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476 comments

1
Rightwingconspirator  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:08:11pm

That’s some sweet sounds after a long day.

2
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:08:21pm

The headline says: New Species of Leech Found Near Washington, DC

Based on the headline alone, my thought was that the new species name should be Trumpera narcissusiana .

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Citizen K  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:14:16pm

Responding to the CNN tweet linked in the last topic:

Of course, I don’t need to ask why they don’t do that. It’s because we don’t count as American to them.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:16:51pm

Showing how far over the edge the American religious right has gone… many appear to be full-in on Trump’s accusation about American Jews.

American Christian fundamentalists have a long history of anti-semitism, carrying on a long tradition of Christianity in general.

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Belafon  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:23:24pm

re: #3 Citizen K

re: #251 The Pie Overlord!

OFFS WHY ARE THEY STILL DOING THIS!!!!!

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Because they’re white people.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:25:51pm

Speaking of database breaches such as MyHeritage, there was a larger one more recently, the second-largest in history, from an E-mail verification service used by banks, financiers, Yahoo, and others.

It was discovered on Feb 25 of this year.

Exposed data across 763 million records included email address, name, gender, IP address, phone number and other personal information, Diachenko reports.

Breach of ‘Verifications.io’ Exposes 763 Million Records (goes to Bank Info Security)

Three days later:

(Updated) 2 Billion Unencrypted Records Leaked In Marketing Data Breach —What To Do Next (Forbes)

That’s two billion E-mail addresses.

You would be unsurprised to know the company that ran the verification service shut up shop and folks can’t be found only days after the initial breach was discovered.

I don’t do on-line banking, credit, or bill paying so that doesn’t affect me. My Yahoo address is only used for me to run my Yahoo group.

Firefox notes the specific info stolen was:

IP addresses, Phone numbers, Email addresses, Dates of birth
Additional information, including:
Employers, Genders, Geographic locations, Job titles, Names, Physical addresses

If you haven’t heard about this breach, it’s because corporations are not your friends. A bank doesn’t care who takes your money, whether it’s you or someone else. A credit card company can have you settle it in arbitration with their lawyers in Delaware, &c.

For this breach security people note you should immediately change passwords (especially on financial accounts), and be extra-careful for phishing schemes since personal information was also stolen.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:27:46pm

re: #3 Citizen K

Responding to the CNN tweet linked in the last topic:

Of course, I don’t need to ask why they don’t do that. It’s because we don’t count as American to them.

Yup. That’s why I was blocked by the Philadelphia Inquirer writer when he asked if there were more voter stories he could do and asked for suggestions. I suggested he come out to Trump country and interview those of us who voted for Hillary Clinton.

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mmmirele  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:29:45pm

My brother went off on a long-planned and well-deserved fishing trip in Colorado on Saturday. He is, at least according to the texts he’s sending me, having a great time.

While he’s gone, I’m staying at and working out of my mother’s house and keeping an eye on her. What that means in practice is doing the usual chores plus making sure she takes her pills. It also means that she sleeps all day long, wakes up at 8 pm to take her pills, and then is up most of the night, dropping off to sleep about 8 am in the morning.

I picked up and brought my entire home office here—two monitors, a docking station, keyboard, mouse, and laptop. I have a Cisco soft phone which is fine, but I completely hate the Bluetooth headset I was given. You have to hook it over an ear and it is not compatible with wearing glasses. My right ear hurts by the end of the day. Oh well, first world problems. I would like to get a headband headset to wear instead.

Now if I can just keep mom from yanking out the toilet handle until my brother comes home on Friday, life will be good.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:36:22pm

Here we go: Radar-indicated tornado on the ground south of Torrington, Wyo.
wunderground.com

That’s how our hailstorm the other day started.

The storm line seems to be moving east (though here the wind has been from the east for two days). It is also building southwest to the west of Cheyenne.

If it holds together, it’s going to be another rough night here.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:41:24pm

re: #3 Citizen K

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:45:59pm

Two more rotating supercells have formed (one north, one south) near the tornadic thunderstorm south of Torrington, Wyo.

All three are crossing US-85 at the same time, and are all moving towards Scott’s Bluff County, Nebraska.

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teleskiguy  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:56:03pm

Today is a significant milestone.

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retired cynic  Aug 20, 2019 • 8:56:57pm

re: #12 teleskiguy

cool!

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Dread Pirate  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:01:37pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:03:02pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:04:21pm

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:05:57pm

re: #12 teleskiguy

Today is a significant milestone.

I’m afraid I don’t get it. I am too oldz or out-of-touch or something.

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retired cynic  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:09:04pm

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I’m afraid I don’t get it. I am too oldz or out-of-touch or something.

I could have never figured it out myself, but 4/20/69, 69420

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retired cynic  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:10:42pm

And after the last triumphant hand of solitaire, it is off to bed!

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teleskiguy  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:11:25pm

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I’m afraid I don’t get it. I am too oldz or out-of-touch or something.

There are 69,420 days until 4/20 in the year 2069.

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teleskiguy  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:12:37pm

420. 69. Get it!?!?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:12:58pm

Weather radio is now issuing severe thunderstorm warnings for Scott’s Bluff, Dawes, Banner, Box Butte, Morrill, Garden, Sioux (Nebr), Goshen, Laramie (Wyo), until 11 PM MDT.

The line extends from Chadron to Cheyenne, but does not extend over my town (yet). This storm line is moving east, so it will eventually come over my town.

They are warning that people or animals caught outside in the hail could be severely injured or killed.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:13:49pm

re: #21 teleskiguy

the unaccounted-for 20 is fucking with me tho

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:14:23pm

re: #20 teleskiguy

There are 69,420 days until 4/20 in the year 2069.

re: #21 teleskiguy

420. 69. Get it!?!?

Thanks. If I’m still alive then (I’d be 108 years old), I’ll take that under consideration. /s

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William Lewis  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:18:25pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

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New Coltrane album out too. I’m like you for that one.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:18:59pm

The tornadic storm which was south of Torrington, Wyo. is now twenty minutes from Scottsbluff, Nebr.

The radar map looks like a giant thunderstorm two hundred miles in size.

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teleskiguy  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:20:50pm

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹🎃

EEK! Just looked at the radar, you’re gonna get clobbered soon. Stay safe!

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teleskiguy  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:22:21pm

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I wouldn’t worry about tornadoes with this complex of storms, it’s the hail and straight line winds. EEK! Stay safe, brother.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:26:15pm

I saw this today when I was in Scottsbluff getting my windscreen replaced.

The Historic Midwest Theater’s signature marquee falls victim to latest round of hail storms

kneb.com

The Midwest Theater is on the National Register of Historic Places.

Until the hailstorm the other day ago, it looked like the photo at Wikipedia.
en.wikipedia.org

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:32:03pm

Checked out Twitter one last time and now see that Larry King is trending…nope he ain’t dead…just headed for Divorce #7…

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:34:04pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

I wouldn’t worry about tornadoes with this complex of storms, it’s the hail and straight line winds. EEK! Stay safe, brother.

Most of the storm complex has moved into Nebraska. More cells are growing along the front of it as it moves east.

Scottsbluff is getting trampled now. Cheyenne dodged a bullet. Alliance and Bridgeport are in the path (and we’re just beyond Bridgeport).

The radio hasn’t gone off in at least ten minutes, so yay?

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teleskiguy  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:37:04pm

I think I’m correct.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:40:14pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

I think I’m correct.

LOL. You’re state capital is so famous effigies of it are served in every restaurant in western Nebraska. /s

Our state capital is known for a famous building toy made out of small rolled pieces of stained wood.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:43:00pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:46:06pm

Several years ago, I rolled over retirement plan assets from my previous job into IRA accounts at Morgan Stanley, that were held primarily in equity mutual funds. A few days before the 2016 election, I contacted my Morgan Stanley guy to ask him what he thought would happen if Trump won since I was concerned they would take a major hit, and his response was their experts predicted at least 10-15% correction. Of course, that didn’t happen and the Obama market continued on its merry way.

The economists who tell us what Brexit likely means or the ultimate effects of Trump’s ridiculous tariffs are all guessing. I certainly love Krugman — but again, it’s all speculation — we will have to wait and see if a recession awaits us, a collapse of the global economy, or if the US economy continues limping along, with low unemployment. Last night, a friend expressed her extreme displeasure with the MSNBC and CNN reports on signs of possible recession— that they are overstating the evidence and damaging their credibility in process.

Expert predictions of long term — or even short term - consequences are often not particularly reliable.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:50:51pm

Thread, eight tweets, with maps and satellite pictures.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:54:59pm

The weather radio just popped off again.

The previous severe thunderstorm warning area has been tripled in size. It now includes every town in my county other than mine. (We are the easternmost town, near the Garden County line.)

Warnings have been extended to include Interstate 80 from mile marker 0 to 59, and Kimball and Cheyenne Counties.

More of the storms indicated as hailstorms (squares) are being indicated as rotating thunderstorms (diamonds). The latter have the potential to produce tornadoes, but also dangerous hail.

wunderground.com

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Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2019 • 9:58:10pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

I think I’m correct.

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What food is my state known for? Depends on where you are in the state.

Out west, you’re more likely to hear that Virginia is known for peanuts and Smithfield ham. Here in the east, it’s almost always gonna be blue crab, though some would swear by the oysters as well.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:00:46pm

re: #35 Hecuba’s daughter

I think they all just use a wizard’s hat to pull out economic predictions. I think if I did that, I would be at least as accurate.

In good news, I won $12 in the lotto. That paid for my gas.

My car is due for service in ten days (my speedometer won’t let me forget that), so we’re planning a trip to Denver for it’s regular annual/10,000 mile service. (Since we haven’t driven it 10,000 miles this year, it’s an annual service. Since most of our driving is on unpaved roads and such, even if we don’t drive it much it still needs things like filters changed. Because of the dust, the interior air conditioner filter, which is normally changed every 50,000 miles, is changed every 10,000 miles for us.)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:01:38pm

re: #38 Targetpractice

What food is my state known for? Depends on where you are in the state.

Out west, you’re more likely to hear that Virginia is known for peanuts and Smithfield ham. Here in the east, it’s almost always gonna be blue crab, though some would swear by the oysters as well.

I mean really, if someone had to guess Nebraska, the first guess probably wouldn’t be pineapples.

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teleskiguy  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:02:53pm

re: #35 Hecuba’s daughter

September 1929, STOCK MARKET INVINCIBLE! BUY BUY BUY!

November 1929, PENCILS FOR SALE

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Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:05:03pm

re: #40 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I mean really, if someone had to guess Nebraska, the first guess probably wouldn’t be pineapples.

It actually rather surprised me the first time I heard people talking about Virginia peanuts like it was some sort of delicacy. I’ve lived most of my life over in Hampton Roads, so when people talk food it’s usually local seafood of some variety. But the first time I took a road trip to see family back in Kentucky, it seemed like every rest stop west of Richmond had cans of peanuts proudly identifying themselves as coming from Virginia.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:07:42pm

re: #42 Targetpractice

It actually rather surprised me the first time I heard people talking about Virginia peanuts like it was some sort of delicacy. I’ve lived most of my life over in Hampton Roads, so when people talk food it’s usually local seafood of some variety. But the first time I took a road trip to see family back in Kentucky, it seemed like every rest stop west of Richmond had cans of peanuts proudly identifying themselves as coming from Virginia.

I thought that was unusual as well.

When I lived on the oceanfront in Virginia Beach, it was hard not to find crabs or oysters or whatnot.

Go inland though and it’s peanuts everywhere. I guess crabs and oysters can’t get through the Hampton Roads, Downtown, or Midtown Tunnels. /s

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Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:10:11pm

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I thought that was unusual as well.

When I lived on the oceanfront in Virginia Beach, it was hard not to find crabs or oysters or whatnot.

Go inland though and it’s peanuts everywhere. I guess crabs and oysters can’t get through the Hampton Roads, Downtown, or Midtown Tunnels. /s

I think I just arrived in VA Beach at the wrong time in my life: Too old to have had Virginia history drilled into my head since infancy, too young to appreciate it when I’d go on those school trips that happened in middle and high school. Hell, I didn’t even make it to Colonial Williamsburg until this past May and I’ve lived in VB since ‘95.

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:11:47pm

re: #42 Targetpractice

It actually rather surprised me the first time I heard people talking about Virginia peanuts like it was some sort of delicacy. I’ve lived most of my life over in Hampton Roads, so when people talk food it’s usually local seafood of some variety. But the first time I took a road trip to see family back in Kentucky, it seemed like every rest stop west of Richmond had cans of peanuts proudly identifying themselves as coming from Virginia.

We’re the peanuts from Wakefield?

Every school or church field trip to Richmond or Washington in the seventies and eighties, the chartered bus had to stop off for a meal at this diner/store/souvenir shop in Wakefield chock full of locally grown peanuts.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:13:31pm

re: #44 Targetpractice

I think I just arrived in VA Beach at the wrong time in my life: Too old to have had Virginia history drilled into my head since infancy, too young to appreciate it when I’d go on those school trips that happened in middle and high school. Hell, I didn’t even make it to Colonial Williamsburg until this past May and I’ve lived in VB since ‘95.

Really? I made a point of going to Williamsburg, Yorktown, and Jamestown while I was there, along with a number of Civil War battlefields. (I never really lived anywhere something historic happened, and Virginia has historic stuff everywhere you turn.)

I even went to the trouble of finding out the historical context of Witchduck Road in Virginia Beach and Quarantine Road in Norfolk. (I had a lot of free time.)

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:15:06pm

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I thought that was unusual as well.

When I lived on the oceanfront in Virginia Beach, it was hard not to find crabs or oysters or whatnot.

Go inland though and it’s peanuts everywhere. I guess crabs and oysters can’t get through the Hampton Roads, Downtown, or Midtown Tunnels. /s

When I was growing up, traffic had a hard time getting through the Downtown, Midtown, and Hampton Roads tunnels. Of course, that was when the Downtown and Midtown tunnels were single tubes.

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Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:15:48pm

re: #45 A Three Hour Tour

We’re the peanuts from Wakefield?

Every school or church field trip to Richmond or Washington in the seventies and eighties, the chartered bus had to stop off for a meal at this diner/store/souvenir shop in Wakefield chock full of locally grown peanuts.

Certainly seemed like every can I ran into proclaimed to be from Wakefield.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:18:06pm

Third smiting in two weeks (move the map a little bit so the left is exposed).

Lightning is obliterating the west half of my county.

lightningmaps.org;

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Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:21:05pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Really? I made a point of going to Williamsburg, Yorktown, and Jamestown while I was there, along with a number of Civil War battlefields. (I never really lived anywhere something historic happened, and Virginia has historic stuff everywhere you turn.)

I even went to the trouble of finding out the historical context of Witchduck Road in Virginia Beach and Quarantine Road in Norfolk. (I had a lot of free time.)

I’ve been to Jamestown, but that was a good long while ago. Most of the ventures my family made when I was younger were to museums, particularly science museums since that was the sort of thing I loved as a kid. But when you grow up in a military family, particularly when one parent or the other is out to sea for six months at a stretch, just taking a trip to the mall can be a treat to a kid. Then I was a college student for a few years out of high school so I barely had time between that and work to do much. And I left college just in time for the bottom to fall out of the job market, so I just now reached a point where I can afford to even consider paying the entry fees at places like Colonial Williamsburg.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:24:05pm

re:

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:25:29pm

Well, that’s weird. My comment isn’t showing.

Here it is again:

What’s the old saw about economists having successfully predicted five of the last three recessions?

Regarding Brexit and its potential economic impact, yes it is speculation at this stage. That having been said, a “no-deal Brexit”, a scenario where the UK crashes out of the EU without a withdrawal agreement having been legislated, would almost certainly cause serious problems for the British economy.

But exactly just how serious those problems would be really is anyone’s guess - simply because this is all so unprecedented and there’s no past examples we can look to in order to come up with a prediction model.

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:26:51pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

I’ve been to Jamestown, but that was a good long while ago. Most of the ventures my family made when I was younger were to museums, particularly science museums since that was the sort of thing I loved as a kid. But when you grow up in a military family, particularly when one parent or the other is out to sea for six months at a stretch, just taking a trip to the mall can be a treat to a kid. Then I was a college student for a few years out of high school so I barely had time between that and work to do much. And I left college just in time for the bottom to fall out of the job market, so I just now reached a point where I can afford to even consider paying the entry fees at places like Colonial Williamsburg.

We didn’t get to go to Colonial Williamsburg and Yorktown until a ninth grade field trip. Jamestown was a reliable third and fourth grade destination, and we ran into Governor Godwin on a fifth grade field trip to Richmond.

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Belafon  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:30:14pm

re: #52 Dr Lizardo

Well, that’s weird. My comment isn’t showing.

Here it is again:

If I suddenly decided to take a $10k/yr job, it would totally devastate my family because my obligations aren’t going to suddenly go away.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:31:38pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

I’ve been to Jamestown, but that was a good long while ago. Most of the ventures my family made when I was younger were to museums, particularly science museums since that was the sort of thing I loved as a kid. But when you grow up in a military family, particularly when one parent or the other is out to sea for six months at a stretch, just taking a trip to the mall can be a treat to a kid. Then I was a college student for a few years out of high school so I barely had time between that and work to do much. And I left college just in time for the bottom to fall out of the job market, so I just now reached a point where I can afford to even consider paying the entry fees at places like Colonial Williamsburg.

When I was first stationed at NAS Oceana, my first shop had a person who grew up in Virginia Beach stationed there. (He always complained about “Join the Navy! See the world! I was really looking for something beyond First Colonial Road.”)

