what I feel tonight
Little boy’s not getting it right
Trying so hard with all his might

Clouds in the sky keeping the sun away
Doesn’t mean the sun is not shining today
Seems something is always in your way
You’ve got a wide, wide array of insurmountable problems every day

Hey, slip away, slide away
Into dreamland, dreamland
Slip away, slide away
Into dream, dream, dreamland, dream, dreamland

In your own private place of dreams
I hope you’ll find a place where it seems
The road is always straight and true
Wherever you walk is bright for you

I hope you’ll remember these times we share
Hope you’ll find some comfort there
In the meantime lose your cares
You can go anywhere, close your eyes and it will take you there

Slip away, slide away
Into dreamland, dreamland
Slip away, slide away
Into dream, dream, dreamland, dream, dreamland

Isn’t this old night so nice, so nice
Gonna cherish my time with you
Gonna smile, smile the whole day through
Wake up tomorrow maybe you’ll find
Darkness gone from your mind

Want you to be what you want to be
Don’t want you ever hurt like me
Smiling through the saddest times
Could only happens in dreams, I wonder is it nice as it seems

Slip away, slide away
Into dreamland, dreamland
Slip away, slide away
Into dream, dream, dreamland, dream, dreamland
Dream, dream, dreamland
Dream, dream, dreamland
Dream, dream, dreamland

Maybe you’ll get your wishes in dreams this night
Because I can’t seem to do it here in real life
Dream, dream, dreamland
Dream, dream, dreamland

Maybe you’ll get your wishes in dreams this night
Because I can’t seem to help you in real life
Into dream, dream, dreamland, dream, dreamland

#BruceHornsby #Dreamland #LiveMusic

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251 comments

1
Dread Pirate  Aug 11, 2019 • 10:02:51pm

Trump has certainly had an influence on foreign relations.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 11, 2019 • 10:18:01pm

Finally took the test:

Economic Left/Right: -8.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28

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austin_blue  Aug 11, 2019 • 10:28:00pm

re: #1 Dread Pirate

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Trump has certainly had an influence on foreign relations.

Well, if you are a narcissistic sociopath without any deep knowledge of international affairs, whose initial reaction to any negative reaction to your statements is to whip out your mushroom shaped pussy plug and wave it around screaming “I am smarter and more powerful than you because I am rich and the POTUS!”, there is an extraordinary chance that your foreign policy will resemble a giant pile of steaming shit.

And your domestic policy. And your immigration policy. And your domestic economic policy.

At least the motherfucker is consistent. Completely incompetent, but consistent.

Dog help us all. Just let us survive the next 15 months until we can either impeach this walking trash bag of a human being or vote him out.

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austin_blue  Aug 11, 2019 • 10:30:44pm

Drive by comment, been a busy weekend. She Who Must Be Obeyed has had a busy gig schedule.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 11, 2019 • 11:10:41pm

reality as the onion, or maybe the other way around

Border chief explains why there have been no ICE raids at Trump properties

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Targetpractice  Aug 11, 2019 • 11:15:52pm

I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised that there are those in the media who think Trump some symbol of “masculinity,” considering they’ve spent the past four years trying to convince us that a man who has been in bankruptcy court so many times that he should have his own reserved parking space and who continues to duck every attempt at scrutiny of his financials is actually a “successful businessman.”

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Dread Pirate  Aug 11, 2019 • 11:34:08pm

Breier resigned as Assistant Secretary of State for Western Hemisphere Affairs on August 8, 2019 due to internal disputes over immigration policies. She also fought with National Security Council official Mauricio Claver-Carone over the administration’s Venezuela policy. - Wikipedia

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Dread Pirate  Aug 11, 2019 • 11:42:29pm

Did Kelly Services provide the Ambassadors? I mean, it is a part time/temporary position these days.

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Cheechako  Aug 11, 2019 • 11:50:43pm

re: #8 Dread Pirate

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Did Kelly Services provide the Ambassadors? I mean, it is a part time/temporary position these days.

Who are they? And how much did they contribute (pay) for the appointment?

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Targetpractice  Aug 12, 2019 • 12:03:05am

Decided to check the 538 article and really, they’re not even suggesting that Trump’s base see him as “manly,” but instead that they like his “tough guy” appearance. And that’s just a nice way of saying that the wife-beating, brain-dead knuckle-draggers he calls a “base” love the character he played on that “reality TV” series called The Apprentice. These are the same morons who thought Reagan the symbol of “manliness” because he knew how to ride a horse or popped wood when they saw images of Dubya “tending” his ranch. These are the ones who, when Donny is heard to be on the outs with one of his underlings, tweet about how he should have them brought into the Oval Office so he can say “You’re fired.” Yet it’s never happened, he either forces their “resignation” or he announces the firing over Twitter and then leaves another underling to deliver the news.

So when they that he has a “tough guy” persona, what they really mean is his base gets a chubby when he acts like a rich asshole. No matter how much of a lie it is, they love him for it and that’s why Nate thinks it’s going to be some sort of problem.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 12, 2019 • 12:08:42am

The White House itself is retweeting this stupid shit.

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teleskiguy  Aug 12, 2019 • 12:45:13am
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teleskiguy  Aug 12, 2019 • 12:46:09am

What I look like. I’m not afraid.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 12, 2019 • 1:05:34am
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Dread Pirate  Aug 12, 2019 • 1:44:32am

So, did that UAE investigation into the tanker bombings in the Gulf of Oman determine anything about the events or did they give up on the US/SA charade to blame Iran?

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Dread Pirate  Aug 12, 2019 • 2:05:13am

The Perseid meteor shower has officially started. I saw 2 meteors within a minute. Nothing since. :( That’s a lot for one night in the over-lit bay area. Visibility is surprisingly good even with the moon tonight. Even at 3900’ elevation it’s not much better.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 12, 2019 • 2:40:51am

If only they hadn’t followed the false prophecy of Donald J Trump.

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Chrysicat  Aug 12, 2019 • 3:39:25am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2019 • 3:55:49am

re: #17 Dread Pirate

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If only they hadn’t followed the false prophecy of Donald J Trump.

Why now? And his swearing is the least offensive thing about him.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 12, 2019 • 3:57:14am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 12, 2019 • 4:08:41am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 12, 2019 • 4:25:23am

Lekima is stuck in place, as expected, in northeast China, while Kurosa has weakened but is still a huge storm and is expected to strengthen again before hitting Japan:

Lekima is causing wide scale flooding leading to lots of loss:

Death toll rises to 44 as typhoon Lekima wreaks havoc in eastern China

The death toll from typhoon Lekima in eastern China rose to 44 people on Monday morning, according to official data, as the storm continued up the coast, racking up billions of dollars in economic losses and widely disrupting travel.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 12, 2019 • 4:51:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2019 • 5:16:14am

re: #23 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

China slams violent Hong Kong protests as ‘terrorism’

Same thing they say about Uighur separatists in Xinkiang province.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 12, 2019 • 5:18:19am

re: #24 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Same thing they say about Uighur separatists in Xinkiang province.

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2019 • 5:22:28am

From the previous thread:

re: #245 goddamnedfrank

You need a 700c front wheel. The 38 is the tire size (that’s pretty wide on a 700c wheel.) The inside surfaces of the front fork dropouts almost certainly measure 100mm, but it doesn’t hurt to measure just to be sure. Then I’d go to a local bike shop or REI. Here’s a cheap $45 front wheel on REI that’ll get the job done. You’ll also need a tube, tire, some 10mm rim tape, a tire lever and a pump with a Presta valve head if you’re gonna DIY.

Thanks. One of the things I couldn’t figure out was how wide the rim needed to be in order to match that tire width.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 12, 2019 • 5:31:52am

re: #17 Dread Pirate

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If only they hadn’t followed the false prophecy of Donald J Trump.

But I would bet they were all in on this.

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jeffreyw  Aug 12, 2019 • 5:45:02am

Good morning!
Can anyone ID on the bird on the far left?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2019 • 5:48:56am

re: #17 Dread Pirate

A Trump-supporting West Virginia state senator who represents many evangelicals got three phone calls from constituents complaining about Trump’s profanity after a recent rally

I would like to see this as a sign that at least some of the religious right is starting to turn on Trump.

Does not mean that they would abandon the GOP for a Democrat, though…

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Chrysicat  Aug 12, 2019 • 5:59:49am

re: #28 jeffreyw

I think it’s a female—or a fall-plumage male—American Goldfinch?

But I’m not totally sure.

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Chrysicat  Aug 12, 2019 • 6:05:38am

re: #30 Chrysicat

I do know you’re definitely good at drawing finches to that feeder—the guy in the centre looks like a purple finch, but I think you’re too far south to be in their summer range, so does that make him a house finch instead?

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 12, 2019 • 6:15:52am

Unladen swallow?

