Another Exceptional Tiny Desk Concert: Half•alive

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Watch half•alive play “RUNAWAY”, “still feel.” and “ice cold.” at the Tiny Desk.

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Aug. 12, 2019 | Robin Hilton — Well before arriving for this performance, the three guys in half•alive asked for the exact dimensions of the space behind Bob Boilen’s desk. Known for their live shows, with elaborate, synchronized dancing and costume changes, the group naturally wondered how they’d pull everything off in such a cozy space.

Their solution? Have the dancers sit for the performance. The choreography, now restricted to the width of two chairs, was incredible. You’ll see how it all works on the final song half•alive played, “ice cold.,” a new track from the band’s just-released debut full-length, Now, Not Yet. And, if you’re one of the 25-million people who’ve watched the band’s must-see video for the song “still feel,” you’ll likely recognize the dancers, Jordan Johnson and Aiden Carberry.

The band, fronted by singer and guitarist Josh Taylor, didn’t try to squeeze in any costume changes. But in addition to the sitting dancers, they also brought along cellist Callie Galvez and violinist Emiko Bankson for a beautiful but propulsive version of the song “RUNAWAY.”

Formed in Long Beach, Calif. in 2016, half•alive is a band with a clear vision and gift for design, not just in the earworms they write, but in their entire presentation, with often-matching outfits and carefully selected color schemes. It wasn’t at all surprising to see and hear the care they took to make their Tiny Desk debut a memorable one.

SET LIST
“RUNAWAY”
“still feel.”
“ice cold.”

MUSICIANS
Joshua Taylor: vocals, guitars; Brett Kramer: drums, Wurlitzer, Septavox, vocals; J Tyler Johnson: Wurlitzer, bass, vocals; Jordan Johnson: choreography; Aiden Carberry: choreography; Emiko Bankson: violin; Callie Galvez: cello

CREDITS
Producers: Robin Hilton, Morgan Noelle Smith; Creative Director: Bob Boilen; Audio Engineers: Josh Rogosin, Patrick Boyd; Videographers: Jeremiah Rhodes, Morgan Noelle Smith, Maia Stern; Associate Producer: Bobby Carter; Production Assistant: Paul Georgoulis; Photo: Shuran Huang/NPR

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gocart mozart  Aug 19, 2019 • 8:23:11pm

Thread destroys Shapiro

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gocart mozart  Aug 19, 2019 • 8:24:59pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 19, 2019 • 8:25:22pm

Utah Outcasts takes on one of the troubling developments of the month: Pumpkin Spice Spam.

(11:26, caution for NSFW language)

Pumpkin Spice SPAM is Coming!

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gocart mozart  Aug 19, 2019 • 8:32:58pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 19, 2019 • 8:33:04pm

From downstairs:

re: #411 HappyWarrior

It really is something how the Greenwaldian left goes all out to deny the Russian shit but then again they like being willing ratfucks for Vlad since they’re morons. I don’t trust their judgment at all.

The Greenwald crowd continue to push the “RUSSIA WAS A HOAX!!!” bit largely because the moment people started talking about it, they stopped buying into “The Dems lost because they didn’t do enough to appeal to white people!” whine. A lot of folks forget that, in that short period between Election Night and Flynn getting caught, the media and the dudebros were singing from the same hymn sheets about how the Dems had totally blown the election because they hadn’t gone after the “economically anxious” crowd.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2019 • 8:42:22pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

From downstairs:

The Greenwald crowd continue to push the “RUSSIA WAS A HOAX!!!” bit largely because the moment people started talking about it, they stopped buying into “The Dems lost because they didn’t do enough to appeal to white people!” whine. A lot of folks forget that, in that short period between Election Night and Flynn getting caught, the media and the dudebros were singing from the same hymn sheets about how the Dems had totally blown the election because they hadn’t gone after the “economically anxious” crowd.

To me they prove the circular spectrum correct every time.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2019 • 8:43:49pm

re: #1 gocart mozart

Thread destroys Shapiro

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He’s been destroying himself a lot lately with his own stupidity. And good, the more people see what a grade A hack he is, the more people will realize he’s just another right wing moron.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 19, 2019 • 8:46:05pm

Just a reminder how Andy Ngo incited this latest confrontation.

One political organizer in Portland who has received death threats stemming from Ngo’s work says, “It’s an arms race for money, and the narrative isn’t the point — the grift is. The larger, more offensive thing you can do, the system rewards it.”

This appears to be Ngo’s model. He uses social media to push biased opinions in conjunction with selectively edited videos that play to the bigotry of his audience. His followers get worked up, and this is often followed by a deluge of threats against his subject.

The prick deserves to be in jail.

jacobinmag.com

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HappyWarrior  Aug 19, 2019 • 8:48:18pm

Going to bad but it feels like Weimar Germany out there sometimes.

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BigPapa  Aug 19, 2019 • 8:51:14pm

I’m finally starting to understand the economy of hate. In the old days hatebreeds would print stuff, make music, communicate directly. Minimally effective, and the consumption of the information generated little profit. Now that we’re in the age of mega info and monetized clicks there’s a middle man between the haters and potential recruits profiting off the transfer of information.

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gocart mozart  Aug 19, 2019 • 8:53:11pm
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DodgerFan1988  Aug 19, 2019 • 8:55:16pm

“Hail Hydra!”

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gocart mozart  Aug 19, 2019 • 8:59:19pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 19, 2019 • 8:59:26pm

re: #12 DodgerFan1988

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“Hail Hydra!”

Not surprised since the guy who now runs Marvel is one of Metamucilini’s confidants.

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gocart mozart  Aug 19, 2019 • 9:01:57pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 19, 2019 • 9:03:39pm
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Dread Pirate  Aug 19, 2019 • 9:13:28pm

Ralph Steadman - Porkey Pie!!

