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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:30:05am
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DangerMan  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:30:21am

“It is a FANTASTIC book”

do you think he read it?

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gocart mozart  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:32:44am
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gocart mozart  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:33:05am
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gocart mozart  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:33:33am
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gocart mozart  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:34:13am
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DangerMan  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:34:35am

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:35:04am

re: #5 gocart mozart

First or Second Corinthian?

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:36:18am

re: #1 lawhawk

That kind of sucks. Why aren’t there rich liberals willing to throw money at projects like this the way Breitbart and Daily Caller are propped up on the right?

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DangerMan  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:36:27am

someone over at politicalwire.com screengrabbed Taegan’s post about the jobs report, then reposted it as a comment:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:36:31am

re: #5 gocart mozart

Two Corinthians walk into a war….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:38:50am

Apparently the ‘meh’ jobs numbers were even meh-er than they seem at first blush. 25,000 of the 130,000 jobs were the USG hiring for the Census. So, more like 105,000.

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plansbandc  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:41:42am
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Eventual Carrion  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:44:01am

re: #3 gocart mozart

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At a local fair a couple years back I found the Donald Duck.

tRump duck at Stoneboro fair
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:52:43am

Buttigieg says ‘reckoning’ coming over GOP and Christianity

Speaking on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” Thursday, Buttigieg kicked off a day of television appearances in which he highlighted his Christian faith.

Republicans, he asserted, are “known for beating people on the head” with their faith while following a policy agenda aimed at reducing assistance for the poor and other policies he said were at odds with that message.

Buttigieg, the mayor of South Bend, Indiana, said “there’s going to be a reckoning over that.”

I rather like Pete, though I don’t agree with him about everything. In particular, I think he wastes energy trying to win over Trumpites, where I have just written them off to concentrate on unity, and getting out the vote. Even so, I think he could actually beat Trump and by a pretty good margin. Such an election would become a national referendum on homophobia, since the GOP has monopolized the bigot vote and will not be able to restrain themselves from attacking him on that basis. Indeed, it might turn into a referendum on evangelical power in general.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:55:58am
It’s good that you done that. Real good!
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:57:11am

re: #15 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Buttigieg says ‘reckoning’ coming over GOP and Christianity

I rather like Pete, though I don’t agree with him about everything. In particular, I think he wastes energy trying to win over Trumpites, where I have just written them off to concentrate on unity, and getting out the vote. Even so, I think he could actually beat Trump and by a pretty good margin. Such an election would become a national referendum on homophobia, since the GOP has monopolized the bigot vote and will not be able to restrain themselves from attacking him on that basis. Indeed, it might be turn into a referendum on evangelical power in general.

Not gonna happen.

Xtians will continue to bow down before a Golden Elephant no matter what. People will continue to walk out of churches and never go back. They will eventually wind up in an insignificant niche outside of a secular society.

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:01:28am

re: #17 Joe Bacon 🌹

Not gonna happen.

Xtians will continue to bow down before a Golden Elephant no matter what. People will continue to walk out of churches and never go back. They will eventually wind up in an insignificant niche outside of a secular society.

Which is why they’re hoping to create a theocracy before that happens.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:02:32am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:02:33am

re: #17 Joe Bacon 🌹

Not gonna happen.

Xtians will continue to bow down before a Golden Elephant no matter what. People will continue to walk out of churches and never go back. They will eventually wind up in an insignificant niche outside of a secular society.

Sure, I don’t doubt his sincerity, but I think Pete’s emphasis on his religious faith is part of his doomed effort to win over the Trumpers.

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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:04:01am

Trump is going on for 6 fucking days about how he was “right” about Alabama being in the path of Dorian (it wasn’t), and this is his apparent current emotional state: (screaming) into the void:

Nine Inch Nails - Into The Void

Meanwhile, coastal Carolinas are a mess as the storm has cut power, flooded significant parts of the states, and there’s quite a bit of damage.

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William Lewis  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:05:20am

re: #15 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

These comments are why I would like to see him as the VP candidate. I’m not too sure about getting anyone back either but if he can pin the ears back on some of the evangelicals as well as Pence and his hypocrisy, that would go a long way towards ending the monopoly that the GOP has had on claiming “morality” religious or otherwise.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:06:54am

re: #21 lawhawk

Trump is going on for 6 fucking days about how he was “right” about Alabama being in the path of Dorian (it wasn’t), and this is his apparent current emotional state: (screaming) into the void:

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Meanwhile, coastal Carolinas are a mess as the storm has cut power, flooded significant parts of the states, and there’s quite a bit of damage.

The Lonesome Rhodes Moment is coming. He is going to flip out in public!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:09:15am

re: #22 William Lewis

These comments are why I would like to see him as the VP candidate. I’m not too sure about getting anyone back either but if he can pin the ears back on some of the evangelicals as well as Pence and his hypocrisy, that would go a long way towards ending the monopoly that the GOP has had on claiming “morality” religious or otherwise.

If Trump goes down, the Golden Elephant* Cult goes down with him.

*gleefully stealing that term.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:10:12am
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Skip Intro  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:16:26am

re: #23 Joe Bacon 🌹

The Lonesome Rhodes Moment is coming. He is going to flip out in public!

You know what? It won’t matter a bit.

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KGxvi  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:18:16am

re: #24 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

If Trump goes down, the Golden Elephant* Cult goes down with him.

*gleefully stealing that term.

Doubtful. Like a bad case of herpes, they’ll come back again and again… usually at inopportune times. In fact, the way things are going, I suspect the Golden Elephant Cult is going to be all that’s left of the Republican Party in 2021 - regardless of who takes the oath of office in January.

The politically active social conservatives, especially the fundamentalists, are likely never going to go away and they’ll always play an outsized role in the Republican Party because we have a de facto two party system.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:20:47am

re: #26 Skip Intro

You know what? It won’t matter a bit.

Unless he collapses in the process. Then the Admin won’t be able to keep running from questions about his health.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:21:56am

re: #27 KGxvi

Doubtful. Like a bad case of herpes, they’ll come back again and again… usually at inopportune times. In fact, the way things are going, I suspect the Golden Elephant Cult is going to be all that’s left of the Republican Party in 2021 - regardless of who takes the oath of office in January.

The politically active social conservatives, especially the fundamentalists, are likely never going to go away and they’ll always play an outsized role in the Republican Party because we have a de facto two party system.

If so, that dooms the Republican Party. and a successor will appear. It has happened before, though not in a very long time. As Joe Bacon says, they will eventually wind up in an insignificant niche outside a secular society.

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jaunte  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:22:09am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:23:09am

For some reason this morning, in a dream I had, looking at an image of art, some men are speaking and ask “what about Quisling?”

Of course that reference is about Vidkun Quisling, who collected art (not because he was an artist but because he could pick up art cheap after WWI and the Russian revolution) before he got into politics.

Thinking back on the dream, it seems to me that Trump is infatuated with Norway because he is very much like Quisling in a couple of ways. The attraction to fascism being a central theme. Now, Quisling was much more eloquent and better presented himself than Trump does, but they are of the same stripe.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:24:51am

re: #30 jaunte

Monsanto has been dirty as fuck for years. This doesn’t surprise me.

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jaunte  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:27:19am

re: #32 Eclectic Cyborg

Dark money turns corporations into mafias, directing their thugs to teach violent lessons to anyone who resists.

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KGxvi  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:27:51am

re: #29 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

If so, that dooms the Republican Party. and a successor will appear. It has happened before, though not in a very long time. As Joe Bacon says, they will eventually wind up in an insignificant niche outside a secular society.

As long as they remain politically active, they’ll find a home, especially if they can win primaries within whatever the conservative party will be or they can swing general election results.

Ideally, they’d be a third party that occasionally wins seats but is only invited to join a coalition government in the most severe circumstances (like we see in European politics)

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Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:28:58am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:29:22am

Good luck trying to wipe out the GOP here in the South. For at lot of these folks, voting Conservative is as essential as breathing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:30:21am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Wouldn’t that be tried in a Federal court with a possibly Trump friendly Judge?

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Skip Intro  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:30:38am

re: #28 Eclectic Cyborg

Unless he collapses in the process. Then the Admin won’t be able to keep running from questions about his health.

The problem with that is nobody is going to ask about his health; certainly not the media. They can’t “both-sides” that question.

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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:31:10am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

They’re trying to break the EPA and the underlying authority granted to California to set its own fuel economy standards (which the automakers are willingly looking to do with CA).

Everything Trump touches dies. He and the GOP want to destroy the regulatory system and safety net, all while padding the courts with like-minded extremists that undermine the judicial underpinnings of the modern nation.

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Skip Intro  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:32:13am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

That’s exactly what he wants. To destroy the liveability of the planet is the Republicans bigest dream, as long as they can make big money doing it.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:32:19am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:33:48am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:34:46am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

From the linked NYT story:

The potential challenge to California’s authority, which would be a stinging broadside to the state’s governor and environmentalists, has been widely anticipated.

No, NYT, it’s not a broadside to political activities. It’s a broadside to my lungs.

The NYT is so unwilling to call out Trump for what he is, always casting Trump as some sort of sports figure simply playing against the other team.

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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:35:10am

re: #41 Dread Pirate

Nothing about this limits competition. CA has always had ability to set higher fuel economy levels than the US. It’s clear that Trump doesn’t give a shit about any of this.

Federalism allows the feds to set the floor for a given area of economic activity, but states can have a higher level - and CA has explicit ability to set higher fuel economy levels after consulting with multiple automakers who are intent on increasing their fuel economy standards above what Trump wants to roll back to.

Europe is setting higher standards, so CA is leading where Trump refuses to do (because Obama!)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:36:34am

re: #36 Eclectic Cyborg

Good luck trying to wipe out the GOP here in the South. For at lot of these folks, voting Conservative is as essential as breathing.

Oh, they won’t be wiped out, not to the same extent the Whigs were anyway. They could become a regional rump party with no real relevance to national politics.

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jaunte  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:37:30am

Trump will continue to lower standards everywhere he can, because it’s the only way to maintain a supply of Republican voters.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:39:26am
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KGxvi  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:39:53am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Trump Admin is also looking into anti-trust violations because major auto manufacturers “struck a deal” with California on emissions.

Separately, the Justice Department has opened an antitrust probe into the deal, in which four automakers agreed on compromise tailpipe emissions requirements with California. The administration is also preparing to formally strip California’s authority to set auto efficiency regulations that are tougher than the federal government’s, according to people familiar with the matter.

I can’t imagine this ends well for Trump:

Automakers want to avoid splitting the market with two different standards — a federal mileage requirement in most states versus more stringent rules in more than a dozen states that adhere to California’s standards and account for more than a third of U.S. auto sales.

After talks with California and the Trump administration faltered, the California Air Resources Board announced in July an accord with the Ford Motor Co., Honda Motor Co., BMW AG and Volkswagen AG on tailpipe greenhouse gas emissions regulations.

The four carmakers agreed with California’s clean-air regulator to boost the fuel efficiency of autos sold in the U.S through 2026, defying a Trump administration proposal to ease mileage requirements enacted during the Obama administration.

The market is moving towards more efficient vehicles anyway.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:41:02am
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KGxvi  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:42:11am

re: #47 Charles Johnson

“I said Alabama might be hit by Dorian - thankfully, I was wrong.”

A nihilistic narcissist admitting they are wrong is as likely as the sun rising in the west.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:45:20am

re: #42 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Fun fact: I grew up just outside of Stittsville. Do not recall seeing any drunken raccoons though.

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KGxvi  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:45:30am

re: #49 goddamnedfrank

“Being educated is nothing to be proud about,” he said. “It builds the ego, especially with women. It builds their egos and they really believe that they can be better and are better than men. That’s why these men who are marrying these so-called educated women, they are turning their husbands into housewives. They make them stay home, they make them babysit, they make them cook, they make them clean, they make them be the woman.”

I’m not going to lie… if I were to get married and my wife made enough money that I could be a kept man, I’d be down for that in a hot minute. I enjoy cooking, I wouldn’t mind taking the kids to school. The cleaning might be an issue, but I think I could probably quietly hire a cleaning service.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:46:08am

re: #49 goddamnedfrank

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Poor little incel can’t get laid…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:46:16am

If only someone had warned us.

Wait a minute. Someone did.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:46:42am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:46:51am

re: #52 KGxvi

I’m not going to lie… if I were to get married and my wife made enough money that I could be a kept man, I’d be down for that in a hot minute. I enjoy cooking, I wouldn’t mind taking the kids to school. The cleaning might be an issue, but I think I could probably quietly hire a cleaning service.

