Drunk History (Feat. Bill Hader & Jenny Slate): Coca-Cola Was Invented Using Cocaine (It Really Was)

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John Pemberton invented Coca-Cola while trying to create a patent medicine – but it had something a little extra in it.

About Drunk History:
Based on the popular web series, Drunk History is the liquored-up narration of our nation’s history. Host Derek Waters, along with an ever-changing cast of actors and comedians, travels across the country to present the rich tales that every city in this land has to offer. Booze helps bring out the truth. It’s just that sometimes the truth is a little incoherent.

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171 comments

1
HappyWarrior  Aug 16, 2019 • 6:32:44pm

Really like Bill Hader.

2
Rightwingconspirator  Aug 16, 2019 • 6:32:51pm

Watched a couple of GLOW episodes. Sam Sylvia the crusty director points out he is being well behaved in Las Vegas. “It used to be all hookers and cocaine”

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Decatur Deb  Aug 16, 2019 • 6:34:36pm

Good thread to post a Fugs song, but dis is a classy jernt.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 16, 2019 • 6:38:21pm

From the last thread on doxxing:

re: #272 Chrysicat

Isn’t this the right-wing argument for guns, repurposed for Sanders supporters?

“There’s nothing you can do about it because criminals are going to crime.”

Or for that matter, the right-wing argument for rape:

“If it’s going to happen anyway, you might as well lie back and enjoy it.”

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Chrysicat  Aug 16, 2019 • 6:39:19pm

I SWEAR I was looking for a new thread in the right hand corner and there wasn’t one up when I posted!

CL’d 5 seconds after I submitted:
re: #272 Chrysicat

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HappyWarrior  Aug 16, 2019 • 6:42:14pm

re: #5 Chrysicat

I SWEAR I was looking for a new thread in the right hand corner and there wasn’t one up when I posted!

CL’d 5 seconds after I submitted:

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As I said downstairs, they seem to want a left wing Trump. I want the anti Trump and I don’t care if that person isn’t necessarily the most closest to my ideology. I want the best possible person that reflects my values both political and personal.

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Chrysicat  Aug 16, 2019 • 6:46:09pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

Oh, yeah. No question. BernieBros and MAGAts are both very supportive of the idea that only a strongman can run any country that isn’t in ideal economic conditions of the sort that cannot exist as long as Europe and East Asia are both intact rather than war-ravaged.

Basically, both sides appear extremely sure that the 21st century is going to offer the binary choice between fascism and communism that their great-grandparents seemed to have made moot once and for all in 1945.

I’m not sure I wouldn’t rather die than be given that choice, because neither fascism nor Leninism has any space for the LGBT.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 16, 2019 • 6:50:06pm

re: #7 Chrysicat

Oh, yeah. No question. BernieBros and MAGAts are both very supportive of the idea that only a strongman can run any country that isn’t in ideal economic conditions of the sort that cannot exist as long as Europe and East Asia are both intact rather than war-ravaged.

Basically, both sides appear extremely sure that the 21st century is going to offer the binary choice between fascism and communism that their great-grandparents seemed to have made moot once and for all in 1945.

I’m not sure I wouldn’t rather die than be given that choice, because neither fascism nor Leninism has any space for the LGBT.

It’s so frustrating because I see with Bernie and his movement a lot of what I dislike with Trump and his. I’m not necessarily opposed to Sanders ideologically. More so temperamentally and thinking he has round pegs for problems of all shapes.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 16, 2019 • 6:53:34pm

re: #5 Chrysicat

I SWEAR I was looking for a new thread in the right hand corner and there wasn’t one up when I posted!

CL’d 5 seconds after I submitted:

That’s weird. The site doesn’t display that way for me.

I see the comment box at the bottom of the current thread, and below that the previous thread link on the left. On the right I will see the next thread, but only if I click the “new comments” radio button (at which time new comments load and if a new thread has been posted, the link will appear on the right below the comment box).

That’s what I get for using a dial phone instead of a smartphone.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 16, 2019 • 6:55:05pm

re: #9 Anymouse 🌹🎃

If your town had a smartphone, wouldn’t they elect it mayor or something?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:03:52pm

Sterling and Holyoke are getting plastered still.

There is about a fifty mile section of I-76 from southwest of Sterling, Colo. to the junction in Nebraska with I-80 that’s all severe thunderstorms.

The severe storms in our area have moved east into Garden County.

A tornadic thunderstorm popped up at the interchange of I-76 and I-80 in Nebraska, and is moving east along I-80.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:14:26pm

Thought this was The Onion, but it’s Smithsonian:

A New Species of Leech Is Discovered Near Washington, D.C.
smithsonianmag.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:21:20pm

re: #12 Decatur Deb

Not to be confused with the new species of turtle.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:25:04pm

That feeling when your friend offers to pick up a box of wine at Publix, and she comes back with 5 liters of the winner of the arsenic analyses.

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Belafon  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:28:41pm

politico.com

‘I’m worried’: Allies fear NRA has lost its power in Washington

The National Rifle Association’s internal turmoil is preventing the once-mighty organization from crafting a plan to blunt the latest gun control push, highlighting the group’s weakness at a crucial political moment.

The disarray at the NRA is alarming allies who say President Donald Trump and Congress appear to have a brief opening to pass legislation while the group is so politically feeble it isn’t able to aggressively lobby lawmakers against proposals or hold them accountable for their votes, according to a half-dozen Republicans familiar with the situation…

Multiple Republican Senate offices said they haven’t heard from the NRA, which touts 5 million members. The NRA has been slow to respond to the litany of scandals. And Trump has told aides the NRA is vulnerable and on the verge of being “bankrupt,” according to a Republican close to the White House.

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Chrysicat  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:28:51pm

re: #9 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I haven’t used Spy in 3 years myself because “newest comments at top” annoys me.

There is indeed a “New Comments” radio button that will trigger that.

Just to its left, though, is a checkbox labeled “Auto”. I always turn it on, and once the new thread is up, it’ll populate the spot below “New Comments/Auto” with the title of said new thread. Though the number of comments in that thread usually won’t count up.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:29:05pm
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jaunte  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:29:20pm

re: #14 Decatur Deb

That feeling when your friend offers to pick up a box of wine at Publix, and she comes back with 5 liters of the winner of the arsenic analyses.

Could be worse.