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Dread Pirate  Aug 19, 2019 • 9:17:33pm

Ralph Steadman - Stature of Liberty Takers

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Dread Pirate  Aug 19, 2019 • 9:27:45pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 19, 2019 • 9:30:57pm

re: #13 gocart mozart

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Meanwhile, on Earth B, Faux reporters speculate that the NYT 1619 project is an effort to distract the nation from how racist President Clinton is in the lead-up to her reelection bid.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 19, 2019 • 9:34:12pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 19, 2019 • 9:37:20pm

re: #21 Dread Pirate

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That’s why the smart fisherman brings a bat along, for those fish that don’t know when to just give up.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 19, 2019 • 9:39:25pm

re: #21 Dread Pirate

So racism is all over because 500K people died during the civil war? All forgiven, nothing to see here? He cannot be serious. And yet he is. Jesus forgave them so it’s all better now. Wow, it’s just that easy. Thanks Erick!

What an idiot.

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Targetpractice  Aug 19, 2019 • 9:41:12pm

Erick, Son of Erick is in danger of having his “Conservative” card pulled for daring to suggest the Civil War was about slavery, when all good wingnuts know that it was totally about “states rights.”

//

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Targetpractice  Aug 19, 2019 • 10:01:57pm

By the way, Erick, if 500K Union soldiers died “for the propriation of the nation’s original sin,” then what did Confederate soldiers die for? And if it wasn’t for what the Union soldiers were dying for, then wouldn’t you as a God-fearing man agree that we need to destroy all the monuments to them?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 19, 2019 • 10:14:42pm
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Dread Pirate  Aug 19, 2019 • 10:17:55pm

The Executive branch is evil to the core.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 19, 2019 • 10:21:20pm

It will take at least a generation to undo the damage Trump and the RepubliKKKlans have inflicted on us.

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austin_blue  Aug 19, 2019 • 10:22:11pm

re: #20 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, on Earth B, Faux reporters speculate that the NYT 1619 project is an effort to distract the nation from how racist President Clinton is in the lead-up to her reelection bid.

//

I’m reading the 1619 Times articles. They are just brutal.

I understand why the alt-right do not like them at all. It exposes the history of chattle slavery, the decision made by the founding fathers, damn them, to make the political decision to count slaves as 3/5ths of a human being so that the southern states would have more members in the House.

It was despicable, but necessary to get the southern States to sign on to the Constitution because the earlier agreed compact, the Articles of Confederation, were fatally flawed.

This is an excellent explanation of real history. Well documented, beautifully curated, and absolutely accurate.

The gaspers that are attacking it are, not to put too fine point on it, racist motherfuckers. Full stop.

Night all, I am still reading the 1619 stories and will be for several days.

They do not make for sweet scaly dreams. They make for significant questions about how the founders of this country dealt with the fundamental question of chattle slavery.

Just check out the relationship between Thomas Jefferson and his half-brother while he was writing the Declaration of Independance.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 19, 2019 • 11:00:18pm

re: #10 BigPapa

I’m finally starting to understand the economy of hate. In the old days hatebreeds would print stuff, make music, communicate directly. Minimally effective, and the consumption of the information generated little profit. Now that we’re in the age of mega info and monetized clicks there’s a middle man between the haters and potential recruits profiting off the transfer of information.

I don’t know if I would go with “minimally effective” in the old days.

When neo-Nazis gained control of George Wallace’s “Youth for Wallace” membership lists, they leveraged it into the National Alliance, the best financed and organised Nazi group since the German American Bund (but a lot more violent). They then used their financial clout to acquire Resistance Records, a moribund white-power record label. With that record label and signing new “artists,” they were making tons of money and recruiting tens of thousands of members.

They were only broken when the Southern Poverty Law Center acquired a videotape of the leader of the National Alliance basically calling all the people who bought from Resistance Records a bunch of morons, which then set up a flurry of in-fighting between the groups that financed the National Alliance and NA itself. NA tore itself apart over political infighting, since in conservatism you can only gain power by reducing someone else’s power.

Marc Theissen of the Washington Post came to the defence of fascists and Christian groups trying to take rights or promote violence by claiming the SPLC “has lost its credibility by smearing good people.”

splcenter.org
washingtonpost.com

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 19, 2019 • 11:12:06pm

re: #30 Anymouse 🌹🎃

From the opening paragraph of the article at SPLC on the National Alliance and the lack of effectiveness in the Seventies and Eighties before the advent of social media and outlets like YouTube:

Explicitly genocidal in its ideology, NA materials call for the eradication of the Jews and other races — what a principal foundational document describes as “a temporary unpleasantness” — and the creation of an all-white homeland. Founded by William Pierce in 1970, the group produced assassins, bombers and bank robbers, among other things. Pierce’s novel, The Turner Diaries, was the inspiration for Timothy McVeigh’s 1995 bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City and many other acts of terror. After Pierce died unexpectedly in 2002, the group suffered several splits and ultimately lost most of its members.

(bold mine)

Groups were quite effective before Endless September.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 19, 2019 • 11:17:42pm

re: #11 gocart mozart

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 19, 2019 • 11:21:03pm

re: #30 Anymouse 🌹🎃

The issue the SPLC had that Theissan was saying the SPLC “lost all credibility” for was over Maajid Nawaz being included on an SPLC list of anti-Muslim extremists.

The SPLC fell into the same thought trap that many religious people often do. Nawaz was at one time a Muslim extremist, and served a prison sentence in Egypt for that. During that time, he rethought his positions and abandoned Islam, becoming an atheist, calling for a “secular Islam,” and attacking the tenets of the faith.

The SPLC took “attacking the tenets of Islam” with “attacking Muslims.” (Been there, done that with Christians who send me threats occasionally over counter-apologetics.)

Conservatives will now cite this one case like parrots to say the SPLC has no credibility (especially people like Pamela Geller and Marc Theissan).

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Dread Pirate  Aug 19, 2019 • 11:22:06pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 19, 2019 • 11:26:15pm

re: #34 Dread Pirate

(But I NEED Twitter for “name a reason here”)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 19, 2019 • 11:29:57pm

In that thread on a person noting there is a conspiracy group on YouTube (which they won’t ban) which promotes the idea Jews aren’t really human but are from space:

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Dread Pirate  Aug 19, 2019 • 11:35:10pm

He won the Internets today.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 19, 2019 • 11:37:10pm

Organic salad, with added protein

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teleskiguy  Aug 19, 2019 • 11:39:54pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 19, 2019 • 11:48:43pm

Wholly crap that thread exposing 4chan’s trolling as Jews is full of anti-Semitic tweets.