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2019 • 6:16:55am

re: #14 Dave In Austin

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That’s totally wrong and I’m glad she did it and they caught it on tape.

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2019 • 6:21:44am

re: #17 Dread Pirate

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If only they hadn’t followed the false prophecy of Donald J Trump.

Someone should tell Trump, but tell him they are trying to take away his first amendment rights, and then let him rant about how people are trying to keep him from saying Gam damn.

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jeffreyw  Aug 12, 2019 • 6:25:32am

re: #31 Chrysicat

I’m pretty sure they are house finches. The unknown bird may be a juvenile female cardinal. Here’s a pair of goldfinches in a photo taken this time of year:

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 12, 2019 • 6:25:38am

Not sure who wrote this, but a friend of mine loves to do this kind of thing on his FB.

Enjoy

Good Mornin Y’all. It’s wholesome Monday (Punday) and here is today’s snicker for you.

Dough Boy Dies
Veteran Pillsbury spokesman Pop N. Fresh died Wednesday of a severe yeast infection. He was 71.
He was buried Friday in one of the biggest funerals in years. Dozens of celebrities turned out including Mrs. Butterworth, the California Raisins, Hungry Jack, Betty Crocker, and the Hostess Twinkies.
The graveside was piled high with flours, as longtime friend Aunt Jemima delivered the eulogy, describing Fresh as a man who “never knew he was kneaded”.
Fresh rose quickly in show business, but his later life was filled with turnovers. He was not considered a smart cookie, and wasted much of his dough on half-baked schemes.
Still, even as a crusty old man, he was a roll model to millions. Fresh is survived by his second wife. They had two children, and one in the oven.

The funeral was at 3:50 for 20 minutes.

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lawhawk  Aug 12, 2019 • 6:37:38am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

Want to know why women don’t come forward when they have been raped? It’s because cops don’t believe them. It’s because they’re victimized at every step. And even rape isn’t called rape by media outlets when there is no other way to describe it.

Consider:

That’s right; a 14 year old girl is sexually assaulted by a cop in his patrol car, but the headline is cop has sex with girl in car. “Florida trooper had sex with 14-year-old girl in the back of his car: authorities”

Florida trooper raped a 14-year old girl in his patrol car: authorities. Even if that quote is from the “authorities” it shows what women are up against. They can be sexually assaulted and the authorities treat it as sex unless… A 14-year old cannot consent by law. It is statutory rape. Period. That girl was raped. That’s the headline.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2019 • 6:38:17am

re: #37 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

Want to know why women don’t come forward when they have been raped? It’s because cops don’t believe them. It’s because they’re victimized at every step. And even rape isn’t called rape by media outlets when there is no other way to describe it.

Consider:

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That’s right; a 14 year old girl is sexually assaulted by a cop in his patrol car, but the headline is cop has sex with girl in car. “Florida trooper had sex with 14-year-old girl in the back of his car: authorities”

Florida trooper raped a 14-year old girl in his patrol car: authorities. Even if that quote is from the “authorities” it shows what women are up against. They can be sexually assaulted and the authorities treat it as sex unless… A 14-year old cannot consent by law. It is statutory rape. Period. That girl was raped. That’s the headline.

JFC

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 12, 2019 • 6:48:42am
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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 12, 2019 • 6:48:46am

It’s a damn hateful policy. Cruel is the point.

Trump admin announces rule that could limit legal immigration
The 837-page rule applies to those seeking to come to or remain in the United States via legal channels.
The so-called public charge rule is designed to ensure immigrants can support themselves financially. In doing so, though, it’ll likely make it harder for low-income immigrants to come to the US.

Turning our back on poor refugees, poor immigrants is not the America I want. And they dare to say our side wants to destroy America. Profanities withheld.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 12, 2019 • 6:49:25am

re: #39 The Pie Overlord!

LOL 4 seconds my friend.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2019 • 6:49:29am

re: #39 The Pie Overlord!

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Cruel assholes

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2019 • 6:50:01am

re: #41 Rightwingconspirator

LOL 4 seconds my friend.

They are so cruel. It’s heartbreaking.

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2019 • 6:52:33am

re: #39 The Pie Overlord!

The ACLU needs to sue over this one.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2019 • 6:54:54am
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 12, 2019 • 6:58:15am
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Old Liberal  Aug 12, 2019 • 6:58:54am

re: #6 Targetpractice

I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised that there are those in the media who think Trump some symbol of “masculinity,” considering they’ve spent the past four years trying to convince us that a man who has been in bankruptcy court so many times that he should have his own reserved parking space and who continues to duck every attempt at scrutiny of his financials is actually a “successful businessman.”

I think it is accepted by drumpfers that he is a “strong man”. For those who desire a rude arrogant bigoted insulting leader, no one the Democrats could offer would fit the bill. To me its like saying Democrats can’t get the bigot vote. True, so what?

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DangerMan  Aug 12, 2019 • 6:59:41am

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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:01:30am

re: #48 DangerMan

“A self-checkout lane took your job.”

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Teukka  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:05:40am

re: #48 DangerMan

re: #49 Decatur Deb

“A self-checkout lane took your job.”

TRUFAX.

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Chrysicat  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:11:27am

re: #35 jeffreyw

I’m pretty sure they are house finches. The unknown bird may be a juvenile female cardinal. Here’s a pair of goldfinches in a photo taken this time of year:

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Are you seeing a crest on the unknown that I’m not? That head looks pretty rounded to me, and that looks like yellow as well, just not as intense as in the pic you added, maybe due to the light?

But I’m not going to fight too much, and you may be right that the bill’s just too tall for a goldfinch.

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:15:12am

Thread:

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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:17:54am

re: #50 Teukka

TRUFAX.

The assembly line that put me through college had 20,000 workers, most of us union stiffs. Now it has 12,000, half of them code monkeys and such.

en.wikipedia.org

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sagehen  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:20:28am

re: #46 The Pie Overlord!

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NYC is perhaps the one place in America where that… isn’t going to be allowed to stand.

A place where they even close the public schools for Rosh Hashonah and Yom Kippur, because there aren’t half enough substitutes for the number of teachers who’ll be out those days.

(also, alternate-side-of-the-street-parking is suspended).

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:23:51am
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lawhawk  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:27:53am

Trump is looking to end nonwhite immigration to the US. It’s about stopping nonwhites coming here. It’s the racism and white nationalist/xenophobia. It’s the GOP that is fine with this racism and bigotry. They’re good with all this.

Why?

Because they’re fucking racists and comfortable enabling a racist white supremacist who wants to deny legal immigration to nonwhites.

For those in the cheap seats: Trump wants to stop nonwhites coming here legally. That includes asylum, but it also includes those seeking green cards and ultimately naturalization. He doesn’t want nonwhites here.

It’s the racism. It’s always been the racism.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:29:33am

re: #55 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The GOP must be destroyed.

It is imperative that come next year, we send the GOP into the electoral wilderness for the next 30 years, at a bare minimum; ideally, for the next 50 years. But that’s going to require getting out there and voting, even in local special elections, even if it’s for the municipal dogcatcher.

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:30:07am
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Belafon  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:30:26am
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jeffreyw  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:31:02am

re: #51 Chrysicat

Are you seeing a crest on the unknown that I’m not? That head looks pretty rounded to me, and that looks like yellow as well, just not as intense as in the pic you added, maybe due to the light?

But I’m not going to fight too much, and you may be right that the bill’s just too tall for a goldfinch.

Lack of an obvious crest isn’t necessarily dispositive:

The crest is mobile. I’m wanting to say erectile but won’t because of Beavis and Butthead. You know who you are.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:31:21am

Is this true? I know it doesn’t mean much, but still interesting.

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lawhawk  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:31:23am

re: #49 Decatur Deb

There was a story about how teens can’t find summer jobs and have become entrepreneurs to get job experience.

The same article (behind a paywall, but it was in the Sunday paper) also mentioned that immigrants were taking the jobs these kids were seeking out. It’s the racism (North Jersey is owned by Gannett, which will soon be a Sinclair outfit). Blame the immigrants for the lack of job opportunities?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:31:36am

re: #59 Belafon

For the first time, betting markets think Elizabeth Warren is the most likely Democratic nominee

Still much too early to look at these figures only in the most general terms

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:32:08am
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Belafon  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:32:42am

re: #63 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Still much too early to look at these figures only in the most general terms

Yeah, but the “Biden is the safe choice” idea needs to die as early as possible.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:33:48am

re: #29 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I would like to see this as a sign that at least some of the religious right is starting to turn on Trump.

Does not mean that they would abandon the GOP for a Democrat, though…

Abortion, homophobia and judges assures that. Best we can hope for is that many will stay home rather than vote for the stubby fingered vulgarian.

