Acoustic Excellence: Mandolin Orange, NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert

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Watch Mandolin Orange play “Golden Embers”, “The Wolves” and “Wildfire” at the Tiny Desk.

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Aug. 23, 2019 | Bob Boilen — Andrew Marlin and Emily Frantz made everything seem so easy, pulling a few acoustic instruments out of their car and, in no time, huddling around a single microphone behind the Tiny Desk. With that, Mandolin Orange was ready.

Emily bowed her fiddle while Andrew strummed a guitar and sang about his mom being carried away in a hearse. “Golden Embers” is the lead-off track to Mandolin Orange’s 2019 album Tides of a Teardrop. This song shines a light on the darkness that fell on Andrew’s family when he was 18.

Now ten years into playing together, this couple from Chapel Hill has a family of their own and recently released their sixth album. The two of them sing and play in such complementary ways; it’s heartwarming to watch the ease with which they perform and harmonize. Their second song at the Tiny Desk, “The Wolves,” is a story song that, for me, tells a tale on an older woman’s life, the “hard road” she’s taken and that feeling of wanting to howl at the moon when all is finally right.

There is joy and thoughtfulness in the music of Mandolin Orange. The duo’s set ends on the thoughtful side with “Wildfire,” a fan favorite from their 2016 album Blindfaller. It’s a song with a wish that the Civil War would have left racism to rot on the battlefield, and yet it still rages like “wildfire.” It’s a sobering message presented with a gentle tone, a tone that instilled hope inside of me — hope that we may all learn the lessons of history and rise above them.

SET LIST
“Golden Embers”
“The Wolves”
“Wildfire”

MUSICIANS
Andrew Marlin: mandolin, guitar, vocals; Emily Frantz: fiddle, guitar, vocals

CREDITS
Producers: Bob Boilen, Morgan Noelle Smith; Creative Director: Bob Boilen; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Beck Harlan, CJ Riculan; Associate Producer: Bobby Carter; Production Assistant: Paul Georgoulis; Photo: Shuran Huang/NPR

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:13:09pm
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:14:53pm
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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:22:07pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:23:08pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:27:13pm

re: #3 lawhawk

Politicians willing to toss out an F-bomb when the occasion calls for it absolutely have my heart. Show some fucking emotion from time to time. I, for one, do NOT welcome our robot overlords.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:33:33pm

re: #5 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Politicians willing to toss out an F-bomb when the occasion calls for it absolutely have my heart. Show some fucking emotion from time to time. I, for one, do NOT welcome our robot overlords.

President Andrew Johnson once told a heckler to go fuck himself when the oaf interrupted a speech Johnson was giving in the midwest. The newspapers reported only that Johnson’s language had “lacked dignity and taste,” but several private letters and diaries attest to his real words.

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BigPapa  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:34:44pm

re: #4 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

‘Disease of the Arab Mind’ totally does not sound racist AF.

Likewise, the ‘Disease of the White Mind’ doesn’t sound racist AF.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:40:44pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:43:29pm

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:43:46pm

I truly fear what tomorrow will bring in Texas since the assholes in the legislature passed a bill allowing open carry in churches.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:44:07pm
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jaunte  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:44:21pm

Trump dupes the press about passing gun laws—again
Eric Boehlert 8-21-2019

“…The New York Times actually suggested Trump opted to side with his “populist white and working-class political base,” and do nothing on passing any gun laws. What the Times conveniently omitted was the fact that Trump’s base supports passing new gun laws. We know that because polling confirms over and over that basically everyone in America is in favor of passing new gun laws. It’s truly astonishing how reporters ignore this key fact in order to portray Trump as being super-savvy and doubling down with his supporters.

And that raises the question: Are reporters and editors being duped, or are they willingly playing roles in this national charade, which revolves around the specific topic of guns? But the larger issue remains the media’s senseless normalization of Trump. Indeed, this is one of the inevitable results when newsrooms won’t identify Trump as the compulsive liar that he is: Journalists then have to scramble to concoct reasons for why his policies change. Trump has been lying about his support for gun legislation for years. But because the press won’t state the obvious truth, he gets to do it over and over and journalists play along, pretending that maybe this time things will work out differently.”
dailykos.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:44:32pm

re: #10 Joe Bacon 🌹

I truly fear what tomorrow will bring in Texas since the assholes in the legislature passed a bill allowing open carry in churches.

A lot of sermons brought by ministers with AR-15s slung over their shoulders.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:45:26pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:48:24pm

re: #13 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

A lot of sermons brought by ministers with AR-15s slung over their shoulders.

Yes.

Just the thought of J0el 0$teen preaching with an AR-15 slung over his back.

But I fear someone going into Rev Jakes church and opening fire…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:49:18pm

re: #15 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes.

Just the thought of J0el 0$teen preaching with an AR-15 slung over his back.

But I fear someone going into Rev Jakes church and opening fire…

I fear it too. But there’s always a rousing refrain of, “Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition,” as they’re carrying away the bodies.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:49:31pm

re: #3 lawhawk
#thisisfuckedup

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:52:31pm

I’m a native Texan; I’ve lived here all my life. Let me tell y’all something: This “good guy with a gun” narrative is utter bullshit, and these gun people are total pussies. The cops in this state DO NOT WANT THESE YAHOOS DOING THEIR JOBS. It makes their jobs harder. I have talked to countless law enforcement officers, and NOT ONE has ever told me that they want citizens involved in these incidents.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:56:12pm

COPS ARE TRAINED FOR THESE INCIDENTS, NOT GUN-TOTING, SMALL-PEE PEE CITIZENS.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 31, 2019 • 5:58:51pm

re: #19 Ace Rothstein

COPS ARE TRAINED FOR THESE INCIDENTS, NOT GUN-TOTING, SMALL-PEE PEE CITIZENS.

But what if the civilians were all trained? What then, huh? CHECKMATE, LIBTARD!!! WE ALL NEED MANDATORY GUN TRAINING LIKE SWITZERLAND!!!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:00:33pm

re: #18 Ace Rothstein

I’m a native Texan; I’ve lived here all my life. Let me tell y’all something: This “good guy with a gun” narrative is utter bullshit, and these gun people are total pussies. The cops in this state DO NOT WANT THESE YAHOOS DOING THEIR JOBS. It makes their jobs harder. I have talked to countless law enforcement officers, and NOT ONE has ever told me that they want citizens involved in these incidents.

During the first modern mass shooting, the Texas Tower sniper incident in 1966, dozens of helpful yokels took their rifles out of their cars and banged away vaguely in the direction of the shooter. This materially hampered the law enforcement and emergency response effort since, for all anyone knew, these characters were either the sniper himself or accomplices. It has never been proven that any casualties resulted from “citizen intervention” but it is a good possibility in several cases. No one, of course, came close to hitting the sniper.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:00:35pm

re: #13 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

A lot of sermons brought by ministers with AR-15s slung over their shoulders.

PREACHER ACCIDENTALLY FIRES GUN IN CHURCH, THREE CHOIR MEMBERS WOUNDED

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:02:50pm

re: #22 Eclectic Cyborg

PREACHER ACCIDENTALLY FIRES GUN IN CHURCH, THREE CHOIR MEMBERS WOUNDED

Coincidentally, the three choir members he was suspected of sleeping with on the side.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:08:13pm

Earlier today:

Resting
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:11:12pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:11:20pm
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BigPapa  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:11:33pm

Geez these kids are mad crazy talented and a little zany.

F it up - Louis Cole (Live Sesh)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:12:56pm

Was the West Texas shooter trying to beat the rush?

West Texas shooting occurred one day before new state laws easing gun restrictions take effect

The shootings in West Texas took place a day before a series of new state laws easing gun restrictions were set to take effect.

The new laws were passed in August and will go into effect Sunday, September 1.

Among the new laws:

House Bill 1143 says a school district cannot prohibit licensed gun owners, including school employees, from storing a firearm or ammunition in a locked vehicle on a school parking lot — provided they are not in plain view.
Senate Bill 535 clarifies the possession of firearms at churches, synagogues or other places of worship. It allows licensed handgun owners to legally carry their weapons in places of worship.
House Bill 1387 loosens restrictions on how many armed school marshals a school district can appoint.
House Bill 302 bans homeowners or landlords of rental property from prohibiting residents from lawfully possessing, carrying, transporting or storing a firearm or ammunition on the property.
House Bill 1177 prohibits residents from being charged with a crime for carrying a handgun while evacuating from a state or local disaster area.
House Bill 2363 allows some foster homes to store firearms and ammunition in a safe, locked and secure place for personal protection.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:13:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:15:22pm
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Belafon  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:16:51pm

re: #27 BigPapa

i knew I remembered that one: littlegreenfootballs.com.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:18:47pm

So wouldn’t next year’s G7 hosted by America happen during hurricane season?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:20:04pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:22:01pm

He blocked me before I could post the 2017 FBI report. 2018 hasn’t been finalized yet. Someone want to take one for the team and call him out?

