Some More News: Bret Stephens, Bedbugs, and the Illusion of Civility [VIDEO]

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The right wing’s “civility” scam is one of my pet peeves, so I laughed, I cheered, and I sagely nodded my head as I watched this episode. All at the same time.

In today’s episode, we discuss New York Times columnist Bret Stephens, who is definitely a bedbug, and how he and conservative figures like him weaponize the illusion of Civility in order to peddle their racist, uncivil, bedbuggian beliefs.

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232 comments

1
Ferdinand  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:49:37am

Shiny! New thread for lurking upon.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:49:57am

Civility is a way that the establishment tamps down criticism and threats to their power, especially when it is questioned in unconventional ways.

Fuck that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:53:46am

civility:

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Targetpractice  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:56:04am

re: #291 The Ghost of a Flea

The attempt to present post-9/11 as a period of unity is itself telling, since reactionaries and revanchists immediately leveraged the feeling of common grief to coerce people into compliance.

I keep saying it, but like the invocation of “civility” the invocation of 9/11/01 is a bad faith exercise for many of these people.

The whole “unity” business is nostalgic bunk, as what existed in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 was not so much “unity” as shellshock. If there was “unity,” it was that a group that is first shocked and then angered in unison. The shelf-life of that “unity” was shorter than the life of a Mayfly, as once the shock had passed and the anger taken over, everybody was blaming everybody else for the deaths and destruction of 9/11.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:57:01am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 11, 2019 • 11:58:40am

“Civility” is when you tell your opponents that, this being the anniversary of 9/11, there’s no important business planned in the legislature that day, and then you pull a ‘surprise’ vote to override a veto.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:08:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:09:42pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:11:41pm

re: #6 Blind Frog Belly White

“Civility” is when you tell your opponents that, this being the anniversary of 9/11, there’s no important business planned in the legislature that day, and then you pull a ‘surprise’ vote to override a veto.

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When conservative politics become unpopular, conservatives will not abandon them. They will abandon democracy.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:11:48pm

I decided not to do political posts on FB today, but boy, is it tough. I mean, ON HIS WAY TO a 9/11 memorial event at the Pentagon, Trump tweets out an attack on the media.

Then I see the video Giuliani posts, promising to crush free speech and dissent - on 9/11.

Then we find out that, OF COURSE, the idea of having the NOAA release the “correction” statement came from Trump.

Then I read that the NCGOP pulled a surprise vote in the legislature after reassuring Democrats that there was nothing on the schedule, so they could override a veto they couldn’t override with the full body voting.

And, honest to god, if Mrs. FBW says to me, ONE MORE TIME, “Why are you surprised?”, I’m gonna shoot steam out of my ears!

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plansbandc  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:12:23pm

Facebook is a delight. I just had a guy come from nowhere in one of my anti tRump groups, say I approved of tRump’s lies, and then call me a dumb fuck.

Nice first interaction. Reported and blocked. (My alternate FB)

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Skip Intro  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:23:28pm

re: #6 Blind Frog Belly White

Stupidity is Democrats believing anything Republicans say.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:24:53pm

re: #12 Skip Intro

Stupidity is Democrats believing anything Republicans say.

It’s also Republican voters believing anything Republicans say.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:28:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:34:57pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:35:19pm

BREAKING: T. Boone “Swiftboat” Pickens died, age 91.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:36:02pm
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jaunte  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:40:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:44:00pm

re: #18 jaunte

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There’s an entire abandoned subdivision at the Joliet Army Ammunition Plant in Elwood that is used for just that sort of thing.

I know because I was a participant in a state-wide joint exercise there in the early ’90s.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:44:33pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:44:50pm

re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s also Republican voters believing anything Republicans say.

The key here is ‘belief’. I was thinking about the Bolton/Trump situation, and the shambles that is Trumpian “foreign policy”. Time after time, frustrated non-Trumpkins say, “Imagine if Obama had done this! Republicans would have impeached him before lunch!” And of course Trumpkins all praise whatever it was as a genius move.

I thought about it - Trump’s talking about cutting sanctions on Iran to encourage them to meet with us, and he’s said he’d meet with no preconditions. “Imagine if Obama had…” Well, you know where I’m going with that. So why do Trumpkins think it’s okay for Trump to do? It’s not quite as simple as ‘whatever Trump does is good’, though it’s close.

No, these jaspers are CONVINCED that Trump is a strong leader, a brilliant negotiator, who wrings concessions out of our opponents that Obama could never dream of! Now, obviously, none of that has happened. Trump rattled his saber at NK, then did a 180, and now he’s making concessions that nobody would have dreamed of, bringing KJU onto the word stage as an equal, and all the while NK continues to build nukes and ICBMs.

This is, objectively, the WEAKEST performance by a US President against an adversary in our history. But because “Trump is a strong leader, a brilliant negotiator”, this MUST be a great deal!

Their belief that Trump is strong where Obama was weak means they praise diplomatic defeats as brilliant victories. If Trump makes a deal with Iran, it will almost certainly be pretty much the same as the old deal, but his followers will love it as much as they hated the same deal from Obama. More likely, it will give even more concessions to Iran, and be praised as EVEN BETTER than the original.

