The Racism Connection: Trump Once Suggested Trading Puerto Rico for Greenland

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President Racist Grandpa once infamously mused aloud about how much better America would be if we had fewer immigrants from “shithole countries” full of brown people, and more from countries like Norway where the blood and soil are pure and snowy white. (Or so he thinks.)

And if you were wondering how his deranged idea to buy Greenland (a country that isn’t for sale, and a fantasy that he’s now provoked an international incident over) ties in to his virulent racism, now we learn that he’s been privately “joking” about trading Puerto Rico for Greenland.

While President Trump seemed to pull his interest in purchasing Greenland out of thin air this week, he’s actually been privately talking about buying the semi-autonomous Danish region for more than a year, according to the New York Times.

In fact, last year the President even joked about trading Puerto Rico — the U.S. territory he’s treated with contempt ever since it was ravaged by Hurricane Maria — for Greenland, according to a former administration official who spoke to the Times.

Please note: Trump never “jokes” in a normal human sense.

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268 comments

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:13:52pm

So sick of this prick. Impeach and then jail his ass.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:14:48pm

If this were to actually happen, it would have the added bonus of making all the Puerto Ricans here in the U.S. automatically no longer American citizens, and thus vulnerable to immediate deportation proceedings.

Trump jerks himself off every night at the thought of being able to round up all the Puerto Ricans in New York, pack them into container ships and send them back.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:16:07pm

re: #2 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

If this were to actually happen, it would have the added bonus of making all the Puerto Ricans here in the U.S. automatically no longer American citizens, and thus vulnerable to immediate deportation proceedings.

Trump jerks himself off every night at the thought of being able to round up all the Puerto Ricans in New York, pack them into container ships and send them back.

He probably thinks it would rid him of AOC and Mayor Cruz.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:16:39pm

Getting rid of all the Puerto RIcans would also remove the danger of Florida flipping reliably blue/Democratic, due to the immigration of people from the island that Trump has basically ignored.

Goodbye Jews

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:17:10pm

Ever notice how it never involves the wishes of the people who live in those places?

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lawhawk  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:17:28pm

Not a joke. He’s trying the Trump marriage approach. Get rid of the old and busted and go for the new hotness.

He oversaw the historically awful response to Hurricane Maria and continues to show depraved indifference to the plight of millions of Americans living in Puerto Rico. He thinks he can swap millions of Americans, many of whom are not white-skinned, for a predominantly white European enclave that the Danes aren’t going to sell to him no matter what?

Yeah, that’s not a joke. That’s Trump’s base racism shining through. It’s the one honest thing he does - he telegraphs his racism and bigotry for all to see; his base just doesn’t care.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:19:01pm

re: #2 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

If this were to actually happen, it would have the added bonus of making all the Puerto Ricans here in the U.S. automatically no longer American citizens, and thus vulnerable to immediate deportation proceedings.

Trump jerks himself off every night at the thought of being able to round up all the Puerto Ricans in New York, pack them into container ships and send them back.

Over my (unloyal Jewish) dead body.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:24:26pm

re: #6 lawhawk

Not a joke. He’s trying the Trump marriage approach. Get rid of the old and busted and go for the new hotness.

He oversaw the historically awful response to Hurricane Maria and continues to show depraved indifference to the plight of millions of Americans living in Puerto Rico. He thinks he can swap millions of Americans, many of whom are not white-skinned, for a predominantly white European enclave that the Danes aren’t going to sell to him no matter what?

Yeah, that’s not a joke. That’s Trump’s base racism shining through. It’s the one honest thing he does - he telegraphs his racism and bigotry for all to see; his base just doesn’t care.

Except it’s not predominantly white. It’s predominantly Inuit.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:24:42pm

I get so angry thinking about all this.

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:25:14pm

It may shock Trump to find out there are brown people in Greenland.

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(((Viking Sea Mexican)))  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:26:14pm

re: #2 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

If this were to actually happen, it would have the added bonus of making all the Puerto Ricans here in the U.S. automatically no longer American citizens, and thus vulnerable to immediate deportation proceedings.

Trump jerks himself off every night at the thought of being able to round up all the Puerto Ricans in New York, pack them into container ships and send them back.

That’s an interesting gray area. What I’ve heard from lawyers here is that those born before the political status change will keep it, but those born after will no longer have the citizenship. Of course, this is in context of a possible Puerto Rican independence, not a trade.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:27:16pm

Just want to point out that Greenland is full of brown people, too.

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SteelPH  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:27:36pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just want to point out that Greenland is full of brown people, too.

Shhh, Trump doesn’t know that.

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:27:51pm
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lawhawk  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:28:28pm

re: #8 Blind Frog Belly White

I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing that out.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:31:28pm

re: #13 SteelPH

Shhh, Trump doesn’t know that.

“How come nobody told me there were fucking Eskimos here?!”

(Note: I am well aware that “Eskimo” is a very derogatory term for these people , but obviously Trump wouldn’t care)

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SteelPH  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:32:22pm

re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg

“How come nobody told me there were fucking Eskimos here?!”

(Note: I am well aware that “Eskimo” is a very derogatory term for these people , but obviously Trump wouldn’t care)

Just need the big gold font.

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b.d.  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:33:15pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just want to point out that Greenland is full of brown people, too.

Well, not “full”

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:33:35pm
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Jay C  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:33:39pm

re: #10 jaunte

It may shock Trump to find out there are brown people in Greenland.

According to Wikipedia, Kalaalliit Nunaat/Greenland is 88% Inuit/mixed, and only 12% Danish/European. Cold, but not too “pale”….

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:34:46pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

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Not only an asshole but disturbed.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:34:49pm

re: #20 Jay C

According to Wikipedia, Kalaalliit Nunaat/Greenland is 88% Inuit/mixed, and only 12% Danish/European. Cold, but not too “pale”….

So all somebody has to do is let Trump know that and he’ll drop this whole idea.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:35:06pm

Latinos currently vote at about 47% as opposed to whites at 65%.

If that share of the vote nudges up - even JUST A LITTLE BIT - the GOP is in for some nasty, nasty surprises in 2020.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:37:07pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

I get so angry thinking about all this.

