Trump Tells Israel to Deny Entry to His Hate Targets, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib

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In his latest grotesquely bigoted and thoroughly creepy move, Donald Trump has now pressured Israel into banning US Congresswomen Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib from visiting.

JERUSALEM — Israel on Thursday barred the entry of two American Democratic congresswomen who had planned to visit the West Bank, hours after President Trump had urged the country to block them.

Mr. Trump’s intervention was an extraordinary step to influence an allied nation and punish his political opponents at home.

The two congresswomen, Representatives Rashida Tlaib of Michigan and Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, both freshmen, are the first two Muslim women elected to Congress. Both are outspoken adversaries of Mr. Trump and have been vocal in their support of the Palestinians and the boycott-Israel movement.

The president has targeted them in speeches and Twitter postings that his critics have called racist and xenophobic.

It was reported last week that Mr. Trump was pressing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel to deny entrance to the two women, and Thursday morning he left little doubt. While Israeli officials were still deliberating the matter, he said in a Twitter post that “it would show great weakness if Israel allowed Rep. Omar and Rep. Tlaib to visit.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:18:57am

This is on Bibi too. Both him and Trump are toxic pricks.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:21:30am
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:21:58am
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KGxvi  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:24:04am

This is the sort of thing that makes me believe the BDS advocates have a legitimate point.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:27:52am

re: #4 KGxvi

This is the sort of thing that makes me believe the BDS advocates have a legitimate point.

It doesn’t hurt their arguments for sure. I don’t believe in BDS personally but our relationship with Israel is supposed to be based on shared democratic values. Trump and Bibi are making it based on their shared bigotry.

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William Lewis  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:28:05am

OT: good thing i have data on this phone. Seems my Century Link Zytel C3000Z modem barfed its guts out and won’t factory reset. I am supposed to get a new modem on Monday.

The only thing good I can say about Century Link is that they aren’t as bad as Charter/Spectrum and steal less money a month.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:32:46am

re: #1 HappyWarrior

This is on Bibi too. Both him and Trump are toxic pricks.

Absolutely, but I don’t think Netanyahu would have done it without getting the green light from Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:33:15am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Absolutely, but I don’t think Netanyahu would have done it without getting the green light from Trump

Absolutely. This is all so awful.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:34:17am
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:35:55am

I am so outraged and stressed! I have to bake something, it’s the only thing that calms me down!

What kind of pie?

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Camp Waconda  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:37:13am

re: #10 The Pie Overlord!

Strawberry rhubarb

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:37:40am
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KGxvi  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:38:06am

The Crooked Media guys have a new poll out, focused on Wisconsin. Warren is leading the primary there, with Sanders in second and Biden in third (29-24-20).

In the general “the Democratic Nominee” leads Trump 46-45, with 3% undecided and 6% saying third party (I suspect at lot of that 6% is likely winnable come November).

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William Lewis  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:38:19am

re: #10 The Pie Overlord!

I am so outraged and stressed! I have to bake something, it’s the only thing that calms me down!

What kind of pie?

I’d love a nice simple apple pie, though you make an amazing key lime :)

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:38:29am

re: #10 The Pie Overlord!

I am so outraged and stressed! I have to bake something, it’s the only thing that calms me down!

What kind of pie?

Key Lime
Coconut Cream
Chocolate

And when really stressed…all three!

(I am only 45 minutes away…just sayin’ :-)

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KGxvi  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:39:00am

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

The BDS movement isn’t free speech… and here I thought money was speech?

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:39:45am

I’m going to look for frozen Michigan cherries when I go shopping this afternoon.

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William Lewis  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:40:34am

re: #16 KGxvi

The BDS movement isn’t free speech… and here I thought money was speech?

Only if you are a Republican. Just ask the Chief Justice…

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:40:52am
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marcusgorillius  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:41:27am

The whole Democratic delegation should cancel and give a big fuck you to Trump and Bibi😠

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William Lewis  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:41:58am

re: #17 The Pie Overlord!

I’m going to look for frozen Michigan cherries when I go shopping this afternoon.

That is always good too. Michigan blueberries might be good to look for too!

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:42:18am

This looks good:

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:42:44am

re: #16 KGxvi

The BDS movement isn’t free speech… and here I thought money was speech?

Yeah that’s bullshit. As I said I don’t believe in BDS personally but people have a right to do it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:43:30am

re: #22 The Pie Overlord!

This looks good:

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North meets South. My old man loves Pecan pie and used to deliver cheesecakes.

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retired cynic  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:45:41am

Trump Administration: The Huddled Masses Can Go Fuck Themselves The Rude Pundit, of course

Let’s get one thing straight here right off: If you are a legal immigrant in nearly every other country in the world, you are allowed to participate in that country’s national health system. You’re paying for the benefit through your taxes and other fees, and, goddamnit, just like everyone else legally in the country, you don’t have to worry about paying much of anything else for your medical care. Nothing will be held against you. Nothing will turn you into a “public charge” or whatever fuckin’ term for “undesirable” you want to use. And that’s because most every other country in the world is not filled with ignorant savages who think that calling health care a “right” is akin to mass enslavement by socialists.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:46:33am

re: #24 HappyWarrior

North meets South. My old man loves Pecan pie and used to deliver cheesecakes.

Is he the guy from this song?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:47:33am

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:48:16am

re: #26 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Is he the guy from this song?

Nah he’s Clapton.

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lawhawk  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:48:35am

re: #25 retired cynic

All these immigrants have paid more in federal income tax than Trump has as a result of Trump’s billion dollar NOL loss. Trump can make $100 million in taxable income this year, but pay no income tax because that NOL loss can offset whatever taxable income. And he can keep doing that until the NOL is used up (or 20 years have passed on the carryforward).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:49:00am

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m still looking for the section of the Constitution that states one must first pledge allegiance to Israel before being considered a good American.

Ugly politics but brilliant PR: this trumpets the GOP talking point of “Democrats hate Israel therefore they love terrorism” all over the media.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:49:34am

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

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Exactly. And God I hate to give Thatcher credit but Irish-American members of Congress weren’t being banned from Northern Ireland during the Troubles.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:50:11am

re: #30 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ugly politics but brilliant PR: this trumpets the GOP talking point of “Democrats hate Israel therefore they love terrorism” all over the media.

Except American Jews know this is shit. The only people who will buy this crap are right wing zealots including the douchebag who looks down on people having two jobs.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:51:47am

This if anything puts moderates on the issue much more sympathetic towards the Palestinians.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:52:06am

DOW has gone back into the red. Down 80 on the day so far.

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sagehen  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:53:01am

re: #10 The Pie Overlord!

I am so outraged and stressed! I have to bake something, it’s the only thing that calms me down!

What kind of pie?

Raspberry.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:53:34am

This whole Israel thing is a trump made distraction to the dow tanking, which was a distraction from multiple mass shootings, which was a distraction from….

every minute of every day is one distraction from another.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:53:51am

re: #6 William Lewis

The only thing good I can say about Century Link is that they aren’t as bad as Charter/Spectrum and steal less money a month

So far I haven’t had any major downtime with Spectrum (although they had an outage this morning for about 1/2-hr, which is better than when I was on Xfinity some years back)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:55:13am

re: #36 MsJ

This whole Israel thing is a trump made distraction to the dow tanking, which was a distraction from multiple mass shootings, which was a distraction from….

every minute of every day is one distraction from another.

Distraction is the wrong word imo. That implies he knows what he’s doing. I think it’s a bizarro ADD.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:55:39am

What happened a 1:40 pm today that made the dow drop…it’s straight down…now at -132 points?

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:56:34am

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Distraction is the wrong word imo. That implies he knows what he’s doing. I think it’s a bizarro ADD.

The one thing trump does know is marketing, because that is all he ever did. he knows how to do distractions because he understands media and people. One shiny object after another.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:57:07am

I fully expected Booby Nincompoopo to do this.

I’m sure that he will also ban AOC and Ayana next!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:57:43am

re: #32 HappyWarrior

Except American Jews know this is shit. The only people who will buy this crap are right wing zealots including the douchebag who looks down on people having two jobs.

that is who he is playing to

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:00:18am

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is who he is playing to

People who already support his ass. Please stop acting like this idiocy is working. It’s not.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:01:02am

re: #43 HappyWarrior

People who already support his ass. Please stop acting like this idiocy is working. It’s not.

It is distracting from the failures and scandals that are starting to catch up with him

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:01:21am
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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:02:09am

re: #29 lawhawk

All these immigrants have paid more in federal income tax than Trump has as a result of Trump’s billion dollar NOL loss. Trump can make $100 million in taxable income this year, but pay no income tax because that NOL loss can offset whatever taxable income. And he can keep doing that until the NOL is used up (or 20 years have passed on the carryforward).

From downstairs

According to his golf course’s latest filing with Bedminster Township to justify its “farmland assessment” tax break, Trump maintains eight goats and farms hay on 113.2 acres. Another 70.6 acres of adjacent woods are also set aside as agricultural, so that a total of 183.8 of the golf resort’s 514 acres are taxed at a much lower rate ― *** just over $6 an acre, rather than $462.***

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:02:38am

re: #44 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is distracting from the failures and scandals that are starting to catch up with him

Is it really though? Way I see it, most people see this and they see it as yet another Trump bullshit run.

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:05:15am

re: #44 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is distracting from the failures and scandals that are starting to catch up with him

Only to those who don’t care

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:08:00am

Good rundown on Cordelia Scaife May who used her immense wealth to fund anti-immigrant groups and policies. There’s little chance of good-faith policy making with this kind of power from nativist xenophobes.

nytimes.com

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:15:02am

re: #6 William Lewis

OT: good thing i have data on this phone. Seems my Century Link Zytel C3000Z modem barfed its guts out and won’t factory reset. I am supposed to get a new modem on Monday.

The only thing good I can say about Century Link is that they aren’t as bad as Charter/Spectrum and steal less money a month.

I use the C1100Z modem from Century Link. It likes to drop connections at random intervals. As well as the random reboot during live stephaniemiller.com podcast.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:16:21am

re: #4 KGxvi

This is the sort of thing that makes me believe the BDS advocates have a legitimate point.

I do not publicly advocate for BDS, but de facto participate in it.

BDS wasn’t invented for Israel. It was invented for apartheid South Africa. The GOP howled then that BDS was “un-American” or whatnot as well (because that party has been full of racists my whole life).

BDS was successful as a worldwide movement as part of several strategies to bring about change in South Africa.

BDS with Israel is for exactly the same thing. Some people call what is done with Palestinians apartheid, but I prefer the more correct term “genocide.”

I do not have anything against the Israeli people, but I do against the Israeli government.

The same happened with North Carolina’s bathroom bill. An outcry across the nation arose, with people vowing they would not buy anything from there or spend money there.

My wife and I had just put in an order for wood products for several hundred dollars, and when the bill passed, we cancelled the order. The person we ordered it from complained of the same thing “why do you hate North Carolinians?” It wasn’t about that, it was about rewarding a government filled with bigots.

The same applied in South Africa, and the same applies in Israel.

My money is the only political power I have, and no Republican talking point is going to shame me into spending it where they want.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:16:50am
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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:18:13am

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I do not publicly advocate for BDS, but de facto participate in it.

BDS wasn’t invented for Israel. It was invented for apartheid South Africa. The GOP howled then that BDS was “un-American” or whatnot then as well (because that party has been full of racists my whole life).

BDS was successful as a worldwide movement to bring about change in South Africa.

BDS with Israel is for exactly the same thing. Some people call what is done with Palestinians apartheid, but I prefer the more correct term “genocide.”

I do not have anything against the Israeli people, but I do against the Israeli government.

The same happened with North Carolina’s bathroom bill. An outcry across the nation arose, with people vowing they would not buy anything from there or spend money there.

My wife and I had just put in an order for wood products for several hundred dollars, and when the bill passed, we cancelled the order. The person we ordered it from complained of the same thing “why do you hate North Carolinians?” It wasn’t about that, it was about rewarding a government filled with bigots.

The same applied in South Africa, and the same applies in Israel.

My money is the only political power I have, and no Republican talking point is going to shame me into spending it where they want.

+1

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:18:59am

Imagine the RWNJ screeching if Obama had blocked Republicans from going to Israel.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:19:52am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:21:24am
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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:22:04am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:24:20am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:24:47am

re: #57 Sufficient unto the day…

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These cultists.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:25:33am

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I don’t think that will work for them.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:25:45am

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This fucking asshole.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:26:19am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:26:57am

re: #62 MsJ

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I wish I shared your optimism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:27:00am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:27:39am

re: #47 HappyWarrior

Is it really though? Way I see it, most people see this and they see it as yet another Trump bullshit run.

and we make a mistake in assuming that a majority of Americans are informed or concerned

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:27:48am

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fuckers. Every last one of em.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:28:03am

re: #63 HappyWarrior

I wish I shared your optimism.

