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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:27:53pm

the chapter on america in the second decade of the 21st century will be called “Smart Phones, Stupid People”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:29:00pm

He knows he’s rightfully going to be blamed for it.

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gocart mozart  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:31:24pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:34:46pm

From the last thread:

re: #481 Dread Pirate

Ouch, that’s gonna leave a mark.

An editorial in Haaretz? Not unless someone brings it to Trump’s attention. I doubt he knows what that is, much less be interested in reading the opinion piece.

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bratwurst  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:39:44pm
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Dread Pirate  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:40:25pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:40:35pm

And who’s going to enforce it as long as that DOJ opinion letter from the Nixon Administration exists?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:41:30pm

re: #5 bratwurst

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I do hope people realize that Trumps trade idiocy vindicates Obama big time on the TPP. Both Sanders and Trump demagogued on that issue bigly.

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EPR-radar  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:46:34pm

re: #8 HappyWarrior

I do hope people realize that Trumps trade idiocy vindicates Obama big time on the TPP. Both Sanders and Trump demagogued on that issue bigly.

The TPP had some awful provisions in it (e.g., US copyright insanity, companies able to sue for lost profits due to ‘regulations’ come to mind, and I’m sure there were others), but it would have been a useful counter to Chinese influence. Perhaps it was a net positive, perhaps not.

But it had no defenders in the end. Rightly so, IMO. These trade deals are a symbol of globalist business as usual, which is in the process of taking almost everyone’s job away just to make the Davos class richer.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:47:13pm

Yay, more local fun:

SCOTTSBLUFF, Neb. - Mosquitoes trapped at a site in Scotts Bluff County have recently tested positive for St. Louis encephalitis. This is the first confirmed positive in mosquitoes in the state this year.

Scotts Bluff County mosquitoes test positive for St. Louis encephalitis (more at the link, KSID radio in Sidney, Nebr.)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:49:04pm

re: #9 EPR-radar

The TPP had some awful provisions in it (e.g., US copyright insanity, companies able to sue for lost profits due to ‘regulations’ come to mind, and I’m sure there were others), but it would have been a useful counter to Chinese influence. Perhaps it was a net positive, perhaps not.

But it had no defenders in the end. Rightly so, IMO. These trade deal are a symbol of globalist business as usual, which is in the process of taking almost everyone’s job away just to make the Davos class richer.

I think it would have been a positive net against Xi’s soft power moves in the Pacific Rim. Imo the people who led the opposition against it- Sanders and Trump are ignorant of how soft power is important.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:51:08pm

re: #5 bratwurst

Keebler Export Sodas are a brand of soda cracker they sell everywhere. They are not literally for export. I think the tweet is trolling.

If you like, you can buy them here:
amazon.com

One giveaway that they’re not for export is they are sold as a 28-ounce can.

About the product

Oven-baked crackers with a classic crunch, coarse salt, and a satisfying toasty finish in every bite.
Thin, crispy, and delicious crackers; Great for snacking and go wonderfully with soup, salad, dips, and your favorite savory toppings.
Cholesterol-free and crafted with enriched flour, baking soda, yeast, and a sprinkle of salt; 0 grams trans fat (0 grams polyunsaturated fat; 0.5 grams monounsaturated fat); Kosher dairy.
Stock your home pantry, keep on hand at the office, and stow in a lunchbox or tote bag; A travel-ready food; Contains wheat ingredients.
Includes 1, 28-ounce can of ready-to-eat Export Sodas Crackers; Packaged for freshness and great taste.

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Jay C  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:53:17pm

re: #8 HappyWarrior

I do hope people realize that Trumps trade idiocy vindicates Obama big time on the TPP. Both Sanders and Trump demagogued on that issue bigly.

As did Hillary, lest we forget. The TPP just seems to have been one of those issues that had something for everybody - to dislike.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:54:25pm

re: #13 Jay C

As did Hillary, lest we forget. The TPP just seems to have been one of those issues that had something for everybody - to dislike.

