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10 Democratic presidential candidates will take the debate stage at Texas Southern University in Houston, including former Vice President Joe Biden, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg, former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro, California Sen. Kamala Harris, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, former Texas Rep. Beto O’Rourke, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, and entrepreneur Andrew Yang.

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205 comments

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BigPapa  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:03:27pm

I really don’t care much about the debate other than @BravelyWriting is going to live blog it.

She does some writing for Wonkette and is my second fave Twitter follow after @AngryBlackLady

Yes, you should follow her. Or else.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:06:46pm

Which of these people can really move those Americans who voted for Trump but now have buyer’s remorse?

Any of them?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:10:12pm

Money buys votes.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:12:24pm

Go Kamala.

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Targetpractice  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:12:38pm

Pete, no offense, but I covered this the other day: The whole idea of “unity” after 9/11 is so much nostalgic BS. The only thing that unified America after 9/11 was anger and shock, both very negative emotions as we saw in the following year.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:12:50pm

I’m going to the opera, and expect you all to take good notes.

Suffer, you poor victims.

//

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sagehen  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:13:14pm

re: #2 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Which of these people can really move those Americans who voted for Trump but now have buyer’s remorse?

Any of them?

No. None of them.

But… which of these people can really move those Americans who sat out the last election because “both parties are the same,” or “Hillary would be worse”? Dear God, I hope most of them.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:13:59pm

re: #6 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Enjoy. No doubt it will be much better than those so-called debates.

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sagehen  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:13:59pm

re: #6 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

I’m going to the opera, and expect you all to take good notes.

Suffer, you poor victims.

//

Which opera? Would I recognize some of the songs from Bugs Bunny cartoons?

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Skip Intro  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:14:20pm

The ONLY thing that matters is which of them can beat Trump.

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Targetpractice  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:14:42pm

Am I crazy in saying Bernie waving his hand around is distracting?

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:15:19pm

re: #7 sagehen

No. None of them.

But… which of these people can really move those Americans who sat out the last election because “both parties are the same,” or “Hillary would be worse”? Dear God, I hope most of them.

It took us about two minutes of person-to-person contact to change the mind of one such person in the midterms. It might be up to us grunts on the ground.

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thecommodore  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:15:24pm

re: #11 Targetpractice

Am I crazy in saying Bernie waving his hand around is distracting?

No you aren’t.

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gocart mozart  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:15:49pm
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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:16:04pm

re: #9 sagehen

Which opera? Would I recognize some of the songs from Bugs Bunny cartoons?

Billy Budd. Probably not.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:16:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:17:11pm

re: #11 Targetpractice

Am I crazy in saying Bernie waving his hand around is distracting?

wagging that wrinkled finger…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:17:35pm

Biden wants to cure diseases. Good. But that’s not really a political choice as few candidates will ever campaign on not wanting to cure diseases.

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thecommodore  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:17:48pm

Bernie needs to gargle.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:17:54pm

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

wagging that wrinkled finger…

Hey, at least it’s just a finger.

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BeachDem  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:18:15pm

And right out of the gate, George tries to pit them against each other. What a surprise.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:18:52pm

re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White

Hey, at least it’s just a finger.

yeah…I don’t even want to imagine his other wrinkled appendages…

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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:18:55pm

Uh oh. Joe Biden is slurring a lot of words, running them together. Not gonna tweet this because people get angry when you notice it. But it’s noticeable.

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b.d.  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:19:37pm

Go home Biden.

“I’m going to ask everyone the republican question of how to pay for stuff!” A question nobody asks any republican

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:19:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:20:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:21:34pm

re: #14 gocart mozart

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Chrysicat  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:21:58pm

From the previous thread:
re: #31 Charles Johnson

Oh brother.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:22:20pm
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BeachDem  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:23:42pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not even a lost scene

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Targetpractice  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:23:52pm

Both Warren and Bernie kick the shit out of the idea that “keeping your insurance” is a good thing.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:24:36pm

Joe Biden is not growing on me.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:24:39pm

So this debate is ABC making sure that Joe is the center of the discussion.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:24:50pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:25:23pm

Warren with the perfect soundbyte: (paraphrase) “I’ve never met anybody who loves their insurance company.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:25:24pm
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BeachDem  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:25:25pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Joe Biden is not growing on me.

