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1
teleskiguy  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:09:36pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:12:35pm
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retired cynic  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:14:22pm

re: #2 gocart mozart

That has got to be a rare find.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:21:58pm

Let’s try this angle.

I’d like to report witnessing molestation of a lady I respect immensely. Lady Liberty. The attacker is named Ken Cucinelli. He should be ashamed of himself.

cbsnews.com

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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:34:44pm

So this is the video. The only thing I object to is him saying it’s like the n-word which is stupid but I’ll cut slack because it was in the heat of the moment. “Punk ass bitch” is more accurate.

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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:35:30pm
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BigPapa  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:37:06pm

AM radio yakkers have been on the Cuomo Fredo video all day.

This is all they have. It’s a nut for their squirrel minds.

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danarchy  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:41:40pm

re: #5 gocart mozart

So this is the video. The only thing I object to is him saying it’s like the n-word which is stupid but I’ll cut slack because it was in the heat of the moment. “Punk ass bitch” is more accurate.

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Don’t have a problem with the Punk ass bitch or the swearing, but threatening to throw someone down the stairs because they called you stupid seems a little extreme. I’d think as a very public figure you would learn to let that shit roll off your back.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:43:35pm

Trumps wants to drug test fired employees to deny them unemployment benefits. Some will register a false positive, then be without any means to support themselves and their families.

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BigPapa  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:43:38pm

re: #9 danarchy

Don’t have a problem with the Punk ass bitch or the swearing, but threatening to throw someone down the stairs because they called you stupid seems a little extreme. I’d think as a very public figure you would learn to let that shit roll off your back.

He lost his shit a little bit. Gonna have to tighten it up. Not saying it’s right, but I understand.

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mmmirele  Aug 13, 2019 • 8:57:43pm

re: #10 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Trumps wants to drug test fired employees to deny them unemployment benefits. Some will register a false positive, then be without any means to support themselves and their families.

The cruelty, it’s the POINT.

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austin_blue  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:05:41pm

re: #10 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Trumps wants to drug test fired employees to deny them unemployment benefits. Some will register a false positive, then be without any means to support themselves and their families.

Poppy seed bagels are a bitch.

And yes, it has happened.

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Scout  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:21:36pm

“If they come for the innocent without stepping over your body, cursed be your religion and your life.”

- Philip Berrigan

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gocart mozart  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:24:47pm
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austin_blue  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:24:50pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

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That’s spectacular! Roll wave?

And the mammatus cloud forms are a bonus.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:25:01pm

re: #10 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Trumps wants to drug test fired employees to deny them unemployment benefits. Some will register a false positive, then be without any means to support themselves and their families.

Unemployment is a state matter.

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William Lewis  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:26:20pm

re: #14 Scout

“If they come for the innocent without stepping over your body, cursed be your religion and your life.”

- Philip Berrigan

Sword in one hand, revolver in the other; a shot of whiskey and my prayer book at hand. I’m a fundamentalist’s nightmare walking.

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austin_blue  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:27:48pm

re: #17 Dread Pirate

Unemployment is a state matter.

Normally, yes. But is he trying to extending this to Fed employees?

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austin_blue  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:29:12pm

re: #14 Scout

“If they come for the innocent without stepping over your body, cursed be your religion and your life.”

- Philip Berrigan

A priest with a serious set of brass balls.

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:46:33pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

ALIENS!

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Belafon  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:49:00pm

re: #10 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Trumps wants to drug test fired employees to deny them unemployment benefits. Some will register a false positive, then be without any means to support themselves and their families.

I can’t wait to administer the drug test in Trump on 1/21/21.

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Mattand  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:52:37pm

So a guy on a friend’s FB feed is trying to make the case on why we need access to assault weapons. I chime in at one point and ask what defines a well-regulated militia in the 21st century, as the few assault weapons enthusiasts I encounter are all flying solo.

Guy writes back saying be thankful we don’t need a militia (whatever the fuck that means.)

I write back saying if we don’t need militias, we don’t need the 2nd Amendment, as the whole militia thing is right there in the text.

Crickets, unsurprisingly.

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vgranucci  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:52:39pm

re: #17 Dread re: #17 Dread Pirate

Unemployment is a state matter.

IIRC, the underlying law is Federal (part of the Social Security Act), but is administered by the states.

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teleskiguy  Aug 13, 2019 • 9:59:14pm

Aw, damn it! This was right down the road from me, tonight! I would have just said to him “Shame on you for the $3.5 million you’ve taken from the NRA, you should give it back! More guns isn’t the answer! Shame on you!” and then sat down.

A woman I follow on Twitter was there.

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austin_blue  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:13:16pm

Another day in America, with Drumpf (kidding!), that he should cancel the 2020 elections and run for a third term.

Fuck my life.

Night all, limited nightmares.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:26:10pm

Just a reminder how sleazy Ken Kookynelly is!

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teleskiguy  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:33:11pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 13, 2019 • 10:49:45pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:11:42pm

Amazing to see the Screw York Times demote their DC stenographer, er, “editor”…

The New York Times on Tuesday demoted deputy Washington editor Jonathan Weisman following a series of questionable tweets about people of color.

Times spokesperson Eileen Murphy told TPM that Weisman had met with executive editor Dean Baquet and apologized for “his recent serious lapses in judgment.”

“As a consequence of his actions, he has been demoted and will no longer be overseeing the team that covers Congress or be active on social media,” Murphy said. “We don’t typically discuss personnel matters but we’re doing so in this instance with Jonathan’s knowledge.”

Weisman stoked anger with his tweets last week when he implied certain nonwhite members of Congress didn’t count as true Midwesterners or Southerners because their districts included major cities. He also demanded author Roxane Gay give him an “enormous apology” after she called him out for his ignorant tweets about a black congressional candidate.

Criswell Bacon predicts that he knows who will be showing up on FAUX and FIENDS tomorrow morning to whine about how the “liberal” New York Times hurt his fee-fees. And that will be followed by yet another tweet barrage from Metamussollini!

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:34:56pm

ICE office shootings in Texas blamed on ‘political rhetoric’

Several shots were fired at around 03:00 local time (08:00 GMT) on Tuesday at the offices in San Antonio….
In a statement, ICE blamed the shootings on “political rhetoric” and “misinformation” about the Trump administration’s detention policies….

Oddly enough, mental illness was not considered as a factor.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:50:06pm

I’m looking at the stock futures and I don’t think anyone has a clue what is going on. Flip a coin every day and you can match the markets.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 13, 2019 • 11:51:28pm

re: #32 Dread Pirate

I’m looking at the stock futures and I don’t think anyone has a clue what is going on. Flip a coin every day and you can match the markets.

Because the markets cannot cope with the chaotic and random actions of a clueless President.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 14, 2019 • 12:46:01am

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How markets respond to stochastic stimuli is something that one can probably chase for a long time in Google scholar.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 14, 2019 • 12:54:32am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2019 • 12:58:18am

re: #34 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

How markets respond to stochastic stimuli is something that one can probably chase for a long time in Google scholar.

It is hard enough to predict an individual’s response, but herd reactions are truly random.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 14, 2019 • 1:21:10am

I reckon it’s only a matter of days before Hong Kong’s chief executive, Carrie Lam, calls on Beijing to send in the PLA.

Hong Kong’s real estate billionaires are calling for an end to massive protests that have crippled local businesses and paralyzed the city’s international airport.

Swire Pacific (SWRAY), one of Hong Kong’s richest family-owned business empires, issued a strongly worded statement on Tuesday. The company condemned “illegal activities and violent behavior” and threw its support behind Hong Kong’s beleaguered government.

“Swire Pacific is deeply concerned by the ongoing violence and disruption impacting Hong Kong,” the company said in a statement, offering its full support for Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam and the city’s police “in their efforts to restore law and order.”

The company’s CEO is billionaire Merlin Swire. The family’s business empire dates back more than 200 years and has had roots in Hong Kong for much of that time. It owns luxury hotels, office towers and high-end shopping malls in the city.

edition.cnn.com [autoplay video embedded at link]

I saw that the HK government got an injunction against protests at the airport, so for the time being, a degree of normalcy has returned. We’ll have to wait and see if the protesters decide to challenge that court ruling - or what other protest actions they may have up their sleeves.

But Lam is under pressure, that’s for sure. And not just from Beijing, either.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 14, 2019 • 1:47:31am
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 14, 2019 • 1:52:19am

re: #10 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Trumps wants to drug test fired employees to deny them unemployment benefits. Some will register a false positive, then be without any means to support themselves and their families.

How about drug testing the multimillionaires who got that huge tax cut?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2019 • 2:11:47am

re: #39 Patricia Kayden

How about drug testing the multimillionaires who got that huge tax cut?

The onion had this nailed years ago

Drugs Now Legal If User Is Employed

“If you are paying taxes and keeping your yard tidy, we’re not going to hassle you if you come home from a hard day of work and want to enjoy a little pot or blow. But if, on the other hand, you’re one of these lazy, shiftless types hanging out on the street all day looking for your next high, we’re coming after you.”

The new law, which goes into effect May 1, will enable police departments and courts to focus on what Hutchinson called “the real drug offenders.”

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 14, 2019 • 2:24:53am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2019 • 2:28:20am

re: #41 Ace-o-aces

That’s weird. “Voter ID” stopped trending as soon as it hit lunchtime in Russia.

In Russia, as in many other countries in Europe, everyone has a registered primary address. If you are a citizen, registering your address automatically puts you on the voter rolls for your voting district. You just have to show up with your (mandatory) ID, vote, and your name is crossed off the list.

Amazing how well a system like that can work.

So how come we can’t have nice things?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 2:44:29am

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In Russia, as in many other countries in Europe, everyone has a registered primary address. If you are a citizen, registering your address automatically puts you on the voter rolls for your voting district. You just have to show up with your (mandatory) ID, vote, and your name is crossed off the list.

Amazing how well a system like that can work.

So how come we can’t have nice things?

Hi.

a) Christians who think a mandatory ID card is the “mark of the beast.”
b) If everyone who is of age gets to vote, then the “wrong people” also get to vote.
c) Homeless people don’t have addresses, which was the big thing which prevented me from voting between 1996 and 2010.

Aside from that, elections are run by states.

The citizen question still turns up all the problems we have here, as in proving it. States where Jim Crow laws prevented minorities from registering births, the cost of obtaining those documents even if they exist, &c.

For example, when we moved here, although Nebraska doesn’t have a mandatory voter ID law, you have to prove citizenship to register. The state would not accept I was previously registered in Oklahoma, even though voter registration laws are stricter there. They would not accept my birth certificate from Michigan, because of an arbitrary decision the county seal was too worn (I had to pay for another copy of my birth certificate).

It was worse for my wife: Because she’s been married three times, the state required copies of each divorce decree to show the changes in her name from that shown on her birth certificate. That required getting certified copies from Colorado and Oklahoma (and they don’t give those out free either).

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 14, 2019 • 2:48:04am

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹🎃

It was worse for my wife: Because she’s been married three times, the state required copies of each divorce decree to show the changes in her name from that shown on her birth certificate. That required getting certified copies from Colorado and Oklahoma (and they don’t give those out free either).

JFC, I didn’t need that level of ID for my fucking mortgage.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2019 • 2:49:37am

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹🎃

All rhetorical questions.

But the entire discussion of Voter ID could be solved by a few simple and relatively inexpensive measures. Ones that we will never adopt for the reasons you listed.

And in Germany, you need to show your registered address to enroll your kids in school, apply for social services, open a bank account, register a car, apply for a driver’s license, etc., making it a lot harder for undocumented aliens to get established.

The relative ease with which undocumented workers can get established in America once they have safely made it past the border is one of the things that makes this country so attractive.

But we are going to spend our time initiating half-measures that just kick the can down the road without solving the root issues and spin down a sinkhole of rhetoric and counter-rhetoric.

PS: I just got a friendly reminder from the local authorities that my passport is about to expire and I need a valid one to remain a resident in Germany. I would have overlooked that entirely until I tried to board an airplane or cross a non-EU border at some point…

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 2:51:07am

re: #19 austin_blue

Normally, yes. But is he trying to extending this to Fed employees?