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sagehen  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:33:52am

re: #53 Decatur Deb

The assembly line that put me through college had 20,000 workers, most of us union stiffs. Now it has 12,000, half of them code monkeys and such.

en.wikipedia.org

For me, it was typing and/or word processing. My mom had made me take a class in 7th grade, on the grounds that “a girl who can type will never have to wait tables.” Throughout high school and college and for ten more years after, I did temp work — as much or as little as I wanted, any shifts I wanted, for 3x minimum wage.

It’s not even a job anymore; 3rd graders do it. A kid who can’t, that’s about as weird as if he can’t tie his own shoes.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:34:10am

re: #65 Belafon

Yeah, but the “Biden is the safe choice” idea needs to die as early as possible.

This. Biden is a familiar choice. There are no safe choices here.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:34:27am

re: #56 lawhawk

His wife arrived here on a shady visa to take work from American models, towing her communist family behind her. Fuck him and his immigration policies.

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:34:39am

re: #61 I Would Prefer Not To

Is this true? I know it doesn’t mean much, but still interesting.

I doubt it’s true, but you never know. I think, though, it’s supposed to play on the idea that Epstein introduced her to Trump when she was young, possibly too young.

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lawhawk  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:34:49am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:35:06am

re: #68 HappyWarrior

This. Biden is a familiar choice. There are no safe choices here.

Al Gore and John Kerry were safe choices.

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DangerMan  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:35:23am

re: #5 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

reality as the onion, or maybe the other way around

Border chief explains why there have been no ICE raids at Trump properties

he’s my boss fercryinoutloud

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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:36:51am

re: #67 sagehen

For me, it was typing and/or word processing. My mom had made me take a class in 7th grade, on the grounds that “a girl who can type will never have to wait tables.” Throughout high school and college and for ten more years after, I did temp work — as much or as little as I wanted, any shifts I wanted, for 3x minimum wage.

It’s not even a job anymore; 3rd graders do it. A kid who can’t, that’s about as weird as if he can’t tie his own shoes.

Smart mom. At our (all-male) highschool, all of us had to sit at manual Royals, pounding away to the Colonel Bogey March.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:37:44am

re: #71 lawhawk

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He was a disgrace as our AG- Cuccinelli this is.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:38:01am

re: #72 I Would Prefer Not To

Al Gore and John Kerry were safe choices.

Exactly.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:40:46am

re: #66 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Abortion, homophobia and judges assures that. Best we can hope for is that many will stay home rather than vote for the stubby fingered vulgarian.

that is part of their strategy. they know that 90% or more of their 30% of supporters will get out and vote while only around 50% of the remaining electorate will go out and vote…if they can get only 40% of that remaining 70%…

well, the math is confusing, but it was enough to get them a majority in the EC, and that is what matters

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danarchy  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:42:06am

re: #17 Dread Pirate

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If only they hadn’t followed the false prophecy of Donald J Trump.

Three whole phone calls? Why is this even a story?

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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:43:17am

re: #78 danarchy

Three whole phone calls? Why is this even a story?

Man Nibbles Dog.

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DangerMan  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:44:57am

re: #48 DangerMan

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further to this, guess why the factories in mississippi arent worried about having to replace hundreds of workers

No. it’s not because hordes of americans are lined up waiting to do the jobs

it’s that they’ll fill the slots with hundreds more where the original batch came from

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:46:33am

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

The GOP must be destroyed.

It is imperative that come next year, we send the GOP into the electoral wilderness for the next 30 years, at a bare minimum; ideally, for the next 50 years. But that’s going to require getting out there and voting, even in local special elections, even if it’s for the municipal dogcatcher.

That would be nice, but if a Democrat wins the WH in 2020 as I expect, many normal people will think they did their part and sit out the 2022 midterms, allowing the GOP to regain control of Congress.

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DangerMan  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:47:10am

re: #52 Belafon

Thread:

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as you know, we’re in broward county, florida
heard about this race through postcardstovoters.org
and we’ve been writing postcards for dan mccready

probably wouldnt have heard otherwise, till today

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lawhawk  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:47:38am

re: #78 danarchy

Goddamnit, do we have to spell it out for you? //////////////////////////////// <-not enough sarcasm in world.

Seriously, the whole story reeks. The racism didn’t elicit a response. The misogyny didn’t. The attacks on Gold Star parents, attacking asylum seekers, or depriving women and minorities of their rights didn’t. But a handful of these snowflakes were aghast that Trump said god damned?

Yeah, I’m really buying that.

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DangerMan  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:49:37am

re: #58 Belafon

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am i bad that i clicked ahead to the dismount?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:52:42am

re: #62 lawhawk

There was a story about how teens can’t find summer jobs and have become entrepreneurs to get job experience.

The same article (behind a paywall, but it was in the Sunday paper) also mentioned that immigrants were taking the jobs these kids were seeking out. It’s the racism (North Jersey is owned by Gannett, which will soon be a Sinclair outfit). Blame the immigrants for the lack of job opportunities?

I don’t know about anywhere else, but in my town restaurants have constant help wanted signs posted; there is a shortage of low skill workers.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:54:32am

re: #9 Cheechako

Who are they? And how much did they contribute (pay) for the appointment?

Isn’t this pretty standard for both Democrats and Republicans? Ambassadorships are provided to major donors? Of course, in the Trump WH, it might be exclusively to his donors rather than the more generic party donor, but the positions are generally for sale. Expertise in the area is generally not valued.

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danarchy  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:54:32am

re: #85 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I don’t know about anywhere else, but in my town restaurants have constant help wanted signs posted; there is a shortage of low skill workers.

In my experience there is no shortage of low skill workers, especially in high skill jobs…

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:55:27am

re: #64 Belafon

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I think Iowa is going Blue in 2020. The only GOP Congressman who survived the midterms was King by a narrow margin in a deep red district, and Trump’s trade war has been devastating to farmers.

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Chrysicat  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:55:41am
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DangerMan  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:58:30am

re: #66 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Abortion, homophobia and judges assures that. Best we can hope for is that many will stay home rather than vote for the stubby fingered vulgarian.

mrs dm and i were talking yesterday
she’s not a political junkie, just an astute, educated woman
we were talking about that NYT dem/rep predictor test and the political compass

without thinking about it, she said “i can how a person will vote in four questions”

- do you think is climate change real?
- pro choice, pro life?
- more control over guns and owners or leave things as they are?
- gay marriage y/n

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:00:28am

re: #87 danarchy

In my experience there is no shortage of low skill workers, especially in high skill jobs…

Every place around here is hiring, including the high tech companies. They’re openly stealing from each other. Another government contractor raid my company for workers by offering a large pay increase and bonus.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:00:32am

re: #56 lawhawk

Trump is looking to end nonwhite immigration to the US. It’s about stopping nonwhites coming here. It’s the racism and white nationalist/xenophobia. It’s the GOP that is fine with this racism and bigotry. They’re good with all this.

Why?

Because they’re fucking racists and comfortable enabling a racist white supremacist who wants to deny legal immigration to nonwhites.

For those in the cheap seats: Trump wants to stop nonwhites coming here legally. That includes asylum, but it also includes those seeking green cards and ultimately naturalization. He doesn’t want nonwhites here.

It’s the racism. It’s always been the racism.

Hi. Only here for a short time you lucky devils.

There has never been a time in my life when the GOP wasn’t about racism.

As for conservative commentators on Twitter who make the claim “anything liberals don’t like is racist” or “racist has lost its meaning” the point isn’t to get them to change their minds.

Just as in counter-apologetics to religious claims, the point is to address the third person who may not know what it is they’re hearing, to counter that.

Pointing out writer A is spouting racist tropes is to educate others, not the racist. The argument “everything you don’t like is racism” does not actually address the claim, and that can be pointed out.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:00:59am

re: #81 NO SMOCKING GUN!

That would be nice, but if a Democrat wins the WH in 2020 as I expect, many normal people will think they did their part and sit out the 2022 midterms, allowing the GOP to regain control of Congress.

And that has to be prevented.

For the sake of America’s future, it is absolutely necessary that the GOP be reduced to a toothless opposition party.

I think between 30 to 50 years of progressive legislation - as well as the accompanying cultural changes - should be sufficient to break the back of movement conservatism once and for all.

As I recall, prior to the “moral majority” forming up in the 1970s, fundie Christians really weren’t considered a major voting bloc - indeed, many of them actively spurned politics.

We need to get back to that - ideally, we need to so demoralize and discourage social conservatives that they retire from participating in the nation’s political life. Once that’s done - and I do believe it can be done - than America can move forward……and we’ll be better off without them.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:01:55am

re: #91 Belafon

Every place around here is hiring, including the high tech companies. They’re openly stealing from each other. Another government contractor raid my company for workers by offering a large pay increase and bonus.