Report:

ucr.fbi.gov

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:24:29pm

re: #34 GlutenFreeJesus

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:25:43pm

re: #36 MsJ

Excellent. ;)

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BigPapa  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:29:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:30:32pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:35:39pm

OH HAI! What did I miss by not being online? Was there another mass shooting?

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sagehen  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:36:21pm

re: #40 The Pie Overlord!

OH HAI! What did I miss by not being online? Was there another mass shooting?

Two.

Both in Texas.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:36:27pm

re: #40 The Pie Overlord!

Yes. Unfortunately. :(

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Dread Pirate  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:37:56pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:38:58pm

re: #38 BigPapa

Wow, love it

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:39:02pm

re: #40 The Pie Overlord!

OH HAI! What did I miss by not being online? Was there another mass shooting?

babby news downstairs!
#119

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:40:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:41:23pm
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DodgerFan1988  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:44:15pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:48:55pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

babby news downstairs!
#119

Congratulations on that li’l cutie!

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jaunte  Aug 31, 2019 • 6:51:12pm
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MsJ  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:12:29pm

re: #48 DodgerFan1988

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jaunte  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:13:47pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:17:17pm
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PhillyPretzel  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:21:57pm

OT Charles I just gave LGF $60 for another year of ad free access.

I used my name instead of Philly Pretzel.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:29:57pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:32:50pm

re: #54 PhillyPretzel

Re-upping you now! Thanks!

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retired cynic  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:33:03pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I know someone has pinned that down to which satellite and when, but my first feeling was that it was captured from an Iranian aerial shot, since it had the Iranian letters written on it.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:35:40pm

re: #53 teleskiguy

This came out after her series of tweets so she wouldn’t have picked it up yet:

WATCH: Beto O’Rourke drops the f-bomb in angry reaction to latest mass shooting in Texas

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:36:22pm
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jaunte  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:37:54pm

re: #58 Belafon

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jaunte  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:39:18pm

This is the fucked up part.

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Interesting Times  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:41:20pm
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MsJ  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:41:34pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:41:49pm

The massacre in West Texas has all the hallmarks of a sovereign citizen who got cornered by the cops.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:43:59pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

Thanks Charles. It is showing in my account. This is one of the few places I can go to and have an intelligent conversation about politics and how crazy DT really is without being called disloyal or something worse.

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:44:14pm

re: #64 teleskiguy

The massacre in West Texas has all the hallmarks of a sovereign citizen who got cornered by the cops.

That’s what my husband said.

To me, it’s someone with an outstanding felony warrant.

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calochortus  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:44:19pm

re: #63 MsJ

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I can “see” both, but very few rabbits have feathers, so I’m going with raven.

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:45:43pm

re: #67 calochortus

I can “see” both, but very few rabbits have feathers, so I’m going with raven.

I definitely see a Raven. But I can see the perspective of the rabbit.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:48:19pm

If you know Invader Zim and Steven Universe:

Steven Universe - Rock Invader

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cat-tikvah  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:50:16pm

re: #52 jaunte

I’m determined to help oust Collins. She’s a fraud and needs to go.

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jaunte  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:51:05pm

NRA and friends profiting from mass shootings.
Purdue Pharma, Johnson & Johnson and associates profiting from opioid murder-suicide.
The wealthy and powerful in America are looking more and more like the post- apocalyptic cannibals of Cormac McCarthy’s The Road.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:51:27pm

re: #52 jaunte

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Issakson needs to be added to that GOP list to make it 23. If a party ever deserved to be wiped out at the ballot box it the totally corrupted RepubliKKKlan Party!

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:52:36pm

Texas has a history of crazy sovereign citizens. One guy and his family defied the government and got away with it.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:53:03pm

re: #20 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

But what if the civilians were all trained? What then, huh? CHECKMATE, LIBTARD!!! WE ALL NEED MANDATORY GUN TRAINING LIKE SWITZERLAND!!!

Narrator: GOP passes laws eliminating the requirement to get a license or any training at all to carry concealed weapons.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:56:17pm

re: #34 GlutenFreeJesus

He blocked me before I could post the 2017 FBI report. 2018 hasn’t been finalized yet. Someone want to take one for the team and call him out?

Report:

ucr.fbi.gov

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As Charles would say, don’t waste your time on these fuckers, just block them.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 31, 2019 • 7:56:36pm

re: #75 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Oh I did that too. ;)

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:00:27pm

re: #64 teleskiguy

The massacre in West Texas has all the hallmarks of a sovereign citizen who got cornered by the cops.

Has SMOTI published his inevitable “shooter was a registered Democrat!” story yet?

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:03:36pm

re: #70 cat-tikvah

I’m determined to help oust Collins. She’s a fraud and needs to go.

Swing Left has about six principal targets in the Senate. She’s one of them. They might be a good place for you to start. (Work is ongoing.)

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:05:07pm
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calochortus  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:06:29pm

re: #77 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Has SMOTI published his inevitable “shooter was a registered Democrat!” story yet?

Or Antifa? Or a false flag? Or [fill in the blank]?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:08:32pm

re: #77 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Has SMOTI published his inevitable “shooter was a registered Democrat!” story yet?

We know it’s on the way and will be picked up by the rest of the Republican 24/7 Bullshit Machine in a little while.

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jaunte  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:10:01pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:17:17pm
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i(m)p(each)sos  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:18:41pm

re: #53 teleskiguy

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Oh, THAT’s freaky - you’re 2000 miles away from me, posting a tweet from an IRL friend (and former co-worker) right here in my hometown. This is a very small world, sometimes.

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sagehen  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:19:03pm

re: #71 jaunte

NRA and friends profiting from mass shootings.
Purdue Pharma, Johnson & Johnson and associates profiting from opioid murder-suicide.
The wealthy and powerful in America are looking more and more like the post- apocalyptic cannibals of Cormac McCarthy’s The Road.

Alternatively, they’re all Negan.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:21:09pm

re: #71 jaunte

NRA and friends profiting from mass shootings.
Purdue Pharma, Johnson & Johnson and associates profiting from opioid murder-suicide.
The wealthy and powerful in America are looking more and more like the post- apocalyptic cannibals of Cormac McCarthy’s The Road.

Basically the plot from Hardwired minus the panzers.

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:23:06pm

re: #84 i(m)p(each)sos

@deray retweeted that, I thought it apropos.

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jaunte  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:25:21pm

Concrete poetry.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:28:03pm

They got him looking like Benny Hill!

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jaunte  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:28:46pm

AP: “A database shows that the West Texas shooting brings the number of mass killings in the U.S. so far this year to 25, which is as many mass killings as in all of 2018.”

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i(m)p(each)sos  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:33:12pm

re: #87 teleskiguy

@deray retweeted that, I thought it apropos.

I’m used to Rachel being very visible on the local Twitter scene (and very soon on the county legislature, where she’ll face only token R opposition in the general election this fall), but seeing her get noticed on the national level is new.

And I’m reminded I should get together with her for lunch sometime soon…

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Dread Pirate  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:36:05pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:46:46pm

re: #92 Dread Pirate

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We know Steven Miller is rubbing his hands because he’s so gleeful that these innocent people are sick and dying.

He must be brought to justice.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:47:41pm

re: #82 jaunte

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Hegar is my choice for the Democrats. Being Texan, my target senator is obviously Cornyn.

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:47:50pm
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MsJ  Aug 31, 2019 • 8:49:11pm

re: #93 Joe Bacon 🌹

We know Steven Miller is rubbing his hands because he’s so gleeful that these innocent people are sick and dying.

He must be brought to justice.

Gives then the chance to say immigrants are vermin who are carrying diseases.

Very Nazi.

Bedbugs, indeed.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:04:30pm

Hi.

Another day, another mass murder. Unless the GOP (and especially Mitch McConnell) is pried out of the Senate, any sort of gun legislation will die. When a classroom of first graders were murdered and all the right wing could come up with was “false flag” or “they’re trying to take our guns” or “they’re politicising a tragedy” it became obvious they would do nothing.

In the meantime, Hurricane Dorian is visible on the Met Office radar from The Bahamas. The storm is very impressive on radar. (About two-thirds down the page.)

bahamasweather.org.bs

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:07:17pm

re: #94 Belafon

Hegar is my choice for the Democrats. Being Texan, my target senator is obviously Cornyn.