I was just ranting the same thing to Mrs. FBW last night. The worst thing is, after yesterday, there are still around 40% of Americans who will look at him and say, “Yeah, that’s what a President should be!”, and I just cannot, cannot, CAN NOT fathom that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:37:55pm
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jaunte  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:38:13pm

re: #20 Jay C

I’d love to hear Trump try to say Kalaallit Nunaat.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:38:23pm

re: #24 Blind Frog Belly White

I was just ranting the same thing to Mrs. FBW last night. The worst thing is, after yesterday, there are still around 40% of Americans who will look at him and say, “Yeah, that’s what a President should be!”, and I just cannot, cannot, CAN NOT fathom that.

Yep and these often are people we know. I do want to go off on the Trumpers in my life but I can’t.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:38:39pm

re: #26 jaunte

I’d live to hear Trump try to say Kalaallit Nunaat.

“canuck”

heh

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:39:06pm

re: #24 Blind Frog Belly White

I was just ranting the same thing to Mrs. FBW last night. The worst thing is, after yesterday, there are still around 40% of Americans who will look at him and say, “Yeah, that’s what a President should be!”, and I just cannot, cannot, CAN NOT fathom that.

The cruelty is the point.

White people with barely a high school education have been fed 40 years of hate and fear. They have been told they are the real victims, and that their steadily declining standard of living is due to there being lazy black & brown people sucking up all the social services that they have a god-given white right to.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:39:09pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hey Bibi, you never say anything about this shit.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:41:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:42:42pm

so, MrBWS is home for a couple of months because of a temporary layoff.

Allegedly, Duke Energy has run out of money to pay its contractors until the next fiscal quarter, or something.

We’ll be OK in the meantime.

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A Cranky One  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:44:27pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

so, MrBWS is home for a couple of months because of a temporary layoff.

Allegedly, Duke Energy has run out of money to pay its contractors until the next fiscal quarter, or something.

We’ll be OK in the meantime.

Putting him to work on the hobbit house?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:44:40pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

Imagine how big of an asshole you’d have to be to get angry when your presumptuous ass effort to buy something that was never for sale gets summarily dismissed.

There is a major distinction between a real estate deal and an exchange of sovereign territory for money. Although it is a “real estate deal” in some sense of the word, there are aspects to it that Trump simply did not find necessary to process.

He certainly deserved the response that he received.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:45:45pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

so, MrBWS is home for a couple of months because of a temporary layoff.

Allegedly, Duke Energy has run out of money to pay its contractors until the next fiscal quarter, or something.

We’ll be OK in the meantime.

Well shit, that’s not good.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:46:12pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

Hey Bibi, you never say anything about this shit.

Bibi sees nothing wrong with that…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:47:41pm

I was learning more about George Lincoln Rockwell today. He started off more fringe but started using the more familiar rhetoric we see all too often these days.

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KGxvi  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:47:58pm

re: #11 (((Viking Sea Mexican)))

That’s an interesting gray area. What I’ve heard from lawyers here is that those born before the political status change will keep it, but those born after will no longer have the citizenship. Of course, this is in context of a possible Puerto Rican independence, not a trade.

It would, likely, come down to how any potential deal is negotiated. There could be a scenario, for example, where those born in Puerto Rico would lose their US citizenship while those born stateside would keep theirs. Or those who stayed in Puerto Rico after a certain dated. More likely, everyone would get to keep their US citizenship as the US allows (but doesn’t encourage) dual citizenship (and even if another country does not, you can retain your US citizenship).

But let’s be honest, Trump doesn’t know a cotdam thing about US citizenship law, I mean he thinks he can end birthright citizenship via executive order… despite the 14th Amendment, a 100 year old Supreme Court decision, and the US Code all clearly establishing birthright citizenship.

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BigPapa  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:48:33pm

re: #10 jaunte

It may shock Trump to find out there are brown people in Greenland.

80% Inuit IIRC.

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Belafon  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:48:45pm

re: #26 jaunte

I’d love to hear Trump try to say Kalaallit Nunaat.

There are plenty of people that can’t say Worcestershire properly, and that’s even if you ignore whether the i is long or short.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:50:58pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:51:56pm

Apologies if posted.

Vdare

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:52:03pm

re: #40 Belafon

There are plenty of people that can’t say Worcestershire properly, and that’s even if you ignore whether the i is long or short.

He can’t even say “United States” sometimes.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:52:50pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Just as predicted during the election, with a Trump win Nazi is the New Normal.

Enjoy your present fascism, Baby Boomer whites. It’s not going to last.

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:53:01pm

re: #43 Blind Frog Belly White

Conservatives now pledge to defend and uphold the honor of the United Shaesh.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:55:48pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

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Same thing with a lot of these guys. You used to post Spicers stuff before he was Trumps press secretary. He was an asshole then too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:55:52pm

re: #33 A Cranky One

Putting him to work on the hobbit house?

absolutely

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:57:09pm

re: #46 HappyWarrior

Same thing with a lot of these guys. You used to post Spicers stuff before he was Trumps press secretary. He was an asshole then too.

Trump is an asshole magnet.

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:59:21pm

LOL
here’s my bio
“Dynamite’s in the belfry, baby, playin’ with the bats / Little Gun’s downtown in front of Woolworth’s tryin’ out his attitude on all the cats.

I block fascists”

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Dread Pirate  Aug 22, 2019 • 1:59:26pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:05:25pm

re: #42 Stanley Sea

Apologies if posted.

Vdare

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Not a peep from the RJC…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:06:44pm

re: #51 Joe Bacon 🌹

Not a peep from the RJC…

Or Smugface I decide who is a real Jew.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:08:20pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Have you ever heard of the podcast Behind The Bastards?

It’s well-researched and provides documentation on its website. It’s covered George Lincoln Rockwell.

The creator also created an audiobook called The War on Everything that a summation of the ways that US strains of national socialism have shaped current politics.

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:08:36pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:11:42pm

re: #53 The Ghost of a Flea

Have you ever heard of the podcast Behind The Bastards?

It’s well-researched and provides documentation on its website. It’s covered George Lincoln Rockwell.

The creator also created an audiobook called The War on Everything that a summation of the ways that US strains of national socialism have shaped current politics.