We don’t have any large businesses here except the ethanol plant in the county seat. Most of the businesses in our county usually have a help wanted sign out at one time or another.

Some might just be looking for anyone at any time who would be an asset to the business, but most are short-handed.

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:02:52am

re: #93 Dr Lizardo

And that has to be prevented.

For the sake of America’s future, it is absolutely necessary that the GOP be reduced to a toothless opposition party.

I think between 30 to 50 years of progressive legislation - as well as the accompanying cultural changes - should be sufficient to break the back of movement conservatism once and for all.

As I recall, prior to the “moral majority” forming up in the 1970s, fundie Christians really weren’t considered a major voting bloc - indeed, many of them actively spurned politics.

We need to get back to that - ideally, we need to so demoralize and discourage social conservatives that they retire from participating in the nation’s political life. Once that’s done - and I do believe it can be done - than America can move forward……and we’ll be better off without them.

Those postcards people are sending out to remind people to vote, the 2022 ones need to talk about what happens if they don’t vote in midterms. I know they can’t be too long, but just a “If you want to keep making progress, you have to keep voting” type message.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:04:21am

re: #93 Dr Lizardo

And that has to be prevented.

For the sake of America’s future, it is absolutely necessary that the GOP be reduced to a toothless opposition party.

I think between 30 to 50 years of progressive legislation - as well as the accompanying cultural changes - should be sufficient to break the back of movement conservatism once and for all.

As I recall, prior to the “moral majority” forming up in the 1970s, fundie Christians really weren’t considered a major voting bloc - indeed, many of them actively spurned politics.

We need to get back to that - ideally, we need to so demoralize and discourage social conservatives that they retire from participating in the nation’s political life. Once that’s done - and I do believe it can be done - than America can move forward……and we’ll be better off without them.

I wish I knew the magic trick to do that. There is a massive rightwing edifice, including their churches, dedicated to keeping them angry and afraid so they’ll turn out and vote GOP.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:05:57am

re: #95 Belafon

Those postcards people are sending out to remind people to vote, the 2022 ones need to talk about what happens if they don’t vote in midterms. I know they can’t be too long, but just a “If you want to keep making progress, you have to keep voting” type message.

Exactly.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:07:21am

re: #95 Belafon

Those postcards people are sending out to remind people to vote, the 2022 ones need to talk about what happens if they don’t vote in midterms. I know they can’t be too long, but just a “If you want to keep making progress, you have to keep voting” type message.

From 2014:

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:07:40am

re: #97 Dr Lizardo

Exactly.

Indeed. I expect if we win in 2020, the GOP will make gains in 2022 but we can limit them.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:08:08am

re: #98 The Pie Overlord!

From 2014:

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It’s truer now than ever.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:08:16am

re: #96 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I wish I knew the magic trick to do that. There is a massive rightwing edifice, including their churches, dedicated to keeping them angry and afraid so they’ll turn out and vote GOP.

One method is to keep others from falling into the religion trap (counter-apologetics).

All church denominations are shrinking in membership. They poach more from each other than converting non-Christians.

It is noteworthy when you enter a discussion with a religious missionary with a simple “prove it” they block you.

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:08:21am

re: #98 The Pie Overlord!

From 2014:

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Here’s to believing that 2022 will be different.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:09:58am

re: #102 Belafon

Here’s to believing that 2022 will be different.

Getting the vast block of “both sides are just the same so why bother voting” bloc off their butts and showing them that is a longtime lie pushed by the GOP is one way.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:10:32am

re: #99 HappyWarrior

Indeed. I expect if we win in 2020, the GOP will make gains in 2022 but we can limit them.

I agree; we can limit them. One of the most important things needs to be a focus on turning Texas blue. If that can be accomplished, and I’m confident it can be, the GOP will no longer be a nationally competitive party.

Flipping Texas will break the GOP’s back.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:10:35am

The Crokin has spoken.

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lawhawk  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:11:19am

re: #98 The Pie Overlord!

Except the GOP doesn’t need to vote. The can deprive Democrats and their allies their rights and access to vote, and it does the same thing.

Right wingers suppress turnout, engage in election fraud (see the NC district where the outcome was actually stolen), and they have a base that will turn out even as it gets smaller and smaller and more white (and male) with every passing election.

Democrats need to treat every election as though it is the most important, because it is.

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DangerMan  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:12:07am

re: #95 Belafon

Those postcards people are sending out to remind people to vote, the 2022 ones need to talk about what happens if they don’t vote in midterms. I know they can’t be too long, but just a “If you want to keep making progress, you have to keep voting” type message.

after the ‘approved’ two or three lines, you can add an optional, personal comment as long as it’s kind of generic.

things like
- The outcome of this election will be decided by voters like you.
- These days, every election needs committed voters like you.
etc

my two faves
- your vote = your voice
- when democrats vote, democrats win

i could easily add “vote in every election” to those two

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:15:04am

re: #85 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I don’t know about anywhere else, but in my town restaurants have constant help wanted signs posted; there is a shortage of low skill workers.

Same here. Local Dairy Queen has been closing on Mondays for lack of workers. Another local restaurant closed down stating because lack of workers. Signs are everywhere looking for workers. Not the greatest of jobs, but if you have nothing …

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DangerMan  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:16:17am

re: #95 Belafon

Those postcards people are sending out to remind people to vote, the 2022 ones need to talk about what happens if they don’t vote in midterms. I know they can’t be too long, but just a “If you want to keep making progress, you have to keep voting” type message.

we recently did this:

One year ago, we tested a new postcard-writing campaign to encourage registered Democrats in 5 Florida counties to enroll in their Vote By Mail program. Once enrolled, they would receive a ballot in the mail for every single election for which they were eligible to vote. For four years!

Plenty of evidence shows that voters who are mailed ballots are much more likely to participate than those who aren’t mailed ballots. So, we conducted a pilot effort and measured the results. The findings were overwhelmingly convincing

i sent in a suggest that in down times like this - when there are few elections going on, is a good time to send out other kinds of generic messages.

an important one is that everyone must learn to check their registration in advance of every election to correct any errors or if they’ve been purged for whatever reason, to re-register. we’ll see where it goes.

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DangerMan  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:17:53am

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Getting the vast block of “both sides are just the same so why bother voting” bloc off their butts and showing them that is a longtime lie pushed by the GOP is one way.

in a nutshell:
D’s believe in liberty, and justice for all
R’s believe in liberty, and justice for some

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:18:09am

Off-topic: Yay, my wife is making a huge pile of bacon.

That smells so much better than patchouli.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:21:41am

Yep, the Russians went there.
U.S. Officials Suspect New Nuclear Missile in Explosion That Killed 7 Russians

Russia’s New Nuclear Missiles Squeeze Response Time

Russia’s New Nukes Are Similar to a Risky Project the U.S. Abandoned

The U.S. Air Force’s Project Pluto sought to create nuclear-powered cruise missiles, but was terminated decades ago after second thoughts over the dangers

Scientific American spoke with Edwin Lyman, a senior scientist in the Union of Concerned Scientists’ Global Security Program, about the eerie parallels between Putin’s nuclear-powered missile and Project Pluto—including the Pentagon’s reasons for ending the project, and the lessons about the dangers of nuclear power and weaponry that seem to have been forgotten.

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retired cynic  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:22:12am

re: #72 I Would Prefer Not To

Al Gore and John Kerry were safe choices.

And it may be CT, but I think both of them won, except for Republican hacking.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:24:20am

re: #105 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The Crokin has spoken.

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Commit thy self.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:24:58am

re: #113 retired cynic

And it may be CT, but I think both of them won, except for Republican hacking.

Gore definitely did. I’m not sure about Kerry.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:31:02am

re: #56 lawhawk

Trump is looking to end nonwhite immigration to the US. It’s about stopping nonwhites coming here. It’s the racism and white nationalist/xenophobia. It’s the GOP that is fine with this racism and bigotry. They’re good with all this.

Why?

Because they’re fucking racists and comfortable enabling a racist white supremacist who wants to deny legal immigration to nonwhites.

For those in the cheap seats: Trump wants to stop nonwhites coming here legally. That includes asylum, but it also includes those seeking green cards and ultimately naturalization. He doesn’t want nonwhites here.

It’s the racism. It’s always been the racism.

And here I thought they were only against illegal immigration.

//

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:31:54am

re: #105 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Another self-own then; laughable failure.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:33:13am

re: #26 Belafon

From the previous thread:

Thanks. One of the things I couldn’t figure out was how wide the rim needed to be in order to match that tire width.