Unemployment for federal employees is still administered by states.
oui.doleta.gov

The Unemployment Compensation for Federal Employees program provides benefits for eligible unemployed former civilian Federal employees. The program is administered by States as agents of the Federal government. This program is operated under the same terms and conditions that apply to regular State Unemployment Insurance (see State Unemployment Insurance). In general, the law of the State in which your last official duty station in Federal civilian service was located will be the State law that determines eligibility for unemployment insurance benefits.

(more at the Department of Labor)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 2:59:53am

re: #45 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

All rhetorical questions.

I agree, particularly the religious question. However, religion runs our government policy, Constitution be damned.

And in Germany, you need to show your registered address to enroll your kids in school, apply for social services, open a bank account, register a car, apply for a driver’s license, etc., making it a lot harder for undocumented aliens to get established.

That would be a very simple way to lock the homeless out of society. You can’t vote (that’s already a problem here), no banking (any direct deposit payments you’re due can’t be paid), registering and driving a car (already problems here because if you’re busted driving a car at your last registered address they’ll take your car and ticket you, and your car might also be your home), no school for your kids (or they’ll just take ‘em), &c.

I don’t want conservative-run states having that kind of power over the homeless: Been there, done that.

The relative ease with which undocumented workers can get established in America once they have safely made it past the border is one of the things that makes this country so attractive.

ID is not what makes the country attractive, and it can be faked anyway.

But we are going to spend our time initiating half-measures that just kick the can down the road without solving the root issues and spin down a sinkhole of rhetoric and counter-rhetoric.

Yes. We will. For all the reasons I noted above (religious people, making sure the right people don’t vote, Constitutional mandate for states to run the vote) we won’t get a system that ensures everyone who can vote are registered. (The Constitutional bar is the hardest. Count to thirteen conservative states opposed to an amendment and it fails.)

PS: I just got a friendly reminder from the local authorities that my passport is about to expire and I need a valid one to remain a resident in Germany. I would have overlooked that entirely until I tried to board an airplane or cross a non-EU border at some point…

You should get on that early, since conservatives have been cutting State department employees and it takes longer to renew a passport.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2019 • 3:14:14am

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🎃

That would be a very simple way to lock the homeless out of society. You can’t vote (that’s already a problem here), no banking (any direct deposit payments you’re due can’t be paid), registering and driving a car (already problems here because if you’re busted driving a car at your last registered address they’ll take your car and ticket you, and your car might also be your home), no school for your kids (or they’ll just take ‘em), &c.

I don’t want conservative-run states having that kind of power over the homeless: Been there, done that.

You should get on that early, since conservatives have been cutting State department employees and it takes longer to renew a passport.

Homeless can register with their local authorities and still vote.

It is not a way of locking them out of society. It just a way of curbing abuse of social services, registering voters and ensuring the delivery of official warrants and documents, as you cannot pretend not to live at the address to which they have been delivered by registered mail.

Any ID can be faked.

My replacement US passport process took less than a week to get an appointment and another two weeks for it to be delivered.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 3:27:43am

re: #48 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Homeless can register with their local authorities and still vote.

It is not a way of locking them out of society. It just a way of curbing abuse of social services, registering voters and ensuring the delivery of official warrants and documents, as you cannot pretend not to live at the address to which they have been delivered by registered mail.

Any ID can be faked.

My replacement US passport process took less than a week to get an appointment and another two weeks for it to be delivered.

On the passport, that’s good. As I understand it, passports issued overseas are issued by the American Embassy or Legation in that place.

Here, when my wife and I applied for passports, it took three months. (No appointment required, but locally you have to apply at the county courthouse.)

As for homeless people here, I guarantee you that any system employed here would ensure homeless people couldn’t vote.

The only reason I had a bank account was I’d opened one before I was homeless, so I maintained that bank account. Had I not had one, I would not have been allowed to open one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2019 • 3:40:27am

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹🎃

On the passport, that’s good. As I understand it, passports issued overseas are issued by the American Embassy or Legation in that place.

Here, when my wife and I applied for passports, it took three months. (No appointment required, but locally you have to apply at the county courthouse.)

I am lucky to live near the US consulate in Frankfurt.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 3:42:22am

The New York Times in 1887 weighing in on a judicial decision decrying having to accept the “human dregs” of other countries in our immigration policy, as it related to Irish immigrants at the time.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 3:46:39am

Note in that NYT article from 1887 above that the same complaints made then are those which conservatives are making now, namely that “the country is full” and most Irish immigrants would become “public charges.”

Conservatives have never changed their stances on immigration, even using the same terminology.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 14, 2019 • 3:49:35am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 3:50:00am

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am lucky to live near the US consulate in Frankfurt.

germany.info

The nearest German consulate to me is farther than the Canadian border.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2019 • 3:58:58am

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹🎃

germany.info

The nearest German consulate to me is farther than the Canadian border.

Advantages to living in a country the size of Oregon and Indiana put together

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 3:59:10am

For a second time Ken Cuccinelli went on CNN to “explain” the Emma Lazarus poem, denying he’d changed it even when his own words were quoted back to him. He also asserted the poem only applies to people from Europe.

rawstory.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2019 • 4:00:22am

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹🎃

For a second time Ken Cuccinelli went on CNN to “explain” the Emma Lazarus poem, denying he’d changed it even when his own words were quoted back to him. He also asserted the poem only applies to people from Europe.

rawstory.com

Do not let him deny it or rationalize or relativize it, that fucker is ANTI-AMERICAN

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 4:03:40am

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹🎃

For a second time Ken Cuccinelli went on CNN to “explain” the Emma Lazarus poem, denying he’d changed it even when his own words were quoted back to him. He also asserted the poem only applies to people from Europe.

rawstory.com

It’s bullshit. People were coming to Ellis Island from the Middle East even then. Southeast Asia less so because of the notorious Chinese Exclusion Act but also because well geography.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 4:04:28am

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Do not let him deny it or rationalize or relativize it, that fucker is ANTI-AMERICAN

He harassed UVA climate change researchers as our AG. I’m unfortunately very familiar with Coochy as is TP.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 4:06:22am

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Do not let him deny it or rationalize or relativize it, that fucker is ANTI-AMERICAN

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Thanos  Aug 14, 2019 • 4:19:51am

Here’s a new Q-bot/ 8channer to add to your block lists: @BoomerRang16

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 4:28:12am

re: #61 Thanos

There is a whole lot of crazy in that account. Conservatives trying to make “Fredo” a slur still I see.

Lots of people identifying as Christians in that account as well (but I’m told I shouldn’t be afraid of people who identify that way).

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 4:32:52am

Trump Hates The F*ckin’ Eagles, Man (goes to Wonkette, an explainer of our new libertarian overloards’ changes to the Endangered Species Act, since what’s really endangered is corporate profits)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 4:39:43am

Wingnut preacher Rick Joyner says the left is the cause of the resurgence of white supremacy.

A lot of these folks are discounted as “who cares what they think” or “they don’t have a large audience.” In fact a lot of them do have a large audience, and you should never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of conservative preachers hurtling down the highway.

(Goes to Utah Outcasts, caution for coarse language and magic four-letter words which upset religious people, 9:53)

Rick Joyner Blames the Left For Resurgence of White Supremacy

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2019 • 4:58:48am

re: #64 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Wingnut preacher Rick Joyner says the left is disobedient wives are the cause of the resurgence of white supremacy spouse abuse.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:03:32am

re: #65 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Wingnut preacher Rick Joyner says the left is disobedient wives are single payer healthcare is the cause of the resurgence of white supremacy spouse abuse.

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Targetpractice  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:04:26am

“People coming from Europe.”

Does anybody wanna remind Ken that his ideological predecessors were the ones who argued that Jews fleeing persecution needed to be sent back to Germany?

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jeffreyw  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:08:13am

Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:09:32am

re: #67 Targetpractice

“People coming from Europe.”

Does anybody wanna remind Ken that his ideological predecessors were the ones who argued that Jews fleeing persecution needed to be sent back to Germany?

They’re fine with that today.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:14:33am

re: #68 jeffreyw

That’s a kewl photo of a bird in flight.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:17:01am

re: #67 Targetpractice

“People coming from Europe.”

Does anybody wanna remind Ken that his ideological predecessors were the ones who argued that Jews fleeing persecution needed to be sent back to Germany?

He’s also wrong. There were Christian immigrants from the Ottoman Empire coming to Ellis Island.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:22:05am

re: #71 HappyWarrior

He’s also wrong. There were Christian immigrants from the Ottoman Empire coming to Ellis Island.

But they were Christians, and part of the Ottoman Empire was in Europe. Checkmate, liberal. /s

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Belafon  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:22:38am

re: #67 Targetpractice

“People coming from Europe.”

Does anybody wanna remind Ken that his ideological predecessors were the ones who argued that Jews fleeing persecution needed to be sent back to Germany?

Ken: Is that a problem?

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Targetpractice  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:23:57am

re: #73 Belafon

Ken: Is that a problem?

It generally is in a party that’s trying to insist that it’s the defenders of the “Judeo-Christian faith.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:24:33am

Pay Less Attention to Jeffrey Epstein’s Death and More to What His Accusers Need Now (Goes to Glamour Magazine)

Molly Jong-Fast goes after conspiracy theorists both left and right about Jeffery Epstein’s death, because all of them leave out the victims of his alleged sex trafficking ring.

She quotes a few people who say they are frustrated with all the conspiracy theorists over his suicide, regardless of political leanings as “heartless.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:29:20am

re: #74 Targetpractice

It generally is in a party that’s trying to insist that it’s the defenders of the “Judeo-Christian faith.”

Exactly

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Mescalero09  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:32:43am
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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:36:18am

re: #17 Dread Pirate

Unemployment is a state matter.

part of UI benefits (FUTA) are collected by the feds and funneled to the states

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:37:56am

re: #23 Mattand

So a guy on a friend’s FB feed is trying to make the case on why we need access to assault weapons. I chime in at one point and ask what defines a well-regulated militia in the 21st century, as the few assault weapons enthusiasts I encounter are all flying solo.

Guy writes back saying be thankful we don’t need a militia (whatever the fuck that means.)

I write back saying if we don’t need militias, we don’t need the 2nd Amendment, as the whole militia thing is right there in the text.

Crickets, unsurprisingly.

not to mention that whole pesky federalist 29 “Concerning the Militia”

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Targetpractice  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:39:19am

Much like Constitutional limits and restrictions, the GOP have become a party that is shitting all over the very heritage they claim to be all about. Now it’s a nativist out there declaring that immigrants who made this country were men of means who arrived on these shores with money and jobs waiting for them. But I suppose it’s not surprising when they saw nothing wrong with selling American passports to Chinese businessmen for the cost of an “investment” into Jared Kushner’s crumbling real estate empire.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:39:36am

re: #76 HappyWarrior

Exactly

Hunting down the origins of that term using Wikipedia [citation needed], I come up with this.

The term is used, as “Judæo Christian”, at least as far back as in a letter from Alexander McCaul dated October 17, 1821. The term in this case referred to Jewish converts to Christianity. The term is used similarly by Joseph Wolff in 1829, referring to a style of church that would keep with some Jewish traditions in order to convert Jews.

Use of the German term Judenchristlich (“Jewish-Christian”), in a decidedly negative sense, can be found in the late writings of Friedrich Nietzsche, who emphasized what he saw as neglected aspects of continuity between the Jewish world view and that of Christianity.

The concept of Judeo-Christian ethics or Judeo-Christian values in an ethical (rather than theological or liturgical) sense was used by George Orwell in 1939, with the phrase “the Judaeo-Christian scheme of morals.”

Theologian and author Arthur A. Cohen, in The Myth of the Judeo-Christian Tradition, questioned the theological validity of the Judeo-Christian concept and suggested that it was essentially an invention of American politics.

In Christian faiths, Jews, atheists, and many Christians understand it as a dogwhistle meaning two things:

a) We need Jews in Israel to die in a fiery Armageddon according to our holy book
b) We’ll strap on Jews to our political ideology to impose a theocratic state, primarily to deflect charges of antisemitism.

Edit: Muslim, Hindus, and members of other minority faiths understand that as an attempt to exclude them from society.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:50:46am

re: #80 Targetpractice

Much like Constitutional limits and restrictions, the GOP have become a party that is shitting all over the very heritage they claim to be all about. Now it’s a nativist out there declaring that immigrants who made this country were men of means who arrived on these shores with money and jobs waiting for them. But I suppose it’s not surprising when they saw nothing wrong with selling American passports to Chinese businessmen for the cost of an “investment” into Jared Kushner’s crumbling real estate empire.