I hooked up with him to find out what would be good things to tour in Virginia while I was stationed there.

During that time, I also got to go to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington (the only time I’ve been), for the obvious reason of finding my father’s name on The Wall.

That place in the middle of Washington is eerily quiet. Despite a major avenue near it, it seems no noise penetrates the area around the monument (or maybe I was just so lost in thought I didn’t hear it).

navy.togetherweserved.com (father’s shadowbox at Navy Together We Served, including photos—I need to create one for my mother as well)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:36:46pm

Thunderstorm warning for Scott’s Bluff County has been dropped, along with most of Banner.

Flood warnings are up for Scottsbluff.

Scott’s Bluff County is being obliterated by lightning. On the lighting map it looks like every acre’s been hit or is being hit.

The storm front has moved into my county. Supercells are moving in all sorts of crazy directions. Bayard is being smote without pity right now, and Bridgeport is surrounded by thunderstorms.

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Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:37:03pm

re: #52 Dr Lizardo

Well, that’s weird. My comment isn’t showing.

Here it is again:

There’s certainly no precedent for Brexit, but one can make an educated guess. And it’s notable that a lot of those guessing it will be beneficial or at least non-disruptive for the UK…are the ones who have their hands in the biggest cookie jars.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:43:06pm

Weather radio again …

Severe thunderstorm warning for Box Butte, Cheyenne, Morrill, Kimball, from Panorama Point to Alliance.

Eighty mile-per-hour straight-line winds with flying debris and tennis-ball size hail will kill anyone caught outside. Severe property damage is expected.

Dammit I just called the roofer today to inspect my new roof from the last hailstorm.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:44:11pm

re: #57 Targetpractice

A lot of those who are most aggressively pushing for a no-deal Brexit crash-and-burn stand to profit handsomely from any potential chaos.

It’s straight-up disaster capitalism.

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Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:47:39pm

re: #59 Dr Lizardo

A lot of those who are most aggressively pushing for a no-deal Brexit crash-and-burn stand to profit handsomely from any potential chaos.

It’s straight-up disaster capitalism.

Ayep. And it’s pretty much a given that the ones holding Boris’ leash have some vested interest in shorting the market and the pound, so the odds that he backs out of the death dive he’s put the UK into are next to zero. What remains to be seen right now is if Corbyn keeps to his threat to put forward a “no confidence” vote in September.

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Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:51:35pm

re: #53 A Three Hour Tour

We didn’t get to go to Colonial Williamsburg and Yorktown until a ninth grade field trip. Jamestown was a reliable third and fourth grade destination, and we ran into Governor Godwin on a fifth grade field trip to Richmond.

Think I went to Jamestown in sixth or seventh grade, while the Colonial Williamsburg trip here seemed to be more of a trip for elementary students. Of course, I’ve never been afraid to admit that my long-term memory has more holes than a block of swiss. I did go on a trip to the courthouse in high school during my US/VA Gov class. And it seemed like we made a trip to the VB aquarium every other year in science class.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:54:38pm

Weather radio: Severe thunderstorm warning has been extended over the eastern portion of my county. We are about to get smitten.

wunderground.com
Here comes the lightning.
lightningmaps.org;

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 10:58:55pm

We’re starting to get hail. Yay.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 11:01:38pm

Top. Women.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 11:04:50pm

Lightning strike in town. Hail battering my south window (the one I’m next to).

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Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2019 • 11:09:53pm

One of the things I’ve learned working in a hotel is that guests from outside the state are always amazed when I tell them that VB (and really, Hampton Roads in general) is not a traditional county as they think of them. The whole of what the state considers “Virginia Beach” is really a conglomeration of small unincorporated towns that came together and decided to declare themselves a “city” for the purposes of avoiding annexation by neighboring “cities.” Hell, even today, most of what is considered part of the “city” is swamps and farms, because we dare not let Norfolk lay claim to any of it.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 11:15:31pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

One of the things I’ve learned working in a hotel is that guests from outside the state are always amazed when I tell them that VB (and really, Hampton Roads in general) is not a traditional county as they think of them. The whole of what the state considers “Virginia Beach” is really a conglomeration of small unincorporated towns that came together and decided to declare themselves a “city” for the purposes of avoiding annexation by neighboring “cities.” Hell, even today, most of what is considered part of the “city” is swamps and farms, because we dare not let Norfolk lay claim to any of it.

When I was there, they still had the so-called Green Line, below which you could not intensively develop, to preserve the agricultural character of the former Princess Anne County.

When my mother was stationed at NAS Norfolk, Va Beach was a dinky little town of about five thousand. She came to visit me while I was stationed there and couldn’t believe what had happened.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 20, 2019 • 11:19:34pm

re: #60 Targetpractice

Ayep. And it’s pretty much a given that the ones holding Boris’ leash have some vested interest in shorting the market and the pound, so the odds that he backs out of the death dive he’s put the UK into are next to zero. What remains to be seen right now is if Corbyn keeps to his threat to put forward a “no confidence” vote in September.

Honestly, the only way to really stop Brexit is to revoke Article 50.

I really don’t know if there’s any political will whatsoever to do that; it’s basically the nuclear option when it comes to stopping Brexit. And pushing the button - so to speak - certainly doesn’t end the whole Brexit argument either as reactionaries and extremists like Nigel Farage would stand to gain enormously from that. His new Brexit Party would have disgruntled Tories (and other Brexiteers) flocking to his banner in that scenario.

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Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2019 • 11:21:43pm

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹🎃

When I was there, they still had the so-called Green Line, below which you could not intensively develop, to preserve the agricultural character of the former Princess Anne County.

When my mother was stationed at NAS Norfolk, Va Beach was a dinky little town of about five thousand. She came to visit me while I was stationed there and couldn’t believe what had happened.

The city’s sort of at a crossroads right now, as while the suburbs are starting to butt up against the Green Line, the city can’t really grow up like a lot of urban centers without drawing threats from the Navy to close down Oceana for good. And while the city council may say publicly that they think we can survive off tourism, privately everybody knows that if the Navy goes this place will be a ghost town within a decade. So while they want desperately to keep letting the developers build without constraint, they’re quickly running out of room to let them do so without violating the standing agreement with the rural folks.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 11:22:42pm

Weather radio: Severe thunderstorm warning for the county to my east (Garden). The storm line is right over my town.

We’re getting a lightning strike every couple seconds.
lightningmaps.org;

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Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2019 • 11:25:01pm

re: #68 Dr Lizardo

Honestly, the only way to really stop Brexit is to revoke Article 50.

I really don’t know if there’s any political will whatsoever to do that; it’s basically the nuclear option when it comes to stopping Brexit. And pushing the button - so to speak - certainly doesn’t end the whole Brexit argument either as reactionaries and extremists like Nigel Farage would stand to gain enormously from that. His new Brexit Party would have disgruntled Tories (and other Brexiteers) flocking to his banner in that scenario.

My understanding is that Corbyn’s plan is thus:

- Put forward “no-confidence” vote and have the current gov’t dissolved
- Install a temporary “caretaker gov’t” that will call for general elections
- Have Labour run in that election on promises of holding a second referendum
- Hold the second referendum
- Profit!

What’s that you say? What options will there be in that second referendum? Corbyn won’t say, but I can’t imagine it will be any clearer than the first one.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 11:27:28pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

The city’s sort of at a crossroads right now, as while the suburbs are starting to butt up against the Green Line, the city can’t really grow up like a lot of urban centers without drawing threats from the Navy to close down Oceana for good. And while the city council may say publicly that they think we can survive off tourism, privately everybody knows that if the Navy goes this place will be a ghost town within a decade. So while they want desperately to keep letting the developers build without constraint, they’re quickly running out of room to let them do so without violating the standing agreement with the rural folks.

Right after they built Lynnhaven Mall (the first Saturday it was open), we had an F-14 pilot who had a catastrophic mechanical failure in his aircraft on take-off. Rather than eject and maybe have the aircraft crash beyond the base, he intentionally drove it into the ground on the base to avoid massive loss-of-life at the mall just beyond the west boundary of the base.

The Navy raised holy hell about Muhammad Ali wanting to build a massive hotel on the east side of the base in the resort district. They came to agreement that Ali would build the hotel only 1/3 the original planned height.

Oceana’s days are numbered if Va Beach continues to allow development around the air station. I don’t think the Navy is going to want to move out to Fentress in the Dismal Swamp (plus NALF Fentress would require a whole lot of upgrades to equal NAS Oceana).

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 20, 2019 • 11:31:30pm

re: #64 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Top. Women.

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Ambassadorships have always been for sale. Nothing new here.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 11:32:21pm

Most of the severe thunderstorm warning has been dropped. It still stretches in an arc from southeast of Alliance, through the eastern part of my county including my town, and south to include Cheyenne County (including Sidney) to the Colorado state line.

The storms should be past us in another twenty minutes or so.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 11:36:13pm

Weather radio again (it’s getting a real workout):

Particularly dangerous thunderstorms are in the area, with tornado-like speeds. Debris has been observed carried by the wind, and persons outside will be severely injured or killed.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 20, 2019 • 11:36:48pm

re: #71 Targetpractice

My understanding is that Corbyn’s plan is thus:

- Put forward “no-confidence” vote and have the current gov’t dissolved
- Install a temporary “caretaker gov’t” that will call for general elections
- Have Labour run in that election on promises of holding a second referendum
- Hold the second referendum
- Profit!

What’s that you say? What options will there be in that second referendum? Corbyn won’t say, but I can’t imagine it will be any clearer than the first one.

Yeah, fucking Corbyn. He’s a long-standing left Euroskeptic himself and his strategy of deliberate ambiguity on Brexit is, quite frankly, infuriating.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 11:43:03pm

4” of rain has fallen in Scottsbluff, with another 1” expected. A flood advisory has been put up for the North Platte River from Scottsbluff to Llewellyn (we’re in the middle of that).

Like “lie,” the media seems to have a problem with “raped” (or at least “allegedly raped”).

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Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2019 • 11:43:29pm

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Right after they built Lynnhaven Mall (the first Saturday it was open), we had an F-14 pilot who had a catastrophic mechanical failure in his aircraft on take-off. Rather than eject and maybe have the aircraft crash beyond the base, he intentionally drove it into the ground on the base to avoid massive loss-of-life at the mall just beyond the west boundary of the base.

The Navy raised holy hell about Muhammad Ali wanting to build a massive hotel on the east side of the base in the resort district. They came to agreement that Ali would build the hotel only 1/3 the original planned height.

Oceana’s days are numbered if Va Beach continues to allow development around the air station. I don’t think the Navy is going to want to move out to Fentress in the Dismal Swamp (plus NALF Fentress would require a whole lot of upgrades to equal NAS Oceana).

It’s pretty clear these days that VB’s relationship with the Navy is more a marriage of convenience these days than any real dedication. The Navy would like to move out, but it doesn’t have the money or the first clue where would go. And the city hates the restrictions that come with the Navy being here but realizes it has absolutely no economy without defense dollars filling the coffers. It doesn’t help the latter that every time they make a bid for a major manufacturer or distributor to set up shop here, they realize the only place left to build is past the Green Line.

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Targetpractice  Aug 20, 2019 • 11:45:21pm

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹🎃

4” of rain has fallen in Scottsbluff, with another 1” expected. A flood advisory has been put up for the North Platte River from Scottsbluff to Llewellyn (we’re in the middle of that).

Like “lie,” the media seems to have a problem with “raped” (or at least “allegedly raped”).

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Considering not only the number of media execs implicated by #MeToo, but the long list of people who were in some way connected to Epstein, it’s not surprising that they’re trying to avoid talking frankly about what sort of monster the man was.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 11:46:31pm

re: #78 Targetpractice

It’s pretty clear these days that VB’s relationship with the Navy is more a marriage of convenience these days than any real dedication. The Navy would like to move out, but it doesn’t have the money or the first clue where would go. And the city hates the restrictions that come with the Navy being here but realizes it has absolutely no economy without defense dollars filling the coffers. It doesn’t help the latter that every time they make a bid for a major manufacturer or distributor to set up shop here, they realize the only place left to build is past the Green Line.

The Green Line’s days are numbered as well. $$$ can buy any ordinance you need.

Geez, the thunder is shaking my floor.

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teleskiguy  Aug 20, 2019 • 11:47:50pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 11:50:40pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 20, 2019 • 11:55:12pm

Storms are exploding south out of Nebraska, and Sterling and Julesburg are about to get creamed by a whole complex of severe storms.

Here the storms have moved into the next county east, but we’re still getting a ton of lightning. We got about 3” of rain here. The street between me and the church is under water.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:06:31am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:17:54am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:21:11am

On the American ambassador to Denmark:

What Hatch Act?

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Targetpractice  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:21:38am

re: #85 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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Like most of Donny’s snap decisions, she probably found out about it through Twitter or the news long before someone in the White House deigned to send her so much as a text message.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:24:22am

re: #85 Anymouse 🌹🎃

That story is all over the news here in Czech Republic. I put on the old scuba gear and took a dive into the insanity that is the Novinky website (lots of pro-Trumpists there) and to my pleasant surprise, the general consensus that’s emerged is that Trump’s gone straight out of his mind. Lots of comments along the lines of “Trump’s gone insane” or “he’s clearly mentally handicapped” along with a good deal of speculation that Trump is suffering from dementia or has had some manner of psychotic break.

Heh.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:25:23am

re: #87 Targetpractice

Like most of Donny’s snap decisions, she probably found out about it through Twitter or the news long before someone in the White House deigned to send her so much as a text message.

Yup.

Trump has this annoying habit of wanting to talk directly to leaders of other countries. That might work for a company, but that’s not how nations run. He probably forgot he has an ambassador there, and Pompeo is too much of a lick-spittle to tell him (even though the ambassador works for him).

On the other hand, she probably doesn’t care, because she’s making a ton of bank off the taxpayers with her totally unqualified grift. Being a conservative pays very well sometimes.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:33:20am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:37:46am

A radar-indicated tornado is about to move into my county from Banner County. It will enter in a mostly-rural area. (I’ve driven that road through there as it goes from Bridgeport to La Grange, Wyo. through a whole lot of empty rangeland; unless you’re cattle you’re probably safe, but it bears watching if it stays together long enough to cross my county.)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:39:18am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:42:54am

Now if he would just insult Christians, that would drive away all the white Catholics and mainline Protestants from supporting him. I’m pretty sure Trump isn’t even that dumb.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:44:40am

re: #4 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Showing how far over the edge the American religious right has gone… many appear to be full-in on Trump’s accusation about American Jews.

American Christian fundamentalists have a long history of anti-semitism, carrying on a long tradition of Christianity in general.

Remember, their “support” for Israel has nothing to do with any respect or recognition of Jews and Judaism, they just need a resurgent Israel in order to precipitate Armageddon and kick-start their Apocalyptic End Time prophecies.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:44:52am

Name what was miserable about them. I’ll bet the only thing you can come up with is Ni*CLANG.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:48:13am

re: #20 teleskiguy

There are 69,420 days until 4/20 in the year 2069.

except that my google tells me there are only 18,140 days…

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:52:45am

re: #94 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember, their “support” for Israel has nothing to do with any respect or recognition of Jews and Judaism, they just need a resurgent Israel in order to precipitate Armageddon and kick-start their Apocalyptic End Time prophecies.

I just note that mainline Protestants and white Catholics also broke for Trump, not just evangelical Christians.

If Trump laid down a real insult on Christian voters, he would drive away a whole bunch of the Christian vote. The fundies would stay with him because they want power, but they are not enough of the electorate without the other Christian faiths which also broke for him.

Interestingly, Mormons were the only Christian faith which took a big swing toward Democrats in the 2016 election (they still went for Trump but only by a slim margin). It would seem they can better identify an amoral asshole than any other Christian faith.

The only Christian groups which went for Hillary Clinton over Trump were African-American evangelicals and Hispanic Catholics.

According to Pew, every religious denomination broke more for Trump than they did for Romney, except the aforementioned groups.

The only people Democrats increased their share was with Jews, other faiths, and atheists. That’s not enough to overcome all Christian faith groups breaking for Trump over Clinton. What put her over the top on popular votes were the minority (and no) faith groups.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:54:44am

re: #95 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Name what was miserable about them. I’ll bet the only thing you can come up with is Ni*CLANG.

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That’s exactly why the wingnuts were so miserable during Obama’s two terms: They had to turn on the TV every day and see a ni-CLANG as President.

It broke their minds. And Trump is their backlash.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:57:04am

Shamelessly stolen:
“I’m not a racist, but…”
shall henceforth be known as “klansplaining.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:59:28am

re: #99 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

+50

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:59:37am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:01:51am

re: #101 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Denmark was one of our first coalition partners to fight ISIS. In 2014, its Special Forces deployed to western Iraq with us when few others would dare go there. Our coalition would not have succeeded without them. Valued part[n]er in arms, founding member of NATO, & vital ally.

Trump wants to leave a Mark on American History, one that will bear his name and perpetuate his legacy, like The Wall, The Space Force or American Greenland.

They confounded his plans to achieve greatness, so any other useful things they did for us no longer count.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:05:02am

The storms which just entered our county have dropped below the limits of a severe thunderstorm.

The National Weather Service warns that remaining storms could still have sixty mph wind gusts and blow around debris brought down by the earlier storms, so being outside might still be dangerous. We are under a thunderstorm watch now until 5AM MDT.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:06:17am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump wants to leave a Mark on American History, one that will bear his name and perpetuate his legacy, like The Wall, The Space Force or American Greenland.

They confounded his plans to achieve greatness, so any other useful things they did for us no longer count.

Just rename the Caribbean Sea after him. That might make him care about Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands since they are there.