I’m waiting on the Democratic field to clear up here. My target senator would be to make Ben Sasse one-and-done.

Someone in the previous thread noted that Jane Kleeb was on AM Joy this morning talking about Nebraska agriculture and politics; I’m going to go over to YouTube and (get an advert for PragerU then another for Hebrew University in Jerusalem) and see if it is up there.

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:07:44pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:08:51pm

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Hi.

Another day, another mass murder. Unless the GOP (and especially Mitch McConnell) is pried out of the Senate, any sort of gun legislation will die. When a classroom of first graders were murdered and all the right wing could come up with was “false flag” or “they’re trying to take our guns” or “they’re politicising a tragedy” it became obvious they would do nothing.

We remember when a gunman opened fire on Congressional Republicans and the end result—every last one of them who were in that incident voted for looser gun rules AFTER they were shot at!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:17:40pm

Joy Ann Reed interviewing Jane Kleeb (the Nebraska Democratic Party chair, starts at 12:58 in the video).

AM Joy 8/31/19 [10AM] - MSNBC Breaking News August 31, 2019

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:19:11pm

Dinner at Taix in Los Angeles tonight after the announcement that they were closing “temporarily”

Taix Chicken Diable with Mustard Sauce and Capers
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MsJ  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:21:09pm
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sagehen  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:23:26pm

re: #92 Dread Pirate

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Because they’re refusing to vaccinate detainees. Hoping if they don’t die, they’ll become sterile.

OMG. Is there no depth to the depravity of our government?!?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:25:46pm

re: #82 jaunte

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:29:05pm

re: #19 Ace Rothstein

COPS ARE TRAINED FOR THESE INCIDENTS, NOT GUN-TOTING, SMALL-PEE PEE CITIZENS.

Not all cops are trained for this. That’s why cops call in SWAT/ESU units that have special weapons and tactics to deal with active shooter situations.

In NYC, if you’ve got a problem, you call the cops. When the cops have a problem, they call ESU.

Cops don’t all get the training, let alone the tactical know how and weapons to deal with active shooter situations. It’s why when you see active shooter situations, you see the street cops give way to heavily armed special units. It’s as much for the cops’ safety as anything.

ESU/SWAT train nonstop for active shooter situations. Regular cops don’t.

Non cops? They don’t have the skills to deal with an active shooter situation, and simply having a gun doesn’t deter, let alone stop active shooter situations.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:34:24pm

re: #104 sagehen

Because they’re refusing to vaccinate detainees. Hoping if they don’t die, they’ll become sterile.

OMG. Is there no depth to the depravity of our government?!?

No depth to the depravity of conservatives. Regrettably they are in charge at the moment.

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:37:04pm

re: #104 sagehen

Because they’re refusing to vaccinate detainees. Hoping if they don’t die, they’ll become sterile.

OMG. Is there no depth to the depravity of our government?!?

No.

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:39:38pm
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MsJ  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:44:16pm
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MsJ  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:46:34pm

Weeeeeeeee.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:47:38pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:51:02pm

Yikes. Wingnut conservatives and glibertarians all over this tweet:

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:53:09pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 31, 2019 • 9:53:28pm

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:03:45pm

What a sorry excuse for a human being.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:04:43pm

Tomi Lahren Admits That Her Very Patriotic Leggings Were Made In China (Robyn Pennacchia at Wonkette)

The lede:

WELL HELLO.

As you may recall, last week, Tomi Lahren debuted her new line of “athleisure wear,” which she assured us were way more American and patriotic than all of the other commie athleisure brands out there. As you may also recall, just a few hours after Wonkette published my little article on Tomi’s latest venture, I discovered that this very patriotic line of $80 yoga pants for women who don’t hate America was, in fact, made in China.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:05:01pm

Happy September in Eastern and Central Time!

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:12:02pm

re: #118 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I’m on Fuckitol Time.

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austin_blue  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:12:05pm

re: #105 GlutenFreeJesus

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More to the point it wasn’t an “impossible situation”.

In fact, it was only possible be cause the shooter had high capacity magazines.

Look, there are over 10,000,000 Rambo guns out there, costing around $1,000 each. A buy back would cost $10 billion dollars and that will never happen.

Just require all guns to be registered that have the capacity to hold more than eight bullets and limit clips/magazines to eight bullets (pistols and rifles) for private possession with a ten year mandatory sentence in the Federal gray bar motel.

If you want to get your jollies off, you can go to a licensed gun range and rent a high-cap magazine and do so, just like how people with automatic guns have to do now (bringing their magazines and ammo with them).

Like my Marine daddy taught me, if you can’t hit your target with six shots, you don’t need to own a gun.

I grew up with long rifles and shotguns. The long rifles held 4 or 5 rounds, the shotguns 5 or 6. I have hunted deer, elk, pheasant, dove, duck, geese, and grouse. It was meat hunting. I never, ever, emptied a gun while hunting. Take a shot, replace the round.

When hunting deer and elk, if you missed the animal with the first shot, you rarely got a second. Birds (shotguns) often resulted in the following conversation:

What did you shoot?

About two boxes.

What did you take home?

Two boxes of empty shells.

Now, I was a pretty good wing shooter. Dove, ducks, and geese were easy for freezer meat. Grouse, and especially quail were my nemesis.

Oh, and I don’t hunt any more . I just got to the point where it lost its glamor for me.

I’ve still got an old 12-gauge pump shotgun and an old but very accurate Moissant-Nagant in a gun safe, but unless things get really pear-shaped, that is where they will stay.

But if those idiots don’t think liberals can defend themselves, I’ve got a little surprise for them. That Russian Rifle can put a bullet into a 4-inch circle at two hundred yard over open sites.

.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:15:23pm

re: #120 austin_blue

More to the point it wasn’t an “impossible situation”.

In fact, it was only possible be cause the shooter had high capacity magazines.

Look, there are over 10,000,000 Rambo guns out there, costing around $1,000 each. A buy back would cost $10 billion dollars and that will never happen.

Just require all guns to be registered that have the capacity to hold more than eight bullets and limit clips/magazines to eight bullets (pistols and rifles) for private possession with a ten year mandatory sentence in the Federal gray bar motel.

If you want to get your jollies off, you can go to a licensed gun range and rent a high-cap magazine and do so, just like how people with automatic guns have to do now (bringing their magazines and ammo with them).

Like my Marine daddy taught me, if you can’t hit your target with six shots, you don’t need to own a gun.

I grew up with long rifles and shotguns. The long rifles held 4 or 5 rounds, the shotguns 5 or 6. I have hunted deer, elk, pheasant, dove, duck, geese, and grouse. It was meat hunting. I never, ever, emptied a gun while hunting. Take a shot, replace the round.

When hunting deer and elk, if you missed the animal with the first shot, you rarely got a second. Birds (shotguns) often resulted in the following conversation:

What did you shoot?

About two boxes.

What did you take home?

Two boxes of empty shells.

Now, I was a pretty good wing shooter. Dove, ducks, and geese were easy for freezer meat. Grouse, and especially quail were my nemesis.

Oh, and I don’t hunt any more . I just got to the point where it lost its glamor for me.

I’ve still got an old 12-gauge pump shotgun and an old but very accurate Moissant-Nagant in a gun safe, but unless things get really pear-shaped, that is where they will stay.

But if those idiots don’t think liberals can defend themselves, I’ve got a little surprise for them. That Russian Rifle can put a bullet into a 4-inch circle at two hundred yard over open sites.

.

You’re revealing our secret, that liberals own guns and know how to shoot.

Since the gun shop in my town is going out of business due to the owner’s tragic case of Parkinson’s disease (he doesn’t sell things like AR-15s), I am considering buying a pump-action shotgun to replace my double-barrel.

As for conservatives, there is always a tweet.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:16:51pm

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹🎃

She wasn’t planning on being there herself.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:31:52pm

There were procedural errors. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:34:43pm

re: #123 Dread Pirate

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There were procedural errors. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

“No, damn it, I wanted a bone saw, NOT a hacksaw!”

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austin_blue  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:36:59pm

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹🎃

You’re revealing our secret, that liberals own guns and know how to shoot.

Since the gun shop in my town is going out of business due to the owner’s tragic case of Parkinson’s disease (he doesn’t sell things like AR-15s), I am considering buying a pump-action shotgun to replace my double-barrel.

As for conservatives, there is always a tweet.