When didn’t they do that? They’re just more open about it now.

The GOP has been arguing against immigration and birthright citizenship all my life. They’ve been doing the same with their claim “immigrants are coming for your jerbs!”

Selling access for anything (including immigration) is a centuries-old tradition for conservatives.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:51:59am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Hunting down the origins of that term using Wikipedia [citation needed], I come up with this.

In Christian faiths, Jews, atheists, and many Christians understand it as a dogwhistle meaning two things:

a) We need Jews in Israel to die in a fiery Armageddon according to our holy book
b) We’ll strap on Jews to our political ideology to impose a theocratic state, primarily to deflect charges of antisemitism.

Edit: Muslim, Hindus, and members of other minority faiths understand that as an attempt to exclude them from society.

Dude I know it’s a dog whistle. The point TP is making is they claim that they care about the welfare of the Jewish people as brothers in religious arms yet history is filled with them discriminating against Jewish refugees whether from the Russian empire or Nazi Germany. And tbh the really extreme racists resent people like me too as we see in the UK.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:53:06am

re: #23 Mattand

So a guy on a friend’s FB feed is trying to make the case on why we need access to assault weapons. I chime in at one point and ask what defines a well-regulated militia in the 21st century, as the few assault weapons enthusiasts I encounter are all flying solo.

Guy writes back saying be thankful we don’t need a militia (whatever the fuck that means.)

I write back saying if we don’t need militias, we don’t need the 2nd Amendment, as the whole militia thing is right there in the text.

Crickets, unsurprisingly.

He missed the wingnut ammosexual argument that a “well-regulated militia” means you keep your firearms in proper working order.

He needs to get the latest NRA talking points.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:54:34am

re: #83 HappyWarrior

I know, I was just restating the obvious. I do that sometimes.

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steve_davis  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:54:59am

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because the markets cannot cope with the chaotic and random actions of a clueless President.

this is the problem with computer driven trade and with the enormous amount of stock held by mutual funds and various ETF’s. People aren’t really making decisions: computers are programmed to buy or sell based on things that happened in the Chinese exchange, or in Europe. And I’m heavily invested in either Dow components, or things that hold Dow components (Berkshire) which means in oversimplified fashion, if the Dow is down 400 points, I’m down 400 points.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:58:56am

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Advantages to living in a country the size of Oregon and Indiana put together

There goes that “Americans measure shit using anything but metric” again.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 5:59:20am

re: #85 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I know, I was just restating the obvious. I do that sometimes.

It’s all good.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:00:10am

re: #86 steve_davis

this is the problem with computer driven trade and with the enormous amount of stock held by mutual funds and various ETF’s. People aren’t really making decisions: computers are programmed to buy or sell based on things that happened in the Chinese exchange, or in Europe. And I’m heavily invested in either Dow components, or things that hold Dow components (Berkshire) which means in oversimplified fashion, if the Dow is down 400 points, I’m down 400 points.

Berkshire? As in Berkshire Hathaway? As in Warren Buffett, who supports his son in Cochise County, Ariz. running a border militia and defoliating the border in his property to keep “those” people out?

Or is that a different Berkshire?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:01:53am

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Advantages to living in a country the size of Oregon and Indiana put together

But how many Rhode Islands is that? /s

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:08:20am

re: #87 Colère Tueur de Lapin

There goes that “Americans measure shit using anything but metric” again.

I cannot tell you how many square miles/kilometers America occupies, but I have a mental image of how big Oregon and Indiana are.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:09:21am

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I cannot tell you how many square miles/kilometers America occupies, but I have a mental image of how big Oregon and Indiana are.

They are both larger than breadboxes, and bigger than ping pong ball sized hail.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:09:33am

re: #31 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

ICE office shootings in Texas blamed on ‘political rhetoric’

Several shots were fired at around 03:00 local time (08:00 GMT) on Tuesday at the offices in San Antonio….
In a statement, ICE blamed the shootings on “political rhetoric” and “misinformation” about the Trump administration’s detention policies….

Oddly enough, mental illness was not considered as a factor.

The shots came from inside………………. FALSE FLAG!!!!!!!!

(Do I really need sarcasm tags?)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:10:06am

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Berkshire? As in Berkshire Hathaway? As in Warren Buffett, who supports his son in Cochise County, Ariz. running a border militia and defoliating the border in his property to keep “those” people out?

My ex-GF married a fellow and moved to Douglas, Arizona, back when it was a quiet bakwater in the 1980’s (sort of like the folks in No Country for Old Men).

I have heard that he has since joined the border militia and built a 30-foot “observation tower” on their property.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:10:38am

re: #77 Mescalero09

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Lol the power of editing.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:15:25am

re: #95 Rightwingconspirator

Lol the power of editing.

Someone linked to the whole clip in that tweet, from “Last Week Tonight” (4:26)

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Salmon Cannon (HBO)

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lawhawk  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:19:38am

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹🎃

The salmon cannon. It isn’t what we wanted, but it is what we needed.

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Belafon  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:21:38am

Because Democrats can’t worry about voting only the year elections happen:

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:23:18am

In markets news:

European equities and US futures dropped on Thursday, fueled by rising fears of a German recession and worrisome developments across Hong Kong, Italy, and Argentina. Asian markets rallied earlier on renewed hopes for an end to the US-China trade war.

Germany shrunk 0.1% in the second quarter, a sharp swing from first-quarter growth of 0.4%. The contraction reflected weakness in its auto industry, concerns about the UK’s departure from the EU, and the toll of the US-China trade war on its export-focused manufacturing sector, according to the Financial Times.

“The risk of a recession is now elevated,” Claus Vistesen, chief eurozone economist at Pantheon Macroeconomics, said in a morning note.

Germany’s bad news came after Argentina’s currency, stock market, and government bonds plummeted earlier this week following an election upset.

Italy is also in turmoil as Matteo Salvini seeks to bring down its coalition government. the Senate intends to discuss the deputy prime minister’s motion of no confidence next week.

Moreover, Chinese industrial output rose by an estimated 4.8% in July — its slowest growth rate since February 2002, according to Reuters.

markets.businessinsider.com

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lawhawk  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:25:34am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area, where a petition has reached 70,000 signatories requesting that Fifth Avenue in NYC be renamed Barack Obama Ave along a stretch of the street. Yeah, that stretch - the one where Trump’s Tower is located.

Meanwhile, ABC has studied violent acts and criminal cases and couldn’t find any where the perpetrator blamed GWB or Obama for inspiring their violence. Rather, they found 36 acts where Trump was specifically named as inspiring them to act.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:29:23am

Rod Rosenstein quoting the First Lady Birther on civility (that good ol’ call from conservatives to avoid talking about subjects they don’t like)

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:32:05am

re: #98 Belafon

Because Democrats can’t worry about voting only the year elections happen:

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She is so well-spoken, sharp as a razor.

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Jay C  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:34:33am

re: #101 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Americans want less yelling and more reasoning.

O RLY, Rod?

Then how come we elected (and c 40% of “us” still support) a loudmouthed know-nothing like Donald Trump as President?

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Belafon  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:36:26am

re: #102 Rightwingconspirator

She is so well-spoken, sharp as a razor.

Well, she writes romance novels. :)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:36:41am

re: #101 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Rod Rosenstein quoting the First Lady Birther on civility (that good ol’ call from conservatives to avoid talking about subjects they don’t like)

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Surprised to see Hannity defending Cuomo but he’s fine with Trump encouraging harassment so fuck em. Oh and Melania can stfu considering her husband.

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Belafon  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:37:55am

re: #101 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Rod Rosenstein quoting the First Lady Birther on civility (that good ol’ call from conservatives to avoid talking about subjects they don’t like)

“If we would only go back to the time when racism was done under the table, by denying loans to blacks, or shorting wages to Mexicans. Except my husband, of course.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:38:45am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:41:01am

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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They will give him less airtime because his show has become predictable and boring. That’s death for any sitcom.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:42:02am

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🎃

None of the three cable networks or any of the three CSPAN stations are carrying Trump’s speech in Pennsylvania

— Manu Raju

DEPLATFORMING! ILLEGAL!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:42:15am

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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Why should they? It’s always the same pathetic screed.

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Belafon  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:43:05am

re: #109 Sir John Barron

DEPLATFORMING! ILLEGAL!!!!!

Hitler never would have made it big time if TV hadn’t carried his rallies!

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Sir John Barron  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:43:56am

re: #101 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Rod Rosenstein quoting the First Lady Birther on civility (that good ol’ call from conservatives to avoid talking about subjects they don’t like)

Hadn’t realized Rowdy Rod was on the Twitter machine. He’s about as good at it as he was in the DOJ.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:44:19am

re: #108 Decatur Deb

They will give him less airtime because his show has become predictable and boring. That’s death for any sitcom.

Trump speech: brag, whine, lie, incite, stream of consciousness bullshit, and repeat.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:45:34am

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Was this the same non-campaign speech where he whined about China, and Obama, and everything else, and talked about how great he was?

You know, like every speech.

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b.d.  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:45:37am

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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Because it’s CSPAN, not KlanSPAN

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Sir John Barron  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:48:48am

re: #31 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

ICE office shootings in Texas blamed on ‘political rhetoric’

Several shots were fired at around 03:00 local time (08:00 GMT) on Tuesday at the offices in San Antonio….
In a statement, ICE blamed the shootings on “political rhetoric” and “misinformation” about the Trump administration’s detention policies….

Oddly enough, mental illness was not considered as a factor.

Amazing that is.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:49:28am

re: #114 Sir John Barron

Was this the same non-campaign speech where he whined about China, and Obama, and everything else, and talked about how great he was?

You know, like every speech.

He’s referring to the Pennsylvania speech where Trump took credit for a Shell Oil decision which took place under the Obama Administration.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:49:52am

re: #108 Decatur Deb

They will give him less airtime because his show has become predictable and boring. That’s death for any sitcom.

Also, Trump really has nothing to say. It’s pretty much just incoherent ranting at this point.

It’s the “President Old Man Yells At Clouds” show, and it’s getting stale.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:50:33am

re: #116 Sir John Barron

Amazing that is.

Shocker.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:51:00am

re: #104 Belafon

Well, she writes romance novels. :)

Oh? This is gonna be good. Never mess with a writer.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:51:24am

re: #118 Dr Lizardo

Also, Trump really has nothing to say. It’s pretty much just incoherent ranting at this point.

It’s the “President Old Man Yells At Clouds” show, and it’s getting stale.

It’s boring as hell. He’s a fucking lame ass.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:51:50am

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I cannot tell you how many square miles/kilometers America occupies, but I have a mental image of how big Oregon and Indiana are.

You have an idea of their size from certain projections. Unless you’re comparing their size on the Robinson world projection or others that are idealized for such comparisons, your size ideas are wrong.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:51:51am

re: #116 Sir John Barron

Amazing that is.

From the article, it would appear they haven’t caught the shooter yet, so they can’t say whether it’s mental illness (white), thuggery (black), terrorism (Muslim), or politically-motivated (liberal).

ICE and police need time to investigate to determine the population group motivation.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:51:54am

So, I’m doing some online tutoring to pick up some extra $$$. And as I’ve noticed, many of those I speak to are from mainland China.

So I have to be a bit cautious in talking about current events.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 6:54:46am

re: #122 Colère Tueur de Lapin

You have an idea of their size from certain projections. Unless you’re comparing their size on the Robinson world projection or others that are idealized for such comparisons, your size ideas are wrong.

Or a Goode Homolosine Projection.

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MsJ  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:00:09am
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MsJ  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:03:25am

trump in meltdown mode in 3…2…1…

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lawhawk  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:04:18am

re: #126 MsJ

He’s doing a campaign rally, and calling it a presidential speech. Those have specific meanings for purposes of election law (and compensating for costs incurred).

Not that Trump cares.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:05:59am

re: #128 lawhawk

He’s doing a campaign rally, and calling it a presidential speech. Those have specific meanings for purposes of election law (and compensating for costs incurred).

Not that Trump cares.

Trump’s only concern about laws is how he get around them.