This is why Trump loved Bolton, BTW. Trump is the consummate bully, all bluster and puffery, but faced with a real fight, he backs down and cuts the same deal he could have had before, if not worse, in order to be able to sign something in front of the cameras. Bolton, OTOH, wants us to start the same way, but then go to war to grind our enemies into the dust. He never caught onto the “bluster-then-capitulate” method of diplomacy.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:44:58pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Stress inoculation.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:46:30pm

re: #21 Blind Frog Belly White

Sorry about the rant. It’s that kind of day - pretty much the same as every other day since 2016.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:46:52pm

Training ICE for urban warfare seems problematic. Are we experiencing a problem with armed guerilla visa-overstayers?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:48:00pm

from downstairs:

re: #302 mmmirele

I hate this bulkshit. If God was really judging us, don’t you think he would have stepped in with some smiting when our forefathers committed genocide against Native Americans and brought slaves from Africa?

They do not really believe any of this shit, they are just spouting it because they know that their target audience will lap it up and keep the donations coming to help them “combat sin” and keep our country safe from God’s ongoing wrath.

I disagree — most of them really do believe this — they believe if you haven’t been saved, the Lord will smite you; only those who worship according to their practices can avoid harm and are superior to all other humans that walk this earth. After all most Southern plantation owners were devout white Protestants.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:48:04pm

re: #24 jaunte

Training ICE for urban warfare seems problematic. Are we experiencing a problem with armed guerilla visa-overstayers?

the problem is white supremacist/militias, but they don’t want to talk about that.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:48:11pm
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Romantic Heretic  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:48:22pm

re: #23 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s good. A perfectly understandable action given the environment.

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retired cynic  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:48:57pm

re: #18 jaunte

“Urban Combat”! WTF!!?

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aatharuv  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:49:21pm

re: #18 jaunte

The far right’s Jade Helm conspiracy theories are also their fantasies…

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:50:21pm

re: #29 retired cynic

“Urban”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:50:33pm

the point I was trying to make with my Joliet Arsenal comment, is that there is no reason to look for “private vendors” unless ICE has shitload of money they want to divert to certain pockets.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:51:02pm

re: #24 jaunte

Training ICE for urban warfare seems problematic. Are we experiencing a problem with armed guerilla visa-overstayers?

This kind of training would be necessary if they were planning on large scale mass deportations and seizure of property.

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retired cynic  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:51:42pm

re: #29 retired cynic

“Urban Combat”! WTF!!?

Congratulations to me, at 25,000 Karma points.

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gocart mozart  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:52:03pm
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jaunte  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:52:07pm

“Our opponents, the media and the whole world will soon see as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned.”

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MsJ  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:52:36pm

re: #18 jaunte

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A Mom Anon  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:54:19pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chaos makes it easy to steal. Using scary words like “urban warfare” makes is sound like there’s a threat they gotta have money for. So some crony mofo is gonna sell off an abandoned mall or school or some shit and make a boatload or taxpayer dollars.

I really hate these motherfucking bastards.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 12:55:54pm

JFC

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:02:39pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:03:15pm
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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:04:48pm

re: #18 jaunte

JADE HELM 21!TY

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:05:03pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:06:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:09:04pm
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MsJ  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:11:12pm

Why, you ask, is ICE doing this in Urban areas?
re: #37 MsJ

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gocart mozart  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:11:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:12:35pm

thread:

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:18:01pm

re: #18 jaunte

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Ethnic Cleansing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:19:36pm

Bevin is askeert

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:20:34pm

Jose Andres should get nominated for a Nobel Prize…. he just goes out there and helps folks in disasters. No one bids him to do it. He just goes. And he puts logistics in place to get it done. Serve meals. He did it after Maria, and he’s doing it after Dorian.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:20:49pm

what’s really funny about the counties that Bevin is throwing all that money at?

He already has those votes locked up because…COAL!!!

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:20:52pm

re: #27 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Drinking turpentine is an old remedy for parasites and many other health problems.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:21:47pm

re: #51 lawhawk

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Jose Andres should get nominated for a Nobel Prize…. he just goes out there and helps folks in disasters. No one bids him to do it. He just goes. And he puts logistics in place to get it done. Serve meals. He did it after Maria, and he’s doing it after Dorian.

I need to hit up one of his restaurants again. He’s so great.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:22:31pm

re: #51 lawhawk

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Jose Andres should get nominated for a Nobel Prize…. he just goes out there and helps folks in disasters. No one bids him to do it. He just goes. And he puts logistics in place to get it done. Serve meals. He did it after Maria, and he’s doing it after Dorian.

that meal on the left looks sooooo gooood.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:22:51pm
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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:25:20pm

re: #54 HappyWarrior

I ate at Oyamel in DC a while back.. great meal. I’d go back again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:25:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:26:52pm

re: #57 lawhawk

I ate at Oyamel in DC a while back.. great meal. I’d go back again.

Went to Jaleo and Zantinya. Awesome stuff. He really is a great guy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:28:58pm

watching “Keeping Up with the Joneses” and it’s kinda fun seeing Gal Godot/Wonder Woman in a completely silly role.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:37:01pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:38:24pm

re: #51 lawhawk

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Jose Andres should get nominated for a Nobel Prize…. he just goes out there and helps folks in disasters. No one bids him to do it. He just goes. And he puts logistics in place to get it done. Serve meals. He did it after Maria, and he’s doing it after Dorian.