And Bernie is growing more obnoxious by the day.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:25:31pm

Neither is Bernie Sanders.

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Targetpractice  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:26:41pm

And we move on from “Joe, take shots at Biden and Warren” to “Alright, Amy, now take shots at the rest of the field.”

FFS

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Chrysicat  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:26:43pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Joe Biden is not growing on me.

Not even like a fungus?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:26:50pm

re: #36 The Pie Overlord!

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Seriously. No more old guys.

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Skip Intro  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:27:42pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

As an old guy myself, I couldn’t agree with you more.

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Targetpractice  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:27:47pm

ABC seems set on the “Moderates v. Radicals” narrative.

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sagehen  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:28:12pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is “regenerative neurology” research also applicable to Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:28:33pm

re: #42 Skip Intro

As an old guy myself, I couldn’t agree with you more.

I’m kinda over the need to be younger than the President.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:29:42pm

The American people voted for Donald Trump.

Well, 65 million of them.

I don’t trust those people, Mayor Pete.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:31:00pm

What Pete, Amy, and Joe know is that enough Americans are fooled by the GOP that socialism=Satan.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:31:09pm

re: #46 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The American people voted for Donald Trump.

Well, 65 million of them.

I don’t trust those people, Mayor Pete.

62 million Americans voted for Donald Trump.
65 million voted for Hillary Clinton.

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Targetpractice  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:31:51pm

“Choice.” That’s going to be the damned epitaph on our nation’s tombstone. “We gave the people the choice.”

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MsJ  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:31:58pm

re: #48 The Pie Overlord!

62 million Americans voted for Donald Trump.
65 million voted for Hillary Clinton.

62 million are still gullible, stupid or both.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:32:20pm

re: #48 The Pie Overlord!

I stand corrected.

So I don’t trust 62 million people.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:32:38pm

Lre: #42 Skip Intro

As an old guy myself, I couldn’t agree with you more.

Seriously, we don’t need someone who will be 80 in his time in the WH.

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Kilroy was here  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:32:51pm

re: #50 MsJ

62 million are still gullible, stupid or both.

With a little hint of jealousy and racism.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:33:40pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

“Choice.” That’s going to be the damned epitaph on our nation’s tombstone. “We gave the people the choice.”

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“In order for YOU to believe you have a choice, these 10 million people will be completely uninsured, and we as a country will pay nearly twice as anyone else”

“YES! Sign me up!”

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sagehen  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:34:08pm

re: #35 Targetpractice

Warren with the perfect soundbyte: (paraphrase) “I’ve never met anybody who loves their insurance company.”

Hate to disagree with Liz, I do like her a lot, but… I’m pretty happy with my insurance company. My rheumatologist, my meds, my colonoscopy, annual CT to track possible smoking damage, pulmonologist, mammogram, annual physical, lab work every 6 months… the only money I’ve spent is my premiums. Which total about 10% of my income.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:34:32pm

Joe needs to look into the camera.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:35:17pm
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Cheechako  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:35:52pm

I think Bernie’s voice will not be able to finish the debate.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:36:04pm

re: #55 sagehen

Hate to disagree with Liz, I do like her a lot, but… I’m pretty happy with my insurance company. My rheumatologist, my meds, my colonoscopy, annual CT to track possible smoking damage, pulmonologist, mammogram, annual physical, lab work every 6 months… the only money I’ve spent is my premiums. Which total about 10% of my income.

I really think the Sanders-Warren wing misses things like that. Unfortunately in some circles, you’re either a progressive or John Delaney.

