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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2019 • 9:47:29am

Get in line.

The line is nearly 30 years old. That is, if you got on the line now, they’re taking cases that were first ingested into the system more than 30 years ago. This is no way to run an immigration process. Clean up the backlog and that means devote resources to get those visas processed, green cards issued, and naturalize those in the system.

It doesn’t mean shut it all down to nonwhites, which is exactly what Trump and the GOP wants. They have framed this as merely waiting in line, but when you create a line that is 30 years long, and there’s no sign anyone will ever get to immigrate from nonwhite countries in any reflection of the numbers that would want to come here, “getting in line” is a dodge for the reality that the GOP wants to preserve white power in the country for as long as possible.

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KGxvi  Sep 16, 2019 • 9:56:23am

re: #1 lawhawk

Shutting it down to non-whites is the “moderate” position among the white wing. Deep down, most of them really want zero immigration.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2019 • 10:06:29am

re: #2 KGxvi

Shutting it down to non-whites is the “moderate” position among the white wing. Deep down, most of them really want zero immigration.

Negative immigration - kicking the nonwhites out (including American citizens who are not white). That’s the ultimate position.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 16, 2019 • 10:09:10am

re: #3 lawhawk

Negative immigration - kicking the nonwhites out (including American citizens who are not white). That’s the ultimate position.

And a sure-fire death to America knell.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 10:22:12am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2019 • 10:22:15am

re: #3 lawhawk

Negative immigration - kicking the nonwhites out (including American citizens who are not white). That’s the ultimate position.

remember “self-deportation”?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 16, 2019 • 10:22:50am

THE WORLD IS FULL OF IDIOTS PART 4935943454850485

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2019 • 10:22:50am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s cute. You think we’re done with the Mueller Report. Stay tuned.

He assumes that Barr fixed it with his four-page summary.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2019 • 10:27:23am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2019 • 10:28:37am

re: #9 jaunte

If you think Obama signing a deal with Netflix after leaving office is remotely similar to Trump shaping policy about countries where he has business interests or trying to host the G7 Summit at his resort without divesting, then you are—I can’t emphasize this enough—an idiot.

This does reveal a degree of desperate thrashing about for arguments.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 16, 2019 • 10:30:09am

re: #10 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This does reveal a degree of desperate thrashing about for arguments.

I don’t think it tops my number 7 above.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 10:35:25am
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DangerMan  Sep 16, 2019 • 10:35:58am

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DangerMan  Sep 16, 2019 • 10:36:24am

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DangerMan  Sep 16, 2019 • 10:39:14am

re: #8 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He assumes that Barr fixed it with his four-page summary.

That and if the Dems had anything why didn’t they do it the day the report came out.

Preparation and investigation are for losers

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BigPapa  Sep 16, 2019 • 10:40:33am

I’m going to get Baby Whiplash trending as an ode to Pie Overlord.

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BlueGrl21  Sep 16, 2019 • 10:40:57am

I hate that it took losing Ric Ocasek for me to remember how much I loved The Cars. I have been listening and dancing in my chair at work all morning.

The world sucks a whole lot lately, but there is also, “My Best Friend’s Girl,” and “Magic,” to help it suck a bit less.

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KGxvi  Sep 16, 2019 • 10:44:18am

re: #3 lawhawk

Negative immigration - kicking the nonwhites out (including American citizens who are not white). That’s the ultimate position.

Just not letting anyone else in would result in negative migration - there are (and sit down, this might come as a shock to some) people born in the US who decide to go live elsewhere in the world… and not just as a political stunt because their preferred presidential candidate lost.

But yes, the furthest reaches of the white wing would want to kick out naturalized or even natural born citizens who don’t pass the paper bag test.

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plansbandc  Sep 16, 2019 • 11:00:58am
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BigPapa  Sep 16, 2019 • 11:02:19am

Even though Joe’s Corn Pop story seems mostly true, ‘Biden’s Negro Summer Safari Adventure’ still hits. Or I should say, Pops.

(ducks)

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2019 • 11:11:17am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 11:18:27am

FIND ME A HISPANIC TO HONOR FOR HISPANIC HONORING MONTH!!!!!

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 16, 2019 • 11:20:12am

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 16, 2019 • 11:25:25am

re: #10 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This does reveal a degree of desperate thrashing about for arguments.

You are talking about someone who drew a Sharpie mod on a weather chart and then went on TV to show his forgery as justification for an incorrect earlier statement.

The Simpsons, Onion, National Lampoon, or any other comedic entity would never have published or aired such a episode. The humor would have been just too juvenile and way way too lazy.

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sagehen  Sep 16, 2019 • 11:32:57am

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FIND ME A HISPANIC TO HONOR FOR HISPANIC HONORING MONTH!!!!!

Mariano Rivera was born in Panama. Immigrant.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2019 • 11:34:03am

Legal immigrant here. Can attest the system is fucked up, convoluted and expensive and that’s coming from a white guy who has not run into major issues (just minor annoyances) on his immigration journey.

Did I mention this has cost me almost $10 000?

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Dave In Austin  Sep 16, 2019 • 11:34:25am

I think at this point some of these assholes are scoring their ratios as badges of honor.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2019 • 11:34:55am

re: #25 sagehen

Mariano Rivera was born in Panama. Immigrant.

“It is my pleasure to present Mr. Mary Anne Rivera with this beautiful medal…”

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2019 • 11:37:46am

re: #28 Eclectic Cyborg

“It is my pleasure to present Mr. Mary Anne Rivera with this beautiful medal…”

“Did you know that Rivera means river?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 11:39:02am

re: #29 Belafon

“Did you know that Rivera means river?”

“Not many people know that…not even that loser fake Geraldo”

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sagehen  Sep 16, 2019 • 11:39:07am

re: #29 Belafon

“Did you know that Rivera means river?”

Most people don’t know that.

Hey, Marianne, are you related to Chita?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2019 • 11:42:49am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2019 • 11:50:01am

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FIND ME A HISPANIC TO HONOR FOR HISPANIC HONORING MONTH!!!!!

“That can’t be the guy! Where’s his mustache? Where’s his sombrero? I said a Hispanic, dammit, not a random brown guy!”