After he’s out of office we can name it back.

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:06:32am

re: #66 Targetpractice

One of the things I’ve learned working in a hotel is that guests from outside the state are always amazed when I tell them that VB (and really, Hampton Roads in general) is not a traditional county as they think of them. The whole of what the state considers “Virginia Beach” is really a conglomeration of small unincorporated towns that came together and decided to declare themselves a “city” for the purposes of avoiding annexation by neighboring “cities.” Hell, even today, most of what is considered part of the “city” is swamps and farms, because we dare not let Norfolk lay claim to any of it.

Pungo! (*hums opening of “Green Eyed Lady*)

I’m from Chesapeake (Western Branch borough), incorporated in 1963 from Norfolk County joining the city of South Norfolk to prevent annexation from the city of Portsmouth.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:09:44am

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Just rename the Caribbean Sea after him. That might make him care about Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands since they are there.

After he’s out of office we can name it back.

The Trumpian Sea.

I was thinking the other day that if Chinese President Xi Jinping wants to end the ongoing trade war on terms highly favorable to China, what he should do is invite Trump to China’s October 1st shinding. They can have a big review of the PLA, with the tanks and the nuclear missiles and whatnot and Trump can stand there on podium with him and take the salute.

Trump would give Xi anything he wants. Hell, he’d throw Taiwan under the bus at that point - and probably throw in the West Coast lock, stock and barrel.

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Targetpractice  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:10:52am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump wants to leave a Mark on American History, one that will bear his name and perpetuate his legacy, like The Wall, The Space Force or American Greenland.

They confounded his plans to achieve greatness, so any other useful things they did for us no longer count.

I’ve said before that Trump’s entire mindset is that of a CEO of his own private company, the king of his own private fiefdom, and incidents like these really show that. He’s a reputation for storming away from the table when it looks like the other side isn’t going to give in to his demands or (conversely) isn’t taking him seriously. And it has worked numerous times in the past, because the worry that he might walk away totally has scared others into giving into his demands. What he totally fails to realize is that he’s not offering to buy land or property from others for the purpose of building one of gaudy towers, he’s openly suggesting buying up an entire island and the people upon it. And that shit is simply not done, certainly not since the Age of Imperialism came to crashing end after WWII.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:12:16am

re: #104 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Just rename the Caribbean Sea after him. That might make him care about Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands since they are there.

After he’s out of office we can name it back.

He does not want that Shithole Sea, he wants something owned by White People

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:13:53am

re: #105 A Three Hour Tour

Pungo! (*hums opening of “Green Eyed Lady*)

I’m from Chesapeake (Western Branch borough), incorporated in 1963 from Norfolk County joining the city of South Norfolk to prevent annexation from the city of Portsmouth.

Also, the Witch of Pungo (goes to the Virginia History Museum).

Grace Sherwood was the only person convicted of witchcraft in Virginia.

On July 10, 1706, a forty-six-year-old Princess Anne County woman named Grace Sherwood faced an unusual legal procedure. Her hands were tied and she was about to be thrown from a boat into a river as a test to see if she was a witch. For several years neighbors talked of how the midwife, healer, and widowed mother of three had ruined crops, killed livestock, and conjured up storms. Then in January of 1706 Luke Hill formally accused Sherwood of witchcraft. The case passed from the county court to the attorney general of Virginia without any judgment. Finally, authorities in Princess Anne County ordered that the accused be “ducked” in consecrated water to determine her guilt or innocence. By this ordeal, if she sank she would be declared innocent, but if she floated her identity as a witch would be proven. A spot in the Lynnhaven River, off what is today known as Witchduck Point, was chosen, and Grace Sherwood was bound and thrown from a boat. She managed to untie herself and rise to the surface, proving to those present that she was a witch. As punishment for her crime, Grace Sherwood spent seven years in jail. After her release the so-called “witch of Pungo” returned to her home and lived peacefully until her death around the age of eighty.

In 2006, Gov. Tim Kaine gave her a posthumous pardon three hundred years to the day for her conviction of witchcraft.

He sent a letter of the pardon to Mayor Meyera Obendorf of Virginia Beach, which she read aloud during a reënactment of Ms. Sherwood’s witch ducking.

(Ms. Sherwood is the reason Witchduck Road is named the way it is. That is the alleged route she was taken to be ducked for her trial as a witch.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:16:14am

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Also, the Witch of Pungo (goes to the Virginia History Museum).

Grace Sherwood was the only person convicted of witchcraft in Virginia.

In 2006, Gov. Tim Kaine gave her a posthumous pardon three hundred years to the day for her conviction of witchcraft.

He sent a letter of the pardon to Mayor Meyera Obendorf of Virginia Beach, which she read aloud during a reënactment of Ms. Sherwood’s witch ducking.

(Ms. Sherwood is the reason Witchduck Road is named the way it is. That is the alleged route she was taken to be ducked for her trial as a witch.)

Did she weigh more than a duck?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:19:08am

re: #110 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Does she weigh more than a duck?

Well, according to the trial documents, she was tied thumbs to feet. She was able to slip the bonds and surface in the river, and at the same time a downpour allegedly started as she uttered a curse at the county officials, proving she was a witch.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:20:41am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Well, according to the trial documents, she was tied thumbs to feet. She was able to slip the bonds and surface in the river, and at the same time a downpour allegedly started as she uttered a curse at the county officials, proving she was a witch.

Who was promptly turned into a newt…

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:23:19am

You’re bananas, alright.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:25:59am

re: #113 Anymouse 🌹🎃

your veiled attempt to smear President Trump with a H*tler reference comes off as fear-mongering, the reason he said that was because Democrats side with Islam, totally, while Islam wants Jews dead. Please refute this if I am wrong.

Disagreeing with the Israeli Government =/= Anti-Semitism

but that is what Trump is telling us

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:28:56am

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Disagreeing with the Israeli Government =/= Anti-Semitism

but that is what Trump is telling us

That argument - that disagreeing with the Israeli government’s policies is anti-Semitic - is also pushed pretty heavily by Netanyahu and Likud (among others).

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:30:27am

Conservatives are using drawings taken from the Epilepsy Foundation of what an epileptic seizure looks like to make memes trolling liberals about how they feel about Trump.

Real classy people conservatives are.

Fortunately no one here is on Twitter (for them) because people in my town have seen me have a seizure. i would skewer someone in my town in a microsecond if they did something like use one of those memes.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:35:57am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:37:48am

Real funny, Ted. You are supporting a crazy person.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:52:17am

The gun shop owner in my town has Parkinson’s Disease, and it’s been getting steadily worse.

He’s decided he can no longer run his shop. As such, he has now made his shop’s hours “appointment only” as of a couple days ago, and is selling all his inventory of rifles, ammunition, bows, and other inventory at clearance prices.

His family set up a Facebook page for his shop (he doesn’t do computers) with details if anyone is interested. (Mr. Mitchell has a federal firearms license and can legally ship to other places.)

Seeing Mr. Mitchell’s decline it seems he doesn’t have much longer to live. He ran against me to unseat me from the village board in 2014 and lost by four votes to me. (He’d previously served on the board but was defeated in the 2012 election.) Later, when we had a vacancy on the board and needed to fill it, I suggested he fill the seat, as he’d run for a seat when others did not. He was appointed to that seat and served until the 2016 election. He and I are about as far apart on politics as you can be, but he is a decent guy who cares about the town and had long experience on the board before I got here.

facebook.com

(Mitchell’s Guns and Ammo Facebook page, run by his relatives in another town. Telephone numbers for Mr. Mitchell’s shop are available on the Facebook page, along with photographs of some of the things he has on clearance. He does not sell firearms like AR-15’s or massive magazines; he sells hunting rifles and shotguns.)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:01:58am
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Dread Pirate  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:11:06am

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

except that my google tells me there are only 18,140 days…

September 13, 2209 is 69,420 days from 8/20/2019

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Dread Pirate  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:14:21am

re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Who was promptly turned into a newt…

He got better.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:23:04am

As the suit against a Twitter cow continues:

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Dread Pirate  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:23:38am

You know who isn’t patrolling the gulf? Saudi Arabia. (The US is operating from the Indian Ocean, where it’s safe.) Put allies assets in danger, that’s the American/Saudi way.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:24:49am

In movie news, looks like there’s going to be a supercut of It - done by director Andy Muschietti. Cool.

Stephen King’s It is a hefty book. There’s so much story, in fact, that both adaptations - the 1990 miniseries, and the 2017 and 2019 movies - had to split the material into two parts. But any reader of the book can tell you that It works best as one big epic story. Thankfully, it sounds like It and It: Chapter Two director Andy Muschietti agrees - and he’s cutting together an It supercut containing both films. Here’s hoping we actually get to see this supercut, and that it doesn’t go the way of Quentin Tarantino’s never-released Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Affair.

slashfilm.com

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:26:40am

The hashtag is running near the top of Twitter right now.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:32:47am

Farrakhan has never been a Democrat, and endorsed Trump for the election, dipship.

You need to turn off FOX and other right wing drugs and back away slowly from your television set, lest you hurt yourself.

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Scout  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:33:22am

This is, IMHO, a really funny photo. Warning, it is a bit gross.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:34:08am

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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Farrakhan has never been a Democrat, and endorsed Trump for the election, dipship.

You need to turn off FOX and other right wing drugs and back away slowly from your television set, lest you hurt yourself.

I’ve never met any democrat that gave a shit about Farrakhan outside his calypso career.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:36:46am

re: #129 Dread Pirate

I’ve never met any democrat that gave a shit about Farrakhan outside his calypso career.

Matter of doctrine: Dems like blacks and hate Israel, but they are backed by Jewish money and are really racists who want to keep blacks on the KKK plantation

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:40:47am

re: #131 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Matter of doctrine: Dems like blacks and hate Israel, but they are backed by Jewish money and are really racists who want to keep blacks on the KKK plantation

It’s amazing how so many Trump supporters on that hashtag #DisloyalToTrump are arguing “what he really meant was they are disloyal to [Jews, Israel, democracy, name something none of them agree on].

It’s like freakin’ religion.

I thought Donald Trump’s selling point was “he told it like it is?”

Any time that Trump says something openly racist, inconvenient, unhinged, or insane, they then have to Trumpsplain what he really meant.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:43:59am

twitter-trending.com

9 minutes ago
1) World-TT#SaveSpiderMan
2) #DisloyalToTrump
3) #SonyIsOverParty
4) World-TT#WednesdayWisdom
5) #AmazonRainforest

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:46:03am

Bulkshyte, Mr. Frum.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:55:31am

re: #134 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Bulkshyte, Mr. Frum.

Trump’s ego will be our demise.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:00:03am

re: #135 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump’s ego will be our demise.

Along with his religious cult members. People like David Frum.

The NRA board has seventy-six members. I’m not sure if five members resigning is unusual turnover or no. It might be perfectly normal.

That they are so close to the NRA’s recent embezzlement troubles is interesting, but I find it hard to believe they didn’t know this was going on before.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:03:00am

re: #136 Anymouse 🌹🎃

It seems like there’s an unusually high degree of instability right now in the NRA, most of it as a result of LaPierre’s shenanigans and apparent grifting.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:04:56am

re: #137 Dr Lizardo

It seems like there’s an unusually high degree of instability right now in the NRA, most of it as a result of LaPierre’s shenanigans and apparent grifting.

The NRA was a wealthy and powerful institution, bound to attack some serious manipulators and criminal minds to its highest levels.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:08:31am

Really? I imagine he could ask people in his own country about that who were alive at the time and are now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:10:51am

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Netanyahu: Hitler didn’t want to exterminate the Jews

Of course not, it was just a slip-up. And besides, they made him do it by being so Jewish and dagger-in-the-back-stabby, etc…

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:12:02am

I’m off to bed. I’ll catch y’all later.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:19:15am

re: #140 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Of course not, it was just a slip-up. And besides, they made him do it by being so Jewish and dagger-in-the-back-stabby, etc…

I mean, hey, it could happen to anyone, amirite? You know, you just want to indulge in a little ethnic cleansing and the next thing you know, you’re building assembly line murder factories!

FFS. Bibi’s completely gone off the deep end.

Back later - gotta go pay some bills.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:20:45am

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I thought Donald Trump’s selling point was “he told it like it is?”.

He does tell it like it is; he is so incoherent that anyone can interpret what he says anyway they want, so they always hear what they want him to be saying.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:30:38am

re: #142 Dr Lizardo

I mean, hey, it could happen to anyone, amirite? You know, you just want to indulge in a little ethnic cleansing and the next thing you know, you’re building assembly line murder factories!

FFS. Bibi’s completely gone off the deep end.

Back later - gotta go pay some bills.

This is from four years ago. Though I haven’t seen anything from Nethanyu that indicates he changed his mind on this bastardizing of history. The Mufti was just one of many foreign leaders official or not that allied with Hitler. Bibi hates Muslims that much he’s willing to let Hitler off from the Holocaust and he also gives a pass to Christian leaders in and outside Germany who supported his ideology and genocide. Obviously not all Christians did, Dietrich Bonhoeffer comes to mind but not all Muslims did either and Nethanyu knows that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:36:04am

re: #144 HappyWarrior

I think that Nethanyahu’s polemic was more about demonizing the Mufti of Palestine (and by extension, all Palestinians, because you know how Jews just love the concept of collective guilt) than about letting Hitler off the hook by implying that Hitler got the idea of the Final Solution from listening to the Mufti.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:44:10am

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think that Nethanyahu’s polemic was more about demonizing the Mufti of Palestine (and by extension, all Palestinians, because you know how Jews just love the concept of collective guilt) than about letting Hitler off the hook by implying that Hitler got the idea of the Final Solution from listening to the Mufti.

True. Either way, he knows he’s distorting history for ideological reasons.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:57:32am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

True. Either way, he knows he’s distorting history for ideological reasons.

and there are plenty of gullible idjits out there ready to suck it up unquestioned

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Dave In Austin  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:11:24am
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:28:17am

re: #2 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The headline says: New Species of Leech Found Near Washington, DC

Based on the headline alone, my thought was that the new species name should be Trumpera narcissusiana .

Thanks Trump.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:30:33am

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹🎃

So Netanyahu is now playing into the hands of Holocaust deniers? Wow.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:32:58am

re: #150 Patricia Kayden

So Netanyahu is now playing into the hands of Holocaust deniers? Wow.

Was but probably still is. That’s from four years ago.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:41:06am

He shits.

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Archangelus  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:44:04am

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is. The article, and his speech, are from 2015, and it was discussed a LOT in Israel, naturally.
In essence, Netanyahu was basically arguing that Al-Husseini, (who sought to establish a large Arab state over several existing Arab states and allied with the Reich since “The Arabs are Germany’s natural friends because they have the same enemies… the English, the Jews, and the Communists”), may have heavily influenced the Final Solution, while touching on Husseini’s actions in general and his 1941 declaration on German-Arab cooperation primarily, which included the part stating:

Germany & Italy recognize the right of Arab countries to solve the question of the Jewish elements, which exist in Palestine and in the other Arab countries, as required by the national and ethnic (völkisch) interests of the Arabs, and as the Jewish question was solved in Germany and Italy.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:46:32am

re: #152 Dread Pirate

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He shits.

Wayne Allyn Root, a conspiracy nut who believes such things that Fields didn’t kill Heather Heyer and the Vegas mass shooting was done by Muslims. Christ.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:47:58am

Here’s my nightmare scenario of the next few years, even if the Democrats win in November: With the economy slowing, the Democrats win the WH in a landslide, expand their House majority, and even win a small majority in the Senate. We rejoice! Senate Democrats, looking forward to a new era of bipartisanship, retain the filibuster; McConnell chuckles. As the economy slips into recession in 2021, the Republicans demand steep domestic spending cuts to fight the alarmingly high budget deficit, and shut down the federal government, slowing the economy more. GOP approval drops, but after a compromise is reached which provides smaller domestic spending cuts and a stimulus package of big tax cuts for the rich and small ones for everyone else, GOP approval quickly rebounds while the Democrats shrink. The House passes legislation to address immigration, climate change, infrastructure, education, election reform and healthcare. It all dies in the Senate, as the Democratic majority helplessly explains that the Republican minority who control the Senate won’t let them do anything. The Democrats reinstate blue slips, and the judicial approval process slows to a crawl. With the economy stagnate and millions out of work, demoralized Democratic voters stay home in the 2022 midterms and the GOP regains control of both Houses of Congress. A Supreme Court Justice dies in early 2023, and McConnell vows to leave the seat vacant until 2025 to give the voters the chance to decide who will fill it, so the President’s nominee is ignored on the Hill, and absolutely no new federal judges are approved during the last two years of his term. Another federal government shutdown throws even more Americans out of work, and another compromise bill is eventually passed with even more domestic spending cuts combined with another big tax cut for the rich. In 2024 Kris Kobach is nominated by the GOP for President promising to put American workers first through mass deportations and wins the presidency with 45% of the vote as third party voting swells because the Democratic President’s term of office was an utter failure.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:48:28am

The King of Israel? WTF. I swear so much of this country would accept an absolute monarchy if they said the things they wanted.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:49:24am

re: #155 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Here’s my nightmare scenario of the next few years, even if the Democrats win in November: With the economy slowing, the Democrats win the WH in a landslide, expand their House majority, and even win a small majority in the Senate. We rejoice! Senate Democrats, looking forward to a new era of bipartisanship, retain the filibuster; McConnell chuckles. As the economy slips into recession in 2021, the Republicans demand steep domestic spending cuts to fight the alarmingly high budget deficit, and shut down the federal government, slowing the economy more. GOP approval drops, but after a compromise is reached which provides smaller domestic spending cuts and a stimulus package of big tax cuts for the rich and small ones for everyone else, GOP approval quickly rebounds while the Democrats shrink. The House passes legislation to address immigration, climate change, infrastructure, education, election reform and healthcare. It all dies in the Senate, as the Democratic majority helplessly explains that the Republican minority who control the Senate won’t let them do anything. The Democrats reinstate blue slips, and the judicial approval process slows to a crawl. With the economy stagnate and millions out of work, demoralized Democratic voters stay home in the 2022 midterms and the GOP regains control of both Houses of Congress. A Supreme Court Justice dies in early 2023, and McConnell vows to leave the seat vacant until 2025 to give the voters the chance to decide who will fill it, so the President’s nominee is ignored on the Hill, and absolutely no new federal judges are approved during the last two years of his term. Another federal government shutdown throws even more Americans out of work, and another compromise bill is eventually passed with even more domestic spending cuts combined with another big tax cut for the rich. In 2024 Kris Kobach is nominated by the GOP for President promising to put American workers first through mass deportations and wins the presidency with 45% of the vote as third party voting swells because the Democratic President’s term of office was an utter failure.