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bratwurst  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:30:04pm

Friends, I realize that in the marathon that is the election campaign, we are barely to the first mile marker. Having said that, I am already getting a queasy feeling with some of the Twitter chatter out there. As my political Twitter is dominated by LGFers (and the people they retweet), I thought I’d air out my feelings here.

I am starting to see a number of attacks on Senator Harris disqualifying her for being a “cop”. I have also seen more than a bit of bile directed at Mayor Pete for being a white male.

I freely admit that I am still shellshocked from that awful night in November 2016. I am deathly afraid that the eventual nominee is not going to pass the purity test for some and we are going to get the Killer Mike’s of the world comparing them to just flat out voting for Trump.

Feel free to like who you like and dislike who you dislike. I just wish people would focus a wee bit more on explaining why they support their chosen candidate and focus a wee bit less on what they think disqualifies the competition.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:31:15pm

re: #16 Chrysicat

I haven’t used Spy in 3 years myself because “newest comments at top” annoys me.

There is indeed a “New Comments” radio button that will trigger that.

Just to its left, though, is a checkbox labeled “Auto”. I always turn it on, and once the new thread is up, it’ll populate the spot below “New Comments/Auto” with the title of said new thread. Though the number of comments in that thread usually won’t count up.

Hey thanks! I’ve been staring at that box ever since I got here and never figured it out. I must have thought that was the full-auto mode of the LGF semi-automatic. /s

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retired cynic  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:31:55pm

re: #19 bratwurst

Vote Blue No Matter Who

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retired cynic  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:32:38pm

re: #21 retired cynic

Vote Blue No Matter Who

Ordinarily, I would not say that. But this time…

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Decatur Deb  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:33:29pm

re: #18 jaunte

Could be worse.

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An earthy opening, but ends on a sour note.

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Belafon  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:33:48pm

re: #19 bratwurst

1. It’s too early.
2. Every one of the candidates has to learn to deal with these attacks. Having said that,
3. Getting them out now makes them old news later.
4. The people making a lot of those accusations are not people we really have to be concerned with.
5. To me, the big thing that will hurt the Democrats is trying to go safe instead of bold.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:36:52pm

re: #19 bratwurst

I am starting to see a number of attacks on Senator Harris disqualifying her for being a “cop”. I have also seen more than a bit of bile directed at Mayor Pete for being a white male.

I’ve been seeing that ever since she announced she would seek the nomination.

There are plenty of rodent copulators on the right, because for all effective purposes they don’t have a primary (sorry Bill Weld); they can focus all their attention on sowing dissent in Democratic ranks.

On the other hand, there are plenty of purity ponies on the left. We don’t need a left wing version of the Tea Party.

For me, I want the leftiest leftist lefty candidate who ever lefted a lefty campaign in modern times. That’s for the primaries. In the general election, I am pragmatic and I want Trump out of office. That means voting for the only other candidate who can defeat him (not a third party, write-in, or worse, stay home).

If I don’t get that lefty candidate, I can be part of the group who pushes a Democratic president further left. President Obama wasn’t for marriage equality until he was, for example (though I think when Joe Biden mentioned it, that was sort of a trial balloon, or maybe the VP forced him into it).

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Chrysicat  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:36:54pm

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Well, I mildly misstated the main purpose, which is to automatically add all new comments to the thread instead of having to call for them manually, but yeah, the new-thread link kinda counts as a “new comment” as well, as you already know from manually loading to a dead thread 😇

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Decatur Deb  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:37:16pm

re: #24 Belafon

“There are old officeholders, and there are bold officeholders, but there are no old, bold, officeholders.” —to paraphrase an old parachutist trope

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Belafon  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:37:25pm

“So, do you think we should elect someone who will go after Trump, McConnell, and the other crooked people in this administration?”
“Yes! Exactly.”
“So, then Harris would be good choice?”
“Oh, no, she’s too much of a cop.”

Edited a name.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:38:42pm

re: #28 Belafon

“So, do you think we should elect someone who will go after Trump, Mitchell, and the other crooked people in this administration?”
“Yes! Exactly.”
“So, then Harris would be good choice?”
“Oh, no, she’s too much of a cop.”

Yeah I don’t get that. We talk about wanting to hold these guys accountable but yet we fret about a former DA and AG.

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wrenchwench  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:47:12pm

Do not discount the power of propaganda. That’s how the 2016 presidential election was taken won, and that’s how we will lose some of our primary candidates.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:47:52pm

Ok, we can shut down the internet now.

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jaunte  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:47:52pm

Friday night August 16, and Steve King remains a thin-skinned fascist.

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jaunte  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:48:57pm

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I call typecasting.

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bratwurst  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:48:59pm

Gee, if I didn’t know any better I’d think someone is feeling insecure about his crowd size last night, even considering the Shell people there who were a captive audience.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:49:33pm

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Ok, we can shut down the internet now.

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Yeah, I got nothin’.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:49:38pm
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jaunte  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:49:46pm

re: #34 bratwurst

That tired old wheeze, the “overflow crowds who couldn’t get in.”

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Belafon  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:53:30pm

re: #32 jaunte

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Friday night August 16, and Steve King remains a thin-skinned fascist.

Is there such a thing as a thick skinned fascist?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:54:09pm

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Ok, we can shut down the internet now.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 16, 2019 • 7:55:31pm

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Ok, we can shut down the internet now.

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You can appreciate that more if you know the role of pressure cookers in the primal KFC.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 16, 2019 • 8:07:08pm
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jaunte  Aug 16, 2019 • 8:11:23pm
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plansbandc  Aug 16, 2019 • 8:13:05pm

I just want to say a big fuck off to BernieBros and trumpsters. Heads and tails of the same coin.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 16, 2019 • 8:13:31pm

Horror story from near Lubbock.

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stpaulbear  Aug 16, 2019 • 8:19:07pm

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Ok, we can shut down the internet now.

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Maybe he was trying to copycat John Water’s “Pink Flamingos”. Next he can eat an actual piece of dog shit. Some friends took me to see that movie and I’ve never forgiven them.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 16, 2019 • 8:19:10pm
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retired cynic  Aug 16, 2019 • 8:21:25pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Sue him and that police department and whoever else you can name for everything they own.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 16, 2019 • 8:22:30pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹🎃

BREAKING: Captain Thomas Woodworth of the Wyatt Detention Center has resigned, after running over #JewsAgainstICE and allies with his truck outside the ICE facility.