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 16, 2019 • 11:57:05am

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FIND ME A HISPANIC TO HONOR FOR HISPANIC HONORING MONTH!!!!!

BRING ME A TACO BOWL FROM TRUMP TOWER GRILL! THE HISPANICS LOVE ME!1!!

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BigPapa  Sep 16, 2019 • 11:57:38am

I didn’t know Mariano Rivera got to the Bigs in 1955. Amazing.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:02:39pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:02:39pm

Why does Garbage Hobbit sound like Alvin from The Chipmunks? Is that his actual voice?

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:05:30pm

Can’t the Secret Service just rent their jet skis from the Trump Water Sports Organization?

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:06:44pm

re: #38 jaunte

Can’t the Secret Service just rent their jet skis from the Trump Water Sports Organization?

They have to buy them first, so they can sell them to TWSO for $0, and then lease them on contract, before they can rent them.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:10:52pm

re: #39 Belafon

They have to buy them first, so they can sell them to TWSO for $0, and then lease them on contract, before they can rent them.

Given Trump’s proclivities, I would use bleach and perhaps a flamethrower to sterilize the seat on said jetskis before ever I sat upon it.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:14:32pm

re: #7 I Would Prefer Not To

THE WORLD IS FULL OF IDIOTS PART 4935943454850485

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:15:26pm
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Eventual Carrion  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:18:20pm

re: #42 jaunte

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Does NY state have written on a piece of napkin (like the DOJ) that they cannot indict a sitting president?

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:19:32pm

re: #43 Eventual Carrion

I have a feeling they never saw the need.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:20:22pm

We have set down early in Somewherelse, Oklahoma. Oklahoma is big. And flat. And full of commie windmills.

The campground is huge, with 3 other RVs in place. We’re having brie on saltines, box wine (Pinot Grigio). Feel so white I might join the Concerned Citizens’ Council or the NHL.

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BigPapa  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:20:49pm

So I’m going back and forth with a misogynist and Twitter told me it gave me a time out that starts when I go back to Twitter. I go back to Twitter and… nothing. Can still Tweet and Reply. Whatever.

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BigPapa  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:22:24pm

re: #45 Decatur Deb

Don’t get the Commie Windmill Cancer.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:24:44pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:25:45pm

re: #37 The Pie Overlord!

Why does Garbage Hobbit sound like Alvin from The Chipmunks? Is that his actual voice?

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Yes, that is his actual voice.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:27:30pm
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KGxvi  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:28:27pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

In all seriousness, every president since JFK (less Nixon) has eventually been awarded the Medal of Freedom. I suspect that a “normal” Republican president would have given it to GW Bush. And a Democratic president is sure to give it to Obama. But who, if anyone, would give one to Trump?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:30:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:32:09pm

gotta clean the catboxes…

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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:33:52pm

re: #51 KGxvi

In all seriousness, every president since JFK (less Nixon) has eventually been awarded the Medal of Freedom. I suspect that a “normal” Republican president would have given it to GW Bush. And a Democratic president is sure to give it to Obama. But who, if anyone, would give one to Trump?

[ resists the urge to vomit ]

President Trump, Jr.

[ vomits ]

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KGxvi  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:34:11pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

McConnell doesn’t get a say in whether or not Kavanaugh is impeached. He only has a say in whether or not the Justice is removed from office.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:34:32pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

$5 to each Democrat that coughs *Moscow Mitch* during his condesencion speech.

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KGxvi  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:34:48pm

re: #54 makeitstop

[ resists the urge to vomit ]

President Trump, Jr.

[ vomits ]

Heh. I was going to make the joke that Trump would just give it to himself on January 19, 2021.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:38:49pm

re: #55 KGxvi

McConnell doesn’t get a say in whether or not Kavanaugh is impeached. He only has a say in whether or not the Justice is removed from office.

McConnell’s got to tell Trump what to say.

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BigPapa  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:39:01pm

We’re reaching a point in our marriage where my wife is cracking jokes and fucking with me. I’m usually the Causer of Giggles and playful treachery. Still weird for me.

I have to remember, it’s not a competition.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:41:01pm

re: #59 BigPapa

We’re reaching a point in our marriage where my wife is cracking jokes and fucking with me. I’m usually the Causer of Giggles and playful treachery. Still weird for me.

I have to remember, it’s not a competition.

Don’t dish it if you can’t take it.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:42:15pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:44:20pm
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BigPapa  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:44:36pm

re: #60 Belafon

Don’t dish it if you can’t take it.

Yeah. I’m more just not calibrated yet.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:45:07pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

I’m kind of going for Bingo:
1. Boys will be boys.
2. Democrats want a do-over.
3. It’s already been looked at.
4. Sore losers.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:46:14pm

re: #59 BigPapa

We’re reaching a point in our marriage where my wife is cracking jokes and fucking with me. I’m usually the Causer of Giggles and playful treachery. Still weird for me.

I have to remember, it’s not a competition.

Of course it is. He who dies with the most lol’s wins.

MIL to wife-to-be, 1966: “I don’t know why you have to marry that penniless Yankee.”
Wife: “I never have to explain the punchline.”

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:47:24pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

“Um, it’s you. You can keep it. In fact, let me rip that store tag out first.”

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:56:47pm

Worst president in the history of any history.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:57:57pm

Of course the studies are “strong studies.”
Who would go to war on a weak study, Republicans?

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2019 • 12:59:22pm

Reichstag oil fire.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:01:42pm
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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:03:04pm

re: #67 jaunte

Demonstrably false given that a carrier task force - the USS Harry Truman task force to be specific - set sail for an overseas deployment without its carrier because of issues with its electronics.

A carrier force sailing without its carrier.

Best Navy Ever.

This isn’t one of the new Ford class carriers, but one of the more recent Nimitz class (improved). They couldn’t get another carrier to deploy in its stead because they were short due to other overhauls/work in Newport News.

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mmmirele  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:04:51pm

The Arizona state Supreme Court has decided that a cslligraphy shop can discriminate against LGBTQ people, because religion and the First Amendment trump discrimination laws.

azcentral.com

Where does this end?