All plausible.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:54:43am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:58:56am

re: #158 Dread Pirate

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George Soros a Holocaust survivor who is still attacked for being Jewish knows a thing or two about Antisemitism.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 5:01:16am

They’re so pathetically Antisemitic they use it when they think they’re defending themselves against accusations of it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 5:01:26am

re: #157 HappyWarrior

All plausible.

Not just plausible, at this point all but inevitable.

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Archangelus  Aug 21, 2019 • 5:02:21am
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b.d.  Aug 21, 2019 • 5:02:33am

re: #152 Dread Pirate

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He shits.

The President of the United States has gone insane.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 5:03:11am

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not just plausible, at this point all but inevitable.

No I won’t accept that.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 5:03:26am

re: #163 b.d.

The President of the United States has gone insane.

He’s been.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 5:03:33am

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Unless the Democrats act boldly, which is the last thing I expect. Abolish the filibuster, admit at least D.C. and Puerto Rico as states and add new SCOUS seats.

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 5:06:33am

That recession were not having, isn’t coming, and is totally fake news?

Well….

Trump Officials Tell Donors Recession Will Be Short

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 21, 2019 • 5:08:12am

re: #167 DangerMan

So they’re admitting that the recession is real. Good to know.

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 5:12:07am

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 5:13:03am

re: #168 Patricia Kayden

So they’re admitting that the recession is real. Good to know.

That was since kudlow et al on Sunday
Give it one more day and they’ll be saying it’s over already

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 21, 2019 • 5:15:07am

re: #40 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I mean really, if someone had to guess Nebraska, the first guess probably wouldn’t be pineapples.

And then, in Nebraska, suddenly… pineapples.

Asdfmovie- suddenly pineapples

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 5:19:34am

President Trump called National Rifle Association CEO Wayne LaPierre to tell him that universal background checks for gun purchases are off the table, The Atlantic reports.

‘member this? Right after el paso/ohio

“Republicans and Democrats must come together and get strong background checks, perhaps marrying this legislation with desperately needed immigration reform

.”

Two weeks
Complete about face
Quelle surprise

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Citizen K  Aug 21, 2019 • 5:36:41am

re: #152 Dread Pirate

This kind of shit makes it clear that Netanyahu and Trump’s other Israeli allies don’t really care about protecting Jews, just their own power. Trump is out there openly pulling this blasphemous, anti-Semitic shit, and here they are barring Reps. Tliab and Omar because of how their language was misrepresented by the same asshole saying he’s been called the “King of Israel”.

It’s…holy fuck.

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mmmirele  Aug 21, 2019 • 5:43:41am

He’s the Antichrist, folks. I don’t claim to be a good Christian at all, but claiming to be “King of Israel” and the “second coming of God,” hello, that just rings all my old religious “this loser is the Antichrist” bells.

And the greatest irony is that his followers are primarily Evangelicals, who claim to be on the right track to God. I don’t think so.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 5:59:39am

re: #164 HappyWarrior

No I won’t accept that.

Unless the Democrats change their minds and abolish the filibuster if they win control of the Senate, the GOP will obstruct everything. At least a Democratic President can reverse Trump’s bad administrative policies. Until SCOTUS wipes out the regulatory state as violating the separation of powers.

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Citizen K  Aug 21, 2019 • 6:02:38am

Jeet Heer with the velvet backhand.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 6:07:48am

re: #175 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Unless the Democrats change their minds and abolish the filibuster if they win control of the Senate, the GOP will obstruct everything. At least a Democratic President can reverse Trump’s bad administrative policies. Until SCOTUS wipes out the regulatory state as violating the separation of powers.

I can only assume that is their long-term strategy. The GOP leadership is not made up of blind Trump-worshipers but rather out of hard-nosed, cynical power politicians.

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 6:12:14am

This is exactly why I was against the single climate change debate:

Too many debates WILL get people tired of the candidates, even if they don’t watch them.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 6:15:33am

Big news about the MCU: Spiderman is out.

vox.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 6:17:10am

re: #179 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Big news about the MCU: Spuderman is out.

vox.com

Supderman, Spuderman, does whatever a spudster can, mashes up in any size, catches thieves with French fries…

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 6:19:21am

re: #179 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Big news about the MCU: Spiderman is out.

vox.com

That’s a damn shame. I’ve enjoyed the MCU Spider-Man. Tom Holland is great as the character.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 21, 2019 • 6:23:10am

re: #178 Belafon

As long as the remaining Democratic candidates can use a senior-issue forum to hammer home how bad Trump has been, then I don’t see a downside. But such a debate really has to be about that - how Trump has hurt America and its seniors.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 6:26:14am

Wakes up, get dressed, log on to LGF

***WTFITS***

Serve me right for not having coffee first. Imma get coffee now.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 6:47:20am

Well I got coffee. Now what? Did I pause the thread?

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 6:49:07am

re: #179 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Big news about the MCU: Spiderman is out.

vox.com

I want to see Sony tell a third Spider-Man with Holland that doesn’t involve the MCU.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 6:51:15am

re: #185 Belafon

I want to see Sony tell a third Spider-Man with Holland that doesn’t involve the MCU.

I would guess a Spidey-Venom movie may be what they intend since Venom was big box office.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 21, 2019 • 6:54:37am

re: #185 Belafon

I want to see them NOT SCREW IT UP BY REBOOTING HIM AGAIN.
I want to see them NOT SCREW UP THE MCU.

Yes, you can get by without him in the MCU, however, he’s kind of tangled into it especially since most of it is based in NYC, and the MCU is tangled into him with Bubblebrain and Tony.

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 6:56:03am

re: #186 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I would guess a Spidey-Venom movie may be what they intend since Venom was big box office.

It will be interestring considering the way the end credits left Spider-man after Far From Home, and the only real resolution involves MCU characters.

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Citizen K  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:01:33am

re: #188 Belafon

It will be interestring considering the way the end credits left Spider-man after Far From Home, and the only real resolution involves MCU characters.

Yeah, that’s the thing. I honestly don’t see how they can do a Holland Spidey film removed from the MCU in any capacity. His version of Spidey was completely integrated into the MCU’s events.

I still imagine some kind of deal will be made out in the end, because I don’t see how they get by without yet another full Spidey reboot if the separation stays.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:02:45am

This is so utterly batshit.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:03:12am

You know, I was just thinking that the Trump administration’s decision to not vaccinate those currently being held in American concentration camps really reminded me of this scene from Years and Years:

Years and Years Episode 5 | The Erstwhile Sites

JFC, but Emma Thompson absolutely nails it.

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Citizen K  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:04:33am

re: #190 The Pie Overlord!

This is so utterly batshit.

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Didn’t this fucking mook promote Neo-Nazis? In any case…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:05:38am

re: #189 Citizen K

Yeah, that’s the thing. I honestly don’t see how they can do a Holland Spidey film removed from the MCU in any capacity. His version of Spidey was completely integrated into the MCU’s events.

I still imagine some kind of deal will be made out in the end, because I don’t see how they get by without yet another full Spidey reboot if the separation stays.

They can do a live action ‘Spider-Verse’ film. Whole alternate timeline

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jeffreyw  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:05:59am

Good morning!

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:07:27am

I am so depressed right now. The only thing that can help with that (other than Lexapro) is baking.

Cinnamon bread it is.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:15:30am

“Okay, okay. We’ll stop separating families and putting them in cages…they can stay in the cages together.”

These fucking people…


(USA TODAY) WASHINGTON -The Trump administration said Wednesday it was taking steps that would allow it to indefinitely detain undocumented children with their families while their immigration cases are pending.


The move, which Department of Homeland Security officials expect to be challenged in federal court, is an effort to end a 20-day limit on detaining children and families. The deadline grew out of a 1997 settlement of a federal class-action lawsuit, which administration officials said led to a boom in adults bringing along children when entering the United States illegally.

President Donald Trump tweeted a quote Wednesday from Brandon Judd, president of the National Border Patrol Council, who said the proposal “will effectively end Catch and Release and curb illegal entries.”

The effort to remove the cap on family detentions would keep families together, albeit in custody, rather than separating families by placing parents with Immigration and Customs Enforcement and children at facilities licensed by the Department of Health and Human Services. The administration’s proposed rule would allow it to license and monitor detention facilities where children could be held with their parents until their immigration cases are resolved, a process that can take months.

The move in the longstanding lawsuit settlement comes in a year when the conditions at DHS detention facilities have been widely criticized.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:18:26am

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

While the private contractors make $bank on the facilities and services. Lousy facilities, inadequate food and no vaccinations for the kids. What could go wrong?

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Citizen K  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:18:49am

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

“Okay, okay. We’ll stop separating families and putting them in cages…they can stay in the cages together.”

These fucking people…


(USA TODAY) WASHINGTON -The Trump administration said Wednesday it was taking steps that would allow it to indefinitely detain undocumented children with their families while their immigration cases are pending.


The move, which Department of Homeland Security officials expect to be challenged in federal court, is an effort to end a 20-day limit on detaining children and families. The deadline grew out of a 1997 settlement of a federal class-action lawsuit, which administration officials said led to a boom in adults bringing along children when entering the United States illegally.

President Donald Trump tweeted a quote Wednesday from Brandon Judd, president of the National Border Patrol Council, who said the proposal “will effectively end Catch and Release and curb illegal entries.”

The effort to remove the cap on family detentions would keep families together, albeit in custody, rather than separating families by placing parents with Immigration and Customs Enforcement and children at facilities licensed by the Department of Health and Human Services. The administration’s proposed rule would allow it to license and monitor detention facilities where children could be held with their parents until their immigration cases are resolved, a process that can take months.

The move in the longstanding lawsuit settlement comes in a year when the conditions at DHS detention facilities have been widely criticized.

….yep. Called it last night, as predictable as it was, I suppose. Even the kids must be treated as hardened evil crooks and sequestered, they’re all evil guilty invaders for all their dirty brownness trying to destroy pure White America.

This is a step or two away from just straight unambiguous genocide.

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Jay C  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:20:00am

re: #182 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

As long as the remaining Democratic candidates can use a senior-issue forum to hammer home how bad Trump has been, then I don’t see a downside. But such a debate really has to be about that - how Trump has hurt America and its seniors.

And - cynical as might sound - it probably would help the Democrats (and/or the Dem candidate) little, if at all. While the AARP is quite right about seniors voting in relatively large numbers, getting them to pull the lever/mark the box for a (D) is (IMO) going to be an uphill climb. No matter how much Trump Admin or GOP policies will hurt seniors, these are also the same demographic who consume Fox/Sinclair/RW propaganda in vast quantities: and who are easily convinced - often literally - that the Republicans are the Party Of God, and the Democrats are the Party of Satan. And changing that mindset - especially among the generality of “seniors” - is going to be hard. VERY hard.

It’s the fundamental difference between the two national Parties: Democrats appeal to voters’ self-interests: Republican appeal to their prejudices. And guess which approach usually wins…

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SteelPH  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:27:20am

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

This, combined with the refusal of flu vaccines, is likely a deliberate move to get them all killed via a flu epidemic.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:29:27am

re: #198 Citizen K

Look at their decision to not vaccinate those being held in these camps against influenza.

A bad strain of the flu - or some other viral outbreak - in such a tightly confined environment could easily lead to a significant death toll.

Bear in mind that Anne Frank wasn’t shot by some random SS Sturmmann, and she didn’t perish in a gas chamber; she died as the result of a typhus outbreak at Bergen-Belsen.

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William Lewis  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:29:55am

All right my internet service is working again. Now I’m fighting with billing to get credit for the week of outage and to get them to stop pushing DirectTV (I haven’t watched TV since the digital cut over in 2009).

Offering $25 or half a month’s bill. Good enough.

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Citizen K  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:32:18am

re: #201 Dr Lizardo

Look at their decision to not vaccinate those being held in these camps against influenza.

A bad strain of the flu - or some other viral outbreak - in such a tightly confined environment could easily lead to a significant death toll.

Bear in mind that Anne Frank wasn’t shot by some random SS Sturmmann, and she didn’t perish in a gas chamber; she died as the result of a typhus outbreak at Bergen-Belsen.

And they’ll likely use such a health crisis to pretend that the migrants themselves are the health crisis and use it as justification for open genocide.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:34:01am

re: #200 SteelPH

This, combined with the refusal of flu vaccines, is likely a deliberate move to get them all killed via a flu epidemic.

I had the same thought yesterday.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:34:45am

re: #202 William Lewis

All right my internet service is working again. Now I’m fighting with billing to get credit for the week of outage and to get them to stop pushing DirectTV (I haven’t watched TV since the digital cut over in 2009).

Offering $25 or half a month’s bill. Good enough.

If this is the company I’m thinking of, I’m pretty sure they are required to push DirecTV on every call now.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:37:04am

re: #190 The Pie Overlord!

This is so utterly batshit.

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Gaslighting assholes.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:38:50am

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

“Okay, okay. We’ll stop separating families and putting them in cages…they can stay in the cages together.”

These fucking people…


(USA TODAY) WASHINGTON -The Trump administration said Wednesday it was taking steps that would allow it to indefinitely detain undocumented children with their families while their immigration cases are pending.


The move, which Department of Homeland Security officials expect to be challenged in federal court, is an effort to end a 20-day limit on detaining children and families. The deadline grew out of a 1997 settlement of a federal class-action lawsuit, which administration officials said led to a boom in adults bringing along children when entering the United States illegally.

President Donald Trump tweeted a quote Wednesday from Brandon Judd, president of the National Border Patrol Council, who said the proposal “will effectively end Catch and Release and curb illegal entries.”

The effort to remove the cap on family detentions would keep families together, albeit in custody, rather than separating families by placing parents with Immigration and Customs Enforcement and children at facilities licensed by the Department of Health and Human Services. The administration’s proposed rule would allow it to license and monitor detention facilities where children could be held with their parents until their immigration cases are resolved, a process that can take months.

The move in the longstanding lawsuit settlement comes in a year when the conditions at DHS detention facilities have been widely criticized.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:39:47am

re: #203 Citizen K

And they’ll likely use such a health crisis to pretend that the migrants themselves are the health crisis and use it as justification for open genocide.

These assclowns don’t see it, but they’re potentially opening up a future of endless lawsuits against the US. Settlements in the billions of dollars.

My attitude against these dangerous morons is hardening rapidly. I’m thinking we really are going to need something along the lines of a Nuremberg Trial for crimes against humanity.

There will certainly be a great deal of screaming about “We need to forgive them and move on! Charity towards all and malice towards none!!”

No. Not this time.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:40:46am

re: #200 SteelPH

This, combined with the refusal of flu vaccines, is likely a deliberate move to get them all killed via a flu epidemic.

re: #203 Citizen K

And they’ll likely use such a health crisis to pretend that the migrants themselves are the health crisis and use it as justification for open genocide.

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Citizen K  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:41:15am

re: #208 Dr Lizardo

These assclowns don’t see it, but they’re potentially opening up a future of endless lawsuits against the US. Settlements in the billions of dollars.

My attitude against these dangerous morons is hardening rapidly. I’m thinking we really are going to need something along the lines of a Nuremberg Trial for crimes against humanity.

There will certainly be a great deal of screaming about “We need to forgive them and move on! Charity towards all and malice towards none!!”

No. Not this time.

I’d say we might need international intervention sooner rather than later, but it honestly feels like the international atmosphere is just as deep in the rolling right-wing fever as we are.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:41:53am

re: #208 Dr Lizardo

These assclowns don’t see it, but they’re potentially opening up a future of endless lawsuits against the US. Settlements in the billions of dollars.

My attitude against these dangerous morons is hardening rapidly. I’m thinking we really are going to need something along the lines of a Nuremberg Trial for crimes against humanity.

There will certainly be a great deal of screaming about “We need to forgive them and move on! Charity towards all and malice towards none!!”

No. Not this time.

The forgiveness in 1865 should have gone out the window after the Lincoln assassination conspiracy.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:43:34am

re: #210 Citizen K

We need to handle this ourselves. To serve as warning to any other would-be Adolf Eichmanns out there and to show the world that if this shit happens in the United States of America, we’re going to deal with it.

And it must be dealt with. Severely.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:47:26am
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Citizen K  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:47:33am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:51:22am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:52:15am

I know we’ve said this again and again, but can you imagine the outrage among evangelicals if Obama had proclaimed himself King of the Jews and the Second Coming of God?

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Citizen K  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:53:22am

re: #212 Dr Lizardo

We need to handle this ourselves. To serve as warning to any other would-be Adolf Eichmanns out there and to show the world that if this shit happens in the United States of America, we’re going to deal with it.