I expect it will happen soon.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:39:05pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:42:25pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

Went to Jaleo and Zantinya. Awesome stuff. He really is a great guy.

I ate at Zaytinya, back when I had no idea of Jose Andre’s - the man. Outstanding food. To this day I remember hearing a couple of idiot Republicans talking bullshit about Hillary Clinton and the email “scandal” when I ate there.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:43:31pm

re: #27 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I kinda hope they listen…

Q Anon nut recommends drinking turpentine to get rid of intestinal parasites at Q&A

Go for it! A liter a day keeps Hillary’s hit-team away.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:44:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:46:23pm

re: #66 Dread Pirate

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See My #43

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:46:30pm

re: #66 Dread Pirate

As usual, THE CRUELTY IS THE FUCKING POINT.

Hell of a day to make an announcement like this too.

FUCK ALL OF THESE PEOPLE.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:46:38pm

re: #64 BlueSpotinAL

I ate at Zaytinya, back when I had no idea of Jose Andre’s - the man. Outstanding food. To this day I remember hearing a couple of idiot Republicans talking bullshit about Hillary Clinton and the email “scandal” when I ate there.

Went there on recommendation of my brother’s sister in law. So good. I have been to Spain but my family hadn’t so I wanted to introduce them to tapas so Jaleo was perfect for that. Jose is just a great guy. The DMV is lucky to have him.

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gocart mozart  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:46:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 1:46:55pm

re: #66 Dread Pirate

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These bastards.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:00:31pm

re: #66 Dread Pirate

It’s a good thing we don’t claim to be a Christian nation, what with all the warnings the Bible gives on how to treat immigratns.

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gocart mozart  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:04:50pm
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Mescalero09  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:06:43pm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:08:31pm

re: #72 Belafon

It’s a good thing we don’t claim to be a Christian nation, what with all the warnings the Bible gives on how to treat immigratns.

And what will supposedly happen to people who ignore said warnings..

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:14:36pm

re: #70 gocart mozart

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Is he going to strip on stage?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:15:43pm

re: #76 Joe Bacon 🌹

Is he going to strip on stage?

Show up wearing a tan suit that says: “I really don’t care, do u?”

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:16:31pm

re: #76 Joe Bacon 🌹

Is he going to strip on stage?

He’s going to propose a solution different from his trademark $12,000 a year subsidy to all adult Americans!

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gocart mozart  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:18:42pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:20:40pm

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gocart mozart  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:23:20pm
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jaunte  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:26:55pm

Thieves are stealing our government right out in the open.

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mmmirele  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:27:58pm

Daniel Johnston, one of the people who tried to Keep Austin Weird, has died. He was 58.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:32:19pm

ha ha ha ha

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Dave In Austin  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:34:37pm
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Belafon  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:35:26pm

re: #84 Dread Pirate

ha ha ha ha

If it gets out to Republicans, it might get back to Trump. Then they’d get fired.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:36:10pm

Bewarned: one model brings a possible hurricane into Alabama on the 17th:

Be prepared for the tweets.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:36:53pm

re: #83 mmmirele

That’s too bad. I saw him play in New York; he was exceptionally good that night.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:37:22pm
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DodgerFan1988  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:38:31pm

The cruelty is the point.

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sagehen  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:39:07pm

re: #51 lawhawk

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Jose Andres should get nominated for a Nobel Prize…. he just goes out there and helps folks in disasters. No one bids him to do it. He just goes. And he puts logistics in place to get it done. Serve meals. He did it after Maria, and he’s doing it after Dorian.

And for icing on the cake, giving Andres the prize has an extra element of FUCK TRUMP! to it. Andres was supposed to have a restaurant in the Trump Hotel in DC… but he pulled out of the deal the day after Trump made his “rapists and drug dealers” speech to enter the campaign.

Trump then sued Andres to try to make him go through with putting his restaurant there; or at least make him pay to get out of it. Andres won the case.

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DangerMan  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:41:31pm

re: #89 jaunte

Uber says drivers aren’t core to its business after California bill moves forward

really? so if they all stopped working today, where’s your revenue come from tomorrow?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:41:49pm

Message from a friend in Lubbock:

And now a religious nut has invaded the Tech campus and is there as we speak.

How long before this lying MAGAt is hauled in for child molestation?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:44:13pm

Worst job in the world?

Facebook Post

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DangerMan  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:44:41pm

re: #91 sagehen

And for icing on the cake, giving Andres the prize has an extra element of FUCK TRUMP! to it. Andres was supposed to have a restaurant in the Trump Hotel in DC… but he pulled out of the deal the day after Trump made his “rapists and drug dealers” speech to enter the campaign.