It wasn’t optimism…it was trolling.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:29:39am

re: #65 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and we make a mistake in assuming that a majority of Americans are informed or concerned

Look at the midterms ffs dude. You can stop it with this over the top cynical crap that isn’t rooted in how Americans are responding. He’s polling under water in Nebraska ffs. Sorry if I sound angry but I’ve had it with how Trump is winning politically. It’s not true at all.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:31:23am

re: #68 HappyWarrior

I am cautiously optimistic, but I wish I was less sure of Russias potential ability to fuck us all.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:31:58am

Americans DO care. His approval dropped 5 points this past month. Nearly 50% strongly disapprove of him.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:32:43am

Bernie’s supporters doxed @thehoarsewhisperer after @briebriejoy asked them to and now they’re all trying to justify it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:32:53am

re: #69 Eclectic Cyborg

I am cautiously optimistic, but I wish I was less sure of Russias potential ability to fuck us all.

Me too but suggesting ‘most Americans are unconcerned is patently wrong.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:33:37am

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

Bernie’s supporters doxed @thehoarsewhisperer after @briebriejoy asked them to and now they’re all trying to justify it.

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Bernie is just lefty flavored Trump.

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:35:09am

re: #60 HappyWarrior

I don’t think that will work for them.

But will it have to plod through the courts before a judge says it’s insane?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:35:51am

re: #74 DangerMan

But will it have to plod through the courts before a judge says it’s insane?

True.

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:36:48am

re: #68 HappyWarrior

Look at the midterms ffs dude. You can stop it with this over the top cynical crap that isn’t rooted in how Americans are responding. He’s polling under water in Nebraska ffs. Sorry if I sound angry but I’ve had it with how Trump is winning politically. It’s not true at all.

He won by a big accident and more or less perfect storm
Doesn’t mean every long shot thought is gonna happen too

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:37:57am

I don’t know if these are legit or subtle anti Amazon AstroTurf accounts but if they’re legit this is creepy af. These people sound like literal hostages

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:38:19am

re: #76 DangerMan

He won by a big accident and more or less perfect storm
Doesn’t mean every long shot thought is gonna happen too

Right. But my disagreement is Wendell suggesting most Americans are uninformed or don’t care. We have a President polling consistently below 50% in a decent albeit declining economy.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:39:00am

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

I don’t know if these are legit or subtle anti Amazon AstroTurf accounts but if they’re legit this is creepy af. These people sound like literal hostages

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Yeah that’s creepy sauce.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:39:43am

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:40:32am

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

I don’t know if these are legit or subtle anti Amazon AstroTurf accounts but if they’re legit this is creepy af. These people sound like literal hostages

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I’m not sure either but I have worked for at least one company that required employees in certain roles to tweet like this. They even had a custom hashtag for them so management could track them easily.

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sagehen  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:41:28am

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

…mid-level crimes have also gone up but they aren’t being reported…

If they aren’t being reported, why do you think they’re happening?!?

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:42:19am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:42:27am

re: #50 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

I use the C1100Z modem from Century Link. It likes to drop connections at random intervals. As well as the random reboot during live stephaniemiller.com podcast.

I have a PK5001Z modem from CenturyLink. It also drops connexions at random intervals, though more often CenturyLink itself does that to my town.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:43:27am

Trump update for Lady Liberty:

Give me your fired, your poofters, Your muddled asses yearning to dodge taxes, The wretched refuse of your jailed fascists. Send these, the gropers, trumpist-bossed to me, I lift my gun beside the sold-out door!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:43:42am

re: #83 goddamnedfrank

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Bernie has some of the worst people I’ve ever seen advising him. I’m not confident at all if he’s the nominee or if he somehow beats Trump.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:46:08am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:47:03am

re: #87 goddamnedfrank

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They treat Bernie how Trumpers treat Trump. A messiah.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:47:09am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:47:39am

^^THIS^^

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:47:58am

re: #65 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and we make a mistake in assuming that a majority of Americans are informed or concerned

those like us, informed and concerned are clued into all this and wont be distractted or swayed

those ‘sort of informed’ and not concerned are his base and not really relevant - they too won’t be swayed the other way

those currently not informed or concerned, it’s likely not having any effect on them - as they’re not paying attention

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:50:41am
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Interesting Times  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:50:50am

Swing district member speaking:

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:51:58am

re: #92 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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OFFS just stop talking you deranged lunatic.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:52:15am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:52:32am

re: #93 Interesting Times

Swing district member speaking:

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Schumer speaking out was nice too.

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:53:37am

re: #92 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

When did “Christians” stop believing you could go to Hell for lying and bearing false witness?

when trump descended on the escalator

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KGxvi  Aug 15, 2019 • 11:56:30am

re: #97 DangerMan

when trump descended on the escalator

Nah… it was before that… remember how they used to say that Muslims were taught to lie in order to carry out jihad? Yeah, that, it turns out, was more IMAX in space projection.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:00:33pm

re: #10 The Pie Overlord!

I am so outraged and stressed! I have to bake something, it’s the only thing that calms me down!

What kind of pie?

Lemon meringue.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:02:22pm

re: #13 KGxvi

The Crooked Media guys have a new poll out, focused on Wisconsin. Warren is leading the primary there, with Sanders in second and Biden in third (29-24-20).

In the general “the Democratic Nominee” leads Trump 46-45, with 3% undecided and 6% saying third party (I suspect at lot of that 6% is likely winnable come November).

That’s not good for Democrats if they only lead Trump by one point in the general. Sigh.

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b.d.  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:04:58pm

re: #89 MsJ

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Everyone associated with Bernie is horrible, the icing on the jerk cake was the hiring of Sirota.

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plansbandc  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:06:31pm

re: #10 The Pie Overlord!

Blueberry.

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KGxvi  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:11:27pm

re: #100 Patricia Kayden

That’s not good for Democrats if they only lead Trump by one point in the general. Sigh.

This far out, and without know who the Democratic nominee will be (or if there would be any even semi-legitimate third party nominees), I feel like that number is fine. Trump only got 47% in Wisconsin in 2016, so that 45% is probably his ceiling. For whomever the Dems nominate - the key will be that 3% undecided and 6% third party vote, along with expanding the electorate.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:12:52pm

re: #100 Patricia Kayden

That’s not good for Democrats if they only lead Trump by one point in the general. Sigh.

I reas it and don’t think it’s that bad.

Democrat Poised To Make Gains With Third Party Voters, Those Who Did Not Vote in 2016

If the 2020 Presidential election were today, 45% of voters in Wisconsin would likely cast their vote for Donald Trump; 38% would “definitely” vote for him. 46% of voters in Wisconsin would likely vote for the Democratic candidate with 39% of them “definitely” voting for the Democrat.

Those who voted for Hillary Clinton and those who went for Trump in 2016 plan to stick with the same party at similar levels: 94% of each plan to stay on their side of aisle in 2020. Most of the movement we see is among those who voted for a third party candidate in 2016 or who did not vote at all.

Two-thirds of Jill Stein voters plan to vote for the Democrat in 2020; however, this is a fairly small group (Stein got 1% of the vote in 2016). Of the 3.6% who voted for Gary Johnson, 30% plan to vote Democratic, 22% Republican — but most of Johnson’s voters who are leaning Democratic say they’ll “definitely” do so, while most of those who are inclined to go Republican are more tentative.

Those who did not vote in 2016 — including those who have become newly eligible in the intervening years — lean towards the Democrat by a 45-30 margin. Another 9% of these voters plan to support a third party candidate, and 16% plan to stay home in 2020.

Am I reading this wrong?

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KGxvi  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:22:25pm

re: #104 MsJ

Two-thirds of Jill Stein voters plan to vote for the Democrat in 2020; however, this is a fairly small group (Stein got 1% of the vote in 2016). Of the 3.6% who voted for Gary Johnson, 30% plan to vote Democratic, 22% Republican — but most of Johnson’s voters who are leaning Democratic say they’ll “definitely” do so, while most of those who are inclined to go Republican are more tentative.

If you run with those numbers - 2/3 of Stein voters and 30% of Johnson voters to Clinton and 22% of Johnson voters to Trump, Clinton wins Wisconsin by about 6600 votes. I seriously doubt that either the Libertarian or Green Party will run anyone semi-credible, so I don’t expect third party candidates to get nearly 6% of the vote nationally this time. And my hunch is that most of that 6% is going to break against Trump.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:24:00pm

re: #82 sagehen

If they aren’t being reported, why do you think they’re happening?!?

What is a “mid-level” crime? Is that somewhere between petty theft and grand theft?

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:25:59pm

re: #105 KGxvi

If you run with those numbers - 2/3 of Stein voters and 30% of Johnson voters to Clinton and 22% of Johnson voters to Trump, Clinton wins Wisconsin by about 6600 votes. I seriously doubt that either the Libertarian or Green Party will run anyone semi-credible, so I don’t expect third party candidates to get nearly 6% of the vote nationally this time. And my hunch is that most of that 6% is going to break against Trump.

I additionally think the economy is going to hurry trump. Farmers and ranchers have to see what’s happening. They’re hardly stupid.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:26:44pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

I don’t know if these are legit or subtle anti Amazon AstroTurf accounts but if they’re legit this is creepy af. These people sound like literal hostages

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It’s probably Walmart executives trying to troll Amazon.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:27:30pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:30:44pm

Your have fucking got to be kidding me.

Fuck. Me.

Look at the keywords.

I’m speechless.

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mmmirele  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:31:54pm

*drily* I see our foreign policy towards Israel is working out splendidly. /sarc

Please, can we have a more coherent foreign policy than “Israel must exist so Jesus can return”? This Evangelical butt kissing is ruining everything. (And, why yes, the Evangelicals will eat this up.)

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plansbandc  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:36:40pm

OMG

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mmmirele  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:41:27pm

An acquaintance of mine, Steven Hassan, who runs the Freedom of Mind center, is a cult expert and author of the BITE Model of cult recruiting, has a new book coming out in October from Simon & Schuster:

The BITE Model of cult recruiting is really useful because it relies on *actions* not beliefs, to discern whether an organization is cultic. I have it on poster boards which I tape to my car when I protest. My pet cult can’t complain when I call thrm out for black and white thinking, because their own words demonstrate it. (Example: There’s never a reason for an abortion. NEVER.)

This is going to attract a lot of attention and I think the book is really necessary right now.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:42:24pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

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More of that “most transparent administration in forever” I see.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:45:31pm

re: #92 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Lying for Jesus has been promoted since the early days of Protestants. It is generally justified by the passage about Rahab in Joshua.

What harm could it do if a man told a good lusty lie in a worthy cause and for the sake of the Christian Churches?—Martin Luther

Folks like Mark Taylor are not actors fleecing rubes for their money. They believe to their core that liberals are anti-Christianity and liberals who are Christians are somehow working for Satan, along with atheists who don’t believe in Satan.

Therefore they view the political realm as fundamentally a religious realm which must be fought over. That is how Christians justify all sorts of atrocities in the name of either politics or their religion: The ends justify the means.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:46:01pm

re: #112 plansbandc

OMG

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CUTENESS OD!

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lawhawk  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:51:01pm

Whistleblower accused GE of massive market manipulation and fraud. GE stock was down 10% today and is now under $10 a share.

GE was removed from the DJIA in June 2018. The stock has been flailing for the past few years, and has been in trouble ever since GE Capital took it on the chin from the Great Recession.

If this whistleblower case pans out, it could mean the end of the company (the company denies all the claims).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:51:21pm

this is just pathetic

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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:54:07pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is just pathetic

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I think Kimberly misspelled Moscow Mitch.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:54:53pm

re: #113 mmmirele

An acquaintance of mine, Steven Hassan, who runs the Freedom of Mind center, is a cult expert and author of the BITE Model of cult recruiting, has a new book coming out in October from Simon & Schuster:

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The BITE Model of cult recruiting is really useful because it relies on *actions* not beliefs, to discern whether an organization is cultic. I have it on poster boards which I tape to my car when I protest. My pet cult can’t complain when I call thrm out for black and white thinking, because their own words demonstrate it. (Example: There’s never a reason for an abortion. NEVER.)

This is going to attract a lot of attention and I think the book is really necessary right now.

Oh boy, I’d like to see YouTuber Telltale Atheist get his hands on that book. He regularly uses the BITE Model to assess various churches to see if they qualify as cults.

His videos regularly get demonistised (as most atheist content at YouTube does) because religious people conflate attacking religious ideas with attacking them personally.

For example, a recent video on the Seventh Day Adventist Church.

Seventh Day Adventists: Is It A Cult? (2019)

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lawhawk  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:54:58pm

This dumbassery gets thousands of retweets and not a word of it is accurate (and the satire is lost on anyone reading because it’s not satire at all, but just misinformation and exploiting confirmation bias).

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b.d.  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:57:59pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is just pathetic

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Trump has gone nuts, even for him.

And this is ok?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:59:42pm

re: #117 lawhawk

Whistleblower accused GE of massive market manipulation and fraud. GE stock was down 10% today and is now under $10 a share.