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The whole concept that you need a semi-automatic rifle for home protection is the single biggest lie ever perpetrated on the American public. What you need is a pump shotgun. The sound alone of you loading a round is enough to make intruders run. Shooting off multiple rounds travelling at 3,000 ft per second will not only penetrate the walls of your house, but your next door neighbors house. A low velocity round of two-shot will rid your house of human vermin quite quickly and keep you neighbors safe.

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austin_blue  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:43:52pm

Almost 1 am. Night all. Sweet dreams. Talk atcha tomorrow.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:45:18pm

The New York Times analysed the NRA’s “A” ratings (and other ratings) of Democratic representatives and senators over the past ten years.

The number of “A” ratings has steadily declined, until their last round they only rated three Democrats with “A.”

They rate almost the entire Democratic US House with an “F.” Good, since the Democrats control the House.

Not only that, the NRA is also downgrading some Republicans to “F.”

The NRA noted that while Barack Obama was President, they could count on “A” rated Democrats to prevent any meaningful gun safety control legislation from getting through. They can no longer count on that anymore.

Of the 25 lawmakers who dropped three or more letter grades, only two — Senator Joe Donnelly, Democrat of Indiana, and Representative Carlos Curbelo, Republican of Florida — lost re-election, and Mr. Curbelo lost to a Democrat who also had an F rating. He faced no serious opposition in the Republican primary.

In fact, of the 83 members of Congress downgraded by any amount between 2008 and 2018, only 11 lost re-election. By contrast, 14 of the 31 members who were upgraded lost.

nytimes.com

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 10:56:05pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 11:01:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 11:09:43pm

Well, it looks like I killed the thread here, and I’m only writing to myself.

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2019 • 11:13:25pm
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Cheechako  Aug 31, 2019 • 11:19:46pm

Had a 5.0 earthquake up here a couple of hours ago. Followed by a couple of 3.0 shakes.
Felt very moderate here at the homestead. The hanging pots/pans rattled but the china did not “tinkle” at all. Located about 80 km west of Haines, AK.

AK Earthquake - 20190831

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Dread Pirate  Aug 31, 2019 • 11:33:24pm

I watched The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance. It was very good so I took a look at the original and Netflix has it in UHD 4k. It is one of the rare non-Netfix HDR10 movies and the first old movie I’ve seen transferred to UHD.

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uriel  Aug 31, 2019 • 11:47:43pm

re: #34 GlutenFreeJesus

Looks like he deleted the post, but I did leave this for him/her.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 11:51:24pm

Since I keep a finger on the pulse of the adult entertainment industry, this was good to see.

An adult film company acquired a Website named PornWikiLeaks and shut it down today. The site’s purpose was to expose the names and addresses of everyone who works in adult films or erotic Romance novels, including family members (regardless of age), telephone numbers, real names, E-mail, you name it.

[That Website is similar to KeyWiki dot org, a Website dedicated to “exposing” members of the Democratic Socialists of America along with their families including children, so wingnuts can harass and threaten them.]

Behind the hide bar due to discussion of adult stuff.

Bang Bros Acquires PornWikiLeaks, Destroys Site Data (Goes to Xbiz, caution for adult-themed advertising on the site)

LOS ANGELES — BangBros has reportedly acquired pornwikileaks.com and incinerated what it claims are the hard drives containing all the website’s data.

PornWikiLeaks surfaced in 2010-11 publishing performer data that included real names and other personal details. The site reportedly built its database from a security breach at Adult Industry Medical, the talent testing facility that preceded Free Speech Coalition’s current PASS system.

(BangBros is an adult film production company)

They bought the Website, then replaced the Website with a statement saying they destroyed all the data from the site, including hundreds of thousands of comments including hatred and threats. The Website will now only contain the statement the production company made about protecting actors and their families including their children.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Aug 31, 2019 • 11:54:51pm

re: #134 uriel

Looks like he deleted the post, but I did leave this for him/her.

I can see the post you responded to:

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2019 • 11:59:07pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 1, 2019 • 12:01:26am

Just eyeballing that map, the overwhelming majority of mass-shootings are in red states (especially in the South), but facts can’t get in the way of a good gun rant.

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sagehen  Sep 1, 2019 • 12:07:49am

I know I’ve posted this several times, but it’s time for the periodic repeat.

In the 1950’s and 1960’s,, about 50,000 Americans every year died in car wrecks. Automobiles every single year killed more Americans than were KIA in the entire all-the-years of the Vietnam War.

So Congress appropriated money for research. The findings of that research resulted in seat belt laws, air bags, new materials for windshields and gas tanks, stricter drunk driving limits, guardrails and speed bumps and stoplights at selected locations.

It’s only about 30,000 a year now, in a country whose population is 50% larger and people commuting much further to work. It didn’t totally eliminate all automobile deaths; but the per capita per miles driven casualty rate is down by 80%. More than a million lives saved. All without infringing on any law-abiding citizens’ rights of free movement.

We can all think of a few obvious ways to reduce the frequency of gun deaths, and CDC research could probably come up with a bunch more good ideas for new regulations. There’s no reason such proposed regulations would infringe on any law-abiding responsible person’s 2nd Amendment rights.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 1, 2019 • 12:12:26am

re: #139 sagehen

In the meantime, unregulated capitalism in the name of ever-growing profits is trying to raise that number of highway deaths.

Amazon’s Next-Day Delivery System Has Brought Chaos And Carnage To America’s Streets — But The World’s Biggest Retailer Has A System To Escape The Blame (goes to Buzzfeed, published today)

Deaths and devastating injuries. A litany of labor violations. Drivers forced to urinate in their vans. Here is how Amazon’s gigantic, decentralized, next-day delivery network brought chaos, exploitation, and danger to communities across America.

(more)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 1, 2019 • 12:22:22am

re: #79 teleskiguy

Here’s a sobering thing about a lot of your favorite musicians. The coming death of just about every rock legend

Difficult for fans of music whose energy came from youthfulness and the feeling of immortality.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 1, 2019 • 12:23:35am

So, protests are continuing in Hong Kong, and it seems, they’re targeting the airport today.

The protesters are gonna push it too far, and Beijing is gonna come down on them like a ton of bricks. It’s only a matter of time.

The most likely outcome is we’ll probably see a mass exodus out of Hong Kong to places like Australia, New Zealand, Canada (B.C. in particular), maybe to the UK once Brexit settles down, and of course, the United States. And that mass exodus would be a win-win for Beijing…..as they’ll quickly bring in mainlanders to fill the empty spaces.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2019 • 12:30:38am

re: #135 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Jesus, the idea of hording that particular data. No reason to it except to egg on stalkers and nuts.

Good.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 1, 2019 • 12:30:55am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 1, 2019 • 12:32:25am

re: #143 The Ghost of a Flea

Jesus, the idea of hording that particular data. No reason to it except to egg on stalkers and nuts.

Good.

They also had a comment section as I noted above. It contained hundreds of thousands of comments full of slurs, threats against performers and family members including children. You know, all that pro-life conservative stuff.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 1, 2019 • 12:34:10am

re: #145 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Not joking when I say the internet let all the psychopaths and narcissists network up.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 1, 2019 • 12:50:21am

re: #146 The Ghost of a Flea

Not joking when I say the internet let all the psychopaths and narcissists network up.

Yup. It’s a Mimeograph machine on steroids.

There is a wingnut Nazi (really, he has Nazi flags on the gate of his ranch) here who mails out to everyone in the Panhandle a newspaper he has printed somewhere.

It is fortunate that there is little Internet penetration in this area.

We had a problem here a few months ago when a worker in the state capitol unwrapped some pipes for maintenance and found they were cast with swastikas.

That turned into a big debate on whether a whole bunch of the plumbing should be ripped out at great expense because of the association of that symbol with the NSDAP.

The plumbing in question was installed long before the Nazi Party arose in Germany, the plumbing itself is out-of-view of the public, and it was decided not to spend millions of dollars on a project to rip it out.

Over in Scottsbluff, a number of businesses have tiny tile mosaics for the entrances of their businesses, many of which incorporate swastikas. They were put in prior to the rise of the Third Reich, and hold the original meaning of fortune or good luck.

keyt.com

In the meantime, a Nazi flag was found flying in a public park in Wyoming a couple weeks ago.

cnn.com

The flag of Nazi Germany was sighted atop a flagpole in a public park in Laramie, Wyoming.

The US flag that usually flies from the pole lay crumpled on the ground when police arrived on the scene Monday morning, according to Lieutenant Gwen Smith of the Laramie Police Department.

Shortly after police were notified of the incident, officers promptly removed the Nazi flag, which bore the swastika symbol. Upon retrieving the discarded American flag, the officers folded it properly and one saluted the flag as the other returned it to its rightful place atop the flagpole, Smith said.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 1, 2019 • 1:06:18am

The GOP continues to be surprised (Narrator: they’re not) that they have Nazis in their midst.