Trump then sued Andres to try to make him go through with putting his restaurant there; or at least make him pay to get out of it. Andres won the case.

im guessing most people dont want, aim for, or target the nobel (peace).
it sort of ‘happens’ to people who spend their lives doing good works.

trump wants one so bad. he thinks he deserves it. he’s constantly ‘positioning’ himself. actively.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:45:02pm

re: #92 DangerMan

[Chief legal counsel at Uber, Tony] West said Uber could pass the ABC test because drivers aren’t “core” to its business. “Under that three-part test, arguably the highest bar is that a company must prove that contractors are doing work ‘outside the usual course’ of its business,” West said. “Several previous rulings have found that drivers’ work is outside the usual course of Uber’s business, which is serving as a technology platform for several different types of digital marketplaces.”

Seems like a load of outmoded transportation creature waste product.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:45:21pm

Link:
theverge.com

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Dread Pirate  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:46:26pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:48:14pm
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DangerMan  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:48:19pm

re: #97 jaunte

Link:
theverge.com

yeah, uber is full of shit on this

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:49:49pm

re: #100 DangerMan

“Don’t bother to pick me up at the airport, I’ll just technologyplatformforseveraldifferenttypesofdigitalmarketplaces over.”

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mmmirele  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:51:14pm

re: #100 DangerMan

yeah, uber is full of shit on this

They could have made the argument if they had made an app that could be tailored to different businesses in the “gig economy.” But Uber is its only app, driving is its only business and they scrape money from drivers. Uber can bite me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:52:32pm

re: #93 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Message from a friend in Lubbock:

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How long before this lying MAGAt is hauled in for child molestation?

“Christin” in the Wild?

well, ok then…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:54:11pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Christin” in the Wild?

well, ok then…

Sounds like an exotic dancer.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:55:48pm

Great article here from TIME on how students are taught about 9/11 in schools

And here’s an excerpt that will make you bang your damn head on the wall:

Some non-profits and educational organizations offer free online resources that help fill that void, especially for the youngest students. Teachers to whom TIME spoke mentioned the 9/11 Memorial Museum’s interactive timeline; the museum also offers a range of educational resources, all the way down to kindergarten-appropriate lesson plans that talk about the search-and-rescue dogs and emergency preparedness. Other resources include sites like Teaching Tolerance, which produces online guidelines for educators on debunking negative stereotypes about Muslims.

But flexible curricula can also introduce a different kind of obstacle for teachers. For example, Turner says she’s gotten pushback from parents for making a point to tell her students that the Islamist extremists who hijacked the planes on 9/11 don’t represent the views of all Muslims, and she’s had students who have come to the subject believing conspiracy theories that 9/11 didn’t really happen or was orchestrated by the government. Stoddard says her experience is not uncommon, as other teachers have told him they are increasingly having to field questions from students about conspiracy theories.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 2:58:28pm

grifters from top to bottom

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:01:37pm
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DangerMan  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:02:28pm

re: #105 Eclectic Cyborg

Great article here from TIME on how students are taught about 9/11 in schools

And here’s an excerpt that will make you bang your damn head on the wall:

there will be no head banging

it was totally predictable

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A Mom Anon  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:05:26pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

How can anyone watch that and not be totally creeped out and pissed off at the same time? JFC
I have pretty finely honed radar for abusive, greedy ,heartless bastards they creep me right the fuck out. Cringe.

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KGxvi  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:07:12pm

re: #100 DangerMan

yeah, uber is full of shit on this

The original intent of uber and the other gig economy apps may have been for what we traditionally thought of as independent contractors. But it has evolved in a way that doesn’t compute. You can’t just do a delivery or two or a ride here and there anymore.

That said, in a general sense, I’m not very keen on the new California law. Particularly the “central to business” test. Lots of attorneys, for example, rely on contract lawyers to make appearances or ghostwrite motions/briefs. If those contract attorneys are suddenly employees, it’s going to cause a lot of havoc. It’s also going to completely fuck up the truck driving industry and the idea of owner/operators.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:11:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:13:42pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:14:36pm

One goober claims that firing a magazine down a tank barrel will “jam the gun.” Others think shotgun slugs will break the tracks, obviously only from close range. Some even believe in the old movie trick of jumping on top to toss a molotov cocktail down the hatch.* With the traitors standing in front of 120mm barrels, running up on the tracks, and trying to jump on top, the task of eradicating their stupid asses will be greatly simplified.

*With millions of soldiers fighting tens of thousands of tanks over the last century, this has probably happened once or twice. Just as likely that thousands of heroic but gullible types have died trying.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:17:55pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:18:55pm

Ok the corrupted Supreme Court gives Trump the green light to deny asylum to migrants per Washington Post News Alert.

Susan Sarandon Stays Silent….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:19:19pm

sigh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:20:50pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:21:49pm

washingtonpost.com

Link to Post article about the Corrupted Supreme Court saying FUCK YOU to migrants requesting asylum.

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:21:51pm

re: #110 KGxvi

The original intent of uber and the other gig economy apps may have been for what we traditionally thought of as independent contractors. But it has evolved in a way that doesn’t compute. You can’t just do a delivery or two or a ride here and there anymore.

That said, in a general sense, I’m not very keen on the new California law. Particularly the “central to business” test. Lots of attorneys, for example, rely on contract lawyers to make appearances or ghostwrite motions/briefs. If those contract attorneys are suddenly employees, it’s going to cause a lot of havoc. It’s also going to completely fuck up the truck driving industry and the idea of owner/operators.