Yes I listened to Robert’s one on Rockwell today. He’s really good. Behind the Bastards imo is one of the best podcasts out there.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:11:43pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:13:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:13:39pm

IMO the genesis movement of the right as we know it is McCarthyism.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:13:47pm
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DangerMan  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:14:37pm

re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is a major distinction between a real estate deal and an exchange of sovereign territory for money. Although it is a “real estate deal” in some sense of the word, there are aspects to it that Trump simply did not find necessary to process.

He certainly deserved the response that he received.

normally when a guy like him buys real estate that’s occupied, he boots the people out and goes condo

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:14:45pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:15:27pm

re: #57 gocart mozart

If only there was something we could do to stop these people from having easy access to assault weapons…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:15:45pm

re: #59 Dread Pirate

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Dinesh seems to enjoy Prof Kruse dunking on him.

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Belafon  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:15:47pm

re: #59 Dread Pirate

No one ever took dates that ended in zeros seriously until Trump. //

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:16:11pm

Best insult nominee, Category: your momma

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MsJ  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:16:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:17:23pm

re: #57 gocart mozart

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I used to be more optimistic about the generation or sub generation younger than me. I no longer have that hope.

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:17:57pm
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DangerMan  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:18:04pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

DOJ says they use a clipping service that does keyword searches to find links to send to judges, and it just happened to come across white supremacist content.

maybe talk to twitter or FB about their algorithms
i mean they work so well….

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:18:31pm

Vote early and vote often

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:19:06pm

Not even “your papers please” overcomes the racism.

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:19:45pm

I get fan mail

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:20:20pm

re: #71 jaunte

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Not even “your papers please” overcomes the racism.

I really do worry about both my sister in law, her family, & my niece.

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sizzzzlerz  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:20:44pm

@5

Ever notice how it never involves the wishes of the people who live in those places?

To be brutally truthful, we, the god fearin’ white people of Rockridge, have never paid much mind to the wishes of the people who already live in these places. Consider our treatment of native Americans, Hawaiians, Alaskans. Of course, we aren’t unique in that aspect. The Europeans have a much longer history.

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Belafon  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:25:13pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

I used to be more optimistic about the generation or sub generation younger than me. I no longer have that hope.

The generations below you also include the Parkland kids.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:25:42pm

re: #75 Belafon

The generations below you also include the Parkland kids.

True. That’s very true.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:25:51pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

I get so angry thinking about all this.

That’s why I take breaks from politics. I don’t listen to all the podcasts or read all the websites I used to since I can’t take too much of the madness and bigotry that is the Trump regime.

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DangerMan  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:26:25pm

re: #62 Eclectic Cyborg

If only there was something we could do to stop these people from having easy access to assault weapons…

my mantra of ‘control your weapon at all times’ include any sale, transfer, gift etc

if the seller, in which i include lawful gun dealers, doesnt take reasonable steps to ensure the buyer is 1) allowed to own and 2) isnt arming up to do mass damage, then nail the seller. take his freedom, finances and future.

selling to someone with reckless disregard - someone who’s not supposed to possess or that any reasonable person could see was bent on destruction means the seller lost control of his weapon. true if you’re a gun dealer, someone at a gun show, over the internet, or are giving/gifting your gun to your kid

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:27:58pm

re: #71 jaunte

Sounds like a cut and dry case of racist discrimination to me. Easy lawsuit.

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DangerMan  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:28:55pm

re: #71 jaunte

Ramon Torres, a U.S. citizen, was detained for four days — despite carrying a U.S. passport, a driver’s license, and a Social Security card.

The sheriff’s office explained that they had a policy of detaining all Latinx people for immigration review. aclu.org ….

how does a ‘sheriff’s office” get to make that policy?

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DangerMan  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:29:27pm

re: #72 gocart mozart

I get fan mail

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i think you hit a nerve

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:30:37pm

re: #80 DangerMan

White Louisiana Lawman.

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:33:28pm
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DangerMan  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:34:29pm

re: #71 jaunte

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Not even “your papers please” overcomes the racism.

there was an Ironside episode i remember for some reason. Called “Nightmare Trip”

Ed, one of the cops on ironside’s squad gets mugged, loses his wallet then gets arrested on a misdemeanor. as i recall he wont tell the locals who he is or that he’s a cop. so he experiences a couple of days in a local slammer from a sort of anonymous point of view

meanwhile the team is looking for him cause he fell off the map. they eventually track him down and spring him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:38:25pm

re: #84 DangerMan

there was an Ironside episode i remember for some reason. Called “Nightmare Trip”

Ed, one of the cops on ironside’s squad gets mugged, loses his wallet then gets arrested on a misdemeanor. as i recall he wont tell the locals who he is or that he’s a cop. so he experiences a couple of days in a local slammer from a sort of anonymous point of view

meanwhile the team is looking for him cause he fell off the map. they eventually track him down and spring him.

Good thing it wasn’t Mark. He’d still be in prison, if not killed already.

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:39:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:40:02pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:40:11pm

re: #23 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Latinos currently vote at about 47% as opposed to whites at 65%.

If that share of the vote nudges up - even JUST A LITTLE BIT - the GOP is in for some nasty, nasty surprises in 2020.

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Don’t underestimate the stupity of black and brown people.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:40:35pm

re: #63 HappyWarrior

Dinesh seems to enjoy Prof Kruse dunking on him.

He does it because it draws attention to himself, as well as clicks and views to his bullshit websites.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:41:44pm

re: #89 Eclectic Cyborg

He does it because it draws attention to himself, as well as clicks and views to his bullshit websites.

True. OTOH I may finally buy one of Kruses books. I’m trying to better understand these nuts.

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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:41:45pm

re: #54 gocart mozart

If her father says something to piss Trump off (unlikely, I know) will he demand she drop the Huckabee from her name?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:41:51pm

re: #80 DangerMan

how does a ‘sheriff’s office” get to make that policy?

It’s called an “Arpaio rule”.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:42:15pm

re: #86 gocart mozart

January 20, 2017.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:42:39pm

re: #23 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Latinos currently vote at about 47% as opposed to whites at 65%.

If that share of the vote nudges up - even JUST A LITTLE BIT - the GOP is in for some nasty, nasty surprises in 2020.