It’s an open field of fire for Twitterati to report (so Twitter will ignore it because they support anti-Semitism through their silence) and block.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 12:19:54am

I’m off to bed. Trip to town tomorrow for a new wind$creen. Catch y’all later.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 20, 2019 • 1:04:57am
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Dread Pirate  Aug 20, 2019 • 1:33:23am

It’s going as expected.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 20, 2019 • 1:41:14am

So, some shower thoughts for August 20th 2019.

Let’s say Trump loses come next November (knock on wood!); would he resign and in return, Pence issues a blanket pardon for Trump and his family - and cronies - for any Federal crimes committed during Trump’s presidency as Pence steps in as a caretaker President until the new Democratic POTUS formally takes office in January 2021?

I was thinking in that scenario, Trump could well resign as early as a week or two after Election Day.

Now granted, there’s absolutely nothing Pence could do regarding pardoning state-level charges, so on that, Trump would be on his own. So in order to avoid any consequences for state-level crimes, Trump and company would have to flee the country to another nation that has no extradition treaty with the United States. Quite famously, Russia has no such treaty with the USA……and who knows? Maybe that’s what Trump and Putin talk about on the phone and in private - we have no way of really knowing, do we?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 20, 2019 • 2:55:04am

re: #16 gocart mozart

In The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay, author Michael Chabon describes a couple of aspiring Jewish comic book artists in the 1930’s, one of whom has fled the Prague ghetto. They create “The Escapist”, whose power is to get out of any restraints put on him.

And these figures were fighting Nazi villains long before the US armed forces ever were.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 20, 2019 • 2:57:48am

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹🎃

In that thread on a person noting there is a conspiracy group on YouTube (which they won’t ban) which promotes the idea Jews aren’t really human but are from space:

Jews in Space

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 20, 2019 • 3:55:04am

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

Now granted, there’s absolutely nothing Pence could do regarding pardoning state-level charges, so on that, Trump would be on his own. So in order to avoid any consequences for state-level crimes, Trump and company would have to flee the country to another nation that has no extradition treaty with the United States. Quite famously, Russia has no such treaty with the USA……and who knows? Maybe that’s what Trump and Putin talk about on the phone and in private - we have no way of really knowing, do we?

If Trump fled the US, his ability to earn money from speeches and appearances would be seriously compromised. And that is what he will have to do once the courts seize his assets. That is the only flaw in this scenario.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 20, 2019 • 3:59:58am

Yesterday my team of 3 volunteers and I went eyeball-to-eyeball with1000 college students. Today is a light class schedule, so fewer of us will give fewer of them the chance to register to vote. In terms of registrations and student awareness the results are “mixed”. A few of these kids will be voting when I’m 50 years dead, so it’s a good action. It’s a thousand year war.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 20, 2019 • 4:07:39am

re: #48 Decatur Deb

Yesterday my team of 3 volunteers and I went eyeball-to-eyeball with1000 college students. Today is a light class schedule, so fewer of us will give fewer of them the chance to register to vote. In terms of registrations and student awareness the results are “mixed”. A few of these kids will be voting when I’m 50 years dead, so it’s a good action. It’s a thousand year war.

We are dealing with people who want to turn back all the gains we have come to take for granted in personal freedoms, women’s, minority and LGBT rights as well as removing the few environmental and work safety protections that remain.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 20, 2019 • 4:17:46am

re: #47 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If Trump fled the US, his ability to earn money from speeches and appearances would be seriously compromised. And that is what he will have to do once the courts seize his assets. That is the only flaw in this scenario.

True, but he could “sell” his assets to, let’s say, a Russian investment group prior to flying the coop.

You know, Trump Tower and other real estate holdings. Of course, he’d likely lose Mar-a-Lago and his golf resorts, unless some Russian “investors” bought that too.

But……that would require foresight, diligence and careful planning. And, well, we’re talking Donald J. Trump here.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 20, 2019 • 4:18:25am

It was good of the president to put a single face on such a varied pack of miscreants.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 20, 2019 • 4:20:46am

Off to see their faces, so full of hope and confusion.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 20, 2019 • 4:31:17am

Back in a bit.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 20, 2019 • 4:44:23am

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹🎃

In that thread on a person noting there is a conspiracy group on YouTube (which they won’t ban) which promotes the idea Jews aren’t really human but are from space:

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There is (of course) documentary evidence of that!
dailymotion.com

(Edit: Need to read to end of new posts before replying. Oh well, it’s still a humorous bit.)

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jeffreyw  Aug 20, 2019 • 5:23:51am

Good morning!

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 20, 2019 • 5:25:47am

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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(But I NEED Twitter for “name a reason here”)

Refresh my memory: who here was arguing that they NEED Twitter?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 20, 2019 • 5:32:00am

re: #56 A Three Hour Tour

Refresh my memory: who here was arguing that they NEED Twitter?

I see enough Twitter here to convince me that I can continue to live without it

I broke down and joined FB some years ago as it a good way to organize music sessions, advertise gigs and generally keep in touch with far-flung family and friends.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Aug 20, 2019 • 5:42:19am

I have a great Twitter handle, @splendid, which I almost never use. The Book of Faces is essential to me but Twitter is absolutely not.

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 20, 2019 • 6:05:03am

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I see enough Twitter here to convince me that I can continue to live without it

I broke down and joined FB some years ago as it a good way to organize music sessions, advertise gigs and generally keep in touch with far-flung family and friends.

I’m not on Twitter either, and have no intention of being on twitter. I was on LiveJournal until shortly after the Russians bought it and I abandoned the platform, and I am on tumblr, and I am on Facebook (after having resisted it for a few years), where I deliberately keep myself to around only fifty well-vetted friends (most of whom I’ve interacted strongly with for 25 years as part of a now-defunct e-mail list) and immediate family members, a couple of college friends, and three former schoolmates who are definitely not members of my alma mater’s Alumni Fascist Appreciation Society.