THIS.

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mmmirele  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:48:18am

re: #15 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Buttigieg says ‘reckoning’ coming over GOP and Christianity

I rather like Pete, though I don’t agree with him about everything. In particular, I think he wastes energy trying to win over Trumpites, where I have just written them off to concentrate on unity, and getting out the vote. Even so, I think he could actually beat Trump and by a pretty good margin. Such an election would become a national referendum on homophobia, since the GOP has monopolized the bigot vote and will not be able to restrain themselves from attacking him on that basis. Indeed, it might turn into a referendum on evangelical power in general.

This actually wouldn’t be the first time this has happened. The election of 1800 between Adams and Jefferson had a number of religious types chiming in on Adams’ side. The things said about Jefferson by the Federalist-leaning pastors would sound familiar to our ears today. In Jefferson’s case, they harped on him being a deist.

The Evangelicals need to be absolutely crushed in an election, just crushed. It can’t be half measures.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:49:01am

re: #57 mmmirele

The Evangelicals need to be absolutely crushed in an election, just crushed. It can’t be half measures.

They won’t be. They have too much power in the South and Midwest.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:49:08am

re: #49 goddamnedfrank

“That’s why these men who are marrying these so-called educated women, they are turning their husbands into housewives. They make them stay home, they make them babysit, they make them cook, they make them clean, they make them be the woman.”

Next thing you know, these women will want to be on top!

And I for one welcome our new female overlords!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:51:36am

A couple of years back, Jesse Lee Peterson’s producer emailed me and invited me to be on his show.

I’d never heard of him so I looked him up. I didn’t answer the invitation because he looked like a nut then, but lately he’s gone WAY off the rails, much more than when I checked him out.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:54:41am

re: #60 Charles Johnson

A couple of years back, Jesse Lee Peterson’s producer emailed me and invited me to be on his show.

I’d never heard of him so I looked him up. I didn’t answer the invitation because he looked like a nut then, but lately he’s gone WAY off the rails, much more than when I checked him out.

Seems like there’s a lot of that going around lately.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:55:48am

re: #61 Blind Frog Belly White

Seems like there’s a lot of that going around lately.

They gotta keep upping the crazy to keep the grift going, just like an addict has to keep upping the dose to get the high.

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gocart mozart  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:56:33am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:56:34am

re: #58 Eclectic Cyborg

They won’t be. They have too much power in the South and Midwest.

And there’s an undeniable appeal for some people in things like blaming The Other for their own misfortunes and wanting to ensure that nobody ever makes them uncomfortable.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:57:17am
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DangerMan  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:58:01am

re: #30 jaunte

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they are brazen in their likely illegal and conspiratorial communications
and they dont seem to care

they never think their emails will see the light of day

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:58:53am

Dorian still looking very much like a hurricane as it climbs past Delaware:

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sagehen  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:00:34pm

re: #31 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Thinking back on the dream, it seems to me that Trump is infatuated with Norway because he is very much like Quisling in a couple of ways. The attraction to fascism being a central theme. Now, Quisling was much more eloquent and better presented himself than Trump does, but they are of the same stripe.

And his ams is now a synonym for fascist puppet of hostile invaders.

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jeffreyw  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:01:51pm

re: #51 Eclectic Cyborg

Fun fact: I grew up just outside of Stittsville. Do not recall seeing any drunken raccoons though.

Remember all those time your momma told you to get in here right now? And you were all oh Mom, can I stay out just a little while longer? And she said No, you get in the house this instant?
She was trying to spare you the sight of drunken raccoons.

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mmmirele  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:03:20pm

re: #20 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Sure, I don’t doubt his sincerity, but I think Pete’s emphasis on his religious faith is part of his doomed effort to win over the Trumpers.

And it is ABSOLUTELY DOOMED as long as access to abortion is a Democratic party platform plank and Evangelicals continue to be single issue voters on abortion. Even young Evangelicals (the more church-attending, the worse it gets) have bought into the anti-abortion position.

beta.washingtonpost.com

Based on my experience, you can’t talk these people out of their belief. It takes personal impact to get them to rethink their view on abortion.

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gocart mozart  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:03:22pm
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Belafon  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:03:39pm

re: #65 Dread Pirate

We’re almost at price fixing.

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DangerMan  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:05:03pm

re: #50 KGxvi

A nihilistic narcissist admitting they are wrong is as likely as the sun rising in the west.

he could have said nothing at all
it would likely never have come up again

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jaunte  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:05:09pm

re: #71 gocart mozart

Straight out of the Dwight Schrute mold.

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jeffreyw  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:09:17pm
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DangerMan  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:10:17pm

re: #75 jeffreyw

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you enjoy watching us squirm, dontcha?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:11:35pm

re: #70 mmmirele

And it is ABSOLUTELY DOOMED as long as access to abortion is a Democratic party platform plank and Evangelicals continue to be single issue voters on abortion. Even young Evangelicals (the more church-attending, the worse it gets) have bought into the anti-abortion position.

beta.washingtonpost.com

Based on my experience, you can’t talk these people out of their belief. It takes personal impact to get them to rethink their view on abortion.

That’s true of almost everything, though. Mrs. FBW and I were talking the other day about characteristics of conservatives, and I pointed out their complete inability to understand anyone’s life experience being different from their own. They always think it’s about personal failing, till it hits them directly.

I used the example of the Cheney family and marriage equality. The only reason Dick Cheney supports marriage equality is because it affects his own daughter. But that effect didn’t even reach to her own sister.

There was also a guy on the Bowsite, who was as conservative as anyone there, till he lost his well-paid job and couldn’t find one for a while. And he got shit from some there for not taking shit jobs that paid less than his unemployment insurance.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:13:36pm

re: #73 DangerMan

he could have said nothing at all
it would likely never have come up again

I don’t think HE could have.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:15:13pm

re: #50 KGxvi

A nihilistic narcissist admitting they are wrong is as likely as the sun rising in the west.

He could have said “Initial forecasts showed that Alabama might have been affected; thankfully that did not happen”. See — doesn’t say he’s wrong and the controversy dies right there.

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DangerMan  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:15:55pm

re: #78 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t think HE could have.

;-)

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:19:25pm

re: #78 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t think HE could have.

Ron White, “I Had the Right to Remain Silent…But I Didn’t Have the Ability”.

Official Ron White - I Got Thrown Out of a Bar

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:21:13pm

….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:23:08pm

re: #81 Eventual Carrion

“I got thrown out IN to public!”

Probably my favourite Ron bit.

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jeffreyw  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:23:50pm

re: #76 DangerMan

you enjoy watching us squirm, dontcha?

Whatcha talkin bout Willis

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Jay C  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:27:31pm

re: #48 KGxvi

Trump Admin is also looking into anti-trust violations because major auto manufacturers “struck a deal” with California on emissions.

I can’t imagine this ends well for Trump:

The market is moving towards more efficient vehicles anyway.

So also, too:

a federal mileage requirement in most states versus more stringent rules in more than a dozen states that adhere to California’s standards and account for more than a third of U.S. auto sales.

So it’s not just California?

And anyway, if, as Gov. Newsom says, “see you in court”, when might that be? Ever?

Even if the DOJ goes right ahead and files their stupid “antitrust” action on Monday (and unless I’m mistaken, their release only indicated possible/intended action, not an announcement of steps actually taken [?]) - it’s September 2019 now. How long do these sort of suits take to work their way up through the relevant courts? Especially with CA’s (and probably others states’) AG fighting it all the way? 6 months? 9 months? A year til opening arguments? What’s to stop it from getting spun out til the new Administration takes over a year from January (and who will probably drop this idiot action ASAP)?

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DangerMan  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:27:50pm

re: #81 Eventual Carrion

Ron White, “I Had the Right to Remain Silent…But I Didn’t Have the Ability”.

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even knowing what’s coming, an absolute effing fave. every single time i hear that story.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:28:09pm

re: #59 Blind Frog Belly White

Next thing you know, these women will want to be on top!

And I for one welcome our new female overlords!

Yeah, at my age that saves quite a bit of work and unnecessary stress on the joints.
Oh.
You mean metaphorically.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:28:34pm

re: #83 Eclectic Cyborg

“I got thrown out IN to public!”

Probably my favourite Ron bit.

Another good one was the plane flight engine problem.

The guy sitting next to me is losing his mind. Apparently, he had a lot to live for. He goes “Hey man! [gasps for air] Hey, man! Hey, man! [gasps for air] If one of these engines fails, [gasps for air] how far will the other one take us?” [As himself]”All the way to the scene of the crash! Which is pretty handy, ‘cause that’s where we’re headed. I bet we beat the paramedics there by a half-hour! We’re haulin’ ass!”

Ron White Flying With Engine Problems

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:31:20pm

re: #51 Eclectic Cyborg

Fun fact: I grew up just outside of Stittsville. Do not recall seeing any drunken raccoons though.

Raccoons just managing the way many of the rest of us are in the age of Trump.

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William Lewis  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:34:56pm

re: #84 jeffreyw

Whatcha talkin bout Willis

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But you left the gun, right?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:38:19pm

re: #90 William Lewis

But you left the gun, right?

One cannoli hope.

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jeffreyw  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:38:35pm

re: #90 William Lewis

But you left the gun, right?

Sure, a fellow can only hold so many cannoli in one hand.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:41:11pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:42:10pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:43:21pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:43:39pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:44:56pm

re: #95 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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“Show of support”

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TedStriker  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:47:11pm

re: #84 jeffreyw

Whatcha talkin bout Willis

re: #90 William Lewis

But you left the gun, right?

re: #91 Blind Frog Belly White

One cannoli hope.

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jaunte  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:49:54pm

re: #94 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Cult markers.

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KGxvi  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:52:33pm

re: #85 Jay C

So also, too:

So it’s not just California?

And anyway, if, as Gov. Newsom says, “see you in court”, when might that be? Ever?

Even if the DOJ goes right ahead and files their stupid “antitrust” action on Monday (and unless I’m mistaken, their release only indicated possible/intended action, not an announcement of steps actually taken [?]) - it’s September 2019 now. How long do these sort of suits take to work their way up through the relevant courts? Especially with CA’s (and probably others states’) AG fighting it all the way? 6 months? 9 months? A year til opening arguments? What’s to stop it from getting spun out til the new Administration takes over a year from January (and who will probably drop this idiot action ASAP)?

Assuming the case is in federal court, it’ll probably 3 months to get past the pleading stage (first chance for a defendant to win a case is what’s called a 12(b) motion). Scheduling order that sets rules for discovery comes after that. Figure at least 2-3 months, if not longer given the need for experts. Then somebody probably files a motion for summary judgment. Under the FRCP that’s probably at least a month until it’s heard; but given calendaring issues, you’re likely looking at least 2. Given that it’s complex issues, the Court probably takes it under review before issuing a ruling (a couple weeks, most likely). So let’s say 8-9 months to get past MSJ, entirely possible that the ruling gets appealed by at least one party (figure a solid 6-8 months for that appeal to be heard and ruled on). Again, based on the court’s docket and calendar, assuming no appeal, probably another 2-3 months to get to trial.

So, realistically, best case scenario, a year to get to a bench trial. Whatever the verdict, you can anticipate an appeal, again, figure 6-8 months for Ninth Circuit to hear it, and then another year (or two, depending on when the petition for cert gets filed) for the SCOTUS to hear it. Then it has to go back down, potentially for a new trial.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:53:17pm

re: #81 Eventual Carrion

Ron White, “I Had the Right to Remain Silent…But I Didn’t Have the Ability”.

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they call me Tater…

Tater Salad.

And my boy, Tater Tot…

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gocart mozart  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:55:07pm

Eric Idle likes to retweet Seth Abramson and Stonekettle

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2019 • 12:58:32pm

re: #97 Blind Frog Belly White

“Show of support”

Imagine how the RWNJs would have lost their shit if Obama tried to cancel primaries.

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gocart mozart  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:00:46pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:01:18pm

That certainly aligns with what I see. I see my fellow effete urban elites riding light, mostly Carbon fiber or Aluminum bikes over in Woodside and Portola Valley wearing lycra shorts and helmets, but in town, most of the cyclists I see are Hispanics riding old, cheap, heavy steel bikes wearing ball caps and work clothes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:03:07pm

I would LOVE to be able to ride my bike to work sometimes. Unfortunately, this town lacks sidewalks or bike lanes on all but the busiest downtown roads. So it’s just too dangerous.

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:06:18pm

re: #106 Eclectic Cyborg

I would LOVE to be able to ride my bike to work sometimes. Unfortunately, this town lacks sidewalks or bike lanes on all but the busiest downtown roads. So it’s just too dangerous.