GE was removed from the DJIA in June 2018. The stock has been flailing for the past few years, and has been in trouble ever since GE Capital took it on the chin from the Great Recession.

If this whistleblower case pans out, it could mean the end of the company (the company denies all the claims).

I’m certain GE is the only company which manipulates its shares. /s

And if I was a little investor with ten shares or something I would absolutely be able to tell if they were manipulating their shares. /s

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lawhawk  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:59:45pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:00:53pm

re: #122 b.d.

Trump has gone nuts, even for him.

And this is ok?

Kimberly Guillifoyle of FOX using the same childish nicknames Trump does? But -no- conservatism isn’t a cult.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:01:51pm

Trump is going to be really pissed when he finds out he can’t bully China and get away with it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:04:15pm

moron in chief just now retweeted this “breaking news”…

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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:05:06pm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:10:31pm

re: #128 Teddy’s Person

Damnnnnn….that’s powerful.

And maddening.

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:10:42pm

re: #121 lawhawk

This dumbassery gets thousands of retweets and not a word of it is accurate (and the satire is lost on anyone reading because it’s not satire at all, but just misinformation and exploiting confirmation bias).

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is dumbassery higher or lower on the scale than asshattery?
and whence assholiness?

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:12:47pm

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Kimberly Guillifoyle of FOX using the same childish nicknames Trump does? But -no- conservatism isn’t a cult.

i’d bet it’s actually coordinated

either they just do it and he retweets (what we all think is happening)
or he wants something out, so someone gets in contact with someone at fox to say something so he can retweet and say ‘it wasnt me, im just repeated what’s been reported’

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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:13:54pm

re: #129 Eclectic Cyborg

Damnnnnn….that’s powerful.

And maddening.

I burst into tears.

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:13:57pm

re: #129 Eclectic Cyborg

Damnnnnn….that’s powerful.

And maddening.

aiding and abetting
dont put it past em
like that guy in arizona(?) with the water

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:14:58pm

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Kimberly Guillifoyle of FOX using the same childish nicknames Trump does? But -no- conservatism isn’t a cult.

Being as Kimberly is Fredo’s main squeeze now, she’s a member of the family and it’s apparently part of the contract…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:16:24pm

just blathering blathering blathering…

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:16:36pm

Israeli journalist Barak Ravid

“I want to tell you a secret: A month ago when Netanyahu decided to allow Omar and Tlaib into the country they already supported BDS and he knew it back then. There is only one reason for Netanyahu’s backtracking today — the pressure from Donald Trump.”

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William Lewis  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:18:10pm

Sigh. At least I have today off and can treat the news today with an application of good beer and cheap whiskey.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:20:17pm

re: #124 lawhawk

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Fucker. Evil fucker.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:20:31pm

re: #115 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Bear in mind why Luther made that statement.

Philip of Hesse was a powerful supporter of Luther’s nascent Protestant Reformation; thus maintaining his support was critical both politically and financially.

Philip took a second wife (bigamy) and after a series of political manoeuvers to justify it failed, looked to Luther’s theologian supporters to justify the bigamy. At the time Luther opposed it but his own people supported it for the necessity of Philip’s support.

Later, when all this private conversation about Philip came out, Luther made the statement attributed to him (he was basically taking the fall for his own theologians’ support of Philip for political and financial reasons), arguing that Philip’s bigamy was better than Philip divorcing his first wife, because Bible (bigamy is sanctioned in the Bible, but divorce is not - at least in the New Testament).

As such, lying about the conversations with Philip was used to justify looking the other way on his bigamy, because they needed his money and support.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:22:17pm

re: #130 DangerMan

is dumbassery higher or lower on the scale than asshattery?
and whence assholiness?

Assholishness is next to godliness for some.

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:23:18pm

re: #137 William Lewis

Sigh. At least I have today off and can treat the news today with an application of good beer and cheap whiskey.

if that doesnt work, try cheap beer and good whiskey
practice makes perfect

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:26:38pm

re: #20 marcusgorillius

The whole Democratic delegation should cancel and give a big fuck you to Trump and Bibi😠

Please tweet that to Steny Hoyer who is heading up the Democratic contingent. I’ve already emailed him about this and asked that in solidarity with two of his women of color colleagues, he cancel the trip to Israel. Send a clear message to Netanyahu that his decision to ban our Representatives is outrageous.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:29:55pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

I bet Sleepy Joe Biden doesn’t make 100% of his products in China like the Trumps. Right, Kimberly?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:31:32pm

Lre: #143 Patricia Kayden

I bet Sleepy Joe Biden doesn’t make 100% of his products in China like the Trumps. Right, Kimberly?

Or have a daughter that does.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:31:33pm

Oldie but more true now than ever. Save for “War on Christmas.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:36:22pm
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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:36:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:41:13pm

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is what American fascism looks like.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:42:29pm

re: #147 MsJ

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I’m sure Barr is outraged.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:43:22pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:43:57pm

I bought sour cherries.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:44:08pm

re: #100 Patricia Kayden

That’s not good for Democrats if they only lead Trump by one point in the general. Sigh.

It really doesn’t count until we have one candidate to rally behind.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:48:31pm

re: #152 I Would Prefer Not To

It really doesn’t count until we have one candidate to rally behind.

And I gotta add but an incumbent behind by anything is bad news for him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:48:33pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:48:38pm

Any landing you can walk away from…..
Insurance companies do not agree but they rank with Congress, banksters, and the herpes simplex virus in public esteem.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:54:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:54:58pm

moron is manic today

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:55:28pm

re: #156 MsJ

The fact that we have to pass laws to make insurance companies act reasonably should really tell you something about the state of our health care system.

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William Lewis  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:57:17pm

re: #158 Eclectic Cyborg

The fact that we have to pass laws to make insurance companies act reasonably should really tell you something about the state of our health care system.

We will not have decent healthcare till the last insurance company is forced out of business. /// 1/2

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Mescalero09  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:01:46pm

re: #156 MsJ

Epipens have a ridiculous short shelf life too.
Double fucking.
Personal experience. They have exp date and a viewer that says if “discolored” to discard.
Temperature has a lot to do with expiration besides date.
And if you need to keep it handy, it’s out in hot weather. In a car. Backpack. Etc.
Mine discolored in about a year. Got scary dark.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:07:13pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

Walmart, a great indicator as to how the U.S. is doing, just released outstanding numbers. Our Country, unlike others, is doing great! Don’t let the Fake News convince you otherwise.

Walmart makes money paying American workers a sub-subsistence wage while selling largely imported goods to Americans, many of whom receive SNAP or other government aid money.

A good indicator of how the US is doing, indeed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:07:53pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:10:27pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is manic today

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I think he’s sweating because he knows if the economy is in recession in November 2020, the one argument he has for non-racists - his handling of the economy - goes out the window.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:10:58pm

re: #163 Blind Frog Belly White

I think he’s sweating because he knows if the economy is in recession in November 2020, the one argument he has for non-racists - his handling of the economy - goes out the window.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:14:55pm

Jeffery Epstein was an entitled prick to the end. An article at Forbes details the way Epstein would monopolized the one of two attorney-client visiting rooms to avoid being in his cell. Epstein and his lawyers would meet for up to 8 hours a day making it difficult for other lawyers to meet with their clients.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:15:12pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:16:27pm

re: #113 mmmirele

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:18:32pm

re: #165 Teddy’s Person

Jeffery Epstein was an entitled prick to the end. An article at Forbes details the way Epstein would monopolized the one of two attorney-client visiting rooms to avoid being in his cell. Epstein and his lawyers would meet for up to 8 hours a day making it difficult for other lawyers to meet with their clients.

Good god that’s infuriating.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:19:38pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is manic today

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:20:35pm

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

GEORGIA: Republican US House Candidate Withdraws After Identifying Himself As Proud “White Nationalist” -

interesting how they cant seem to get electoral traction when they come out publicly
even in georgia

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:22:16pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

This morning, I’m announcing that I’m no longer running for President. While this campaign didn’t have the outcome we were hoping for, every moment has been worthwhile & I’m thankful to everyone who supported this campaign and our entire team.bit.ly

here’s a hint, john

dont hope
it aint much of a plan

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:23:25pm

re: #166 Dread Pirate

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:24:49pm

re: #163 Blind Frog Belly White

I think he’s sweating because he knows if the economy is in recession in November 2020, the one argument he has for non-racists - his handling of the economy - goes out the window.

well the tax cut is a disaster and he’s got no other record to run on
‘im the bestest ever’ doesnt count

something one anyone other than he can see and point to

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:25:09pm

re: #172 HappyWarrior

Then you’re not open to criticism.

I hate the BDS movement, but now I want to boycott Israel.

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:25:12pm

Trump Solutions: If you can’t buy it, fuck it, eat it or wall it off, put it in jail.

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William Lewis  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:26:39pm

re: #113 mmmirele

Reading that material was very helpful. I was not familiar with the official model but had similar ideas from reading books like Hoffer’s True Believer.

This last week I passed this lesson like that on to my son:

There are many shades of gray in this world and only two of them are black and white.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:27:29pm
On Thursday, CNN reported that Stephanie Winston Wolkoff, a former friend of First Lady Melania Trump [and owner of the firm that was paid $26 million for the inauguration], was subpoenaed for information on President Donald Trump’s children [and Jared] in the criminal investigation into whether their father’s inaugural fund was used for illegal purposes. Source: Raw Story

Lock them up! Lock them up!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:29:29pm

re: #174 I Would Prefer Not To

I hate the BDS movement, but now I want to boycott Israel.

I really think this move by Bibi is alienating a lot of moderates. Add to that Trump incited it. Yeah looks like another Trump fuck up.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:30:01pm

re: #175 jaunte

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Trump Solutions: If you can’t buy it, fuck it, eat it or wall it off, put it in jail.

You can be the first inmate.

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:30:06pm

re: #177 Teddy’s Person

Lock them up! Lock them up!

‘donald trump’s children’

you’d think they were 10 years old (or barron), but no, it’s these adults:

- Donald Trump Jr.
- Eric
- Ivanka (and Jared Kushner)

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:31:47pm

When are they going to admit he’s insane?

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:33:08pm

re: #181 jaunte

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When are they going to admit he’s insane?

did he see ‘green land’ on Zillow?

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:33:42pm

re: #182 DangerMan

He must have heard a lot of land was opening up since the ice is melting.

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retired cynic  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:34:29pm

re: #183 jaunte

He must have heard a lot of land was opening up since the ice is melting.

I bet that’s it! Plenty of room for hotels and casinos!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:34:35pm

re: #181 jaunte

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When are they going to admit he’s insane?

Christ, it’s like a bad joke.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:35:15pm

re: #181 jaunte

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When are they going to admit he’s insane?

FFS.

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wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:35:41pm

re: #181 jaunte

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When are they going to admit he’s insane?

When he starts spending their money.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:35:43pm

re: #185 Blind Frog Belly White

Christ, it’s like a bad joke.

That never ends.

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:36:20pm

re: #183 jaunte

He must have heard a lot of land was opening up since the ice is melting.

where the hell’s all that melting ice going? florida….

maybe ben’s been talking to him about scooping up all that left over real estate when everyone leaves due to flooding

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Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:36:43pm
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TedStriker  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:37:41pm

re: #181 jaunte

In conversations with aides, Trump has—with varying degrees of seriousness—floated the idea of buying Greenland, WSJ reports. Trump has asked advisers whether the U.S. can acquire Greenland and reportedly asked his W.H. counsel to look into the idea.wsj.com

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) August 15, 2019

When are they going to admit he’s insane?

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:37:43pm

I want a reporter to ask him what the capital of Greenland is.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:37:44pm

re: #184 retired cynic

I bet that’s it! Plenty of room for hotels and casinos!

Either that or he thinks its full of putting greens.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:38:00pm

He’s frickin’ out of his gourd.

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:38:02pm

Greenland City, of course.

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:38:25pm

re: #181 jaunte

In conversations with aides, Trump has—with varying degrees of seriousness—floated the idea of buying Greenland, WSJ reports. Trump has asked advisers whether the U.S. can acquire Greenland and reportedly asked his W.H. counsel to look into the idea

you already have enough toys.
you dont even play with them nicely (cf Puerto Rico)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:38:55pm

re: #163 Blind Frog Belly White

I think he’s sweating because he knows if the economy is in recession in November 2020, the one argument he has for non-racists - his handling of the economy - goes out the window.

He just laid the groundwork for his “it’s the fault of fake news that we are in a recession, not mine!!!!” 2020 campaign slogan.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:40:04pm

re: #190 Charles Johnson

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This timeline sucks. Fucking Barry Allen can’t just let his Mom die, so the rest of us can live a normal life?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:40:24pm

re: #190 Charles Johnson

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Buy Greenland. Are we living in a universe designed by the writers of the onion?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:40:53pm

re: #196 DangerMan

you already have enough toys.
you dont even play with them nicely (cf Puerto Rico)

I think he sees that it’s a Danish posession, and figures it’s covered in nice, Aryan blondes.