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teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:11:29pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:14:43pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:15:14pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:18:40pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:19:48pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Dude holy shit that is one of the stupidest fucking things he’s ever said. The US military, short on ammunition. What. The. FUCK!

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:22:13pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:23:08pm

He’s fucking senile.

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retired cynic  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:26:37pm

Long WaPo article about Kamala Harris attending Howard University because she wanted a black college experience and the comments are disgusting. She’s not black enough. WTF

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DangerMan  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:27:11pm

re: #38 jaunte

Can’t the Secret Service just rent their jet skis from the Trump Water Sports Organization Charitable Foundation?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:27:30pm

Click on the link if you dare.

You have been warned.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:29:30pm
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DangerMan  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:30:31pm

re: #64 Belafon

I’m kind of going for Bingo:
1. Boys will be boys.
2. Democrats want a do-over.
3. It’s already been looked at.
4. Sore losers.

in other words, totally irrelevant

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:33:35pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:35:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:35:47pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:37:13pm

The 3rd & 4th Stupidest People In Congress:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:37:55pm

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s lying, of course, but Mattis will probably refuse to comment due to national security concerns.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:41:02pm
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BigPapa  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:47:13pm

Mi-Lo Pony is Fursona Non Grata

(Fursona Non Grata is not mine)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:51:50pm

oh and the Flood incident…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:51:52pm

re: #43 Eventual Carrion

Does NY state have written on a piece of napkin (like the DOJ) that they cannot indict a sitting president?

But they can go after his accountants…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:52:32pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

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oh and the Flood incident…

oh, and that fella named Jesus…

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gocart mozart  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:52:41pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:55:20pm
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sagehen  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:58:13pm

re: #38 jaunte

Can’t the Secret Service just rent their jet skis from the Trump Water Sports Organization?

I think they’ve BEEN renting them, from Mar-a-Lago, and somebody finally realized people are noticing how much money they put in his pocket; if they buy them they can keep them, and use them for the next President as well (plus, the Obamas just bought a beach house. Jet-skis might be useful for his detail too).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 1:59:49pm

oh…

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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2019 • 2:01:39pm

KMFDM drops a new video. They mince no words. Behind the button for language and imagery.

(Happy to see my friend Andee [guitar player] featured in the video!)

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retired cynic  Sep 16, 2019 • 2:07:35pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh…

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WTF???

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2019 • 2:11:31pm

re: #95 gocart mozart

Two of my favorite rappers are Ice T and Ice Cube. I can totally buy Corn Pop.

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DangerMan  Sep 16, 2019 • 2:11:35pm

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retired cynic  Sep 16, 2019 • 2:11:59pm

re: #99 makeitstop

KMFDM drops a new video. They mince no words. Behind the button for language and imagery.

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(Happy to see my friend Andee [guitar player] featured in the video!)

Wow. Not my type of music, but it held me all the way to the end!

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KGxvi  Sep 16, 2019 • 2:15:35pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

If the Trump Org got tax rebates they were supposed to pass on to tenants, I will bet dollars to donuts that Trump pocketed the money. Like there aren’t odds good enough to take that bet. It’s got to be -10,000 pocketed to +25,000 that they didn’t.

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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2019 • 2:15:58pm

re: #103 retired cynic

Wow. Not my type of music, but it held me all the way to the end!

They’re one of the pioneering bands of industrial music. They’ve been around since 1984 (my friend just joined last year), but they haven’t lost a step.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2019 • 2:17:52pm

re: #101 Belafon

Two of my favorite rappers are Ice T and Ice Cube. I can totally buy Corn Pop.

Just leave Vanilla Ice out of things, okay?

/

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retired cynic  Sep 16, 2019 • 2:18:34pm

Charlie Pierce (yeah, I re-subscribed, because I just missed him): President Trump Eyes Iran Because We’ve Learned Nothing From Iraq or Anything Else

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 2:22:55pm

I’m guessing somebody may have mentioned this to the moron-in-chief

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sagehen  Sep 16, 2019 • 2:23:46pm

re: #100 retired cynic

WTF???

Buildings that are co-ops, the building as a whole pays property tax (an expense which figures into each owner-tenant’s monthly maintenance fees). But sometimes there’s property tax abatements for one reason or another, and the refund is sent to the Corporation. Which is then supposed to pro-rate the shares and distribute them to tenants.

The abatements on my apartment that I can remember off-hand were from when we did environmental things the city wanted to encourage, half the cost of these green improvements was knocked off our property tax on the theory that we were helping save the city from having to construct more steam and water and electric infrastructure.

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retired cynic  Sep 16, 2019 • 2:25:38pm

re: #107 retired cynic

Charlie Pierce (yeah, I re-subscribed, because I just missed him): President Trump Eyes Iran Because We’ve Learned Nothing From Iraq or Anything Else

Welp:

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sagehen  Sep 16, 2019 • 2:27:42pm

re: #104 KGxvi

If the Trump Org got tax rebates they were supposed to pass on to tenants, I will bet dollars to donuts that Trump pocketed the money. Like there aren’t odds good enough to take that bet. It’s got to be -10,000 pocketed to +25,000 that they didn’t.

There’s been rumors/suspicion about this for years; that’s why tenants in 160 and 180 Riverside Dr organized to take over the co-op board and fire Trump Org as their administrator.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 16, 2019 • 2:28:07pm
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Belafon  Sep 16, 2019 • 2:29:21pm

re: #110 retired cynic

Welp:

Weren’t the attacks on the tankers also confirmed by US intelligence, we just didn’t know which intelligence.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2019 • 2:30:14pm

re: #112 Dave In Austin

Can’t wait for the docudrama in a couple of decades.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 16, 2019 • 2:32:40pm

re: #114 Belafon

As I posted… Wait a week or 2 for the bodies to start showing up.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 16, 2019 • 2:34:17pm

re: #105 makeitstop

They’re one of the pioneering bands of industrial music. They’ve been around since 1984 (my friend just joined last year), but they haven’t lost a step.