No worries. I forgot to mention that you’re also gonna need to get a new skewer because the old one was almost certainly stolen with the wheel. There are two schools of thought here, if you get a quick release skewer then your son should be in the habit of removing the front wheel and locking it through the back wheel and frame to the bike rack every time. I’ve always used non QR skewers on the theory that thieves are lazy and generally don’t carry around Allen wrenches, but that can be a risky bet.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:34:08am

re: #109 DangerMan

we recently did this:

i sent in a suggest that in down times like this - when there are few elections going on, is a good time to send out other kinds of generic messages.

an important one is that everyone must learn to check their registration in advance of every election to correct any errors or if they’ve been purged for whatever reason, to re-register. we’ll see where it goes.

When we get a little closer to the election here I’ll participate in the programme.

All rural ballots in Nebraska are by mail (there are no polling places; they were closed in 2000 to save money). In the three largest cities mail balloting is optional but you do not need a reason to request one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:37:03am

re: #110 DangerMan

in a nutshell:
D’s believe in liberty, and justice for all
R’s believe in liberty, and justice for some

liberty and justice for those they think deserve it

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lawhawk  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:37:49am

re: #112 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The Russians have a history of this kind of thing. Pursue the biggest, baddest weapon or tech system imaginable, and ignore the consequences should things go wrong or have inadequate safety measures in place for known risks.

Things that come to mind: the N-1 disaster. Nedelin catastrophe. Chernobyl. Any number of Soviet nuclear submarine disasters.

Not a thought was given to what might happen if the nuclear engine failed or it crashed into friendly territory.

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retired cynic  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:40:00am

re: #115 HappyWarrior

Gore definitely did. I’m not sure about Kerry.

I think the vote in Ohio was hacked.

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sagehen  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:40:02am

re: #115 HappyWarrior

Gore definitely did. I’m not sure about Kerry.

Ohio was a clusterfuck that year; Ken Blackwell was the secretary of state (and also Bush/Cheney state chair) responsible for purging voter rolls, not enough machines in the big cities… there were people still in line 7 hours after the polls closed because things weren’t moving. They kept enough Dems from voting that final tally of votes that were cast was probably legitimate.

D’s in Congress did a whole day of outraged floor speeches about it the week the electoral college was tabulated/certified.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:42:16am

re: #122 retired cynic

I think the vote in Ohio was hacked.

The Head of Diebold Systems told the GOP that he was going to help deliver Ohio to their party…and that did not set off any alarms.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:46:44am

re: #105 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The Crokin has spoken.

Because police always allow people to murder someone so they can catch them in a conspiracy. That makes perfect sense. If you’re a wingnut.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:48:42am

re: #121 lawhawk

The Russians have a history of this kind of thing. Pursue the biggest, baddest weapon or tech system imaginable, and ignore the consequences should things go wrong or have inadequate safety measures in place for known risks.

Things that come to mind: the N-1 disaster. Nedelin catastrophe. Chernobyl. Any number of Soviet nuclear submarine disasters.

Not a thought was given to what might happen if the nuclear engine failed or it crashed into friendly territory.

One of the things that killed Pluto was the lack of any safe way to test it. One crack-brained proposal was to tether it to a central pylon with several kilometers of cable, and fly it in circles out in the Nevada desert. That was rejected because no cable of the sufficient strength was available. Even if there had been, planners did not want to think about the cable parting and sending the nuclear powered Pluto cruising off to Las Vegas or Salt Lake City or somewhere.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:51:47am

re: #121 lawhawk

The Russians have a history of this kind of thing. Pursue the biggest, baddest weapon or tech system imaginable, and ignore the consequences should things go wrong or have inadequate safety measures in place for known risks.

Things that come to mind: the N-1 disaster. Nedelin catastrophe. Chernobyl. Any number of Soviet nuclear submarine disasters.

Not a thought was given to what might happen if the nuclear engine failed or it crashed into friendly territory.

I’ve never heard of the N-1 disaster, so I looked it up. It is considered the third-worst disaster, after Fukushima Daichii and Chernobyl.

en.wikipedia.org

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:52:06am

If Warren does become the nominee, I hope y’all are ready for months and months of Pocahontas jokes from the RWNJs.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:54:06am

re: #119 Anymouse 🌹🎃

When we get a little closer to the election here I’ll participate in the programme.

All rural ballots in Nebraska are by mail (there are no polling places; they were closed in 2000 to save money). In the three largest cities mail balloting is optional but you do not need a reason to request one.

My concern about VBM is that there is no guarantee that the votes are legitimate. During the 2008 election, we reflected our mother’s intention when she voted but, given her dementia and vision limitations, she was unable to verify that we reflected her actual wishes (We did make every legitimate effort to persuade her to vote for Obama rather than McCain). My cousin who voted on behalf of his mother with Alzheimer’s voted his wishes, not hers.

But it’s not just elderly whose votes can be stolen — VBM eliminates privacy at least among family members. A domineering husband can vote on behalf of his spouse; parents can vote on behalf of their children; a third party can intercept a ballot and vote on behalf of a stranger. There is no voter id required.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:54:38am

re: #128 Eclectic Cyborg

If Warren does become the nominee, I hope y’all are ready for months and months of Pocahontas jokes from the RWNJs.

We’re going get stupid crap regardless of who the nominee is.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:55:11am

re: #130 HappyWarrior

We’re going get stupid crap regardless of who the nominee is.

Of course. I just think it’ll be particularly acute if it’s her.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:55:29am

Bacon and eggs are up. Catch y’all later.

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:57:46am

re: #131 Eclectic Cyborg

Of course. I just think it’ll be particularly acute if it’s her.

Warren - Pocahontas
Harris - Slept her way into power
Beto - Robert Frances, trying to hide his lineage
Biden - Sloppy Joe
Sanders - Communist
Pete - Butt jokes

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lawhawk  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:58:02am
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lawhawk  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:58:31am

re: #133 Belafon

Trump: The KKK’s choice for a white power generation.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:07:59am

re: #131 Eclectic Cyborg

Of course. I just think it’ll be particularly acute if it’s her.

You really underestimate the power of the Russians, the RW disinformation machine, and the fury of the BernieBros when their favored candidate is not selected. It doesn’t matter who the candidate is — any legitimate candidate will be torn to pieces by these unprincipled vultures.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:09:06am

re: #129 Hecuba’s daughter

My concern about VBM is that there is no guarantee that the votes are legitimate. During the 2008 election, we reflected our mother’s intention when she voted but, given her dementia and vision limitations, she was unable to verify that we reflected her actual wishes (We did make every legitimate effort to persuade her to vote for Obama rather than McCain). My cousin who voted on behalf of his mother with Alzheimer’s voted his wishes, not hers.

But it’s not just elderly whose votes can be stolen — VBM eliminates privacy at least among family members. A domineering husband can vote on behalf of his spouse; parents can vote on behalf of their children; a third party can intercept a ballot and vote on behalf of a stranger. There is no voter id required.

There is no system which is perfect. Perfect is the enemy of good; because a small group might steal ballots or dominate a voter is not a reason to get rid of the whole system.

Vote-by-mail states like Oregon or Nebraska have very high voter turnouts. The higher the turn-out the harder it is to flip an election one ballot at a time through crime.

A domineering husband can do the same with in-person voting, or just prevent his wife from voting at all.

Third-parties intercepting ballots is exactly what happened in NC-9, and those folks are going to jail.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:10:13am

re: #128 Eclectic Cyborg

If Warren does become the nominee, I hope y’all are ready for months and months of Pocahontas jokes from the RWNJs.

Here is the debate if Warren is the nominee:

WARREN: Talks about her Plan

TRUMP: Whispers under his breath but loud enough for everyone to hear: “Pocahontas! Pocahontas!”

WARREN: Talks about her Plan

TRUMP: Poca-poca-hontas-hontas. (Gets up from his seat, does a “war dance”) Woo-woo-woo-woo! Woo-woo-woo-woo!

WARREN: Talks about her Plan, gives Trump evil eyes.

TRUMP: OOOH she’s on the warpath! She wants to scalp me! (Resumes his “war dance” while yodeling a “war whoop”)

MODERATOR: Mr. President please take your seat. It is not your turn to speak!

TRUMP: CAN’T YOU SEE SHE WANTS TO SCALP ME!!!!

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lawhawk  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:17:42am
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Dr. Matt  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:19:39am

Today is the 2 year anniversary of the right-wing murder of Heather Heyer. :(

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:20:16am

re: #139 lawhawk

the ultimate parody of what the Right thinks the Left wants

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:20:19am

Again, the Russians are apparently not just willing to think about nuclear aerospace propulsion but to build actual hardware.
The possibilities here are mind-boggling, and were seriously pursued in the west long, long ago. All you need is information control to prevent or at least mitigate the ungodly public uproar that would result. Putin has that, and not just in his own empire.

Project Orion.Old Bang-Bang, the famous nuclear bomb driven spaceship. Carl Sagan observed that Orion was the only potential interstellar system we could actually build with existing technology, though the interstellar version would require 3 million bombs and building it would absorb a major portion of the world’s economic capacity for 50 years.