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This is why I remain optimistic about turning Texas blue in the immediate future, rather than years down the road when demographic change makes it inevitable. Our GOTV campaign could swing the balance any time.

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TedStriker  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:42:44pm

re: #92 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s called an “Arpaio rule”.

Otherwise known as “whoever has the gold [star] makes the rules”.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:42:52pm
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jaunte  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:45:50pm
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Belafon  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:46:19pm

re: #94 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This is why I remain optimistic about turning Texas blue in the immediate future, rather than years down the road when demographic change makes it inevitable. Our GOTV campaign could swing the balance any time.

Yeah, thanks to Trump, the estimated time to flip moved up something like a decade.

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:47:45pm
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Belafon  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:47:48pm

re: #97 jaunte

Someone was pointing out that Harris’s numbers have dropped, and blamed it on calling her a cop. I think the real reason is that she just hasn’t been in the news much over the last month. Warren has been, and I think Beto has been getting all the remaining attention.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:48:26pm

re: #97 jaunte

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It’d be foolish not to vet him for VP.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:48:29pm
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jaunte  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:48:32pm

Law enforcement officers up and down are really letting their fascist flags fly.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:48:49pm

re: #99 jaunte

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JFC

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:49:49pm

re: #100 Belafon

Someone was pointing out that Harris’s numbers have dropped, and blamed it on calling her a cop. I think the real reason is that she just hasn’t been in the news much over the last month. Warren has been, and I think Beto has been getting all the remaining attention.

Harris caught my eye the other day by talking about Native Americans. Harris-Beto is my dream ticket at this point.

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KGxvi  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:51:24pm

re: #94 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This is why I remain optimistic about turning Texas blue in the immediate future, rather than years down the road when demographic change makes it inevitable. Our GOTV campaign could swing the balance any time.

California was basically a swing state until Wilson pushed Prop 187. Granted, it passed with 59% of the vote.

But since then, Republicans have won a total of 5 statewide elections (including Arnold’s win in the Davis recall election). And we have 7 statewide offices up every 4 years, plus the senate elections.

And now the GOP is in third place behind independents in California.

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:54:10pm
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KGxvi  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:54:26pm

re: #105 HappyWarrior

Harris caught my eye the other day by talking about Native Americans. Harris-Beto is my dream ticket at this point.

I think I prefer Harris-Castro. But Beto isn’t a terrible choice.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:54:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:55:42pm

re: #108 KGxvi

I think I prefer Harris-Castro. But Beto isn’t a terrible choice.

I like that too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:56:02pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:56:08pm

re: #93 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Way ahead of you

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:56:17pm

Jackie Speier calls for Trump’s removal from office under 25th Amendment

A Bay Area congresswoman is calling for President Donald Trump to be removed from the presidency under a never-before-used constitutional provision.

Rep. Jackie Speier, D-San Mateo, on Tuesday became the first member of Congress to say that Trump should be removed from office with the 25th Amendment, following his latest comments blaming “many sides” for violence after white nationalist protests in Charlottesville, Virginia.

“POTUS is showing signs of erratic behavior and mental instability that place the country in grave danger,” Speier tweeted Tuesday evening. “Time to invoke the 25th Amendment.”

Jackie Speier KNOWS crazy, psychotic behavior. She stared crazy directly in the eye and lived to tell about it. As an aide to Congressman Leo Ryan, she was at the airfield near Jonestown when the party was ambushed by People’s Temple fanatics. Ryan and four others were killed. Speier was shot five times but survived after waiting 22 hours for help.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:58:06pm

re: #112 gocart mozart

Way ahead of you

Great minds, etc., etc.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:58:32pm

Lre: #113 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Jackie Speier calls for Trump’s removal from office under 25th Amendment

Jackie Speier KNOWS crazy, psychotic behavior. She stared crazy directly in the eye and lived to tell about it. As an aide to Congressman Leo Ryan, she was at the airfield near Jonestown when the party was ambushed by People’s Temple fanatics. Ryan and four others were killed. Speier was shot five times but survived after waiting 22 hours for help.

She definitely would.

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KGxvi  Aug 22, 2019 • 2:59:14pm

re: #113 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

That’s all well and good… but the 25th Amendment’s provisions are triggered by the Cabinet, none of whom are going to turn on Trump. Congress has another way to remove a president.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:01:50pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:03:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:03:32pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

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I’m old enough to remember when some Republicans wanted to get rid of the birthright citizenship for Arnold. Arnold is imperfect but he gets what it means to be an American.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:04:10pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You don’t give a crap about Maduro.

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KGxvi  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:04:11pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

I like that too.

It would be rather cool to see the dias at the SOTU have three people that weren’t white dudes.

If Pelosi retires after 2020 (like she was supposedly going to do if Clinton had won), I’m hopeful that the House Democrats will go younger with leadership compared to those next in line

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:05:30pm

re: #121 KGxvi

It would be rather cool to see the dias at the SOTU have three people that weren’t white dudes.

If Pelosi retires after 2020 (like she was supposedly going to do if Clinton had won), I’m hopeful that the House Democrats will go younger with leadership compared to those next in line

Yeah I get that too. It’s just Beto speaks my language lol. But Julian is awesome too. I like Booker too.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:08:49pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:13:07pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

The next time I visit Jerusalem I will בלי נדר go to the Kotel & leave a note praying that the evil Republican Trump regime comes to an end. Hopefully maybe it will already be over.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:17:54pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

Wow. Love this — especially that he includes Neo-Confederates with hate groups and calls them losers. That’s exactly what they are.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:20:19pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:20:50pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:20:53pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

Oh dear God, can you imagine that animal laying on you and kneading with his paws?!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:21:59pm

re: #127 goddamnedfrank

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Bullshit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:23:24pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:23:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:24:36pm
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MsJ  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:25:20pm

This is a whole thread. Give it a read.

And these people do have a disease. No sympathy. At. All.

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:25:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:26:58pm

re: #133 MsJ

This is a whole thread. Give it a read.

And these people do have a disease. No sympathy. At. All.