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BeachDem  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:36:23pm

re: #58 Cheechako

I think Bernie’s voice will not be able to finish the debate.

We can only hope…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:37:47pm

re: #60 BeachDem

We can only hope…

My brother unfortunately is a bit of a BB. I love him to death but I think he doesn’t understand that Bernie lacks political skills.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:38:19pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

I really think the Sanders-Warren wing misses things like that. Unfortunately in some circles, you’re either a progressive or John Delaney.

I think it’s not that they miss that, but rather fail to adequately explain why M4A doesn’t change that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:39:19pm

Also, everyone loves their insurance till they’re out of network and really sick, or their company changes to a new insurer and you have to hunt through their damn books.

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BeachDem  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:39:50pm

re: #58 Cheechako

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Belafon  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:40:55pm

This was in an email from Mark Pocan:

Presidential Marker
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Targetpractice  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:41:25pm

And finally the injection of sanity from Booker, that whatever the disagreements between candidates on their proposals, they must unite against Trump.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:43:21pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

Booker is great at talking, but he seems to have a problem owning the room.

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Semper Fi  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:43:22pm

Half these people should be home watching the debate…

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Cheechako  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:43:36pm

re: #64 BeachDem

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:43:44pm

jeebus, Joe

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BeachDem  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:44:03pm

So glad they’re talking about white supremacy and racism. They can all be on the same page and against the fucking Republican bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:44:04pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

And finally the injection of sanity from Booker, that whatever the disagreements between candidates on their proposals, they must unite against Trump.

Booker is someone I wish was doing better. I certainly have past disagreements but I think he’s got a good agenda.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:45:43pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:47:20pm
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Belafon  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:47:36pm

re: #68 Semper Fi

Half these people should be home watching the debate…

Half of the people are at home watching the debate.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:47:38pm

re: #68 Semper Fi

Half these people should be home watching the debate…

Yup. Or running for a Senate seat and making themselves useful.

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Targetpractice  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:47:45pm

First a question to Pete that boils down to “Won’t you apologize to Trump voters for calling them racists?” and now one to Kamala to ask “Why are you a hypocrite?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:47:48pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:51:00pm

WTFITS

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:51:01pm

re: #74 The Pie Overlord!

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She mishandled the thing but your party can fuck off with the fauxrage.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:51:34pm

re: #79 The Pie Overlord!

WTFITS

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He can’t stop talking about HRC.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:51:44pm

These criticisms of Kamala (and Amy) are always about picking a few cases in which some injustice appears to have been done.

But what the critics never seem to acknowledge is that there are millions of cases, and trying to make a prosecutor, even the state AG, seem like they are responsible for every choice is just wrong.

The critics take the easy road.

And this is the problem with criticizing anyone in office. You have to take the whole picture in.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:51:50pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:52:00pm

So, is this where we get told yet again that it’s “good” that we devote primary debates almost entirely to either provoking on-stage fights or asking Fox News questions of candidates, because it’ll “prepare them for debating Trump”?

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BeachDem  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:52:41pm

re: #69 Cheechako

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:53:05pm
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Skip Intro  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:54:00pm

re: #84 Targetpractice

So, is this where we get told yet again that it’s “good” that we devote primary debates almost entirely to either provoking on-stage fights or asking Fox News questions of candidates, because it’ll “prepare them for debating Trump”?

Nobody should “debate” Trump because he doesn’t debate. It will just be a WWE freakshow without even the pretense of rules.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:54:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:54:05pm

re: #82 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

These criticisms of Kamala (and Amy) are always about picking a few cases in which some injustice appears to have been done.

But what the critics never seem to acknowledge is that there are millions of cases, and trying to make a prosecutor, even the state AG, seem like they are responsible for every choice is just wrong.

The critics take the easy road.

And this is the problem with criticizing anyone in office. You have to take the whole picture in.

Calling Kamala a cop is stupid imo especially if you think political corruption should be prosecuted.