Moscow Mitch mug shot was a nice touch.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2019 • 2:58:46pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

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oh and the Flood incident…

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BigPapa  Sep 16, 2019 • 2:59:01pm

I totally trust the Russian government.

To lie about everything.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:04:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:05:01pm
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Mike Lamb  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:05:38pm

re: #112 Dave In Austin

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If Resident Evil is looking for new material…

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:07:10pm

re: #107 retired cynic

Charlie Pierce (yeah, I re-subscribed, because I just missed him): President Trump Eyes Iran Because We’ve Learned Nothing From Iraq or Anything Else

No, the majority of us have learned and were strong opposed to the misadventure in Iraq as well.

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mmmirele  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:09:41pm

re: #119 Barefoot Grin

What TF is this shit?

Some bullshit about “cancel culture”. What TF is Yang DOING?

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:09:49pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

The OT God is such a massively manipulative asshole. He’s just putting on a puppet show using people for his own entertainment. Which honestly makes a lot of sense in that it fits right in with the polytheistic Greek, Sumerian and Babylonian contemporaries. Life is mostly just a bunch of random shit that happens so it probably helps to think everything is due to the vagaries of bored omnipotent fuckwits.

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retired cynic  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:12:07pm

re: #124 goddamnedfrank

Amen.

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EPR-radar  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:13:38pm

re: #124 goddamnedfrank

The OT God is such a massively manipulative asshole. He’s just putting on a puppet show with people for his own entertainment. Which honestly makes a lot of sense in that it fits right in with the polytheistic Greek, Sumerian and Babylonian contemporaries. Life is mostly just a bunch of random shit that happens so it probably helps to think it’s all due to the vagaries of bored omnipotent fuckwits.

It is difficult to think of a worse character in literature than the OT God. Ironically, the only real contender may be the NT God, with this novel business of eternal torment in Hell for the thought crime of non-belief.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:13:57pm

re: #124 goddamnedfrank

The OT God is such a massively manipulative asshole. He’s just putting on a puppet show with people for his own entertainment. Which honestly makes a lot of sense in that it fits right in with the polytheistic Greek, Sumerian and Babylonian contemporaries. Life is mostly just a bunch of random shit that happens so it probably helps to think everything is due to the vagaries of bored omnipotent fuckwits.

Replace “gods” with “billionaire heads of state” and you get the saame thing.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:20:41pm

re: #126 EPR-radar

It is difficult to think of a worse character in literature than the OT God. Ironically, the only real contender may be the NT God, with this novel business of eternal torment in Hell for the thought crime of non-belief.

The Roman/Greek gods were pretty good contenders as well. Think of Medusa.

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:23:55pm

re: #119 Barefoot Grin

Class act to the very end.

In his own statement on Twitter, Gillis said in part, “Of course I wanted an opportunity to prove myself at SNL, but I understand it would be too much of a distraction. I respect the decision they made. I’m honestly grateful for the opportunity. I was always a Mad TV guy anyway.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:24:56pm

re: #123 mmmirele

What TF is this shit?

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Some bullshit about “cancel culture”. What TF is Yang DOING?

I read a long thread from Yang yesterday and I grudgingly support him in reaching out, but he has to use the opportunity (should it occur) to drive home some important points about “casual” racism (there’s no such thing as “casual”, of course).

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gwangung  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:25:30pm

re: #129 MsJ

Class act to the very end.

Entitled ass to the end.

re: #130 Barefoot Grin

I read a long thread from Yang yesterday and I grudgingly support him in reaching out, but he has to use the opportunity (should it occur) to drive home some important points about “casual” racism (there’s no such thing as “casual”, of course).

Yang seems off to me. He has a tendency to embrace and reinforce the model minority myth….which is a tool used to pit minority groups against each other, all the while decrying identity politics.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:25:38pm
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MsJ  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:26:47pm

re: #123 mmmirele

What TF is this shit?

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Some bullshit about “cancel culture”. What TF is Yang DOING?

These “Who? No chance.” candidates aren’t really Democrats. Tulsi is headlining some conservative freak show. It’s a way to fuck Democrats and get some press at the same time.

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bratwurst  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:29:34pm
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:33:06pm

re: #131 gwangung

Entitled ass to the end.

Yang seems off to me. He has a tendency to embrace and reinforce the model minority myth….which is a tool used to pit minority groups against each other, all the while decrying identity politics.

Thanks for your input. Reading the profile of Constance Wu in New Yorker today, I got a sense of the difficulty navigating American racism for Asian Americans.

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EPR-radar  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:34:00pm

re: #128 Belafon

The Roman/Greek gods were pretty good contenders as well. Think of Medusa.

The Greek Gods were shitbirds to the Greeks and mostly irrelevant to outsiders. Ditto for the Aztec gods etc.

This business of universal salvation (and its dark side, universal damnation) didn’t really exist until Christianity.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:36:53pm
The Muslim-American mayor of Prospect Park, New Jersey, was harassed and wrongfully detained by Customs and Border Protection after flying into John F. Kennedy International Airport last month, saying that agents asked him if he knew any terrorists during the nearly three hours he was held.

Mayor Mohamed Khairullah and his family had actually been vacationing in Turkey and were returning home to Prospect Park when the CBP agent’s questions went from standard—“like about where he traveled from and who he visited,” CNN said—to downright offensive and discriminatory, asking Khairullah “did you meet with any terrorists?”

CBP’s treatment of Khairullah was “a clear case of profiling,” said Ahmed Mohamed, litigation director for the New York chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. “He gets treated as if he was a terrorist in this situation. That’s conduct that should be unacceptable to every single American in this country.”

m.dailykos.com

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gwangung  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:37:04pm

re: #135 Barefoot Grin

Thanks for your input. Reading the profile of Constance Wu in New Yorker today, I got a sense of the difficulty navigating American racism for Asian Americans.

I can’t play oppression olympics here; marginalized groups all have different experiences. But I think it’s fair to say, “Don’t make life harder than it has to be” for folks.

