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plansbandc  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:11:21pm

Watching Hannibal, because that’s the sick mood I’m in right now.

Fun fact: Well no, it’s not a fun fact, it’s disgusting. When we saw Hannibal in the theater, we were waiting in a fairly long line to get in, and there was a seven or eight year old kid in line with his parents. JFC. Been a long time and I still remember it. I wonder what that did to his head. (CL’d from last thread.)

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:17:36pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:17:36pm

(video, seventy-five seconds)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:25:49pm

re: #2 Patricia Kayden

Oops. I just got done playing video games with my friends. I forgot to schedule our big shoot-‘em-up, though. Have to call them back.

///

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:26:50pm
Seth takes a closer look at President Trump retweeting a conspiracy theory accusing former President Clinton of murder.

He actually said to Bill O’Reilly “poor people put birth announcements in the paper?”

The hospital does that.

When my son was born at home in Virginia Beach, I called the editor of the Virginian-Pilot & Ledger-Star and asked them to run his birth in the newborns column. All they said was “we’ll have to put his birth under ‘at home, is that okay?’” It didn’t cost anything.

Does this guy know anything at all? How does he think his childrens’ birth announcements got in the paper?

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stpaulbear  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:31:24pm

re: #5 Anymouse 🌹🎃

He actually said to Bill O’Reilly “poor people put birth announcements in the paper?”

The hospital does that.

When my son was born at home in Virginia Beach, I called the editor of the Virginian-Pilot & Ledger-Star and asked them to run his birth in the newborns column. All they said was “we’ll have to put his birth under ‘at home, is that okay?’” It didn’t cost anything.

Does this guy know anything at all? How does he think his childrens’ birth announcements got in the paper?

He probably thinks of them the same way he thinks of obituaries, and he and his dad probably grew up reading the obituaries to see who’s losing while they’re winning.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:34:19pm

For those who own television sets:

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:39:51pm

I have to wonder if the so-called “never Trumpers” in the GOP and their hangers-on in the pundit class are secretly hoping Donald Trump loses the next election, without actually standing up to him.

That way they can claim “this was the wrong way to go” and move the GOP in a different direction.

I suspect they wouldn’t be able to do that. The GOP has spent half a century training their voters to be like this.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:41:36pm

re: #6 stpaulbear

He probably thinks of them the same way he thinks of obituaries, and he and his dad probably grew up reading the obituaries to see who’s losing while they’re winning.

I can see some douchecanoe birther in the future if my son ever ran for office.

“Your birth certificate has a street address on it and not a hospital. It must be a fake; where’s your long-form birth certificate?”

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unproven innocence  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:43:53pm

re: #9 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I can see some douchecanoe birther in the future if my son ever ran for office.

“Your birth certificate has a street address on it and not a hospital. It must be a fake; where’s your long-form birth certificate?”

According to legend, at least one of our Presidents was born in a log cabin.

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gocart mozart  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:45:57pm

Beastie Boys — Paul Revere

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:46:55pm

There are estimates that Trump’s new public assistance rule to deny green cards or immigration to those using public assistance will cost tens of millions of dollars annually to enforce.

Good luck with that, Rep. Chu. It’s got to get past both Mitch McConnell’s personal fiefdom and Donald Trump.

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:50:13pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:52:48pm

This is bullshit. My wife and I were married there. There aren’t that many people total there.

Those who speak Spanish (“illegals”) are the descendants of those who the border moved over after the Mexican-American War.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 7:57:33pm

re: #14 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Plus the random capitalisation of towns is nice, along with the misspelt “Saguache” (where our marriage is registered, a mighty town of about 500). There’s no “free housing centers” there.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:06:22pm

That what happens when you block all legislation. Nothing gets done. It’s simple really.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:09:44pm

Off-topic extremely local news:

I took the trash out to the Dumpster. There is a spider with a body over an inch long (not the legs) building a web across my back porch.

I might need the shotgun for that one. (I’ll leave her alone. Perhaps she can take out a few of the flies we have this time of year.)

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unproven innocence  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:13:25pm

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Keep her around for Halloween, and save on candy.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:13:55pm

re: #16 Dread Pirate

That what happens when you block all legislation. Nothing gets done. It’s simple really.

I would like to see a rules change in the Senate (which would require the Democrats taking the Senate first).

If a bill is passed out of committee, it must be scheduled for debate and a vote. None of this “pocket veto” nonsense from the Senate Majority Leader.

Wanna hold a filibuster? Fine. Do the actual floor speech. Drag out the cots and fast-food orders. None of this “we have enough votes to block it, so that’s a filibuster” crap.

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plansbandc  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:13:57pm

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹🎃

PICTURE!

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mmmirele  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:22:38pm

re: #14 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Because I have nothing better to do on a Monday night than to give facts to a Confederate lover.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:27:23pm

re: #20 plansbandc

PICTURE!

I’m sorry I tried. My cheap digital camera cannot focus closely enough to get a clear picture, and the flash washes everything out.

Turning the flash off gives me a nice black frame. The back porch light does not provide sufficient light to illuminate the spider in the camera.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:32:29pm

re: #21 mmmirele

Because I have nothing better to do on a Monday night than to give facts to a Confederate lover.

Lots of “Schrodinger’s poor Americans” in that thread. “Let’s feed Americans first!” but said-same conservatives are nowhere to be found when someone proposes that. Then they’re lazy moochers.

I’m surprised the “homeless vet” trope hasn’t come up yet.

Good thing I’m not on Twitter. I’d get banned in six hours or less calling out these liars.

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gocart mozart  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:36:17pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:37:38pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:38:54pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I have to wonder if the so-called “never Trumpers” in the GOP and their hangers-on in the pundit class are secretly hoping Donald Trump loses the next election, without actually standing up to him.

That way they can claim “this was the wrong way to go” and move the GOP in a different direction.

I suspect they wouldn’t be able to do that. The GOP has spent half a century training their voters to be like this.

Some white nationalist like Kobach will run for the GOP nomination, and has a pretty good chance of getting it, because that is what their base wants.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:44:01pm

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Lots of “Schrodinger’s poor Americans” in that thread. “Let’s feed Americans first!” but said-same conservatives are nowhere to be found when someone proposes that. Then they’re lazy moochers.

I’m surprised the “homeless vet” trope hasn’t come up yet.

Good thing I’m not on Twitter. I’d get banned in six hours or less calling out these liars.

I just block them; lots of good stuff on Twitter.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:45:38pm

Fun fact: in 2017 California had a GDP 71% higher than Russia with a population that was only 27% of that of Russia. It’s amazing that a nation that is basically so poor has such an outsized influence on the world of today. Russia certainly has natural resources but it’s never had the leadership that could help transform the nation into a modern powerhouse; instead it is really a failed state. And Putin is the leader that Trump admires and wants to emulate.

Rick Wilson’s book “Everything Trump Touches Dies” may be a terrifying prophecy about our fate.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:51:52pm

re: #25 gocart mozart

LIVE] First day of the 3-day sit-in rally at Hong Kong International Airport. #HongKong protestors are singing the protest anthem “Do you hear the people sing?” from Les Misérables. #FreedomHK #antiELAB #StandwithHK #HongKongProtest pic.twitter.com

— Freedom HK (@FreedomHKG) August 9, 2019

But that revolution ended badly for the people of France. And the French government then had no where near the power of the modern Chinese government.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:51:55pm

Not just Trump upset with the internet.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:53:00pm

re: #30 Dread Pirate

Not just Trump upset with the internet.

Too bad for Russia’s telecom watchdog.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:55:51pm

Interesting: Walter Shaub has deleted all his tweets. Speculation? I imagine his 363k followers would like to know.

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mmmirele  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:56:03pm

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Lots of “Schrodinger’s poor Americans” in that thread. “Let’s feed Americans first!” but said-same conservatives are nowhere to be found when someone proposes that. Then they’re lazy moochers.

I’m surprised the “homeless vet” trope hasn’t come up yet.

Good thing I’m not on Twitter. I’d get banned in six hours or less calling out these liars.

I just challenged my nutbar congressman who is in favor of Trump cutting off people who get benefits from getting green cards. My response:

Right so you are in favor of starving the American citizen children of non-citizen parents? Do you not care about *children*? Or is this because the pain and punishment is the POINT? Rep. Biggs, you look terrible here. *scowl*

I also gave some of his regular commenters hell:

Rodney Hughes The children…they are citizens. Do you not even care, or do you want them to starve if their non-citizen parents can’t afford to feed them? Tell us, Rodney, do you want them to starve? We really want to know how freaking hard-hearted you are about *children*. C’mon Rodney, tell us how much you want to harm American citizen children because of where their parents came from. *scowl*

Sam Sarkisian You too? You want to starve American children because of the national origin of their parents? Are you deliberately cruel, or is it part of your politics? Please tell us how it feels to deny children food. Does it make you HAPPY to take food from children’s mouths, Sam? I really want to know what makes a hard-hearted person like you tick.

And yes, if any of you attack me, I’ll remind you that you want to starve children. Let those words sink in. You want to STARVE CHILDREN. You are that kind of perverse and sick.

(And yeah, some of the children aren’t citizens, but I used the “the kids are citizens” attack because these guys want to starve children who don’t happen to be the right color or have the right national origin. I am not going to let this go. Most of these people would claim to be good Christians. I’m taking them at their word and giving them grief.)

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:56:35pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:58:16pm

re: #33 mmmirele

My congressman would simply reject any contact from me since he only represents Republicans (his words).

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mmmirele  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:59:10pm

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🎃

My congressman would simply reject any contact from me since he only represents Republicans (his words).

Andy Biggs doesn’t represent me. He only represents Republicans and church-goers. The rest of us can just go to hell.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:59:57pm

re: #33 mmmirele

I just challenged my nutbar congressman who is in favor of Trump cutting off people who get benefits from getting green cards. My response:

I also gave some of his regular commenters hell:

(And yeah, some of the children aren’t citizens, but I used the “the kids are citizens” attack because these guys want to starve children who don’t happen to be the right color or have the right national origin. I am not going to let this go. Most of these people would claim to be good Christians. I’m taking them at their word and giving them grief.)

Why are you taking these people at their word? Your experience has repeatedly shown that your definition of “good Christian” is totally alien to them.

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gocart mozart  Aug 12, 2019 • 8:59:59pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:01:39pm

re: #34 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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gocart mozart  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:06:25pm
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Belafon  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:07:33pm

re: #1 plansbandc

Watching Hannibal, because that’s the sick mood I’m in right now.

Fun fact: Well no, it’s not a fun fact, it’s disgusting. When we saw Hannibal in the theater, we were waiting in a fairly long line to get in, and there was a seven or eight year old kid in line with his parents. JFC. Been a long time and I still remember it. I wonder what that did to his head. (CL’d from last thread.)

More thank likely, nothing.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:07:39pm

re: #37 Hecuba’s daughter

Why are you taking these people at their word? Your experience has repeatedly shown that your definition of “good Christian” is totally alien to them.

I take anyone who says “Christian” at their word, because it’s not my place to judge who is and who isn’t.

All I think when I hear the word “Christian” in a public place is start looking for a way out, a secondary exit, &c. I can’t be certain which of them might assault me or worse over either my politics or religious views.

That goes all the way back to my earliest childhood, and my trust in a Christian is dependent on if I know that person first.

I get a lot of people here are upset with me over that attitude. It has, however, saved my neck more than once.

It’s why I compare it (though the comparison is strained a bit) with a woman who meets a man she doesn’t know anything about. You just don’t know.

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mmmirele  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:13:16pm

re: #37 Hecuba’s daughter

Why are you taking these people at their word? Your experience has repeatedly shown that your definition of “good Christian” is totally alien to them.

I don’t like to call myself a Christian because so many of the people who claim the name make me sick. That’s the truth. I especially get unhappy whenever a prominent “professional Christian” comes out as walking away from the faith. That’s because the standard response from a lot of Christians is to push the person into the Christian airlock and vent to vacuum. There’s no room given to the person for grace and space.

This is why I regularly state that I am outside the charmed circle of the household of faith. It’s probably wrong for me to do that, because I should be accepting both the good and the bad of my fellow Christians, but I get so very, very tired of the way other Christians try to purify the flock by publicly excommunicating people. I don’t want any part of it.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:20:42pm

re: #43 mmmirele

That’s the truth. I especially get unhappy whenever a prominent “professional Christian” comes out as walking away from the faith. That’s because the standard response from a lot of Christians is to push the person into the Christian airlock and vent to vacuum. There’s no room given to the person for grace and space.

Or even an “amateur Christian.” Suddenly they were “never a real Christian.”

Plenty of the counter-apologists on YouTube were fully immersed in their religious belief. Matt Dillahunty was in seminary. Telltale Atheist was a lay pastor. Paulogia was a Mennonite lay pastor.

Every last one in the comments section of YouTube (Twitter, but without Nazis) videos will have long screeds of preaching, paragraphs of the Bible plastered to their comments, continuous claims they were never “true Christians.”

One thing those commentators ARE doing is driving away anyone who might be considering Christianity as an adult. They see the hatred and say “no thanks.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:26:58pm

When my wife and I first moved here, the woman across the street from us asked us over as part of a “welcome to town” visit.