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Cheechako  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:54:57pm

re: #85 BeachDem

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Belafon  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:57:51pm

re: #74 The Pie Overlord!

I’m sure a lot of people here have stories of some Native American, Latino, or African American in their genealogy that turn out to be false. I have a couple, and yet my sister’s 23&me check turned up nothing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:58:43pm

there’s more in that thread…

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Belafon  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:59:03pm

re: #84 Targetpractice

So, is this where we get told yet again that it’s “good” that we devote primary debates almost entirely to either provoking on-stage fights or asking Fox News questions of candidates, because it’ll “prepare them for debating Trump”?

Remember how lackluster Obama was in his first debate in 2012?

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:59:06pm

If the GOP has nothing to say about Warren except to spew this lame “Pocahontas” bullshit it’s going to bite them in the ass. NTTAWWT.

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TedStriker  Sep 12, 2019 • 5:59:21pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

yeah…I don’t even want to imagine his other wrinkled appendages…

Ewwwww….

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Belafon  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:01:07pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

Someone needs to fill out her wikipedia page.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:01:44pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:02:43pm

re: #91 Belafon

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I’m sure a lot of people here have stories of some Native American, Latino, or African American in their genealogy that turn out to be false. I have a couple, and yet my sister’s 23&me check turned up nothing.

Meanwhile, 23&Me and ancestry.com have both run numerous commercials where they brought on one or more people who share stories about how their families believed for generations that they were descended from one place, but then learned they actually came from somewhere else. Ex: The guy who believed his family’s ancestry was German, only to find out they were Scottish.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:03:47pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

Let me be the capitalist here:

Yes, BigPharma makes big profits.

Profits most of which go into retirement funds via huge funds that hold retirement. Retirement funds of millions of people.

The executives take but a small share of that $23B.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:04:00pm
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Belafon  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:04:13pm

Part of Warren’s plan for Medicare for all should be to buy all of the health insurance companies’ names and leave those at the top of each persons insurance documents for the first couple of years.

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Belafon  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:05:35pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

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My Dad, a former Army mechanic in Vietnam, will completely approve of this message.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:06:07pm

What did Obama (allegedly) say?

Americans cling to their guns and their Bibles.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:08:57pm

re: #99 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Let me be the capitalist here:

Yes, BigPharma makes big profits.
Profits most of which go into retirement funds via huge funds that hold retirement. Retirement funds of millions of people.

The executives take but a small share of that $23B.

Executives portions are not the point

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BeachDem  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:09:03pm

I give hour 1 to Elizabeth, Kamala and Beto (Julian/Corey runners up)

YMMV—and JFC, can’t believe there are two more hours to go.

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teleskiguy  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:10:23pm

I actually agree with this wholeheartedly. Fully automatic weapons and silencers are illegal to all but a select few who pass very rigorous background checks. Whoa. What a concept.

I have friends who own AR-15-style rifles. They think they should be able to keep them. I agree, you can keep them if you pass a rigorous background check and an interview with local police.

And firearms should be insured against negligent use or if it’s stolen and used in the commission of a crime.

Basic stuff. BUT MUH 2ND AMENDMINT

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:10:37pm
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Skip Intro  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:10:50pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

Starfish is doing the best debate coverage I’ve ever seen. Can he keep it up another 2 hours?

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:11:24pm

He’s performing some of his “Greatest Shits”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:11:28pm

re: #108 Skip Intro

Starfish is doing the best debate coverage I’ve ever seen. Can he keep it up another 2 hours?

I. Am. Dying.

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Belafon  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:11:44pm

re: #99 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

According to Warren, salaries aren’t included in that value:

Elizabeth Warren: “The insurance companies last year alone sucked $23 billion in profits out of the health care system. $23 billion. And that doesn’t count the money that was paid to executives, the money that was spent lobbying Washington.”