And it must be dealt with. Severely.

I’m not gonna lie, I’m not sure we will. I’m not sure we can. It feels like all the institutions we’re supposed to rely on to handle this, to fix this, have been subverted, possibly always were subverted, to ensure this shit persists, rather than gets fixed. That they’ve been engineered to protect and exalt Trumps rather than prevent them.

Not just our gov’t institutions, but our civil ones, like the media, the supposed arbiters of truth who have gone full in on normalizing the GOP and Trump while slamming their heels into the faces of anyone who dares criticize them from the left.

I feel like we’re hopelessly compromised as a country. I want 2020 to be a step back in the right direction. But then again, I hoped that with Obama too, believe that with Obama too, and saw it all torn down, stonewalled, and backslid in relative moments.

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:55:53am

I posted the story about the government withholding flu vaccines from the camps to Facebook with the lead “Coming to a camp near you: Death. And Anne Frank didn’t die from gassing but due to conditions at the camp.” That actually got a reaction from someone. I’ve got to answer the person, but if they’re going to go through with it, we’re going to need people to keep on top of the body counts and get those stories out.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:56:17am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:56:20am

re: #190 The Pie Overlord!

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Citizen K  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:56:59am
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:57:16am

re: #220 Joe Bacon 🌹

Let the Romans take care of him.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 7:59:57am

re: #216 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I know we’ve said this again and again, but can you imagine the outrage among evangelicals if Obama had proclaimed himself King of the Jews and the Second Coming of God?

Paul Ryan would have had an impeachment resolution on the floor as the first order of business.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:01:16am

re: #222 The Pie Overlord!

Let the Romans take care of him.

DQRI

Donaldus Queenenis Rex Iudaeorum

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Citizen K  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:01:59am

re: #216 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I know we’ve said this again and again, but can you imagine the outrage among evangelicals if Obama had proclaimed himself King of the Jews and the Second Coming of God?

re: #223 Joe Bacon 🌹

Paul Ryan would have had an impeachment resolution on the floor as the first order of business.

I mean….fair reminder that one of the most enduring attacks during the Obama years was that Dems “treated him like a Messiah”.

It’s projection. It’s always projection. It’s always been projection.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:02:50am

re: #225 Citizen K

I mean….fair reminder that one of the most enduring attacks during the Obama years was that Dems “treated him like a Messiah”.

It’s projection. It’s always projection. It’s always been projection.

Yes, building him up as a rhetorical “Messiah” so they could show that he has feet of clay.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:03:44am

re: #224 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

DQRI

Donaldus Queenenis Rex Iudaeorum

I’ve often thought of Trump as one of the lesser - and crazier - wannabe Roman emperor types. A sawdust Caesar.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:03:58am

Meanwhile our Corporate Controlled Conservative Media continue with their rehabilitation of Sean Spicer.

Sean Spicer may have fallen from grace, but he’s landed among the stars.

Since leaving the White House podium, Spicer has struggled to land a gig that sticks. He was ridiculed when he made light of lying to the American people during the Emmys, didn’t land the coveted Fox News role he reportedly wanted, wrote a book that clearly wasn’t fact-checked and gave an inebriated interview during the State of the Union this year.

But the former White House press secretary has found an active pursuit: he’s set to be a contestant on ABC’s “Dancing with the Stars,” according to “Good Morning America.” Spicer will play the role of the “star” in the show that pairs B-list (at best) celebrities with professional dancers.

talkingpointsmemo.com

Hmmm, wonder what music they’ll play when Sean does the Funky Chicken…

Benny Hill Theme

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:03:59am

I had an thought about all of the acting department heads under Trump. Normally, the reason an action taken by a department takes a couple of years to overturn by the next administration is that they are legally required to investigate the consequences. But acting directors didn’t really have the authority to make changes. Thus, the next admin, when a head is confirmed can immediately end some of the stuff Trump has allowed to happen.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:04:00am

re: #223 Joe Bacon 🌹

Paul Ryan would have had an impeachment resolution on the floor as the first order of business.

If Obama had been as erratic and deranged as Trump, his own Cabinet would’ve removed him via the 25th Amendment.

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mmmirele  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:04:26am

*drily* “Antichrist” is trending.

I never fucking thought we’d have a president who the Evangelicals loved so very much and who takes advantage of their idolatry to declare himself “king of Israel” and the “second coming of God.”

And there isn’t a peep out of these asshats. Evangelicalism deserves to be figuratively burned to ashes.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:05:41am

re: #228 Joe Bacon 🌹

Meanwhile our Corporate Controlled Conservative Media continue with their rehabilitation of Sean Spicer.

Sean Spicer may have fallen from grace, but he’s landed among the stars.

Since leaving the White House podium, Spicer has struggled to land a gig that sticks. He was ridiculed when he made light of lying to the American people during the Emmys, didn’t land the coveted Fox News role he reportedly wanted, wrote a book that clearly wasn’t fact-checked and gave an inebriated interview during the State of the Union this year.

But the former White House press secretary has found an active pursuit: he’s set to be a contestant on ABC’s “Dancing with the Stars,” according to “Good Morning America.” Spicer will play the role of the “star” in the show that pairs B-list (at best) celebrities with professional dancers.

talkingpointsmemo.com

Hmmm, wonder what music they’ll play when Sean does the Funky Chicken…

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The final act of careers in free fall.

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:06:48am

re: #216 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I know we’ve said this again and again, but can you imagine the outrage among evangelicals if Obama anyone had proclaimed himself King of the Jews and the Second Coming of God?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:06:48am

Well this Jew knows that Metamucillini ain’t king of the Jews.

And he’s not even the “prince of wails”.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:08:19am

re: #232 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Dancing With The Stars is where the moldering zombie of a Z-list star’s career goes to humiliate itself for the final time.

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lawhawk  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:08:55am

re: #138 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The NRA was a wealthy and powerful institution, bound to attack some serious manipulators and criminal minds to its highest levels.

It’s funded in large part by the manufacturers who benefit from easy access and sales of guns, ammo, and accessories. They have zero interest in limiting access or background checks or anything that might improve public safety or public health.

It’s about sales of guns. Period.

Oh, and the Russians are also funding the organization, because they know how highly correlated NRA lobbying and fundraising is to being a GOPer.

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:09:13am

a couple of weeks ago we were discussing words and phrases we hate

in case it wasnt already on the list, i’m adding “no problem” and “perfect”

when i order in a restaurant, neither of those replies makes any sense

when i hand someone my credit card to buy something “perfect” isnt what i want to hear

oh, and get off my lawn (not that is not on the list. i’m saying that now. get off my damn lawn)

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Citizen K  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:10:35am

re: #232 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The final act of careers in free fall.

re: #235 Dr Lizardo

Dancing With The Stars is where the moldering zombie of a Z-list star’s career goes to humiliate itself for the final time.

Don’t be too sure.

Rick Perry went from Governor, to Dance With The Stars, to being in charge of our nukes.

Never, ever, underestimate the GOP capacity for failing upward.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:12:16am

re: #238 Citizen K

Never, ever, underestimate the GOP capacity for failing upward.

Never underestimate DWTS own capacity for rehabilitating has-beens.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:12:49am

re: #216 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I know we’ve said this again and again, but can you imagine the outrage among evangelicals if Obama had proclaimed himself King of the Jews and the Second Coming of God?

It would depend if they were a Democrat or Republican.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:13:50am

Insert [Joker.And.Here.We.Go.gif] here:

The U.S. economy had 501,000 fewer jobs in March 2019 than previously reported, government revisions show, suggesting that hiring was not as strong in the past year as it seemed. Hiring was weaker in retail, restaurants and hotels. The annual revision is much larger than is typically the case. The preliminary revision in 2018, for example, was just 43,000. Every year the Bureau of Labor Statistics updates its figures based on unemployment data that nearly all employers are required to file with the states. The current revision is one of the largest ever.

marketwatch.com

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lawhawk  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:16:00am

I go away for a few days, and Trump claims he wants to buy Greenland (it’s not for sale), the recession talk gets more urgent, Trump tweets that he’s accusing Jews of dual loyalty , and that Jews also think he’s the Second Coming?

Unfu…

Nope.. unfuckingbelievable.

This is where we are. We have a fucknut in the WH who spews nonsense to deflect from other utter nonsense and is an anti-Semitic bigot who is using every utterance to further his agenda because you can’t keep up with the firehose of insanity that Trumpworld spews daily.

Media outlets continue to peddle straight stories as though every statement is serious - instead of spending a few moments to consider what all of this is:

Every statement is a deflection, dodge, obfuscation, or lie. Every last one.

What we know to be true about Trump: he’s a racist and misogynist. Those are his everlasting guiding principles. If you want to know why his immigration policy is what it is, it’s the racism.

Want to know why Trump mentions Jews and Israel? Because he’s deflecting and projecting.

Trump’s an anti-Semitic bigot who affirmatively quote tweets the conspiracy nut Wayne Allen Root, who is about as fringe-y as they get.

Trump doesn’t even understand what Root said and how offensive it is to Jews (because we don’t have a Second Coming - there is only G-d), only that it’s something Trump wanted to hear.

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lawhawk  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:19:35am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:20:55am

re: #242 lawhawk

Hell, look at my #241 - a downward revision of half a million jobs?!

Seems to me, and I confess to not being an expert in such matters, that the Trump administration is cooking the books. That’s one hell of a revision.

And that really shouldn’t come as surprise to anyone. Trump’s entire business model is based on cooking the books. He’s a fucking crook, a petty chisler - and he has been his entire life.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:21:33am

I had to hear it from the asshole’s mouth…

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lawhawk  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:24:46am

re: #244 Dr Lizardo

Hell, look at my #241 - a downward revision of half a million jobs?!

Seems to me, and I confess to not being an expert in such matters, that the Trump administration is cooking the books. That’s one hell of a revision.

And that really shouldn’t come as surprise to anyone. Trump’s entire business model is based on cooking the books. He’s a fucking crook, a petty chisler - and he has been his entire life.

I don’t think it’s a cooking the books situation, but that the revisors found more evidence of a soft economy than they bargained for. This comes after other downward revisions last month too.

The BLS is always revising data to get the most comprehensive and accurate picture. It also trails the immediate job numbers they post (u3-u6, etc.) and the ADP payroll numbers.

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:25:13am

re: #245 Joe Bacon 🌹

I had to hear it from the asshole’s mouth…

I would like to thank Wayne Allen Root. I’m an atheist, but ask everyone about that statement and you can easily separate the true Christians and Jews from those who only worship power.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:25:36am

re: #242 lawhawk

Assumes Trump knows anything about Judaism or Christianity.

He thinks Corinthians is an architectural term.

He just knows it as a type of red leather seat cover

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:25:43am

Garbage Hobbit goes all “Both Sides”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:27:03am

I’m going to say this as simply as I possibly can:

NO AMERICAN OF ANY ETHNICITY IS REQUIRED TO PLEDGE LOYALTY TO ANY NATION, INDIVIDUAL OR ORGANIZATION IF THEY DO NOT WANT TO.

Period.

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Citizen K  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:27:04am

re: #244 Dr Lizardo

Hell, look at my #241 - a downward revision of half a million jobs?!

Seems to me, and I confess to not being an expert in such matters, that the Trump administration is cooking the books. That’s one hell of a revision.

And that really shouldn’t come as surprise to anyone. Trump’s entire business model is based on cooking the books. He’s a fucking crook, a petty chisler - and he has been his entire life.

The only thing he seems to be good at is making sure everyone else is left holding the bag and that he gets away scott free to spend someone else’s money. To wit, he’s the perfect Republican President.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:28:00am

re: #244 Dr Lizardo

Hell, look at my #241 - a downward revision of half a million jobs?!

Seems to me, and I confess to not being an expert in such matters, that the Trump administration is cooking the books. That’s one hell of a revision.

And that really shouldn’t come as surprise to anyone. Trump’s entire business model is based on cooking the books. He’s a fucking crook, a petty chisler - and he has been his entire life.

No, I’m confident that the public servants at the BLS are doing their jobs correctly; if the books were being cooked, we wouldn’t have found out about the downward revision. Revisions are what happens when the data starts catching up to a changing economy; and this is an ominous sign.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:28:23am

Just a reminder of how off the rails Wacko Wayne is!

Root was a leading proponent of the conspiracy theory that President Barack Obama was not born in the United States.[26] At one point, Root falsely claimed that Obama was not a student at Columbia University;[4] at another point, in an interview with Sean Hannity, Root said that he believed that Obama was a “foreign exchange student” at Columbia.[5] Root has described Obama as a “Marxist, anti-American, anti-Israel, globalist, middle class-hating, Muslim sympathizer”.[5] He also claimed that Obama was gay, called him “Bathhouse Barry” and said that he had info from Obama’s “friends in Chicago” about Obama’s “sordid past”.[5] He has described Obama as a “Manchurian candidate”, possibly hired by the Bilderberg Group to destroy the United States and “kill all of us”.[5]

He promoted conspiracy theories around the murder of Seth Rich, and at various times suggested that Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Hillary Clinton, Donna Brazile, Bill Clinton, Eric Schneiderman and John Podesta were involved in the murder.[5]

During the white supremacist Unite the Right rally, Root falsely claimed that the white supremacist James Alex Fields Jr. who killed Heather Heyer was “such B.S. Probably paid actors & infiltrators hired by Soros. No conservative I’ve ever met commits violence. EVER.”[5]

Root tweeted in the aftermath of the 2017 Las Vegas shooting: “This is a real thing. Clearly Coordinated Muslim Terror attack. PRAY for our Vegas police. PRAY for victims. VERY bad. Awful.”[27] It was later confirmed that the shooter was 64-year-old Mesquite, Nevada, resident Stephen Paddock.[28] Root then defended his original claim by tweeting: “Terrible day. Liberal fools criticizing me 4 reporting what I hear DIRECT from police & credible news sources. I report it as I hear it.”[29]

Root argued that Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election is motivated by “penis envy”, because “Mueller’s is smaller than Trump’s.”[5]

en.wikipedia.org

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:29:05am

re: #249 The Pie Overlord!

Garbage Hobbit goes all “Both Sides”

Did he snap a vertebrae with that stretch?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:30:08am

re: #242 lawhawk

He thinks Corinthians is an architectural term

You give him more credit than I:

Column, put lots and lots of columns everywhere, they’re classy. Use the ones with the leaves sticking out on the top.

That is as close to understanding the term from an architectural POV that will achieve.

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lawhawk  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:30:11am

re: #249 The Pie Overlord!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:30:12am

re: #249 The Pie Overlord!

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:31:42am

re: #246 lawhawk

Many, many moons ago, back when I lived in the US, I used to moonlight as a bartender at a nudie bar.

One of the dancers told me she’d always know when an economic downturn was coming. She didn’t even need to look at a newspaper or tune in to one of the market watch programs.

Her hypothesis was that when she was making less than $100 a shift, a downturn was coming. When times were good, she could easily make $200 to $300 a shift, no problem.

Basically, hanging out at a nudie bar and tipping the dancers involves having a good degree of disposable income and job security on the part of the patrons. If they start feeling economically insecure, or they’re worried about their own immediate future - maybe their company has imposed a hiring freeze, or rumors are floating around about impending layoffs as a cost-cutting measure - then people quit going to the nudie bar, or if they go, they don’t tip anywhere near as well.

I’ve dubbed it “Angie’s Nudie Bar Predictive Economic Theorem”.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:32:36am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:33:21am

re: #259 Dr Lizardo

Many, many moons ago, back when I lived in the US, I used to moonlight as a bartender at a nudie bar.

One of the dancers told me she’d always know when an economic downturn was coming. She didn’t even need to look at a newspaper or tune in to one of the market watch programs.

Her hypothesis was that when she was making less than $100 a shift, a downturn was coming. When times were good, she could easily make $200 to $300 a shift, no problem.

Basically, hanging out at a nudie bar and tipping the dancers involves having a good degree of disposable income and job security on the part of the patrons. If they start feeling economically insecure, or they’re worried about their own immediate future - maybe their company has imposed a hiring freeze, or rumors are floating around about impending layoffs as a cost-cutting measure - then people quit going to the nudie bar, or if they go, they don’t tip anywhere near as well.

I’ve dubbed it “Angie’s Nudie Bar Predictive Economic Theorem”.

This may require some research!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:34:04am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:35:43am

re: #259 Dr Lizardo

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:37:20am

re: #257 lawhawk

Bulkshit.

Anti-Semites don’t give a shit who is religious or not. They lump them all together. You’re dissembling to stay in good graces with racists and bigots.

And you’re enabling anti-Semitic tropes of dual loyalty to boot.

not only dont they give a shit
i’d wager they dont even think this deeply or know that anyone makes such thinly sliced ‘distinctions’

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b.d.  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:38:08am

I’m not going to fight with wingnuts over this, I’m just going to sit back and laugh.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:38:15am

re: #263 Eclectic Cyborg

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

LOL.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:39:24am

Another great Teri Kanefield thread.