Sure, okay.

She’s from North Carolina originally. After some small talk, the Southern greeting “which church do you go to” question came out (I know that’s a Southern thing).

My wife answered her honestly, “We’re atheists.”

No! You can’t be that! You must REALLY mean you’re agnostics. You’ll burn in hell for that. (et cetera)

That was the last time we visited with her. Thankfully (for us) she no longer lives here.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:31:15pm

(8:36)
Utah Outcasts (caution for coarse language) goes after Rick Wiles’s rant against the movie “The Hunt” (caution for Rick Wiles’s antisemitism right out of the gate in his first sentence).

Rick Wiles Goes Full Anti-Semite Over “The Hunt”

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sagehen  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:38:13pm

re: #7 Anymouse 🌹🎃

For those who own television sets:

[Embedded content]

For those who don’t own television sets,
cc.com

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:40:41pm

re: #47 sagehen

For those who don’t own television sets,
cc.com

Thanks! Watching now.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:43:59pm

re: #47 sagehen

“We went from a President who sang ‘Amazing Grace’ to one who displays zero of it.”

Thud.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:56:51pm

Hope everyone’s ready for the final season of The Deuce.

The Deuce: Season 3 | Official Teaser | HBO

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 9:57:39pm

Much BS can be packed into 240 characters.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:18:06pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹🎃

How is his antisemitic rhetoric any different than Donald Trump’s racist rhetoric?

Rick Wiles probably doesn’t have the reach of Donald Trump, but is a stochastic terrorist nonetheless. Such speech is guaranteed to send someone on a murderous rampage against people they believe are Jews.

YouTube won’t ban Rick Wiles for violations of Terms of Service though, because Christian hate sells lots of adverts, and YouTube is all about money.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:21:17pm

Donald Trump ‘supports No Deal Brexit enthusiastically with trade deal piece by piece’

That’s according to his hawkish national security advisor John Bolton, who claims he and the president were ‘leavers before there were leavers’

Because sociopath Trump and Bolton want to see the world burn.

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:22:17pm

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:23:25pm

re: #53 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Donald Trump ‘supports No Deal Brexit enthusiastically with trade deal piece by piece’

Because sociopath Trump and Bolton want to see the world burn.

“If the world doesn’t want white people in charge, then it doesn’t need to exist.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:23:53pm

Pound dives against euro and dollar on Brexit fear

The pound sank to about $1.2013 in the early hours of yesterday morning - a fresh 31-month low against the greenback.

Xenophobic nationalism always ends in tragedy.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:25:31pm

Looks like yet another board member has resigned from the NRA - this is the fourth resignation in the last two weeks.

Julie Golob, a professional sport shooter and a strong public advocate for gun rights, announced Monday she was resigning from the National Rifle Association board before the end of her three-year term.

She is the fourth member in the past two weeks to leave the board of the NRA in a sign of further upheaval within the nation’s most powerful gun rights group.

Since [Oliver] North’s departure, the organization has been roiled by allegations of self-dealing, including a report last week that LaPierre sought to have the nonprofit organization buy him a luxury mansion in 2018 after a mass shooting at a Florida high school.

Pressure has also mounted on the organization in the wake of last week’s shootings in Dayton, Ohio, and El Paso. As a chorus again demands background checks and other restrictions on firearms sales, gun-control advocates say Golob’s departure adds to the sense that the NRA is vulnerable.

beta.washingtonpost.com

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:26:26pm

re: #56 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Pound dives against euro and dollar on Brexit fear

Xenophobic nationalism always ends in tragedy.

At this rate, the £ sterling is going to be lower than the US$ by the end of the year.

I imagine parity of the £ with the $ would be one of those “psychological trading barriers” that traders talk about. Would that cause the £ to bounce back, or crater?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:27:55pm

re: #55 Belafon

“If the world doesn’t want white people in charge, then it doesn’t need to exist.”

Brexit hero, and Trumper, Nigel Farage’s latest target is Meghan Markle.

I wonder why….

Oh, and of course, Fox News piles on , as if on cue:

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry no longer invited to dinner parties because of this habit: report

I wonder why…

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:28:57pm

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

Looks like yet another board member has resigned from the NRA - this is the fourth resignation in the last two weeks.

beta.washingtonpost.com

Four out of seventy-six board members doesn’t seem like a lot. I wonder what the usual turnover is.

That said, Republicans can toss her in the same bin with SE Cupp (you were never a true gun rights advocate).

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:35:06pm

Another gone-emeritus going off the edge:

Weatherman Bill Giles says climate change is good for UK as it’ll boost tourism

Bill, 79, said: “We have 10 years or so to grasp the nettle and make sure that, due to climate change, we tap into the trend of warmer, more predictable summers and make the leisure and holiday industries the backbone of our post-Brexit economy.

“Climate change is on our side, and now is the time to start planning for it.

[…]

“This won’t just be from families here - people all over the world, and especially in Europe, could be seduced to come and enjoy the UK as our climate becomes more acceptable and their own becomes unbearably hot.

The utter stupidity of all this…

All xenophobic nationalism ends in tragedy.

The reason the ultranationalists deny climate change (note that the former weatherman is not denying its existence, just the negative consequences for the UK) is because anthropogenic climate change demonstrates that everyone around the world is connected.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:41:24pm

re: #61 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

How do you revoke someone’s sanity card?

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uriel  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:43:50pm

re: #4 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oops. I just got done playing video games with my friends. I forgot to schedule our big shoot-‘em-up, though. Have to call them back.

///

Don’t worry! You can’t force your eventual homicidal murder spree! It will come naturally- it’s inevitable.

Like porn, or the way not praying at governmental functions will naturally lead you to embrace the anti-Christ’s new world order. You’ll know it when you see it.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:48:28pm

re: #63 uriel

Don’t worry! You can’t force your eventual homicidal murder spree! It will come naturally- it’s inevitable.

Like porn, or the way not praying at governmental functions will naturally lead you to embrace the anti-Christ’s new world order. You’ll know it when you see it.

Hi! I don’t think I’ve met you ‘round these parts.

Does that mean since I no longer edit erotic Romance novels, I am no longer subject to the siren call of the NWO, or am I doomed anyways?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:55:38pm

Oncoming migraine. I’m going to have to hide in bed for a day or so pretty soon.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 12, 2019 • 10:59:09pm

Brexit is such a good example of how nationalism really is a failure of political systems to adapt to changes in the world and life (physical life, economic life). But it’s not just politicians who fail, but academia does too.

From a submitted piece in The Guardian:

Campaigners for ‘remain and reform’ need to offer a new democratic settlement to win over hearts and minds

It’s late in the day, but “remain and reform” campaigners could acknowledge that England’s governance needs every bit as much reform as that of the EU. Labour could set out a vision for the English nation within the union. Perceptive Liberal Democrats should understand that the voters who abandoned them for the Tories in 2015 were driven by the English interest. If England’s democratic aspirations were recognised, the English could once again become part of the mainstream political conversation from which they have been excluded for too long. Misplaced fears of English nationalism could be put back in the box.

Those words are not from a Tory-gone-Trumper, but from someone who has long ties to the Labour party. Yet the sentiment, dressed up in well constructed sentences the likes of which are beyond Trump and Trumpers, is still the same old cries of but-what-about-me!

The author is from the academic circle, the CENTRE FOR ENGLISH IDENTITY AND POLITICS

For all their academic language, and even with their probably accurate insight into how local governance in the UK and especially England is messed up, it’s still grievance theatre.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 11:08:37pm

re: #66 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

the English could once again become part of the mainstream political conversation from which they have been excluded for too long. Misplaced fears of English nationalism could be put back in the box.

It was the English vote which carried the Brexit vote. They are hardly marginalised in the United Kingdom.

Reading the page on the Oxford site it almost reads like a John Tanton AstroTurf group’s mission statement like “Numbers USA.” We’ll hide the racism in academic-sounding language.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 12, 2019 • 11:23:06pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 12, 2019 • 11:25:20pm

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I think it’s academics who are swallowing the red pill (or is it the blue pill, I get confused on these matters.)

Reading one of their presentations from 2017, where the authors writes about himself taking a DNA test, showed me that he doesn’t really do well with modern science.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 11:27:04pm

Local news: I’m doomed.

Chores:

✔️ Clean up canning equipment for next round of vegetable canning
✔️ Wash canning jars, new lids, and bands
✔️ Wash other dishes
✔️ Carry out trash
❌ Vacuum kitchen

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 12, 2019 • 11:27:45pm

re: #69 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I think it’s the blue pill…. yeah, those academics are swallowing the blue pill.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 11:29:11pm

re: #68 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Free will, as defined by the Bible, cannot exist, else it is contradictory to God being omniscient.

As for free will outside of religion, some atheists claim that, most answer “I don’t know.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 12, 2019 • 11:48:51pm

re: #68 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The article throws out the buzz words ” quantum physics ” but any randomness at the planck scale is irrelevant here because human neurons are far too large.

Maybe he is asserting we think free will should walk the Planck.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 12, 2019 • 11:50:11pm
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DodgerFan1988  Aug 12, 2019 • 11:56:56pm

Traitors!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 13, 2019 • 12:11:06am

re: #75 DodgerFan1988

Traitors!

Meeting with their handlers.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 13, 2019 • 12:11:20am

The use of tradition and religion to fan the flames of atavism is hardly limited to Trump and the GOP:

PM Abe vows ‘full-scale’ constitutional revision debate on visit to father’s grave

[…]

Accompanied by his wife Akie, Abe offered a prayer in front of his father’s tomb in his home prefecture of Yamaguchi.

The prime minister then told the press, “I have reported (to my father) that I have achieved a victory in a national election at the beginning of the Reiwa era, and renewed my resolve that I must respond to the public mandate boldly.”

With regard to his stated goal of amending the postwar Constitution, Abe described it as “the biggest agenda since the establishment of the Liberal Democratic Party,” which he currently heads.

[…]

On the previous day, Abe attended a memorial service marking the 32nd anniversary of the death of his grandfather, former Prime Minister Nobusuke Kishi, at Daionji temple in the town of Tabuse, also in Yamaguchi Prefecture.

[…]

Kishi was a war criminal who spent 3 years in prison for his crimes (of his brutal rule in China).

And Abe wants to glorify his ancestors and make Japan great again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 12:44:33am

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹🎃

At this rate, the £ sterling is going to be lower than the US$ by the end of the year.

I imagine parity of the £ with the $ would be one of those “psychological trading barriers” that traders talk about. Would that cause the £ to bounce back, or crater?

The Pound is on its way to parity with the Euro, at €1.08

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 13, 2019 • 1:00:12am

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Pound is on its way to parity with the Euro, at €1.08

yikes.

If it crashes below the Euro, I imagine it will drop further (though I don’t pretend to understand speculation in currency markets).

That said, very rich people tend to make money no matter what a market is doing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 1:03:06am

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹🎃

yikes.

If it crashes below the Euro, I imagine it will drop further (though I don’t pretend to understand speculation in currency markets).

That said, very rich people tend to make money no matter what a market is doing.

I suggested at one point that when the Pound reaches €1.05, they could then fix the exchange rate to prevent further decline, join the Currency Union and declare it the Euroguinea.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 13, 2019 • 1:18:50am

Arson?

You mean crime brulee, don’t you?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 13, 2019 • 1:34:55am

Getting back to Farage hating on Markle, the Daily Fail ran a long feature story:

‘Lay off Meghan you bellicose toad’: Nigel Farage sparks angry backlash after attack on ‘Prince of Wokeness’ Harry and Meghan Markle for their ‘irrelevant’ environmental campaigns

[…]

Addressing a conservative conference in Australia, Mr Farage tore into the royal couple’s decision to have only two children and claimed Prince Harry’s popularity had ‘fallen off a cliff’ after meeting Meghan.

Mr Farage appeared to condone Harry dressing as a Nazi at a fancy dress party in 2005, saying he preferred the prince when he was ‘getting into trouble’ and ‘causing all sorts of mayhem’.

[…]

So what was this “conservative conference”? It was nothing less than an export from the US, the CPAC folk looking for ways to expand their reach to other countries:

Mr Farage launched the scathing attack on the royals during the three-day Sydney Conservative Political Action Conference, where media members were banned.

So what is the appeal of these throwbacks? Also at the gathering:

Tony Abbott, the Australian PM replaced by Mr Turnbull in 2015, was also at CPAC on its first day on Friday.

He described how Australia had ‘lost its anchor posts’ and said, ‘they used to be anchored in the Christian faith. Faith is a gift, some people have, some people don’t.’

I keep repeating myself here… the loss-of-God problem is key to the surge of the attraction to the new fascism, which uses nostalgic appeals to the good old days, and among the most powerful of these appeals is to the old (now outdated) belief systems.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2019 • 1:57:08am

This looks great. Eddie Murphy - and Wesley Snipes - are back.