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steve_davis  Aug 20, 2019 • 6:10:56am

re: #24 Targetpractice

Erick, Son of Erick is in danger of having his “Conservative” card pulled for daring to suggest the Civil War was about slavery, when all good wingnuts know that it was totally about “states rights.”

//

yeah….the states’ rights to maintain the institution of slavery.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 20, 2019 • 6:19:08am

As a general rule, I only FB friend people I know from Real Life (TM) and wish to remain in personal contact with. The handful of exceptions are people whom I know through others or have some professional connection or shared hobby interest.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 20, 2019 • 6:21:52am

re: #60 steve_davis

yeah….the states’ rights to maintain the institution of slavery.

They have managed to twist it from “slavery was not the only reason for southern secession and the Civil War” to “slavery had nothing at all to do with secession and the Civil War”

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Belafon  Aug 20, 2019 • 6:30:59am

re: #56 A Three Hour Tour

Refresh my memory: who here was arguing that they NEED Twitter?

We here don’t need it, because most of us are white and middle class. OTOH, there’s plenty of evidence that numerous blacks have survived encounters with police and other people because of the visibility a video gets on Twitter.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 20, 2019 • 6:31:28am

re: #39 teleskiguy

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That is so cool. I love those old timey family photos.

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Belafon  Aug 20, 2019 • 6:33:23am

If it weren’t for Twitter, the racist lifeguards, hotel workers, store clerks, etc. Would still be working.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 20, 2019 • 6:36:26am

Sorry, Greg, You and your hell-spawn constituency of goobers, grifters and Kremlin dupes don’t get to decide who is welcome here.

Facebook Post

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 20, 2019 • 6:47:20am

Better dead than Red!

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Ming5000  Aug 20, 2019 • 6:48:14am

Cute.. :-) Apparently a talk-to-text comment was interrupted by a baby’s poop event.

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DangerMan  Aug 20, 2019 • 6:49:32am

lets forget the white house is trying to
- get the fed to cut interest rates by 1 whole point
- and to bring back quantitative easing
- while everyone who can get within a mile of a microphone is saying “the fundamentals of the economy are strong”

here’s my question:

can the economy be strong, say right now and there also be real good indicators that a recession is looming?

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 20, 2019 • 6:51:28am

re: #46 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Video

Somebody added scenes from “Star Wars” to the “Jews in Space” clip.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 20, 2019 • 6:53:59am

Another conspiracy added to the Qcrap.

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Belafon  Aug 20, 2019 • 6:54:46am

re: #69 DangerMan

lets forget the white house is trying to
- get the fed to cut interest rates by 1 whole point
- and to bring back quantitative easing
- while everyone who can get within a mile of a microphone is saying “the fundamentals of the economy are strong”

here’s my question:

can the economy be strong, say right now and there also be real good indicators that a recession is looming?

Yes. An analogy, if you’re going 100mph and push on the brakes you’re still going to be going fast but slowing down.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 20, 2019 • 6:58:01am

re: #71 The Pie Overlord!

Rick Wiles believes that Jeffrey Epstein is “alive and well” and living in another country after receiving a full face transplant … “or maybe even a head transplant.”

The fact that the MSM are not reporting on this indicates that it is definitely a Clinton/Soros/Deep State cover-up…

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steve_davis  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:03:13am

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

So, some shower thoughts for August 20th 2019.

Let’s say Trump loses come next November (knock on wood!); would he resign and in return, Pence issues a blanket pardon for Trump and his family - and cronies - for any Federal crimes committed during Trump’s presidency as Pence steps in as a caretaker President until the new Democratic POTUS formally takes office in January 2021?

I was thinking in that scenario, Trump could well resign as early as a week or two after Election Day.

Now granted, there’s absolutely nothing Pence could do regarding pardoning state-level charges, so on that, Trump would be on his own. So in order to avoid any consequences for state-level crimes, Trump and company would have to flee the country to another nation that has no extradition treaty with the United States. Quite famously, Russia has no such treaty with the USA……and who knows? Maybe that’s what Trump and Putin talk about on the phone and in private - we have no way of really knowing, do we?

you are forgetting that presidents have secret service detachments for life, and those agents swear an oath to the constitution, not to trump. trump isn’t “fleeing the country” unless he goes out a window while pretending he’s in the shower.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:07:29am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:08:35am

re: #74 steve_davis

you are forgetting that presidents have secret service detachments for life, and those agents swear an oath to the constitution, not to trump. trump isn’t “fleeing the country” unless he goes out a window while pretending he’s in the shower.

You’re right - I did forget about that.

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DangerMan  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:09:35am

re: #72 Belafon

Yes. An analogy, if you’re going 100mph and push on the brakes you’re still going to be going fast but slowing down.

these idiots think ‘if we just keep saying we’re still going fast, then we won’t hit that wall up ahead’

instead, like you say, we’re gonna run into it full steam

that’s enough messed up metaphors for one day

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steve_davis  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:09:37am

re: #68 Ming5000

Cute.. :-) Apparently a talk-to-text comment was interrupted by a baby’s poop event.

[Embedded content]

was this a transcript of David Vitter and his hooker?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:09:52am

re: #75 GlutenFreeJesus

MAGAts have more in common with the Palestinian government than they do with Israel

They are happy to overlook the fact that LGBTs serve in the Israeli army and that abortions are legal and freely available

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:10:08am

Someone cue up Queen’s “Another One Bites The Dust”:

A fifth member of the National Rifle Association’s board of directors has resigned, the latest in a string of high-profile defections within the powerful gun rights group in recent weeks.

NRA board member Richard Childress, a former NASCAR driver and the owner of a self-titled car racing enterprise, submitted his resignation to the board, John Frazer, the organization’s secretary, and NRA President Carolyn Meadows on Monday, according to a copy of the letter obtained by Newsweek.