The two hours each way for me is a bit of a problem.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:08:39pm

re: #106 Eclectic Cyborg

I would LOVE to be able to ride my bike to work sometimes. Unfortunately, this town lacks sidewalks or bike lanes on all but the busiest downtown roads. So it’s just too dangerous.

For me, I’d have to ride 20 miles each way. I did cyclo-commute when I lived 2 miles from work, back in the 1990s. But since then, it’s always been at least 15 miles, and on urban streets the whole way.

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jaunte  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:10:13pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:16:18pm

re: #108 Blind Frog Belly White

For me, I’d have to ride 20 miles each way. I did cyclo-commute when I lived 2 miles from work, back in the 1990s. But since then, it’s always been at least 15 miles, and on urban streets the whole way.

My commute is just under 9 miles. A bit of a ride for sure, but not totally out of the question. If I could ride I certainly wouldn’t ride every day.

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KGxvi  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:19:24pm

re: #110 Eclectic Cyborg

My commute is just under 9 miles. A bit of a ride for sure, but not totally out of the question. If I could ride I certainly wouldn’t ride every day.

I don’t think I could make anything beyond about a half mile work without a shower at the office. I just sweat too much, and it would be incredibly unpleasant for all involved.

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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:19:31pm

re: #109 jaunte

Again… every time there’s a hurricane or tropical storm that hits the Carolinas we hear about toxic hog waste lagoons getting breached and dumping their noxious contents all over the place.

Every damned time. It’s as though they know it’s a problem, but think it’s not a problem (until it is).

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William Lewis  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:19:57pm

I ride every day. About a mile from work so no biggie during summer. This winter will be a different matter…

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DangerMan  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:23:42pm

re: #112 lawhawk

Again… every time there’s a hurricane or tropical storm that hits the Carolinas we hear about toxic hog waste lagoons getting breached and dumping their noxious contents all over the place.

Every damned time. It’s as though they know it’s a problem, but think it’s not a problem (until it is).

i swear half my career (not w/r/t (literal) hog waste) i’ve heard ‘we’ve always done it this way and it’s never been a problem’

as you say, nothing’s ever a problem until the first time it is

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:23:52pm

re: #112 lawhawk

Again… every time there’s a hurricane or tropical storm that hits the Carolinas we hear about toxic hog waste lagoons getting breached and dumping their noxious contents all over the place.

Every damned time. It’s as though they know it’s a problem, but think it’s not a problem (until it is).

The Simpsons Movie-Homer dumps Pig Crap in the Lake (720P HD)

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KGxvi  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:25:50pm

re: #112 lawhawk

Again… every time there’s a hurricane or tropical storm that hits the Carolinas we hear about toxic hog waste lagoons getting breached and dumping their noxious contents all over the place.

Every damned time. It’s as though they know it’s a problem, but think it’s not a problem (until it is).

I just did a bit of reading on these lagoons. How it is that we haven’t figured out a better way to deal with livestock waste at this point is rather disconcerting.

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retired cynic  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:27:35pm

This is a couple of days old, but I saved it because it just horrified me that such a criminal could be a serious candidate for Louisiana governor.

juanitajean.com : Lock Him Up, Dammit

Over the course of seven years, from 2006 to 2012, two pharmacies in rural northeast Louisiana, owned [by Dr.] Ralph Abraham, Clinic Pharmacy of Mangham and Adams Clinic Pharmacy of Winnsboro, doled out 1,478,236 doses of powerful opioids, according to a Drug Enforcement Administration database recently published by the Washington Post.

The pharmacies are 12.5 miles away from one another, and the two communities have a combined population of approximately 6,000 people. Despite the surge in opioid prescriptions, the region’s population has actually decreased during the previous twenty years.

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DangerMan  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:27:58pm

re: #115 Eclectic Cyborg

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Video

about 1:31 in: ‘uh-oh’

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DangerMan  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:29:49pm

re: #117 retired cynic

This is a couple of days old, but I saved it because it just horrified me that such a criminal could be a serious candidate for Louisiana governor.

juanitajean.com : Lock Him Up, Dammit

it’s not a liability. it’s Louisiana, jake

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unproven innocence  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:31:54pm

In case anyone here may find it interesting:
India to Attempt Moon Landing at the Lunar South Pole Today. How to Watch Live
The moon landing is set for between 4 and 5 p.m. EDT (2000-2100 GMT).

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:37:43pm

re: #120 unproven innocence

In case anyone here may find it interesting:
India to Attempt Moon Landing at the Lunar South Pole Today. How to Watch Live
The moon landing is set for between 4 and 5 p.m. EDT (2000-2100 GMT).

Apparently it has met the same fate as the Israeli Moon lander
It augered in

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Mike Lamb  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:41:11pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

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He could have simply not done anything. The whole issue took on a life of its own with the stupid sharpie.

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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:43:59pm

re: #121 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That sucks…. and is a vivid reminder that we got damned lucky back in 1969-1973 that we didn’t lose any of the crews that went to the moon despite some clear close calls (and not forgetting that we did lose the crew of Apollo 1 on the pad). Even with the tech, things do go wrong.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:46:16pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:47:08pm

re: #3 gocart mozart

Nope! The chicken has class and dignity.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:47:15pm

re: #124 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The heat was just unbearable.

…I’ll see myself out.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:49:31pm

re: #111 KGxvi

I don’t think I could make anything beyond about a half mile work without a shower at the office. I just sweat too much, and it would be incredibly unpleasant for all involved.

I am also a profuse perspirer. I once tracked myself on a 75mile ride on a hot day. I drank something like 6# (4 x 24 oz bottles), and still lost 2#. That’s a gallon of sweat, over the course of 5 hours.

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jeffreyw  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:51:38pm

re: #121 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I watched that live, every mark hit on the way down was met with polite applause. After the touchdown clock wound down there wasn’t anything, no cheers, no clapping, just the announcer saying we are still waiting for word from central control.. huddled groups of techs with no body smiling.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 6, 2019 • 1:52:50pm

re: #116 KGxvi

I just did a bit of reading on these lagoons. How it is that we haven’t figured out a better way to deal with livestock waste at this point is rather disconcerting.

Who run Bartertown?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:01:36pm
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:03:31pm
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sagehen  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:09:13pm

re: #117 retired cynic

This is a couple of days old, but I saved it because it just horrified me that such a criminal could be a serious candidate for Louisiana governor.

juanitajean.com : Lock Him Up, Dammit

“Despite the surge in opioid prescriptions, the region’s population has actually decreased during the previous twenty years.”

Not “despite.” It’s BECAUSE.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:10:32pm

re: #77 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s true of almost everything, though. Mrs. FBW and I were talking the other day about characteristics of conservatives, and I pointed out their complete inability to understand anyone’s life experience being different from their own. They always think it’s about personal failing, till it hits them directly.

I used the example of the Cheney family and marriage equality. The only reason Dick Cheney supports marriage equality is because it affects his own daughter. But that effect didn’t even reach to her own sister.

There was also a guy on the Bowsite, who was as conservative as anyone there, till he lost his well-paid job and couldn’t find one for a while. And he got shit from some there for not taking shit jobs that paid less than his unemployment insurance.

The only reason Liz Cheney did not support her sister is that it would cost her the conservative vote. I am sure she personally doesn’t care about the issue — but she does care about being elected. Not a single member of the GOP will stand up for principles that diverge from the party orthodoxy and run on them and, if elected, continue to support them. They are all cowards.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:16:04pm

Oh, Eric….

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TedStriker  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:21:06pm

re: #120 unproven innocence

In case anyone here may find it interesting:
India to Attempt Moon Landing at the Lunar South Pole Today. How to Watch Live
The moon landing is set for between 4 and 5 p.m. EDT (2000-2100 GMT).

re: #123 lawhawk

That sucks…. and is a vivid reminder that we got damned lucky back in 1969-1973 that we didn’t lose any of the crews that went to the moon despite some clear close calls (and not forgetting that we did lose the crew of Apollo 1 on the pad). Even with the tech, things do go wrong.

re: #128 jeffreyw

I watched that live, every mark hit on the way down was met with polite applause. After the touchdown clock wound down there wasn’t anything, no cheers, no clapping, just the announcer saying we are still waiting for word from central control.. huddled groups of techs with no body smiling.

Once more, the human race is reminded that space is hard and that gravity is a cruel mistress.

Sucks the Indians weren’t able to pull this off, because more lunar science is good, but alas…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:22:30pm

re: #134 Barefoot Grin

Oh, Eric….

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Aren’t those basic investigative reporter techniques?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:23:25pm

re: #134 Barefoot Grin

As the slack-jawed mouth-breathing nanocephalic imbecile is supposed to be running the Trump Organization’s business, he should expect this kind of scrutiny given that pops is running the fscking United States…..

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cat-tikvah  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:29:48pm

re: #70 mmmirele

And even then, if they need/have an abortion, their situation is always “different”.
For me but not for thee.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:30:08pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:31:40pm

Genealogy stuff:

yoDDvHoMGamVSIgGr933g7fu28ftx5ZKEgX0JY0/LqaxaH83DsqKZ/rznBmpTI+mdquv6ARL3B8OAsubF/014gJ1UpHX/AxmKXmtY4hait7qdPZv75IpV9YIiK0gHgjvVig+8m37UNRvxZ6JL47a4tIUrFxRKxNvTK+QTiOLFNU9QLfwXVelJKWcvmn6sZZ0WmdSnKKWRY41XuqSJeBQEOtN7mvrMtJtnONQ594bxZxXKGNAld3rJTO/eg6Wi2nWxYqBJxvUJuyCKv5ISF9LrykVNicyXfTWT5dF8lK3YI49IBb9mi8GIw==

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:32:52pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

Would it surprise you to learn that Rall is employed by Sputnik news agency?

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:34:16pm

re: #56 Eclectic Cyborg

THIS.

Count me in, too. (In fact, there is a very reasonable chance of that happening in the next year or so, although I would probably end up still working because my health insurance is very good)

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retired cynic  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:37:10pm

How the GOP Dies, by Nancy LeTourneau, Washington Monthly

Good stuff, which Sleuth will be happy to know smacks Hillbilly Elegy right at the beginning.

Mencimer is right to suggest that Republicans don’t seem interested in remaining relevant when it comes to policy. She echoes what Zach Roth suggested when he wrote that, at some point, the GOP decided that “being outnumbered didn’t have to mean losing.” Instead, they zeroed in on things like obstruction, voter suppression, and gerrymandering. More recently, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has demonstrated that he is content with undermining Congress while stacking the courts with extremists in an attempt to bypass the majority of voters.

But both Greenberg and Mencimer fail to address what Zak Cheney-Rice captured in an article titled, “A Non-Racist Conservative Movement Would Kill the Republican Party.” He focused on pieces from Ross Douthat and Timothy P. Carney, which articulated the same theme: “American conservatism has a racism problem, and conservatives who care must build a movement that is unwelcoming to racists.” Cheney-Rice points out the issue both Mencimer and Greenberg missed.

[I]t’s been apparent since the Nixon administration that the Republican Party would collapse without support from racists….In any case, the GOP hasn’t been able to convince most voters that corporate welfare, reduced protections for marginalized people, and diminished health-care options for all but the most financially secure are good things on their own terms, without using racism to sweeten the deal.

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:38:13pm

re: #95 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Republican officials in multiple states are on the verge of canceling their 2020 presidential primary elections in a show of support for President Trump, even as some GOP candidates plan to challenge him cnn.it

How is this legal?

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retired cynic  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:40:28pm

re: #144 MsJ

How is this legal?

The primaries are products of the parties, not the government. Apparently the Democrats cancelled them during Clinton’s second run, as no one was opposing him. Saved money.

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calochortus  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:40:52pm

re: #144 MsJ

How is this legal?

I assume parties control their nominating process whether it’s primaries, caucuses or just drawing a name out of a hat.

edit: Too slow.

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:43:37pm

For. Fucks. Sake.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:44:13pm

re: #145 retired cynic

The primaries are products of the parties, not the government. Apparently the Democrats cancelled them during Clinton’s second run, as no one was opposing him. Saved money.

I assume it’s only presidential primaries that are cancelled since there are likely to be contests for other positions

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DangerMan  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:44:34pm

re: #135 TedStriker

Once more, the human race is reminded that space is hard and that gravity is a cruel mistress.