Dolemite Is My Name Trailer #1 (2019) | Movieclips Trailers

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 13, 2019 • 2:02:34am

Typhoon Krosa weakened somewhat yesterday, but it looks to be strengthening again before hitting Japan. Winds are not high but it is a large storm, and will bring flooding to the Japan with its very hilly topography:

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2019 • 2:22:49am

The QAnon grift-a-thon is ramping up big time:

This particular phenomenon has been monetized and whomever is behind it stands to profit handsomely. Which is why it’s probably still a thing, despite being so utterly ridiculous.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 2:34:54am

re: #85 Dr Lizardo

The QAnon grift-a-thon is ramping up big time:

This particular phenomenon has been monetized and whomever is behind it stands to profit handsomely. Which is why it’s probably still a thing, despite being so utterly ridiculous.

As soon as “Trending on Twitter” became a news item in and of itself, I began to despair for the future of the Republic.

People like Breitbart, Drudge and now QAnon were among the first to understand that they just have to float bullshit out there long enough and it will develop legs and get picked up and discussed by the MSM as if it had some validity.

Now “Clinton Witness Removal” is out there nicely distracting us from Trump’s own personal connection to the dead child molester.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2019 • 2:43:44am

re: #86 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As soon as “Trending on Twitter” became a news item in and of itself, I began to despair for the future of the Republic.

People like Breitbart, Drudge and now QAnon were among the first to understand that they just have to float bullshit out there long enough and it will develop legs and get picked up and discussed by the MSM as if it had some validity.

Now “Clinton Witness Removal” is out there nicely distracting us from Trump’s own personal connection to the dead child molester.

Not only that, but when photos or vids of Trump and Epstein together are posted, Trump’s cultists are crying “Fake news!” or “It’s a deepfake!” or something to that effect.

Like any cult, they’re blatantly refusing to see what’s evident to all and sundry. If Trump loses next year (knock on wood) they’re going to be in a state of disbelief and shock - probably similar to the Great Disappointment. And I have little doubt that some of them, hopefully a tiny minority of them, may well react violently to such a loss, viewing it as either nothing less than a personal attack upon themselves or the beginnings of a “deep state coup d’etat” being put into action.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 2:58:24am

re: #87 Dr Lizardo

…If Trump loses next year (knock on wood) they’re going to be in a state of disbelief and shock - probably similar to the Great Disappointment. And I have little doubt that some of them, hopefully a tiny minority of them, may well react violently to such a loss, viewing it as either nothing less than a personal attack upon themselves or the beginnings of a “deep state coup d’etat” being put into action.

The millions of illegals voting illegally.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2019 • 3:02:44am

OK, this gave me a good laugh. A collection of anecdotes from celebrities who’ve met Donald Trump over the years. I loved the one at the end from Candice Bergen, who went on a blind date with Trump back in the 1970s. LOL.

theguardian.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 13, 2019 • 3:23:16am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 13, 2019 • 3:30:17am

Over 62,600 now
Rename Fifth Avenue in front of Trump Tower: “President Barack H. Obama Avenue” - MoveOn.Org

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2019 • 4:08:23am

re: #91 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Over 62,600 now
Rename Fifth Avenue in front of Trump Tower: “President Barack H. Obama Avenue” - MoveOn.Org

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LOL Trump would probably demand Trump Tower be torn down and rebuilt somewhere else.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 4:11:04am

re: #92 Dr Lizardo

LOL Trump would probably demand Trump Tower be torn down and rebuilt somewhere else.

He will just sell it to a Russian oligarch - in cash for three times its value - and then have a new one built elsewhere.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 4:11:08am

re: #91 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Over 62,600 now
Rename Fifth Avenue in front of Trump Tower: “President Barack H. Obama Avenue” - MoveOn.Org

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Sounds good. And lest we forget but Obama spent sometime in NYC at Columbia.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Aug 13, 2019 • 4:19:40am

re: #85 Dr Lizardo

The Troll /Joker (different in the sense that a joker thought that everyone knew they were joking and not to be taken seriously) behind the “Q” maralaky must be annoyed, now understanding they could have been paid in $ to spout unverifiable BS to morons.

Also, “Digital Soldiers Conference”, sounds like a meeting for Cosplay “Warfighters” who have never heard the phrase, “Keyboard C(K)ommandos.”

I don’t really know, so I’ll ask: how long does it take to decode a secure trip-code these days? I doubt it takes as long as it once did.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 4:21:18am

I am thinking about the new rule on public assistance for immigrants. It gets back to what Romney said about self deporting. Mitt more than any GOP nominee before him led to Trump which is why I don’t buy Romney when he acts concerned at all.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 4:21:33am

...

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 4:22:15am

re: #96 HappyWarrior

I am thinking about the new rule on public assistance for immigrants. It gets back to what Romney said about self deporting. Mitt more than any GOP nominee before him led to Trump which is why I don’t buy Romney when he acts concerned at all.

Because Trump is an embarrassment to the party and is leaking their private agenda…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 4:24:05am

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because Trump is an embarrassment to the party and is leaking their private agenda…

Right.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Aug 13, 2019 • 4:24:17am

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Saying the quiet part Extra loud, and the loud part under Melania’s breath?

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steve_davis  Aug 13, 2019 • 4:31:18am

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Off-topic extremely local news:

I took the trash out to the Dumpster. There is a spider with a body over an inch long (not the legs) building a web across my back porch.

I might need the shotgun for that one. (I’ll leave her alone. Perhaps she can take out a few of the flies we have this time of year.)

is she a banana spider? those are beautiful yellowish spiders and as far as I know they don’t eat anything larger than toy dogs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 4:38:12am

My job in every relationship I have ever been in was that of Spider Ejector. I do not kill them unless they are poisonous.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 4:39:18am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 4:42:46am

re: #103 DangerMan

There is an indication that some of the Fundamentalists’ ardor for him is cooling but not enough to turn them Democrat to any great extent

At best we can hope that fewer of them will feel compelled to get out and support/vote for him

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 4:43:26am

re: #13 Ace-o-aces

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Poland meets its 2% of GDP spending obligation

so Poland qualifies for the next Democratic debate?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 4:45:27am

re: #13 Ace-o-aces

Poland meets its 2% of GDP spending obligation towards NATO. Germany does not. We would welcome American troops in Germany to come to Poland.

Germany is the largest economy in the EU. If it spent its full 2%, it would have the largest army in Europe, larger even than Russia.

is that what we really want?

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2019 • 4:46:38am

re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is an indication that some of the Fundamentalists’ ardor for him is cooling but not enough to turn them Democrat to any great extent

At best we can hope that fewer of them will feel compelled to get out and support/vote for him

Personally, I’m hoping that just enough of the Fundies will choose to sit it out next year that Trump and the GOP lose big. They’re definitely a hardcore voting bloc, but if enough of them decide to stay home, it’d be enough to tip the balance in close races.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 4:48:14am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germany is the largest economy in the EU. If it spent its full 2%, it would have the largest army in Europe, larger even than Russia.

is that what we really want?

Trump really doesn’t understand European history at all.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 4:56:42am

re: #107 Dr Lizardo

Personally, I’m hoping that just enough of the Fundies will choose to sit it out next year that Trump and the GOP lose big. They’re definitely a hardcore voting bloc, but if enough of them decide to stay home, it’d be enough to tip the balance in close races.

Unfortunately I think the Fundies will be Trump’s biggest foot soldiers for re-election. He gave them Kavanaugh and Gorsuch and Pence is the closest they’ve had to one of their own in the executive branch. Pompeo at SoS too. Interestingly I believe both Pompeo and Pence or at least Pence are converts to Evangelicalism- Pence having grown up Catholic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 5:02:30am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Unfortunately I think the Fundies will be Trump’s biggest foot soldiers for re-election. He gave them Kavanaugh and Gorsuch and Pence is the closest they’ve had to one of their own in the executive branch. Pompeo at SoS too. Interestingly I believe both Pompeo and Pence or at least Pence are converts to Evangelicalism- Pence having grown up Catholic.

Pence is their point man, ever since Reagan threw them under the bus, they have been insinuating their people into all levels of public life; education, public administration, the Military, etc., and now they have one of their own positioned only a dicky heartbeat away from the Presidency.

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LastYearsMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 5:08:18am

For the life of me, I can’t see what the protesters in Hong Kong are trying to do. All tactics but no strategy, as the saying goes. Things will not end well there.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 13, 2019 • 5:15:56am

re: #90 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Kinda cool to be raised by ducks.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 13, 2019 • 5:19:37am

re: #108 HappyWarrior

Trump really doesn’t understand European history at all.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 5:20:21am

re: #113 Colère Tueur de Lapin

True.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 13, 2019 • 5:42:33am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 13, 2019 • 5:47:23am

re: #111 LastYearsMan

For the life of me, I can’t see what the protesters in Hong Kong are trying to do. All tactics but no strategy, as the saying goes. Things will not end well there.

Somebody gets to stand in front of an armored column.

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 5:58:42am

washingtonpost.com

Win Cramer had big plans to hire several new employees this summer for his company, including a chief operating officer, but he took the job listings down after President Trump tweeted that more tariffs would hit Chinese goods in September.

Trump’s escalating trade war has spooked business executives. There’s already been a noticeable decline in business investment as corporate leaders say Trump’s tariffs and unpredictability are creating too much uncertainty, dissuading them from spending large sums on new buildings or equipment. Now there are early signs that business leaders are beginning to pull back on hiring, too.

“It’s the most frustrating time I’ve ever had running a business, and I’ve been doing this for 20 years,” said Cramer, chief executive of JLab Audio, which makes wireless ear buds and headphones that are sold at Best Buy, Target and elsewhere.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:02:44am

re: #117 Belafon

washingtonpost.com

Makes all the red baiting all the more pathetic.

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jeffreyw  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:07:56am

Good morning!

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lawhawk  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:09:56am

Trump’s gas lighting continues apace.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:11:24am

re: #120 lawhawk

You’re bailing out farmers who’d otherwise go bankrupt thanks to your idiotic trade war.

The bailout is costing more than the tariffs bring in, and much of it is going to corporate agriculture and not to farmers and their families.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:13:32am

re: #108 HappyWarrior

Trump really doesn’t understand European history anything at all.

ftfy

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:14:03am

re: #122 The Pie Overlord!

ftfy

True. Gah it’s so frustrating.

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lawhawk  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:14:09am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The bailout is costing more than the tariffs bring in, and much of it is going to corporate agriculture and not to farmers and their families.

True. 50% of the bailout went to just 10% of the businesses - aka agribusinesses that are major producers, not the family farmers who’d go bankrupt with the inability to move their product.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:14:28am

re: #120 lawhawk

At this point anyone who takes that feed seriously with continue to regardless (or in spite of) reality.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:15:35am

re: #124 lawhawk

True. 50% of the bailout went to just 10% of the businesses - aka agribusinesses that are major producers, not the family farmers who’d go bankrupt with the inability to move their product.

but who will continue to vote for Trump because they believe that he is Making America Great Again

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Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:17:08am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The bailout is costing more than the tariffs bring in, and much of it is going to corporate agriculture and not to farmers and their families.

As I’ve noted before, these are bailouts that we can expect to continue past 2020. Those markets that our farmers relied upon have either been closed to them or severely depreciated such that product is simply rotting away in storage. The situation will not magically reverse itself in Jan 2021, so we can expect the next round of bailouts to suddenly be a means by which the GOP tries desperately to mend fences with their rural base.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:18:30am

re: #127 Targetpractice

…The situation will not magically reverse itself in Jan 2021, so we can expect the next round of bailouts to suddenly be a means by which the GOP tries desperately to mend fences with their rural base.

They will just need to hold a few rallies and everything will be good again.

The grifters know their marks too well.

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Old Liberal  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:25:33am

Maybe missed it here….
Anyone see that Frank Luntz has “changed his mind” about climate change because his house in CA almost burned down? He spent the last 20 years promoting denial and now he want bygones to be bygones. Wasted 20 fucking years with his bullshit. We’re gonna see a lot of “let’s not focus on the past” from all these fuckers.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:27:42am

I can just see Stephen Miller on the phone to American Airlines right now, offering them a sweet gig transporting migrant children.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:28:26am

re: #129 Old Liberal

Maybe missed it here….
Anyone see that Frank Luntz has “changed his mind” about climate change because his house in CA almost burned down? He spent the last 20 years promoting denial and now he want bygones to be bygones. Wasted 20 fucking years with his bullshit. We’re gonna see a lot of “let’s not focus on the past” from all these fuckers.

The answer on the part of a lot of rich people to problems is to simply move far enough away from them…but climate change will catch up with you anywhere.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:29:38am

re: #129 Old Liberal

Maybe missed it here….
Anyone see that Frank Luntz has “changed his mind” about climate change because his house in CA almost burned down? He spent the last 20 years promoting denial and now he want bygones to be bygones. Wasted 20 fucking years with his bullshit. We’re gonna see a lot of “let’s not focus on the past” from all these fuckers.

Yet another issue conservatives have been dead wrong about. My shocked face, lemme show ya.

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:30:01am

re: #129 Old Liberal

Maybe missed it here….
Anyone see that Frank Luntz has “changed his mind” about climate change because his house in CA almost burned down? He spent the last 20 years promoting denial and now he want bygones to be bygones. Wasted 20 fucking years with his bullshit. We’re gonna see a lot of “let’s not focus on the past” from all these fuckers.