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plansbandc  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:06:27am

re: #12 mmmirele

Add sadist to the long list of the fat orange tyrant’s reprehensible traits.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:08:09am

re: #67 Targetpractice

“People coming from Europe.”

Does anybody wanna remind Ken that his ideological predecessors were the ones who argued that Jews fleeing persecution needed to be sent back to Germany?

Grandma Bacon remembered when Billy Sunday and his ilk said that along with Charles Lindbergh. Grandma HATED Lindbergh and she actually cheered when she read the paper and saw that he died.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:11:27am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:12:30am

re: #128 lawhawk

He’s doing a campaign rally, and calling it a presidential speech. Those have specific meanings for purposes of election law (and compensating for costs incurred).

Not that Trump cares.

I remember how many wingnuts were screeching that President Obama’s public speeches were campaign rallies or political in nature, and he should pay for them (or be hauled off to jail).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:12:55am

re: #122 Colère Tueur de Lapin

You have an idea of their size from certain projections. Unless you’re comparing their size on the Robinson world projection or others that are idealized for such comparisons, your size ideas are wrong.

fortunately, they all lie at about the same longitude

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:15:33am

bbc.com
A$AP Rocky has been found guilty of assault in Sweden. He was given a suspended sentence and ordered to pay damages to the victim. He is on probation for two years.

ASAP Rocky and his co-defendants claimed they had been acting in self-defence against two men who had been following their group.

But the court said the three were “not in a situation where they were entitled to self-defence” and wrote in its verdict that they “assaulted the victim by hitting and kicking him as he lay on the ground.

“The artist has also thrown the victim to the ground and stepped on his arm.”

(more)

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lawhawk  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:15:55am

Swedish court finds A$AP Rocky guilty of assault for role in Stockholm street brawl.

What that actually means isn’t exactly clear since he is now back in the US. How will the Swedish authorities make him pay restitution?

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MsJ  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:16:01am

Comforting. [insert eyeroll here]

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MsJ  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:16:39am

re: #136 lawhawk

Swedish court finds A$AP Rocky guilty of assault for role in Stockholm street brawl.

What that actually means isn’t exactly clear since he is now back in the US.

Likely he cannot go back to Sweden for a couple of years. His sentence was suspended.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:16:53am

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

fortunately, they all lie at about the same longitude

45°W is really a lie, Sheeple! They don’t want you to know the truth!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:20:04am

re: #137 MsJ

Comforting. [insert eyeroll here]

There’s a virtual certainty that the markets will take a giant dump as long as Pumpkin Pinochet is in office.

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Sea Mexican  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:20:07am

re: #14 Scout

“If they come for the innocent without stepping over your body, cursed be your religion and your life.”

- Philip Berrigan

I’m having a tad of a problem sourcing this quote … I’m getting an unknown from here, and a Dorothy Day from here and here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:20:57am

re: #136 lawhawk

Swedish court finds A$AP Rocky guilty of assault for role in Stockholm street brawl.

What that actually means isn’t exactly clear since he is now back in the US. How will the Swedish authorities make him pay restitution?

It means he will not be touring Sweden any time in the near future…

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Belafon  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:21:22am

re: #141 Sea Mexican

I’m having a tad of a problem sourcing this quote … I’m getting an unknown from here, and a Dorothy Day from here and here.

Captain Tuttle originally said it, but he was too modest to claim credit.

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MsJ  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:21:24am

re: #140 Anymouse 🌹🎃

There’s a virtual certainty that the markets will take a giant dump as long as Pumpkin Pinochet is in office.

Here or there? Our Pumpkin Pinochet is no better.

Market Summary > Dow Jones Industrial Average INDEXDJX: .DJI
25,814.58 DOWN −465.33 (1.77%)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:21:38am

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹🎃

45°W is really a lie, Sheeple! They don’t want you to know the truth!

I mean latitude…

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sagehen  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:21:47am

re: #136 lawhawk

Swedish court finds A$AP Rocky guilty of assault for role in Stockholm street brawl.

What that actually means isn’t exactly clear since he is now back in the US. How will the Swedish authorities make him pay restitution?

If he doesn’t just write a check (which he probably will), Sweden can get the money by seizing royalties from record sales within the EU.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:22:37am

re: #140 Anymouse 🌹🎃

There’s a virtual certainty that the markets will take a giant dump as long as Pumpkin Pinochet is in office.

I like my new monicker for him

METAMUICILINI

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:23:05am

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:23:34am

re: #108 Decatur Deb

They will give him less airtime because his show has become predictable and boring. That’s death for any sitcom.

+1 for choosing sitcom over reality show

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:24:50am

re: #114 Sir John Barron

Was this the same non-campaign speech where he whined about China, and Obama, and everything else, and talked about how great he was?

You know, like every speech.

and where he nonetheless stomps on the hatch act at least half a dozen times

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:25:30am

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:28:35am

re: #141 Sea Mexican

I’m having a tad of a problem sourcing this quote … I’m getting an unknown from here, and a Dorothy Day from here and here.

I have a second hand source for it to Dorothy Day from a protest in Australia in 2000, here.
takver.com

There is no attribution of that quote to Dorothy Day at Wikiquote, though she is an interesting person to read about there.
en.wikiquote.org

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:28:39am

re: #143 Belafon

Captain Tuttle originally said it, but he was too modest to claim credit.

selfless that tuttle was

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:28:59am

Wake up and I see the UK Guardian covering this while the Screw York Times continues to kiss Trump’s ass…

The Republican politician Matt Shea connected close allies with a group offering training to young men in “biblical warfare” that includes how to use knives, pistols and rifles, with lessons based in part on the teachings of a Georgia-based neo-Confederate pastor, emails obtained by the Guardian reveal.

Shea, who is an elected Washington state representative, later made videos in support of the group, and appeared alongside them at a gathering at a religious community in remote eastern Washington. He also paid the founder of the group money from his campaign fund in 2018.

On Team Rugged website, it is described as “a Christian organization that strongly believes in building manly character and the capability to stand in adversity in young men”.

“There will be scenarios where every participant will have to fight against one of the most barbaric enemies that are invading our country, Muslims terrorists (sic)”.

theguardian.com

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:35:59am

re: #154 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m unaware of the part of the Bible which discusses “Biblical Warfare” at all, much less with arms that would not be invented for 1,500 years yet.

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MsJ  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:36:36am

Interesting read. From Variety no less.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:38:49am

Oh my!

The two staff members who were responsible for guarding the unit when Jeffrey Epstein died of apparent suicide over the weekend fell asleep for nearly three hours when they were supposed to check on the prisoner every 30 minutes, The New York Times reported.

The same staff members — whom Attorney General William Barr directed be placed on administrative leave until the end of the investigation on Tuesday — then falsified their duty log to try to cover up the mistake, which could be considered a federal crime, according to the Times. Both guards were working overtime. One had been forced to due to short staffing and the other had not been working as a guard at the time, but volunteered to do the duties for the overtime pay, according to the Times.

talkingpointsmemo.com.

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Belafon  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:40:25am

re: #157 Joe Bacon 🌹

I read that our federal prisions are understaffed by something like 7K jobs because of Trump’s hiring freeze and cuts (probably to fund the wall).

They shouldn’t have falsified the records, though.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:41:09am

re: #158 Belafon

I read that our federal prisions are understaffed by something like 7K jobs because of Trump’s hiring freeze and cuts (probably to fund the wall).

They shouldn’t have falsified the records, though.

they will take the fall, not the people who had them working longer than human beings should be expected to work

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Belafon  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:43:54am

re: #155 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I’m unaware of the part of the Bible which discusses “Biblical Warfare” at all, much less with arms that would not be invented for 1,500 years yet.

And remember how many Muslims the Bible describes?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:50:00am

re: #160 Belafon

And remember how many Muslims the Bible describes?

They are described in the Bible.

“Heathens.”

That pretty much covers anyone a Christian doesn’t like. A Wiccan is a heathen. A Hindu is a heathen. Atheists are heathens.

It’s sort of like the term “crimethink” in “1984.” The word exists to ignore anything embodied by the idea. “Heathen” is the “crimethink” of any religion (not just Christians).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:50:18am

re: #160 Belafon

And remember how many Muslims the Bible describes?

All sons of Beelzebub, whom the Bible describes…

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:55:27am

Klobuchar: Atheist Voters Not a Political Liability (video, 0:20)

US Senator Amy Klobuchar states that atheist voters are not a political liability for presidential hopefuls but falls short on explaining why ca candidates and politicians fail to recognize one of the largest and fastest growing voting blocs in the United States.

Klobuchar: Atheist Voters Not a Political Liability

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:56:46am

re: #161 Anymouse 🌹🎃

They are described in the Bible.

“Heathens.”

That pretty much covers anyone a Christian doesn’t like. A Wiccan is a heathen. A Hindu is a heathen. Atheists are heathens.

It’s sort of like the term “crimethink” in “1984.” The word exists to ignore anything embodied by the idea. “Heathen” is the “crimethink” of any religion (not just Christians).

- socialist/ism
- liberal
- ‘democrat’
- lefty / leftist

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Belafon  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:58:31am

re: #163 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I’m gonna go glass half full here and say good on her for “US Senator Amy Klobuchar states that atheist voters are not a political liability for presidential hopefuls.”

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Sea Mexican  Aug 14, 2019 • 7:59:29am

re: #152 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I have a second hand source for it to Dorothy Day from a protest in Australia in 2000, here.
takver.com

There is no attribution of that quote to Dorothy Day at Wikiquote, though she is an interesting person to read about there.
en.wikiquote.org

What I could gloss over, Day certainly is a person to read about.

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Belafon  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:01:27am

re: #163 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Klobuchar: Atheist Voters Not a Political Liability (video, 0:20)

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Also, I find the term “fastest growing” to be meaningless. “We sold our first car. We are officially the fastest growing car company in America.”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:01:29am

Lots of funny responses to this tweet!

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lawhawk  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:02:19am

DJIA down 506.96(-1.93%)

Why? Recession fears, thanks to inverted yield curve, slowing economies across Europe, the idiotic Trump trade war doing damage to US, China, and elsewhere, Brazil’s mess, and even Brexit.

Super. Trump’s answer? Let’s show how strong the economy is by demanding the Fed cut interest rates even more.

The economy isn’t strong if you’re cutting interest rates. It’s the opposite. It’s a sign the economy is sluggish, slowing, or worse. Trump thinks goosing the rate will somehow save his hide from the consequences of his damaging trade war.

So, he’s taken to attacking his latest pick for the Fed.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:04:16am

re: #157 Joe Bacon 🌹

Oh my!

The two staff members who were responsible for guarding the unit when Jeffrey Epstein died of apparent suicide over the weekend fell asleep for nearly three hours when they were supposed to check on the prisoner every 30 minutes, The New York Times reported.

The same staff members — whom Attorney General William Barr directed be placed on administrative leave until the end of the investigation on Tuesday — then falsified their duty log to try to cover up the mistake, which could be considered a federal crime, according to the Times. Both guards were working overtime. One had been forced to due to short staffing and the other had not been working as a guard at the time, but volunteered to do the duties for the overtime pay, according to the Times.

talkingpointsmemo.com.

I heard on Morning Joe guards had taken to sleeping in their cars rather than drive home then right back for another shift.

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Belafon  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:04:32am

re: #168 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Lots of funny responses to this tweet!

What’s in the picture?

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:05:41am

re: #167 Belafon

Also, I find the term “fastest growing” to be meaningless. “We sold our first car. We are officially the fastest growing car company in America.”

Yeah, 100% over last year so far.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:05:42am

re: #171 Belafon

What’s in the picture?

A couple in antebellum costumes with the man on his knee proposing.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:06:03am

I don’t think so.

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Belafon  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:07:06am

re: #174 The Pie Overlord!

I don’t think so.

“God will punish the fish for something something.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:07:15am

re: #174 The Pie Overlord!

I don’t think so.

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Uh no. Just shut up about Israel you hacks.

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Belafon  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:07:36am

re: #173 NO SMOCKING GUN!

A couple in antebellum costumes with the man on his knee proposing.

“I’ll give you a three child dinner for your hand in marriage.”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:07:46am

re: #174 The Pie Overlord!

I don’t think so.

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The great thing about disasters is that you can assign anything you don’t like as the reason God smote us, and he won’t disagree!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:08:15am

Holy Tom Petty, Batman!