The loss of an unprecedented and ridiculously large fraction of jobs to automation and outsourcing is going to have all kinds of ripple effects. I can’t imagine a sector of the economy that isn’t going to get completely upended.

The important point is to make sure the corrupt and important pieces of shit in charge of the status quo don’t end up as the corrupt and important pieces of shit running the new world order.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:22:58pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Don, Lin Manuel, & Jose. Three awesome guys.

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retired cynic  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:23:04pm

re: #119 Joe Bacon 🌹

washingtonpost.com

Link to Post article about the Corrupted Supreme Court saying FUCK YOU to migrants requesting asylum.

At this point, it is just a headline. And it makes me feel savage!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:24:00pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Lol not gonna happen Jack.

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KGxvi  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:24:42pm

re: #114 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Someone posted a cartoon earlier with a drone strike on a III%er… I’m not even sure they’d need to break out the tanks.

Something else they don’t really think about is that both the Revolution and the Civil War had organized governments behind it who had organized militias/militaries. It wasn’t random terrorist cells shooting up government buildings. Or taking over the local Federal Express…

Randy - FedEx

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sagehen  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:25:42pm

re: #114 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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One goober claims that firing a magazine down a tank barrel will “jam the gun.” Others think shotgun slugs will break the tracks, obviously only from close range. Some even believe in the old movie trick of jumping on top to toss a molotov cocktail down the hatch.* With the traitors standing in front of 120mm barrels, running up on the tracks, and trying to jump on top, the task of eradicating their stupid asses will be greatly simplified.

*With millions of soldiers fighting tens of thousands of tanks over the last century, this has probably happened once or twice. Just as likely that thousands of heroic but gullible types have died trying.

It worked for Daryl, when he was helping protect the prison from the Governor’s forces. Tossed a grenade down the barrel of the tank’s large weapon and… bye bye tank. Our heroes survived.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:27:59pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

Number of years they’d be sentenced to in prison if the law meant any damned thing anymore….

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DangerMan  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:29:56pm

re: #110 KGxvi

The original intent of uber and the other gig economy apps may have been for what we traditionally thought of as independent contractors. But it has evolved in a way that doesn’t compute. You can’t just do a delivery or two or a ride here and there anymore.

That said, in a general sense, I’m not very keen on the new California law. Particularly the “central to business” test. Lots of attorneys, for example, rely on contract lawyers to make appearances or ghostwrite motions/briefs. If those contract attorneys are suddenly employees, it’s going to cause a lot of havoc. It’s also going to completely fuck up the truck driving industry and the idea of owner/operators.

i’d guess you probably know the rules better than most

my experience has been to distill the irs 18 (or whatever) point test down to this:

- if someone tells you what to do, when to do it, and/or how to do it, youre (likely) an employee

- if you have a phone number, business cards, advertise or otherwise solicit business, have multiple clients or sources of income, can hire someone to do work on your behalf, etc, then youre (likely) not an employee

employee vs ‘contractor’ is not something you and the other party negotiate and decide - even with an explicit contract. rather it’s based on the actuality of how the power of the relationship plays out

w/r/t uber, start with a simple question: can drivers set their own rates with passengers? can they even negotiate them with ‘uber central? i dont think so in either case.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:30:03pm
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Teukka  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:32:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:36:16pm

re: #128 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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I care why?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:37:05pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:38:57pm

re: #116 Joe Bacon 🌹

Ok the corrupted Supreme Court gives Trump the green light to deny asylum to migrants per Washington Post News Alert.

Susan Sarandon Stays Silent….

Weren’t all the crimes committed by the Nazis blessed by their courts? Our judiciary has been totally infested with Federalist Society judges; we can no longer count on any branch of the government to protect our rights. The House has little power to enforce anything without the cooperation of the Senate or the Department of (In)Justice or the judiciary. Our only hope is a great victory in 2020 but given the refusal of the GOP to protect our elections (and the sociopathy of 10s of millions of our fellow citizens) we may be deprived of that opportunity.

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DangerMan  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:39:08pm

re: #128 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

didnt trump just say that it’s inconsequential?

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Citizen K  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:39:51pm

re: #116 Joe Bacon 🌹

Ok the corrupted Supreme Court gives Trump the green light to deny asylum to migrants per Washington Post News Alert.

Susan Sarandon Stays Silent….

SCOTUS to let thousands die due to malevolent inaction and active racism, because everything fucking sucks and there seems to be no way to fix any of it.

This is the Supreme court we’re stuck with, and it’s likely not going to get any better for a generation or more at this point. Not with RBG and Breyer the most likely to leave the bench by hook or crook.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:41:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:43:41pm

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:46:53pm

re: #134 Citizen K

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SCOTUS to let thousands die due to malevolent inaction and active racism, because everything fucking sucks and there seems to be no way to fix any of it.

This is the Supreme court we’re stuck with, and it’s likely not going to get any better for a generation or more at this point. Not with RBG and Breyer the most likely to leave the bench by hook or crook.