Our own state governor had one on his staff.

Bennett Bressman; Nebraska Governor’s Field Director (goes to Anti-Fascist Action Nebraska)

Bennett Bressman likes to “name the Jew” in white nationalist chatrooms. That’s a problem for Nebraska’s Jewish population because he’s the Statewide Field Director for Nebraska’s billionaire governor Pete Ricketts. Bressman, a UNL student, leads a team of twenty-four interns operating Rickett’s phone banking, neighborhood canvassing, answering constituent questions, yard sign supply-chain management and the distribution of campaign literature.

(more)

He claimed he only made his Internet posts on his own time, but his own Twitter account and such refute that. Gov. Ricketts says he left after he was exposed by Unicorn Riot, but he still has been seen working with the governor and other Republicans.

Can we call the GOP Nazis yet?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 1, 2019 • 1:29:45am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 1, 2019 • 1:37:53am

I’m going to go to bed.

But since I’m apparently the only person around right now, a local lotto story.

I won $2 and a free ticket yesterday.

I was in the general store yesterday afternoon buying a few things, including marking up a Pick 3 lotto coupon. Several people were in the store, and as I was purchasing my things and my lotto ticket, a few complained they never win anything.

The proprietor pointed out to the others in the store the three-largest prizes he’s ever paid out were to me. He also noted that I am the only one in town who buys tickets which aren’t the Powerball, MegaMillions, or the state Pick 5.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 1, 2019 • 1:45:38am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 1, 2019 • 2:18:55am

While Christians continue to whinge that they are persecuted …

A former Mormon (now atheist) who goes by the name Jesus Christ on YouTube is being sued by his ex-wife to end joint custody of their children.

When he received a witness list of people who will testify against him in the custody case, it includes friends and his own family. They are arguing as an atheist he should not be around children.

This is strikingly similar to my own ex-wife, who used the same tactics as a Presbyterian to remove my visitation rights from my son. The court in Florida ruled in her favour: as an atheist I would be a bad influence on my son. (That has irreparably damaged my relationship with my son. She also made the argument in court since I have epilepsy, that was proof of demon possession, and the court accepted that argument.)

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ericblair  Sep 1, 2019 • 5:20:30am

re: #142 Dr Lizardo

The most likely outcome is we’ll probably see a mass exodus out of Hong Kong to places like Australia, New Zealand, Canada (B.C. in particular), maybe to the UK once Brexit settles down, and of course, the United States. And that mass exodus would be a win-win for Beijing…..as they’ll quickly bring in mainlanders to fill the empty spaces.

Yeah, but Beijing’s problem is that the multinationals leave. The whole point to “one country two systems” is that Hong Kong isn’t just Shanghai South: the international community could count on doing business without authoritarian government interference. It’s a goose that lays golden eggs for the mainland. Once they kill off any sort of independent government, there’s no point for any company to have separate operations there and in Shanghai, so they pack up with all their staffs, and anyone who can get out does. Then, sure, you can get mainlanders to move there, but to do what?

Also, you’re probably looking at Taiwanese official independence. Once it’s clear to everyone that one country two systems is dead because Xi can’t tolerate any sort of dissent, the polite fiction with Taiwan has no point. And then possibly war.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 1, 2019 • 5:43:00am

re: #152 Anymouse 🌹🎃

It’s seems weird that a successful argument could be made that atheists pose dangers to children in a world where members of the clergy are caught molesting children all the dang time. Just browse through the Friendly Atheist blog stories.

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MsJ  Sep 1, 2019 • 5:49:58am

re: #134 uriel

Looks like he deleted the post, but I did leave this for him/her.

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Not deleted. He blocked both of us. 😂😂😂

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DangerMan  Sep 1, 2019 • 5:56:42am
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DangerMan  Sep 1, 2019 • 6:00:16am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

good grief

good fucking grief

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 1, 2019 • 6:21:51am

Hey I’m on my way to Canada! See u later!

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MsJ  Sep 1, 2019 • 6:26:48am

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I trust anything under trump as much as I trust the liar himself.

As for Facebook… Sure, Jan. You’ve been caught recently microtargeting Trump’s lies, accepted millions in ad money from him, specifically spreading proven lies.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2019 • 6:37:43am

re: #158 The Pie Overlord!

Have a safe and pleasant trip.

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DangerMan  Sep 1, 2019 • 6:38:22am

re: #91 i(m)p(each)sos

I’m used to Rachel being very visible on the local Twitter scene (and very soon on the county legislature, where she’ll face only token R opposition in the general election this fall), but seeing her get noticed on the national level is new.

And I’m reminded I should get together with her for lunch sometime soon…

Say hi for us

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DangerMan  Sep 1, 2019 • 6:44:31am

re: #99 MsJ

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How much ground could a groundhog grind
If a groundhog could grind ground?

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MsJ  Sep 1, 2019 • 6:46:41am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 1, 2019 • 6:50:39am

re: #163 MsJ

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He’s such a pathetic asshole.

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DangerMan  Sep 1, 2019 • 6:51:49am

re: #119 teleskiguy

I’m on Fuckitol Time.

Well you are an hour behind

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 1, 2019 • 6:52:01am

NHC Update:

nhc.noaa.gov

…CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY 5 DORIAN CONTINUING TO INTENSIFY AS IT
APPROACHES THE ABACO ISLANDS…

Data from an Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft indicate
that Dorian has continued to intensify, and now has maximum
sustained winds near 175 mph (280 km/h), with a minimum central
pressure of 922 mb (27.23 inches).

The eyewall of catastrophic Hurricane Dorian is currently reaching
the Abaco Islands. This is a life-threatening situation. Residents
there should take immediate shelter. Do not venture into the eye if
it passes over your location.

Hazards:
- Wind Gusts over 200 mph
- Storm Surge 15 to 20 feet above normal tide levels with higher
destructive waves

These hazards will cause extreme destruction in the affected areas.
and will continue for several hours.

SUMMARY OF 930 AM EDT…1330 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————
LOCATION…26.5N 76.6W
ABOUT 25 MI…40 KM ENE OF GREAT ABACO ISLAND
ABOUT 210 MI…340 KM E OF WEST PALM BEACH FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…175 MPH…280 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…W OR 275 DEGREES AT 8 MPH…13 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…922 MB…27.73 INCHES

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 1, 2019 • 6:53:05am

re: #133 Dread Pirate

I saw that as I was scrolling through my Netflix and wondered. I will hold you personally responsible if it is not the best thing evah. Or, thanks for the review.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 1, 2019 • 6:53:35am

A couple of brilliant and tenacious young women. Great things to come from both:

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2019 • 6:54:59am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I am reading it right now at the local NWS site. If I were in Florida I would be getting out of the area as soon as possible.

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DangerMan  Sep 1, 2019 • 6:55:21am

re: #120 austin_blue

….just require all guns to be registered that have the capacity to hold more than eight bullets and limit clips/magazines to eight bullets (pistols and rifles) for private possession with a ten year mandatory sentence in the Federal gray bar motel…

And explicitly state loss of future 2A rights.
That’ll scare em

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 1, 2019 • 7:00:02am

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹🎃

As the reporter in the video with Santa and the organizers asked (to paraphrase) “what’s it feel like to have a parade organized by three guys who can’t get laid?”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 1, 2019 • 7:03:11am

re: #150 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Odds-wise, you’re playing the game that win.

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DangerMan  Sep 1, 2019 • 7:04:45am

re: #140 Anymouse 🌹🎃

In the meantime, unregulated capitalism in the name of ever-growing profits is trying to raise that number of highway deaths.

Amazon’s Next-Day Delivery System Has Brought Chaos And Carnage To America’s Streets — But The World’s Biggest Retailer Has A System To Escape The Blame (goes to Buzzfeed, published today)

(more)

Domino’s 30 minutes or less delivery had similar-ish stories
Speeding reckless driving accidents etc
We did get to pee in the bathroom at the store 😌

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jeffreyw  Sep 1, 2019 • 7:07:44am

…and then I said, Oh yeah? You and what army!?
That’s when she snatched all the feathers off your head?
yeah
Good morning!

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DangerMan  Sep 1, 2019 • 7:08:20am

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹🎃

[Embedded content]

So…whenever he’s speaking or writing or issuing a printed statement or…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 1, 2019 • 7:18:33am

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DangerMan  Sep 1, 2019 • 7:19:10am

re: #156 DangerMan

[Embedded content]

The response to ***every**** shooting should be “it’s Mitch’s fault”
Use that pic and make him the poster boy
Lay every one squarely on him

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2019 • 7:25:28am

re: #147 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Yup. It’s a Mimeograph machine on steroids.