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:40:59pm
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sagehen  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:42:23pm

re: #181 jaunte

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When are they going to admit he’s insane?

Buy it from WHO???

Aren’t they a sovereign nation who owns themselves???

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:42:25pm

re: #201 jaunte

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He thinks he IS the U.S.Government.

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:43:12pm

re: #195 jaunte

Greenland City, of course.

mrs dm and i were discussing this last week

states and countries that name cities after themselves are just lazy and uncreative

new york city
kansas city
iowa city
et al

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Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:43:50pm
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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:44:37pm

re: #197 GlutenFreeJesus

He just laid the groundwork for his “it’s the fault of fake news that we are in a recession, not mine!!!!” 2020 campaign slogan.

every president (especially the last one) has been totally responsible for the economy

except him

and he got beat by the media

sad. impotent. loser.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:44:43pm

re: #202 sagehen

Buy it from WHO???

Aren’t they a sovereign nation who owns themselves???

Buy it FOR who?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:45:27pm

re: #202 sagehen

Buy it from WHO???

Aren’t they a sovereign nation who owns themselves???

They’re an autonomous region of Denmark.

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:46:12pm

He’s bored with torture and tanking the economy, so let’s buy another country.
Brainworms.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:47:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:47:52pm

re: #207 MsJ

Buy it FOR who?

Ivanka. Britain has the Prince of Wales. We’ll have the Princess of Greenland.

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:48:07pm

re: #202 sagehen

Buy it from WHO???

Aren’t they a sovereign nation who owns themselves???

hey remember there were two shootings two weeks ago, and one yesterday

oh wait, lewandowski is gonna run for senate (0 chance) and trump wants to buy greenland. let’s work on that.

im popping a cork tonight. i’ll run it off in the morning
fuck this noise.

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:50:49pm

we need a new chart

‘i cant even’ doesnt nearly cover it anymore

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:51:22pm

Afternoon Lizardim.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:51:25pm

This is nonsense. Most of these shooters - even the Dayton shooter - would never have been institutionalized, because most of them were apparently living successfully in society, and generally not seen as threats to themselves or others.

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:52:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:56:01pm
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Dread Pirate  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:56:14pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:58:10pm

re: #218 Dread Pirate

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“LAW & ORDER…unless I’m under investigation, then they’re asleep on the job!!!”

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Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:00:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:01:06pm

re: #218 Dread Pirate

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Oh fuck you Donnie.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:01:43pm

Severe thunderstorm warning just popped off on the radio, near Minitare (about thirty miles WNW of us).

Warnings include hail which will injure people and animals outside due to its size.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:01:51pm

re: #220 Charles Johnson

I’m really curious what criteria he’d use to determine who goes into these ‘institutions’.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:02:13pm

re: #223 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m really curious what criteria he’d use to determine who goes into these ‘institutions’.

That’s the scary thing.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:02:20pm

re: #223 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m really curious what criteria he’d use to determine who goes into these ‘institutions’.

Skin color, natch.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:04:18pm

re: #225 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Skin color, natch.

And knowing Trump, he’ll want their voting patterns.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:04:27pm

re: #225 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Skin color, natch.

and, just like in the olden days: “hysterical women”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:04:38pm

re: #226 HappyWarrior

And knowing Trump, he’ll want their voting patterns.

Was my second thought.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:06:41pm

re: #224 HappyWarrior

That’s the scary thing.

Of course, he doesn’t mean it. It’s just that the NRA told him to knock it right the fuck off with his talk of background checks, and to say “mental illness” instead. I’m pretty sure he’s just riffing on the line they fed him.

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sagehen  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:07:14pm

re: #223 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m really curious what criteria he’d use to determine who goes into these ‘institutions’.

Pretty sure the Soviet Union had a set of criteria…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:11:25pm

re: #223 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m really curious what criteria he’d use to determine who goes into these ‘institutions’.

Brown skin? In
Muslims? In
Mexicans? In
Atheists? In
Democrats? In
Asians? In
Native Americans? In
Immigrants? In

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:11:38pm

re: #218 Dread Pirate

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Do these dumb fucks think our vast intelligence community can all only investigate one thing at a time?

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gwangung  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:12:16pm

re: #232 Eventual Carrion

Given that’s what THEY can only manage…yes.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:12:17pm

re: #232 Eventual Carrion

Do these dumb fucks think our vast intelligence community can all only investigate one thing at a time?

Well, THEY can’t walk down the street and chew gum, so clearly nobody else can.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:12:41pm

re: #169 MsJ

John McAfee jumps right into just about every thread of Donald Trump now (he was first on that one) claiming to give away Bitcoin and Etherium, followed by a bunch of people claiming they received that and thanking him for it (real people? sockpupetts? don’t know).

I’m not sure what McAfee’s deal is, but he’s a Libertarian, so I’m almost certain it’s a grift.

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wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:12:58pm

re: #233 gwangung

Given that’s what THEY can only manage…yes.

It’s always projection…

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BlueGrl21  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:13:34pm

re: #223 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m really curious what criteria he’d use to determine who goes into these ‘institutions’.

Me. I’m a bipolar Democrat who supports gun control.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:13:38pm

We could call the institutions:

Genuine
United States
Learning
And achievement
Gardens

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:14:08pm

re: #232 Eventual Carrion

Do these dumb fucks think our vast intelligence community can all only investigate one thing at a time?

Yes. Yes, they do.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:14:48pm

re: #174 I Would Prefer Not To

I hate the BDS movement, but now I want to boycott Israel.

I’m interested in hearing the thoughts of people who say “they hate the BDS movement.” What is it about that they hate, and why is it different than the BDS movement against South Africa or North Carolina (both of which were successful tools in getting them to change their ways from outside pressure).

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:16:08pm

re: #175 jaunte

Trump Solutions: If you can’t buy it, fuck it, eat it or wall it off, put it in jail.

“Infrastructure Week, mental health edition.”

I agree. Put all the ammosexuals with unhealthy gun hoarding complexes in observation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:20:01pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:21:07pm

The massive supercell to our NW is now close enough we can hear the thunder.

Just in the nick of time, both Cheyenne and Denver radars went down for maintenance.

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William Lewis  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:21:31pm

re: #230 sagehen

Pretty sure the Soviet Union had a set of criteria…

Solzhenitsyn, for all his foibles taught us how much there is to fear in the Russian model.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:21:51pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s almost like Trump knows the only thing keeping him out of prison is to remain in office.

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:22:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:23:07pm

re: #246 Belafon

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well, they aren’t actual Democrats…

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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:23:41pm

re: #220 Charles Johnson

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Well, with Epstein’s island in the news, Trump wanted to get him one of those.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:25:14pm

Oh damn. I didn’t know Talib’s grandmother lived in Israeli territory.

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William Lewis  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:25:31pm

re: #246 Belafon

I pray that this puts the final nails in the coffin of his campaign. It has turned into something sick and despicable. I told the DSA that I would not renew my membership as long as they support him.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:26:41pm

re: #235 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Not necessarily a grift, a large number of Liberatarians want to burn everything to the ground because, well, because. Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are seen as a means to cause the destruction of the nation state world model.

In its place is Libertarian Utopia.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:26:49pm

re: #246 Belafon

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I had defended Bernie when people have said he was a leftist in the authoritarian mold. I’m seeing a lot of similarities between him and Trump and I don’t like it.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:27:46pm

The North Platte radar is also down for maintenance.

We are in a black hole of coverage.

In the meantime, Pumpkin Pinochet didn’t tweet this part of Wal*Mart’s meeting:

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:28:42pm

re: #246 Belafon

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:29:53pm

re: #250 William Lewis

I pray that this puts the final nails in the coffin of his campaign. It has turned into something sick and despicable. I told the DSA that I would not renew my membership as long as they support him.

Let’s hope. Bernie has become our Trump. I don’t need a second Obama necessarily but I’d rather our next nominee and leader be in his mold of thoughtful leadership. I’m missing Obama more than ever as I listen to Michelle talk about him and her in Becoming. Best President of my life. To my surprise, my father who was born in the tail end of the Truman administration said the same thing.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:32:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:32:27pm

re: #254 MsJ

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And by our values, not just ideology but our values as people- tolerance, respect, open mindness. Bernie is a lefty Trump. He’s the worst thing that can happen if you really want the change he wants.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:35:55pm

re: #218 Dread Pirate

Blue lives matter. /s

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:38:17pm

Cheyenne radar is back. The supercell is centred over Bayard, travelling in a direction which looks to take its centre a bit south of my town.

wunderground.com

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William Lewis  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:38:57pm

re: #251 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Not necessarily a grift, a large number of Liberatarians want to burn everything to the ground because, well, because. Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are seen as a means to cause the destruction of the nation state world model.

In its place is Libertarian Utopia.

Radical Libertarians are the worst evil facing this nation. Even Nazi’s pale by comparison to the love of anarchy, violence, hatred and greed of those fuckers. No, there are no slashes. I an serious.

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:41:28pm

re: #158 Eclectic Cyborg

The fact that we have to pass laws to make insurance companies act reasonably should really tell you something about the state of our health care system.

We have to pass laws telling people to do the right thing.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:43:14pm

re: #165 Teddy’s Person

Jeffery Epstein was an entitled prick to the end. An article at Forbes details the way Epstein would monopolized the one of two attorney-client visiting rooms to avoid being in his cell. Epstein and his lawyers would meet for up to 8 hours a day making it difficult for other lawyers to meet with their clients.

It’s worse than that. According to the opening of the article at Forbes:

The day after he was taken off suicide watch, disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein spent at least two hours locked up alone with a young woman, in a private room reserved for inmates and their attorneys, according to an attorney who was visiting the prison that day.

“The optics were startling. Because she was young. And pretty,” said the visiting attorney, who asked that his name not be used because he didn’t want to create friction with the prison administration. NBC News has reported that Epstein paid his lawyers to sit with him in a room for eight hours a day for attorney-client meetings, allowing him to avoid his cell.

The visiting attorney went to the Manhattan Correctional Center on July 30, a day after Epstein was reportedly taken off suicide watch and transferred into the Special Housing Unit (SHU). During the hours the visiting attorney was present, it wasn’t Epstein’s main lawyer, Reid Weingarten, or other named attorneys who visited him.

forbes.com

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Dave In Austin  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:43:20pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:44:37pm

I think Trump’s looking at a flat projection map of the world, and thinking Greenland is bigger than the whole USA.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:45:02pm

Severe thunderstorm warning now posted for our town, though that supercell seems to be moving just south of our town.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:46:32pm

re: #260 William Lewis

Radical Libertarians are the worst evil facing this nation. Even Nazi’s pale by comparison to the love of anarchy, violence, hatred and greed of those fuckers. No, there are no slashes. I an serious.

There’s often overlap. I knew the radical libertarian movement was bad news when David Duke praised the PaulsZ

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:46:54pm

re: #264 Blind Frog Belly White

I think Trump’s looking at a flat projection map of the world, and thinking Greenland is bigger than the whole USA.

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Entirely plausible.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:47:25pm

re: #240 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I’m interested in hearing the thoughts of people who say “they hate the BDS movement.” What is it about that they hate, and why is it different than the BDS movement against South Africa or North Carolina (both of which were successful tools in getting them to change their ways from outside pressure).

1) Most of the people who want to boycott Israel have no problem with other countries who do far worse.
2) Israel is far from perfect, but it is a democracy.
3) Putting pressure on Israel to negotiate peace with the Palestinians will not work unless you also put pressure on the Palestinians.

I could go on having spent time there years ago. South Africa and Israel are two different situations, the main one is that White South Africans never had a claim to any of the land, but even it you disagree see number 3.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:47:41pm
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William Lewis  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:47:43pm

re: #266 HappyWarrior

Point taken.

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sagehen  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:47:58pm

re: #240 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I’m interested in hearing the thoughts of people who say “they hate the BDS movement.” What is it about that they hate, and why is it different than the BDS movement against South Africa or North Carolina (both of which were successful tools in getting them to change their ways from outside pressure).

It’s about proportionality.

There’s a pretty extreme double standard from the people who want serious activism against Israel, for offenses that pale in comparison to Saudi Arabia, Egypt, UAE, Kuwait, Pakistan, etc etc etc. There’s people want to hold Israel to a vastly higher standard than other “allies” who receive comparable foreign aid.

What South Africa was doing was a LOT more extreme than what Israel is doing; and what North Carolina tried was was off base from what the rest of the States found acceptable.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:51:00pm

re: #270 William Lewis

Point taken.

Nah dude, I was expanding on your point. Sorry if it came off as schooling.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:51:21pm

re: #202 sagehen

Buy it from WHO???

Aren’t they a sovereign nation who owns themselves???

They have a version of home rule. Denmark is sovereign over Greenland.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:55:32pm

Our electricity was just interrupted. You lucky devils are about to lose me soon.