This marks the fifth resignation from the NRA’s board of directors since August 1, when three board members quit after they allege they were sidelined for raising questions about apparently lavish spending and mismanagement by top executives.

Childress, along with former NRA President Lt. Col. Oliver North, had previously authored a memorandum to the chairman of the NRA’s audit committee and Frazer (in his dual capacity as general counsel) expressing how they were “deeply concerned” about the billable hours being racked up by the organization’s outside counsel, William A. Brewer III.

newsweek.com

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DangerMan  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:10:29am

re: #73 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The fact that the MSM are not reporting on this indicates that it is definitely a Clinton/Soros/Deep State cover-up…

maybe it’s an msm cover up
oh wait, does the deep state control the msm? i forget

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Jay C  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:11:25am

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

So, some shower thoughts for August 20th 2019.

Let’s say Trump loses come next November (knock on wood!); would he resign and in return, Pence issues a blanket pardon for Trump and his family - and cronies - for any Federal crimes committed during Trump’s presidency as Pence steps in as a caretaker President until the new Democratic POTUS formally takes office in January 2021?

I was thinking in that scenario, Trump could well resign as early as a week or two after Election Day.

Now granted, there’s absolutely nothing Pence could do regarding pardoning state-level charges, so on that, Trump would be on his own. So in order to avoid any consequences for state-level crimes, Trump and company would have to flee the country to another nation that has no extradition treaty with the United States. Quite famously, Russia has no such treaty with the USA……and who knows? Maybe that’s what Trump and Putin talk about on the phone and in private - we have no way of really knowing, do we?

Great - if somewhat overwrought* - scenario: but unlikely for a couple of reasons:

1. It’s likely Trump will have spent probably the entirety of the actual campaign making hysterically shouting baseless claims of “ELECTION FRAUD!!!” : it’s more likely he is going to stick it out screaming and yelling til the last minute (and then suddenly decide - on January 19 - that he’ll leave quietly “for the good of the country”). Remember that comment he made in 2016 about how he believes the only “legitimate” election is one he wins?? Like so much else, it was waved-away as a bad joke: but unfortunately, this is Donald Trump: he and his cultists actually go for this line….

2. A resignation-and-pardon scenario is basically going to be seen (however frantically the Admin and GOP may try to spin it otherwise) as an admission of guilt. One thing Trump has NEVER been known to do (NDA settlements notwithstanding).

*or would have been, pre-Trump-Era

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:13:57am

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I have a Trumper friend. She’s very misguided about guns due to a crazy ex that stalked her. Keeps posting memes about how Texas is the safest place in the country because of their lack of gun laws. True “freedom”. She wants to move there in the worst way. I’m a terrible person for wanting a Blue Texas after she does.

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DangerMan  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:14:06am

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

So, some shower thoughts for August 20th 2019.

Let’s say Trump loses come next November (knock on wood!); would he resign and in return, Pence issues a blanket pardon for Trump and his family - and cronies - for any Federal crimes committed during Trump’s presidency as Pence steps in as a caretaker President until the new Democratic POTUS formally takes office in January 2021?

I was thinking in that scenario, Trump could well resign as early as a week or two after Election Day.

Now granted, there’s absolutely nothing Pence could do regarding pardoning state-level charges, so on that, Trump would be on his own. So in order to avoid any consequences for state-level crimes, Trump and company would have to flee the country to another nation that has no extradition treaty with the United States. Quite famously, Russia has no such treaty with the USA……and who knows? Maybe that’s what Trump and Putin talk about on the phone and in private - we have no way of really knowing, do we?

he might, though he would go down as another president who resigned in disgrace (mostly because he was chicken)
the pardon would prove the ‘in disgrace part’
further, under that scenario i think the pardons would definitely be challenged

further, further, i read they dont have to wait till that scenairo. try this one:

trump signs the 25 amendment letter - as if for a general anesthetic surgery
pence is in charge
pence pardons…
trump signs second letter, or however it works, “im back in business”

again, while it might be how the constitution reads, it would be seen for the cynical ploy that it is

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:15:16am

Watching the news this morning. Not sorry Epstein offed himself.

Pretty disturbing that a Police Union can say it’s wrong to fire a cop for using a forbidden chokehold that directly results in death. I will always be struck by that video of the police in each others way so Michael Garner died instead of getting cuffed and taken in.

Is there no accountability acceptable?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:16:36am

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

Nope. But if you think Trump is apeshit crazy now, wait until after he loses in November, before he has to give everything up. The shit he’s going to do…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:19:32am

re: #85 Rightwingconspirator

The big thing for me about that, besides the cops murdering him of course, is that they didn’t even have to lay a single hand on him. Not a single reason to. Just write him the ticket. If he doesn’t take it, just leave it there. They escalated things on purpose just to get rid of an “annoyance”.

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DangerMan  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:22:00am

re: #82 Jay C

Great - if somewhat overwrought* - scenario: but unlikely for a couple of reasons:

1. It’s likely Trump will have spent probably the entirety of the actual campaign making hysterically shouting baseless claims of “ELECTION FRAUD!!!” : it’s more likely he is going to stick it out screaming and yelling til the last minute (and then suddenly decide - on January 19 - that he’ll leave quietly “for the good of the country”). Remember that comment he made in 2016 about how he believes the only “legitimate” election is one he wins?? Like so much else, it was waved-away as a bad joke: but unfortunately, this is Donald Trump: he and his cultists actually go for this line….

2. A resignation-and-pardon scenario is basically going to be seen (however frantically the Admin and GOP may try to spin it otherwise) as an admission of guilt. One thing Trump has NEVER been known to do (NDA settlements notwithstanding).

*or would have been, pre-Trump-Era

exactly
innocent people dont need pardons
‘yeah but this will stop all the phony witch hunts’
rich innocent people really dont need pardons

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DangerMan  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:23:57am

re: #85 Rightwingconspirator

Watching the news this morning. Not sorry Epstein offed himself.