True.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:54:53pm

From the bottom comment in the last thread:

re: #501 HappyWarrior

Ben Shapiro is like the antithesis of what libertarians claim they believe. Sigh. My sympathies. My good friend was a Shapiro fan for awhile. Still might be since he thankfully acknowledged he’s not going to make me a believer in that right wing crap.

One advantage of no Internet service around here is no one has ever heard of Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, or the rest of that unstable of wingnuts.

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EPR-radar  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:56:23pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

I think it would have been a positive net against Xi’s soft power moves in the Pacific Rim. Imo the people who led the opposition against it- Sanders and Trump are ignorant of how soft power is important.

Why should someone who is faced with economic dislocation because of globalism give a shit whether US oligarchs or Chinese oligarchs end up ruling the roost?

That’s an example of the underlying issue that is not being addressed by business as usual, and which gives opportunities to demagogues like Trump and Sanders.

IMO US politics being the distorted malignant circus that it now is comes from a substantial fraction of the people seeing (correctly) that the status quo offers little or nothing. It’s not just a ‘loss of God’ problem. It’s a loss of faith (both religious and secular) that the system is worth supporting because it works well enough for enough people.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:00:31pm

re: #16 EPR-radar

Why should someone who is faced with economic dislocation because of globalism give a shit whether US oligarchs or Chinese oligarchs end up ruling the roost?

That’s an example of the underlying issue that is not being addressed by business as usual, and which gives opportunities to demagogues like Trump and Sanders.

IMO US politics being the distorted malignant circus that it now is comes from a substantial fraction of the people seeing (correctly) that the status quo offers little or nothing. It’s not just a ‘loss of God’ problem. It’s a loss of faith (both religious and secular) that the system is worth supporting because it works well enough for enough people.

That’s fair. I just think that both Trump and Bernie don’t value international relationships at all. There definitely needs to be realistic alternatives. I just resent how the whole thing was sold by people who know little about trade to people who know even less.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:00:53pm

I’m calling it a night though. I’m beat.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:01:18pm

re: #16 EPR-radar

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IMO US politics being the distorted malignant circus that it now is comes from a substantial fraction of the people seeing (correctly) that the status quo offers little or nothing. It’s not just a ‘loss of God’ problem. It’s a loss of faith (both religious and secular) that the system is worth supporting because it works well enough for enough people.

I’m not aware of “faith” being involved in a secular governmental system. Faith (in the sense of belief without proof, or trust without evidence) is specifically religious in nature.

As for a system not worth supporting, secular systems allow for change (laws, constitutional amendments, elections). Religions specifically do not allow for change.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:03:59pm

Parker Malloy weighing in on Trump floating eugenics as a solution to problems again.

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teleskiguy  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:06:18pm

Legend.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:07:52pm

Speaking of Greenland, this might be the most elite military force in the world.
Sirius Dog Sled Patrol.
A unit of the Danish Navy, these folks, about 14 in all, patrol the wilderness of northeastern Greenland in pairs. With dog sleds. In the dead of winter. Among other things, they are armed with bolt action rifles (1917 Enfield in .30/06).

“The weapons carried also reflect the harsh conditions. Only bolt-action rifles (M17/M53) perform reliably. The standard SIG210 Neuhausen sidearm was recently replaced by the 10mm Glock 20, as the stopping power of multiple 9mm rounds proved to be insufficient against a polar bear.”

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Chrysicat  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:08:01pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I’m not aware of “faith” being involved in a secular governmental system. Faith (in the sense of belief without proof, or trust without evidence) is specifically religious in nature.

As for a system not worth supporting, secular systems allow for change (laws, constitutional amendments, elections). Religions specifically do not allow for change.

You’ve never been asked to “have faith the system will work”?

That’s not something they request of just Christians, and “trust it will work” still infers “have faith”.

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bratwurst  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:09:50pm

re: #12 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Keebler Export Sodas are a brand of soda cracker they sell everywhere. They are not literally for export. I think the tweet is trolling.

The tweet is mine and it’s what used to be known as a “joke”.