Yang was targetted directly by that loser, so however he responds to that direct attack is up to him….but there are always responses to span the gamut, from useful to….not useful.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:41:43pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

Or, why I’ve never found the idea that “It’s all part of God’s Plan” comforting. It all makes more sense if nobody’s driving.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:43:07pm

re: #119 Barefoot Grin

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Why is it that damn near every single time I’ve seen or heard a complaint about ‘Political Correctness is killing comedy!” it’s always from a White Guy?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:44:34pm

re: #112 Dave In Austin

Rick Wilson

@TheRickWilson
With Russia’s formidable commitment to safety, what could possibly go wrong?

Chernobyl — great HBO series — made the point that under Gorbachev, a Russian leader with real concern for his nation, Russians on the ground were attempting to conceal the extent of the damage from both Russian leadership and the outside world. Fortunately, the Western scientists were able to detect and reveal the seriousness of the accident; and Russian scientists were able to prevent a true catastrophe.

Under Putin, who knows what Russian scientists would be willing to reveal to their leaders knowing that polonium poisoning would likely be the fate of any who told the truth. Terrifying possibility that these diseases could be released into the community.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:44:48pm

re: #123 mmmirele

What TF is this shit?

“Mr. Yang - May I call you Andrew? - anyway, Andrew, what I wanted to ask you was, can I have a job? I just lost a lucrative gig….”

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:47:29pm

re: #131 gwangung

Yang seems off to me. He has a tendency to embrace and reinforce the model minority myth….which is a tool used to pit minority groups against each other, all the while decrying identity politics.

This is the bulk of my gripe with him, which dovetails into his fairly blasé attitude towards being championed by extremely online racist chaos agents and his tendency to say cryptic, disturbing shit like this:

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:49:11pm

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:51:33pm

re: #140 Blind Frog Belly White

Why is it that damn near every single time I’ve seen or heard a complaint about ‘Political Correctness is killing comedy!” it’s always from a White Guy?

A White Guy who is lazy at comedy.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:53:12pm

re: #134 bratwurst

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Any episode with Timberlake hosting is worth watching.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:57:01pm
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Weaselone  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:57:44pm

re: #147 Charles Johnson

There’s no way that’s Trump.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2019 • 3:58:35pm

Twitter is a dark, dank, hole in the ground, but still produces gems

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:01:41pm

re: #149 goddamnedfrank

Twitter is a dark, dank, hole in the ground, but still produces gems

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Oh, my…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:21:55pm

re: #150 Jebediah, RBG

Oh, my…

IIRC, this is the second time in as many months that someone’s told him he should watch The Wire.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:24:36pm

re: #151 Blind Frog Belly White

Really? Wow. I mean, the internet is a great place for blowhards to pop off without doing any research or checking, but that has just got to be the absolute pinnacle of cluelessness.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:27:20pm

re: #152 Jebediah, RBG

Really? Wow. I mean, the internet is a great place for blowhards to pop off without doing any research or checking, but that has just got to be the absolute pinnacle of cluelessness.

Really. Last month, during the Trump/Cummings/Baltimore Infestation kerfuffle, someone told him about this great show, The Wire, where he could learn about Baltimore.

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KGxvi  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:28:07pm

re: #124 goddamnedfrank

The OT God is such a massively manipulative asshole. He’s just putting on a puppet show using people for his own entertainment. Which honestly makes a lot of sense in that it fits right in with the polytheistic Greek, Sumerian and Babylonian contemporaries. Life is mostly just a bunch of random shit that happens so it probably helps to think everything is due to the vagaries of bored omnipotent fuckwits.

There’s actually a decent argument that the early Israelites were actually polytheistic. At least according to this PBS series. I kind of want to do more reading on that idea, because it does sort of make some of the OT stories make a little more sense.

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gocart mozart  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:28:18pm
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KGxvi  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:30:03pm

re: #155 gocart mozart

Wasn’t “their 9/11” 9/11?

Well, from a certain point of view, I suppose…

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Jack Burton  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:31:47pm

re: #153 Blind Frog Belly White

Really. Last month, during the Trump/Cummings/Baltimore Infestation kerfuffle, someone told him about this great show, The Wire, where he could learn about Baltimore.

This is the kind of thing that can make me hope for a Giant Asteroid.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:33:05pm

re: #129 MsJ

If I recall correctly, MadTv was pretty diverse so I doubt his racist behind would have been welcomed there either. Racists need to understand that while they’re embraced by fellow Conservatives, they’re not welcome in most of the entertainment business. You can’t make anti-Asian “jokes” and expect to be embraced by the larger society. Racism isn’t funny.

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Targetpractice  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:33:59pm

re: #155 gocart mozart

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So 3000 Saudi citizens were killed by Wahhabi terrorists that snuck into the country and used commercial airliners to strike major landmarks?

No?

Then no, it’s not “their 9/11.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:34:56pm

re: #157 Jack Burton

This is the kind of thing that can make me hope for a Giant Asteroid.

The best thing (or worst) was that the tweet was written with such smarmy authority, such condescension.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:37:00pm

re: #159 Targetpractice

So 3000 Saudi citizens were killed by Wahhabi terrorists that snuck into the country and used commercial airliners to strike major landmarks?

No?

Then no, it’s not “their 9/11.”

Were there any deaths due to the attack? I only heard about damage to the facilities but nothing about fatalities.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:40:44pm

Hey, so you know how Trump’s talking about going to war four our “friends” in KSA? Guess which country is 3rd in the world in military expenditures? And tops in terms of expenditures as a % of GDP?

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:40:52pm

re: #161 Hecuba’s daughter

Were there any deaths due to the attack? I only heard about damage to the facilities but nothing about fatalities.

Maybe not directly but heads will probably roll inside the Saudi air defense command. This is fucking embarrassing for them.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:42:00pm

re: #163 goddamnedfrank

Maybe not directly but heads will probably roll inside the Saudi air defense command. This is fucking embarrassing for them.

Literally, considering SA’s method of capital punishment.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:47:11pm

So, he wants to shake down the Saudis just like he shakes down NATO?

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:47:19pm

re: #158 Patricia Kayden

If I recall correctly, MadTv was pretty diverse so I doubt his racist behind would have been welcomed there either. Racists need to understand that while they’re embraced by fellow Conservatives, they’re not welcome in most of the entertainment business. You can’t make anti-Asian “jokes” and expect to be embraced by the larger society. Racism isn’t funny.