Pretty disturbing that a Police Union can say it’s wrong to fire a cop for using a forbidden chokehold that directly results in death. I will always be struck by that video of the police in each others way so Michael Garner died instead of getting cuffed and taken in.

Is there no accountability acceptable?

its a bit of a bizarre take, but if you’re carrying a gun, apparently you can do no wrong and cant be responsible for anything, whether the gun’s involved or not

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DangerMan  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:25:03am

re: #87 GlutenFreeJesus

The big thing for me about that, besides the cops murdering him of course, is that they didn’t even have to lay a single hand on him. Not a single reason to. Just write him the ticket. If he doesn’t take it, just leave it there. They escalated things on purpose just to get rid of an “annoyance”.

asymmetrical power must be shown off

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William Lewis  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:25:47am

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🎃

“But I’m perfect and can tell you what you can and can’t do.” Is more like it.

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William Lewis  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:28:32am

re: #48 Decatur Deb

Yesterday my team of 3 volunteers and I went eyeball-to-eyeball with1000 college students. Today is a light class schedule, so fewer of us will give fewer of them the chance to register to vote. In terms of registrations and student awareness the results are “mixed”. A few of these kids will be voting when I’m 50 years dead, so it’s a good action. It’s a thousand year war.

Now this accomplished something unlike whining about if a lizard uses Twitter or Facebook. Thank you.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:31:04am

re: #90 DangerMan

asymmetrical power must be shown off

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Jay C  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:35:23am

re: #88 DangerMan

rich innocent people really dont need pardons

And the rich guilty ones usually get off anyway.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:37:14am

Wake up, see Chuck Woolery trending on Twitter and checking…is he dead?…nope, the guy who had a one hit wonder is still making an ass of himself…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:38:09am

re: #85 Rightwingconspirator

Watching the news this morning. Not sorry Epstein offed himself.

Pretty disturbing that a Police Union can say it’s wrong to fire a cop for using a forbidden chokehold that directly results in death. I will always be struck by that video of the police in each others way so Michael Garner died instead of getting cuffed and taken in.

Is there no accountability acceptable?

What amazes me is among white America for years, it was socially acceptable to rant about the cops but the second black activists like Deray, Shaun King, & others began speaking out, zomg blue lives matter. Having a stressful job doesn’t justify what happened to Eric Garner and other people.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:38:47am

re: #95 Joe Bacon 🌹

Wake up, see Chuck Woolery trending on Twitter and checking…is he dead?…nope, the guy who had a one hit wonder is still making an ass of himself…

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:46:01am

re: #75 GlutenFreeJesus

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Dinesh wrote “The Enemy at Home” claiming that the left was responsible for 9/11, a feeling shared by Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. They all expressed kinship with conservative Muslim values — in effect, they all seem supportive of the Western concept of sharia law.

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DangerMan  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:54:41am

re: #94 Jay C

And the rich guilty ones usually get off anyway.

all rich people are innocent, right? /s

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 20, 2019 • 7:58:02am

Trump continues to decline in popularity. He is now 12 pts underwater according to 538, his worse rating in months. projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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DangerMan  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:00:41am

re: #69 DangerMan

lets forget the white house is trying to
- get the fed to cut interest rates by 1 whole point
- and to bring back quantitative easing
- while everyone who can get within a mile of a microphone is saying “the fundamentals of the economy are strong”

here’s my question:

can the economy be strong, say right now and there also be real good indicators that a recession is looming?

oh yeah, i left out they want to cut the payroll tax
at least yesterday they did
then immediately started walking it back

let no one forget
reducing your withholding now will likely cost you on 4/15 when you have to give it back

still why would you need to do any of this stuff if the economy is in great shape?
makes you go ‘hmmmmm’

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:01:11am

re: #99 DangerMan

all rich people are innocent, right? /s

I read that conservatism is the philosophy that in groups are protected by the law but not bound by it, while out groups are bound by the law but not protected by it. Hence “open carry” which allows whites to swagger around with assault rifles, which will get any black man who tried it killed (or black boy with a toy gun).

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gocart mozart  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:02:35am

re: #20 Targetpractice

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DangerMan  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:02:38am

re: #102 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I read that conservatism is the philosophy that in groups are protected by the law but not bound by it, while out groups are bound by the law but not protected by it. Hence “open carry” which allows whites to swagger around with assault rifles, which will get any black man who tried it killed (or black boy with a toy gun).

or a phone, or nothing at all….

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makeitstop  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:03:55am

re: #95 Joe Bacon 🌹

Chuck Woolery sang in a duo called The Avant-Garde who were in the psychedelic pop genre. The other half of the duo was Elkin “Bubba” Fowler. They signed to Columbia Records and achieved a Top 40 hit with “Naturally Stoned” in 1968, bringing the duo one-hit wonder status.

I remember that song. Really, really lame.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:04:27am
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Belafon  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:07:43am

re: #103 gocart mozart

Hey, Chuck, blacks aren’t idiots. We’re not holding onto them by calling other whites racist.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:23:17am

re: #103 gocart mozart

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What a pathetic idiot.

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makeitstop  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:24:59am

Welp, today I have reached my retirement age. Took long enough.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:25:34am
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SteelPH  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:25:38am

re: #109 makeitstop

Welp, today I have reached my retirement age. Took long enough.

Happy birthday!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:26:00am

Conservatives: Racism isn’t real, the left makes it up.

Also conservatives: Whites are the most racially oppressed group in the country.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:26:44am

re: #105 makeitstop

I remember that song. Really, really lame.

Understatement of the year!

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Jay C  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:27:19am

re: #109 makeitstop

Welp, today I have reached my retirement age. Took long enough.

Mazel Tov!

So this means you’ll be having more time to spend on LGF…?

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makeitstop  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:28:08am

re: #113 Joe Bacon 🌹

So Chuck are you still Naturally Stoned

More like naturally stupid.

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makeitstop  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:30:18am

re: #114 Jay C

Mazel Tov!

So this means you’ll be having more time to spend on LGF…?