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William Lewis  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:56:21pm

re: #269 Dave In Austin

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I cant watch given the disgusting incel tags in the text. What does it show?

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:56:35pm

re: #255 HappyWarrior

Let’s hope. Bernie has become our Trump. I don’t need a second Obama necessarily but I’d rather our next nominee and leader be in his mold of thoughtful leadership. I’m missing Obama more than ever as I listen to Michelle talk about him and her in Becoming. Best President of my life. To my surprise, my father who was born in the tail end of the Truman administration said the same thing.

not ours
not even a “fair weather democrat”
just when it’s convenient and beneficial to him

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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:56:40pm
A Fox News poll released Thursday showed President Trump losing head-to-head matchups against four of the top Democratic primary contenders following the second round of debates last month.

The poll found Trump with the support of 39 percent of registered voters against Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), while registering just 38 percent support from voters in a matchup against former Vice President Joe Biden.

Warren and Harris registered support among 46 and 45 percent of voters in matchups against the president, respectively, while Sanders was supported by 48 percent of voters in a head-to-head contest with Trump. Biden was supported by the most voters, 50 percent, in a one-on-one race against the president. Source: The Hill

Trump twitter temper tantrum in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:57:03pm

Next thing about buying Greenland - leaving aside that the citizens might not want to become Americans - the budget deficit this year is over $1 Trillion again. What’s he plan to buy it with? $24 in beads and trinkets? Bitcoin? Promissory notes?

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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:57:39pm

re: #278 Blind Frog Belly White

Next thing about buying Greenland - leaving aside that the citizens might not want to become Americans - the budget deficit this year is over $1 Trillion again. What’s he plan to buy it with? $24 in beads and trinkets? Bitcoin? Promissory notes?

Rubles

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:59:33pm

re: #274 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Our electricity was just interrupted. You lucky devils are about to lose me soon.

Yeah, but you keep returning. We can’t get rid of you. //

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:00:20pm

re: #192 jaunte

I want a reporter to ask him what the capital of Greenland is.

Someone needs to photoshop a “for sale” sign on the Greenland Ice Sheet with a sign something like “Margrethe II Royal Danish Land Agency, Copenhagen.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:01:10pm

re: #279 Teddy’s Person

Rubles

He’ll borrow from Deutsche Bank and Oleg Deripaska, but he’ll only agree to it if he can slap his name on it.

Then, when the investment tanks, he’ll run off with millions and the residents of Greenland Trumpland Greenland,dammit! will gleefully chisel his name off the fjords.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:01:51pm

re: #274 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Don’t you at least have a small ups where you are? That might be a good investment.

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Chrysicat  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:01:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:02:50pm

re: #277 Teddy’s Person

Trump twitter temper tantrum in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1…

God I’m not a fan of Biden but parts of me thinks Biden could bury Trump once and for all.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:04:57pm

re: #285 HappyWarrior

All’s I want is stability. And to stop breaking what’s not broke.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:06:12pm

Instead of Greenland, the US could buy Epstein’s island, round up the Trump family and their enablers, and air drop them on the island where they can work out their many, many issues Lord of the Flies style.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:06:42pm

re: #283 Dave In Austin

Don’t you at least have a small ups where you are? That might be a good investment.

UPS? You mean power supply?

No we don’t have one here. They’re far too expensive for the little use we’d get out of one.

The only time our power was out for an amount of time that would matter was the second tornado which ripped the external wiring out of our house and damaged the internal wiring.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:06:51pm

re: #286 Dave In Austin

All’s I want is stability. And to stop breaking what’s not broke.

I think a lot of people want that and that’s Biden’s appeal.

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Sea Mexican  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:08:13pm

re: #165 Teddy’s Person

Jeffery Epstein was an entitled prick to the end. An article at Forbes details the way Epstein would monopolized the one of two attorney-client visiting rooms to avoid being in his cell. Epstein and his lawyers would meet for up to 8 hours a day making it difficult for other lawyers to meet with their clients.

Reminds me of a scene in Batman Beyond (the series).

One of Terry’s classmates is attacked and almost killed. Bruce Wayne asked who might want to hurt him. Terry’s reply: “The line starts with me and goes around the block … twice.”

Seems like Epstein made those kind of friends everywhere.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:08:59pm

re: #269 Dave In Austin

What’s a Becky? And a Karen? What’s the diff?

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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:09:32pm

re: #289 HappyWarrior

I think a lot of people want that and that’s Biden’s appeal.

After Trump, knowing what you’re getting has a certain appeal to the low-info voters.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:10:35pm

re: #288 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Yeah, We have a couple here. They are the small home units, that will power your computer and router for a couple of hours if the lights go out. It will run the TV for 45 min or so as well.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:11:18pm

re: #291 MsJ

What’s a Becky? And a Karen? What’s the diff?

Karens ask your manager to fire you if you don’t immediately kowtow to your wishes.
Beckys record black people doing innocuous things and call the cops.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:12:04pm

re: #291 MsJ

What’s a Becky? And a Karen? What’s the diff?

I’m glad someone asked those questions. This stuff flies around Social media so fast it makes it hard to keep up.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:12:39pm

re: #291 MsJ

I do believe a Becky is a unit of measurement the Incels use to describe potential targets. Not sure on the Karens.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:15:05pm

re: #295 Teddy’s Person

I’m glad someone asked those questions. This stuff flies around Social media so fast it makes it hard to keep up.

Just noticed the random capitalization. I might have Trump brain. Send thoughts and prayers.

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:15:14pm

re: #261 Belafon

We have to pass laws telling forcing people to do the right thing.

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jeffreyw  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:15:25pm

re: #271 sagehen

I think there is the notion that we have more leverage over Israel. The opposition to the Saudis et al is pro forma, that against Israel is from thinking that it just may actually bear fruit.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:16:01pm

re: #294 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Karens ask your manager to fire you if you don’t immediately kowtow to your wishes.
Beckys record black people doing innocuous things and call the cops.

How do you know this stuff?

I kinda thought I knew what Becky was (the dark headed lady who called the cops on some black folks having the nerve to BBQ in public) but Karen’s are new to me.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:16:44pm

re: #300 MsJ

How do you know this stuff?

I kinda thought I knew what Becky was (the dark headed lady who called the cops on some black folks having the nerve to BBQ in public) but Karen’s are new to me.

Funny, I was the other way around. I’ve heard the term Karen being used before (most notably by Mrs. Fish), but I haven’t run into or heard of any Beckys recently.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:17:07pm

re: #296 Dave In Austin

I do believe a Becky is a unit of measurement the Incels use to describe potential targets. Not sure on the Karens.

Those are Stacy’s (and the male* counterpart are Chad’s).

What do I win (or lose) for knowing that?

*Fixed… But not in time. Damn autocorrect.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:17:44pm

re: #295 Teddy’s Person

I’m glad someone asked those questions. This stuff flies around Social media so fasts it makes it hard to keep up.

“Becky” comes from Barbecue Becky, calling the cops on a black family in Oakland for barbecuing in a park.

“Karen” comes from the fact that the peak time for the popularity of the name Karen was in the late Fifties and early Sixties, and are somewhat the embodiment of the entitled woman in a store demanding what she wants or your job.

babycenter.com (popularity of the name Karen, which means “pure”)

Karen was almost unheard of as a name until the later part of the Great Depression, and by 1975 had become obscure again as a baby name.

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:17:45pm

re: #278 Blind Frog Belly White

Next thing about buying Greenland - leaving aside that the citizens might not want to become Americans - the budget deficit this year is over $1 Trillion again. What’s he plan to buy it with? $24 in beads and trinkets? Bitcoin? Promissory notes?

they’d be paying us because something something

see: china re tariffs, and mexico re the wall

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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:18:06pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:18:51pm

re: #302 MsJ

Those are Stacy’s (and the make counterpart are Chad’s).

What do I win (or lose) for knowing that?

You get your own MGTOW.

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jeffreyw  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:18:58pm

re: #278 Blind Frog Belly White

Next thing about buying Greenland - leaving aside that the citizens might not want to become Americans - the budget deficit this year is over $1 Trillion again. What’s he plan to buy it with? $24 in beads and trinkets? Bitcoin? Promissory notes?

Nice island you got here. Be a shame if nukes melted all that ice! Let’s talk!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:20:09pm

re: #302 MsJ

Those are Stacy’s (and the make counterpart are Chad’s).

What do I win (or lose) for knowing that?

A little bit of your sanity. But I knew that one already, too.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:20:51pm

re: #303 Anymouse 🌹🎃

“Becky” comes from Barbecue Becky, calling the cops on a black family in Oakland for barbecuing in a park.

“Karen” comes from the fact that the peak time for the popularity of the name Karen was in the late Fifties and early Sixties, and are somewhat the embodiment of the entitled woman in a store demanding what she wants or your job.

babycenter.com (popularity of the name Karen, which means “pure”)

Karen was almost unheard of as a name until the later part of the Great Depression, and by 1975 had become obscure again as a baby name.

I knew the BBQ Becky thing but not Karen. It’s a more interesting explanation than I anticipated. When I don’t know a popular reference, I assume it’s from a movie I’ve never seen.

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retired cynic  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:20:54pm

re: #293 Dave In Austin

Yeah, We have a couple here. They are the small home units, that will power your computer and router for a couple of hours if the lights go out. It will run the TV for 45 min or so as well.

Keeps the computer from getting browned out and blacked out spasms of electricity. Worth its weight in gold.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:21:38pm

re: #306 Anymouse 🌹🎃

You get your own MGTOW.

No thank you. Not interested. Let them go on their own (they will anyway, of their own choosing, yelling and screaming that it’s not their choosing).

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:24:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:26:13pm

The term “Becky” is actually older than BBQ Becky.

It means a white girl who loves Starbucks and Uggs and is clueless about racial and social issues. Beyoncé used the term in 2016 in the song “Sorry”, on her album Lemonade. I first heard it used this way…ABL used it a lot back in the day.

According to Urban Dictionary, “Karen” is a mother of three. blonde. owns a volvo. annoying as hell. wears acrylics 24/7. currently at your workplace speaking to your manager.

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retired cynic  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:27:38pm

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thank you! Now that sounds like the real deal.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:27:42pm

re: #310 retired cynic

Keeps the computer from getting browned out and blacked out spasms of electricity. Worth its weight in gold.

I have a pair of APC SmartUPS with extended batteries - one powers the network and the other powers the laptop and monitors. During a power outage my network is good for 700+ minutes according to the UPS’s display.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:28:03pm

re: #293 Dave In Austin

Yeah, We have a couple here. They are the small home units, that will power your computer and router for a couple of hours if the lights go out. It will run the TV for 45 min or so as well.

I love my ups because all it takes is a bird pissing on the lines to knock out the power.
And it happens more than once a week.
Also keeps the outages from frying my electronics.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:29:55pm

re: #303 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Naw, your Basic Becky (with good hair) is more clueless than malevolent.

(added) Like BWS said…see, intro to Baby’s Got Back;
“Oh…my…Gawd, Becky, look at her butt”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:30:18pm

re: #271 sagehen

It’s about proportionality.

There’s a pretty extreme double standard from the people who want serious activism against Israel, for offenses that pale in comparison to Saudi Arabia, Egypt, UAE, Kuwait, Pakistan, etc etc etc. There’s people want to hold Israel to a vastly higher standard than other “allies” who receive comparable foreign aid.

What South Africa was doing was a LOT more extreme than what Israel is doing; and what North Carolina tried was was off base from what the rest of the States found acceptable.

Thank you for responding.

I don’t find that ploughing under an entire family’s homes for the actions of one criminal to be proportional. I see dividing up the Occupied West Bank into tiny homelands with no possibility for investment exactly the same as that employed by South Africa. I see the same with demanding checkpoints all over the OWB, and driving a wall through people’s private property to separate them no different than Donald Trump’s or East Germany’s walls. I see holding Gaza as an open air prison camp with no supplies allowed in for improvements about the same as any other concentration camp.

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Chrysicat  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:30:29pm

re: #303 Anymouse 🌹🎃

“Becky” comes from Barbecue Becky, calling the cops on a black family in Oakland for barbecuing in a park.

“Karen” comes from the fact that the peak time for the popularity of the name Karen was in the late Fifties and early Sixties, and are somewhat the embodiment of the entitled woman in a store demanding what she wants or your job.

babycenter.com (popularity of the name Karen, which means “pure”)

Karen was almost unheard of as a name until the later part of the Great Depression, and by 1975 had become obscure again as a baby name.

Tell that to my sister (born 1979) who had two others in her elementary-school and middle-school classes. Obscurity is more for 1983 and later.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:32:43pm

re: #305 Teddy’s Person

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Jean handled that with a lot of class.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:33:01pm

AMazon has a ups on sale for $60 right now
amazon.com

I just might order a couple more

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:34:40pm

re: #275 William Lewis

I cant watch given the disgusting incel tags in the text. What does it show?