Dow now free falling past -550!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:09:41am

re: #179 Joe Bacon 🌹

Holy Tom Petty, Batman!

Dow now free falling past -550!

Needs to drop below 25k so that Trump can celebrate breaking that number again.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:09:44am

re: #157 Joe Bacon 🌹

Oh my!

The two staff members who were responsible for guarding the unit when Jeffrey Epstein died of apparent suicide over the weekend fell asleep for nearly three hours when they were supposed to check on the prisoner every 30 minutes, The New York Times reported.

The same staff members — whom Attorney General William Barr directed be placed on administrative leave until the end of the investigation on Tuesday — then falsified their duty log to try to cover up the mistake, which could be considered a federal crime, according to the Times. Both guards were working overtime. One had been forced to due to short staffing and the other had not been working as a guard at the time, but volunteered to do the duties for the overtime pay, according to the Times.

talkingpointsmemo.com.

I fucking called this. I knew Barr would find himself a couple of fall guys.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:10:19am

re: #179 Joe Bacon 🌹

Holy Tom Petty, Batman!

Dow now free falling past -550!

2020 isn’t going to be a good year economically. If we beat Trump, we’re going to have to fix right wing economic stupidity again sigh.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:10:24am

re: #166 Sea Mexican

What I could gloss over, Day certainly is a person to read about.

I’m certain we are the only household in the county that gets the Catholic Worker by mail. Still only 1 cent (nominally).

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:11:23am

“Trump knew Epstein was going to be arrested this year so he put a hiring freeze on prison guards so those that were tasked with guarding him would fall asleep giving him a chance to hang himself!” ////

Or:

PRISON GUARDS TARGETED BY CLINTON SLEEPRAYS

Or:

CLINTONS HAD PRISON GUARDS DRUGGED which allowed them to enter Epstein’s cell to hang him

(We will be seeing this soon, I just know it.)

Still doesn’t answer why he was taken off of suicide watch. No ////

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:11:41am

re: #174 The Pie Overlord!

I don’t think so.

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The deepwater horizon spill disproportionately impacted Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and the Florida pan handle. These areas have some the highest “Churches per capita” rates in the country. Seems like if God really wanted to stick it to Obama he would have sent tornadoes to Chicago or something.

//

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:12:25am

re: #185 Eclectic Cyborg

The deepwater horizon spill disproportionately impacted Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and the Florida pan handle. These areas have some the highest “Churches per capita” rates in the country. Seems like if God really wanted to stick it to Obama he would have sent tornadoes to Chicago or something.

//

Shhhh common sense and zealots doesn’t mix.

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:12:57am

re: #169 lawhawk

DJIA down 506.96(-1.93%)

Why? Recession fears, thanks to inverted yield curve, slowing economies across Europe, the idiotic Trump trade war doing damage to US, China, and elsewhere, Brazil’s mess, and even Brexit.

Super. Trump’s answer? Let’s show how strong the economy is by demanding the Fed cut interest rates even more.

The economy isn’t strong if you’re cutting interest rates. It’s the opposite. It’s a sign the economy is sluggish, slowing, or worse. Trump thinks goosing the rate will somehow save his hide from the consequences of his damaging trade war.

So, he’s taken to attacking his latest pick for the Fed.

and he delayed the chinese tariffs from 9/1 to 12/15 so as not to have an impact on americans at christmas time.

brings up some interesting points:

- the erratic nature of the markets - that they cant seem to find their footing/figure out what the plan is - seems to indicate there wont be a trade deal with china any time soon
- it makes no sense if china pays the tariffs how it could possibly affect american consumers at christmas time. /s (but not really)
- delaying to 12/15 means when they do kick in all he did was swap holiday season for election season - possibly not the smartest political move

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:13:28am

re: #184 GlutenFreeJesus

“Trump knew Epstein was going to be arrested this year so he put a hiring freeze on prison guards so those that were tasked with guarding him would fall asleep giving him a chance to hang himself!” ////

Or:

PRISON GUARDS TARGETED BY CLINTON SLEEPRAYS

Or:

CLINTONS HAD PRISON GUARDS DRUGGED which allowed them to enter Epstein’s cell to hang him

(We will be seeing this soon, I just know it.)

Still doesn’t answer why he was taken off of suicide watch. No ////

Insane religious nut relatives already posting that the Clintons drugged the guards—and Q said so…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:13:39am

re: #182 HappyWarrior

2020 isn’t going to be a good year economically. If we beat Trump, we’re going to have to fix right wing economic stupidity again sigh.

I was actually just thinking of this scenario: Economy limps on through next year, Trump loses the election. Democratic President takes control in January 2021 and shortly thereafter the economic wheels fall off and we go into a bad recession. Then of course the RWNJs as well as Mitch Mconnell et. al blame the new President for all the damage and we get another Republican President in 2025.

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:15:46am

re: #174 The Pie Overlord!

Right-wing pastor Frank Amedia says the 2010 Deepwater Horizon oil spill was God’s punishment for Obama snubbing Netanyahu and trying to divide Israel.

prove it

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:16:16am

re: #189 Eclectic Cyborg

I was actually just thinking of this scenario: Economy limps on through next year, Trump loses the election. Democratic President takes control in January 2021 and shortly thereafter the economic wheels fall off and we go into a bad recession. Then of course the RWNJs as well as Mitch Mconnell et. al blame the new President for all the damage and we get another Republican President in 2025.

I’m petrified of that situation and it’s very possible.

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Belafon  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:16:44am

re: #189 Eclectic Cyborg

I was actually just thinking of this scenario: Economy limps on through next year, Trump loses the election. Democratic President takes control in January 2021 and shortly thereafter the economic wheels fall off and we go into a bad recession. Then of course the RWNJs as well as Mitch Mconnell et. al blame the new President for all the damage and we get another Republican President in 2025.

People have been pretty good about not assigning blame in the early part of an administratio, understanding that any causes were done by the predecesor. That’s why Trump hasn’t gotten a whole lot of credit for the economy.

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lawhawk  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:17:12am

re: #181 Eclectic Cyborg

These are the low hanging fruit.

Never look past the policies that made this situation what it was in the first place. Don’t pay attention to Trumpworld cutting DOJ and BOP funding for oversight, staffing, etc. Don’t pay attention to Trumpworld putting incompetents in key positions.

The current head of the BOP is an acting individual. Deputy Director is vacant. Health Services Director is Acting. 25% of the top 16 positions below Deputy Director are filled with acting personnel. This has consequences.

Trump’s actions to damage the function of government continues with the GOP wink/nod.

This is on them, even before we delve into the historical problems with incarceration in the US and poor treatment of prisoners at all levels of government. That the US also incarcerates at a greater rate than other countries shouldn’t be lost on anyone either. Private prisons too. All of it.

And the private prison industry is making out like bandits because they’ve shifted to deal with immigration issues to fill the void being left by criminal justice reform, and the fact that states can’t afford imprisoning as many people as they do for nonviolent offenses.

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Belafon  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:17:18am

re: #187 DangerMan

and he delayed the chinese tariffs from 9/1 to 12/15 so as not to have an impact on americans at christmas time.

brings up some interesting points:

- the erratic nature of the markets - that they cant seem to find their footing/figure out what the plan is - seems to indicate there wont be a trade deal with china any time soon
- it makes no sense if china pays the tariffs how it could possibly affect american consumers at christmas time. /s (but not really)
- delaying to 12/15 means when they do kick in all he did was swap holiday season for election season - possibly not the smartest political move

The market’s aren’t going to wait until December to start building the tariffs into their costs.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:17:38am

re: #190 DangerMan

prove it

Actually, it was god fucking the Louisiana and Mississippi Gulf fisheries to curry favor with the Apalachicola shrimpers and oystermen.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:18:14am

Dow -615…

Yield Curve inverting…signaling a recession coming…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:19:33am

re: #196 Joe Bacon 🌹

Dow -615…

Yield Curve inverting…signaling a recession coming…

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Sigh. Means Trump is going to double down on the bigoted shit and probably do more tariffs ie Smoot-Hawley that will make shit worse.

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Jay C  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:20:14am

re: #177 Belafon

“I’ll give you a three child dinner for your hand in marriage.”

“Why, thank you, kind sir! I am quite partial to Irish stew!”

“That is quite good, my sweet. I have several surplus Irish infants on my estate right now. Let us away!”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:20:28am

re: #165 Belafon

I’m gonna go glass half full here and say good on her for “US Senator Amy Klobuchar states that atheist voters are not a political liability for presidential hopefuls.”

I remember when wingnuts went crazy over President Obama acknowledged us in a speech.

The fact is we are a political liability, which is why Klobuchar didn’t directly say “no” and instead spoke to separation of church and state in the Constitution.

If an organisation such as American Atheists or the Secular Coalition of America endorsed a candidate, that candidate would be doomed.

All a politician has to do is campaign against someone being supported by atheists or being one, as I am painfully aware.

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:20:32am

re: #181 Eclectic Cyborg

I fucking called this. I knew Barr would find himself a couple of fall guys.

paraphrased from this AM’s electoral-vote.com

- everyone knows Barr has ultimate supervisory responsibility.
- like it or not, barr keeps stepping in shit and gets a lot of bad press
- trump hates to look bad
- barr might have to go. (long shot)
- Alex Acosta went pdq. (remember - that was so three weeks ago)

quoting EV:

“If Trump’s cabinet ultimately does find itself dis-Barred, that would mean that Epstein, a sex offender and trafficker of adolescent girls, would be responsible for the fall of two cabinet secretaries in less than a month.”

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Decatur Deb  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:21:08am

re: #198 Jay C

“Why, thank you, kind sir! I am quite partial to Irish stew!”

“That is quite good, my sweet. I have several surplus Irish infants on my estate right now. Let us away!”

That’s not at all realistic. He’d be haggling with her father.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:22:32am

re: #199 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I remember when wingnuts went crazy over President Obama acknowledged us in a speech.

The fact is we are a political liability, which is why Klobuchar didn’t directly say “no” and instead spoke to separation of church and state in the Constitution.

If an organisation such as American Atheists or the Secular Coalition of America endorsed a candidate, that candidate would be doomed.

All a politician has to do is campaign against someone being supported by atheists or being one, as I am painfully aware.

Jewish and Muslim religious organizations endorsing candidates would cause a fervor. It’s not just atheists. That’s the Christian privilege that exists. The very existence of the religious right.

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steve_davis  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:23:15am

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Berkshire? As in Berkshire Hathaway? As in Warren Buffett, who supports his son in Cochise County, Ariz. running a border militia and defoliating the border in his property to keep “those” people out?

Or is that a different Berkshire?

As in Warren Buffett, the guy who still lives in his split-level in Omaha that he bought back in the 1950’s. I don’t give a shit what his son does. The man is the greatest investor who has ever lived.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:23:31am

re: #190 DangerMan

prove it

Christians don’t have to prove anything, even that their god exists. All preachers have to do is assert something, and their followers believe it.

“God said it, I believe it, now go forth and vote for politicians who will write laws about it.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:24:48am

re: #203 steve_davis

As in Warren Buffett, the guy who still lives in his split-level in Omaha that he bought back in the 1950’s. I don’t give a shit what his son does. The man is the greatest investor who has ever lived.

He might be the greatest investor who ever lived, but I am still concerned when he gives his son tens of millions of dollars to help pay for wingnut border militias.

He is no liberal, and I do not worship money.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:25:48am

Today is my 38th birthday. I’ve been adulting for 20 years now and I still don’t have all this shit figured out.

But I’m healthy. I have a decent job. I have many good friends and family who fulfill my life and while this last year has not gone the way I intended, it hasn’t been half bad.

Though somehow, I think I’ll enjoy birthdays more once Trump is long gone.

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lawhawk  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:26:43am

re: #187 DangerMan

Markets and businesses want consistency. Stability. It makes things predictable because you can plan out how your future quarter purchases, sales, and costs will be.

When you’ve got a addled reactionary know nothing in the WH throwing tariffs against the wall to see what sticks, you suddenly find your costs, purchases, and sales all over the place as suppliers and buyers are scrambling to hedge against cost spikes and avoid paying more than they have to. Some will pad inventory now to wait things out, or others will defer buys until later. Consumers will shift spending, or hold off to avoid costs too.