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Interesting Times  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:40:24am

re: #155 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Here’s my nightmare scenario of the next few years, even if the Democrats win in November: With the economy slowing, the Democrats win the WH in a landslide, expand their House majority, and even win a small majority in the Senate. We rejoice! Senate Democrats, looking forward to a new era of bipartisanship, retain the filibuster; McConnell chuckles. As the economy slips into recession in 2021, the Republicans demand steep domestic spending cuts to fight the alarmingly high budget deficit, and shut down the federal government, slowing the economy more. GOP approval drops, but after a compromise is reached which provides smaller domestic spending cuts and a stimulus package of big tax cuts for the rich and small ones for everyone else, GOP approval quickly rebounds while the Democrats shrink. The House passes legislation to address immigration, climate change, infrastructure, education, election reform and healthcare. It all dies in the Senate, as the Democratic majority helplessly explains that the Republican minority who control the Senate won’t let them do anything. The Democrats reinstate blue slips, and the judicial approval process slows to a crawl. With the economy stagnate and millions out of work, demoralized Democratic voters stay home in the 2022 midterms and the GOP regains control of both Houses of Congress. A Supreme Court Justice dies in early 2023, and McConnell vows to leave the seat vacant until 2025 to give the voters the chance to decide who will fill it, so the President’s nominee is ignored on the Hill, and absolutely no new federal judges are approved during the last two years of his term. Another federal government shutdown throws even more Americans out of work, and another compromise bill is eventually passed with even more domestic spending cuts combined with another big tax cut for the rich. In 2024 Kris Kobach is nominated by the GOP for President promising to put American workers first through mass deportations and wins the presidency with 45% of the vote as third party voting swells because the Democratic President’s term of office was an utter failure.

This scenario is 99% guaranteed if Biden wins. If enough Americans in the states that matter finally smarten up enough to give someone like Warren a chance, then perhaps it can be averted (at least she acknowledges what an utter filthbag McConnell is).

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:41:22am

Anecdata, but I’m seeing a small trend where I live: there’s a noticeable number of new Corvettes on the road around here these days. While I hope not, I think some folks counting on a Trump miracle are going to regret their midlife crisis choices in the coming months.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:42:45am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:44:41am

re: #269 Barefoot Grin

Anecdata, but I’m seeing a small trend where I live: there’s a noticeable number of new Corvettes on the road around here these days. While I hope not, I think some folks counting on a Trump miracle are going to regret their midlife crisis choices in the coming months.

If you’re right, you may well soon be able to get one hell of a good deal on a slightly-used Corvette.

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gocart mozart  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:48:59am
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:50:00am
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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:53:18am

re: #267 NO SMOCKING GUN!

15/ Fact: Trump spends his working day as US president devising ways to cause pain and trouble, and blaming the ensuing pain on “enemies” he creates. He masks all this with a parade of crisis and spectacle of his own making.

It isn’t going to stop until he’s voted out.

bet it doesnt end then eithre

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:55:16am

re: #272 gocart mozart

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:55:25am

re: #273 The Pie Overlord!

I have a couple of students who were initially supportive of Trump, or at least willing to give him a chance at the outset.

They’ve now turned against him, regarding his presidency as a horrific blunder. One of them asked me a couple of months back, “Has Trump always been this incompetent?” His English is good enough that he can read newspaper articles with minimal difficulty, so I pointed him in the direction of articles that gave the lowdown on Trump’s checkered past.

As he pointed out afterwards, sadly, that information really isn’t reported in the mainstream Czech media.

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lawhawk  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:56:44am

Another right wing domestic terrorist was identified and caught before he caused harm. The guy’s a full blown wackaloon , but doesn’t fit neatly into the white supremacist spectrum, even as he was affirmatively supporting Hitler, Nazis and murdering Hispanics.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:56:46am

In 1916, residents of the Danish West Indies (Virgin Islands) approved the territory’s proposed sale to the United States by a vote of 4027 for to 7 against in an unofficial referendum. This, and the sale itself, were largely the result of a campaign led by local newspaper editor and labor activist David Hamilton Jackson. In the more formal referendum in Denmark itself, the vote was 283,670 in favor, 158,157.

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:57:29am

re: #269 Barefoot Grin

Anecdata, but I’m seeing a small trend where I live: there’s a noticeable number of new Corvettes on the road around here these days. While I hope not, I think some folks counting on a Trump miracle are going to regret their midlife crisis choices in the coming months.

they recently built a porsche / lamborghini dealership in broward county florida

there’s also a dealer in miami-dade 23 miles away
and another one in palm beach

how many lamborghinis they gonna sell around here?

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William Lewis  Aug 21, 2019 • 8:57:52am

re: #269 Barefoot Grin

Anecdata, but I’m seeing a small trend where I live: there’s a noticeable number of new Corvettes on the road around here these days. While I hope not, I think some folks counting on a Trump miracle are going to regret their midlife crisis choices in the coming months.

They’re pushing out some models at “relatively” low prices (~$60k) as a way to phase in the new mid engined version that is automatic transmission only and going to take a major jump in price next model year. Chevy is so fucked by this upcoming recession… hope they still have the documents explaining how the last GM bailout worked.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:00:10am

re: #279 DangerMan

they recently built a porsche / lamborghini dealership in broward county florida

there’s also a dealer in miami-dade 23 miles away
and another one in palm beach

how many lamborghinis they gonna sell around here?

That’s a good question. It sure as hell isn’t the 1980s anymore, with the cocaine cowboys running around and splashing their ill-gotten gains anywhere and everywhere.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:00:55am

re: #280 William Lewis

They’re pushing out some models at “relatively” low prices (~$60k) as a way to phase in the new mid engined version that is automatic transmission only and going to take a major jump in price next model year. Chevy is so fucked by this upcoming recession… hope they still have the documents explaining how the last GM bailout worked.

WTF?!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:01:32am

Massive tinfoil hat in place:

I have to wonder if the Greenland sale idiocy is not somehow connected to a Putin plan to regain Alaska, preparing the ground of lunatic opinion, so to speak. Some Trump-allied Russian fascists have proposed this seriously and publicly, either by subversion or conquest or, most likely, a vote by the Trump-brainwashed populace.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:02:41am
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:02:51am

I. Just. Can’t. Anymore.

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:03:09am

re: #278 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

In 1916, residents of the Danish West Indies (Virgin Islands) approved the territory’s proposed sale to the United States by a vote of 4027 for to 7 against in an unofficial referendum. This, and the sale itself, were largely the result of a campaign led by local newspaper editor and labor activist David Hamilton Jackson. In the more formal referendum in Denmark itself, the vote was 283,670 in favor, 158,157.

yup the last time territory changed hands this way was more than 100 years ago.
this morning’s electoral-vote.com:

Of course, governance and diplomacy are not a business, so Trump can apply every trick in The Art of the Deal, and he’s still not getting Greenland

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:05:09am

re: #281 Dr Lizardo

That’s a good question. It sure as hell isn’t the 1980s anymore, with the cocaine cowboys running around and splashing their ill-gotten gains anywhere and everywhere.

you gotta sell x cars a day just to cover the rent/building costs at any dealership, let alone profits

every day

is everyone in south florida gonna be driving a lam or a ferrari?
i dont see how this possibly works long term

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:06:01am

re: #285 The Pie Overlord!

I. Just. Can’t. Anymore.

JUST NOW: I asked @realDonaldTrump who American Jews are being disloyal to by voting for Democrats, he said they’re being “disloyal to Israel.”

well that clears that up

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:06:27am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:07:12am

re: #279 DangerMan

Now that I think about it a little, I recall reading somewhere that the wealthy have been on a spending spree, typically at high-end retailers these days - largely thanks to those generous GOP tax cuts.

Meanwhile, the middle class and the working class have begun reining in their spending.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:08:41am

re: #285 The Pie Overlord!

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:09:30am
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:11:05am

WTFITS. Imma wait for the video of this.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:12:02am

*face palm*

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:12:15am

re: #293 The Pie Overlord!

LOL if really said that, holy shit, his megalomania has just gone off the charts.

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William Lewis  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:12:38am

re: #282 Dr Lizardo

WTF?!

They claim there is no demand in the last few years so they weren’t going to spend money on developing a special one for a midengined design.

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:13:46am

re: #285 The Pie Overlord!

I. Just. Can’t. Anymore.

“American Jews are not loyal to America by being loyal to Israel. Also, American Jews aren’t being loyal to Israel by being loyal to America.”

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:13:50am

re: #295 Dr Lizardo

LOL if really said that, holy shit, his megalomania has just gone off the charts.

OK, whew. I thought he was actually trying to say he was the Second Coming of Christ or something.

You know what though? I’ll betcha if he did say he was the second coming, the Evangelicals would lap it up without batting an eye.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:14:39am

FUCK DONALD TRUMP!!!

I seriously cannot wait for the day this orange fuckwad leaves office.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:15:19am

re: #271 Dr Lizardo

If you’re right, you may well soon be able to get one hell of a good deal on a slightly-used Corvette.

There was a slightly-used one at the dealer down the street going for $54K, so….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:15:29am

re: #268 Interesting Times

This scenario is 99% guaranteed if Biden wins. If enough Americans in the states that matter finally smarten up enough to give someone like Warren a chance, then perhaps it can be averted (at least she acknowledges what an utter filthbag McConnell is).

That is my worst-case scenario: that we get Trump out of office but the damage he has done is not repaired.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:16:11am

re: #296 William Lewis

They claim there is no demand in the last few years so they weren’t going to spend money on developing a special one for a midengined design.

Maybe I’m old-school and showing my age here, but a mid-engine sports car with an automatic transmission?

That’s heresy. Practically Warhammer 40K levels of heresy.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:17:30am

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:18:07am

re: #293 The Pie Overlord!

I’d rather watch this than Trump.

[ Kung Pow! ] ▶ “Chosen one!” … “I’m coming” (10 hours)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:18:45am

re: #301 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is my worst-case scenario: that we get Trump out of office but the damage he has done is not repaired.

Right. You can expect the post-Trump GOP to do everything they can to cripple the next Democratic President, including pulling the Merrick Garland maneuver again.

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mmmirele  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:19:26am

It turns out Jeffrey Epstein’s tentacles were everywhere. Ethan Zuckerman, a leader at MIT’s Media Lab, is resigning after this academic year because the director of the Media Lab, Joi Ito, was deeply entangled with Epstein, who was a donor. Ito was warned, but went on cultivating the relationship.

bostonglobe.com

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:20:21am

re: #304 GlutenFreeJesus

I’d rather watch this than Trump.

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When I think “Chosen One”, I tend to recall a particular Chosen One who ended up minus both legs, one arm and on fire next to a river of lava.

And then he got put into a walking iron lung (granted, a pretty badass-looking one) and became Space Hitler.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:20:51am

re: #268 Interesting Times

This scenario is 99% guaranteed if Biden wins. If enough Americans in the states that matter finally smarten up enough to give someone like Warren a chance, then perhaps it can be averted (at least she acknowledges what an utter filthbag McConnell is).

The filibuster and 60 vote rule MUST be killed. If they are not killed then your scenario will happen.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:22:10am

re: #155 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Here’s my nightmare scenario of the next few years, even if the Democrats win in November: With the economy slowing, the Democrats win the WH in a landslide, expand their House majority, and even win a small majority in the Senate. We rejoice! Senate Democrats, looking forward to a new era of bipartisanship, retain the filibuster; McConnell chuckles. As the economy slips into recession in 2021, the Republicans demand steep domestic spending cuts to fight the alarmingly high budget deficit, and shut down the federal government, slowing the economy more. GOP approval drops, but after a compromise is reached which provides smaller domestic spending cuts and a stimulus package of big tax cuts for the rich and small ones for everyone else, GOP approval quickly rebounds while the Democrats shrink. The House passes legislation to address immigration, climate change, infrastructure, education, election reform and healthcare. It all dies in the Senate, as the Democratic majority helplessly explains that the Republican minority who control the Senate won’t let them do anything. The Democrats reinstate blue slips, and the judicial approval process slows to a crawl. With the economy stagnate and millions out of work, demoralized Democratic voters stay home in the 2022 midterms and the GOP regains control of both Houses of Congress. A Supreme Court Justice dies in early 2023, and McConnell vows to leave the seat vacant until 2025 to give the voters the chance to decide who will fill it, so the President’s nominee is ignored on the Hill, and absolutely no new federal judges are approved during the last two years of his term. Another federal government shutdown throws even more Americans out of work, and another compromise bill is eventually passed with even more domestic spending cuts combined with another big tax cut for the rich. In 2024 Kris Kobach is nominated by the GOP for President promising to put American workers first through mass deportations and wins the presidency with 45% of the vote as third party voting swells because the Democratic President’s term of office was an utter failure.

If the Democrats win the Presidency and both Houses, your vision will not happen. No tax cut for the wealthy — more likely a repeal of most of the tax scam, with perhaps an expansion of cuts that help those of lower income. The Democratic Senate will seek retribution. And, with luck, there will be an investigation into Kavanaugh’s finances that may force his resignation. The real problem arises if the GOP retains the Senate in 2020; the President then will be stymied in both legislation and judicial appointments. And who knows what a Republican Senate will do regarding Cabinet appointments.

The Constitutional construction of the Senate and the Electoral College is so flawed that our nation may not survive.

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:22:15am

re: #302 Dr Lizardo

Maybe I’m old-school and showing my age here, but a mid-engine sports car with an automatic transmission?

That’s heresy. Practically Warhammer 40K levels of heresy.

you can call it heresey
i just call it pointless

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William Lewis  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:22:49am

re: #302 Dr Lizardo

Maybe I’m old-school and showing my age here, but a mid-engine sports car with an automatic transmission?

That’s heresy. Practically Warhammer 40K levels of heresy.

Trust me, I agree. But then, in sports car fantasy mode for me it’s either a Miata (practical and good supercharger kits are available) or (post loto :) a Lotus Evora 400, the most recent one that can be imported to the US due to our safety laws :D The ‘vette hasn’t been worth anything since, depending on my mood, the 63 split window or the very last sting ray.

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Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:23:55am

re: #299 Eclectic Cyborg

FUCK DONALD TRUMP!!!

I seriously cannot wait for the day this orange fuckwad leaves office.

While we wait he destroys us.

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Jay C  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:23:57am

re: #283 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Massive tinfoil hat in place:

I have to wonder if the Greenland sale idiocy is not somehow connected to a Putin plan to regain Alaska, preparing the ground of lunatic opinion, so to speak. Some Trump-allied Russian fascists have proposed this seriously and publicly, either by subversion or conquest or, most likely, a vote by the Trump-brainwashed populace.

No need for the sombrero aluminio : it’s more likely the “Greenland” nonsense is simply the Trump Administration going about international diplomacy in its usual manner: clumsily, incompetently and generally counterproductive. I guessing somebody in the Admin or the Government (?military?) has finally figured out that global warming (which of course, the Administration still won’t officially admit exists) is going to have effects on the Arctic Ocean, and there are going to be security, safety and navigation issues if/when the Northwest Passage becomes a regular seasonal thing. A normal Admin would try to deal with potential maritime problems via, say, existing diplomatic organizations (there is, I think, an Arctic Council(?) of the five nations (US, Canada, Russia, Denmark/Greenland and (?) Norway) which border the region: but since US FP is in the hands of morons like Trump and Pompeo, what we get is sensationalist BS like “let’s buy Greenland” instead.

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:24:10am

re: #302 Dr Lizardo

Maybe I’m old-school and showing my age here, but a mid-engine sports car with an automatic transmission?

That’s heresy. Practically Warhammer 40K levels of heresy.

What’s the point of a sports car if you can’t take it on a track?

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William Lewis  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:24:31am

re: #307 Dr Lizardo

When I think “Chosen One”, I tend to recall a particular Chosen One who ended up minus both legs, one arm and on fire next to a river of lava.

And then he got put into a walking iron lung (granted, a pretty badass-looking one) and became Space Hitler.

So someone needs to have the Mango Moron’s midichlorian level checked???

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:25:43am

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:29:41am

re: #311 William Lewis

Trust me, I agree. But then, in sports car fantasy mode for me it’s either a Miata (practical and good supercharger kits are available) or (post loto :) a Lotus Evora 400, the most recent one that can be imported to the US due to our safety laws :D The ‘vette hasn’t been worth anything since, depending on my mood, the 63 split window or the very last sting ray.

There’s a ‘76 Stingray running around here in Ostrava. I usually see it tooling around on really nice days. It’s the only Corvette I’ve seen probably in this entire region. There’s a couple of Ferrari’s running around too.

There’s a ‘69 Mustang Fastback for sale at a dealership here in town. I actually took a look at it - it had been restored, but to be honest, it was kind of a half-assed restoration and there’s absolutely no way in hell I’d pay the 1.5 million Czech Koruna ($65,000 Dollars) they want for it.

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Jay C  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:30:07am

MEANING MILESTONE ALERT!!!

I see No. 313 above is my 6,000th LGF comment (since Feb. 2012)

Yay Me!!!

Now all I need are 275 more updings til the next one!

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Amory Blaine  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:30:40am

“Zardoz speaks to you, his chosen ones.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:31:04am

The chosen one JFC.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:31:12am

re: #268 Interesting Times

This scenario is 99% guaranteed if Biden wins. If enough Americans in the states that matter finally smarten up enough to give someone like Warren a chance, then perhaps it can be averted (at least she acknowledges what an utter filthbag McConnell is).

Even Warren will be helpless to pass any legislative agenda if the Senate Democrats don’t abolish the filibuster, and they almost certainly won’t.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:31:58am

re: #317 Dr Lizardo

There’s a ‘76 Stingray running around here in Ostrava. I usually see it tooling around on really nice days. It’s the only Corvette I’ve seen probably in this entire region. There’s a couple of Ferrari’s running around too.

There’s a ‘69 Mustang Fastback for sale at a dealership here in town. I actually took a look at it - it had been restored, but to be honest, it was kind of a half-assed restoration and there’s absolutely no way in hell I’d pay the 1.5 million Czech Koruna ($65,000 Dollars) they want for it.

Finland seems to be overrun with vintage US cars. I have seen a handful are here in Germany, but I imagine it is harder to get them to pass all the safety, emissions and other tests needed to stay on the road.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:33:19am

re: #276 Dr Lizardo

I have a couple of students who were initially supportive of Trump, or at least willing to give him a chance at the outset.