Sucks the Indians weren’t able to pull this off, because more lunar science is good, but alas…

Mark Watney: The other question I get most frequently is. When I was up there stranded by myself, did I think I was gonna die? Yes, absolutely. And that’s one you need to know, going in, because it’s gonna happen to you. This is space. It does not cooperate.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:44:37pm

re: #147 teleskiguy

For. Fucks. Sake.

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U.S. Government agencies are no longer trustworthy. Even those who report weather.

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DangerMan  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:47:36pm

re: #145 retired cynic

The primaries are products of the parties, not the government. Apparently the Democrats cancelled them during Clinton’s second run, as no one was opposing him. Saved money.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:48:41pm
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DangerMan  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:48:48pm

re: #150 Eclectic Cyborg

U.S. Government agencies are no longer trustworthy. Even those who report weather.

when they can fuck with your ability to make a living…..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:50:26pm

re: #153 DangerMan

when they can fuck with your ability to make a living…..

when the head of NOAA is a corrupt trump appointee.

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DangerMan  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:51:19pm
“President Trump’s aides and confidants are growing more and more concerned about his mental state following days of erratic behavior, wild outbursts, and bizarre fixations,” Business Insider reports.

“They believe that his frustration is compounded by stress about the 2020 election and the economy’s recent downturn.

politics, (and presidenting), ain’t beanbag

no shame in saying you can’t handle it. ;-)
if you’re not up to it, get the fuck out

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DangerMan  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:51:54pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

when the head of NOAA is a corrupt trump appointee.

‘get me a piece of letterhead, i’ll do the rest’

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:55:06pm

re: #145 retired cynic

The primaries are products of the parties, not the government. Apparently the Democrats cancelled them during Clinton’s second run, as no one was opposing him. Saved money.

Big difference, unless I misunderstood you. No one was running against Clinton then, correct? Aside from maybe some Who Are You? wannabe candidates (Nutjobs).

Because if so, that’s different.

As much as I dislike Walsh, he is an ex Congresscritter.

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TedStriker  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:56:05pm

re: #145 retired cynic

The primaries are products of the parties, not the government. Apparently the Democrats cancelled them during Clinton’s second run, as no one was opposing him. Saved money.

Thing is, there has been some opposition to Hair Furor for 2020, such as Walsh; since Trump has cemented near-total control of the GOP’s apparatus at this point, this is to kill that opposition in its crib.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:57:29pm

Evening Lizardim.

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retired cynic  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:57:49pm

re: #157 MsJ

re: #158 TedStriker

I agree with both of you. I was just saying it wasn’t a matter of being legal. It’s DT co-opting the whole party. And them just laying there and taking it.

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BeachDem  Sep 6, 2019 • 2:59:24pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

when the head of NOAA is a corrupt trump appointee.

In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:00:41pm

re: #161 BeachDem

In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy.

The modern Republican Party is the literal embodiment of the timeless Adam Savage quote, “I reject your reality and substitute my own.”

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TedStriker  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:01:17pm

re: #160 retired cynic

I agree with both of you. I was just saying it wasn’t a matter of being legal. It’s DT co-opting the whole party. And them just laying there and taking it.

Because the GOP saw Trump as their keys to the kingdom, giving them power they’d been dreaming of for decades…so far, he’s delivered to them, to the consternation and horror of everyone else.

To the GOP, power at all costs is still power.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:01:40pm

Shouldn’t the head of NOAA have to perform ritual disembowelment or something for his mistake that dishonored Trump?

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BeachDem  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:04:01pm

re: #162 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The modern Republican Party is the literal embodiment of the timeless Adam Savage quote, “I reject your reality and substitute my own.”

And again, from Orwell:

Even the humblest Party member is expected to be competent, industrious, and even intelligent within narrow limits, but it is also necessary that he should be a credulous and ignorant fanatic whose prevailing moods are fear, hatred, adulation, and orgiastic triumph.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:04:36pm

re: #42 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Maybe there they call them drunken raccoons, here I would call them suffering from rabies.

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TedStriker  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:05:08pm

re: #164 Barefoot Grin

Shouldn’t the head of NOAA have to perform ritual disembowelment or something for his mistake that dishonored Trump?

I’m guessing the disloyal person at the NWS Birmingham office that handled the Twitter feed has been moved to “other duties”.

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gocart mozart  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:07:15pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:07:54pm

re: #167 TedStriker

I’m guessing the disloyal person at the NWS B’ham office that handled the Twitter feed isn’t handling it anymore.

The person responsible for the tweet about mooses has been sacked.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:08:51pm

re: #164 Barefoot Grin

Shouldn’t the head of NOAA have to perform ritual disembowelment or something for his mistake that dishonored Trump?

Seppuku is frowned upon, it’s a Japanese custom. They get exiled to Siberia instead.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:09:09pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:10:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:15:04pm

re: #134 Barefoot Grin

Oh, Eric….

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Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:18:45pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:21:24pm

re: #172 teleskiguy

View image on Twitter

Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama
@teleskiguy
Oh look, another appearance in public that no one was told about. And I guess you’re just going to roll over when it comes to the $8 million that Trump is taking away from our military bases in Colorado for his stupid racist wall. You’re a coward.

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5:09 PM - Sep 6, 2019

Isn’t this all happening because the deplorables on the SC (i.e. the Federalist Society thugs that now dominate the court) have ruled that the President can ignore the legislature in directing expenditures? So the legislature can appropriate funds for one purpose and the President, as dictator, can use it any way he wishes. Or am I overstating the actual specifications of the ruling?

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:21:40pm

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Figured I’d amplify that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:22:55pm

It’s so awesome that the NOAA can’t get its shit together at the peak of Hurricane season.

WHEEEEEEE

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Targetpractice  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:25:39pm

re: #174 Charles Johnson

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We’ve a president* so desperate to avoid being wrong that he is deliberately undermining the credibility of those agencies generally seen as “non-political” simply to be “right.”

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TedStriker  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:27:39pm

re: #177 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s so awesome that the NOAA can’t get its shit together at the peak of Hurricane season.

WHEEEEEEE

It’s not really even that, because, when it’s come to their actual jobs, NOAA has been doing what’s expected; it’s the political shit that they’ve gotten sucked into because of POSOTUS Trump playing weatherman in order to score points with his base and digging in when he was obviously wrong.

That’s what’s maddening.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:29:15pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:31:31pm

re: #147 teleskiguy

For. Fucks. Sake.

NOAA is part of the Commerce Department. My guess would be it was ordered by Trump through Wilbur Ross.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:33:01pm

re: #178 Targetpractice

We’ve a president* so desperate to avoid being wrong that he is deliberately undermining the credibility of those agencies generally seen as “non-political” simply to be “right.”

No agency is non-political in Trumpland. Not. a. damn. one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:33:01pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:33:25pm

re: #133 Hecuba’s daughter

The only reason Liz Cheney did not support her sister is that it would cost her the conservative vote. I am sure she personally doesn’t care about the issue — but she does care about being elected. Not a single member of the GOP will stand up for principles that diverge from the party orthodoxy and run on them and, if elected, continue to support them. They are all cowards.

Conservatism is a religion.

That’s why you see conservatives use such words as “orthodox” and “heretic.”

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gocart mozart  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:34:50pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:37:52pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:39:35pm

Honestly, I think we’re another 1-2 days away from Donny firing somebody from NOAA for giving him “false” information.

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:39:41pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:40:33pm

re: #187 Targetpractice

Honestly, I think we’re another 1-2 days away from Donny firing somebody from NOAA for giving him “false” information.

Well, yeah. He can’t fire anybody over the weekend. He’s golfing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:41:24pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:42:22pm

re: #189 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Well, yeah. He can’t fire anybody over the weekend. He’s golfing.

True. But it’s how he handles being caught in a lie:

- First he insists it’s not a lie, it’s the total truth
- Then he goes so far as to fabricate “proof” that he’s being truthful
- After which he grabs some poor schlub down the food chain to cover his ass
- When all that fails, fire someone and accuse them of being the reason he lied

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:42:27pm

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ll take “Can you really be that fucking tone deaf?” for $1000, Alex.

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retired cynic  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:43:19pm

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

YES, that’s a threat.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:44:28pm

Someone asked in that NOAA thread why they would put out such a statement, and offered up an alternative answer to mine above:

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:51:03pm

The stones of these people.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:54:22pm

re: #195 teleskiguy

The stones of these people.

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You just know the dude who thought up “Vamos to Victory” thinks he’s a fucking GENIUS.

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Targetpractice  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:55:08pm

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

You just know the dude who thought up “Vamos to Victory” thinks he’s a fucking GENIUS.

That is likely the same genius who thought that Donny eating a cheap-ass “taco bowl” would win over Hispanic voters.

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Skip Intro  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:58:11pm

re: #197 Targetpractice

And yet he won.

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retired cynic  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:58:43pm

re: #197 Targetpractice

That is likely the same genius who thought that Donny eating a cheap-ass “taco bowl” would win over Hispanic voters.

I can’t imagine anyone being on staff that long. Turnover should have plowed them under long ago.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:58:46pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 3:58:47pm

re: #195 teleskiguy

The stones of these people.

The GOP chair and a FOX News presenter. The very definition of “Hispanic.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:00:41pm

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC.

He just will not let it go.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:00:51pm
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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:01:50pm

😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

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retired cynic  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:02:10pm

re: #202 Eclectic Cyborg

JFC.

He just will not let it go.

How long has it been since that guy said he had tiny hands? He’ll never let it go.

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Skip Intro  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:02:16pm

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

That tweet, of course, was 100% correct, which is where it went wrong.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:02:41pm

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

You just know the dude who thought up “Vamos to Victory” thinks he’s a fucking GENIUS.

They’re conservatives. Plagiarism is what they do.

vamosrentacar.com

(Vamos to Victory contest from 2014 from Vamos Rent-a-Car in Costa Rica)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:03:14pm

yes…there be a sad ratio…

also, interesting that the graphic is cropped to make the NOAA logo look like the bottom of a “Q”…

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Skip Intro  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:03:53pm

re: #202 Eclectic Cyborg

JFC.

He just will not let it go.

He’s waiting for the media to apologize to him. Who will be the first to do it?

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:08:14pm

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:09:23pm

re: #210 Patricia Kayden

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Yeah, I need to read this book. I heard an interview with him about it and it terrified me to know that we’re seeing it play out in real time.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:13:26pm

NTSA

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EPR-radar  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:15:00pm

re: #184 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Conservatism is a religion.

That’s why you see conservatives use such words as “orthodox” and “heretic.”

There’s also that nauseating business of being a “Good Republican”.

Its similarity to “Goodman” and “Goodwife” (or Goody) of the puritan era is no coincidence.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:17:22pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:17:54pm
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austin_blue  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:18:29pm

re: #167 TedStriker

I’m guessing the disloyal person at the NWS Birmingham office that handled the Twitter feed has been moved to “other duties”.

He or she has “transitioned to another source of employment, as yet unknown.”

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:19:03pm

re: #212 The Pie Overlord!

NTSA

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Trump’s rallies are like a traveling carny show. Except instead of locals who come out to see the siamese twins who fathered a dozen children between them, it’s the press that comes out to see America’s lost souls.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:19:09pm

re: #212 The Pie Overlord!

NTSA

Still on the Cletus Safaris I see.

Still nothing on those of us in “Trump Country” who voted for Hillary Clinton.

I suspect she wouldn’t be strong-arming NOAA to cover for a lie about the weather.

Trump could have done the usual GOP thing by blaming a low level staffer, the Democrats, or Obama. Nope.

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:21:51pm

Maxime is Canada’s racist Marine LaPen.

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:24:40pm

Funny how that works.

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Targetpractice  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:24:54pm

re: #212 The Pie Overlord!

NTSA

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They follow an aging, increasingly pointless act across the country, showing up in droves to listen to performances that have lost all relevance with the passage of time.

But enough about Grateful Dead fans…

/////

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gocart mozart  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:26:00pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:26:05pm
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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:26:52pm

Who called it? Pool winnings are yours.

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gocart mozart  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:27:39pm
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austin_blue  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:28:23pm

re: #197 Targetpractice

That is likely the same genius who thought that Donny eating a cheap-ass “taco bowl” would win over Hispanic voters.

Um, that *was* Donny Sr.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:28:27pm

We were thinking of going hiking tomorrow. Weather Underground says that we should be safe from rain and winds where we go in western New Hampshire, but I’m not trusting it: waiting for the WH forecast.

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Targetpractice  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:28:56pm

re: #226 austin_blue

Um, that *was* Donny Sr.

My point stands!

/

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:30:08pm

Julie Roberts is the Deputy Chief of Staff for NOAA’s communications shop. She is a religious wingnut conservative.

linkedin.com

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:31:20pm

re: #224 MsJ

Who called it? Pool winnings are yours.