Project Orion: The Spaceship Propelled By Nuclear Bombs

NERVA is a less crazy idea, involving the use of a reactor to heat a reaction mass for a super high impulse rocket. It was successfully tested at Jackass Flats (Pluto’s test area) in the 1960s and would have been an integral component of NASA’s Apollo follow-on program, including a flight to Mars in 1978.

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Chrysicat  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:21:17am

re: #105 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The Crokin has spoken.

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How fitting is it that one of the only major females still allowed to speak in a culture known for semi-deifying cartoon frogs is named “Crokin”, anyway?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:21:54am

re: #138 The Pie Overlord!

Who’d want that dead opossum on his head as a scalp? /s

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Dr. Matt  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:22:27am

re: #139 lawhawk

Everything in that pic is G-rated compared to their porn star fucking, pussy grabbing, thrice-married, Nazi-loving Dear Leader.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:22:31am

re: #139 lawhawk

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“Buds, Bongs, and Beyond” sounds like a damn good marketing idea. I wonder if it’s trademarked.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:22:51am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:22:56am

re: #121 lawhawk

Not a thought was given to what might happen if the nuclear engine failed or it crashed into friendly territory.

Not sure I would totally agree with this premise. They leaders think about all the bad things that can happen, the engineers and scientists probably make some noise about possible shortcomings; the leader-bots think, “who gives a fuck? People are replaceable” This is a very Russian thinking pattern. Read Solzhenitsyn or any Russian lit, look at how soldiers were treated in wars, etc. The Russian polity cares nothing for the peasant.

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DangerMan  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:25:12am

thegreatpoolpondconversion - 190811 edition ———————->

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:27:12am

re: #139 lawhawk

That calls for re-upping an old gem:

Planned Parenthood Opens $8 Billion Abortionplex (The Onion)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:27:50am

re: #150 Anymouse 🌹🎃

That calls for re-upping an old gem:

Planned Parenthood Opens $8 Billion Abortionplex (The Onion)

And this really did have a GOP legislator taking it seriously and throwing a complete apoplectic fit over it

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sagehen  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:28:33am

re: #148 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Not sure I would totally agree with this premise. They leaders think about all the bad things that can happen, the engineers and scientists probably make some noise about possible shortcomings; the leader-bots think, “who gives a fuck? People are replaceable” This is a very Russian thinking pattern. Read Solzhenitsyn or any Russian or lit, look at how soldiers were treated in wars, etc. The Russian polity cares nothing for the peasant.

Before the Trinity test, there was some concern within the project leadership that they might set off a chain reaction in the atmosphere, and burn off all the air for the whole planet.

They decided to do it anyway.

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DangerMan  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:28:59am

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Bacon and eggs are up. Catch y’all later.

pix or it didnt happen

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Dr. Matt  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:29:14am

Iraqi Chaldeans supported Trump. Now one of their own died after being deported

For many in Detroit’s Iraqi Chaldean Catholic community, the election of President Trump appeared a positive development. They envisioned a bright future with an administration led by a man who had advocated strongly on behalf of Christian minorities in majority-Muslim countries.

“Christians in the Middle-East have been executed in large numbers,” Trump tweeted in 2017. “We cannot allow this horror to continue!”

A few months into his presidency, however, scores of Iraqi immigrants were swept up in immigration enforcement raids for overstaying visas or criminal convictions. Many are Christians who fled their war-torn homeland, some when they were children decades ago.

Reminder: Michigan just barely went to Donnie.

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lawhawk  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:31:04am

re: #146 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

It’s a damned sight better than Walmart’s alter-ego: blood bath and beyond.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:31:24am

re: #152 sagehen

Before the Trinity test, there was some concern within the project leadership that they might set off a chain reaction in the atmosphere, and burn off all the air for the whole planet.

They decided to do it anyway.

And even after science showed how the outcome of a nuclear winter meant that neither side could sin a nuclear exchange, there was no major push for disarmament…

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DangerMan  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:32:12am

re: #138 The Pie Overlord!

Here is the debate if Warren is the nominee:

WARREN: Talks about her Plan

TRUMP: Whispers under his breath but loud enough for everyone to hear: “Pocahontas! Pocahontas!”

WARREN: Talks about her Plan

TRUMP: Poca-poca-hontas-hontas. (Gets up from his seat, does a “war dance”) Woo-woo-woo-woo! Woo-woo-woo-woo!

WARREN: Talks about her Plan, gives Trump evil eyes.

TRUMP: OOOH she’s on the warpath! She wants to scalp me! (Resumes his “war dance” while yodeling a “war whoop”)

MODERATOR: Mr. President please take your seat. It is not your turn to speak!

TRUMP: CAN’T YOU SEE SHE WANTS TO SCALP ME!!!!

WARREN: Stops talking, stares down Trump and says “Adults are talking, sit down and please use your inside voice.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:33:49am

re: #147 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

See also “ping pong ball sized hail.”

The same people claiming they can’t visualise a metre also use yards. They can’t seem to visualise a very rough estimate of 1 metre=1 yard.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:34:41am

re: #157 DangerMan

WARREN: Stops talking, stares down Trump and says “Adults are talking, sit down and please use your inside voice.”

Response: “Warren is an arrogant elitist who talks down to the Smartest Man in Politics!!!”

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:35:35am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:35:35am

Also: This area is the size of X Rhode Islands.

I don’t know how big Rhode Island is, so visualising Rhode Islands doesn’t mean much.

I can visualise X square miles or Y square kilometres.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:35:56am

re: #138 The Pie Overlord!

TRUMP: CAN’T YOU SEE SHE WANTS TO SCALP ME!!!!

there’s nothing there worth scalping

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William Lewis  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:36:07am

re: #128 Eclectic Cyborg

If Warren does become the nominee, I hope y’all are ready for months and months of Pocahontas jokes from the RWNJs.

Reply “Better than Broke-ahontas” every time.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:36:56am
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Chrysicat  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:37:08am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:40:33am

re: #164 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

And this is only a matter of time (posted one minute ago):

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sagehen  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:41:29am

re: #161 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Also: This area is the size of X Rhode Islands.

I don’t know how big Rhode Island is, so visualising Rhode Islands doesn’t mean much.

I can visualise X square miles or Y square kilometres.

640 acres is a square mile.

840 acres is Central Park.

23 square miles is Manhattan

I’ve also seen disappearing Louisiana wetlands or Amazon rainforest measured in how many football fields per day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:42:14am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:42:55am

re: #167 sagehen

640 acres is a square mile.

840 acres is Central Park.

23 square miles is Manhattan

I’ve also seen disappearing Louisiana wetlands or Amazon rainforest measured in how many football fields per day.

NFL or CFL football fields? So many questions.

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Chrysicat  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:43:32am

Also, can somone please tell me what in my response-tweet about Trump stripping legal residency even from Marketplace insurance buyers would have led a FUCKING MAGAT to put a ‘like’ on it? (Seriously, go look at the interaction list!)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:44:41am

I’m trying to gin up some way the Dems could spin the real Pocahontas’s biography to cause the GOP slur to backfire.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:44:42am

The Mooch is upset

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:45:47am

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Mooch is upset

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Poor snowflake.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:45:50am

Sometimes Twitter is fun to read.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:47:22am

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Mooch is upset

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All of these conservative christians would sit and agree with him, but bring up the parable of the Good Samaritan and they think it applies to them- they just don’t realize they are the Levite in the story.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:48:36am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹🎃

And this is only a matter of time (posted one minute ago):

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Back in the 70s and 80s, there were a number of fatalities involving similar challenges with surplus Vietnam era flak jackets (which are NOT bullet proof), so many in fact that surplus dealers quit selling them.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:48:59am

re: #175 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Haven’t seen you around in a while. Hi!

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:50:15am

Sum sum summertime is sometimes busier for us Football Coaches. Today is kind of a partial school day, and got some work done. I’ve been lurking, but usually I’ve been a thread or two behind all of you.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:51:16am
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BlueGrl21  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:53:45am

In today’s edition of, “People Are Shitheads…”

I have a friend who is a manager at a Wal-Mart here in Houston. Last night, some asshole kids snuck in fireworks and set them off.

As you can imagine, it caused some panic.

Once he got things under control with security and Houston police he came home for a bit and broke down. Then collected himself and went back to work.

Assholes.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:53:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:54:27am

JFC

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:54:55am

re: #180 BlueGrl21

In today’s edition of, “People Are Shitheads…”

I have a friend who is a manager at a Wal-Mart here in Houston. Last night, some asshole kids snuck in fireworks and set them off.

As you can imagine, it caused some panic.

Once he got things under control with security and Houston police he came home for a bit and broke down. Then collected himself and went back to work.