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retired cynic  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:10:22pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Speaking of Greenland, this might be the most elite military force in the world.
Sirius Dog Sled Patrol.
A unit of the Danish Navy, these folks, about 14 in all, patrol the wilderness of northeastern Greenland in pairs. With dog sleds. In the dead of winter. Among other things, they are armed with bolt action rifles (1917 Enfield in .30/06).

“The weapons carried also reflect the harsh conditions. Only bolt-action rifles (M17/M53) perform reliably. The standard SIG210 Neuhausen sidearm was recently replaced by the 10mm Glock 20, as the stopping power of multiple 9mm rounds proved to be insufficient against a polar bear.”

I don’t want to hear how they found that out!

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:10:55pm

Because I can’t keep up with all the news, I hadn’t heard of this guy:

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:11:24pm

re: #23 Chrysicat

You’ve never been asked to “have faith the system will work”?

That’s not something they request of just Christians, and “trust it will work” still infers “have faith”.

Sure.

That is called an equivocation fallacy.

“Have faith the system will work” means extend tentative trust because I have evidence it has worked in the past, though sometimes slowly.

“Have faith in God” means place trust in something which has no good evidence at all.

That fallacy is similar to the way religious people use the word “theory.”

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Chrysicat  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:11:48pm

re: #26 Belafon

Is there supposed to be a url attached to that comment that somehow got scrubbed?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:15:54pm

This might be why a lot of farmers are slow to come round on tariffs hurting soybean markets.

macrotrends.net

This is a forty-five year historical price chart for soybeans.

You can see a $2 crimp per bushel where Trump’s tariffs come in, from about $10.50 to $8.25, bouncing back fifty cents since then.

That said, over forty-five years, with improved production methods and yields, the trend line for soybeans has been relatively flat (with a lot of bouncing), and soybeans are still about $3 per bushel above the average since the Seventies.

Overall, soybeans have been remarkably stable.

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:16:20pm

28 comments and a new thread posted upstairs.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:17:47pm

re: #30 A Three Hour Tour

28 comments and a new thread posted upstairs.

What’s the record-shortest thread?

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:18:45pm

re: #16 EPR-radar

IMO US politics being the distorted malignant circus that it now is comes from a substantial fraction of the people seeing (correctly) that the status quo offers little or nothing. It’s not just a ‘loss of God’ problem. It’s a loss of faith (both religious and secular) that the system is worth supporting because it works well enough for enough people.

It hasn’t been a loss of god problem, unless the god is white supremacy. Racists didn’t like blacks getting fair treatment, so they have been tearing things down since the CRA. A large fraction of the country is so Ok with it they’d let you cut off their left arm if a black person lost a right arm.

Personally, the people who aren’t paying enough attention to realize what is going on are as big a problem as the racists.

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:19:42pm

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹🎃

What’s the record-shortest thread?

Honestly, I haven’t kept track.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:22:25pm

re: #24 bratwurst

The tweet is mine and it’s what used to be known as a “joke”.

Sorry about that. I don’t have a very good sense of humour. It sailed over my head.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:24:16pm

I AM EMPEROR OF GREENLAND

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:33:01pm

There appears to be resistance from the commentariat to move to the new thread, until this one gets a respectable number of comments. /s

(9:25)

Full Frontal Investigates: The Case of Jerry Falwell, Jr., the Pool Boy, Michael Cohen, & Tom Arnold

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:36:28pm

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹🎃

That needs to be on the front page.

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:37:31pm

re: #28 Chrysicat

Is there supposed to be a url attached to that comment that somehow got scrubbed?

yeah, reload.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:38:04pm

re: #37 Dr Lizardo

That needs to be on the front page.

If Mr. Johnson did that, the next thread would have no comments. That would probably be the record-low count.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:42:02pm

re: #39 Anymouse 🌹🎃

If Mr. Johnson did that, the next thread would have no comments. That would probably be the record-low count.

LOL

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:45:55pm

re: #40 Dr Lizardo

LOL

Well, Belafon blew it. There’s one comment there now. This is why we can’t have nice things. /s


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