Warren’s campaign directed us to a report from the National Association of Insurance Commissioners, a nonpartisan group of industry regulators. It supports her assessment.

The report says that in 2018, health insurers posted $23.4 billion in net earnings, or profits, compared with $16.1 billion a year prior.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:13:11pm
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Skip Intro  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:14:08pm

re: #109 The Pie Overlord!

Where is he and why? Just to piss all over the debate?

Rhetorical question, of course.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:14:13pm

He’s competing with the Dem debate.

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Targetpractice  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:15:45pm

Castro calling out Joe for taking credit for all the good things Obama did, but making excuses for why he had nothing to do with the “bad” things Obama has been accused of.

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TedStriker  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:15:48pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

Beto: “Hell yes, we’re gonna take your AR-15, your AK-47!”

It’s time for this to happen.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 13, 2019

re: #102 Belafon

My Dad, a former Army mechanic in Vietnam, will completely approve of this message.

These days, a lot of people will respond favorably to Beto (and hopefully other Dems as well) saying what needs to be said about guns in this country, because they’re tired of the almost-daily blood sacrifices to the Tree of Liberty and the 2nd Amendment.

The NRA and the Republicans will bleat and squeal like stuck hogs, but fuck ‘em, because they’d never vote for a Dem anyway and you can’t work with people who never deal in good faith.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:17:10pm

LOLWUT

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Targetpractice  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:19:48pm

re: #117 The Pie Overlord!

LOLWUT

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Racist grandpa is having one of his fits again.

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TedStriker  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:20:31pm

re: #117 The Pie Overlord!

LOLWUT

So, now we know why Trump did why he did what he did and, surprise surprise, it’s all about his ego and vanity (aside from sticking it to Obama and the libs).

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HappyWarrior  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:22:23pm

re: #117 The Pie Overlord!

LOLWUT

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In 1994, he was ruining the Little Rascals with a cameo.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:22:57pm
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TedStriker  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:23:27pm

re: #118 Targetpractice

Racist grandpa is having one of his fits again.

Some poor staff member is overdue with the tranq gun…

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Belafon  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:23:41pm

re: #117 The Pie Overlord!

LOLWUT

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We should ask all the MAGAts where they were 25 years ago, because it wasn’t America, thus they’re all immigrants and should be deported.

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Targetpractice  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:23:49pm

Break time!

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:24:18pm

re: #99 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Let me be the capitalist here:

Yes, BigPharma makes big profits.

Profits most of which go into retirement funds via huge funds that hold retirement. Retirement funds of millions of people.

The executives take but a small share of that $23B.

23B is just the health insurance companies, who provide ZERO care.

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teleskiguy  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:28:25pm

re: #124 Targetpractice

Break time!

John Elway’s Quarterback (NES) Playthrough

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Chrysicat  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:29:08pm
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BeachDem  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:29:29pm

You’ll all be thrilled to know that Marianne is doing a post-debate commentary tonight. And no, I am NOT providing the link because I care about you. You’re welcome.

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Targetpractice  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:29:30pm

Coffee break’s over, back on your heads!

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MsJ  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:29:43pm

re: #121 The Pie Overlord!

Trump always projects his evil shit on others. With him talking about rounding up homeless people and putting them into camps… This tweet is terrifying.

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Targetpractice  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:29:55pm

re: #128 BeachDem

You’ll all be thrilled to know that Marianne is doing a post-debate commentary tonight. And no, I am NOT providing the link because I care about you. You’re welcome.

Just how high will I need to be to understand it?

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:31:06pm

Um that is not how wind turbines work, dumbass.

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Skip Intro  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:31:28pm

re: #128 BeachDem

You’ll all be thrilled to know that Marianne is doing a post-debate commentary tonight. And no, I am NOT providing the link because I care about you. You’re welcome.

Why should we need a link? Can’t she just beam her thoughts directly into our heads?

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Weaselone  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:31:51pm

re: #127 Chrysicat

She’s not entirely of European ancestry. If she put that up, it would be a lie.