Thank you! I’m pretty much here all the time anyway. :)

I’m planning on going 60% retired, holding on to my music clients and a couple of corporates. I’ve been spending money on my demo studio all summer, and the plan is to take 2-3 days a week and devote it to writing and recording my masterpiece.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:32:02am

re: #109 makeitstop

Welp, today I have reached my retirement age. Took long enough.

Happy Birthday dude.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:32:13am

re: #103 gocart mozart

Woolery seems to be handling life well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:33:40am

re: #103 gocart mozart

RACISM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE

Here he does have a point, as race is only a construct. It is at best descriptive. And racism is simply about maintaining the superiority of one group over another, using the concept of “race” to distinguish between the groups.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:37:45am

re: #109 makeitstop

Happy Birthday!! Congratulations on joining us senior citizens!

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:45:47am

On the Twitter-Facebook discussion: I’m not on Twitter but a girl friend with ovarian cancer does engage on that platform because it provides invaluable support to those struggling with this disease. I imagine that that this is similar for others struggling with serious ailments. Once a medium is free and open to all regardless of wealth (instead of being very restricted as television was in its infancy), it faces onslaught by bad actors. No one has yet figured out how to best address this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:51:17am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:51:51am

Another topic: Most of us here have expressed various levels of disenchantment with the New York Times, but let’s acknowledge that few widely available publications have the resources or interest in creating something like the 1619 project. Flawed messenger that it may be over the years, the paper still provides an invaluable service. Print media can offer more in-depth coverage than is available through the newer technologies.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:52:30am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:52:58am

re: #123 Hecuba’s daughter

Another topic: Most of us here have expressed various levels of disenchantment with the New York Times, but let’s acknowledge that few widely available publications have the resources or interest in creating something like the 1619 project. Flawed messenger that it may be over the years, the paper still provides an invaluable service. Print media can offer more in-depth coverage than is available through the newer technologies.

There was a time when a reputation was an essential part of a Newspaper’s brand. Now it is all scoops and sensation, substance comes at the bottom of the list.

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wrenchwench  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:53:25am

re: #109 makeitstop

Welp, today I have reached my retirement age. Took long enough.

I’m glad you made it. Keep going!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:58:22am

moron is upset

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Belafon  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:59:06am

re: #124 Patricia Kayden

I have a non-colleged educated brother, and like plenty of others, he’s got a huge chip on his shoulder and thinks he’s owed something for existing. Trump has told them they deserve it and will get it if he’s in charge.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:59:43am

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sorry, I don’t buy Rep. Tlaib’s tears. I have watched her violence, craziness and, most importantly, WORDS, for far too long. Now tears? She hates Israel and all Jewish people. She is an anti-Semite. She and her 3 friends are the new face of the Democrat Party. Live with it!

Disagreeing with Israeli government policy = hating all Jews

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Belafon  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:00:17am

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is upset

I mean, think of all the mass shootings that have been done in her name. //

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retired cynic  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:02:07am

One of Anymouse’s storms must have slipped the rails, and is running through here. Watching lightningmaps.org and darksky.net and radar and enjoying the smell of ozone in the morning.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:02:09am

re: #128 Belafon

I have a non-colleged educated brother, and like plenty of others, he’s got a huge chip on his shoulder and thinks he’s owed something for existing. Trump has told them they deserve it and will get it if he’s in charge.

Just like Shad Ladue in It Can’t Happen Here

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gocart mozart  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:04:29am
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Skip Intro  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:04:46am

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is upset

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Trump is pure evil.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:09:28am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:13:08am
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makeitstop  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:15:33am

re: #128 Belafon

I have a non-colleged educated brother, and like plenty of others, he’s got a huge chip on his shoulder and thinks he’s owed something for existing. Trump has told them they deserve it and will get it if he’s in charge.

But after Trump being in charge for nearly three years, they still haven’t gotten what they’re owed.

How long does it take for these guys to take a damn hint?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:16:49am

re: #128 Belafon

I have a non-colleged educated brother, and like plenty of others, he’s got a huge chip on his shoulder and thinks he’s owed something for existing. Trump has told them they deserve it and will get it if he’s in charge.

He believes he is not getting what he deserves because “those people” are getting it, and Trump is going to take it back for him.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:18:11am

re: #133 gocart mozart

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Andrew Sullivan has always been a White Supremacist. That was made abundantly clear when he championed Charles Murray and The Bell Curve. Don’t forget how he went into a racist rant against Malcolm Nance. He’s just your typical sneering Tory Queen who should have been deported years ago.

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Belafon  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:18:18am

re: #137 makeitstop

But after Trump being in charge for nearly three years, they still haven’t gotten what they’re owed.

How long does it take for these guys to take a damn hint?

My brother’s 47.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:20:29am

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is upset

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I said this yesterday & it’s even more true today.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:20:33am

Trump is pissed off that a lot of the media is reporting on a coming recession based on, you know, ACTUAL ECONOMIC DATA.

Sorry, Donnie, your “alternative facts” won’t save you this time!

Also: He’s REALLY trying to get Tlaib hurt or killed.

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Mike Lamb  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:22:45am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Disagreeing with Israeli government policy = hating all Jews

But telling a roomful of Jewish-American folks that they’re mad because he doesn’t need their money or that Bibi is “their” prime minister, or putting an image of Clinton over a pile of cash with a star of David is all perfectly kosher.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:24:29am
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Ming5000  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:24:35am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:26:59am

Her violence? Says the guy who encourages violence at his rallies.

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gocart mozart  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:28:51am
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DangerMan  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:30:42am

re: #137 makeitstop

But after Trump being in charge for nearly three years, they still haven’t gotten what they’re owed.

How long does it take for these guys to take a damn hint?

4 more years?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:30:56am

re: #147 gocart mozart

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McNaughton and Garrison would have loved drawing Stalin.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:31:22am

re: #147 gocart mozart

“This mcnaughton is a perfect example of how devoted trump supporters have constructed a trump who bears no resemblance to the one who sits in the oval office.”

That’s pretty much how a Cult of Personality works. See also: Kim family, North Korea.

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DangerMan  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:31:23am

re: #142 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump is pissed off that a lot of the media is reporting on a coming recession based on, you know, ACTUAL ECONOMIC DATA.