I’m in for Trump himself through Wilbur Ross.

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:34:48pm
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Belafon  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:35:11pm

re: #225 gocart mozart

From what I have seen, Jeff doesn’t need an excuse.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:39:33pm

Aaaaand, NOAA’s comms director, who put out that 1984 style statement covering for Trump, has now made her account private.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:42:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:43:25pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:46:15pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:47:41pm

Yay, my regional newspaper has Cal Thomas and Jonah Goldberg opinion pieces.

Goldberg’s pieces say that climate change is an excuse for Democrats to transform the economy (like that’s a bad thing) and white liberals are to the left of black voters.

Cal Thomas says Democrats will tax your retirement savings.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:48:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:50:10pm

re: #238 goddamnedfrank

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Mitch was born there…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:50:20pm
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austin_blue  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:50:32pm

re: #236 teleskiguy

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Ooh! P@wned!

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:50:53pm

re: #233 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:52:20pm

Here’s the steaming pile of bulkshyte from Cal Thomas fear-mongering over Democrats coming after your retirement.

CAL THOMAS: Will Democrats tax your retirement savings? (goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:52:50pm

picture story tweet thread starts here:

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 4:55:58pm

NOAA’s comms director is going to have to modify this, to show we really weren’t flooded because Trump wasn’t concerned about it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:00:26pm
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sagehen  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:02:14pm

re: #237 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Yay, my regional newspaper has Cal Thomas and Jonah Goldberg opinion pieces.

Goldberg’s pieces say that climate change is an excuse for Democrats to transform the economy (like that’s a bad thing) and white liberals are to the left of black voters.

Cal Thomas says Democrats will tax your retirement savings.

White liberals probably are to the left of black voters.

Black voters are pragmatists. Not a purity pony in the bunch.

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gocart mozart  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:04:58pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:07:05pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:08:40pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:10:18pm

The remnants of Tropical Storm Ferdnand are moving into my area tonight. (Mostly now high humidity and unstable air, nothing which represents circulation from a tropical system.)

From the NWS that means a chance of severe thunderstorms and large hail with high winds.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:13:04pm

Cmdr. Edward Mason, the commanding officer of ST7; Lt. Cmdr. Luke Im, the executive officer; and Command Master Chief Hugh Spangler were all relieved of their leadership posts on Friday, said Cmdr. Tamara Lawrence.

The relief was carried out by Rear Adm. Collin Green, the commanding officer of NSW. Lawrence said their relief was “due to a loss of confidence that resulted from leadership failures that caused a breakdown of good order and discipline within two subordinate units while deployed to combat zones.”

The spokeswoman declined to name who would take their place, citing operational security concerns for those SEALs and their families.

The “two subordinate units” are likely references to ST7 Alpha and Foxtrot Platoon, though Lawrence declined to name them when asked by Task & Purpose.

SEAL Team 7 Alpha Platoon made national news after SEAL Chief Eddie Gallagher was accused of war crimes during a 2017 deployment to Mosul, Iraq. Despite his acquittal on murder charges in early July, his court-martial revealed that members of the platoon had constructed their own rooftop bar in Iraq and engaged in other alleged misconduct on deployment.

More recently, the entirety of SEAL Team 7 Foxtrot Platoon was pulled out of Iraq last month amid allegations of a boozy Fourth of July party and an allegation of sexual assault.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:15:54pm

re: #247 sagehen

White liberals probably are to the left of black voters.

Black voters are pragmatists. Not a purity pony in the bunch.

I don’t know how left I am in respect to African-American voters, but I sure as hell ain’t a purity pony. Moving governance to the left has to be incremental, and I’d rather not move at all rather than throw an election.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:16:50pm

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

He literally is the British Trump. “Fuck the law, I want it my way.”

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:16:56pm

re: #250 goddamnedfrank

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:19:17pm

jeebus

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:22:33pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:25:58pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:27:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:29:38pm

it’s brutal…
:D

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Skip Intro  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:34:20pm

re: #243 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Here’s the steaming pile of bulkshyte from Cal Thomas fear-mongering over Democrats coming after your retirement.

CAL THOMAS: Will Democrats tax your retirement savings? (goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

I haven’t read it, but since when are retirement savings not kept in a mattress not taxed?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:37:25pm
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Dread Pirate  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:39:08pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:39:11pm

re: #261 Skip Intro

I haven’t read it, but since when are retirement savings not kept in a mattress not taxed?

He’s arguing that Democrats will raid people’s 401ks, IRAs, art collections, &c to pay for things like Green New Deal goals and education.

We really need a deep-pocket liberal to open a news outlet here.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:42:51pm
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Skip Intro  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:44:55pm

re: #264 Anymouse 🌹🎃

He’s arguing that Democrats will raid people’s 401ks, IRAs, art collections, &c to pay for things like Green New Deal goals and education.

We really need a deep-pocket liberal to open a news outlet here.

Cal Thomas has to be over 80 years old. I haven’t seen a column by him in decades. I thought he was dead.

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:45:30pm

re: #264 Anymouse 🌹🎃

He’s arguing that Democrats will raid people’s 401ks, IRAs, art collections, &c to pay for things like Green New Deal goals and education.

We really need a deep-pocket liberal to open a news outlet here.

That’s ok. The GOP has already spent all of it.

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Citizen K  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:45:37pm

re: #1 lawhawk

Late to this party but…

More and more, I’m convinced that sphere is just fully and wholly impenetrable. There seems to be precious little way to pierce that veil without pain. And even then, the people that need to be told the truth will likely just blame the evil librul media and evil socialists anyway.

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:47:55pm

re: #268 Citizen K

Late to this party but…

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More and more, I’m convinced that sphere is just fully and wholly impenetrable. There seems to be precious little way to pierce that veil without pain. And even then, the people that need to be told the truth will likely just blame the evil librul media and evil socialists anyway.

Right wing sites aren’t surviving without rich people throwing money at them. That’s why we need rich liberals doing it.

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Skip Intro  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:48:33pm

re: #267 Belafon

It’s humerous in a way, since raiding SS and Medicare is a real plan by his GOP.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:50:12pm

re: #266 Skip Intro

Cal Thomas has to be over 80 years old. I haven’t seen a column by him in decades. I thought he was dead.

Nah, he just publishes in places like mine now.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:51:16pm

re: #265 Anymouse 🌹🎃

“Hello, central casting? Please send someone who can play a sleazy inbred who makes money catering to Nazis and other sociopaths.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:53:00pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:53:52pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:57:29pm

Beekeepers Sue EPA (goes to KNEB radio, Scottsbluff, Nebr., more at the link):

OMAHA (DTN) — The EPA now faces a second petition for review on its approval of the insecticide sulfoxaflor, as beekeepers filed a challenge in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in San Francisco on Friday.

The Pollinator Stewardship Council and American Beekeeping Federation have asked the court to nullify the agency decision made in July.

“Petitioners ask this court to set aside EPA’s July 12, 2019, orders with respect to sulfoxaflor in whole or in part, because they are contrary to federal law and unsupported by substantial evidence in the record,” the groups said in the petition.

At the end of August, the Center for Food Safety asked the Ninth Circuit to review EPA’s recent approval of sulfoxaflor.

In July, the EPA announced newly approved registrations and restored previous uses for the insecticide. The Center for Food Safety argued the agency violated its duties under the Endangered Species Act by “failing to consult with the United States Fish and Wildlife Service or the National Marine Fisheries Service.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 5:59:19pm

wait, what?

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retired cynic  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:00:53pm

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

wait, what?

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JFC that’s amazing!

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:04:28pm
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:06:52pm

re: #278 teleskiguy

DT must have threatened them with something.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:07:27pm

re: #279 PhillyPretzel

DT must have threatened them with something.

just calling in favors from his corrupt appointees.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:08:07pm

re: #279 PhillyPretzel

Most likely the case. :(

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KingKenrod  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:09:50pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:11:44pm

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

wait, what?

Accellerating a conservative dictatorship.

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sagehen  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:18:59pm

re: #269 Belafon

Right wing sites aren’t surviving without rich people throwing money at them. That’s why we need rich liberals doing it.

Perhaps Tom Steyer would like to make himself and his money useful.

Never mind, that’s just silly.

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sagehen  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:20:12pm

re: #273 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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YOGI!!

You stole those nice people’s pic-a-nic basket!

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EPR-radar  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:21:11pm

re: #269 Belafon

Right wing sites aren’t surviving without rich people throwing money at them. That’s why we need rich liberals doing it.

It’s political war in the US, it has been that way since at least 1994, and the D establishment and donors still mostly don’t get it.

You can’t beat Fox News with nothing. There must be a D propaganda effort to balance that. IMO it would not be necessary for D propaganda to lie about Republicans — the truth is more that enough to paint them as the villains they are. But that effort must be made. Just like the Allies had a mostly truthful propaganda effort in WWII.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:27:27pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:28:51pm

Wonkette weighs in on the demise of ThinkProgress.

Wonkette Defeats ThinkProgress (they are being bitter in their article, not crowing about the site’s demise).

And so it goes. ThinkProgress really was an excellent resource, if for some unknown reason you like your news without dicks drawn on it in Sharpie. So were all the others listed above, except the Weekly Standard which we’ll see in hell.

If our tone is weird and brittle here — ha ha, we kilt them? ho ho? — it is because shit is fucked up and bullshit. Of course we don’t want to see TP go; of course we don’t like it when our “industry” hacks and wheezes and falls one by one at the side of the road. We stopped with the ads two years ago now, but others, like ThinkProgress, are still succumbing to the ad industry’s squeezing and avarice, while venture capitalists pour more money into any site that says it can game the ad-buying auctions.

Wonkette does not actually want to be the last news site standing. But we are filling a niche — and according to the latest “Ad Fontes Media Media Bias Chart,” it’s alllllll the way to the left and more “unreliable” than the guys at WND who THINK BARACK OBAMA LITERALLY ENSLAVED WHITE MEN, by hiring them, to work at the White House, where he was (WE HATE TO SAY IT) president.

Once again, go fuck yourself, Vanessa Otera, JD.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:31:37pm

re: #141 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

Would it surprise you to learn that Rall is employed by Sputnik news agency?

No. He went off the deep end when Kos fired him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:33:40pm
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:36:27pm

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

Changing the weather to make DT happy. Another excellent reason to GOTV.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:37:43pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:38:33pm

re: #292 Ace-o-aces

You say that as if he hasn’t been. Anything’s possible with this asshole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:38:33pm

LOL

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:41:05pm

re: #274 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:44:14pm

I wonder where these Air Force guys got the idea to stay at a Trump hotel? Really makes you think!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:44:16pm

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

Not so much.

Sen. Thom Tillis is a Republican. Gov. Cooper is a Democrat.

The idea is to marginalise Democrats.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:45:37pm

oh

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:46:30pm

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

THEN WHY DIDN’T YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT BEFORE, YOU SCHMUCK?

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:47:58pm

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fun fact: Lt. Gov. Patrick once did a live broadcast of his vasectomy on the radio.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:51:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:53:38pm

my surprise…

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, a Republican and longtime terrible person, has announced eight new executive orders in response to the state’s two latest mass shootings. None of it addresses the ability of domestic terrorists, unstable individuals, or random murder-minded patriots to collect assault weapons in order to murder people. Six of the eight relate to Texas Suspicious Activity Reports.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:54:00pm

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh

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“Stranger to stranger” is doing a lot of work in that sentence. I’m guessing he’s going to carve out an exemption for transfers between family members & inheritances. Anything to keep massive hoards off the books for as long as possible.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:55:35pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:56:16pm

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

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my favorite part of the article:

“The Birmingham office was correct,” said a NOAA staffer familiar with the situation but speaking on the condition of anonymity for fear of being fired in reprisal.

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:56:24pm

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:57:42pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 6, 2019 • 6:59:19pm

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:00:23pm
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Ace Rothstein  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:04:43pm

re: #309 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

But Trump constantly insulted John McCain after he died, wow…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:05:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:08:22pm
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Ace-o-aces  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:09:17pm

How much does Trump LUV authoritarians?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:09:53pm

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:10:40pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:13:02pm

I just finished dinner.

My wife called me in, saying “We’re having baby for dinner.” (Atheists, don’cha know.)

Baby spinach with roast chicken, tomatoes, and cheese.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:13:26pm

re: #316 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I just finished dinner.

My wife called me in, saying “We’re having baby for dinner.” (Atheists, don’cha know.)

Baby spinach with roast chicken, tomatoes, and cheese.