And you can either stare at them with serious eyes or try to get others to change.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:30:51am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The bailout is costing more than the tariffs bring in, and much of it is going to corporate agriculture and not to farmers and their families.

Because the tariffs didn’t just add x$ to the cost of things, all else being equal

Everyone’s taking huge economic hits because in retaliation their markets dried up completely and went elsewhere. And will have no incentive to ever come back

Maybe we should eat all that stuff before it rots

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:32:30am

re: #126 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

but who will continue to vote for Trump because they believe that he is Making America Great Again

Which means it wasn’t great before
Which means they’re bashing America
Why do they hate America?
They should leave

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:33:19am

re: #127 Targetpractice

As I’ve noted before, these are bailouts that we can expect to continue past 2020. Those markets that our farmers relied upon have either been closed to them or severely depreciated such that product is simply rotting away in storage. The situation will not magically reverse itself in Jan 2021, so we can expect the next round of bailouts to suddenly be a means by which the GOP tries desperately to mend fences with their rural base.

Wait..socialistic welfare? Say it ain’t so

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:34:18am

re: #129 Old Liberal

Maybe missed it here….
Anyone see that Frank Luntz has “changed his mind” about climate change because his house in CA almost burned down? He spent the last 20 years promoting denial and now he want bygones to be bygones. Wasted 20 fucking years with his bullshit. We’re gonna see a lot of “let’s not focus on the past” from all these fuckers.

If it wasn’t “his house” he wouldn’t have budged

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Old Liberal  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:35:45am

re: #133 Belafon

And you can either stare at them with serious eyes or try to get others to change.

Its too late thanks to these fuckers. Like a smoker who denied the damage for 30 years. Yeah, quitting after 30 years is better than not but you’ve fucked yourself well and good. There has to be a cost for being a lying sack of shit. This is why 8 years after Bush destroyed everything the moron/rich coalition brought us drumpf. No one was held accountable.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:38:52am

THEN THEY’RE NOT POOR YOU FREAKING DUMBASS

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:40:16am

re: #139 The Pie Overlord!

Trump immigration chief Ken Cuccinelli defended the admin’s new rule effectively barring legal immigrants on government benefits by suggesting that the Statue of Liberty should read: “Give me your tired and your poor who can stand on their own two feet.”

That is some sick, cynical shit there, Ken.

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:41:40am

re: #138 Old Liberal

Its too late thanks to these fuckers. Like a smoker who denied the damage for 30 years. Yeah, quitting after 30 years is better than not but you’ve fucked yourself well and good. There has to be a cost for being a lying sack of shit. This is why 8 years after Bush destroyed everything the moron/rich coalition brought us drumpf. No one was held accountable.

*You and Frank in his garage*
*Fire in the kitchen*
You: Your house is burning down.
Frank: No it isn’t.
*Fire in living room*
You: Yes it is.
Frank: No it isn’t.
*Fire in garage*
Frank: Ok, the house is on fire.
You: Because it took so long, I’m going to stand here and glare while it burns.

When I tripped the breaker on one of the generators on the ship when I was in the Navy, the first job was to get power back online. And then I got relieved of duty.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:43:28am

re: #139 The Pie Overlord!

THEN THEY’RE NOT POOR YOU FREAKING DUMBASS

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He’s awful. I really thought he would be gone from government after Terry McAuliffe beat him for Governor.

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Old Liberal  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:47:09am

re: #141 Belafon

*You and Frank in his garage*
*Fire in the kitchen*
You: Your house is burning down.
Frank: No it isn’t.
*Fire in living room*
You: Yes it is.
Frank: No it isn’t.
*Fire in garage*
Frank: Ok, the house is on fire.
You: Because it took so long, I’m going to stand here and glare while it burns.

When I tripped the breaker on one of the generators on the ship when I was in the Navy, the first job was to get power back online. And then I got relieved of duty.

No, MY house is burning down because Frank lit it in fire. I can beat Frank with a hammer until he’s a bloody mess for destroying my place. Its too late to put it out. That happens, you know. Too late is a real thing.

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Old Liberal  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:50:58am

re: #141 Belafon

*You and Frank in his garage*
*Fire in the kitchen*
You: Your house is burning down.
Frank: No it isn’t.
*Fire in living room*
You: Yes it is.
Frank: No it isn’t.
*Fire in garage*
Frank: Ok, the house is on fire.
You: Because it took so long, I’m going to stand here and glare while it burns.

When I tripped the breaker on one of the generators on the ship when I was in the Navy, the first job was to get power back online. And then I got relieved of duty.

Tripping a breaker isn’t the same as detonating a magazine

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Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:51:47am

re: #139 The Pie Overlord!

THEN THEY’RE NOT POOR YOU FREAKING DUMBASS

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I want one reporter to ask Ken if his ancestors could have cleared that bar. Because we sure as fuck know the Trump family scion couldn’t.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:57:33am

re: #145 Targetpractice

I want one reporter to ask Ken if his ancestors could have cleared that bar. Because we sure as fuck know the Trump family scion couldn’t.

NPR has him on. He was waxing poetic about his Irish and Italian ancestors. Needless to say I was infuriated since the double standard bs piss me off to no end.

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Targetpractice  Aug 13, 2019 • 6:58:37am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

NPR has him on. He was waxing poetic about his Irish and Italian ancestors. Needless to say I was infuriated since the double standard bs piss me off to no end.

His Irish ancestors? The ones for whom the “public charge” regulation was written so as to create an excuse to kick them out?

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:05:10am

re: #141 Belafon

*You and Frank in his garage*
*Fire in the kitchen*
You: Your house is burning down.
Frank: No it isn’t.
*Fire in living room*
You: Yes it is.
Frank: No it isn’t.
*Fire in garage*
Frank: Ok, the house is on fire.
You: Because it took so long, I’m going to stand here and glare while it burns.

When I tripped the breaker on one of the generators on the ship when I was in the Navy, the first job was to get power back online. And then I got relieved of duty.

Primary rule of scuba survival: Resolve the problem
Argue the what whys and hows when you’re back on the boat

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:06:01am

re: #144 Old Liberal

Tripping a breaker isn’t the same as detonating a magazine

Experience talking?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:07:00am

re: #147 Targetpractice

His Irish ancestors? The ones for whom the “public charge” regulation was written so as to create an excuse to kick them out?

Yep. Believe me as someone who has researched his family, nothing more in this era pisses me off than those who insisted they did it right. My Dad’s great grandfather arrived in 1882. Was a citizen by decades end.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:07:03am

re: #145 Targetpractice

I want one reporter to ask Ken if his ancestors could have cleared that bar. Because we sure as fuck know the Trump family scion couldn’t.

“Let’s not revisit the past. This is about our future” /s

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:10:57am
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:11:10am

a neat turn of phrase from an encouraging article

even those who succeed by selling their souls to the devil don’t have the collateral to pull that off twice

nymag.com

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:12:44am

re: #144 Old Liberal

Tripping a breaker isn’t the same as detonating a magazine

Luckily I wasn’t on a ship that was in actual warfare or it wouldn’t have been a good thing at all.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:13:33am

re: #152 The Pie Overlord!

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Glad he’s focused on the important issue of the day- Cuomo. Seriously though? Who the fuck is he to complain about language? Church Lady Trump is the most obnoxious Trump.

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:13:47am

re: #148 DangerMan

Primary rule of scuba survival: Resolve the problem
Argue the what whys and hows when you’re back on the boat

We practiced fire drills a lot on the ship because if your house is burning you can’t get out of it.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:16:57am

re: #156 Belafon

We practiced fire drills a lot on the ship because if your house is burning you can’t get out of it.

And honestly, a fire on a ship at sea has the potential to be a catastrophe of the first magnitude.

Examples such as the Morro Castle and Scandinavian Star spring to mind.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:19:40am
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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:21:15am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

Glad he’s focused on the important issue of the day- Cuomo. Seriously though? Who the fuck is he to complain about language? Church Lady Trump is the most obnoxious Trump.

It’s like he doesn’t have a day job

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:22:49am

re: #156 Belafon

We practiced fire drills a lot on the ship because if your house is burning you can’t get out of it.

Right again
So that the response is instinctual, focused and practical
Everything else can wait

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:23:40am

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

And honestly, a fire on a ship at sea has the potential to be a catastrophe of the first magnitude.

Examples such as the Morro Castle and Scandinavian Star spring to mind.

I read HMS Ulysses as a kid and could not get over the terror of an oil tanker being sunk by a torpedo in the North Sea

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:24:12am

re: #159 DangerMan

It’s like he doesn’t have a day job

His Twitter activity hasn’t changed at all since before he was President.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:25:00am

re: #162 HappyWarrior

His Twitter activity hasn’t changed at all since before he was President.

Except that his Tweets are now official Presidential executive documents.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:27:00am

re: #158 The Pie Overlord!

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We can’t have nice things. I am now a former supporter of red flag laws on guns and current devout opponent. Trump has proven he and his admin will weaponize it for political gain and a way to harm his critics. Who all must be crazy right?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:27:56am
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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:30:31am

re: #158 The Pie Overlord!

Every alarm bell should be ringing right now.

This is an INCREDIBLY dangerous post. This is fascism. This is Gestapo shit, right here.

This is Trump using the power of the office to threaten the rights of those who oppose him.

THIS [is] everything Republicans claim they fear.

on topic, electoral-vote.com this AM has a 4 part mini-series on this very thing

“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain,” because the party’s actions today
have nothing to do with their stated platform, nor the things they’ve been screaming that they were ‘for’ for the last 100 years

it’ll take you 5 minutes to read about
- immigrants
- upward mobility
- regulations
- conservation

the conclusion:

With that said, it is striking how often, and how overtly, the actions of Donald Trump and his administration run contrary to the stated platform of the Party and, more importantly, to the GOP’s longstanding core principles. And we only brought up the things that came up in the last week or so; we didn’t even touch on subjects like the Republicans’ newfound disregard for exploding the deficit, or for reining in Russia, or for partnering with the nation’s longstanding European allies.

So, we conclude where we started: This is a Party with a serious identity problem. They are holding on to some past idea of what the GOP is, at least for “smoke and mirrors” purposes, but they most certainly aren’t that party anymore.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:34:32am

Somebody tell the cops…

Facial recognition software mistook 1 in 5 California lawmakers for criminals, says ACLU.
SACRAMENTO — California Assemblyman Phil Ting has never been arrested, but he was recently mistaken for a criminal.
He’s not surprised.

Ting (D-San Francisco), who authored a bill to ban facial recognition software from being used on police body cameras, was one of 26 California legislators who was incorrectly matched with a mug shot in a recent test of a common face-scanning program by the American Civil Liberties Union.

About 1 in 5 legislators was erroneously matched to a person who had been arrested when the ACLU used the software to screen their pictures against a database of 25,000 publicly available booking photos. Last year, in a similar experiment done with photos of members of Congress, the software erroneously matched 28 federal legislators with mug shots.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:36:53am

re: #166 DangerMan

With that said, it is striking how often, and how overtly, the actions of Donald Trump and his administration run contrary to the stated platform of the Party and, more importantly, to the GOP’s longstanding core principles.

They gave up core principles in order to stay in power

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:37:44am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They gave up core principles in order to stay in power

Assuming they had principles in the first place imo.

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wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:37:53am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They gave up core principles in order to stay in power

Their core principle is to stay in power.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:38:21am

re: #170 wrenchwench

Their core principle is to stay in power.

Oui.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:40:49am

So Curt Schilling is running for Congress in Arizona with Metamussolini’s blessing…

Arizonans! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:43:31am

re: #172 Joe Bacon 🌹

So Curt Schilling is running for Congress in Arizona with Metamussolini’s blessing…

Arizonans! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

JFC.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:44:37am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:46:49am

re: #174 Joe Bacon 🌹

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He might help us bring down McSally.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:52:30am

re: #170 wrenchwench

Their core principle is to stay in power.

Funny, because I have a lot of principles that I would even call “conservative”. I like free markets, personal responsibility and individual initiative.

But I want markets that benefit everyone, not just the major players.

And I want a government that is responsible for its people’s well being. All of them, and not just the big donors.

And as much as I like individual initiative, I have no problem with people banding together to maximize their bargaining power, be that as unions, consumer organizations, political action groups and not just as investors in corporations.

And as for family values, I value families. Families who need strong schools and sound civic organizations in order to thrive. They need a living wage and working conditions that leave time to raise and nurture families and offer our children a chance to succeed.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:53:50am

re: #164 Rightwingconspirator

We can’t have nice things. I am now a former supporter of red flag laws on guns and current devout opponent. Trump has proven he and his admin will weaponize it for political gain and a way to harm his critics. Who all must be crazy right?

they will weaponize anything for political gain (and grift)

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:55:32am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They gave up core principles in order to stay in power

while they keep saying with straight faces, they still have them and “don’t look over there”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:56:59am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Funny, because I have a lot of principles that I would even call “conservative”. I like free markets, personal responsibility and individual initiative.

But I want markets that benefit everyone, not just the major players.

And I want a government that is responsible for its people’s well being. All of them, and not just the big donors.

And as much as I like individual initiative, I have no problem with people banding together to maximize their bargaining power, be that as unions, consumer organizations, political action groups and not just as corporations.