Back to the old gig at Abu Ghraib.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 16, 2019 • 8:26:56pm

re: #47 retired cynic

Sue him and that police department and whoever else you can name for everything they own.

I’m not sure the police are responsible for this, but I’m not a lawyer or investigator.

The decision to do that was his, and the video shows he was stopped, then gunned through the crowd.

Four of the five people he put in the hospital have been released. The fifth is in the hospital with a broken leg and broken vertebra, and is being examined for internal injuries.

He was going to work, so not being clocked in I’m not sure ICE can be held responsible for a premeditated criminal act either.

They can sue the crap out of him, and Rhode Island can still bring charges against him. The government wouldn’t be paying for his defence (if they would if he was on the job; criming while on the job usually means the government doesn’t want anything to do with you).

At the very least it’s menacing, and aggravated assault with a deadly weapon (five counts), along with battery (five counts), and attempted murder (five counts).

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retired cynic  Aug 16, 2019 • 8:29:07pm

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹🎃

cold blooded

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garzooma  Aug 16, 2019 • 8:30:22pm

FYI — Wyatt Detention Center has a history:

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/10/us/10detain.html\

They killed a legal immigrant.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 16, 2019 • 8:30:28pm

re: #50 retired cynic

cold blooded

Conservatives have been priming people for this ever since North Dakota proposed legislation to exonerate anyone who ran down protestors in a public roadway.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 16, 2019 • 8:35:58pm

re: #51 garzooma

FYI — Wyatt Detention Center has a history:

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/10/us/10detain.html\

They killed a legal immigrant.

He overstayed a tourist visa, which was why he was held. He attempted to apply for a green card while on an expired visa.

The lawyers have been frustrated in their efforts to obtain Wyatt’s records on Mr. Ng, who overstayed a visa years earlier and was detained for possible deportation after his wife, an American citizen, sponsored him for a green card.

Nevertheless, there is no reason to treat anyone that way, here with authorisation or no.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 16, 2019 • 8:45:34pm

Bill Walton (Chicago White Sox commentator) is trending on Twitter for some of his comments.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 16, 2019 • 8:57:43pm

The deceptive corporatist rewriting of the history of the #FlintWaterCrisis is in full swing (Goes to Eclectablog)

During the time when the Flint water crisis was unfolding, right wing conservatives spent a lot of time trying to convince the country and the world that it was all the fault of the local government. They portrayed these local leaders as incompetent buffoons who poisoned themselves, countering the reality that the local government officials had literally NO POWER to do anything because their government had been taken over by an un-elected, state-appointed overseer, the Emergency Managers.

With former governor Rick Snyder now out of office and contending with a legacy of having poisoned a major American city by attempting to run government like a business, this charade of blaming local elected officials and showering accolades on the corporations who did the bare minimum to help the residents of Flint continues apace.

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sagehen  Aug 16, 2019 • 9:03:30pm

re: #12 Decatur Deb

Thought this was The Onion, but it’s Smithsonian:

A New Species of Leech Is Discovered Near Washington, D.C.
smithsonianmag.com

METAPHOR ALERT!!

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Targetpractice  Aug 16, 2019 • 9:07:50pm

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹🎃

The deceptive corporatist rewriting of the history of the #FlintWaterCrisis is in full swing (Goes to Eclectablog)

Not surprising in the least. It was pretty much guaranteed that as soon as Snyder was gone, the historical revisionism would begin, if only to save the idea that “austerity” works.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 16, 2019 • 9:09:58pm

re: #56 sagehen

METAPHOR ALERT!!

Never met a phor I didn’t like.
—Welcome Back Carter

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 16, 2019 • 9:18:12pm

John Coltrane’s 1964 Album Blue World Gets First Ever Release

news.google.com

wow

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 16, 2019 • 9:32:18pm

re: #57 Targetpractice

Not surprising in the least. It was pretty much guaranteed that as soon as Snyder was gone, the historical revisionism would begin, if only to save the idea that “austerity” works.

They also go after the libertarian Reason magazine for it elevating the great corporations which helped out in the aftermath of the disaster created by Republicans. They noted the great numbers of bottled water donated by corporations, and “won’t anyone think of the poor corporations” which selflessly gave water to residents of the city. (The math works out to almost nothing for the residents, and the corporations got to write that off on taxes as charity.)

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Targetpractice  Aug 16, 2019 • 9:35:26pm

re: #60 Anymouse 🌹🎃

They also go after the libertarian Reason magazine for it elevating the great corporations which helped out in the aftermath of the disaster created by Republicans. They noted the great numbers of bottled water donated by corporations, and “won’t anyone think of the poor corporations” which selflessly gave water to residents of the city. (The math works out to almost nothing for the residents, and the corporations got to write that off on taxes as charity.)

Again, it would be surprising if somebody wasn’t sucking off those companies for their “charity” in “saving” the people of Flint.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 16, 2019 • 9:36:29pm

I’m going to head to bed. G’night y’all.

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Mattand  Aug 16, 2019 • 9:59:58pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹🎃

What are the odds that Woodworth is a white supremacist?

I’m going with “Pretty fucking good.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 16, 2019 • 10:02:54pm

re: #62 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I’m going to head to bed. G’night y’all.

This is early for you!

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Targetpractice  Aug 16, 2019 • 10:04:55pm

On nights like these, I wish I could just activate a little voice mail on the phone that says “If you’re looking for a room this evening, SOD OFF! WE’RE FULL!”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 16, 2019 • 10:20:11pm

Hey Tiny Penis Club Members!

Your dues were used to buy Wayne LaPierre’s thousand dollar suits from Beverly Hills.

Your dues almost paid for Wayne’s $6 million dollar Texas hideaway

AND

Tens of thousands of YOUR DUES were spent for Mrs. Wayne’s makeup and hair styling!

The NRA spent tens of thousands of dollars bringing hair and makeup artists around the country for the wife of its CEO, two sources told The Daily Beast. The expenses-which included plane flights and luxury hotel stays for the stylists-are bound to fuel an already-raging debate over what some see as a spendthrift culture in the NRA’s upper echelons. The NRA, meanwhile, called it a “non-story,” and said their ex-ad firm was responsible for any such expenses.