There’s ways to make fun of stuff. His way wasn’t one.

Jackie Mason was brutally funny about Jews (he’s Jewish) and my parents (also Jewish) loved him. He made my ex-husband (not Jewish) roll on the damn floor.

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Targetpractice  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:48:57pm

re: #165 The Pie Overlord!

So, he wants to shake down the Saudis just like he shakes down NATO?

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Somehow, I suspect the House of Saud is gonna stiff us on the bill.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:50:20pm

re: #167 Targetpractice

Somehow, I suspect the House of Saud is gonna stiff us on the bill.

//

They could roll barrels of cash to Mar-A-Lago and label it “Oil”

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Dread Pirate  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:50:56pm

Trump wants to rent out our sons and daughters to die in a war for profit. Fuck that shit.

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BigPapa  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:51:50pm

just once I’d love to go into a public place with a grotesquely over the top display of ammo porn.

Just not sure if I should use a replica minigun with 500 round ammo boxes on my hip + mini RPG’s on my helmet, or dual muskets/side muskets/sabres and a 5lb bag of black powder. With a Bowie knife.

Weighing my options for freedom right now.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:53:59pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:54:10pm

re: #167 Targetpractice

Somehow, I suspect the House of Saud is gonna stiff us on the bill.

//

The House of Saud will be delighted to get us involved in their conflict and have our military die for them — we are just their hired guns. But as I keep saying — maybe naively — this is not the Trump way; he won’t be starting a new conflict that would produce significant American casualties. Yes — he will misjudge the situation, like he misjudges everything except the gullibility and racism of much of the American public — but actual conflict, now that Bolton is gone, seems increasingly unlikely.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:55:23pm

re: #169 Dread Pirate

Trump wants to rent out our sons and daughters to die in a war for profit. Fuck that shit.

Meanwhile Chris Matthews: “Are the Democrats pushing too far Left?”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:56:11pm

re: #172 Hecuba’s daughter

The House of Saud will be delighted to get us involved in their conflict and have our military die for them — we are just their hired guns. But as I keep saying — maybe naively — this is not the Trump way; he won’t be starting a new conflict that would produce significant American casualties. Yes — he will misjudge the situation, like he misjudges everything except the gullibility and racism of much of the American public — but actual conflict, now that Bolton is gone, seems increasingly unlikely.

Think he’ll do a Venezuela? Rattle the saber a while then lose interest?

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Targetpractice  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:56:54pm

re: #172 Hecuba’s daughter

The House of Saud will be delighted to get us involved in their conflict and have our military die for them — we are just their hired guns. But as I keep saying — maybe naively — this is not the Trump way; he won’t be starting a new conflict that would produce significant American casualties. Yes — he will misjudge the situation, like he misjudges everything except the gullibility and racism of much of the American public — but actual conflict, now that Bolton is gone, seems increasingly unlikely.

He won’t get us involved in another war, because that would be long and messy and hurt his reelection chances. No, he’ll be swayed by a general or a paper-pusher at the Pentagon who will tell him that we can launch air strikes that will be quick, safe, and decisive so that he looks awesome for “doing something.”

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b.d.  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:57:32pm

re: #167 Targetpractice

Somehow, I suspect the House of Saud is gonna stiff us on the bill.

//

The guy with the bone-saw has your check, just go through that door.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:58:47pm

re: #174 Blind Frog Belly White

Think he’ll do a Venezuela? Rattle the saber a while then lose interest?

That is his thing, isn’t it? Saber rattling as part of the negotiation to get your enemies to the bargaining table. He’ll soon be gushing about the beautiful letters Rouhani is sending him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2019 • 4:59:08pm

re: #175 Targetpractice

He won’t get us involved in another war, because that would be long and messy and hurt his reelection chances. No, he’ll be swayed by a general or a paper-pusher at the Pentagon who will tell him that we can launch air strikes that will be quick, safe, and decisive so that he looks awesome for “doing something.”

The one silver lining of his unshakable base is that he can’t lose them by looking/acting weak, because NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES, they interpret it as strength.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:01:46pm

re: #153 Blind Frog Belly White

Really. Last month, during the Trump/Cummings/Baltimore Infestation kerfuffle, someone told him about this great show, The Wire, where he could learn about Baltimore.

Dang.
Bet he really appreciated the heads up.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:02:20pm

re: #177 Hecuba’s daughter

That is his thing, isn’t it? Saber rattling as part of the negotiation to get your enemies to the bargaining table. He’ll soon be gushing about the beautiful letters Rouhani is sending him.

Or, like Maduro, just never mentioned again.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:06:14pm

re: #178 Blind Frog Belly White

The one silver lining of his unshakable base is that he can’t lose them by looking/acting weak, because NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES, they interpret it as strength.

You are so right. Our Trumpster brother keeps on praising his negotiating skills which he honed as a brilliant real estate developer. Our brother is in sales and thinks of Trump as a perfect model of how to get your opponent to agree to your conditions to close a deal. But it’s not just Trumpsters who have this attitude. A small business owner friend who loved Bernie in 2016 (and voted for Hillary in the general) has repeatedly described Trump as typical of many of the business owners he knows — boastful, arrogant, and confident in their skills, regardless of the reality of the situation.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:07:10pm

The security guards at the Abqaiq refinery reportedly tried to shoot down the drones using small arms fire, which tells me:

1. They were not flying that fast, there was enough time for guys with rifles to try to engage.
2. The Saudis never thought to install point defense weapons systems around a piece of key infrastructure prone to secondary explosions.

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b.d.  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:10:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:10:34pm

re: #155 gocart mozart

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If this is indeed the “Saudis’ 9/11”, then we know for certain who the bad guys are…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:11:58pm

re: #180 Blind Frog Belly White

I think this really is one of the keys to understanding Trump. We worry about him starting a war because he’s a saber-rattling clown, but really, he’s afraid of war because it’s real. Parades, bragging about how much you’re spending on the military, having your picture taken with soldiers - none of that is REAL. It’s all show. Soldiers dying, cities bombed, children killed and displayed on network TV - that shit is REAL. And if the enemy doesn’t just fold, and it drags on and on….