There is a wingnut Nazi (really, he has Nazi flags on the gate of his ranch) here who mails out to everyone in the Panhandle a newspaper he has printed somewhere.

It is fortunate that there is little Internet penetration in this area.

We had a problem here a few months ago when a worker in the state capitol unwrapped some pipes for maintenance and found they were cast with swastikas.

That turned into a big debate on whether a whole bunch of the plumbing should be ripped out at great expense because of the association of that symbol with the NSDAP.

The plumbing in question was installed long before the Nazi Party arose in Germany, the plumbing itself is out-of-view of the public, and it was decided not to spend millions of dollars on a project to rip it out.

Over in Scottsbluff, a number of businesses have tiny tile mosaics for the entrances of their businesses, many of which incorporate swastikas. They were put in prior to the rise of the Third Reich, and hold the original meaning of fortune or good luck.

keyt.com

In the meantime, a Nazi flag was found flying in a public park in Wyoming a couple weeks ago.

cnn.com

(more)

That sounds like something that would be a good thing for a historian to document.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 1, 2019 • 7:26:37am

re: #138 Anymouse 🌹🎃

So what? Democrats want gun control. That’s how we end this mass shooting crisis.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 1, 2019 • 7:31:08am

re: #168 Barefoot Grin

Oh no!! Onions!! So nice to see such comradeship among competitors.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 1, 2019 • 7:37:37am

re: #174 jeffreyw

I get mangy female robins at my feeder; no mangy bluejays.

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jeffreyw  Sep 1, 2019 • 7:44:12am

re: #181 Colère Tueur de Lapin

We see robins in the yard making sweeps but I can’t remember seeing any at our elevated feeders.

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jeffreyw  Sep 1, 2019 • 7:45:25am

I have the Weather Channel on in the kitchen, just heard them refer to Dorian as a super hurricane.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2019 • 7:48:21am

re: #183 jeffreyw

According to the NWS it is a Category Five storm.
nhc.noaa.gov

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 1, 2019 • 7:48:38am

So some in Silicon Valley want to create a similar social score system that the PRC has created.

The only difference is that instead of the government running such a scoring system, we already have multiple data sources to obtain one’s social status-just start with the big 3 credit bureaus and go from there….

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 1, 2019 • 7:55:06am

re: #182 jeffreyw

We see robins in the yard making sweeps but I can’t remember seeing any at our elevated feeders.

and by robins, I meant cardinal. Brain fart.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 1, 2019 • 7:57:05am

re: #169 PhillyPretzel

If I were in Florida I would be getting out of the area as soon as possible.

My brother and sister-in-law have bugged out from FL, but it isn’t for the hurricane - my brother’s mother-in-law passed away yesterday.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2019 • 7:59:12am

re: #187 Eric The Fruit Bat

I am sorry to hear of their loss. I am glad they are getting out of Florida.

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sagehen  Sep 1, 2019 • 8:02:30am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹🎃

NHC Update:

nhc.noaa.gov

The eyewall of catastrophic Hurricane Dorian is currently reaching
the Abaco Islands. This is a life-threatening situation. Residents
there should take immediate shelter. Do not venture into the eye if
it passes over your location.

Hazards:
- Wind Gusts over 200 mph
- Storm Surge 15 to 20 feet above normal tide levels with higher
destructive waves

Isn’t that the highest elevation on some of those islands? A few of the islands have hills or limestone rock formations with elevations as high as 150 feet, but that’s not where the buildings are.

When it’s passed, the place is going to look like Bikini Atoll.

They’re fucked-er than Puerto Rico.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2019 • 8:11:32am

re: #176 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Nobody tell them they need helmets.

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Broad With Sass  Sep 1, 2019 • 8:22:38am

re: #169 PhillyPretzel

This is why I am giving you greetings from lovely LA(lower alabama)…my sister insisted we get out early…
We were laughing yesterday when it looked like it shifted east, but now we’re thanking God we left when we did.

Now I am just praying my house is still there after the storm..I live in Melbourne

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 1, 2019 • 8:31:12am

re: #188 PhillyPretzel

re: #187 Eric The Fruit Bat
[private]
I am sorry to hear of their loss. I am glad they are getting out of Florida.

I first met the mother-in-law during my brother’s marriage to my new sister-in-law back in 2008.

I’m still pissed that *I* had to pay for my tux (I was my brother’s best man) when I did not have to pay for my best friend’s wedding where I was his best man back in the 1980s.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2019 • 8:33:04am

re: #191 Broad With Sass

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MsJ  Sep 1, 2019 • 8:36:09am

Is there such a thing as a Cat 6 hurricane?

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Sep 1, 2019 • 8:39:35am

re: #194 MsJ

Is there such a thing as a Cat 6 hurricane?

Not yet….

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2019 • 8:39:53am

re: #194 MsJ

No. The Saffir-Simpson scale only goes up to 5. This is the Tropical Weather page from the local NWS in Mt Holly, NJ. Please note the column on the right side of the page.
weather.gov

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2019 • 8:42:57am

maximum sustained wind is now 180 mph

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Broad With Sass  Sep 1, 2019 • 8:46:00am

re: #193 Decatur Deb

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 1, 2019 • 8:57:01am

Am I bad for wanting the hurricane to turn Mar a Lago and Limbaugh’s dump into toothpicks?

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 1, 2019 • 8:58:17am

re: #199 Ace Rothstein

Am I bad for wanting the hurricane to turn Mar a Lago and Limbaugh’s dump into toothpicks?

Wet and angry Florida man is the worst Florida man… I’m in.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2019 • 8:58:46am

re: #199 Ace Rothstein

No. I would like the same.

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sagehen  Sep 1, 2019 • 9:04:19am

re: #199 Ace Rothstein

Am I bad for wanting the hurricane to turn Mar a Lago and Limbaugh’s dump into toothpicks?

we all are.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 1, 2019 • 9:07:11am

re: #199 Ace Rothstein

Check this gear

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 1, 2019 • 9:12:39am

re: #203 Stanley Sea

I hope he stays safe. Category 5 storms are not to be taken lightly.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 1, 2019 • 9:14:04am

re: #199 Ace Rothstein

Am I bad for wanting the hurricane to turn Mar a Lago and Limbaugh’s dump into toothpicks?

I feel that way, too. But the American people would doubtlessly be on the hook for all repairs with inflated prices for everything.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2019 • 9:14:29am

re: #198 Broad With Sass

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stpaulbear  Sep 1, 2019 • 9:16:49am

re: #199 Ace Rothstein

Am I bad for wanting the hurricane to turn Mar a Lago and Limbaugh’s dump into toothpicks?

Good bad not evil.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 1, 2019 • 9:22:29am

re: #205 Barefoot Grin

I feel that way, too. But the American people would doubtlessly be on the hook for all repairs with inflated prices for everything.

Yep. If Mar-a-Lago got Mar-a-Leveled, it’d be FEMA - and by that, I mean us, the American taxpayers - that would get stuck with the bill for rebuilding it.

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Skip Intro  Sep 1, 2019 • 9:24:00am

re: #208 Dr Lizardo

Trump always wins, no matter what, it seems.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 1, 2019 • 9:24:21am

Beijing seems to be running out of patience.

Communist Party mouthpiece Xinhua on Sunday condemned the increasingly violent anti-government protests in Hong Kong, warning that “the end is coming for those attempting to disrupt Hong Kong and antagonise China”.

The news agency’s commentary did not threaten specific action to end the protests, other than repeating unwavering support for the Hong Kong government and police actions to end them.

But the commentary - the latest in a series of strongly worded statements from Beijing - did lay out three bottom lines “that must not be crossed”.

“No one should harm [China’s] national sovereignty and security; no one should challenge the power of the central authorities and the authority of the Basic Law of the HKSAR; no one should use Hong Kong to infiltrate and undermine the mainland,” it said, referring to the city’s formal title of Special Administrative Region.

scmp.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2019 • 9:28:16am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 1, 2019 • 9:30:55am

re: #195 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Not yet….

With the advent of more global climate change (that isn’t happening, obviously, or we’d be doing something substantial about it) I don’t see why we couldn’t get wins speeds that would hour that level. What would the definition be?

Edit- OK, the current model says no. My bad.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 1, 2019 • 9:31:46am

re: #208 Dr Lizardo

Yep. If Mar-a-Lago got Mar-a-Leveled, it’d be FEMA - and by that, I mean us, the American taxpayers - that would get stuck with the bill for rebuilding it.