All of it means that the economy, which was already slowing due to uncertainties finds itself weaker than it should be - it’s a self-fulfilling response.

Brexit, the violence in Hong Kong, and tariffs all combine to be a shit show and the inverted yield curve is another sign that businesses see a recession coming. Trump’s trade war doesn’t help, and is also slowing things down too (for reasons stated above).

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:27:09am

re: #206 Eclectic Cyborg

Today is my 38th birthday. I’ve been adulting for 20 years now and I still don’t have all this shit figured out.

But I’m healthy. I have a decent job. I have many good friends and family who fulfill my life and while this last year has not gone the way I intended, it hasn’t been half bad.

Though somehow, I think I’ll enjoy birthdays more once Trump is long gone.

Happy Birthday, dude.

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:27:11am

re: #189 Eclectic Cyborg

I was actually just thinking of this scenario: Economy limps on through next year, Trump loses the election. Democratic President takes control in January 2021 and shortly thereafter the economic wheels fall off and we go into a bad recession. Then of course the RWNJs as well as Mitch Mconnell et. al blame the new President for all the damage and we get another Republican President in 2025.

R president: total credit for inherited economy, no blame for trashing it
D president: total responsibility for crash on day 1 of administration

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:27:13am

re: #206 Eclectic Cyborg

Happy Birthday!
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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:28:08am

re: #191 HappyWarrior

I’m petrified of that situation and it’s very possible.

you can be sure, yes sure, that all the smart ones running for president on the D side already see this coming

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lawhawk  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:28:27am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:29:14am

re: #211 DangerMan

you can be sure, yes sure, that all the smart ones running for president on the D side already see this coming

No doubt I’m certain.

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:29:23am

re: #192 Belafon

People have been pretty good about not assigning blame in the early part of an administratio, understanding that any causes were done by the predecesor. That’s why Trump hasn’t gotten a whole lot of credit for the economy.

as kate hepburn said to the german captain of the louisa in the african queen:

“nevertheless”

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Jay C  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:29:27am

re: #200 DangerMan

paraphrased from this AM’s electoral-vote.com

- everyone knows Barr has ultimate supervisory responsibility.
- like it or not, barr keeps stepping in shit and gets a lot of bad press
- trump hates to look bad
- barr might have to go. (long shot)
- Alex Acosta went pdq. (remember - that was so three weeks ago)

quoting EV:

A nice thought, but probably a longer shot than Acosta: the former Sec’y was directly involved in the (original) Epstein case: Barr is not only in a far more important position (Trump can always dredge up some union-busting hack for Labor*, Bill Barr is at Justice primarily to protect Donny’s orange ass from his criminality coming to light) - but has the shield of official “distance” from the Fail At The Jail to avoid any perceived responsibility. Unfortunately.

*assuming he even nominates anyone for SoL, and doesn’t just leave the Department headed by “Acting”, as typical

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:29:42am

re: #212 lawhawk

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Why worry about Shariah when we’ve got Crusader wannabes.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:30:04am

re: #206 Eclectic Cyborg

Today is my 38th birthday. I’ve been adulting for 20 years now and I still don’t have all this shit figured out.

But I’m healthy. I have a decent job. I have many good friends and family who fulfill my life and while this last year has not gone the way I intended, it hasn’t been half bad.

Though somehow, I think I’ll enjoy birthdays more once Trump is long gone.

Though somehow, I think I’ll enjoy birthdays life more once Trump is long gone out of the White House.

Happy Birthday.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:30:10am

re: #206 Eclectic Cyborg

Today is my 38th birthday. I’ve been adulting for 20 years now and I still don’t have all this shit figured out.

But I’m healthy. I have a decent job. I have many good friends and family who fulfill my life and while this last year has not gone the way I intended, it hasn’t been half bad.

Though somehow, I think I’ll enjoy birthdays more once Trump is long gone.

Get past 60 like me and you are still trying to figure out all the shit that goes down!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!

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steve_davis  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:30:16am

re: #168 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Lots of funny responses to this tweet!

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It’s about gentlemen eating luscious babes. Cover seems appropriate.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:30:26am

re: #207 lawhawk

If markets and businesses want stability, why do they keep supporting Republicans?

There is money to be made from instability as well. No exceptionally wealthy person went bankrupt during any of our depressions or recessions. A lot of middle class and poor people gave up their wealth to the already-comfortable though.

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:30:40am

re: #194 Belafon

The market’s aren’t going to wait until December to start building the tariffs into their costs.

i set it up
you hit it out

exactly so

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:31:30am

re: #206 Eclectic Cyborg

Today is my 38th birthday. I’ve been adulting for 20 years now and I still don’t have all this shit figured out.

But I’m healthy. I have a decent job. I have many good friends and family who fulfill my life and while this last year has not gone the way I intended, it hasn’t been half bad.

Though somehow, I think I’ll enjoy birthdays more once Trump is long gone.

Happy Birthday.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:32:15am

^VIX just went over 22. More market instability coming…

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b.d.  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:32:18am

re: #206 Eclectic Cyborg

Happy Birthday

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:33:09am

So I’ve been thinking about this kid who was busted with the 25 guns and the 10 000 rounds of ammo and I keep coming to back to this: “Who the hell, besides a gun collector, needs THAT many guns??”

I mean, you only have two hands so you can fire at most two weapons at a time. Even being creative, the most amount of guns you could get on your person at once might be what, around 10 maybe? And those would have to mostly be handguns. I just don’t see the tactical advantage to having an arsenal like that.

If it it were me, I’d focus on maybe four key weapons I thought could get the job done and bring plenty of ammo for each.

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:34:30am

re: #204 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Christians don’t have to prove anything, even that their god exists. All preachers have to do is assert something, and their followers believe it.

“God said it, I believe it, now go forth and vote for politicians who will write laws about it.”

god talks to you?
in specifics?
really?
to you?
not to anyone else?
how do we know you’re not just making this up?

i see a red flag looming….

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:34:44am

re: #225 Eclectic Cyborg

So I’ve been thinking about this kid who was busted with the 25 guns and the 10 000 rounds of ammo and I keep coming to back to this: “Who the hell, besides a gun collector, needs THAT many guns??”

Someone who is very, very insecure about themselves…

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:35:32am

re: #202 HappyWarrior

Jewish and Muslim religious organizations endorsing candidates would cause a fervor. It’s not just atheists. That’s the Christian privilege that exists. The very existence of the religious right.

Certainly a Muslim organisation endorsing anyone would raise ire of Christian voters.

Jewish organisations would be let off the hook if they endorsed the “correct” (right-wing Christian) politicians. Supporters of those politicians can then invoke “Judaeo-Christian values.”

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lawhawk  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:36:22am

re: #220 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Rich and powerful are more capable of surviving prolonged instability. The richest and best positioned are able to capitalize on faltering businesses (takeover targets), expand their markets, and watch as rivals disappear.

Everyone else struggles to get by.

Of course, the richest folks think that they’ll get by, when they really have a house of cards.

That’s why Trump fixates specifically on interest rates. His entire house of cards is predicated on loans and carrying costs - higher rates means his businesses pay more in loans. Reduce the rates, and he’s saving money personally and directly.

It’s also why he doesn’t care how much people suffer from the trade war, although Ross admits that they’re holding off on next tranche of tariffs to avoid harm into the Christmas season (which explicitly shows that China isn’t paying the tariffs, but American consumers).

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:36:38am

re: #226 DangerMan

god talks to you?
in specifics?
really?
to you?
not to anyone else?
how do we know you’re not just making this up?

i see a red flag looming….

And yet many millions of Christians believe exactly that. No red flags for those believers.

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:37:44am

re: #206 Eclectic Cyborg

Today is my 38th birthday. I’ve been adulting for 20 years now and I still don’t have all this shit figured out.

But I’m healthy. I have a decent job. I have many good friends and family who fulfill my life and while this last year has not gone the way I intended, it hasn’t been half bad.

Though somehow, I think I’ll enjoy birthdays more once Trump is long gone.

i tell my just graduating college nieces that they dont have to know what they want to be when they grow up. Yet.
i am over 60 and i tell them in all seriousness that i dont know what i want to be.

i still dont have any of this shit figured out.
except true love. i nailed that one but good. ;-)

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plansbandc  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:38:31am

re: #206 Eclectic Cyborg

Happy Birthday Metal (PANTERA)

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:40:09am

re: #207 lawhawk

Markets and businesses want consistency. Stability. It makes things predictable because you can plan out how your future quarter purchases, sales, and costs will be.

When you’ve got a addled reactionary know nothing in the WH throwing tariffs against the wall to see what sticks, you suddenly find your costs, purchases, and sales all over the place as suppliers and buyers are scrambling to hedge against cost spikes and avoid paying more than they have to. Some will pad inventory now to wait things out, or others will defer buys until later. Consumers will shift spending, or hold off to avoid costs too.

All of it means that the economy, which was already slowing due to uncertainties finds itself weaker than it should be - it’s a self-fulfilling response.

Brexit, the violence in Hong Kong, and tariffs all combine to be a shit show and the inverted yield curve is another sign that businesses see a recession coming. Trump’s trade war doesn’t help, and is also slowing things down too (for reasons stated above).

+1
everything runs on predictability
chaos is neither a system nor a Machiavellian plan. it’s the absence of one

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:40:55am

re: #228 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Certainly a Muslim organisation endorsing anyone would raise ire of Christian voters.

Jewish organisations would be let off the hook if they endorsed the “correct” (right-wing Christian) politicians. Supporters of those politicians can then invoke “Judaeo-Christian values.”

That’s the thing. They wouldn’t likely endorse a Republican candidate and that would expose the Antisemitism of the Christian right. Hell we saw how their ancestors felt about JFK being Catholic.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:41:35am

Re Chinese tariff delays (follow Kai)

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sagehen  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:41:37am

re: #205 Anymouse 🌹🎃

He might be the greatest investor who ever lived, but I am still concerned when he gives his son tens of millions of dollars to help pay for wingnut border militias.

He is no liberal, and I do not worship money.

He doesn’t give his kids “tens of millions” for anything.

He’s given 99.9% of his wealth to the Gates Foundation.

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steve_davis  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:42:02am

re: #182 HappyWarrior

2020 isn’t going to be a good year economically. If we beat Trump, we’re going to have to fix right wing economic stupidity again sigh.

I’m now actually perfectly comfortable with all this. Basically everything owned by anybody is getting crushed today, which means I’ve abandoned any self-doubt I had about my stock picking skill. If you’re in an index fund, you’re not only getting wiped out, you’re not getting any dividends to comfort you in your old age, either.

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:42:36am

re: #215 Jay C

A nice thought, but probably a longer shot than Acosta: the former Sec’y was directly involved in the (original) Epstein case: Barr is not only in a far more important position (Trump can always dredge up some union-busting hack for Labor*, Bill Barr is at Justice primarily to protect Donny’s orange ass from his criminality coming to light) - but has the shield of official “distance” from the Fail At The Jail to avoid any perceived responsibility. Unfortunately.

*assuming he even nominates anyone for SoL, and doesn’t just leave the Department headed by “Acting”, as typical

longest of long shots to be sure.
but a danger can dream cant he?
anything to get through the morning news with some semblance of sanity
there aint enough bird and cat pix

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:43:06am

re: #218 Joe Bacon 🌹

Get past 60 like me and you are still trying to figure out all the shit that goes down!

ding!

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:43:29am

omre: #206 Eclectic Cyborg

Today is my 38th birthday. I’ve been adulting for 20 years now and I still don’t have all this shit figured out.

But I’m healthy. I have a decent job. I have many good friends and family who fulfill my life and while this last year has not gone the way I intended, it hasn’t been half bad.

Though somehow, I think I’ll enjoy birthdays more once Trump is long gone.

Happy Birthday.

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retired cynic  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:44:32am

re: #98 Belafon

Because Democrats can’t worry about voting only the year elections happen:

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Not super rich, but I sent Stacey Abram’s Fair Fight group a bit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:44:56am

Germany’s economy is also getting sucked into the Brexit vortex along with the rest of Europe. They are also going to take a hit, although not as large as the UK will

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:45:18am

re: #236 sagehen

He doesn’t give his kids “tens of millions” for anything.

He’s given 99.9% of his wealth to the Gates Foundation.

Wrong. He pledges whatever wealth he has left when he dies to the Gates Foundation, which is a different thing.