And as for family values, I value families. Families who need strong schools and sound civic organizations in order to thrive. They need a living wage and working conditions that leave time to raise and nurture families and offer our children a chance to succeed.

There’s conservative values and conservative values. One is something people of all political stripes can live under. The other is a bunch of bs that reactionary minded people have been pushing for a long time.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 7:57:03am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Funny, because I have a lot of principles that I would even call “conservative”. I like free markets, personal responsibility and individual initiative.

But I want markets that benefit everyone, not just the major players.

And I want a government that is responsible for its people’s well being. All of them, and not just the big donors.

And as much as I like individual initiative, I have no problem with people banding together to maximize their bargaining power, be that as unions, consumer organizations, political action groups and not just as corporations.

And as for family values, I value families. Families who need strong schools and sound civic organizations in order to thrive. They need a living wage and working conditions that leave time to raise and nurture families and offer our children a chance to succeed.

you dont twist and pervert your principles to achieve something other than their obvious meaning

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:00:20am

re: #179 HappyWarrior

There’s conservative values and conservative values. One is something people of all political stripes can live under. The other is a bunch of bs that reactionary minded people have been pushing for a long time.

To the GOP, Free Markets means that corporations determine the rules of the marketplace.

Personal Responsibility means that if you are a single mother, a disability or any sort of pre-existing condition, that is your own problem.

Individual Initiative means that you as an individual have the right to bargain one-on-one for terms of employment, insurance coverage and financial services with multi-billion-dollar international corporations and banks.

And Family Values means no gay marriage, sex education, contraception and of course DEATH PENALTY FOR ABORTION!!!

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:01:18am

All that ass-kissing for nothing.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:02:09am

re: #182 The Pie Overlord!

All that ass-kissing for nothing.

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Idiot isn’t happy unless he’s being told he’s the best thing ever.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:02:09am

re: #182 The Pie Overlord!

ALL THE NEWS THAT’S NOT FIT TO PRINT! “The New York Times is no longer the paper we grew up with. It is no longer a news organization. It is now an agenda driven organization out to change the Country (for the worse!).” Michael Goodwin, Highly Respected New York Post Columnist.

Why can’t they be more like Fox?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:03:21am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

To the GOP “Free markets” means corporations determine the rules of the marketplace.

Personal Responsibility means that if you are a single mother, or have a pre-existing condition, that is your own problem.

Individual Initiative means that you as an individual have the right to bargain one-on-one for terms of employment, insurance coverage and financial services with multi-billion-dollar international corporations and banks.

and Family Values means no gay marriage, sex education, contraception and of course DEATH PENALTY FOR ABORTION!!!

Right reactionary bs.

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Citizen K  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:08:11am

re: #139 The Pie Overlord!

THEN THEY’RE NOT POOR YOU FREAKING DUMBASS

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I see shit like this, I see the continued weaponizing of the mass shootings not only against policies that would actually prevent more shootings but to further demonize the very people that were victimized during those shootings.

And I wonder if we’ll ever make it to 2020. Everything is fucking going to hell and there may not be anything left worth saving by the time the election comes around.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:10:04am

re: #186 Citizen K

And I wonder if we’ll ever make it to 2020. Everything is fucking going to hell and there may not be anything left worth saving by the time the election comes around.

Trump still has a lot of Presidential aces up his sleeve: he just needs to start a war somewhere and he will see Americans rally around him and critics silenced or marginalized.

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:11:01am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And, if you really want to minimize the need for government, you need to make unions stronger.

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:12:18am

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump still has a lot of Presidential aces up his sleeve: he just needs to start a war somewhere and he will see Americans rally around him and critics silenced or marginalized.

I don’t think he’ll see citizens rally around him. I doubt he’d get much benefit from having an actual attack here.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:13:15am

re: #189 Belafon

I don’t think he’ll see citizens rally around him. I doubt he’d get much benefit from having an actual attack here.

He’s no FDR or even GW Bush. IMO he’s seen his political peak.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:15:40am

I think the country is A) war wary and B) fed up with Trump. TBH the only thing keeping him afloat is the economy isn’t a total shit show.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:20:17am

re: #189 Belafon

I don’t think he’ll see citizens rally around him. I doubt he’d get much benefit from having an actual attack here.

I wish I could share your optimism…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:22:00am

re: #192 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I wish I could share your optimism…

No offense but you were convinced he would start something for the midterms. He’s nowhere near as clever as you make him out to be. We don’t know the future. We can only realistically predict based on what he’s already done and how the populace has responded.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:22:19am

The populace being different than the talking heads.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:22:39am

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump still has a lot of Presidential aces up his sleeve: he just needs to start a war somewhere and he will see 42% of Americans rally around him and critics silenced or marginalized.

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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:23:59am

re: #83 Dr Lizardo

Original trailor for actual movie in 1975

Dolemite (1975, trailer) [Starring Rudy Ray Moore, D’Urville Martin, Lady Reed]

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:24:07am

re: #195 DangerMan

Exactly. He’s sub 50% constantly. He benefited from having HRC as a foil last time and being an empty slate. As an incumbent he’s actually gonna have to defend that record.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:24:58am

re: #188 Belafon

And, if you really want to minimize the need for government, you need to make unions stronger.

the absence of government is not merely a vacuum
it must be other mechanisms that accomplish the same things
(like in theory - charity based initiatives)

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Citizen K  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:25:10am

re: #190 HappyWarrior

He’s no FDR or even GW Bush. IMO he’s seen his political peak.

re: #191 HappyWarrior

I think the country is A) war wary and B) fed up with Trump. TBH the only thing keeping him afloat is the economy isn’t a total shit show.

I don’t think he has to be an FDR or Bush. He just needs to keep stoking the hate and making sure the objects of that hate don’t get to vote. Even if the amount of people who are animated by that hate isn’t as big as it feels, the amount of folks who are too apathetic to stop the hate and the politics/policies animated by it will probably see the day through.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:27:17am

re: #199 Citizen K

I don’t think he has to be an FDR or Bush. He just needs to keep stoking the hate and making sure the objects of that hate don’t get to vote. Even if the amount of people who are animated by that hate isn’t as big as it feels, the amount of folks who are too apathetic to stop the hate and the politics/policies animated by it will probably see the day through.

I’m just not seeing it. But as I say, I need to be half full glass to keep me going so I admit my perception is a little skewed. I’m seeing a weak Trump going into 2020.

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wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:29:31am

re: #200 HappyWarrior

I’m just not seeing it. But as I say, I need to be half full glass to keep me going so I admit my perception is a little skewed. I’m seeing a weak Trump going into 2020.

I’m always looking for a smaller glass to make it work out.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:29:48am

re: #190 HappyWarrior

He’s no FDR or even GW Bush. IMO he’s seen his political peak.

when bush stood on the rubble, it may have been a tad staged
it also seemed (and probably was) totally honest / heartfelt
it was early in his presidency and he didnt have a lot of baggage

we know what trump’s response would be because we’ve already seen it:

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Decatur Deb  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:30:36am

re: #198 DangerMan

the absence of government is not merely a vacuum
it must be other mechanisms that accomplish the same things
(like in theory - charity based initiatives)

Could always deputize and arm the HOAs.

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:30:36am

re: #199 Citizen K

I don’t think he has to be an FDR or Bush. He just needs to keep stoking the hate and making sure the objects of that hate don’t get to vote. Even if the amount of people who are animated by that hate isn’t as big as it feels, the amount of folks who are too apathetic to stop the hate and the politics/policies animated by it will probably see the day through.

LIke in 2018.

I know I keep harping on it, but I sometimes feel like this site gets into its own epistemic closure. I was reading, there are four Democratic candidates lining up to run against Cornyn, including MJ Hegar. It’s not being treated as a throw away position. There’s a lot of work to do, but there are a lot of people being active.

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lawhawk  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:32:11am

Incumbents have tremendous advantages, even if they’re white supremacists and bigots whose racism and bigotry are well documented (see King, Steven; Scalise, Steve; and Trump, Donald).

Trump being underwater in polls is good and all, but look at state level polls only, and once we get down to who Trump actually will face in November 2020, can we begin to truly assess his chances.

After all, WH incumbents have pretty much won all but a handful of times in the past 50 years: Carter, and GHWB being two exceptions.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:32:25am

re: #201 wrenchwench

I’m always looking for a smaller glass to make it work out.

Yes I have a collection of shot glasses. :)

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plansbandc  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:32:37am

Hand woven rug made by 90 years old Elder Alice Begay, Dine

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:33:17am

re: #191 HappyWarrior

I think the country is A) war wary and B) fed up with Trump. TBH the only thing keeping him afloat is the economy isn’t a total shit show.

“…2019’s slowdown in GDP growth has shown that even hundreds of billions in deficit spending combined with trillions in tax cuts and bond buying aren’t enough.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:33:52am

re: #205 lawhawk

Incumbents have tremendous advantages, even if they’re white supremacists and bigots whose racism and bigotry are well documented (see King, Steven; Scalise, Steve; and Trump, Donald).

Trump being underwater in polls is good and all, but look at state level polls only, and once we get down to who Trump actually will face in November 2020, can we begin to truly assess his chances.

After all, WH incumbents have pretty much won all but a handful of times in the past 50 years: Carter, and GHWB being two exceptions.

All true. It’s not gonna be easy. I just am not gonna despair until November 2020. We just gotta keep going.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:35:05am

Things that make you say, “Hmm…..”

Moscow (CNN) - Residents of a Russian village near the site of a suspected explosion of a nuclear-powered missile have been told to evacuate, Russian state news agency RIA-Novosti reported, citing a local official.

Villagers were asked to leave Nyonoksa on Wednesday morning due to planned military activities, RIA reported Tuesday, citing Ksenia Yudina, head of the press service of the Severodvinsk administration.
Local news portal tv29.ru reported that Nyonoksa would be evacuated by train between 5:00 a.m. and 7:00 a.m. Wednesday. The settlement is approximately 30 miles from the port city of Severodvinsk.

edition.cnn.com [note: autoplay video embedded at link]

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:37:25am

re: #196 gocart mozart

Original trailor for actual movie in 1975

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I have the original film on DVD. Definitely one of the better films from the blaxploitation genre, though it obviously suffered from a low budget.

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:37:40am

re: #205 lawhawk

Incumbents have tremendous advantages, even if they’re white supremacists and bigots whose racism and bigotry are well documented (see King, Steven; Scalise, Steve; and Trump, Donald).

Trump being underwater in polls is good and all, but look at state level polls only, and once we get down to who Trump actually will face in November 2020, can we begin to truly assess his chances.

After all, WH incumbents have pretty much won all but a handful of times in the past 50 years: Carter, and GHWB being two exceptions.

GWB was the only president to lose the popular vote and get reelected.

Even though I think everyone knows it, we all repeat there’s still a lot of work to do. But Trump is thrashing because he knows he’s in trouble, and knows that he’ll be in more trouble when he loses. But if we decide we can’t win, that’s how he’ll definitely stay in.

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wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:38:18am

re: #207 plansbandc

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Hand woven rug made by 90 years old Elder Alice Begay, Dine

Brain blankets are better than brain bleach. Roll me up, please.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:39:16am

re: #199 Citizen K

I don’t think he has to be an FDR or Bush. He just needs to keep stoking the hate and making sure the objects of that hate don’t get to vote. Even if the amount of people who are animated by that hate isn’t as big as it feels, the amount of folks who are too apathetic to stop the hate and the politics/policies animated by it will probably see the day through.

Harry Enten: “President Donald Trump’s chief problem heading into the 2020 campaign can be boiled down to ‘like him on the economy, but not overall.’ Aggregating our last three CNN polls, Trump has a 44% approval rating and 52% disapproval rating among voters. On the economy, it’s been the inverse: 53% approval and 42% disapproval.”

“If 2020 turns out to be a referendum on Trump’s overall performance, he’s an underdog. Trump, though, would up his odds significantly by winning over half of the 9% of voters who like him on the economy but not overall — and he would be a clear favorite if he won the votes of all those who approved of him on the economy but not overall.

and that’s never gonna happen because, well have you watched his performance these last three years? he cant all of a sudden ‘pivot’ have it be taken seriously and get an effect that big that fast.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:40:09am

WTFITS

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sagehen  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:40:53am

re: #202 DangerMan

when bush stood on the rubble, it may have been a tad staged
it also seemed (and probably was) totally honest / heartfelt
it was early in his presidency and he didnt have a lot of baggage

we know what trump’s response would be because we’ve already seen it:

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GWB had a professional staff who he listened to, and a VP who knew every single detail of where the levers of government are and how to work them. Trump doesn’t listen to anyone; and even if he did, he’s surrounded himself by people whose only knowledge or skill is sycophancy.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:41:47am

re: #200 HappyWarrior

I’m just not seeing it. But as I say, I need to be half full glass to keep me going so I admit my perception is a little skewed. I’m seeing a weak Trump going into 2020.

he’s underwater in a lot of states he won in 2016
he’s lost ground but is still floating in other states (ie texas)

and he’s made no headway in any close / clinton state

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Decatur Deb  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:42:26am

We’d be in better shape if we hadn’t underestimated Trump and his handlers in 2015. I was always taught never to swing at someone’s nose—always swing for the back of their skull wall.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:42:31am

re: #201 wrenchwench

I’m always looking for a smaller glass to make it work out.

the engineer’s viewpoint: sometimes you have more glass than you need

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:42:39am

re: #217 DangerMan

he’s underwater in a lot of states he won in 2016
he’s lost ground but is still floating in other states (ie texas)

and he’s made no headway in any close / clinton state

Exactly

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:42:59am

re: #215 The Pie Overlord!