Assholes.

Charge them with inciting a riot.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:55:09am

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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Oh fuck you very much Bill.

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lawhawk  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:55:09am

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Is that like cubits?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:57:59am

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

When conservatives are faced with a choice between electoral loss or ditching democracy, they will ditch democracy every time.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:58:40am

re: #185 lawhawk

Is that like cubits?

Cubits are used to measure arks.

I suppose they could have measured the hole in arks.

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William Lewis  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:59:47am

re: #180 BlueGrl21

In today’s edition of, “People Are Shitheads…”

I have a friend who is a manager at a Wal-Mart here in Houston. Last night, some asshole kids snuck in fireworks and set them off.

As you can imagine, it caused some panic.

Once he got things under control with security and Houston police he came home for a bit and broke down. Then collected himself and went back to work.

Assholes.

Was anyone injured? If so, this is what they could be charged with in Wisconsin:

940.23  Reckless injury.
(1)  First-degree reckless injury.
(a) Whoever recklessly causes great bodily harm to another human being under circumstances which show utter disregard for human life is guilty of a Class D felony.

as just one way of dealing with the shitbirds.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:59:56am

re: #185 lawhawk

Is that like cubits?

how fast is that in furlongs per fortnight?

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gocart mozart  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:02:54am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:04:52am

re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

how fast is that in furlongs per fortnight?

When my wife worked at Digital Equipment, she and another engineer were dealing with a piece of equipment, where the manual actually said some setting was to be set in furlongs per micro-fortnight.

The actual conversion factor is 1mph=0.0003720237562634 furlongs per fortnight.

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Citizen K  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:05:19am

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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They’re not going to stop until they make their police state a grand reality.

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Chrysicat  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:06:01am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:08:38am

re: #191 Anymouse 🌹🎃

When my wife worked at Digital Equipment, she and another engineer were dealing with a piece of equipment, where the manual actually said some setting was to be set in furlongs per micro-fortnight.

The actual conversion factor is 1mph=0.0003720237562634 furlongs per fortnight.

one thing that Europeans do that still drives me dippy is to measure gasoline consumption (can’t call it mileage as they don’t use miles) in liters per 100 km.

Our Smart used to use 3.4 liters.

My current Citroen uses more than twice that but seats five people and has room to transport things like bicycles, washing machines and multiple musical instruments.

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lawhawk  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:09:23am

re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Eddie Furlong? The fortnight at Wimbledon? That’s like asking how fast you did the Kessel run and you get a distance instead (and yeah, I know that has been resolved as a time and space problem).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:11:33am

re: #195 lawhawk

Eddie Furlong? The fortnight at Wimbledon? That’s like asking how fast you did the Kessel run and you get a distance instead (and yeah, I know that has been resolved as a time and space problem).

Yes, but it took light-years to solve…

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lawhawk  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:11:36am

re: #190 gocart mozart

And the NYCHA - largest in the nation - has huge problems of its own. This past year, nearly 80% of housing tenants suffered from a hot water or heat disruption.

DeBlasio still thinks he should be running for the WH, but in reality, he’s running away from the mess that he hasn’t bothered to address back home.

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Chrysicat  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:11:57am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

one thing that Europeans do that still drives me dippy is to measure gasoline consumption (can’t call it mileage as they don’t use miles) in liters per 100 km.

Our Smart used to use 3.4 liters.

My current Citroen uses more than twice that but seats five people and has room to transport things like bicycles, washing machines and multiple musical instruments.

That is indeed the most ridiculous thing about SI. It would seem to make it a whole lot harder to calculate a prospective range from the remaining quantity in your tank when fuel economy is measured by how much it takes to drive for nearly one and a third hours.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:12:02am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

one thing that Europeans do that still drives me dippy is to measure gasoline consumption (can’t call it mileage as they don’t use miles) in liters per 100 km.

Our Smart used to use 3.4 liters.

My current Citroen uses more than twice that but seats five people and has room to transport things like bicycles, washing machines and multiple musical instruments.

They do the same in Canada.

When in Saskatchewan, I sometimes get questions such as “what’s the fuel economy of that thing” and I’ll respond with something like “eighty kilometres for four litres” or “twenty kilometres per litre.” That gets quizzical looks and “what’s that in litres per hundred kilometres?”

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:17:02am

re: #199 Anymouse 🌹🎃

They do the same in Canada.

When in Saskatchewan, I sometimes get questions such as “what’s the fuel economy of that thing” and I’ll respond with something like “eighty kilometres for four litres” or “twenty kilometres per litre.” That gets quizzical looks and “what’s that in litres per hundred kilometres?”

My MKC has a setting to change the display from miles/gallons to kilometres/litres which is very handy on my frequent visits to Canada.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:17:27am

re: #28 jeffreyw

Female cardinal

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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:17:45am

re: #199 Anymouse 🌹🎃

They do the same in Canada.

When in Saskatchewan, I sometimes get questions such as “what’s the fuel economy of that thing” and I’ll respond with something like “eighty kilometres for four litres” or “twenty kilometres per litre.” That gets quizzical looks and “what’s that in litres per hundred kilometres?”

My old Rover has two 10 imperial gallon tanks. You get better mileage from imperial gallons.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:21:05am

Gun laws don’t work, part eleventy million:

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gocart mozart  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:21:10am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:21:32am

re: #202 Decatur Deb

My old Rover has two 10 imperial gallon tanks. You get better mileage from imperial gallons.

Because of the built in gratuity by paying in guineas vs. pounds?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:22:54am

re: #200 The Pie Overlord!

My MKC has a setting to change the display from miles/gallons to kilometres/litres which is very handy on my frequent visits to Canada.

I can’t change my speedometer display. Miles per hour and miles travelled only (it doesn’t even have a kilometres scale on an analogue speedometer). Temperatures in Fahrenheit only. It doesn’t display fuel economy.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:23:04am

re: #205 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Because of the built in gratuity by paying in guineas vs. pounds?

That, and England is mostly downhill.

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Chrysicat  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:24:37am

re: #200 The Pie Overlord!

My MKC has a setting to change the display from miles/gallons to kilometres/litres which is very handy on my frequent visits to Canada.

If that’s really the way the display goes, they’ll still have bemused-to-angry customers in SI-compliant countries. That’s precisely what the Canadians were still drawing a blank about in ‘Mouse’s story; they can’t calculate a competitive fuel-economy figure from it in under a minute any more than I can calculate a prospective range for a car that instead displays burn-rate with anything short of at least a piece of paper and preferably a calculator.

I still say a way that lets you get range with a simple division rather than having to run 4 separate expressions to calculate makes more sense for anything other than someone trying to stress the environmental benefits of one model over another with the smallest numbers possible.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:25:35am

re: #207 Decatur Deb

That, and England is mostly downhill.

Both directions.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:28:45am

re: #199 Anymouse 🌹🎃

They do the same in Canada.

When in Saskatchewan, I sometimes get questions such as “what’s the fuel economy of that thing” and I’ll respond with something like “eighty kilometres for four litres” or “twenty kilometres per litre.” That gets quizzical looks and “what’s that in litres per hundred kilometres?”

I’m no math whiz, but wouldn’t the answer be 5 litres?

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Chrysicat  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:30:29am

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m no math whiz, but wouldn’t the answer be 5 litres?

I think you’re right. I also think if that’s true, then there must be something very wrong, because IIRC, the vehicle being talked about at that time would be a Smart very like the one that Wendell recently ditched that managed 3.4 in the EU.

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jaunte  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:33:02am

Conservative pro-life politics at work:

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Chrysicat  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:33:29am

re: #211 Chrysicat

Gah! Obviously the original post was still tied to the wrong quote!

Would be so nice if the old one didn’t auto-populate back into the drafting box at the bottom after the comment it was tacked onto was sent.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:33:44am

re: #202 Decatur Deb

My old Rover has two 10 imperial gallon tanks. You get better mileage from imperial gallons.

and the Imperial Minute is 62.5 seconds, which explains why those bastards are always so far behind the times

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:34:40am

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m no math whiz, but wouldn’t the answer be 5 litres?

Yes. It’s amazing how many people who use a system based on counting by tens can’t come up with that answer.

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:36:21am

re: #191 Anymouse 🌹🎃

When my wife worked at Digital Equipment, she and another engineer were dealing with a piece of equipment, where the manual actually said some setting was to be set in furlongs per micro-fortnight.

The actual conversion factor is 1mph=0.0003720237562634 furlongs per fortnight.

Your constant is inverted. 1 fpf = .0003732 mph <==> 1 mph = 2687.995 fpf. You can ask google to do that conversion.

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gocart mozart  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:36:27am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:36:31am

re: #211 Chrysicat

I think you’re right. I also think if that’s true, then there must be something very wrong, because IIRC, the vehicle being talked about at that time would be a Smart very like the one that Wendell recently ditched that managed 3.4 in the EU.