“Don’t you worry Florida. Trump and FEMA will treat you exactly as well as Puerto Rico. No worries. Right?”

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MsJ  Sep 1, 2019 • 9:34:06am
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stpaulbear  Sep 1, 2019 • 9:35:06am

re: #173 DangerMan

Amazon’s Next-Day Delivery System Has Brought Chaos And Carnage To America’s Streets — But The World’s Biggest Retailer Has A System To Escape The Blame

Domino’s 30 minutes or less delivery had similar-ish stories
Speeding reckless driving accidents etc
We did get to pee in the bathroom at the store 😌

I’ve been making an effort to buy local and only use Amazon if I can’t find it nearby. Luckily I live in a large metro where it’s not hard to find stuff. I try to use Amazon’s ‘Locker’ delivery service so that their drivers don’t have to come to my house and leave stuff on the porch.

I always use free (non-Prime) delivery because I’m cheap and can wait, but I wouldn’t doubt that Amazon just sits on my order and then makes their employees rush-deliver it when it comes to the top of the list.

I like that Jeff Bezos is mostly a passive owner of the Washington Post, but the way he runs Amazon puts him very close to the top on the “Eat the rich” list. Jack and Mark Z are still above him.

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KGxvi  Sep 1, 2019 • 9:38:28am

re: #173 DangerMan

Domino’s 30 minutes or less delivery had similar-ish stories
Speeding reckless driving accidents etc
We did get to pee in the bathroom at the store 😌

I remember in the mid/late 90s when I was delivering pizzas the rule was very clear you could not say “or less” when giving a time estimate. Two reasons: one, there was a liability issue (I think California even passed a law saying you couldn’t do that); and two, it implied a guarantee. We had to give an estimate “thirty to forty minutes.”

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 1, 2019 • 9:40:02am

re: #216 KGxvi

I remember in the mid/late 90s when I was delivering pizzas the rule was very clear you could not say “or less” when giving a time estimate. Two reasons: one, there was a liability issue (I think California even passed a law saying you couldn’t do that); and two, it implied a guarantee. We had to give an estimate “thirty to forty minutes.”

The pizzerias here in Czech Republic usually say, “about an hour, maybe less”.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 1, 2019 • 9:44:47am

So, the reviews on Joker are in - and they’re good. Very good.

It’s also scoring high on Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic.

editorial.rottentomatoes.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2019 • 9:48:47am
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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2019 • 9:51:30am

Max Boot Never-Trumper says he will vote for any Democrat, even Bernie, against DT.

beta.washingtonpost.com

This is by no means a comprehensive list of Trump’s erratic and unpresidential behavior recently, but it gives you the flavor of a presidency whose defining features are crassness, cruelty, incompetence and — most of all — sheer craziness. I may not agree with Warren or Sanders on most issues, but I am confident they would not do any of the offensive and even impeachable acts that Trump commits with mind-numbing regularity. That is reason enough to vote for them, even if I would prefer a more moderate alternative. Saving U.S. democracy from a mad king matters more than the specific policies of his successor.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:01:45am
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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:02:49am

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

No one can survive that blow. I am so scared for those people!

And the whole living parts of those islands.

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MsJ  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:04:10am

Have we learned anything about yesterday’s Odessa shooter? I’m shocked that I’m seeing nothing.

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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:05:33am

re: #223 MsJ

Have we learned anything about yesterday’s Odessa shooter? I’m shocked that I’m seeing nothing.

They are supposed to announce it in a news conference this afternoon, per WaPo

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William Lewis  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:05:47am

re: #218 Dr Lizardo

So, the reviews on Joker are in - and they’re good. Very good.

It’s also scoring high on Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic.

editorial.rottentomatoes.com

It’s a remake of the king of comedy crossed with taxi driver. “Joker” is barely there from everything I’ve seen. I’ll be passing.

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MsJ  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:07:17am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:07:18am

min pressure now 911 mb

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:07:33am

You can tell he’s lying because in his made-up stories, people are always calling him “sir”. Also, almost everything he says is a lie.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:08:55am

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pinpoint eye, cat 5:

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:09:01am

Still no ID on the Odessa shooter. My guess is that the cops want to search his property without tipping off potential sympathizers or accomplices before they arrive. Some of the usual suspects think it.’s because he is a liberal Democrat and the Texas cops want to give his handlers time to scrub him from the net.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:10:11am

re: #230 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

They’re tracking down all his 4chan posts.

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ericblair  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:11:51am

re: #230 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Some of the usual suspects think it.’s because he is a liberal Democrat and the Texas cops want to give his handlers time to scrub him from the net.

Yep, cuz you know that Texas cops are in the tank for liberal Democrats. Do these people even listen to themselves anymore?

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William Lewis  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:14:04am

re: #226 MsJ

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Unfortunately that kind of buyback will go nowhere and even if passed, many gun nuts already have plans to “lose” their weapons.

No, they need to be regulated not banned just like machine guns were in the NFA using that same law. Make every semi-automatic rifle with a removable magazine or holds more than 10 rounds covered by the NFA just like full auto weapons. The next time they are transfered - sales used or new, gift, inheritance - they are registered and a tax stamp is purchase. The cost of the stamp needs to be increased to ~$1000 and then indexed to inflation as well. This will regulated them in a way that is already settled law and more gun owners will comply than not. Save the hammer for the bad apples who refuse to register just as they have done with illegal fully automatic weapons for 80 years.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:15:54am

re: #225 William Lewis

It’s a remake of the king of comedy crossed with taxi driver. “Joker” is barely there from everything I’ve seen. I’ll be passing.

Oh, it definitely borrows from The King of Comedy and Taxi Driver. Martin Scorsese is a producer on Joker - according to one joke, it was so he wouldn’t sue for plagiarism.

Nonetheless, Joaquin Phoenix is a solid actor, so I’m interested to see his interpretation of the role. Can’t be any worse than the Joker we saw in Suicide Squad (though in some fairness to Jared Leto, the idea of a hedonistic/rock star/gangsta Joker is genuinely original, but it needs the right story and the right director).

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:16:38am
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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:21:21am

Fellow film fans-UPDATE
Apocalypse Now Final Cut, just out in 4k is amazing. The story works better than any and all previous edits. LWC had pre-ordered it and we watched last night.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:23:28am
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Jay C  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:24:23am

re: #228 Ace-o-aces

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You can tell he’s lying because in his made-up stories, people are always calling him “sir”. Also, almost everything he says is a lie.

Very likely: though as far as “Trump stories” go, this one seems just marginally less full-of-shit than most.

Though I wonder what opinion Debra Messing might have of NBC’s star nowadays…

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William Lewis  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:26:28am

re: #234 Dr Lizardo

Oh, it definitely borrows from The King of Comedy and Taxi Driver. Martin Scorsese is a producer on Joker - according to one joke, it was so he wouldn’t sue for plagiarism.

Nonetheless, Joaquin Phoenix is a solid actor, so I’m interested to see his interpretation of the role. Can’t be any worse than the Joker we saw in Suicide Squad (though in some fairness to Jared Leto, the idea of a hedonistic/rock star/gangsta Joker is genuinely original, but it needs the right story and the right director).

I actually have less problem with Leto’s interpretation - it was a character I found more believable. Something about this just snaps my suspenders of disbelief right off.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:27:03am

MrBWS in Florida:

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William Lewis  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:27:44am

re: #236 Rightwingconspirator

Fellow film fans-UPDATE
Apocalypse Now Final Cut, just out in 4k is amazing. The story works better than any and all previous edits. LWC had pre-ordered it and we watched last night.

Interesting. How many changes were made? I’ve actually tended to prefer the original theater cut (just like blade runner. I’m strange that way) but I am curious.

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MsJ  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:27:47am

re: #233 William Lewis

Unfortunately that kind of buyback will go nowhere and even if passed, many gun nuts already have plans to “lose” their weapons.

No, they need to be regulated not banned just like machine guns were in the NFA using that same law.

They need to be banned AND regulated.

You can have them under very specifically regulated conditions.

You lost it? Great. You’re irresponsible, no more guns for you.

And fuck buyback at full price. Sell it to someone who qualified to own it or lose it.

This whole discussion is nuts when kids are dying almost every day.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:28:59am

re: #241 William Lewis

Interesting. How many changes were made? I’ve actually tended to prefer the original theater cut (just like blade runner. I’m strange that way) but I am curious.

Quite a few, and some help certain things make more sense.
Edit- Avoiding spoilers actually… Love to hear your take after you see it sometime. 4k or not. The story matters most.