WTFITS

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Oh Ivanka just go away.

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lawhawk  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:43:25am
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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:43:46am

re: #203 Decatur Deb

Could always deputize and arm the HOAs.

“Condo Commandos - The Unregulated Militia”

film at 11

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wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:44:39am

re: #221 HappyWarrior

Oh Ivanka just go away.

She leaves with Dad.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:45:45am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

All true. It’s not gonna be easy. I just am not gonna despair until November 2020. We just gotta keep going.

fight till the end like we’re 10 points down, and we won’t be

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:45:46am

re: #222 lawhawk

Nice state you got there

Outside of the urban centers, Florida is the Deepest Deep South there is…

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wrenchwench  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:46:46am

re: #207 plansbandc

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Hand woven rug made by 90 years old Elder Alice Begay, Dine

I wanna see the ones she’s keeping.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:47:44am

re: #223 DangerMan

“Condo Commandos - The Unregulated Militia”

film at 11

Where else would you look for Fremen fanaticism?

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:50:00am

re: #212 Belafon

GWB was the only president to lose the popular vote and get reelected.

Even though I think everyone knows it, we all repeat there’s still a lot of work to do. But Trump is thrashing because he knows he’s in trouble, and knows that he’ll be in more trouble when he loses. But if we decide we can’t win, that’s how he’ll definitely stay in.

one man’s simplistic opinion is that he’s certainly lost some support from folks who couldnt take it and have had enough. And it is highly unlikely that he can win many of them back or turn any significant number of other voters towards him.

this is a much steeper hill than 2016
and yes, keep fighting every day

mrs dm became an interested activist over the weekend when she read about all the election security issues and wondered if her vote is actually ‘counted’ all the way through the process whether in person or by mail

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Decatur Deb  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:50:40am

re: #226 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Outside of the urban centers, Florida is the Deepest Deep South there is…

When we do Dem campaign shit across the border, we relax visibly getting back into Alabama.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:50:51am

re: #215 The Pie Overlord!

WTFITS

Ivanka Trump talking to lawmakers about gun reform legislation: report

making the calls cause no one wants to talk to daddy

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:51:50am

re: #231 DangerMan

making the calls cause no one wants to talk to daddy

or Daddy just doesn’t give a shit.

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lawhawk  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:53:27am

re: #231 DangerMan

making the calls cause no one wants to talk to daddy

Making it appear Trumpworld cares about gun control, when everyone knows that McConnell has already done the NRA business by blocking any action on gun control, and that nothing is getting done without McConnell signing off.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:53:32am

re: #226 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Outside of the urban centers, Florida is the Deepest Deep South there is…

parts of florida are New York South (it’s a law. you have to move after a certain age)
and other parts are just, wow.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:53:58am

re: #210 Dr Lizardo

Things that make you say, “Hmm…..”

edition.cnn.com [note: autoplay video embedded at link]

Things that make you say “Pripyat”. Wouldn’t our monitoring devices have picked up the level of radiation actually released from the accident.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:55:05am

re: #232 Eclectic Cyborg

or Daddy just doesn’t give a shit.

both; right?

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:55:32am

re: #233 lawhawk

Making it appear Trumpworld cares about gun control, when everyone knows that McConnell has already done the NRA business by blocking any action on gun control, and that nothing is getting done without McConnell signing off.

exactly.

who run batertown?

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plansbandc  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:56:03am

re: #222 lawhawk

This is one of those things I never thought I’d see. Florida “wins?” again.

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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:57:51am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:57:51am

re: #233 lawhawk

Making it appear Trumpworld cares about gun control, when everyone knows that McConnell has already done the NRA business by blocking any action on gun control, and that nothing is getting done without McConnell signing off.

We’ve already moved on. It’s Epstein now — gun control is so last week.

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lawhawk  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:58:16am

CHP officer killed, other officers injured, when a suspect pulled over opened fire.

A California Highway Patrol officer was killed and two others were injured after a man driving a truck that was to be impounded opened fire during a traffic stop Monday, starting a gunbattle in which he was also killed, authorities said.

The officer who pulled over the truck was shot but was able to call for assistance, Highway Patrol Assistant Chief Scott Parker said. He was later taken by air ambulance but died from his injuries, Parker said.

Two other highway patrol officers were wounded in the gunbattle, he said.

“It was a long and horrific gunbattle,” Riverside Police Chief Sergio Diaz said at a news conference Monday night.

The shooter’s family said the man was depressed and dealing with medical issues. Red flag? You bet.

Again, cops bear the brunt of easy availability of guns - even in strong gun law states, because they’re dealing with people who may try suicide by cop, have intent to cause mass shootings, domestic violence, and routine traffic stops that can turn into killing fields.

Strong gun control nationally would help improve safety and put teeth into the empty words that “blue lives matter”. Funny how we don’t hear about blue lives mattering unless someone mentions black lives. Weird that. It was always a dodge and deflection from racism and racial discrimination, when the reality is easy availability of guns puts cops in mortal peril.

The easy availability of guns is killing cops. It’s killing thousands across the national every year.

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MsJ  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:58:48am

re: #85 Dr Lizardo

The QAnon grift-a-thon is ramping up big time:

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This particular phenomenon has been monetized and whomever is behind it stands to profit handsomely. Which is why it’s probably still a thing, despite being so utterly ridiculous.

George Papadopoulos ? Seriously? JFC.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:59:53am

re: #196 gocart mozart

Original trailor for actual movie in 1975

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Video

I love blaxploitation pics.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:01:10am

re: #234 DangerMan

parts of florida are New York South (it’s a law. you have to move after a certain age)
and other parts are just, wow.

I remember somebody from Miami saying that the farther north you go in Florida, the more southern things get…

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jeffreyw  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:01:46am

re: #237 DangerMan

exactly.

who run batertown?

The Master..

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:04:57am

re: #126 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

but who will continue to vote for Trump because they believe that he is Making America Great Again

Where do I get the impression that you’re ignoring the polling in agricultural states?

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:05:02am

re: #242 MsJ

George Papadopoulos ? Seriously? JFC.

A fool and his money…..as they say. If I had less morals, if I was willing to be entirely unethical, I could probably reap a small fortune hustling the QAnon rubes.

Rob Halford said it best:

“Out there is a fortune waiting to be had
If you think I’ll let it go you’re mad
You’ve got another thing comin’ “

And here’s a great fan edit for that song, using footage from famous heist films:

Judas Priest - You’ve got another thing comin’

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William Lewis  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:05:29am

I just posted a page. You all might find some humor in it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:06:10am

re: #233 lawhawk

Making it appear Trumpworld cares about gun control, when everyone knows that McConnell has already done the NRA business by blocking any action on gun control, and that nothing is getting done without McConnell signing off.

We know that nothing will be done. Massacres will continue until the guns are turned on the rich. I’ve said this before and I’ll keep saying it—nothing will be done in regards to gun control until someone with an assault rifle kills a significant number of rich people.

The day after that occurs, every Republican in Congress will vote for mandatory gun and bullet confiscation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:08:06am

re: #246 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Where do I get the impression that you’re ignoring the polling in agricultural states?

I lost my ability to be optimistic years ago

I hope I am not correct

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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:09:53am
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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:10:28am
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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:11:03am

Thread

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:14:13am

re: #253 gocart mozart

Thread

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Great read.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:14:26am

re: #249 Joe Bacon 🌹

We know that nothing will be done. Massacres will continue until the guns are turned on the rich. I’ve said this before and I’ll keep saying it—nothing will be done in regards to gun control until someone with an assault rifle kills a significant number of rich people.

The day after that occurs, every Republican in Congress will vote for mandatory gun and bullet confiscation.

Nothing very significant gets done until we either:
A) Nominate and seat enough USSC justices to reverse Heller, or

B) Run a constitutional amendment through Congress and get it ratified by most states.

In other words, after a sea-change in the electorate and a shitload of voter registration and education.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:20:58am

re: #189 Belafon

I don’t think he’ll see citizens rally around him. I doubt he’d get much benefit from having an actual attack here.

DT’s supporters are isolationists. Isolationists hate foreign entanglements. Therefore it’s not a good idea to start a war.

This far into his term, a foreign attack would be “on his watch,” and only the most hardcore of his supporters (17% is the number of US evangelicals) wouldn’t blame him.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:22:34am

re: #241 lawhawk

CHP officer killed, other officers injured, when a suspect pulled over opened fire.

The shooter’s family said the man was depressed and dealing with medical issues. Red flag? You bet.

Again, cops bear the brunt of easy availability of guns - even in strong gun law states, because they’re dealing with people who may try suicide by cop, have intent to cause mass shootings, domestic violence, and routine traffic stops that can turn into killing fields.

Strong gun control nationally would help improve safety and put teeth into the empty words that “blue lives matter”. Funny how we don’t hear about blue lives mattering unless someone mentions black lives. Weird that. It was always a dodge and deflection from racism and racial discrimination, when the reality is easy availability of guns puts cops in mortal peril.

The easy availability of guns is killing cops. It’s killing thousands across the national every year.

forward the story to ivanka. she’s on it, apparently

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:25:51am

re: #243 Joe Bacon 🌹

I love blaxploitation pics.

and the music
- superfly
- shaft
etc

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:26:11am

re: #244 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember somebody from Miami saying that the farther north you go in Florida, the more southern things get…

exactly so

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:26:39am

re: #245 jeffreyw

The Master..

oops…. ;-)

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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:26:40am
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William Lewis  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:27:13am

re: #253 gocart mozart

Thread

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I would argue that Jordan Peterson is the most harmful of them out there right now. His ability to sound normal while spewing evil is extremely dangerous.

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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:27:37am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:28:07am

re: #258 DangerMan

and the music
- superfly
- shaft
etc

This from Black Caesar:

James Brown - Down and out in New York City - (Black Caesar, 1973 - OST)

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Decatur Deb  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:31:21am

re: #263 gocart mozart

Didn’t get the last emphatic Spanish expression. Pretty sure it wasn’t “cabron”.

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MsJ  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:31:41am

re: #129 Old Liberal

Maybe missed it here….
Anyone see that Frank Luntz has “changed his mind” about climate change because his house in CA almost burned down? He spent the last 20 years promoting denial and now he want bygones to be bygones. Wasted 20 fucking years with his bullshit. We’re gonna see a lot of “let’s not focus on the past” from all these fuckers.

Fuck Luntz. This is the least egregious of his many, many sins.

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Chrysicat  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:32:44am

I know, I know—responding to a 26-hour-old comment here, but I only now finally am secure from a series of narcoleptic episodes.
re: #277 The Pie Overlord!

WTFITS

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And now let’s see what fresh hells the last day and a half have brought.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:32:45am

Interesting article on Jehovah’s Witnesses. I know some Christian groups do not consider them to be Christian but they seem to be more tolerant than the evangelicals about others, and except for their fanaticism about blood, they don’t reject modern medicine.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:34:20am

re: #255 Decatur Deb

Nothing very significant gets done until we either:
A) Nominate and seat enough USSC justices to reverse Heller, or

B) Run a constitutional amendment through Congress and get it ratified by most states.

In other words, after a sea-change in the electorate and a shitload of voter registration and education.

and that is such a long, far and heavy lift that until then my opinion is that we concede everything:
- the current, bizarre interpretation of the 2A
- bans
- databases
- mandatory training and retraining
- insurance

instead focus on:
- “control your weapons at all times” as the only thing that matters
- lose your freedom, finances and future 2A rights when you don’t
- ‘control’ includes temporary or permanent sale, trade, transfer, or loan

because:
- every right comes with responsibilities
- the goal is to cull those who demonstrate they cannot or will not control their weaponry at all times (which will never be you, right?)

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:36:07am

re: #261 gocart mozart

Here’s acting USCIS director Ken Cuccinelli saying on NPR this morning that the Statue of Liberty plaque should be changed to read, “give me your tired and your poor who can stand on their own two feet, and who will not become a public charge.”

in case no one’s said it. Ken:

if they can stand on their own two feet THEY’RE NOT FUCKING POOR

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:36:42am

re: #266 MsJ

Fuck Luntz. This is the least egregious of his many, many sins.

Let’s remember: it’s not as though Frank Luntz has a real ideology or believed in anything. He’s a gun for hire who hitched himself to the Republican party, not because he cared about anything (except maybe tax cuts for the wealthy).

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Decatur Deb  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:37:45am

re: #269 DangerMan

and that is such a long, far and heavy lift that until then my opinion is that we concede everything:
- the current, bizarre interpretation of the 2A
- bans
- databases
- mandatory training and retraining
- insurance

instead focus on:
- “control your weapons at all times” as the only thing that matters
- lose your freedom, finances and future 2A rights when you don’t
- ‘control’ includes temporary or permanent sale, trade, transfer, or loan

because:
- every right comes with responsibilities
- the goal is to cull those who demonstrate they cannot or will not control their weaponry at all times (which will never be you, right?)