They’ve now turned against him, regarding his presidency as a horrific blunder. One of them asked me a couple of months back, “Has Trump always been this incompetent?” His English is good enough that he can read newspaper articles with minimal difficulty, so I pointed him in the direction of articles that gave the lowdown on Trump’s checkered past.

As he pointed out afterwards, sadly, that information really isn’t reported in the mainstream Czech media.

Its not really reported in mainstream US media either.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:34:50am

re: #308 Joe Bacon 🌹

The filibuster and 60 vote rule MUST be killed. If they are not killed then your scenario will happen.

And courtesy of the Constitution, 51 votes in the Senate could represent less than 20% of the US population. We are living with the tyranny of the minority — and I’m not sure how we can escape this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:35:47am

re: #276 Dr Lizardo

I have a couple of students who were initially supportive of Trump, or at least willing to give him a chance at the outset.

They’ve now turned against him, regarding his presidency as a horrific blunder.

I sometimes still visit moonofalabama, even though it is overrun with Putinversteher and people who dislike Trump but still insist that Obama was a warmonger & Hillary would have been just as bad or worse.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:35:51am

re: #322 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Finland seems to be overrun with vintage US cars. I have seen a handful are here in Germany, but I imagine it is harder to get them to pass all the safety, emissions and other tests needed to stay on the road.

Here in Czech Republic, it’s utterly pointless to have anything like that. The law here designates those cars as veteráni (classic cars) and that designation means you can’t use it as a daily driver. You can only use it to drive it to classic car rallies or the like.

Spending $65,000 on a car I could maybe drive four or five times a year? At most?

To hell with that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:36:51am

re: #324 Hecuba’s daughter

And courtesy of the Constitution, 51 votes in the Senate could represent less than 20% of the US population. We are living with the tyranny of the minority — and I’m not sure how we can escape this.

Could the number of Senate seats be expanded without a constitutional amendment?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:38:39am

re: #298 Dr Lizardo

OK, whew. I thought he was actually trying to say he was the Second Coming of Christ or something.

You know what though? I’ll betcha if he did say he was the second coming, the Evangelicals would lap it up without batting an eye.

He did, in a tweet today, and they did.

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mmmirele  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:39:43am

Aw hell. I never thought of this before. For the record, I know the book of Revelation is about issues in the nascent Christian church at the end of the 1st century. But still, this is uncanny.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:39:45am

re: #327 Eclectic Cyborg

Could the number of Senate seats be expanded without a constitutional amendment?

Adding states is the easier option

But making Puerto Rico a state would mean accepting Spanish as an official language there and adding Washington DC would add a large “urban” population to the US and that would rankle a lot of “rural” folks.

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:41:14am

re: #327 Eclectic Cyborg

Could the number of Senate seats be expanded without a constitutional amendment?

More states.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:42:33am

WHAT THE UTTER FUCK IS THIS SHIT.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:43:01am

re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Adding states is the easier option

But making Puerto Rico a state would mean accepting Spanish as an official language there and adding Washington DC would add a large “urban” population to the US and that would rankle a lot of “rural” folks.

There is a constitutional problem with admitting DC as a state because the 24th Amendment limits DC to 3 electoral votes. Also the DC admission amendment was sent to the states with a 7 year time expiration that let it go moot in 1985.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:43:11am

re: #331 Belafon

More states.

Yep, adding Puerto Rico and Washington, D.C. as states would do it.

And the wingnuts would be screaming bloody murder if that happened.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:43:35am

re: #309 Hecuba’s daughter

If the Democrats win the Presidency and both Houses, your vision will not happen. No tax cut for the wealthy — more likely a repeal of most of the tax scam, with perhaps an expansion of cuts that help those of lower income. The Democratic Senate will seek retribution. And, with luck, there will be an investigation into Kavanaugh’s finances that may force his resignation. The real problem arises if the GOP retains the Senate in 2020; the President then will be stymied in both legislation and judicial appointments. And who knows what a Republican Senate will do regarding Cabinet appointments.

The Constitutional construction of the Senate and the Electoral College is so flawed that our nation may not survive.

Eliminate the tax cut for the rich, and even with a Democratic Senate, the rest of my scenario is likely because there are Democrats determined to retain the filibuster.

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retired cynic  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:43:47am

re: #279 DangerMan

they recently built a porsche / lamborghini dealership in broward county florida

there’s also a dealer in miami-dade 23 miles away
and another one in palm beach

how many lamborghinis they gonna sell around here?

It only takes one.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:44:25am

re: #332 The Pie Overlord!

WHAT THE UTTER FUCK IS THIS SHIT.

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Great. He’s gonna get ‘em all hooked on Adderall or something.

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William Lewis  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:45:11am

re: #331 Belafon

More states.

Puerto Rico
Columbia (as in the former district)
Pacifica (Samoa and the other islands)
Virgin Islands? Or part of PR?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:46:35am

re: #338 William Lewis

Puerto Rico
Columbia (as in the former district)
Pacifica (Samoa and the other islands)
Virgin Islands? Or part of PR?

North and South California

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:47:25am

re: #324 Hecuba’s daughter

And courtesy of the Constitution, 51 votes in the Senate could represent less than 20% of the US population. We are living with the tyranny of the minority — and I’m not sure how we can escape this.

The Democrats would have to go big and bold. Abolish the filibuster and grant statehood to at least D.C. and Puerto Rico. I’d be radical and also grant statehood to Virgin Islands, Guam, Saipan and the Marianas; Nv had only 20k residents when the GOP granted it statehood to help them retain control of the Senate.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:50:55am

How do you post a Tweet from a thread without including the previous Tweet?

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:51:13am

today’s print NYT “NRA Chat wins convert in the oval office”

and trump said yesterday

the United States already has “very strong background checks” for gun purchasers and that officials need to be wary of the prospect of a “slippery slope” where “everything gets taken away.”

one tiny step. “stronger background checks”
and he goes right for the moronic inevitable immediate “everything gets taken away”
wow

Parkland students - yes, good intentions.

“The student activists who crashed the political arena after the mass shooting last year at their high school in Parkland, Fla., are throwing their weight behind a new and ambitious gun-control program that they hope will set the tone for the debate following the most recent mass shootings and headed into the 2020 elections,” the Washington Post reports. Axios has highlights of the proposal.

- national licensing and gun registry that would include in-person interviews and a 10-day wait before gun purchases are approved.
- Ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.
- Implement a mandatory gun buyback program.

contrast the three stories and i’m sorry NONE OF THIS WILL EVER HAPPEN

which is why i say give them the entire slippery slope because there is no arguing with this. take it away, then they got nothing.

focus on the only thing they cant deny or explain away: personal responsibility.
including when you sell, give, loan or otherwise transfer your weapon to someone else.
why is this so difficult?

background checks should be comprehensive, easy and voluntary. if you dont take reasonable steps to vet the receiver, whatever they do is on you (especially if they are on the not allowed to own list).

its your freedom, finances and future. be responsible, reasonable and act accordingly. or don’t, as you see fit.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:51:22am

Lubbock Weird-o-Rama update

Police K-9, 14-year-old shot after Tuesday morning police chase
The 14 year old is alleged to have fired several shots at police with a stolen gun, hitting the dog. He was, in turn, shot by the officer. Dog and kid are expected to recover.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:53:45am

Meanwhile back in Denmark…

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:53:57am

re: #336 retired cynic

It only takes one.

there’s a lot of test drives to be sure
whoever buys one to drive around here is gonna sit in the same bumper to bumper traffic with all the rest of us

granted they;ll look like they’re going faster

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:54:35am

re: #345 DangerMan

there’s a lot of test drives to be sure
whoever buys one to drive around here is gonna sit in the same bumper to bumper traffic with all the rest of us

granted they;ll look like they’re going faster

especially with rally stripes

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:54:45am

re: #342 DangerMan

I’m glad they’re doing it, because it will never happen if people don’t pursue it.

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:55:09am

re: #344 Joe Bacon 🌹

Meanwhile back in Denmark…

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im rooting for denmark

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 21, 2019 • 9:58:26am

re: #335 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Eliminate the tax cut for the rich, and even with a Democratic Senate, the rest of my scenario is likely because there are Democrats determined to retain the filibuster.

The filibuster has definitely been abused; instead of being a rare event, it is a common occurrence. But without the filibuster, what legislation would the GOP have been able to pass in the first 2 years of the Trump administration? The wall certainly would have been well under construction.

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:00:04am

re: #342 DangerMan

Pursuing personal responsibility won’t get you very far either, because it’s real easy to argue against creating laws that legislate personal responsibility. If you could enforce personal responsibility, we wouldn’t need speed limits, stop signs, or requirements for drivers insurance.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:00:55am
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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:01:57am

re: #349 Hecuba’s daughter

The filibuster has definitely been abused; instead of being a rare event, it is a common occurrence. But without the filibuster, what legislation would the GOP have been able to pass in the first 2 years of the Trump administration? The wall certainly would have been well under construction.

One of the things that has annoyed me about the last 20+ years is voters electing Republicans for their ideas, but counting on Democrats to block them. Eliminating the filibuster would end that.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:01:59am

re: #348 DangerMan

im rooting for denmark

A former co-worker of mine here who now lives in Copenhagen with her boyfriend just let me know that pretty much everyone she knows in Denmark thinks that Trump is a blatant asshole - and probably senile (or possibly insane) to boot.

Sadly, she also noted that her opinion of the US, which was pretty high before, had definitely fallen. She outright asked me how anyone could possibly take Trump seriously as a leader?

I’m waiting for her reaction to Trump insinuating that he’s the Second Coming of Christ….I sent her some links, including to LGF.

Heh.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:02:37am
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Dread Pirate  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:03:47am

If he’s Jesus can we nail him to a cross to be sure?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:04:32am

So, you’re Donald Trump, you’re the great Donald Trump
Wayne Root says you’re so divine - cause he loves to hear you whine
That’s all you need do, and I’ll know it’s all true
C’mon, king of the Jews!

Trump you just won’t believe the hit you’ve made round here
You are all we talk about, the wonder of the year!
Oh, what a pity if it’s all a lie
Still, I’m sure that you can rock the cynics if you try

So, you’re Donald Trump, you’re the great Donald Trump
Franky Graham says you’re not a fool - walk across my swimming pool
If you do that for me, you’ll be President for Eternity!
C’mon, king of the Jews!

I only ask things I’d ask any superstar
What is it that you have got that puts you where you are?
I am waiting, yes, I’m a captive fan
I’m dying to be shown that you are not just any man…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:04:41am

re: #339 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

North and South California

West Texas
This would formalize its status as a looney-tune Trumpite reservation.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:08:36am

re: #355 Dread Pirate

If he’s Jesus can we nail him to a cross to be sure?

Gotta remember to use the spear, too. Just to be historically accurate and all.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:09:20am

re: #356 Joe Bacon 🌹

Here’s the original - so we can sing along with your improvised lyrics.

King Herod’s song - Mike d’Abo

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:09:50am

re: #358 Blind Frog Belly White

Gotta remember to use the spear, too. Just to be historically accurate and all.

Don’t forget the crown of thorns or the INRI sign!

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makeitstop  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:10:03am

re: #332 The Pie Overlord!

Trump says his solution to the epidemic of veteran suicides is some new “stimulant” produced by Johnson & Johnson that he’s instructed the government to buy in large quantities

Now I’m wondering if J&J turned him on to a suitcase full of samples, and that’s what’s fueling the escalating insanity…

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wrenchwench  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:11:09am

re: #357 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

West Texas
This would formalize its status as a looney-tune Trumpite reservation.

El Paso is Far West Texas? Can you just give it to New Mexico already? Our biggest city would be three times larger!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:12:30am

re: #341 The Pie Overlord!

How do you post a Tweet from a thread without including the previous Tweet?

?hide at the end of the tweet link

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:12:50am

What’s next?

Does Trump go the full Jonathan Winters destroying the gas station routine?

It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World (1963) - Phil Silvers and Jonathan Winters battle it out

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makeitstop  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:13:01am

re: #355 Dread Pirate

If he’s Jesus can we nail him to a cross to be sure?

I’ll settle for putting him in a cave and sealing it up with a big rock.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:13:58am

A Copenhagen newspaper editorial

The brutal Danish reality after Trump’s absurd cancellation

US security policy interests in Greenland and thus the Arctic are legitimate. It is an area that is increasingly a minefield in the game between the United States, Russia and China in particular, and here the US has a very specific problem, if you can not even more than today include Greenland and its massive land area in its major political considerations.

This is the brutal reality that after the cancellation of President Donald Trump’s visit, Denmark is whipped to look.

But, of course, this understandable interest does not give the United States (or others for that matter) carte blanche to any behavior.

Trump’s postponement of the official state visit indefinitely is in itself a completely unheard of step, a diplomatic insult and deeply ominous to the state throughout transatlantic cooperation. Also under NATO auspices:

Imagine a US president canceling a state visit to another NATO country on the express grounds that that country has refused to divest part of its territory to the United States. It has not been seen before and it is a course of action that is unseen in the postwar period.

It is not just a random alliance that is now in crisis. This applies both to the issue of Greenland and to the whole: For decades, Denmark and the United States have had an extremely close cooperation on Greenland, where the United States has a military base at Thule. And Denmark has for many years been among America’s most loyal NATO allies, including in the war effort in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere.

Denmark has no interest in cooling down that relationship. Nor has the United States - the situation in the Arctic - taken into account. Yet this is precisely what is likely to happen, especially because of President Trump’s absurd behavior. Sensible forces in both nations should now make every effort to prevent this episode from damaging our relationship. This also applies to the Danish government, whose deep commitment now is to act wisely and carefully.

When Donald Trump’s visit to Denmark was announced, the reaction from parts of the Danish public, including several politicians on the left, was quite astonishing: Instead of recognizing the importance that the President of Denmark’s most important ally would make official visits with all that brings with it opportunities politically, diplomatically and professionally, decaying more into pure childishness. From crazy social media posts about Trump not being welcome at all, to talking to Trump balloons and the like.

But even in these circles, it must now be judged that one was astray. Strengthening ties with the US administration is precisely of strategic importance, and an official state visit where Trump was invited by Denmark’s Queen Margrethe would be the perfect opportunity for this.

That it is the American president himself, the leader of the free world, who in this way figuratively peels the service of the banquet, must and must give deep brows and send people into overtime. In Copenhagen, Washington, but also with other US allies, who now have to ask themselves what to expect from their friend on the other side of the Atlantic?

TOM JENSEN

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:14:15am

re: #341 The Pie Overlord!

How do you post a Tweet from a thread without including the previous Tweet?

Add “?hide” to the end of the tweet URL. If it already has a query string (a question mark followed by something) use ‘&hide’ instead.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:15:09am
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:15:35am

re: #367 Charles Johnson

Add “?hide” to the end of the tweet URL. If it already has a query string (a question mark followed by something) use ‘&hide’ instead.

Thanks!

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:17:14am

re: #367 Charles Johnson

Add “?hide” to the end of the tweet URL. If it already has a query string (a question mark followed by something) use ‘&hide’ instead.

Could you add that to the help popup on your green question mark below?

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:17:21am

re: #350 Belafon

Pursuing personal responsibility won’t get you very far either, because it’s real easy to argue against creating laws that legislate personal responsibility. If you could enforce personal responsibility, we wouldn’t need speed limits, stop signs, or requirements for drivers insurance.

Not for people to behave better before the fact.

I’m talking about consequence laws, just like driving and every other aspects of life.
Speeding dui whatever have tickets fines jail loss of license

Penalties. Severe ones. After you screw up
Criminal civil and loss of 2a rights after you’ve demonstrated you can’t don’t or won’t control your weapons at all time

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nicdanger  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:21:49am

re: #356 Joe Bacon 🌹

So, you’re Donald Trump, you’re the great Donald Trump
Wayne Root says you’re so divine - cause he loves to hear you whine
That’s all you need do, and I’ll know it’s all true
C’mon, king of the Jews!

Trump you just won’t believe the hit you’ve made round here
You are all we talk about, the wonder of the year!
Oh, what a pity if it’s all a lie
Still, I’m sure that you can rock the cynics if you try

So, you’re Donald Trump, you’re the great Donald Trump
Franky Graham says you’re not a fool - walk across my swimming pool
If you do that for me, then I’ll let you go free
C’mon, king of the Jews!

I only ask things I’d ask any superstar
What is it that you have got that puts you where you are?
I am waiting, yes, I’m a captive fan
I’m dying to be shown that you are not just any man…

hahaha,I’d gladly give you 20 updings just for that JC Superstar song reference.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:24:06am
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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:24:27am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:25:50am

And people called Beto “inappropriate” for saying: Jesus Christ, of course Trump is racist!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:26:33am

re: #368 The Pie Overlord!

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But, you know, Jews shouldn’t feel singled out.

Trump CLEARLY believes that the only REAL Americans, who are completely American, are white Christians, so it makes perfect sense to him that, for example Judge Curiel, who was born in America, is Mexican because he’s not white. Jews are Israeli, because they’re not Christian. Ayanna Pressley is African because she’s not white.

Everyone who isn’t a White Christian is only conditionally American, to him, and for that matter to his followers.

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:27:07am

Mrs dm says if trump can walk on the water to Greenland then he can have it

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:27:14am
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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:27:48am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:28:38am

And the Corporate Controlled Conservative Press STILL gives Trump pass after pass!