I get about 50 mpg in my Smart. (I assume that’s due to very little city driving, so not much in the way of idling at traffic lights, since the nearest traffic light is sixty miles away).

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:37:44am

re: #216 Belafon

Your constant is inverted. 1 fpf = .0003732 mph <==> 1 mph = 2687.995 fpf. You can ask google to do that conversion.

Correct, I got it backwards (and I did use a search engine for that).

I think my conversion is somewhere beyond the speed of light.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:38:21am

re: #212 jaunte

If mah kids gets a vaccine to prevent an STD, she’s gonna have sex.

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jaunte  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:38:53am

re: #220 Colère Tueur de Lapin

That’s about the size of it.
400+ deaths a year later.

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:40:42am

re: #221 jaunte

That’s about the size of it.
400+ deaths a year later.

That was one of those where Perry did the right thing for the wrong reasons and has basically ensure that requiring the right thing is an intrusion on the right of a parent to doom their children to a painful death.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:43:12am

re: #221 jaunte

Don’t forget it also causes penile cancer.

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Chrysicat  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:43:17am

re: #215 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Yes. It’s amazing how many people who use a system based on counting by tens can’t come up with that answer.

Or IOW, another argument against “just SI”. You can basically only make sense of things in the format you’re used to, because something as simple as inverting a fifth is something you’ve not done since Grade 9 or 10 and even then likely not even outside of math class.

The particular ‘fun’ of it is that besides South Africa, no country on earth de-metricated any more recently than Canada (it was in my lifetime, because the Gimli Glider got screwed up because Air Canada’s major procedural manuals were still reading in imperial units!).

So I hope for their sake that these people were under 35.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:43:38am

re: #220 Colère Tueur de Lapin

If mah kids gets a vaccine to prevent an STD, she’s gonna have sex.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:44:26am

This is so irritating — the continued promoting of the “reasonable” Republicans who remain nameless and hidden, but doing the right thing. Please — I am so tired of this nonsense. The GOP is actively promoting climate change denial — the few little pieces of legislation that they allowed to pass does not mitigate their actions that are designed to damage the planet. No different than those columns claiming that there are administration officials secretly working to protect this country.

Bill Barr is the true face of the administration — someone who cares only about his party and wealthy donors with no concern about our nation or the future of this planet. This is your Republican Party today

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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:44:30am

re: #220 Colère Tueur de Lapin

If mah kids gets an vaccine to prevent an STD, she’s gonna have sex.

(IIRC, it was to be provided to boys as well, to interrupt xmit.)

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gocart mozart  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:44:50am
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Nyet  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:45:00am

Hi everybody! (c)

Just dropping by to share some interesting news - we’ve been able to find and authenticate a wartime copy of the so-called Franke-Gricksch report, the only Nazi document of its kind - it explicitly and non-euphemistically describes the mass murder of Jews in the crematoria of Auschwitz. Previously only a crude postwar typed copy was available (so most historians didn’t take it seriously, not to mention Holocaust deniers). It also mentions the infamous Führer’s order.

We have now published an original wartime carbon copy from the Bundesarchiv:

Nazi Document on Mass Extermination of Jews in Auschwitz-Birkenau: The Franke-Gricksch Report

holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:46:15am

re: #225 Anymouse 🌹🎃

All the GOP has left is to market fear to its supporters. They’re intellectually bankrupt.

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:46:26am

re: #227 Decatur Deb

(IIRC, it was to be provided to boys as well, to interrupt xmit.)

That came a little bit later. When it first started being available here in Texas, we started asking about it being used for boys. Our pediatrician at the time wouldn’t even discuss it, so we switched pediatricians.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:46:43am

re: #224 Chrysicat

On people not being able to think in any system other than that with which they grew up:

After Canada went metric in the Seventies, they put up signs near US ports-of-entry which read “Maximum 100 = 60mph.”

On our recent trip to Massachusetts, they had a new such sign on the QEW just after the port-of-entry from New York. It’s been over forty years.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:47:23am

re: #231 Belafon

That came a little bit later. When it first started being available here in Texas, we started asking about it being used for boys. Our pediatrician at the time wouldn’t even discuss it, so we switched pediatricians.

good to have that option
bad if you don’t

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:47:36am

re: #229 Nyet

Hi everybody! (c)

Just dropping by to share some interesting news - we’ve been able to find and authenticate a wartime copy of the so-called Franke-Gricksch report, the only document of its kind - it explicitly and non-euphemistically describes the mass murder of Jews in the crematoria of Auschwitz. Previously only a crude postwar typed copy was available (so most historians didn’t take it seriously, not to mention Holocaust deniers).

We have now published an original wartime carbon copy from the Bundesarchiv:

Nazi Document on Mass Extermination of Jews in Auschwitz-Birkenau: The Franke-Gricksch Report

holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com

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Hi there! Thanks for the info. Hope to see you again soon!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:47:55am

re: #232 Anymouse 🌹🎃

On people not being able to think in any system other than that with which they grew up:

After Canada went metric in the Seventies, they put up signs near US ports-of-entry which read “Maximum 100 = 60mph.”

On our recent trip to Massachusetts, they had a new such sign on the QEW just after the port-of-entry from New York. It’s been over forty years.

shame on them, it is 62.5 mph

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lawhawk  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:49:45am

re: #227 Decatur Deb

HPV vaccine can prevent cancer. That’s like Holy Grail type stuff.

To avoid the horror of actually ever having to deal with a specific form of cancer. Most everyone knows someone who had cancer, and have heard/seen the horror for themselves. Radiation, chemo, immunotherapies, long convalescence, weakened immunity and all that comes with that, and yet there are people who think this vaccine will make people more promiscuous?

You’re preventing cancer with this vaccine.

People should rejoice over the fact that we have a concrete way to prevent cancer. Maybe go fuck each other or something (oh… wait)…

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jeffreyw  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:51:11am

re: #201 Dave In Austin

Thanks, that’s what I’m gonna call it.

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lawhawk  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:51:33am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:51:33am

re: #229 Nyet

Check-in more.

Same shit, different millenium.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:51:44am

re: #229 Nyet

Are you still suspended from twitter?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:52:37am

re: #236 lawhawk

You’re preventing cancer with this vaccine.

People should rejoice over the fact that we have a concrete way to prevent cancer. Maybe go fuck each other or something (oh… wait)…

If fear of cancer prevents sinful premarital sex, then it is worth denying the vaccine, I guess…

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lawhawk  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:52:40am

Dinesh de Felon is disingenuous once again (but I repeat myself).

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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:54:06am

re: #241 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If fear of cancer prevents sinful premarital sex, then it is worth denying the vaccine, I guess…

If fear of burning eternally in a lake of fire won’t do it, it’s likely a lost cause.

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Nyet  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:54:21am

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

Twitter staff are Nazi collaborators, so of course.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:55:57am

re: #243 Decatur Deb

If fear of burning eternally in a lake of fire won’t do it, it’s likely a lost cause.

social shame and ostracism are in decline, so they need all the weapons available to save teenagers from the temptations of their bodies…

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:57:23am

re: #238 lawhawk

Amy Siskind 🏳️‍🌈

@Amy_Siskind
Hallmark of authoritarianism: the American Bar Association raises alarm bells that judges are being threatened after Trump’s rhetoric.americanbar.org

Everything Hitler did was legal: his judges, his laws. The Federalist Society infestation is destroying our judiciary; our voices and rights are slowly being taken from us and if the GOP controls the WH and the Senate after 2020, we will have no path to recovery, especially given the GOP judges’ support for voter suppression and disenfranchisement.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:57:41am

re: #245 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

social shame and ostracism are in decline, so they need all the weapons available to save teenagers from the temptations of their bodies…

Mandatory orthodontics ought to do it.

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William Lewis  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:59:30am

re: #236 lawhawk

My grandmother died a miserable death from cervical cancer. You goddamn betcha my son got the HPV vaccination. It needs to be manditory, with only allergy as an exception.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 11:02:21am

re: #236 lawhawk

Antivaxxers would rather let their children die than accept that vaccines save lives.

It’s not surprising that antivaxxers backed by the anti-science GOP would spread all sorts of nonsense about Gardasil (sp?). It’s not like anyone ever heard of teenagers having sex after all. It’s gotta be the vaccine. Or evolution. Or lack of prayer in school.

Anything except admitting they’re wrong.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 12, 2019 • 11:11:55am

re: #227 Decatur Deb

(IIRC, it was to be provided to boys as well, to interrupt xmit.)

And penile cancer.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 12, 2019 • 2:45:38pm

re: #242 lawhawk

Dinesh de Felon is disingenuous once again (but I repeat myself).

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