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Tough shit. You support someone awful.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:27:06pm

I’ve done some research and concluded with 100% certainty that Jack Burkman is a POS.

edit. Is he doing it for the ratio?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:27:40pm

re: #134 gocart mozart

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Yeah because civil liberties suck. I want people like him to lose their beloved guns.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:32:21pm

re: #107 gocart mozart

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:33:37pm

Thread

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:37:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:41:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:41:53pm
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Semper Fi  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:44:37pm

At this point, 22 Aug 19, gotta go with:

Biden
Warren/Harris

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:47:44pm

Rallies all about wasting city’s financial resources, and brawling

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:48:20pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:48:59pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And for 33 years, if you asked any wingnut if he deserved to be pardoned, they’d lose their fucking minds about “letting killers go free!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:51:24pm

O_o

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:51:47pm

sometimes I can’t help myself…………

went into a deep dive into Burkman’s twitter feed (ratio city) and checked out his web site so you don’t have to.

Here’s his homepage image. A pic is worth…..

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William Lewis  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:53:08pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s lucky it wasn’t Texas; he’d been dead a decade ago.

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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:53:52pm

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wait, didn’t this story break months ago? And we were told by the wingnut media that this totally wasn’t true because Trump wasn’t so desperate to win that he’d seek out foreign help? That it was totally the Dems who do stuff like this?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 3:57:06pm

Narrator’s Voice: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL surely you jest!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:00:01pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:00:15pm

Borowitz:
Trump’s Bid to Become Born-Again Fails as Jesus Turns Down Friend Request

The billionaire Donald J. Trump’s bid to become a born-again Christian failed over the weekend after Jesus Christ turned down his friend request, campaign officials have acknowledged.

Jesus, who has not generally been active on Facebook, made a rare appearance on the social network on Monday to announce His decision to ignore the presumptive Republican nominee’s request for a personal relationship with Him.

In a brief post, Jesus offered the following explanation: “Just everything.”

The turndown from Jesus Christ, the inspiration behind one of the world’s most prominent religions, caps what has been a tough month for the Trump campaign.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:01:13pm

From the guy who wants you to believe that he is “The Chosen One” & “The Second Coming”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:02:45pm

re: #153 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:03:52pm
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MsJ  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:10:00pm

re: #156 gocart mozart

Prescient?

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:12:12pm

re: #157 MsJ
Also prescient. Look at the date

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:17:46pm

LOL…it’s reality shows all the way down…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:24:00pm

re: #150 Targetpractice

Wait, didn’t this story break months ago? And we were told by the wingnut media that this totally wasn’t true because Trump wasn’t so desperate to win that he’d seek out foreign help? That it was totally the Dems who do stuff like this?

Rudy pretty much just now confirmed it

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SteelPH  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:26:20pm

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rudy pretty much just now confirmed it

Not even bothering to try hiding it.
Then again, he probably feels like there’s no consequence for it now.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:27:55pm

I’m not going to get my hopes up, but these are good numbers!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:31:32pm

re: #161 SteelPH

Not even bothering to try hiding it.
Then again, he probably feels like there’s no consequence for it now.

up is down

through the looking glass

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:33:27pm

fucking clueless

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(((Viking Sea Mexican)))  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:34:14pm

re: #38 KGxvi

It would, likely, come down to how any potential deal is negotiated. There could be a scenario, for example, where those born in Puerto Rico would lose their US citizenship while those born stateside would keep theirs. Or those who stayed in Puerto Rico after a certain dated. More likely, everyone would get to keep their US citizenship as the US allows (but doesn’t encourage) dual citizenship (and even if another country does not, you can retain your US citizenship).

But let’s be honest, Trump doesn’t know a cotdam thing about US citizenship law, I mean he thinks he can end birthright citizenship via executive order… despite the 14th Amendment, a 100 year old Supreme Court decision, and the US Code all clearly establishing birthright citizenship.

That is right. And the Republican trained monkeys in Congress will push for it.

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fern01  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:35:41pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

so, MrBWS is home for a couple of months because of a temporary layoff.

Allegedly, Duke Energy has run out of money to pay its contractors until the next fiscal quarter, or something.

We’ll be OK in the meantime.

Perchance the government hasn’t paid them for work done?

Hope you enjoy the time off and do all the things we never seem to get time to do.

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MsJ  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:36:03pm
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retired cynic  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:41:28pm

Greg Abbott Did It

juanitajean.com

Governor Abbott Sent Out a Racist, Anti-Latino, and Anti-Immigrant Fundraising Letter One Day Before El Paso Terrorist Attack

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fern01  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:42:20pm

re: #40 Belafon

There are plenty of people that can’t say Worcestershire properly, and that’s even if you ignore whether the i is long or short.

The names of British towns/counties are a law unto themselves with pronounciation - Berkshire, Edinburgh, Leicester etc

Most of the people who get these names incorrect aren’t the President of the USA - I remember that President Obama used to pay special attention to pronouncing foreign names and places correctly.

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MsJ  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:42:23pm
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mmmirele  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:43:05pm

re: #53 The Ghost of a Flea

Have you ever heard of the podcast Behind The Bastards?

It’s well-researched and provides documentation on its website. It’s covered George Lincoln Rockwell.

The creator also created an audiobook called The War on Everything that a summation of the ways that US strains of national socialism have shaped current politics.

WOW. I’m thinking about driving up to Vegas just to get out of town for the weekend, was thinking about some driving listening, and this more than meets the requirements. Why, they’ve got QAnon, Jim Humble and bleach, Payday loan industry, Jacob Wohl, Gary Young (“Young Living” MLM) and the death of his child, Bashar al Assad, L Ron Hubbard, Goat Testicle Doctor…and that’s just from May until now and doesn’t include everything.

behindthebastards.com

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plansbandc  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:44:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:45:42pm

re: #168 retired cynic

Greg Abbott Did It

juanitajean.com

Abbott makes GW Bush look like a bleeding heart.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:46:12pm

re: #166 fern01

Perchance the government hasn’t paid them for work done?

Hope you enjoy the time off and do all the things we never seem to get time to do.

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fern01  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:46:40pm

re: #49 gocart mozart

Just tried to find out the party for Josh Duvall - do they try and confuse - web site is red and blue - zero mention anywhere that he is a RW tool. Republicans only win when they cheat and lie.