Baby. The other OTHER white meat.

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:15:30pm

re: #308 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Speaking of makeup, I saw an ad for Ulta, and one of the women in the ad had on a hijab.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:17:26pm

re: #317 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Baby. The other OTHER white meat.

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:17:38pm

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:18:43pm

re: #317 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

re: #319 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I see some of us have recently read A Modest Proposal.

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:19:18pm

re: #321 PhillyPretzel

I see some of us have recently read A Modest Proposal.

You meant it’s not actually a cookbook?

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:19:54pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:20:00pm

re: #321 PhillyPretzel

I see some of us have recently read A Modest Proposal.

Austin Powers, actually.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:24:33pm

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:25:22pm

re: #320 Belafon

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I have it on the top of one of the walls of my cube. Someone added a printout of part of her wikipedia page explaining who she is and what the stack represents.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:29:18pm

In conservatism’s “It only matters if it affects me personally” file:

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:30:39pm

re: #323 MsJ

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:35:17pm

re: #325 goddamnedfrank

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:36:01pm
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DodgerFan1988  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:37:56pm

Taking money from cancer patients to own the libs.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:38:35pm

re: #325 goddamnedfrank

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:41:11pm

re: #330 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:41:23pm

re: #331 DodgerFan1988

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Taking money from cancer patients to own kill the libs.

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:42:06pm

Price drops by $1,000,000. Not sure if this is an error but I see these price drops daily now.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:43:40pm

re: #325 goddamnedfrank

A friend of mine has a 100gallon show tank modified for a Red Slider turtle. The ancient Marineland cartridge filter finally gave it up and I bought the modern equivalent. I love the trays for media, the volume of the water flow. But not at all sure how applicable the extra media is for fresh water. Ceramic cylinders? Plastic balls? Saltwater stuff, or am i just out of date on the art?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:50:39pm

re: #335 MsJ

Price drops by $1,000,000. Not sure if this is an error but I see these price drops daily now.

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My sister sent me a listing noting my late Aunt Zelda’s home is up for sale in my hometown in Michigan. (It is over one hundred years old, built from limestone and glacial moraine stones.) She thought I might want to buy it (don’t have that kind of money, the owners want about $40,000).

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:55:48pm

I finally watched the latest Fuckface Von Clownstick CNN video.

The United States elected a fucking 4chan internet troll as president*.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:55:53pm

.

Bari Weiss’ new book on combating hatred of Jews in the Trump era is more interested in condemning the left than actually confronting the problem

Unfortunately, she has used the attack as a launch pad for a bizarre and undercooked exercise in rhetorical bothsidesism, in which she argues that American Jews should be just as worried about college students who overzealously criticize Israel as they are about the aspiring Einsatzgruppen who shoot up shuls.

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:58:42pm

Absolutely disgraceful. It’ll take decades to rebuild the United States’ reputation in global politics.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 6, 2019 • 7:59:00pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:00:22pm
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Belafon  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:01:24pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:09:19pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:15:49pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:18:08pm

re: #336 Rightwingconspirator

A friend of mine has a 100gallon show tank modified for a Red Slider turtle. The ancient Marineland cartridge filter finally gave it up and I bought the modern equivalent. I love the trays for media, the volume of the water flow. But not at all sure how applicable the extra media is for fresh water. Ceramic cylinders? Plastic balls? Saltwater stuff, or am i just out of date on the art?

No cartridge filters. Our tank is a 200 gallon mixed reef, about 8 months old. For filtration we have some live sand at the bottom, miracle mud in the refugium, about 135 lbs of Life Rock in the tank, a sump with 3 filter socks, a Vertex protein skimmer and a refugium containing chaetomorpha growing under led lighting.

I also put in a UV clarifier and a media reactor tumbling activated charcoal, but I don’t think they’re really doing jack shit. Most of the hard work is being done by the protein skimmer, the chaeto, and the bacteria on the rock. Growing it slowly, right now has:

Corals: a small birdsnest, a green star polyp frag, a small and a medium hammer, a medium purple bubble, and an orange sunburst. Everything is doing great except the sunburst, which is new and is also the only one that doesn’t have any photosynthetic bacteria to help it along. It seems to be doing better now that I moved it to a high flow area and have been spot feeding it.

Fish: 9 blue-green chromis, a mated pair of clowns, a blue tang, yellow tang and a sailfin tang.

Arthropods: 2 emerald crabs, a cleaner shrimp, a banded coral shrimp, a fire shrimp, a shit ton of copepods in the chaeto.

Also: some bristle worms stowaways that live in the refugium chaeto, seem harmless and occasionally they get into the main tank so the banded coral shrimp gets a treat.

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gocart mozart  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:19:23pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:22:01pm

Fucking moron.

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:25:13pm

re: #345 I Would Prefer Not To

How An Élite University Research Center Concealed Its Relationship with Jeffrey Epstein

By Ronan Farrow

spoiler alert. It’s MIT

Kinda bummed of that’s his new major story. This is public knowledge. I was hoping for more. ☹️

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SteelPH  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:26:37pm

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Interesting Times  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:27:09pm

re: #347 gocart mozart

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What the heck are they stuck in?? A giant piece of poo? o_O

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:28:09pm

re: #351 Interesting Times

What the heck are they stuck in?? A giant piece of poo? o_O

Steak.

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SteelPH  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:28:51pm

re: #347 gocart mozart

I don’t get it. What is this point of this? What is this supposed to represent?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:29:00pm

re: #347 gocart mozart

Can’t be overemphasized that we’re dealing with people with are pretty much still interested in adolescent power experiments.

It’s not even about real people, it’s about the imaginary people in their head that they can fantasize being better than…but that doesn’t mean that aren’t going to try and hurt us.

Better to own libs in hell than admit to being less than perfect in heaven.

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Skip Intro  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:30:19pm

re: #335 MsJ

Way too big a drop for Palos Verdes unless the house is sliding into the ocean.

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:30:22pm

re: #350 SteelPH

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Interesting Times  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:31:50pm

re: #352 Belafon

Steak.

Well, if it’s the trump variety, same thing.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:32:00pm

re: #352 Belafon

Steak.

Trump steak. Well done with ketchup.

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:34:28pm

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:35:38pm

re: #359 teleskiguy

Oh. I forgot about that dude.

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:36:04pm

re: #351 Interesting Times

What the heck are they stuck in?? A giant piece of poo? o_O

re: #353 SteelPH

I don’t get it. What is this point of this? What is this supposed to represent?

You’re asking to make sense of complete nonsense.

That is Fox “News” every single day. Nothing but nonsense.

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:38:10pm

I just watched the first episode of Pennyworth.

Excellent. Highly recommend.

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:38:15pm

re: #360 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh. I forgot about that dude.

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:41:11pm

Unless you’re allergic?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:42:00pm

re: #363 teleskiguy

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:45:06pm

re: #347 gocart mozart

Libs don’t eat steak and don’t use lightbulbs? Aside from ruining what might be a good steak there, did she come from Planet Deludio?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:46:01pm

re: #366 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Libs don’t eat steak and don’t use lightbulbs? Aside from ruining what might be a good steak there, did she come from Planet Deludio?

I’m assuming those are incandescent light bulbs, which is a thing that conservatives are sore about because apparently they like paying a shit ton more for crappier lighting.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:46:22pm

re: #359 teleskiguy

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:48:06pm

re: #367 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m assuming those are incandescent light bulbs, which is a thing that conservatives are sore about because apparently they like paying a shit ton more for crappier lighting.

I use incandescent bulbs (well, a few anyway). I don’t understand conservative whinging about thing like that, rolling coal (I’ve had a couple of numbnuts try to do that to me in Cheyenne when they see our car).

I guess I’ll never understand.

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:48:22pm

re: #367 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m assuming those are incandescent light bulbs, which is a thing that conservatives are sore about because apparently they like paying a shit ton more for crappier lighting.

I am looking for an actual 60 watt LED bulb. I figure I will only need one.

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:48:44pm

When I was in Jackson, WY this last February I had an excellent steak dinner at a restaurant called Gun Barrel. So good. Highly recommended, be sure to get reservations in advance, the place is packed constantly, I’m told. I’m a liberal.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:49:59pm

re: #369 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I use incandescent bulbs (well, a few anyway). I don’t understand conservative whinging about thing like that, rolling coal (I’ve had a couple of numbnuts try to do that to me in Cheyenne when they see our car).

I guess I’ll never understand.

I have a few still left. Most of my lights were switched to dimmable LEDs years ago, though. It’s kind of a no-brainer, really.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:50:51pm

re: #367 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m assuming those are incandescent light bulbs, which is a thing that conservatives are sore about because apparently they like paying a shit ton more for crappier lighting.

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:51:21pm

re: #355 Skip Intro

Way too big a drop for Palos Verdes unless the house is sliding into the ocean.

The last sale apparently feel through. The house is staged. I bet it’s going to wind up a short sale. Look at the price history…$60,000 back in the 70s.


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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:53:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:53:37pm

en.wikipedia.org

Happy Birthday, Jo Anne Worley. She was born on this date in 1937.

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Weaselone  Sep 6, 2019 • 8:58:45pm

re: #366 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Libs don’t eat steak and don’t use lightbulbs? Aside from ruining what might be a good steak there, did she come from Planet Deludio?

It’s always about the liberals that live in their heads, not actual liberals. The ones who want to ban cows and who they think will be pissed off by their spending more than they need to on gasoline and electricity.

As a side note, you can get perfectly decent plastic straw alternatives now for 5 cents or less per straw.

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:03:02pm

Whoa. Thunderstoms moving through the area. That’s weird. 🤔

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gocart mozart  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:03:19pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:04:22pm

Haven’t seen any rain here in weeks. It’s a welcome change.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:04:41pm

re: #268 Citizen K

Late to this party but…

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More and more, I’m convinced that sphere is just fully and wholly impenetrable. There seems to be precious little way to pierce that veil without pain. And even then, the people that need to be told the truth will likely just blame the evil librul media and evil socialists anyway.

The end result of the non-stop brainwashing from the Republican 24/7 Bullshit Machine.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:04:44pm

re: #378 teleskiguy

Whoa. Thunderstoms moving through the area. That’s weird. 🤔

I had a tornado pass 3 miles north of the house on Monday night. I drive across the damage path every day on my way to work. That was fun.

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:06:15pm

Eek! That lightning strike was close!

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Targetpractice  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:06:35pm

re: #343 Belafon

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Hey, here’s an even better idea! How about the old white guy drops out and puts his support behind the woman instead?

Yegods.

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:07:40pm

Oh yeah! Lightning is striking within a mile of my house. I should probably unplug my laptop.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:07:53pm

re: #385 teleskiguy

Oh yeah! Lightning is striking within a mile of my house. I should probably unplug my laptop.

Be safe.

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:09:05pm

This is some thread. Read it. Really. The whole thing.

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:09:20pm

re: #386 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Be safe.

No big deal. This is baby thunderstorms compared to the stuff you see out there in the midwest. It’s not even that windy.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:11:38pm

re: #388 teleskiguy

No big deal. This is baby thunderstorms compared to the stuff you see out there in the midwest. It’s not even that windy.

That may be true, but lightning is the universal constant. A hell of a lot of voltage applied to a very small area.

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:11:42pm

We might get a quarter to a half inch of rain out of this motherfucker!

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:12:55pm

re: #389 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That may be true, but lightning is the universal constant. A hell of a lot of voltage applied to a very small area.

I’m familiar with the flash-boom phenomenon. I experienced it as a teenager climbing Mt. Shavano.

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gocart mozart  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:13:05pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:14:48pm

re: #391 teleskiguy

I’m familiar with the flash-boom phenomenon. I experienced it as a teenager climbing Mt. Shavano.

My parents’ house was struck by a near-miss last year. My dad sent me a photo of the melted remains of his wireless router from where the flashback flowed through the phone lines.

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:16:49pm

And… it’s gone. You don’t like the weather in Colorado? Wait 15 minutes.

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:18:29pm
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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:21:37pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:24:09pm

straws and light bulbs in a burger?

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austin_blue  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:29:07pm

re: #397 gocart mozart

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Triggered? Well, I guess so. Triggered to laugh my ass off and SMH.

This foolishness is supposed to get my goat? My goat is also laughing it’s ass off.

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:31:14pm

Multiple reports on this.

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:32:01pm

re: #399 MsJ

Multiple reports on this.

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Trump Twitter tomorrow is gonna be LIT.

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Skip Intro  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:35:38pm

re: #400 MsJ

Trump Twitter tomorrow is gonna be LIT.