“Equal justice under law” my ass. We now have a KKKourt packed with KKKraKKKers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:49:01pm

So, this happened at Amazon:
The Man Who Played with Fire: Stieg Larsson’s Lost Files and the Hunt for an Assassin got just 3 stars and I was curious as to why.

there were a shitload of 1 star reviews that pretty much said:

trolls aren’t even trying

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:49:56pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, this happened at Amazon:
The Man Who Played with Fire: Stieg Larsson’s Lost Files and the Hunt for an Assassin got just 3 stars and I was curious as to why.

there were a shitload of 1 star reviews that pretty much said:

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trolls aren’t even trying

So easily triggered.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:50:15pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:51:17pm

re: #51 lawhawk

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Jose Andres should get nominated for a Nobel Prize…. he just goes out there and helps folks in disasters. No one bids him to do it. He just goes. And he puts logistics in place to get it done. Serve meals. He did it after Maria, and he’s doing it after Dorian.

Agreed, absolutely.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:51:50pm

re: #128 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Some great responses to that Bloomberg tweet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:51:55pm

godammit

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:53:01pm

All those smug Bros telling me Gorsuch is better than Garland can take a goddamn seat now:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:53:59pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

godammit

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So that means the litigation could potentially “go forward” until January 21, 2025?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:54:58pm

The usual Jill Shills are still saying Hillary would have been worse…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:55:15pm

someone DID HAVE VIDEO

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:56:02pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Christin” in the Wild?

well, ok then…

Went to t he site. it’s Christ in the Wild. I thought it was christin the wild,was looking for so we sword play or such.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:56:15pm

re: #146 Joe Bacon 🌹

The usual Jill Shills are still saying Hillary would have been worse…

Because they’re assholes with an agenda.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:56:58pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

someone DID HAVE VIDEO

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I WILL NOT YIELD MR SPEAKER!
HOW DARE YOU!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 3:59:26pm

re: #148 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Went to t he site. it’s Christ in the Wild. I thought it was christin the wild,was looking for so we sword play or such.

they are not good at that

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Citizen K  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:00:11pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

someone DID HAVE VIDEO

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But it never seems to fucking matter because they GOP there basically has all the institutional power to get away with this shit.

I’m still convinced they manage to ratfuck the map drawing somehow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:00:38pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

someone DID HAVE VIDEO

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:01:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:02:34pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

godammit

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:06:08pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Republicans are just fucking determined to be extra heartless this 9/11, aren’t they?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:07:09pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What’s going on with Breyer and Kagan? Why are they supporting this evil policy?

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KGxvi  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:15:59pm

re: #157 Hecuba’s daughter

What’s going on with Breyer and Kagan? Why are they supporting this evil policy?

Probably looking at it as a purely procedural matter. Whether stays should or shouldn’t be granted is several chapters in most Civil Procedure case books in law school.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:30:02pm

fucktard

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:30:25pm

moron

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A Mom Anon  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:32:06pm

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

What in the actual fuck? (Insert Eternal Scream here…)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:34:27pm

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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He’s really showing them and by them I mean the American consumer and his contempt for them.

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:38:31pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

Extremism in the defence of Liberty is no vice. - well known crazy person Barry Goldwater.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:39:01pm

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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b.d.  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:39:07pm

evening lizards

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Mescalero09  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:39:43pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:40:06pm
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Dread Pirate  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:42:12pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:42:35pm

oh

well, yeah, most likely

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:43:16pm
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Weaselone  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:44:17pm

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

I all fairness to Arnold, I think Trump wants to be a different Austrian.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:44:33pm

re: #163 Romantic Heretic

Extremism in the defence of Liberty is no vice. - well known crazy person Barry Goldwater.

“In you heart, you know he’s right”
-1964 GOP slogan

“In your guts, you know he’s nuts.”
-1964 Democratic response.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:45:43pm

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s such a dumbass.

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Romantic Heretic  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:46:06pm

re: #53 Shropshire Slasher

Parasites generally don’t do well in corpses.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:46:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:47:12pm

re: #169 Dread Pirate

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Oh. So we don’t have money to protect our allies but we do to give Iran tons of money? Can’t wait to hear how Trump is tough on Iran.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:47:41pm

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Idiot. Goddamned idiot.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:48:26pm
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retired cynic  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:50:15pm

re: #179 Dread Pirate

It jolly well better hurry up!

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Skip Intro  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:51:45pm

re: #180 retired cynic

It jolly well better hurry up!

It’s going to happen any year now. Just wait and see.

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:53:28pm

re: #158 KGxvi

Probably looking at it as a purely procedural matter. Whether stays should or shouldn’t be granted is several chapters in most Civil Procedure case books in law school.

In this era of Republican fascism, purely procedural decisions aren’t really acceptable.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:54:53pm

No words.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:56:48pm
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Skip Intro  Sep 11, 2019 • 4:58:09pm

Six months from now.

“Supreme Court says Trump administration can start enforcing new rules preventing Democrats from voting in national elections while legal battles continue”.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:00:27pm

re: #184 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:00:53pm

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:01:56pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

I have many questions.

So do I. My first is “Does this goober have the smallest dick in his time zone, or the smallest dick in the Northern Hemisphere?”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:03:05pm

re: #187 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Well Mikey might be the next to leave our bizarro reality show Presidency. That’s really how the past three years have felt. Except instead of merely being stupid, it’s racist too.