Susan LaPierre, the wife of longtime NRA chief Wayne LaPierre, is one of the gun organization’s many public faces, and co-chairs its Women’s Leadership Forum. She often speaks at that group’s annual gatherings for female NRA supporters. And for years now, the NRA has paid for a makeup artist and a hair stylist, both based in Nashville and plugged in to the country music scene, to do LaPierre’s hair and make-up at events around the country, according to two sources familiar with the arrangements.

The NRA Women’s Leadership Forum hosts many of its events in major metropolitan areas where local hair and makeup talent abounds. But because of LaPierre’s preference for the Nashville artists, the gun group has paid a premium to fly them around the country, and put them up in style.

That may be changing, though, as those expenditures have raised eyebrows within the NRA. According to one of the sources, the stylists were booked to provide hair and makeup services for LaPierre at its member gathering in Indianapolis this past April. But as media reports emerged with allegations of extravagant spending by the gun group, NRA officials worried the Nashville stylists’ presence could attract scrutiny. So they canceled on them at the last minute. Because the cancellation came so late, the NRA still had to pay their fees.

Hey Marks! Still want to pay dues to the Tiny Penis Club??????

thedailybeast.com

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garzooma  Aug 16, 2019 • 10:21:23pm

re: #53 Anymouse 🌹🎃

He overstayed a tourist visa, which was why he was held. He attempted to apply for a green card while on an expired visa.

As mentioned in the story, he was married to a citizen, so he was going to get his green card.

What wasn’t mentioned in the story was that immigration picked him up while he was going to court for his final interview

But when Mr. Ng, who had overstayed a visa years earlier, went to immigration headquarters in Manhattan last summer for his final interview for a green card, he was swept into immigration detention and shuttled through jails and detention centers in three New England states.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 16, 2019 • 10:36:21pm

I remember when Grandpa Bacon told me about the first time he drank the original Coca Cola. He didn’t expect the rush that came from it…

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Dave In Austin  Aug 16, 2019 • 10:56:12pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 16, 2019 • 11:10:33pm

re: #69 Dave In Austin

Fuck that asshole.

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teleskiguy  Aug 16, 2019 • 11:18:37pm

Bill Maher has been a miserable cock sucker for a long time. But the stupid asshole lost all of what was left of his credibility with this happy horse shit.

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austin_blue  Aug 16, 2019 • 11:20:56pm

I’ve been thinking about “assault rifles” and doing a little research. Since the assault rifle ban was allowed to expire and the NR A became the National Rifle Manufacturers Assiocition while no one was looking, around 1 million AR’s and AK’s and various clones have been purchased in the US. Don’t misunderstand, I understand exactly what these weapons are. I used to own an H&K chambered for 7.62 x 56 NATO rounds. I was a copilot on a B-52 at the time and our post-strike base at the time (early 80’s) was Tabriz, Iran. Yes, it was after the Shah fell and we still had an agreement with Iran at the time. Money helps.

The investment purchasers have made for these guns (including add-ons like scopes, laser sights, &c), is over 1 billion dollars. Let that sink in.

We aren’t going to buy them back. Can’t afford it, and it’s unworkable, because of registration and ownership loopholes. Which is a problem. What can we do to limit the damage that these weapons of war represent as such a clear and present danger?

A long time ago, the NRA, had a slogan that said “guns don’t kill people, people kill people”. A friend of mine said, “That’s wrong, guns don’t kill people, bullets kill people.”

So here’s a modest suggestion. Limit the devices that hold the bullets. We beat the Nazis with 8-round en bloc clips in our M-1 Garlands in WW 2. We have had limits on shell capacity in shotguns for fucking ever for game hunting. Pick a number. I would suggest eight.

Anyone possessing any magazine or clip exceeding eight rounds will be guilty of a federal firearm felony and will be sent to prison for ten years.

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teleskiguy  Aug 16, 2019 • 11:21:26pm

You gotta be pretty fuckin’ dumb to think Fuckface Von Clownstick will ever change.

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teleskiguy  Aug 16, 2019 • 11:24:43pm

re: #72 austin_blue

Colorado passed magazine limits a few years ago. Two Democratic lawmakers were recalled (both from the Colorado Springs area, go figure). A few county sheriffs even came out publicly saying they wouldn’t enforce the law.

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teleskiguy  Aug 16, 2019 • 11:31:53pm

Almost a thousand people showed up.

I have hope. Right after the shooting that awful Saturday I was in Missoula, MT about to break my friend’s Umphrey’s McGee cherry. We were horrified. And we got to talking. My friend asked a poignant question. “There’s more of us than there is them, right?” Them being the Trump cult. My friend has to be right. There’s more good people in this country than there are evil people. And every single one of those good people need to vote for Democrats up and down the ballot come November 2020.

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austin_blue  Aug 16, 2019 • 11:34:16pm

re: #72 austin_blue

I’ve been thinking about “assault rifles” and doing a little research. Since the assault rifle ban was allowed to expire and the NR A became the National Rifle Manufacturers Assiocition while no one was looking, around 1 million AR’s and AK’s and various clones have been purchased in the US. Don’t misunderstand, I understand exactly what these weapons are. I used to own an H&K chambered for 7.62 x 56 NATO rounds. I was a copilot on a B-52 at the time and our post-strike base at the time (early 80’s) was Tabriz, Iran. Yes, it was after the Shah fell and we still had an agreement with Iran at the time. Money helps.

The investment purchasers have made for these guns (including add-ons like scopes, laser sights, &c), is over 1 billion dollars. Let that sink in.

We aren’t going to buy them back. Can’t afford it, and it’s unworkable, because of registration and ownership loopholes. Which is a problem. What can we do to limit the damage that these weapons of war represent as such a clear and present danger?

A long time ago, the NRA, had a slogan that said “guns don’t kill people, people kill people”. A friend of mine said, “That’s wrong, guns don’t kill people, bullets kill people.”

So here’s a modest suggestion. Limit the devices that hold the bullets. We beat the Nazis with 8-round en bloc clips in our M-1 Garlands in WW 2. We have had limits on shell capacity in shotguns for fucking ever for game hunting. Pick a number. I would suggest eight.

Anyone possessing any magazine or clip exceeding eight rounds will be guilty of a federal firearm felony and will be sent to prison for ten years.