He’ll be bragging that the NOAA proved he was right all along and again demand apologies from the non-Fox media. In short, just another day like every other day.

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Targetpractice  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:37:46pm

re: #397 gocart mozart

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It is just amazing how much wingnuts have mentally regressed in order to “trigger the libs.” It’s like a five year old’s idea of throwing a fit. “MOMMY SAID I COULDN’T HAVE ANY, SO I’LL JUST HAVE ALL OF IT!!!”

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:41:45pm

Uhm…

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plansbandc  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:49:20pm

I’m really not about babbies at all, but “Call the Midwife” is superb.

If you’re looking for something with great characters and heart, watch it.

This has been an unpaid announcement.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 6, 2019 • 9:50:37pm

re: #343 Belafon

Imani Gandy🔥

@AngryBlackLady
What—and I ask this in all sincerity—the fuck is this shit? | Column: Break some eggs, Elizabeth Warren: Drop out and back Bernie chicagotribune.com

There needs to be a site called “Know your columnist”. The article is written by John Kass — a writer whom I avoid. His column appears daily on the 2nd page of the Chicago Tribune. Think of Marc Thiessen or Erick Erickson — someone whose advice should be ignored on a regular basis, unless you want to raise your blood pressure.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:01:17pm

re: #399 MsJ

Multiple reports on this.

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We’re in the endgame now.

I got a creepy feeling we’re going to see an updated version of the Harding scenario and it could turn into a suicide.

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:05:42pm

re: #406 Joe Bacon 🌹

We’re in the endgame now.

I got a creepy feeling we’re going to see an updated version of the Harding scenario and it could turn into a suicide.

Trump kill himself? Not a chance. He’s never, ever going to do that. He’s a narcissist. Not going to happen. Not ever. Disabuse yourself of that notion straight away.

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austin_blue  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:08:01pm

re: #405 Hecuba’s daughter

There needs to be a site called “Know your columnist”. The article is written by John Kass — a writer whom I avoid. His column appears daily on the 2nd page of the Chicago Tribune. Think of Marc Thiessen or Erick Erickson — someone whose advice should be ignored on a regular basis, unless you want to raise your blood pressure.

Warren is not going to capitulate to Bernie, full stop.

She’s smarter than he is, has a better platform than he does, is better on the stump than he is, and has a broader potential upside than he does. The R’s will rip Bernie to pieces in a general election. Outside of DRumpf screaming Pocahontas! at her, she can hold her own with Mango Metamussolini.

Bernie Bros will bitch and moan, but Bernie will never catch Biden. Warren might.

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plansbandc  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:11:50pm

re: #403 MsJ

wut

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plansbandc  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:12:57pm

re: #407 MsJ

More likely he topples over while raging about someone not lying hard enough for him.

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:13:33pm

re: #410 plansbandc

More likely he topples over while raging about someone not lying hard enough for him.

Ok. 😈😈😈

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:18:34pm
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austin_blue  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:21:41pm

re: #412 Ace-o-aces

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Oh, snap!

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:23:09pm
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austin_blue  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:26:10pm

re: #414 MsJ

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Well, of course he did. At least this admin is boringly consistent with its nominees. They are all nihilistic fuckwits.

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:28:15pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:33:09pm

re: #408 austin_blue

Right now Warren is who I’m voting for in the Colorado primary on Super Tuesday.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:34:59pm
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austin_blue  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:38:12pm

re: #418 Ace-o-aces

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I love the fire hydrant pinging off like a watermelon seed.

I really, really want to see the report to his insurance company.

America! Fuck yeah!

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:40:06pm

BOOM! Ronan Farrow’s latest.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:43:42pm

re: #418 Ace-o-aces

re: #419 austin_blue

At least he used his turn signal. For something or other.

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austin_blue  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:44:32pm

re: #420 Ace-o-aces

BOOM! Ronan Farrow’s latest.

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I mean, it’s not liked the money is the result of underage virgins being raped by rich, privileged men.

Oh, wait…

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:44:58pm

re: #379 gocart mozart

No, it goes back further than that. All the way back to the Trans-Continental Railroad, when either the railroad or the continent changed gender identification.

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MsJ  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:46:17pm

From that article in the Chris Hayes tweet above. Infuriating.


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austin_blue  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:48:50pm

re: #424 MsJ

From that article in the Chris Hayes tweet above. Infuriating.

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Ratfucker.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 6, 2019 • 10:54:32pm
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Belafon  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:14:07pm
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austin_blue  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:17:37pm

re: #426 Ace-o-aces

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Oh, ick. And with that hideous image, I am off to bed.

Epstein was a monster, obviously, but a very rich monster, which makes him a very rich source of funds for people who were willing to turn a blind eye. As this plays out, I expect a whole lot of people to be tarred by by his brush, both D’s and R’s.

And maybe Royals overseas? He wasn’t referred to as “Randy Andy” without cause.

I met him during the Falklands war in Mildenhall when we were picking up England’s NATO refueling requirements while they had all of their refueling assets down in Ascencion Island supporting their bombing campaign, and he was a total twat.

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:20:57pm

About Eric Trump’s broadcast of Fahrenthold’s drop box:

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:31:39pm

re: #394 teleskiguy

And… it’s gone. You don’t like the weather in Colorado? Wait 15 minutes.

The remnant low which was Tropical Storm Ferdnand is now somewhere between us and Cheyenne. We had a few thunderstorms earlier.

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EPR-radar  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:41:01pm

re: #355 Skip Intro

Way too big a drop for Palos Verdes unless the house is sliding into the ocean.

Which is a distinct possibility. A significant chunk of that peninsula is headed for the ocean, slowly. But I would have thought that nobody would be doing real estate deals in the affected area anymore.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 6, 2019 • 11:58:33pm

Bad news for my laptop: The fan sounds like it’s starting to go bad.

It’s looking like I will need to go to go to the computer shop in Scottsbluff to buy a new one. (My wife purchased this one in 2012.)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 7, 2019 • 12:09:20am

Melissa31920880553638Russian20496Troll598345 who joined in March 2017 with 409,000 tweets has concerns. She probably deserves reports from the Twitterati here.

Thirty months.

That 13,333 tweets a month. Over 440 tweets a day, every day, for two and a half years.

And somewhere in all that “Melissa” has time to be a “law enforcement, scientist.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 7, 2019 • 12:18:02am

Tropical storm-force winds now in Massachusetts.

…DORIAN PRODUCING TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS IN SOUTHEASTERN
MASSACHUSETTS…
…HURRICANE CONDITIONS EXPECTED IN PORTIONS OF NOVA SCOTIA LATER
TODAY…

SUMMARY OF 200 AM EDT…0600 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————
LOCATION…38.8N 69.1W
ABOUT 170 MI…280 KM SSE OF NANTUCKET MASSACHUSETTS
ABOUT 490 MI…790 KM SW OF HALIFAX NOVA SCOTIA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…90 MPH…150 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…NE OR 45 DEGREES AT 25 MPH…41 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…960 MB…28.35 INCHES
nhc.noaa.gov

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 7, 2019 • 12:25:32am

Wholly crap.

There will also be rough and pounding surf, especially for parts of Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and the Gulf of St. Lawrence. Waves of 7 to 10 metres will reach the Southwestern Shore of Nova Scotia during the day and spread to the Eastern Shore tonight. These waves will likely reach southern Newfoundland by Sunday morning with waves nearing 12 metres. Waves of 4 to 7 metres will impact north facing coasts of the Gulf of St. Lawrence. Note that waves will break higher along some of the coastlines, and dangerous rip currents are likely. Please exercise extreme caution.

Waves of seven to ten metres. That’s on top of the storm surge and high tide.

weather.gc.ca

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 7, 2019 • 12:35:08am

Would have been nice if you named the account, Mr. Painter:

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 7, 2019 • 12:43:35am

The registered user list shows thirty-four people active here (including me) in the last thirty minutes.

Where are y’all? Did I scare you off?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 7, 2019 • 12:48:07am

Whistling through the empty halls of Mr. Johnson’s Home for the Clinically Sane… .

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Targetpractice  Sep 7, 2019 • 12:52:50am

re: #438 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Whistling through the empty halls of Mr. Johnson’s Home for the Clinically Sane… .

Of all the things I lost, I miss my mind the most.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 7, 2019 • 1:03:39am

re: #439 Targetpractice

Of all the things I lost, I miss my mind the most.

I haven’t lost mine, I still have the coat check for it around here somewhere …

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Targetpractice  Sep 7, 2019 • 1:06:30am

re: #440 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I haven’t lost mine, I still have the coat check for it around here somewhere …

I think mine was put on a shelve and labeled “Abbie Normal.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 7, 2019 • 1:09:43am

re: #441 Targetpractice

I think mine was put on a shelve and labeled “Abbie Normal.”

LOL.

When Hurricane Dorian goes extra-tropical, does it become Hurricane Mixolydian? /questions

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Targetpractice  Sep 7, 2019 • 1:31:10am

I see some excitement over the announcement about the House Judiciary Committee’s move next week and just can’t help but shake my head. This isn’t some bold new step so much as a grudging admission that the “hearings as a substitute for impeachment” strategy is stalled. Every “key witness” has clammed up, all the “key evidence” is being locked down by exec branch stooges, and every “key move” has been met with a court challenge. And since it’s being treated not as an impeachment proceeding, but an exercise of Congress’ oversight powers, the courts are in no rush to rule on anything. If Pelosi and/or Nadler are signing off on this, it’s because it’s the only way they can hope to make their 2020 “case” for voters before 2020.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 7, 2019 • 1:44:29am

Scottish Government-owned Prestwick Airport paid £9m by Trump administration (Goes to The Scottsman, more at the link):

The loss making state-owned hub, which was put up for sale earlier this month by the Scottish Government, has received close to 650 orders since October 2017 for jet fuel.

Contract details drawn up by a US Defence Department agency indicate the deal could ultimately secure Prestwick’s parent company an additional £8m, while a new contract is set to extend the arrangement until autumn 2024.

The flurry of transactions - the equivalent of more than 35 a month - has reignited criticism of the SNP government for fostering close economic ties with the US military while publicly admonishing the president’s character and his foreign policies.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 7, 2019 • 2:04:53am

Cyberpunk af! Soon they’ll be able to do it via video conference. New protocols and best practices are going to need to be put in place to prevent these kinds of real time deepfake scams, and the targets won’t be limited to large companies, someday all of us will have to be wary of this.

Thieves used voice-mimicking software to imitate a company executive’s speech and dupe his subordinate into sending hundreds of thousands of dollars to a secret account, the company’s insurer said, in a remarkable case that some researchers are calling one of the world’s first publicly reported artificial-intelligence heists.

The managing director of a British energy company, believing his boss was on the phone, followed orders one Friday afternoon in March to wire more than $240,000 to an account in Hungary, said representatives from the French insurance giant Euler Hermes, which declined to name the company.

The request was “rather strange,” the director noted later in an email, but the voice was so lifelike that he felt he had no choice but to comply. The insurer, whose case was first reported by the Wall Street Journal, provided new details on the theft to The Washington Post on Wednesday, including an email from the employee tricked by what the insurer is referring to internally as “the false Johannes.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 7, 2019 • 2:41:55am

The five-day tropical outlook has the tropical wave west of the Cabo Verde Islands moving to threaten the Windward or Leeward Islands and the Caribbean.

nhc.noaa.gov

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 7, 2019 • 3:16:50am

re: #412 Ace-o-aces

Tell that to Trump and ask him what he’s gonna do about Wakanda’s relentless, almost yearly, attacks on the United States.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 7, 2019 • 3:48:16am

re: #447 Dr Lizardo

Tell that to Trump and ask him what he’s gonna do about Wakanda’s relentless, almost yearly, attacks on the United States.

Offer them a peace deal by investing in a giant Trump hotel and golf course? Negotiate peace with Agrabah?

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 7, 2019 • 3:58:06am

re: #448 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Offer them a peace deal by investing in a giant Trump hotel and golf course? Negotiate peace with Agrabah?

And he shouldn’t forget Wadiyah, either. I understand that Admiral General Aladeen is quite a troublemaker.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 7, 2019 • 4:04:47am

I’m going to head off to bed before the sun comes up.

If you’re in eastern Massachusetts, eastern Maine, or the Maritime Provinces, keep safe this morning.

Catch y’all later.

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jeffreyw  Sep 7, 2019 • 5:32:49am

Good morning!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 7, 2019 • 6:02:44am

Wild, must read story. An Alaska Airlines employee decided out of thin air that two Asian passengers who did not in fact know each other were terrorists, confronted them, called the cops and announced a mass evacuation.