Sorry, Donnie, your “alternative facts” won’t save you this time!

Also: He’s REALLY trying to get Tlaib hurt or killed.

he’s running into reality here and with his poll numbers as well

no amount of spin is going to stop either one

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:31:45am

Maybe it’s time for the FBI to pay this guy a little friendly visit.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:32:36am

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HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:32:38am

re: #152 The Pie Overlord!

Maybe it’s time for the FBI to pay this guy a little friendly visit.

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Yes they should.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:34:01am

re: #150 Eclectic Cyborg

“This mcnaughton is a perfect example of how devoted trump supporters have constructed a trump who bears no resemblance to the one who sits in the oval office.”

That’s pretty much how a Cult of Personality works. See also: Kim family, North Korea.

Exactly

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:36:34am

re: #152 The Pie Overlord!

Maybe it’s time for the FBI to pay this guy a little friendly visit.

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Just imagine what would happen if Rev. Barber said that about Republicans—he would be indicted and locked up without bail!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:41:40am

re: #152 The Pie Overlord!

Maybe it’s time for the FBI to pay this guy a little friendly visit.

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I’m really afraid that Mark Taylor is going to do a mass shooting. Referred that tweet to the FBI.

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gocart mozart  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:42:00am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:43:51am

re: #152 The Pie Overlord!

Maybe it’s time for the FBI to pay this guy a little friendly visit haul this dangerous shithead’s sorry ass off to Gitmo.

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FTFY.

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gocart mozart  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:43:59am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:48:16am

re: #160 gocart mozart

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Susan’s a fraud. Look at her support of Edwards in 2008.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:49:36am

re: #139 Joe Bacon 🌹

Andrew Sullivan has always been a White Supremacist. That was made abundantly clear when he championed Charles Murray and The Bell Curve. Don’t forget how he went into a racist rant against Malcolm Nance. He’s just your typical sneering Tory Queen who should have been deported years ago.

Yet despite that, Sullivan was an enthusiastic supporter of Obama in December of 2007. He saw something in Obama that he thought would transcend the divides in this country; unfortunately he didn’t understand the depths of Republican depravity. I started reading him about that time and was impressed by his insights and his eventually realization that his views on Iraq were entirely wrong. Of course, I didn’t realize that he is also a misogynist. His racism reemerged after Obama left office.

Sully is an American citizen and so is entitled to the same rights and privileges as the rest of us, including expressing views that are totally misguided.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:50:38am

re: #160 gocart mozart

Ever time the ‘but’ clause appears in a sentence, everything after the but makes the sentence to be complete bullshit.

‘I’m not a racist, but…’ is the premier exemplar.

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DangerMan  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:50:46am

re: #158 gocart mozart

Trump Isn’t the One Dividing Us by Race
Opinion | Trump Isn’t the One Dividing Us by Race
He hardly mentions it, while his adversaries are obsessed with ‘whiteness’ and ‘white privilege.’

slave owners rarely complained about slavery

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:51:12am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:53:11am
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DangerMan  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:53:31am

re: #164 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Ever time the ‘but’ clause appears in a sentence, everything after the but makes the sentence to be complete bullshit.

‘I’m not a racist, but…’ is the premier exemplar.

HUGE round of

i cannot upding this enough.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:54:24am

re: #158 gocart mozart

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It’s what he says about minorities but the lily white WSJ knows that.

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DangerMan  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:54:47am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

For too long, America has been content with low-Earth orbit & missions focused on the Earth, instead of aiming for the stars. Under President @realDonaldTrump’s leadership, all of that is changing. After 2 1/2 years, I’m proud to report: America is leading in space once again!

hey mike,

who’s been defunding nasa?

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VaughnIAM  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:54:54am

re: #74 steve_davis

Former Presidents only have Secret Service protection if they want it.
It’s not a mandatory thing they have to agree to.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:55:56am

re: #158 gocart mozart

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Any WSJ opinion piece is trash and has always been trash even before Murdoch (except for the few times in the 1980’s when they had a token liberal). The news section isn’t terrible but editorials and commentary should be treated as garbage and ignored.

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gocart mozart  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:59:12am
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gocart mozart  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:15:10am
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Jay C  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:15:49am

re: #173 gocart mozart

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Does “E.S.” stand for “Extremely Stupid”??

Normally, I’d imagine that such an ill-composed, semiliterate threat-screed like that would be the work of somebody going out of their way to feign coming across as a crank/doofus/nutbar: unfortunately, it sounds all too real.

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gocart mozart  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:19:31am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:20:46am

re: #176 gocart mozart

I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic’s

And his hair was perfect!

- Warren Zevon, “Werewolves of London

Warren Zevon - Werewolves Of London (1978)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:21:07am

re: #178 gocart mozart

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McNaughton is beyond delusional.

We know that Trump couldn’t even draw stick figures.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:22:15am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:24:07am

re: #179 Dr Lizardo

- Warren Zevon, “Werewolves of London

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I will never forgive Kid Rock for co-opting this song for his stupid redneck summer remix.

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Belafon  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:25:33am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Think of all the things we can do if we ignore Republican’s gutting of various agencies.”

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Jay C  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:26:52am

re: #181 Barefoot Grin

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Jon McNaughton, I guess, wants to be remembered as the Norman Rockwell of the Trump Administration: too bad he’s probably only going to be its Ben Garrison in oils….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:30:32am
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:32:45am

re: #184 Jay C

Jon McNaughton, I guess, wants to be remembered as the Norman Rockwell of the Trump Administration: too bad he’s probably only going to be its Ben Garrison in oils….

Norman Rockwell HAD TALENT. Also he was a liberal. McNaughton is a hack with less talent than the North Korean artists who create the Kim posters… at least they pay attention to composition.

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gocart mozart  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:39:51am

He is talking about me but I don’t know how to respond to this lunatic

I don’t plan on reading “The Progressive Virus: Why You Can’t Permit it to Go Forward” by Anthony Napoleon amazon.com


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