I mean, Iran is a big country, with 81 Million people, more than 3 times as many as Iraq. And we didn’t just kick the shit out of them ten years prior, like we had with Iraq. And though the government might not be all that popular with the average Iranian citizen, you can just dambetcha it will become super popular the moment we start lobbing bombs at them. Plus, they fought Saddam at his strongest to a standstill.

Trump’s fear of the effect a long, drawn out war would have on his popularity will, I hope and expect, keep him from launching a war, though like Venezuela, he’s likely to back down close to the last minute.

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fern01  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:12:03pm

re: #69 jaunte

Presumably Pompeo is heading for the UN to lie to everyone there because - Iran needs to be obliterated by US bombs. Welcome to the war of 2020s - and I’ve no doubt Australia’s PM at his wonderful White House Dinner will “stand with trump”. Hopefully Boris will be too busy with his brexit problems to stand with anyone.

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fern01  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:14:25pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

Was he screwed by those who supported and encouraged him (and then walked away). He really has no life left anywhere on the planet.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:15:02pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:20:14pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

I HATE getting punched in the face.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:20:21pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:21:03pm
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jaunte  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:21:23pm

Who dressed Spicer as a shrubbery?

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:21:27pm

re: #190 The Pie Overlord!

::: running to get some brain bleach :::

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:21:47pm
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b.d.  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:22:27pm

re: #190 The Pie Overlord!

WTFITS

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still not as humiliating as working for trump

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:25:34pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

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Back in my day, the tough guy/gal grabbed the “Bug” name because he/she would gleefully eat a bug and no one else matched the dare.

Ever.

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Targetpractice  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:26:11pm

re: #193 PhillyPretzel

::: running to get some brain bleach :::

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:27:52pm

re: #192 jaunte

Who dressed Spicer as a shrubbery?

it’s what he does ever since he hid in the WH shrubbery

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:28:15pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:28:19pm

re: #190 The Pie Overlord!

WTFITS

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Somebody in Wardrobe really hates him.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:29:20pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:29:44pm

re: #199 The Pie Overlord!

Like the Seinfeld “Puffy Shirt”, but in fluorescent chartreuse.

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Targetpractice  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:31:48pm

re: #194 goddamnedfrank

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When conservatives become convinced they cannot win democratically, they don’t give up conservatism. They give up democracy.

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teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:32:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:33:02pm

None of the trumps had the first fucking clue who this man was before today.
he is the convenient Hispanic who isn’t Puerto Rican.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:34:13pm

re: #165 The Pie Overlord!

So, he wants to shake down the Saudis just like he shakes down NATO?

…except the Saudis might say “yes” to that kind of deal.

It used to be that they got ground forces by big military contracts with Pakistan and a several other Sunni-majority nations, but several of them have started saying “no.”

Which begs the question…if it’s a successful shakedown, isn’t that a different kind of pathetic where we’re directly being goons for a monarchy?

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:34:27pm

Sean Spicer proudly stood up behind a White House podium and vigorously lied to every American. Fuck him.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:35:02pm

Weight loss journey update: Now down over 50 lbs from my peak, am at just over 200 lbs now. Developed a Morton’s neuroma in my left foot a couple months ago from all the hiking, went to an orthopedist and got a cortisone shot and started going to the YMCA instead. Mostly rocking the rowing machine now, with some weight stuff and the stationary bike for added flava. Had blood drawn for labs last week, all readings kick ass. Cholesterol is amazing, especially considering I’m still on a keto diet and just carnivorous af. My A1C dropped from 5.8 to 4.9, the earlier reading was just inside the pre-diabetes range, which is what scared me silly and prompted me to get serious about this shit.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:35:34pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:36:41pm

re: #208 goddamnedfrank

I keep intending to use the pool at the Y, but then I remember it’s basically chlorinated human soup.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:38:26pm

re: #209 Charles Johnson

It tells you a great deal about Trump and nothing about the target.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:40:56pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:42:13pm

re: #208 goddamnedfrank

Weight loss journey update: Now down over 50 lbs from my peak, just over 200 lbs now. Developed a Morton’s neuroma in my left foot a couple months ago from all the hiking, went to an orthopedist and got a cortisone shot and started going to the YMCA instead. Mostly rocking the rowing machine now, with some weight stuff and the stationary bike for added flava. Had blood drawn for labs last week, all readings kick ass. Cholesterol is amazing, especially considering I’m still on a keto diet and just carnivorous af. My A1C dropped from 5.8 to 4.9, the earlier reading was just inside the pre-diabetes range which is what scared me silly and prompted me to get serious about this shit.

Well done!

(But how the hell can you stand a stationary bike? After 20 minutes I want to do literally anything else)

When I was 48, after decades of 110/70, my BP was 140/90. I told my doctor I wanted to try diet and exercise. So for 3 months, I ate mostly lean meat and bushels of salad, rode 100 miles a week, lost 10#, etc. My BP after all that?

140/90. Friggin’ genetics!

On the plus side, my cholesterol and triglycerides have always been really good, so genetics giveth, and genetics taketh away.

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b.d.  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:44:16pm

re: #212 Charles Johnson

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Senior Democrats need to go to the farm and let the less geriatric take over from here

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:45:16pm

Michael Moore irritates tf out of me, because he mixes some perceptive shit with a lot of really bad ideas, and he ends up making things worse every goddamned time he steps in.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:45:38pm

re: #213 Blind Frog Belly White

Well done!

(But how the hell can you stand a stationary bike? After 20 minutes I want to do literally anything else)

Podcasts, mostly.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:49:08pm

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

Podcasts, mostly.

It takes all my concentration, and loud music with a fast beat, to keep my HR >120. After 45 minutes, I’m exhausted. On the road, I can do 2 hours easily, with my HR mostly over 130.

But, that’s me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:49:40pm

re: #209 Charles Johnson

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if anyone knows about “ruining” a woman’s reputation, it would be him and his administration.

And Senator Collins.

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bratwurst  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:50:30pm

re: #210 goddamnedfrank

I keep intending to use the pool at the Y, but then I remember it’s basically chlorinated human soup.