What Caused The Mass Panic At Newark Airport? Racism.

“Everybody started running. It was the most insane scene I’ve ever been in or ever seen.”

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mmmirele  Sep 7, 2019 • 6:50:46am

The Ronan Farrow story is out. It’s (for him) relatively brief, but it’s damning for the MIT Media Lab. Basically, Media Lab tried to keep their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein under wraps, while still soliciting money from him, allowing him to develop other donors and otherwise treating him like a VIP donor. This despite the fact that Epstein was marked as disqualified in the MIT central donor database.

newyorker.com

What’s interesting about this is there was an all-hands meeting at Media Lab on Wednesday to try and address the controversy over the director of Media Lab, Joi Ito, taking money from Epstein. At the end of the meeting, one of the founders of Media Lab, Nicholas Negroponte, stood up and

said he had recommended that Ito take Epstein’s money. “If you wind back the clock,” he added, “I would still say, ‘Take it.’” And he repeated, more emphatically, “‘Take it.’”

One of the women staffers at Media Lab was so shocked by this she started crying, and Kate Darling, a scientist, shouted, “Nicholas, shut up!”

technologyreview.com

Negroponte, for his part, apparently told the Boston Globe he was defending the original decision to take the money, not to continue to take money.

Ronan Farrow doesn’t mention Wednesday’s Media Lab meeting in his story, but it’s worth reading both articles together to get a fuller idea of what was going on with MIT and Epstein.

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Belafon  Sep 7, 2019 • 7:32:47am

re: #443 Targetpractice

I see some excitement over the announcement about the House Judiciary Committee’s move next week and just can’t help but shake my head. This isn’t some bold new step so much as a grudging admission that the “hearings as a substitute for impeachment” strategy is stalled. Every “key witness” has clammed up, all the “key evidence” is being locked down by exec branch stooges, and every “key move” has been met with a court challenge. And since it’s being treated not as an impeachment proceeding, but an exercise of Congress’ oversight powers, the courts are in no rush to rule on anything. If Pelosi and/or Nadler are signing off on this, it’s because it’s the only way they can hope to make their 2020 “case” for voters before 2020.

The House Democrats are announcing that they are doing exactly what some of us here said (to the consternation of others): After summer, when people are more likely to be paying attention, they would formally announce steps that will lead to impeachment.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 7, 2019 • 7:40:06am
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Belafon  Sep 7, 2019 • 7:40:06am

re: #454 Belafon

And even with impeachment proceedings, they’re still going to need the courts, which have a whole lot of Trump appointees.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 7, 2019 • 7:50:35am

re: #456 Belafon

And even with impeachment proceedings, they’re still going to need the courts, which have a whole lot of Trump appointees.

And according to Barr, a President (R) is an absolute dictator. The Federalist Society appointees will share that opinion.

I do hope that the violation of campaign finance laws regarding Stormy Daniels and others is not the main reason for impeachment. The fact that he is a traitor serving the interests of Putin should rank higher on the charges — and they better get his tax returns for the past decade at least; otherwise they aren’t going to be proving anything that will persuade enough of the public that he needs to be dismissed through this mechanism.

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Targetpractice  Sep 7, 2019 • 7:50:47am

re: #454 Belafon

The House Democrats are announcing that they are doing exactly what some of us here said (to the consternation of others): After summer, when people are more likely to be paying attention, they would formally announce steps that will lead to impeachment.

Yeah, that’s not what I’m reading. What I’m reading is Nadler is pursuing this course because his investigations have stalled. That his announcement during the break that said investigations were actually impeachment ones was so confusing both in and outside the House that this vote is about clarifying just what the parameters are. That the House is not formally looking to impeach Donald Trump, but are just saying they’re considering it as a way of motivating the courts weighing in on the numerous legal actions brought before to move a bit faster.

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Targetpractice  Sep 7, 2019 • 7:53:33am

By the way, those of us who’ve been saying for months now that the House should formally begin impeachment hearings said so largely because…wait for it…doing so would give the Judiciary Committee and other committees conducting their own investigations the legal precedent to compel witnesses to testify and enforce subpoenas for evidence.

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mmmirele  Sep 7, 2019 • 7:56:21am

re: #459 Targetpractice

By the way, those of us who’ve been saying for months now that the House should formally begin impeachment hearings said so largely because…wait for it…doing so would give the Judiciary Committee and other committees conducting their own investigations the legal precedent to compel witnesses to testify and enforce subpoenas for evidence.

I’d just point out that the Trump administration has been defying subpoenas right and left. I don’t think the political will to enforce subpoenas is there yet, especially if it involves sending out marshals to drag unwilling witnesses in.

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Targetpractice  Sep 7, 2019 • 8:01:03am

re: #460 mmmirele

I’d just point out that the Trump administration has been defying subpoenas right and left. I don’t think the political will to enforce subpoenas is there yet, especially if it involves sending out marshals to drag unwilling witnesses in.

Which is why I see this as more of a legal ploy that a serious commitment to impeaching Cheeto Benito. For one thing, if this were a serious effort, I’d expect way more howling from the Repubs.

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Skip Intro  Sep 7, 2019 • 8:19:32am

re: #460 mmmirele

I’d just point out that the Trump administration has been defying subpoenas right and left. I don’t think the political will to enforce subpoenas is there yet, especially if it involves sending out marshals to drag unwilling witnesses in.

The marshalls work for the Trump justice department so that’s never going to happen.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 7, 2019 • 8:21:08am

re: #461 Targetpractice

Which is why I see this as more of a legal ploy that a serious commitment to impeaching Cheeto Benito. For one thing, if this were a serious effort, I’d expect way more howling from the Repubs.

They’re busy with the great Alabama crisis.

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Semper Fi  Sep 7, 2019 • 8:31:01am

re: #350 SteelPH

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 7, 2019 • 8:34:29am

re: #461 Targetpractice

Which is why I see this as more of a legal ploy that a serious commitment to impeaching Cheeto Benito. For one thing, if this were a serious effort, I’d expect way more howling from the Repubs.

The Rethugs know that Barr has their back and will interfere with any attempt to enforce subpoenas. Barr makes John Mitchell look like a model of rectitude. Barr should be impeached but any impeachment process will fail because the Senate will not convict no matter how heinous the crime. And Barr has no shame so I don’t think that there is anything that could force him to resign, except for Trump’s displeasure.

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Skip Intro  Sep 7, 2019 • 8:42:07am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 7, 2019 • 8:43:03am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 7, 2019 • 8:43:45am

re: #445 goddamnedfrank

Cyberpunk af! Soon they’ll be able to do it via video conference. New protocols and best practices are going to need to be put in place to prevent these kinds of real time deepfake scams, and the targets won’t be limited to large companies, someday all of us will have to be wary of this.

Who are you going to believe: me, or your lying ears and eyes?

Maybe it’s time to go (back to) analog.

Speaking of which, Kodak is bringing 8mm back to life.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 7, 2019 • 8:45:09am

re: #466 Skip Intro

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
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It’s always about him, isn’t it?

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Skip Intro  Sep 7, 2019 • 8:45:38am

It’s Celebrate Packing the Courts Day at the WH.

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Skip Intro  Sep 7, 2019 • 8:47:00am

re: #469 Hecuba’s daughter

He still doesn’t know the difference between “there” and “their”.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 7, 2019 • 8:47:41am

re: #467 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bob Cesca

@bobcesca_go
That explains it then. Trump’s taint is everywhere.

I feel better knowing that the person behind the tweet is not a professional who knows anything but just a typical ignorant Trump toady.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 7, 2019 • 8:52:17am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 7, 2019 • 8:53:45am
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MsJ  Sep 7, 2019 • 8:54:36am

re: #472 Hecuba’s daughter

I feel better knowing that the person behind the tweet is not a professional who knows anything but just a typical ignorant Trump toady.

That was kinda a given, no?

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 7, 2019 • 8:54:56am

re: #473 Backwoods_Sleuth

And he originally stated that he would never go to any of his properties when he became president.
lol

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mmmirele  Sep 7, 2019 • 9:00:13am

re: #350 SteelPH

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stpaulbear  Sep 7, 2019 • 9:00:57am

re: #471 Skip Intro

He still doesn’t know the difference between “there” and “their”.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 7, 2019 • 9:08:50am

re: #475 MsJ

That was kinda a given, no?

Well, given his success in demeaning everyone working for his administration, there was always the possibility that someone with real credentials would tweet a subservient lying comment to retain their job and protect funding for their agency.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 7, 2019 • 9:10:42am
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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 7, 2019 • 9:33:01am

Hello from hot Los Angeles. Once called El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles del Río Porciúncula. Somebody memo Trump to remind him we are not a foreign country.
Love my Spotify. New Release Radar gets me pretty well. Little creepy how well, but thats another story.
Sheryl Crow has a new intensely overwhelmingly collaborative album out.
So many I’ll just link the Wiki.
I got chills with some of these. Album link and embed for convenience.
Give it a listen?

Iframe

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 7, 2019 • 9:38:25am

re: #471 Skip Intro

He still doesn’t know the difference between “there” and “their”.

re: #478 stpaulbear

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 7, 2019 • 9:41:59am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 7, 2019 • 9:48:36am

re: #337 Anymouse 🌹🎃

My sister sent me a listing noting my late Aunt Zelda’s home is up for sale in my hometown in Michigan. (It is over one hundred years old, built from limestone and glacial moraine stones.) She thought I might want to buy it (don’t have that kind of money, the owners want about $40,000).

In 1956, Grandma bought our family home in Ambridge PA for $8,000 in cash.

Sheriff’s sale in 2003 (after Dad passed) $59,000

On the market now—$295,000?????

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William Lewis  Sep 7, 2019 • 9:49:05am

Trying to find a little bit of information about a surplus LEO S&W revolver over the last few days has lead me to sticking my nose into the fever camps of the gun nut web sites. It’s about as expected.

* Howls of indignation about Walmart and Walgreens about the ammo sales and requesting no open carry.

* Universal Background Checks = gun database = confiscation using fake “Red Flags” as the excuse. Trump and Moscow Mitch are expected to go along because they want re-election more that FreeDumb.

Even places I expected a bit more sanity (Liberal Gun Club, Yankee Marshall on Youtube, etc) are seething pits of paranoia these days as well.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 7, 2019 • 9:50:47am

re: #484 Joe Bacon 🌹

In 1956, Grandma bought our family home in Ambridge PA for $8,000 in cash.

Sheriff’s sale in 2003 (after Dad passed) $59,000

On the market now—$295,000?????

Meanwhile—Houses in the Koreatown section of Los Angeles where I now live—minimun of $900K on the market—single homes. Plenty in the $1-1.5 million range…

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 7, 2019 • 9:53:53am

re: #484 Joe Bacon 🌹

I bought my house for $59,000 in the late 1990’s. According to one of my neighbors it is now worth over $199,000. I still do not believe it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 7, 2019 • 9:58:00am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 7, 2019 • 9:59:23am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 7, 2019 • 10:14:48am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 7, 2019 • 10:15:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 7, 2019 • 10:18:34am
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DangerMan  Sep 7, 2019 • 10:24:45am

re: #491 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is insanity

there’s no quota on unalienable rights.
they simply ‘are’

asshat

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 7, 2019 • 10:28:42am
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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 7, 2019 • 10:32:56am

re: #493 DangerMan

[Embedded content]

this is insanity

there’s no quota on unalienable rights.
they simply ‘are’

asshat

Why, I get full of rights all the time!

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 7, 2019 • 10:38:38am

re: #417 teleskiguy

Right now Warren is who I’m voting for in the Colorado primary on Super Tuesday.

She has been and still is at the top of my list of candidates.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 7, 2019 • 10:38:52am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 7, 2019 • 10:49:03am

re: #417 teleskiguy

Right now Warren is who I’m voting for in the Colorado primary on Super Tuesday.

The DSA chapter here in Los Angeles has been taken over by the Berniebots. I keep getting nasty IMs from them because I back Warren. Every IM they send me only pushes me deeper into the Warren camp!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 7, 2019 • 10:51:08am
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MsJ  Sep 7, 2019 • 11:01:46am

re: #493 DangerMan

this is insanity

there’s no quota on unalienable rights.
they simply ‘are’

asshat

For now.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 7, 2019 • 11:04:34am

re: #476 PhillyPretzel

And he originally stated that he would never go to any of his properties when he became president.
lol

Trump in 2016: ‘I don’t have time’ for golf

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DangerMan  Sep 7, 2019 • 11:08:30am

re: #500 MsJ

For now.

The government can suppress them by force
It can’t “take” them


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