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:29:02am

re: #377 DangerMan

Mrs dm says if trump can walk on the water to Greenland then he can have it

..at the market price

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:30:25am

re: #379 Charles Johnson

Hermione slapped Harry upside the head when he said that.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:31:28am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:31:28am

And yet relatives STILL slander Obama by saying he was a disaster as President…and they give Metamucillini pass after pass because they are dumb enough to believe he IS gawd’s anointed king to redeem America.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:31:53am

re: #378 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

The title “President For Life” contains within it a hint at the solution to the problem.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:32:06am

re: #380 Joe Bacon 🌹

And the Corporate Controlled Conservative Press STILL gives Trump pass after pass!

And this spray-tanned buffoon just insinuated that he’s some kind of Supreme Being, some species of the Divine.

In any normal era, this would be the ultimate WTF?! moment and the media would be asking very serious questions about his mental stability. If the Czech Republic’s quasi-senile alcoholic President, Miloš Zeman, did that, the media here would be talking 24/7 that he’d gone straight out of his goddamn mind.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:32:08am

re: #379 Charles Johnson

“Convince the public to have a recession.”

Like it’s something we can all get together and decide to do, like a birthday party or a big backyard BBQ.

FUCKING IDIOT.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:32:47am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:33:01am

re: #379 Charles Johnson

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If a Democrat had said these things, the Right would call him The Antichrist.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:33:10am

re: #374 Charles Johnson

How long will America let this go on?

Until Jan 2021, unless some nutcase does something ridiculously destructive to the country. Voting this mofo out is the quick route.

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:33:18am

re: #378 Charles Johnson

A newspaper that has been around for longer than Trump has been alive is going to close up when he’s gone? Uh huh.

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makeitstop  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:33:44am

Trump’s weirdness is getting exponentially more weird. And somehow it feels like it’s starting to accelerate. Where are we going to be by the end of the week? We’re halfway to fucking Crazyville now, and it’s only Wednesday.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:34:30am

re: #392 makeitstop

Trump’s weirdness is getting exponentially more weird. And somehow it feels like it’s starting to accelerate. Where are we going to be by the end of the week? We’re halfway to fucking Crazyville now, and it’s only Wednesday.

I was just thinking that.

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:34:44am

re: #388 The Pie Overlord!

Who is it? I can’t see the picture/video.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:35:23am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:35:29am

re: #392 makeitstop

Trump’s weirdness is getting exponentially more weird. And somehow it feels like it’s starting to accelerate. Where are we going to be by the end of the week? We’re halfway to fucking Crazyville now, and it’s only Wednesday.

The crazy train has no brakes.

Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train (1980)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:36:11am

Just a reminder of how Xtians went all in to anoint Trump to be God’s anointed King over us…

Paula White, Kenneth Copeland and Others Lay Hands On, Pray for Donald Trump

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:36:31am
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:36:58am

re: #379 Charles Johnson

Chosen by Russia. The Narcissist in Chief didn’t get the popular vote. Cannot be said enough.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:37:51am
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:37:55am

re: #395 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Why is Jenny trying to defend Trump? He said what he meant.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:38:09am

Don’t know why Trump continually attacks the New York Times since their front page and Maggie continually kiss his ass.

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:39:09am

re: #402 Joe Bacon 🌹

Stand-in for his cultists for, “Stuff That You Have To Read.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:39:15am

re: #379 Charles Johnson

“I AM THE CHOSEN ONE”

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Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:39:21am

re: #400 Charles Johnson

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Dune (1984 - He IS the Kwisatz Haderach)

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:39:33am

re: #395 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“Yeah, I set the barn on fire. Since no one else will, I’ll just have to get onto the firemen for not putting it out fast enough.”

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lawhawk  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:39:45am

re: #392 makeitstop

Trump’s weirdness is getting exponentially more weird. And somehow it feels like it’s starting to accelerate. Where are we going to be by the end of the week? We’re halfway to fucking Crazyville now, and it’s only Wednesday.

We passed Crazyville on January 21, 2017. We’ve passed the event horizon of a black hole of derp, and there’s no way to escape it.

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makeitstop  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:39:56am

re: #393 Blind Frog Belly White

I was just thinking that.

Well, we’re getting out of Dodge today - by end of week I’ll be sitting in a biergarten in Vienna, watching the country unravel from a distance.

Potential upside - maybe he’ll decide to go on TV and tell the nation just how totally chosen by God he is, and they’ll finally just roll the rubber truck up to the Oval.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:40:03am

re: #374 Charles Johnson

I’d block him based on that name alone. Racist scum.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:40:54am

re: #402 Joe Bacon 🌹

Don’t know why Trump continually attacks the New York Times since their front page and Maggie continually kiss his ass.

For the “Even The Liberal New York Times…” arguments, and because as a kid from Queens, he DESPERATELY needs their love.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:41:27am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:41:40am

re: #349 Hecuba’s daughter

The filibuster has definitely been abused; instead of being a rare event, it is a common occurrence. But without the filibuster, what legislation would the GOP have been able to pass in the first 2 years of the Trump administration? The wall certainly would have been well under construction.

Just remember that come 2021 even with a Democratic Congress and President no legislation on any issue we care about will be enacted with the filibuster in place.

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:42:13am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:42:41am

And this, kiddies, is why we needed to bust our humps and bank accounts in the Summer of 2016. It’s three times harder to get rid of an entrenched incumbent than to prevent one.

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lawhawk  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:43:08am
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lawhawk  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:45:21am

re: #411 Joe Bacon 🌹

Christian fascists, theocrats, and fundamentalists who back Trump are supporting Israel not because they support Jews and their rights, but because we are the means to their End Times prophesies, where we’re disposable and that Israel is necessary component for Armageddon.

They back Trump because Trump too is the guy they think will bring about the End Times - that level of incompetence is stunning and meant to cause so much chaos that it will cause lasting damage.

Religious extremists of all stripes are dangerous.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:46:08am

re: #3 Citizen K

Thank you. I stopped reading those “Trump supporters say” pieces way back in 2016. I don’t recall the MSM treating President Obama supporters like this.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:46:30am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:47:08am

So, heard back from my former co-worker in Copenhagen (Hi, Kaya!) and she’s asking - in all caps, mind you - OMG HOW CAN SUCH A CRAZY MAN BE PRESIDENT AND HAVE ACCESS TO NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND NOW HE THINKS HE’S JESUS! CAN’T SOMEONE DO SOMETHING?

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Mike Lamb  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:48:27am

re: #395 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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There is a saying in Mexico: Broma por broma, la verdad se asoma, which basically translates as “there is a little truth behind every joke (literally: joke by joke, the truth peeks out).

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:50:04am

re: #418 Charles Johnson

Best response to that ridiculous tweet:

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Mike Lamb  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:50:09am

re: #418 Charles Johnson

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Ah yes, we’re at the point in the show where the sycophants explain what Trump was really trying to say.

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William Lewis  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:50:27am

re: #385 Blind Frog Belly White

The title “President For Life” contains within it a hint at the solution to the problem.

Careful with saying even that. The Secret Service has the least sense of humor of all LEA I’ve ever met.

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:51:24am
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:52:57am

re: #394 Belafon

Who is it? I can’t see the picture/video.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:54:58am

re: #424 jaunte

The only tone of gravitas that should be used when talking about Trump is when talking about the mounting evidence that Trump is on the brink of some kind of psychotic episode, that his mental health is clearly - and rapidly - deteriorating.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 21, 2019 • 10:59:30am

On the plus side, we’re no longer being subjected to “Today, Donald Trump truly became President” takes anymore.

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:02:15am
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:04:02am
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:06:19am

re: #279 DangerMan

they recently built a porsche / lamborghini dealership in broward county florida

there’s also a dealer in miami-dade 23 miles away
and another one in palm beach

how many lamborghinis they gonna sell around here?

Depends. How many insecure little man-babies live around there? For a while, during the late stages of the subprime mortgage boom, the Lambo dealership in Scottsdale, AZ, couldn’t keep ‘em on the lot.

Every dipshit bartender who got into flipping houses, took his first paycheck and plopped it down as a down payment on his dream car. Along with bolt-on fake boobs for the girlfriend, mounds of cocaine and big boats that clogged up Lake Meade.

Basically, Trump writ small.

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Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:06:49am

re: #332 The Pie Overlord!

WHAT THE UTTER FUCK IS THIS SHIT.

[Embedded content]

I no longer find the Trump Show funny and want it to be cancelled NOW.

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Citizen K  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:08:49am

re: #395 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

re: #402 Joe Bacon 🌹

Don’t know why Trump continually attacks the New York Times since their front page and Maggie continually kiss his ass.

It’s precisely because they kiss his ass, and why they kiss his ass. NYT, as well as so much of the political media, have fully internalized the ‘liberal media’ bullshit line that they bend over backwards and rend their clothes to sate conservative grievances. And the more they see conservatives attack them, the more they see it as not having done enough to finally satisfy their need for objectivity. It’s the Overton Window in action. It’s the same reason they have maximum freakouts anytime someone from the left criticizes them.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:09:29am

re: #430 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Depends. How many insecure little man-babies live around there? For a while, during the late stages of the subprime mortgage boom, the Lambo dealership in Scottsdale, AZ, couldn’t keep ‘em on the lot.

Every dipshit bartender who got into flipping houses, took his first paycheck and plopped it down as a down payment on his dream car. Along with bolt-on fake boobs for the girlfriend, mounds of cocaine and big boats that clogged up Lake Meade.

Basically, Trump writ small.

What, did they all grow up watching Miami Vice?

BTW, on the plus side, now that they’re built by Audi, Lambos actually work reliably.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:09:59am

I’m going to listen, at least a little, just to see what kind of mind-bendingly stupid and disgusting assertions escape his piehole this time. How low will he go? There is no bottom. The only solution is to inaugurate another President on January 21, 2021.

President Trump Delivers Remarks at the American Veterans 75th National Convention
://President Trump Delivers Remarks at the American Veterans 75th National Convention

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Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:12:15am

re: #389 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If a Democrat had said these things, the Right would call him The Antichrist.

A Democrat would have been removed from office years before they got to this level of insanity. Yet the Republicans will do nothing and the media will continue to portray Trump as a conservative president with bold ideas.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:12:59am

re: #434 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’m going to listen, at least a little, just to see what kind of mind-bendingly stupid and disgusting assertions escape his piehole this time. How low will he go? There is no bottom. The only solution is to inaugurate another President on January 21, 2021.

President Trump Delivers Remarks at the American Veterans 75th National Convention
://[Embedded content]

Trump addressing veterans is like me lecturing nuns.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:13:15am

When I was young, I seriously lusted for a Ferrari. (Lamborghini was an upstart and I was a car traditionalist even then.) Alas, I couldn’t afford one. Now I can afford one but I think I would look like an idiot driving it.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:13:48am

re: #433 Blind Frog Belly White

What, did they all grow up watching Miami Vice?

BTW, on the plus side, now that they’re built by Audi, Lambos actually work reliably.

Hopefully, but I’d still imagine that a set of spark plugs for a Lamborghini would set you back a month’s pay. From what I recall, Lambo parts are notoriously expensive.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:13:58am

This country is fucking falling apart. Can’t we put Israel on the back burner for a little while?

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:16:13am

re: #437 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

When I was young, I seriously lusted for a Ferrari. (Lamborghini was an upstart and I was a car traditionalist even then.) Alas, I couldn’t afford one. Now I can afford one but I think I would look like an idiot driving it.

To this day, I still lust for one of these - a Maserati Quattroporte:

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:17:09am

re: #439 Eclectic Cyborg

This country is fucking falling apart. Can’t we put Israel on the back burner for a little while?

That’s what I’ve been saying. Putin is pulling off what Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev and Brezhnev couldn’t. He’s successfully destroying the United States.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:18:33am

how to make the room looked packed:

yeah, it’s gonna be a shitshow

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:19:41am

re: #434 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’m going to listen, at least a little, just to see what kind of mind-bendingly stupid and disgusting assertions escape his piehole this time. How low will he go? There is no bottom. The only solution is to inaugurate another President on January 21, 2021.

President Trump Delivers Remarks at the American Veterans 75th National Convention
://[Embedded content]

“Good morning, er, afternoon to our great American veterans! Great guys, all of you. That’s why you invited me. I see we have some veterans of the Bataan Death March here. As my friend Abe tells me, the Japanese have always been big on group exercise, always. Glad you made it even though you would have been better off not getting captured.” ///////

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CarolJ  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:20:32am

re: #435 Skip Intro

A Democrat that crazy would never have made it to the nomination. We police our own pretty well if for no other reason that lives depend on our guy/gal being sane.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:21:42am

I mean, really, so many empty chairs!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:22:13am

re: #445 Backwoods_Sleuth

I mean, really, so many empty chairs!

Paging Clint Eastwood…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:22:19am

re: #444 CarolJ

A Democrat that crazy would never have made it to the nomination. We police our own pretty well if for no other reason that lives depend on our guy/gal being sane.

That won’t stop Republicans from pouring cash into Williamson’s and Tulsi’s campaign.

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Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:22:30am

re: #445 Backwoods_Sleuth

I mean, really, so many empty chairs!

Gosh, I wonder who he’s going to be talking about?

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gocart mozart  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:23:12am

re: #368 The Pie Overlord!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:23:15am

re: #448 Skip Intro

Gosh, I wonder who he’s going to be talking about?

looks like the veterans have better things to do today.

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Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:23:36am

re: #447 Joe Bacon 🌹

I still don’t understand how Williamson is even in the running.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:24:32am

re: #451 Skip Intro

I still don’t understand how Williamson is even in the running.

I blame the Internet.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:25:00am

Jennifer Rubin goes on a deservedly vicious attack on Trump and BSRNC cuts her off…

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Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:25:29am

re: #450 Backwoods_Sleuth

looks like the veterans have better things to do today.

Where I live they’re trying to find places they can afford to live and doctors to treat them, since there are few to none VA services available here.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:25:35am

re: #438 Dr Lizardo

Hopefully, but I’d still imagine that a set of spark plugs for a Lamborghini would set you back a month’s pay. From what I recall, Lambo parts are notoriously expensive.

Luckily, today you don’t need to replace plugs every 3000 miles. Wasn’t there a Mustang back int he late 60s with an engine so big they had to lift it out to reach the plugs on the back two cylinders?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:25:54am
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Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:25:57am

re: #452 Eclectic Cyborg

I blame the Internet.

I had never heard of her before.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:26:30am

re: #451 Skip Intro

I still don’t understand how Williamson is even in the running.

What do you have against Aquarian-Americans?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:26:49am

Sometimes for a fraction of a second I will think that I might be over-doing the Trump bashing, since he is such an easy target. Then I see what he is doing and think, nah, run that son of a bitch into the ground.

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Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:27:06am

re: #458 Decatur Deb

What do you have against Aquarian-Americans?

Nothing. I’m one myself. Should I run? I think there’s still time.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:27:07am

re: #433 Blind Frog Belly White

What, did they all grow up watching Miami Vice?

BTW, on the plus side, now that they’re built by Audi, Lambos actually work reliably.

They all grew up with posters of Ferraris, Lambos and Ducatis on their walls.

It’s not that the cars are any good. It’s that they are EXPENSIVE. A Ferrari’s actual cost of manufacturing is about $75K. But it’s priced at $500K.

Insecure little man-babies buy expensive trinkets as a way to signify their value to the world. It’s why Trump slathers gold on everything and names his kids “Tiffany” and “Baron” - because he’s deeply insecure and looks to exterior possessions as a way to validate that he is worth anything.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:27:48am

Just read Jennifer Rubin’s latest column. She is on fire.

washingtonpost.com

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mmmirele  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:28:36am

Last October when I was in Japan, I saw my first Lamborghini. It was parked in front of a tiny restaurant in a small town in Fukuoka. It was so out of place…

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:28:49am

re: #447 Joe Bacon 🌹

That won’t stop Republicans from pouring cash into Williamson’s and Tulsi’s campaign.

Have either of them reached the required polling for the next debate?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:32:51am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:34:26am

re: #465 Backwoods_Sleuth

That stupid fucker is always late. ALWAYS.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:36:53am

Are Fox and OANN locking their cameras on the empty podium again?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:37:15am

Trump is on with the vets. They played “God bless the USA” as the intro.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:37:35am

re: #466 Eclectic Cyborg

That stupid fucker is always late. ALWAYS.

“The General is never late.”

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makeitstop  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:41:01am

re: #465 Backwoods_Sleuth

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‘Presidential memorandum’ = non-binding, yeah?

Another little bit of theater that won’t happen once the news cycle has moved on.

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William Lewis  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:41:56am

re: #463 mmmirele

Last October when I was in Japan, I saw my first Lamborghini. It was parked in front of a tiny restaurant in a small town in Fukuoka. It was so out of place…

Almost like the Maserati that passed through here last summer. Seen a couple of Ferrari’s and there are a lot of Porsche’s around but that remains the only one of those.

Piffle. I’ll still take a nice Jag or Lotus over any of them any day. One of our guests a week or so ago had a Jaguar XE that was seriously sweet. The new F type ragtop is a beauty as well and nowhere near as stupidly priced.

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Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:46:12am

re: #466 Eclectic Cyborg

That stupid fucker is always late. ALWAYS.

Dictators always are.

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plansbandc  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:57:27am

re: #362 wrenchwench

Absolutely.

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plansbandc  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:06:26pm

re: #392 makeitstop

Nah, we reached crazyville awhile ago. Now we’re doing Adderall-fueled laps around it.

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BlueSpotinAL  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:55:21pm

re: #440 Dr Lizardo

To this day, I still lust for one of these - a Maserati Quattroporte:

[Embedded content]

I could afford to buy one. I can’t afford to own one.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:29:29pm

re: #272 gocart mozart

She’s as good a diplomat as she was an actress.


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