A young woman noting she didn’t have a nickname at work like her co-workers so she didn’t feel as though she fit in. Then they gave her one, so she was proudly telling the world that her new nickname “pendeja” means “beautiful” in Spanish.

It’s hard to tell if this is a Poe or if she’s serious.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:36:11pm

re: #322 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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TedStriker  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:36:12pm

re: #323 Anymouse 🌹🎃

A young woman noting she didn’t have a nickname at work like her co-workers so she didn’t feel as though she fit in. Then they gave her one, so she was proudly telling the world that her new nickname “pendeja” means “beautiful” in Spanish.

It’s hard to tell if this is a Poe or if she’s serious.

*snickers*

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Chrysicat  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:36:50pm

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

I love my ups because all it takes is a bird pissing on the lines to knock out the power.
And it happens more than once a week.
Also keeps the outages from frying my electronics.

I keep trying to convince folks around here to do it, although the power’s a lot more stable now than it was before 2016.

Can’t do it myself, though, as even one would toast my discretionary income for 2-3 months, and we would want one on the cable modem, the DSL modem, and at least one outlet that a laptop can plug into.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:37:04pm

re: #192 jaunte

I want a reporter to ask him what the capital of Greenland is.

The National Lampoon map of the world had it as “Godforsakn.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:38:03pm

The supercell has moved out of our area and the sun is out.

There is another tornadic supercell moving into Colorado taking aim on Sterling.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:38:54pm

re: #319 Chrysicat

Tell that to my sister (born 1979) who had two others in her elementary-school and middle-school classes. Obscurity is more for 1983 and later.

Obscurity is a relative term. In 1979, there were still 3500/million girls born.

Peaked in 1957, the year of my birth, when my name, Douglas, also peaked.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:38:55pm

re: #328 Anymouse 🌹🎃

The supercell has moved out of our area and the sun is out.

There is another tornadic supercell moving into Colorado taking aim on Sterling.

In the meantime, our beautiful sunny day is fading into a dark and cloudy evening, with anticipation of thunderstorms arriving late during the night. Those neighbors who didn’t mow their yards yesterday are all out now; I can hear at least a half-dozen lawn mowers even as I type.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:39:07pm

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

AMazon has a ups on sale for $60 right now
amazon.com

I use something similar to that to keep my internet landline up.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:39:22pm

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

The term “Becky” is actually older than BBQ Becky.

It means a white girl who loves Starbucks and Uggs and is clueless about racial and social issues. Beyoncé used the term in 2016 in the song “Sorry”, on her album Lemonade. I first heard it used this way…ABL used it a lot back in the day.

According to Urban Dictionary, “Karen” is a mother of three. blonde. owns a volvo. annoying as hell. wears acrylics 24/7. currently at your workplace speaking to your manager.

Well, I learned something new about the usage of Becky. That’s probably where it came from then, the Beyoncé song.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:40:51pm

re: #326 Chrysicat

I keep trying to convince folks around here to do it, although the power’s a lot more stable now than it was before 2016.

Can’t do it myself, though, as even one would toast my discretionary income for 2-3 months, and we would want one on the cable modem, the DSL modem, and at least one outlet that a laptop can plug into.

my ups is almost identical to the one in my #321. I have three computers plugged into it, plus my modem and my landline telephone/fax machine.

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William Lewis  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:44:38pm

re: #323 Anymouse 🌹🎃

S…i…g…h…

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Chrysicat  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:45:51pm

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

my ups is almost identical to the one in my #321. I have three computers plugged into it, plus my modem and my landline telephone/fax machine.

Well, yes, that would work in the fashion of “not too much draw to make it useful”.

The problem is more that the cable modem and the DSL modem have to be in different places because there’s no phone jack whatsoever anywhere close to the cable modem, nor a cable stud anywhere close to the phone jack the DSL uses.

And neither is in a convenient place to have your computer set up if you’re staying online in a power failure, though since most of ours are laptops, they can spend some time not plugged into a live circuit.

And the desktop could use the same UPS as the DSL.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:46:04pm

made a black bean/mushroom meatloaf.
MrBWS isn’t afraid of vegan meals, but I decided to ease him into this by also using some Laura’s lean ground beef.
Also includes chopped Vidalia onion, garlic, rolled oats, some leftover Basmati rice, and some Italian seasonings.

It’s in the oven now and just starting to share the fantastic aroma.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:46:56pm

re: #329 Blind Frog Belly White

Obscurity is a relative term. In 1979, there were still 3500/million girls born.

Peaked in 1957, the year of my birth, when my name, Douglas, also peaked.

Mine peaked in the mid 1940’s as a boy’s name, and has gradually declined since.
babycenter.com
As a girl’s name, it peaked in the 1930’s and had another bump in the 1970’s.
babycenter.com

The other James in my town is a woman in her late twenties.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:47:01pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:47:30pm

re: #318 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Thank you for responding.

I don’t find that ploughing under an entire family’s homes for the actions of one criminal to be proportional. I see dividing up the Occupied West Bank into tiny homelands with no possibility for investment exactly the same as that employed by South Africa. I see the same with demanding checkpoints all over the OWB, and driving a wall through people’s private property to separate them no different than Donald Trump’s or East Germany’s walls. I see holding Gaza as an open air prison camp with no supplies allowed in for improvements about the same as any other concentration camp.

I hate some of the things the IDF has done. Destroying houses is wrong. I can’t forgive them for some of their actions. But I also have strong feeling against parents who send their kids to terror training camps.

I think the wall is more complicated. At the time, there were a lot of terrorist bombings that the Palestinians had no interest in stopping. On a weekly basis several suicide bombers walked into crowded cafe and blew themselves up. This was an organized effort.

Gaza is run by Hamas. they won an election and run it like a terrorist training camp. That’s on them.

Until the Arab world puts pressure on the Palestinians there will be no peace.

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retired cynic  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:48:37pm

re: #339 I Would Prefer Not To

In this case, we need Both Sides.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:48:47pm

I didn’t ride after work yesterday, because the place I’d ride (Canada Road between 92 and 84) was showing 96-98 degrees on Wundermap.

Here’s today…

So, maybe not today, either.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:49:22pm

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

made a black bean/mushroom meatloaf.
MrBWS isn’t afraid of vegan meals, but I decided to ease him into this by also using some Laura’s lean ground beef.
Also includes chopped Vidalia onion, garlic, rolled oats, some leftover Basmati rice, and some Italian seasonings.

It’s in the oven now and just starting to share the fantastic aroma.

I’d ask to come over for dinner, but my wife just made cube steak and creamed sweet corn (from our massive corn purchase the other day).

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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:50:08pm

re: #337 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Mine peaked in the mid 1940’s as a boy’s name, and has gradually declined since.
babycenter.com
As a girl’s name, it peaked int he 1930’s and had another bump in the 1970’s.
babycenter.com

The other James in my town is a woman in her late twenties.

Mine peaked in the early 1880s.

babycenter.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:50:17pm

re: #335 Chrysicat

Well, yes, that would work in the fashion of “not too much draw to make it useful”.

The problem is more that the cable modem and the DSL modem have to be in different places because there’s no phone jack whatsoever anywhere close to the cable modem, nor a cable stud anywhere close to the phone jack the DSL uses.

And neither is in a convenient place to have your computer set up if you’re staying online in a power failure, though since most of ours are laptops, they can spend _some_ time not plugged into a live circuit.

Oh, I shut down ALL of my computers if the power is off more than 5-10 minutes. Then the only things left to draw off the ups/battery backup are the phone and the modem, and I switch over to my Kindle or one of the fully charged laptops. This way the backup lasts for almost 2 hours.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:50:56pm

re: #342 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I’d ask to come over for dinner, but my wife just made cube steak and creamed sweet corn (from our massive corn purchase the other day).

I grilled out early this week, as celebration for my new job - “top sirloin” steaks (that wound up being chunks of beef patched together with meat glue… still turned out really yummy), salmon filets, and corn on the cob. We were feeding on the leftovers all the way up until yesterday.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:52:23pm

re: #343 Teddy’s Person

Mine peaked in the early 1880s.

babycenter.com

Mines had a long steady decline since the 1880’s. Still popular.

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retired cynic  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:52:34pm

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s the way I handle mine. The only time it runs all the way out is if I am gone and the power stays off for too long. My computer is my family. It’s always on.

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Chrysicat  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:52:37pm

re: #345 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I grilled out early this week, as celebration for my new job - “top sirloin” steaks (that wound up being chunks of beef patched together with meat glue… still turned out really yummy), salmon filets, and corn on the cob. We were feeding on the leftovers all the way up until yesterday.

Yikes. Discounting the good flavour, who sold you a bill of goods on your beef goods? I ask so that if they have a local affiliate, I can have our family avoid them.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:52:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:53:47pm

re: #347 retired cynic

That’s the way I handle mine. The only time it runs all the way out is if I am gone and the power stays off for too long. My computer is my family. It’s always on.

same here

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:53:48pm

re: #348 Chrysicat

Yikes. Discounting the good flavour, who sold you a bill of goods on your beef goods? I ask so that if they have a local affiliate, I can have our family avoid them.

It was Aldi. Ordinarily, if we’re going for grilling meats, I tell Mrs. Fish to go to the local meat market, who don’t do that sort of thing with their meats, but she was going for cheap this time. You get what you pay for, I guess.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:53:49pm

re: #339 I Would Prefer Not To

Hamas running Gaza is certainly no way to any peaceful solution.

Since that area of the world is the centre for three major religions, there isn’t going to be peace. Much of the politics of that region surrounds religious views rather than other matters.

(video, 3:32, “This Land Is Mine” by Nina Paley, animated to “The Exodus Song” by Andy Williams)

This Land Is Mine by Nina Paley

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William Lewis  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:54:02pm

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m very much not a vegan much less a vegetarian though i do tend to enjoy Mexican and Italian vegitarian dishes more than others. Growing up on a farm and grabbing several chickens by their legs, beheading them and plucking them before they were thrown on the grill in under 10 minutes during my mother’s wake will show my feelings.

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gocart mozart  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:54:52pm
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Dread Pirate  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:55:23pm

re: #341 Blind Frog Belly White

I didn’t ride after work yesterday, because the place I’d ride (Canada Road between 92 and 84) was showing 96-98 degrees on Wundermap.

Here’s today…

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So, maybe not today, either.

104.6F at 25% here for a heat index of 107F. My tomatoes are looking sad.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:55:40pm

re: #353 William Lewis

I’m very much not a vegan much less a vegetarian though i do tend to enjoy Mexican and Italian vegitarian dishes more than others. Growing up on a farm and grabbing several chickens by their legs, beheading them and plucking them before they were thrown on the grill in under 10 minutes during my mother’s wake will show my feelings.

Indian vegan dishes are actually about the only vegan dishes I will eat. I adore a good paneer, and I won’t eat samosas unless they’re chickpeas and potatoes.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:55:44pm

Fuck this fucking motherfucker.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:56:07pm

re: #322 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

NIFFLERS!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:58:58pm

re: #353 William Lewis

I’m very much not a vegan much less a vegetarian though i do tend to enjoy Mexican and Italian vegitarian dishes more than others. Growing up on a farm and grabbing several chickens by their legs, beheading them and plucking them before they were thrown on the grill in under 10 minutes during my mother’s wake will show my feelings.

Since MrBWS had his heart attack and emergency bypass surgery, we (meaning ME) have been watching our cholesterol. Normally we eat a lot of salmon and chicken, and beef is something I personally avoid eating more than once a week because of gastrointestinal issues that inevitably ensue if consumed more often.

Some of our favorite weekly dishes are vegan without actually meaning to be: Greek salad, curried veg (black beans, chickpeas and spinach), broccoli slaw, spicy black bean burgers

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mmmirele  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:59:52pm

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

The term “Becky” is actually older than BBQ Becky.

It means a white girl who loves Starbucks and Uggs and is clueless about racial and social issues. Beyoncé used the term in 2016 in the song “Sorry”, on her album Lemonade. I first heard it used this way…ABL used it a lot back in the day.

According to Urban Dictionary, “Karen” is a mother of three. blonde. owns a volvo. annoying as hell. wears acrylics 24/7. currently at your workplace speaking to your manager.

There was also Becky With The Bad Grades, aka Abigail Fisher, who tried to get my alma mater’s affirmative action overturned at the Supreme Court. That’s because this Becky was too pure to do a couple of semesters at junior college and back door her way into UT Austin. Like I did, 40 years ago. (Seriously, that’s what UT Austin told her to do.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:00:11pm

we are also huge fans of homemade guacamole, hummus and falafel.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:01:12pm

re: #329 Blind Frog Belly White

Obscurity is a relative term. In 1979, there were still 3500/million girls born.

Peaked in 1957, the year of my birth, when my name, Douglas, also peaked.