Howard Buffett’s Border War: A Billionaire’s Son Is Spending Millions in Cochise County (Phoenix New Times, first of a multi-part exposé on Howard and Warren Buffett, first part Jan 10, 2019)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:45:23am

re: #237 steve_davis

I’m now actually perfectly comfortable with all this. Basically everything owned by anybody is getting crushed today, which means I’ve abandoned any self-doubt I had about my stock picking skill. If you’re in an index fund, you’re not only getting wiped out, you’re not getting any dividends to comfort you in your old age, either.

True. I guess just for once, I’d like to have a Dem President in prosperous times so we can really get some of our more ambitious social ideas into law.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:46:02am

re: #237 steve_davis

I’m now actually perfectly comfortable with all this. Basically everything owned by anybody is getting crushed today, which means I’ve abandoned any self-doubt I had about my stock picking skill. If you’re in an index fund, you’re not only getting wiped out, you’re not getting any dividends to comfort you in your old age, either.

…but you done got Jesus!…

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steve_davis  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:46:08am

re: #223 Joe Bacon 🌹

^VIX just went over 22. More market instability coming…

VIX is one of the all time greatest contrarian indicators in stock market history.

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:47:18am

re: #220 Anymouse 🌹🎃

If markets and businesses want stability, why do they keep supporting Republicans?

There is money to be made from instability as well. No exceptionally wealthy person went bankrupt during any of our depressions or recessions. A lot of middle class and poor people gave up their wealth to the already-comfortable though.

- you can make money whether the markets go up or down
- you can hedge and make less than the market when it goes up and lose less when it goes down
- while no one knows what’s gonna happen tomorrow, everyone pretends or believes he’s got a predictor or a model
- some work better than others over time
- if you cant predict, you’re just guessing and any success is arbitrary dumb luck

- that’s not an investing model or business model.
- its just darts (which has also proven to be a somewhat effective technique)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:48:30am

Border Cowboys: Howard Buffett Is a Perfect Fit With Cochise County’s Legacy of Vigilantism (showing both Buffetts’ connexions to border vigilantes and John Tanton’s racist anti-immigrant networks)

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:48:39am

re: #242 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germany’s economy is also getting sucked into the Brexit vortex along with the rest of Europe. They are also going to take a hit, although not as large as the UK will

Yep - Czech economy is starting to show signs of slowing down as well. The Czech economy, like that of Germany’s, is heavily export driven.

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:49:20am

re: #225 Eclectic Cyborg

So I’ve been thinking about this kid who was busted with the 25 guns and the 10 000 rounds of ammo and I keep coming to back to this: “Who the hell, besides a gun collector, needs THAT many guns??”

I mean, you only have two hands so you can fire at most two weapons at a time. Even being creative, the most amount of guns you could get on your person at once might be what, around 10 maybe? And those would have to mostly be handguns. I just don’t see the tactical advantage to having an arsenal like that.

If it it were me, I’d focus on maybe four key weapons I thought could get the job done and bring plenty of ammo for each.

[perceived] small dick compensator

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:50:53am

re: #229 lawhawk

Rich and powerful are more capable of surviving prolonged instability. The richest and best positioned are able to capitalize on faltering businesses (takeover targets), expand their markets, and watch as rivals disappear.

Everyone else struggles to get by.

Of course, the richest folks think that they’ll get by, when they really have a house of cards.

That’s why Trump fixates specifically on interest rates. His entire house of cards is predicated on loans and carrying costs - higher rates means his businesses pay more in loans. Reduce the rates, and he’s saving money personally and directly.

It’s also why he doesn’t care how much people suffer from the trade war, although Ross admits that they’re holding off on next tranche of tariffs to avoid harm into the Christmas season (which explicitly shows that China isn’t paying the tariffs, but American consumers).

trumps model is ‘appearing rich using other people’s money’

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:51:13am

re: #249 Dr Lizardo

Yep - Czech economy is starting to show signs of slowing down as well. The Czech economy, like that of Germany’s, is heavily export driven.

Makeitstop is you’re here, to paraphrase our pal Frank, feels like 1933 and I don’t like it at all.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:52:57am

Dow just slipped below 600 again.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:53:06am
Unable to secure support from colleges, in 1979, he [John Tanton] founded the non-profit Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) with early support from Warren Buffett and Eugene McCarthy. By 1983, he co-founded U.S. English.

en.wikipedia.org

Tanton finally died last month. Only the good die young.

Liberals who live in Nebraska know Warren Buffett is no friend of liberals.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:53:46am

re: #225 Eclectic Cyborg

So I’ve been thinking about this kid who was busted with the 25 guns and the 10 000 rounds of ammo and I keep coming to back to this: “Who the hell, besides a gun collector, needs THAT many guns??”

I mean, you only have two hands so you can fire at most two weapons at a time. Even being creative, the most amount of guns you could get on your person at once might be what, around 10 maybe? And those would have to mostly be handguns. I just don’t see the tactical advantage to having an arsenal like that.

If it it were me, I’d focus on maybe four key weapons I thought could get the job done and bring plenty of ammo for each.

The kid may be subscribed to…

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 14, 2019 • 8:59:40am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:13:31am

(video, sixty seconds)

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ckkatz  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:14:48am

re: #225 Eclectic Cyborg

So I’ve been thinking about this kid who was busted with the 25 guns and the 10 000 rounds of ammo and I keep coming to back to this: “Who the hell, besides a gun collector, needs THAT many guns??”

I mean, you only have two hands so you can fire at most two weapons at a time. Even being creative, the most amount of guns you could get on your person at once might be what, around 10 maybe? And those would have to mostly be handguns. I just don’t see the tactical advantage to having an arsenal like that.

If it it were me, I’d focus on maybe four key weapons I thought could get the job done and bring plenty of ammo for each.

Yes, 10,000 rds is generally a lot of ammunition. And 25 is a lot of firearms.

I guess to some degree that it would depend upon what one is doing with them.

Feel free to correct me, but I seem remember a basic combat load of ammunition for the m-16 to be around 300 rounds. Twice that for the squad automatic weapon. If one expects to go into combat, and was expecting to ride there, perhaps a double basic load.

A few decades ago, the numbers I saw for a professional trying to maintain a high level of proficiency with a firearm were around 20,000 rounds a year. (200 rounds per 2 hour session twice a week) At the current 25-50 cents a round, that is a lot of money. Reloading will save some money, at the cost of additional hours of time sitting at the reloading machine.

Due to cost and time involved, it is difficult to maintain high proficiency in more than a couple of firearms.

And in real life, generally, only one, perhaps two firearms can be carried at a time due to weight and bulk issues.

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gocart mozart  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:18:54am

re: #168 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:24:01am

re: #259 gocart mozart

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Hahaha that made my day.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:27:21am

re: #259 gocart mozart

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!

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stpaulbear  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:28:17am

re: #206 Eclectic Cyborg

Today is my 38th birthday. I’ve been adulting for 20 years now and I still don’t have all this shit figured out.

But I’m healthy. I have a decent job. I have many good friends and family who fulfill my life and while this last year has not gone the way I intended, it hasn’t been half bad.

Though somehow, I think I’ll enjoy birthdays more once Trump is long gone.

You just passed your prime. You won’t be prime again until you’re 41. Happy Bday.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:34:19am

LOL

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:35:59am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:37:26am

re: #262 stpaulbear

You just passed your prime. You won’t be prime again until you’re 41. Happy Bday.

Aw did you have to lay the Sieve of Eratosthenes on him?

en.wikipedia.org

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gocart mozart  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:38:01am
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mmmirele  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:38:26am

Two weeks ago, it was Josh Harris* who was pushed out the Christian airlock. This week, it’s Marty Sampson, a singer/songwriter with Hillsong. So this John Cooper of the Christian band Skillet decided it was his time to push Sampson out the airlock and vent to vacuum. Inlet him have it on his Facebook (see picture).

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stpaulbear  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:40:51am

re: #225 Eclectic Cyborg

So I’ve been thinking about this kid who was busted with the 25 guns and the 10 000 rounds of ammo and I keep coming to back to this: “Who the hell, besides a gun collector, needs THAT many guns??”

I mean, you only have two hands so you can fire at most two weapons at a time. Even being creative, the most amount of guns you could get on your person at once might be what, around 10 maybe? And those would have to mostly be handguns. I just don’t see the tactical advantage to having an arsenal like that.

If it it were me, I’d focus on maybe four key weapons I thought could get the job done and bring plenty of ammo for each.

The WaPo story about the kid makes it sound like his dad was part of the hoarding.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:44:26am

re: #264 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Someone left old TVs outside 50 homes in Virginia while wearing a TV on his head. No one knows why.

In Germany, you have to pay to dispose of a tube TV set. Dunno what the law is in VA

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:44:53am

re: #269 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In Germany, you have to pay to dispose of a tube TV set. Dunno what the law is in VA

Don’t think there is one.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:46:53am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:47:23am

re: #271 Dread Pirate

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Correct.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:48:27am

re: #264 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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BEWARE! IT’S THE TWONKY!

The Twonky

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:50:57am

re: #270 HappyWarrior

Don’t think there is one.

A number of Virginia cities require recycling of old television sets, and charge fees for that.
deq.virginia.gov

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lawhawk  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:52:40am

Macy’s reporting massive earnings miss. Slashed outlook for full year and next year. Retailer warns on ongoing trade war and damage it’s doing to the retail sector.

Retailers like Macy’s have been burdened by a long-drawn trade war between the United States and China, which U.S. President Donald Trump escalated earlier this month by threatening to impose 10% tariffs on $300 billion worth of Chinese goods from Sept. 1. On Tuesday, the Trump administration delayed the 10% tariffs on some Chinese goods until Dec. 15.

Macy’s executives reassured investors on a post-earnings call Wednesday that the company is in “active discussions” with vendors and suppliers to mitigate tariffs and minimize customer impact in 2019 as much as possible.

Analysts said the temporary tariff reprieve would not benefit retailers greatly.

“Only a small percentage of soft-good tariffs are actually getting delayed until December 15th and none have been removed yet,” UBS analyst Jay Sole wrote in a note, adding that, of the approximately 789 apparel and footwear categories on the original latest list of tariffs, only 17% have had tariffs delayed.

Gennette said he believed 10% tariffs to be manageable but that it would be harder to maintain pricing if 25% tariffs are imposed on all remaining imports from China, adding “there’s no customer appetite for price increases.”

Macy’s now expects 2019 adjusted profit to be between $2.85 per share to $3.05 per share, down from a previous forecast of $3.05 to $3.25.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:52:53am

re: #274 Anymouse 🌹🎃

A number of Virginia cities require recycling of old television sets, and charge fees for that.
deq.virginia.gov

Got it. Don’t have the time to do Google-fu thanks.

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lawhawk  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:54:12am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:57:51am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 9:58:26am

re: #276 HappyWarrior

Got it. Don’t have the time to do Google-fu thanks.

Well, it was Ixquick-fu in my case.

(7:05) Utah Outcasts on Bil Mitchell thinking there’s no downside to Qanon.

Bill Mitchell Thinks There is NO Downside to Believing in QAnon

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:00:21am

re: #278 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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His family reunions must be hell on the women.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:01:39am

re: #278 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Well, that’s one for the Republican Rape Advisory Chart.

goprapeadvisorychart.com

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:07:42am

re: #278 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Wholly crap. The quote in question shown in the Des Moines Register:

“What if we went back through all the family trees and just pulled out anyone who was a product of rape or incest? Would there be any population of the world left if we did that?” he said in Urbandale, Iowa. “Considering all the wars and all the rapes and pillages that happened throughout all these different nations, I know that I can’t say that I was not a part of a product of that.”

desmoinesregister.com

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:07:56am

My printer just died. It was a spectacular death. I mean, it didn’t catch on fire or anything but started to hemorrhage (black ink) & then triggered a BSOD device failure.

It’s now safely unplugged & plastic-bagged and I am looking for a new printer. Any recommendations? This is for a home office. The deceased printer was an HP Photosmart deskjet.