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plansbandc  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:46:56pm

re: #53 The Ghost of a Flea

Faithful listener. I like Robert. He does great research and he presents the material in a very listenable way. Quite disturbing but educational.

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plansbandc  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:50:04pm

re: #71 jaunte

JFC

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:52:09pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:52:17pm

re: #165 (((Viking Sea Mexican)))

That is right. And the Republican trained monkeys in Congress will push for it.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:54:44pm

re: #168 retired cynic

Greg Abbott Did It

juanitajean.com

That has been the GOP playbook; I know it is in Kentucky, where Bevin is running against “sanctuary cities” even though there are none here.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:56:17pm

re: #176 plansbandc

Faithful listener. I like Robert. He does great research and he presents the material in a very listenable way. Quite disturbing but educational.

He’s a great researcher and storyteller. I’m never bored. Plus his guests are good too. He’s never condescending too.

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mmmirele  Aug 22, 2019 • 4:56:39pm

re: #97 jaunte

Ascension Parish has a 287(g) agreement with ICE, which means: Through the 287(g) program, state and local police officers collaborate with the federal government to enforce federal immigration laws. Ascension Parish just renewed its 287(g) agreement LAST MONTH.

The East Baton Rouge Sheriff’s Office recently extended its agreement with federal immigration authorities that allows deputies to check the citizenship status of people booked into the parish jail — part of a nationwide program that critics say creates a climate of fear within immigrant communities and erodes their trust in local law enforcement.

In 2017 the sheriff’s office became the first agency in Louisiana to enter into a 287(g) agreement with the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE. Now two other parishes — Ouachita and Terrebonne — have also signed on, joining a relatively small group of fewer than 100 agencies nationwide.

theadvocate.com

We have that bullshit agreement here in Maricopa County, and Sheriff Joe Asshat Arpaio used it to harass brown people. We are still cursed with it. I’m hoping a lawsuit will get Ascension Parish’s goddamned attention, because this is BULLSHIT.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:05:52pm

also acceptable if a wrench is involved…

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:07:03pm

re: #175 fern01

I think he is running in a very Dem District Newark I think. He might be a sacrificial lamb, he has fewer than 500 followers and his website is obvious generic republican bullshit but no clear identification of party.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:10:20pm
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Dave In Austin  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:11:28pm

Morona of the North…..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:11:32pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:12:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:14:06pm

re: #188 The Pie Overlord!

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Ivanka has been off communing with the wild things that her brothers are shooting.

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:15:06pm

re: #184 gocart mozart
Running against Don Norcross who got 64.4% in 2018. NJ1 is a plus 30 D district
ballotpedia.org

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:16:04pm

We were on a relatively normal process of getting Naturalization status for my wife when 9/11 happened. Then everything was frozen. But I had received a grant to do research abroad. Somehow, we managed to get a deferral (I can’t remember what it’s called, but basically you can’t leave America until the Naturalization process is complete) but she had to be back within one year. So we came home two weeks before the one year permission expired.

I went through my citizen line upon return, but she and my infant son weren’t getting through. So I went to the area behind the line she was in and saw her crying, and so I approached. The officer at customs was yelling at her: “why did you leave the country?”

It was fucking written on a document stapled into her passport: May leave for one year. We were out for about 350 days of the year.

To this day i could probably recall that fucker’s face. I approached and intervened to explain. He huffed and puffed. I probably wasn’t supposed to do it, but he quickly relented and she and my son got through.

Now I’m worried about her leaving again, though I shouldn’t. She’s thinking of citizenship, but she has some money in her country’s welfare system like social security pension that she’d like to have, but can’t if she renounces her citizenship (she thinks I’m going to die on her! Ha!).

Now I have to worry again….

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MsJ  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:16:27pm

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fucking guy’s getting paid six figures. GAH!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:18:00pm
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MsJ  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:22:57pm

FUN?

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Decatur Deb  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:24:03pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

so, MrBWS is home for a couple of months because of a temporary layoff.

Allegedly, Duke Energy has run out of money to pay its contractors until the next fiscal quarter, or something.

We’ll be OK in the meantime.

We can assume Duke consulted with the freakn’ hurricane season before doing this? The Gulf west of Homestead is at 91 o.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:26:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:27:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:27:54pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:30:10pm

re: #186 Dave In Austin

Morona of the North…..

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Mark Taylor blocked me after I said he was more than a few fries and a toy short of a happy meal…

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:30:45pm

OT: guitar players: I play live probably once every five years, so it really doesn’t matter, but I love playing on old strings. Until I change my strings, the I love the vibrancy. But then I love the nuance of old strings again.

How often do you change your strings? And why? And gauge or anything else you want to share… I’ll take my question offline while I go walk the dog.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:31:21pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:32:43pm

Why Trump wants Greenland:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:32:49pm

re: #191 Barefoot Grin

We were on a relatively normal process of getting Naturalization status for my wife when 9/11 happened. Then everything was frozen. But I had received a grant to do research abroad. Somehow, we managed to get a deferral (I can’t remember what it’s called, but basically you can’t leave America until the Naturalization process is complete) but she had to be back within one year. So we came home two weeks before the one year permission expired.

I went through my citizen line upon return, but she and my infant son weren’t getting through. So I went to the area behind the line she was in and saw her crying, and so I approached. The officer at customs was yelling at her: “why did you leave the country?”

It was fucking written on a document stapled into her passport: May leave for one year. We were out for about 350 days of the year.

To this day i could probably recall that fucker’s face. I approached and intervened to explain. He huffed and puffed. I probably wasn’t supposed to do it, but he quickly relented and she and my son got through.

Now I’m worried about her leaving again, though I shouldn’t. She’s thinking of citizenship, but she has some money in her country’s welfare system like social security pension that she’d like to have, but can’t if she renounces her citizenship (she thinks I’m going to die on her! Ha!).

Now I have to worry again….

She should wait until 2021. My children are citizens, but they are Chinese immigrants, and I worry about if they’d be allowed back in the country if they traveled overseas.

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:33:06pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:36:08pm

re: #202 Blind Frog Belly White

Why Trump wants Greenland:

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As an aside, I am really flummoxed by otherwise intelligent people who say, “Buying Greenland makes strategic sense”, as if it belongs to a government and not the people living there.