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mmmirele  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:03:56pm

I don’t know if you guys saw this today. Right now, one of the tropes among Evangelicals, especially the covert racists, is that they don’t see race. Tori Williams Douglass, a woman of color and an exvangelical, is having none of that.

I’m going to embroider this, since I can’t get it tattooed on my body (the dreaded diabeetus doesn’t work well with tats).

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:04:32pm

re: #184 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The best part is that ridiculous mount. Can’t shoot to the front, can’t shoot to the back, and the recoil would tear it right off.

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gocart mozart  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:06:34pm

The tankie simpletons are going after Ilhan and AOC

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:08:55pm

Lre: #192 gocart mozart

The tankie simpletons are going after Ilhan and AOC

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They’re so fucking awful. Just as much as the MAGA dipshits:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:09:25pm

re: #188 EPR-radar

So do I. My first is “Does this goober have the smallest dick in his time zone, or the smallest dick in the Northern Hemisphere?”

That but I was wondering who drives while he shoots.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:11:24pm

re: #194 HappyWarrior

That but I was wondering who drives while he shoots.

The dog, obviously. But they swap jobs on Thursdays.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:16:42pm

re: #195 Belafon

The dog, obviously. But they swap jobs on Thursdays.

Ah! I knew the dog shot some of the time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:17:39pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:18:20pm

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Ah! I knew the dog shot some of the time.

Somebody’s gotta take care of the cats.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:19:53pm

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sotomayor after RBG is my favorite. One of Obama’s better legacies imo.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:20:18pm

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think I’m going to run for Congress in 2022 on a platform of speeding up the progression of whites to plurality status. It will include a system where citizens can be swapped for a more productive immigrant.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:21:28pm

Jesus is dead

Jeff Fenholt — best known for playing the title character in the original Broadway theater production of “Jesus Christ Superstar” — has died.

Law enforcement sources tell us Jeff died Tuesday, only 5 days before his 69th birthday. We’re told Fenholt had recently been battling some health issues and was found dead at his home. Jeff’s death is not being investigated under suspicious circumstances.

Jeff famously played Jesus in Andrew Lloyd Webber’s rock opera, “Jesus Christ Superstar,” which opened on Broadway in October 1971 and played at the Mark Hellinger Theatre for a widely successful run of more than 700 performances.

Jeff was also embroiled in controversy over his involvement with the English heavy metal band, Black Sabbath. Jeff claimed he was a singer in the band for a few months in 1985, and says the band used several of his melodies for their album, “Seventh Star,” though he was not credited.

However, original Sabbath member Tony Iommi never confirmed Jeff was in the band … and the official line from Black Sabbath is that Jeff merely “tried out” for a spot in the group.

Jeff also gained notoriety as a Christian evangelist, and he says he made the conversion after becoming addicted to drugs and alcohol after the end of ‘JCS’ on Broadway.

Jeff was 68.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:23:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:27:06pm

hiding in plain sight…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:29:04pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jesus is dead

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Wait 3 days.

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TedStriker  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:29:53pm

re: #172 Weaselone

I all fairness to Arnold, I think Trump wants to be a different Austrian.

One with a snappy mustache and who was also a teetotaler…

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b.d.  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:31:22pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:44:38pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:45:26pm

There is so many parallels between Brexiters and Trumpers.

Read the following stories and see how many you can find:

‘We want to be free,’ cry the Brexit crowds

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:49:49pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:50:19pm

re: #208 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There is so many parallels between Brexiters and Trumpers.

Read the following stories and see how many you can find:

‘We want to be free,’ cry the Brexit crowds

Working for the same boss.

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Citizen K  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:54:39pm

re: #207 Patricia Kayden

People made fun of this in the comments about how no one wants to work for the administration, but it’s more sinister than that. It’s basically further consolidating roles and power into a narrowing handful. It’s a step away from Stephen Miller, National Security Head, or Ivanka Trump, Commerce Secretary.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:57:46pm

re: #209 Belafon

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OFFS. Why not.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 11, 2019 • 5:59:20pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:03:16pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:08:05pm
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Belafon  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:11:44pm

re: #215 Charles Johnson

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Dread Pirate  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:17:27pm
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Citizen K  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:20:28pm

re: #215 Charles Johnson

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gocart mozart  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:24:15pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:24:43pm

re: #213 goddamnedfrank

The bit about how Epstein was playing out a personal fantasy by having smart guys entertain his eugenic sex fantasies is a thought I’ve been struggling to articulate for weeks.

I keep talking about how power and wealth put you in a position to never here “No.” This applies to when they fund “science” and “research”: ultimately their interest is aesthetic and vain in ways that contradict the skepticism required to be empirical, so they’re going to both fund quacks and uncritically pursue wacky pie in the sky stuff that sounds grandiose. The point is their self-image and sense of power, not actually helping people.

…which is pretty much what we’re watching on billionaire social media. Jeff Bezos could do productive shit with his Smaug horde, but space travel is exciting and speaks to a kind of basic-bitch loftiness of purpose. It’s why they can hang out at Davos and talk about saving the world from climate change—a very publically-acceptable, sounds-good activity to perform—but be incapable of considering that it might not be a for-profit venture, to the point that they talk down to people that point that out.