Take half a loaf, if it serves the need. I’m so liberal I know it would probably be a bad thing if I ever got everything I want.

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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:38:41am
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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:39:11am
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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:39:47am

This is lol

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gwangung  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:39:57am

re: #271 Hecuba’s daughter

Let’s remember: it’s not as though Frank Luntz has a real ideology or believed in anything. He’s a gun for hire who hitched himself to the Republican party, not because he cared about anything (except maybe tax cuts for the wealthy).

I don’t approach it as a binary. You can still give measured approval, but still remind them of their past misdeeds.

Think of it as operant conditioning, and you’re training a bad puppy.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:45:12am

re: #276 gwangung

I don’t approach it as a binary. You can still give measured approval, but still remind them of their past misdeeds.

Think of it as operant conditioning, and you’re training a bad puppy.

As dog_rates always says, they are good dogs. Puppies don’t understand the rules. Think of Frank as being a cat (Sorry cat people — I’m a dog person!) — only his comfort matters; he may have an intellectual understanding of the rules, but he doesn’t care.

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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:45:46am
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sagehen  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:49:24am

re: #268 Hecuba’s daughter

Interesting article on Jehovah’s Witnesses. I know some Christian groups do not consider them to be Christian but they seem to be more tolerant than the evangelicals about others, and except for their fanaticism about blood, they don’t reject modern medicine.

They don’t pledge the flag, because it’s idolatry.
They don’t vote because… okay, I’m confused about the why for this one, even after having it explained to me repeatedly, but it’s real. They don’t vote.

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TedStriker  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:50:03am

re: #244 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember somebody from Miami saying that the farther north you go in Florida, the more southern things get…

West of Tallahassee, it’s South Alabama (don’t get me wrong, I love driving down to PCB every chance I get, but outside the PCB city limits northward, it’s a whole lotta nothing between it and Dothan); east of Tallahassee and north of Orlando, it’s South Georgia (I suppose you could also say that about the interior of the Panhandle that’s ringed by Orlando, Tampa, Miami and the other Panhandle coastal cities as well, especially in and around the Everglades).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:50:51am

re: #256 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

DT’s supporters are isolationists. Isolationists hate foreign entanglements. Therefore it’s not a good idea to start a war.

This far into his term, a foreign attack would be “on his watch,” and only the most hardcore of his supporters (17% is the number of US evangelicals) wouldn’t blame him.

Unless of course it was related to a terror attack on US soil

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William Lewis  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:53:59am

re: #268 Hecuba’s daughter

Interesting article on Jehovah’s Witnesses. I know some Christian groups do not consider them to be Christian but they seem to be more tolerant than the evangelicals about others, and except for their fanaticism about blood, they don’t reject modern medicine.

Their courage in the face of Nazi and Communist oppression deserves to be remembered as well.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:55:59am

JFC

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:56:46am

re: #261 gocart mozart

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A reminder to all: the message on the Statue of Liberty was aspirational and usually not practiced— think of the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1882, the Johnson-Reed Act of 1924, the refusal to admit those fleeing Hitler. Cuccinelli is only repeating what we’ve been in the past and that Trump wants to restore: a white supremacist nation that doesn’t care about others.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:57:22am

re: #276 gwangung

I don’t approach it as a binary. You can still give measured approval, but still remind them of their past misdeeds.

Think of it as operant conditioning, and you’re training a bad puppy.

I think of him as a pit bull with several bites on his sheet.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:00:43am

Eli is out of Twitter jail! Sadly Vicious Babushka was executed.

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gwangung  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:02:54am

re: #285 Decatur Deb

I think of him as a pit bull with several bites on his sheet.

Well, individual cases vary….and you have to train some dogs more harshly than others…but remember that they’re potentially trainable if they’ve changed their behavior.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:03:12am

re: #286 The Pie Overlord!

Eli is out of Twitter jail! Sadly Vicious Babushka was executed.

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Glad he’s back. Sure hope he told 19th Century Fox to drop dead!

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MsJ  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:03:41am

re: #288 Joe Bacon 🌹

Glad he’s back. Sure hope he told 19th Century Fox to drop dead!

They’d use it anyway. It’s not like they care about legal or anything.

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lawhawk  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:04:25am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:05:12am

re: #287 gwangung

Well, individual cases vary….and you have to train some dogs more harshly than others…but remember that they’re potentially trainable if they’ve changed their behavior.

He’s taking up space that could go to a Golden Retriever puppy.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:08:30am

just finished postcards for Dr. Jenn Rager-Kay for State House Rep, District 85 in PA

Special Election August 20

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:09:31am

re: #290 lawhawk

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The dumbass Qwazy Qs will be stupid enough to still give him $$$$ when he pulls the same stunt again!

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:13:57am

re: #292 DangerMan

just finished postcards for Dr. Jenn Rager-Kay for State House Rep, District 85 in PA

Special Election August 20

I just had a thought: There needs to be some kind of way to target college kids next year, to register, and to not only go out to vote, but where to go.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:15:16am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:16:00am
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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:20:05am

re: #296 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

When dealing with Trump on this, I often think back to an interview he did after nominating Pence for VP. After criticizing HIllary for her support of the invasion of Iraq, he was asked by the person interviewing him if that criticism applied to Pence, and Trump said no, it doesn’t.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:24:11am

re: #283 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

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Trump argues his retweet of a @w_terrence tweet suggesting the Clintons murdered Jeffrey Epstein “was fine” because Williams is “a highly respected conservative pundit. A big Trump fan. And that was a retweet … he’s a man who has half a million followers

Look up asshat in any dictionary.
It’ll be a picture of trump

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:24:38am

He can’t shut the fuck up. If any actual intelligence officers are still in this govt doing their actual professional jobs they wouldn’t tell him shit.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:24:54am

re: #283 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

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Otoh that is a clear view into how he thinks

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:25:06am

re: #299 The Pie Overlord!

He can’t shut the fuck up. If any actual intelligence officers are still in this govt doing their actual professional jobs they wouldn’t tell him shit.

[Embedded content]

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:25:20am

he doesn’t play to the most ignorant and morally lowest in american society

he is the most ignorant and morally lowest in american society

that’s his secret - he’s 100% genuine

100% genuinely a low, immoral, ignorant swine

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:25:31am
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Chrysicat  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:26:50am
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lawhawk  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:26:57am

re: #303 The Pie Overlord!

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:27:12am

re: #302 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

he doesn’t play to the most ignorant and morally lowest in american society

he is the most ignorant and morally lowest in american society

that’s his secret - he’s100% genuine

100% genuinely a low, immoral, ignorant swine

He’s the ultimate outcome of what happens when an ignorant, mediocre white man is given every possible advantage in life.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:28:15am

re: #284 Hecuba’s daughter

A reminder to all: the message on the Statue of Liberty was aspirational and usually not practiced— think of the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1882, the Johnson-Reed Act of 1924, the refusal to admit those fleeing Hitler. Cuccinelli is only repeating what we’ve been in the past and that Trump wants to restore: a white supremacist nation that doesn’t care about others.

While true, being self contradictory in the span of once sentence is still asshattery

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lawhawk  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:28:37am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:30:39am

re: #303 The Pie Overlord!

Adam Parkhomenko

@AdamParkhomenko
Because you’re dumb as fuck, generally clueless and have a real hard time standing up for people who want freedom.

Trump was totally on board with the Tiananmen Square massacre.
He won’t criticize because he supports this action.

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MsJ  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:31:29am
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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:33:45am

re: #309 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump was totally on board with the Tiananmen Square massacre.
He won’t criticize because he supports this action.

Because, dear leader, prior to your presidency, one of the important things the US did, flawed as it was, was stand up for freedom of others. You have ended that, and there will be consequences.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:35:48am

Still teaching this tablet that “asshattery” is a word, is properly spelled, and I’m gonna have to keep using it for a while at least

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:38:52am

re: #311 Belafon

Because, dear leader, prior to your presidency, one of the important things the US did, flawed as it was, was stand up for freedom of others. You have ended that, and there will be consequences.

One day he’s gonna be dead
And all his supporters will be dead
And there won’t be anyone left to keep claiming bestest president ever

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Chrysicat  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:40:24am

As soon as I saw “barstool” trending, I knew it had to be that idiot website. There’s a reason I stick with SBNation.

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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:44:08am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:46:16am

re: #309 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump was totally on board with the Tiananmen Square massacre.
He won’t criticize because he supports this action.

Because you are a grade A enabler.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:47:12am

re: #311 Belafon

Because, dear leader, prior to your presidency, one of the important things the US did, flawed as it was, was stand up for freedom of others. You have ended that, and there will be consequences.

He’s a dictator lover. Maduro should have praised him. I’m old enough to remember when he pretended to care about Venezuela.

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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:51:47am

Thread

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:52:28am

Look at this bullshit.

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lawhawk  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:53:40am

Trump now tweeting Jimmy O’Keefe - he of the OBL crossing a waterway and who should have gone to jail for interfering in the operations of a US Senate office.

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lawhawk  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:59:21am

He wasn’t even born when Waco happened. Where was he radicalized and wants to kill cops? How did he manage to get an arsenal like this? What of his parents?

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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:59:56am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:02:00am

re: #319 The Pie Overlord!

Look at this bullshit.

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God this is such pathetic bs.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:03:01am

re: #320 lawhawk

Trump now tweeting Jimmy O’Keefe - he of the OBL crossing a waterway and who should have gone to jail for interfering in the operations of a US Senate office.

[Embedded content]

How dare newspapers not think your favorite President isn’t the best thing ever to happen to America.//

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:03:47am
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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:04:38am

while i dont know what to make of this, i wouldnt be at all pleased if i were team trump

Trump’s State-by-State Approval Ratings Are Dismal

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:07:25am

re: #325 The Pie Overlord!

Whoa!

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:07:43am

re: #318 gocart mozart

Thread

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to take a little poetic license with what i posted this AM:

With that said, it is striking how often, and how overtly, the actions of Donald Trump and his administration the entire republican party for the last 30-40 or more years run contrary to the stated platform of the Party and, more importantly, to the GOP’s longstanding [stated] core principles.

it may be ‘striking’
it’s no longer ‘surprising’

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:08:00am

re: #299 The Pie Overlord!

He can’t shut the fuck up. If any actual intelligence officers are still in this govt doing their actual professional jobs they wouldn’t tell him shit.

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Intel officers? Shit, I read that first thing this morning on Reddit, about 14 hours ago.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:08:29am

re: #322 gocart mozart

What racism? Trump Jr, is talking about racism by someone who isn’t her father? Please!

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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:09:21am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:09:47am

re: #326 DangerMan

while i dont know what to make of this, i wouldnt be at all pleased if i were team trump

Trump’s State-by-State Approval Ratings Are Dismal

Yep. TBH I’d ask a variation of the Reagan question to the country. Are you more proud to be an American now than you were four years ago.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:15:07am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:17:08am

re: #321 lawhawk

He wasn’t even born when Waco happened. Where was he radicalized and wants to kill cops? How did he manage to get an arsenal like this? What of his parents?

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The Feds are charging him for making threats online. I wonder if Ohio will get around to charging him for being in illegal possession of the 10 handguns. And, if they’ll be charging whoever provided them to him. Can’t have a handgun under 21 in Ohio, and can’t sell of furnish one to anyone under 21 either.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:17:08am

re: #326 DangerMan

while i dont know what to make of this, i wouldnt be at all pleased if i were team trump

Trump’s State-by-State Approval Ratings Are Dismal

A lot can happen between now and the election. During a lunchtime walk with my manager in the summer of 1991, he repeated the conventional wisdom that Bush 41 was a shoe-in after the success of our first Gulf War — none of the well known Democrats were willing to take him on. My reply to him was that things can change. Fast forward to November 1992 — my, how the landscape was transformed. Who knows what will be going on in November 2020, especially with Russian assistance?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:17:23am

The argument for Bernie to non-Bernie fans: Berniebros won’t vote for anyone else, but regular Democrats will vote for Bernie if he is the nominee.

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Citizen K  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:20:13am

re: #336 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The argument for Bernie to non-Bernie fans: Berniebros won’t vote for anyone else, but regular Democrats will vote for Bernie if he is the nominee.

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So basically Berniebros are holding the nomination hostage and we hate to comply or else?

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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:21:40am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:22:36am

re: #337 Citizen K

So basically Berniebros are holding the nomination hostage and we hate to comply or else?

I know at least one person who refuses to vote for Bernie. This is ridiculous but BernieBots are indistinguishable from the Trump cult. Once again he is out to destroy the Democratic party.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:23:50am

It’s not a joke any more. He really expects to become “President For Life”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:24:53am

re: #337 Citizen K

So basically Berniebros are holding the nomination hostage and we hate to comply or else?

Yes and I fully expect a chunk of them to vote for Tulsi when she gets the green nomination!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:25:35am

re: #335 Hecuba’s daughter

A lot can happen between now and the election. During a lunchtime walk with my manager in the summer of 1991, he repeated the conventional wisdom that Bush 41 was a shoe-in after the success of our first Gulf War — none of the well known Democrats were willing to take him on. My reply to him was that things can change. Fast forward to November 1992 — my, how the landscape was transformed. Who knows what will be going on in November 2020, especially with Russian assistance?