I mean, we “bought” the Louisiana Purchase from France, but what claim did France have to it?

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MsJ  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:36:12pm

re: #202 Blind Frog Belly White

Why Trump wants Greenland:

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Shipping lanes and rare Earth minerals come in to pay, too.

Personally profit at every turn.

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:38:11pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:40:32pm

re: #207 gocart mozart

DID YOU SAY MONKEYS WITH SMALLER TESTICLES SCREAM THE LOUDEST?!? THAT’S RIDICULOUS!!!
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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:42:15pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:45:13pm

re: #209 gocart mozart

“Excuse me, Mr. President?”

“What?”

“It turns out that 95% of the people we’d need to institutionalize are your supporters, and we’d need to institutionalize about 50% of them.”

“What? Nobody said there’d be math!”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:46:30pm

re: #208 Blind Frog Belly White

This is especially a joke because……uh…….um…….

Well, you older guys know what I mean.

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lawhawk  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:47:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:49:56pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:50:58pm

David Simon liked my response

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:55:48pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 5:56:47pm

Eric Holder has no more fucks left today

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:03:23pm

re: #194 MsJ

This should be run as an ad by every Democratic candidate. Play it on a loop. If you vote for Republicans, you’re destroying healthcare, social security, etc. Republicans only care about their rich donors.

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(((Viking Sea Mexican)))  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:05:32pm

The reaction of many Puerto Ricans to the top news: Trump joked about trading Puerto Rico for Greenland. Puerto Ricans are joking back.

I’ve been disconnected today, so I wasn’t following this news, but the reaction is what I expect. Among these:

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MsJ  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:07:45pm

Determined to burn it all down.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:08:46pm

re: #214 gocart mozart

What’s the purpose of this? If the issue is keeping guns out of the hands of potentially dangerous people, then why not do background checks? The Trump regime appears to be targeting the mentally ill for nefarious purposes.

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MsJ  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:11:42pm

re: #220 Patricia Kayden

What’s the purpose of this? If the issue is keeping guns out of the hands of potentially dangerous people, then why not do background checks? The Trump regime appears to be targeting the mentally ill for nefarious purposes.

Targeting those who disagree with Dear Leader.

Protestors? Dangerous. Mentally ill.

Activists? Dangerous. Mentally ill.

Disagree with trump? Dangerous. Mentally ill.

This is terrifying. They already have camps. They’re trying every which way to destroy civil rights. (Wear a skirt or get fired.)

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William Lewis  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:12:02pm

re: #203 NO SMOCKING GUN!

She should wait until 2021. My children are citizens, but they are Chinese immigrants, and I worry about if they’d be allowed back in the country if they traveled overseas.

I keep pondering if I need to escort my Vietnamese son with his mental health issues to the Canadian border to claim asylum for him there.

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Belafon  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:13:47pm

re: #219 MsJ

Determined to burn it all down.

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They actually don’t have to repeat every failed Nixon policy.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:14:12pm

re: #218 (((Viking Sea Mexican)))

The reaction of many Puerto Ricans to the top news: Trump joked about trading Puerto Rico for Greenland. Puerto Ricans are joking back.

I’ve been disconnected today, so I wasn’t following this news, but the reaction is what I expect. Among these:

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Sure, but before you get all smug, they didn’t tell you about lutefisk.
en.wikipedia.org

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:15:47pm

re: #224 Decatur Deb

Sure, but before you get all smug, they didn’t tell you about lutefisk.
en.wikipedia.org

HEY NOW. That’s my adoptive home state yer talkin’ ‘bout, there. Yah, sure, yah betcha.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:16:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:18:28pm

re: #226 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I’m glad this is bring vocalized more. Fundie support for Israel has always been predated on creepy end times bs.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:20:02pm

Night Lizards. (Aimlessly wave leg). A rock is calling me. Sleep well.

A bit of Enya

She came, She saw, she disparaged..

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:21:04pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:21:12pm

re: #228 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Night Lizards. (Aimlessly wave leg). A rock is calling me. Sleep well.

A bit of Enya

She came, She saw, she disparaged..

Bask on a warm rock, my friend, until the morrow.

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cat-tikvah  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:23:29pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

Friend of mine put in an application for that chonky cat today!
If it gets approved, he’ll be the luckiest cat on the planet, joining a household of beloved critters.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:23:49pm

re: #221 MsJ

There’s so much urgency in getting Trump out of office. Can you imagine what he’ll do if he gets a second term? I may seriously have to consider moving back to Canada. He will feel emboldened to act out if he’s re-elected.

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MsJ  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:25:58pm

Infuriating thread.

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retired cynic  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:27:39pm

re: #233 MsJ

Infuriating thread.

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You can’t make me…. I want to go to sleep tonight.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:27:46pm
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b.d.  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:31:40pm

re: #233 MsJ

Infuriating thread.

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Kellyanne is the leakiest source in the White House that the media has that’s why they give her a pass all of the time.

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Belafon  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:32:04pm
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Belafon  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:32:34pm
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stpaulbear  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:33:09pm

re: #227 HappyWarrior

I’m glad this is bring vocalized more. Fundie support for Israel has always been predated on creepy end times bs.

I can see Mike Pence’s shocked and disappointed face as he tells you that that’s not true at all.

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b.d.  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:34:01pm

re: #237 Belafon

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What happens if the red states stop shipping food to the blue states?

The White House would give them another government welfare handout just like when they quit shipping food to China.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:38:04pm

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A Mom Anon  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:39:57pm

re: #226 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I grew up with Amway and Hal Lindsey-esque Christianity starting when I was a pre-teen. I’m glad I didn’t grow up with it from day one, I’m not sure I would have known to think for myself and run from that crap. By the time I was a teen I was calling bullshit on this nonsense and that led to me being homeless my senior year of high school. I take this shit personally, it ruins families. I sometimes wonder what would have happened if my dad had said no to his high school buddy who had a great new business opportunity, we would have avoided all that crazy religion too. My family is sort of ok today, but not at all close. The end times shit was it for me, and I figured that out at the first bible study I went to based on a book called the Late Great Planet Earth. It was just dumb to me, went against most of the things I was taught. Money. It was always money, the promise of more, being blessed and being deserving for Hard Work, that you did for Amway. Prosperity gospel meets End Times, it was fucking weird. It was more than a bit cultish and very sexist. Jewish people were viewed as flawed but redeemable, but only a certain number and the rest were doomed to suffer with the rest of the godless. It was mean and not the same Christian stuff I was taught. We weren’t even religious at all til Amway messed shit up. This shit has been percolating for a long time. There’s a lot of mess to clean up. I hope it’s even possible now.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:40:07pm

re: #237 Belafon

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:42:53pm

re: #233 MsJ

I’ve noticed the “Keep America Great” campaign slogan coincides with Trump and Republican establishment of concentration camps, a great uptick in white supremacist mass murders, daily Twitter lies and cons, and a Mafia Family in the White House ignoring any and all Emoluments clauses.