A federal buyback of existing magazines and clips is damn cheap compared to the whole gun, which is pretty much neutralized as a WMD without a banana clip. Well, let’s be honest, not really, you still have eight shots you can rip off in about two seconds.

But then you have to reload, and when you have short clips and mags, you can’t tape three of them together so you have 90 rounds at your convenience.

And this wouldn’t just apply to rifles, pistols, too.

Lisenced shooting ranges would be able to rent high-cap mags and clips to folks who could get their jollies off if they wished. But no private possession of any device that held over eight rounds. Full stop.

Just a thought.

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teleskiguy  Aug 16, 2019 • 11:35:43pm

That’s a powerful thing. Man’s wife is gunned down by a racist Trumper, has no family to show up to the funeral. So someone posts about it on the internet, and the love came after. That widowed man needed all that love. Needed it.

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teleskiguy  Aug 16, 2019 • 11:40:59pm

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teleskiguy  Aug 16, 2019 • 11:43:45pm

Woke Joe Walsh is still seriously weird.

And poor Joe Walsh, he of The James Gang and The Eagles. Charles is all too familiar with such a thing, as we know.

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teleskiguy  Aug 17, 2019 • 12:04:43am
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austin_blue  Aug 17, 2019 • 12:06:11am

Night all, sweet as you can scaly dreams.

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teleskiguy  Aug 17, 2019 • 12:11:55am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 17, 2019 • 2:18:54am

re: #71 teleskiguy

Bill Maher has been a miserable cock sucker for a long time. But the stupid asshole lost all of what was left of his credibility with this happy horse shit.

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It’s stupid two ways. He’s never gonna change as you say and two he’s ineffective too.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 17, 2019 • 2:45:43am

Peter Fonda has died at the age of 79.

Actor and director Peter Fonda, who stepped out of his legendary Hollywood father’s shadow to become a counterculture icon with his role in “Easy Rider,” has died. He was 79.

Fonda died of respiratory failure due to lung cancer at his Los Angeles home, his family said in a statement Friday. “It is with deep sorrow that we share the news that Peter Fonda has passed away,” the family said. “… In one of the saddest moments of our lives, we are not able to find the appropriate words to express the pain in our hearts.”

edition.cnn.com [Note: Autoplay video embedded at link]

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 17, 2019 • 3:38:30am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 17, 2019 • 3:42:22am

re: #85 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The “never swallowed” rule gets him out of all kinds of embarrassment.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 17, 2019 • 3:46:09am
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Teukka  Aug 17, 2019 • 4:02:58am

Okay guys, put any drinks down…

Facebook Post

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 17, 2019 • 4:04:26am

re: #88 Teukka

Okay guys, put any drinks down…

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Stupid Republicans sold it to Russian instead. They only think they are good businessmen.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 17, 2019 • 4:13:06am

re: #88 Teukka

Okay guys, put any drinks down…

The Trump administration has been a bottomless well for Andy Borowitz

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2019 • 4:35:23am

re: #90 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The Trump administration has been a bottomless well for Andy Borowitz

In the end, Satirists have no need to work, our nation has become a bad parody of itself…

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jeffreyw  Aug 17, 2019 • 4:40:07am

Good morning!

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 17, 2019 • 5:41:03am

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 17, 2019 • 5:56:10am
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dirkdigglerjr  Aug 17, 2019 • 6:06:50am

re: #82 teleskiguy

Elisabeth Moss

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 17, 2019 • 6:13:45am

Morning Lizardim.

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sagehen  Aug 17, 2019 • 6:15:32am

re: #72 austin_blue

So here’s a modest suggestion. Limit the devices that hold the bullets. We beat the Nazis with 8-round en bloc clips in our M-1 Garlands in WW 2. We have had limits on shell capacity in shotguns for fucking ever for game hunting. Pick a number. I would suggest eight.

Anyone possessing any magazine or clip exceeding eight rounds will be guilty of a federal firearm felony and will be sent to prison for ten years.

Chris Rock — Bullet Control (HD)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 17, 2019 • 6:24:57am
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sagehen  Aug 17, 2019 • 6:26:17am

re: #82 teleskiguy

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John Travolta

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 17, 2019 • 6:35:56am

re: #98 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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“Don’t bogart that fugu, my friend….”

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Chrysicat  Aug 17, 2019 • 6:38:58am
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William Lewis  Aug 17, 2019 • 7:01:59am

The biggest problem facing those who want gun registration is not the ideas as such.

Id rather see all semiautomatic rifles with detachable magazines made NFA items; don’t ban anything just regulate them like machine guns.

But the same problem applies with that - the compromised SCOTUS that doesn’t care about the Constitution, only what they are told to decide.

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Belafon  Aug 17, 2019 • 7:02:15am

re: #101 Chrysicat

We used to consider it an honor to defend the freedom of others. But people like UC don’t even consider it worth defending here.

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retired cynic  Aug 17, 2019 • 7:14:38am

apod.nasa.gov

Today’s image is really different: a 1901 50 minute exposure of the Orion Nebula.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2019 • 7:15:59am

re: #101 Chrysicat

Let’s go down the list:

-Innocent until proven guilty.
-Obama “put babies in cages” too. So has every president dealing with large numbers of illegal immigrantS. Also,the babies go home.
-He continues to denounce white supremacists.
-Would you rather be at war with NK?

What list is he referring to? It is easily reconstructed but I would like to see the reference points

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sagehen  Aug 17, 2019 • 7:21:29am

re: #101 Chrysicat

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Obama didn’t put babies in cages; unaccompanied minors were mostly adolescents, a few were as young as 11. They were people who’d made their own way here. They stayed locked up until a sponsor (aunt, uncle, cousin, something) could come and get them, and they had cots and showers and enough to eat while they were waiting — usually no more than a week or two.

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Belafon  Aug 17, 2019 • 7:24:32am
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Chrysicat  Aug 17, 2019 • 7:24:49am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

What list is he referring to? It is easily reconstructed but I would like to see the reference points

Oh, sorry. Shoulda pasted this one in the original comment for context on his rather than making you click it!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2019 • 7:27:54am

re: #106 sagehen

Obama didn’t put babies in cages; unaccompanied minors were mostly adolescents, a few were as young as 11. They were people who’d made their own way here. They stayed locked up until a sponsor (aunt, uncle, cousin, something) could come and get them, and they had cots and showers and enough to eat while they were waiting — usually no more than a week or two.