With a good economy Trump is still 11 points underwater because he can’t stop being a corrupt racist degenerate. So I think he can only go downhill.

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:26:04am

re: #336 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The argument for Bernie to non-Bernie fans: Berniebros won’t vote for anyone else, but regular Democrats will vote for Bernie if he is the nominee.

They’re not part of the people we have to get to the polls anyway.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:27:18am

re: #56 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

My parents are pissed at how this tumble in the British pound has hurt their pensions. Looks like they’re in for more hurt on that front. Sigh.

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:27:26am

re: #342 NO SMOCKING GUN!

With a good economy Trump is still 11 points underwater because he can’t stop being a corrupt racist degenerate. So I think he can only go downhill.

He’s starting to wear on the economy. When that gains momentum, watch out.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:28:34am

re: #337 Citizen K

So basically Berniebros are holding the nomination hostage and we hate to comply or else?

Basically yes. It will be something I have to think about when I vote in the primary next May if Bernie still has a realistic shot at the nomination. Trump must not win a second term.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:29:14am

re: #340 The Pie Overlord!

It’s not a joke any more. He really expects to become “President For Life”

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He needs to be stopped.

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:30:31am

It seems that Trump has delayed some tariffs: cnbc.com

Trump had announced in early August that he would slap 10% tariffs on the remaining $300 billion worth of Chinese goods that had so far avoided import duties. The White House has already imposed tariffs on $250 billion worth of imports from China.

China, which had already put retaliatory tariffs on $110 billion worth of U.S. imports, responded to the most recent threat by canceling all purchases of U.S. agriculture products.

The White House’s move to back off on the hard and fast date for the new tariffs came as a sigh of relief for markets, which have been increasingly on edge amid the intensifying trade war between Beijing and Washington. Major indexes, which had been trading in the red before the market open, shot up on the news.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:30:43am

re: #342 NO SMOCKING GUN!

With a good economy Trump is still 11 points underwater because he can’t stop being a corrupt racist degenerate. So I think he can only go downhill.

Agreed. I’m sorry but I’m sick of the cynicism. I’m not trying to be a Pollyanna here but I think we were so shell shocked by 2016 that we expect the worst. We should prepare for it obviously.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:30:53am

re: #334 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The Feds are charging him for making threats online. I wonder if Ohio will get around to charging him for being in illegal possession of the 10 handguns. And, if they’ll be charging whoever provided them to him. Can’t have a handgun under 21 in Ohio, and can’t sell of furnish one to anyone under 21 either.

that is how we start to make headway

‘control your weapon at all times’ includes any transfer to another person, temporary or permanent

it’s your gun. if you loan, give it away or sell it without checking whether the other person is allowed to possess, whatever happens is on you. you didnt take reasonable care and lost control. you’ve demonstrated you arent responsible.

your future (criminal), your finances (civil), your future 2A rights (gone)

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sagehen  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:31:02am

re: #344 Patricia Kayden

My parents are pissed at how this tumble in the British pound has hurt their pensions. Looks like they’re in for more hurt on that front. Sigh.

Did they vote Leave or Remain?

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:33:11am

Remember the kid who won $3M playing Fortnite? He got swatted:

The teen who took home $3 million after winning the Fortnite World Cup last month was swatted while streaming the video game from his home.

Kyle “Bugha” Giersdorf, 16, was nearing the end of a match Saturday in Fortnite Arena Trios, when he suddenly abandoned his keyboard.

“Did he just leave mid-game?” another gamer could be heard asking.

Off-camera, Giersdorf was heard speaking with his father, saying, “I’ve been swatted.”

In a Facebook post, the Upper Pottsgrove Township Police Department said officers were dispatched after a call was received about a possible shooting. The caller, pretending to be Giersdorf, claimed that he had killed his father and tied up his mother.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:33:25am

re: #335 Hecuba’s daughter

A lot can happen between now and the election. During a lunchtime walk with my manager in the summer of 1991, he repeated the conventional wisdom that Bush 41 was a shoe-in after the success of our first Gulf War — none of the well known Democrats were willing to take him on. My reply to him was that things can change. Fast forward to November 1992 — my, how the landscape was transformed. Who knows what will be going on in November 2020, especially with Russian assistance?

oh totally with an early barrel of salt

im still gonna love that there’s no good news for the red team (right now)

and fight like we’re 10 points down

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:34:30am

Prepare for the worst, expect the best.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:35:22am

re: #353 DangerMan

oh totally with an early barrel of salt

im still gonna love that there’s no good news for the red team (right now)

and fight like we’re 10 points down

Indeed. They haven’t had positive news in awhile. Even with Biden’s fuck ups, he’s still beating Trump in most polls as are the others.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:35:25am

re: #336 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The argument for Bernie to non-Bernie fans: Berniebros won’t vote for anyone else, but regular Democrats will vote for Bernie if he is the nominee.

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ie blackmail

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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:37:24am
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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:38:13am
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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:38:18am

re: #340 The Pie Overlord!

It’s not a joke any more. He really expects to become “President For Life”

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he’s likely meet a disinterested coronary before his wet dream comes true

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:39:57am

re: #336 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The argument for Bernie to non-Bernie fans: Berniebros won’t vote for anyone else, but regular Democrats will vote for Bernie if he is the nominee.

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or: non-bros are more politically savvy than bernie’s supporters

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:41:09am

re: #357 gocart mozart

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She’s tougher than I thought. My dream tickets right now are Warren-Castro or Harris-O’Rourke. Liz is tougher than I thought.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:41:45am

re: #348 Belafon

It seems that Trump has delayed some tariffs: cnbc.com

the market sure speaks clearly when he touches tariffs.

he ought to listen like it’s EF Hutton talking.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:43:52am

re: #340 The Pie Overlord!

It’s not a joke any more. He really expects to become “President For Life”

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You cannot believe anything out of his lying mouth. He is doing this to incite his base. He wants to distract us from his environmental policies and Epstein and gun massacres and …. It is a Gish Gallop to keep us from focusing on what is important.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:46:50am

re: #362 DangerMan

the market sure speaks clearly when he touches tariffs.

he ought to listen like it’s EF Hutton talking.

He does know that the only thing he has to offer is a strong economy. He will abandon all tariffs in order to keep unemployment low and the stock market high. It’s not as though he has any real principles to abandon.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:47:08am

re: #355 HappyWarrior

Indeed. They haven’t had positive news in awhile. Even with Biden’s fuck ups, he’s still beating Trump in most polls as are the others.

they’re making biden’s way of talking into a thing.
it’s not.
inartful? sure
a bit anachronistic? yup
malicious? i dont think so. certainly not leading to punitive or dangerous legislation

im not excusing it. only perspective. and we shouldnt help this.

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William Lewis  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:48:16am

re: #361 HappyWarrior

She’s tougher than I thought. My dream tickets right now are Warren-Castro or Harris-O’Rourke. Liz is tougher than I thought.

I’m liking the Warren-Buttigieg combo more and more. I’d really rather see both Castro & O’Rourke in the senate.

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Ming5000  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:48:19am

OMG, Trump’s comments about HK and China.
His hard drive is skipping…..

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:48:55am

JFC

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:49:40am

re: #363 Hecuba’s daughter

You cannot believe anything out of his lying mouth. He is doing this to incite his base. He wants to distract us from his environmental policies and Epstein and gun massacres and …. It is a Gish Gallop to keep us from focusing on what is important.

there will be an election next year
he will lose (if we do it right)
end. <———————— that’s a full stop there.

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:52:00am

re: #366 William Lewis

I’m liking the Warren-Buttigieg combo more and more. I’d really rather see both Castro & O’Rourke in the senate.

To quote another Texan(dailykos.com):

Beto is not going to run for Senate, so please move on.

We have lots of great candidates running for Senate here (in the order they announced):
•MJ Hegar mjfortexas.com
•Amanda Edwards amandafortexas.com
•Royce West roycewest.com
•Cristina Tzintzún Ramirez cristinafortexas.com

Plus, some others. Please educate yourself and support one of the great candidates who is, in fact, running for Senate.

I’m in for Hegar. I still think Beto’s strong place would be VP.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:52:13am

re: #367 Ming5000

OMG, Trump’s comments about HK and China.
His hard drive is skipping…..

[Embedded content]

an idiot trying to sound intelligent and not realizing that no one’s buying it

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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:53:53am
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Skip Intro  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:54:21am

re: #371 DangerMan

an idiot trying to sound intelligent and not realizing that no one’s buying it

60+ million people are.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:54:22am
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:55:10am

Mike nails it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:55:19am

re: #366 William Lewis

I’m liking the Warren-Buttigieg combo more and more. I’d really rather see both Castro & O’Rourke in the senate.

We need a PoC imo. And I really like Beto’s humanity. I really think Julian or Beto could help us in the SW ie Texas and Arizona. I think Hegar could beat Cornyn.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:56:01am

re: #367 Ming5000

OMG, Trump’s comments about HK and China.
His hard drive is skipping…..

[Embedded content]

Oh just shut up you shitty James Joyce stream of consciousness bullshit artist.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:56:28am

re: #368 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

[Embedded content]

He’s even stupider than I thought then.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:57:08am

re: #373 Skip Intro

60+ million people are.

they voted for him sure
when i say ‘buying it’ - how many could find Hong Kong on a map or explain the current situation?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:57:15am

re: #370 Belafon

To quote another Texan(dailykos.com):

I’m in for Hegar. I still think Beto’s strong place would be VP.

Beto or Julian would be great for VP. Their Spanish fluency and personalities could really help in your neck.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:58:02am

re: #375 The Pie Overlord!

Mike nails it.

[Embedded content]

Yep.

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:59:37am

re: #380 HappyWarrior

Beto or Julian would be great for VP. Their Spanish fluency and personalities could really help in your neck.

I give a slight edge to Beto over Julian in campaigning in Texas because of Beto’s run last year. I don’t think Latinos will need a Latino to get out the vote, just someone who takes them seriously.

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 12:00:27pm

But I believe both of them will be canvassing the state hard next year, no matter who’s actually the nominee.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 12:01:31pm

re: #377 HappyWarrior

Oh just shut up you shitty James Joyce stream of consciousness bullshit artist.

When mrs. dm and i were courting in 2008 (a long long story) we lived 1500 miles apart.
She commuted on a subway. We didnt see each other a lot so it was all phone, email, etc. She would send emails that were one long run on paragraph. She’d hold on to a pole with one hand, the blackberry with the other and type with her thumb. I said her style reminded me of jack kerouac. it stuck. We’ve been jack and danger ever since.

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lawhawk  Aug 13, 2019 • 12:01:48pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 12:01:55pm

re: #382 Belafon

I give a slight edge to Beto over Julian in campaigning in Texas because of Beto’s run last year. I don’t think Latinos will need a Latino to get out the vote, just someone who takes them seriously.

True. I do like that Julian has the Washington and exec experience that said.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 12:02:25pm

re: #383 Belafon

But I believe both of them will be canvassing the state hard next year, no matter who’s actually the nominee.

Oh absolutely. They’ll be instrumental.

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DangerMan  Aug 13, 2019 • 12:03:00pm

re: #382 Belafon

I give a slight edge to Beto over Julian in campaigning in Texas because of Beto’s run last year. I don’t think Latinos will need a Latino to get out the vote, just someone who takes them seriously.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 13, 2019 • 12:03:23pm

re: #384 DangerMan

When mrs. dm and i were courting in 2008 (a long long story) we lived 1500 miles apart.
She commuted on a subway. We didnt see each other a lot so it was all phone, email, etc. She would send emails that were one long run on paragraph. She’d hold on to a pole with one hand, the blackberry with the other and type with her thumb. I said her style reminded me of jack kerouac. it stuck. We’ve been jack and danger ever since.

It’s always the same stupid bs, we’re watching, we’ll see. No one says more by saying less than Trump if you catch my drift.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 13, 2019 • 12:06:42pm

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 13, 2019 • 12:16:48pm

re: #375 The Pie Overlord!

Mike nails it.

[Embedded content]

I detest Pompeo and Bolton with the fire of a thousand suns, but would bombs-away Bolton actually stand idly by while China invades Taiwan or Putin invades Ukraine or Kim invades South Korea? It’s more likely we will end up in some devastating conflict that ends the world.

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Chrysicat  Aug 13, 2019 • 12:43:58pm

re: #340 The Pie Overlord!

It’s not a joke any more. He really expects to become “President For Life”

[Embedded content]

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Decatur Deb  Aug 13, 2019 • 2:14:45pm

re: #384 DangerMan

When mrs. dm and i were courting in 2008 (a long long story) we lived 1500 miles apart.
She commuted on a subway. We didnt see each other a lot so it was all phone, email, etc. She would send emails that were one long run on paragraph. She’d hold on to a pole with one hand, the blackberry with the other and type with her thumb. I said her style reminded me of jack kerouac. it stuck. We’ve been jack and danger ever since.

Did she ever send you a love-letter on a roll of teletype paper ?


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