I use it mostly for printing recipes.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:08:21am

re: #278 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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JFC.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:09:13am

re: #282 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Wholly crap. The quote in question shown in the Des Moines Register:

desmoinesregister.com

Many of us are probably descendants of it. It doesn’t make it OKAY!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:09:18am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:10:23am

re: #286 Charles Johnson

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I’m here because my great grandfather’s first wife died of TB. My grandmother’s mother was his second wife. Doesn’t mean I think TB is good.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:10:28am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:10:33am

re: #264 Anymouse 🌹🎃

“Someone left old TVs outside 50 homes in Virginia while wearing a TV on his head. No one knows why.”

That’s like, the perfect lead in to a horror movie.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:12:56am

re: #283 The Pie Overlord!

My printer just died. It was a spectacular death. I mean, it didn’t catch on fire or anything but started to hemorrhage (black ink) & then triggered a BSOD device failure.

It’s now safely unplugged & plastic-bagged and I am looking for a new printer. Any recommendations? This is for a home office. The deceased printer was an HP Photosmart deskjet.

I use it mostly for printing recipes.

We use a Epson Workforce WF-2650. Since it is wireless, we can both use it without any network juggling.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:13:08am

re: #283 The Pie Overlord!

My printer just died. It was a spectacular death. I mean, it didn’t catch on fire or anything but started to hemorrhage (black ink) & then triggered a BSOD device failure.

It’s now safely unplugged & plastic-bagged and I am looking for a new printer. Any recommendations? This is for a home office. The deceased printer was an HP Photosmart deskjet.

I use it mostly for printing recipes.

A Mimeograph machine. Of course, you’d need to type all the recipes out on masters, keep them where they’re not damaged, and spend a lot of time setting the thing up, not to mention the horrible smell.

There’s a price to pay for freedom from computers though. /s

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:14:48am

re: #291 Anymouse 🌹🎃

A Mimeograph machine. Of course, you’d need to type all the recipes out on masters, keep them where they’re not damaged, and spend a lot of time setting the thing up, not to mention the horrible smell.

There’s a price to pay for freedom from computers though. /s

That “we have a test today” smell?

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:16:07am

This Is The Future Liberals Want

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:16:35am

re: #291 Anymouse 🌹🎃

A Mimeograph machine. Of course, you’d need to type all the recipes out on masters, keep them where they’re not damaged, and spend a lot of time setting the thing up, not to mention the horrible smell.

There’s a price to pay for freedom from computers though. /s

I still have, in a box in my closet, a working slide projector and several boxes of slides that belonged to my grandfather. I pulled it out not so long ago to show my nephews and they didn’t know what to make of it.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:16:41am

So, finally getting around to watching Alita: Battle Angel.

Not bad at all - Rosa Salazar is fantastic so far; she nails the role. The writing is a little clunky, but it’s a live-action version of a well-known manga.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:17:17am

re: #293 The Pie Overlord!

No boys in ten years? Unless birth rates are very low that seems to defy the odds quite a bit, no?

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jeffreyw  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:17:20am

re: #283 The Pie Overlord!

My printer just died. It was a spectacular death. I mean, it didn’t catch on fire or anything but started to hemorrhage (black ink) & then triggered a BSOD device failure.

It’s now safely unplugged & plastic-bagged and I am looking for a new printer. Any recommendations? This is for a home office. The deceased printer was an HP Photosmart deskjet.

I use it mostly for printing recipes.

Brother laser printers
brother-usa.com

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:18:05am

re: #278 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Pig

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gwangung  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:18:25am

re: #295 Dr Lizardo

So, finally getting around to watching Alita: Battle Angel.

Not bad at all - Rosa Salazar is fantastic so far; she nails the role. The writing is a little clunky, but it’s a live-action version of a well-known manga.

I didn’t think it was a great movie, but it was entertaining worthy of my movie-going money. Half notch below a MCU movie, but still fun.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:19:05am

re: #288 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I so hate this brain-dead conservative argument on guns:

“We can’t stop all murders, therefore there should be no laws against murder.”
“We can’t stop all rapes, therefore there should be no laws against rape” (cue cheers from libertarians)
“We can’t stop all stock manipulation, therefore there should be no laws against stock manipulation” (cue cheers from wealthy financiers and corporations)

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Belafon  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:19:28am

re: #282 Anymouse 🌹🎃

“If Jefferson hadn’t raped Sally Hennings, then where would her offspring be” isn’t a very good argument either, King. (Just to be clear, he didn’t say that, I did for argument’s sake.)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:19:40am

re: #296 Eclectic Cyborg

No boys in ten years? Unless birth rates are very low that seems to defy the odds quite a bit, no?

It would but a lot of these villages are really small. That’s cool to see though. Poland is very conservative in a lot of ways.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:20:47am

Let’s see the GOP again act like Steve King doesn’t speak for them and then support him again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:21:18am

re: #302 HappyWarrior

It would but a lot of these villages are really small. That’s cool to see though. Poland is very conservative in a lot of ways.

even though german law is very egalitarian, the basic social structure is still very traditional: women have run of the household, men take care of everything outside.

my ex was the first female member of our local village fire department

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:21:35am

re: #296 Eclectic Cyborg

No boys in ten years? Unless birth rates are very low that seems to defy the odds quite a bit, no?

There have not been any boys born in my family for 8 years, except a 6th son to my son in Canada, which seems kind of unfair.

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rhuarc  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:21:47am

re: #288 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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This angers me so much. Because we know what type of dog will be drafted for this use and that is my breed of choice. I do not want to see those dogs die needlessly. And the chance for the dog mistaking the wrong person is so high.

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Belafon  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:22:53am

re: #297 jeffreyw

Brother laser printers
brother-usa.com

Can second this. There’s a bunch of varieties, so you can choose what you want, and they just work. They even make linux support easy.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:24:08am

JUST GET A HIGHER PAYING JOB! IT’S SO EASY!!!!
Baby Whiplash is such a miserable little garbage hobbit.

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:24:10am

re: #300 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Because disarming law abiding citizens puts us all in the same boat as the dog, outgunned

can we agree to only disarm the demonstrably irresponsible, careless and reckless?

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Belafon  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:24:12am

re: #300 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I so hate this brain-dead conservative argument on guns:

“We can’t stop all murders, therefore there should be no laws against murder.”
“We can’t stop all rapes, therefore there should be no laws against rape” (cue cheers from libertarians)
“We can’t stop all stock manipulation, therefore there should be no laws against stock manipulation” (cue cheers from wealthy financiers and corporations)

“We’re also obviously inferior to Canada and Europe who still allow guns and yet don’t kill like we do.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:25:05am

re: #296 Eclectic Cyborg

No boys in ten years? Unless birth rates are very low that seems to defy the odds quite a bit, no?

Not impossible. My village hasn’t had any boy births in a long time (it would take me some digging to find out when the last boy was born).

I looked the town up. I can only find articles in Polish and one in Spanish. The Spanish article notes the town only has 300 people.

radionicaragua.com.ni (goes to Radio Nicaragua)

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:26:16am

re: #303 HappyWarrior

Let’s see the GOP again act like Steve King doesn’t speak for them and then support him again.

Oh I don’t agree with him but I’ll defend his right to saying it on the floor of the us house of representative s

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:26:53am

re: #308 The Pie Overlord!

And if you have no time to raise your kids, that’s a them problem

because to us, family values means no queer marriage or sex ed or contraception and DEATH TO ABORTIONISTS!!!

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Targetpractice  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:27:27am

re: #308 The Pie Overlord!

JUST GET A HIGHER PAYING JOB! IT’S SO EASY!!!!
Baby Whiplash is such a miserable little garbage hobbit.

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“Advice” brought to you by a jackass whose occupation involves telling others how wrong they are for not living as well as he.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:27:38am

re: #308 The Pie Overlord!

JUST GET A HIGHER PAYING JOB! IT’S SO EASY!!!!
Baby Whiplash is such a miserable little garbage hobbit.

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Says the guy who spread bullshit for a living, fuck off Ben.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:28:50am

re: #314 Targetpractice

“Advice” brought to you by a jackass whose occupation involves telling others how wrong they are for not living as well as he.

I wouldn’t cry if he got the Richard Spencer treatment. He’s insufferably smug for someone who has done nothing to earn his entitlement complex.

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sagehen  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:28:57am

re: #306 rhuarc

This angers me so much. Because we know what type of dog will be drafted for this use and that is my breed of choice. I do not want to see those dogs die needlessly. And the chance for the dog mistaking the wrong person is so high.

The chance for the dog mistaking the wrong person is lower than the chance for a cop mistaking the wrong person…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:30:00am

I’m not saying Ben Shapiro deserves violence but man he’s such a smug asshole who has never met an opportunity to look down on people less well off than him.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:30:10am

re: #299 gwangung

I didn’t think it was a great movie, but it was entertaining worthy of my movie-going money. Half notch below a MCU movie, but still fun.

I certainly wish James Cameron had directed it. I know it was his baby for a long, long time.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:30:43am

re: #283 The Pie Overlord!

My printer just died. It was a spectacular death. I mean, it didn’t catch on fire or anything but started to hemorrhage (black ink) & then triggered a BSOD device failure.

It’s now safely unplugged & plastic-bagged and I am looking for a new printer. Any recommendations? This is for a home office. The deceased printer was an HP Photosmart deskjet.

I use it mostly for printing recipes.

When my Canon printer died right after the warranty expired I replaced it with an HP TangoX which is a nice wireless portable printer that stores easily when not in use!

www8.hp.com

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makeitstop  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:30:48am

re: #297 jeffreyw

Brother laser printers
brother-usa.com

Seconded. I use a HL-3170. Reasonably priced, very high quality.

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DangerMan  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:30:54am

re: #308 The Pie Overlord!

JUST GET A HIGHER PAYING JOB! IT’S SO EASY!!!!
Baby Whiplash is such a miserable little garbage hobbit.

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Ben, why aren’t you a billionaire?
Or are you just “above it all?”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:34:17am

re: #322 DangerMan

Ben, why aren’t you a billionaire?
Or are you just “above it all?”

He’s a failure.// By how he defines self worth.

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Teukka  Aug 14, 2019 • 10:53:02am

re: #283 The Pie Overlord!

My printer just died. It was a spectacular death. I mean, it didn’t catch on fire or anything but started to hemorrhage (black ink) & then triggered a BSOD device failure.

It’s now safely unplugged & plastic-bagged and I am looking for a new printer. Any recommendations? This is for a home office. The deceased printer was an HP Photosmart deskjet.

I use it mostly for printing recipes.

re: #297 jeffreyw

Brother laser printers
brother-usa.com

re: #307 Belafon

Can second this. There’s a bunch of varieties, so you can choose what you want, and they just work. They even make linux support easy.

Second the Brother recommendation. Have a desk laser/scanner combo. It can be used as a copier, can be connected over the network. Good bang for the buck for toner and drum. Power hungry, so check specs of printer and have it on its own breaker if necessary.

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retired cynic  Aug 14, 2019 • 11:01:06am

re: #236 sagehen

He doesn’t give his kids “tens of millions” for anything.

He’s given 99.9% of his wealth to the Gates Foundation.

He endorsed Hillary Clinton in 2016.

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retired cynic  Aug 14, 2019 • 11:05:34am

re: #325 retired cynic

And Barack Obama.

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retired cynic  Aug 14, 2019 • 11:06:41am

re: #326 retired cynic

Wikipedia:
Buffett intimated that John McCain’s views on social justice were so far from his own that McCain would need a “lobotomy” for Buffett to change his endorsement.

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retired cynic  Aug 14, 2019 • 11:10:12am

re: #327 retired cynic

And I couldn’t find anything about either son, Howard or Peter, having financial or philosophical interests in the southwest border of the US, in Wikipedia.

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retired cynic  Aug 14, 2019 • 11:12:46am

re: #243 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Wrong. He pledges whatever wealth he has left when he dies to the Gates Foundation, which is a different thing.

Howard Buffett’s Border War: A Billionaire’s Son Is Spending Millions in Cochise County (Phoenix New Times, first of a multi-part exposé on Howard and Warren Buffett, first part Jan 10, 2019)

And I apologize for missing this. reading now

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mmmirele  Aug 14, 2019 • 11:15:49am

re: #289 Eclectic Cyborg

“Someone left old TVs outside 50 homes in Virginia while wearing a TV on his head. No one knows why.”

That’s like, the perfect lead in to a horror movie.

There’s a character in the space opera comic “Saga” named Prince Robot IV who has a television monitor for a head.


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