I used to be a swimming fanatic, but I just can’t get past this fact you eloquently state in my old age.

After a VERY bad period of health early this year, I finally felt good enough to exercise on March 1. I have done at least 45 minutes of heart rate raising cardio and/or strength training (all on dry land)102 days out of the last 200. I’ve lost about 30 pounds in that time. My situation means I could start feeling awful at any time with pretty much no warning at all, but feeling very satisfied that I’ve made the most of my time while feeling pretty good.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:50:54pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:53:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:55:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 5:56:22pm

^^this^^

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:05:36pm

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Do the MPs follow Boris’s order or not?

Sometimes to save a government you have to fight against it.

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Interesting Times  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:05:41pm

re: #212 Charles Johnson

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Jay C  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:08:48pm

re: #191 teleskiguy

OK, even leaving aside for a moment that this is a Republican Senator who’s tweeting (and therefore “making sense” rarely, if ever, enters the picture) - how TF would the Green New Deal “increase our reliance on foreign sources”? Does Sen. Gardner imagine that we would be paying a royalty for sunlight? Buying wind from China?? A “federal ban on fracking” - ecologically beneficial as it might be - might (probably would): assuming of course, that (fossil-fuel) energy demand might not fall under a GND: but that’s another issue.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:09:00pm

re: #224 Belafon

Do the MPs follow Boris’s order or not?

Sometimes to save a government you have to fight against it.

well, Boris has lost several of his party’s MPs when they crossed over to the other side

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:11:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:12:02pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:13:52pm
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Belafon  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:15:33pm

re: #194 goddamnedfrank

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:16:45pm

re: #190 The Pie Overlord!

He should look ridiculous.

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teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:19:08pm
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danarchy  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:22:02pm

Genetic genealogy has been such a game changer in the hunt for serial killers and rapists. Think we are in a golden age for solving these cases. We really need to make funds available to go back and review all of the cold cases with unknown DNA available.

cbsnews.com

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Dread Pirate  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:24:14pm
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Semper Fi  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:29:58pm

re: #234 danarchy

Genetic genealogy has been such a game changer in the hunt for serial killers and rapists. Think we are in a golden age for solving these cases. We really need to make funds available to go back and review all of the cold cases with unknown DNA available.

cbsnews.com

I would like to see satisfactory DNA check as one of the requirements for gun ownership thus necessitating a vast increase in the ability to do those tests. Maybe then we could handle all those untested rape-kits.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:32:46pm

An explosion rocked a Russian research facility known for housing the smallpox virus

An explosion Monday caused a fire at the State Research Center of Virology and Biotechnology, a biological research facility in Siberia known for being one of the two centers in the world housing samples of live smallpox virus. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in Atlanta is the only other place known to maintain live samples of the deadly pathogen.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:36:27pm

re: #194 goddamnedfrank

I luv this guys argument:

Really, it’s not the people that decide at large elections at all. //

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boredtechindenver  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:39:30pm

re: #153 Blind Frog Belly White

Really. Last month, during the Trump/Cummings/Baltimore Infestation kerfuffle, someone told him about this great show, The Wire, where he could learn about Baltimore.

I think this was a better reply to a self-own tweet.

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teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:39:51pm

It’s as if education attainment is a testament to living comfortable lives, and how people vote.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:44:52pm

re: #240 teleskiguy

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It’s as if education attainment is a testament to living comfortable lives, and how people vote.

Texas is the only outlier.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:51:24pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:54:10pm

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:54:23pm
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Belafon  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:54:50pm

re: #244 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Don’t insult Harvey like that.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:56:33pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:56:38pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:59:17pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 16, 2019 • 6:59:39pm

re: #247 Charles Johnson

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I still with Warren.

I’m also listening to The Cars.

It’s time to call it a night.

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gocart mozart  Sep 16, 2019 • 7:05:03pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 16, 2019 • 7:07:22pm
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Belafon  Sep 16, 2019 • 7:08:25pm

re: #247 Charles Johnson

If Biden and Sanders hadn’t ran, I think we could have had some very good debates on topics between Warren, Harris, Beto, Pete, and possibly Castro and Booker.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 16, 2019 • 7:09:48pm

Joshua Chamberlain called. He wants to recall his bayonet charge.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2019 • 7:11:30pm

re: #251 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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One thing that separates Trump from, say Biden and my mom, is that he has to restrain himself from being full blown racist. My mom’s racism is more like “that was racist. I didn’t know that, that’s how I was raised. I’ll try not to do it again.”

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Dave In Austin  Sep 16, 2019 • 7:12:49pm

Boom. One of the 7/11’s here in Cedar Park,TX had gas at $2.04 this morning.
$2.39 tonite. And I think it’s just getting started.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 16, 2019 • 7:13:45pm

Speaking of no ammunition…

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2019 • 7:15:45pm

re: #253 The Pie Overlord!

Melania whispers “He’s projecting again. That’s why he says I have a son.”

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gocart mozart  Sep 16, 2019 • 7:21:21pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 16, 2019 • 7:23:15pm

re: #256 The Pie Overlord!

Speaking of no ammunition…

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The Albuquerque metro area, of which Rio Rancho is a part, is bounded on three sides by Indian reservations: Santa Domingo Pueblo to the North, Laguna Pueblo to the West, and Isleta Pueblo to the South.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 16, 2019 • 7:33:31pm

I saw the clip of Spicey getting down with his bad self…

crooksandliars.com

We are definitely witnessing the fall of the American empire…

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uriel  Sep 16, 2019 • 7:39:25pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

I see the presidential lean is in full effect.

Does he really think we all don’t know he’s wearing lifts?

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 16, 2019 • 7:41:12pm
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calochortus  Sep 16, 2019 • 7:46:49pm

re: #262 Ace-o-aces

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Heck, he’s not even going to win over this old white person with that line of “reasoning.”
Do I listen to rap? No, of course not. Do I care if anyone else does? No, why would I?

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 17, 2019 • 8:19:58am

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But you can still be killed for selling loose cigs. So only certain people can disregard the law I guess.


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