I’m not sure if the USA can live through all this “greatness.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:43:29pm
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nicdanger  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:43:40pm

re: #200 Barefoot Grin

OT: guitar players: I play live probably once every five years, so it really doesn’t matter, but I love playing on old strings. Until I change my strings, the I love the vibrancy. But then I love the nuance of old strings again.

How often do you change your strings? And why? And gauge or anything else you want to share… I’ll take my question offline while I go walk the dog.

it’s gonna sound silly,but i change strings when the high “e” breaks,whenever that is.could be 5-6 days or several months.and that goes for either electric or acoustic guitar.
gauge wise i’m going thinner and thinner ,i’ll probably wind up stringing “Rev. Willy’s Mexican Lottery .007’s -.038 ” on my electric before too long.

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MsJ  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:46:49pm
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MsJ  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:55:46pm

FWIW. Thread.

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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:59:30pm

re: #248 MsJ

Won’t matter. We no longer have a Justice Dept.

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 7:00:17pm

I should block him now.

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Belafon  Aug 22, 2019 • 7:00:30pm

If you want to see a ratio, check this one out:

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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2019 • 7:02:49pm

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Belafon  Aug 22, 2019 • 7:02:55pm

re: #251 Belafon

If you want to see a ratio, check this one out:

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And come to find out he’s a Democrat. I think we.can do without that one.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 22, 2019 • 7:05:02pm

Jewish humor time! (in spoiler tags because it’s kind of long)

The Midrash tells us that two brothers lived and farmed on that site. One was married and had a large family, while the other was single. They lived in close proximity to each other, and each worked his land growing wheat. When harvest time arrived, each was blessed with a bountiful crop and piled up his grain for long-term storage. The unmarried brother, observing his fortune, thought to himself that his brother had many children who will need lots of food, while he had much more than he needed. He arose in the middle of the night and secretly took some from his grain and put it in his brother’s pile. Similarly, the married brother thought to himself that he was blessed with a large family who helped him, while his brother lived alone and could surely use more. He, too, arose in the middle of the night and quietly transferred grain from his to his brother’s pile. In the morning, each pondered why there was no noticeable decrease in his own pile, and so they repeated the transfer the next night. These nocturnal activities went on for several nights until one night the brothers bumped into each other. In that instant, in the dark of night, the glow of brotherly love lit up the mountain sky; they each understood what the other had been doing and fell into hugging, kissing, and crying of joy. On this very spot G-d made a choice to build His house, the Beit Hamikdash.

Not too far away, two other brothers lived and farmed. One was married and had a large family, while the other was single. They lived in close proximity to each other, and each worked his land growing wheat. When harvest time arrived, each was blessed with a bountiful crop and piled up his grain for long-term storage. The unmarried brother, observing his fortune, thought to himself that his brother was fortunate to have children who will care for him in his old age, while he will depend on what he saved and could surely use more. He arose in the middle of the night and secretly took from his bothers grain and put it in his pile. Similarly, the married brother thought to himself that he was God had blessed his brother with more than he needed, whereas he, who was blessed with a large family, could surely use more. He, too, arose in the middle of the night and quietly transferred grain from his brother’s pile to his. In the morning, each pondered why there was no noticeable increase in his own pile, and so they repeated the transfer the next night. These nocturnal activities went on for several nights until one night the brothers bumped into each other. In that instant, in the dark of night, they each understood what the other had been doing and fell into yelling, screaming, and a fistfight. On this very spot the Knesset was built.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 7:16:06pm

re: #248 MsJ

FWIW. Thread.

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Of course he did.

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MsJ  Aug 22, 2019 • 7:29:33pm

re: #255 HappyWarrior

Of course he did.

That thread is still in process. It’s amazing.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 22, 2019 • 7:41:56pm

re: #99 jaunte

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Ohhh shit. See if Trump is… reluctant to leave the office and the agencies back him we really have a violent mess on our hands.

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 7:42:30pm
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DodgerFan1988  Aug 22, 2019 • 7:47:14pm

The cruelty is the point.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 22, 2019 • 7:48:00pm

Yikes! Got this from a friend on FB tonight.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 7:48:27pm

re: #259 DodgerFan1988

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The cruelty is the point.

I see my niece in every one of those kids.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 22, 2019 • 7:52:41pm

re: #259 DodgerFan1988

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The cruelty is the point.

Miller MUST be held responsible for the evil he is committing!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 7:53:10pm

re: #262 Joe Bacon 🌹

Miller MUST be held responsible for the evil he is committing!

Miller, Trump, every last one.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 22, 2019 • 7:56:18pm

I missed this earlier but Trump bragged that victims of mass shootings love him. All that crap about how Obama was a narcissist and this shithead.

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2019 • 7:56:35pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 22, 2019 • 8:09:21pm

Home from the ISS

Facebook Post

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Aug 22, 2019 • 8:16:13pm

re: #265 gocart mozart

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“The filing argues that the Department of Justice is attempting to limit congressional oversight by not releasing the tax returns to the committee and that sustaining this denial of the tax returns based on these claims is unlawful and would “allow Executive Branch agencies to disregard all manner of Congressional requests for information—requests that, for two centuries, have been regarded as within the heartland of Congress’s legislative and investigatory powers.”

Barr’s response: “Well, duh.”

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2019 • 8:34:10pm

re: #250 gocart mozart

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I should block him now.

It is a Sergei. You should have blocked immediately and never responded.


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