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BeachDem  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:32:05pm

re: #131 Targetpractice

Just how high will I need to be to understand it?

It’s a level that has never before been tested. I wouldn’t risk it if I were you.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:33:55pm

Concerned Women for America

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Belafon  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:35:15pm

re: #136 Dread Pirate

[Embedded content]

Concerned Women for America

Women concerned white men aren’t being made to feel superior I see.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:36:52pm
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sagehen  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:38:05pm

re: #136 Dread Pirate

[Embedded content]

Concerned Women for America

aka Ladies Against Women

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BeachDem  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:39:33pm

Has Bernie smiled once since that time the bird landed on his podium. (And Bernard, here’s an idea—CLEAR YOUR THROAT)

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teleskiguy  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:43:16pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:43:52pm
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Chrysicat  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:44:35pm

Senator Warren, no, we won’t bomb our way to victory in Afghanistan.

OTOH, an entire generation of women who were educated while it was cumpulsory rather than forbidden to school them, will find themselves being slaughtered as soon as we give it back to the Taliban.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:51:22pm

Republicans are fucking crazy bastards.

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Disloyal Archangel  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:52:38pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:53:18pm

This is the ad GOP ran about AOC

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A Mom Anon  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:56:10pm

re: #146 The Pie Overlord!

WTAF?

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Targetpractice  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:56:30pm

re: #145 Archangelus

[Embedded content]

You have to remember that these nutters honestly believe that if ever they rose up in armed insurrection, the Armed Forces would either side with them or would simply refuse any orders to fire on fellow Americans.

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BigPapa  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:58:16pm

The wingnuts are going full bonkers. This is not the time to back off, it’s time to press harder.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:59:35pm

re: #147 A Mom Anon

WTAF?

This is an actual Republican-paid-for political ad that was broadcast by ABC.
This is really fucked up.

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teleskiguy  Sep 12, 2019 • 6:59:41pm
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cat-tikvah  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:00:13pm

re: #139 sagehen

I have seen them perform, many many years ago:
ladiesagainstwomen.com

One chant was Blow your whistle, toot your horn
We love everyone, till they’re born!

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teleskiguy  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:01:55pm

THIS JOO WOMAN “COMEDIAN” IS CORRUPTING OUR YOUNG ONES BY ENCOURAGING USE OF HARD DRUGS LIKE MARIJUANA!!!

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BeachDem  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:01:59pm

re: #150 The Pie Overlord!

This is an actual Republican-paid-for political ad that was broadcast by ABC.
This is really fucked up.

[Embedded content]

Looks like it was a local buy on Sinclair-owned ABC affiliates rather than a national buy. Doesn’t make it acceptable, but appears not to be ABC network.

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makeitstop  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:02:02pm

re: #121 The Pie Overlord!

[Embedded content]

He looks like shit. Like he’s one bucket of KFC this side of an event.

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BigPapa  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:03:36pm

re: #153 teleskiguy

I shot up two marijuanas.

Went to the kitchen and made ratatouille. Only wanted Captain Crunch. Halp me plez.

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Disloyal Archangel  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:04:12pm

Think it’s time I took a refresher course in Adobe Premiere and Final Cut Pro (or other video editing tools that have come out in the past decade)…

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teleskiguy  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:06:48pm

re: #156 BigPapa

My uncle did a marijuana pot drugs bowl pipe *one time* and a wolf ate his hands.

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BeachDem  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:07:18pm

I’ve figured out why Yang doesn’t wear a tie—there’s no way he could button the top button on his shirt because button #2 looks like it’s about to fly off his shirt.

Edit to correct Yank to Yang.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:13:32pm

People Powered Money™.

Because… it sounds good.

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BeachDem  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:16:01pm

Gotta say, Bernie and Joe look and sound about 20 years older than Elizabeth.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:16:31pm

“record player” - Joe, go home.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:16:31pm

I’m not surprised that ABC ran that disgusting ad.