My first name seems to have peaked in the 1920’s, and has been on steady decline since. And I was born in 1961.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:01:18pm

JFC

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:01:26pm

re: #343 Teddy’s Person

Mine had a peak in the 1800s, and another one in the late 40s, but has declined ever since: babycenter.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:02:31pm

Imma guessing nobody told him the stock market crashed 800 points yesterday…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:03:02pm

pot—kettle

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:03:15pm

re: #349 The Pie Overlord!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:03:42pm

re: #346 HappyWarrior

Mines had a long steady decline since the 1880’s. Still popular.

We all seem to be declining. /s

My wife’s name’s popularity was boosted by a certain popular actress and popular queen.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:04:01pm

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

Imma guessing nobody told him the stock market crashed 800 points yesterday…

Nahhhhh, that was Obama’s fault. Remember, the stock market went up after Trump won.

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:04:04pm

re: #357 Teddy’s Person

Fuck this fucking motherfucker.

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“My coworkers hate me. I must be doing something right.”

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:05:37pm

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Imma guessing nobody told him the stock market crashed 800 points yesterday…

“If the stock market is doing great, then you should vote for me. OTOH, if it’s doing badly, you should vote for me.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:05:49pm

re: #370 Belafon

“My coworkers hate me. I must be doing something right.”

I must be doing it wrong, I spend time trying to fit in with my coworkers and form a team bond with them so that we communicate effectively and get shit done.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:08:19pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:08:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:09:20pm

hey Anymouse!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:10:47pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:11:37pm

re: #305 Teddy’s Person

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:12:25pm

As I’ve recalled here a few times, I went to one of Trump’s first rallies in Derry, NH in 2015 on a lark. I predicted that he could probably win based on the parking lot—no economic anxiety, it was filled with the SUVs of bankers and real estate agents (by my guess, because i have no fucking idea how people here get so rich with so little industry). Tonight’s rally in Manchester? I don’t know and don’t care. I stayed far away. But the Trump signs are already coming out in the predictable places. I give him a good chance of repeating even if the economy tanks. It’s a cult. For sure.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:14:21pm

re: #378 Barefoot Grin

Oh, it is a cult, no doubt. And a strong one. And not one that we can break overnight. But that doesn’t mean we stop trying. The cult of White American Jesus and the Anti-Abortion Brigade has to be stopped, but it’s going to be a long and painful deprogramming.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:15:54pm

meanwhile in Iowa:

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:15:55pm

re: #355 Dread Pirate

104.6F at 25% here for a heat index of 107F. My tomatoes are looking sad.

Earlier this year when we were in the low hundreds, our asparagus went belly-up. No fresh asparagus for us this year.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:16:11pm

JFC

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:16:34pm
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:17:16pm

re: #379 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh, it is a cult, no doubt. And a strong one. And not one that we can break overnight. But that doesn’t mean we stop trying. The cult of White American Jesus and the Anti-Abortion Brigade has to be stopped, but it’s going to be a long and painful deprogramming.

Thanks. I’m in a bit of depression mode because he’s so close tonight and his anti-immigrant rants makes my family feel unsafe. But, yes, let’s keep fighting.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:18:38pm

re: #384 Barefoot Grin

Thanks. I’m in a bit of depression mode because he’s so close tonight and his anti-immigrant rants makes my family feel unsafe. But, yes, let’s keep fighting.

Oh, I understand that, for sure. Remember that my family are Trump-humpers and confirmed racists (that last which I only admitted recently), and sometimes it just hits me how fucked up they are and how much I wish I could make them see reason. But I can’t. And I have to live with that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:18:41pm

re: #382 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

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wasn’t their fault because my guess is that most of the trumpsters there aren’t from New Hampshire.

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451_Montag  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:19:25pm

re: #113 mmmirele

An acquaintance of mine, Steven Hassan, who runs the Freedom of Mind center, is a cult expert and author of the BITE Model of cult recruiting, has a new book coming out in October from Simon & Schuster:

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The BITE Model of cult recruiting is really useful because it relies on *actions* not beliefs, to discern whether an organization is cultic. I have it on poster boards which I tape to my car when I protest. My pet cult can’t complain when I call thrm out for black and white thinking, because their own words demonstrate it. (Example: There’s never a reason for an abortion. NEVER.)

This is going to attract a lot of attention and I think the book is really necessary right now.

Wow, you know him? That is very cool. His first book, Combating Cult Mind Control was excellent. Explained the Moonies really well, as he was a member. Kudos!!

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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:20:23pm

re: #383 The Pie Overlord!

Replying to @atrupar
Trump tells a “sir” story about Ronna McDaniel

Well, Trump insisted she drop Romney from her name, and she said “yes, sir.”

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Decatur Deb  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:22:53pm

What is that moron on about now?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:23:21pm

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

hey Anymouse!

Yikes. That was the storm which passed south of us.

Damage reported in Scottsbluff as hail storm moves quickly through the area (Goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, with photographs of damage)

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:23:42pm

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

hey Anymouse!

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How many golf balls and baseballs in a washing machine?

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wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:24:46pm

re: #392 DangerMan

How many golf balls and baseballs in a washing machine?

Wash cycle, spin cycle, or dead?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:25:23pm

re: #391 Anymouse 🌹🎃

The storm traveled through downtown Scottsbluff at about 3:34 p.m. on Thursday. Meteorologist Brandon Wills with the National Weather Service office in Cheyenne said it was only minutes before weather spotter reports started coming in.

“We had a severe thunderstorm warning out in time,” Wills said. “In the first five to 10 minutes, we had three reports of hail ranging from golf ball size to hen’s egg size, which is two inches, the next quarter-inch larger size.”

One spotter called in to report broken windows in the area.

On the Star-Herald Facebook page, residents were reporting broken windows and siding damage to homes throughout Scottsbluff, with reports on Highland Road, Fifth Avenue and 42nd Street. At Scottsbluff High School, several students had cars that were battered by the hail, with broken out windshields and rear windows.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:25:50pm

re: #390 Decatur Deb

What is that moron on about now?

people calling him sir, Hillary’s emails, how tall his campaign manager is, your 401K tanking if he’s not re-elected … you know, the usual.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:26:52pm
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Decatur Deb  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:27:05pm

re: #395 Teddy’s Person

people calling him sir, Hillary’s emails, how tall his campaign manager is, your 401K tanking if he’s not re-elected … you know, the usual.

Of 308,000,000 possible undefined morons, you hit the right one. Wattr’ da odds?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:27:06pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:27:44pm

re: #383 The Pie Overlord!

That particular conspiracy theory about New Hampshire is so overwrought I heard it growing up in Michigan. “Democrats are busing voters in from Massachusetts” has been around as long as there have been buses, apparently.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:27:59pm

re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth

wasn’t their fault because my guess is that most of the trumpsters there aren’t from New Hampshire.

There’s a southern corridor (drive State Highway 121 south of Manchester) that is extremely Trump. Apparently a lot of Massachusetts tax refugees. It’s the wealthiest section of the state after the lakes region, where most homeowners don’t actually live in NH. The funny thing is that old-timers blame the supposed Democratic shift in the state to “Massholes.” But the truth is that many old-timers are pragmatic and vote D when things get out of hand. (though that may be offset by the recent influx of Free State libertarians, but I don’t really know.)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:28:32pm

re: #399 Anymouse 🌹🎃

That particular conspiracy theory about New Hampshire is so overwrought I heard it growing up in Michigan. “Democrats are busing voters in from Massachusetts” has been around as long as there have been buses, apparently.

In the Chicagoland area, we always heard the old standby, “Remember the Democratic party motto: ‘Vote early, vote often.’”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:29:15pm

asshole

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:29:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:29:53pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:30:34pm

re: #390 Decatur Deb

What is that moron on about now?

Threatening economic collapse if he’s not reelected. Because, you know, this is the greatest economy in the history of America, but it requires the Fed to lower historically low interest rates, plus it’s slowing down, which has absolutely nothing to do with the trade war, because the Chinese are paying the tariffs, but we’re going to cancel them so they don’t ruin your Christmas with higher prices because actually you’re paying the tariffs, or you would be if we hadn’t canceled them and you should be grateful that we did because otherwise Christmas wouldn’t go so well because of the tariffs we decided to put on, even though China is totally paying for the tariffs now that they devalued their currency which will make our trade deficit even bigger and everyone will be buying Chinese goods but we’re WINNING! and the Great Patriot Farmers will be the big winners in all this if they don’t go bankrupt because we’re going to open up a market that was already open to them till we put tariffs on China and they retaliated and now they’re not buying any of our farm products but when we win the trade war China will be buying them, just like they were before we started this nonsense.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:31:00pm
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plansbandc  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:31:47pm
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William Lewis  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:33:41pm

Rewatching. “The Martian “.

Goddamn that is a great movie.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:34:02pm

re: #407 plansbandc

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They call me a conch-eyed optimist,
Immature and incurably green!

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Decatur Deb  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:35:31pm

re: #405 Blind Frog Belly White

SSDD, then. I’ve burned through all the old vampire and Dr Jekyll stuff that’s worth streaming. Guess this rally is going to be either Frankenstein or werewolf cycle.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:35:55pm

re: #406 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This “shameful shit” is a big part of why we got him in the first place. How much time did cable news show an empty podium waiting in breathless anticipation for his big orange ass to show up?

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Skip Intro  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:37:53pm

re: #411 Teddy’s Person

Well, they’re going to do it again. Go to keep up with Fox.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:37:57pm

re: #406 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fox is state propaganda.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:39:03pm

So, I see a listing on Ebay for a particular watch movement:

Rare! Only 75,146 made!

And I think, “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:39:36pm
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Decatur Deb  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:39:38pm

re: #408 William Lewis

Rewatching. “The Martian “.

Goddamn that is a great movie.

Prime is showing “The Cold Blue” beautifully reworked from William Wyler’s 8th AF footage. Didn’t know he took a crew on at least one real mission, and the new film is dedicated to one of his cameramen who was KIA.

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Chrysicat  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:39:56pm
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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:42:16pm

re: #415 Patricia Kayden

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:44:10pm

re: #417 Chrysicat

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Okay….

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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:44:13pm

re: #415 Patricia Kayden

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From that thread, I like where Max is coming from so much I’ll forgive the grammar faux pas.

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gocart mozart  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:44:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:44:47pm

re: #418 Belafon

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Gun hoarders want to make about everything but guns.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:46:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:47:36pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:48:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:48:57pm

re: #423 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He repeatedly insults his base but they seem to like being lied to.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:49:04pm

re: #407 plansbandc

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Mmmmmmm, tasty conch. It’s fun snorkeling for them but cleaning the buggers is a pain.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:49:36pm

re: #420 Teddy’s Person

Why is doing this so freaking hard

I have a bit of insight into this. One of my friends on FB was saying that he was okay with background checks on ALL sales, provided they were instant and took no more than half an hour, and no retention of records, because he’s a law abiding gun owner and shouldn’t have to put up with limitations.

So I pointed out that the guy in LV who killed 58 people was a law abiding gun owner, and the guy in El Paso who killed 22 people was a law abiding gun owner, and the guy in Dayton who killed 9 people was a law abiding gun owner, and that what he’s actually saying is that he believes all those deaths and more besides are a fair trade so that he’s not inconvenienced when he wants to buy a gun.

Response? *crickets*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:50:06pm

re: #426 HappyWarrior

He repeatedly insults his base but they seem to like being lied to.

the common clay…you know…

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Chrysicat  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:50:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:51:24pm

re: #428 Blind Frog Belly White

I have a bit of insight into this. One of my friends on FB was saying that he was okay with background checks on ALL sales, provided they were instant and took no more than half an hour, and no retention of records, because he’s a law abiding gun owner and shouldn’t have to put up with limitations.

So I pointed out that the guy in LV who killed 58 people was a law abiding gun owner, and the guy in El Paso who killed 22 people was a law abiding gun owner, and the guy in Dayton who killed 9 people was a law abiding gun owner, and that what he’s actually saying is that he believes all those deaths and more besides are a fair trade so that he’s not inconvenienced when he wants to buy a gun.

Response? *crickets*

They’re not interested in solutions. Maybe he’d have a change of heart if it was his blood on the Liberty tree.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:54:21pm

JFC

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:55:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:56:07pm
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PhillyPretzel  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:57:34pm

re: #434 Backwoods_Sleuth

OMG. They are all becoming unhinged.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:57:55pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:57:56pm

re: #405 Blind Frog Belly White

You. Have. Been. Listening. To. Too. Much. Wingnut. /s

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:57:59pm

re: #431 HappyWarrior

They’re not interested in solutions. Maybe he’d have a change of heart if it was his blood on the Liberty tree.

Oh, he’s not a bad guy. Well, not TOO bad. But he doesn’t connect how easy it is for HIM to get a gun with how easy it is for mass shooters to get them. And because he likes his guns, his mind won’t let him get near the real problem.

It’s like Trump, who seems to briefly, dimly glimpse the answer - background checks, assault weapons ban - but then the NRA tells him it’s mental illness and he goes that way instead, because it’s easier and his base will love it - even though he’s not planning to do anything about THAT, either.