Obama did not have court authorities forcing the guards to let them bathe. Nor did he lose track of countless children who had been separated from their parents in a barbaric act of cruelty perpetrated in the name of “deterrence”.

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Belafon  Aug 17, 2019 • 7:31:51am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 17, 2019 • 7:33:03am

re: #108 Chrysicat

Oh, sorry. Shoulda pasted this one in the original comment for context on his rather than making you click it!

Okay, so, let’s go down the list again:

- He admitted to it on video, what more proof do you need?
- Others have addressed the “Obama put babies in cages” point.
- When has he denounced white supremacy? What weak statements he has made, he keeps walking back.
- You never addressed conspiracy theories, so I take it you concede that point.
- We would be at war with NK? Only if Trump was a dumbass… oh wait.
- You also never addressed the “perpetuating hatred” point.

In summary: Trump spreads hate and fear, and literally the guy’s only argument supporting him is, “Well, Obama put babies in cages too!” What a douchecanoe.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 17, 2019 • 7:44:20am
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wrenchwench  Aug 17, 2019 • 7:50:02am

re: #112 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Give Huck a FEMA tarp, then send him to Siberia to look for evidence of global waming.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 17, 2019 • 7:56:33am

re: #113 wrenchwench

Give Huck a FEMA tarp, then send him to Siberia to look for evidence of global waming.

It may be naivety but I do believe that this is the reason for Joe Walsh departing from the Trump cult: the Trump loyalty to Putin was too much for him and he is totally aghast at what he helped build, at least when it comes to FP. I still do not understand how Bolton can continue in this administration — was he always a Russophile or is he hoping to convert Trump to his philosophy? Good luck with that.

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wrenchwench  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:00:16am

re: #114 Hecuba’s daughter

It may be naivety but I do believe that this is the reason for Joe Walsh departing from the Trump cult: the Trump loyalty to Putin was too much for him and he is totally aghast at what he helped build, at least when it comes to FP. I still do not understand how Bolton can continue in this administration — was he always a Russophile or is he hoping to convert Trump to his philosophy? Good luck with that.

Bolton is a white supremacist. The overlap of that with rich Russian interests covers tiny areas of disagreement, like democracy and stuff. Trump is with him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:04:09am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:05:03am

re: #114 Hecuba’s daughter

It may be naivety but I do believe that this is the reason for Joe Walsh departing from the Trump cult: the Trump loyalty to Putin was too much for him and he is totally aghast at what he helped build, at least when it comes to FP. I still do not understand how Bolton can continue in this administration — was he always a Russophile or is he hoping to convert Trump to his philosophy? Good luck with that.

I rally wonder about that, I just see it that he is a power freak and was willing to suck it up and deal with it in order to be able to be part of the power structure.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:05:27am

re: #115 wrenchwench

Bolton is a white supremacist. The overlap of that with rich Russian interests covers tiny areas of disagreement, like democracy and stuff. Trump is with him.

And Bolton wants to bomb someplace to smithereens.
Doesn’t matter where.
And this administration is most likely to grant his wish.

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sagehen  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:09:15am

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

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JUST LOOK AT THOSE ANTI-FASCISTS IN ACTION!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:12:09am

since this is a history thread:

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Chrysicat  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:13:28am
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wrenchwench  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:14:33am

re: #119 sagehen

JUST LOOK AT THOSE ANTI-FASCISTS IN ACTION!!

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Antifa should be pronounced with the accent on the FA. I first heard the term in Germany, in the 90s. They said antiFA, just like the first part of antifascist (or antifascismus, or something). Just drop the scist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:16:01am

remembering Peter Fonda:

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Chrysicat  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:17:53am

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

remembering Peter Fonda:

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And since he died of lung cancer, I’m guessing that he was especially having trouble breathing that morning, which is why he tweeted that.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:20:15am

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Bolton wants to bomb someplace to smithereens.
Doesn’t matter where.
And this administration is most likely to grant his wish.

Trump is not an enthusiast for war. He’s ok with bombing non-white people but he seems very hesitant about engaging in a real war with Americans dying on a large scale in some foreign land. Remote attacks with automated weaponry are fine with him — but not a true conflict, unlike Bolton who is eager for death.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:22:29am

oh

WEST ALEXANDRIA, Ohio (AP) — The Ohio Department of Natural Resources says it’s unlikely there are any other crocodiles in a western Ohio creek where one was captured this week.

The Dayton Daily News reports more than a dozen kids were with a church group at a creek in a town west of Dayton when they spotted the large reptile.

Wildlife Officer Brad Turner says he responded Wednesday and killed the animal, citing “a public safety concern.”

The church members say it was necessary decision for the children who were going into the water.

Turner says it’s not clear how the crocodile got into the creek.

The reptile was over 7 feet (2 meters) long and shipped to Columbus where the state’s Department of Agriculture will investigate how it got there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:23:06am

re: #125 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump is not an enthusiast for war. He’s ok with bombing non-white people but he seems very hesitant about engaging in a real war with Americans dying on a large scale in some foreign land. Remote attacks with automated weaponry are fine with him — but not a true conflict, unlike Bolton who is eager for death.

Doesn’t matter what trump thinks, he’s surrounded himself with dangerous end times zealots.

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wrenchwench  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:26:48am

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

Doesn’t matter what trump thinks, he’s surrounded himself with dangerous end times zealots.

…who have an ability to TELL Trump what trump thinks.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:29:01am

re: #22 retired cynic

Ordinarily, I would not say that. But this time…

Until the GOP radically reforms itself, which may not occur in our lifetimes, I can’t think of any reason to vote for a Republican for President or Congress, ever.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:30:15am

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

Doesn’t matter what trump thinks, he’s surrounded himself with dangerous end times zealots.

Because sane people don’t want to work with him. So we are left with the worst of all possible worlds: an irreligious narcissist who refuses to hire anyone who challenges him surrounded by theocrats who are willing to say or do anything to get power — “worshiping” Trump so that he provides them the keys to the kingdom of heaven, i.e. absolute power in the here and now.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:32:14am

re: #25 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I’ve been seeing that ever since she announced she would seek the nomination.

There are plenty of rodent copulators on the right, because for all effective purposes they don’t have a primary (sorry Bill Weld); they can focus all their attention on sowing dissent in Democratic ranks.