This is why philanthropy is deeply fucked; even if their priorities are moral (no guarantee) they still might not be what generally needs a fucking ton of money thrown at it.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:26:45pm

Hi.

Thunderstorms are smiting the area again.
wunderground.com

We’re off to Denver tomorrow to have our car serviced and part of the hail damage repaired. We will be staying overnight there.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:29:52pm

600,000 extra dollars to drive. We should send him a bill.

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:30:07pm

re: #213 goddamnedfrank

The MIT Media lab has been a flake and woo magnet for a long time. Long ago I briefly talked with a student that had some kind of connection there, and he was a total flake on all technical issues. I.e., at the having no respect for the idea of natural laws that you can’t repeal with a glowing press release level. IMO that’s the kind of crap that has to be taught to anyone bright enough to get into MIT.

This Epstein shit changes the story from flake factory to ‘holy shitballs, a rich sociopath is getting his vanity eugenics projects acted on’.

I wonder if Peter Thiel will manage to keep his disgusting pet science projects secret forever. Probably not. I’m sure they exist.

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:33:41pm

re: #208 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There is so many parallels between Brexiters and Trumpers.

Read the following stories and see how many you can find:

‘We want to be free,’ cry the Brexit crowds

“We want freedom.”

Ahh.. the common refrain for those who are explicitly white, explicitly part of the a plurality with overreaching power, and those have the overwhelming, personality-defining sense of Entitlement.

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TedStriker  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:35:00pm

re: #223 EPR-radar

The MIT Media lab has been a flake and woo magnet for a long time. Long ago I briefly talked with a student that had some kind of connection there, and he was a total flake on all technical issues. I.e., at the having no respect for the idea of natural laws that you can’t repeal with a glowing press release level. IMO that’s the kind of crap that has to be taught to anyone bright enough to get into MIT.

This Epstein shit changes the story from flake factory to ‘holy shitballs, a rich sociopath is getting his vanity eugenics projects acted on’.

I wonder if Peter Thiel will manage to keep his disgusting pet science projects secret forever. Probably not. I’m sure they exist.

Nope and yes, yes they do (and it’s actually a bit of old news):

Report: FDA Launches Investigation Into Research by Peter Thiel-Backed Herpes Vaccine Company

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:36:04pm

re: #220 The Ghost of a Flea

The bit about how Epstein was playing out a personal fantasy by having smart guys entertain his eugenic sex fantasies is a thought I’ve been struggling to articulate for weeks.

I keep talking about how power and wealth put you in a position to never here “No.” This applies to when they fund “science” and “research”: ultimately their interest is aesthetic and vain in ways that contradict the skepticism required to be empirical, so they’re going to both fund quacks and uncritically pursue wacky pie in the sky stuff that sounds grandiose. The point is their self-image and sense of power, not actually helping people.

…which is pretty much what we’re watching on billionaire social media. Jeff Bezos could do productive shit with his Smaug horde, but space travel is exciting and speaks to a kind of basic-bitch loftiness of purpose. It’s why they can hang out at Davos and talk about saving the world from climate change—a very publically-acceptable, sounds-good activity to perform—but be incapable of considering that it might not be a for-profit venture, to the point that they talk down to people that point that out.

This is why philanthropy is deeply fucked; even if their priorities are moral (no guarantee) they still might not be what generally needs a fucking ton of money thrown at it.

Philanthropy is also deeply fucked because it strongly reinforces the idea that the plutocrats are the rulers who determine what exists in society by choosing what to fund and what not to fund. Especially in relation to science and the arts. See also VC tech culture, where making money is the goal, but determining what exists by being the ultimate deciders of everything because $$$ is still the game.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:40:18pm

FWIW
facebook.com

I call bullshit on Trumps obviously false accusation about the Bahamian people. Genuine refugees should be welcomed here, as America did when she was great and kind.

twitter.com

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:47:53pm

Julesburg, Colorado is about to get stomped.

radar.weather.gov

Storms are also intensifying here. yay hail

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Sep 11, 2019 • 6:53:10pm

re: #190 mmmirele

I don’t know if you guys saw this today. Right now, one of the tropes among Evangelicals, especially the covert racists, is that they don’t see race. Tori Williams Douglass, a woman of color and an exvangelical, is having none of that.

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I’m going to embroider this, since I can’t get it tattooed on my body (the dreaded diabeetus doesn’t work well with tats).

“I don’t see race,” means, “if it’s not white, I can’t see it.”

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plansbandc  Sep 11, 2019 • 7:02:41pm

re: #213 goddamnedfrank

Wow. That level of wealth is toxic in ways I’ve never even imagined.

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John Hughes  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:24:29am

re: #102 mmmirele

They could have made the argument if they had made an app that could be tailored to different businesses in the “gig economy.” But Uber is its only app, driving is its only business and they scrape money from drivers. Uber can bite me.

You don’t have UberEats where you live?

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John Hughes  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:31:36am

re: #114 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Some even believe in the old movie trick of jumping on top to toss a molotov cocktail down the hatch.*

You don’t throw the molotov down the hatch, you throw it onto the back deck in an attempt to set the engine on fire. The Abrams has a fire extinguisher.

If one of the top hatches is open there’s a guy pointing a GPMG at you so trying to thrown a molotov down the hatch would be risky.


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