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BigPapa  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:16:50pm

re: #158 teleskiguy

You say a wolf ate his hands like it’s a bad thing.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:17:47pm

If you talk about radio and record players, you’re 40 years out of date.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:18:26pm

re: #158 teleskiguy

My uncle did a marijuana pot drugs bowl pipe *one time* and a wolf ate his hands.

Ate his hands or ate OUT OF his hands?

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teleskiguy  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:18:26pm

re: #164 BigPapa

Not having hands presents all kinds of challenges in daily life. You’d be surprised.

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Chrysicat  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:19:43pm

Why is Book talking as though he were still a mayor and not a senator?

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Amory Blaine  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:20:00pm

DAG NABBIT

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teleskiguy  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:21:31pm

re: #165 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

If you talk about radio and record players, you’re 40 years out of date.

I shared this at LGF Pages a little over four years ago. Fun read.

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gocart mozart  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:21:53pm

re: #144 The Pie Overlord!
Here’s the ad

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:21:57pm

re: #168 Chrysicat

Why is Book talking as though he were still a mayor and not a senator?

He wants to be seen approachable, and be different than the other senators. Especially Amy, who comes off as a bit un-energetic in local things.

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Chrysicat  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:22:48pm

re: #165 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

If you talk about radio and record players, you’re 40 years out of date.

Radio I’ll give you.

Today’s 19-year-old is more likely to have used a record player than the 19-year-old in 1999 was.

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jaunte  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:23:25pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:24:19pm

re: #171 gocart mozart

Here’s the ad

[Embedded content]

I paged it.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:25:52pm

Everytime I see these political ads I increase my belief that every dollar donated in a campaign needs to be documented and the source made public.

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BigPapa  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:26:47pm

re: #167 teleskiguy

Not having hands presents all kinds of challenges in daily life. You’d be surprised.

You say it like it’s a bad thing.

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Chrysicat  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:26:59pm

What are the hecklers saying?

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Amory Blaine  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:27:13pm

Hecklers

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Interesting Times  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:29:43pm

Protip: if you insist on disrupting a live televised event, at least have the coordination and common sense to make your protest chant intelligible 9_9 (because really, all I hear is WHARGARBLBLARG)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:30:08pm

Yeah. Couldn’t tell what they were saying. But I’m pretty sure they were lefties being idiots. This is why we can’t hold on to power for more than one cycle. 🤦🏻‍♂️

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sagehen  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:30:55pm

re: #150 The Pie Overlord!

This is an actual Republican-paid-for political ad that was broadcast by ABC.
This is really fucked up.

[Embedded content]

Not run on the network; only on Sinclair-owned affiliates.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:32:06pm

Since I’m still on a Twitter ban, I have to find other people who have made the same snarky jokes I would have made.

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jaunte  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:34:08pm

re: #183 Ace-o-aces

I saw Exacerbated Balkans jam with E Pluribus at Bonnaroo.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:34:48pm
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mmmirele  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:44:38pm

re: #176 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Everytime I see these political ads I increase my belief that every dollar donated in a campaign needs to be documented and the source made public.

I’m thinking the twenty-two (22) large (over $200) donors to this wretched PAC are going to have a bad day tomorrow.

opensecrets.org

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:45:19pm

I wonder what the ratings will be for the debate. Seems that not so many comments around here and other places online.

Sure, it is trending on Twitter, but Thursday is slow for sports and new shows.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:46:38pm

Did anyone figure out what the hecklers were saying??

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Chrysicat  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:47:18pm
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jaunte  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:48:09pm

re: #188 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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Chrysicat  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:48:37pm

re: #187 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I wonder what the ratings will be for the debate. Seems that not so many comments around here and other places online.

Sure, it is trending on Twitter, but Thursday is slow for sports and new shows.

Ummm…there is an NFL game on.