On the other hand, there are plenty of purity ponies on the left. We don’t need a left wing version of the Tea Party.

For me, I want the leftiest leftist lefty candidate who ever lefted a lefty campaign in modern times. That’s for the primaries. In the general election, I am pragmatic and I want Trump out of office. That means voting for the only other candidate who can defeat him (not a third party, write-in, or worse, stay home).

If I don’t get that lefty candidate, I can be part of the group who pushes a Democratic president further left. President Obama wasn’t for marriage equality until he was, for example (though I think when Joe Biden mentioned it, that was sort of a trial balloon, or maybe the VP forced him into it).

Just keep in mind that, regardless of who wins the Presidency, the domestic legislative agenda will be set by either McConnell (nothing gets passed) or Joe Manchin (the 50th vote for whatever can be fit into a reconciliation bill).

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Belafon  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:33:32am

re: #121 Chrysicat

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Reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Marge’s sisters kidnap Richard Dean Anderson and expect him to still be Macgyver.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:34:17am

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Ok, we can shut down the internet now.

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Floridians breath a sigh of relief that for once its not Florida Man.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:36:23am

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

Doesn’t matter what trump thinks, he’s surrounded himself with dangerous end times zealots.

anyone with any ideals, standards or a reputation that they consider worth preserving is not going to sully it by association with Trump

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Belafon  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:38:21am

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

Doesn’t matter what trump thinks, he’s surrounded himself with dangerous end times zealots.

They still can’t quite seem to get him over that last hurdle though, but they probably haven’t played the “it’ll help your reelection chances” card yet.

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Belafon  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:39:03am

re: #131 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Just keep in mind that, regardless of who wins the Presidency, the domestic legislative agenda will be set by either McConnell (nothing gets passed) or Joe Manchin (the 50th vote for whatever can be fit into a reconciliation bill).

Which is why we need more than 50 senators.

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wrenchwench  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:51:57am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 17, 2019 • 8:59:18am

re: #131 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Just keep in mind that, regardless of who wins the Presidency, the domestic legislative agenda will be set by either McConnell (nothing gets passed) or Joe Manchin (the 50th vote for whatever can be fit into a reconciliation bill).

This is why the filibuster and 60 vote rule must be killed.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 17, 2019 • 9:16:54am

re: #136 Belafon

Which is why we need more than 50 senators.

If the Democrats do win in a landslide and get to 51 or 52 Senators, and I hope they do, then the legislative agenda will still be set by someone like Doug Jones, Tester or Sinema, and will be limited to things which can be passed in a reconciliation bill. I love Warren’s proposals, but we have to face the reality that very little of it will become law. Now if I could herd 50 Democratic Senate cats into abolishing the filibuster, granting statehood to D.C., P.R., US Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa and the Marianas Islands and getting some shit done, I would.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 17, 2019 • 9:23:34am

re: #139 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If the Democrats do win in a landslide and get to 51 or 52 Senators, and I hope they do, then the legislative agenda will still be set by someone like Doug Jones, Tester or Sinema, and will be limited to things which can be passed in a reconciliation bill. I love Warren’s proposals, but we have to face the reality that very little of it will become law. Now if I could herd 50 Democratic Senate cats into abolishing the filibuster, granting statehood to D.C., P.R., US Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa and the Marianas Islands and getting some shit done, I would.

We need to keep Doug Jones in the Senate for the same reason we need to help John Bel Edwards hold on to the Governorship in Louisiana. Both are far more centrist than any Republican.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 17, 2019 • 9:25:19am

Weird-o-rama!
Airport worker fired for slipping ‘you ugly’ note to traveler
‘Neal Strassner says a security guard handed him a torn piece of paper with the two words scrawled on it.”

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Belafon  Aug 17, 2019 • 9:27:30am

re: #140 Joe Bacon 🌹

We need to keep Doug Jones in the Senate for the same reason we need to help John Bel Edwards hold on to the Governorship in Louisiana. Both are far more centrist than any Republican.

Even the centrist Democrats are going to have to realize that the only way to get things passed is to get rid of the filibuster. There are no centrist Republicans. Let conservative Democrats be the conservative representatives on bills.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 17, 2019 • 9:29:50am

re: #140 Joe Bacon 🌹

We need to keep Doug Jones in the Senate for the same reason we need to help John Bel Edwards hold on to the Governorship in Louisiana. Both are far more centrist than any Republican.

If Roy Moore wins the Alabama primary, I’m a Doug Jones volunteer. If he has no chance, I’m working for Dems across the border. (The leadership of the Alabama Dem Party has spent the last week attacking DJ.)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 17, 2019 • 9:38:13am

Interesting article from Larry Sabato predicting the end of the filibuster and 60 voter rule.

KEY POINTS FROM THIS ARTICLE

— With the exception of a brief stint in 2009-2010 enabled by a string of improbable Democratic victories, no party has commanded a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate since the 1970s.

— Given the current partisan composition of the states, it seems nearly impossible for either party to gain 60 seats for the foreseeable future.

— The Republicans, absent any major proposals needing 60 votes, lacked an incentive to end the filibuster in 2017. The Democrats, in contrast, have several such proposals heading into 2020.

crystalball.centerforpolitics.org

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Chrysicat  Aug 17, 2019 • 9:43:26am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 17, 2019 • 9:50:53am

re: #78 teleskiguy

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ckkatz  Aug 17, 2019 • 9:52:02am

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Bolton wants to bomb someplace to smithereens.
Doesn’t matter where.
And this administration is most likely to grant his wish.

My working assumption is that Bolton is a washed up has-been and knew it. That he basically took this job as a last chance to make something more of his failed career.

I suspect also, that it has slowly dawned upon him that his current gig is not going to help how he will end up being viewed in history.

And yes, being a war-mongering ass-h*le also probably played a part.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 17, 2019 • 9:55:20am

re: #147 ckkatz

Yep, Bolton is probably pissed that Trump isn’t as eager to drop bombs than Bolton thought he was.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 17, 2019 • 9:55:47am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2019 • 9:55:48am

re: #147 ckkatz

My working assumption is that Bolton is a washed up has-been and knew it. That he basically took this job as a last chance to make something more of his failed career.

I suspect also, that it has slowly dawned upon him that his current gig is not going to help how he will end up being viewed in history.