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gocart mozart  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:58:35pm

LOL

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:59:02pm

re: #437 Anymouse 🌹🎃

You. Have. Been. Listening. To. Too. Much. Wingnut. /s

It’s simple. All you have to do is turn off the reasoning centers of the brain.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:00:00pm

re: #432 The Pie Overlord!

OMG, commercials warning kids about drugs. Sir, you’re a stable genius. No one on earth has thought of that before. What would we do without you? (hopefully no snark tag needed)

From 1987…

1987 PDFA Anti-Drug Commercial (This Is Your Brain On Drugs)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:00:37pm

re: #434 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hey, how about Lindsey faces consequences for trying to destroy the US? Which, you know, is actually happening, unlike the bullshit about Tlaib.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:02:54pm

re: #441 Teddy’s Person

OMG, commercials warning kids about drugs. Sir, you’re a stable genius. No one on earth has thought of that before. What would we do without you? (hopefully no snark tag needed)

From 1987…

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Yep, I was just doctor shopping the other day to find one who’d give me my 4th prescription so I’d have enough to get through a day without resorting to heroin, but then I saw an ad, and I decided to stop, because all it took was deciding, and not a week of the worst agony you can possibly imagine followed by a lifetime of nagging cravings.
//////////

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Chrysicat  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:03:48pm
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Teddy's Person  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:03:51pm

Nothing too trival to lie about (the NASA bit not the Veterans Choice part).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:04:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:05:34pm

re: #434 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He wants blood.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:06:41pm

re: #438 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, he’s not a bad guy. Well, not TOO bad. But he doesn’t connect how easy it is for HIM to get a gun with how easy it is for mass shooters to get them. And because he likes his guns, his mind won’t let him get near the real problem.

It’s like Trump, who seems to briefly, dimly glimpse the answer - background checks, assault weapons ban - but then the NRA tells him it’s mental illness and he goes that way instead, because it’s easier and his base will love it - even though he’s not planning to do anything about THAT, either.

Yeah I’m not saying he’s a bad guy but for too many of these types and one of my best friends is, they have no empathy for why we need to change these laws.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:06:42pm

re: #441 Teddy’s Person

OMG, commercials warning kids about drugs. Sir, you’re a stable genius. No one on earth has thought of that before. What would we do without you? (hopefully no snark tag needed)

From 1987…

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Thank you for posting this. I was just about to relapse.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:07:38pm

re: #446 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Scumbag. God I hate him. I want him to live the rest of his life in agony.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:07:44pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:07:47pm

re: #425 gocart mozart

All the bullshit artistes arguing there “ThIs Is FoR hIs TrAvEl CoSts!!!uno1!!2!elventy!!”

Travel costs are paid for in countries with single-payer healthcare.

They are paid for in this country if you have single-payer healthcare. The VA pays my costs every time I have an appointment. If I need a companion for some reason, they will also pay for my wife. They would pay for tolls if we had tolls in Nebraska. They will pay for meals if the appointment goes too long.

This should be the standard for everyone, not just people who tote guns around in the desert or sail on Haze Grey Cruise Line.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:08:52pm

re: #432 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

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Which is why you were a regular at Studio 54 and act like a coke fiend even now. Your administration hasn’t done anything on drugs.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:09:59pm
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Decatur Deb  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:10:25pm

re: #452 Anymouse 🌹🎃

All the bullshit artistes arguing there “ThIs Is FoR hIs TrAvEl CoSts!!!uno1!!2!elventy!!”

This should be the standard for everyone, not just people who tote guns around in the desert or sail on Haze Grey Cruise Line.

You might be familiar with this name for the Royal Navy:

The Grey Funnel Line

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:12:00pm

re: #431 HappyWarrior

They’re not interested in solutions. Maybe he’d have a change of heart if it was his blood on the Liberty tree.

Steve Scalise didn’t.

And the issue of not retaining background checks after they are done? That’s so “the ebul gubmint can’t know if I have a gun.”

Surprise for wingnut gun owners who send in their warranty card when they buy a new gun: The company which made it has your information, and the government can get it there.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:13:09pm

re: #433 Backwoods_Sleuth

Okay, the “ripping babies from the womb” thing is one time too many for me. I’m tapping out.

— Bob Cesca

That would be God’s orders in the Bible, not Democrats.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:13:38pm

re: #456 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Steve Scalise didn’t.

And the issue of not retaining background checks after they are done? That’s so “the ebul gubmint can’t know if I have a gun.”

Surprise for wingnut gun owners who send in their warranty card when they buy a new gun: The company which made it has your information, and the government can get it there.

I’m trying to give FBV’s friend some leeway.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:14:03pm

I’m so tired of these Nuremberg rallies.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:14:55pm

re: #435 PhillyPretzel

OMG. They are all becoming unhinged.

Trump and the Republican Party are trying to make an American version of Rwanda.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:15:17pm
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Chrysicat  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:17:24pm

re: #456 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Steve Scalise didn’t.

And the issue of not retaining background checks after they are done? That’s so “the ebul gubmint can’t know if I have a gun.”

Surprise for wingnut gun owners who send in their warranty card when they buy a new gun: The company which made it has your information, and the government can get it there.

I didn’t think most real wingnut owners would send that information in; they’d sooner be on the hook for every repair than have even the manufacturer know who owns their machine now, I’d think?

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gocart mozart  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:18:14pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:22:21pm

re: #451 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:26:04pm

re: #459 HappyWarrior

I’m so tired of these Nuremberg rallies.

Me too. Hopefully the MSM has stopped covering them.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:26:40pm

re: #465 Patricia Kayden

Me too. Hopefully the MSM has stopped covering them.

Had CNN on. They weren’t thankfully.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:28:25pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:33:39pm

re: #467 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good sunscreen. Gnocchi needs a hat.

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Chrysicat  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:35:00pm

re: #461 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Poor bab shouldn’t be so far from her mama!

And I’m honestly wondering if she’s too young to have human kids playing with her just yet. Looks somewhere between traumatised and terrified.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:42:23pm

Anymouse…more video

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:45:13pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:47:43pm

re: #462 Chrysicat

I didn’t think most real wingnut owners would send that information in; they’d sooner be on the hook for every repair than have even the manufacturer know who owns their machine now, I’d think?

I sent in the warranty card for my shotgun. I’m not afraid of a Big Gubmint gun roundup. On the other hand, if there was something defective with it at the time, or if a recall comes out to replace a defective or dangerous part, I’d like to know about that.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:50:06pm

re: #467 Backwoods_Sleuth

Clean shirt, new shoes
And I don’t know where I am goin’ to
Silk suit, black tie (black tie)
I don’t need a reason why

They come runnin’ just as fast as they can
Cause every girl’s crazy ‘bout a sharp dressed man

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:51:33pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:53:59pm

re: #470 Backwoods_Sleuth

Anymouse…more video

Scottsbluff got pummelled pretty hard. It is the largest city in the Panhandle (which isn’t saying much for people who live in cities like Philadelphia or Chicago, but it’s our big city). /s

The radar is clear here now, with the tornadic storm near Sterling, Colo. collapsing and passing south of the city. There are a couple minor thunderstorms ESE of Denver.

To our SE, North Platte radar shows a large thunderstorm about to enter the main part of Nebraska from Colorado. Otherwise it’s looking to be a quiet night now.

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:55:42pm

re: #474 MsJ

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I wonder if Trump misses his dad telling him no.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:59:39pm

re: #431 HappyWarrior

They’re not interested in solutions. Maybe he’d have a change of heart if it was his blood on the Liberty tree.

Think of all those families where one child or toddler shoots themselves or another child or a parent — their universal reaction seems to be that this was an act of god and nothing could be done about. These people really don’t care if others are killed, even those near and dear to them, if it might mean there is any limitation on their rights to accumulate as much weaponry and ammunition as they desire.

OT — I educated someone today! An acquaintance was totally unaware that Biff Tannen was based on Trump!

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stpaulbear  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:00:59pm

re: #476 Belafon

I wonder if Trump misses his dad telling him no.

He’s probably frustrated by Melania always walking around the White House with her “I Don’t Really Care. Do you?” coat on.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:01:45pm

re: #477 Hecuba’s daughter

Think of all those families where one child or toddler shoots themselves or another child or a parent — their universal reaction seems to be that this was an act of god and nothing could be done about. These people really don’t care if others are killed, even those near and dear to them, if it might mean there is any limitation on their rights to accumulate as much weaponry and ammunition as they desire.

OT — I educated someone today! An acquaintance was totally unaware that Biff Tannen was based on Trump!

That’s true unfortunately.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:05:23pm

re: #474 MsJ

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Won’t be ice-smothered long.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:06:40pm

Ouch, that’s gonna leave a mark.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:10:16pm

re: #481 Dread Pirate

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Ouch, that’s gonna leave a mark.

Glad to see someone in the Israeli press saying it.

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gocart mozart  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:13:24pm
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plansbandc  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:13:26pm

My libertarian friend says there’s “credible evidence” that Omar married her brother to get a green card. Yep.

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gwangung  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:14:52pm

re: #484 plansbandc

My libertarian friend says there’s “credible evidence” that Omar married her brother to get a green card. Yep.

Are you sure you didn’t mispell “racist” somewhere in there?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:15:18pm

OK, you stay away from the internet for a few hours and then find out that FOX has canned Jeanine Pirro.
And Trump wants the US to buy Greenland
I’m guessing Trump isn’t aware the Thule people aren’t particularly white

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:15:38pm

re: #485 gwangung

Are you sure you didn’t mispell “racist” somewhere in there?

plansbandc did say libertarian.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:16:29pm

re: #484 plansbandc

My libertarian friend says there’s “credible evidence” that Omar married her brother to get a green card. Yep.

Uh huh. And there’s actual evidence that libertarian folk hero Ron Paul is a racist shit who is okay with right wing authoritarianism.

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:16:30pm

re: #486 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, you stay away from the internet for a few hours and then find out that FOX has canned Jeanine Pirro.
And Trump wants the US to buy Greenland
I’m guessing Trump isn’t aware the Thule people aren’t particularly white

The Jeanine Pirro story is fake.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:16:40pm

America the racist.

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:17:11pm

re: #484 plansbandc

My libertarian friend says there’s “credible evidence” that Omar married her brother to get a green card. Yep.

I would like to see the proof.

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plansbandc  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:17:16pm

re: #485 gwangung

He can’t believe that I refuse to condemn all Muslims, so yeah.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:20:53pm

re: #486 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, you stay away from the internet for a few hours and then find out that FOX has canned Jeanine Pirro.
And Trump wants the US to buy Greenland
I’m guessing Trump isn’t aware the Thule people aren’t particularly white

It’s more likely that Pirro got milkshaked!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:21:15pm

Well, this is an interesting piece of corruption, not related to the Dumpster fire in the White House.

A DOJ employee is accused of helping her son and the Bloods intimidate informants (CNN)

The Department of Justice says one of its own “repeatedly” helped the Bloods street gang protect its interests by identifying and exposing informants and cooperating witnesses.

Tawanna Hilliard works in an administrative role for the US Attorney’s Office for the District of New Jersey, court documents say. According to the US Attorney for the Eastern District of New York, over a period of more than two years, Hilliard used her access to information to help her son Tyquan Hilliard, 28, and his gang, the 5-9 Brims set of the Bloods.

Authorities have charged the Hilliards with six felony counts: witness tampering and harassment, obstruction of justice and conspiracy to tamper with a witness. Each carries a maximum 20-year prison sentence.

Tawanna Hilliard is also charged with illegally obtaining information from a protected government computer.

(more at the link)

She is out on $75,000 bail.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:21:45pm

re: #489 Belafon

The Jeanine Pirro story is fake.

And there I thought she was a shoe in for Governor General of Greenland

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gwangung  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:21:46pm

re: #487 Belafon

plansbandc did say libertarian.

Oh, yeah…that’s right….

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:25:48pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:27:17pm

re: #484 plansbandc

My libertarian friend says there’s “credible evidence” that Omar married her brother to get a green card. Yep.

Lemme guess, the faked marriage certificate which floats around on-line, along with “because so-and-so said so.”

My wife really had her eyes opened about Libertarians (large L) and the endemic racism in their party. In 2016 she’d had enough and switched to the Democratic Party.

Since then she occasionally gets requests from the Colorado Libertarian Party trying to entice her back. I don’t see her doing that.

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gocart mozart  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:30:13pm
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plansbandc  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:30:39pm

re: #498 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I think it’s pretty much all “so and so said so”. He’s a big fan of Ben Shapiro, so that’s probably where he got it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:36:49pm

re: #500 plansbandc

I think it’s pretty much all “so and so said so”. He’s a big fan of Ben Shapiro, so that’s probably where he got it.

Ben Shapiro is like the antithesis of what libertarians claim they believe. Sigh. My sympathies. My good friend was a Shapiro fan for awhile. Still might be since he thankfully acknowledged he’s not going to make me a believer in that right wing crap.


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