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DangerMan  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:31:39am

re: #216 KGxvi

I remember in the mid/late 90s when I was delivering pizzas the rule was very clear you could not say “or less” when giving a time estimate. Two reasons: one, there was a liability issue (I think California even passed a law saying you couldn’t do that); and two, it implied a guarantee. We had to give an estimate “thirty to forty minutes.”

I’m a Domino’s alumnus of the wild west of the late 70s
We were actually pre the 30 minute guarantee thing

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Charles Johnson  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:34:29am
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DangerMan  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:35:18am

re: #228 Ace-o-aces

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You can tell he’s lying because in his made-up stories, people are always calling him “sir”. Also, almost everything he says is a lie.

Moving lips…

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makeitstop  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:35:37am

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS in Florida:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:35:52am

With sustained winds of 185mph and gusts to 220mph at landfall in the Bahamas, Dorian is the strongest hurricane on record to make landfall. While there were some hurricanes with lower pressure and higher winds, those were while those hurricanes were at sea.

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William Lewis  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:36:17am

re: #242 MsJ

They need to be banned AND regulated.

You can have them under very specifically regulated conditions.

You lost it? Great. You’re irresponsible, no more guns for you.

And fuck buyback at full price. Sell it to someone who qualified to own it or lose it.

This whole discussion is nuts when kids are dying almost every day.

No. The word ban is a loser. We never banned Machine guns. They are, instead, tightly regulated and almost never are used in crime. That’s what needs to happen with semi-auto rifles.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:37:26am

The Bahamas of course barely count as “land” given they are just reefs popping above sea level. As such they barely make a dent in the storm, but the storm will devastate the northern islands.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:39:44am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:44:02am

re: #249 William Lewis

No. The word ban is a loser. We never banned Machine guns. They are, instead, tightly regulated and almost never are used in crime. That’s what needs to happen with semi-auto rifles.

Yep, move them to category 3, licensing with a hefty fee , registration, law enforcement approval. The NRA hates Cat 3 as a successful example of regulation.

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steve_davis  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:44:28am

re: #2 Barefoot Grin

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every time someone mentions they have Asperger’s, I can’t help thinking of that guy who trolled the hell out of the Creationist Museum, claiming that he had “Aspberger’s by Proxy.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:44:36am

re: #249 William Lewis

No. The word ban is a loser. We never banned Machine guns. They are, instead, tightly regulated and almost never are used in crime. That’s what needs to happen with semi-auto rifles.

Hell, as far as I’m concerned we can start with Universal Background Checks and stricter safety training requirements and go from there.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:45:13am

re: #246 DangerMan

Moving lips…

Well, it’s a tweet, so you can’t actually see them moving, though, let’s face it, he probably does move his lips when he tweet.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:46:29am

I see the moron in chief is sucking the teat of law enforcement again.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:47:08am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:50:59am
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Charles Johnson  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:51:47am

And now, the fucking New York Times.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:52:35am

re: #259 Charles Johnson

Oh for fuck’s sake.

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stpaulbear  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:53:54am

I’ve been picking up the land line phone today because I’m waiting for a call with info about a deceased friend’s memorial. Just got a call from a guy who identified himself as a republican pollster who asked “Do you think President (sic) Trump is doing a better job than President Obama?” My answer was that “Trump should be impeached immediately”. It’s such a stupid question that I’m wondering if the call was a set-up for some other scam.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:54:45am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:54:51am

It’s actually a pretty striking fact that no recent mass shooter has used an actual machine gun, considering that there are many thousands of them in civilian hands. They are not rare but the supply is limited to what was on hand in 1986 so they are quite expensive. It would seem that the evil shits who do this either don’t have that kind of money or can’t pass a serious background check or both.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:57:13am

Holy shit, the ratio on this “Liberty loving conservative, Tx House Dist. 6 FREEDOM.Texas Style.”

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BigPapa  Sep 1, 2019 • 10:59:50am

while I worry about the storm and the orange shitgibbon, a little humor to lighten the day

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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:01:31am

re: #265 BigPapa

while I worry about the storm and the orange shitgibbon, a little humor to lighten the day

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and yet, i don’t find humor in that idiot father; just anxiety for that baby

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sagehen  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:06:01am

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS in Florida:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:08:39am

re: #258 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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the moron never heard the term “category 5”???

Fucking Hurricane Maria, for starters.

JFC

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William Lewis  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:09:41am

re: #263 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

That’s exactly why I say to just add semi-autos with removable magazines to the NFA list. There was much gnashing of teeth and wailing then but since it wasn’t a real ban - anyone with the money and clean background can own one - it’s always been upheld as a reasonable restriction. Even Scalia couldn’t fault the NFA.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:09:50am

re: #263 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

It’s actually a pretty striking fact that no recent mass shooter has used an actual machine gun, considering that there are many thousands of them in civilian hands. They are not rare but the supply is limited to what was on hand in 1986 so they are quite expensive. It would seem that the evil shits who do this either don’t have that kind of money or can’t pass a serious background check or both.

On top of the money a lot of it is probably just because these are mostly impulsive acts. Last I heard it takes about 9 months to process an NFA application and get the approved paperwork with tax stamp. That’s no good if you’re an asshole with obsessive homicidal ideations right now.

Machine guns are also designed for suppressing fire, so they’d just waste ammo.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:11:39am
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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:21:46am

Interesting comment section as well as article.

Jane Fonda: Here’s what happened when I went door-knocking in Pennsylvania

WaPo

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:21:54am

re: #259 Charles Johnson

And now, the fucking New York Times.

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The stenographers at the Screw York Times won’t stop kissing Trump’s ass.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:22:17am

re: #259 Charles Johnson

You mean “being a Narcissistic, Egotistical, dumbass” , right?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:23:35am
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BigPapa  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:29:57am

That eye is extremely well defined. Worried it stays just offshore and wreaks havoc for days on end.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:35:41am
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:37:15am

Every damn time.

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b.d.  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:39:52am

lol, dear Lord:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:46:38am

re: #279 b.d.

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sagehen  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:49:14am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Does the UK still own the Bahamas, is it part of the Commonwealth, or are they independent and on their own?

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unproven innocence  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:49:51am

re: #279 b.d.

lol, dear Lord:

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“It actually touched down as a Category 5.”
JFC

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:50:29am
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BigPapa  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:52:40am

re: #283 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Horrible. Has Dorian passed through yet or are they in the eye?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:53:11am

re: #281 sagehen

Does the UK still own the Bahamas, is it part of the Commonwealth, or are they independent and on their own?

it became an independent country within the Commonwealth in 1973

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:54:01am

re: #284 BigPapa

Horrible. Has Dorian passed through yet or are they in the eye?

eye already passed

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 1, 2019 • 11:56:47am

re: #284 BigPapa

Horrible. Has Dorian passed through yet or are they in the eye?

Must be in the eye. Watching Weather Channel now, they have footage from Abaco with winds and moving water, said they’re waiting on new footage from crew there as soon as it’s safe

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2019 • 12:30:56pm

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2019 • 12:33:04pm

re: #233 William Lewis

Unfortunately that kind of buyback will go nowhere and even if passed, many gun nuts already have plans to “lose” their weapons.

No, they need to be regulated not banned just like machine guns were in the NFA using that same law. Make every semi-automatic rifle with a removable magazine or holds more than 10 rounds covered by the NFA just like full auto weapons. The next time they are transfered - sales used or new, gift, inheritance - they are registered and a tax stamp is purchase. The cost of the stamp needs to be increased to ~$1000 and then indexed to inflation as well. This will regulated them in a way that is already settled law and more gun owners will comply than not. Save the hammer for the bad apples who refuse to register just as they have done with illegal fully automatic weapons for 80 years.

We can ban them. We can offer a buyback and then make it illegal to own one.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2019 • 12:39:59pm

re: #249 William Lewis

No. The word ban is a loser. We never banned Machine guns. They are, instead, tightly regulated and almost never are used in crime. That’s what needs to happen with semi-auto rifles.

And we could get away with it because there were few left and they were expensive. We also banned civilian manufacturing.

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Broad With Sass  Sep 1, 2019 • 1:36:44pm

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

This BWS thanks him & y’all for sharing him cause I know we’ll be waiting for the crews after the storm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2019 • 1:45:22pm

re: #291 Broad With Sass

This BWS thanks him & y’all for sharing him cause I know we’ll be waiting for the crews after the storm

One of my sisters lives in Ormond Beach and my father lived in Barefoot Bay before he died, plus MrBWS’s sister lives in South Carolina, and my mom, another sister, and brother live in North Carolina, so this is all kinda personal.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 1, 2019 • 2:20:38pm

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