And yes, being a war-mongering ass-h*le also probably played a part.

He basically got the nobody because nobody else with any degree of competence would take it.

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Ming5000  Aug 17, 2019 • 10:17:46am

re: #149 Joe Bacon 🌹

I found Tom Garrahan on twitter.
Great cartoons. Many have only 1 or 2 retweets.
@tomgarrahanart

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Charles Johnson  Aug 17, 2019 • 10:18:01am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2019 • 10:22:24am

re: #152 Charles Johnson

Of course this is how Trump reacts to the growing threat of white supremacist mass murder - by demonizing an anti-fascist group that has never killed anyone.

and by extension, as ANTIFA = terror, therefore anyone who opposes Fascism supports terrorists

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 17, 2019 • 10:24:51am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 17, 2019 • 10:26:07am
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Charles Johnson  Aug 17, 2019 • 10:27:17am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 17, 2019 • 10:28:38am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and by extension, as ANTIFA = terror, therefore anyone who opposes Fascism supports terrorists

That is a source of confusion that must be eliminated. “Anti-fascist” is an adjective that describes everybody still here on LGF. “Antifa” as a noun describes a few notional organizations that think they exist, but hardly do IRL. (Name the treasurer or secretary of Antifa.) The violent bogeyman that grabs the public imagination is best identified as the Black Bloc, a whole bunch of assholes that go parasitic on Antifa (org) and anti-fascist (movement) actions.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 17, 2019 • 10:33:11am
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 17, 2019 • 10:33:58am

re: #154 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Look at all the Antifas in their MAGA hats…. Oh, wait….

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Decatur Deb  Aug 17, 2019 • 10:34:33am

re: #158 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Every dumbassed dog gets one bite, I guess.

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Citizen K  Aug 17, 2019 • 10:36:15am

re: #157 Decatur Deb

That is a source of confusion that must be eliminated. “Anti-fascist” is an adjective that describes everybody still here. “Antifa” as a noun describes a few notional organizations that think they exist, but hardly do IRL. (Name the treasurer or secretary of Antifa.) The violent bogeyman that grabs the public imagination is best identified as the Black Bloc, a whole bunch of assholes that go parasitic on Antifa (org) and anti-fascist (movement) actions.

Black Bloc has been around for ages too, and mostly latched onto protests against corporate money such as IMF protests and Occupy. And they usually end up being the shit that the media always defines those protests as despite essentially being poison pills rather than actually a dedicated part of any of those movements.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 17, 2019 • 10:37:58am

re: #158 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Yet

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Decatur Deb  Aug 17, 2019 • 10:38:32am

re: #161 Citizen K

Black Bloc has been around for ages too, and mostly latched onto protests against corporate money such as IMF protests and Occupy. And they usually end up being the shit that the media always defines those protests as despite essentially being poison pills rather than actually a dedicated part of any of those movements.

They tried to jack up our Iraq War protest in Lafayette Park. In Europe, they’ve been a pathway for police infiltrators that resulted in at least one death (Genoa).

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 17, 2019 • 10:40:38am

Steve Lookner: Live coverage of Portland protest
youtube.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2019 • 10:45:12am

re: #157 Decatur Deb

That is a source of confusion that must be eliminated. “Anti-fascist” is an adjective that describes everybody still here on LGF. “Antifa” as a noun describes a few notional organizations that think they exist, but hardly do IRL. (Name the treasurer or secretary of Antifa.) The violent bogeyman that grabs the public imagination is best identified as the Black Bloc, a whole bunch of assholes that go parasitic on Antifa (org) and anti-fascist (movement) actions.

The whole point is to sow confusion and associate anti-fascism with its most extreme representatives.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 17, 2019 • 10:48:22am

re: #165 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The whole point is to sow confusion and associate anti-fascism with its most extreme representatives.

The first step is for straightforward anti-fascists to stop sloppily calling themselves “Antifa” unless they actually are enlisted in an answerable organization of that name.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 17, 2019 • 10:53:34am

Benjyboy fucks up again!

wonkette.com

On Friday, The Daily Wire — Ben Shapiro’s home for cranky old men who whine a lot about how unfair it is that no one will let them win the culture war — excitedly announced the debut of “Dumpy the Democrat Dumpster Fire,” featured on a brand new t-shirt guaranteed to make all of the liberal hipsters at the coffee shop go “Gee willikers! I guess Republicans are a lot more with it than we thought! Maybe we should reconsider Ben Shapiro’s latest hot take on why poor people are stupid!” Oh boy, the libs were going to be so totally owned.

Of course, instead of actually creating the design for the t-shirt themselves or hiring someone to do so, they just went ahead and stole the design from actual artist Truck Torrence, stuck a little “D” on it for “Democrats” and then tried to sell the t-shirt on Amazon.

And they would have gotten away with it too! If, you know, people hadn’t noticed. Which is a thing they’re pretty much guaranteed to do when you very obviously steal something from someone, post it publicly on Twitter and try to sell it.

Thankfully, after both the Torrence and a whole lot of other people alerted Amazon to the art theft, the t-shirt was taken down from their site.

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Belafon  Aug 17, 2019 • 10:53:36am

re: #157 Decatur Deb

That is a source of confusion that must be eliminated. “Anti-fascist” is an adjective that describes everybody still here on LGF. “Antifa” as a noun describes a few notional organizations that think they exist, but hardly do IRL. (Name the treasurer or secretary of Antifa.) The violent bogeyman that grabs the public imagination is best identified as the Black Bloc, a whole bunch of assholes that go parasitic on Antifa (org) and anti-fascist (movement) actions.

1. They’re counting on that confusion.
2. They’re counting on explanations like this, which also confuse the issue by trying to separate Antifa from the fact that they are opposing fascists.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 17, 2019 • 10:53:40am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 17, 2019 • 11:00:34am

re: #168 Belafon

1. They’re counting on that confusion.
2. They’re counting on explanations like this, which also confuse the issue by trying to separate Antifa from the fact that they are opposing fascists.

What is the most likely end-state of badly-planned and -led street action? Let Antifa have the glory and the shit for their actions, without painting the whole anti-fascist impulse.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 17, 2019 • 11:04:10am

Not how the asshole in the Log Cabin smirks and shows his support for a President who wants to permit discrimination against him…

crooksandliars.com


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