Well, for certain definitions of “NFL”, anyway, since it’s a battle of NFC South bottom feeders. And you have to have NFL Network to get it, but it’s in most cable plans anymore.

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BeachDem  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:48:50pm

Who’s the man-bun guy hanging with Yang?

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Interesting Times  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:49:18pm

re: #188 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Did anyone figure out what the hecklers were saying??

I’ve seen some twitter comments to the effect of them being DACA recipients. All the more reason for them to have come up with a short, punchy, comprehensible chant as opposed to incoherent screaming.

(you and I had an exchange somewhat related to this a while back, when I commented on how the trump campaign relied on three-word, three-syllable chants that were especially memorable as a result. Progressive groups need to learn to do the same on behalf of their own cause)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:49:58pm

re: #171 gocart mozart

Here’s the ad

[Embedded content]

If AOC did not exist it would be necessary to invent her just for the vast stretches of Republican mental real estate she takes up rent-free.
If I were a billionaire, I might be tempted to set up my own Republican PAC. We would run commercials denouncing Jussie Smollett and notorious Civil War era Democrats like Jefferson Davis. Our crowning effort though would be a video called “The Return of Freedom.” This would feature heroically chiseled, black-clad SWAT cops herding slovenly leftist professors out of their classrooms, all to a background of waving flags and stirring music. A follow on scene would feature long lines of filthy, ape-like Latinos and Muslims being herded toward the border, Bataan death march style. I’ll bet we could get C. Kirk, Ass-Wohl and the Rage Furby to participate gladly.
On second thought, such a thing might actually help the Republicans by convincing hard core, self-disenfranchised racists and conspiracy dupes that it’s not all rigged after all.

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teleskiguy  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:50:30pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:50:52pm

re: #193 Interesting Times

Yup.

Caaaaaa stanza

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danarchy  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:54:34pm

re: #193 Interesting Times

I’ve seen some twitter comments to the effect of them being DACA recipients. All the more reason for them to have come up with a short, punchy, comprehensible chant as opposed to incoherent screaming.

(you and I had an exchange somewhat related to this a while back, when I commented on how the trump campaign relied on three-word, three-syllable chants that were especially memorable as a result. Progressive groups need to learn to do the same on behalf of their own cause)

Every time I see the acronym DACA it makes me think of DAKA which was the absolutely horrendous dining service when I was in college.

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Chrysicat  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:54:48pm
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BeachDem  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:54:58pm

This kind of says it all

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MsJ  Sep 12, 2019 • 7:56:16pm
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Interesting Times  Sep 12, 2019 • 8:00:01pm

re: #196 GlutenFreeJesus

Another thing I just realized is that the trump rally chants contain, as marketing parlance would put it, a Call to Action (“lock her up”, “drain the swamp”, etc)

So sane people/groups could try something like:

Trump’s a thief
Stop the con
End the grift
Vote them out
Im-peach trump

And while it doesn’t contain a Call to Action, an example of a chant that’s already taken off is “Moscow Mitch”

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Chrysicat  Sep 12, 2019 • 8:02:22pm

re: #199 BeachDem

This kind of says it all

[Embedded content]

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 12, 2019 • 8:07:18pm

re: #201 Interesting Times

Another thing I just realized is that the trump rally chants contain, as marketing parlance would put it, a Call to Action (“lock her up”, “drain the swamp”, etc)

So sane people/groups could try something like:

Trump’s a thief
Stop the con
End the grift
Vote them out
Im-peach trump

And while it doesn’t contain a Call to Action, an example of a chant that’s already taken off is “Moscow Mitch”

Ditch Moscow Mitch

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uriel  Sep 12, 2019 • 8:40:59pm

So, does this mean I win?

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Lani  Sep 13, 2019 • 2:10:25am

re: #59 HappyWarrior

I’m happy with my insurance as well. I qualify for Medicare, but I am happy with my employment insurance. Much better coverage.


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